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BananaLlama

Is it true that the Hamilton District Court under the recommendation of Oranga Tamariki and the SAFE program have just discharged a Pedophile without conviction despite repeated sexual assaults against a minor who was under the age of 12.
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August 1, 2024 8:01am
- BananaLlama
  
  If DPF is interested i will tell my story i am not under a gag order and the Pedophile is not under name suppression i just want to make sure Kiwiblog wont get in trouble first.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    If the information is available on the google machine then I don’t see any problem, but it is really for the Mods and DPF to answer.
    An email to DPF with some of the content would be an idea. Why not do an anonymous post for DPF to post if he wishes. There is a tip email ad somewhere.
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:19am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Here is a starting point BananaLlama:
      editor@kiwiblog.co.nz for general use, tip offs, story suggestions etc
      
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      August 1, 2024 9:26am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Ngati Raukawa used to be a Waikato iwi, until they ‘migrated’ south with Te Raparaha in the 1820s.

Not a word on the locals they ‘displaced’ on arrival in the Horowhenua.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/te-ao-maori/350358774/ngati-raukawa-did-not-cede-sovereignty-tribunal-told
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August 1, 2024 8:05am
- Southtop2
  
  I find this an interesting area and needs to be exposed as some claims are farcical e.g. Some top of the south iwi are holding land claims and had arrived in the region 20-30 years before many European ancestors. They too were chased out of the Waikato and made their way down the west coast of the north island and eventually crossed the ditch.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:44am
  - lifesgood
    
    And the much lauded Ngati Whatua were a tribe from Kaipara that chased the Maori out of Auckland down to the Waikato. It beats me that they have claimed downtown Auckland, even reclaimed land that didn’t exist before Europeans arrived. I can’t understand why the powers that be don’t read their history before being magnanimous with the land belonging to all NZers.
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:35am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trouble for Kamala Harris: She’s an Anchor Baby and Not Eligible to be POTUS?
Note, Obama got away with it twice.
Interesting bit about the writing of the 14th Amendment, and deporting slave babies to Africa.

https://rightsideoffers.com/thepoliticalmovement/trump-should-challenge-kamala-harriss-eligibility-to-run-for-president/?
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August 1, 2024 8:09am
- Nukuleka
  
  Please don’t go down these ridiculously absurd rabbit holes. They not only reflect badly on you but tarnish the credibility of KB as a whole. Just pointless foolishness.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No more foolish than the crap the left come up with about Trump. It is different the left to do it?
    It will be tit for tat all the way to the Election.
    But hey Nukuleka, you are entitled to your own free speech. So far we all still have it right?
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:18am
    - Damocles11
      
      You’ve got tunnel vision Steve.
      Daily it’s the boring US stuff attempting to turn this place into ‘Breitbart II’, plus your Julian Batchelor stuff which I don’t mind but others seem to think is repetitive.
      
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      August 1, 2024 8:24am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I don’t find the US Election stuff boring.
        Should I watch continuous repeats of TV1 News, Seven not so Sharp, Breakfast, Sunday, 20/20, Q+A, etc etc? No thanks, they are all dribble, interviewing themselves.
        There is always the option to scroll. I don’t force people to read my comments.
        
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        August 1, 2024 9:17am
    - leoj
      
      Keep going Steve.
      
      [Mod – abuse deleted]
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:32am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Here is a silly “rabbit hole.”
    ‘Farts in a Jar’ Entrepreneur is Dating a US Senator and We’re Wondering Who It Is.
    Before getting carried away have a look at her net worth. Nice job if you can get it.
    
    https://rightsideoffers.com/thepoliticalmovement/farts-in-a-jar-entrepreneur-is-dating-a-us-senator-and-were-wondering-who-it-is/?
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:29am
    - peterwn
      
      Laws subordinate to the Constitution cannot modify the Constitution. The US President must be a ‘natural born citizen’. If the person is born on USA soil that person is eligible to be President – end of matter.
      
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      August 1, 2024 9:02am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        As I said, it is tit for tat.
        The 14th is a joke at the southern border regarding pregnant women illegal immigrants. No wonder the Democrats will not close it.
        
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        August 1, 2024 9:38am
  - imalwaysright
    
    “Please don’t go down these ridiculously absurd rabbit holes”
    
    What is “ridiculously absurd” about questioning her eligibility?
    The rules are fairly specific, although the passage of time has introduced some ambiguity due to changing definitions and social perceptions.
    That in itself is a fair reason to test her eligibility.
    The other candidates have met the criteria, so should she.
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:30am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Born in the US means citizenship at 21, but it is just a tit for tat about Kamala’s parents not being citizens, just visitors.
      Seems I have rattled the cages of a few here. They are upset for some reason.
      As I said above, I do not force anyone to read my comments. I have free speech and so do they.
      
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      August 1, 2024 9:44am
      - david in Aus
        
        Born in the US means that. You are not born at 21, especially if the constitution says you are a citizen if you are born in the US.
        
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        August 1, 2024 9:49am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @david,
        There is a lot of confusing information on the google machine. By confusing I mean the different wording. Wherever I saw it the wording was a person born in the US applied for their citizenship when they turn 21. That is obviously wrong after searching some more.
        
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        August 1, 2024 10:39am
    - peterwn
      
      The meaning of terms in the Constitution would be as when the Constitution became effective in 1787 or its amendments (and the 14th Amendment is irrelevant in this instance). Any laws or changes of customary views would be irrelevant as interpretation aids. The only organisation which can interpret the meaning of the Constitution is the Supreme Court.
      So Article 2 Section 1 means just what it says. The concept that someone could be born in the USA but not be a citizen may be relevant for immigration purposes but has no place in interpreting the Constitution. This is especially as the 14 year living in USA requirement in Article 2 would rule out those who happened to be born in USA but never lived in the USA for any length of time.
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:43am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    I agree with you. Another gutter-press claim that we see too often on this site (and on other right-leaning sites) is that Michelle Obama is a man.
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:05am
    - Damocles11
      
      Michelle Obama is apparently a man, and Macron’s wife is also apparently a man. Both these claims are patently absurd. Both women have given birth to multiple children. We just have to accept that the right includes plenty of idiots just as the left does.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:47am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Candace Owens ran an item yesterday claiming that Macron married a man. That was the last straw for me after her anti birth control and anti vaccine idiocy.
        
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        August 1, 2024 1:08pm
- p5
  
  Anchor babies are allowed to be president, America has birthright citizenship.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:47am
  - cmm
    
    Yup.
    
    But citizenship itself is not enough to run for president.
    Naturalised citizens cannot become president.
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:56am
    - p5
      
      True, but any anchor baby is a “natural born citizen” and allowed to run.
      
      This is moot regardless as Harris is not an anchor baby.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:40am
- david in Aus
  
  Whack job is a whack job, left or right.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:46am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Barack Obama was not an anchor baby.
  Kamala Harris is not an anchor baby.
  
  To subscribe to or promote these ridiculous theories is wrong.
  
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  August 1, 2024 12:51pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Obama was a foreigner. Covid vaccines kill millions.
  
  Any other conspiracy theories you want to share.
  
  It is this crap that is wrecking this blog.
  
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  August 1, 2024 1:05pm
Scooter

The Polkinghorne case brings back memories of the Peter Plumley Walker case in 1989, both involved sex workers, ropes, in Remuera and oddly both with initials PP. Would make for a good NZ version of Cluedo.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/76969412/flashback-the-umpire-the-dominatrix-the-falls-and-the-ill-timed-visit
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August 1, 2024 8:12am
- Ipanema69
  
  It would appear that his wife was standing between him and a sex and drugs bender type life style.
  
  I would like to know when the meth addiction started. That s*** seems to destroy everything it touches.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “That s*** seems to destroy everything it touches.”
    Yes it does, I have seen it. Thing is the people it involves think meth is quite normal.
    The just plod along, unemployed, no ambitions, they don’t even own a shitbox car. You can’t help someone if they won’t help themselves.
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:51am
    - imalwaysright
      
      S.O
      I’ve heard that the meth scourge affects all levels of society from Parliament and upwards.
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:10am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yes it does. People from all walks of life from the pond dweller to the the very highly paid.
        
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        August 1, 2024 10:18am
    - lifesgood
      
      The scary thing is that he was still employed as an eye surgeon while living his drug addled, debauched life style. Blooming heck, who would want someone like that operataing on their eyes?
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:38am
      - trout
        
        I benefited from Philip’s extraordinary surgical skills shortly before his demise. He was totally professional and attentive. A separate life I guess.
        
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        August 1, 2024 11:18am
      - peterwn
        
        He would have kept his drug use under strict control, otherwise his impairment would have been obvious to his partners at the eye clinic. Anyway he may not have used drugs personally (it will be interesting to see how that aspect unfolds).
        
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        August 1, 2024 1:31pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @trout,
        Maybe meth enhanced his working method?
        Who knows? I would never go near it. The bad shit of the 60s turned me off drugs forever.
        Here we go – the left will be at me. “alcohol is a drug Steve.” Yes, but after having drinkies for 55+ years I have not let it destroy my life and family.
        
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        August 1, 2024 1:49pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      The high is apparently so good, it’s easy to leave everything else in the dust, including all empathy for other human beings.
      
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      August 1, 2024 8:27pm
- kowtow
  
  Amazing really , NZME Herald, ( print version) kick off with a hiss and a roar , first day of trial , front page headlines , photos lurid details and then today , nothing .
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:24am
  - fernglas
    
    That’s because most trials are very boring and full of detail, which doesn’t read well in short form journalism
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:52pm
Yabster

Don Brash and some old National Party members maybe getting a knock on the door from pc plod– Police are being trained to spot Hate speech online (even though there is no law) examples given are “Kiwi not Iwi”(once a National Party campaign slogan), “There are only Two Genders” – Who is driving this at NZ Police? – I suggest we all email Mark Mitchell and ask him…
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August 1, 2024 8:13am
- pdm
  
  Good thinking Yabster.
  
  Here is his email address:
  Mark.Mitchell@parliament.govt.nz.
  
  I will do so in a few minutes.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Police are trained like 1930s Germany?
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:53am
  - peterwn
    
    And 1984 ‘thinkpol’ (newspeak for Thought Police). If there was all this hate speech nonsense in the mid 1940’s George Orwell would have worked this into 1984 as well.
    
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    August 1, 2024 1:35pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Here is the NZ Police website page on Hate motivated crime.
  
  I don’t think there is anyone in the country who would not be eligible to make a complaint.
  
  They tried this in Scotland earlier this year and the police received 7000 complaints in the first week just about the First Minister!
  (He’s not FM anymore!)
  https://www.police.govt.nz/advice-services/advice-victims/hate-motivated-crime?nondesktop
  
  This could backfire big time
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:37am
Matt Long

The real reason why Unions stridently oppose Charter Schools, hint, it’s not because they care about Children or Education standards.
“The Education and Training Amendment Act was introduced to Parliament earlier than expected, according to NZEI Te Riu Roa, and will allow underperforming state schools to convert to charter schools.

The Post Primary Teachers’ (PPTA) Association president Chris Abercrombie said the act contained “unpleasant details” about the plans.

The legislation proposes that public schools that convert to charter are forcing teachers to either transfer or resign, he said.”
Yes unions are concerned that incompetent teachers might be sacked to improve teaching standards, and that if Charter schools are successful, state schools might follow suit.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/northland-education-leaders-worry-for-future-of-public-education-as-charter-schools-considered/ar-BB1piWWd
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August 1, 2024 8:14am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Only in the Public Sector you can get a job for life no matter how useless you are. A nice paying job too! When things don’t work just change the name of the organisation, re-designate it’s targets.
  The fact that all of NZ suffers is irrelevant.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:23am
- peterwn
  
  Translated – education leaders worry that parents may get increased control over schools.
  Interestingly Hipkins wanted to overturn the present school system which has operated under the Tomorrows Schools system for many years. His idea was a hierarchy of managers etc etc. However he faced significant political opposition from parents and had to give it away.
  The fear among the Left and teaching unions is Charter Schools would gain sufficient momentum as to make them politically difficult to dislodge. That is why David Seymour has successfully pushed for early legislation so the first charter schools will be open next year and the system will have 9 to 12 years to get sufficiently entrenched.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:41am
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like the piggy troughs are drying up:

One of the founding partners in SenateSHJ, Tracey Bridges, also caused controversy because she was also employed part-time in Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s Beehive office as a spin-doctor while still maintaining SenateHJ business clients. This came to light because she was also undertaking political commentary as a regular participant on RNZ. The problem was that Bridges failed to disclose she was working for Labour while giving her analysis of the politics of the day.

https://democracyproject.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-top-lobbying
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August 1, 2024 8:19am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Conflict of interest ethics, anyone?
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:34am
- peterwn
  
  So SenateSHJ seemed to be a political tool of the Labour Party and had got pretty entrenched in Government affairs even to the extent of having a branch embedded in MBIE in Stout Street. Not surprising that business dried up when the government changed.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:08am
  - kowtow
    
    Snout Street.
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:01am
- imalwaysright
  
  Makes you wonder if adern was compromised or were Bridges clients compromised?
  
  It could be that there was no dirty dealing at all, but, with adern in the mix, that’s unlikely.
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The thing with Ardern was, she was too dumb to realise.
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:39am
    - imalwaysright
      
      She played with her crayons in the corner. Apparently her diet consisted of Thriftee and hundreds and thousands sandwiches.
      
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      August 1, 2024 12:08pm
Damocles11

A lot of the stuff posted about US politics is stuff you’ll find online in 5 seconds if you have any interest in current affairs. If people have genuinely interesting non conspiracy theory stuff that isn’t commonly known and isn’t just incessant “I love Trump” or “I hate the Dems” cheerleading, then maybe they should post that. Otherwise we are just always wading through the US c-rap to get to the relevant and interesting revelations about what is occurring here in NZ.
It’s KB, not USB.
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August 1, 2024 8:20am
- kevn
  
  You won’t read this type of comment in the horrid…
  https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kamala-harris-californication-america
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:13am
  - greybeard
    
    Luxon has a soft spot for California, doesn’t he ?
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:33am
    - peterwn
      
      Well, LAX and SFO are significant destinations for Air NZ so it is not surprising that he has a soft spot for California and for Canada from his Unilever days.
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:48am
    - Ghost
      
      California is important to NZ, it is the largest importer of NZ goods in the USA
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:55am
      - Don Beckett
        
        California’s ports are the closest to NZ to receive our imports to the whole USA.
        
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        August 1, 2024 12:44pm
- RoboRob
  
  I understand the frustration some might have with US political discussion. But I and obviously many others here are deeply interested in the events in the US. With this being an election year it is not un reasonable for increased discussion around what’s happening there.
  
  The things that are happening there are highly uncommon in US (and world) politics. How often do one term presidents re contest for presidency? How often are candidates heavily challenged in court? How often does a sitting president appear to have dementia? How often is the person apparently forced to not run again? Did Kamala threaten to invoke the 25th amendment if he didn’t resign? How often does a ‘black’ woman stand for president? How common is an assassination attempt on a presidential candidate?
  
  There are just so many uncommon and interesting events occurring in the US that it is hard to be disinterested. Couple that with the obvious fact that NZ is heavily influenced by US culture, many trends such as DEI directly impact us here and most NZers are heavily impacted financially through investments in the US economy. I don’t think it is unreasonable at all for us to discuss events in the US.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:27am
  - Ghost
    
    I think there is a difference between having an interest and the constant fake rubbish Steve posts. Post factual stories, not the rubbish he posts. He attacks people who post anything factual about trump, but he constantly posts fake shit
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:35am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It’s simple Ghost, don’t read my comments if you don’t like them.
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:53am
      - Ghost
        
        Actually it is simple, stop posting crap that is fake and post factual articles. You’d be the first person having a bitch if someone was posting the sort of crap you do against trump.
        
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        August 1, 2024 10:57am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @Ghost,
        Don’t worry, they come at me on Facebook. Trolling them is fun, especially relatives LOL!
        
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        August 1, 2024 1:52pm
  - Lance
    
    Maybe DPF could start a new thread each day, alongside General Debate to assign US ‘commentary’ away from sane conversation.
    Maybe it could be labelled “unhinged US ad-hominin and strawman politics sandpit”
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:45am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Politics is downstream of culture, and these days our culture is online and shared. All the craziness in the US, the UK, Canada and Australia has echoes here. So it is worth keeping an eye on. And the crazy left is an international movement. Weird stuff they do elsewhere shows up here.
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:57am
    - Damocles11
      
      Worth keeping an eye on, but a lot of it is along the lines of ‘Biden has dementia’, ‘Kamala cackles’, and ‘go Trumpy!’. You hear it once, that’s enough. Stop ramming the cheerleading down throats on a daily basis.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:51am
      - NothingLeft
        
        The cross-over and analogues we see in the cultural issues in play in elections all over the west are deeply interesting to many, as they are sign posts to likely evolution of NZ’s governance and economy and the global struggle that is being fought by some against the rising tide of repressive left-aligned govt.
        
        So how about let those that are interested discuss and ignore it if it isn’t for you.
        
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        August 1, 2024 12:23pm
      - Damocles11
        
        Analogues of what? We have someone with dementia running our country? Someone here cackles? The vacuous posts clutter up the page on a daily basis, meaning constant scrolling to find interesting stuff about what is happening here in New Zealand.
        
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        August 1, 2024 12:37pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    We all should be interested. Because Harris as Prez would be like Swarbrick being pm here. The world is already unsafe because Biden is so weak, people should be very careful what they wish for.
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:41am
    - Damocles11
      
      Vacuous comment, surely the gist of your comment has posted at least 100 times before.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:52am
  - All_on_Red
    
    “How often does a ‘black’ woman stand for president? ”
    Black? Really?
    
    Scott (Reporter) “Do you believe VP Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a Black woman?”
    
    Trump “Well, I can say, maybe it’s a little bit different. I’ve known her for a long time indirectly, not directly so much. She was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn’t know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn, “Black,” and now she wants to be known as Black. So, I don’t know, is she Indian or is she Black?”
    Lol
    https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2024/07/31/black-journalists-at-the-nabj-try-to-hold-trump-accountable-it-goes-as-well-as-expected-n2177595
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:34pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      She’s also white.
      
      If elected, Kamala would be the first white female President.
      
      Confusing, isn’t it.
      
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      August 1, 2024 12:46pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    The scariest element of the US election is the level of interference from Big Tech and MSM propagandizing against Trump. Like him or not its absolutely corrosive to functioning of democracy to have media acting as mouthpieces and promoters of one side or candidate. A problem we share in NZ with Anti-NAct partisan bias in legacy media.
    
    An example for today (Elon does google search for Trump rally that only returns results for Kamala): https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1818708870635946411
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:57pm
  - Taieri
    
    Actually it is simple, stop posting crap that is fake and post factual articles.
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    All of us, from time to time, post things that others consider “crap”. This is the nature of a “general debate”. I think that Steve overdoes it with certain things, but it’s his right as long as the blog Owner tolerates it. It’s not compulsory to read Steve’s posts or to react to them. At the end of the day it’s up to David Farrar to decide what is and what isn’t “crap” and what should or shouldn’t be published here.
    
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    August 1, 2024 1:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Another big trough dries up
(and congratulations to Paula Penfold for following this story)

Now, a Stuff investigation can reveal complaints from former staff about financial mismanagement, nepotism, bullying, and intimidation, while its long-time boss says “over-corporatisation” is to blame.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350361542/mysterious-and-quiet-closure-once-loud-proud-charity
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August 1, 2024 8:23am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Yes, good journalism there. Isn’t it amazing that this stuff is now coming to light. Makes you wonder whether stories like this were simply not followed up on during the Jacindamania years due to lack of inclination on behalf of the journalists, or whether the stories were written but were spiked by management with an eye on the Govt advertising revenue & the bottom line.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:38am
- kowtow
  
  Looks like “financial mismanagement” is a te media paahti euphemism for the “C” that Aunty Helen said doesn’t exist in NZ .
  
  Corruption.
  
  And it’s rampant . See the next story on organised crime infiltrating Customs and drug importation and we’ve seen it with vehicle warranting and recently with police and other public servants unauthorised access to private personal information.
  
  Meanwhile the Nats want an online firearms register .
  
  The public is now unsafe at the hands of the state.In so many ways.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:52am
  - artemisia
    
    A few years back the government funded providers of problem gambling services. Funding was for hundreds of clients but several had fewer than 20, at least one in Hamilton fewer than 10.
    
    Never heard that any had to pay back any of the funding, maybe I just missed that. Or maybe not.
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:50pm
- John Loveridge
  
  An enormous amount of government money goes to these nebulous trusts with very little oversight and accountability. Loads of them in the Far North, where I come from. But there is no corruption in New Zealand…
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:34am
Matt Long

Auckland Council votes against the government policy of higher speed limits.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-council-votes-against-higher-road-speed-limits-opposing-governments-plan/VVRYMZHUDFCHZAQQM3FY7W34OQ/
Taranaki Regional Council opposes government reining in The Mana O Te Wai excesses.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/te-mana-o-te-wai-downgrade-might-backfire-warns-council/AF7LH6LVMFGPDBYLK3TBXQVUL4/
Councils oppose democratic procedure in race based wards.
https://waateanews.com/2024/07/31/local-government-loses-maori-ward-fight/
I know it’s tempting to see patterns where none exist, but I wonder if any councils saw fit to poll their residents on any of these issues?
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August 1, 2024 8:25am
igm

The vile and envious editorial policy continues.
https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350362509/christopher-luxon-puts-investment-property-market
How about at look at portfolios of Willie Jackson, et al?
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August 1, 2024 8:26am
- pdm
  
  `The vile and envious editorial policy continues.’
  
  My thoughts exactly igm.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:01am
Maggie Pie

This sounds terrifying!

‘Customs intelligence report reveals Mexican cartels and Asian organized crime gangs remain the biggest importers of drugs into New Zealand, as well as local crime groups like the Comancheros and the Banditos.

Figures show that in the last five months of this year, 2.3 tonnes of illegal drugs were seized by Customs front line officers at the NZ border…’

– NZH (1 Aug 24)

So goodness knows whats actually getting thru 🙁
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August 1, 2024 8:30am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Same way it has always come in, CONTAINERS.
  
  There is now ay they can inspect every container coming into the country.
  
  Also chucking parcels off ships with GPS beacons to be picked up by a small vessel.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:36am
  - pdm
    
    mp – don’t The Mexicans have an agent ensconsed in a Political Party in New Zealand. Scruffy joker with a funny accent.
    
    I would swear that I heard Todd McClay mention him a couple of days ago.
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:04am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Mexican drug lord spy !
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:46am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Mexicans, eh?
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:38am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Asians as well 🙁
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:55am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Now, now Maggie Pie
  
  We mustn’t exhibit any Mexican xenophobia.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:20am
  - kowtow
    
    Funny though how the extreme left can call constantly for decolonisation blame every societal ill on “cis white males” etc which is an explicit exhibition of hatred against , well basically everyone , and is irrational at any event and te media paahti never question or take umbrage at that particular form of xenophobia .
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:58am
Pope Punctilious II

Gerry Brownlee needs to step up as speaker. Some of the comments directed at ACT and National Maaori MPs are on the nose.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/523787/act-accuses-speaker-of-failing-to-address-racial-harassment-in-parliament
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August 1, 2024 9:10am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I think Luxon needs to have a quiet word to Brownlee (is he able to?). It’s pretty embarrassing when you appoint a speaker and they really are not doing a good job.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:45am
  - igm
    
    Bobba: Not doing a good job . . . he is a total disaster and unfit for purpose. Is he now having te reo lessons?
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:44am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      I was going for constructive criticism as I’m hoping Gerry can change and improve. I think Mallard was a total disaster and unfit for purpose as you put it (and nasty and biased as well), but am willing to give G a chance to improve (perhaps after a performance review from Luxon if that is allowed).
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:46am
  - RoboRob
    
    I am sure the political wonks here will disagree with me but I would say ‘absolutely he can’.
    
    Even if the rules say the speaker is completely impartial, its not like the ‘G’ is no longer part of National and doen’t talk to anyone.
    
    I would think the speaker can solict advice and guidence from whomever they choose. If Hipkins wanted to make suggestions to big G I am sure he could too. G might even take it on board.
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:48am
    - pdm
      
      Yep – maybe Adrian Rurawhe would be better than Hipkins.
      
      Another option would be to give the best Speaker in recent times Lockwood-Smith a call – he may be the best bet I think,
      
      Personally I enjoy `Big Gerrys” relaxed manner at QT most of the time but, he has to get tougher on some of the crap that spews from some members mouth. He could also sit Peters down a bit quicker when he jumps up with pointless questions or Points of Orders.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:29am
  - septic skeptic
    
    While there is certainly a place for Brownlee’s good humored persuasion he appears to lack the ability to draw a line in the sand show that he is in firm control.
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:02am
    - pdm
      
      Apart from yesterday when maybe he overdid it slightly.
      
      In his defence though I thought Seymour got `up his nose’ right at the start. Have a look at my opinion here:
      https://nominister.wordpress.com/2024/08/01/a-good-start-gerry-brownlee-but/
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:32am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Speaker is beyond reproach, no Luxon can not able to have a word
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:04pm
    - Damocles11
      
      If he can talk to Golly G at a cafe then I am sure he and Luxon have conversations as well.
      
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      August 1, 2024 12:34pm
- Swifty
  
  Nasty bullying lefties.
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:02am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Are there any other kind?
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:04am
- Gravelroad
  
  Newstalkzb (Kerre Woodham) today has had a real go about this bullying, racist attack on Ms Chour.
  Speaker of the House unwilling or unable to do anything about it apparently.
  Ms Chour, a very capable and experienced person, but not a good enough Maori to be admired.
  Shame on Labour and TPM for this attack, but typical of their childish rhetoric.
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:13am
  - Ghost
    
    I missed Lockwood, what did he say?
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:30am
    - lifesgood
      
      He was good. Without criticising the speaker he made it clear that he would have reprimanded anyone making such racist remarks. Brownlee is a huge disappointment. Fancy making a fuss about lapel badges and ignoring this blatant nasty bullying. I hope Karen can get throught this, she sounded utterly distressed and I wouldn’t be surprised if she quit. Of course that would mean the bullys would have won.
      
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      August 1, 2024 10:44am
      - MCōs
        
        There is a rule that party insignia cannot be displayed in the house and the other day James Meager, Nat, raised a point of order about a stick on the laptop of Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke, TPM, which she subsequently had to cover up.
        
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        August 1, 2024 12:52pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      He said he wouldn’t have got his tits-in-a-tangle
      about some shitty little lapel pins.
      
      SHEESH!!
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:01am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That’s the vulgarity of the left.
    Choir should do exactly what the MP for Mexico did, and stand up and say Mr speaker, I am a bit up set and the racist slurs coming from certain MPs. In saying that, she may be play this up a bit.
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:09pm
- RoboRob
  
  Not being all over the details, only what is in that article. I am of two minds. On one hand racist attacks have ZERO place in government.
  
  On the other I wonder if big G feels these new MPs need to ‘toughen up’. Politics is combative and there is fine line between political attacks and ‘personal’ attacks. One is not acceptable.
  
  That said the Maori party are racists and need to be pulled up.
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:43am
  - Damocles11
    
    ‘Big G’? A pompous teddy bear.
    
    It’s actually serious. Let’s not dismiss what is clearly workplace bullying, with all the mental health issues that go with that. ‘Toughen up’ in regards to turning a blind eye to this stuff went out the window many years ago. Brownlee should be toughening up when dealing with the bullies. He’s using kid gloves because they are Maori, IMO.
    
    ‘It comes as Children’s Minister and Act MP Karen Chhour says she is under constant personal attack in the halls of power and no longer feels safe at work.
    “It no longer feels like I can walk these corridors without fear of personal attacks from either other members around the House or even from outside the House as well,” Chhour said.‘
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:04pm
- RoboRob
  
  Interesting reporting skills on display from RNZ.
  
  ‘Brownlee did give Seymour the chance to table his correspondence, but it was blocked by other parties.’
  
  Now that is a news site right? Isn’t part of the story purposefully missing here? If it was Labour and the Greens that blocked it (and I have no idea) wouldnt it have been just as easy to say…
  
  ‘Brownlee did give Seymour the chance to table his correspondence, but it was blocked by Labour and the Greens.’
  
  The only apparent reason to leave that important piece out of the story is to protect the parties involved. Not the role of news media. Especially one paid for by us and supposed to be 100% impartial.
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:46am
  - Ghost
    
    https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20240731_20240731_08
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:12am
    - RoboRob
      
      You miss the point Ghost. When you read a news article you shouldn’t need to do your own investigation to find important details. The journalist knew which parties (because they knew it was more then one) so they could have said. For political reasons they decided not to provide that information.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:27am
      - Ghost
        
        Not making a point, just putting up the conversation. It’s a strange one as there is no specific objection, just point of orders.
        
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        August 1, 2024 11:40am
    - RoboRob
      
      That document doesn’t state who the objection was from either. I assume Labour and TPM.
      
      Note the abuse from Jackson and Hipkins. If I was G Hipkins would be out of the house.
      
      Hipkins : ‘You should have objected too—what kind of a Leader of the House are you?’
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:31am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Hipkins?
        
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        August 1, 2024 12:12pm
- Damocles11
  
  Maybe he needs to step down. He likes coffees with Golly G and giving the crazy TPM performers a free pass to run riot. To my mind he is smug and high handed with people like Seymour and his MP’s. He’s the worst of the National party mentality, combining a born-to-rule superiority complex with Luxonist woksterism. National should realise they can’t govern without ACT, but old attitudes die hard & eventually enough will be enough.
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    This carry on with Brownlie has nothing to do with the Nats, the speaker has no sway with what Nats say or don’t say.
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:14pm
    - Damocles11
      
      He’s from the National party isn’t he? He didn’t just land in the chair from outer space.
      
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      August 1, 2024 12:33pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Gerry is a former woodwork teacher. He can be accused of a number of things, but I’m not sure that having a born-to-rule heritage is one of them.
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:50pm
Chuck Bird

From The Platform

ACT’s Laura Trask Reacts to Health NZ’s Bizarre Gender Diversity Policy Draft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUD25vf63Y
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August 1, 2024 9:16am
Chuck Bird

Good to see the scumbag behind the 7 October atrocity has been eliminated.
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August 1, 2024 9:22am
- Matt Long
  
  It appears Ismail Haniyeh one of the key organisers of 7/10 attacks met with some kind of accident while in Tehran for the inauguration of the new Iranian President, whose predecessor also met with an unfortunate accident recently.
  Those who follow unfortunate accidents may also have noticed the death of Hizbollah leader Fuad Shukr following the deaths of 11 Druze children in the Golan heights.
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:43am
- kowtow
  
  Yep and straight off the blocks the usual suspects in academia and commentaria calling this murderous thug a moderate and how Israel has killed a negotiator showing bad faith.
  
  Er Haniyeh and the Mullahs of Tehran are the bad guys here ,they organised , financed and have supported that appalling genocidal attack on Oct 7 .
  
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  August 1, 2024 9:48am
- John Loveridge
  
  The Iranians are making a lot of noise and vowing revenge, but nothing will happen.
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:38am
Maggie Pie

*IN-THE-HOUSE*

What’s eating Shanan Halbert? 😀

A bestie tweets…..

https://x.com/2ETEKA/status/1818519641695961191
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August 1, 2024 9:30am
- cmm
  
  Is he the MP for K Road?
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:01am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    He WAS the MP for Northcote, got the heave ho and then after a few months came back in on the list. His husband resigned from Pharmac in a huff.
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:25am
- pdm
  
  Maggy tell your friend `acting weird’ comes very naturally to him.
  
  No comment on the bags under his eyes.
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:42am
softail 1450

Chuck Bird , There would have been a huge shit fight yesterday between Hamas and Hezbollah at the gates of Islams heaven as to who got the 1st choice of the available virgins ,to be fair going by the holes in the 2 buildings the 2 terrorist leaders are probably still looking through the rubble for their nuts and bolts, I’m no Jewish supporter but those 2 thugs have killed 100s of innocent civilians in the last 30 years so fcuk them..
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August 1, 2024 9:37am
cas

Can NZ sports commentators interviewing NZ athletes after their event has finished find better questions than “how do you feel” or “what does this mean to you”?
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August 1, 2024 9:40am
- Burtland
  
  these sports interviews are hilarious – they produce some of our best kiwiana
  “it was a game of two halves and the best team won”
  “O for Awesone”
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:38am
  - MCōs
    
    David Tua said ’O for awesome’ on Wheel of Fortune, one of those otherwise forgettable TV game shows
    Except he didn’t!
    He said ‘O for Olsen’ meaning Olsen Filipaina, fairly interesting rugby league legend and brother of Alf our local councillor
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:43am
- Biscuit
  
  Other things to moan about re the Olympics coverage:
  
  1. ‘We are so proud of you’. Erm, this is you – one lousy commentator – offering an opinion as a New Zealander runs 69th or worse
  
  2. ‘Conditions were tough out there’. Didn’t seem to much bother the 68 or so who beat our chap or chapess home
  
  3. ‘Mum, Dad, the two bros and half the neighbourhood were watching our 6th or worse placegetter. I wonder how proud they must feel? Let’s spend the next 5 minutes asking then!’
  
  4. Not belittling the Womens’ Sevens effort but tell me which of the following would be the most likely answer to the ‘How many countries would have taken the feed of the post-match Haka’?
  * Just us
  * Maybe one other
  * Erm, how many countries even took the GAME?
  
  4. We are now a week into a 19 day competition but STILL Sky are flogging their $34.99 package for full coverage. Do their promo division know about things called ‘pro-rata discounts’?
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:49am
- RoboRob
  
  Hey lay off those hard working ‘journalists’ There are only like 10 TVNZ people there on a tax payer funded jaunt to europe. They gotta do something 🙂
  
  My personal ‘fav’ is where two journalists stand together by the river to talk about the days events. There is just no way one journalist could handle that workload!
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:52am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The two journalists is just so the presentation is not sexist. His turn, her turn, his turn, her turn. Sickening.
    
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    August 1, 2024 11:16am
    - RoboRob
      
      I’ve mostly seen two guys. Perhaps one of them identifies as a woman 🙂
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:34am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        A lot of woman presenters get pregnant especially the weather girls.
        One of those guys might get preggers, Rob.
        
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        August 1, 2024 1:54pm
    - Drone
      
      Think yourself lucky there isn’t three to represent all genders !!
      
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      August 1, 2024 4:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Hubby doesn’t play or follow any sport. He must be the only man born and bred in NZ that has NEVER seen a game of rugby (and he went to PNBHS for 5 years!!!!!).
But last night, after I switched the Tele to the last 5 minutes of the men’s triathalon (and tried to explain who was who and what was happening), he got vaguely interested…and when Yee swept past Wilde, he became positively animated for a few seconds.
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August 1, 2024 9:47am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Same with my partner. Knows nothing about ‘Beach Volleyball’ but dominated
  the Sky Remote last night watching the gurls from SUI playing GER.
  Became positively animated as well.
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:07am
  - MCōs
    
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Philip Polkinghorne made his wife watch beach volleyball
    
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    August 1, 2024 10:20am
    - imalwaysright
      
      No.
      That’s not funny.
      
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      August 1, 2024 11:02am
- John Loveridge
  
  Not quite the only one, Maggy. I too have never, ever seen a game of rugby. I’ve never even watched one on TV. Not once in my entire life. I never will now, either. I don’t want to spoil the perfect record of more than 50 years.
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:41am
- pdm
  
  If you were watching it with Hubby in bed at that hour Maggy we do not need to now any more about his said animation!!
  
  Even if we are all aged over 18 here.
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:48am
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350362484/meth-sentences-have-police-officers-fuming-police-association
Could I suggest that the judges in these cases ( and maybe their families ) are being threatened with violence by the gangs ?
The police do a great job, then the judges let them off.
I can think of no other valid reason for the light sentences.
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August 1, 2024 10:32am
- Maggie Pie
  
  And interesting that police consider *37grams* of meth to be “a significant amount”…. as to that which the eye-doctor pled guilty to possessing.
  
  (A friend was wondering that given one-tenth-of-a-gram is considered by a user to be enuff for a ‘dose’, would 37g fall into the ‘supplier’ category?)
  
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  August 1, 2024 10:54am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I imagine a wealthy meth user wouldn’t want to be traipsing back and forth to the dealer for little bits. He/she/whatever would probably just buy a month’s worth for the sake of convenience. That said, it’s a very nasty class A drug and the penalties for possessing “dealer amounts” would be in the back of one’s mind.
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:41pm
- cmm
  
  “An uplift of two months was then made for her previous offending, but a discount of seven months was made for the time she had been on bail.
  That brought the sentence down to 24 months jail, meaning Hubbard, who was pregnant at sentencing, became eligible for home detention and she was sentenced to 12 months home detention”
  
  Huh, why should people get a discount for time they were on bail (getting knocked up)?
  
  I can understand a discount for time served as a remand prisoner. But on bail?
  
  4 kids already and one in the oven…. The next screwed up generation locked and loaded.
  
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  August 1, 2024 12:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

A few here not happy with me posting comments about US news especially the Election. Fine.
Then on another thread I see the NZ news is about Helen Clark tweeting. Get into it NZ news readers. Wollow in it.
Ever wonder why I don’t give a fuck about the so called NZ “NEWS?”
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August 1, 2024 11:26am
- Albie
  
  Same here Steve, switch between Sky Australia and Fox. Don’t tune in to local TV news anymore. Not interested.
  
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  August 1, 2024 11:56am
  - Damocles11
    
    Are you a US citizen?
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:26pm
    - Albie
      
      No Damo, I’ve just developed an allergic reaction to our msm and need to avoid exposure.
      
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      August 1, 2024 6:31pm
- Ghost
  
  People here are happy talking US politics. But you post crap. Fart in a jar lady dating a senator. Kamala who is born in the USA not allowed to stand for president. Michelle is a man. Your posts are rubbish and not worth discussing because it’s idiotic crap and everything that is wrong with politics. Don’t tell people they have tds with the retarded bullshit you post daily.
  
  You want people to talk USA politics then post factual interesting articles
  
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  August 1, 2024 1:12pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Some would be sarcasm Ghost. Nothing wrong with enjoying some fun. Some people do have a sense of humour – waning a lot these days.
    
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    August 1, 2024 1:59pm
  - Yabster
    
    Funny Ghost aren’t you guy saying things like don’t worry when media uses the term boy etc- yet you often get your knickers in a twist over what Steve posts. You also often state things like if you don’t like TVNZ don’t watch it- so try applying some of your own “wisdom” to KB….
    
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    August 1, 2024 2:43pm
    - Ghost
      
      Let’s see yabster, since you want to bring it up, the media reported a 17 year old boy was responsible for the stabbing in the uk. Was I the one having a whinge about the media were covering things up by calling him a boy instead of a youth or man, no, I actually said he is a boy and people were being stupid trying to claim otherwise. Part of many posts that were misrepresenting and spreading false information about the person arrested, but hey, that’s kiwiblog for you, a lot of misinformation posted as factual by a couple of usual posters. Do try to get your facts right.
      
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      August 1, 2024 4:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Reasons to vote for Kamala Harris by Dan Bongino.
Please try to not get upset girls and boys. There could be some truth in it, who knows?

https://patriotpulse.net/dan-bongino-just-shocked-his-listeners-by-listing-reasons-to-vote-for-kamala-harris/?
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August 1, 2024 11:30am
- Damocles11
  
  I can’t vote for Kamala Harris or Donald Trump though, even if I wanted to. I live in New Zealand, I have zero say in what happens in the US. Who is ‘Dan Bongino’? Why do I need to know about him? Why are his ‘reasons to vote for Kamala Harris’ more valid than those of Joe Bloggs or Uncle Tom Cobbley?
  
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  August 1, 2024 12:26pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Don’t read my comments then. I don’t care if you read them or not.
    I don’t even care if you live in NZ or not. It is just not important to me.
    
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    August 1, 2024 2:02pm
  - fernglas
    
    Don’t worry, Steve can’t vote in the USA either, but he visited Alaska once and that gave him an abiding fascination for the entire country which he assumes we share. You’re just fortunate to have his gems of wisdom bestowed upon you, such as that Michelle Obama is a man and that Trump is a master of 5D chess, so that if you ever do have the great good fortune to be able to vote in a US election, or even visit on a brief holiday, you will be fully informed from the most impeccable sources
    
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    August 1, 2024 4:15pm
  - wsk12345
    
    Seriously though. If you don’t know who Dan Bongino is, you probably don’t have a lot of interest in US politics and should just skip those posts.
    
    I dont think M Obama is a Man but you know what, I’m interested in what’s going on in the US election. No I can’t vote but the outcome will affect us.
    
    I’m not particularly interested in the wars that people on here are obsessed with. I have a basic understanding and otherwise I skip past. Likewise inane conversations about the very tedious game of rugby. Perhaps do the same and just skip on past, it’s not hard with a touch screen or mouse.
    
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    August 1, 2024 6:32pm
    - Damocles11
      
      Why do I need to know who ‘Dan Bongino’ is? What is his claim to fame? A former US senator or congressman or house speaker or something? Never heard of this bloke in connection to US politics.
      
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      August 1, 2024 7:26pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        He’s a popular conservative commenter. Former spook, cop or soldier I believe.
        
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        August 1, 2024 8:44pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie on ‘X’ asks a Random Impertinent Question….

‘Should slobs like this be allowed to breed?’

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1818679805887311910
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August 1, 2024 11:39am
- kevn
  
  Maggie… Mrs Crooks looks allergic to any media. Rather than the germs.
  
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  August 1, 2024 12:04pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    That sure ain’t ‘Mrs Crooks’ kev! (see vid)
    
    https://x.com/Penny_FL13/status/1818722752897204358
    
    Lots of speculation it could actually be Thomas…. that he wasn’t killed afterall 🙁
    
    Altho I think it’s more likely to be his older sister, Katie. Just saying.
    
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    August 1, 2024 12:42pm
    - kevn
      
      Maggie… Ms Crooks?
      
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      August 1, 2024 2:19pm
- fernglas
  
  Looking at the father, I would say that if you slapped a MAGA trucker’s cap on his head, he would look like a Trump voter in waiting
  
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  August 1, 2024 4:37pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  The family are probably devastated. I think it best they are left alone. Most people ambushed by parasitic media trash are probably not going to be at their best.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:48pm
  - Ghost
    
    An awful position for the family to be in. Not only have they lost their son but they will forever be known for what their son did. Grieving is hard enough without what they will be experiencing, cameras in their face, interviews with the different agencies involved, processing what he did and that he is dead, processing that he killed someone’s and left others with physical and emotional damage.
    
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    August 1, 2024 9:33pm
pdm

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

mrspdm and I have just heard Winston Peters tell Jamie MacKay on The Country that there was an MP in the Parliamentary Chamber bare feet recently.

I say – come on `Big Gerry’ get off your arse and stop this crap.

No Party mentioned but there are only two contenders – Maori Party or Greens – member.

What blatant disrespect to the people of New Zealand.
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August 1, 2024 12:33pm
- Ghost
  
  Unless a point of order the speaker won’t see people’s lack of shoes
  
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  August 1, 2024 12:57pm
  - pdm
    
    Ghost do they not have `people’ (security or whatever) on the doors?
    
    Surely Labour, Green and Maori MP”s would not expect to have to open the doors into, or out of, the Chamber themselves.
    
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    August 1, 2024 1:45pm
- MCōs
  
  Years ago when Winston’s bunch of chameleons was in cahoots with Jacinda and his name was Mudd on this forum Shane Jones would have been a contender
  
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  August 1, 2024 1:09pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    No it wouldn’t because why would Winston call out his own MP?
    
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    August 1, 2024 2:10pm
    - MCōs
      
      He’s got form
      
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      August 1, 2024 4:10pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Wouldn’t mind betting a buck to a pinch-of-goat-shit it was this guy….
  
  https://steveabel.nz/politics/
  
  Sort of looks the type, to me anyway 😀 😀 😀
  
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  August 1, 2024 1:09pm
  - pdm
    
    He crossed my mind too MP.
    
    Otherwise the activist Ferris or one of the young sheilas.
    
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    August 1, 2024 1:47pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Why do Greenies always look so unkempt? It is really weird. Scruffy beard, uncombed hair, horrible dress sense and always looking half starved. There must be a Greenie appearance code. Glad I’m not a Greenie.
      
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      August 1, 2024 1:51pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        A lot of the Women in Parliament from all Parties could do with a hairbrush. Maybe scruffy is the new look?
        Just saying, the standards are falling, male and female. Parliament should be a place of respect. Wear a dress suit. Guys, wear a tie.
        Shit, when I go out to dinner I wear a tie, and I have good shoes, not bloody dirty sneakers.
        
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        August 1, 2024 3:38pm
      - wsk12345
        
        Steve – you are kind of old though. Ties are so last century. Not needed to dress smartly.
        
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        August 1, 2024 6:35pm
Damocles11

Breaking News:

‘Green MP Julie Anne Genter has been found in contempt of the House for “intimidating” behaviour directed at another MP and it has been recommended she be censured.

A report just released by the Privileges Committee, which assessed Genter’s actions in the House in May, recommends the Rongotai MP be “censured by the House for acting in a manner that could have the effect of intimidating a member of the House acting in the discharge of their duty”.’
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August 1, 2024 12:41pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  Good. So what does that actually mean in terms of punishment? Wet bus ticket?
  
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  August 1, 2024 2:40pm
  - RoboRob
    
    Correct. See my post below 🙂
    
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    August 1, 2024 4:05pm
- RoboRob
  
  But what about the punishment. She must be devastated by such a stern punishment.
  
  IF the house votes to accept the findings of the privileges committee she will have to make an un reserved apology. OMG how will she cope! I had heard the privileges committee was powerful but had no idea just how powerful. Other MPs will surely think twice before committing this sort of offence in the future.
  
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  August 1, 2024 3:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Censured. Now she is shaking in her jandals.
  
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  August 1, 2024 3:42pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Imagine if the speaker could dock pay until the ferals got back into line!
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:53pm
Maggie Pie

Looks like the Maori and Labour parties are working in tandem to try and bully the ‘Minister-for-Children’ during QT today. Both asking the same question (#3 & 10)

Nothing more than a couple of useless time-wasters wallowing on the taxpayers tit.
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- pdm
  
  Carter is a Green MP not Maori Party Maggie.
  
  Same aims though.
  
  Look out for the Maori Party to join in next week when the idea suggested by Labour and the Greens sinks in.
  
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  August 1, 2024 1:55pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Oh well… a maori name anyway.
    
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    August 1, 2024 2:10pm
All_on_Red

Apologies for the long post- it wouldnt link but VDH is worth reading and he sums up Kamalas problems nicely
Even ‘Kamalaflage’ aint going to hide them.

‘Kamala Harris’s Joe Biden Problem’
Victor Davis Hanson

A selected Kamala Harris will become the only presidential nominee of the two parties in the modern era, who has never once entered, much less won, a single primary.

And it is hard to think of a single statement or position that Kamala Harris has not suddenly disowned or now rejected.

It is near miraculous how for three-and-a-half years Kamala Harris was the Biden administration’s megaphone for its hard-left craziness.

She was the go-to emissary to the radical Democratic base. Yet now she seems to be copying Trump on secure borders, legal only immigration, support for law enforcement, and fracking.

Still, when the Kamala hysteria subsides, Harris may well suffer the fate of Michael Dukakis, as James Pierson recently noted.

After the giddiness of the July 1988 Democratic convention, the Democratic nominee Michael Dukakis was leading incumbent president George H.W. Bush in the Gallup poll by 17 points.

Yet he was crushed by Bush in November by a 7.8 points. Why and how?

Bush’s politico Lee Atwater in series of brutal but accurate ads (the tank fiasco ad, the Willie Horton revolving door ad, the polluted Boston Harbor ad, etc.) accurately redefined Dukakis (a far more capable, kind, and well-spoken official than Kamala Harris) as an unapologetic Massachusetts far-left liberal.

And by the way, the 1988 election was the last time Republicans won 51 percent of the presidential vote. Apparently, the Republican party grandees decided never again to “lower” themselves to the Atwater level. And so, they have gone on to lose “nobly” seven of the last eight popular votes.

One of the most demagogic Harrisisms was her 2020 claim that the pseudo-martyr Jussie Smollett was a victim of American racism and homophobia. Here is what she gushed:

“Jussie Smollett is one of the kindest, most gentle human beings I know. I’m praying for his quick recovery. This was an attempted modern-day lynching. No one should have to fear for their life because of their sexuality or color of their skin. We must confront this hate.”

The Left until late June used to refer to her as our “border czar.” And indeed, she insisted the nonexistent border was “secure,” even as her own administration unapologetically welcomed an influx of 10 million illegal aliens.

In her role, Harris envisioned dismantling ICE, opposed the wall, and did not consider illegal entry into the U.S. a crime.

Americans were talked down to by Harris and told not to say, “illegal alien”—as she ritually introduced herself with her pronouns “she/her”.

Harris was an early vocal supporter of the green new deal that would have bankrupted the middle class.

The word cop Harris also sermonized us not to utter the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism”—as if, say, the 9/11 killers were not radical, were not Islamic, and were not terrorists?

(Just this week at the Olympics when the Israeli national anthem was played, radical pro-Hamas crowds waved their Palestinian flags, while wildly saluting and chanting “Heil Hitler”).

In the recent pre-July 21st world of Kamala Harris, there should be no private health care, but certainly free government coverage for illegal aliens.

If you currently legally own a supposed “assault weapon” the government has a right nonetheless to force (“mandated”) you to sell it to them.

For Harris, a country $36 trillion in debt, with $1.2 trillion in interest payments per year, in its seventh decade of affirmative action, ever increasing DEI mandates and virtual quotas, and over $20 trillion spent on Great Society poverty programs should nevertheless go ahead with racial reparations—a policy that even Californians reject.

All abortions are to be permitted on demand to the moment of birth. (We are not told by Harris the method of terminating the baby in passage through the birth canal.)

Police should be defunded, and thousands of imprisoned criminals released. Harris vocally supported California’s disastrous de facto legalization of shoplifting and “misdemeanor” theft of items less than $950.

She sought to raise bail funds for the 2020 rioters, many of them arrested for street violence, assault, and looting.

Her most infamous demagoguery was her CBS interview with Steven Colbert when she boasted that the ongoing 2020 protests (quite violent despite her fact-checkers’ efforts to “contextualize” Harris’s vitriol) would not cease:

“They’re not going to stop. This is a movement, I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop, and everyone beware, because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before Election Day in November and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. They’re not going to let up and they should not, and we should not.”

Note how Harris called the Antifa-BLM orchestrated violence a “movement”. Note her threats that the turmoil would not stop and “should not” stop. Note her warning “beware”. Note how she shamelessly linked the leftwing protests to the 2020 Election Day, emphasizing their assumed political utility.

In 2020, the Left found old Joe Biden from Scranton a useful “moderate” and “unifying” veneer for a hard-core, Obama third-term agenda—thanks to Biden’s long senate career and his Delaware pseudo-working man schtick.

But Harris was first a Bay-Area leftist, second a California hard-core progressive, and third a failed 2020 primary candidate who tried to vie with Bernie Sanders for the Democratic socialist base—on the assumption she had a harder left record in the Senate than Sanders himself.

So, the 2024 Harris campaign may again emulate the 2020 formula of keeping the gaffe-prone, cognitively challenged candidate in the basement.

Like Joe Biden, Harris’s deer-in-the-headlights moments are not sporadic but characteristic. And so the only remedy is as much seclusion from the public as possible.

And her handlers, as in the case of Biden, may again count on the 2020 revolutionary changes in state ballot laws to ensure that nearly 70 percent of voters do not cast ballots on Election Day.

But in 2024 they will not be able again to veneer the hard-core leftwing Harris and repackage her as a middle-class centrist.

There was never any such thing as good ol’ moderate Kamala from Berkeley.’
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August 1, 2024 2:38pm
Swifty

More nasty, vile rhetoric from the Maori Party:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350362931/act-mp-karen-chhour-breaks-down-tears-over-unsafe-workplace

When they’re unwilling or unable to debate policy I suppose that’s all they’ve got.
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- kevn
  
  Swifty… Distressing to see Chhour being attacked like this. She leaves the tmp lot in the dust.
  So, the pull the old social media trickery to show how clever they are(n’t).
  Same ilk as the ‘clam up’ families.
  
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  August 1, 2024 3:51pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  They are being paid handsomely by the tax payer. Please, for heaven’s sake Luxon, put the boot in.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:55pm
Maggie Pie

I took some time out earlier to watch Parliament Ch86.
As far as I could make out, Shanan Halbert didn’t turn up today for QT.
I understand he wasn’t looking well yesterday (see my post above @9:30am) but honestly, does anybody know what he actually DOES all day to justify pulling 4k a week off hard-working taxpayers?
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August 1, 2024 3:23pm
- pdm
  
  `does anybody know what he actually DOES all day to justify pulling 4k a week off hard-working taxpayers?’
  
  He has more than a few mates on that side of the house. Not many Maori Party MP’s there plus, everyones friend Darleen was missing.
  
  BTW when speaking of looks did anyone else notice the slovenly Jan Tinetti slouched in her seat during QT? Completely disinterested and when did she last ask a Question?
  
  Glad Tinetti is not teaching any of my grandchildren and hopefully she never will.
  
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  August 1, 2024 5:32pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He makes Kiwiblog News for sure!
  
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  August 1, 2024 6:44pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/taranakis-trent-pickering-and-rugby-representative-friend-film-sex-and-post-to-chat-group/HGQCNNI7G5GUTNIQTFHRKDB6JQ/#google_vignette

The court heard the unnamed offender, who applied for a discharge without conviction and permanent name suppression, has a “very promising rugby career” and had letters of support from the New Zealand Rugby Players Association (NZRPA).

Of concern is why the NZRPA would provide a letter of support to this sex pest! Gives the impression they were trying to get him off a conviction so he could keep playing for the team!
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August 1, 2024 3:24pm
Maggie Pie

O.M.G!!

‘Baby girl dies from being left in the back of a hot car for hours – just two months after being adopted by a ghey couple’

– The Daily Mail

https://mol.im/a/13555347

‘The couple live in a house that has so many animals it is practically a zoo’

WEIRDOS 🙁
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August 1, 2024 4:28pm
Swifty

There’s only one thing worse than rioting mobs in Western democracies:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13696069/Second-night-violence-erupts-police-cars-Southport-stabbings.html

And that’s successive governments of Western democracies which constantly and consistently fail to implement policies in accordance with their people’s wishes.
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August 1, 2024 5:59pm
- kowtow
  
  Funny though how the police reaction to one lot of thuggery is so very different to others ……
  
  blm
  palestine
  econutters
  friends of manchester cop busters
  
  Kid gloves and hands off , prostration even . But when it comes to an angry English crowd , ‘draw batons , charge’.
  
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  August 1, 2024 8:30pm
Maggie Pie

Just duct out of the HT to say wot a great job $TUFF are doing with 3ewes!
Runs ringa around Simpel Simon and Maiki.
Paula Penfolds repoting is amazeballs.
If they only stop saying… “ova to Tova”, we’d be total converts 😀
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August 1, 2024 6:29pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep…
  
  they’ve done well tonight.
  
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  August 1, 2024 6:31pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Are you promoting some weird pidgin English?
  
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  August 1, 2024 6:53pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    ….’pigeon’
    
    Just saying. LOL!!
    
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    August 1, 2024 7:36pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      No it is pidgin. 🙄
      
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      August 1, 2024 8:27pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Pinot English?
    
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    August 1, 2024 8:57pm
Jack5

Sokmething’s wrong in a Radio NZ web site report about a man saying the Maori Battalion rugby team in World War 2 should receive more recognition.

The various battalions of the NZ Army had rugby teams in World War 2.

Herbert Manupiri says his father, George Te Ngahuru Pitman (Manupiri), played for a Maori Battalion side against a Welsh team during the war.

RNZ reports “his [Manupiri’s] dad was shot in Gallipoli and left in Crete where he was cared for by locals.” Then he became a prisoner of war.

Gallipoli? That was World War 1.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/523889/call-for-recognition-of-28th-maori-battalion-rugby-team
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Jack5

So far, must be a dull news day in Paris …

Internet journos and posters are excited about 51-year-old Yusuf Dikec, of Turkey, winning a silver medal in a team air- pistol event at the Olympic Games.

Journos and posters commented on his shooting stance, with a hand in pocket. Yet many other air-pistol shooters use this balanced stance.

At least one person thought he looked like a hit man. Others commented that Dikec had ear plugs rather than over-head ear protectors. Many other competitors wore these plugs. Air pistols aren’t loud.

A poster noted that Dikec had “prescription glasses” rather than a special shooting lens for his dominant eye.

You can bet the shooting glasses Dikec is wearing in the photographs weren’t bought from the reading-spec rack at a Parisian stall.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13696077/Yusuf-Dikec-Turkey-pistol-shooter-Paris-Olympics-star-viral-photo-pic-no-glasses-earmuffs-protection.html
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Ghost

This is a good point about the act badges, the decision came from the business committee, which act also sit on so they knew the committee had made this decision

The third issue is about Act MPs wearing their party logos on their lapels. It would not be an issue at all if Act MP Cameron Luxton and National’s James Meager had not objected last week to Te Pāti Māori MP Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke having a party logo on her laptop. She had to cover it up. When the issue was raised this week at the business committee, it was decided to extend it to all logos – including the Act broaches that can be easily seen on television coverage of Parliament. Former Speaker Trevor Mallard gave Act dispensation a few years ago. Brownlee, as is his right, has decided there should be one rule for all. In this case, Brownlee should do nothing except enforce the rule and allow no member of the Act Party to ask or answer questions until all its MPs comply. Their choice.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/the-battle-between-act-and-te-pati-maori-is-out-of-hand-speaker-gerry-brownlee-must-take-urgent-action-audrey-young/6WYGYJKATJG6BFTFLBDSSB7UII/
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