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kevn

For DG…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-bus-attack-driver-told-he-was-a-servant-abused-and-punched-on-avondale-route-in-racially-charged-attack-suspect-at-large/HMKLUUXY5JEW3C2MBQXVQJQUFY/
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September 8, 2024 8:01am
- Damocles11
  
  ‘All Auckland bus driver Rajnish Trehan wanted was for an unruly passenger who refused to pay to stop shouting and show some respect to other public transport users.
  But his request for some common decency was met first with the passenger saying “This is my country, you are my servant”, and then with violence. Photos at the scene show a distraught Trehan bleeding from his facial wound. Later photos taken in hospital show a front tooth mostly dislodged and a gaping wound to his chin that required five stitches. He described the assailant as tall, in his mid-40s, and of Māori or Pacific Island descent, with short hair and a tattoo on his neck.’
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:04am
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    Hope that the bus has video to help identify this person and disuade bad behaviour.
    
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    September 8, 2024 8:56am
    - kowtow
      
      The criminal class don’t care . The courts have shown they refuse to protect the public by not imposing meaningful sentences and Labour , the last ruling power also showed it didn’t care about the public’s general safety because they literally wanted to wholesale release prisoners, much of that based on some very dodgy racial theories .
      
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      September 8, 2024 10:54am
      - backster
        
        It’s called Sentencing by consent.
        
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        September 8, 2024 1:38pm
  - sherp
    
    Isn’t ACC just great… the tax payer pays for the cost of this “accident” and it’s impossible for the victim to sue their attacker and get compensation.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:53am
    - David Garrett
      
      Sherp: If we didn’t have ACC we would have the unedifying spectacle of ambulance chasing lawyers and all the ills that go with them. ACC has its downside(s) certainly, but overall by far a better system than the alternative.
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:17am
      - bjools
        
        Disagree, but not entirely, ACC has it’s place…BUT…
        It doers not offer any deterrent to the perpetrator, in cases like this.
        or cases of personal negligence.
        eg
        Years ago, I was walking in LA, I stepped out onto the road, looking the Wrong way (like a stupid NZ tourist).
        Cars stopped up to 30m away, it was explained to me that, they are afraid of a law suit.
        Maybe in cases like this the victim could:
        1. Get fixed up by ACC (medical etc)
        2. Be open to bringing a lawsuit.
        3. the crown bringing a law suit to recover any monies for ACC.
        
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        September 8, 2024 11:40am
      - sherp
        
        Yea so that bus driver should just put up with having a 20% pay cut and receiving piss poor medical care that he has no choice of provider… or a grandmother should just accept getting her skull fractured by a violent extremist… or a protester should just put up with having lasting vision damage after a cop intentionally eye gouged him.. because after all all these violent attacks are actually just accidents.
        
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        September 8, 2024 12:23pm
      - MCōs
        
        I read about this incident this morning and asked my wife if there is a similar problem in Bangkok.
        Probably worse and there’s no ACC over there.
        A lot of angry people
        
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        September 8, 2024 3:37pm
      - ecco
        
        Bangkok is not the benchmark for New Zealand.
        
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        September 8, 2024 4:57pm
- sirknz
  
  Surprised that they actually gave a vague description of the ‘landlord’…
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  My reply from the Rogernomics thread:
  “the responding ambulance was stood down by police who told St John they were no longer required, the spokesman said.”
  What right do the Police have to make that decision? How do they know if the drivers jaw was not broken. No wonder we think some Police are just plain useless. Complaint time.
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:18am
  - peterwn
    
    The bus depot supervisor seemed more concerned about the welfare of his bus than the welfare of his driver. In the absence of an ambo, surely the supervisor could have parked the bus up (on a bus stop! and taken the driver to hospital.
    As an aside, I doubt that Singapore bus drivers would be treated in this was by unruly passengers.
    
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    September 8, 2024 8:34am
    - sirknz
      
      I doubt that any such perpetrator in Singapore would get away with it.
      
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      September 8, 2024 12:38pm
  - pdm
    
    SO – not to mention concussion.
    
    He was driving a bus after all.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:21am
- John Loveridge
  
  Putting aside the poor driver’s trauma for a moment, scroll down to the description of what drivers have to put up with every day. Yet lefties wonder why people drive their cars instead of taking the loser cruiser?
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:30am
  - Flossie
    
    Having a family member (totally Caucasian) who drives a bus for a living I am fully sympathetic with this driver . All kinds of abuse from all kinds of people.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:49am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Clearly don’t be a bus driver in areas commonly frequented by ferals unless you are a UFC champ and are built like an Orc. Even then you may not be able to defend yourself from hate filled cretins who have weapons.
      
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      September 8, 2024 3:30pm
- Souvlaki
  
  The amazing part is that a description of the perp WAS permitted! Surely this will engender a complaint to the BSA/ press council?😉
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:32am
  - john1234
    
    Yes I can’t believe that detail was allowed out. Rest assured if the perp ends up in front of the beak:
    1) untold sentencing discounts, cultural reports and sob stories leading to no consequences
    2) no mention of tribal affiliations
    
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    September 8, 2024 8:36am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They brought laws in to say they can no longer drop below 60% with discounts, gone are the days of going just 10%
      
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      September 8, 2024 9:57am
  - surfing
    
    I just assumed the perp was one of the true people due to the words they used.
    
    Only one race believes they own NZ.
    
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    September 8, 2024 8:41am
    - Swifty
      
      Exactly.
      
      A dead giveaway.
      
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      September 8, 2024 9:13am
    - Hard Cheese
      
      Surely he should be walking to his destination as his forebears would, instead of using a bus invented by evil colonizers?
      
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      September 8, 2024 1:04pm
  - peterwn
    
    The police or anyone is surely entitled to publicise the description of the perp in such instances especially to help track the perp down. If the perp does not want his description publicised he should turn himself in to the Police.
    
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    September 8, 2024 12:03pm
- DimChappie
  
  “ He described the assailant as tall, in his mid-40s, and of Māori or Pacific Island descent, with short hair and a tattoo on his neck..” This a clear racial hate crime, stirred up by Maori Party rhetoric. A steel bar there, a fist here, how much worse can it get?
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:43am
  - DimChappie
    
    RNZ have edited out the suspect’s description, so everyone will assume it is another white cis male. They are a disgrace. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/527370/auckland-bus-driver-badly-shaken-after-being-attacked-by-passenger
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:40am
    - Taieri
      
      What’s “cis male”?
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:47am
      - sirknz
        
        Generally the opposite of a sissy male.
        
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        September 8, 2024 12:40pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “cis” describes a person whose gender identity corresponds to their sex assigned at birth, i.e., someone who is not transgender. So we have “cis women” and “trans women”.
        
        The prefix cis- is Latin and means “on this side of”.
        
        This nomenclature is recent. Prior to about 10 years ago we had “women” and “transvestites”. (Women who wanted to change into men were rare. I’m not sure they had a collective noun.)
        
        In turn we now don’t have “mothers” but “birthing persons” and so on and so on.
        
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        September 8, 2024 1:07pm
      - kowtow
        
        BY
        
        It might be recent in terms of crazy gender shit but the slave owning , colonial settler Romans used it in terms of Gaul .
        ie Trans Alpine Gaul and Cis Alpine Gaul.
        
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        September 8, 2024 1:49pm
    - Ghost
      
      No they haven’t edited it out. The police have not released details yet to the media of who they are looking for. The herald reporting was what the victim told them. Even the Indian news isn’t reporting who is being sort https://www.indianweekender.co.nz/news/youre-my-servant-indian-bus-driver-assaulted-in-racist-attack#
      
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      September 8, 2024 12:09pm
    - kowtow
      
      Security screens for the drivers ?
      
      What about the passengers who’re being assaulted by the thugs …..if the public transport activists want the public to be able to travel safely then make the busses safe for everyone.
      
      Funny though , the same people who want everyone to foresake their cars are also up for emptying the prisons.
      
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      September 8, 2024 12:24pm
- Simon
  
  Violent, entitled, parasitic, identity focus, lack of personal morality. Ticks all the left wing boxes.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:19am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Call me old fashioned but these people bring it upon themselves.

I trust every hotel in Queenstown have given their sheets a very hot wash.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350407223/warning-mpox-outbreak-winter-pride-attendees
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September 8, 2024 8:01am
- Inandout
  
  NM, whatever happened to the Monkey Pox?
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:23am
  - Flossie
    
    It assumed a new identity via a name change.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:28am
  - nygr
    
    I’m still recovering from the Labour Pox
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:41am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Changed to Mpox as those in monkey communities saw it as an unjustified insult to their mana.
    Why blame and stigmatise monkeys for human behaviour choices which impact their own health safety?
    I’m with the monkeys.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:41am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Careful what you wish for, the gays can spread this pox around like wildfire, especially now it’s in Queenstown
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:00am
    - Sacha
      
      Only amongst themselves.
      Hetero sexual people need have no fear (unless there are undercover homosexuals in their midst).
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:33am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        What if a bisexual man has sex with an infected man and then with a woman? Then that woman is infected. She then has sex with a heterosexual man. Who is then infected.
        
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        September 8, 2024 12:34pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Sadly, transmission is thought possible via “contaminated materials”.
        
        Hence my comment above re. washing the sheets.
        
        http://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/mpox/if-sick/transmission.html
        
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        September 8, 2024 1:37pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    The main demographic likely to get the pox in the west don’t want to be associated with monkeys.
    
    Health warning. Try to stay away from, um, certain types of orgies, if you can.
    
    Oh and apparently “mpox” is extremely painful. Reportedly even hard core opiates don’t relieve the pain.
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:36pm
- kowtow
  
  Pity Ardern and Sir Ashley aren’t still in power .
  
  The last time a dangerous virus was on the loose they shut the borders and the country down to prevent its spread .
  
  They’d have had no hesitition in shutting down this f@#k fest in Queertown , to save us all , now would they?
  
  Meanwhile the truly evil homophobes who stole the flags are still out there endangering the communidy .
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:28pm
  - Ghost
    
    Meanwhile in the uk, the warning has gone out to schools as more than 50% of reported case are in school children under the age of 15
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:53pm
    - kowtow
      
      No more zoo visits then.
      
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      September 8, 2024 3:30pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I remember back in the late 60s when my Dad and Grandad used to take the piss out of New Year’s awards (E.G. OBE = Other Bugger’s Efforts). They were being a tad unfair I later thought. Now “we” knight people who have simply glided on in a highly paid position, talked copious amounts of dribble, and have extensively failed in their stated goals.
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:45pm
KH

Alex Foulkes who stood for the Green Party Leadership. And got no votes at all.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/home-property/350407155/tenancy-complaint-unravels-renter-order-pay-landlord-thousands
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September 8, 2024 8:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Goodness…
  Are all Green folk rip-off merchants in disguise?
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Opportunists.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:26am
  - JohnRidd
    
    Communists don’t believe in personal property. What’s yours is theirs.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:59am
    - kowtow
      
      Wouldn’t it be nice if the academics did some studies and the media highlighted which and how many holiday homes the politibureau types seized in the Make Glorious Workers’ and Peasants’ Revolutions outside of Moscow and Peking in 1917 and ’49 respectively.
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:02am
      - bjools
        
        Sounds like …
        Dr Zhivago.
        
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        September 8, 2024 11:50am
      - Taieri
        
        Lenin was riding in the ex. Tsar’s RR. Other than that he’s a man of very simple tastes. Life long beneficiary after all. For the first 40 years of his life living of Mum’s remittances and later God knows on what.
        
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        September 8, 2024 11:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Hypocritical self entitled assholes
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:01am
  - sirknz
    
    I shook my magic 8 ball and it came up with “Signs point to yes”.
    
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    September 8, 2024 12:43pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Another scummy Labour/ Green let into the country. What a waste of space.
  
  “Alex Foulkes, the man who challenged Chlöe Swarbrick for the co-leadership of the Green Party, was fined for a breach of the peace in his native Scotland and has been involved in numerous controversies both in the UK and in New Zealand.
  
  Foulkes currently works as a biodiversity lead for the Otago Regional Council.
  
  The former Scottish Labour activist and son of Lord George Foulkes of Cumnock paid the fine and told The New Zealand Herald he had no criminal record in the UK. Lord Foulkes was a Labour MP and a minister in Prime Minister Tony Blair’s Government.”
  
  And
  
  “Foulkes has also been the subject of controversy in New Zealand.
  
  In 2007, the Herald reported Foulkes was at the centre a political spat within the famous Princes St branch of the Labour Party.
  
  Foulkes, then challenging incumbent David Do for the chairmanship of the branch, claimed to be the subject of a “dirty tricks campaign” when emails emerged accusing him of “drinking and aggression towards branch members and harassing people with early morning phone calls”.”
  
  http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/activist-says-past-deeds-sensationalised
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/green-co-leader-candidate-and-son-of-british-baron-admits-being-thrown-out-of-bar-and-fine-for-breach-of-peace-in-scotland/
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:23am
  - Eastlander
    
    These red barons are some of the worst – placing themselves in opposition to their own class only magnifies their arrogance, because instead of merely feeling born to rule they reckon they’ve earned whatever they gain by having the right politics.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:40am
  - kowtow
    
    What is it about the ORC .
    
    Green MP ,Fransisco Hernandez
    
    ‘Before entering Parliament in 2024, Francisco’s public service career included stints at the Climate Change Commission working on plans to reduce waste, ACC, and the Tertiary Education Commission. He also led the Otago Regional Council’s response to climate change, including the development of a regional climate strategy and the creation of a regional working group on climate change issues.’
    
    Source Green Party website.
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:44pm
    - Matt Long
      
      I think the planning departments of Regional Councils have been strongly targeted by the toxic greens as a strategic place to damage the nation.
      
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      September 8, 2024 3:22pm
      - kowtow
        
        They can target them all they like , the question has to be who the hell and why they’re being employed .
        
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        September 8, 2024 3:32pm
- artemisia
  
  There is a tenant advice and support Facebook page, and when tenants raise issues there advice mostly consists of apply to the Tenancy Tribunal and get a big payday. Sometimes it works, but often it doesn’t. The adjudicators tend to take a fairly even handed approach based on evidence presented. Stopping paying rent is not seen as helpful to a tenant’s case.
  
  Recent Wellington case, tenants applied for $100,000 compensation for a bunch of issues. End result $0.00 – dismissed, dismissed, dismissed ……
  
  The other end result is that tenant details in a failed (or mostly failed) case stay in very public bright lights for 3 years.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:40am
- Matt Long
  
  And the rent arrears as ordered by the tribunal will be paid in 3, 2, 1, never.
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:40am
  - artemisia
    
    Maybe the debt will never be repaid, and if that’s the case the creditor can make sure debtor’s credit is wrecked for years.
    
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    September 8, 2024 12:59pm
- KH
  
  To be fair the Greens gave him no votes. None at all
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:00pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Nul poins, as Eurovision would have it.
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:39pm
Swifty

My god, AUT’s law faculty has some real issues.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-university-of-technology-survey-uncovers-concerning-law-school-workplace-higher-staff-bullying-rates/G27CB6BR3JGRPI2VX6DP4I4UEI/

And I see Professor Paul Myburgh would rather shoot the messenger than deal with staff fears and concerns.

Ugly. Very ugly.
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September 8, 2024 8:08am
- PurplePen
  
  Myburgh from outbursts seems to be part of the problem. I don’t get how these so called intellectuals get into these positions of authority yet haven’t seemed to have developed any emotional intelligence.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:10am
- Damocles11
  
  The issues start with the unhinged radical at the top. The Left are obsessed with death, with the death of their opponents. In what world are the comments of this person, who was stupidly appointed Dean, deemed to be acceptable?
  
  ‘Dean of the AUT Law School Khylee Quince told Gary Judd KC to “go die quietly in a corner” on social media, after he lodged a complaint with the Government Regulations Review Committee regarding mandatory tikanga Māori studies for law students.
  Quince wrote “I suppose it was inevitable that one of the old racist dinosaurs would make a pathetic squeal in an attempt to preserve the status quo…. Mr Judd and his “matauranga Maori is not science” friends can go die quietly in the corner.”’
  
  ——
  
  “We have been touched by the law in different ways than other citizens in the country and in quite harmful ways that have caused a lot of mamae,” Quince says.
  “We think about law as the colonisation enforcer. It’s the tool that colonisers used to bring about colonisation.”
  Quince says all Māori law academics are involved in a research project founded by the Boram Foundation, which is about implementing tikanga as the first law of the country for all law students and all law schools.’
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:11am
  - Swifty
    
    “Quince says all Māori law academics are involved in a research project founded by the Boram Foundation, which is about implementing tikanga as the first law of the country for all law students and all law schools.”
    
    Do New Zealanders get a say in this, or will this just be imposed upon us without question?
    
    I suspect I know the answer.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:17am
  - pdm
    
    Kylee Quince I do not consider Tikanga a law of the country.
    
    My understand of the word is that it fits into the courtesy and good manners areas.
    
    Something you could take on board.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:26am
  - marcw
    
    It’s the Borrin Foundation.
    If you want to investigate some of the issues on why our courts are infested with activist judges (who must never be criticized), this makes an interesting read.
    
    https://www.borrinfoundation.nz/
    
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    September 8, 2024 12:02pm
  - rouppe
    
    Before colonisation, the usual response to a disagreement or insult was to take a war party and go kill people.
    
    That’s not the tikanga I want normalized in this country
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:04pm
- stuarts-burgers
  
  This is what happens when we let Trade Scools ie Poly Techs train Lawyers
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:19pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Myburgh got one thing right. People who are unhappy should leave. With leadership like that, would you stick around?
  
  Perhaps the recently bullied 35% of staff should resign en masse, to illustrate the point.
  
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  September 8, 2024 6:50pm
kiwikidsnz

AUT proving that academics never grow up
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-university-of-technology-survey-uncovers-concerning-law-school-workplace-higher-staff-bullying-rates/G27CB6BR3JGRPI2VX6DP4I4UEI/
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September 8, 2024 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Thing is the Net Taxpayer is paying for this nonsense.
  Time to overhaul it. Who do they think they are?
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:37am
  - ISeeRed
    
    The only solution is for net taxpayers to become “net zero” taxpayers. I’ll planning my permanent departure from this socialist shithole.
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:10pm
infused

If yoi want to burn your eyes out, go read the newzealand sub reddit. Its interesting to me as it’s mostly young people (teens to around 25). It’s interesting their take on government, and how hilariously out of touch they are.

It’s very left wing, but the amount of political posts in there should prompt the right to actually engage and shut some of the nonsense down there.
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September 8, 2024 8:12am
- Eastlander
  
  It has been done and it doesn’t work. Reddit by its nature promotes groupthink and the silencing of unpopular opinions. At least one regular poster there is some kind of labour activist (hardly need to say who, they post the same rubbish on other sites under the same handle) and has carte blanche to flood the subreddit with labour party agitprop.
  
  The Auckland subreddit is somewhat better but the Wellington one is simply atrocious – a clutch of students and unemployables trading tips on awful takeaway food, not a whisper of any adult priorities or concerns. I’d like to think that many of them would wise up if they owned property and paid their own bills but I’m not sure that’s necessarily true.
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:31am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  I post there sometimes, or just downvote idiots.. the conservativekiwi subredit is a better option though.
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:22pm
  - sirknz
    
    Your thumb must be very sore because the r/NZ and r/Auckland subs are infested with idiots. I got shadow banned and was unable to post in those subs and also got fed up with all the fun, non-hivemind subs being banned.
    
    Also, if you block any accounts with 100k+ link karma, you remove 90% of the reposts that clog up your front page, along with 100% of the power mods.
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:01pm
  - Hard Cheese
    
    r/ConservativeKiwi is good
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:09pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Then the childish morons who run that platform have probably knobbled it in some sneaky way!
      
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      September 8, 2024 5:00pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    yes
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:23pm
- sirknz
  
  Reddit is heavily moderated, 4chan is not. Reddit skews to the idiot left, 4chan skews to the right.
  
  Left wing ideology can only exist in a highly moderated space that actively suppresses right wing arguments.
  
  Msm anybody?
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:54pm
igm

But it was the pasenger’s right, he is after all, one of our preferred people. If caught the court will possibly apologise to him and award compensation for expecting payment of a fare.
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September 8, 2024 8:13am
Anthony Melchett

Sevu Reece repays manipulation of nzs justice system by being yellow carded and then being caught out of position to allow the Springboks to walk in the match winner…

It’s a great day
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September 8, 2024 8:15am
- oldpark
  
  @Anthony Melchett 8.15 am
  
  Of course the real question has to be?
  Was Ian Foster a lot “Sharper” than “Razor”.
  Asking for so many who at one time said Foster was the enemy within .
  Whose sorry now .Ouch !
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:31am
  - imalwaysright
    
    All blacks coming through are softer physically and mentally.
    If they need a coach to tell them how to play then maybe they aren’t ready.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:16am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Perenara is a liability.
    Made a complete fool of himself again with his histrionics .
    The ref told Barret to shut him up or he would get sent off.
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:57pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Give it two years and the SB’s will flounder, there was signs of the AB’s getting over them, if I was a springbok, I would be very worried, they will be looking over their shoulder
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:07am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The All Blacks aren’t playing badly. Winning both SA tests was not beyond them. Closing out the last 10 mins let them down. That’s mostly an experience thing, which will come with time. The Boks have that experience. If Razor had taken over last year, with Sam W, Brodie & Arron available to him, I think the WC Final might have gone differently. As it is, we have three years to get the team right. Meanwhile, I think the Boks will be on the downward turn of the wheel by then – most of their forwards will be very long in the tooth.
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:47pm
artemisia

Retiree calls for pension ‘top-up’ for those unable to save

Helen, whom RNZ has agreed not to identify, is facing retirement with just $1000 in savings. She and her former partner have separated and he is living in their family home.She has to rely on the New Zealand Superannuation to get by.

(Second sentence noted.)

Well a change like that would definitely open several floodgates. Yet another person / sector in the long line of ‘Give us more money because not our fault we made poor decisions’.

‘Helen’ says “I think that a ‘top up’ should be paid to people with a low savings balance.” What, like the Accommodation Supplement and TAS?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/527290/retiree-calls-for-pension-top-up-for-those-unable-to-save
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September 8, 2024 8:20am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  But – “She and her former partner have separated and he is living in their family home”
  
  Presumably “Helen” is entitled to her share of the family home?
  
  The implications of this statement remain unexplored. Just another example of poor reporting by the MSM.
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:30am
  - kowtow
    
    Poor reporting ?
    
    No te media are into this idea of “equity” and redress, and why not ?
    
    The National and Labour Parties and indeed all the elements of the State be it courts or academia etc are cock a hoop about throwing taxpayer money at identity groups for imagined past grievances so why not 20th C women who didn’t/couldn’t work full time and now find themselves disadvantaged.
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:37am
  - rouppe
    
    Presumably “Helen” is entitled to her share of the family home?
    
    Precisely. And, actually, a share of all relationship property including his kiwisaver and other assets
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:09pm
    - Flossie
      
      Doesn’t that depend on how long the relationship has been going?
      
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      September 8, 2024 4:17pm
      - rouppe
        
        Not if they’re married, I didn’t think. Though I might be wrong there.
        
        The relationship property act has a time component for unmarried couples in a “marriage like relationship”.
        
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        September 8, 2024 7:12pm
- Damocles11
  
  ‘She has to rely on New Zealand superannuation to get by’.
  So already get regular payments from the taxpayer then. 🤦🏻‍♂️
  The communist onslaught continues; sell Red Radio NOW!!
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:47am
  - sherp
    
    Last I chacked super was more than the student allowance… and students are basically forced to live in laege expensive urban centers to study
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:02am
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t know in her case, but a lot a recipients of NZ Super paid tax for a very long time in order that previous older people received a pension
    Furthermore
    In the early days of National Superannuation it was far more generous than the current version requiring marginal tax rates over 60%
    
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    September 8, 2024 4:08pm
    - rouppe
      
      The times of 60% marginal tax rates didn’t have GST. That’s what flattened personal income tax rates significantly
      
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      September 8, 2024 7:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If this top-up eventuates, I can help organise some low bank balances for you…..
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:06am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Where will the top up come from?
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:08am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      From the poor suckers who have to work for a living and pay tax.
      
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      September 8, 2024 12:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If only the Democrats would stop cheating.
In reality I don’t think they can, it is bred into them.
Maybe some jail time, or would that just make them worse?

https://uniondailypost.com/texas-to-take-over-2024-election-in-harris-county-because-of-repeated-democrat-fraud/?
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September 8, 2024 8:21am
- peterwn
  
  First of all, I would ask if there was any ‘fraud’.
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    7 violations are listed. There will be others like night time ballot drops, mail in ballots stolen and copied etc. State Officials to oversee Election.
    Looks like fraud to me.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:14am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    Sorry, upticked by mistake.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:00am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Texas has thrown 100000 illegal voters out
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:09am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Illegals and dead were not purged from the list.
    Fraud!
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:41am
  - kowtow
    
    Voter suppression!
    
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    September 8, 2024 12:44pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      ~~Voter~~ cadaver suppression!
      
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      September 8, 2024 3:17pm
Scooter

So according to the Police and deputy mayor of Auckland Desley Simpson, the Grey Lynn shooting is an isolated incident and all just within a small group of people that know each other. Well 5 cases of stabbing and shooting murders in one month in Auckland should concern anyone that lives next door or even in the same street where it’s happening. Imagine what that would be like Desley. But then maybe they live in a crime free zone. Talk about tone deaf.

Simpson said: “My wider message to Aucklanders is that police are telling us that this particular event [in Grey Lynn], as with others, are isolated between people [who already know one another].
“It wasn’t as if you had a random gunman going around shooting people they don’t know.”
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September 8, 2024 8:29am
- Gravelroad
  
  A crime is a crime.
  Doesn’t matter if those involved knew each other or not.
  As far as I recall, stabbing and shooting people is actually against the laws of the land.
  Or do laws not apply if you are shooting at someone you know?
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:16am
- kowtow
  
  Keep calm ! Today’s editorial .
  
  And yet yesterday they grapically splashed it across their front page along with a map of where the 5 cases were .
  
  Proof that when it comes to te legacy meedia paahti , you can have your cake and eat it.
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:50pm
- sirknz
  
  It’s code for “shitbag gang members”.
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Media downplaying RFKjr’s endorsment.
Does it move the needle? Well of course it does, same with Tulsi Gabbard.
They have left the plantation.

https://freedomeagledaily.com/realloadednews/media-claims-kennedy-endorsement-means-nothing-yeah-right/?
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September 8, 2024 8:40am
PurplePen

Luke Pierson article in The Post a few days ago provides a rational and sound look at why cyclists are the new elite in Wgtn, as far as the council is concerned.

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350406322/meet-wellingtons-new-elite-cyclists

While I’m on it, I happened to drive from Island Bay to Brooklyn via Britomart St. 16 speed bumps later, I kid you not. Ever hopeful Simeon Brown will have a removal fund made available.
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September 8, 2024 8:43am
- John Loveridge
  
  They could use the scrapings to fill in the potholes elsewhere.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:00am
- sherp
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350352889/christchurch-road-nine-traffic-lights-all-within-16km na theres too much congestion…. wonder why… better introduce a tax to fix that
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:07am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Harris/Walz Policies.
Taxes taxed again in case they missed something. Why didn’t Labour think of this?

https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bee-has-finally-obtained-the-harris-walz-secret-list-of-policies?
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September 8, 2024 8:44am
- kevn
  
  SteveO… https://www.foxnews.com/politics/conservative-economists-pour-cold-water-harris-new-small-business-tax-proposal
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:49am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What is it with the left and Tax increases?
    They just don’t get that a Tax cut means more disposable income which went spent will stimulate the economy.
    With Harris, common core math could be the problem.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:06am
    - sherp
      
      Lefties can grasp basic economics and see the only was of raising GDP to be through collecting more revenue, and creating inflation by wasteful spending of that revenue…. people on the right just want less taxes to improve individuals productivity to grow GDP.
      
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      September 8, 2024 10:10am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Pretty simple isn’t it? The left thinking has a limit.
        IQ is room temperature and I mean Celsius.
        
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        September 8, 2024 12:17pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      when spent*
      damn typos.
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:42am
    - Eastlander
      
      Obama once remarked that even if wealth taxation reduced the overall tax take he’d still be in favour of it because ‘it’s unfair that some people have so much’.
      
      They want taxes to increase not because the government needs the money but because they don’t want you to have it.
      
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      September 8, 2024 4:55pm
wisteria

I wonder if anyone here has noticed the negativity on RNZ so called news. This morning there were about 4 Police reports on murders etc. the big news that a paralympian Anna Grimaldi won a Gold medal and this was almost last and relegated to the sports reports at the end.
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September 8, 2024 8:47am
- PurplePen
  
  Because they’ve run out of items to make up as news that’s anti-govt. Give it time and they’ll be back.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:13am
  - john1234
    
    Nothing compared to TVNZ One News which amounted to an assembled list of grievances and gripes against the government. It’s unwatchable. TVNZ can’t get sold or go broke soon enough.
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:44am
    - bruno 32
      
      Last nights TV1 news was a joke. So biased against the Government I wondered if the Labour party had bought it.If stuff was worth a dollar,TV1 would be lucky to sell for 10 cents ,so they could probably afford it.
      
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      September 8, 2024 6:07pm
- hookerphil
  
  I am a lifetime sports follower – personally the para olympics do not do anything for me. I would regard 4 murder reports leading the news as correct positioning.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:32am
  - Sacha
    
    Sports always come after the International/National news which is of interest to more people. The Para-Olympics led the sports news which is right, and the Gold medal took precedence there.
    Well done, Anna Grimaldi, and all the other medal winners who devote themselves to being the best that they can be, often in the face of great physical impediment.
    But who remembers the time when 6 Murders in One Year! made national headlines? How our society has changed.
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:48am
    - MCōs
      
      The last time NZ had six murders in one year was 1954
      This list from the police shows none for 1959
      Most homicides are not murders.
      There are no figures since 2022 presumably because a jury must determine if a particular death is a murder
      The year of the mosque murders was the only one to exceed one hundred and apart from that the worst year was 1986 with 79
      https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/historic-new-zealand-murder-offences-1926-2022.pdf
      
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      September 8, 2024 5:43pm
- Paulus
  
  Last night 6pm TVNZ News was so appalling, and frankly disgraceful, so I returned to TV3 but Tova was in charge, so I turned off, and went for a more satisfying pee !
  
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  September 8, 2024 2:05pm
surfing

This law school survey story keeps growing, as such things tend to do when suppressed by bullies.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-university-of-technology-survey-uncovers-concerning-law-school-workplace-higher-staff-bullying-rates/G27CB6BR3JGRPI2VX6DP4I4UEI/

Paul Myburgh seems like a piece of work. Rather than address the problem, he targets the victims.
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September 8, 2024 8:47am
- John Loveridge
  
  For a professor, Myburgh doesn’t appear to be very bright. He’s scored a huge own-goal there, exposing himself as a bully, and perhaps the very heart of the problems the survey revealed.
  
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  September 8, 2024 8:57am
  - Swifty
    
    I can only speculate as to the culture in that place for him to think such an email was acceptable.
    
    He writes like some sort of 1970s boilermaker union bully boy wanting to expel ‘scabs’.
    
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    September 8, 2024 9:28am
  - Hollyfield
    
    I thought lawyers used measured and factual language, not emotional threats. His words make me question his ability to teach our future lawyers.
    
    Myburgh also calls the leak a breach of the Privacy Act, but that only applies if personal data which identifies an individual was leaked. A breach of employment contract, probably, a breach of AUT policy, probably, but a breach of privacy, maybe not, depending on exactly what was leaked.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:29am
    - Paulus
      
      The sooner the Polytechs stop doing such as a Law Degree – not necessarily making Lawyers, the better.
      How many years does it take to be allowed to be called a Lawyer – used to be about 4 with a Law Firm, when you were then called to the Bar. as it was called.
      The you could practice Law but New Zealand is churning our so manty with law degrees that there is no more vacancies – but many more specifically in Maori Law, the newly created one.
      
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      September 8, 2024 2:10pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Handbags at dawn.
  That’ll fix it.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:22am
NeverMindTheBollocks

And so it begins … the US confirms the first case of bird flu with no known animal exposure.

Time to stockpile bog paper!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0rzqwxp7jo
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September 8, 2024 8:59am
Yvette

Wai
The reported payment of well over $100 million to the $2-billion Ngai Tahu corporation in return for resource consents is so extortionary, that an inquiry should surely be held into the deal. Shareholders of Meridian and Genesis should be calling for it – as should taxpayers, since the Government is the majority shareholder in both companies.
In a similar case, the Herald’s investigative reporter Kate MacNamara has revealed that Auckland Council’s water services company Watercare agreed to “$20 million worth of payments” in a secret deal with another $2-billion iwi – Tainui – in return for access to water until 2032 from the Waikato River. This was on top of an earlier $40 million agreement with the iwi.
https://www.nzcpr.com/takeover-by-stealth/

Do Maori own the waters of the Waitaki.
How long have payments been made to Ngai Tahu, to support any ownership.
If only recently, has the ‘ownership’ been a fact for just that long?
So what validity does it have?
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September 8, 2024 8:59am
- Burtland
  
  power company shareholders need to sue the companies involved in this corruption
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:10am
- stuarts-burgers
  
  No but Meridian needed a resource consent.
  The RMA allows for objectors to be “paid off”
  I think Fish and Game had their hand out as well at the same time.
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Greens damaging Kamala’s chances.
Rant by AOC.

https://patriotpulse.net/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-latest-rant-revealed-one-truth-about-the-election-that-democrats-refuse-to-admit/?
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September 8, 2024 9:05am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Just two out of forty-odd Councils think their ratepayers should have a say on Maori wards. The rest think they know better, which underlines the disconnect between Councils and voters.

The terms in which the debate has been couched makes it seem that a “no” to Maori Wards is a “no” to Maori Councillors. It would be interesting to know how many General Ward Councillors are of Maori descent.
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September 8, 2024 9:12am
- Gravelroad
  
  Firstly – Councils are run by the government influenced staff not the electeds- and certainly not the ratepayers.
  Many mayors and councillors spend happy time having their egos massaged going to functions, openings and meetings where , for the most part, the others are attending because they want something or have just received something eg a grant or promise of same for the new sports complex, theatre etc. It is all very civilised and friendly.
  Yes, they will be fronted by single issue people who get on their case about rate rises, money wasted, more funding for this and that – but they are usually easy to brush off.
  Ratepayers “having a say” on anything is often only a last minute option and not one they would want to actively pursue.
  I suspect that many councils, large and small, will be thinking that wholeheartedly agreeing to Maori wards with no dissent and no referenda will result in more coin from central government to say thanks.
  So best not to rock that boat eh?
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:31am
  - Paulus
    
    Failure to hold a Maori Ward Referendum will incur I believe a fine of $200,000 on day one, and some $10,000 per day after.
    
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    September 8, 2024 2:13pm
    - Taieri
      
      Paid by the ratepayers of course…
      
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      September 8, 2024 4:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

At least one MSM journalist recognises the violence instigated by a “peaceful” protester.

The tomato juice incident was an unmistakable act of political violence, irrespective of one’s opinions about Parker. Physical aggression that silences a political opponent crosses the line from protest into coercion. Whether one agrees with Parker or finds her rhetoric deeply objectionable, the fact remains that using physical force to prevent someone from speaking is an assault on the principles of pluralism.

https://thebluereview.substack.com/p/when-media-cheers-meet-legal-reality?
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September 8, 2024 9:14am
- Swifty
  
  Just to clarify Maggy, Liam Hehir is a Palmerston North-based solicitor in private practice and writes the odd column out of personal interest.
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:25am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Cheers…
    I had mistaken him for a regular journo
    
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    September 8, 2024 12:16pm
  - kowtow
    
    His article is well worth the read , as is the link to the shameful $t1ffed article he cites, the tenor of which seems to justify the assault.( cos Parker denied the tranny’s , trannyism)
    
    What LH doesn’t allude to the more widespread and premeditated violence that others brought to the gathering , clearly intent on it.
    
    btw Up and down the country we’re witnessing more and more of this “uncivil” behaviour from the left , endevouring to shut down peaceful political discourse . Seymour meet and greets and that treaty guy’s another ,and in the case of the latter the Establishment going along with it.
    
    Dangerous times.
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:37pm
Damocles11

The series of racial attacks on people of Asian ethnicity are the result of telling one group of people that they truly belong here, are the master race here, while everybody else are ‘colonisers’, ‘Pakeha’ (outsiders), and ‘Tangata Tiriti’ (only allowed to be here through Maori agreement via ‘Te Tiriti o Waitangi’). It is now commonplace for white Leftists to call themselves Tangata Tiriti and to say they (and the rest of us) are only here because Maori have permitted it via the Treaty.
So now it also commonplace to be told to ‘go home’, to be told to ‘go back to England’; I see these comments often on-line. Once we are all New Zealanders, now we are being racially divided into those who have a right to be here and those who are only here due to the grace and tolerance of our Maori overlords. And indeed this was the language used by the attacker when he assaulted the bus driver in Auckland: “this is my country, you are my servant.” The Left has done this, the mainstream media has done this. They have lifted a minority onto a pedestal and made the rest of us into inferior beings.
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September 8, 2024 9:19am
- Eastlander
  
  Kaipara District Council’s stand has shown that for now at least, their bluster is just that. Reject their demands, take away their privileges and they can only fume and splutter. They may threaten armed revolt as much as they please but if they have the gumption to do it, they have yet to show it.
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:05am
- sherp
  
  Strange how the left disarmed the people before doing all they can to instigate racial civil war…
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Left, the Media, the Activists, and the Waitangi Tribunal are the culprits.
  Getting out of hand. The violence needs to be addressed by the Police and the Courts, but they are scared of backlash.
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:23am
- Burtland
  
  maori all have colonialist ancestry so who exactly should go home?
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:44am
  - Paulus
    
    Did I not read recently that, unlike what is suggested by so many, that the Population of New Zealand in 1855 was
    Maori 59,502
    Non Maori 37,192
    First time I have head of such !
    
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    September 8, 2024 2:17pm
  - ISeeRed
    
    Yep. Every wave of East Polynesian arrivals after the very first one should be considered just as colonialist as the latter European ones. “Go back to Hawaiki.”
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:21pm
Bridgenag

Here too please

RFK Jr’s 12-part plan to make America Healthy again
“Kamala Harris has absolutely no interest in doing any of these recommendations. Maybe she’ll adopt my plan instead? What do you think?”

https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/rfk-jrs-12-part-plan-to-make-america?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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September 8, 2024 9:32am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “Hold regular public debate forums inviting qualified scientists on both sides of an issue to debate to help resolve important questions like whether vaccines cause autism..”
  
  The guy is a menace of the worst kind. Whether vaccines cause autism is not an important question. It is a dangerous myth.
  
  RFK reminds me of William Griggs, the doctor who diagnosed the Salem villagers as possessed, during the time of the Salem witch trials.
  
  The “both sides” rhetoric is also reminiscent of the demands of creationists that creation be taught alongside evolution in schools.
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:40am
  - Inandout
    
    BY, I would advise you to keep well clear of vaccine matters because in all honesty you are beginning to sound like a Pfizer rep. The autism argument was around well before Covid and oddly was often pushed by Green mothers who claimed ‘Big Pharma’ was responsible to lift their ‘obscene profits’. Then along came Covid and almost overnight the drug companies were praised to a level of the Second Coming.
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:07am
    - Sacha
      
      Yes, autism was a very rare, but acknowledged after-effect of vaccination in the early 1960s.
      Maybe that was when my mistrust of ‘new’ vaccines started.
      
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      September 8, 2024 12:10pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No. Vaccines were never associated with autism. In the “early 1960s” the only vaccines given in New Zealand were Smallpox, Diphtheria, Tetanus, Whooping cough, and Polio. Parents fell over themselves to get their children vaccinated because such parents had experienced first hand the horrors of these diseases.
        
        IIRC the first versions of the MMR vaccine came out in about 1970. Every New Zealander born before 1969 is considered immune from measles because before the vaccine measles was endemic.
        
        Sadly we now have people who have turned to myths, as humans have done for Millennia. People who believe that vaccines are harmful, despite all the evidence that they have saved untold millions from death and serious illness. People who believe that matauranga maori is “science” when it clearly is not.
        
        Eventually, rationality will prevail. On Maori “science”, vaccine phobia, on creationism and on the other threats to rationality. Sadly, it could take some time.
        
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        September 8, 2024 12:35pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Interesting, I had measles and mumps as a kid in late 70’s early 80’s as did most of my peers and my dad had mumps in early 80’s too. So it clearly wasn’t rolled out to whole population. I remember only pubescent girls getting rubella vaccine in mid-80’s
        
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        September 8, 2024 3:12pm
  - weirdo
    
    Are you trying to pass off Steve’s Plan as RFK’s?
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:11am
    - weirdo
      
      Are you trying to pass off Steve’s Plan as RFK’s?
      
      (response to Benedict Yu)
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:35am
  - Bridgenag
    
    So glad BY will take “lots for the team” by taking all the safe and effective Vaz Someone needs to do it..
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:31pm
Damocles11

I can imagine another set of circumstances where racially motivated attacks would be a much bigger story….

‘The nation is reeling from a series of racially motivated attacks on Auckland buses. In the first incident, a white male swung an iron bar into the face of a Maori teenager, causing the loss of several teeth and facial injuries. In the second incident, a white female screamed racial abuse in the face on an elderly Maori man, while in the third incident a white male called a male Maori bus driver his “servant” and punched him in the face repeatedly causing facial injuries and damage to the mans teeth.
Te Pati Maori co-leader Rawiri Waititi has called the attacks ‘attempted genocide’ and says they were incited by ‘the genocidal anti-Maori policies of the Coalition’. He called David Seymour a ‘racist mongrel’ and said ‘he will pay for this’. Labour leader Chris Hipkins agreed with Waititi’s comments, calling the Coalition government ‘the enemy’. Hipkins has called for a snap election and has said he looks forward to forming a new government with Waititi. Former Prime Minister John Key said he agreed with Waititi and Hipkins and asked that the Coalition and its supporters ‘turn down the temperature’ on their ‘divisive rhetoric’.’
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September 8, 2024 9:43am
- Ghost
  
  No, key did not say he agreed with Hipkins or Waititi.
  
  Let’s look at what Key said
  
  “The important thing is that we’re all New Zealanders and I think everybody wants to live in a place where we can respect one another, get along well and foster a better New Zealand. So I’d kind of encourage everyone to maybe take the temperature down a wee bit.”
  
  “You should always treat race issues carefully because in the end, we all want to live in a harmonious society, and Māori are the indigenous population of New Zealand and Treaty partners. So you have to treat them with respect and carefully, I think.”
  
  Article
  
  Key is right, this discussion needs to happen without all the aggression and with respect on all sides. Key has not agreed with hipkins or Waititi
  
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  September 8, 2024 9:55am
  - Eastlander
    
    Respect is not what is owed to Maori nationalists. What is owed to them is scorn for their pretensions and the ruin of their ambitions. The treaty did not create a partnership, and those who claim that it did are abetting rebellion and treason.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:14am
  - Damocles11
    
    It was satire. 🤦🏻‍♂️
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:22am
    - Sacha
      
      Satire can be mis-understood. It should be used sparingly, by people who understand this, and who know their audience.
      
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      September 8, 2024 12:13pm
  - pdm
    
    `Key is right’.
    
    Until he ventured into the Treaty Partnership bit.
    
    Perhaps he too needs to swot up on what Sir Apirana Ngata wrote and said.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:23am
    - Steve Todd
      
      To facilitate anyone else’s wish to “swot up” at least on what Sir Apirana Ngata wrote, here is his Explanation of the Treaty of Waitangi, in both English and Māori, first published in 1922: https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Sir-Apirana-Ngata-book-2.pdf.
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:44am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Except that Maori are First Nation (arguably) but not indigenous. The meaning of indigenous has been changed in NZ to suit the claim. Maori came to NZ in the 13th. century from the Pacific islands, so cannot be indigenous.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:32am
    - Paulus
      
      Aboriginal came before Indigenous.
      
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      September 8, 2024 2:20pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        I think you will find that the terms are interchangeable & mean the same thing.
        
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        September 8, 2024 3:48pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Seriously? “Respect” needs to be mutual. That ship sailed 5 years ago.
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:57am
- imalwaysright
  
  Damocles,
  Very good. It certainly puts things in perspective when roles are reversed.
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:49pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    Damo: I got it. But I guess you should have put // at the end. For clarity?
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:16pm
kglm

The politically motivated lawfare assault on Trump has failed. Sentencing in the only case that has proceeded (so called hush money case) before the election has been delayed until after the election. The other cases have been dismissed or trials delayed until after the election. Trump now has a legally clear run up to the election. As the purpose of the lawfare cases was to prevent Trump becoming President, there is no point proceeding with them after the election, whether Trumps wins or looses. So I expect they will all disappear after the election.
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September 8, 2024 10:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Merchan is running scared. He knows Trump will shaft him.
  
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  September 8, 2024 12:21pm
  - Mike
    
    Are you suggesting that Trump, if elected. would somehow be able to harm a justice of the NY supreme court? Other than telling more lies, for which the judge has been remarkably lenient
    
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    September 8, 2024 1:50pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Give us an example of just one of Trump’s lies that the judge has been lenient on.
      Just one.
      
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      September 8, 2024 2:03pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Merchan has already shit the bed with his way-out-of-bounds unconstitutional rulings and decisions throughout the trial. Likely he will be delivered a scathing rebuke by appeals courts – even in hyper-partisan New York state and perhaps lose his job or be disbarred due to the various ethics failings and legal incompetence (or partisanship) he has demonstrated.
      
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      September 8, 2024 3:08pm
Chuck Bird

Did anyone see Tame interview Hipkins this morning? Tame did not interrupt him once.

Time Tame was replaced.
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September 8, 2024 10:12am
- AitchW
  
  Perhaps it’s better to let him talk so the world can see just how out of touch, how ideologically fixated he is.
  Did I mention deluded?
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:23am
- pdm
  
  What about the sheila who interview Simeon Brown.
  
  She hardly gave the poor sod a chance to even start answering before she ripped into him again.
  
  Ignorant and impolite in the extreme.
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:25am
  - Mod88
    
    That was Mava Moayyed, the wife of one Jack Tame. A match made in heaven it would seem.
    
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    September 8, 2024 2:00pm
- Ghost
  
  No idea why week after week someone watches someone they don’t like just so they can come here and whinge about him. Does your tv not have an off button?
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:30am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    Frankly, I would rather that Simeon et al totally defund the filthy left media.
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:51am
  - AitchW
    
    What sort of masochist watches Hipkins interviewed on a Sunday morning? Regardless of the interviewer.
    A sympathetic interview would be nauseating, a hostile one like watching a child pull the wings off a fly. Neither would be especially satisfying…
    
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    September 8, 2024 10:54am
    - greybeard
      
      NewstalkZB’s ratings must be rock-bottom on Sunday mornings, with their 3-hour Pete Wolfkamp program from 6am.
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:05am
      - Inandout
        
        grey, Pete at least speaks from experience with regards to building matters and has at times some interesting guests. The slot he occupies from 6-9am is usually devoid of listeners.
        
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        September 8, 2024 11:13am
      - gravedodger
        
        Is he “Pete The Wolf ” the most boring host on Newstalk ZB?
        
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        September 8, 2024 4:44pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Humour?
      
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      September 8, 2024 2:06pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Would that be similar to someone whinging about a thread on a blog they aren’t interested in?
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:01am
    - Ghost
      
      Problem is day after day after day you people post the same shit about the vax, questions that should be put towards the inquiry or politicians, not people on a blog who can’t change anything that happened. and when you are asked to give it a break for one day you crap yourself. You can’t go one bloody day without bringing it up
      
      Btw if you want to know what puts people off the Covid conversations, it’s the over thrashing of it day after day. At least clan had the intelligence to be able to read the room and know people were sick of it
      
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      September 8, 2024 11:11am
      - sirknz
        
        I don’t much care for the various sports ball posts, I don’t complain about them, I ignore them and go on about my day.
        
        It works for other topics I don’t care about too.
        
        You posting about topics you don’t like but others are still interested in is getting a bit annoying too. This will probably be the only time I post this as I will now continue to ignore your posts complaining about other people posting about things that they are passionate about.
        
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        September 8, 2024 2:04pm
      - Ghost
        
        Gee, one post and you’re annoyed by it And what exactly did I post that set the vax poster off simply
        
        Me, I’d just like for a day without the Covid/vaccine crap.
        
        Both sides know where they stand, neither side is going to budge.
        
        Pretty much bet that those poor buggers that have to read the dribble day after day, the mods, are tired of it as well.
        
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        September 8, 2024 2:08pm
  - greybeard
    
    Exactly: I never listen to Tame as I can’t stand his mewling voice.
    
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    September 8, 2024 11:03am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Interview? – thought that was one TVNZ’s labour party infomercials.
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:44am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Think of the legacy media as a beer company.
  
  The brewery staff all decide that a certain type of beer is the best. They brew it and market it as the best beer. However the consumers don’t like it and most stop buying it. So the brewery responds by marketing that the consumers don’t have good taste and they are going to re-educate them to understand what good beer is. Despite this ongoing campaign the consumers continue to not like the beer so they go and find new beer suppliers, some begin to brew their own.
  
  The brewery staff start to get worried as they see their jobs are vulnerable. So they ask the government for support. The government must tax the new breweries and pass the tax back to them. They must also ban people from making their own beer. They tell the consumers to get stuffed because they are ignorant and wouldn’t know a good beer if it hit them in the face.
  
  The government give them money to produce even more unpopular beer. The consumers are now angry, they are paying tax on their new beer that the government is using to produce beer that is unpalatable. So the consumers vote out the government and the funding to the brewery is stopped.
  
  Brewing staff are laid off in massive numbers. They blame this on the unfair advantage that home brewers and their competitors have. The staff that remain attack the government as they are to blame for not funding them to produce beer that nobody wants to buy.
  
  Tame etc will continue to drive the masses away and blame us all for being wrong. They are like petulant children who will not see the error of their ways. We are all to blame!
  
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  September 8, 2024 10:59am
  - Jethrod
    
    Is that beer you are talking about , Steinlager by any chance. The most awful beer ever strained through kidney.
    
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    September 8, 2024 3:59pm
    - nigel2010
      
      Shit Jethrod I thought I was the only one who Thought that about Steinlager I would prefer Budweiser over Steinlager and Budweiser is weasel piss
      
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      September 8, 2024 6:50pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Honestly. These programmes are utter garbage. No point watching them and being surprised.
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:56am
  - cmm
    
    There is little motivation to change if the taxpayer is forced to pay for it either way.
    
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    September 8, 2024 4:35pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      TVNZ news is not funded by the government.
      
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      September 8, 2024 5:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        But TVNZ gets money from programmes financed by the State’s NZ on Air, and from State enterprise and State departments advertising. An example was the broadcast today to motorcyclists warning them against booze before riding.
        
        The detailed 2024 annual report isn’t available yet, though the media release is. TVNZ’s annual report for 2023 includes roughly $5 million of funding from NZ on Air and Te Māngai Pāho (TMP), the Maori language agency.
        
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        September 8, 2024 11:13pm
- MCōs
  
  I watched the interview you speak of and found it fairly interesting in a going through the motions kind of way.
  Earlier on in morning I listened to some podcasts after the rugby because I couldn’t sleep.
  One of them was a Spin-off episode from a few days ago of Gone By Lunchtime
  One may not like the views of the contributors, but they are knowledgeable about NZ politics and raised interesting points
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:51pm
- Paulus
  
  Understand that Tame is by far the highest paid person in the New Zealand Media world – closer to a million than very many.
  
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  September 8, 2024 2:22pm
  - wisteria
    
    If that is the case then the more we can express our views the better.Tame seems to be the guru on every comment segment and even on Heather du Plessis program. We can turn him off but unless we write here where we know “journalists” visit, how will they know?
    
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    September 8, 2024 8:33pm
Chuck Bird

I just came across this. It could be of interest to climate realists.

Climate Actually

https://climateactually.com/

[Mod – give descriptions of links]
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September 8, 2024 10:29am
- Benedict Yu
  
  There is no description of the book. Also the link states that it is out of print. 🙁
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:35am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

NZCPR. Dr Muriel Newman.
“Maori are now seriously over-represented in local government at 21.6 percent. As a result, when Maori elected in Maori seats join forces with Maori Councillors in general seats, through the support of sympathetic Councillors pushing environmental and social justice causes – they will often have a majority. An effective tribal takeover of local government by stealth is now underway throughout the country.”

https://www.nzcpr.com/takeover-by-stealth/#more-39851
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September 8, 2024 10:43am
- imalwaysright
  
  We will see gangs showing up to council meetings and passively intimidating councillors.
  Councils are the new gravy train.
  
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  September 8, 2024 11:18am
Gravelroad

Re the rugby:
Yesterday there were three games in the provincial championship (or whatever it is called).
In all three very competitive and entertaining match-ups, one team was well ahead at half time.
But the second halves saw each of the teams which were behind play determinedly well – two ending up winning.
The third lost only because of a long range penalty kick on full time.
Maybe the All Blacks and their coaches should take a look at how it’s done.
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September 8, 2024 11:54am
- MCōs
  
  None of the six teams were playing the Springboks.
  
  It’s called the Bunnings NPC
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:27pm
Ghost

Just another day in the gold old USA…..

“Numerous” people have been shot near I-75 in Kentucky and a manhunt is underway for the suspect, according to authorities.

Just after 6.30pm, the Laurel County Sheriff’s Office announced that interstate highway at Exit 49 and US 25 — nine miles north of London — was closed due to an “active shooter situation.”

The authorities added that “numerous persons” have been shot near the highway. The Independent has emailed a spokesperson for the sheriff’s office for more information.

The shooter is still at large, according to police.

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September 8, 2024 1:15pm
- Mod88
  
  Starting to sound like Auckland is it not, Quelle Surprise.
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:56pm
- Inandout
  
  Ghost, the FBI have been watching Couch since 2023. Well this is a common theme for killers on the loose, they are ‘being watched’.
  
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  September 8, 2024 2:00pm
Steve Todd

Anthony Scaramucci has been in Australia this week, attending the Association of Superannuation Funds investment summit.

This is a very interesting interview with him by SBS reporter, Sue Lannin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFt0hPnuyY [10:40].

The splurge says—

“Donald Trump’s former communications adviser Anthony Scaramucci is backing US Vice President Kamala Harris to win November’s presidential election.

“However, he’s warned that Republican contender Donald Trump is a dangerous man and there will be problems for the world if the former president wins.

“Mr Scaramucci briefly worked for Mr Trump before being sacked in 2017. The US investor, who runs hedge fund SkyBridge Capital, was in Australia this week to attend the Association of Superannuation Funds investment summit.

“He says the US Central Bank has waited too long to cut official interest rates and that’s put the US economy at risk of a recession.

“[…].”
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September 8, 2024 1:38pm
- Mike
  
  In the high comedy that was the Trump administration’s revolving door of villains and clowns, ‘the Mooch’ had an all too brief guest appearance.
  
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  September 8, 2024 1:52pm
Swifty

I’ll never understand the mentality which moves people to brand themselves on the face with their geographical or gang allegiances – in this case ‘King Country’.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Hz55oednhKJcpHaP/?mibextid=UalRPS

It’s bloody infantile if you ask me.
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September 8, 2024 1:56pm
- Ghost
  
  Yeah, but it’s also a public safety notice to cross the road when you see it
  
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  September 8, 2024 2:04pm
  - Swifty
    
    Heh. Good point.
    
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    September 8, 2024 2:38pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  At least it is in English.
  
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  September 8, 2024 2:14pm
- NothingLeft
  
  It is required to demonstrate allegiance, and to make it near-impossible for the tattooed eejit to ever leave the gang and the gang lifestyle – noone is ever going to give them a job looking like that, and they need to stay involved to keep the protections the gang can offer against other gangs.
  
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  September 8, 2024 3:01pm
  - Jethrod
    
    It’ll be OK if he keeps his head turned during the job interview though.
    
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    September 8, 2024 4:05pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Surely that should read “Kingi Motu”?
  
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  September 8, 2024 6:58pm
- John Loveridge
  
  The amount of facial coverage is inversely proportional to the intelligence.
  
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  September 8, 2024 7:36pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Kamala Harris struggling despite what MSM say.
Still just under two months, things can change in a week depending on who has the most aces.

https://conservativeadvocacy.com/polls-show-kamala-harris-struggling-in-michigan-as-trump-gains-ground/?
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September 8, 2024 2:33pm
Swifty

Those New Zealanders who believe this gentleman, Hipkins, can or will deliver on his very Ardern-like lofty aspirational statements, especially after his disastrous last six years, need their heads read:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5umufC4NKxY

This man has no answers.

He will also require Green and the lunatic Maori Party support partners who will demand all sorts of policies which will over-regulate our economy, drive up business cost and complexity and massively increase state spending and state reach – with little to show for it.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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September 8, 2024 3:02pm
cmm

Stuff outstuffing themselves by “quoting” paralympian Anna Gimaldi incorrectly.

“‘I didn’t know I could run that good.’: Grinning Grimaldi stunned after winning Paralymic gold”.

The word is “well”, not “good”.

But no, Anna did not make that mistake. Stuff did.

The real quote is “We only spoke about tactics five minutes before call room. After the heat, I knew if I could hold it together, I could run a really good time but I didn’t know that good.”

That is is a correct usage of “good”, but Stuff chose to chop up what she said to make a headline, and in doing so made her look illiterate.

Terrible work from so-called wordsmiths!
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September 8, 2024 4:32pm
- greybeard
  
  It happens on NewstalkZB as well: Max Towl, from the Wellington office, cannot pronounce “distribute” and “contribute” correctly, and it is bloody annoying. In fact it is insupportable for a radio host, whose entire career is built on the power of sound, to make such basic errors of pronunciation. especially when they turn themselves inside-out trying to obey the latest maori language pronunciation so as not to offend the special people.
  
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  September 8, 2024 7:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Ode to King Luxon.
Any description spoils it, sorry.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/an-ode-to-king-luxon/ar-AA1qaJaj?
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September 8, 2024 5:15pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Puerile!!!!
  
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  September 8, 2024 6:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

These days there seems to be a lot of lefties on Kiwiblog.
I see this as good, and good without any nastiness. It works both ways.
NZ politic comment will increase especially about the Councils. America as well with the Nov 5th Election date in under two months.
Looking forward to all.
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September 8, 2024 5:21pm
- Steve Todd
  
  These days there seems to be a lot of lefties on Kiwiblog.
  
  And why shouldn’t there be, Stevie-boy? As I have pointed out before, our gracious host welcomes the expression of differing points of view on this blogsite.
  
  Indeed, I have no doubt whatsoever that he would be appalled were Kiwiblog to descend into being merely a right-wing echo chamber.
  
  Looking forward to [it] all.
  
  Me, too. In fact, I can’t wait to see what happens on 6 November (our time) and in October next year.
  
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    I did not say they shouldn’t be here. I did say I see this as good.
    Things will change before Oct next year. I for one will be personally face to face putting pressure on local Councillors about the Maori Wards and no referendum. They want my vote then they need to earn it. I will have support to back it up.
    
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I read from a recent visitor that Tonga is the meth capital of the Pacific. This surely can’t be the case for such a wonderous tourist spot?
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