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Mike

Quite a few holidays today. It’s the International Day against Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking, the
International Day in Support of Victims of Torture, and World Refrigeration Day.
So if you want to torture someone by locking their beer fridge, today is the day for it.
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June 26, 2024 8:02am
- Matt Long
  
  Hope the anti torture people are keeping a weather eye on Islamists, here a local Taliban commander rapes a teenage boy with a stick so violently that the boys has been in critical condition in hospital for ten days.
  The crime? Talking to a girl on a phone.
  https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1805482791489995015
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:08pm
Gravelroad

Congratulations to the Afghanistan cricket team for reaching the semi-finals of the T20 cricket World Cup.
Super.
Shame about the women’s team though.
Will look forward to seeing people here marching in the streets in protest – wearing appropriate clothing and carrying signs supporting the rights of women in Afghanistan .
Ms Swarbrick? Green Party? Te Party Maori?

“As phenomenal as the men’s success is, it puts in stark contrast the fate of the women’s national team, which was dropped as soon as the Taliban seized power in 2021 after the United States and NATO forces withdrew after two decades of war.
The Taliban have used their interpretation of Islamic law to ban girls from education after age 11, ban women from public spaces, and exclude them from many jobs.
The International Cricket Council has helped to develop the Afghan men but not penalised them for not offering any women’s cricket.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350323262/afghan-cricket-fans-celebrate-reaching-their-first-twenty20-world-cup-semifinal
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June 26, 2024 8:08am
- Blog-aholic
  
  I don’t even think they actually live in their country either. I think they all live in Pakistan.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:13am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not sure about that, two of Afghanistan’s bowlers are world class and one is the number 1 T20 bowler in the world, it’s very hard to tell these days, because they are playing none stop on T 20 comps around the world, pretty sure their two top bowlers would be in Pakistan team if what you say is true
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:10am
- CJames
  
  Isn’t the woman’s team now an expat team based out of Australia. If they ever tour here, I would make an exception to my stance on ridiculing virtue signaling to go watch them play. Though I do wonder how the pro-Hamas infants would treat them.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:19am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Infants. Perfect description!
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:38am
  - kowtow
    
    The women’s team?
    
    Given the full face and body coverings I suspect it’s actually the men’s B team in drag .
    
    Think it can’t happen. Spain entered a team of El Normales in a mens intellectual disabled basketball competition .
    
    ‘During the 2000s Paralympics, Spain competed in the intellectually disabled basketball category. They torched all their opponents, subsequently secured gold, and celebrated like there was no tomorrow. One of those players was Carlos Ribagorda, who revealed the shocking truth shortly after: 10 out of the 12 team members did not actually have disabilities.’
    
    Source Basketball Network
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:43am
  - CJames
    
    According to recent news articles, the women’s team no longer plays but their players went to either Canada or Australia. Afghanistan is now only team of World Cup nations with just a male team, though their men’s team, like others have noted, don’t play on home grounds.
    Evidently when the mens team play, they use the pre-Taliban flag and national anthem so we know where their sympathies lie.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:04am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      So when our men’s team goes to Afghanistan in a few months, we’re are we playing?
      
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      June 26, 2024 10:14am
      - Mike
        
        NZ is going to India for three tests. No international teams go to Afghanistan.
        
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        June 26, 2024 10:41am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Mike, we are not going to India for 3 tests at all, we are playing Afganastan in one test
        
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        June 26, 2024 1:18pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Mike perhaps the Afghanistan game does not have international status, but when Williamson went test only last week, he said he would be unavailable for the test against Afghanistan
        
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        June 26, 2024 1:26pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Mike
        
        This game is d as opposed to be September
        Black Caps to play Afghanistan despite Australia’s human rights move
        
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        June 26, 2024 3:07pm
      - Mike
        
        It’s not on any schedule I can see
        
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        June 26, 2024 3:44pm
- pdm
  
  The things that intrigue me about Afghanistan cricket are these:
  
  1. Where do they find some flat green land to lay and prepare a cricket wicket?
  2. Okay a concrete wicket with matting might work.
  3. What about a flat, grassed outfield then?
  4. Are there any born and bred in Afghanistan players in the team?
  5. Or are all the players expatriates from Afghanistan and therefore born and raised outside the country. I know most of the team are based in other countries these days.
  6. If 4 applies how come the Taliban allow cricket in the country?
  7. Are any members of the team Taliban?
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:22am
  - Rusty
    
    @pdm – bit like the Kiwi rugby league team with most of the players living and playing league in Australia.
    
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    June 26, 2024 8:27am
  - jkt
    
    I recall playing club level cricket in Walvis Bay Namibia.🇳🇦
    
    They placed a mat in the centre of the parade ground and placed picket fences in a real oval.
    
    Afghanistan shares a border with Pakistan as well as a similar colonial history. All one needs is a bat and a ball and some friends.
    
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    June 26, 2024 8:51am
  - Master Mariner
    
    1. Where do they find some flat green land to lay and prepare a cricket wicket?
    Plenty of “retired” Poppy fields ripped out by the Taliban would be perfect for a pitch.
    
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    June 26, 2024 8:58am
    - Matt Long
      
      I hadn’t realised the Taliban had turned their back controlling the world’s biggest opium and heroin cartel.
      Apparently they’re keeping prices high for their modernised synthetic opioid and crystal meth lines by clamping down on small farmers.
      https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/13/taliban-afghanistan-drugs-ban-economy-opium-poppy-meth-heroin-trade/
      
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      June 26, 2024 12:19pm
  - Mike
    
    They don’t play at home. There are, or were, a couple of cricket grounds, but probably not in current use. The game developed through the refugee camps in Pakistan.
    Your questions about flat green land are a bit silly.
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:02am
  - MCōs
    
    The Afghanistan cricket team doesn’t play home games in Afghanistan. I don’t think think they ever have. Who’d want to go there, including some members of their own team?
    They play under the pre Taliban flag and use the pre Taliban anthem.
    There are/were domestic competitions in Afghanistan, but most of the players play elsewhere particularly in Pakistan as do some Blackcaps.
    I think the Afghanistan team has more locally born players than our team!
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:29am
    - pdm
      
      `I think the Afghanistan team has more locally born players than our team!’
      
      An interesting point Mcos.
      
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      June 26, 2024 9:38am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Wrong, we play a test match there next, Aussie refused to play in Afghanistan because of geopolitical waffle, they are home games.
      
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      June 26, 2024 10:13am
      - Mike
        
        Not on the schedule as far as I can see.
        
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        June 26, 2024 10:42am
      - MCōs
        
        I don’t think so
        The Blackcaps play India in India in October/November followed by England back here.
        
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        June 26, 2024 10:46am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They must have them, we are next playing a test match in Afghanistan
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:11am
- Master Mariner
  
  “The Taliban have used their interpretation of Islamic law to ban girls from education after age 11, ban women from public spaces, and exclude them from many jobs.”
  And our “Supreme Leader” gave the Taliban Millions of dollars for Female education .
  Must be a mistake//.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:56am
  - Taieri
    
    And our “Supreme Leader” gave the Taliban Millions of dollars for Female education .
    ———-
    
    “They are us” after all…
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:16am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Shall we ask for a refund?
    
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    June 26, 2024 1:05pm
  - MCōs
    
    This time last year NZ gave $11mil aid to the UN for food and health in Afghanistan
    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/support-vulnerable-communities-afghanistan
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:16pm
    - MCōs
      
      I think you’ll find NZ has never given the Taliban anything
      Aid money has gone to the Red Cross, UN, UNHCR, and other agencies
      More than 1500 Afghan refugees have also arrived in NZ
      
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      June 26, 2024 2:35pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Boycotts have never been consistent. Would you rather be black in South Africa in the 1980s or a woman in Afghanistan today? Bad things done in other countries don’t seem to count unless they are done by white people to non-white people.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:59am
- sirknz
  
  Just ask your average lefty if Islam is right about women.
  
  Watch them screech at you for being racist and Islamophobic and misogynistic.
  
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  June 26, 2024 3:38pm
imalwaysright

Tamihere suggesting electoral fraud

https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/06/25/more-murk-on-te-pati-maori/

At what point do the cops consider arresting him?
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June 26, 2024 8:13am
- Grunter
  
  That JT ‘fella’ is a bit slippery eh?
  
  If he gets away with this then we may as well give up on democracy in NZ now.
  
  “[J]ust got to motivate your whanau, get on the phone, go around their houses, pick up their voting forms, tick the boxes for them. It’s probably illegal, but I’m asking you to do it anyway,” Tamihere said, laughing.
  
  “No, look because the whole system is rorted against us, so you’ve got to level it up somehow.”
  
  Tamihere said the the voting process is “weighted towards older, non-Maori white fullas”.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:47am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Given the Te Pati Māori candidates are contesting the Māori roll, JT isn’t even levelling the system up against non-Māori. He’s just cheating labour out of candidate votes.
    
    The guy like others in his party just can’t help making outlandish racist comments, because that’s what appeals to his fan base. If Seymour or Peter’s make comments politely about Māori activism it’s dog whistling. When TPM do it they are just fighting off the colonial shackles. I can’t stand the cultural Marxist’s!
    
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    June 26, 2024 6:29pm
- NothingLeft
  
  It’s a crime to incite breaking of law.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:57am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Why isn’t Coster acting on this. He doesn’t need to wait for a complaint.
    This is precisely why the police have independence from Parliament but it seems perversion of our democratic election process doesn’t register on Costers radar.
    I wonder if John knows why…
    
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    June 26, 2024 11:57am
    - kowtow
      
      Te Legacy Media Paahti are all over this , front page headlines , constantly leading the tv and radio “news” broadcasts …………..not.
      
      On the face of it this is election interference ,anti democratic and unconstitutional , where’s the outrage .
      
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      June 26, 2024 12:40pm
Scott

The UN relief and works organisation, UNRWA, is being hit with a law suit by 100 victims of the October 7th massacre.
In the suit victims allege –
“UNRWA strengthened Hamas and transferred funds and financed the murders, acting as a full partner in the growth of Hamas terrorists. UNRWA and its directors are fully complicit in the murder of my children and family. ”

https://www.jns.org/oct-7-survivors-sue-unrwa/

UNRWA demanded US aid to Gaza being in US dollars instead of the local currency of shekels. Locals that wanted to spend the cash then had to go through Hamas money changers who took a fee of between 10 and 20%.
“This payment scheme reduced the real value of aid to Gaza residents by $2 million to 4 million per month and increased Hamas’s monthly revenue by that amount.”

The suit further alleges –
“at least 10% of UNRWA employees were members of Hamas and more than 100 participated in the Oct. 7 terrorist attacks.
“UNRWA facilities and schools were used to store weapons and as entry points and supply for Hamas tunnels and bunkers. Hamas’s command and control center for the Oct. 7 attack was located directly beneath UNRWA’s headquarters in Gaza City, and used power and servers from that facility to coordinate terrorist movements during the attack,” reads the statement.”

” While 16 countries suspended funding to UNRWA after the allegations surfaced of employee participation in the Oct. 7 massacre, all but the United States, United Kingdom and New Zealand have since restored donations.”

Let’s hope we don’t restore donations to UNRWA. Why we donate to the UN also has to be wondered, given that level of corruption in one of their most high profile agencies?
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June 26, 2024 8:13am
- jkt
  
  And …… UNRWA was warned about this risk by their auditors and do not do this in other jurisdictions where they lend a hand!
  
  In the other jurisdictions they pay in local currency so that the salaries are circulated through the community without “stimulating” the money changer industry!
  
  How can UNRWA be so uncaring about money lenders in countries outside GAZA!! Despicable!
  
  Winston and government needs to explain their actions to us and how we deal with this problem.
  
  We should freeze all payments to any “charity” without a clean audit and insist that auditors report on rules that include our values. (Treaty principles ….. ouch)
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:56am
- RoboRob
  
  Bad news for you then. After the UN investigation cleared UNWRA the NZ government has resumed its funding too.
  
  https://asiapacificreport.nz/2024/06/07/nz-to-make-unrwa-payment-after-gaza-controversy-says-peters/
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:03am
  - jkt
    
    Things may well change now that new “evidence” is be presented.
    
    On the face of it, the new evidence appears strong. The argument presented is rather convincing.
    
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    June 26, 2024 1:00pm
- Scott
  
  Just a further note that one can see UNRWA respond to these and other allegations on their website.
  https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-february-2024
  
  “Since 2022, 66 investigations, out of 30,000 staff across UNRWA and not just in Gaza, looked at a range of alleged related to neutrality breaches, including alleged support for Hamas and other groups. Some of these investigations are still ongoing.
  
  Sixty-six cases out of 30,000 staff – not all of which have been substantiated – is just 0.22%. There is absolutely no ground for a blanket description of “the institution as a whole” being “totally infiltrated.” Rather, the small percentage underscores that the absolutely overwhelming majority of UNRWA’s highly dedicated staff adhere to the principles to which they commit when they join the Agency. ”
  
  In other words, we are marking our own homework, found a few mistakes here and there but still given ourselves an A!
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:28pm
  - jkt
    
    Yes.
    Like the consensus argument!
    
    It is indeed a childish argument ….. but is used by so many to deflect when facing up to the truth, in tandem with the “but they did it too defence.”
    
    But, somehow, even seemingly intelligent people are often convinced, or choose to be distracted in order to protect their truth!
    
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    June 26, 2024 1:08pm
Bridgenag

SENT TO ME

JILLIAN MARY TREMAIN

1944 – 2024

Just two weeks ago it was suddenly discovered that Jill
had Stage 4 cancer of the bowel and liver. We were advised that death was days rather than weeks away.

She accepted this totally unexpected and devastating news with the same calm courage she showed during the years we travelled in exotic climes, finding ourselves at times in dangerous and threatening situations. I have, since then, maintained that she is, without doubt, the bravest person I have known.

A loving homemaker and justly proud mother, she was also a dedicated and talented quilter, creating and donating 513 of her quilts to the NZ Cancer Society. Two
months ago she put away her needles, deciding she had nothing more to prove. How ironic that Our Heavenly Father, the witty Practical Jokester Supreme, should then deal her a cancer death sentence of her very own!

It was Jill’s wish that her death pass unnoticed. Therefore there is to be no funeral or memorial services, no public notifications, no grave, nor gravestone.

As this news spreads people will offer me their condolences. My response will be …
“ Why me? I am the luckiest man on the planet – I have shared my life with her for 62 years … years of love, laughter, travel adventure and fulfilment. Your sympathies would be more aptly directed to those with the misfortune
never to have known her. “

Garrick Tremain
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June 26, 2024 8:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Lovely Eulogy.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:40am
- Matt Long
  
  Sad news from the BFD, which will become the Good Oil; Juana Atkins is very sick with cancer.
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:25pm
jkt

Lawsuit against UNRWA claiming they paid $20million a month in cash dollars to workers who then had to change the dollars into local currency using Hamas money lenders. Handing American currency directly into the hands of Hamas terrorists.

This then enabled Hamas to procure weapons from smugglers.

Fox tries to spin the story to criticise the American administration! What is new?

The practice by UNRWA was reported to UNRWA as a risk by their auditors. Yet, UNRWA kept doing this with a fifth of their budget. Yet, UNRWA was smart enough not to do the same in other countries where they are active! In the other locations they paid local staff in local currency!!💵

I think we should urge our government to insist that donations to UNRWA be frozen until they can prove that salaries going into GAZA is also paid in local currency!

The HAMAS money changers charge a 15% transaction fee. If this proves to be true this is a smoking gun and that Hamas terrorists care less about the well-being of the civilians in GAZA.
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June 26, 2024 8:20am
cas

Interesting comment on Jacinda in Danyl McLauchlan’s commentary on politics in the latest Listener.

“It still isn’t clear whether former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern actually cared about climate change or merely regarded it as an issue with great marketing synergy for her personal brand.”

Ouch.
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June 26, 2024 8:25am
- Simon
  
  Man made climate scam takes many forms.
  
  Its a lame smug comment years after she has gone. Coward left would never call it at the height of the Jacinda cult.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:06am
  - Quail
    
    Are you sure Ardern has really gone? The MSM and bureaucrats are already producing propaganda films so she certainly is lurking in voters memory.
    Perhaps the Labour playbook is to follow Argentina’s,Eva Peron’s successful lead and reinstate Ardern in the next elections ?
    If so I will be crying for New Zealand!
    
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    June 26, 2024 11:30am
cmm

Am I the only one thinking the way Greens address the GG issue is typical Green hypocracy.

GG takes full responsibility, but it isn’t her fault. PTSD due to bombs etc.

“Full responsibility” means what it says on the packet: responsibility.

What GG has claimed is full victimhood.
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June 26, 2024 8:28am
- kowtow
  
  GG turns up to her sentencing wearing a lapel pin of a slice of water melon .
  
  This, I’m informed is a sign of solidarity with Gaza .
  
  The Gaza terror outrage was perpetrated on civilians at the behest of the Ayatollahs in Tehran hoping to end a peace initiative in the broader Middle East .
  
  At sentencing she plays the suffering refugee from war in Iran card to mitigate her punishment but while sentenced is literally showing support for the very people she fled and the violent means they used to achieve their aims .
  
  The Greens really are delusional.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:53am
  - kevn
    
    kow… GG is/was just taking the pi*s and smirking.
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:56am
  - jkt
    
    Green on the outside and red on the inside.
    Satire? I do not think satire is in her DNA.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:00am
  - Simon
    
    GG, what a social justice warrior star, broke new legal ground when she socialised with known war criminals. Not even Robert Servatius managed that.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:10am
  - G152
    
    criminals in cahoots
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Greens are quite a different animal from the ones I gave light donations to in the late 60s/early 70s. Even Greenpeace I donated to.
    2024 and the now communists get nothing from me.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:46am
    - Jethrod
      
      I was approached by a Greenpeace canvasser in 2010 in Remuera Rd. Told him I would rather slit my wrists! He was stunned.
      
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      June 26, 2024 3:36pm
- jkt
  
  It is interesting to compare the way the Dana thing plays out compared to GG.
  
  The one may well be a true Marxist and the other a true opportunist.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:54am
- Unity
  
  I can’t for the life of me see how committing the crimes is not her fault. No matter how you lo0k at it, and no matter what her mental state might have been, she would have known it wasn’t right to steal something that wasn’t hers, yet she did it. She surely knew right from wrong at least. How many other thefts has she been guilty of that no-one has previously caught her committing?
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:10am
  - jkt
    
    True that.
    
    Ideologists can’t be swayed through reason.
    How do we teach our children to rationalise, so that they can see what it is that they support.
    
    Here is a woman that pins how she feels on her chest. Green outside, RED inside. She wears that pin as a badge of honour!
    
    The sheeple needs to be shocked into reality.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:06am
  - peterwn
    
    In the old days, Stipendiary Magistrates often had a wisecrack at the accused’s expense. That was probably worse than the fine as the local media reported Magistrates Court proceedings then. Nowadays it would not be politically correct especially as they are now called Judges.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:11am
    - jkt
      
      “Political correctness” …. now there is a call from a more sane period.
      
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      June 26, 2024 1:11pm
Colville

Its a bit moist here in Haumoana but its a bit hard to take a “state of emergency” seriously with 10 council blokes in flash utes and high viz sipping lattes.
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June 26, 2024 8:30am
- pdm
  
  Colville I hear on NewstalkZB news that Haumoana has shifted significantly in he last few hours – it is now south of Hastings
  
  By my calculations is slightly North and definitely East of Hastings – NEE maybe..
  
  BTW I live in Hastings by Cornwall Park. Are you on the beachfront at Haumoana? We used to holiday in Pedersen Road when I was a kid.
  
  Flick me an email at cruliviig@gmail.com if you would like to meet for a coffee sometime, Gravedoger is going to be in town in the next few weeks and he and I are meeting up so happy to include you.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:49am
- Simon
  
  Police to issue a notice for public and property owners not to take retributory action against criminal scum. While at the same denying that there are bands of gang scum looting. Like last time.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:19am
  - Arthur Fleck
    
    The Police need to hold up their end of the social contract.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:34am
    - peterwn
      
      ‘Social contract’ does not come into it. If you use excessive ‘self defence’ the ‘self defence’ argument fails and you will be convicted.
      
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      June 26, 2024 2:25pm
  - Keith White
    
    I certainly believe they’ll do that – could you please provide a link, Simon.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:46am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So no stopping the scum- just stick your head out so they can smash your skull with a hammer?
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:51am
  - peterwn
    
    Fair enough. There is a legal limit to use of self defence. For example shooting a fleeing offender in the backside is not on. However police should not pursue a prosecution where there is a high chance of acquittal because of self defence just to make a point. Police tried to sue a gun shop employee for unlawful possession of a pistol inside the shop. How silly! JP’s chucked it out at initial hearing and Police would have looked even more stupid if they (or Crown Law) appealed.
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:23pm
Maggie Pie

See where ‘TheWarehouse’ is forcasting a 64% slump in earnings.

People are asking…. “What went wrong?”

https://rnz.co.nz/news/business/520304/what-went-wrong-for-the-warehouse

Well I remember going into one once a few years ago.
I could have told them way back then. They had obviously adopted a DEI hiring policy long before anyone else had even heard of it.
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June 26, 2024 8:31am
- imalwaysright
  
  Their shops are very claustrophobic with their dim lighting.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:38am
  - pdm
    
    True ima.
    
    We were in the Taupo one early last week and it felt like a black out. Hastings is not so bad as it is usually well lit.
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:51am
- Scott
  
  To be fair Maggie much of their problem has to do with increased competition, especially from K Mart.
  Anecdotally some of my female family members love to buy their clothes at K Mart but would never think of the Warehouse as a clothes shopping destination.
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:52am
  - RoboRob
    
    K Mart has really picked up their act in the last few years. There own brand has a number of products that are decent quality and a fraction of the price of other brands. My wife LOVES shopping at K Mart. We almost never go to the warehouse.
    
    Previously I would get gardening stuff from the Warehouse (No name roundup, feriliser and even plants). Now I just go to Mitre 10. They are NZ owned, have the same pricing and MUCH better service.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:09am
  - cmm
    
    “much of their problem has to do with increased competition, especially from K Mart.”
    
    There will always be competition. If competition comes along, and you’re any good, you take it on and compete back.
    
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    June 26, 2024 11:17am
- Jethrod
  
  The Warehouse has always seesawed a lot with their profits. Then they change the CEO and things turn a corner.
  As my son used to sing when 9 years old “Where everyone gets a bargain, and a money back guarantee, and a piece of sh..t” Now he’s 44!
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:55am
  - Don Beckett
    
    My kids used to sing, ” The Warehouse, the Warehouse, where everyone is a bogan” 🙂
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:59am
- greybeard
  
  “The latest annual report showed significant staff costs. As well as Grayston’s $2.793 million salary, four other people were earning more than $1m a year, 13 were earning more than $430,000, 47 were earning between $160,000 and $430,000 and 739 earning between $100,000 and $260,000.”
  Obviously none of these expensive staff members are worth the money; same old story, overpaid but incompetent. Who is doing the hiring?
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:56am
  - Paulus
    
    They are no different in their salaries to any other organisations, but do not compare with the top salaries of our beloved top Public Servants.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:13pm
- surfing
  
  The warehouse is the most depressing place to shop. Wallking into one instantly drops my mood levels.
  
  I predict the warehouse will fail at some point. Australians were onto it before us.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:01am
  - Sacha
    
    You are right about it being depressing. I used to buy shirts, sweaters and jeans – they were cheap and good for every day work – and there was an Australian brand of women’s clothing that was well made and interesting.
    Now it seems that all the clothing is sourced from a dreary outfit in Auckland and size ranges are very limited.
    
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    June 26, 2024 11:19am
- Simon
  
  Good, share news on kb.
  
  Was recommended Fletcher building a few yeas ago. Forward order book. Knew the workforce and said no thanks. Same with other stock that relies upon building stuff. There was a retirement stock, Oceania but never bought as the work force for its construction projects was rubbish.
  
  Someone here said Ports of Tauranga were a no buy because of the insane local council. Very good call.
  
  Stock picking on a mainly political blog works well.
  
  I would avoid any share that has acquired “Iwi / Maori tribe” directors over the last few years. Those directors aint working for the company. JV in the wind with all the risk assumed by the listed company.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:10am
  - pdm
    
    Simon – we use a KiwiSaver fund heavily weighted to International Shares.
    
    Works well for us with funds in our account for `one off’ expenses in 3 days..
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:55am
  - Grunter
    
    Try this ETF – URNM – Uranium Miners. Looks like the world is well short of the yellow stuff that makes nuclear power stations work. Or if you’re any good at stock picking, dive into individual uranium miners themselves.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:25am
  - RoboRob
    
    Yes this is a good forum for the occasional stock pick. Somebody posted about Uranium mining shares and after investigation I have bought into the URNM ETF. Seems to have decent long term growth potential as there is a spike in demand at present and in the next few years.
    
    A basic S&P 500 ETF is a good option for many. Low fees (lower then any KS or investment agency and often outperforms them), your money is in the US and since most NZers have the bulk of their money in NZ this gives a degree of diversification and protection from the NZ economy.
    
    Being into IT I also have money in Microsoft and Qualcomm among others. The XLK ETF (tech ETF) has also been a great performer for me. One piece of advice I was given, which I think is good, is that you should primarily focus on investing in businesses you understand. Tech stocks have generally done very well and will get a boost again when the US cuts interest rates. I got back into share trading in the US during the pandemic and my Microsoft shares are up ~140% in that time. When I bought them I just wanted a solid company that would benefit from going online and that had suffered an unreasonable share price drop!
    
    The only concern I have is (IMHO) the overvaluation of Nvidia. Yes AI is the play at the moment BUT there is just no way the Nvidia is worth more then Microsoft or Apple when comparing sales / revenue. I have plenty of NVidia exposure from ETFS and my NZ Kiwisaver etc, so have enjoyed the rise but I am concerned there is a bubble here.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:27am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  wokeup.nz says they are extremely woke.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:54am
Grunter

“You can’t taper a Ponzi scheme.”

A Ponzi scheme is an unsustainable scam that relies on a continuous influx of new money to keep it going. The scheme collapses if the flow of new money slows down or tapers.

Many believe the Federal Reserve is running what amounts to a giant Ponzi scheme.

That’s because the US government’s obscene spending and skyrocketing debt have reached an inflection point where the whole system will collapse unless the Fed pumps an ever-increasing amount of new fake money into the system.

Efforts to reduce Govt expenditures will be meaningless unless it becomes politically acceptable to cut entitlements, national defense, climate change spend, and welfare. Biden won’t do that. Trump won’t do that either.

Further, interest expense is exploding higher (now US$1 Trillion pa).

In short, the Fed must print ever-increasing quantities of fake money, or the system will collapse.

Ludwig von Mises, the godfather of free-market Austrian economics, summed up the Fed’s dilemma:

“There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.”

The US government will not voluntarily “abandon credit expansion,” as Mises puts it because Washington is dependent on issuing increasing amounts of debt to pay for the ever-growing costs.

At some point, the music will stop, the Ponzi will collapse.
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June 26, 2024 8:45am
- kowtow
  
  Couldn’t agree more .
  
  Consider too why they abandoned the gold standard . It forced politicians to constrain spending and politicians love spending as it gets votes and praise ( in the wrong places) .
  
  How many pollies actually campaign on “austerity” and yet that’s what’s required . If a household must balance its books why not govts.
  
  It really is that simple.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:51am
- cmm
  
  The problem is that now they have found the infinite credit card of debt, high living has been normalised. The West, USA especially, lives well beyond its means.
  
  A slight belt tightening is regarded as pain and is to be avoided at all costs.
  
  Unfortunately this thinking just makes everything worse. Eventually when the balloon does pop, the bang is going to be huge.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:57am
  - Keith White
    
    I appreciate that greatly financially smarter people than me can’t put a date on this, so I’m whistling in the wind asking – but I wonder how long we’ve got?
    
    I’m currently working just to build up savings for family post-vax health costs, and the rest is going into retirement funds – understanding how precarious those retirement funds’ health’n’longevity is likely to be once the balloon goes up.
    
    If I was to have to decide upon a date, I would say in the very short term, we’ve got a very risky date coming up with the US elections which the powers that be may decide to use as a tipping point into cashless currencies. And beyond that, we’ve got maybe 2 to 3 years grace at best.
    
    But like I say, I know nothing about the financial industry except that while there may be some trustworthy proponents in the finance industry, no one can be sure exactly which few they are…
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:50am
    - cmm
      
      It is amazing how these things can keep limping along…. until they suddenly keel over.
      
      Something needs to “disturb the force”.
      
      USA has now got to the point where it costs over $1T a year to service borrowing. That means they’re borrowing more to pay the interest. That’s a runaway borrowing situation where you take out a second credit card to make minimum payments on the first credit card.
      
      A lot of the strength in the US dollar comes from it being used as the world currency, especially for oil. If the BRICS non-$ trading gains traction then this could severly weaken the USD. That could be the thing that brings it down.
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:34am
    - Grunter
      
      Keith – as you say, no one knows a date. But can it go on for another, say, 10 years? I can not see how it can, something breaks before then.
      
      Maybe the 2024 election sparks “something”? Global tensions…. maybe, but again, no one knows.
      
      I just can’t see any politician substantially changing the ponzi pathway that we are on. Just look at the NZ Coalition Govt, tweak, tweak, tweak…..
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:57am
      - Keith White
        
        I agree Grunter, can’t see 10 years as feasible as US debt has gone asymptotic. Plus all those illegals are consuming and not producing, meanwhile the US has donated $30billion to Zelenksy’s and the Bidens’ retirement funds… something’s gonna give and we and our products and our markets are barely a rounding error downunder.
        
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        June 26, 2024 3:30pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      … but I wonder how long we’ve got?
      
      Heh! Four years ago I picked the year 2034 just for kicks, The Great Crash of 2034, but as I admitted even then, nobody really gives a shit about this and won’t until it all fails.
      
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      June 26, 2024 12:48pm
      - Keith White
        
        Tom, I’d like to think we have that long!
        
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        June 26, 2024 3:31pm
- Damocles11
  
  While we talk of the US, lets consider that our own central bank was in lock-step with them since the GFC, bringing in ultra-low interest rates and at one stage even priming our retail banks for ‘negative interest rates’. (When interest rates go negative you are financially penalised for having money in the bank.) Our own central bank also joined the QE craze during the Covid pandemic.
  What is a boom brought on by credit expansion? We had it here across the entire period of ultra low interest rates: retail banks became willing to lend ever greater amounts for the purchasing of residential property. It became a full blown speculative mania. One chief economist of a prominent NZ bank went on breakfast TV and said “the consensus seems to be that you can ‘print money’ without causing inflation”. We all know how that turned out. Anyway, every credit fuelled boom is followed by a bust; the bigger the boom, the bigger the bust.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:43am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Do you have a link for this:
    
    ” One chief economist of a prominent NZ bank went on breakfast TV and said “the consensus seems to be that you can ‘print money’ without causing inflation”. ”
    
    Because I would love to know the economists name and the full context of the quote, whether they believed the consensus and if not what else they said.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:06pm
    - Keith White
      
      Adrian Orr: “RBNZ is a great business to be in, where you print money and people believe it.”
      
      Close enough…?
      
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      June 26, 2024 3:33pm
  - Quail
    
    Inflation is a tax.
    So despite lip service to controlling inflation many Governments do little about inflation.
    The housing boom is a great example of inflation. Every participant thinks they are getting rich but it is still just the same house costing a hell of a lot more! Huge increases in Council rates, more tax and much more costly services often ensure little individual benefit. Look at 10 year car prices for similar models—- supposedly a competitive market!
    Financial sectors either lag or are a precursor to inflation .
    The people who lose most are the savers , people on fixed incomes and particularly the elderly
    Redistribution of wealth is something all Governments practice so inflation is apparently part and parcel of their tool kit!
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:30pm
    - Damocles11
      
      The Council rates is the kicker. The more they value your property at, the more you have to pay. It’s legalised extortion. Reasonable rate rises seem to be a thing of the past, people count themselves fortunate if it is only 10%. They are talking about a 20% increase in Wellington.
      Who is really winning out of the property ponzi scheme? Councils and the ticket clippers: real estate agents & mortgage brokers. And the banks of course.
      
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      June 26, 2024 5:25pm
  - kevn
    
    perp…
    https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/is-ardern-now-bigger-than-jesus-her-message-is-love-your-neighbour-where-have-we-heard-that-befo?
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:42pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  So what’s the smart thing to do? Buy a smallholding & become a peasant farmer? Or, blow the lot, George Best style?
  
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  June 26, 2024 8:19pm
greybeard

The bad weather off Gisborne had been clearly flagged days ago: why then would anyone go out into the ocean in a small boat ?
Madness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350323289/three-bodies-found-mahia-beach-thought-be-missing-fishermen
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June 26, 2024 8:52am
- softail 1450
  
  greybeard, Around 20 years ago we were sheltering in a bay on the northern side of Waiheke from 40 knot winds when one of our friends who was holidaying with us got a message that he had to get home urgently,we set off towards home which is in the Waitemata upper reaches.
  As we came nearer the northern tip (oneroa) it was obvious we were in for a thrashing as we headed up to the motuihe channel as the wind was directly against the incoming tide ,our launch was absolutely built to withstand these conditions but the waves were impressive and close together so you can imagine our surprise when out in front of home bay Motutapu around 500 metres offshore we encountered 4 big islanders in an open dinghy approximately 14 foot long at anchor and fishing with no life jackets in sight they all happily waved enthusiastically as we went past,all these years later it’s still bought up when the subject comes around about fishing and boating safety,😂
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:28am
  - cmm
    
    “no life jackets in sight ”
    
    But no doubt the standard safety gear of a Swanni and white gumboots.
    
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    June 26, 2024 9:42am
    - softail 1450
      
      LMFAO ,Slaughterhouse safety gear borrowed for the Xmas season.
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:22am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    I have been on vessels coming up the Rangitoto Channel and had 14′ Parker Craft anchored there fishing !!!
    
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    June 26, 2024 11:14am
jkt

Sad.
Similar to the pylon event in Northland.

There are many similar vulnerabilities across NZ.
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June 26, 2024 8:57am
imalwaysright

Biden has gone to Camp David to practice his debating skills for the Trump debate.
I don’t think he will make it, they will probably stop his meds and let him drift off .
The eulogies will be interesting.
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June 26, 2024 9:02am
- kevn
  
  iam… Gone to do some work on Ai in case he can’t actually ‘be’ at the debate. You know, covid etc etc.
  Anything is possible in that arena.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:01am
- PurplePen
  
  Piece in the herald today saying Trump thinks he might deliberately let Biden win the debate this week. That way it ensures Biden is still in the running for the Democrats and Trump will therefore ensure a win for the GOP.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:11am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Trump could nail baby bunnies to the studio walls and it wouldn’t be enough for Sleepy to win.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:04pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘DRUG TEST FOR CROOKED JOE BIDEN??? I WOULD, ALSO, IMMEDIATELY AGREE TO ONE!!!” Trump wrote on his social media platform Monday afternoon’
  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ahead-debate-trump-escalates-calls-biden-drug-tests/story?id=111385583
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:06pm
  - Mike
    
    No one’s going to be drug tested, or checked for nappies, or given cognitive checks. Even if they were, no one would believe the results.
    
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    June 26, 2024 1:38pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      It Depends
      
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      June 26, 2024 7:08pm
peterwn

Chris Hipkins mouthing off about the Government again and my responses:
1. If the cancer drugs were so important, then why did not Labour fund them during its 6 years in office. Bit rich to now say how essential they are now.
2. Quite apart from ferry and terminal cost over-runs, the now cancelled ferries were not fit for purpose anyway because of the constrained nature of the Tory Channel and Queen Charlotte Sound. Chris Hipkins and the unions have their heads buried in the sand on this point. If the previous Government had done its homework properly this would have been recognised and a decision to purchase ferries fit for purpose. If two rail enabled ferries that fit existing terminals had been ordered, Nicola and co would not be making a fuss now. Looks like rail enabled ferries will not be ordered now. Kiwirail to note – a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
But then Labour and Greens take voters for fools.
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June 26, 2024 9:19am
- BeaB
  
  I think it’s time to build a new port at Clifford Bay bypassing Picton and enabling quicker, smoother trips. Even rail would be possible.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:03am
  - Matt Long
    
    The distances look good, building a safe all weather terminal looks difficult.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:56pm
  - Quail
    
    Yes B
    Other advantages are :
    Avoiding the uphill pull known as the Elavation into Picton. This would save the railways a lot of fuel
    Avoiding the accident prone traffic of SH 1 through Blenheim from Picton.
    Avoiding the 5 lane plus rail roundabout in Blenheim.
    Free up the shunting yards at Spring Creek.
    Removal of same .
    Just a few ideas that have been mooted in the past!
    So most good for rail and transport but not so good for Picton and Blenheim businesses!
    
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    June 26, 2024 5:52pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Brown produced a letter in the house yesterday that was written by Robertson to Kiwirail, furious about the ferries, and suggested his self the ferries were not fit for purpose, yet Hipkins keeps waffling on
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:22am
  - peterwn
    
    If Labour had got back in, Robbo wiuld have been pounding sand over the ferries. There was a big $$$ request from Kiwirail for the project which Robbo put in the pending tray before the election. If Robbo had actioned it one way or another before the election it would have become an election issue. If Labour was returned he/Cabinet would have had to sign off the $$$ with clenched teeth since Labour would have been too chicken to cancel the project. Instead Nicola went into her new office and found that time bomb sitting in her in tray. She had the guts to do something about it.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:25pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  yes, lets look at Labour’s actual track record when it comes to infrastructure?
  
  What was the regional fuel tax actually spent on? I don’t see rail to the airport, but Cindy promised it by 2023!
  
  Road cones and cycleways are not contributors to productivity.
  
  What did Labour actually achieve with the $100bn they borrowed?
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:31am
- PurplePen
  
  Surely there must be no urgency for replacement ferries. Any multimillion dollar company would have an asset and infrastructure plan for one of its most significant assets in place that ensured replacement was always better than just-in-time. With KiwiRail it does suggest they didn’t and the board and CEO have failed miserably.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:15am
- Geri Sjovik
  
  According to the bell-curve of intelligence and voter patterns, Hipkins is right to regard 50% of voters as fools.
  
  Otherwise how do you account for Labour, Greens, and the Maori Party being within a couple of seats of being the gubberment.
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:36pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    A very active and vocal loony-left minority, and a large portion of population not giving a stuff about politics.
    
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    June 26, 2024 3:07pm
Im Right

Ok…..taking bets.
GGs sentencing tomorrow:
1/5 – discharge without conviction
2/5 – fined, no conviction
1/1 – convicted, fined
100/1 – convicted, fined and ankle bracelet
1000/1 – anything harsher

Remember folks, no one has ever seen a poor bookie!
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June 26, 2024 9:30am
- SimonRAnderson
  
  There are only two possibilities: discharge without conviction or conviction and discharge.
  
  My money is on the former. Having followed proceedings closely the Establishment’s fix is in and those of us striving to expose that haven’t done enough to embarrass the judiciary into serving the cause of justice, in my opinion.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:13am
- alex Masterley
  
  Convicted and discharged.is my pick.
  The conviction to show societies disapproval and the discharge because she is really a nice person at heart and didnt really mean to……………
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:26pm
Grunter

By three votes to two, the UK Supreme Court (formerly the Judicial Committee of the House of Lords) ruled last week in a 100-page judgment that Surrey County Council, in granting planning consent to UK Oil and Gas plc for oil production at Horse Hill, Surrey, had neither requested nor considered in their assessment an estimate of the CO2 emissions from third parties combusting the 3.3 million barrels of oil that the Horse Hill field might produce over its lifetime.

The “judgment” made no attempt to calculate how much global warming the 10.74 million tonnes of CO2 emitted by the Horse Hill project over its lifetime would cause. So let us do what no one else in this case (least of all the judges) has done – the math.

“The West cannot long survive negligent stupidity on this scale.”

Read on via the link below…..
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/06/25/corporations-that-concede-the-science-are-doomed/
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June 26, 2024 9:34am
- Matt Long
  
  The Danes have taken the lead in Climate stupidity by allowing a centre left government to tax natural methane emissions.
  https://www.ft.com/content/c7a4eeaa-3a00-4132-bac3-82e1d0650c78
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:03pm
Maggie Pie

CHINESE TAKEAWAYS 😛

Maybe it’s just me, but not sure I’d want to fly AIR NZ these days.
See where they’ve appointed Kiri Hannifin as ‘Chief Sustainability Officer’.
I remember Kiri from her time at Countdown. She was the one who led the charge to ban single-use plastic bags. And what a disaster that was for customers 🙁
Anyway, now she wants to get rid of AvGas and fuel the Boeings on recycled-cooking-oil sourced from Chynahh…..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/chinese-takeaway-recycled-cooking-oil-from-china-to-power-air-new-zealand-flights/4SXKQELNPFGZRNRZKXQ3TGLFKY/
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June 26, 2024 9:44am
- cmm
  
  There isn’t that much cooking oil to recycle, but all the airlines of the world are fighting over the stuff to virtue signal – pushing up the price dramatically.
  
  Even if they manage to get all the waste oil into this chain they will be lucky if they can power 2% of the world’s planes.
  
  I wonder whether Leo Dicaprio uses this in his private jet when he flies around the world accepting environmental awards?
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:53am
  - RoboRob
    
    Oh and the stupid ‘green’ fuel is MUCH more expensive then real fuel. Air NZ hope that as the industry scales up the price will drop, but for now they are happy to pay more to help grow the industry. Thats actually what the AirNZ lady said in an interview about it.
    
    I would also add that..
    1) I bet we find out that the green fuel is actually worse for the environment overall in a few years.
    
    2) Im travelling Singapore Air next week and have a code share flight with AirNZ (to AU). I guarantee the quality of the planes, service and food will be exponentially better on Singapore Air. The pricing was also lower then Air NZ.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:43am
    - cmm
      
      “Air NZ hope that as the industry scales up the price will drop”
      
      It can’t really scale up because there is a very limited waste oil supply and that can already be burned as a diesel or heating oil substitute.
      
      What is far more likely to happen is that the demand for virtue signalling just pulls waste oil from other uses and therefore the net benefit is zero. For example, oil being burned in diesel engines will be diverted to jets because AirNZ is willing to pay more. The diesel engines will then have to switch back to diesel.
      
      Environmental gain: zero.
      
      At some point the prices will be so high that they are likely to start using virgin oils instead – pushing up the price of cooking oil and making life even harder for the poor in the world trying to access cheap cooking oil.
      
      But so long as the rich wankers in first class can have their guilt assuaged, who cares if the peasants have to pay an extra $ a litre for cooking oil?
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:13am
      - Matt Long
        
        If hydrogenated and polyunsaturated vegetable oils were no longer a waste product disposed of in ultra processed foods the improvement in international health might exceed the increased cost of air travel.
        
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        June 26, 2024 1:08pm
      - Taieri
        
        Putting it into perspective…Airbus 320 uses about 2700 litres of fuel per hour. So 500K litres translates to 185 hours of flying time. Air NZ operates 17 of A320 on domestic routes. Assuming an average aircraft usage of 10 hours per day, 500K litres of this “sustainable” fuel is enough for just a little bit over one day of their domestic jet fleet operations. Not much considering that the last time I checked there’s still 365 days in the year.
        Someone is bullshitting us methinks…
        
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        June 26, 2024 2:05pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Given I’m leaving thru AKL next week happy to see it’s been delivered to WGN. Was once a bit of a fan of early adoption for technological change but that evaporated a couple of years ago – too many shortcuts with pilot trials ( no pun intended) these days.
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:20am
    - PurplePen
      
      Food is always much of a muchness no matter who you fly. Singapore Airlines crew I find robitic. If it’s something out of the ordinary they have no idea how to respond.
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:20am
      - RoboRob
        
        Once while travelling my young (at the time) son was unwell. The attendant got her own personal medicine (forget what it was but it was good) and gave it to us. Excellent service.
        
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        June 26, 2024 4:30pm
    - kevn
      
      Robo… You can bet plane engines won’t fare well with the ‘green’ fuel. Gummed up moving parts.
      
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      June 26, 2024 12:47pm
- PurplePen
  
  As if Boeing aircraft weren’t dodgy enough. Now Air NZ wants to fill then up with dodgy fuel. And weren’t they fast-tracking pilots as well now.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:18am
cmm

It’s a pity our baby factories are not latching on to this one-and-done trend.

Having one child, much later in life, is sending us down the path of demographic hell.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/350322752/one-and-done-why-some-parents-are-opting-have-only-one-child
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June 26, 2024 9:49am
- MCōs
  
  Are you saying that pakeha have an aversion to living with their extended family?
  When our kids were born my mother in law lived with us and looked after them when we were at work or out for the evening and did some cooking.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:23am
  - cmm
    
    Not what I was saying at all, but now that you mention it I think western oldies have an aversion to living with the next generation.
    
    Things are different from when you were a child. Everyone expects far more flash living conditions these days.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:31am
    - MCōs
      
      I wasn’t talking about when I was a kid, but pakeha in general don’t generally seem to have the grandparents living with them
      
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      June 26, 2024 1:01pm
  - Grunter
    
    Why insert “pakeha”…..? Not sure where the race card was played?
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:32am
- PurplePen
  
  If you’re going to have children I always recommend having at least 3 in case one is a dud at least you have 2 that can look after each other and the dud.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:22am
wilderbeast

Bit of an update on the Nobby Clark situation in Invercargill. Yesterday the Otago Daily Times carried a story with a headline like this “Local government expert says Clark must go.” Story doesn’t provide any more details of the why’s or wherefores but presents a local government hack out of Sydney as the one making the grand proclaimation!! Couldn’t they find anyone closer to home?
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June 26, 2024 9:59am
- peterwn
  
  The ‘hack’ was formerly in NZ. If he was a real expert in the subject he would have taken a wider view of the matter. For example acknowledging that Nobby returned to his duties after surgery – he was granted three months leave of absence and thought he was well enough to come back after two. He was probably on post-operative medicines which made him feel better than he was.
  As for as calls to strengthen Councillor Codes of Conduct are concerned there is a serious danger they could be used to clobber political enemies. As far as I am concerned Nobby should flip people the bird and sit tight.
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:39pm
  - Taieri
    
    The ‘hack’ was formerly in NZ
    ————-
    
    He stood for the Palmerston North council once or twice, but didn’t get elected.
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:07pm
  - MCōs
    
    Bobby Clark has also taken a month off work to fully recover from his heart operation
    Watch his polling rates go up. NZers always vote for someone they feel sorry for.
    
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    June 26, 2024 5:26pm
BeaB

Isn’t amazing that Ardern’s paradise has turned to custard in just 7 months under this horrid coalition.
Chris Hipkins heroically demands an apology from Luxon after the biggest single injection of cash into Pharmac in history.
RNZ manages to turn everything the coalition does into a bad news story, constantly trotting out their so-called experts. More like useful idiots in my opinion.
The Herald continues the moronic cartoons from their laughably partisan cartoonists.
I welcome the new steely tone in Luxon’s voice. Perhaps by now he has realised he will never ingratiate himself with the media or the Left. Better by far to thank the people who voted for him by delivering what he and his coalition partners promised.
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June 26, 2024 9:59am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes I noticed he flicked the bird too them last night when asked how he felt about their poll, he said I don’t care what your poll says, I think it was a planned response because Peters put the bout in as well
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:31pm
Jethrod

At 0925 got a Civil Defence warning for Haumoana, which is nearby to where I live.
Was able to see it was for Haumoana, but on touching OK at the bottom, it disappeared along with all the instructions.
So next time before I hit OK to get rid of the godawful noise, I will take a screenshot of the message
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June 26, 2024 10:02am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Last I read the rice had dropped 30 centre metres at the bridge
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:32pm
Maggie Pie

Imagine the outcry if the roles were reversed?

Newly elected South African MP Andie Mngxitama
openly calls for the genocide of white people….

“We will kill the white mans children, we will kill
their women, we will kill anything we find in our way”

https://x.com/SkyeZedA/status/1805642740958392479
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June 26, 2024 10:08am
- cmm
  
  This clip is from a few years ago, but your point stands.
  
  Oh, PS, whites are racist.
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:18am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    It’s amazing that even in South Africa the natives appear to have moved on from facial tattoos.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:52am
    - cmm
      
      Facial tattooing, and tattooing in general, are not a big thing amongst African people, especially South African tribes. Part of this is probably down to skin tone – darker skins don’t show up inks well, especially low-tech inks.
      
      Traditionally there has been more emphasis on scarification. These practices are close to extinct in modern city dwelling Africans who would rather straighten their hair, put on make up etc.
      
      Scarification must save quite a bit of make up costs and also save you that extra 30 minutes glamming up for a night on the tiles…
      
      https://i0.wp.com/hadithi.africa/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/003520-SB1.jpg?w=316&ssl=1
      
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      June 26, 2024 11:05am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Let’s not give Debbie any more ideas 😀 😀 😀
        
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        June 26, 2024 11:11am
      - cmm
        
        MP: Well that would certainly be more traditional Maori attire. It would be a laugh if she turned out like that in parliament.
        
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        June 26, 2024 11:37am
- Taieri
  
  “We will kill the white mans children, we will kill
  their women, we will kill anything we find in our way”
  ————-
  
  And who “we” will kill when there’s no one left to kill?
  
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  June 26, 2024 10:21am
  - cmm
    
    The EFF are “pan Africanists”. They want One Africa with no colonial borders.
    
    They want the whole of Africa to come together and speak one language. They have proposed Swahili.
    
    The major reason for wanting these things is that most EFF supporters come from very minor tribes like the Venda.
    
    The Zulu people (largest tribe in South Africa) are extremely nationalistic and don’t want pan Nationalism.
    
    As a result, EFF don’t speak for many black people in South Africa.
    
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    June 26, 2024 10:50am
  - peterwn
    
    Amend a few words slightly and it sounds like the situation before ‘colonisation’.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:31pm
- Arthur Fleck
  
  So the social justice activists will tell you that blacks can’t be racist against whites because the oppressed can’t be racist against the oppressor (Marxism).
  
  But when the blacks hold political power, the reverse isn’t true. So in actuality, it’s just anti-white racism.
  
  These social justice revolutionaries aren’t interested in any kind of “justice”, they just want power and they just hate white people.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:05am
mandk

Why does the government need a review into the electricity pylon in Northland falling over?

The reason why is bleeding obvious and has been acknowledged: the maintenance crew undid all the of the bolts on three of the base plates.

The only remaining question is why the crew made the decision to do this. Were they so poorly trained that they did not realise what would happen? Did they know the risk but decided to go ahead anyway? Were they under instruction to cut corners and, if so, who issued the instruction?
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June 26, 2024 10:31am
- peterwn
  
  Not poor training. It was poor to non existent supervision. If there was a qualified line mechanic directly supervising the work (as there should have been) the incident would not have happened.
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:30pm
  - cmm
    
    This didn’t really need an expert. Just anyone who had passed primary school maths.
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:13pm
    - Jethrod
      
      Two things :-
      1 it happened on a Friday…guys had a thirst.
      2 matauranga maori applied, maori science, therefore anything went.
      
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      June 26, 2024 3:54pm
Ghost

It’s the only way to live, or it will destroy you

Lauren Dickason’s husband has forgiven her for murdering their three children in an emotional statement as she awaits her sentence.

“Lauren Dickason herself has lost everything I have lost. I made the decision very early on to forgive Lauren for what she has done,” Graham Dickason said in the statement, which was read on his behalf at the High Court in Christchurch on Wednesday.

Article
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June 26, 2024 11:10am
- imalwaysright
  
  I can think of better things to do than think about forgiveness for a child murderer. Investigate the husband, is his willingness to forgive motivated by virtue or by fear?
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:39am
  - Ghost
    
    Investigate the husband for what? He was across the road at the hospital when his children were killed. Not everyone holds on to the anger after their loved one is killed. Just last week I watched a video from the USA, a man being sentenced for murder. The father of the murdered daughter gets up at the sentencing and forgives the killer. Just because you forgive someone doesn’t then put any fault on you. What a stupid pathetic post and attack on a victim of a murder.
    
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    June 26, 2024 11:51am
    - imalwaysright
      
      He’s not a victim of a murder.
      He’s been married to her and had three children with her, its a fair bet that this didn’t occur out of the blue so we are supposed to believe he didn’t suspect she was capable of harming the kids?
      Forgiveness bullshit.
      She should get capital punishment and he should be explaining to the cops how he didn’t know something was up and why he hid her mental state from Immigration.
      He was their father. He is supposed to protect them. He’s not supposed to leave them alone with a nutcase.
      That’s Russian roulette with you own kids.
      Forgive whoever you want, as long as it makes you feel better.
      
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      June 26, 2024 12:15pm
      - Ghost
        
        What a stupid post. this man is a victim.. nice victim blaming.
        
        And yes forgiving allows him to live his life and not let this destroy his life, you’d know that if you’d ever had someone you love killed by another.
        
        Grow up and stop blaming the victim of this murder for it
        
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        June 26, 2024 1:50pm
- Sacha
  
  It’s hard to imagine the horror of the ‘event’.
  One wonders what Lauren feels/thinks about her actions. Does she have any feelings at all? Does she know why?
  Was she amenable to the move from her home country, or did she feel coerced into it?
  Perhaps one day she will tell us –
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:40am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Perhaps one day she will be dead.
    She’s a murdering scumbag.
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:01pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I agree with you Ghost but I was annoyed at her family blaming New Zealand. Is the government better in S.A.
  
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  June 26, 2024 3:27pm
Damocles11

Saw a copy of the marxist NZ Herald at the local cafe. The cartoon today from Parton is sickening: a black heart in all its aortic glory, with the word COALITION emblazoned across it. A trickle of red is oozing out and forming a $ symbol in congealed blood. This is just filth, the contempt for the Coalition and its voters is laid bare. Subscribers are paying to fund this type of utterly disgraceful garbage.
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June 26, 2024 11:18am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Make a complaint, I note very laid back in rolling poll delivery last night, and she even mentioned the outrage of her last performance
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:35pm
Maggie Pie

And nothing more heard from Mitch about ordering
gang members to apply foundation on their facial tatts.

Not sure that it would be 100% effective anyway (?)

Here’s a tattooed nasty in the US appearing for sentence on two murder charges.
Looks as tho he’s applied Dermablend Concealer, but the ink is still visible….

WATCH:

https://x.com/LawCrimeNetwork/status/1805693540460003823
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June 26, 2024 11:24am
- cmm
  
  I don’t think foundation from the make up counter would do it.
  Rather go down to Bunnings and get an angle grinder + wire brush.
  
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  June 26, 2024 11:39am
  - imalwaysright
    
    And not a cordless one either.
    
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    June 26, 2024 12:20pm
    - cmm
      
      3 phase if you can get it.
      
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      June 26, 2024 5:26pm
cmm

Mitchell was on News Hub saying he wants to get a few cops to stroll around Papatoetoe in a show of force to make the people “feel safe”.

I don’t think the people want to see pageantry to feeling safe. They want to actually be safe.

Having cops do a show of force after events is bloody useless. It’s like the Irish parachute that opens on impact.

What we need are:
1) the cops ready to respond, immediately. There should be no reason why cops cannot respond to a 111 call within 5 minutes within any city area – within 2 minutes in any retail area.
2) actually dealing with the criminals properly so they don’t feel they are above the law. This refusing to arrest people for less than $100 stuff is nonsense.
3) time to grow up and accept that we are not the society we were 30 years ago. Time to allow decent people to have self protection equipment. Firearms might be a bit too much for society to accept – yet, but how about allowing pepper sprays etc?
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June 26, 2024 11:47am
- Keith White
  
  1. Castle doctrine implemented and respected even by effwit judges
  
  2. Non-lethal home defense permitted – for example Byrna pepper-filled CO2-powered airguns
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:21pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Agree.
  I like the armed plain clothes cops on motorbikes method used in London etc.
  
  There are plenty of cops available, remember Adern assigned 35 armed response personnel to shadow the Countdown stabber a few year ago until they pressured him into flipping out and stabbing white people.
  
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  June 26, 2024 12:25pm
  - MCōs
    
    Ardern didn’t assign anyone
    It had no more to do with her than that pylon falling over had to do with the current PM
    Furthermore
    Those dairy robberies are over in a couple of minutes and the perpetrators aren’t going to be apprehended in the act except by chance.
    Didn’t the police have some sort of flying squad a few years ago that was disbanded because they couldn’t get to the crime scenes quick enough to be any use?
    
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    June 26, 2024 1:24pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      She was at the meeting with the police and the SIS.
      They formulated the plan together. She was the Prime Minister, therefore she was in charge.
      Ask yourself why was the PM involved in this at all.
      
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      June 26, 2024 2:12pm
    - cmm
      
      Having a “flying squad” from a central office is pretty useless.
      
      Here in Christchurch after 5 pm, everything comes from Chch central.
      
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      June 26, 2024 2:19pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Treason Part 2.

Maori Science is BS.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/this-is-treason-part-2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdxU88TzS8o
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June 26, 2024 12:09pm
imalwaysright

This is great

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/520585/air-nz-receives-500-000-million-litres-of-sustainable-fuel-made-from-used-cooking-oil

500,000 million litres !
Say about a dollar a litre ( but the vegan option is double the cost of actual jet fuel):
$500,000,000,000.

About twice the countries GDP!

Great work RNZ, you really are thick
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June 26, 2024 12:47pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Anything that involves arithmetic or science, forget RNZ journalists getting it right. 😆
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:26pm
- MCōs
  
  From the article
  “Air New Zealand has taken delivery of 500,000 litres of sustainable aviation fuel made from used cooking oil.”
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:28pm
  - jonno1
    
    Now reduced to 50,000 l. How far will that go?
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:07pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Clearly they have corrected it.
    Well spotted though…
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:39pm
- cmm
  
  This stuff is way more expensive than regular JetA1. There is very limited supply (less than 1% of the fuel required) and all the airlines are fighting with each other – pushing the price up.
  
  NZ uses around around 2 million litres of jet fuel a day, so that 500,000 litres is a quarter of a day’s supply and will, literally, be gone before lunchtime.
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:31pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Add to that the regulations don’t permit more than 50% vegan in the aircraft.
    Wonder why.
    
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    June 26, 2024 2:42pm
thirteenstars

Jewish Population Decrease in Arab Countries vs. Arab Population Growth In Israel:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1dogemd/jewish_population_decrease_in_arab_countries_vs/

21% of Israel’s population is Arab. Looked at another way, Arabs make up more of Israel’s population than Maori do in NZ.
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June 26, 2024 12:55pm
kevn

imal… Guaranteed to gum up moving parts. Maintenance costs will rocket.
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June 26, 2024 1:03pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Agreed,
  My point is the quantity.
  500 billion litres????
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:12pm
bennerg

Paul Goldsmith announces a cap on sentencing discounts at 40 percent:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/06/government-to-introduce-tougher-penalties-for-serious-crimes.html

To ensure checks and balances, how about:

1. A Sentencing Judge discretion is only 10%, and only on serving time
2. Any further reduction requires the judge to approve said appeal, and they are limited to the number they can send to appeal. eg 12 per year.
3. Appeals to the Appeals Court can only be on facts of the case, not sentencing, and must meet strict criteria regarding additional information on the case of regarding witnesses.
4. Discharges without conviction to be monitored.
5. Cases involving lawyers, politicians etc to be in front of a three judge panel, so avert any bias from the small pool of judges in NZ and their potential relationships with the accused.
6. No allowance allowed for potential affect on their reputation, or ability to travel (sports / business) as that is part of the sentence.

Any other ideas?
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June 26, 2024 1:04pm
- cmm
  
  ” 4. Discharges without conviction to be monitored.”
  
  Does that make any sense? Discharge without conviction is an acquittal. Monitoring is a form of confinement and I would be surprised if that could be applied.
  
  I really think that they don’t need more toys. They just need to apply the current systems better. For example people wagging on home detention likely won’t be checked up on, let alone thrown back in prison for breaking their parole conditions.
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:46pm
- Grunter
  
  Here’s one I’d love to bring in, call it ‘The Hypocrisy Sentence”.
  
  If you are found guilty of a crime that is deemed to be hypocritical of your role in society, then your sentence is doubled.
  
  So pedophile Preists – double the sentence
  MP’s responsible for law & order that go shop lifting – double the sentence
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:56pm
- bennerg
  
  If I can add a couple more,
  
  (1) that is eligibility for parole changed from being one third way though, to either two thirds or three quarters way through, to reflect the real severity of the sentence.
  
  (2) that a re-integration program start at least 6 months before they leave incarceration, to ensure they have a plan of where to live, have employment, and a means of income – and not a benefit! And monitoring and mentoring for at least another 6 months. I believe that a conviction should consist of two elements – punishment, and a reorientation to ensure it deosn’t happen again.
  
  (3) that sentencing does not ever take into account the spaces available, or lack thereof, in prison, and that there are trigger points to ensure that there is always capacity – even it it is a tent city in the midde of nowhere.
  
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  June 26, 2024 9:08pm
thirteenstars

A new Taxpayers’ Union – Curia poll has revealed that an overwhelming majority of New Zealanders think shops should be allowed to open on Good Friday and Easter Sunday if they want to do so.

Voters were asked: “Most shops are currently forced by law to close on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Would you support or oppose allowing shops that want to open on these days to do so?”

64% of respondents were in support of giving shops this choice, while just 27% were opposed. 9% of respondents were unsure.

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_poll_majority_nz_want_easter_trading_restrictions_repealed

I suspect when Cameron Luxton’s bill comes up for the vote the Nats will make it a conscience vote providing them with cover to thwart the democratic will.
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June 26, 2024 1:09pm
- Paulus
  
  What about the new invention and holiday called Matariki, or Seven Sisters, first found by Galileo Galilei in 1580 or so, by his first Astronomic telescope ?
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:56pm
  - Mike
    
    This star cluster has been known since antiquity to many cultures, including Greeks (Pleiades), Celts (Welsh: Tŵr Tewdws, Irish: Streoillín), pre-colonial Filipinos (Mapúlon), Hawaiians (Makaliʻi), Māori (Matariki), Australian aboriginals, Persians (Parvīn), Arabs (al-Thurayyā), Chinese (mǎo), Quechua (Qullqa), Japanese (Subaru), Maya, Aztec, Sioux, Kiowa and Cherokee.
    
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    June 26, 2024 3:55pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    Except that Matariki does not require the closing of shops or the general down-tooling of labour. You can effectively disregard it which is not the case with Easter.
    
    Those who would like to pretend the proposed bill somehow removes Easter as a public holiday are not doing themselves any favours. Observe, pray, celebrate, but let the rest of us do otherwise.
    
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    June 26, 2024 5:26pm
- ISeeRed
  
  Shops open 364 days a year instead of 362? A non-issue. Again, we are not a serious country.
  
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  June 26, 2024 4:18pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    I agree. It should be a non-issue. Vote in favour of the bill, get those shops open, and also do all those other things.
    
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    June 26, 2024 5:28pm
- Ghost
  
  A political poll isn’t a democratic anything. If you want to go by political polls then do you also want to change government every time a poll has the left leading over the right?
  
  As for Easter trading, luxon has always said he is in favour of changing the laws
  
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  June 26, 2024 5:34pm
Maggie Pie

Jason Wallz reporting Speaker Jerry Brownlee has told the Gweens…. they can no longer fund Darleen’s legal fees from Parliamentary Services (the taxpayer) and must now dip into their private resources in future.
Maybe this will prompt a resolution sooner rather than later?

It’s now been over 100 days since Darleen (on ya’ bike) Tana was suspended on full pay.
Nice to be kicking back on Waiheke doing SFA and watching 4k a week drop into your account courtesy of hardworking taxpayers.

What a sick joke this country has become. Tell me ONE thing any member of the Greens (or TPM for that matter) has contributed to the betterment of New Zealand?

I’ll wait….
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June 26, 2024 1:26pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Sorry I cannot.
  
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  June 26, 2024 1:45pm
- cmm
  
  “Tell me ONE thing any member of the Greens (or TPM for that matter) has contributed to the betterment of New Zealand?”
  
  Certainly none of the current crop.
  
  Maybe if we went back to Rod and Jeanette we’d find you something.
  
  I actually found Nándor Tánczos a good bloke to deal with. Reasonable, rational and respectful to talk with even when you don’t agree. Quite unlike the new crew who go feral on you.
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:06pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Rod and Jeanette may look good in comparison to this rabble but they were equally crazy and good for nothing. Same as the bloke who runs Greenpeace here.
    
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    June 26, 2024 4:52pm
- peterwn
  
  Hopefully the legal services were paid for from the Greens budget allocation.
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:38pm
cmm

” they can no longer fund Darleen’s legal fees from Parliamentary Services”

What!

The bigger question is why she has been allowed to access this funding AT ALL!

The only time an MP should get any taxpayer funded legal support is when the legal issue is related to their work as an MP.

* Getting a divorce? Nope.
* Suing the neighbour over a fence? Nope.
* Unscrupulous business practices for your gig outside parliament? Nope.
* Potential criminal offending and corruption? Nope.

PS: How long do we keep having to pay this (inaudible’s) salary.

But then Gerry has always had a soft spot for Green crims.
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June 26, 2024 2:03pm
- Keith White
  
  The Virtue Signal beams strongly from the Speaker of the House. The Justice Signal, not so much.
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:55pm
pdm

I see Marama Davidson has two Questions today.

This could be her busiest work day since she entered parliament.
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June 26, 2024 2:07pm
- peterwn
  
  They are both the same equally worded question ie Does the PM stand by all his statements?. Surely the Clerk’s office should have removed one as it was a duplication.
  
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  June 26, 2024 2:35pm
  - MCōs
    
    #1 & #6 HON MARAMA DAVIDSON to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his Government’s statements and actions?
    I’ve listened to question time occasionally for decades and this question or similar always crops up. It’s obviously designed to catch the PM or whoever, out with curly supplementary questions.
    However
    It’s also a chance for the PM to dazzle the listeners with some amazing achievements eg government funding for Xavier Rush’s hair transplant business
    
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    June 26, 2024 4:02pm
- MCōs
  
  While she’s recovering from her cancer treatment she’ll be able to spend her day posting snarky remarks on social media.
  Real work
  
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  June 26, 2024 3:46pm
Benedict Yu

So these children go feral and walk out of class. The teacher grabs the arm of a girl and tries to get her back inside the classroom. Some other stuff which is disputed.

Teacher fined $15,000 and loses career.

https://www.thepress.co.nz/nz-news/350322470/thats-not-child-abuse-kid-claims-teacher-said-alleged-slap

Yet a trans activist can punch an elderly woman with no consequences.
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June 26, 2024 2:13pm
Maggie Pie

“The exploitation of immigrant workers in New Zealand is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE”

– Brook van Velden (in ansa to Q11 relating to…
Modern Day Slavery and exploitation in NZ)

Wonder what the penalty for that is?
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June 26, 2024 2:59pm
- ISeeRed
  
  And guess who is doing much of the exploiting? Other immigrants. Deport them.
  
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  June 26, 2024 4:19pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    We really need to tighten up the award of citizenship. Extend it to 10 years minimum as a resident, spotlessly clean record only. Outski has to remain an option.
    
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    June 26, 2024 8:39pm
cmm

Not happy with little boys putting their fingers in dykes, I see the Dutch stoop to a new low: including a paedophile in their Olympic beach volleyball team.

After serving just a quarter of his term for grooming and having sex with a 12 year old girl, this monster shows no remorse.

” I have been branded as a sex monster, as a paedophile. That I am not, really not.”

Personally I think he should be down at the pistol range and they can use him as a target.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/paris-olympics-2024-dutch-volleyball-player-who-raped-12-year-old-british-girl-qualifies-for-olympics/PCXYUA64MNFBTHQVE5JJKSFDIA/
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June 26, 2024 3:06pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Could the ‘Olympics’ stoop any lower allowing him to compete?
  
  Mind you, it sort of goes with the article I read a few weeks ago where Paris officials have arranged for 300,000 condoms to be available for the 14,000 athletes at the Village. That works out at 21 1/2 each.
  (I see where some people are calling for filthy pedos to be fed into a wood-chipper.)
  
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  June 26, 2024 3:48pm
  - Ghost
    
    He’s only qualified with the vollyball federation, the Dutch Olympic committee haven’t confirmed his placing yet
    
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    June 26, 2024 4:40pm
  - cmm
    
    Since it takes 2 to tango, that’s an average of 43 sexual encounters each over about 15 day – 3 times a day.
    
    Will they have anything left for running and jumping?
    
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    June 26, 2024 5:25pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      I often take the dog around the block bewtween times 😀
      
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      June 26, 2024 7:02pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump claims he was punished in Fulton County Jail when arrested.
They took his mug shot and broadcasted it to the World for all to see – to embarrass Trump.
” A report in February from WinRed, Republican’s online fundraising platform, confirmed Trump raised a whopping $4.2 million the day after his mugshot was released.”
$4.2M, isn’t that a fucking shame???? 🙂

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-claims-he-was-punished-in-fulton-county-jail-when-arrested/ss-BB1oQTd0?
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Steve Otto(North Shore)

Federal employees who oppose Trump to be exposed before election.
The left seems to be getting pissed off about the right playing the doxing game. See it’s different when the left do it! 🙂

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/federal-employees-who-oppose-trump-to-be-exposed-before-election/ss-BB1oSck8?
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June 26, 2024 4:35pm
Ghost

Good to see

An over 20,000 signature-strong petition calling on the Government to urgently make stalking illegal was handed to Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith outside Parliament on Wednesday.

Article

MPs from the Labour Party and the Greens were also in attendance.

I’ve forgotten, who was part of the government over the last 6 years.

Labour MP Ginny Andersen lodged a member’s bill earlier this year to make stalking a separate offence, carrying a term of up to five years in prison.

Again. Why? You had 6 years to do something about this.
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- Mike
  
  So why wasn’t anything done in the 9 years from 2008, or the 9 yearsfrom 1999, or…
  That’s a rubbish argument.
  
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  June 26, 2024 5:46pm
  - Ghost
    
    Let’s see what victims’ advocate Ruth Money Has to say about labour’s plans last election.
    
    “It signals an intent, which is great, but for us in the sector we’re… sad and frustrated that they’ve been in Government for such a long time, and we’ve got people on the frontline being harmed so regularly, that we need to tighten this stuff up now,” she told co-host Michael O’Keeffe.
    
    Money also hit back at Police Minister Ginny Andersen’s argument legislation hadn’t been considered earlier due to the “complex” nature of stalking, which can be difficult to prove in a court of law.
    
    “Other jurisdictions do it successfully. The ministry has lots and lots of people doing lots and lots of research all the time: combine that with us on the frontline, who have been saying for years, ‘This is a huge problem,'” Money said. “And why aren’t we privileging the lived experience of people who are being stalked? It stops them living their lives… their freedoms are stopped because of this.
    
    “I’m sorry Ginny, but…”
    
    “You don’t buy it?” O’Keeffe interjected, to which Money responded: “No.”
    
    “This is costing people’s lives. People are being murdered, which is the extreme, but even if we don’t end up with a homicide, we have people that are terrified in their houses, unable to leave,” she went on.
    
    “It’s absolutely not good enough.
    
    Article
    
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    June 26, 2024 6:07pm
    - Mike
      
      You’re not addressing my point.
      
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      June 26, 2024 6:14pm
      - Ghost
        
        Perhaps Mike, you can show us all the articles of national promising to do something about stalking in that time frame, you know, like labour did during their term of government and did nothing.
        
        And here is justice minister little open to looking at nz stalking laws in 2020. And yet nothing.
        
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/first-up/audio/2018760297/justice-minister-open-to-reviewing-laws-affecting-victims-of-stalking
        
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/first-up/audio/2018760098/calls-for-stalking-law-as-lockdown-raises-concerns-for-victims-we-have-no-protection
        
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        June 26, 2024 6:41pm
      - Mike
        
        So why isn’t there a stalking law now?
        Was stalking not a problem in the 1980s, 1990s or 2000s?
        Could it be that the justice ministry folks are right about the complexities?
        Do we even need a specific stalking law?
        Has Goldsmith promised a stalking law?
        
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        June 26, 2024 6:50pm
      - Ghost
        
        So you aren’t going to show us the articles of national promising to look at the stalking laws? Perhaps you can bring up nationals justice minister in that time frame making the same promise labours little did. Perhaps then you can show us the articles of people in that time frame asking for the stalking laws to be changed.
        
        No. Perhaps you just need to admit labour promised something and again didn’t follow through
        
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        June 26, 2024 7:29pm
      - Mike
        
        Now you are just being silly. I sometimes forget that blog comments are not places for rational discussion.
        
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        June 26, 2024 8:38pm
      - Ghost
        
        So that’s a no that you can’t find national saying they were going to look at the stalking laws, or that there were people asking them to do so. I guess also a no to holding to account his own party for failing to do what they promised again,
        
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        June 26, 2024 9:11pm
Maggie Pie

Saw this on 1EWES earlier 🙁

BNZ whistleblower Mel Bowen wins case against te Bank following a lengthy court fight after witnessing what she believed was serious wrongdoing ….

https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/finance/bnz-mistreated-whistleblower-authority-finds

(For some reason they appear to have used an old photo)
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  Yeah, I saw that.
  
  Note the Businessdesk caption – “image supplied” – lol!
  
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