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Scooter

Will this be the Olympics with the most trannies performing and that’s just in the opening ceremony.
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July 27, 2024 8:05am
- kowtow
  
  While the officials of the Olympics try to display their woke credentials to pander to God knows who , the extreme left sabotage the train network .
  Meanwhile the streets of French towns and cities are awsah with the military .
  
  How has it come to this .
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:35am
- Rusty
  
  @Scooter #Eurovision was a prelude to what we saw in Paris with the trannies.
  
  They will be present at the medal ceremonies as well.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:15am
  - imalwaysright
    
    The near naked geezer in the fruit bowl was particularly off-puting.
    And the large man behind him slow dancing with the eight year old girl on his chest was disgusting.
    I’m sick of this crap.
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:06pm
    - PurplePen
      
      funny. i had the sound off and came in at about vietnam … thank god. it was pretty dull from there. lord knows what the parade of athletes was like. much prefer it in a stadium. barging along the Seine was a nice twist, but they could have gone twice the speed and had them almost bumper to bumper would have been better.
      
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      July 27, 2024 1:33pm
    - MCōs
      
      He said with his eyes glued to the screen
      
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      July 27, 2024 1:35pm
      - Ghost
        
        Exactly, the dancers enjoyed themselves, it’s sad that someone actually sees something like that, it says more about their frame of mind than anything else
        
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        July 27, 2024 6:45pm
  - MCōs
    
    Should be fun
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:34pm
- Scooter
  
  Mon dieu!! Wardrobe malfunction at the Olympics.
  
  https://x.com/Julie_nzkiwi/status/1817065715767353710?t=vn69ciU3boylY_HTpn4T9g&s=19
  
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  July 27, 2024 7:12pm
wsk12345

I’m pretty sure our Following the Science was broadly similar to how it was done in Germany, based on what we do know about Medsafe decisions.

A full unredacted version of decision making over covid by there Robert Koch Institire.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/unredacted-rki-protocols-lay-bare?utm_medium=email
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July 27, 2024 8:09am
slightlyrighty

Watching the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics, it struck me that there would be at least one advantage to renaming this Country as Aotearoa-New Zealand…..
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July 27, 2024 8:13am
- newview
  
  Yes starting with A would be nice. The whole show a bit drawn out for me.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:38am
  - MCōs
    
    The Australian team was at the end and New Zealand was after Niger and Nigeria
    Maybe because NZ is Nouvelle Zélande in French
    Maybe we should have named our boat the Rainbow Warrior
    https://x.com/onelifestand87/status/1816938636236968191?s=46&t=XZLqGbhN-xeYzprhTaktsg
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:18am
- pdm
  
  Even that is sacrilege sr.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:50am
Maggy Wassilieff

The MSM and Te Pati Māori are constantly needling Karen Chhour about revoking section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act.

It seems they are unfamiliar with this tragic story of Casino Ataria-Wharehinga who only survived for 6 weeks in the “care” of her uncle and aunty.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/casino-rockk-ataria-wharehinga-death-fathers-side-of-family-say-they-fought-ot-to-get-custody-before-she-was-killed/ZQ7P6X2LBRBGXCYLIEQOEMDG2M/
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July 27, 2024 8:22am
- rouppe
  
  I read that this morning as well. Absolutely disgraceful.
  
  What it suggests is that placement decisions are not well thought out across the board, rather than taken with a racist lens.
  
  In reality it shows 7AA isn’t needed at all.
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:31am
- kowtow
  
  The very same msm currently hyping the past lost souls of institutional “care”. Their lack of self awareness and outright hypocrisy is astounding.
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:44am
- Philview
  
  The MSM have destabilised New Zealand. Their lack of scrutiny of the Ardern years followed by their very political activism now is worrying. The media mostly give the impression they want this to be a one term Government and get back to an ideological regime that wants to dismantle liberal democracy in New Zealand.
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:48am
  - kowtow
    
    The msm is a very strange beast .
    
    While they hype the Olympics relentlessly as if it’s the most important thing on Earth , today’s front page Herald is a carefully timed attck on high performance NZ sports and medal culture , but just watch how they have in the past and will now hype the medal table and our disproportionate wonderfulness thereupon.
    
    With the msm they can have their cake and eat it too.
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:46am
- pdm
  
  Karen Chhour is doing a very good job as far as I can see. Her commitment to New Zealands children of all races and creeds shines through in the emotion she shows when speaking in the House.
  
  Long may she continue to stand firm against the activists trying destabilise and undo her good work. Those activists come from Labour and the Greens too with Willow-Jean Prime in particular taking an approach that is difficult to understand.
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:53am
  - Paulus
    
    Isn’t Willow Jean Prime a Maori Activist now and before she entered Parliament.
    So what do you expect.
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:52am
    - Sparrow
      
      She was a useless MP for Northland. Never answered questions never visited outside of her home area. Waste of space.
      
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      July 27, 2024 11:02am
  - Nobby2
    
    Karen Chour is doing an excellent job. She has a commitment and passion to ensuring ALL children are safe. The reason labour, greens and maori party are hounding her is because she is exposing their callousness, ineptitude and complete lack of caring towards the wellbeing and safety of NZ children. Go Karen.
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:15pm
- Damocles11
  
  The baby killings are an ongoing disgrace and are a weeping sore that encapsulates our current national agony. Throwing out some words and phrases here that you’ll find in any story relating to the baby killings but are also commonplace within any discussion on our increasingly divided country and society: Oranga Tamariki, Te Tiriti o Waitangi, Te Pati Maori, ‘horrific damage’, ‘whanau’, colonialism.
  None of this ever seems to end. It’s like some barely healed wound has been torn asunder and is now infected and leaking pus.
  The government agency tasked with protecting children from killer relatives is in a ‘no win’ situation, damned if they uplift, damned if they don’t. At the heart of it all: the place where a defenceless infant or toddler should be safest is with their family, yet their family are killing them. And we blame a government agency for not stopping the ongoing killings.
  Another point to ponder: for every child killed, how many survive but with brain injuries, massive psychological trauma and personality and emotional disturbance? There will be a ratio, and no doubt it would be shocking if known.
  The problems don’t seem fixable and I can understand why people are moving to Australia in droves.
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:55am
  - Paulus
    
    May be this last comment could be seen in the dramatic increase in Maori Mental Health over recent years !
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:55am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Paulus,
      Your’s is a most chilling observation. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
      
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      July 27, 2024 11:19am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Well said Damocles.
    Yes, just imagine how many infants are beaten and tortured within an inch of their life and miss detection.
    
    Perhaps we can have a Royal Commission into the infant abuse, tortures, and murders.
    We could subpoena the parents and caregivers.
    
    The worst part is that the wee tackers know that there is no one coming to help.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:04am
  - kevn
    
    It’s good the horrid didn’t ‘paywall/premium’ this shocking story.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:41am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Damo, you nailed it with “At the heart of it all: the place where a defenceless infant or toddler should be safest is with their family.”
    
    If we want a strong society then supporting strong family units must be the priority. It doesn’t have to be the nuclear family, the Asian model of inter generational family units appears to give the best outcomes. Māori appear to have the weakest family structures, with very fluid sharing of children.
    
    The left have always wanted to diminish the power of the family. The state must be all powerful. It is why they attacked Family First over their charitable status. In that regard I have some sympathy for Māori wanting to wrest control away from failed state agencies. The state will never be able to fix this issue.
    
    Do any of our current political parties put families at the heart of their policy making? How much richer would society be if incentives were provided for primary caregivers to spend less time in the workforce and more time with their children? Instead of free childcare to incentivise the opposite behaviour.
    
    RSE shouldn’t denigrate non-nuclear families but the celebration of queer family, gangs etc is not reinforcing values that build strong successful societies.
    
    If you are serious about change then ask your MPs what are they doing to ensure families are supported and strengthened.
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:56pm
    - sirknz
      
      How much richer would society be if incentives were provided for primary caregivers to spend less time in the workforce and more time with their children? Instead of free childcare to incentivise the opposite behaviour.
      ******
      
      “Because make GDP number go up is good for country, mean I make good economy decision for you.”
      
      At least that’s what idiot politicians trumpet to an ever ignorant public,
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:56pm
- Scooter
  
  We’ve just had a report about abuse in care but it’s still happening and made possible by Oranga Tamariki. How they could put a child with 2 violent drug addicts that weren’t even allowed to look after their own children. Forget about 50 years ago and sort out what can be prevented now.
  
  “Casino’s ‘chaotic’ and ‘terrifying’ last weeks in Gisborne:
  Justice Andru Isac’s sentencing notes show that just one of Wharehinga and McClutchie’s five children, aged from 8 months to 9 years, was legally allowed to be in their day-to-day care.
  
  McClutchie and Amy Wharehinga were both addicted to alcohol, cannabis and methamphetamine.”
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:59am
  - John Loveridge
    
    If ever there was a case for some kind of license before you’re permitted to breed, this is it.
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:46am
- SmokerGuy
  
  It’s almost impossible to believe we have a political party (the Greens too) that is willing to prioritise something above the safety of a child. How can anything come above that? They literally find it acceptable for a child to be harmed or even killed as long as they are with family and have cultural needs as a priority. It’s difficult to come to any other conclusion based on what they say. Appalling!!
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:10am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Oxymoron: a contradiction of terms
  E.g. State care.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:21am
  - artemisia
    
    Oxy – sharp; Moron – blunt.
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:48am
- peterwn
  
  Karen gets her profile boosted while MSM and TMP are starting to look like a bunch of twits.
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:20am
  - Paulus
    
    Starting to look like a bunch of twits ?…………!
    They have been there and back for a long time now.
    I saw TV3Stuff last evening for the first time and other than the obvious older fat political one ex the failed programme, for which she must take some responsibility, the new entries look quite good.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:27pm
- G152
  
  Actually there are many sad stories of children ‘returned’ to relatives but no-one mentions them
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:25am
- Gravelroad
  
  I would like to know how much cash and other benefits do these so-called “carers” get paid by Oranga Tamariki (via the taxpayer) to take in these babies?
  And if there is payment, how is it managed?
  If I, as a taxpayer, am contributing to the needs of children in the care of meth and alcohol addicted aunties and uncles, how do I know if any of this money is spent on the child?
  Or does it go straight to the drug dealers.
  
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  July 27, 2024 2:01pm
Bridgenag

Friday Funnies: The Logical Fallacy
Stop the steal

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/friday-funnies-the-logical-fallacy?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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July 27, 2024 8:37am
Mrs_Right

The Olympics Opening Ceremony reminds me of a drag show on a boat :/

Very disappointing.
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July 27, 2024 8:48am
- pdm
  
  I did not watch much of it but I did see a Refugee team.
  
  How does that work?
  
  I always understood the Olympics to require entries from Countries.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:53am
  - Conservatarian
    
    In Barcelona 1992 we had the Unified team – also known as the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) – which was composed of 12 of the former Soviet Union constituent republics (Russia + 11 others, but not Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania).
    
    Later, communists adopted the phrase “CIS” to mean all of us who aren’t transvestites and trans-sexuals.
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:45am
kowtow

Ardie Savea gives a Pacific only press conference .

Where’s the outrage , oh there isn’t any , because in Pacific tradition one respects the hosts wishes.

Is NZ not a host and isn’t there such a thing as NZ values anyone.

‘Diversity’ is wonderful then ,innit ,when open values of inclusivity and equality can be so easily dismissed.
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July 27, 2024 8:51am
- pdm
  
  But but kowtow.
  
  John Campbell was there.
  
  Representing the arrogant and insufferable I guess.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:55am
  - kowtow
    
    Reported to have been a polite gatecrasher .But that’s ok as he’s such a massive supporter of Pacifica rugby .
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:04am
Grunter

The Deep States failed assassination attempt on Trump seems to be unravelling by the day. The latest is the USSS admit that they declined to use drones that day despite that being standard practise at such an event.

So they let the Patsy use a drone 2 hours before the shooting but didn’t use their own drones.

As usual the MSM are sucking up the official story, which kinda confirms the lie.
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July 27, 2024 9:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Certain parts of the Secret Service and the local Police were in on the act.
  Crooks was groomed.
  I still have not found out how Crooks got the disassembled gun past security. I assume the gun was not assembled. Did he hide the gun a few days before? Did the SS just give it to him?
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:09am
  - nova
    
    He was outside the security perimeter. The building he was on top of was on the other side of the fence from the rally.
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:21pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Security need a dose of common sense. 130 yards away from Trump is outside the security perimeter? An AR is fairly accurate even to 250 yards.
      Inside job and Crooks was groomed.
      
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      July 27, 2024 1:26pm
      - nova
        
        You asked how he got the gun past security. And the answer is that he didn’t. He didn’t take his gun into the fenced off area which was guarded by metals detectors. If you define security perimeter to mean something different to this then you can draw different conclusions, but the simple answer is that he got his gun to where he took the shot because by definition it was not a secure area. If it was secure he wouldn’t have been able to get his gun there.
        
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        July 27, 2024 2:17pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Nova,
        So he must have know in advance what was secure and what was not.
        How did he know?
        
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        July 27, 2024 4:24pm
      - Colville
        
        FFS Steve he could have walked into Walmart and purchased the gun and ammo that day.
        If he’d had planned this he would have purchased suitable rifle and ammo for kevlar and gone for a throat shot.
        Trump would now be dead.
        
        Grow up.
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:52pm
      - Ghost
        
        There is no point debating Steve on this topic. He’s shown he has no desire to know the facts, just wants to make shit up and believe everything he reads. He’s really showing what an idiot he is.
        
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        July 27, 2024 6:15pm
      - RichardX
        
        Ghost
        There is no point debating Steve on this topic. He’s shown he has no desire to know the facts, just wants to make shit up and believe everything he reads. He’s really showing what an idiot he is.
        
        July 27, 2024 6:15pm
        
        I don’t know why you thought you needed the qualifier “on this topic”
        
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        July 27, 2024 11:42pm
    - Quail
      
      nova and S . O
      There needs to be strong questioning as to why the building that gave the shooter such easy access to the podium was outside the marked red secret service perimeter?
      And also who created that perimeter line?
      Particularly ,when the secret service perimeter line was clearly adjusted with a big V at that point to place the building outside their area of influence.
      Of interest!
      
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      July 27, 2024 5:52pm
  - Conservatarian
    
    To distract, you just need to get Wray to throw meat to the crazed leftist bloggers by suggesting it is unclear whether Trump was hit by a bullet. Just one of the many things he is unclear about.
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:43pm
  - Paulus
    
    Probably just stuffed it down his trouser leg !
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:40pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Inside job! The building over there is the one you want to get on the roof of sonny. Oh by the way, here is your gun and ammo, your Dad gave it to us.
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:26pm
      - AitchW
        
        Is it possible that the secure area was advertised in advance? If tickets were needed to get in it would make sense that a site plan would be available to ticket holders.
        “To get into the secure area you will require a valid ticket and agree to the terms and conditions.”
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:50pm
All_on_Red

‘The press is spinning Kamala Harris’s candidacy wildly, to the extent of issuing “corrections” of news items from several years ago that touted her appointment as Joe Biden’s border “czar.” But where does the race actually stand, as it begins to get under way?’

‘The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that, in a two-way matchup, 50% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for Trump, while 43% would vote for Harris. Four percent (4%) say they’d vote for some other candidate and three percent (3%) are undecided.’

Likely Voters are more accurate than Registered Voters
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/election_2024_trump_50_harris_43
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July 27, 2024 9:01am
- Grunter
  
  I see the Obamas have now openly supported the Cackling One.
  
  The Dems will be slaughtered in a proper election.
  
  Which just means there won’t be a ‘proper election’
  
  Their Plan A failed (put Trump in jail).
  
  Their Plan B failed (shoot Trump).
  
  Grab the popcorn for Plans C, D and……
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:13am
  - Burtland
    
    obama going for another 4 years
    – looking a bit like a putin rein
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:36am
    - gravedodger
      
      Might that be reign Burt?
      
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      July 27, 2024 10:43am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Endorsed reluctantly
    Check out this leak; “Obama’s very upset because he knows she can’t win,” a Biden family source told the New York Post. “Obama knows she’s just incompetent — the border czar who never visited the border, saying that all migrants should have health insurance. She cannot navigate the landmines that are ahead of her.”
    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/07/26/barack-obama-finally-endorses-kamala-n4931087
    Apparently he wanted Arizona Senator (and ex Astronaut) Mark Kelly
    
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    July 27, 2024 9:45am
  - JackRabbit
    
    I hope she loses….
    
    C: Rig the votes as they did in 2020. (its a given)
    
    D: Postpone the election because of Bird Flu Pandemic, and takeover from Biden.
    
    E: Postpone the election because of a ‘knife edge’ confrontation and ‘threat of nuclear war’ with Russia, and takeover from Biden.
    
    F: Rig the votes as they did in 2020. Kamala’s “enthusiasm” will be 1000% of that of Biden, so she will raise 10x as many dead people from their graves to vote for the Dems as Biden did in 2020.
    
    G: All those refugees that are coming over the southern border, will no doubt all vote for her.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:16am
- imalwaysright
  
  Says here she was Border Czar:
  https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hres253/BILLS-118hres253ih.pdf
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I am pretty sure that Obama wants Kamala out of the race so he can put Big Mike in.
  Obama the puppeteer can’t control the unpredictable Harris, so Big Mike.
  Either that or he has been told by someone else (Hillary) that she is going to win the nomination. Yeah both Obamas have endorsed Harris.
  Democrats cheat we know. Watch the voting at the nominee selection. It will not be fair.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:23am
- NothingLeft
  
  “hindu nuffin” Kamala. A play on USA’s ‘dindu nuffin’ criminals who loudly claim that they didn’t do anything when arrested.
  
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  July 27, 2024 1:47pm
  - Mike
    
    Officially Baptist, but a secret Hindu you think?
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:18pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Kamala was indian american until it became more politically advantageous to claim she was african american. She has an (elite) Jamaican father who had Irish+Jamaican parents. So she is half indian, quarter irish, quarter mixed-breed Jamaican (one of whom was a 19th century European slave owner).
      
      In other words much less than a quarter ‘african’
      
      None of which should matter in an ideal world. But her race has been made a key ‘virtue’ by the racist left.
      
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      July 27, 2024 3:07pm
      - Mike
        
        Not Black Enough?
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:26pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Kamala’s ancestry is far more dominantly Indian or Irish before it is African. She is trying to borrow prestige from something that is a small fraction of her genetics. Ie both toxic and bullshit.
        
        Kids; remember to choose your ancestry carefully, it’s what defines you value as a person in the brave new fucked-up world the regressive left are foisting upon us.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:40pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Are you sure she has no Maori blood, like 1/8192?
        That’s enough for a Waitangi Tribunal Claim!
        
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        July 27, 2024 4:32pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Careful Mike with the “Black” bit. Someone might report you for racism.
        The colour means nothing. My partner is 23% Pacific Island, Tonga, Samoa, and Hawaii, yet she is whiter than me and gets sunburn very easily.
        
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        July 27, 2024 4:34pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Not another Irish-American President?
        
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        July 27, 2024 7:12pm
Grumpy Silver Top

An email received this morning detailed a 2 cylinder engine that is designed to power a car by running very efficiently to drive an electric motor. https://www.obrist.at/engineering
This Austrian company is designing an energy efficient future without heavy batteries.
Not a dreamer.
“The “trick” here: The mini-engine is not connected to the vehicle’s drivetrain at all, but is used solely for power generation, feeding an electric motor that drives the vehicle via a compact buffer battery. “HyperHybrid combines the advantages of electric mobility with the simplicity of the familiar refuelling process, thereby solving the problem of range anxiety that is inherently associated with electric cars,” explains Frank Obrist, who has been developing the HyperHybrid concept with his team since 2011. The vehicle runs on conventional fuel (petrol or e-fuels) from any gas station. Fuel consumption is very low at around 1.5 litres per 100 kilometres, and the range (without refuelling or recharging) is over 1,000 kilometres. Therefore, unlike pure electric mobility, this hybrid does not require a new charging infrastructure. It also eliminates the need for the large and heavy battery packs required for electric cars, and the significant environmental impact inevitably associated with their production.”
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July 27, 2024 9:17am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Isnt this pretty much the same as the Nissan epower system that they’ve been building for the last 5 years. Seems a very good solution.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:40am
  - peterwn
    
    Interesting twist here. Presumably the two cylinder engine would either be ‘off’ or running at most efficient speed which is why it would be economical. The battery size would probably be larger than the developers think. The test is could the arrangement get the car from Dunedin to Waikouaiti (over the Kilmog etc) assuming a full battery to start with.
    Nissan had an interesting approach. They considered that having a constant speed engine would be psychologically confusing for the driver and the engine speed needed to be proportional to the vehicle speed, this aspect being of larger concern than achieving optimum engine efficiency by running the engine at a constant speed. Now I would have thought that negated the whole idea of an efficient hybrid vehicle.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:39am
  - greybeard
    
    Old technology, been around for years.
    
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    July 27, 2024 4:18pm
- Burtland
  
  tesla with a generator…
  
  https://x.com/brechtcastel/status/1570425739811459075
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:41am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Backup in case of low battery.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:23am
    - peterwn
      
      No. The idea is to use a much smaller battery than that used for EV’s and typical hybrids.
      
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      July 27, 2024 12:16pm
- trout
  
  An improvement on this I guess.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHhf223jGIE&ab_channel=WarpedPerception
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:47am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Wacky to say the least.
    
    Like buying an Apple Mac and running a Windows emulator 100% of the time because you like Windows, but want to be able to say you have an Apple Mac.
    
    Or being a guy and “identifying” as a lesbian women so he can keep shagging women.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:27am
- JackRabbit
  
  Hydrid cars as you mention, have been around in popular mechanics and science magazines, and prototypes for 4 decades.
  
  In concept it is no different to existing hybrids with small batteries and an electric drive train e.g. Toyota Prius, which are practical applications of those ideas from 40 years ago.
  
  Both output power and fuel consumption are similar to a prius.
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:04am
- kowtow
  
  What of the compressed air powered cars .
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:37am
  - JackRabbit
    
    It’s a lot of hot air.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This link go directly to the hybrid:
  
  https://www.obrist.at/powertrain/
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:29am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Quite interesting. I will have a go at tearing it apart this arvo.
    When it said tow cylinder I was thinking a modern Bradford or CV2!
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:39am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Many Toyota Prius drive slow and accelerate like a 90 year old snail. My theory being that they are trying to get the fuel economy figures they bragged to their friends they would get, in support of their virtue signalling. Don’t get me wrong they are efficient, just not to the degree that most people expect.
    
    Many years ago I bought a Toyota Corolla Wagon, and installed a vacuum gauge. By driving to the vacuum gauge and pissing off as many drivers as Toyota Prius drivers do today, I got fuel economy figures they say you can get with a Toyota Prius.
    
    But, like going on a diet of water and rice crackers, it is unsustainable if you need to do heavy lifting, or get everywhere on time.
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:17pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Designing a high efficiency IC engine range-extending generator for a car could lift the engine efficiency into the 45-50% range from typical 30% ish range of current general-purpose petrol engines. Which would be definitely worth doing.
  
  Plug in hybrids should be a lot cheaper and more efficient, with no range-anxiety. They could get by with 100-150km range batteries for 95-99% of the time and 30kW motors designed to run optimally at one speed when battery range is insufficient, ideally with no expensive catalytic converters (they will be used a tiny fraction of the time and mostly only rurally). The emissions standards should be reduced greatly for range-extenders to make them cheaper and more efficient (increases efficiency by about 5% to run them very lean, which can’t do with expensive 3-way catalytic converters needed for current emission regs)
  
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  July 27, 2024 3:13pm
- Quail
  
  See Caterpillar D 7 E .The same system , which simplifies the transmission hugely.
  
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  July 27, 2024 6:04pm
Grunter

I see the US Congress gave more than 50 standing ovations to the nut job Netanyahu.

Here is a man with no end game plan or vision and is openly saying he wants to “mow the lawn” when referring to people. And the corrupt US Congress applauds wildly. Overwhelming support for full on collective punishment. That is simply evil.

And no, that does not make me a Hamas supporter. Both sides are now obviously evil and zero chance this mess will stop any time soon.
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July 27, 2024 9:22am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Israel is not evil. Our PM joined Marxist Albo and the Candian PM in calling for a cease-fire will Hammas has hostages,
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:25am
- imalwaysright
  
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  Agree.
  Nettanyahu is a self serving prick who is corrupt and is exposing innocent Israelis and Palestinians to mortal danger while fomenting war in the middle east.
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:24pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hamas are self serving pricks who are corrupt and are exposing innocent Israelis and Palestinians to mortal danger while fomenting war in the middle east.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:58pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Plagiarist.
      
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      July 27, 2024 3:01pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Just fixing it for you
        Balance and all that.
        But agree Netanyahu is a bad un. Be good when his time is up.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:20pm
  - Mike
    
    What can he do? He can only stay in power, and out of jail, by continuing the war.
    
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    July 27, 2024 3:25pm
Burtland

seems like banning semi-automatic guns is not so important when an ex-president gets shot – crickets – unconscious bias?
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July 27, 2024 9:30am
TripeWryter

I think that part of Oranga Tamariki’s incompetence can be laid at the feet of Kelvin Davis and the Maori Ladies and Dames who agitated for the, in effect, Maori take-over of the department.
You might remember the TV documentary of a few years ago by Melanie Reid of an attempted ‘uplift’ of a Maori newborn from her mother.
It caused a huge wave of sympathy for the mother and outrage against the department.
I was one of those.
It provided a huge excuse for ‘by Maori for Maori’.
They were best-placed to deal with these matters than a Pakeha-run government department.
Adding their influential voices were a group of senior Maori Dames and Ladies.
Kelvin Davis was appointed Minister in Charge of Oranga Tamariki.
He quickly got rid of Grainne Moss, the blonde, blue-eyed Irishwoman who was running the show, and replaced her with Sir Harawira Gardiner, and when he became too ill to continue, the reins were handed to Chappie Te Kani.
I heard Heather du Plessis-Allen, by then a new mother, interview – him – or try to interview him – over how Malachi Subecz came to be put with a woman who beat him to death.
He could not give straight, honest answers. In the end Ms du Plessis-Allen gave up and almost slammed down the phone in tearful frustration.
So many babies. So many infants. So many toddlers – all put with people who beat them to death.
How have we come to this?
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July 27, 2024 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Kelvin Davis and the Maori Ladies and Dames’
  
  Don’t forget the enablers were the honkey’s in charge , Ardern Robertson, Hipkins , parker etc
  
  They are the traitors to the constitution allowing in as many aspects as they could across society, tribal “values” over true democracy .
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:33am
- Damocles11
  
  It is odd that a government department meant to protect *all* New Zealand children has basically been handed over to de facto Maori control. The needless name change to ‘Oranga Tamariki’ has caused nothing but angst and confusion.
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    If Maori don’t get control such as ‘Oranga Tamariki’ they just bring out the race card.
    Am I wrong in saying that? It is the truth.
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:57am
  - NothingLeft
    
    More accurately; “black and blue Tamariki”.
    
    They just need to stop pandering to ‘progressive’ (more like regressive) racists and misandrists and focus on best outcomes for the kids. In a shit load more cases that will mean adopting them out to capable NZers who have their lives together, actually contribute to the country and who will maintain good standards of care and actually give a shit about the children. The far-left victimology agenda can fuck all the way off.
    
    There’s an epidemic of childless middle age women who would likely eagerly take up the slack.
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:55pm
- imalwaysright
  
  If the underclass subset of maori were to suddenly value their children, education , employment , and themselves, there would be nothing for the bloodsucking gravy trainers to use as an excuse to get their fetid snouts into billions of dollars of public money.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:47am
  - Paulus
    
    The problem may well be related to the standard of up bringing, and perhaps poor, or lack of it, education which has led to these women and the ability to desicrate their young children.
    It has to stop, but I do not think it can as hereditary and cultural issues prevail predominantly.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:54pm
- greybeard
  
  Every single Govt agency which has been renamed to some maori description has failed.
  A bit like giving the Warriors such a jingoistic name when they were formed.
  Guaranteed to fail.
  
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  July 27, 2024 4:28pm
- AitchW
  
  I too heard that interview. It was a train wreck. Chappie had clearly been promoted past his level of competence many times over.
  His answers were evasive at best. He gave the impression of someone who had been told to stick to the party line and he gave the same meaningless answer over and and over. HDPA was clearly totally pissed off with his obfuscation.
  God help us all if he is typical of the management at Oranga Tamariki.
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:06pm
Swifty

Is Kamala Harris a workplace bully -she’s got a 90%+ staff turnover since she took office:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13673913/kamala-harris-soul-destroying-bully.html

Will Stuff, The Herald or RNZ pick up this story? I won’t hold my breath.
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July 27, 2024 9:34am
- MCōs
  
  I have no idea what goes on in Kamala Harris’s office, but I started working in a section of large NZ engineering company in 2005 on the same day as another guy.
  After about two or three years, on my last day, he pointed out that apart from the top echelon there’d been a complete staff turnover in the time we’d been there.
  Basically people had moved on to advance their careers.
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:35pm
  - Taieri
    
    In the last 3 years I had 5 different employers. In the 47 years before that I had 3 different employers.
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:02pm
  - Mike
    
    Staff turnover might not be the best attack line against Harris on behalf of Trump.
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:58pm
  - Paulus
    
    As a one time employer we were disappointed by the loss to our competitors of some of our best people, but at least we knew we did our job well with these people, and often congratulated them on such new appointments.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:57pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘”People are thrown under the bus from the very top, there are short fuses and it’s an abusive environment,” said a Harris campaign source told Politico.
  
  “It’s not a healthy environment and people often feel mistreated. It’s not a place where people feel supported but a place where people feel treated like s—.”
  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-labeled-soul-destroying-bully-by-former-staff-due-to-toxic-behavior/ar-BB1qHGJ8
  
  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Te Mana O Te Wai.
3 waters with another name. Luxon says 3 waters was repealed. Really Luxon?
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July 27, 2024 9:41am
- Damocles11
  
  To be honest, the last government probably got a legal opinion that Maori ‘own the water’. At what point they own it….is it when it’s falling, or when it hits your roof, or when it trickles into a stream or river….who knows…but Mahuta got a legal opinion and it’s never been released. The Taxpayers Union wrote to Attorney General Judith Collins to ask for it to be released as it is a matter of public interest, and she has refused to do so. Likely because her and Luxon have concluded it would be ‘divisive’ to do so. So the public sit here like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed the proverbial. And water rights will be quietly removed from us, and our journey to becoming second class citizens will continue. You can see Luxon is desperate to tip toe around these issues, and just let everything proceed incrementally….he has got Potaka sitting behind him a few seats away in Parliament, keeping an eagle eye in every move he makes.
  
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  July 27, 2024 9:58am
  - wsk12345
    
    Nah. If the opinion said the bros owned the water Mahoota would have been shouting it from the rooftops. More likely it’s gone in the shredder.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:20am
    - kowtow
      
      Not in the shredder .
      
      Regional councils pushing this .
      
      Bigly story , hugely ignored by te media paahti.
      
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      July 27, 2024 10:35am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      @kowtow,
      
      You are right. Councils are all over it like flies on shit, yet te media paahti silence is deafening!
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:37pm
  - Taieri
    
    Maori ‘own the water’
    ————-
    
    An interesting concept. Wonder what the water ownership structure is in detail?
    But why restrict it just to water? The air above and around Aotearoa is also taonga. It is filled with Mauri, since life would not be possible without it. It’s a high time to consolidate the status of air in accordance with the principles of Te Tiriti.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:21am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      They can shove the “Principles.”
      It is the Articles, the three Articles that make the Treaty of Waitangi, and that is all, just the three Articles!
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:39pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Luxon and Potaka are Maori activists. Judith Collins will do as she is told or lose her Ministerial Warrants.
    3 waters repealed? I don’t think so Tim. It is slowly being eroded away from us, just as the Waitangi Tribunal has been rorting us since 1975.
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:46am
- Yvette
  
  Te Mana o te Wai draws on a te ao Māori perspective to recognise the whole-of-system approach to wai, from maunga to moana, or ki uta ki tai. This all of system approach consists of the fundamentals of tīkanga, mātauranga and kaitiakitanga Māori,  which is a unique approach for Aotearoa and all New Zealanders.
  
  […]
  
  The Taumata Arowai Māori Advisory Group, Te Puna, will provide support and guidance to Taumata Arowai, our Board, Chief Executive and organisation on Māori interests and knowledge as they relate to Taumata Arowai objectives, functions and operating principles. An important part of this will be to engage and work meaningfully with whānau, hapū and iwi.
  Embedding Te Mana o te Wai will require a close relationship between Taumata Arowai, mana whenua and kaitiaki who are best placed to advise on the tikanga and mātauranga which underpin Te Mana o te Wai and Te Tiriti o Waitangi interests.
  https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz/te-mana-o-te-wai/
  
  This and more still features on the Taumata Arowai – Water Regulator – website.
  So the Maori religious worldview remains and appears untouched by National Coalition policy.
  
  The New Zealand Government and all its services should be secular!
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Untouched, and that is the way it will stay until the Waitangi Tribunal is demolished so we are not exploited anymore.
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:50am
    - Yvette
      
      “that is the way it will stay until the Waitangi Tribunal is demolished”
      
      – not if the Government passed a law confirming it, the Government and all its services are secular.
      Such a law would cut out “principles” of the Treaty that are religious add-ons, karakia revision, te Mana o te Wai advisory council, public blessings, much of the views enforced in the Pharmacy union constitution, education and the New Zealand Film Commission, and of course the utter Maorification of NZOA.
      
      As above –
      Maori religious worldview remains and appears untouched by National Coalition policy.
      The New Zealand Government and all its services should be secular!
      
      (Steve, I have not downticked your comment – that is some else’s doing)
      
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      July 27, 2024 12:14pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yvette. There are three Articles. Three that were signed to. The first Principles were introduced by idiot Geoffrey Palmer. They are non defining by design. There are now over 30 Principles. They are NOT part of the original Treaty that the Chiefs signed.
      The Waitangi Tribunal has distorted the meanings of those Articles. That is why and how the Tribunal was set up – to extort the Net Taxpayer.
      Three Articles are all that matter.
      
      [Mod – cut out your little attacks]
      
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      July 27, 2024 1:33pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Mod, my comment at 1.33. I guess you mean calling Geoffrey Palmer an idiot?
      That is my opinion.
      
      [Mod – no, it’s the little snarky comments you direct at people on this blog, and it is going to stop]
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:42pm
  - pdm
    
    Taumata Arowai should have gone with the first 3/5/10/All/Mahuta waters clean out.
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:41pm
  - Dave
    
    “… which is a unique approach for Aotearoa and all New Zealanders.”
    
    Once again we have the dubious assumption that things unique to Aotearoa are good for all NZers, without any supporting evidence that this is a reasonable and relevant judgement.
    
    I suspect that suppliers of drinking water, whether in Berlin, Baghdad, Beijing, Bogota, Brazzaville, etc use internationally recognised, non-unique, science-based processes for detecting and eliminating water impurities such as e.choli and and nitrates, while we in Aotearoa congratulate ourselves in supplying water with our unique but non-existent mauri.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:07pm
    - greybeard
      
      https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
      If everyone else’s water is so bad how come humans are breeding and surviving at an ever increasing rate ?
      NZ water is just fine. Time to move on.
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:26pm
  - Paulus
    
    And we pay people such as these to spend their paid hours writing such crap !
    And there are many of them too.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:48pm
Matt Long

A surprising good statement on Gaza from the Leftist colonial Prime Ministers.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350357357/luxon-albanese-and-trudeau-say-gaza-ceasefire-desperately-needed
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July 27, 2024 9:47am
- Benedict Yu
  
  ““The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue.””
  
  Indeed. The Hamas leaders living in luxury in Qatar should instruct all Hamas combatants to surrender unconditionally to the IDF.
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:20am
  - kowtow
    
    Not to mention their evil backers in Tehran , the ones masquerading as religious clerics .
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:54am
  - Drone
    
    And the Americans should stop supplying weapons and logistical support to Israel.
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:15pm
    - Quail
      
      Sorry Drone, meant to be a downtick
      
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      July 27, 2024 9:59pm
- Grunter
  
  I agree – a decent statement. Not realistic of course. It is exactly what should happen but neither side involved will stop. And as these 3 say, the alternative risks further escalation.
  
  I suspect they see what is about to happen – full scale regional war involving Iran and who knows what happens then…..
  
  The US Congress will continue to fund and clap hysterically. Hamas will continue to pray for death and slaughter.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:37am
  - All_on_Red
    
    When you say full scale war, what exactly do you think Iran could do? (I think there’s a regional war on already btw)
    I ask because Iran fired 300 missiles and drones and only a few got through.
    Israel’s Allies all helped to defend against that.
    Then Israel fired one stealth cruise missile and destroyed a S400 site on the airfield which guards Irans Nuclear Facility. Iran didnt even see it coming and couldnt stop it.
    Iran then went quiet.
    So genuine question. What could Iran do in the face of that?
    Their airforce is rubbish, their navy, well they dont really have a navy and they have no way of transporting troops to invade Israel.
    If they fire more drones then this will happen to them.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/idf-says-struck-several-houthi-targets-yemen-response-attacks-rcna162843
    So what then?
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:52pm
    - Mike
      
      So, is Iran virtually defenseless but at the same time an existential threat to Israel?
      
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      July 27, 2024 2:02pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Yes
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:03pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        Exactly.
        It’s a good way to spot propaganda, individually each story may sound plausible but try fitting the whole narrative together over time and you notice that the pieces just don’t fit.
        It’s the same with Russia. Putin is a sick and foolish tyrant, his army is on the verge of mutiny, the population will soon rebel, his tanks and artillery are old junk nearly exhausted, the economy is going to collapse and also just as soon as he finishes of Ukraine he will attack the rest of Europe.
        
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        July 27, 2024 6:42pm
      - AitchW
        
        A schoolyard bully who goes running to teacher when he gets a bloodied nose from one decent punch.
        
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        July 27, 2024 8:08pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Iran most likely has a growing arsenal of nukes and the means to launch them 1000’s of km. Baring a major nuclear first strike there is no safe way to fight a war with them without high probability of wiping Israel from existence.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:00pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Do they though?
      Seems to be mixed reports on how far they have got.
      
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      July 27, 2024 3:04pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Once you have fissiles building bombs is relatively easy with modern machine tools, and there are a lot of highly intelligent persians.
        
        The limitation is highly enriched uranium or plutonium, but Iran has had large scale enrichment programs running for a decade (with interruptions like Stuxnet), and has reactors producing plutonium that can be more easily chemically separated (a lot easier if you have a few Jihadis who don’t mind dying from radiation sickness). They for sure have enough bomb-fissiles for at least a few warheads, and maybe enough for 10’s to 100’s.
        
        Most western govts want to downplay the danger due to not wanting to be put on the spot to do something about it – which has potential to go wrong in all sorts of ways.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:24pm
    - Mike
      
      Possibly Biden’s biggest foreign policy mistake was not reengaging the nuclear deal with Iran.
      
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      July 27, 2024 3:11pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        The biggest mistake has been allowing a regime run by people who fervently believe that dying in the name of Allah is a good thing (and wiping out all Jews is an imperative) to develop nuclear weapons.
        
        Only non-theocratic democracies should be allowed (to develop) nukes.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:28pm
      - Mike
        
        You might not be happy with Pakistan and India either. Both have a high risk of theocratic regimes.
        The US had good opportunities to halt the North Korean weapons program in the 1990s and the Iranian one in the 2010s, but tossed away the chances.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:40pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Correct, I’m not happy about anyone with a worldview that treats ‘others’ as lesser due to immutable characteristics/birth having nukes – like Islamic view of Infidels or Indians and their evil dirty-by-birth caste system. Han supremacist Xi worries me also, but they are at least pragmatic and place some value on life, something that is less assured with Islamic Theocracy.
        
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        July 27, 2024 7:02pm
I remember when

The village of Congham England, hosted 85 garden snails this month for the World Snail Racing Championships.
Each of the heats began with a snail master saying, “Ready, steady, slow!”
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July 27, 2024 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  No need to build expensive athlete’s village , they brought theirs with them.
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:30am
Maggy Wassilieff

She’s another sister from Taitokerau who stood by her man,” she says.

https://waateanews.com/2024/07/26/pati-sits-by-mp-while-she-stands-by-her-man/

Sometimes it’s hard to be a woman
Givin’ all your love to just one man
You’ll have the bad times
And he’ll have the good times
Doing things that you don’t understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM-b8P1yj9w
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July 27, 2024 10:14am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Holy crap that is nauseating. 🤯
  
  The exiled MP now has the pronoun “them”. 😭
  
  It is like the Maori Party is grooming her to join their gang. 🤡 “hey come and sit with us.” 😳
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:28am
  - AitchW
    
    Nauseating indeed. If she joins the Maori party doesn’t that change the proportionality of the house?
    How the hell does an unelected MP have the ability to increase the Maori party’s percentage?
    This makes a mockery of the rules.
    
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    July 27, 2024 8:15pm
    - Ghost
      
      She isn’t unelected. List mp’s are elected. You cannot be an mp without being elected, either in an electorate seat or a list.
      
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      July 27, 2024 8:34pm
      - AitchW
        
        How many Green voters, I wonder, when they ticked Green Party vote looked at the list and thought that Darleen Tana looked like a jolly good bet for an MP?
        At best, like any list MP from any party, she’s accidentally elected. She has no mandate to stay.
        
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        July 27, 2024 9:28pm
      - Ghost
        
        Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. She’s there unless the greens decide to use the waka jump on her
        
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        July 28, 2024 12:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So will JT invite her?
  Oh, I think her man has gone walkabout.
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:07pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    JT would see her as management material.
    Perfect CV for the maori party!
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:40pm
- John Loveridge
  
  Darleen is a strong argument in favour of the three year term.
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:33pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Meh, she’s just another waste-of-space far left MP sucking on taxpayer tit. Whatever the flavour they are destructive, but she’ll probably do less damage as an outcast than the coordinated 5th-columnist Greens or Te Racists.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:03pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Green Party in Chch this weekend…

I wonder how many will read Graham Adams’ latest offering:

That is what poses the biggest existential threat to the Greens: the growing perception they are — despite their lofty rhetoric about principles and morals — first-class hypocrites.

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/07/graham-adams-chloe-swarbricks-education.html
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July 27, 2024 10:25am
- peterwn
  
  The Greens are trying to be far too democratic. Their ‘Shepherd’ needs a decent Border Collie to keep the whole lot in order and going in the correct direction. This excessive ‘democracy’ could be the party’s downfall in the longer term.
  https://www.reddit.com/r/BorderCollie/comments/ozxtg8/the_far_side/#lightbox
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:47am
  - greybeard
    
    That is exactly what I emailed to HDPA yesterday:
    ” Chloe Swarbrick is proving every minute that she is NOT a leader.
    If she can’t make decisions without the approval of the rest of her party then she is not a Leader but a Follower.”
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:58am
    - AitchW
      
      To be fair that’s how the Green work. Almost every decision has to be approved by the rank and file of the party.
      God help us if they are ever called on in government to make a quick decision on a matter of national security or biosecurity.
      
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      July 27, 2024 8:24pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Well I am sure they all travelled to Chistchurch in planes burning thousands of kg of JET A1 and jumped into the first available cab at the airport.
  
  They are now seated in a convention centre constructed by CIS men from concrete, with all the associated emissions. They will yack on their cellphones full of rare earth minerals mined by children.
  
  Then there will eat lunch from crops harvested with diesel powered machinery and fertilised by fertiliser made from natural gas.
  
  So no “hypocrites” does not even begin describe them 😂 Without petroleum, they would be dead, or if they were among the few survivors, they would be living in huts, living a subsistence lifestyle, short of protein and everything else that makes up civilisation.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:02am
  - All_on_Red
    
    “they would be living in huts, living a subsistence lifestyle, short of protein and everything else that makes up civilisation”
    Rather like pre Colonial Maori
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:45am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      What the white man did is so rude.
      Their great lifestyle destroyed.
      
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      July 27, 2024 12:16pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Douglas Murray puts it very eloquently.
        (Only 3 minutes.)
        
        https://youtu.be/2OwElZf9EV4?si=_y4Sx1e9Zw2GPtvr
        
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        July 27, 2024 12:47pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        imalwaysright,
        He mentions Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an alternative cruelty argument.
        Off topic, but I had an Aunty from Hiroshima. She saw it all, lost most of her family and ended up an orphan. My Uncle met her in Tokyo during the Korean War. He brought her to NZ. Aunty Meniko would never talk about what she saw. Too painful.
        
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        July 27, 2024 1:43pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        S.O
        Its hard to imagine what it was like going through that for her.
        It certainly puts the so-called victims of today into perspective. Especially in this country.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:06pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        imalwaysright at 3.06,
        
        Yes, if I asked she would just give me a hug and sit down with her eyes closed – reliving it.
        Lovely woman.
        
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        July 27, 2024 4:46pm
    - pdm
      
      `Rather like pre Colonial Maori’
      
      Except with composting toilets as per Jeanette Fitzsimons.
      
      Are they a COLONIAL CONSTRUCT?
      
      If so more hypocrisy.
      
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      July 27, 2024 12:50pm
    - gravedodger
      
      Pre Colonial Maori had Huts, most images suggest shelters as more accurate.
      
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      July 27, 2024 2:09pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    The herbivorous Greens would be first into the Hangi pit in the brave new world the regressive Maori Supremacist Te Racist Pati hope to create in NZ.
    
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    July 27, 2024 2:06pm
    - AitchW
      
      They’d be awfully bitter…
      
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      July 27, 2024 8:26pm
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  I strongly agree with Graham Adams’ assessment of Green Party MPs’ hypocrisy. They see no irony in using technology that simply does not in any way conform to their Green beliefs. To paraphrase Marie Antoinette: Let them try living in a cave (no building materials) with no hot running water, electricity, sewerage system, no fire, (cannot be burning stuff and releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere), wearing what? etcetera! And don’t forget stone tools, no metals, of course, because you have to damage the land if you mine for ore.
  Our climate is changing, our science community is working on adaptation technologies that go far beyond reducing the release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. They are ill informed numpties: The Greens, that is.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:30am
I remember when

“What can ancient Moa teach us about modern climate change?: RNZ. 26 May 2022.

I guess we are still waiting for the their advice.
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July 27, 2024 10:27am
- Damocles11
  
  lol.
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:46am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Well they are certainly a lesson in how to NOT sustainably manage your primary source of protein.
  
  What is astonishing is how numerous were the moa and how few were the humans.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:59am
  - John Loveridge
    
    There’s this good article on that from a decade ago.
    
    https://www.science.org/content/article/why-did-new-zealands-moas-go-extinct
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:35pm
  - greybeard
    
    Yes ! Just imagine if moa had been carnivorous, the extinct species may have been very different !
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:08pm
- NothingLeft
  
  They teach us that climate is of zero concern compared to other real existential risks (AI!!!!!, nuke war, pathogens), after all they survived dozens of cycles of glaciation and long periods of 5-7°C lower average temperatures during the Quaternary Period we are in the middle of with no trouble.
  
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  July 27, 2024 2:11pm
Chuck Bird

Katrina talks to Rodney Hide.

KATRINA BIGGS: Women’s Rights Activist And Blogger: On Political Leanings, RSE Guidelines In School And The Potential Effects On Society

https://realitycheck.radio/replay/katrina-biggs-womens-rights-activist-and-blogger-on-political-leanings-rse-guidelines-in-school-and-the-potential-effects-on-society/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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July 27, 2024 10:42am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Could you at least provide a precise? What is an “RSE guideline”?
  
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  July 27, 2024 10:54am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    RSE guideline = Relationships and sexuality education
    
    It is about men who claim they are women invading women’s spaces.
    
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    July 27, 2024 10:59am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes I understand the latter.
      
      However are you suggesting that children should not be taught anything about sexuality and relationships? Seems important.
      
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      July 27, 2024 11:08am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        I am saying that children should not be crap by rainbow youth and such groups. Listen to the discussion in the link and see if you agree with Rodney,
        
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        July 27, 2024 11:25am
      - Ghost
        
        Why shouldn’t children know about sexuality and relationships chuck? Do you think gay children should not be taught and made to feel comfortable with who they are?
        
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        July 27, 2024 12:00pm
      - Notsofast
        
        Kermit would add a verse saying it’s not easy being gay.
        Sadly.
        That is why many of them are being sterilized due to the conversion therapy law. Simon Bridges tried to warn parliament in vain, as part of the select committee.
        Louissa Wall showed that she is stupid or evil as lead.
        
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        July 27, 2024 12:03pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No I will skip it thanks. 😂
        
        Are you conflating gay teenagers with indoctrination of children about trans, and the surgical and medical treatment of trans children?
        
        EDIT For those of you who were at school in the 50s 60s and 70s, recall what happened to boys who were suspected of being gay.
        
        The merging of trans activism with the need for resources for gay teenagers has been terrible for the latter.
        
        Gay teens, particularly gay teen boys do need support. If not from “rainbow youth” then who? Their parents? 🤔 Maybe.
        
        How about teaching Maori girls not to shack up with Maori male gang members?
        
        You can’t rely on all parents to give this advice. Too many of them are in their own dysfunctional relationships. Only a minority of New Zealand parents are married.
        
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        July 27, 2024 12:05pm
      - Ghost
        
        I think he is confused. I was at primary school in the 80s and I had a gay friend then who was badly picked on. High school had a friend kicked out of home by his parents for being gay
        
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        July 27, 2024 12:46pm
      - Taieri
        
        For those of you who were at school in the 50s 60s and 70s, recall what happened to boys who were suspected of being gay.
        ————
        
        Nothing. It was simply a non-issue, at least at the schools I’d attended.
        
        (I was in the primary school(s) in 1960’s and secondary school in 1970’s)
        
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        July 27, 2024 12:57pm
      - Rodney Hide
        
        Here is a précis.
        
        https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/rodney-hide-sex-education-wakatipu-high-school-2024
        
        Rodney
        
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        July 27, 2024 1:13pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        This a link to one of the videos. What age would this be appropriate for in your opinion?
        
        Contraception & Protection – The REAL Sex Talk
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i9uZab2nPM&list=PL1qhITQ33Nj_Be3Tacr850sLFXUnsIB2I&index=4
        
        The following link is to many videos.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1qhITQ33Nj_Be3Tacr850sLFXUnsIB2I
        
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        July 27, 2024 1:27pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “What age would this be appropriate for in your opinion?”
        
        It would be helpful if you explained what exactly your problem is, without just posting links to videos.
        
        I don’t know, what age? Is the video about birth control, then I guess 14. If it is about sexuality, then maybe 13. If it is about giving children the option of puberty blockers or surgery to change their gender, then no.
        
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        July 27, 2024 1:38pm
      - Muttonbird
        
        Rodney Hide is right to be concerned. Everyone knows what goes on with youth in the Lakes District.
        
        Not enough Catholic and private schools, you see.
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:35pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Ghost. Listen to Rodney first and I will reply.
      
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      July 27, 2024 12:06pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      BY, Do you have any children as Rodney and I have?
      
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      July 27, 2024 4:28pm
      - Ghost
        
        Just answer the questions, you always avoid answering them.
        
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        July 27, 2024 4:32pm
I remember when

Breast Cancer Survival Not Boosted by Double Mastectomy, Study Says: NY Times.
A large study has showed that for most patients having both breasts removed after cancer in one made no difference.
Women who had a lumpectomy or a mastectomy and kept their other breast did just as well as women who had a double mastectomy.
US data from more than 661,000 women with breast cancer on one side.
Most women did very well – the chance of cancer in the other breast was about 7% over 20 years.
For the 1 in 500 American women who have a gene variant, BRCA1 or BRCA2, it’s worth considering a double mastectomy.
Like previous studies, it suggest that there is absolutely no difference in survival if you have a lumpectomy, mastectomy or a double mastectomy.
The 7% chance of a second cancer was consistent no matter how advanced the initial cancer was when it was detected.
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July 27, 2024 10:43am
peterwn

France has copped bad luck with some outfit (Extinction Rebellion?) sabotaging the high speed rail network at the start of the Games. Hope there is not worse to come. Fortunately the sabotage was confined to damaging signals/comms cables which could be fairly readily repaired. If they attacked equipment rooms with their installed bespoke equipment the consequences would have been far, far worse. These rooms were probably well secured and had cameras so the vandals left them alone. Again is is ordinary people going about their daily lives who suffer but then protesters (and celebrities who cheer them on) could not care less about ordinary people. Great to see British judges are waking up to this and dishing out appropriate sentences especially for the ringleaders.
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July 27, 2024 11:05am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I look forward to Chloe condemning the attacks in France.
  
  Anyway French high-speed trains are powered by nuclear generated electrcity. Why are they being attacked?
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:13pm
  - peterwn
    
    Germany and other countries are also partially powered by French nuclear power stations.
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:39pm
- MCōs
  
  Most people don’t know who sabotaged the rail system so into the vacuum step those with a political agenda
  The Israeli foreign minister blames Iran and others Russia
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:14pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Did Security see the guy on the roof?
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:21pm
- NothingLeft
  
  High speed rail is incredibly vulnerable to sabotage and huge-death toll attacks. You have 300kmhr trains on precisely aligned rails at known times with no way of protecting them against debris or vehicles (tractors etc) being thrown/driven onto the tracks etc.
  
  I’m amazed no nutters have done it yet.
  
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  July 27, 2024 2:15pm
  - Colville
    
    A train of some thousands of tonnes going 300km/hr would swat most things aside without noticing it…
    
    Driver sitting in the front of the train might need to be scraped up however..
    
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    July 27, 2024 6:16pm
Sparrow

No wonder this country is being divided along racial lines. Just happened to see a TV1 news item about the Olympics. Stating NZ had so many athletes at the games. Fine. Then it went on and stated 17.4% were Māori. Why was there a need to state that. They are all proud Kiwis. Why not state then how many Asians, Pasifica, European Kiwis etc etc.
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July 27, 2024 11:12am
- Notsofast
  
  17.4% have some Maori ancestry.
  Debbie Ngarewa Packer for example on 12% Maori 88% European though not an Olympian as our parliamentarians seem to live it up some!
  If it was 17.4% Indian or Chinese for example, it would be 100% ancestry.
  
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  July 27, 2024 11:59am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Asians aren’t special. 😞
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:15pm
  - CJames
    
    BY
    Aren’t they white adjacent though? They succeed when all intersectional theory says they should be oppressed by their victimhood. Because they don’t conform to the rules, they are part of the problem. That is how intersectionality works, isn’t it?
    
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    July 27, 2024 12:36pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Maybe, I don’t think about it much. I get the impression that Chinese and Koreans (for example) just get on with their lives without dwelling about the impact of “colonisation”. With the exception of Thailand all southern and south east asian countries were colonised.
      
      I simply cannot relate to current generations of Maori who blame every ill they encounter on “colonisation”. It is simply beyond my comprehension, yet I appear to be in a minority because it is such a prevailing narrative.
      
      EDIT – If you take Korea as an example, the negative impact of Japanese occupation was on a scale that far exceeded what was experienced by maori in New Zealand. There was no treaty – just lots of dead Koreans. 🙁
      
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      July 27, 2024 1:43pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Addendum – something I mentioned to someone a while back You only get one life. Imagine the waste of that life telling everyone that you are a ‘victim of colonisation’ and organising your life around that grievance. That is exactly what we are seeing now in New Zealand. Indeed not only is it being encouraged, it is being financed by the Government.
        
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        July 27, 2024 1:54pm
      - Mike
        
        Similarly, the indigenous people of Taiwan are now so few that they can simply be ignored by their Chinese colonizers. See also the Ainu of northern Japan and Russia.
        Do you think Māori should be grateful that they weren’t exterminated?
        
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        July 27, 2024 2:10pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “Do you think Māori should be grateful that they weren’t exterminated?”
        
        Well no, but they could be “glass half full” about things. What are the couter-factuals to today? Maybe…
        
        1. Failed, haphazard colonisation – New Zealand would be much like PNG is today.
        
        2. Colonisation by the French – All Maori would be French, and all residents here would be French today.
        
        3. Colonisation by the Spanish. All Maori dead.
        
        I would argue that they got the best conceivable deal compared to the alternatives.
        
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        July 27, 2024 2:31pm
      - Mike
        
        Their could be many more counterfactual scenarios than your three flawed ones.
        That Maori society was more resilient than many others overwhelmed by colonization should indeed be a source of optimism. There were many European predictions that Maori were a dying race.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:06pm
      - mogg
        
        You are talking about Māori and non Maori political agitators in parliament and MSM. These people do not represent the majority of hard working Māoris who just want to get on with their lives, like the fella who came to fix our broadband last week. after Asian and Pakeha technicians failed to do so.
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:12pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Similarly, the indigenous people of Taiwan are now so few that they can simply be ignored by their Chinese colonizers.
        
        The Dutch set the scene in massacring and colonising indigenous Taiwanese well before the Chinese arrived in large numbers.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa
        
        and the Japanese Colonisers (1895-1945) weren’t too shy of organizing a massacre or two of the indigenes
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musha_Incident
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:07pm
      - Mike
        
        Yes, they couldn’t catch a break.
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:44pm
      - Pope Punctilious II
        
        The Spanish would have exterminated all Maori? A statement based on what evidence? The Spanish certainly didn’t exterminate the indigenous people of Mexico, or Peru, or Colombia, or Venezuela, or Bolivia, or Paraguay, or Chile, or the Philippines.
        
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        July 27, 2024 9:27pm
  - MCōs
    
    There’s an Asian not a couple of feet away is very special to me!
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:42pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Is it human or a Shih Tzu? 🙂
      
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      July 27, 2024 2:32pm
      - MCōs
        
        Funny you should say that, young Benedict
        We used to own a shih tzu, but left it behind with my stepson in Bangkok due to NZ’s stringent quarantine requirements.
        There were thus four of us in the house and it was a contest between myself and the stepson for #3
        As far as the dog was concerned my wife was #1, her sister #2, the vet was enemy #1, the groomer #2 and the rest of us part of the furniture
        
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        July 27, 2024 3:00pm
- AitchW
  
  According to the conventional wisdom none of the athletes should be Maori, because Maori are all oppressed. Surely the conventional wisdom can’t be wrong?
  
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  July 27, 2024 8:31pm
- greybeard
  
  If you took the two rugby teams out of the equation then there would hardly be any maori there.
  
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  July 28, 2024 8:13am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I just received an email from Peter Williams of the Taxpayer’s Union about Te Mana O Te Wai.
“A few days ago, the research team at the Taxpayers’ Union were sent the details on how the rules are playing it out in my local area: Otago.

While we knew it would be expensive, even I didn’t think it would be this bad.

The cost to comply for local ratepayers is tens of thousands per household.
Our friends at Federated Farmers were leaked confidential documents out of Otago Regional Council (and, given the mutual interest in this issue, have kindly shared them with the Taxpayers’ Union team). Here’s their summary:”

“According to the documents obtained by Federated Farmers, in at least two small towns in Central Otago, the cost of giving effect to Te Mana o te Wai will be more than $50,000 per residential ratepayer!”
Just wait until this rorting gets to Auckland!
https://ffnz.informz.net/informzdataservice/onlineversion/ind/bWFpbGluZ2luc3RhbmNlaWQ9MzA5MzE5MSZzdWJzY3JpYmVyaWQ9NTI4NDI2NTU4

There is all sorts of stuff going on here. I picked this out.
“We also understand that, under the council’s definition of Te Mana o Te Wai, water from one river can’t mix with water from another.”
WHAT??? Auckland gets water from the Waikato river as well as other catchments.
We are doomed if this repealed 3 waters rubbish is not thrown out the window.
Repealed has just meant a name change. The Coalition Govt are lying to us.
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- Chris Nisbet
  
  Yeah, but their ancestors were here before ours, so you’re a racist if you don’t want to give them control over the water that falls from the sky, or don’t want to pay them vast sums of money. And don’t forget, they have a deep connection with the water – much deeper than yours or mine.
  Also, the mystical 4th article of the Treaty (the one nobody knows about or signed, doesn’t actually exist, and you’re a racist if you call bullshit on it) probably says that what’s belongs to nobody belongs to them.
  This is democracy in action.
  
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  July 27, 2024 12:56pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yeah the 4th Article. Maori Lore!
    
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    July 27, 2024 1:45pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  “Repealed has just meant a name change. ”
  
  That is not correct. “3 Waters” was always quite a separate thing.
  
  I am out of touch on what the Government has planned. However IIRC they are replacing the National Policy Statement on Freshwater Management. That is the vehicle that drives the Te Mana o Te Wai requirement. Then there are Freshwater Farm Plans, which also incorporate Te Mana o Te Wai.
  
  Honestly as I commented here before the election, the only solution is a ’21st century’ approach to water quality management aka as ‘science’. All countries use pathogen limits to manage water quality. Pick a country that does it well and copy it.
  
  New Zealand doing this on a case by case basis all over the country, and based on a spiritual benchmark is, well, totally mad.
  
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  July 27, 2024 2:40pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    “Pick a country that does it well and copy it”
    
    Exactly.
    NZ should make that the first step in all of our problems.
    We should be adopting/ buying systems that are proven successful.
    We aren’t unique. We don’t need bespoke solutions, we need solutions.
    
    NZ is fixated on reinventing the wheel, but rarely seem to get the axle in the center.
    
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    July 27, 2024 5:30pm
Taieri

The latest Pearls of Wisdom from the ex Prime Minister Hipkins:

“(…)”Māori were disproportionately targeted. Cut off from their whānau, their whakapapa, their culture and identity, subjected to outright racism. Beaten, starved, raped, and abused.(…)”

“(…)And then quite literally minutes after the debate on the Royal Commission’s report had ended, the government once again targeted Māori as they reversed legislation that gives Māori a seat at the table on local councils(…)”
“Hipkins said that decision ignored council wishes”

I’m lost for words, especially with the last sentence to be honest…

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/enough-enough-govt-blasted-over-māori-policies
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July 27, 2024 12:52pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  ““Hipkins said that decision ignored council wishes””
  
  What an I missing? Can’t Councils still have Maori wards if a majority of folk in the council area support that idea through a referendum? Or is Chris Hipkins suggesting that the “wishes of Councils” should over ride the wishes of the people? The Government policy seems great. If people vote for special Maori wards, then knock yourself out. 🙂 It is not like they are being banned.
  
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  July 27, 2024 2:01pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    The referendum thing is interesting. Councils have always had ways to change their representational basis (wards – at large – STV -whatever) without a referendum. There is a procedure for it – I think it’s called a Representational Review or whatever. It has always been deemed to be something that the elected council can do.
    
    Arguably Maori wards are no different. If you don’t want them you should vote for councillors that don’t want them. But that would be too hard – who votes for councillors anyway? And then some people grumple loudly about councillors they helped to elect (or not) who do things they don’t like ….
    
    Government by referendum was apparently the go in ancient Athens but went out of favour in the following 2500 years …
    
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    July 27, 2024 5:23pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Two of the Nth Shore Councilor’s (Hill and Darby) made their support known AFTER the Election.
      Hill was probably expected.
      Lets see how they do next time round
      
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      July 27, 2024 5:26pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        The thing is of course – as far as I know – the Maori ward this was not an issue in council elections – candidates were not (again AFAIK) grilled on their attitude to this matter ….
        
        So we got what we voted (or didn’t vote) for. While we are at it I bet there are lots of folk who would be up for referenda on rates increases and whether the water supply really needs fixing and whether cycleways are a good idea … and … and.
        
        Apparently it worked in old Athens … 🙂
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:33pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Given such a change to the system of Representation they should have demurred on making a decision either way and promoted a referendum giving the voters a chance to decide
        But they didn’t
        I will be giving money to their competitors.
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:45pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        I doubt that any council had a reffo on changes between ward/at large/STV which are arguably at least as significant ….
        
        Personally I think the ward system sucks because it is basically FPP with electorates and at-large sucks because it is FPP with just one electorate …
        
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        July 27, 2024 5:51pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Specious comparison
        
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        July 27, 2024 6:23pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Cmon Red – you can do better than that.
        
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        July 27, 2024 6:46pm
- Damocles11
  
  The shamefully cowardly leftist NZ Herald closed the article for comments on Facebook, but not before a left wing troll had posted how much ‘we’ miss Labour. What a disgrace they have become.
  
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  July 27, 2024 5:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The phone call that changed her life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmw8P0a_0as
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July 27, 2024 1:13pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wow, a downticker with no sense of humour. They are everywhere!
  
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  July 27, 2024 1:46pm
thirteenstars

“Karens for Kamala?”

…more than 100,000 others on a Zoom call advertised as a way for white women to “show up for Kamala Harris.” What transpired echoed advocacy around Hillary Clinton eight years ago.

It was seismic. Cosmic, even. And since then—have you seen it? Have you seen Kamala glisten in the brilliance and shine of her true power and leadership? And what does that feel like? Feels like self-love.

https://reason.com/2024/07/26/karens-for-kamala-inside-the-white-women-zoom-call-for-harris/
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July 27, 2024 1:14pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Our very own ‘Karen’ seems to be quite the Kamala advocate
  Hall Monitors of the World Unite!
  
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  July 27, 2024 4:59pm
Tauhei Notts

Shane Reti said Health NZ first reported a deteriorating financial position to him in March 2024, despite earlier REPEATED assurances by the organisation that it was on target to make savings in 2023-24.
Now, compare that that to Mainfreight. Their chairman, at the company’s a.g.m. two days ago, gave an update on nett profit after tax for the period ended 13th July 2024.
Efficient outfits know from month to month, or in the case of Mainfreight, from week to week about their finances. The sickest part about Health N.Z. is their accounting department.
Timely accurate financial information is the cornerstone of any outfit and it is best left to boring bean counters. They can bore the shit out of you, but their job is important.
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July 27, 2024 2:32pm
- Ian Boag
  
  I suspect that HNZ is an order of magnitude larger and more dispersed than Mainfreight. It is the product of a merger of 20 DHBs each of which had their own accounting setups …. etc etc
  
  Apples and oranges
  
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  July 27, 2024 5:37pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    No, Ian. As far as I know, the DHBs, like other core public sector agencies, completed a CFIS Crown Financial Information Statement report each month. It’s only an Excel workbook but includes a P&L & Balance Sheet. It’s what Treasury use for the monthly Govt A/cs.
    
    Assuming the former DHBs still do these, but send the workbook to HNZ head office then HNZ’s financial position would have been obvious each and every month.
    
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    July 27, 2024 8:02pm
  - AitchW
    
    I’m not so sure. Mainfreight has 330 branches in 27 countries and over 10800 employees.
    How does that compare to HNZ?
    
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    July 27, 2024 11:18pm
Paulus

I see to day that the Education Department have won the (first) War that they are fighting to continue to do what they want and not the Government, in that they have cancelled some 460 odd school building updates, making the Principles and Teachers at these schools furious, and thereby annoying the Children and now their Parents. Good left wing politics
Some 200 have been re promulgated in some form.
And yet a new Primary School in Millers Road Otumoetai was quietly built last year which once finished became a Kura. Old school up the road being used for ????
Guesstimate cost over $50 million with totally new Maori type innovations for 700 children.
But only some 300 attending as no growth area but mainly immigrant and refugee children, who whilst cannot speak English will understand Maori folklore and how listen to Karakia and do a Haka.
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July 27, 2024 3:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Immigrants and refugees filled with propaganda.
  English is not important in NZ.
  
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  July 27, 2024 4:50pm
Muttonbird

Really good piece by Paul Buchanan on Luxon’s bootcamps:

The purpose of (bootcamps) is to turn former civilians, with all of their notions of individuality, community and the fluid relationship between them, into soldiers, that is, a cohesive group of anonymous members of a larger hierarchical entity (the armed forces) dedicated via specialised training and political purpose to destroying designated enemies of the State.

https://www.kiwipolitico.com/2024/07/about-boot-camps/

Will they work? Luxon himself doesn’t care if they work or not as he explained to HADP a few weeks ago.
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July 27, 2024 5:07pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  A “really good piece”? It is gibberish.
  
  How about author describes the precise details of the programme and critiques that? These young folk are not being turned into soldiers. So there is that. ☹️
  
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  July 27, 2024 5:36pm
- Ian Boag
  
  Borstals worked so well that were canned a mere 40 years ago …
  
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  July 27, 2024 5:38pm
- Swifty
  
  Muttonbird continues to support the parties who presided over the greatest explosion in criminality in New Zealand, especially during the years 2020-23, I have witnessed since my birth in the 1960s.
  
  That he decries the efforts of others to get on top of this problem before they have even implemented their policies, tells us all we need to know about him.
  
  Mutton doesn’t care about crime levels, nor does he care about the victims of crime, he only cares about his lot ruling the roost.
  
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  July 27, 2024 5:48pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350352622/former-homeless-man-finds-himself-palace-amid-social-housing-motel-closure

Let us have a look at this.

“In 2019, Ruhe found himself on the streets after a family relationship breakdown.”
Has there been any investigation as to the truthfulness of this statement ?

“In 2023, after four years of homelessness, Ruhe moved into the Balmoral Motel, which became a social housing facility during the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic.”
So between 2019 and 2023 he never attempted to find a proper home, and none of his government-paid helpers found him a home ?

What a lot of maori drivel.

[Mod – copy a paragraph or two, not most of the article]
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  That’s a bit unfair, I only copied 2 lines as you can see from the quote marks.
  
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