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Bridgenag

Sunday Strip: Trust in The Socialist Agenda
It’s “the Science – TM”

https://www.malone.news/p/sunday-strip-trust-in-the-socialist?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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July 29, 2024 8:05am
- Stellaboxer
  
  These corporations really should keep out of current affairs.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:41am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Well, do penguins have knees? I never found out.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:41am
Chuck Bird

The US military is impressive. It does not appear NZ was involved

Preparing for war against China, Russia and North Korea | 60 Minutes Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewDcgG8Q288
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July 29, 2024 8:05am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  To knock China out just bomb the Three Gorges Dam. That will wipe out the Yangtse Valley plus all the Cities.
  
  N Kore they will use Human Wave Tactics and their infrastructure is so poor they would collapse.
  
  Russia would be the hard one.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:51am
  - kowtow
    
    Tom Cruise getting a bit old for gorge runs though .
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:55am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ not involved. How would we even get to Hawaii?
  Air NZ?
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:53am
- softail 1450
  
  Chuck bird, The only way our airforce could be used to wage war would be to fill all our 60 year old aircraft with petrol add all our expired missiles and explosives ,carry them to Pyongyang under an American heavy lift helicopter and drop them on that city unmanned then hope like hell that bankrupt broken half starved country doesn’t retaliate,😂😂😂
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:55am
  - kowtow
    
    Be realistic ……
    
    ………one haka and all our enemies would collapse .
    
    I know this cos all our “sports” “journalists” always tell us that defeat follows anyone who “disrespect” it.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:33am
    - Bridgenag
      
      lol
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:59am
    - leoj
      
      Worked real well in Paris (not).
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:52pm
- MCōs
  
  NZ used to have a battalion based in Singapore in the seventies and eighties; not so much as a defence contribution to the region, but as an enticement to get Kiwis to sign up.
  If you were young again would you sign up on the promise of being sent to some friendly tropical island or be stationed outside Palmy?
  Worse still guarding an MIQ hotel
  There’s no way a current NZ government would pay to station a battalion on foreign soil.
  BTW
  Even in times of war guys signed up for the adventure. In times past it was their only chance to see the world
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:47am
- OlderChas
  
  His Majesty’s New Zealand Ship Aoteoroa is fueling at sea warships of all nations during RIMPAC 2024.
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:33am
- mawm
  
  Chuck – “Participating nations in this year’s iteration of RIMPAC are Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Peru, Republic of Korea, Philippines, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tonga and the United Kingdom.”
  https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/06/rimpac-2024-kicks-off-in-honolulu-hawaii/
  
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  July 29, 2024 1:43pm
cmm

Adidas beat them selves up royally.

First they pissed off Jewish-friendly people who took exception to the 72 and appointing a Palestinian ambassador for their products.

They backed down to pressure.

Now they have pissed off the pro-Palestinian mob for backing down to Jews.

I wonder whether Hans in marketing still has his job?
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July 29, 2024 8:09am
- imalwaysright
  
  Probably got a bonus.
  The only time I think of Adidas is when the All Blacks haka form up as the company logo.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:48am
- Mr Nobody NZ
  
  If you were Hans would you want it?
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:15am
Nukuleka

Had the Olympic Games opening ceremony featured a drag queen parody of Mohamed and an Islamic icon rather than a parody of Christ and the Last Supper the world would now be on fire. That is not hyperbole.
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July 29, 2024 8:15am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Notre Dame would be burning again…..
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:22am
- Maggie Pie
  
  The Olympics are finished!
  Once you disrespect The Lord Jesus in front of billions of people, it’s all over.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:22am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Just look at who they chose to represent Jesus 🙁
    
    https://x.com/Harry_Faulkner/status/1816920155399602352
    
    A 600lb Trannie…. no wonder Christians despise them sooo much!
    
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    July 29, 2024 8:38am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “Just look at who they chose to represent Jesus”
      
      He thought they said Ozempics !
      
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      July 29, 2024 8:50am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Yes, disgusting & blasphemous. No wonder it rained all through the opening.
        
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        July 29, 2024 11:35am
      - kowtow
        
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        And that rain is now being blamed for the Seine being again too polluted for athletes , despite the pollies trying to mollify opinion prior to the opening.
        
        Bwahahaha.
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:41pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not a man of faith, but once I knew transistors were involved I dismissed it.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:01am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I suspect that this will be the last time we see a woke, experimental opening ceremony. But who knows. In 2028, it is held in California.
    
    I think that too much of it resembled a cross between carnivale and a pride parade. These have their place, but I personally don’t think that the Olympics is one of those places.
    
    On the other hand, I do enjoy making fun of Christians, Muslims, and Maori mysticism. However I will concede that the Olympics is a poor choice to go fill tilt at such mockery.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:36am
    - Matt Long
      
      California Olympics, theme fentanyl zombies and public excrement.
      I’m very excited to not watch the Olympics in 2028.
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:52am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Coincidence ??
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEGrQWwQmPA
        God will not be mocked.
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:27pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        See Paris is in a blackout, but only the Sacre Coeur Cathedral is bathed in light.
        
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        July 29, 2024 1:44pm
  - mogg
    
    These people have become a parody of themselves, they have nothing new to say they are boringly predictable. After Eurovision and now this they are satirising themselves, their self proclaimed avant-garde is really avant-garbage.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:03am
- Biscuit
  
  Nuku, the best description of the Opening Ceremony that I’ve seen reckoned that the whole thing was just another ruse by Rene and Michelle of the Resistance to get those two British ‘Allo Allo’ airmen out of wartime France…
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:30am
- Scooter
  
  They would never diss Leonardo and the Last Supper if the Olympics was in Italy. The french version is so passé.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:35am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    IIRC France is chock full of catholics.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:38am
    - kowtow
      
      Far too simplistic.
      
      It was a Catholic country and many there do practise , probably a minority now . More people probably go to mosque on a Friday there than to Mass on a Sunday .
      
      Recall too that the Revolutionary values the political class claim so strongly ascribe to is an extremely anti Catholic philosophy.
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:39am
      - Mike
        
        About half the French class themselves as Catholic.
        
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        July 29, 2024 10:55am
    - Paulus
      
      And becoming the largest Country in Europe with Muslims.
      
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      July 29, 2024 1:52pm
      - greybeard
        
        Time for another Crusade perhaps ? But not so far to travel this time.
        
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        July 29, 2024 7:14pm
  - Mike
    
    Monty Python had the best version, despite swapping out Leonardo for Michelangelo.
    https://youtu.be/-iXNJtNZbds?si=uuE7M2_OZwA_aL3I
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:19am
- kowtow
  
  Where was the disorder in England after the colonel was brutally attacked .
  A couple of thugs beat up women police , BLM style social media results in police station attack , transport disruption and msm knicker twisting.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:46am
- Inandout
  
  Nuk, apparently Khomeini said that Jesus was revered in Islam and the ceremony was shocking. Little wonder then that Olympic bods withdrew the video.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:47am
  - kowtow
    
    They get it both ways .
    
    Jesus is revered as a prophet , but dare one say that God is a Trinity …….
    
    In fact their daily prayer is that God is One ( a direct and deliberate refutation of the Christian belief)
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:42am
    - Mike
      
      Squabbles over the attributes of imaginary creatures would be more entertaining if they didn’t cause so much bloodshed.
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:49am
      - Don Beckett
        
        God is not a creature – He is the Creator.
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:29pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Humans will always find some excuse to carve out a tribal group identity to fight against others when resources are in short supply. It’s in our DNA, join a powerful tribe capable of murdering less powerful as a way to give you a better chance of getting more stuff. State, Religion, Ethnicity, Football team etc etc.
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:34pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Mike: “Squabbles over the attributes of imaginary creatures would be more entertaining if they didn’t cause so much bloodshed.”
        
        But you really believe Islam should be especially respected in keeping with your irrational woke faith.
        
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        July 29, 2024 6:34pm
- Stellaboxer
  
  They believe in diversity and equality as long as it’s not Christian, conservative or horror of horrors both. The fact is every time they do something such as the last supper parody they announce their hypocrisy for the world to see. Who are they? Those suffering from the woke mind virus otherwise known as the progressive left.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:47am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t accept that Christianity should be imune from mockery.
    
    However I take your point. If the opening ceremony had dressed up Mohammad as a transvestite, there would be no olympics. Paris would have been consumed by riots, burning, and murder. Seriously.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:42am
    - Taieri
      
      I don’t accept that Christianity should be imune from mockery.
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      No, it shouldn’t. But is the Olympic opening ceremony the right place and right time for it?
      Undoubtedly, a great number of competitors are Christian. How does it make them feel? Welcome?
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:05am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “No, it shouldn’t. But is the Olympic opening ceremony the right place and right time for it?”
        
        No, which I said in my comment up the thread. 🙂
        
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        July 29, 2024 11:24am
      - mawm
        
        Quite honestly, Taieri, I doubt whether the majority of those athletes have any feelings about religion other than that of their sport and their thoughts don’t extend beyond their performance, except for Novak Djokovic who proudly acknowledged his religion.
        
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        July 29, 2024 1:53pm
    - kowtow
      
      There is no place for “mockery” of any religion from any official body in that context.
      
      Where have respect , manners and common decency gone.
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:44am
      - I remember when
        
        The opening ceremony should be a celebration of sport.
        More especially the sports that are taking place – surely the ever increasing number should allow ample opportunity for the organisers.
        
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        July 29, 2024 11:32am
  - Ghost
    
    It was what most people saw it as, a bit of fun, there will always be the forever offended that are offended at everything. We see that every day on this blog, people whinging about the stupidest things.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:14am
    - Taieri
      
      a bit of fun
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      A bit of fun? More like a great dollop of grotesque. Once upon a time people paid their own money to see freak shows. Now their taxes pay for it.
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:57am
      - Ghost
        
        Yes I realize some people have become too precious, offended and up themselves to laugh any more. The right surely makes the left look like ameturs with everything they want canceled now
        
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        July 29, 2024 11:02am
      - Taieri
        
        some people have become too precious, offended and up themselves to laugh any more
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        I’m not offended, I’m disgusted.
        
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        July 29, 2024 3:52pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Word on the street here is the opening was a ridiculous mess.
      
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      July 29, 2024 5:53pm
- cmm
  
  I saw some speculation that this was deliberately done to appease Muslims.
  
  The greatest threat to the Olympics is an attack from Muslim jihadi types. That’s why they have about 70,000 cops and soldiers roaming around France – more than during WW2.
  Flying a few dozen of those Houthi drones into a stadium would be a doddle and add to the mayhem.
  
  So how do you appease said Houthis? Attack Christianity!
  
  Well that’s the theory anyway.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:24am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Seems unlikely.. Muslims don’t really go for parades that celebrate diverse genders and such things.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:44am
    - Paulus
      
      But Muslims expect other people to do it for them or else – as we will still see in Paris !
      
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      July 29, 2024 9:48am
    - cmm
      
      BY: No they don’t go for the diversity stuff.
      
      But they sure as hell like seeing their opponents humiliated.
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:18am
  - Inandout
    
    cmm, I recall that famous photo of Hitler standing and admiring the Eiffel Tower after France fell. I can therefore picture a conquering Islamist leader standing and thinking how many gays could be taken to the top.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:53am
  - rouppe
    
    That’s dumb.
    
    All they had to do was avoid bringing religion into the ceremony at all.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:54am
    - kowtow
      
      Yes for a society so dedicated officially to laicism it was a step far too far.
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:47am
  - kowtow
    
    Modern France.
    
    More military to control their own citizenry than they had to fight the Boche !
    
    But then the Frogs have form for that , their Revolution, which they’re so proud of , was essentially a genocide against monarchists and Catholics.
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:21am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yes, the Revolutionary army committed genocide against the people of the Vendee in the south west of France. Not much is known of this, and it has been excluded from the history of the French Revolution almost from the time of its occurrance starting in 1793 – I took modern history in 1958 -9, which started with the revolution, and even though it took up many weeks of the curriculum the Vendee was never mentioned.
      
      https://alphahistory.com/frenchrevolution/vendee-uprising/
      
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      July 29, 2024 1:33pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I was very disappointed not to see a celebration of the Moulin Rouge and the can-can. They’re part of Paris’s contribution to global culture and after all, those Olympic condoms won’t use themselves.
  
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  July 29, 2024 1:12pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Democrats are now cheating amongst themselves.
The riles will be modified to make Harris the nominee before she even gets to Chicago.
Lovely. Make it up as you go along. Circus and the clowns are in charge.

https://conservativeadvocacy.com/democrats-plan-power-move-to-anoint-kamala-harris-as-2024-nominee/?
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July 29, 2024 8:16am
- Biscuit
  
  Be fair, Steve, if the Dems had waited till the Convention to have Harris installed as the nominee you’d be lambasting them for not being able to make up their minds!
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:42am
  - softail 1450
    
    Biscuit. that’s the problem, they can’t make up their minds ,the Clinton’s Obamas and Bushes are infighting about the selection process.
    
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    July 29, 2024 8:59am
    - pdm
      
      I thought `The Bushes” were Republicans.
      
      Am I wrong?
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:41am
      - Mike
        
        All republican office holders before the Time of Trump, and a tiny fringe of the GOP now, are officially RINOs.
        
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        July 29, 2024 11:53am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Waddabout Jimbo? He’s still got a term to serve. Just because he’s 99 doesn’t mean he’s past it, you know.
      
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      July 29, 2024 1:14pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Only a select few have made up everyone’s minds, but yes, the Dems are a shambles.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:03am
    - Grunter
      
      The Dems under Kackling Kamala will be worse than the Ardern era in NZ. In a fair election Trump will win all the swing States. The Deep State knows that already and they can not let that happen.
      
      Trump even making noises about having RFK jnr in his team to sort out the COVID scam and vaccines generally. Also wants to wind up the Ukraine mess where the MIC is making Billions. This is like waving a red rag at a bull……something will stop Trump at some point.
      
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      July 29, 2024 9:46am
      - Mike
        
        We really need ‘Q’ to start posting again and reveal exactly what the Deep State is doing.
        
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        July 29, 2024 10:35am
      - Ghost
        
        It was more Trump trying to get rfk Jr to drop out and support trump
        
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        July 29, 2024 10:46am
  - kevn
    
    A good summary…
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1816974609637417112?
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:17am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Her last sentence reminds me of someone.
      Wonder who?
      
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      July 29, 2024 9:43am
- imalwaysright
  
  They want Kamala because she is unburdened by an intellect.
  
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  July 29, 2024 8:58am
  - Paulus
    
    Are you saying the the Obama s have intellect ?
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:49am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Almost all top politicians in USA are super-clever operators. Obama is clearly stand-out. Colossally destructive but very smart.
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:40pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        A smooth talking posturer but what exactly did he achieve?
        
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        July 29, 2024 6:40pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He just can’t make any sense out of her, and can’t control her. Poor guy is confused.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:55am
- slightlyrighty
  
  and Trump wasn’t anointed? How many Primary Debates did he attend again?
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:01am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You missed them?
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:44am
    - Mike
      
      He didn’t attend any. He refused to sign the loyalty pledge to support anyone else who might win the nomination.
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:40am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Must teach you about sarc one day Mike. You miss out so often.
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:26pm
      - Mike
        
        It’s hard to tell with you, Steve. For example, is your ‘big Mike’ thing an attempted joke or do you really believe Michella Obama is a transexual?
        
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        July 29, 2024 1:38pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Not sure what debating people he didn’t regard as contenders has to do with winning the primaries in different states.
    You think Luxon should debate Darleen Tana or he’s not democratically elected?
    
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    July 29, 2024 12:00pm
  - mawm
    
    Slightly – I didn’t know one got selected by primary debate attendance. There I was believing that Republicans chose their candidate by voting in the primaries. Silly me.
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:02pm
- Drone
  
  And Steve you are no doubt celebrating Trumps statement that if he wins this year “nobody has to bother voting again”.
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:38pm
  - Mike
    
    Probably will be explained as a misinterpretation or ‘sarcasm’ or a ‘joke’
    
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    July 29, 2024 1:42pm
Unity

Luxon needs to be called out. I thought National was going to get rid of everything in legislation that mentioned race. If they don’t stick to this they will be a one term government. His adviser is Tama Potaka who is known as an Activist!! That surely makes Christopher Luxon one too.
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July 29, 2024 8:17am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Maorification and Co-Governance are both on turbo.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:47am
- Grunter
  
  And you’re surprised….?? I’m not, exactly what I expected from Luxon.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:48am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Yes and a little frightening that all the work to get things reversed [by changing gov.] is still only ” we will do the same but balance the budget”
    
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    July 29, 2024 12:16pm
Swifty

Just what is the problem Rashbrooke is trying to fix here?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/523415/why-new-zealand-political-donations-have-more-than-tripled

The Left in NZ have no problems winning elections, they won in a landslide in 2020 and since Helen Clark have in fact won a slight majority of our elections ie over the last 25 years.

I think Rashbrooke perceives this as an area where the right have an advantage and will do everything he can to see that advantage taken away.

I believe Rashbrooke won’t be satisfied until our freedom to donate our own money to political parties of our choosing is totally stripped away, inevitably by leftist governments and replaced by state-forced public funding – a recipe for disaster as parties will no longer have to temper their extreme policies to attract support and donations but will rather retain them in the full knowledge that their funding will not be threatened.
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July 29, 2024 8:17am
- Paulus
  
  It is the female voting population who elect our Governments and have increased that position in recent years.
  They are of often Public Servants with cushy numbers and will not let anybody spoil that as we are now seeing, specifically if it is a male.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:53am
  - Mike
    
    What should be done: ban women from public service roles, ban women from voting, or both?
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:42am
    - Damocles11
      
      He’s just acknowledging something; it should be possible to do that without you becoming so triggered.
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:15pm
      - Mike
        
        He’s describing an alleged problem. I just wondered if he had a solution to suggest.
        
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        July 29, 2024 1:45pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      Trouble is….emotion rather than logic
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:17pm
      - Mike
        
        And does emotion rather than logic explain why males are so predisposed to violence?
        
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        July 29, 2024 1:46pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Mmmm……..I may be wrong, but wasn’t there a report out recently that concluded that females are more abusive than males in the home & elsewhere ?
        
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        July 29, 2024 3:19pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Mike: “What should be done: ban women from public service roles, ban women from voting, or both?”
      
      Nah. Stop brainwashing them with batshit crazy fourth (or whatever) wave feminism and quasi-marxism from an early age. Also ditch DEI and ESG. Appoint on merit only. There are plenty of competent women who just get on and achieve without that toxic garbage motivating them.
      
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      July 29, 2024 6:01pm
- rouppe
  
  For the first time, parties have been required to report on the value of donations they received under $1500 where the donor was known. Previously, they only needed to report on the value of anonymous donations of this value. This new reporting rule has brought to light huge amounts of donation cash which had previously been hidden to the public.
  
  How was the donation hidden? Only the identity of the donor was hidden, the value of the donation was not
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:58am
  - Bridgenag
    
    really… who is going to look.?…
    
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    July 29, 2024 12:17pm
- Burtland
  
  union donations good, voters donations bad
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:29am
artemisia

Time to time there is speculation about New Zealand as a safe place for some very wealthy in the event of global, shall we say, issues. We are well placed for that. Plenty of opportunities.

It is possible that Peter Thiel’s lodge could have been one of those? Until it was cancelled because reasons. Oh well, Mr Thiel has options and will be more careful next time. Somewhere else.

Then there was the rich guy wanting to build a top golf course and facilities on land he owns near Otaki. Oh dear, not consented because reasons, that appear to be from one hapu only in the area.

I think there is an Environment Court appeal to come, but if rich and with options why would you bother?

I am reminded of France’s wealth tax, canned when very rich families began to fall into the wide open arms of other countries.
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July 29, 2024 8:19am
- Burtland
  
  wealth tax is back on the G20 agenda – Brazil now pushing it
  – 2% tax on fortunes over $1 billion
  
  https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/brazils-billionaire-tax-idea-well-received-g20-seen-difficult-implement-2024-07-25/
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:34am
  - Paulus
    
    Assuming that those Billionaires can be found in Brazil !
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:54am
- Taieri
  
  Oh well, Mr Thiel has options and will be more careful next time.
  ————-
  
  Somehow, I find it a bit hard to feel sorry for Mr Thiel…
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:08am
- NothingLeft
  
  Theil’s just done an interview with Triggernometry. He has an interesting and nuanced take on the threats and problems humanity faces.
  https://youtu.be/42iVcEg5SOM
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:42pm
Matt Long

Not my usual post, does anyone know where I would go for possible redress for faulty strand board used as flooring in my house that’s now riddled with borer?
Insurance aren’t interested and the house was built 30 years ago, all the builders I talk to say borer damage in particle boards is unheard of.
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July 29, 2024 8:26am
- kowtow
  
  Go back to the insurer and ask them what steps they suggest for you to take.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:04am
  - Anthony Melchett
    
    Its not the insurance companies role to tell you how to manage your life. If the damage is outside the policy you purchased it has nothing to do with them.
    
    Your policy covers you for sudden accidental loss not gradual damage. Depending on what company it is with there is also the possibility that it specifically doesn’t cover you for damage caused by animals or insects etc.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:49am
    - kowtow
      
      Irrespective what their role is , and I never suggested anything remotely like you’re ridiculously saying “managing one’s life” ,ffs, they are in the business of fixing problems , that a policy holder pays very handsomely for , so a little goodwill could go a very long way .
      
      Goodwill being an important part of good business .
      
      ffs
      
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      July 29, 2024 1:16pm
      - Anthony Melchett
        
        “Go back to the insurer and ask them what steps they suggest for you to take”
        
        You may as well ask the local librarian. It’s as much their business and they would be as well qualified as a phillipino call centre operator would be to help.
        
        Whats next, you think they should pay for repairs as well out of goodwill?
        
        Ffs.
        
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        July 29, 2024 9:04pm
- peterwn
  
  Statute of limitations 6 years, ‘long stop’ limitation 15 years, so you are out of luck. The ‘long stop’ limitation was introduced for leaky homes situations and covers cases where the issue would not have been reasonably noticeable within the usual 6 years.
  Builder’s company probably wound and struck off years ago. This would leave the supplier of the product to sue if still in business, but statute of limitations would preclude this.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:08am
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes, I thought so. Thanks
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:26am
    - Don Beckett
      
      At that time the strand board used here was imported from Canada, and obviously had not boron treatment. I never used it in my buildings – I preferred the particle board flooring manufactured in NZ which had chemical treatment, and some was tanalith treated against rot & water penetration.
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:50am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Particle board contained formaldehyde.
        
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- cmm
  
  Well you first need to determine:
  a) who you can actually pursue (ie. who is at fault).
  b) how much you think you will get out of them
  
  Just because you feel this is not your fault doesn’t mean that it is someone else’s fault and you can make this stick.
  
  It makes sense to talk to a lawyer.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:17am
  - Matt Long
    
    Thanks CMM, good advice, if anyone is liable it’s the manufacturer.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:30am
    - cmm
      
      I am not a lawyer, but I would expect it would depend on what claims the manufacturer made about the product being borer proof or what could reasonably be expected.
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:23am
  - Bridgenag
    
    talk to a lawyer?……… cheaper to just get on with it
    
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    July 29, 2024 12:19pm
- Ghost
  
  Have to view the archive of the page
  
  https://web.archive.org/web/20180312075254/https://www.branz.co.nz/cms_show_download.php?id=002ef20ee99a14ca62242f48a4090aa179ee82f4
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:27am
  - Matt Long
    
    Thanks Ghost, a good link. Obviously borer is an issue in particle board after all.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:28am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Strand board is Canadian made, so is not the same as the particle board manufactured here.
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:51am
- sirknz
  
  You’ll probably find that any warranties, implied or given will have long since expired.
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:03am
- MCōs
  
  Sounds like big money.
  Get legal advice.
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:10pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    little joke….what do you say when you come across 100 lawyers buried to their necks in sand?…………… not enough sand
    
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    July 29, 2024 12:21pm
- artemisia
  
  Well done posting here Matt! Just goes to show the wide expertise on this blog.
  
  (I particularly like posts that start with, for example – ‘I am a bridge / power station engineer’, and ‘I chaired the joint officials interest group working party…’. A couple of actual examples on this blog.)
  
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  July 29, 2024 1:36pm
Yabster

Te Mana O te Wai bollocks still hanging about- “to enhance the mana of water” ffs- things like water from different rivers should not mix- fucking complete madness- and the cost!

See link to send the woke Chris Bishop an email:

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/email_scrap_tmotw?utm_campaign=240725_otago_tmotw&utm_medium=email&utm_source=taxpayers
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July 29, 2024 8:28am
- pdm
  
  Letter sent last week.
  
  I added Taumata Arowai to the list of what should be got rid of.
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:45am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Fox has invited Harris and Trump to debate on Sept 17th.
The ABC debate on Sept 10th is not happening Trump said. He won’t commit to a debate until Harris is confirmed as the Dem nominee.
A debate with Fox moderators will be far better than the clowns at CNN or ABC.

https://patriotpulse.net/fox-news-sent-kamala-harris-the-one-letter-she-feared-the-most/?
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July 29, 2024 8:32am
- bjools
  
  “Never interrupt an enemy, while they are making a mistake”…Napoleon
  
  If Harris gets anything other than 95% Delegate support…
  There is the ammunition for DJT.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:09am
- Raphael
  
  Harris hasn’t even officially registered as a nominee yet (that may have changed in the last 24 hours).
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:47am
softail 1450

Email the criminal Greens and point out what disgusting hypocrites they will be if they use the whaka jumping legislation that [Mod – use correct names] and her cabal so stridently opposed in parliament,,,
wellington@greens.org.nz ..
Chloe will be taking some mental health time out very soon IMHO..
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July 29, 2024 8:47am
Yvette

cheap cliché
The pasture ain’t Greener on the Other Side

Roopu Pasifika leaves Green Party in pieces
(an excerpt)

The Green Party is facing major internal ructions as key leaders of its Pasifika roopu resign over the treatment of it’s wāhine Māori MP’s and what it considers a major breach of tīkanga Pasifika by ignoring communication protocols following the passing of former MP Fa’anana Efeso Collins. –

[…]
• We are culturally unsafe when we are voiceless in an organisation that purports to care about but only pays lip service to the needs and priorities of our respective peoples. 
• We are culturally unsafe when we must endure the performance – but not the substance and actual practice – of genuine cultural competence. • We are culturally unsafe when wāhine Māori MPs are sacrificed for the Party’s media optics, political gain and money. 
• We are culturally unsafe when the Co-Leaders, Pākehā or other Tauiwi MPs continually disregard and flout the principle of Non-Violence with no repercussions. 
• We are culturally unsafe when we as the people in this Party most close to him and his family, are not strategically supported to deliver on the dreams, hopes and ambitions of the late Fa’anānā Efeso Collins.
 • We are culturally unsafe as we make this statement – knowing that instead of reflection and genuine change by the Party leadership – we will most likely become the next targets of vitriol and misinformation.

Having suffered from and witnessed actions that have diminished, demeaned, and disempowered our cultural, spiritual and familial wellbeing Alofa Aiono, Vasemaca Tavola and I tender our immediate resignation from the Green Party. We also speak for other Pasifika members who did not feel sufficiently safe to add their names here.

We hope that in time the Greens will once again be a Party that consistently and equitably lives by and upholds the four principles of the Green Party Charter.

Therefore, we wish all our very best and much alofa to those – especially our Pasifika Greens’ ‘aiga who are willing and able to stay. As Fa’anānā said on February 15th, “Not everything that is faced can be changed but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”
https://waateanews.com/2024/07/28/roopu-pasifika-leaves-green-party-in-pieces/.

She said Tana had “betrayed” the Greens’ principles, and was not responding to texts, calls, or emails from co-leader Marama Davidson who — despite being away from Parliament to undergo treatment for breast cancer — wanted to take the lead on the outreach.

Why would Tana reply.
She has resigned from the Greens

– reported as BEFORE being expelled .
And before ‘she’ became ‘they’
So Chlöe could now officially request the Speaker recognise the Greens right to a COUPLE of new MPs off their List, and officially explain why
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July 29, 2024 8:48am
- Blog-aholic
  
  The Greens have hidden the implosion for sometime now but the strain upon the hemp walls are now showing it to be turning to an explosion.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:50am
  - Matt Long
    
    What happens when you fill a room with mad moly cats? Eventually a catfight will break out.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ever tried to herd them? LOL!
      
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      July 29, 2024 10:44am
      - Yvette
        
        Steve, you of course refer to this pre-AI ad –
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:12pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        That is funny! A lot going on. The guy with a sling, the guy with a ball of wool, the one with a fur remover – and pre AI.
        
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        July 29, 2024 12:35pm
- H. Upmann
  
  As per bjools comments above,
  
  “Never interrupt an enemy, while they are making a mistake”…Napoleon
  
  Greens are past shooting themselves in the foot, it has become a shot to the head. Oh well…..
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:25am
Master Mariner

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/gas-shortage-has-energy-industry-and-exporters-in-distress-analyst/6JPRNL37QFHWXL2DN2ORHKTRPI/

Good question, Who is going to foot the Bill to produce an LNG Import Terminal in NZ ? Not too mention the time to build it.
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July 29, 2024 8:54am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  I was privy to discussions around an LNG terminal a while back, from a systems and process perspective, when the last labour government canceled gas exploration.
  
  Ms Woods made the simplistic statement – build a LNG facility. She was then told it would take billions and nearly a decade. And as UnZud is at the bottom of the world, subject to additional costs and risks around supply – i.e. having to compete with the big boys for supply when they are closer and prepared to pay more.
  
  And…then it all went quiet.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:35am
  - Burtland
    
    60,000 customers on gas will need to convert to electricity – probably cheaper than a terminal. Then push the cost onto the consumer with a small subsidy so they think theyre getting something for free – job done.
    
    … remember they did vote for this, saving the planet blah blah
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:23am
- peterwn
  
  Gas retailers and major gas users basically need to foot the bill. The money can be borrowed but the lenders need assurance that it will be repaid. Perhaps the Industry is hoping the Government will step up and provide or at least lend the money. But that is not really the Government’s job. The best way the Government can assist is to clear environmental and other hurdles that could potentially impede the project, using special legislation if need be.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:48am
- Grunter
  
  But, but….. I thought wind mills and solar panels are the answer….? Wait, what……??? Is that not true….??
  
  So how am I going to charge my iPhone so I can watch TikTok….?
  
  OMG!!!
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:58am
  - H. Upmann
    
    How to fix first world problems – become third world. Easy.
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:29am
- Burtland
  
  well Vector got $1B from the sale of the the North Island gas network to the Aussies – Vector knew this so maybe they plan on building one?
  
  Or maybe the Aussies will have to stump up – the new owners thought they could put hydrogen through it – but only at about 10% – wheres the rest coming from?
  
  or maybe the 60,000 customers will have to shift to electricity.
  
  shipload of fools comes to mind
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/73832257/vector-in-952m-gas-sale-deal
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:59am
  - peterwn
    
    Vector distributes gas, it does not buy or sell gas. Perhaps the sale of the gas transmission network was a canny move, like Telecom selling the Yellow Pages to a Canadian pension outfit.
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:44pm
- Taieri
  
  Not too mention the time to build it.
  ———–
  
  Perhaps FSRU terminal is an answer:
  
  https://www.exxonmobillng.com/-/media/project/wep/exxonmobil-lng/lng-us/pdf/110-fsru.pdf
  
  Doesn’t take all that long to get one built. Lithuania ordered one in 2012 and had it delivered by Hyundai in 2014. It is operated by the Lithuanian company KN Energy. As the unit was originally chartered the capital costs were borne by the initial owner, the Norwegian company Leif Höegh & Co.
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:19am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yes Indeed, That’s the Engineer coming out in you with a realistic practical solution.
    Incidently Germany has been installing Floating Terminals as well,
    I think they are working quite well in the short timeframe.
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:14am
    - Taieri
      
      Quite a few of them operate all around the world now. And the beauty of it is, apart from the pipelines, there’s a very little shore based infrastructure needed. And the Government doesn’t need to spend a single cent on it as it can be done entirely by the private sector. All that’s needed from the Government is a stable and pragmatic energy policy and regulations.
      
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      July 29, 2024 3:56pm
  - peterwn
    
    During WW2, infrastructure like that was very quickly built. There is potentially a case for it to be such a hurry-up project. The four big ‘gentailers’ and major gas users are probably doing investigations and discussing with Government such an emergency plan but are not ready for any announcement (this would be a ‘state secret’ at present so as not to compromise potential commercial arrangements). Government concurrence would be required at various levels such as fast tracking environmental issues, allowing a coordinated approach without the gentailers being accused of market collusion, shareholder approval (Government owns 51% of three of the gentailers etc).
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:52pm
artemisia

Succinct from Minister Reti in the Herald today (paywalled) – Health NZ board sacked: Steps absolutely needed to be taken

Random impertinent questions. Was Margie Apa up to the job, and if not why is she still there? Noted that it is possible that Minister Reti and Professor Levy will be helping her on how to do her job. (As in ‘I’m from the government …’)

During my time as minister, it’s become increasingly clear to me that the issues at Health NZ have been substantively contributed to by the previous Government’s mismanaged health reforms, resulting in an overly centralised operating model, limited oversight of financial and non-financial performance, and fragmented administrative data systems unable to identify risks until it was too late. Importantly, the front line was disconnected from decision-making.
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July 29, 2024 8:59am
- bjools
  
  On breakfast this morning.
  They are getting rid of 14 layers of management which could be as many as 3000 managers.
  1. Who has 14 layers??? (just the ones they are getting rid of)
  2. How much money would that distribute to the bottom line?
  3. How many layers do you suppose other organizations have of similar size and/or scope?
  eg Southern Cross, Coka Cola???
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:17am
  - artemisia
    
    There is this old fashioned thing called delegation. Then there is micro management, aka CYA.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Slash and burn all Govt Depts.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:27am
  - Grunter
    
    Close them down and start from scratch after doing a cost-benefit analysis….. none would start-up again.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:01am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Run everything privately. Don’t perform? DCM.
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:36pm
- Gravelroad
  
  I heard Ms Apa interviewed a few times during the time of the previous government.
  Don’t think it really mattered as to whether she was “up to the job” at that time.
  Most important was keeping cool with friends in the Labour Party. Friends who could be replied upon to help her out with the correct answers if and when the media came calling.
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:01am
imalwaysright

Apparently the police are being instructed how to arrest people for what they deceptively call Hate Speech.

What they are actually doing is instructing them on how to arrest us for Speech.
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July 29, 2024 9:01am
- kowtow
  
  On the Platform this am discussed the case of a woman charged by Dunedin Plod with “disorderly conduct” cos she addressed a Hamas terror march ”where was Palestine/there was no such place’
  
  Her cause taken up by the FSU .
  
  Was there any te media paahti coverage ?
  
  And Plod has form for this up and down the country .
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:04am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Perhaps they could also be instructed how to arrest for theft, shoplifting, burglary, unlawful taking of motor cars, assault, stalking, harassment, intentional damage and a whole host of offences that make people feel vulnerable and unsafe, but that they do little about these days.
  
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  July 29, 2024 2:21pm
slightlyrighty

Anyone else enjoying watching the Greens disintegrate among ethnic lines??
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July 29, 2024 9:03am
- H. Upmann
  
  My new favourite spectator sport.
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:34am
cmm

I was reading some Newfoundland jokes yesterday.
One started:

So this baby seal walked into a club…
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July 29, 2024 9:08am
- kevn
  
  cmm… Like the hate cleric who is buying an island.
  Should fit right in?
  https://dailysceptic.org/2024/07/28/hate-cleric-raises-3-million-to-create-islamic-homeland-on-scottish-island/
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:19am
- Jack5
  
  Newfies – Newfoundlanders – may be the butt of some Canadian jokes but they are great people.
  
  They have successfully kept the name of the little coastal town of Dildo (population about 800).The name comes from the pin on a rowing boat that used to attach the oar.
  
  Newfies waged a bright campaign, including enlisting an American TV personality, to retain the name.
  
  Another, but sad, fact about Newfoundland, was the slaughter of many of its young men in less than an hour on July 1, 1916, in World War 1, in one of the Allies’ insane charges into German machineguns.
  
  Within 15 minutes of leaving their support trench, all but about 70 of the 780 men in the Newfoundland Regiment, which had come through the Gallipoli campaign, were dead or wounded.
  
  The population of Newfoundland in 1916 would have been about 250,000.
  
  Newfies’ Dildo song (3.7 million views on YouTube):
  
  https://youtu.be/4i62RnsIQHM?si=opjTC5rdb8BHcFXJ
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:04am
Rusty

I notice that Palestine has a team at the Olympics.

Are they a country with a flag and govt or what are they?
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July 29, 2024 9:08am
- kowtow
  
  I wonder how Taiwan gets on at these events with flags etc .
  
  International bodies seem to be very quick to kowtow to authoritarianism and the $ when it comes to Taiwan.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:26am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    They are Chinese Taipei for the duration.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:52am
    - rouppe
      
      The Chinese have three teams at the Olympics:
      * People’s Republic of China
      * Chinese Taipei
      * Hong Kong, China
      
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      July 29, 2024 3:57pm
      - Mike
        
        How many teams do the Europeans have?
        
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        July 29, 2024 6:23pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Wow… The Pasifika grouping are spilling the dirt on Greens and their behaviours.

The Greens’ principle of Non-Violence in the Green Party Charter has been again and again contravened by women Green MPs who routinely heckle and yell in the House, who intimidate other MPs and who bullied two wāhine Māori MPs. Contrasting the treatment of Elizabeth and then Darleen with that of two other women MPs this year leads us to ask, “Will wahine Māori MPs who are perceived as a threat to the Co-Leaders’ comfort levels and ambitions always be an endangered species in the Green Party?”

(and lots more)

https://waateanews.com/2024/07/28/roopu-pasifika-leaves-green-party-in-pieces/
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July 29, 2024 9:10am
- Swifty
  
  Some people have allowed themselves to become just saturated in this racial effluent over the last generation or so.
  
  I remain of the view that this viewing everything through a racial lens and dividing us all into racial categories does is no good as a nation. It is dividing us and highlighting our differences, not bring us together.
  
  I hope they drown in their own effluent (metaphorically).
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:26am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    It is proof that intersectionalisation (by whatever measure) in this case race, is more important than policy and party.
    
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    July 29, 2024 9:53am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Reminds me of the Kath and Kim TV film “Our Effluent Life”.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:08am
  - PurplePen
    
    Wokeness has made life so burdensome, as the Singapore PM puts it, and so well in this short speech.
    
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LdabP7FLjE
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:32am
    - Swifty
      
      Excellent!
      
      How true.
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:18am
- Conservatarian
  
  See the film “Mean Girls”
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:28am
Maggie Pie

I don’t know whether we’ve got a *Wrestling* team at the Olympics ?

Mind you, not that I’d be watching it anyway…..

https://x.com/AnthonyCumia/status/1817664722919153975
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July 29, 2024 9:16am
- cmm
  
  Got almost 200 athletes + goodness knows how many helpers.
  
  To think that in the 1924 Olympics, NZ managed fine with just 4 athletes – one of whom also acted as manager.
  
  If your wallet is feeling lighter this morning then you know why.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:19am
  - MCōs
    
    The football, hockey and sevens teams would account for a major portion of our overall contingent.
    The football teams won tournaments to qualify, but once there are very much making up the numbers. By the normal selection process they wouldn’t be there.
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:47am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Well the ‘bloke’ at the opening ceremony had very ‘spartan’ short shorts……he was balls out for the show.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:56am
- OlderChas
  
  Link showing “page does not exist” Maggie.
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:03am
Yabster

see my post below re what the idiotic Otago regional council are planning- and a link to email the Ministers re scrapping Te Mana O Te Wai.
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July 29, 2024 9:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yes, I got an email yesterday from the Taxpayer’s Union referring to it and explaining it. The cancer will spread to all Councils unless stopped.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:49am
  - Notsofast
    
    I just signed and sent.
    If this isn’t hosed down we are screwed.
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:10pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The main obstacle is the activist Prime Minister of New Zealand.
      He needs to change course or just stop the nonsense.
      
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      July 29, 2024 6:11pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/greens-pasifika-leadership-says-the-treatment-of-darleen-tana-was-the-last-straw-in-a-list-of-disgraceful-decisions-around-maori-and-pasifika-mps/Z2A57YBJT5B2HOMLMXSK64TJXQ/

Yet, not one word about what Darleen did! Islanders need to learn that one is judged by what they do, not which family they are born into.
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July 29, 2024 9:28am
- Swifty
  
  Bloody crybabies.
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:27am
- Mike
  
  Any other entire ethnic groups you feel need to learn important values?
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:26am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Have you stopped beating your wife?
    
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    July 29, 2024 6:45pm
- Ghost
  
  Why do islanders need to learn this? Are islanders responsible for what a couple of politicians are doing or do you just like to blame every part of an ethnic group for the actions of a few?
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:28pm
I remember when

If all the raised pedestrian crossing in Palmerston North were placed on top of each other it would show that the PNCC have completed a mountain of roadwork upgrades.
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July 29, 2024 9:43am
- Burtland
  
  its everywhere – got to slow everyone down – you might get hurty
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:10am
  - MCōs
    
    I wouldn’t mind one outside my house
    Cars drive too fast and in the morning a lot of school kids cross the road on their way to school
    Elsewhere on some streets there’s too many
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:38am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      So you’re saying the councils are incompetent and spend money without actually putting thought into how best to spend that money?
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:00pm
  - Paulus
    
    Our recent problem with raising a zebra crossing is that the adjacent houses are being shaken by the traffic going over large lumps, and as for the buses – even worse vibrations.
    Waiting to hear as something must be done about it.
    I am not the next door houses though thankfully.
    I would call my Insurance Company as a claim will happen quickly.
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:08pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I think the idea is to piss motorists off so much that they’ll jump on public transport or bicycles. It’s not working.
    
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    July 29, 2024 6:11pm
- kowtow
  
  If the police responded to every case of paint vandalism like they did to the rainbow crossing protest ( for that’s what it was), there’d be very little paint vandalism anymore.
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:29am
Chuck Bird

Is it possible that they change Harris?

*SAD* Kamala Rally draws just 68 people total, Trump Rally overflowing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m0S5AQJurM
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July 29, 2024 10:11am
- kowtow
  
  It’s not who votes that counts , it’s who counts the votes.
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I think the Dem Elite have got the fix in now, even before the convention. Let them continue.
  68 people at a Harris rally and then a short clip of people outside a Trump rally, who could not get in.
  Landslide short of assassination. They had one go, they will be planning another.
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:30am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    I don’t think you understand what’s happening.
    The media etc can ignore and gaslight against Trump and the Republicans to the extent that they can pretend Harris doesn’t have issues.
    
    Democrats however are a huge problem. Harris got destroyed in the Primaries. If she goes to an open convention, her opposition will have to be given airtime and they will point out her many issues. They won’t be able to cover that up.
    
    That is why they’re trying to lock her in now.
    
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    July 29, 2024 11:59am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I do understand why the fix is in now. You are correct. Even the media can not help her.
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:39pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      And they have goliath google putting their hand on the scales – eg they got caught out by new york post trying to hide search results about trump assassination attempt. It’s going to be a super dirty campaign.
      
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      July 29, 2024 12:53pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Biden’s rallies were so popular he had dozens of people turn up to them.
  Come voting time though, they climbed out of graves to cast their vote.
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:52pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Don’t forget big tech scum and the media.
  
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  July 29, 2024 6:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Kamala might end up with a rebranded name and empty pockets.

https://politicalactionalerts.com/kamala-harris-faces-fec-complaint-from-trump-over-95-million-campaign-fund-grab/?
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July 29, 2024 10:11am
mogg

The ‘flame haired beauty’ and self proclaimed’Jezebel’ Dame Edna O Brien has died 93 yrs old. She has described her ideal man as ‘handsome, will buy her champagne, not complain about the price and not talk about his wife.
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July 29, 2024 10:13am
- kevn
  
  mogg… I wonder what she bought to the ‘party’?
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:32am
  - mogg
    
    As a young woman her books were banned, she was driven out of Ireland by the establishment, condemned by the Catholic Church. She took up residence and achieved world wide fame in London, but ‘her heart remained in Ireland’. Of course now there are plaques where she was born and her home town is only too pleased to claim her as a celebrated author.
    She pointed out the glaring contradictions in the Irish way of life with humour and a great turn of phrase. Never afraid to laugh at herself, while also laughing at others.
    That’s what she brought to the party. I am of course of Irish decent and have seen so much of what she poked fun at in my own parents and relatives.
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:53pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Ireland seemed generally dismal to me.
      
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      July 29, 2024 6:15pm
I remember when

Yellen says $3 trillion needed annually for climate financing, far more than current levels: Reuters.
“… the global transition to a low-carbon economy requires $3 trillion in new capital each year through 2050, far above current annual financing, ……”

Of course it won’t be enough!
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July 29, 2024 10:15am
- Blog-aholic
  
  $3 Trillion and the weather will be fixed….really, why are we waiting?//
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:40am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    3 Trill and climbing. Will cause widespread misery. Won’t do a damn thing to the climate. I worry the sheeple won’t wake up until these grifters/cultists have turned first world countries into third world countries.
    
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    July 29, 2024 6:17pm
- Burtland
  
  the real agenda …
  
  “Wealthy economies provided and mobilized a record $116 billion for climate finance for developing countries in 2022”
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:10am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yellen is a Capitalist – Castro style.
  
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  July 29, 2024 11:34am
Oskar

See also this piece by Peter Williams where he talks about the cost of te Mana O Te Wai in his area
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/peter-willliams-the-costs-of-te-mana-o-te-wai-are-worse-than-we-thought
Following is from a Federated Farmers press release (linked to in the above article)

“We understand that council engagement has led to a view that that no treated wastewater that has passed through a human body can be discharged back into local waterways.
“This would mean that wastewater, despite being treated to an incredibly high standard, would need to be discharged to land at significant cost to ratepayers.

“There are also significant concerns for irrigated farmers that water that has been drawn from one waterway will not be able to be discharged into another.
“This is because of beliefs that each waterbody has a distinct mauri, or spirit, and mixing mauri would reduce the mana of the water.
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July 29, 2024 10:32am
Mike

What’s the deal with JD Vance and couches?
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July 29, 2024 10:47am
- Ghost
  
  Fake
  
  https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/07/jd-vance-couch-memes-associated-press
  
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  July 29, 2024 10:52am
  - Mike
    
    But funny. If true, would have made him more relatable than his ‘childless cat lady’ gaffe.
    
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    July 29, 2024 10:57am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      What gaffe? A bunch of people looking for any reason to attack him is not representative.
      The fact is that parents obviously have different priorities than non-parents and stacking your party with non-parents is going to cause issues.
      
      Does any reasonable person think it’s a good idea to listen to childless politicians tell us they know what’s best for our children?
      
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      July 29, 2024 11:54am
      - Mike
        
        Was that the first thing your parents asked the child psychologist: do you have children?
        Or did they get family advice from the priest?
        
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        July 29, 2024 1:49pm
      - Ghost
        
        people on this blog seem to like what David Seymour wants to do with education. He has no kids but knows what is best for kids education…. Or is it only childless lefties?
        
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        July 29, 2024 2:04pm
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Ghost – that trap was for Mike, not you.
        Seymour’s schtick re education is literally that parents know best and should therefore be given the choice. He agrees that he doesn’t know what’s best for other people’s kids.
        
        As for Mike: huh? You realise priests shouldn’t have any say in how you raise children either and politicians are most definitely not child psychologists.
        
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        July 29, 2024 2:57pm
      - Ghost
        
        Nice attempt to cover up. But no. Seymour is setting up a specialist education system for a few students. Not giving parents choice. Most parents will have no choice but state school. The trap is actually when people like you make stupid statement than have to dig down to try and correct your cock up
        
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        July 29, 2024 3:26pm
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Ghost – What? Have you even read ACT’s education policy?
        
        “Our long-term vision is to provide every child with a Student Education Account parents can use any registered educational institution that will accept their child’s enrolment, public or private.
        
        ACT has a number of policies aimed at laying the groundwork so every student can thrive, no matter their school. Once that groundwork has been laid, it will be time to radically shift the way education is funded in New Zealand.
        
        The best way of improving the education system is to give parents more choice over how government funding for education is spent. Governments do not have all the answers to what makes a good education, and cannot possibly make choices that will suit all kids and their individual needs.
        
        An education system that enables greater choice would make alternative school models such as partnership schools or state-integrated schools more accessible. Principals and teachers who have ideas on what would work best for the kids and communities they serve should be free to implement their solutions, as long as they are held accountable for the results.”
        
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        July 29, 2024 3:45pm
      - Ghost
        
        Act can claim what they like, it’s never going to be accomplished, the most he will get is a few charter schools that will be disbanded but the next labour government. Sorry but if you want to believe that they will do what they pretend they will in education, then I have a bridge to sell to you. That’s the problem with the small parties, they can lie like hell to the people that vote them knowing they will never achieve it. Which is why that is not part of the collation agreement, because it will never happen. Btw, that bridge is going cheap.
        
        Here’s the agreement they signed, and your voucher system is gone
        
        https://assets.nationbuilder.com/nationalparty/pages/18466/attachments/original/1700778592/National_ACT_Agreement.pdf?1700778592
        
        Once this government is out, education will be no different apart from a few charters schools that will quickly be closed down.
        
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        July 29, 2024 3:51pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Ghost the litmus test re Seymour on education is are parents generally with him.
        
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        July 29, 2024 6:22pm
O C Smith

I note MP Darleen Tana (they, them) still uses the “I” pronoun sure it should be “We”.
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July 29, 2024 11:21am
- NothingLeft
  
  English and ethics as a second language?
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:55pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Pesky pronouns, eh?
  
  Someone demands to be addressed by a plural or misgendered pronoun, and then is clueless how to refer to itselves. (yes, yes… I know there’s no such word).
  
  Perhaps we should all check first whether their possessive pronoun corresponds with their reflexive pronoun.
  And just to keep the poor dears ~~confused~~ comfortable enquire as to their preferred demonstrative pronouns.
  
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  July 29, 2024 1:47pm
  - Mike
    
    *themselves
    
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    July 29, 2024 1:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      But they (Ms Tana) IS a singular entity.
      
      (parse that one)
      
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      July 29, 2024 4:23pm
      - Mike
        
        Gosh, I’m no authority, but if they/them has now extended to allow usage as gender neutral singular personal pronouns, why doesn’t themselves serve similarly?
        
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        July 29, 2024 5:35pm
  - MCōs
    
    People are free to choose their own pronouns and titles, or are they?
    A married woman would normally be titled Ms or Mrs, but often prefers Miss. particularly politicians when they retain their original surname
    
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    July 29, 2024 4:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Secret Service cares about Trump’s safety so wants to shut him down.
After he was shot at more and more want to attend the rallies.
Have similar requests been made to Harris?

https://freedomeagledaily.com/secret-services-feeble-attempt-to-curb-trumps-rally-dominance/?
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July 29, 2024 11:54am
Pope Punctilious II

I wish every member of the present government would watch this talk by David Starkey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HikjNGAvHJo

I don’t agree with everything Starkey says here, but he absolutely nails the problem of parliament’s power being usurped by judges, quangos and civil “servants” who are not democratically accountable.
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July 29, 2024 11:56am
Ghost

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country might enter Israel as it did with Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh; in order to help the Palestinians.

“We must be very strong so that Israel can’t do these ridiculous things to Palestine. Just like we entered Karabakh, just like we entered Libya, we might do similar to them,” he said during a meeting of his ruling AK Party in his hometown of Rize.

Article
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July 29, 2024 12:09pm
- MCōs
  
  Then again he might not . . . . .
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:14pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Turkey was directly involved in the recent Nagorno-Karabakh wars? No wonder tiny Armenia got crushed.
  
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  July 29, 2024 12:20pm
- Grunter
  
  Erdogan hates Israel and he has his Turkish population behind him on that one. If it got to the stage where Turkey and Israel were at war then things would be a very complicated mess indeed.
  
  Turkey being a NATO country, what would that lead to….??
  
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  July 29, 2024 2:24pm
  - kowtow
    
    Turkish President boasting about whacking Armenians , given the history of the Turks committing genocide against them in 1915.
    
    MSM ? Crickets .
    
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    July 29, 2024 3:27pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Isn’t Turkey in NATO?
  
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  July 29, 2024 6:24pm
I remember when

Disregarding the rights and wrongs of Darlene Tana’s actions, it is unfortunate that she has failed as a politician.
She represents the type of achiever that there are frequent calls for Maori to aspire to.
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July 29, 2024 12:10pm
- Swifty
  
  An achiever without a shred of integrity?
  
  No thanks.
  
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  July 29, 2024 1:43pm
  - Notsofast
    
    That might be harsh. Do we have the full report?
    Bob Jones on the new guy.
    
    https://nopunchespulled.com/2024/07/23/the-ludicrous-green-party/
    
    No thanks.
    
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    July 29, 2024 2:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Corruption Awards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQA47tZL1s8
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July 29, 2024 12:55pm
Ra Henare

Is Sir Bob Jones doing a Joe Biden at 84?

Bobs Latest post. Dare I say attack piece.
Has a factually incorrect statement. I know Bob has a bad case of TDS but now he is focussing that on to Trumps running mate.

He says about Vance

His first post selection public utterance was….(ie Childless cat ladies)

The facts of the matter, widlely reported, is that Vance made that utterance in 2021!!!

Sorry Bob, love your articles relating to personal observations. But anything relating to American Presidential Politics is a demonstration of Emotional tripe.
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July 29, 2024 1:25pm
- Mike
  
  And there I was thinking it was a stopped clock moment for him.
  
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  July 29, 2024 1:52pm
- Notsofast
  
  Bob is far more similar to Trump than dissimilar.
  Remember those weeks in the dock in the 90s when he had no recollection of being a huge seller of his own stock?
  
  Other than that, iconic NZer.
  
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  July 29, 2024 2:15pm
  - MCōs
    
    The word ‘iconic’ is thrown around too much.
    I suggest substituting the expression ‘fairly interesting’
    Harley Davidson has manufactured some fairly interesting motor bikes
    Shakespeare wrote some fairly interesting plays
    Bob Jones is a fairly interesting Kiwi
    
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    July 29, 2024 4:17pm
Swifty

“I am an expert and that is why you must take my advice”:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/523227/gang-crackdown-why-anti-patch-policies-backfire-and-what-would-actually-work

It seems to me that it’s our ‘experts’ over the last 40 or 50 years that have led us to the crime pickle we’re currently in.
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July 29, 2024 2:54pm
- MCōs
  
  Depends which experts and what their expertise is . . . .
  
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  July 29, 2024 4:19pm
  - Swifty
    
    Not really MCos.
    
    It’s known as a logical fallacy – an argument from authority.
    
    In addition, I don’t need to be a meteorologist to know it’s raining.
    
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    July 29, 2024 4:32pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Harris, too extreme for America?
Starting to sound crazier than Ardern.

https://patriotpowerednetwork.com/kamala-harris-too-extreme-for-america/?
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July 29, 2024 3:00pm
ecco

Wow that remuera eye surgeon who is up for murder of his wife, claiming it was suicide is a right little creep isn’t he? Sounds like an absolute sex maniac. The poor woman didn’t leave him apparently because she didn’t know if she could cope, financially I’m guessing.
Does anyone else think it’s a case of a drug addled sex session gone wrong??
Crikey anyone from Auckland could quite easily have gone to him to get their eyes operated on – meth addict surgeon, for goodness sake.
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July 29, 2024 3:21pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Without disparaging eye surgeons of a certain age is there a problem somewhere??
  
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  July 29, 2024 3:28pm
  - ecco
    
    Not at all. Just pointing out that the meth scourge also affects the top end of town, not just the bottom. Clearly the man has a meth addiction and a sex addiction. That poor, poor woman.
    
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    July 29, 2024 4:00pm
- cmm
  
  As the child of an addict (alcoholic) all I can say is a big Fuck You to all addicts out there that use their addiction as an excuse.
  Get yourself sorted out. Not for yourself, but for the real victims caused by your selfishness.
  
  On top of his family members that he was damaging there are also all his patients who had, or wonder now whether they had, sub-optimal surgery due to his pathetic actions.
  
  Bonus Fuck You to any person who knew or suspected this was going on but allowed it to continue.
  
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  July 29, 2024 5:08pm
- Jake Dee
  
  So, it looks like my theory from yesterday of exotic poisons is out, but so is the theory of vaccine side effects.
  Right now, it’s either Mrs. Polkinghorne in the hallway with the rope, or Dr. Polkinghorne in the bedroom with a meth pipe.
  And we have yet to hear the evidence of a certain “Miss Scarlet’ sex worker.
  Perhaps I shouldn’t be making jokes about someone’s untimely death, but I do.
  It’s like watching the slow-motion replay of a train wreck, which is something I also do.
  
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  July 29, 2024 9:11pm
Ghost

So 20% of the customers are vegan, 80% of your menu was based around them

And the next business to fail is

A vegan café in Auckland has had to make the difficult decision to start serving meat on its menu as it battles with rising cost pressures.

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July 29, 2024 3:37pm
- rouppe
  
  He said 80% of the menu had been vegan, while 20% of its customers were vegan.
  
  “We are now trying to be more inclusive, so about 30% of our menu will have some sort of meat products on it.”
  
  They’ve realised that 80% of their menu is too much vegan so they’re moving to… 70%.
  
  Might prolong the inevitable…
  
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  July 29, 2024 3:44pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I doubt 20% are truly vegan. Probably “show” vegan pests when at restaurants though.
  
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  July 29, 2024 6:29pm
Sparrow

Mon dieu, I am so enjoying the Olympic balls ups !!! 1. Olympic flag upside down. 2. South Korea became North Korea 3. Wrong anthem for South Sudan.
Then the French are so hospitable they invited drag Queens for a meal.
Can’t wait for the next episode.
There is sure to be another gold medal event.
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July 29, 2024 3:55pm
Swifty

40 grammes eh? A real party boy.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/523422/former-surgeon-philip-john-polkinghorne-pleads-guilty-to-meth-charges-as-murder-trial-begins

Sounds like he’s gone down the Mark Lyons route.
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July 29, 2024 4:04pm
cmm

Are they just trying their best to sabotage the “bootcamp” concept?

No significant military input. Just a few OT staff given a bit of training by defence staff.

Pah!

If you want a bootcamp, then do a proper bloody bootcamp under military control with military law in place where it is a crime to swear at instructors.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350359296/government-boot-camp-starts-no-nzdf-facilities-be-used
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- Mike
  
  How about just forcibly enlisting young offenders and sending them straight to the services corrective establishment?
  Seriously, the military is not there to reform young criminals.
  
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  July 29, 2024 4:47pm
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  Dad’s Army?
  
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  July 29, 2024 6:48pm
cmm

$1uff proving they are overvalued again…

They lose their lollies over some Olympic commentator being “sexist” when he made some comment about female swimmers and their make up.

Can’t be sexist by reducing women to simple beings obsessed with make up and can we? They are serious people. That would be sexist…

Scroll a bit further down their main web page and there’s an article:”Makeup artist Amber D on the last beauty product she finished” and some equally ditsy fashion pieces.

“We’ve been a fan of her mahi since first meeting her on the M.A.C counter at Smith & Caughey’s back in the early aughts.

When was the last time you cried?

I cry almost daily watching TikTok animal videos.”
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greybeard

Just Google:
“female olympics athletes and makeup”

What a lot of hypocrites. Remember Raelene Boyle from Australia ? FloJo ? Untold others ?
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July 29, 2024 7:00pm
NZer In Exile

From Muriel Newman’s NZCPR:

Bryan Leyland: Climate Change is NOT a Major Problem

https://www.nzcpr.com/climate-change-is-not-a-major-problem/

Bryan Leyland MSc, DistFEngNZ, FIMechE, FIEE(rtd), is a power systems engineer with more than 60 years experience worldwide. He has been studying climate change for 25 years and has attended four overseas conferences on climate change.
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