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Steve Otto(North Shore)

Guess what Walz gave to kids on Halloween?

https://babylonbee.com/news/kids-at-tim-walzs-door-disappointed-as-he-fills-candy-bags-with-tampons?
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November 2, 2024 8:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It should be noted the The Babylon Bee is satire – you know, jokes!
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:28am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    I think practically everybody on this site will be aware of that. Except maybe mike.
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:34am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    Aren’t jokes supposed to include an element of humour though? Tim Walz hands out tampons instead of candy. Oh, my aching sides.
    
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    November 2, 2024 7:52pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      SShhhh. It’s not real.
      
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      November 3, 2024 8:34am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden fitted with muzzle so he can’t bite babies.

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-fitted-with-muzzle-so-he-cant-bite-any-more-babies?
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November 2, 2024 8:05am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That was unbelievable, he out the kids foot in his mouth, then sniffed the babies head, then pretended to bite the babies leg
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He is a sick man. Not just dementia. He sniffs kids too.
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:18pm
Anthony Melchett

I looked at the herald so you don’t have to… won’t make that mistake again if this is what passes as news now.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/trans-mans-pregnancy-and-birthing-journey-in-aotearoa/2SH7ALDG5VDQDDD6QQWKI4FOZ4/

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people. They should be in a lunatic asylum. Or a freak show

Apparently they are going to discuss the problems they had feeding? Well maybe don’t cut your breasts off if you want to be a mum.

What sort of life does the kid have? I notice they haven’t said if it’s male or female yet, they will wait a couple of years before they start grooming it for its own transition as miraculously it too will be born into the wrong body.

Please make it stop.
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November 2, 2024 8:06am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “I notice they haven’t said if it’s male or female yet….”.
  
  The term is “theybies”. Trending in woke parts of the USA. Babies are raised gender neutral so they can choose a gender later in life.
  
  No I’m not joking. 🐷
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:28am
- Flossie
  
  I saw that too, and obviously if the pregnancy was a surprise then all the necessary parts for conception in the normal manner are still available. Therefore this not a man giving birth whatever “their” headspace tells them.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:34am
  - OlderChas
    
    If it can conceive, carry and give birth to a baby it sure as hell is NOT a man! Just bloody ridiculous, and OUR money was spent making this crap.
    
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    November 2, 2024 4:56pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Those that disagree with this should refuse to use their terminology.
  
  Call them man, woman, he, she, etc.
  
  If they control the words we speak, it won’t be long before they control the thoughts we think.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:35am
  - Anthony Melchett
    
    Yep.
    
    Don’t buy into any of it. Give it no respect or airtime.
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:22pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  The Emperor has no clothes. This “man” had a vagina and a womb and as a result got pregnant and had a baby the old fashioned way. She can call herself an effing rabbit if she wants but she is a female.
  
  For the media to make this a miracle approaching a virgin birth is just plain nuts, do they even for one minute think that the majority of the population believes this bullshit ?
  
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  November 2, 2024 1:57pm
- kiwi_chileno
  
  You paid for it! – $237,573 https://www.nzonair.govt.nz/search/?search_type=decisions&q=Trans+and+Pregnant
  
  A selection of content that has been funded under the current government https://www.nzonair.govt.nz/search/?search_type=decisions&q=
  
  The Devil’s In The Data $1 m – Using big data to investigate life’s issues, love, money, health, and community. Aims to discover the country’s collective psyche.
  
  Big Little Blue $810 k – A gentle, thoughtful animated series for 4-to-7-year-olds about two little korora.
  
  Earth Oven With Temuera Morrison $800 k – A globe-trotting cultural exchange designed to celebrate indigenous traditions and foster global understanding, one earth oven at a time.
  
  Crackhead $3.2 m – When Frankie Barker burns her sister’s house down in a late-night drink-and-fry, she’s given an ultimatum: jail or four weeks at flashy rehabilitation clinic
  
  New Zealand Tomorrow $1 m – ‘Comedian’ Guy Williams tackles some of the biggest issues facing Aotearoa New Zealand tomorrow, today.
  
  Poi Stories/Poi Takitini $350 k – Seven elite sportswomen redefine their game and inspire the world through the Maori art of Poi.
  
  Stranded $660 k – Follows the people at the centre of whale rescues across Aotearoa New Zealand with a focus on te ao Maori.
  
  Katie’s Kuri $910 k – A friendship between a lonely girl and her new puppy grows when they attend te reo Maori dog classes together.
  
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  November 2, 2024 2:06pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Trans man = biological female wanting to be a male. Hence the ability to give birth. And people go berserk when this is pointed out? Have we reached peak insanity yet?
  
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  November 2, 2024 7:23pm
Matt Long

Joe Biden called supporters of the Criminal Trump garbage.
Biden’s team then illegally altered the transcript of the conversation.
It’s fortunate Biden is not a criminal, otherwise this would be a crime.
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November 2, 2024 8:09am
- sirknz
  
  As any good lefty will tell you, crime is only done by the poors, and the browns who are fighting back against colonialism.
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:15am
  - kowtow
    
    That’s not ‘crime” , that’s “resistance”.
    
    Crime is when whitey does it.( but only if they’re deplorables or garbage.
    
    And just look at how little ‘news’ is being given to how Two Tier Kier’s regime suppressed the context of the Southport outrage.
    But went all in against the ordinary folk speculating as to the context !
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:55am
- Chuck Bird
  
  The Big Guy is a criminal. He just has not been charged and convicted yet.
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:20am
  - mandk
    
    True.
    
    How else did he amass a fortune of $100+ million, working lifelong as a politician?
    
    Their salaries are not great.
    
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    November 2, 2024 8:52am
    - imalwaysright
      
      I wonder what he plans spending it on…
      
      99% of his current existence is covered by health insurance.
      
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      November 2, 2024 10:12am
    - Mike
      
      It’s more like $10 million.
      
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      November 2, 2024 10:45am
      - Ra Henare
        
        https://www.investopedia.com/joe-biden-net-worth-8655652
        
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        November 2, 2024 4:56pm
- Conservatarian
  
  1984 here we come – altering history for totalitarian purposes.
  
  Although in the real 1984, Reagan defeated the hapless Minnesotan Walter Mondale 525-13 in the electoral college and by nearly 17m in the popular vote. Mondale won Minnesota and, of course, DC.
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:28am
- RoboRob
  
  The current whitehouse team have been alternating transcripts for some time. About time they were called out on it.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:39am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They will suggest Trump is a sore loser. No worry about election interference
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:05pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      They already have – aren’t you listening ?
      
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      November 2, 2024 3:47pm
Yvette

Newsroom –
Analysis: Actions speak louder than words – a trite statement, but one that explains much of why Māori communities will begin their march from the Far North to Parliament in less than a fortnight.
[is the event in less than a fortnight, or will the hikoi take less than a fortnight? -sorry, carry on]
… While the Prime Minister says the Treaty Principles Bill will not progress beyond the select committee stage, what these communities see are the coalition’s actions to progress Act’s flagship legislation that looks to re-define the core principles of the country’s founding document.
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/10/30/encroachment-on-te-tiriti-hiding-in-plain-sight/

• “that looks to re-define the core principles” – so the organisers will display great unity as their late leader, the Maori King, advocated, but without any exactly defined reason, because the legislation they refer to is still days away for actually being known. And they propose transversing the North Island in a ‘hikoi’ to protest this as yet unknown threat.

• “that looks to re-define the core principles” – as suggested several times before, it is a pity ACT’s proposed constitutional bill mentions the Treaty at all, but could simply re-assert that 1 –”Government governs; 2 – legal property rights are protected, and; 3 – all New Zealanders have equal responsibilities and voting rights” [1]

But tangata whenua and tangata tiriti who are opposing the Treaty Principles Bill, and the slew of other moves that encroach on the Treaty of Waitangi and the rights and obligations it affords say they believe the Government’s policies will cause division, not unity.

No, it was Jacinda Ardern, Nanaia Mahuta, and He Puapua that fanned the flames of division.

When protesters gather in Cape Reinga on November 10, and prepare for the nine-day hīkoi to Parliament the Government will get a good idea of how united – or divided – the country is on Treaty issues.

Again, no – if, after walking and using other over-night transport, they arrive in Wellington absolutely united, there will be the rest of the nation doing whatever they do, but not doing it in front of Parliament.

And maybe, this time, a representative delegation (perhaps 10 members) can be met by Parliament officials to deliver some sort of explanation for their being there, unlike Mallard’s attempt to wash the great unwashed or Jacinda’s treatment of the ‘rivers of filth’ which without a climax, hung around for an Ardernity until inevitable police involvement provided the Occupational climax they sought
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[1] And, for my 10c, as several times suggested before, add: 4 – “Government is secular.”
That may remove Christ from what little involvement in Parliament that his name may still be dragged into, but it should at the same time knock te Ao o Maori, the Maori religious world view, on the head – even at the sacrifice of Jesus … again – sorry
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November 2, 2024 8:11am
- pdm
  
  ‘rivers of filth’
  
  Was a Michael Wood creation I think.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:37am
- OlderChas
  
  Yes I saw them ‘marching’ two days ago on the motorway. 6 rental vans in convoy, packed to the gunnels with luggage and a few passengers.
  
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  November 2, 2024 5:00pm
Toes on the nose

Provincial high school prizegiving last night… 40 odd going to Uni… Auck,Vic, Dunners.. etc. Then it dawned on me Massey=ZERO. Good job! Woke AF.
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November 2, 2024 8:12am
- Burtland
  
  the whole university system is woke – its the central brainwashing machine
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:41am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Couldn’t be anymore woke than Otago.
  
  Did you see [Mod – use proper names] the other day in a huge ponamu tie?
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:09pm
In Vino Veritas

Trump fires back at Mark Cuban for saying he has no strong women around him. “Mark Cuban is a weak man. And has no club head speed”. Boom! 💥 😂
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November 2, 2024 8:12am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The vulgarity and desperation appears to be coming from just one team, Trump is entitled to call the vulgarity’s out
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:11pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

It’s not just NZ that science is being augmented by “other ways of knowing”.

Trying to trace previous ownership of Masai jewellery, with limited information in its records, the Pitt-Rivers museum turned to a spiritual leader, who used a sacred gourd that contains stones that reveal patterns. This helped determine family ownership.

“We were really trying to put together our ways of knowing … It’s not easy to communicate completely different ways of how we know …”

Gotta get me one of them gourds!

http://www.bbc.com/future/article/20241031-how-maasai-people-were-reunited-with-precious-maasai-heirlooms
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November 2, 2024 8:16am
- kowtow
  
  Talking of bollocks and stones , our te media are doing their best over “sacred” stones returned to the North Island tribe who invaded and conquered most of the SI .
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:59am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is what happens when the Labour wonks get in power.
Looks like the idea will be to knock off the oldies before they turn 75.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/families-face-death-tax-of-70-per-cent-after-budget/ar-AA1tiIEi?
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November 2, 2024 8:17am
- Blackbob
  
  Got to find the money to keep those “refugees” coming in to vote labour, may as well make those filthy capitalists pay for it.
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:40am
Bridgenag

Friday Funnies: The Homestretch
Divide and conquer.

Some of the cartoons apply to us

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/friday-funnies-the-homestretch?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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November 2, 2024 8:18am
Chuck Bird

Lawson is doing well in qualifying. He is ahead of Hamilton.
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November 2, 2024 8:21am
- Paulus
  
  I think Lawson must be vey careful as it would appear his bosses chewed him up recently for his unacceptable behaviour, and from what is said his competetive drivers have not taken to him.
  He had better driver carefully for the next while or he will be out.
  Manners still maketh the man, even in F1.
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:59am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Like a cryptic crossword clue. 😀
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:04am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  8th place for the sprint qually, well ahead of other RB cars with the exception of Verstappen in 4th.
  
  I liked his response to a question about his recent aggressive behaviour on the track. Along the lines of, I’m not here to make enemies but I’m not here to make friends either. I am here to secure a seat in 2025 F1.
  
  I hope he clocks up another great result this weekend!
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:19am
igm

Take note those who are complicit in filling New Zealand with faux refugees.
https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360471792/welcome-home-polish-children-return-pahiatua
These lovely hard working honest people have brought nothing but prosperity and decency to this country, not vile customs and crime.
The only time they are ever publicised it is for achievements and philanthropy.
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November 2, 2024 8:29am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Never knew about them Good read, thanks.
  
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  November 2, 2024 11:09am
  - than
    
    My grandfather was one of those refugees. It was a very hard life he told me. They had to resort to eating grass and leaves in Siberia, before making it to Iran, and later NZ. The rest of the family followed suit as they did not want to be stuck in Soviet occupied Poland. He’s still going strong at 91.
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:17pm
Grumpy Silver Top

13 out of 13. I’m toast!
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November 2, 2024 8:41am
graham

Sigh. Apparently, the Herald believes this to be the most important story right now (8.40 am) as it has place of pride (pun not intended) on their website.

‘It was magical’: Trans man’s pregnancy and childbirth in Canterbury

Words fail me.
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November 2, 2024 8:41am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Real headline should have been: Woman with mental health issues pretending to be a man discovers the joy of becoming a mother.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:21am
- G152
  
  Got to be kidding.
  Its a converted female….
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:22am
- Notsofast
  
  The problem the community faces is legitimising the degradation of healthy bodies to treat mental illness.
  The effects of testosterone on female bodies are early menopause and death.
  The article should point this out.
  Trans gender medicine is unique in the medical field for doing harm, not good, and it should be illegal, in the same way class A drugs are.
  The Herald is a disgrace in this area.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:44am
- leoj
  
  “Magical” would be delivering the baby via his/her arse.
  
  Bring back mental homes.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:54am
- kowtow
  
  Today’sEmmerson cartoon is an attck on Mike King and his alcohol filled gumboot.
  
  Interesting how being seen as a beneficiary of this coalition’s spending can make you such a high profile target .
  
  Does anyone know if he targetted the gangs receiving so many millions from Ardern .
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:08am
- Media hater
  
  Make Asylums Great Again!
  
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  November 2, 2024 1:06pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  woman has sex and gets pregnant, even though she thinks she is a man….
  
  “its a miracle”
  
  media then publishes story for clickbait.
  
  people rageclick on it
  
  Win, journalist hits her quota of clicks for day, doesn’t get laid off this week!
  
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  November 2, 2024 2:00pm
  - graham
    
    I for one did NOT click on this story. It’s sickening click-bait and I refuse to read such garbage.
    
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    November 2, 2024 3:23pm
imalwaysright

Remembering when Trump asked Vice President Pence to reject the result of the 2020 election, is it possible for VP Harris to reject the upcoming result?
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November 2, 2024 8:57am
- Mike
  
  It wasn’t legal for Trump to ask, and Pence correctly followed the procedure. I think subsequent legislation might have made it clearer that the VP has no power to reject electoral votes.
  Trump’s supporters have other plans this time should the votes not fall their way. It all starts with the refusal, in advance, to accept that a Harris victory could be anything other than fraudulent.
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/republicans-donald-trump-polls-us-election-lawsuits
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:27am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Hate to break it to you Mike, but when Harris loses (which looks more likely each day), it’s pretty easy to predict the left reaction will make the Jan 6 protests look like a Christmas parade. Remember 2020? Antifa (the fascists) and BLM?
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:42am
    - Mike
      
      Yes, and only Trump can protect women (whether they like it or not) and get rid of the immigrants poisoning the blood of the country.
      
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      November 2, 2024 10:20am
      - Manu-Rau
        
        Hallelujah! Mike has seen the light!
        
        Yes, I agree that only Trump can achieve those things. Karamel certainly couldn’t.
        
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        November 2, 2024 11:30am
      - Media hater
        
        You should use the ‘sarc’ symbol Mike.
        
        I almost gave you an uptick by mistake, lol.
        
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        November 2, 2024 1:08pm
    - bennerg
      
      There were no guns taken to those protests, and the only person who died was a lady shot by security.
      
      Important to note when making a possible comparison in 2025.
      
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      November 2, 2024 11:15am
      - SoloView
        
        @ bennerg
        
        re “no guns taken to those protests”
        All the sources mentioned in this link have got it wrong?
        https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-there-armed-protesters-capitol-january-6-1715326
        
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        November 2, 2024 1:41pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        And the riot at capital building was driven substantially by people working for intelligence community (Ray Epps et al), we know this because they were never charged even though their actions were well documented and egregious – unlike many passive observers who have now spent years in jail.
        
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        November 2, 2024 2:04pm
      - RichardX
        
        “And the riot at capital building was driven substantially by people working for intelligence community (Ray Epps et al), we know this because they were never charged even though their actions were well documented and egregious – unlike many passive observers who have now spent years in jail”
        
        Just factually incorrect.
        You think you can be sentenced if you were “never charged”, let alone convicted?
        
        Ray Epps: Target of Capitol riot conspiracies sentenced to probation
        
        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67918709
        
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        November 2, 2024 3:21pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    At the time I got the impression that it was an obscure feature of the Constitution to guard against electoral fraud.
    
    Note also the Dems have recently hired a top election lawyer. Hopefully the courts don’t get involved.
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:57am
    - Mike
      
      Courts are already involved.
      
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      November 2, 2024 10:50am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Yes, yesterday they arrested a leftie that is an illegal after already voting, they say it is widespread, but the sad thing is the vulgar lefties vote can not be traced and will stand, thanks to Dems law change over electoral fraud early in this term
        
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        November 2, 2024 12:19pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    I think subsequent legislation might have made it clearer that the VP has no power to reject electoral votes.
    
    Correct.
    
    Here is the Electoral Count Reform Act 2022: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4573/text.
    
    Scroll down to section 109(b) Powers Of The President of Senate, subsection (2) Powers Explicitly Denied.
    
    Also, note that subsection (1) makes it clear that “the role of the President of the Senate while presiding over the joint meeting shall be limited to performing solely ministerial duties.”
    
    This is a good article, too, setting out how the ECRA would block attempts to overturn the election: https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/09/26/election-watchdogs-detail-new-timeline-for-finalizing-tallying-electoral-votes/.
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:58am
    - Manu-Rau
      
      Thanks for sharing, Steve. Yes, it was an interesting article.
      
      To save everyone else reading it, it essentially says that the Democrats can continue to cheat, and the Republicanss can’t do anything about it.
      
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      November 2, 2024 11:34am
- MCōs
  
  Back in 2000 GWBush beat VP Gore because of a court decision that could have gone either way.
  Although there was a lot of grumbling Gore accepted the result and followed correct procedure.
  Furthermore
  Clinton fronted up at Bush’s inauguration unlike the graceless Trump when Biden was inaugurated.
  
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  November 2, 2024 11:13am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    A lot of grumbling? The US Left, including any number of Democrats pollies, spent years saying the Bush was “selected not elected” and never gave a shit about how that might “undermine people’s confidence in the election system”.
    
    Here’s 24 minutes of Democrats denying election results
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:30pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      I think we will see a protracted and very tiring mess of back and forth litigation after this coming election.
      
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      November 2, 2024 9:20pm
      - Ghost
        
        I think think the potential is there, no matter who wins, for it to turn very messy. I’ve made sure to buy what I need from the states before the election
        
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        November 2, 2024 9:34pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Well, there was massive fraud in 2020 – latest example: Project veritas investigator visits addresses in battleground state Michigan where postal ballots were ostensibly sent from in 2020 where residents reveal that the people who sent them hadn’t lived there in decades or ever:
  https://x.com/Project_Veritas/status/1852427138210705528
  
  Clearly huge coordinated voting fraud activity like this wouldn’t be done unless it was making a difference electorally.
  
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  November 2, 2024 2:09pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    But But But……….[Mod – debate the topics, cut out the personal rubbish]
    
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    November 2, 2024 4:01pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    And another video from a few years ago of Steven Crowder sending an intern around to non-existent addresses for postal ballots in Arizona and Detroit.
    
    https://youtu.be/iNGf7XYtU2Q?t=1705
    
    What this indicates is that people in the US postal service are in on the fraud – collected up the impossible to deliver postal ballots and handing them over to the Democrat fraud machine to fill in and submit.
    
    It’s happening in every Swing State (at least) to ensure Democrats win. Most safely in large Democrat controlled metropolitan centers, and explains how Biden won while taking only 1 out of 19 bellwether countys.
    
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    November 2, 2024 6:37pm
G152

What ever happened to the crazies who claimed a planetX was going to crash into the Earth back in the 90s because a crazy claimed to be getting telepathic messages…
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November 2, 2024 9:25am
- Ghost
  
  They’re still there, it’s just been delayed now until 2029
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:27am
  - Mike
    
    Current home of the chief nutbars:
    http://poleshift.ning.com/
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:40am
- Mike
  
  Planet X was the astronomical term for the hypothetical planet beyond Neptune.
  The whackos prophesizing Planet X/Nbiru crashing into us in 2002? quickly moved on to the Mayan Apocalypse, etc.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:34am
- pdm
  
  The dates must be flexible because back in the 90’s I had a client who was convinced the World was going to end in 2004.
  
  A good solid, hard working family man who was resolute about that.
  
  I still run into him occasionally but the topic does not arise these days – I assume he has ‘seen the light’.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:45am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    When I was younger the world was going to end in 1984. They even made a movie about it
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:20pm
  - MCōs
    
    I worked with an American guy who believed any outrageous conspiracy theory that came along.
    He’d come to work with a new one every day that his wife, who was between jobs, found on the internet.
    He actually believed what he said, not like a car salesman.
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:20pm
Rusty

And who does Kamala Harris remind us of with her love bombing messages on the American people at the expense of sensible policies?

We all know who.
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November 2, 2024 9:32am
Steve Todd

Some good news for Kamala Harris among likely voters in the three northern battleground states. According to MaristPoll, she’s +2 over Trump in Pennsylvania, +3 in Michigan, and +2 in Wisconsin. The polls were conducted from October 27 through October 30.

See—
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/marist-pennsylvania-poll-u-s-presidential-contest-in-pennsylvania-november-2024/

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/marist-michigan-poll-u-s-presidential-contest-in-michigan-november-2024/

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/marist-wisconsin-poll-u-s-presidential-contest-in-wisconsin-november-2024/.
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November 2, 2024 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Nate Silver went into a tirade about how pollsters are lying to people about their results just days before the election.
  
  Silver, the founder of poll analytics site FiveThirtyEight, was speaking on his podcast when he was asked what his models tell him will happen next Tuesday.
  
  While he says it’s a 55% chance Donald Trump wins vs. 45% for Kamala Harris, what pollsters have been doing in the run-up to the election has left him unsettled. ‘
  
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14027247/Polling-Nostradamus-Nate-Silver-says-lying-election-forecasts.html
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:12am
  - Mike
    
    Also Nate Silver: “Anyone who is confident about this election is someone whose opinion you should discount.”
    
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    November 2, 2024 10:53am
- Manu-Rau
  
  Sorry, Marist are the second-most left-leaning pollsters, after Bloomberg. There’s no way that could have happened overnight.
  
  (Then again, crooked Democrat vite-counters miraculously ‘found’ hundreds if thousands of votes after they locked Republican scrutineers out of the tallying process……)
  
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  November 2, 2024 11:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Funny that, because another poll from the pollsters of polling had Trump either 2 points clear or equal in all battle ground states
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:22pm
- Philview
  
  There was an article this morning saying that the scale of early voting going Kamala’s way is ahead of the last 2 elections for Clinton and Biden.
  
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  November 2, 2024 2:09pm
  - Manu-Rau
    
    How do they know that? Are the votes already being counted?
    
    Or are the media lying (again)?
    
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    November 2, 2024 6:05pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Really? Because I heard them say for tgdd we first time ever that REP’s are out performing Dems in early voting
    
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    November 2, 2024 8:05pm
Ghost

Can’t blame then, I’d be leaving too if I was them

A growing number of wealthy Americans are making plans to leave the country in the run-up to Tuesday’s election, with many fearing political and social unrest regardless of who wins, according to immigration attorneys.

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November 2, 2024 9:37am
- Benedict Yu
  
  It will be entertaining.
  
  If Trump loses narrowly, it will be full on legal warfare.
  
  If Trump wins, the left will lose their minds, riots, etc.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:47am
  - David Garrett
    
    Bene: What evidence do you have for claiming that “the left will lose their minds riots etc.” If Harris loses? Thus far IIRC the only riots following US elections in recent times is when Trump lost in 2020. And for the record, I am entire ambivalent about the result of the election
    
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    November 2, 2024 11:43am
    - Manu-Rau
      
      You’re taking the piss, surely?
      
      What about 20 January 2017, when Madonna threatened to bomb the White House, and Antifa scum rioted in Washington and elsewhere.
      
      In fairness, the media barely mentioned the ‘mostly peaceful’ riots and Madonna was never prosecuted, so it is entirely possible that you didn’t know about it.
      
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      November 2, 2024 11:49am
    - Hollyfield
      
      Here’s two riots after Donald Trump was elected in 2016.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_riots
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Portland,_Oregon_riots
      
      And a list of protests ranging from peaceful to violent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump
      
      This includes: “Numerous petitions were started to prevent Trump from taking office…including…requesting that [electoral college representatives] in states that Trump won vote for Clinton instead.”
      
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      November 2, 2024 12:24pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I have seen interviews of Dens shouting out we will riot of Trump wins. The dems play the man remember?
      
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      November 2, 2024 12:26pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      Hundreds of rioters destroyed property, set fires during Trump’s 2017 inauguration, and charges were dropped
      
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      November 2, 2024 12:35pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What like when Bush won Florida? The left gave. Ever forgotten that, for their hatred of Floridian’s voters, they have never come close to winning Florida since
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:25pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    If Trump wins, the left will lose their minds, riots, etc.
    
    As soon as it is clear that she has lost, Kamala will graciously concede, thereby removing any reason for “the left” to lose their minds, riot, protest, whatever.
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:29pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Remove any reason? Riot, loot, and burn is what the left do when they lose their shit!
      Watch the evening of Nov 5th American time, then tell me the next day what happened to those reasons.
      
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      November 2, 2024 2:34pm
    - Local Miller
      
      I think some people need // to know you are being sarcastic ST
      
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      November 2, 2024 7:04pm
- Handyman
  
  There will be many Democrats who attended Ardern’s American lectures and believe she turned New Zealand into a left wing paradise. “No one rioted when I became Prime Minister”
  We do not need advice on how to turn New Zealand into California of the south. We are doing quite nicely ruining the country ourselves thank you.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:18am
  - alloytoo
    
    Yeah the riots occurred when she abused the position
    
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    November 2, 2024 10:43am
  - Mike
    
    Wow, you reckon we have a shot at making the NZ economy bigger than that of India or the UK?
    
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    November 2, 2024 10:55am
    - Handyman
      
      No, but it will look like California with the number of homeless and the crime ridden central cities.
      Enterprising, smart people and companies will depart for other states, leaving a small band of leftwing bloggers wondering why there is no one left to tax.
      
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      November 2, 2024 2:08pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        If NZ gets that bad, guess who might be importing cheap one person tents?
        Make hay while the sun shines!
        
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        November 2, 2024 2:42pm
      - goNZ1
        
        If anyone is not able to visit San Francisco, the Democrat run cess pit, just visit Courtney place or Manners mall in Wellie, to get an idea of what happens when the Green socialists infiltrate government
        
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        November 2, 2024 3:02pm
      - Mike
        
        I hate to disappoint you, but there hasn’t been a Manners Mall for many years.
        
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        November 2, 2024 6:23pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Did Ardern in her lectures speak about quitting and abandoning NZ when the shit hit the fan and her lies caught up with her?
    Thought not. She is lying again, lie by omission.
    
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    November 2, 2024 11:26am
  - MCōs
    
    Nobody ever riots when governments change here
    The last riot I can recall was on Queen St after a concert by Dave Dobbyn of all people!
    
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    November 2, 2024 11:27am
    - rouppe
      
      I remember one in Hamilton in 1981…
      
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      November 2, 2024 12:26pm
    - Mike
      
      How about the scum the police had to clear away in Wellington in March 2022?
      
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      November 2, 2024 2:11pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Is scum a form of garbage?
        
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        November 2, 2024 2:25pm
  - Manu-Rau
    
    Did she highlight the importance of appointing corrupt officials to head national police, justice and security agencies, to hold the plebs in place while she amd her fellow travellers breached the BOR and broke the law?
    
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    November 2, 2024 11:54am
  - rouppe
    
    Do you notice that many of the voices on the radio complaining about equity and fairness have a North American twang?
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:25pm
Benedict Yu

Midwives stopped using the term “mother” a couple of years ago.

“… using the word “woman” also excluded people who give birth and make use of midwifery services, but do not identify as women.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/130398403/midwifery-council-proposes-dropping-the-words-mother-and-woman-from-its-guidelines

A person giving birth in New Zealand is a “birthing person”.

At least a trans man is a woman who can feed a baby.

In the UK, trans women, who are actually men, are injected with hormones so they can lactate, increasing inclusiveness in the feeding process.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/when-trans-rights-trump-babies-rights/

Then of course there is the trend to parents having not babies but “theybies”.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/theybies-parenting-trend-children-gender-neutral-12411332.html.

Parents, especially trans parents, refuse to raise a child as a boy or a girl. They treat the baby as gender neutral until the child chooses a gender later in life.

I could go on, but that is enough crazy for this morning. 🤯
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November 2, 2024 9:43am
- John Loveridge
  
  If I was to state that all this is a harbinger of the collapse of Western civilization, many would immediately accuse me of being hysterical. But history, which endlessly repeats, bears me out.
  
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  November 2, 2024 9:55am
- Burtland
  
  these kids are going to need special schools – the schoolyard can be brutal
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:05am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    Sorry, downticked by mistake.
    
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    November 2, 2024 11:55am
- BananaLlama
  
  Never heard a midwife use the term birthing person before, heard them refuse to give a Karakia though and still retain their practicing license.
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:52pm
Scooter

There’s an article in the Herald asking if Lotto wins should be taxed (behind a paywall). With all the talk of CGT etc why aren’t lottery wins taxed. And apparently it’s easier to name the countries that do tax lottery winnings than those that don’t. I would be interested to hear why taxing isn’t a good thing in NZ?

Those that tax: United States, Brazil, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Israel, Switzerland, Poland, the Netherlands, Slovenia and Croatia.
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November 2, 2024 9:44am
- Eastlander
  
  Because the notion is low and miserly. Let the government buy its own lottery ticket if it wants a bite.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:08am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  I really don’t care but would point out that the lottery is a state monopoly in NZ. They choose the % of sales that go back into winnings. So it already a tax that the non-winning ticket buyers are contributing to of their own freewill. Taxing the winnings is just lowering the % of sales the government is giving back. I would suggest that it would be less political damage to just tweak (lower) the amount of winnings that they will give back than create a winners tax.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:22am
- Mike
  
  Lotto, like most forms of gambling, is already an effective transfer of wealth from poorer communities to richer ones in the guise of using profits to sustain worthy projects.
  Lotto wins would be easy to tax, but at the expense of making the Powerball jackpots a little less alluring. So, the question would be whether a tax would affect sales significantly enough to affect the largesse for sports, arts, etc., bearing in mind that the additional tax revenue would only go into the general pool of money wasted on welfare, health and education.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:28am
- thirteenstars
  
  Because it wasn’t earned, so it’s not income, and because it’s certainly not a capital gain. According to your logic we should also tax winnings from pokies and roulette tables.
  
  Just because others do something is no reason for us to do it.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:30am
  - Colville
    
    You must have a strange definition of earned. Someone did a thing that caused them to get money. How is that not earned?
    
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    November 2, 2024 10:49am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Oh, cut it out.
      
      My son gives me a lottery ticket for my birthday and I win big. According to you I earned that win.
      
      Get real.
      
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      November 2, 2024 11:58am
      - Geri Sjovik
        
        If every lotto ticket is purchased from wages and income, it’s already been taxed, yes?
        
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        November 2, 2024 12:33pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @Geri – YES!!
        
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        November 2, 2024 2:56pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Tax the winnings, deduct the losses, that way most gamblers would get a handy refund.
    
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    November 2, 2024 11:39am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      “Oh no, we don’t do Tax refunds on losses.”
      IRD.
      
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      November 2, 2024 2:58pm
  - rouppe
    
    Socialists would argue that any profits made on a house sale is “unearned” but they still want a tax on that…
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:21pm
- Zero Kindness
  
  I consider Lotto is already effectively taxed in that the returns to punters via prizes are not 100%. The “tax” is then distributed to approved organisations for the good of the community. Call it a donation if you wish. Taxation of winnings will only reduce the returns and therefore decrease participation.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:40am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Exactly, same as TAB money, you get a 100% vote, only 75 cents is paid
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:31pm
- alloytoo
  
  Because the notion that tax is fundamental good and that we should have every type is economically flawed.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:45am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The dollars used to purchase Lotto tickets have already been taxed.
  Does the purchase price of a ticket include GST?
  
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  November 2, 2024 11:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Exactly, but media for some reason are whipping this up, let’s see if the nasty swine Hipkins announces a policy soon to tax all gambling wins
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:32pm
- MCōs
  
  Prize winning are taxed in America and we hear about people who lose a big percentage of some ginormous lottery win.
  What you don’t hear is that if someone wins a car, for example, they have to pay tax on the value of the car, which is money they may not have.
  
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  November 2, 2024 11:36am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, you win $2 billion but don’t get $2billion back. Their winnings are paid differently, you can tak a lump some, and you will only get $800 mill or something like that, if you take an annual pay out for life it is a fraction of your win, if you are older I guess lump sum will always be asked for, young people possibly the opposite. can you guarantee 50 years later you won’t be shafted? I doubt it
    
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    November 2, 2024 12:37pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The dollar for lotto is taxed when you spend your dollar, just like a dollar at the TAB is taxed at the spend, I bet lefties think gambling is not taxed at all
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:30pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Lotto is state run and therefore is effectively voluntary taxation.
  
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  November 2, 2024 1:07pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No. Tax by stealth!
    
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    November 2, 2024 3:08pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not voluntary, it’s guaranteed at purchase
    
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    November 2, 2024 8:10pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Lotto is already a tax – on the mostly poor and stupid punters who play it.
  
  There are other forms of gambling with far smaller house margins and far higher payout than the miserly 50% ish of Lotto.
  
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  November 2, 2024 2:21pm
- An Old Kiwi
  
  Because if gambling income is taxable income then gambling losses (which are much greater, as The house always wins), would be an allowable deductible expense.
  
  Best to leave all gambling income & losses out of the tax system.
  
  (Anyway, any gambling income will incur GST when spent.)
  
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  November 2, 2024 3:16pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not true, Racing does not incur GST
    
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    November 2, 2024 8:11pm
- Local Miller
  
  Lotto is already a voluntary tax system.
  
  Edit: Sorry Nothing Left, didn’t see your post.
  
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  November 2, 2024 7:09pm
Steve Todd

Allan Lichtman is predicting (as at Thursday night) Kamala will win. He suggests it could be by 302–236. His prediction is based on his analysis of the situation and is independent of his Keys.

The splurge says—

“Allan Lichtman takes a look at the electoral college map for the 2024 presidential election between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. He makes his analysis on which states will go blue or red in the count to 270.

“Due note that this is not a prediction based on The Keys to the White House or any other official, scientific system. It’s just Allan’s gut. LOL”

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYKflo-J18. [1 hr 10 mins]
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November 2, 2024 10:46am
- Mike
  
  The Keys to the White House is not a ‘scientific system’. The predictive power of social ‘science’ is virtually nil.
  
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  November 2, 2024 10:57am
- Local Miller
  
  We really need more than just up and down ticks. Something that says “I like that you have posted this, but the content is bat guano crazy. As is Allan’s prediction.
  
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  November 2, 2024 7:13pm
Swifty

Kamala has nothing on her sleazy predecessor:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3wJMO7cmhHo

Just watching him gives me the chills.
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November 2, 2024 10:55am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Was he baby biting? 😊
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:38pm
  - Mike
    
    Or just partying out with Jeffrey Epstein.
    
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    November 2, 2024 2:13pm
Gertie

Bambi left to starve. Yes that should be the national headlines.
DOC and the regional council are going ahead with a massive aerial 1080 drop in a weeks time. 85000 hectares of Pureora Forest and some attached pine forests. There is so much food out there for possums and rats now with spring having sprung I am envisioning it being a great waste of money.
However if the deer decide to partake in the odd pellet bait which is likely, there will be hundreds or possibly thousands of newborn fawns left to die of starvation. Timing is everything. It is now timed to get the hinds just as they are fawning. Good god we are a mongrel bunch of humans.
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November 2, 2024 11:15am
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Could it be that just maybe DOC wants fewer deer at Pureora? (as well as fewer rats, stoats and possums). I’ve been there twice this year, and some stands are pretty eaten out.
  
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  November 3, 2024 6:31pm
MCōs

Yesterday an urgent ticker flashed across my screen that smoke could be seen coming from the crater on Mt Wellington
Great!
A volcano in the middle of Auckland to take attention away from the damn American election!
Turned out it was a grass fire that was put out an hour later.
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November 2, 2024 11:44am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wasn’t Marc Ellis again was it?
  He did the Rangitoto one. All of the ‘spares’ went into panic mode.
  OMG OMG, Auckland is blowing up again after 600 years.
  
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  November 2, 2024 3:16pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Jack Smith may be getting nervous.
“Fired within 2 seconds.” He knows Trump keeps his promises.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/they-may-need-lawyers-jack-smith-s-office-reportedly-bracing-for-trump-s-retribution/ar-AA1tm2jS?
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November 2, 2024 12:03pm
- NothingLeft
  
  meh, all these people who have made public reputations for themselves ‘getting Trump” will find ready and highly paid homes for themselves in Left wing anti-Trump NGOs post election.
  
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  November 2, 2024 2:23pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Starting to think that the Harris/Trump polls don’t matter.
What matters is how much cheating the Democrats can get away with. It is happening now with illegals not even being removed from the rolls. No word about voting machines being triple checked. Illegal ballot drops not being reported.
The whole system need overhauling. The crooks prosecuted and jailed.
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November 2, 2024 12:24pm
- Hollyfield
  
  I watched a podcast of someone who attended a Democrat rally and said he had to show ID in three different places before he was allowed entry. He talked about the hypocrisy of Democrats describing voter ID as “racist” because black people can’t get ID or don’t know how to get ID or are too poor to afford ID, but at the same time requiring ID to enter their events.
  
  I guess ID is only racist when it’s to prevent people voting illegally.
  
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  November 2, 2024 12:46pm
Steve Todd

The Mooch gives his perspective on the current state of play. As always, he’s very informative, e.g., you can’t put a bet on for Kamala in London.

Unsurprisingly, he thinks Kamala is going to win.

The splurge says—

“MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Anthony Scaramucci on what he’s been seeing in Swing States during his work with VP Harris and what he expects to see in the election between Harris and Trump.”

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrryodmBEQs [18:55]
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November 2, 2024 1:01pm
- Steve Todd
  
  Here is Anthony Scaramucci’s case against Trump in Fortune magazine, in which he sets out why Kamala would be better for America than him:
  https://fortune.com/2024/10/31/anthony-scaramucci-case-against-trump-economy-elections-politics/.
  
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  November 2, 2024 1:48pm
- Inandout
  
  ST, Soper also reckons KH will win, but he adds a rider that it may be wishful thinking. His wife humourously commented on ZB that Barry should be careful as he already has had one heart attack.
  
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  November 2, 2024 3:37pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    Thank you for that, Inny. I’m annoyed now that I missed Barry Soper yesterday.
    
    I would never say that Kamala is going to win, or even that I think she’ll win, because I simply don’t know how it’s all going to play out. The race really does remain too close to call: literally, a toss-up. I can say, though, that I am increasingly hopeful that she will prevail, but that I won’t be surprised if she doesn’t.
    
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    November 2, 2024 4:37pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Soper shows high levels of TDS.
    
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    November 2, 2024 6:56pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Besides the polls Trump says 97% chance of a win.
I think it’s time the pollsters and the media stop the nonsense.
I said in 2021 that he would win 2024.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-claims-he-has-97-percent-chance-of-winning-election-as-polls-tip-harris/ar-AA1tlYIw?
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November 2, 2024 1:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Rocketman. No it’s not Kimmy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGSe9XljtvE
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November 2, 2024 1:48pm
- Inandout
  
  SO, that is what I admire in your average couldn’t give a fat rat’s arse Yank. Ingenuity.
  
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  November 2, 2024 3:29pm
goNZ1

Meanwhile I see France are enjoying the fruits of Diversity and Inclusion…

“France has reached a “tipping point” on drug-related violence, the country’s hardline interior minister warned on Friday, after hundreds of people took part in a massive shoot-out.”

Per Stuffft today
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November 2, 2024 3:09pm
Steve Todd

Further to my post yesterday, in which I said I hoped to see the emergence of what I call the “shy-Harris” voter at this election, being primarily “Republican-leaning women who are appalled by the effects of the Supreme Court’s ‘Dobbs’ [abortion] ruling”, but who could also be “anyone who would not normally vote Democrat but who simply cannot countenance another Trump presidency”, here, https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/general_debate_01_november_2024.html/comment-page-1#comment-3638085, I see the Harris campaign are now targeting such women.

Check out this clip from CNN in which Laura Coates talks to Omarosa Manigault Newman, a former Apprentice contestant and Trump White House adviser, about Trump’s pledge to protect women ‘whether they like it or not’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t159jnqbQfU [7:36].

From 5:46 in, they discuss an ad released by a progressive evangelical group, Vote Common Good, which aims to mobilise women voters who live in pro-Trump households to vote for Kamala. The 18-second ad is from 6:02 to 6:20. Hilariously, Jesse Watters (who has said he would divorce his (second) wife — with whom he cheated on his first wife — if she voted for Harris) and others are up in arms over it.

I hope the ad is successful in its aim.
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November 2, 2024 4:12pm
kiwi_chileno

Javier Milei wields the chainsaw again.

Milei has sacked his Foreign Minister after Argentina voted for a UN resolution condemning the US economic embargo on Cuba (NZ also voted in favour). It had been expected that Argentina would vote against the resolution, with the US and Israel. (In May, Argentina voted against a resolution requesting the Security Council to admit ‘Palestine’ as a full UN member state – NZ voted in favour).

Milei also vowed to purge the Foreign Ministry. The Presidential statement said that Argentina “categorically opposes the Cuban dictatorship and will remain firm in promoting a foreign policy that condemns all regimes that perpetuate the violation of human rights and individual freedoms.” In addition, there will be “an audit of the career staff of the Foreign Ministry, with the aim of identifying the promoters of agendas that are enemies of freedom.”
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November 2, 2024 4:31pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360470841/bed-company-centre-glass-fibre-concerns-fails
When will people wake up to the fact that much of the stuff we buy from China is RUBBISH ?
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November 2, 2024 4:44pm
Steve Todd

“Harris’ New Endorsement Is Set To TRIGGER The Right”

Just in, 30 minutes ago. The Young Turks discuss Trump’s racism.

The splurge says—

“NBA champion LeBron James has endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris. Cenk Uygur, Ben Gleib and Mark Thompson discuss on The Young Turks.”

“For LeBron James, ‘the choice is clear’ about who to vote for president. On Thursday, the Los Angeles Lakers player officially endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as he shared a video compilation of the hate and racism spread by former President Donald Trump and his campaign.

“‘What are we even talking about here?’ James captioned alongside the clip, which included headlines of David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan leader, supporting Trump, along with the former president’s racist rhetoric toward migrants and the Black community.”

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qO6dBEaeEQ [12:28].
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November 2, 2024 5:08pm
- Swifty
  
  You’ve convinced me Steve!
  
  I’ll be sure to cast my vote for Queen Kamala! 😄
  
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  November 2, 2024 6:45pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    You know me, Swifty. Just injecting some balance into the conversation.
    
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    November 2, 2024 9:34pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  And the psychotic killers who tried to assassinate Trump? Who did they support?
  
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  November 2, 2024 7:36pm
- Ghost
  
  This says it better
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOPygVcaVE
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:01pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Lebron James, hagahahahahahahaha
  
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  November 2, 2024 8:14pm
Swifty

Pathetic sentences:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/meth-addiction-drove-lilly-quigley-to-break-into-rifle-club-try-sell-guns/SSHIPUIGUBCBRPNUDLRSBCQNM4/

I’ve seen people with a bit of pot get longer stretches.

Until we make sentences for gun crimes meaningful, we’re just pissing around the edges.
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November 2, 2024 7:04pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/driving-me-nuts-manurewa-mum-on-maternity-leave-frustrated-at-lack-of-action-over-dirt-bikers/6DXSQXFXH5B5FP7SFOWWN5ZDOA/

Mark Mitchell talks a lot of talk, but, this shows he is somewhat full of hot air.

Police have made a conscious decision not to enforce the law against predicable and persistent offenders. This is especially egregious given the huge problem with dirt bikers in recent years.

What are people supposed to do when police are not doing their job?
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November 2, 2024 7:27pm
- Ghost
  
  What do you expect the police to do? Sit there all day and wait for the dirt bike rider to show up? There is zero ways to identify them, not easy for police to track them down. Would be better if the council gave them a place to go to ride their bikes. Down here they all go to the river.
  
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  November 2, 2024 7:38pm
Fender

these are copy cat dirt bike riders as seen on tiktok etc, they have no interest in dirt, its all show off, tricks stunts and being in your face and noticed,the dirt bikes are just light, powerful, loud and easy to ride,police would not have to travel to find them becaue they always ride in public and in groups, thats the whole point, its basically a gang
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