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Ghost

Damn

EXCLUSIVE: @GrossmanHannah
and I have obtained logs from the NSA’s secret transgender sex chatroom, in which NSA, CIA, and DIA employees discuss genital castration, artificial vaginas, piss fetishes, sex polycules, and gangbangs—all on government time.

This is insane.

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BREAKING: Director of National Intelligence @TulsiGabbard says that the 100+ intelligence officials involved in the deep state sex chat will have their security clearances revoked. She says they were brazen in using a @NSAgov platform to have these horrific chats, because there’s been no accountability in the intelligence community for decades

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March 2, 2025 8:02am
- JackRabbit
  
  Perhaps this type of activity is how they “recruit” blackmail victims in the political arena, by entrapment.
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:49am
- Anthony Melchett
  
  Any outrage from the nz media yet? Or are they too busy clearing their own chat histories?
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:09am
Souvlaki

I guess the chances of Luxon reading, let alone taking on board this ‘on the button’ column are about zero….sadly.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360597340/damien-grant-difference-between-christopher-luxon-and-andrew-bayly
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March 2, 2025 8:03am
- Simon
  
  Grant writes controlled MSM rubbish. If it were not the case he would not appear in MSM.
  
  National are rubbish across the board. They are worse than useless.
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:13am
  - pdm
    
    Simon I disagree.
    
    Damien Grant is the only Political opinion writer worth reading at Stuff. It is disappointing he is not featured a few more days a week.
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:36am
    - Simon
      
      Replace Luxon with someone else and National will remain rubbish.
      
      Grant (really MSM) is promoting the idea that the National party itself is sound it just needs to right people to drive it.
      
      The reality is the National are fundamentally broken in that they don’t act in their voters interests. National work for the expansion of the political and central power of the state. National think they have the necessary characteristics and skills to wield the power of the state to force NZ into an image of how things should be.
      
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      March 2, 2025 10:05am
      - PurplePen
        
        ” National think they have the necessary characteristics and skills to wield the power of the state to force NZ into an image of how things should be.”
        
        That equally applies to Labour, Greens and TPM.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:00am
      - kowtow
        
        They seem very proud of their Teals , not to mention Luxon nailing his colours to the mast of the fast sinking climate ship and his commitment to undermining our once egalitarian constitution with “partnership”.
        
        I’m afraid their whole parliamentary party is not for purpose.And we the voter know nothing of the backroom boys and girls who’re funding and directing it.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:08am
      - pdm
        
        Simon you are critiquing on piece by Grant which is focused on how Luxon handled the Bayly issue and his Hosking interview.
        
        Damien Grant writes wide ranging articles on a variety of subjects. He is always measured and informative and presents a view that is not seen from any other Stuff writers.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:32am
  - NK
    
    Grant writes controlled MSM rubbish. If it were not the case he would not appear in MSM.
    
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    Perhaps the most ill-informed comment of the weekend on this blog.
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:13pm
  - Warren Murray
    
    I wonder if you read it?
    
    While I agree with your criticism of National; in this piece Grant points out Luxon’s failings and that he’s unlikely to apply to himself the same standards that he expects of others. He also says National are doomed unless Luxon steps down. Having been gifted the keys to Premier House, he fails to grasp in politics, unlike any of his previous jobs, he’s got to reapply every day. He’s not only a terrible communicator; he’s evidently not learning how to improve.
    
    I disagree with your sweeping dismissal of Grant; I tend to think Stuff’s intro statement says much about how they publish this ‘Libertarian’ view as a tokenistic attempt to be balanced.
    
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    March 2, 2025 1:38pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Let’s say National are rubbish Simon. The implication therefore is that the last Labour Government, who spent billions and billions more than they had, made virtually every Government stat (health, education, law and order, transport etc) worse, created racial disharmony and to top it off, created insane inflation, would be a pit of steaming excrement.
    
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    March 2, 2025 1:58pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Luxon will not read anything that shows there is no climate emergency. He just reads the polls.
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:13am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Apparently Luxon and Willis are in possession of a book that proves the climate scam is not a scam.
    Remember the time when they made Maureen Pugh read it!
    I couldn’t help thinking that it would have been much easier at the time for James Shaw to provide the book to Maureen as a response to her query.
    But he got all emotional therefore Luxon and Willis had to publically humiliate Maureen.
    Not a big change from the previous régime.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:03am
  - peterwn
    
    Intelligent reading of quality polls is an essential part of politics. Anything else just hands an advantage to the enemy.
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:12am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes it is strange.
  
  I witnessed a Minister become frustrated in a meeting with officials. She picked up one of those heavy desk staplers and threw it at the wall of her beehive office. It brought the meeting to an end. There were no consequences and no apology.
  
  We will never know all of the facts in this latest case. This government is becoming as open and transparent as the last government.
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:41am
  - kowtow
    
    Throwing staplers at a wall is outrageous .
    
    All that did was bring the meeting to and end.Unproductive.
    
    Now had she properly used it to staple the bureaucrats heads …….
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:13am
  - pdm
    
    BY obviously a Minister of our generation.
    
    She would have grown up with teachers throwing chalk and other missiles at kids in class.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:22am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Haha, yep.
      4th form Science class.
      Talking with friend sitting next to me.
      Teacher (male) chucked one of those wooden blackboard dusters at us.
      Good shot – landed on my desk.
      We stopped talking.
      Never forgot it.
      
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      March 2, 2025 10:28am
      - fightingtemeraire
        
        At the Auck Nautical School in the 70’s. it was run by the late GREAT Capt Macmillan.
        
        Friday afternoon ColRegs, make a mistake and a 1kg Norie’s Tables would fly across the room or if he was behind you a slap across the back of the head and the shout, “Bwana’s Belting”!~!!!
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:24am
      - lifesgood
        
        The precious little flowers of today would need government funded counselling for years after something like that Gravelroad.
        
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        March 2, 2025 12:24pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        1962 Heretaunga College. Mt Armaru. Baseball fan/expert picher.
        
        Used to pitch blackboard duster with unerring accuracy, next to the target(usually male) with enough force to bounce of the back wall.
        
        Peace reigned.
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:13pm
    - peterwn
      
      There was a Giles cartoon (UK) years ago showing Chalky throwing a piece of chalk at a pupil. The pupil commented – Selwyn-Lloyd’s (Education Minister equivalent) wage cuts have properly niggled him this time – there is weight behind these pieces of chalk.
      At my high school, boxes of chalk were not issued to teachers. They had to send a kid to the office who was given six sticks of chalk only.
      
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      March 2, 2025 11:19am
      - pdm
        
        pw – break them in half and you had 12 potential missiles if you are of our generation.
        
        If younger the chalk probably stayed in tact.
        
        Chalk was also handy for pupil chalk fights when teachers made the mistake of leaving the classroom.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:37am
      - grumpy
        
        In our Chemistry class a bit of chalk in a 1/2″ pipe with the gas hose down one end worked really well.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:53am
  - cmm
    
    “I witnessed a Minister become frustrated”
    
    When was this?
    
    I am not surprised it was a she. Men are trained to temper violence. Women are not.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:24am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Excellent point.
      
      I’ve tried to explain to more than one woman why men tend to either get along with each other or remain at a distance.
      
      Women deal with each other through groupthink, gossip and character assassination. If men tried that all hell would break loose so we learn to keep it in check, which is why when male violence happens it’s usually pretty shocking.
      
      Women tend to act out their violence through slamming of doors and throwing of things at other things. If a man did that he’d get a visit from the constabulary.
      
      When in a heated argument men tend to raise their voices as a way to relieve physical tension. Some women adopt the tactic of demanding, why are you raising your voice? It’s a stupid tactic because if the man goes silent the woman has only succeeded in creating a powder keg.
      
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      March 2, 2025 10:34am
      - Paulus
        
        University College, London have recently published a paper that authoratively states that the Brains of Men and Women are different.
        That is accepted by all, but not yet what the difference is.
        I believe it could be well explained in a New Zealand world first.
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:17pm
    - PurplePen
      
      Not all men. If I recall the CEO from NZ Post from some years back used to kick holes in the office wall and lose his temper something rotten.
      
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      March 2, 2025 11:03am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      When was this? March 2012.
      
      BTW it would not have been so funny if the stapler had hit someone in the head. It was one of those decent sized staplers suitable for stapling 20 pages.
      
      I am obviously not going to disclose the name of the Minister. Neither will I respond to guesses.
      
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      March 2, 2025 11:53am
      - PurplePen
        
        Elmar Toime
        
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        March 2, 2025 6:05pm
    - MCōs
      
      ‘Men are trained to temper violence’
      Is that why the prisons are full of wife bashers and the women’s refuge centres can’t cope with the overflow?
      
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      March 2, 2025 2:26pm
      - David Garrett
        
        MCos: an excellent point Sir/Madam
        
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        March 2, 2025 5:51pm
  - peterwn
    
    It could have been worse. Steve Ballmer (former Microsoft CEO) allegedly threw chairs around at meetings.
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:21am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Catholic nuns at primary school tipping over desks and the poor kids sitting behind them ending up on the floor in tears. Throwing hardback books at kids and humiliating them in front of the class.
      I’ll give them one thing though, they never attacked the kids from well off families…
      
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      March 2, 2025 11:44am
      - Bridgenag
        
        Rulers were the main choice of weapon
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:18pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Ours used the edge of the ruler.
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:20pm
      - Lance
        
        @Bridgenag
        Mildy off topic but…
        When I was learning to fly (good old North Shore Aero), there was one instructor who used to take a ruler along with him. If you didn’t keep at least one hand on the engine controls when ‘in the circuit’ (or at least final approach) he would belt you on the hand with said ruler.
        I remeber thinking.. ‘I am paying good money for this physical abuse’.
        Still, it did work. I always kept at least one hand on the engine controls in the circuit.
        
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        March 2, 2025 4:58pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Sexually repressed women…hard to say whether physical cruelty was better or worse than the sexual abuse more common among men who had taken holy orders…
        
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        March 2, 2025 5:53pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Grant reports that Bayley was “clutching a book by Rory Stewart”. If Bayley is a fan of cuckservative Rory Stewart, the country is better off without him holding any ministerial roles.
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:27am
  - kowtow
    
    100%
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:01am
  - Gussy Fink-Nottle
    
    Rory Stewart is the living embodiment of all that is wrong with the ‘modern’ right.
    A condescending statist.
    He still can’t believe Kamala lost.
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:18am
    - MCōs
      
      Never heard of him
      Sounds like a Scottish tenor singing about Loch Lomond
      
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      March 2, 2025 11:51am
      - Conservatarian
        
        Rory Stewart is a cautionary tale for what, say, Chris Bishop or Mark Mitchell might be like in 2029 or 2032
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:34pm
Scott

Regarding the Zelensky debacle, it appears that the USA expected Ukraine would come to the White House and sign the minerals deal. Apparently they could have signed earlier but Zelensky wanted the White house meeting to sign the deal.

Treasury sec reveals Zelenskyy nixed Trump’s mineral deal twice prior to Oval Office blowup

https://www.foxnews.com/media/treasury-sec-reveals-zelenskyy-nixed-trumps-mineral-deal-twice-prior-oval-office-blowup

It seems Zelensky wanted security guarantees before signing. That wasn’t the deal according to the Americans. Security guarantees would be part of a second deal but the minerals deal had to come first to compensate the Americans for hundreds of billions of dollars of aid.

Zelensky appears to have blown up the deal. The Americans expected the deal would be done. Zelensky appears to have over played his hand. He’s now visiting the British PM and King Charles which is all well and good. But they are not going to help make a deal with Russia. He needs America. Much more than they need him.

I think Zelensky needs to apologise and sign the minerals deal. Keep America onside and try and make peace.
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March 2, 2025 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  Many are happy to constantly make the Chamberlain appeasement analogy .
  
  However I suspect Zelensky is more like Churchill , desperate to get the US directly involved in a war not of its choosing. ( that’s as far as the comparisons with Churchill goes though)
  
  Trump ( and JD ) are right not to get so drawn in.
  
  We should all be grateful that such a realist currently resides in the WH.
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:40am
  - Clown
    
    Zelensky is a clown. A bad one at that.
    
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    March 2, 2025 6:06pm
- JackRabbit
  
  Zelenskyy is a puppet and an idiot, as Trump is in the king position.
  
  And I like a lot of what Trump has done. But politics is not a case of Black and White, good and bad, there are fifty shades of money.
  
  One of my concerns with Trump, is who is he making the minerals deal on behalf of? Who benefits?
  
  If it is Blackrock, and the other usual suspects, then Trump is simply continuing the plan that Obama worked on: Overthrowing the Ukraine, allowing – Zelenskyy in as a puppet, to give the elite access to said minerals, which was the underlying reason for provoking the war in the first place, by moving NATO onto Russia’s back door step.
  
  War is never about lines on a map, it is about money and access to natural resources.
  
  So who is Trump bargaining for when he wants Ukraine’s minerals. Clearly the minerals are not going to be dug up and stockpiled on the Whitehouse lawn.
  
  So who is Trump being a proxy for? Blackrock and J P Morgan are already balls deep in Ukraine. Is it them? Is the US govt going to sell the acquired mineral resources to these people? In which case Trump is no better than Obama or Biden.
  
  I think Zelenskyy now knows he has been played and that he was a pawn, despite getting very wealthy from the war, and therefore is in fear for his life.
  
  The Ukraine / Russia issue dates back to 1991, and the fall of the Soviet Union, and every elite grifter was in like a robbers dog to gain access to untapped wealth.
  
  When it comes to Oil and minerals, the puppeteers play the long game. It has taken 34 years for key players to get their hands on Ukraine minerals and resources.
  
  The big question: Is Trump complicit with the HW Bush/Obama/Biden/Deep State manipulation of Ukraine and Russia, or is he too being played?
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:14am
  - MCōs
    
    I keep hearing about this mineral deal
    How will America access the stuff if they are under threat of attack from Russia?
    Will America agree peace on any terms with Russia just so they can get their hands on the minerals because it sure looks that way to me
    Russia’s laughing! America’s laughing!
    Ukraine is left with a much smaller country in a mess
    There’s another conspiracy theory to add to the mix
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:18pm
    - JackRabbit
      
      Will America agree peace on any terms with Russia just so they can get their hands on the minerals because it sure looks that way to me.
      
      And it looks that way to me, and it has been 34 years in the making. It was the USA in 1991 that decided that Ukraine was an independent country and not part of Russia.
      
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      March 2, 2025 12:25pm
      - Taieri
        
        It was the USA in 1991 that decided that Ukraine was an independent country
        ———
        
        No, it was not.
        It was the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian SSR, which adopted the Act of Declaration of Independence in August 1991 as a consequence of the coup attempt in the Soviet Union a few days before. This was followed by a nationwide referendum with more than 90% votes in favour.
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:12pm
      - JackRabbit
        
        @Taieri
        
        My bad. I wrote that incorrectly. Yes the Supreme Court did vote that way. The fall of communism was good. But it did not stop the elite trying to get their hands on the resources, just as they are doing in South Africa, Venezuela, and many other countries.
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:39pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Taeri: Spot on Sir/madam
        
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        March 2, 2025 5:57pm
- G152
  
  In a word NO
  And it would appear that Trump is a Russian lackey
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:14am
- thirteenstars
  
  Indeed.
  
  Here’s Bessent on Bloomberg TV giving some more details:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEgCqJwNHv0
  
  It seems that Zelenskyy delayed the deal until he could be in Washington (OK, fair enough) but then tried to stiff-arm the US *publicly* for security guarantees in exchange for signing the deal.
  
  As Bessent explains, the whole point of the deal was to show everyone, including Russia, that US and Ukraine interests were closely aligned and no one should think about disrupting their arrangements. That’s a pretty sophisticated approach but Zelenskyy couldn’t let go of wanting the US to demonise Putin and commit to security guarantees, which is nuts since a peace process can’t begin with name calling, and giving security guarantees would essentially provide Ukraine with the same protection as NATO membership would.
  
  Sec of State, Rubio, on CNN going into much more detail:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4MzGljlpr8
  
  What a clusterfuck.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:01am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Zelensky doesn’t realise that theres a new script and the ending has been changed.
    Spoiler alert- guess who dies in the end?
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:07pm
- thirteenstars
  
  Not only that but the Europeans are jumping on the bandwagon, intimating an alternative minerals deal between the EU and Ukraine, and providing funds and troops and what looks like actual security guarantees which is essentially the same as NATO Article 5 mutual defence commitments.
  
  That’s what Trump meant to Zelenskyy with, playing with the lives of millions and starting WW3.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:14am
  - David Garrett
    
    Thirteen: Trumps reference to WW III just shows how little he knows about geopolitics in the 21st century.
    
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    March 2, 2025 5:59pm
- Lance
  
  Well one thing is true:
  POTUS is no longer the ‘leader of the free world’. Trump siding with the worlds dictators and despots has seen to that.
  Maybe that’s what Trump wants?
  
  But it is clear the USA will not come to any NATO members defence (article 5) so Europe (and Canada?) needs to create its own future.
  This might be a very good thing.
  Although I am not sure how ‘America will be great again’ if it has gone full isolationist?
  Still, that’s for the clever people in the Whitehouse to sort out
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  March 2, 2025 11:50am
- grumpy
  
  This explains perfectly. Best I have heard.
  https://omny.fm/shows/verdict-with-ted-cruz-1/zelenskyy-crashes-burns-epic-oval-office-meltdown
  
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  March 2, 2025 12:01pm
- bjools
  
  A thought or two.
  1. Many of these rare earth minerals are still undeveloped, so thew US will have to develope them first, before exploitation.
  2. The agreement was to help offset payments already made (by BIDEN).
  3. Starts to align (with skin in the game) the US with Ukraine, giving better leverage in negotiations with Russia.
  4. The aim is to get the aggressor (Russia) to STOP shooting.
  A side issue
  An agreement with Russia, will start to break the alliances with China and Russia. This will break up BRICS. He has already started working on India.
  
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  March 2, 2025 2:43pm
  - Handyman
    
    @bjools. This is the most sensible comment so far.
    The mining deal IS the security guarantee. It will take billions of American dollars and many years to develop even the first product from the mines and will carry on for decades. Russia will not invade through US mines with lots of EU troops about the place.
    Some people, maybe Zelensky included, have the idea that the US is going to back up trucks to some warehouse and drive away with $500 billion of rare earth minerals, leaving Ukraine defenceless.
    Trump’s plan was brilliant.
    1. Remove US dependency on Chinese rare earths.
    2. Stop the killing
    3. Putin saves face and takes 10 – 15 years to rebuild army.
    4. Get the uber-smug Europeans off their high horses.
    5. All with no US casualties.
    
    Instead, Zelensky went all toddler demanding US start WW3 by fighting Russia.
    
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    March 2, 2025 5:02pm
- rangitoto
  
  It was notable that Vance and Trump got upset when Zelensky implied Putin couldn’t be trusted. We learned they are loyal to their bestie.
  
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  March 2, 2025 6:16pm
Bridgenag

“You don’t have the cards right now” – “I’m not playing cards Mr President” – “Oh you’re playing cards, you’re gambling with the lives of millions of people”
Thoughts on the most amazing bilateral meeting and press conference of all time.

https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/you-dont-have-the-cards-right-now?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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March 2, 2025 8:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Amazing – An American President who doesn’t seem to be a war-monger.
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:22am
  - Gravelroad
    
    No, but he is a DICTATOR – according to folks I know who are outraged about the poor public service workers losing their jobs because of that terrible fellow Musk//
    Same people who now boycott starlink.
    Tesla still ok though.
    Am waiting for same outrage about the employees so obsessed with their sexual preferences that they have to talk about them at work.
    
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    March 2, 2025 8:46am
    - Bridgenag
      
      In the aftermath, world leaders including New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon rallied behind Zelenskyy, posting support on X and other platforms. Yet, ominously, influential Republican Senator Lindsey Graham firmly backed Trump’s stance. Should Zelenskyy lose Senate and House Republicans, along with American public opinion, his position could become untenable.
      
      https://open.substack.com/pub/cranmer/p/breaking-point-how-zelenskyys-own?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
      
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      March 2, 2025 9:05am
    - kowtow
      
      Amazing isn’t it ,how all the people outraged at the loss of civil service jobs in the US never gave a shit about the loss of blue collar jobs ( and deindustrialisation) to China , mexico ,canada …….
      
      They even came up with the snearing , smug ” Learn to code” put down.
      
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      March 2, 2025 9:43am
      - imalwaysright
        
        They should tell the ex civil servants to “Learn to weld”
        
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        March 2, 2025 10:53am
  - Stu2
    
    Behaving like a trainee mafia don – found someone in trouble and is intent on extracting vast amounts of their wealth in exchange for making the beatings stop.
    
    But a real don provides onging protection, so they can continue extracting vast amounts of wealth.
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:21am
- BananaLlama
  
  First time i have ever seen a foreign leader kicked out of the Whitehouse.
  Marco Rubio is fuming now, alot of people spent alot of political capital to get that meeting to go ahead.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4MzGljlpr8
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:22am
  - kowtow
    
    Rubio and JD will be jockeying for the Republican nomination. JD’s was theatre for his run.
    
    The architects of the deal agreed in Kiev ( or whatever we’re meant to call it these days) didn’t want Zelensky going to WH to sign , knowing the personalities involved .
    
    Zelensky advisors pushed him to go .it’s alleged he spoke to senior Democrats before he got there ( they advised him to “be tough”.)
    
    Get the feeling some background figures don’t want the war to end?
    
    The only person who truly wants this to end is Trump , but all the luvvies say he’s the crazy bad guy!
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:53am
    - BananaLlama
      
      This isn’t the first time he has gone to America and shouted at the President of America apparently doing the same to Biden behind closed doors.
      Now he is running a victory lap across Europe getting adulation and praise from all of their leaders. Very strange behavior.
      
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      March 2, 2025 11:33am
      - kowtow
        
        Odd I don’t remember that being a bigly story .
        
        Were the media protecting their darlings.
        
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        March 2, 2025 3:46pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Talking impeachment in Ukraine
    
    https://youtu.be/yIb3rlYMfOc?si=xGXYhBNRY5vZjxvT
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:04am
  - Master Mariner
    
    It seems it was already premeditated by Ukraine, Next day go and sign Loans from UK for Ukrainian war effort.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGdPwfTa9KE
    So in return US wanted critical Minerals deal signed and which Zelensky came to Whitehouse to sign.
    UK and Europe want to go alone in keeping the war going. This will not end well.
    What critical Minerals in Ukraine ? Sure iron ore, Coal and oil/ Gas. ( All Russian Held territory/ Donbass).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9WKaveRXU&t=415s
    Where are these Critical Minerals Zelensky was trying to peddle ?
    The real riches are the offshore Oil/ Gas fields which was in the process of exploration /development prior to Russia invading as announced by EU President ( As previously commented before, Was this the catalyst for invading Ukraine ?).
    
    Here is some interesting context in Ukrainian Geology.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvxzEa9Rkpg
    
    I believe the US will walk away from taking sides?
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:00am
- Philview
  
  We are picking this up through the prism of biased media. We are presented with an argument that Zelensky wants security guarantees before he hands over access to minerals. At face value any country would ask for the same. I totally accept that the US should stop funding a dead end war. If the rest of the world cares so much about the territorial integrity of Ukraine put your young men on the frontline.
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:51am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    We are picking this up through the prism of biased media.
    
    Indeed…
    No MSM journalist has presented us with such detailed background to the minerals deal and Zelensky’s tantrums as Philip Crump has here:
    
    https://cranmer.substack.com/p/breaking-point-how-zelenskyys-own?
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:35am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Zelensky is a moron. The Donald offered him the Deal of the Century. If I was the Donald I would walk away and leave those European FW so called leaders sort it out. Putin must be laughing his head off. He now has a great chance to achieve his goal of recreating the old Russian Empire.
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:11am
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    What exactly did Trump offer, in exchange for Zelensky giving everything Putin wants to Putin and hundreds of billions in mineral rights to the US? Insofar as anything Trump said was clear, it was pretty clear that what was put on the table for Ukraine did not include US-backed security guarantees. So what was on offer, in this “deal of the century”?
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:22am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Just a small amount of research will show it was to be a joint venture. Profits from recovery to be split 50/50 with Ukraine. They could use their 50% for rebuilding.
      US investment would do the recovery, with US corporations and personel doing the digging (Near the Russian border).
      
      The thinking was that Putin would be hesitant to attack invade if American people were in the firing line, as sure as eggs are eggs the USA war machine would respond to protect its citizens.
      
      Needless to say, the MSM and lefty Europeans cant see anything positive from anything Trump does.
      
      They don’t realise the art of the deal means more than some cardy wearing bureaucrats sitting in a room with blinkers on rehashing old and failed strategies.
      
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      March 2, 2025 2:31pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        More information
        
        https://youtu.be/8wFx3WSVdm8
        
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        March 2, 2025 3:28pm
  - Taieri
    
    The Donald offered him the Deal of the Century.
    ———–
    
    And what exactly was this deal?
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:41am
    - MCōs
      
      Naming rights to the Dead Sea
      
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      March 2, 2025 12:26pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Agree Lastman,
    The best thing for America is to do nothing.
    Throw focus upon the big talking EU warmongers and let them sort it.
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:42am
  - surfing
    
    Trump and Vance behaved worse than school yard bullies. You do have to wonder if Trump is a Russian agent, because he couldn’t do better!
    
    If Trump puts his money where his mouth is, Ukraine will be left to slowly fall — not ideal but the US has no obligation to help. Nation’s come and go.
    
    Russia/China will define the next era of human politics, while the US turns inward and fights about who can use the toilets.
    
    There will be a large build up of European military power. Europeans haven’t been pulling their weight which is the crux of the problem.
    
    My prediction.
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:43am
    - Dudley Quaffquaff
      
      But the US does have an obligation to help. They signed an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine’s borders.
      
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      March 2, 2025 10:43am
      - surfing
        
        Trump honours what he wants on the day. This Trump led US has pulled out from many agreements they signed up for.
        
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        March 2, 2025 12:52pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Which agreement are we talking about and was the guarantee to supply billions in arms and money
        
        Reminds me of Biden and the Presidents guarantee? to protect his countries borders against invasion…Check Biden, check tea right)
        
        Reminds me of the Minsk agreement where Germany & France guaranteed the deal which included autonomy for Donbass.
        How did that work out, yea right
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:35pm
      - kowtow
        
        surfing
        
        Examples please.
        
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        March 2, 2025 3:47pm
    - Fender
      
      Europe is really now or never, when all those migrants get to vote do you think they will man those Europe armies
      Who is breeding and who isn’t
      
      They are going to have massive internal issues to deal with
      
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      March 2, 2025 1:03pm
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  I still can’t believe that was a genuine exchange of views, broadcast to the world.
  Competent negotiators just don’t behave like that.
  But if it was a performance, to what end?
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:32am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Z is a puppet of the Dems who thought he was actually running things.
    He behaved like a spoiled trust fund kid demanding a top up.
    Donald and JD told him to fuck off.
    Now he’s lost his main benefactor and is in real danger of his own people killing him.
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:19pm
    - Lance
      
      Drivel
      Zelensky asked for security guarantees based on Putin’s history of ignoring guarantees.
      This triggered Vance and Trump just joined in.
      
      Vance postering to be the ‘big man’
      
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      March 2, 2025 1:19pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        I wonder if you actually watched the whole meeting or just the point(edited by MSM) showing the US responding to an off topic “”attack”” by Z.
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:37pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Zelensky’s big problem is that in October, he tried to meddle in the US election. That is what pissed Trump off.
      
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      March 2, 2025 2:07pm
      - Steve Otto N Shore
        
        Now the left are sucking up to Zelensky – showing their true colours.
        Even Luxon says he supports Ukraine. Clever. I can not find anything about Luxon supporting Zelensky. There is a big difference between Zelenski and the Ukraine people. Luxon says NZ supports Ukraine. Ok fair enough, but that does not mean we support Zelensky.
        
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        March 2, 2025 3:43pm
      - kowtow
        
        Sept he was in Scranton , Sleepy Joe’s town in swing state Pennsylvania .
        
        There is an investigation into foreign interference .Don’t know current state of play.
        
        https://www.cityandstatepa.com/politics/2024/09/top-house-republican-opens-probe-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyys-visit-scranton-army-ammunition-plant/399825/
        
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        March 2, 2025 3:53pm
- grumpy
  
  Why is it that the same people clamouring for a cease fire in Gaza are the ones most vociferous against a cease fire in Ukraine?
  
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  March 2, 2025 12:37pm
  - Gussy Fink-Nottle
    
    Conditioning.
    
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    March 2, 2025 1:52pm
  - Lance
    
    On what basis you you make that claim?
    Becasue I for one do not agree
    
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    March 2, 2025 2:08pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Good point. I have just found out another thing that pissed Trump off and with some justification.
    
    I feel very bad for the people of Ukraine and also the people of Israel.
    
    Apparently, the Ukraine would not vote in the UN supporting the US position on Isreal. I would if they asked or told Zelensky, and he ignored them.
    
    Silly, Luxon says NZ would arrest Netanyahu. He would not answer a simple question from Howking but answer a question where he should have said I will not answer such a hypothetical question.
    
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    March 2, 2025 5:27pm
Cassandra

Professor Robert McCulloch has become increasingly critical of almost everyone. His latest “The PM and his Mates Have Left NZ Defenseless with No Allies, and Unable to Pay for our own Security” describes how National took office with defence expenditure at 1% of GDP and promptly cut it to 0.9%. For all the talk of “As close,to 2% as possible” from Luxon and a hint of 2.5% by Peters there’s no indication of where the money is coming from. National and its acolytes on this blog will claim that there’s a plan but until we see the detail (actually until we see the money) it’s hard to see that this is anything but wishful thinking. Trump is demanding 3% (when he’s not saying it should be 5%) and looking at the present woeful state of the Navy and Army (RNZAF has some new planes) it looks like 2% will only scratch the surface. The problem is not only the need to replace equipment. Frigates, drones and weapons will cost billions but the staff to operate them will also cost billions. We need more servicemen and women and we’ll need to pay them properly. The current lousy par rates are totally unacceptable. 2% might do this next budget but thereafter it’ll have to be 2.5 and soon 3%. “Growth” over the next 10 or 20 years won’t work. Show me the money!
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March 2, 2025 8:17am
- colina
  
  17000 extra bureaucrats
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:36am
- pdm
  
  Cass I am no Luxon fan but not sure you can blame the depletion of the NZ Defence forces on him.
  
  From what I read it dates back at least as far as Clark and maybe even back further than that.
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:39am
  - Cassandra
    
    Quite right. It’s not Luxon who started it. The current era started with Sid Holland. But we were unprepared in 1914 and 1939. NZ has a long history of waking up after the event, with the result that our losses in both world wars were higher than they should have been. Holyoake, Muldoon etc kept defence below the minimum. The services actually did better under Labour. Tizard, for example, was an excellent Defence Minster, as was Ron Mark. I think Luxon realises that we have got to do better but the question is will he put in the effort to persuade the electorate?
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:00am
    - pdm
      
      Well as in other things David Seymour and ACT are pushing hard. Once more setting the agenda for this Coalition Government.
      
      We would be in dire straits without them.
      
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      March 2, 2025 9:16am
    - backster
      
      From memory Holyoake/Muldoon has 3 Brigadiers in their cabinet McIntyre, McCready. and Thomson,
      smaller cabinet too.
      
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      March 2, 2025 9:51am
      - Cassandra
        
        Two, TF brigadiers. McCready was an NCO. Nice man whom I knew well but no brigadier.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:07am
      - peterwn
        
        And another Brigadier running Security Intelligence.
        
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        March 2, 2025 11:25am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        And a small former corporal
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:27pm
    - MCōs
      
      Who was prepared for WWII except Germany?
      In New Zealand’s case it’s hard to know what constituted preparedness for our involvement in a European war, my father was sailing on a troopship before year’s end 1939.
      
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      March 2, 2025 12:41pm
      - kowtow
        
        Germany wasn’t prepared either .
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:57pm
      - Jack5
        
        Who was prepared for WWII except Germany?
        
        Do you think the Maginot Line was just a rort for cement makers?
        
        According to this source, the Germans in the 1940 attack on France had 2,582 tanks. The French had 3,254. The British expeditionary force had 310, plus a similar number on the way from the UK.
        
        https://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com/2013/11/wwii-myths-german-tank-strength-in.html
        
        Also:
        
        https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france
        
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        March 2, 2025 2:46pm
      - Stu2
        
        Russia wouldn’t have been in a bad position if Stalin hadn’t purged the officer core.
        
        And refused to believe the many, many warnings that Barbarossa was about to happen
        
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        March 2, 2025 7:10pm
- kowtow
  
  Instead of once being a “can do” country we’ve become a can’t do country .
  
  Basically the “Administrative State ” has dedicated itself first to race relations , anti militarism and anti traditional allies and now to climate catastrophism.
  
  Running alongside those themes was always a far left gender agenda, first the sisterhood and now ironically transism ( which is a rejection of feminism) .
  
  Long March through the institutions indeed.Leaving us demoralised , deindustrialised and defenceless.( and broke).
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:41am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    Totally agree.
    And people wonder why our productivity is a mess.
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:53am
    - Paulus
      
      It has been going backwards for some 30 years, and the set up of the Waitangi Tribunal as an ex officio Government.
      
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      March 2, 2025 2:22pm
  - Quail
    
    Stripping farmers .land managers and enthusiastic hunters from the city of the tools required to not only produce but protect the land against vermin ,from rabbits to deer and pigs has also weakened defence capability.
    The bureaucratic led difficulty of maintaining ownership of firearms etc means many are just not bothering any more.
    The results are the loss ,not only of the hardware, but also must be included is the loss of training snd skills required for use!
    The growth of vermin in NZ also can not be denied!
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:21am
- Philview
  
  New Zealand will more likely be taken over by a Chinese proxy Government. Hypothetical scenario a Tribal Coalition given full ownership of all land in New Zealand and in return
  the sort of arrangement negotiated in the Cook Islands where Foreign Affairs are signed off my China. NZ is a sitting duck for this but will take a bit of courage for someone to get the ball rolling.
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:01am
  - JackRabbit
    
    I disagree. So long as China, Russia, and Ferengi types can make money by trading, they will be happy. Traders know better than to shoot or put into chains their customers. Customers without the means to produce can’t pay anything. Even the Mafia know that.
    
    I suspect that the Chinese doing a deal with the Cook Islands, is out of fear. With Trump waving his dick about being a bully and placing tariffs on countries that represent trade competitors, China needs something physically away from China.
    
    I like some of what Trump has done, but bullying and placing tariffs on other countries is contrary to Economics 101.
    
    Anyone on here who thinks tariffs should be applied by the USA, should forward evidence of how they urged the USA to place tariffs on NZ during the 2017 – 2023 reign of Marxist Ardern and her cabal, specifically when she locked us up, and forced us to be injected with an experimental DNA cocktail, making Big Pharma arseholes billionaires in the process.
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:21pm
    - Paulus
      
      Cook’s people totals I believe
      NZ 80,552
      Aus 22,000 est
      Cooks 17,499
      
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      March 2, 2025 2:24pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    “New Zealand will more likely be taken over by a Chinese proxy Government.”
    Fantasy fearmongering.
    If there is any take over of the New Zealand government the most likely proxies will be coming through Washington and Canberra. London may also be in the mix.
    I could run through all the particulars at great length but they are all very well known.
    How many NZ economic, political, military and cultural institutions are deeply linked to other ones across the Tasman or elsewhere in the Anglosphere and how many are linked to Beijing?
    There are already legal provisions to have New Zealand absorbed as another State of Australia on the books RIGHT NOW.
    Although I suppose that one retort to the notion that Wellington will become a vassal state of Washington+Canberra at sometime in the future is that it has already happened sometime in the past.
    
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    March 2, 2025 8:05pm
- kiwikidsnz
  
  a country of 5 million, half of whose households pay no net income tax after credits, is in no position to spend ongoing billions in vainglorious virtue signalling to a succession of warmongering idiots.
  
  NZ still has the option of joining the Australian Federation if you’re really serious.
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:02am
  - kowtow
    
    An underclass now accustomed ,literally, on third world labour to deliver its booze and food to the door , paid for by hard working farmers who the Labour, Maori and Green parties hate ( with National not far behind)
    
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    March 2, 2025 9:59am
    - MCōs
      
      I don’t have booze/food delivered to the door
      I’m a disgrace to the underclass
      
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      March 2, 2025 12:59pm
      - kowtow
        
        Beardy ?
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:56pm
  - Cassandra
    
    Ensuring the nation’s survival is hardly vainglorious virtue signalling. And who are these warmongering idiots?
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:09am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  It’s refreshing to think that Chloe Swarbrick could be in control of all such matters at the end of next year.
  
  It will be of interest to see how she might negotiate potential demands to resurrect Maori Battalion.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:43am
CJames

NZ recently banned greyhound racing as a result of activist pressure. The type of people that went to dog racing were the type (mainly white lower class) politicians feel they can safely ignore. That banning won’t be the end of the campaign. As the article in Spiked points out, it is just step along the way in a world-wide immiserating campaign
https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/03/01/hands-off-our-greyhounds/
I wonder what will be next?
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March 2, 2025 8:58am
- kowtow
  
  The UK who lead in the “bash the countryside” politics has a think tank telling Labour to introduce personalised “carbon budgets”.
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:09am
  - imalwaysright
    
    These incremental attacks on the individual are all possible only because of the psychological conditioning that was the sole aim of the covid scam.
    
    We are in stage 2.
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:01am
- marcw
  
  Clearly, banning rodeo sports will be next.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:16am
  - CJames
    
    Rodeos have semi-protected status as many of the competitors are Maori farmhands from the East Coast.
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:50pm
Bridgenag

Well Being: Measles- Truth Versus Fiction
and why we will continue to have outbreaks

“A personal risk-benefit analysis regarding vaccination, informed by fully transparent access to relevant data, and the freedom to act on that analysis is something that every parent and patient should have the right to undertake.

This is what informed consent and freedom of choice are all about.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/well-being-measles-truth-versus-fiction?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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March 2, 2025 9:17am
Maggy Wassilieff

I was wondering in what role was John Tamihere in when he went to China in June 2024 and hosted a group of Mainland Chinese businessmen in Auckland in September 2024.

https://www.idcpc.gov.cn/english2023/lldt/202406/t20240620_164311.html

https://www.waipareira.com/news-events/chinese-delegation-strengthen-relationships-amongst-te-whanau-o-waipareira-hospitality

Was it as the CEO of Waipareira Trust, the CEO of Whanau Ora Commissioning Agency, or as the President of the Maori Party?

Ostensibly the China visit was to gain access to a top Medical imaging/Technology Company –

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE2409/S00061/chinas-leading-medical-device-company-building-trade-relationship-withnational-urban-maori-authority-members.htm
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March 2, 2025 9:18am
- G152
  
  Hey, you are not supposed to have noticed
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:17am
Maggy Wassilieff

Thank Goodness for Graham Adams, who seems to be the only Journalist now willing to keep the spotlight on the relationship between the Maori Party and John Tamihere’s control of taxpayers’ money.

Meanwhile, Te Pāti Maori’s annual accounts for the year to December 2023 were filed with the Electoral Commission almost six months late. The accounts are incomplete and appear not to have been signed by the party’s executive team.

The audit report for the accounts is also missing. Pages 12 and 13 are headed “Audit Report Te Pāti Māori for the year ended 31 December 2023”.

The pages have been left blank.

https://centrist.nz/graham-adams-tamiheres-woes/
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March 2, 2025 9:26am
- Gravelroad
  
  I repeat- rules for me but not for thee.
  Entrenched now.
  No one in authority will have the guts to seriously challenge certain sections of our society regarding their use of taxpayer generated funds.
  Tell me I am mistaken………
  
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  March 2, 2025 9:40am
  - Grunter
    
    You are not mistaken.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:27am
  - Ruahine
    
    I can recall that during the Covid scam Ardern used to be on TV smirking about how there were ‘Millions for Maori’ every time she opened her mouth.
    What she was actually saying was that there were Millions for Tamahere and the Maori Party. A likely coalition partner.
    
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    March 2, 2025 11:53am
    - kowtow
      
      Constitutional partner is what they were gunning for.Sadly now Luxon seems to be in the same boat.
      
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      March 2, 2025 12:37pm
    - Damocles11
      
      Luxon is cut from the same cloth.
      
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      March 2, 2025 1:41pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Tamihere better hope that Phil Twyford doesn’t get wind of his shenanigans !
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:11am
  - kowtow
    
    nah Twyford will allow himself to be jeered off the podium and led away , for his own safety from the baying mob , by a huge posse of police.
    
    That that happened , while the whole parliamentary caucus of the Greens screeched genocidally “river to sea’ relatively unremarked in New Zealand is an appalling indictment on the society we have become .
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:36pm
- Paulus
  
  So what is not normal in this ?
  
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  March 2, 2025 2:27pm
slightlyrighty

There has been some lively discussions on this matter. One take on this is that the US and NATO contributed to this by reneging on the deal not to expand and enlarge NATO.

Let me say this now. No Such Deal exists.

In July 1990 the Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, agreed to a united Germany’s incorporation into NATO. The US secretary of state at the time, James Baker, had previously told Gorbachev that NATO’s jurisdiction would not move beyond the inner German border, but Washington retreated from this position after examining the practicalities of part of Germany being outside the Alliance. As part of the deal reached by Gorbachev and the West German chancellor, Helmut Kohl, no forces of other NATO countries could be deployed on former German Democratic Republic (GDR) territory until after Soviet forces had left, and then only temporarily. There would also be no deployment of nuclear weapons. Moscow also received financial sweeteners, including 12 billion Deutschmarks to resettle returning troops. However, Gorbachev neither asked for nor was given any formal guarantees that there would be no further expansion of NATO beyond the territory of a united Germany.

From the end of 1993, Russian diplomacy voiced increasing opposition to NATO’s further enlargement, but accepted that it could not stop the process. Its chief lament was that several leaders of NATO countries in early 1990 had ruled out the possibility of NATO enlargement, and that the West had misled Russia. As Russia’s former foreign minister, Yevgeny Primakov, noted later with regret, there was no legal force to the statements by Western leaders.

The NATO enlargement myth also contains an important distortion of fact: while the Russian Federation became the de facto legal successor to the USSR after the latter’s collapse, Russia existed in different borders and its security interests were not synonymous with those of the USSR. Indeed, Russian leaders at the time did not want the West to regard the new Russia as a truncated form of the USSR, but rather as a country that had regained its sovereignty and was returning to its European roots after the tragedy of Bolshevism. In addition, the USSR signed the Charter of Paris in November 1990 with the commitment to ‘fully recognize the freedom of States to choose their own security arrangements’. The NATO–Russia Founding Act, signed in 1997, similarly pledged respect for the ‘inherent right’ of all states ‘to choose the means to ensure their own security’.

So Did NATO renege on it’s agreements that did not actually exist, or did Russia renege on agreements that did?
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March 2, 2025 9:45am
- kowtow
  
  OK did the western allies renege on their Atlantic Charter deal of universal freedom post Potsdam and allow the disgusting genocidal Soviets to occupy all their conquered territories setting us up for this confrontation……how far back do we litigate this awful tragedy .
  
  And that’s what matters . Ordinary people’s lives destroyed .
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:54am
- Master Mariner
  
  “Let me say this now. No Such Deal exists.”
  Hymm ok, Deal/Promise/agreement.
  
  https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal–20160530-snap-story.html
  “Op-Ed: Russia’s got a point: The U.S. broke a NATO promise”.
  Well my take is that the Russians assumed they had a Deal/Agreement/ etc.
  
  Plenty of evidence stating otherwise.
  
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  March 2, 2025 12:21pm
- Master Mariner
  
  “We broke our Deal”
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mciLyG9iexE
  
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  March 2, 2025 12:29pm
- Jake Dee
  
  You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how diplomacy works.
  Any sort of formal agreement is just a step in publicly putting on paper what has been privately agreed to.
  If the Western powers led Moscow to believe that was there understanding and if Moscow acted as if that was the agreement then that was the agreement.
  It’s no good just say “Ha Ha suckers! I didn’t sign and stamp anything !”
  The West backed out agreements on NATO expansion because of the usual mix of arrogance and incompetence but mainly because they believed that Moscow didn’t matter and couldn’t do anything about it.
  Any squealing now about how there was “No such deal” is just Western lawyering leaders hunting around for an excuse to say that none of this was their fault.
  
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  March 2, 2025 8:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

As Ramadan has started, does this mean Halal lunches will not be prepared for Muslim secondary School children this month, or will they be delivered and not eaten?
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March 2, 2025 9:48am
- Gravelroad
  
  Am predicting they will be delivered and not eaten.
  Possibly given to Muslim students to take home for later perhaps.
  Time for this politicised school lunch socialism to be discontinued.
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:08am
  - AitchW
    
    Gravelroad, yup it’s a solution to a non existent problem. Yet another brain fart, an electoral bribe disguised as kindness from the worst PM of all time.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:12am
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    Agree 100%.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Rivers to Sea Swarbick and Davidson can collect ’em all up and send them off, preferably in person, to their favourite straving waifs , the darlings of Gaza.
    
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    March 2, 2025 10:50am
    - Bridgenag
      
      Oz is talking about taking in 3,000 from Gaza
      
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      March 2, 2025 12:31pm
      - kowtow
        
        Election coming up , gotta appease the crazies in the marginal city seats .
        
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        March 2, 2025 1:18pm
      - Steve Otto N Shore
        
        Oz has enough problems with the religion of peace now, and they want 3000 more problems?
        
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        March 2, 2025 3:49pm
- AitchW
  
  Maggy I’ve read the rules for Ramadan and while there are exemptions to the rules concerning fasting, children are not exempt. (Unless a girl is menstruating.)
  It’s fair to assume that if a Muslim family is strict enough that they insist on Halal food then they will observe the Ramadan fast.
  Or am I just an infidel as well as a coloniser, unable to grasp the concept of Ramadan?
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:09am
- PurplePen
  
  Muslim families are not ones that don’t feed their kids so aren’t really in need of the school lunch handouts just as the majority of kids at these schools. Recent reports from the Muslim community leaders us them saying give us the money and we’ll make the halal lunches. One assumes from this that if there was a family in their community suffering bad times financially they’d get support from their Muslim community.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:24am
  - Quail
    
    PP
    Yes, “give us the money “ ?
    They can feed their own children with their own money!
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:47pm
- Paulus
  
  No, I understand that they cannot eat such as lunch during Ramadam
  – unless I am told she is pregnent.
  
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  March 2, 2025 2:28pm
leoj

Luxon’s comment about 100% support for Ukraine is Luxon’s way of sucking up to the liberal regimes that dislike Trump.

Doesn’t he realise that Trump does not want war and the time for the US paying for foreign wars is over.

Europe needs to stand up. The war is in their backyard and if they are really concerned they can do something about it, but they won’t.

The Don has said, get stuffed, it’s not our problem and the US taxpayer has been screwed one too many times.

Putin is indeed a problem but not the US’s problem.
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March 2, 2025 9:54am
- kowtow
  
  ‘if they are really concerned they can do something about it, but they won’t.’
  
  Lots of people breathlessly claiming other NATO allies are next for the gobbling crocodile Putin ( who is an evil man) .
  
  But if they really believe their rhetoric then why haven’t they ditched net zero and re introduced conscription and re arming ……..
  
  …….or are they still prepared to let Uncle Sam tax payer stump up and ultimately send his young men to die in Europe , in wars the Europeans refuse to prepare for , in order to prevent.
  
  Si vis pacem parabellum.
  
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  March 2, 2025 10:48am
  - Ra Henare
    
    A bit of critical thinking. shock horror.
    For all those suggesting Putin will march on after occupying Ukraine seem to have failed in the Maths department.
    
    He has already lost hundreds of thousands of young me.
    He will need to “”garrison”” Ukraine.
    
    So where does he get the million or so fighting force to invade another country?
    
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    March 2, 2025 3:14pm
Scooter

Here’s a very good summary of the Trump and Zelensky goings on by Victor Davis Hanson, only 8 minutes but breaks it down concisely.

https://youtu.be/ZVG4YWw3Fqo?si=ghD1KPQG17KMlO6X
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March 2, 2025 10:28am
freemark

Posted this on the Ukraine thread – a couple of days too late but my questions remain:
A few commenters here make strong claims that Russia is on its knees militarily, technologically, economically etc – with far inferior weaponry & soldiers. Also the many claims of brutality, war crimes, rape, kidnapping etc.
I’m really interested in the sources of these claims as it’s opposite from the feeds I get.
We know from the Covifiasco just how effective western propaganda is, are you sure you’re not getting it all over again, to benefit those who are making $billions out of this war?
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March 2, 2025 10:59am
- imalwaysright
  
  “I’m really interested in the sources of these claims”
  
  Mainly from old war movies or the BBC.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:07am
- Northshoredoc
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group_rebellion
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:12am
  - freemark
    
    Ok, but Wikipedia is not a credible source. May have been once.
    But still no actual sources – some movies apparently of donkeys & cars without doors?
    Even MSM has gone quiet as they can’t find verifiable material to support their fantasies.
    I would expect to see reports of the F16’s carving up Russian aircraft – but none?
    I suggest a few Telegram channels. There are many run by Russkis & Ukri’s. I browse occasionally a few from both sides. My conclusion is that Russia is generally kicking arse of demoralised press-ganged Ukrainians short on ammo, weapons & motivation.
    The $billions have gone to US warmongers & Zelensky (& his utterly corrupt regime)
    
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    March 2, 2025 6:36pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    We are still waiting for that list of names of people who were allegedly killed in Bucha. It’s been almost 3 years.
    Transferring children out of warzones and placing orphans with adoptive families is exactly what people should do.
    This is very weak teas for “genocide”
    
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    March 2, 2025 8:28pm
- kowtow
  
  Their battlefield casualties, both man and machine , slow slogging progress , need for North Korean infantry all speak for themselves.
  
  Economically I don’t know , they have plenty of friends buying their black market oil , and most oddly of all until relatively recentlyZelensky himself was allowing their gas onto NATO countries .
  That’s weird in the extreme . Cui bono.
  
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  March 2, 2025 11:12am
  - Bridgenag
    
    I’d like to know what Zelensky’s cut is.
    
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    March 2, 2025 12:36pm
    - Steve Otto N Shore
      
      10% for the Big Guy? Just like that other Big Guy?
      
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      March 2, 2025 4:23pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  You just need to look at the videos coming in from the frontlines of Russians riding around on donkeys, horses, motorcycles and in old cars with no doors. If they weren’t on their knees militarily why would they be doing any of that?
  
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  March 2, 2025 3:10pm
  - Eastlander
    
    Soldiers use whatever is convenient at the time. Donkeys and horses are good for hauling gear in terrain where heavy lorries can’t go. Motorcycles are good for fast infantry assaults (speed is especially important in a battle space where any movement in the open has to be effected quickly before recon drones spot you and attack drones follow promptly). Vehicles of any sort can be useful. The Ukrainians do things like this as well and it doesn’t mean they’re in trouble either.
    
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    March 2, 2025 6:00pm
  - freemark
    
    Which videos? Which source? Remember there were many videos of Chinese citizens dropping dead in streets of Covid. How that totally false fear-mongering swung global opinion & created the biggest fuck-up in human history.
    
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    March 2, 2025 6:39pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    I would really like to see these donkey assault cavalry videos. Can you link them for me?
    Interesting points to look out for will be geolocations of place time, people’s faces and a reasonable explanation as to how they obtained the videos in the first pace.
    
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    March 2, 2025 8:31pm
- Jules99
  
  Many commentators seem to believe that modern Russia is no different than the old USSR. It’s come along way since then, with Moscow and St Petersburg being modern European-looking cities. Moscow attracts young people from the former Soviet states for well-paid jobs and opportunities. Yes, there are deprived areas in the regions, but it’s a big country that is not all that populated outside of the cities. Really makes me wonder whether the intel is coming from. From sources inside Russia, or from a military industrial complex that wants the West to think that they are on the verge of winning and just need to send another billion or two of taxpayer dollars?
  
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  March 2, 2025 3:16pm
- NothingLeft
  
  There is very detailed tracking of information by various full-time non-govt analysts like Andrew Perpetua (mostly on Bluesky who daily collates data from drone videos published by both sides (and deliberately trying to bias towards Russian sources, even though he’s against them in order to get more accurate picture of relative losses) of all equipment on both sides that can be visually verified as being destroyed – that paints a clear picture of the types of equipment being fielded by both sides, and relative loss rates, hundreds of thousands of videos analyzed, Russia’s has been in steep decline of late. https://www.youtube.com/@andrewperpetua/videos
  
  Then there is covert cabal channel that has been analyzing Russian weapons depots using satellite and other info to assess their weapons stockpiles – which show how close Russia is to running out of everything, what remains being mostly 50+ years old and practically unsalvageable:
  https://www.youtube.com/@CovertCabal/videos
  
  And daily videos from Russian front lines of appalling state and treatment of their troops published on Telegram, X and Bluesky (youtube not very good due to heavy censorship of combat violence). Common now to see soldiers on crutches forced into the fight as Putin regime has active policy of trying to minimize wounded casualties that cost the state – dead don’t have ongoing costs.
  
  Popular daily summaries that I watch most of for last two years, and which pick up notable stories of day;
  Denys Davydov, Ukranian pilot living in west who is generally pretty balanced in talking about good and bad things happening: https://www.youtube.com/@DenysDavydov/videos
  ATP Geopolitics, prolific and informative with detailed daily summaries of hits and losses but annoying far-left political bias: https://www.youtube.com/@ATPGeo
  Ukrainian biased success reports source, prolific: https://www.youtube.com/@WarthogProduction/videos
  Funny Australian daily summary: https://www.youtube.com/@AutocracyTV
  High production value daily short reports of successes from ukrainian source:
  https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos
  
  Other collated tracking of losses:
  https://www.ukrainewarstatistics.com/dashboard
  https://onedrive.live.com/edit?id=E33161B435D127BA%21157482&resid=E33161B435D127BA%21157482&ithint=file%2Cxlsx&authkey=%21AHy27V-_Woq340I&wdo=2&cid=e33161b435d127ba
  
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  March 2, 2025 3:31pm
  - freemark
    
    Thanks for links. I’ll check them out soon. I’m slightly biased against YouTube as I saw many items not conforming to the desired narrative taken down over the last few years, but I’m open minded. Perhaps my bias is to live in a world that embraces traditional values, family, anti-woke etc, which is probs why my support lies more with Trump & Putin than “the other side.” I believe after the disastrous Communist experiments of USSR (where they extremely successfully exported it to the West) Russia has much to offer us, & I believe that they learnt enough about the inevitable results to renounce it as an economic/societal system. I’ve had 2 delightful Russian squeezes that were travellers here – to a small degree they influenced my thinking – cos I don’t believe I was of much value as a honeypot operation. But stranger things have happened. I remain in touch- they are saddened to be at war however still live pretty well over there in clean, migrant & crime free cities with all the trappings of decent society.
    
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    March 2, 2025 7:24pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Check out “A Skeptic Reports”
      He has taken to posting 3 roundups almost everyday
      battlefield reports, Political roundups and a collection of video conversations of other commenters
      https://substack.com/@askeptic
      https://askeptic.substack.com/
      
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      March 2, 2025 8:37pm
Bridgenag

Australian Federal Police finally drops Covid vaccine mandate but ‘devastating’ effects live on

https://open.substack.com/pub/rebekahbarnett/p/australian-federal-police-finally?r=5aqwv0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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March 2, 2025 1:13pm
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360598888/helen-clark-says-europe-traumatised-trump-describes-new-international-era-terrifying
I’m more likely to be terrified of Ms Clark and her authoritarian “ we know best” colleagues.
Seriously, who cares what a former entitled politician from a small country in the remote South Pacific thinks?
The news would be if Ms Clark used her continuing doting media platforms to praise Trump.
Of course she’s going to encourage fear and loathing of Trump.
She is a left winger who had some influence once, and would like to have some more in future.
No thanks.
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March 2, 2025 1:59pm
- Jack5
  
  Clark should get herself a directorship or two for a hobby.
  
  There are plenty of companies for former Prime Ministers to wreck.
  
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  March 2, 2025 2:32pm
- JerJer
  
  Who would have guessed Helen Clarke doesn’t like hard men. Seriously though, her and her pathetic ilk of soft useless lefties are terrified of everything, scared, offended, whatever. They were the same before trump, and the same now. Pathetic losers using Trump (now) as the current excuse for their failure. I guess he is taking all the money away thst they use to push their hopeless ideology so, that would make them angry….but they didn’t mention that. Anyway…who really cares what she thinks. She’s right up their with Jacinda in terms of likability and respect.
  
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  March 2, 2025 2:49pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    She has never met a hard man!!!
    
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    March 2, 2025 4:22pm
- Jack5
  
  How’s Clark’s geography?
  
  About 25 minutes into her TVNZ interview:
  
  “Just as the US asserted primacy over the West Pacific for decades, no doubt China wants primacy over the West Pacific. And unlike the US it’s geographically located there …”
  
  The state of Hawaii is 3850km west of San Francisco.
  
  That would put it in the West Pacific, wouldn’t it?
  
  https://youtu.be/M200pm3Paq0?si=1aqFeoGgooj4rhBy
  
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  March 2, 2025 4:36pm
- kevn
  
  Gravel… Remember her reduced shower head proposal and those rubbish flouro bulbs?
  
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  March 2, 2025 5:01pm
Swifty

A Labour ex-Housing Minister reveals either a. he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about or b. does know but it doesn’t suit his politics or political allegiances to say so:

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/ex-housing-minister-mark-gosches-overcrowding-fears-15-to-20-people-to-a-house-47091

Not once does he or the author talk about the elephant in the room – that of too much government regulation of the housing market lead by the abominable RMA.

Nor of course does he talk of the rapid escalation of house prices under the nine years of his government nor of the stratospheric rises under the following Labour government.

And then he complains about governments not learning from history!

Pathetic. Just pathetic.
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March 2, 2025 2:11pm
Jack5

Christchurch folk can download the City Council’s 2025/26 plan.

The council invites citizens to do this and “Kōrero mai” (with English translation for the 90 per cent of the city that doesn’t know Maori — “Let’s talk”)

Proposed new borrowing is $443 million, which will take the city’s gross debt to $3.17 billion. Rates to rise again, this time by 7.58 per cent. To come from ratepayers: about quarter of a billion dollars.

“Three Waters”, which is water supply, sewerage, and storm water to cost $462.28m.

The new sports stadium — “One New Zealand Stadium at Te Kaha” — is budgeted to get $92.45 million in 2025-26 and $21.2 million the following year.

The council’s district includes 159 rating units of “Maori freehold” land with total capital value of $37 million. The council can grant “remission” from rates for this land. This might surprise the thousands of Ngai Tahu readers of Kiwiblog.

For a download of the 32 pages the council calls “consultation document” on the annual plan:

https://ccc.govt.nz/assets/Documents/The-Council/Plans-Strategies-Policies-Bylaws/Plans/annual-plan/2025-2026/WEB-FRP7655-Draft-Annual-Plan-2025-26-CD-v2.pdf

For the whole caboodle:

https://ccc.govt.nz/assets/Documents/The-Council/Plans-Strategies-Policies-Bylaws/Plans/annual-plan/2025-2026/WEB-FRP7655-Draft-Annual-Plan-2025-26-Full.pdf
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March 2, 2025 2:27pm
Steve Otto N Shore

When Elon Musk has cleaned out the US Public Sector, can he please come to NZ and do the same?
“The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is doing what so many government agencies have seemingly forgotten how to do: saving taxpayer dollars.”
$65 Billion is a lot of money to save. Imaging what the budgets are. Sure, America is big with a lot of people, but Musk has picked off a scab and exposed a festering sore.

https://politicalactionalerts.com/elon-musks-doge-slashes-65-billion-in-wasteful-spending-to-save-taxpayers/?
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March 2, 2025 2:54pm
- MCōs
  
  Yeah
  He can sack everyone at WINZ except
  1 – My neice
  2 – The people who dish out our pensions every fortnight, eh Steve!
  
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  March 3, 2025 1:57am
Steve Otto N Shore

Zelenskyy Strikes US Minerals Deal Signaling Shift to Pragmatic Aid Strategy.
So he has learnt how the game is played – when you have no cards.
They have to pay back. The US is not WINZ, giving free handouts. “Just send cash” no longer works. Zelensky’s entitlement just came to a grinding halt. Guess who is going back to Washington?

https://politicalactionalerts.com/zelenskyy-strikes-us-minerals-deal-signaling-shift-to-pragmatic-aid-strategy/?
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March 2, 2025 3:25pm
- Ghost
  
  Incredible, a post from 4 days ago posted as if it actually means something today.
  
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  March 2, 2025 3:49pm
  - Steve Otto N Shore
    
    Steve, ignore him.
    
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    March 2, 2025 3:52pm
    - Ghost
      
      Yes ignore the fact you’ve posted an article 4 days old. Anyone want to educate this person what happened yesterday and why a 4 day article is not relevant.
      
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      March 2, 2025 3:58pm
      - Steve Otto N Shore
        
        The item I came across was not dated Ghost. It was from a different source from what I presumably posted before.
        You have done this before. Who made you the hall monitor? Turning into personal attacks.
        I am thinking you are a Kiwiblog moderator. If not then knock it off. No report – I find that as childish as downticks.
        
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        March 2, 2025 4:20pm
      - Ghost
        
        God only knows what you are reporting. Being shown that your article is 4 days old and not relevant after what happened yesterday. Something very obvious if you read what you link to, which is based on a tweet from Feb 26th. Something that is very obvious if you took a moment to look at what is happening around the issue.
        
        And no, I wouldn’t have the patience to be a moderator, especially with your posts.
        
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        March 2, 2025 6:50pm
      - Steve Otto N Shore
        
        Ghost at 6.50.
        Just leave it Steve, Ghost has now got troll and stalking status.
        Mods, am I annoying or that person? Online insults are for teen chats, like cyber bullying.
        
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        March 2, 2025 6:59pm
    - Albie
      
      Frickin hilarious Steve! Reminds me of the last interview Roger Waters did with Piers Morgan!
      
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      March 2, 2025 4:14pm
  - MCōs
    
    Although there’s no indication when that article was written there is a tweet embedded from Wednesday last week with pretty much the same information
    Moreover
    The article has the line
    “Rumor has it that Zelenskyy will be making a special trip to Washington soon for a signing ceremony”
    As the whole world knows he went to Washington, but the signing ceremony didn’t take place after everything turned to custard.
    
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    March 3, 2025 1:53am
kevn

Fresh enough?
A few billion for zed plus troops.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/zelenskyy-meets-british-prime-minister-keir-starmer-london-following-trump-oval-office-clash
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March 2, 2025 6:11pm
- pb
  
  The begging for money and scamming of the West for “mineral rights” lays bare the entire Ukraine narrative. Include the bloody backhanders to Hunter after 2014, and you’ve got yourself a motive.
  
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  March 2, 2025 7:35pm
AndyW

Ōpōtiki saw a 50% decrease in meth use after police raids on a Mongrel Mob ring.

If there’s anyone in this country who’s still arguing that gangs are misunderstood and just need compassion, they need to have some semblence of intelligence slapped into them.
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Ghost

Live stream about to start of Firefly’s Blue Ghost about to land on the moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChEuA1AUJAY
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