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Grunter

Rodney Hide exposes just how bad the Ministry of Education is.

If anyone doesn’t think our kids are being brainwashed, please have a read.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/rodney-hide-the-ministry-of-education-is-destroying-our-kids
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August 13, 2024 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Talents/skills way down on the list. What is the Education Ministry doing to the kids?
  They obviously don’t want them learning, they just want them indoctrinated.
  How did New Zealand get to this state without being stopped?
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:15am
  - Paulus
    
    The Ministry of Education is run by a feminist cadre who will do every and any thing to protect what they want and get.
    It was overheard early on about the new elected coalition Government Minister of Education – “What does she know about Education that we do not”. This was at a very at a senior level.
    The fact that this does immense damage to our Country for many years to them is irrelevant.
    I am told from within that you step out of line in this chain of thought and you are finished.
    It is the toughest Maori prone regime in Government today, and it is suggested that the previous CEO Peter Hughes was quietly phase over when he was there. He was appointed head of Public Services Commission but retired early late last year.
    However I am told it may be exceeded by the Ministry of Social Development (who are almost three times the size).
    As this has been going and developing under successive growth for very many years increasing its powers exponentially.
    It is impossible to reign either in as to when you look at their top tier managements.
    I am sure there are other Departments similarly encompassed ensuring that no Government even Labour, as we have seen over recent years, can control.
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:55am
    - John Loveridge
      
      I’m with Benedict Yu’s call to abolish the entire organization and start again.
      
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      August 13, 2024 2:53pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “However I am told it may be exceeded by the Ministry of Social Development..”
      
      Guess who was CE of MSD before he went on to Education? Peter Hughes.
      
      There was a CE imported from the UK who seemed quite smart. However Hekia Parata hated her and had her effectively sacked after a short time. Peter Hughes was then appointed. My observation is that he ruled his second tier managers with an iron fist, Nobody stepped out of line. The worst thing you could do is get the Ministry mentioned unfavourably in the media.
      
      I have no doubt that the ony solution is to abolish the organisation and start again. I would suggest that those who think that is hyperbolic have never dealt with them.
      
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      August 13, 2024 4:27pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Family absent from the list.
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:29am
- John Loveridge
  
  This is what I have been fighting, as a parent, for some years now in trying to get my children a decent education.
  
  But when gender-confused green-haired teachers are bringing books by Tusiata Avia into Year 9 classrooms what hope do I have?
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:52pm
Yvette

On a shelf somewhere?
In supporting UNDRIP in 2010 the Key Government announced the covenant that the Treaty defined the extent of any involvement –

In moving to support the Declaration, New Zealand both affirms those rights and reaffirms the legal and constitutional frameworks that underpin New Zealand’s legal system. Those existing frameworks, while they will continue to evolve in accordance with New Zealand’s domestic circumstances, define the bounds of New Zealand’s engagement with the aspirational elements of the Declaration.

But in more than 72 hui, after the release of He Paupau, Willie Jackson discussed UNDRIP with “targetted” (Jackson’s word) Maori élite, but didn’t get around to discussing issues with non-Maori New Zealanders, in Ardern’s promised “conversation”, before the Election shelved it – another Labour fucking non-delivery

So where is all the material resulting from the consultation Jackson did do.
The material which he did not take to Cabinet because he himself was unhappy with 20 percent of it, and had sent that back for a rewrite.
Where is all that material? Do Winston Peters and David Seymour have access to it? Why don’t we?
On what shelf does it all sit?
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August 13, 2024 8:04am
- Grunter
  
  Yvette
  I’m sure it will be on Luxon’s shelf so he can keep the Treaty moving with the times as he so alarmingly put it the other week.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:07am
Damocles11

The leftist NZ Herald has capitulated meekly to TPM and the thugs veto, as every thinking person knew they would.
Please make your displeasure felt by unsubscribing from the leftist Herald: opinion pieces are not ‘facts keeping us informed’….we all have opinions. Facts are different from opinions.
The leftist Herald has decided where it stands on free speech: it is against it.

https://x.com/CranmerWrites/status/1822931993195119054
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August 13, 2024 8:06am
- Random T Person
  
  The Herald is going to fuck themselves twice now. The Maori separatists are already miffed (and we all know they have very thin skins and won’t be placated), and now they will piss off the free speech and unity advocates too. That’s what happens when you’re unprincipled.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:13am
  - AitchW
    
    What a pack of spineless morons. I wish that I subscribed so that I could cancel my subscription!
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:26am
    - Paulus
      
      I cancelled mine over three years ago.
      They are a dreadful rag with paper now I am told too thin even for the toilet.
      Take the Adverts away and there is nothing left I am told.
      
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      August 13, 2024 11:11am
      - Damocles11
        
        You are not wrong. Just a thin rag of vicious attacks on the government and cartoons to match that written content. It’s tissue thin. They are literally destroying their own business through the DEI hires they took on with PIJF money. It’s like willingly infecting yourself with some dreadful disease.
        
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        August 13, 2024 3:33pm
    - PurplePen
      
      I sent a note to subscriptions anyway as a vote of no confidence.
      
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      August 13, 2024 4:26pm
  - kowtow
    
    They fuck us too .
    
    Every single time ‘we’ give in or adopt a newly minted , top down , imposed racial affectation is a victory to the extremists and will only encourage them , bolster their morale while ours sinks etc and our pockets continue to be picked and freedoms abridged .
    
    That’s why every “ki ora”,every greeting , mahi , motu , traffic sign saying ‘kura” etc counts in what is not a “culture” war but an extreme left activist agenda to undermine our history , traditions ,democracy and freedoms , so hard fought for over hundreds of years .
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:52am
  - Damocles11
    
    A copy of the ad that the leftist Herald refuses to run is attached to the below xeet. It would have utterly refuted the TPM claims of ‘misinformation’ in the first ad. NZME are a disgrace.
    
    https://x.com/K1w127/status/1823101446562467921
    
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    August 13, 2024 4:13pm
- alex Masterley
  
  There is a shiver running around the NZME offices looking for a spine.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:48am
  - kowtow
    
    If it weren’t so serious , it would be funny , but isn’t.
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:53am
- John Loveridge
  
  It’s very disappointing but not surprising to see what a bunch of weak and useless cowards the Herald is.
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:09pm
- Damocles11
  
  Sean Plunket tearing strips off NZME and the leftist NZ Herald in the link below. Check the comments below the video for evidence people are now motivated to cancel their subscriptions, likely for good. This spineless, gutless capitulation to the thugs veto by NZME will be the last straw for many.
  
  https://x.com/SeanPlunket/status/1823155771431072014
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:59pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Tim Walz. Stolen Valor. He did not earn the rank.

https://discernreport.com/former-battalion-commander-lights-up-tim-walz-over-stolen-valor-scandal-he-did-not-earn-the-rank/?
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August 13, 2024 8:07am
- Random T Person
  
  The dude just looks and sounds like a phony.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:13am
  - AitchW
    
    Of course he does, he’s a politician!
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:22am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Didn’t you hear? According to Politico, unlike all other male politicians Walz can pull of dressing down!
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:44am
- Libertarians are right
  
  While the guy is correct, it’s worth noting that he was made commander of that unit AFTER Walz left.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:44am
kowtow

The mainstream media here want you to watch and focus on the prurient details of one particular murder trial , tell us we’re top of the world in sports ( which is an irrelevancy , Olympics) or pearl clutch over empty stadiums and kicking an oval football around …….

…….meanwhile businesses and households struggle with power bills , grocery prices are still rocketing and our constitution and freedoms are still being eroded by the major political parties while the media who should be highlighting this , either ignore it or actually promote the radical change.

We’re being plucked and played . Bigly.
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August 13, 2024 8:12am
- Damocles11
  
  The leftist Herald in their Facebook feed has a constant parade of what I’d call ‘padding’ stories about Hollywood or Royal ‘celebs’, advice stories about what vegetables to eat or how to clip your toenails, and other guff and nonsense…..and then in between those they run their ‘OneRoof’ advertarticles for the property industry (‘Bob sold his house for $3 million’ and variations on that theme) and loads of stories – many from RNZ – attacking the government on behalf of the PSA and CTU. I’ve noted that many of these stories are based on unsubstantiated claims made to the Unions by ‘staff’ or ‘sources’, and then the Labour spokesperson will also make extensive comment….infrequently the accused department, usually Health NZ, will get a right of reply – essentially it seems to be along the lines of ‘we don’t know what the Union is talking about’.
  
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  August 13, 2024 10:14am
  - greybeard
    
    Not just the Herald: as an old bugger I am often awake throughout the night, and sometimes listen to NewstalkZB : the overnight “news” programs are invariably presented with an anti-government slant, sometime subtle, sometimes overt.
    It is not uncommon for the entire “news” to consist of 3 or 4 such items, no overseas news etc. There are many items for which no source is given, just some vague “studies show” or “most NZrs think” sort of thing.
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:53am
    - artemisia
      
      Audio books. Free from libraries and free to choose what to listen to.
      
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      August 13, 2024 11:55am
      - Colville
        
        better still:
        
        https://audiobookbay.lu/
        
        search function is a little clunky and sometimes it takes a while to get something but pretty much everything is there.
        
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        August 13, 2024 1:04pm
septic skeptic

I see National are considering opening up a new revenue stream for councils – congestion charging. Bad idea. We won’t get better roads from it. Instead we will have more years of large salary increases for council staff, now they are approaching the limit of what can be funded with massive rates increases.
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August 13, 2024 8:13am
- kingerstinger
  
  Yup. Reminds me of the time Grant Robertson put down his third trifle of the day to insist every cent of the Auckland RFT would go to roads…only for everyone to discover two years later it had gone to trains, buses, and mostly unspent!
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:09am
- Grunter
  
  The way to fix a failed, centrally planned transport system is more centrally planned initiatives. And if that doesn’t work, they have more central planning ideas……
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:13am
- Burtland
  
  Congestion charging will allow councils to game the traffic system.
  
  Stage 1 is well underway in Christchurch – a congested traffic system designed by cyclists
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:26am
- mogg
  
  It’s the non competitive services like council rates and lack of competition in the home insurance market that is keeping domestic inflation high, and therefore interest rates much higher than they should be.
  RBNZ will not reduce rates tomorrow because it would devalue $NZ and cause imported inflation at this critical time.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:49am
  - Paulus
    
    Briefly, as a retired Insurance waller of over 40 years Insurance Costs only rise due to the payment of Claims, for which they are there for.
    Do they make a profit each and every year ? –
    I could go very much wider but it is Tuesday morning.
    Think these main things
    Claims Payments and outstanding provisions
    Staff – currently difficult to find.
    (Wholesale) Reinsurance Costs- Overseas.
    Investment returns whilst you have premiums on route to paying claims. Low returns over recent years.
    Remember the Christchurch Overseas Reinsurers have not seen a balance yet – and other large claims have followed.
    Actually being an Insurance Company to day is fraught with problems.
    Glad I retired over 25 years ago.
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:23am
- Ian
  
  Where am I going to put the required unit that tracks you for charging on my Vespa? And other motorcycles. Especially if such unit requires wiring into to the vehicles electrics. Will it be waterproof? So many things to think about…..
  
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  August 13, 2024 10:55am
Bridgenag

Dumb head girl eco-activist explains how best to deal with your “climate feelings,” in perhaps the stupidest climate change essay of all time
Our first foray into the Unlearn CO2 morass.

https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/dumb-head-girl-eco-activist-explains?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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August 13, 2024 8:14am
- BananaLlama
  
  Brontosaurus and his all-wheel drive is what ended the ice age.
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:22am
- cmm
  
  The finest example of 12 years of ejikayshun.
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:51am
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  “climate feelings”. Jesus wept!
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:59am
Simon

Said years ago John Key was the worst PM. So it is proving to be true. Many slowly waking up. Luxon / National now are not nearly so bad. Though this doesnt matter as the damage has been done and Luxon aint up to it. Place holder for Labo, Maori Party & Gweens.

Tory Boy National. There is a reason why Hipkins is so quiet. He is happy with the level the Tory Boys are operating at.
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August 13, 2024 8:15am
- kingerstinger
  
  Is that rock you’re living under nice and warm Simon?
  
  Not even 2 weeks ago we had Chris Hipkins making a dick of himself hysterically trying to dent the Government over their “anti-Maori” policies.
  
  Not even 5 days ago we had him asking steadily more ridiculous questions in the house, picking up even the attention of the old bulldog Audrey Young who decided she’d probably had enough of picking on National/ACT/NZF. If you’re going to make ridiculous arguments, spend a few minutes making sure you’ve got something to back them up with!
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:06am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, I watched Hipkins in the house last week, oh my god he is pathetic, suggesting that the minister who said we are not in Mexico now is a racist rant shows just how weak and gutless and insecure he is
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:27am
- Ghost
  
  Hipkins isn’t quiet, turn your hearing aid up and put your glasses on
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:13am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He isn’t quiet, but he is as usual not delivering anything with substance.
    
    He returned to Auckland to get Aucklanders looking him again, and he went to a Muslim shop, if that does not suggest his Rafa is well and truly off then his knows what will
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:30am
- pdm
  
  Luxon and National are not so bad because they have Seymour and ACT, plus Shane Jones keeping them on track.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:19am
  - Colville
    
    The proposed new 3 strikes law says that is a load of bollocks.
    
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    August 13, 2024 5:07pm
- mogg
  
  The worst PM title goes to the ‘silly little girl’.
  Second worst would be Hipkins or Shipley.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:53am
  - AitchW
    
    My vote is for Hipkins.
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:12am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I actually think Hipkins may have been worse than Ardern
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:31am
  - Damocles11
    
    Hipkins has the most punchable face of any PM.
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:11am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Hipkins is more concerned that shortly McNulty will be taking his place, and he is still yet to find a nice trough settle in.
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:03pm
Bridgenag

World Health Organization IHR Mods, Kamala Fakes, and Fauci! #PsyWar
Detailed analysis and questions from the UK REPPARE group

…”Moving on.

Tony Fauci, fully jabbed and boosted, is yet again infected with the virus that he helped fund the development of. In response, he is promoting masking, basically because the jab does not work. Of course, neither do paper dust masks. Please forgive my indulging in a brief moment of schadenfreude at his expense. I should show empathy for his health problems, but just cannot deny my emotions. After all, feelings are all that matters in a post-truth world.”….

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/world-health-organization-ihr-mods?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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August 13, 2024 8:18am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “After all, feelings are all that matters in a post-truth world.”….”
  
  In your case anecdotes are all that matter. 😅
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:43am
- pdm
  
  An alternative view Bridgy.
  
  mrspdm and I have missed one booster jab only. Our GP stresses we should have them and we value his advice.
  
  Neither of us has ever had covid. Our kids say we must be carriers.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:01am
  - Grunter
    
    My GP says “don’t bother…”
    
    I value his advice.
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:19am
    - pdm
      
      `Freedom of speech and points of view Grunter.
      
      Exactly as New Zealand should be.
      
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      August 13, 2024 1:31pm
  - Ghost
    
    https://www.sciencealert.com/world-first-experiment-reveals-why-some-people-never-get-covid-19
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:23am
  - Anthony Melchett
    
    Go back to 2020 and look up t cells…
    
    Same reason any bug goes into any household and not everyone gets it.
    
    Also could be that you simply don’t have enough close contact with anyone.
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:27am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Whisper it quietly least the Swifties hear, but TayTay is a climate criminal.

In 2022, Swift’s private jet was reported to have taken 170 flights, spending circa 16 days airborne and producing more than 8,000 tons of CO2.

To put this in perspective, the average American’s annual carbon footprint from flying is estimated to be around 0.8 tons of CO2.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Taylor-Swifts-Colossal-Carbon-Footprint.html
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August 13, 2024 8:24am
- Chuck Bird
  
  It is her plane and her money.
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:44am
  - kowtow
    
    Doesn’t change facts .
    
    And the funny thing is that so many of her fanatics are possbly also a big part of the climate anxiety demographic.
    
    I’d also warrant that the many cities that are so anxious to earn a few dollars from hosting her concerts will also be the ones who’ve declared “climate emergency” and are actively attacking their own citizens car usage .
    Not to mention the media who seem to be obsessed about covering all things Swift ( except her carbon footprint and crimes against the planet)
    
    Innit.
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:13am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Do you think there is a cliamte emergency?
      
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      August 13, 2024 9:50am
      - kowtow
        
        Oh dear .Are you serious ?
        
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        August 13, 2024 9:56am
    - mogg
      
      The UK media were claiming that the Swift concerts caused the uptick in inflation there.
      
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      August 13, 2024 9:57am
    - fernglas
      
      When Coldplay toured a year or so back they were very conscious of carbon emissions so when they did the Aussie leg, they only went to Perth as that was the closest city to their previous venue. The problem was that the concert attracted 40,000 out of state visitors, all of whom would have had to consume shitloads of fossil fuels to get that far. Lots of hypocrisy from these people
      
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      August 13, 2024 6:30pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    It is. The point is that people shouldn’t put a disproportionate amount of value into the opinions of celebrities because they aren’t saints and are often hypocrites.
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:48am
Rusty

Was this zero talented break dancer Raygun a deliberate attempt by the woke/left to mock Olympic sports?

There’s more to this story than we think.
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August 13, 2024 8:28am
- Ghost
  
  I had to go have a look. Ummmm, ahhhh, ummmmm
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tPyhfqLy4g
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:42am
- pdm
  
  Rusty – Razor would have done better.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:02am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    This is an untrue statement. Razor is equally as awful with his spinning
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:28am
    - pdm
      
      I will take your word for it.
      
      Razor may be the only break dancer I have ever seen.
      
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      August 13, 2024 1:39pm
- kowtow
  
  Talking of mockery , I’m shocked and offended that the Olympics allowed this person to breakdance , because she and the IOC have culturally appropriated an African American phenomenon and her ‘performance’ was an insult !
  
  Talking of cultural appropriation ……the only people who should be allowed to perform any Olympic sports are naked Greek male athletes , ( non circumcised) anyone else should be cancelled …….
  
  …….innit.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:02am
- kingerstinger
  
  It’s not that deep, Rusty. Badly thought out inclusion to the Olympics which featured an out of her depth Australian who was crap. Case closed.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:07am
- gravedodger
  
  Two days ago Swmbo and self attended “A Touch Of Ireland”, something of a contrast in skill level very apparent?
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:09am
Chuck Bird

Luxon claims everything is on the table when it comes to energy. I doubt if that includes nuclear.
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August 13, 2024 8:34am
- kowtow
  
  Plenty of coal available . Infrastructure , know how etc
  
  Just do it . It’s a huge part of our history and heritage and the basis of our economy and prosperity.
  
  It can only be good for us.
  
  There are no downsides .
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:41am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Dump Indonesian coal, and use the coal out under Huntly
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:34am
    - Damocles11
      
      There is a beautiful seam of coal under Maramarua as well.
      
      ‘The Waikato coal region consists of coalfields developed 30 -35 million years ago during the Eocene-Oligocene period, which formed the Waikato coal measures. The region extends from Drury (near Auckland) in the north to Mangapehi, south of Te Kuiti.’
      
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      August 13, 2024 3:35pm
  - cmm
    
    Quite.
    
    We have enough coal just in Southland to provide all of NZ’s energy needs (heating, electricity, coal to petrol,…) for ove 300 years.
    
    We don’t have an energy shortage.
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:11am
- G152
  
  There has been so much BS about nuke power and those that have it just do their daily deeds with a guaranteed power supply.
  Greens shouldnt need power its not natural
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:48am
- Grunter
  
  Sounds like he needs to “….go read a book…” again.
  
  He is such a fraud. Sucks up to the climate czars to sound “cool” then comes out with his Mr Fixit routine.
  
  Slippery, slippery, slippery…..!
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:23am
- Burtland
  
  Bangladeshi 2.4 GWe nuclear power plant …
  
  “The $12.65 billion contract is 90% funded by a loan from the Russian government. The two units generating 2.4 GWe are planned to be operational in 2024 and 2025. Rosatom will operate the units for the first year before handing over to Bangladeshi operators. Russia will supply the nuclear fuel and take back spent nuclear fuel.”
  
  This is about 1/2 NZs Hydro capacity (5.5GW)
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooppur_Nuclear_Power_Plant
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:40am
  - kowtow
    
    I see it’s built on the banks of the Padma river , rises in the Himalayas .
    
    Shocked ! We’ve been told so many times those rivers will run dry due to global warming !
    
    When that happens , if we don’t cut our carbon emissions and kill all our cows and dump our utes , they won’t be able to cool the reactors !
    
    Why didn’t the scientists , engineers and politicians who’re behind this project take those settled science and indisputable facts into account
    
    Surely we should get some comment from the UN Secretary General , ‘the world is burning’ to tell these guys to stop this madness ………
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:45am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Well just perhaps nuclear is on the table, announcement coming this week from Contact over gas supply
  
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  August 13, 2024 10:33am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  How about a shiny new coal-fired generator? Is that off the table?
  – I gather we have enough coal to last us centuries.
  – It’s reliable.
  – Modern generators are pretty clean, producing mostly life-giving water and CO2.
  – We could construct one must faster than a nuclear station (generally hampered by regulation).
  – They have a small footprint, which is preferable to the monstrous, ungreen and unreliable solar and wind factories. This means we could plonk it nearby to where we need the lectrickery.
  
  What’s not to like?
  
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  August 13, 2024 1:15pm
I remember when

Unstoppable women: Manawatu Standard.
Kiwi wahine won eight of New Zealand’s 10 gold medals in Paris, making a powerful case for more funding for women’s sport.

No it doesn’t!
If women have won eight of ten gold medals surely, if anything, it would make a case for more funding for men.
It doesn’t, it simply confirms the selection of the successful athletes.
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August 13, 2024 8:42am
- sherp
  
  Where’s the OIAs to high performance NZ to find out why men are doing so much worse atbthe elite level….
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:00am
  - riffer
    
    I’d argue that perhaps the men were competing in sports that there was more competition in. Perhaps men would do better by concentrating more in sports where there was worse competition. Breakdancing being an obvious choice. 😉
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:18am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    People at the pub on Sunday saying we only got one gold from men, well, I can think of three just like that
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:35am
    - Paulus
      
      The Women’s media do not recognise any Men’s medals – it is Woman only world called Aotearoa now.
      
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      August 13, 2024 11:28am
- Spam
  
  There was the follow-up article where they noted that because pakeha have better health outcomes, that there should be more health funding for white people. And because asian people have better maths scores, we should be funding them more.
  
  /sarc
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:10am
- gravedodger
  
  How many of the ten Gold Medals from Paris were on offer at say the 1956 Games in Melbourne?
  How many Nations would allow any such female participation in sport?
  How would pole vaulting go wearing a Burka.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:11am
  - kowtow
    
    With a decent following wind and updraft they might set a record. The problem might be confirming who the athlete is.
    
    Anyone else remember how the Soviets opened the stadium doors for their own back in the day and then closed them for the others………
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:21am
  - MCōs
    
    NZ is obsessed with the Olympics relative to the rest of the world. India won one silver (Pakistan won a gold)
    Thailand with a population of 70mil won one gold. I watched her win on TV, my Thai wife wasn’t interested.
    When you work all day to put rice on the table that doesn’t leave much time to train for the sport.
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:41am
    - kowtow
      
      If the IOC were truly “inclusive” they could create new sports such as rice threshing, rice speed carving and sushi scoffing , that would get more eyes on the box from those parts of the world …
      
      if breakdancing can do it …
      
      innit
      
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      August 13, 2024 10:07am
      - imalwaysright
        
        They managed to exclude Russia and North Korea, that will have skewed the results and tainted some achievements.
        
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        August 13, 2024 11:42am
      - Mike
        
        NK competed.
        
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        August 13, 2024 7:21pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Kayaking would have been there, most the cycling, high jump, Rowing. No women’s sevens, and no canoe medal for Butcher, as far as I can see from 56, perhaps in certain sports the design may have been different, but still we should have got 8
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:39am
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    If things were different, things would be different.
    
    Well, yeah.
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:17am
- MCōs
  
  Funding is reliant on results
  Not the other way round
  Olympic sports that achieve well are looked after as long as they prosper
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:17am
  - kowtow
    
    They prosper while we’re paupered.
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:18am
  - rouppe
    
    Then why do we continue to fund sprinters?
    
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    August 13, 2024 9:52am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Zoe only had to equal her best to get in the final
      
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      August 13, 2024 10:40am
    - kowtow
      
      So they can run all the way to the bank , with our tax dollars .
      
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      August 13, 2024 11:46am
- Grunter
  
  Let’s borrow some more money from future taxpayers to fund elite athletes…… doesn’t make any sense.
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:27am
- Burtland
  
  one of the only benefits of competing in the Olympics, is its apparently good for the nations mental heath and wellness …
  
  doesnt seem to be having any effect on our deranged media
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:46am
  - MCōs
    
    Could always pour the money into a new tractor factory, I suppose
    
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    August 13, 2024 2:54pm
artemisia

Herald today (paywalled) –

Media Insider: NZ Herald publisher NZME rejects new Hobson’s Pledge advertisement; says it is reviewing advocacy ads

Oh look, the reason quoted by, umm, the Herald –
“The New Zealand Herald have allowed themselves to be bought off by a well-resourced anti-Māori collective. They have promoted misinformation on their front page so they can feast off the anti-Māori agenda being pursued by this Government,” said co-leader Rawiri Waititi.
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August 13, 2024 8:48am
- Tom Hunter
  
  All is proceeding as I have foreseen! 🙂
  
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  August 13, 2024 8:56am
- Grunter
  
  I think we need to dial it down a bit, all these proven facts are raising the temperature too much and we all just need to move with the times and adjust the Treaty so that we don’t offend anyone.
  – Key, Luxon, ……
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:31am
- AitchW
  
  And now the Herald has been scared off by a publicly funded anti-government collective.
  Scaredy cats!
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:45am
  - Damocles11
    
    They have rejected ads from ‘the right’ in the past, they probably felt bound to accept this one after running wrap around CTU attack ads on Luxon in the lead up to the last election. Now they have reverted to type at the first hint of pressure. They are a leftist rag these days, they haven’t been ‘scared off’ at all, they needed an excuse to revert to their previous stance and they got one.
    
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    August 13, 2024 10:26am
    - kowtow
      
      The company banned historian and former MP and minister Michael Bassett.
      
      It’s like living in some fascist state . Seriously.
      
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      August 13, 2024 11:49am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  We know they’re scum. They know that we know they’re scum, but they keep being scummy.
  They are not our friends.
  Cancel your subscriptions. Do not listen to their twisted messages.
  Tell our MPs not to keep propping the video stores of the news media up.
  
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  August 13, 2024 1:28pm
Burtland

Aotearoa Science Update

Judith Collins has unveiled NIWA’s new supercomputer
– its not actually ready to use yet but will be able to run complex climate and weather models much faster at “nine thousand trillion calculations a second” – no report of the cost.

Their 3 current ones, Māui, Mahuika & Kupe, cost $23M in 2018.

In the meantime everyone awaits Sir Peter Gluckman’s redesign of the future science sector.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/524986/niwa-unveils-new-climate-and-weather-modelling-supercomputer
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August 13, 2024 9:14am
- cmm
  
  Garbage in, garbage out…. but faster!
  
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  August 13, 2024 11:07am
  - Conservatarian
    
    Towards a future of us shivering in the dark…but faster.
    
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    August 13, 2024 2:29pm
kowtow

Being very well covered by Plunket on the Platform.

Likewise Plod and their hate hub being pursued by the FSU .

These are the true serious issues that msm largely , deliberately ignore .
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August 13, 2024 9:17am
- Blog-aholic
  
  The Mainly Stupid Media have not worked out that they too are on the list eventually. The state will come for them as well in the end……
  
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  August 13, 2024 9:42am
Yvette

Random thought
When is Seymour going to deliver his bill.
Since some frustrated clown will likely initiate New Caledonian or UK rioting here, or gangs or ram-raiders see advantages in looting and chaos, the Maori Kingii uniting force (for what, not to talk, because both he and Seymour were at the opportunity of Waitangi, but didn’t) – will it not all take time to quell before any next Election, delayed or not – so will the bewildered vote in Labour again, or of fear vote Party Maori, and tribalism ensue?

Another problem is that the lever of the grenade and its fuse have to be perfectly aligned to get the pin back into the grenade. When you lose just a little pressure on your grip, the lever will move a bit and the alignment is gone. (and so most likely will be the beholder)
Therefore, the longer you keep the grenade in your hand, the more difficult it will become to reinsert the pin.
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August 13, 2024 9:24am
- Damocles11
  
  Seymour will be walking towards the enemy guns alone, Luxon is not up for the fight. ‘Turn the temperature down’ and all that. National are about meek capitulation and we will all pay the price for that.
  
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  August 13, 2024 3:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Roll up, roll up…
New course at Auckland University:

“Epistemological justice: indigenising STEM”

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/john-raine-ideological-illogic-facts-not-feels-please
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August 13, 2024 9:35am
Maggy Wassilieff

Better late than never….

“Current restrictions on gene technology have led to absurd outcomes. In one case local scientists developed a red-fleshed apple, but weren’t allowed to taste test that apple in New Zealand. They had to taste it in the US instead.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2408/S00084/liberalised-ge-laws-set-to-bring-nz-into-the-21st-century.htm
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August 13, 2024 9:45am
thirteenstars

Kamala Harris steals Trump’s “No Tax on Tips” policy, which was a popular winner.

Smart move. If you’re going to copy your opponent, just do it out in the open.

Team Trump better smarten up. Calling Harris dumb and “Cackling Kamala” does nothing to win over swing voters.
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August 13, 2024 10:09am
- marcw
  
  “CBS News attacked former President Donald Trump when he announced his “no tax on tips” policy proposal in June and then suddenly became uncritical of the idea when Vice President Kamala Harris copied Trump on Saturday.”
  
  And even more hypocritically …
  
  “Harris voted in 2022 to pass legislation to allow the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to track down workers’ tips so that they could be taxed.
  
  On August 7, 2022, Harris cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, which provided $80 billion in additional funding to the IRS, which then got to work cracking down on the service industry’s reporting of tips for taxation purposes.”
  
  https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/08/12/cbs-news-attacked-donald-trumps-no-tax-on-tips-proposal-until-kamala-harris-copied-him/
  
  I do hope for the sake of America’s future that Harris is defeated soundly in November, and she takes down these media degenerates.
  
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  August 13, 2024 11:31am
- Inandout
  
  13, even Bill Barr thinks Trump would make a better President than Harris.
  https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/william-barr-donald-trump-would-be-a-better-president-than-kamala-harris/ar-AA1opOpP
  
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  August 13, 2024 12:34pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    He would, but politics is perception and all of us would do well to remember how this country succumbed to Jacindamania, embarrassing itself by credulously falling for every trick in the book, and not very good tricks at that.
    
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    August 13, 2024 12:51pm
    - Conservatarian
      
      In April Barr endorsed Trump for the 2024 presidential race. Trump reacted with an all-time great response:
      
      “…Wow! Former A.G. Bill Barr…has just Endorsed me for President despite the fact that I called him “Weak, Slow Moving, Lethargic, Gutless, and Lazy…Based on the fact that I greatly appreciate his wholehearted Endorsement, I am removing the word “Lethargic” from my statement. Thank you Bill…”
      
      Superb! Nazi fascist existential threats to “Our Democracy” are well known for their great sense of humour.
      
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      August 13, 2024 2:35pm
DimChappie

I have nominated Don Brash, founder of Hobson’s Pledge as New Zealander of the Year because his stand against the iwi coastal land grab. Feel free to use any of it in your own nomination:

https://nzawards.org.nz/nominate/

Don Brash, founder of Hobson’s Pledge.

Dr Brash is a clear national hero in upholding the principle of racial equality which is currently under great threat.

In 2024 he led a campaign to raise awareness of the threat posed by Maori claims to the NZ coast under the Marine and Coastal Area Act. After the Court of Appeal relaxed the test for gaining Customary Marine Title, nearly all New Zealand’s coastline has been claimed, some parts many times over by multiple iwi.
Customary Marine Title grants many benefits of ownership including mineral rights and power of veto over developments. This overrides the great public interest in our beautiful coast. Dr Brash resists any attempt to grant special rights on racial grounds.
Parliament never intended such a great area of coast to fall under customary title and the Coalition Government intends to tighten the criteria for a claim to succeed.
On August 7, Dr Brash ran a prominent front page wraparound advertisement in the NZ Herald newspaper. The ad alerted readers to the danger posed by the multiple iwi claims on our precious coast. Critics said the ad was racist and false, without providing evidence of any factual errors. The ad drew on public, official sources for its content.
After receiving many terrible death threats and amid a massive outcry by Maori radicals and sympathisers, Dr Brash doubled down and bravely tried to run a follow-up ad on August 14. This was rejected by the cowardly NZ Herald following threats by The Maori Party and others with an interest in enriching iwi.
With his selfless stand against the iwi attempt to seize our coast, Dr Brash has made himself a target of intimidating racist protesters and become one of the most hated public figures. Many of his critics have gained greatly from unfair policies favouring Maori. In my opinion his values and actions are on the side of justice and racial equality, yet his campaigning puts him at great risk.
I hope the award of New Zealander of the Year will recognise his effort.
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August 13, 2024 10:09am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes, indeed. He could get 85% of the citizens to vote for him and he still would not win such is the sorry state of this place we call out country.
  
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  August 13, 2024 10:51am
AitchW

Happy World Prosecco Day.
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August 13, 2024 10:13am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump statue made of nails, in Butler.
Seems the artist started it in 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2DHuhZQDHM
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August 13, 2024 10:38am
rouppe

Been a bit of talk about nuclear power in New Zealand and how it won’t happen. I think I’ve seen some argue that our nuclear free legislation prevents it.

So I took a look at the legislation.

It’s clear from the legislation that it seeks to prevent nuclear and biological weapons from our territory. S11 also prevents visits by nuclear powered ships.

So it is clear that there is no legislative block to establishing a nuclear power station here.

As an aside, i noticed that the establishment of the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone (Schedule 1) includes Australia. Which led me to think about AUKUS and those submarines, which are Virginia class, which are nuclear powered.

This reinforces to me that the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone is about weapons, not power or propulsion (except for NZ).

For all of Muldoon’s faults, thank goodness he built those hydro projects back in the day. We need, again, some leadership to think about our energy security.
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August 13, 2024 10:44am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Never was about power or propulsion. I always understood it to be about weapons but as per the usual suspects it become about all nuclear….as in “Nuclear Free New Zealand” cultured, promoted and curated by the Greenies and their sychophants in the MSM.
  
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  August 13, 2024 10:54am
  - kowtow
    
    Greenies ?
    
    It was the Sychophantic Sino Soviet Sisters Section of the Labour party to the fore on that particular stoush.
    
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    August 13, 2024 11:53am
- alwyn.a
  
  A nuclear power station on the Kaipara Harbour was planned and design was underway in the mid-1960’s.
  Work stopped after the Maui gas field was discovered in 1969. Electricity generation was seen as the only practical use for most of the gas.
  Just think Greenies. If gas exploration and development had been banned in 1965 we would never have discovered the Maui field and we would have a nuclear power station running today.
  
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  August 13, 2024 11:33am
  - peterwn
    
    I think it would have been a disaster if NZ had attempted to develop a nuclear power station then because it would have had to be done within a host of Government edicts and bureaucratic and HR constraints. In particular the Ministry of Works would have wanted to be leading development agency as it was with the hydro stations. The project would have probably gone like the WHOOPS [play on WPPSS] nuclear projects in Washington State USA in the 1970’s.
    
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    August 13, 2024 12:41pm
- peterwn
  
  The main one where Rob Muldoon had real influence was Clyde. There was a ‘high dam’ option and a ‘low dam’ option. The old NZE/MWD favoured the ‘low dam’ option to get the thing through constraints and adverse public opinion but Rob Muldoon bit the bullet and committed the Government to the ‘high dam’ option which today is humming along quite happily. OK, apricot orchards were lost, but there were plenty of other places to grow apricots.
  
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  August 13, 2024 12:46pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    Used to carry the dump trucks on the Coastal Trader for that plus the Lada 4×4.s that NZ got in exchange from the Russians and used them down there.
    
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    August 13, 2024 1:40pm
- Handyman
  
  To be precise, the legislation only covers outgoing missiles and not incoming nuclear missiles.
  
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  August 13, 2024 12:50pm
Damocles11

The leftist Herald have now put out a story that it was ‘Maori culture’ that really won Gold at the Olympics. Almost unbelievable, but it’s happened. And why are the MSM running this full court press celebrating any and all things Maori? To ‘spike the guns’ on Seymours upcoming bill of course!
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August 13, 2024 11:15am
- rouppe
  
  I was going to mention the other day about Lisa Carrington.
  
  When she won the first set of medals the whole narrative was about her being a Maori woman. Put me right off.
  
  I haven’t heard her lean on that aspect, but it irritates me that it was promoted heavily at the time, and no other race is lauded. Not Korean (Lydia Ko), not white (Hamish Bond, Eric Murray, Mahe Drysdale), not any other.
  
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  August 13, 2024 12:36pm
  - hookerphil
    
    Sometime in the middle of the night in an interview Eliza McCartney was invited to speak in Maori by Andrew Mulligan – Crowd Goes Wild – which she duly did.
    Might explain her 6th place finish.
    
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    August 13, 2024 1:25pm
oldpark

Journalism is dead . Check out how NZ Herald buckles to the truth and supports blatant racism as they put the boot into Don Brashs’ truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. All he wanted was a paid statement of facts on Racism in NZ .
Who the hell would pay even another penny to a newspaper with such a mickey mouse type of control when they protect and support a type of Racism only emulated in days gone bye in South Africa and parts of Ireland .Shame on NZ Herald as they keep a few unusual type of imported type of racist/ racism bubbling along.
Shades of how “Sinn Fein” in Ireland operated in that country . Yes there certainly in a real flavour of that mentioned cult . now being enacted in NZ .
Go figure and check out the bad actors creating such a division of the population of NZ .Sadly by their actions NZ Herald is helping to expand the propaganda by operating like the Three Monkeys Legend . See all ,Hear all .And say **** All .
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August 13, 2024 12:12pm
- ISeeRed
  
  The only people I know who read the Herald are ageing Boomers in cafes.
  
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  August 13, 2024 1:02pm
- Yabster
  
  hope a lot of subscribers unsubscribe- hit the woksters where it hurts.
  Makes you wonder about advertisers also..
  
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  August 13, 2024 1:55pm
  - Damocles11
    
    There should be an advertiser boycott. Anyone who continues to advertise with the NZ Herald supports censorship and opposes free speech. If the advertisers won’t do the right thing then the general public should boycott those advertisers.
    
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    August 13, 2024 2:43pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Same with 6pm news
      
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      August 13, 2024 4:51pm
Scooter

Body language, right after she says it’s so great to be part of this government, her fists are clinched. She can barely even look at him.

https://x.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/1823140967664537967?t=04a94ESobD5W-MWgdH2LOQ&s=19
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August 13, 2024 12:27pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Have watched this three times now.
  She did look at him.
  She did twist her hands around a bit – but would struggle to say it was fist clenching.
  Maybe just be honest and say you don’t agree with what they are promoting – if that is your position.
  Trying to imply that there is discord there is lame.
  
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  August 13, 2024 12:52pm
  - Ghost
    
    Agree, there is nothing there.
    
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    August 13, 2024 1:00pm
  - Scooter
    
    Side glance at best from Collins, it all looks rather uncomfortable. I don’t care what they are promoting but do think there is discord. But hey it’s the same in any partay.
    
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    August 13, 2024 1:00pm
    - Ghost
      
      You are seeing what you want to see, not what is there.
      
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      August 13, 2024 6:02pm
- hookerphil
  
  I saw that she looked at him 9 times which was about once every 10 seconds.
  No she did not look at him continuously like a lapdog, as we saw during the Ardern years.
  
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  August 13, 2024 1:20pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  I think you are imagining things that are not there.
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:19pm
- mandk
  
  Nonsense.
  
  I have been to several meetings with Collins this year, and she’s obviously happy with what she has been asked to do.
  
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  August 13, 2024 3:42pm
- AitchW
  
  Wow Scooter, what a shame straw clutching isn’t an Olympic sport, we’d have 11 golds now!
  
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  August 13, 2024 5:59pm
Tom Barker

The bookies now clearly favour Harris to win the presidency. So Trumpistas, put all your savings on the Mango Mussolini – you stand to make a mint.
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August 13, 2024 12:40pm
- Conservatarian
  
  Please compare and contrast Trump’s ideology, his presidency 2017-21 and policies for his current campaign with that of Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile. Thanks.
  
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  August 13, 2024 3:16pm
kowtow

Surely these scum should be deported immediately .And never allowed to return.

‘Two light-fingered Canadians have blamed Queenstown’s cost of living for their thievery.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/town%E2%80%99s-high-costs-no-excuse-offenders-told
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August 13, 2024 12:43pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  Yes they should. They get a pretty good exchange rate coming here with their CAD dollars. Normally 80 cents CAD buys one of our dollars
  
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  August 13, 2024 4:03pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “Robert’s counsel, Annaliese Carlaw, said the couple had miscalculated the cost of living in Queenstown when they arrived five months ago.”
    
    Really? 5 minutes looking at rental prices on websites would have told them the cost of living there. Plenty of other places in New Zealand they could have based themselves with much cheaper living costs.
    
    With convictions in New Zealand they will not be allowed back.
    
    I’m not sure how the law work re their punishment. They have been sentenced to fines and community service. IIRC they need to be squared away before they are allowed to leave New Zealand.
    
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    August 13, 2024 4:42pm
Colville

Question for power grid wonks….! (or people who remember their maths ! 🙂 )

NZ uses 43,000 GWh….?
A Rolls Royce SMR is 470 MWe.

so 0.47 x 24 x 365 = 4100 so 9% of our useage at 100% capacity??

So we would want 3 – 5 of them??
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August 13, 2024 1:20pm
thirteenstars

Another stabbing of a child in the UK, an 11-year-old girl and her mother :

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/man-arrested-after-two-stabbed-londons-leicester-square-police-say-2024-08-12/

Never let a good emergency go to waste, though, because this kind commentary is a call for online censorship:

Britain’s police forces remain on high alert after days of riots earlier this month, which were triggered by false online posts wrongly identifying the suspected killer of three girls in northern England as an Islamist migrant.

No, the perpetrators of violence caused the riots, not the people who posted online. Further, the protests and the violence has come after many years of frustration and political hand-waving over illegal immigration and very high levels of legal immigration.
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August 13, 2024 1:37pm
Damocles11

Far out. 🤦🏻‍♂️

https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/08/13/book-of-the-week-good-non-maori-fragile-non-maori/

‘Book of the Week: Good non-Māori, fragile non-Māori
– Philip Temple reviews a new book that urges non-Māori to get to grips with the Māori world

Avril Bell makes the purpose of her book Becoming Tangata Tiriti: Working with Māori, Honouring the Treaty clear from the outset. She hopes that the “voices in this work harmonise with the voices of Māori, adding to the range and volume of the decolonising/indigenising call.” For the 12 non-Māori people interviewed, becoming allies to Māori is an article of faith. “We are all implicated and entangled in the structures and systems of our society, and to the degree that they continue colonial dynamics, they implicate us in colonialism.” To become “unimplicated” requires non-Māori to both understand and engage better with Māori and, critically, to accept current interpretations of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and become tangata tiriti in partnership with tangata whenua. Decolonisation has to be Māori-led and everyone else has “their own work to do transforming the colonial systems and views that get in the way.” No matter where one stands on this issue, this presents as a massive task.’
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August 13, 2024 1:46pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Drivel – childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking; nonsense; twaddle.
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:46pm
- Conservatarian
  
  Good grief. These people are calling out for the People’s Democratic Republic of Aotearoa and are ready to begin the struggle sessions and cultural revolution.
  
  “Unimplicated”
  “colonial dynamics”
  “allies to Maori”
  “tangata tiriti in partnership with tangata whenua.”
  
  We are in the grip of a communist insurgency, with some sections of the “independent” media popping out of foxholes firing at us.
  
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  August 13, 2024 2:52pm
- Conservatarian
  
  The same author, Philip Temple, referred to Ron Crosby’s disbelief at the Ministry of Education’s 2021 draft NZ history curriculum failing to cover the 1806-45 Musket Wars. Crosby is a barrister, Musket Wars historian and Waitangi Tribunal member who published his 430-page Musket Wars book more than 20 years ago.
  
  An excerpt from https://newsroom.co.nz/2021/05/25/telling-it-like-it-was-the-timid-curriculum/:
  
  ‘Utu kept the wars going for close on 30 years until all iwi were equally musket-armed (creating a kind of early version of the MAD doctrine, mutually assured destruction). Missionary Christian values also became more and more influential, and were followed by the introduction of British principles of law and order after the Treaty of Waitangi.
  
  Utu is only one aspect that makes The Forgotten Wars a difficult read. There is betrayal, treachery, needless massacre, endless cannibalism and the killing of prisoners. Te Rauparaha ordered some of his prisoners to prepare an umu, then killed and cooked them. In 1832, Tainui’s Te Wherowhero “used the famed Waikato mere, Whakarewa” to personally execute 350 captives in Taranaki. But Te Awaitaia took over when Te Wherowhero “became too tired to continue the grim task”. Phew.’
  
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  August 13, 2024 3:04pm
  - Damocles11
    
    Ghastly. Yet Captain John Fane Charles Hamilton had his bronze statue removed from public display in Hamilton in 2020, for committing the grave sin of being killed at the Battle of Gate Pa. He wasn’t planning on eating anyone.
    
    ‘Chief executive Richard Briggs said it had become clear the statue was likely to be vandalised.’
    
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    August 13, 2024 4:22pm
- rouppe
  
  adding to the range and volume of the decolonising/indigenising call.
  
  She’s suggesting we should all “indigenise”? There is no way that Rawiri Waititi and Debbie Ngarewa-Packer will ever accept me as indigenous.
  
  So she is simply calling for everyone to capitulate.
  
  My response to that is “distant cough”. I think another word for “distant” is “far”.
  
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  August 13, 2024 4:08pm
- Jake Dee
  
  Interesting, I mean the book looks God awful, but the cultural trend is interesting (but also God awful).
  To quote
  “Avril Bell makes the purpose of her book Becoming Tangata Tiriti: Working with Māori, Honouring the Treaty clear from the outset. She hopes that the “voices in this work harmonise with the voices of Māori, adding to the range and volume of the decolonising/indigenising call.”
  
  “white fragility” “Pākehā are “privileged” by living and working within the familiarity of the dominant system”
  
  These are all concepts directly lifted from foreigner writers like Robin de Angelo and Ibrahim X Kendi and slightly adapted to a New Zealand idiom by a Pākehā New Zealander and an honorary associate professor of sociology at the University of Auckland.
  From one point of view, it’s all sadly predictable and from another perspective it’s shockingly bold and radical. A white acolyte of a foreign ideology proselytizing New Zealanders and then having such an amazing lack of self-awareness that she can actually call it “decolonising/indigenising”.
  This dovetails rather nicely with a comment I just left at Bassett Brash & Hide under “JOHN RAINE: Ideological Illogic – Facts Not Feels, Please”.
  Where I said that if you run an indiginisation program you will become LESS indigenous than when you started and MORE under the influence of neo-colonial cultural imperialism.
  
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  August 13, 2024 4:11pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  “……and engage better with Māori and, critically, to accept current interpretations of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and become tangata tiriti in partnership with tangata whenua.”
  
  And there you have it. Unless this issue is settled once and for all by a referendum, it is going to be a festering sore in New Zealand forever. Migrants are not going to come here and agree to be “tangata tiriti”.
  
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  August 13, 2024 4:48pm
- John Loveridge
  
  Avril Bell can fuck off.
  
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  August 13, 2024 5:36pm
Chuck Bird

I just finished watching the Musk & Trump interview live. It should be on YouTube soon. Musk who says he has been a Democrat in the past now endorses Trump. It was about 2 hrs long but worth the viewing.
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August 13, 2024 2:55pm
- Steve Todd
  
  Oh, dear: “Trump slurs through UNHINGED Twitter interview with Elon Musk.”
  
  Here’s the first reaction I’ve seen to the interview, Chuck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=926YNdAXQkI. It’s only 7 minutes.
  
  Among other things, Brian Tyler Cohen describes it as a “rambling diatribe of an interview” — an “unforced error” for Trump; in other words, another self-inflicted disaster.
  
  See Jen Psaki interview him on her show, at 6 minutes.
  
  Musk tried several times to end the interview. Hilarious.
  
  (I can’t wait for the debates!)
  
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  August 13, 2024 5:32pm
  - Conservatarian
    
    Do you mean Democrat operative and former Biden regime chief liar Jen Psaki aka Ginger Goebbels?
    
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    August 13, 2024 7:25pm
MCōs

These are trying times so here’s an antidote to the never ending funding cuts, surliness, supermarket rage, broken hospital machinery, rates rises, low lake levels, congestion charges, broken pipes, low wool prices, online scams
https://instagram.com/p/C-l5WyFgQ-V/
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August 13, 2024 3:05pm
Ghost

Whoops, I guess this isn’t going to go down very well

The Government is significantly scaling back Te Arawhiti, the office of Māori-Crown Relations.

Sources with knowledge of the proposal told Stuff the Government was “effectively closing” the department, which is the Government’s lead coordinator for iwi and Māori organisations. Māori-Crown Relations Minister Tama Potaka rejected that characterisation, when Stuff put that to his office on Tuesday.

He went on to issue a statement confirming a major restructure of Te Arawhiti, which would strip it back to deal only with negotiating Treaty settlements and administering the Marine and Coastal Area Act.

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August 13, 2024 3:36pm
Bobba Fret

They really have their panties in a twist over at The Standard regarding the new traffic light beneficiary system. I guess that means it must be a good idea.
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August 13, 2024 4:00pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Thanks – I recently went for a visit. That is enough for another two years. As far as I can tell, it is 25 or so communists all agreeing with each other. They are lead by a communist named “Lynn Prentice” who is male. He claims that he has amazing IT skills. He demonstrates anger management issues, and he bans people who are not communists from commenting, usually preceded by a foul mouthed bad tempered tirade.
  
  Does that sum up that blog site, or am I being unfair?
  
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  August 13, 2024 4:33pm
  - Bobba Fret
    
    That absolutely sums up the Standard! Yes I reckon you are right and they are down to about 25 hard core communists.
    
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    August 13, 2024 4:56pm
Steve Todd

Nearly three weeks ago, now, here: https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/07/general_debate_25_july_2024.html/comment-page-1#comment-3594877, I said that it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump “completely unravels over the next few months, as he sees his second term begin to slip away from him.” (Incidentally, this was also the comment where I first said that I can’t wait for the debates.)

Well, well, well. See here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Zj5tFqog0, Inside with Jen Psaki on MSNBC, from 7 minutes, where former White House Deputy Press Secretary and Trump aide, Sarah Matthews, says exactly the same thing (except, where I said unravel, she says spiral).

Also, see from the start, where Trump accused Kamala of cheating, over crowd side, and then where Jen informs her viewers that Trump lied 162 times in 64 minutes during his Mar-A-Lago rant last week.

At 5 minutes, George Conway analyses Trump.

Then, see at 13 minutes Conway’s latest Anti-Psychopath PAC ad, and why he has established this PAC.

It’s only 15 minutes — well worth your time.

(I can’t wait for the debates!)
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August 13, 2024 4:09pm
- Conservatarian
  
  Again, do you mean Democrat operative and former Biden regime chief liar Jen Psaki aka Ginger Goebbels?
  
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  August 13, 2024 7:26pm
All_on_Red

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+Number+of+times+Jen+Psaki+lied&atb=v372-1&t=chromentp&ia=web

Too many to post so just look at the link
Having to reprint her Book must have been embarrassing
Sooooo funny
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August 13, 2024 4:22pm
kevn

Are you here Maggie Pie?
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August 13, 2024 4:52pm
- Jethrod
  
  She’s had a little quiet time today, for being norty yesterday.
  
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  August 13, 2024 5:07pm
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    Maggie… I have had to join X (twitter).
    
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    August 13, 2024 7:38pm
- MCōs
  
  Banned
  
  [Mod – just a note, when given a time out, please check your spam folder for a password reset after your ban is up. Her account was unlocked at midnight]
  
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  August 13, 2024 5:08pm
AitchW

It would appear that at least one resident downticker is either in KB choky or out of internet range.
Lots of posts with no downticks. Very odd.
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August 13, 2024 5:53pm
- Ghost
  
  Interesting observation, looks like a down ticker has been outed……
  
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  August 13, 2024 6:11pm
Ghost

This is disturbing

Lollies containing a “potentially lethal dose” of methamphetamine were distributed in food parcels from the Auckland City Mission after they were donated by a member of the public.

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