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peterwn

Seems Facebook does not care less about people being ripped off by scam advertisments. Recently I lodged complaints via Facebook’s complaints link concerning Harvey Norman allegedly offering computers, phones, etc for $3. Also the one with Chris Luxon allegedly supporting a phony investment deal. I got a response back saying Facebook is not taking the advertisements down (it did not state which ad was referred to).
Now a little old lady lost $224K through a fake ‘Chris Luxon’ ad (admittedly the one she saw could have been on a ‘channel’ other than Facebook). Now Facebook should be exercising social responsibility in such matters. Unfortunately the logistics of trying to sue Facebook for the $224K is just too difficult so Facebook etc just flips the bird to genuine complaints.
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October 21, 2024 8:00am
- artemisia
  
  Scammers have been successfully scamming since time immemorial. Even before the interweb was a thing, hard to believe I know! Even disregarding commonsense and ability to comprehend, there are more checks, balances and warnings now than there have ever been.
  
  Can’t save everyone.
  
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  October 21, 2024 8:11am
  - David Garrett
    
    art: Excluding the elderly – many of whom have little understanding of online stuff, and may also be somewhat befuddled by age – I think the old maxim “there is no cure for stupid” often applies here.
    
    Literally every couple of days I receive scam emails which are clearly bullshit – very dodgy email addresses supposedly from a bank for example, or poor English usage are two of the obvious pointers. As is the “you have an undelivered parcel” scam. Recently I have been getting messages supposedly from Spotify to “fix up” my account – an account I don’t have.
    
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    October 21, 2024 9:13am
    - pdm
      
      DG – not to mention bank accounts that are `out of order’ and require a prompt payment. Banks we have never had accounts with.
      
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      October 21, 2024 9:44am
    - Michael Johnston
      
      Scammers who prey on old people disgust me. I occasionally get a call from scammers claiming to be Microsoft and saying they need to get access to my computer to fix a security issue. I consider it worth the investment of time to string them along, pretending to be elderly and not au fait with technology. I make them repeat every instruction five times, and mess them around until their tempers start to fray. At that point I tell them that I know they are criminals and that I consider them human garbage, before abruptly ending the call.
      
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      October 21, 2024 9:46am
      - David Garrett
        
        MJ: Yes…i have also had some sport with Indian scammers who can barely speak English yet have nice reassuring names like Bruce…
        
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        October 21, 2024 10:23am
      - pdm
        
        MJ – we use a whistle for those crooks.
        
        Probably pushing our luck to say we haven’t had such a call for months.
        
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        October 21, 2024 10:29am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Hubby tried this stringing the scammers along…and I told him to stop it as the phone scammers are practising/perfecting their English pronunciation with you.
        
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        October 21, 2024 10:53am
      - Ghost
        
        I once asked an Indian scammer if they considered the karma they would get for stealing from people. Guy swore his head off at me and hung up
        
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        October 21, 2024 11:12am
- sherp
  
  I just find it weird that these ads are designed for people in NZ yet NZ govt doesn’t collect any ad revenue from ads targeted towards NZ ip addresses…. but the government is still considering taxing such companies for sharing news articles…. how about tax them for advertising in NZ then NZ advertising laws also apply.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:22am
- Ghost
  
  If a little old lady gave someone $224k, then she was an idiot
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/531353/pensioner-loses-224k-after-being-tricked-by-ai-deepfake-christopher-luxon-cryptocurrency-investment-scam
  
  Sorry, but she is an idiot and shouldn’t have access to her bank accounts.
  
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  October 21, 2024 10:28am
  - peterwn
    
    It is not as simple as that. Who decides whether someone should be denied access to their bank accounts. And in early stages of dementia relatives or others may not notice that there is an issue so they can persuade the person to take precautions such as rearranging finances to minimise problems. And even some professionals can be pretty useless.
    There was a recent case where a second wife got her elderly husband (who was losing mental capacity) to make a new will in her favour which cut out his children from his first marriage. An accountant prepared the well and the husband was taken to the office to sign it. Frankly the accountant should have smelt a rat and refused to allow the husband to execute it. Fortunately the children knew something was not right when dad died and successfully challenged the will which meant his previous will took effect.
    So there are perils all over the place.
    
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    October 21, 2024 11:00am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Inflammatory words from Auckland University medical activists.

“ It’s important to note that it’s not ethnicity itself that leads to poor health. It’s because racism and marginalisation are so strongly distributed along ethnic lines in New Zealand, which makes ethnicity such a strong predictor of need.”

Loring points out the statistics are there no matter where we look – lower Māori life expectancy, higher health need, lower access to services, lower immunisation and poorer health outcomes.

“For example, ethnicity is the strongest marker of avoidable death, even after adjusting for deprivation or rurality. And if we look at those people living in high deprivation areas, Māori will have poorer outcomes than non-Māori.

“People are not turning up to health services with equal levels of need. And they’re not being treated equally. And they’re certainly not receiving equal outcomes, based on ethnicity.”

I have no doubt that these academics are correct in their statistics, but they are completely incorrect in attributing the blame to racism (and I really resent being called a racist).

Let’s face it. As a group, Maoris make poorer decisions than other New Zealanders. They are over represented in car crashes late at night, in gang violence & other bad outcomes from dumb behaviour. They have larger families that they cannot afford to feed and house adequately. They smoke more than others. As these academic activists themselves acknowledge, they don’t turn up to health appointments, don’t get immunised etc.

The reality, as a group, is that they do it to themselves.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/531368/government-s-colourblind-directive-an-attack-on-science-and-public-health-advice-expert
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October 21, 2024 8:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Once upon a time, an analysis would have been conducted along socio-economic lines…and these researchers would have discovered that folks living in the poorer areas of a town often suffered poor housing, poor transport options, lousy education, poor health options, frequent exposure to theft and violence…..and surprise, surprise, comprised pakeha, polynesians, asians, new migrants, as well as maori .
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:35am
  - Burtland
    
    yeah but analysis is racist //
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:02am
- Jack5
  
  Ethnicity affects some health conditions. Both from genetic predisposition to some diseases, and from ethnic diet and habits like smoking.
  
  White New Zealanders suffer more from skin cancer. This is because of their white skins and the country’s sunshine. As Maori become paler from intermarriage they will catch up.
  
  In food, it can take centuries to develop group lactose tolerance for cow milk. Also, I understand that a higher incidence of gout among Maori is probably because they eat more shellfish.
  
  Also Maori and ethnic Pacific Islanders smoke more than White and Asian New Zealanders. But the most obvious effect is overweight from poor transition to European food.
  
  Even Asians can have weight problems when they move to Western countries (link below).
  
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10108164/
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:52am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  An academic should understand that correlation is not the same as causation.
  
  But the left is committed to the idea that a person’s previous poor choices should in no way cause us to hold them responsible for their present situation. Their entire ideology depends on it.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:55am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Tory Whanau’s plan to destroy Wellington nightlife.

O, the irony!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350447928/looming-roadworks-could-destroy-wellington-hotspot-hospo-bosses-say
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October 21, 2024 8:05am
- Swifty
  
  Tory had a lovely dinner out last night at the banquet celebrating the 75th anniversary of the Seyip Association in Wellington.
  
  Harry Tam was there too!
  
  A lovely feed had by all.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:50am
cmm

A credible looking leak of Israeli plans by somebody in the US Federal government.

Hmmm, Israel must surely be learning by now that USA is collapsing and is a security nightmare.

Perhaps they’re using this as a way to smoke out the leaks or feed false info.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360457814/israels-plan-launch-air-attack-iran-leaked
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October 21, 2024 8:06am
- All_on_Red
  
  Obama and then Biden lurve the Iranians. They have many on their staff. Many Iranians are also actively lobbying the Whitehouse.
  And despite the below article, there still are.
  https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/iran-spy-ring-robert-malley-lee-smith
  
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  October 21, 2024 8:26am
- john1234
  
  How do we know the leak came from the US govt? That intel is shared with 5Eyes so could have come from any of USA, Canada, UK, Australia and NZ?
  
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  October 21, 2024 8:58am
- mandk
  
  Could this be a deception by the Israelis to throw the Iranians off the scent?
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:07am
Bridgenag

Sky Australia

Sky News host Erin Molan said a group of “trainees and reservists” took out Hamas’ leader Yahya Sinwar.

“He died as he lived, a coward – cowering in the shadows, hiding in buildings bombed off the back of his terror raid,” Ms Molan said. …

https://youtu.be/NaZkEkFwmEY?si=NAZtgdv3kvnLQnyr
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October 21, 2024 8:06am
- cmm
  
  I don’t believe for a moment they would be sending trainees on a mission like this.
  Reservists, yes. Reservists are regularly called up and are fully functional soldiers.
  
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  October 21, 2024 8:29am
  - Dr John
    
    Erin’s father was Australian Army Major General Jim Molan.
    Erin grew up in a military environment. If she says that ‘trainees’ were involved, then I believe her.
    
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    October 21, 2024 9:40am
    - gravedodger
      
      agree Dr I believe it was more chance than planned the trip to virgin islands was arranged for Sinwar
      
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      October 21, 2024 10:30am
  - rockape
    
    I understand they were taken out by the unit that trains, not the trainees. Most training units have a front line war roll. That includes the one I commanded.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:29am
Bridgenag

Sunday Strip: Reason Versus Treason
“The government would never do that!”

Complicity Theorist
(noun) A person who accepts the political narrative of the day
unquestionably;
consumes mainstream media like it was 1980; and is prone to submissiveness, outbursts of irrational fear, and public shaming of
free-thinkers.

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/sunday-strip-reason-versus-treason?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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October 21, 2024 8:08am
Scott

My opinion of the 2020 presidential election was there was a lot of cheating, by democrats, on an industrial scale. No way did Biden, hiding in the basement, get 81 million votes.

Now the same playbook is being run in 2024.
Ballots, which should be treated like money, are already being left unsecured.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/10/here-we-go-again-7.php

Boxes of ballots, out in the open, left unattended.
And despite the protestations of some commenters on this blog, the drive to allow illegal aliens to vote is well underway. The Dept of justice is doing its best in Florida to get illegal aliens voting. Why? It’s the very reason Joe Biden opened up the border. Millions and millions of illegal aliens who they know would vote democrat if they are allowed to vote.

“Florida authorities on Oct. 16 sued the U.S. government, alleging that U.S. officials are illegally refusing to cooperate with Florida’s effort to remove noncitizens from its voter rolls.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/10/doj-goes-to-bat-for-illegal-voting.php

Let’s face it. The democrats cheated in 2020 and are determined to cheat again. They don’t care. They just want the power. Nothing else matters to them.
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October 21, 2024 8:09am
Matt Long

US Customs and Border Control bring the government work ethic and efficiency to Hurricane Relief.
I believe this is a promotional video, and not satire.
https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1847397699609297309
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October 21, 2024 8:14am
- Conservatarian
  
  14 federal employees to move a small log onto a pile of sticks and other logs (in the surrounds of a pleasant-looking suburban neighbourhood).
  
  Sounds about right.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:14am
Matt Long

Kamala shares with Jacinda unverified accounts of abusive behaviour, and verified accounts of high staff turnover.
https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1847346010357714957
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October 21, 2024 8:18am
- cmm
  
  I don’t believe it.
  
  I don’t think Kamala could keep anything up for 30 minutes other than waffling about being middle class.
  
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  October 21, 2024 8:24am
Yvette

Kotahitanga – Unity?
South Island iwi Ngāi Tahu is preparing to to host this year’s third hui-ā-motu (national hui), Te Pūnuiotoka, at Tuahiwi Marae, not far from Christchurch, on October 22.
Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu kaiwhakahaere Justin Tipa said the hui would continue the conversation around kotahitanga (unity) and rangatiratanga (sovereignty), “indigenous economics“ and “tribal institution-building“.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/te-ao-maori/350438761/ngai-tahu-prepares-host-third-national-hui-maori-unity.

While there is a drive, started by the late Maori King, to unify Maori as a force (for what?), are Maori still divided by those of ancestors who signed the Treaty and those who didn’t? Those who rejected ceding sovereignty and those who didn’t. Or, as the Waitangi Tribunal states, none did. And if that is the case, Maori may be united as one, but still for what?
Will the new Maori Queen make a statement at the Hui, informing us of their unity and to what purpose that is exactly?

In his closing address at the Hui ā Motu at Tūrangawaewae in January, the late Kiingi Tuheitia said, “Let the four winds speak”, and “Ngāi Tahu, we must come to you.” Ngāi Tahu responded by announcing our hui, Te Pūnuiotoka.
We are inviting iwi and hapū from around the motu to gather at Tuahiwi Marae on 22 October 2024.
Tomorrow …
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October 21, 2024 8:19am
- pdm
  
  Yvette – there should not be many there – it is a work day.
  
  Oh well another sicky I guess because one must be seen to attend.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:47am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Shell Lane (The Terrace) bike rack report:

At 8.20am, one lonely bike.

A calm, coolish, still morning in the Capital, ideal of cycling.
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October 21, 2024 8:21am
- David Garrett
  
  Nevermind: Please keep on with these reports! Sadly none of the “cycle lobbyists” will take a blind bit of notice.
  
  Many here will be surprised that when I worked in Wellington many years ago I cycled to work most days – and we lived in Ngaio which is at the top of a bloody big hill.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:20am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Likewise DG. The drop down the valley to the main road was a blast- climbing it again each night less so!
    
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    October 21, 2024 9:54am
Matt Long

The woman who made a young teen eat her faeces and beat him with a hammer proudly displays the Rainbow anti bullying T-shirt. I surprised she doesn’t wear the rape scarf as well.
https://x.com/2ETEKA/status/1847922830354026625
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October 21, 2024 8:23am
- David Garrett
  
  Matt: That sorry excuse for a human being ought to have got at least 10 years.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:21am
  - gravedodger
    
    Very fortunate David it walked on two legs, four and would not have seen the sunrise tomorrow.
    
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    October 21, 2024 9:46am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But, but, but… she’s a solo mum of 5 kids…..
    
    I find it hard to believe that she wasn’t already in the “wrap-around” care of Oranga Tamaraki and offshoots.
    
    She was sentenced to 12 months of intensive supervision and 60 hours of community work, including an order to undergo an anger management programme, attend counselling, parenting, and tikanga courses.
    
    Earlier on Friday, the hearing was stood down briefly when the judge noticed the woman’s young daughter sitting in the public gallery by herself.
    
    Arrangements were made for her care outside the courtroom so the hearing could continue.
    
    “I’m a solo mother and there’s no one to care for her,” Wright told the court.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/woman-who-called-police-officer-pig-threatened-to-shoot-her-in-face-says-no-harm-intended/U3AZLLJGOBD4HL67REIIGOVJ3A/
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:30am
Gravelroad

More “stories” on $tuff today about Trump.
They don’t like Trump over on $tuff – ok, fair enough.
But they just can’t stop talking about him.
Not seeing many articles about Ms Harris, though.
Why would that be?
Nothing to report?
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October 21, 2024 8:31am
- kevn
  
  Gravel… Appears to be a global msm narrative.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:07am
- My-Gumboot
  
  Yeah, I think it because Stuffed have such wide readership, subscriptions and influence in the USA. Their sharp reporting and analysis of Trumps campaign could very well swing the elections.
  Tui
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:50am
Tom Barker

That Andrew Bayly, eh? What a dag. If only other Ministers were prepared to let the voters know exactly what they think of them
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October 21, 2024 8:47am
- Dr John
  
  The MSM went all excited about what Andrew Bayly said to the ‘looser’.
  But I can’t find any information on what the ‘looser’ first said to Andrew to cause such a response.
  Surely the report can’t be biased?
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:45am
- pdm
  
  TB – is it correct that the complainant swore at Bayly almost as soon as he entered the premises?
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Well seeing he went straight to opposition parties then probably, sounds like a filthy smear campaign organised by Labour, this is their filthy MO
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:06am
    - Ghost
      
      Only he didn’t. He complained to andrew first. It’s great the right supporters don’t hold their ministers to account as they did the left.
      
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      October 21, 2024 10:13am
  - Ghost
    
    That’s been reported nowhere, a blog made it up last week with zero evidence. Andrew took responsibility admitted he was trying to be light hearted.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:12am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    None of us know and we should know.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:21am
Matt Long

Complains that the whole world tried to prevent Israel entering Rafah, where Sinwar was executed, hostages were help and huge weapons smuggling tunnels were discovered.
Then supports Kamala Harris, the dissonance is huge.
https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1847632176239567354
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October 21, 2024 9:02am
Quail

Does anyone here share my concern at Costers use of the defence force and its technology to apprehend a NZ family hiding in the bush?
To me it is potentially the start of an abuse of the power pf the state.
When this power gets out of control it can lead to incidents like Kent State in the USA or Tiananmen Square in China.
The Protest outside Parliament with Police only was bad enough, but unleashing the Military on other New Zealanders is at another level and should be totally unacceptable and illegal!
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October 21, 2024 9:09am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  100%. Our military should not be deployed against NZ citizens, except maybe following a declaration of emergency which is obviously not the case here.
  
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  October 21, 2024 10:03am
- Chuck Bird
  
  The army should be deployed to find the children.
  
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  October 21, 2024 10:23am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The army cannot be deployed to find the children because it would be unlawful.
    
    https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0028/latest/whole.html
    
    The Act is clear. The defence force needs permission by a minister to be deployed against civilians. A terrorist hostage situation would be a good example. The army can also assist in civil emergencies.
    
    However, a guy on the run with his children, with no evidence that the lives of the children are in danger, does not meet the threshold in the Act.
    
    Happy to be corrected by any lawyers.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:59am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      I believe Coster is a lawyer.
      
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      October 21, 2024 11:02am
cmm

What better way to drive home the need for fiscal control than having a 300 “leaders” fly to Wellington for 3 days and spending $200 each on $40 lunches and $30 each on snacks.

C’mon. How about driving the message home properly: 1 day, Zoom call, bring your own sandwiches/lunch.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/health-nz-managers-ate-9000-of-canapes-as-financial-crisis-loomed/NZH3EIUSJJEV7L3TOKCRSXWYSQ/
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October 21, 2024 9:12am
- pdm
  
  cmm how does Margie Apa keep her highly paid job.
  
  Everything she touches seems to turn into a mess.
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:51am
  - rockape
    
    That’s the trouble with DEI hires.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:36am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  To be fair, it’s been the first (and likely only) in-person meeting for Health NZ since the change in government; in-person meetings have their place. Catering arrangements would have been put in place before the depth of the funding crisis became apparent.
  
  $60k all up for breakfast & lunch for 300 delegates for three days (including the canapés, which were likely a late afternoon thing) is not outrageously expensive in conference terms.
  
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  October 21, 2024 10:00am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes this is excessive..
  
  However there is an inconsistency in many commenters here on such topics.
  
  On the one hand folk condemn the working from home trend because it is not “real work”. Of course that is a myth.
  
  On the other hand you suggest that hundreds of people can hold online meetings because they are just as productive as meeting in person.
  
  You can’t have it both ways.
  
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  October 21, 2024 10:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

Hard now not to believe this was a set-up:

Andrew Bayly wrote an apology letter to the worker on Oct 11 after he had been notified that the chap had been upset by Bayly’s comments.

The Worker emails opposition parties and the PM AFTER he had received the apology.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360457679/worker-who-complained-about-andrew-bayly-contacted-opposition-parties?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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October 21, 2024 9:12am
- Ghost
  
  If I was treated like that by a minister and the minister kept his portfolios I’d write the opposition as well. This is disgraceful behaviour. From the sound of the interview with Heather took place at a vineyard. Reminds me of Aaron Gilmore. If this was a labour mp, there would be calls on this blog to demote or sack
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:18am
  - MCōs
    
    Andrew Bayly has been in parliament for ten years.
    If this was a setup he should have recognized it as such and been more assertive in his defence
    So far, that I’m aware of, no witnesses have come to his defence.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:09am
    - Ghost
      
      Yeah. He’s taken responsibility. Admitted he thought he was being light hearted when doing it. But some people on this blog do not hold the right to the same standards they do they left. His interview with Heather was a train wreck. He sounded full of it
      
      https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/andrew-bayly-commerce-and-consumer-affairs-minister-on-public-complaint-of-behaviour-during-ministerial-visit/
      
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      October 21, 2024 10:17am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t know your background Ghost, but I’m very much a working-class kid brought up by hard, but fair men.
    
    If someone has ballsed-up and an apology is given, that’s it…. the end.
    
    This ongoing, drawn-out publicity smells like bull-shit to my canny nose.
    
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    October 21, 2024 10:36am
- pdm
  
  Maggy exactly the question I raised at No Minister on Saturday.
  https://nominister.wordpress.com/2024/10/19/has-andrew-bayly-been-stitched-up/
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:53am
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  Be interesting to know who wrote that letter- the wording of which looks like it might have come out of a professional’s office.
  Also if there were any witnesses as to what took place and who heard all that was said.
  It’s all just a bit too neat and tidy IMO.
  
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  October 21, 2024 10:01am
Raphael

https://apnews.com/article/germany-fire-station-fire-alarm-system-blaze-f5abcb52a75886705a77fca5bc6bfd9b

BERLIN (AP) — A brand-new fire station in Germany, which was destroyed in a fire, causing millions of euros in damage and destroyed equipment did not have a fire alarm system, local media reported Thursday.

The fire broke out early Wednesday morning at the Stadtallendorf fire station in Hesse and destroyed, among other things, the equipment hall and almost a dozen emergency vehicles, German news agency dpa reported. Initial estimates put the damage at between 20 million and 24 million euros ($21 million to $26 million). No one was injured.

Local officials told dpa that no fire alarm system was installed in the building because experts had considered it not necessary — much to the astonishment of many observers now that the station has burned down.
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The fire broke out on an emergency vehicle belonging to the fire department, which contained lithium-ion batteries and an external power connection.

is this a fancy way of saying an EV caught fire while charging
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October 21, 2024 9:34am
- gravedodger
  
  Hope it was not being charged with Nuclear Lectric from France ?
  
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  October 21, 2024 9:55am
nathie

Helen Clark pops up again imploring the National coalition Govt to host the next America’s Cup yacht in NZ. Apparently it is “politically viable” she claims.

Sure, that would be the ideal. But “politically viable”? If that’s the case perhaps Helen should also fire a shot across the Labour Party’s bow to be sure and to explain what viability means?

Last time when the event was held in Auckland (2021) Ardern’s Labour Govt made it hard for overseas competitors to enter the country, prevented overseas super yacht’s from visiting and caused the Youth racing events to be cancelled.

Now of course those were unique times but my point is, how can Team NZ guarantee a successful outcome the next time the event is to held here due to “over zealous protective” politicians who lack common sense?

https://www.sail-world.com/news/229013/Americas-Cup-Challengers-vent-over-Kiwi-ban

https://www.sail-world.com/news/237981/Americas-Cup-Kiwis-miss-the-(super)-boat

https://www.livesaildie.com/2021-youth-americas-cup-cancelled/
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October 21, 2024 9:36am
- Bridgenag
  
  Why can’t she go away
  
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  October 21, 2024 11:07am
bythesea

Does anyone have insight on loss of propulsion for ships and the recent move to biodiesel mixes with the potential for fuel contamination?

NZ signed up to “Green Shipping” last year
https://www.munz.org.nz/2023/01/12/great-potential-for-coastal-shipping-in-green-shipping-corridors/
which I think demands watering down the diesel with biodiesel.

I think there have been two navy instances and the bluebridge ferry.
March 2024 – Fuel Contamination HMNZS Aotearoa. https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/herald-on-sunday/20240303/281582360581540
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/10/18/connemara-lost-power-in-cook-strait-due-to-fuel-contamination/
And the latest one with the Navy ship losing propulsion by the reef.

And just in case you thought it was better to take the train, the new trains just bought are set to use biodiesel too I believe
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October 21, 2024 9:56am
Tom Hunter

I laughed at this take on the US MSM:

There are writers who try to see something clearly, and then to show it to other people, and there are writers who are…Anne Applebaum. The prevailing model in American “mainstream” media is to go plow the same row again and again and again, because plowing where everybody else has already plowed is, I don’t know, safe? Consensus journalism, the 9,746th journalist ringing your doorbell to announce that Trump is a lot like Adolf Hitler. Looking wonderfully proud of themselves, like they just shat a cookie. All day, every day, all messages are the same message. Idea for a new movie: Groundhog Minute.
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October 21, 2024 10:01am
Benedict Yu

No surprise.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360458128/former-green-mp-golriz-ghahramans-appeal-over-shoplifting-convictions-fails
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October 21, 2024 10:39am
Chuck Bird

Great finish by Liam Lawson. He passed a few to come ninth.
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