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Yvette

Jordan Williams : We can’t afford cancer drugs, but can afford this?
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/jordan-williams-we-can-t-afford-cancer-drugs-but-can-afford-this

Chat AI précis –
In the face of underfunded cancer drug programs, the Health Research Council’s latest funding decisions appear questionable. The council, tasked with supporting impactful health research, allocated significant sums to projects with dubious relevance to urgent health needs. These include:

1. $649,992 for a project exploring Māori youth wellbeing.
2. $398,771 for integrating traditional Māori healing into cancer care.
3. $377,550 for a study on Māori music and healing.
4. $150,000 for health promotion in a barbershop.
5. $150,000 for culturally centered hospital waiting rooms.
6. $400,000 for exploring traditional Māori lunar calendar effects on pregnancy.
7. $649,561 for developing a Fijian health model.
8. $649,997 for a researcher’s professional development.

These grants total $3,425,871, highlighting potential misallocation of funds. With the Health Research Council’s annual budget at $125 million, over $30 million seems detached from direct health benefits. This misprioritization impacts patients waiting for life-saving cancer drugs, suggesting that available funds are not being effectively utilized.

Jordan Williams is a constitutional and commercial lawyer who is Executive Director & Co-founder of the Taxpayers’ Union.

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from July 2022 –
How Māori use maramataka to care for mental health issues and how the practice will be incorporated into treatment by Māori Health Authority

The new Māori Health Authority has a budget of half a billion dollars and CEO Riana Manuel has allocated $100 million of that to support centuries-old treatments
“Connecting people back to those spaces and places that have been long forgotten is certainly something that will be investing in,” Manuel said.
Just like they do with Matariki, Māori use maramataka as a way of reading the cosmos to prepare for what’s coming.
“It’s a way of rebuilding the body, your wairua, and rebuilding your energy and getting prepared for the high energy days ahead,” Makiha said.
“So it goes in waves like that and if people understand it and go back to that rather than rush, rush, rush every day, I think that’s what drives a lot of the ill-health.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/07/how-maori-use-maramataka-to-care-for-mental-health-issues-and-how-the-practice-will-be-incorporated-into-treatment-by-maori-health-authority.html

What happened to the $100 million?
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June 20, 2024 8:01am
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  “potential” misallocation of funds?
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:55am
- Countrygirl
  
  Sorry fat finger. Should have been a green tick.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:12am
- Grunter
  
  Jordan is doing a very good job at Taxpayers Union.
  
  This racist lunacy, wasting taxpayers’ money will never be called out by the MSM.
  
  And remember, the Govt is borrowing money to fund this crap.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:48am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Guys, plse donate to FSU, Hobson’s Pledge and Stop Co-Governance etc. Whatever you can afford. Billionaire airheads/psychopaths are donating 100s of millions to evil far left causes.
    
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    June 22, 2024 7:56pm
- cmm
  
  What I suggest is that everyone who voted for this shit be required to use it.
  
  Will Marama Davidson be principled and sort out her breast cancer by reading the cosmos and rebuilding her wairua? Naah, thought not.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  We css as n afford cancer drugs d as nd they are coming this year
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:17pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    To decipher Gs code use, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets page 123, paragraph 2.
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:16pm
    - AitchW
      
      Unless you’re a grownup, in which case keep on scrolling.
      
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      June 20, 2024 7:40pm
- Damocles11
  
  Just another way of redistributing money from taxpayers to the type of people who the Left want to see be enriched. I think these (psuedo) academics and ‘researchers’ will be living pretty high on the hog with the kind of money that is being thrown around. Totally worthless ‘research’ that will not benefit the general public in any way, they must p*ss themselves laughing coming up with some of these bizarre ‘projects’. Well over $600,000 for somebody’s ‘professional development’ is absolutely disgraceful, this is more that the PM gets paid in a year. We have students going into debt to become medical doctors, yet somebody gets this vast sum of money lavished upon them? It is just so wrong, so unfair.
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:52pm
- Ehlana
  
  I’d really like to see an explanation of how pregnancy is different depending on how you tell time.
  
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  June 20, 2024 2:24pm
Matt Long

This is why you can’t have any nice toys.
Fatuous dolphin huggers chase SailGP out of Christchurch.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350315963/sailgp-wont-return-christchurch-2025
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June 20, 2024 8:02am
- Scott
  
  Agree Matt. How many dolphins have actually been hit by sailboats? Cancelling a world leading event because they might might hurt some dolphins is beyond me. No wonder we are in decline.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:13am
  - I remember when
    
    Apart from fishing mortalities, where there is some ability to control dolphin deaths, what data is there on causes of death.
    What sort of statistical data is there showing the possibility of various causes of death?
    Without this data do we even know whether any actions taken are actually beneficial?
    For those devoted to ‘the cause’, this can be useful as it results in the ability to prevent activities that ‘might’ possibly lead to deaths.
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:42am
- kevn
  
  Matt… No dolphins in the Waitemata apparently?
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:15am
  - Matt Long
    
    Apparently North Island dolphins are sentient and motile.
    
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    June 20, 2024 8:20am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      They also don’t have helicopter greenies as minders.
      
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      June 20, 2024 8:34am
      - imalwaysright
        
        They will be congregating at some muddy communal space in their horsehair garb, sans soap and deodorant, salivating over their fern frond and couscous stew, trying to out smug each other while they laugh too loudly every time one of them mentions Coutts.
        Sad bastards.
        
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        June 20, 2024 10:24am
  - G152
    
    They are not that stupid
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:24am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Must be something in the Sth Island water then?
      
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      June 20, 2024 5:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Russell can’t be bothered with those shitheads. Lyttleton/Christchurch misses out on the sport dollars.
  SailGP needs to be held in the City of Sails. If not, it is another sport going offshore like Americas Cup.
  All of these protesters are just anti-capitalism.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:15am
  - pdm
    
    Plenty of room off Napier.
    
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    June 20, 2024 8:34am
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    Wgtn has reliable wind…and a natural amphitheater
    
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    June 20, 2024 8:47am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Good idea Kiwi.
      By then the harbour will be full of ex civil servants who have thrown themselves off Shed 5 wharf.
      
      Should be quite a spectacle !
      
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      June 20, 2024 10:33am
    - zulumonster
      
      Coutts doesn’t want a natural amphitheater though. There would be too many freeloaders … he needs a space where they can restrict the viewing to the paying customers …
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:46am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Imagine Poneke Harbour full of spectator boats and waka.
        
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        June 20, 2024 12:31pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Port Nicky
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:59pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Nobody will pay to get a seat to watch. They only spend other people’s money.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:29pm
    - AitchW
      
      We went to Lyttelton for Sail GP this year and were less than impressed when the Saturday racing was cancelled because there was a dolphin somewhere near the course.
      Credit to the organisers, our tickets were refunded that night.
      I’d love to see the racing in Wellington next year. I’d even go to Auckland….
      
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      June 20, 2024 7:45pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Auckland gave sail GP the two finger salute a couple of years ago, man there is some short memories
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:19pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You do know why G?
      
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      June 20, 2024 5:18pm
Matt Long

Blackrock shares that the Low Carbon Transition is hindering productivity and growth, keeping inflation and interest rates high, and populations poorer.
“Population aging, the rewiring of global supply chains and the low-carbon transition are constraining production and driving capital investment as economies try to adapt”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/06/18/blackrock-issues-unprecedented-fed-warning-after-300-billion-bitcoin-and-crypto-price-crash/
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June 20, 2024 8:07am
- sirknz
  
  Throw in some olives and maybe some anchovies if you like that sort of thing and the Blackrock word salad would be perfect.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:23am
- jkt
  
  And…..
  
  Do we really need to quote BlackRock when common sense has said this all along.
  
  If this was an apology by BlackRock ……
  
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  June 20, 2024 11:16am
Scott

Why we should not support Gaza.
The 4 hostages who were recently rescued from Gaza were held captive by civilians. They were brutally beaten and tortured by Palestinian civilians in their home in central Gaza. One of these civilians was a journalist with bylines in Al Jazeera and his physician father.
https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-start-using-term-palestinian-civilian-correctly-opinion-1913628
There have been many other reports of Israeli hostages held captive by civilians including doctors and UN employees.
The people of Gaza support Hamas and are not innocent. Why people in NZ come out on the weekends to protest in support of these brutal people is beyond me?
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June 20, 2024 8:11am
- Muttonbird
  
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  Why is it ok for Israel to compulsorily conscript the civilian population, but it’s not ok for Palestine to do so?
  
  The people of Israel support Government war criminals and are not innocent.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:48am
  - RightNow
    
    Palestinian fighters magically turn into civilians when killed by Israeli fighters.
    Many of the males also identify as women and children.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:23am
    - emmess
      
      Ohhhh, so that is why the terrorists have allied with the alphabet people? Or the other way around at least.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:52pm
      - RightNow
        
        Yep, those are really queer Muslims
        
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        June 20, 2024 5:08pm
  - waikatosinger
    
    You miss the point which is that once conscripted civilians are no longer civilian. The people that Israel conscripts become soldiers, wear uniforms, and obey the rules of the Geneva convention. These conscripted Gazans are not in uniform and they are complicit in acts that violate the Geneva convention. They are not therefore protected by the Geneva convention and Israel would be quite justified in simply shooting them out of hand.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:34am
    - Muttonbird
      
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      The people that Israel conscripts become soldiers, wear uniforms, and obey the rules of the Geneva convention.
      
      Best laugh I’ve had all week!
      
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      June 20, 2024 10:03am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    FFS. You can’t see the difference? The IDF is the armed forces of a democratic state. There is no such thing as the “Gaza Army”. The correct term is “terrorists”.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:51am
    - cmm
      
      To be fair there are other non-state military bodies that are not all terrorists.
      
      For example you might consider the SWAPO, UNITA and many other “freedom fighters” while in their military roles (many of them also had terrorist elements to their operations too).
      
      But to be a legitimate “freedom fighter” requires:
      * Wearing a uniform of sorts.
      * Not trying to hide amongst civilians. If you do so and there is collateral damage then it is on you – not the forces attacking you.
      
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      June 20, 2024 10:48am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “…The IDF is the armed forces of a democratic state…”
      
      I’m sure that provides a certain comfort to the deceased.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:01am
      - cmm
        
        What the deceased should rather focus on is why they are being used (illegally) as human shields.
        
        In a human shield scenario, all the moral baggage falls on the terrorists using civilians as human shields – not on the people pursuing them.
        
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        June 20, 2024 12:45pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        “What the deceased should rather focus on is why they are being used (illegally) as human shields.”
        
        What a ridiculous statement .
        
        Oh, and by the way, the British army in Northern Ireland just loved hiding behind prams and strutting their stuff around Catholic
        schools.
        
        Scenarios are for wankers
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:14pm
  - Paulus
    
    I did not know that Israel invaded Gaza in October last !~
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:26am
    - waikatosinger
      
      How it can be occupying Gaza and simultaneously invade it …
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:51am
  - cmm
    
    OK Mutton, I’ll bite:
    
    “Why is it ok for Israel to compulsorily conscript the civilian population, but it’s not ok for Palestine to do so?”
    
    There is no problem if the Palestinians do so, but then they should do so according to the rules of war:
    * Put on uniforms.
    * Acknowledge that all places where they operate are military assets. Your apartment is a military target if it is used to conduct military activities (including housing soldiers, holding weapons, etc etc ). Therefore your apartment is a legitimate military target.
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:28am
  - Geri Sjovik
    
    Wow, that is so many levels of stupid it really does make you a total [Mod – language please]
    
    Can you even understand how different the two scenarios are?
    
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    June 20, 2024 5:32pm
    - Geri Sjovik
      
      I thought I was being polite and had toned it down from what I really wanted to say.
      
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      June 20, 2024 8:33pm
ds

Tesla-grumpy-only-handpicked-allies-of-the-current-government-consulted-on-secretive-attempt-to-water-down-emissions-standard/
Summary from the Herald article.

The article discusses a controversial review of emissions standards for vehicles imported into New Zealand, led by Transport Minister Simeon Brown. Here are the key points and issues highlighted in the text:

Secrecy and Lack of Transparency: The government is quietly reviewing emissions standards without broad consultation or publicity. Critics, including Tesla, argue that the process lacks transparency and only includes feedback from selected allies of the government.

Changes to Standards: Minister Brown aims to repeal the existing Clean Car Standard, which mandates a balance between polluting vehicles and clean ones imported, or face fines. The new proposal would replace specific emissions standards set by legislation with standards set by Cabinet through regulations.

Consultation Issues: Tesla and other EV proponents are frustrated that the consultation process did not include stakeholders advocating for sustainable transport. They argue that the consultation was limited to industry bodies that may not support stringent emissions standards.

Legal and Policy Concerns: Critics argue that weakening the Clean Car Standard could be contrary to legislative obligations aimed at incentivizing the importation of low and zero-emissions vehicles. There are concerns about the government’s commitment to meeting emissions reduction targets and supporting sustainable transport initiatives.

Government Perspective: Minister Brown defends the review, stating it aims to align with international market standards while supporting economic growth. He emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to reduce transport emissions while ensuring a viable automotive sector in New Zealand.

Overall, the controversy surrounds accusations of limited consultation, potential rollback of environmental standards, and broader implications for New Zealand’s emissions reduction goals. The outcome of this review could significantly impact the future availability and affordability of low-emission vehicles in the country.
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June 20, 2024 8:15am
- All_on_Red
  
  If you think EVs are ‘sustainable’ then I have a very nice freshly painted Bridge to sell you
  Lol
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:05am
  - ds
    
    In the long run and with advances in battery technology I thing yes.
    Think the CDC 288 MB drive from the 80’s..
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:04am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      Think the CDC 288 MB drive from the 80’s..
      
      Surely it’s time for this comparison to be dropped by the EV enthusiasts? Solid-state electronics is not power electronics, physics is more scalable than chemistry, and the world of silicon chips is about scaling down power consumption not scaling up power production.
      
      There’s Nothing More Expensive Than A Cheap EV
      
      The electric automobile will quickly and easily take precedence over all other kids of motor vehicle as soon as an effective battery of light weight is discovered.
      …
      Prices on electric cars will continue to drop until they are within reach of the average family
      
      Headlines and writing ripped from today’s MSM right?
      
      The first quote is from the LA Times in 1901. The second from the Washington Post in 1915.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:10pm
      - ds
        
        You should read my comment a little more carefully.
        
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        June 20, 2024 5:55pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Uhuh
      Do let me know when you have found an environmentally way to dispose of Batteries
      And when when China stops burning coal to make them
      And when we all stop burning coal to power them
      And as a bonus when we stop using children to dig up the minerals
      And when we stop using environmentally unsound practices to mine the Rare Earth minerals needed.
      I’ll wait.
      
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      June 20, 2024 1:12pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        Are you so concerned with all the non-renewable resources and energy gas-powered cars use in their production, distribution and use? Or anything generally mass-produced? No one was crying about the child miners of the Congo when smartphones took off and were produced in their billions. Every existing and new technology has trade-offs, but the EV hate is beyond ridiculous.
        
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        June 20, 2024 3:02pm
- alloytoo
  
  There are no government obsticles to BEV adoption and the current government is unlikely to impliment any (except perhaps if there are safety concerns) The future availability and affordability of BEV will be determined by the market.
  
  Penalizing vendors because of market decisions is not only unethical, but will lead to wasteful market distortions.
  
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  June 20, 2024 11:47am
Muttonbird

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Consumer confidence worse than ’87. Thanks, National.

This is what happens when you talk the country down so much and fire people en masse. When you do that, guess what, people retreat and the economy goes into freefall. Muppets.

Maybe leave it to the Reserve Bank to do their job on inflation, otherwise stay positive and give people some direction and hope rather than scare them half to death.

Luxon and Willis demonstrably making things much, much worse…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2024/06/business-leaders-give-worrying-update-as-consumer-confidence-dwindles-companies-shut-up-shop.html
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June 20, 2024 8:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Those sacked or getting the DCM should never have been employed anyway.
  Ardern stacked the Public Sector to keep the unemployment numbers down. They were also part of Ardern’s control machine.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:39am
  - wsk12345
    
    And there is only 500 actual government job losses – hardly enough to tank the economy.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:08am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Well there are over 65,000 of them, so even 5000 would not tank the economy.
      The whole Public Sector is like Mr. Creosote.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:35pm
  - Paulus
    
    Did I not read that the highly left wing 4500 Education Department have a High Court Injunction, or something, forbidding them to create any redundancies.
    Think of the precedent in all Departments NOW !
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:29am
- pdm
  
  `Maybe leave it to the Reserve Bank to do their job on inflation’.
  
  Bloody hell the incompetent Orr and the incompetent Robertson are the ones who got New Zealand into this economic and inflationary mess.
  
  Orr has been promoted well above his capabilities and should resign. He won’t fix anything.
  
  Recession, depression or stagflation – we find out in about an hour.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:40am
  - Jack5
    
    …. Orr and the incompetent Robertson are the ones who got New Zealand into this economic and inflationary mess …
    
    Yes, by their 50 billion dollar blow-out of the money supply by printing money Social Credit style. This by bond issue and buy back.
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  6 years of Labour…
  6 Years of Robertson…
  6 years of incompetence…
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:41am
- Swifty
  
  Mutton blames the doctor, not the disease, for his feeling poorly.
  
  What an egg.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:47am
- NK
  
  Muttonhead, were you born a dickhead or did you learn the trait at one of our fine universities?
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:47am
- kingerstinger
  
  Comments like these make us glad you’re not in charge of anything Muttonbird…you pillock.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:53am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Is it OK to call someone names if there are enough supporters.
    Argue the point.
    Name-calling is juvenile behaviour.
    
    Not just you Kinger.
    
    Not a good look for Kiwiblog. Contrary opinions are still opinions.
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:10am
    - Pope Punctilious II
      
      I agree with you about the name-calling. There’s an awful lot more of it on The Standard (despite their admonition to “be kind”), but I’m disappointed to see it here. Name-calling just suggests the speaker’s run out of arguments.
      
      Of course the “kindness” imperative on The Standard only applies to people who have the “correct” views. I wouldn’t want to see the same Double Standard here.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:28pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Dunno Alwaysright
      Sometimes you just gotta call the Joo Hater a Joo Hater.
      They are what they are.
      
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      June 20, 2024 1:13pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        All,
        Some who you call Jew hater may be those, like me, who have no issue with anyones religion but in this case disagree with the conduct of the Israeli government .
        Who, by the way, do not have majority support of Israelis .
        
        If an Israeli disagreed with the NZ labour government would you call them a kiwi hater?
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:31pm
    - AitchW
      
      And puerile trolls are still puerile trolls.
      
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      June 20, 2024 7:49pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  Mutty. I know you are just trolling but…
  
  The cognitive dissonance needed to blame National for the current economic situation highlights the fundamental untruthfulness of the Left
  
  Labour borrowed and spent like tomorrow would never come. Tomorrow has come and it wants its pound of flesh
  
  Labour encouraged and underwrote the RBNZ Large Scale Asset Purchase programme which pushed billions of liquidity into the NZ banking sector.
  
  All that excess cash has driven inflation over the last 3 plus years. And now harsh monetary policy is required to corrected all the deliberate economic sabotage of your Labour Idols
  
  Oh, and the LSAP requires constant funding of the RBNZ to keep it solvent. LSAP has lost well north of Ten Billion dollars of tax payers money so far and that comes out of the RBNZs balance sheet
  
  So keep trolling, but anyone who is semi-conscious knows that the Left have deliberately screwed the NZ economy and the NZ taxpayers
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:53am
  - Paulus
    
    I still see many new expensive cars around, so where has this money come, borrowing ?, or where from as it is still around in large dollops ?
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:32am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      On leases… On tick….
      
      Im expecting the second half ute market to offer bargains as construction is slowing…
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:11am
    - PurplePen
      
      An acquaintance says he sees lots of expensive cars in poorer areas in Hastings such as Flaxmere.
      
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      June 20, 2024 3:14pm
- Yabster
  
  lol old Mutton- you have no idea- continue to post you’re that deluded it’s become funny.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:55am
  - Gravelroad
    
    More like young Mutton, Yabster.
    The old Mutton that appeared on here a few years back was much more intransigent and insulting than this one.
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:08pm
    - Swifty
      
      Mutton dressed as lamb!
      
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      June 20, 2024 1:14pm
      - Dodger
        
        hahaha
        
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        June 20, 2024 4:01pm
- Matt Long
  
  The public service hasn’t been shrunk yet, and honestly Mutton, while your people could destroy our economy in 3 years or shorter, it will take a long, long time for timid National to begin to rebuild from the wreckage.
  You can burn down a house in minutes, starting again from the ashes requires discipline, perseverance and time, and first you have to get rid of the rubbish that remains.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:11am
  - Paulus
    
    At present thinkin the Coalition will be turfed out at the next election, despite what good they are setting out to do, but the Media Party, Maori and the Unions are intent on that happening.
    There is ne’er a good word in any media for anything positive and good being done.
    It is all totally negative
    We are told that 60 % of families whatever pay no tax still.
    Cannot work ever on current Social Welfare arrangements, and nobody wants to change the system.
    No votes !
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:37am
    - Damocles11
      
      Well we still have people on the Right willing to fund the Left wing propaganda apparatus known as ‘the MSM’. No will power at all. I believe we are in an existential fight now against the Left, if they win the next election then the country is finished economically and societally.
      
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      June 20, 2024 1:58pm
    - PurplePen
      
      Surely Labour will have to win on their own, which is extremely unlikely. The alternative is they’ll need to convince the electorate that a coalition with Tea Party Maori and the Greens is going to be a good govt!
      
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      June 20, 2024 3:17pm
- RightNow
  
  Blame the six years of sabotage.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:25am
kowtow

I was at a pre election campaign meeting where Luxon literally promised a line by line accounting of govt spending ( of our money of course cos they have none of their own).

Was he telling porkies , is he comfortable with this , is there another explanation.

I reckon his political antenae ain’t good , what with all his promises around cancer funding .

See the nonsense our dollar does fund.

‘More than $30 million of the Health Research Council’s annual budget of $125 million seems to have very little to do with health. That money alone is nearly half what is needed to fund the 13 cancer drugs that weren’t in last month’s budget.’

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/jordan-williams-we-can-t-afford-cancer-drugs-but-can-afford-this
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June 20, 2024 8:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Public Sector was stacked with activists for reasons. Now the reasons are becoming clear. Activists spend out money on themselves.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:56am
- stewmar
  
  Matt Long
  Just wondering, did you watch the video?
  
  I stopped watching the video when the dude said civil war is an absolute certainty. What utter crap from someone who claims to be dealing in facts.
  That is not a fact it is an hysterical opinion.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:58am
igm

Cannot ignore these facts . . .

We can’t afford cancer drugs – but can afford this?

[Mod – cleaned up link]
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June 20, 2024 8:26am
stewmar

Steve please give me one example of how the Coalition government is supporting co governance.
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June 20, 2024 8:27am
- pdm
  
  Taumata Arowai was not abolished when 3/5/10/All/Mahuta Waters was.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:41am
  - Yvette
    
    More specifically, has the Maori Advisory Council to the New Zealand Water Regulator (Taumata Arowai) been abolished?
    
    New Zealand Government and all Government Departments should be secular – even at the cost of Christian references, removing te Ao Maori (religious worldview) would solve quite a few problems?
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:11am
    - Scott
      
      Yvette – a few Christian references would do no harm surely?
      Regarding the return of pagan Maori mythology I’m not a fan sorry.
      Christianity implies a creator separate from his creation. Christian countries develop industry and progress.
      
      Pagan “gods” on the other hand mean that you can’t develop on the river because of the location of the taniwha.
      There is a world of difference.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:08am
    - Don Beckett
      
      G.K.Chesterton :
      “When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing – they believe in anything.”
      
      That is essentially what we have now – pagan Maori spirituality & more returning with the ‘blessing’ of the government.
      No wonder things are continuing downhill.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    All Luxon said was 3 waters had been ‘repealed.’
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:36pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Watch the video and listen.
  I am just the messenger.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:42am
  - stewmar
    
    Do you seriously believe everything you see in every video?
    
    [Mod – debate without making it personal, thanks]
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:20am
    - Matt Long
      
      Just wondering, did you watch the video?
      
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      June 20, 2024 9:46am
Blog-aholic

I wonder why no photography and video taking during the ‘event’ is allowed? Does the dragster not like what might be captured?
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June 20, 2024 8:31am
Benedict Yu

Another drag story time. This is a drag king, rather than a queen but same concept.

https://www.upperhuttlibrary.co.nz/Events/Drag-StoryTots

The person is not so concerning. The kids will just see someone who looks like a clown. What is a concern is the stories that are on offer. I somehow doubt that this person is reading Sleeping Beauty or Thomas the Tank Engine.

Notice that it specifies no recording or filming allowed. I wonder why?
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June 20, 2024 8:45am
- Ghost
  
  Possibly to protect those who go to it. A Rotorua council report says
  
  The decision to cancel came as the risk profile escalated: “There was inadequate time and resources to address the key identified ‘safety’ risks”.
  
  Among these were “online abuse and threats to staff, storytellers and attendees (including children)”, the report said.
  
  Article
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:50am
  - jkt
    
    What is the rationale behind this?
    A “Drag King” performance seen as a way to get little children exited about reading?
    
    “Drag” is a weird adult fascination …..
    
    “The phycology of drag.”
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:48am
    - waikatosinger
      
      Someone dressed as C3PO or Darth Vader reading a Star Wars story; an actor dressed up like Hagrid reading Harry Potter; Santa Claus reading a Christmas story; Gandalf reading the Hobbit; these things I could understand as maybe adding excitement and mystery to the reading of children’s stories. But a man dressed up like a woman?
      
      A dude in drag has nothing to do with exciting children’s imaginations. This seems to be more about satisfying the narcissim or exhibitionism of adults.
      
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      June 20, 2024 4:24pm
      - Ghost
        
        It’s a drag king, so a woman dressed up as a man
        
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        June 20, 2024 5:08pm
      - jkt
        
        Yes indeed.
        A woman dressed as a dude …. same argument applies – what WaikatoSinger said!
        
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        June 21, 2024 8:22am
- Maggie Pie
  
  I posted the same link earlier asking if ‘Hutt Ratepayers’ were happy about this deviant behaviour around their tiny-tots.
  
  For some strange reason my post disappeared a few minits later?
  How strange….
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:51am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    mine too in reply.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:02am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Yes, I saw the comment before it disappeared, hence my comment. Maybe it disappeared because you posted a comment that breaches the comments policies.
    
    Given the very light handed moderation here, I am guessing that you know why it was deleted. 😂
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:03am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Mp,
    I saw that, I was in the middle of my reply…
    
    Here’s the man who is responsible for the library:
    
    Wayne Guppy
    wayne.guppy@uhcc.govt.nz
    
    Drop him a line and let him know your opinion. You don’t have to be a local.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:07am
    - jkt
      
      Incidentally.
      He, The Mayor, has an office inside the library.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:37am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Here’s my email, feel free to copy.
        
        “Mr Mayor ,
        
        If the planned event at our library goes ahead I will not only vote against you at the next election but I will discourage others from voting for you citing this event.
        Leave the kids alone.”
        
        Signed
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:44pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Thomas the Tank Engine has Gail the lesbian shunt engine.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:05am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Seen it. Some old rattler that can’t get the boiler stoked.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Gail gets a new paint job every month.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:38pm
- Gravelroad
  
  If there is demand for a story time at the library for “tots” why can’t an employee of the library do the reading – wearing ordinary clothes and make-up?
  I still don’t get the need for adults to dress up in extravagant costumes to read stories to tots.
  Unless it is more for the adult to get a kick out of than the kids.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:15pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Exactly . The librarians used to dress up as pirates and other characters relevant to the book ‘o the day.
    These pricks have picked out a book full of filth and are dressing and verbalising accordingly.
    
    If a parent got up to this behaviour at home and a teacher found out you can be sure that the police would pay a visit.
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:03pm
- PurplePen
  
  “This is a family friendly storytime, which means the content is appropriate to the audience. They will be reading stories about empathy, diversity, and belonging, while in audience appropriate costume. ”
  
  Why the need to specify that its a family friendly storytime, wouldn’t that be obvious by the event title? And why on earth specify its stories about empathy and diversity, and mention it’s audience appropriate costume.
  
  We used to go to pantomime, Gilbert and Sullivan shows and there was never any mention of the appropriate costumes, diversity or content.
  
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  June 20, 2024 4:11pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Here’s Williesmackntush doing their drag thing. https://www.instagram.com/willysmackntush/reel/C1Ng5VBSSQ0/?locale=sl
  
  Why only drag performers?. Why don’t they have firemen reading stories to kids or other different types of people.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:51pm
kingerstinger

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/loose-lipped-apprentice-pm-fallout-from-christopher-luxons-c-listers-clanger-barry-soper/FSRCM6EAYRBJLBSBTY752T2CPE/

I’m trying to work out if there’s an article in here amongst Barry’s hysterical whinging.
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June 20, 2024 8:55am
- kowtow
  
  There is and Soper’s right.
  
  ‘Luxon came across as a loose-lipped apprentice Prime Minister which he effectively is. He now says he could have expressed it in a better way which is something of an understatement.’
  
  Soper is doing what he does , holding power to account , which he did to Ardern’s mob .
  
  Refreshing, as the vast majoridy of te media paahti don’t.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:06am
  - Ghost
    
    Especially when some of the same people were with him on this trip, and he was also one of those people as head of air nz on the trips he talked about.
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:09am
  - kingerstinger
    
    No – and in fact he’s doing exactly what “Te Media Paahti” do, which is taking one comment and then spending a week blowing it out of proportion.
    
    The same “Te Media Paahti” who criticise people like Luxon for not getting to the point or speaking clearly – and then when he does (and he was right, by the way), they pile on. A load of bullshit.
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:39am
- MCōs
  
  Not the first time Mr Luxon has bad mouthed NZ businesses while offshore
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/fran-osullivan-christopher-luxons-wrong-call-putting-nz-business-down/TVPZ2URP3AKJSVULR25IUTKIMY/
  
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  June 20, 2024 11:04am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He never bad mouthed business, he stated the last government did it c lister styl, he was talking about taking union hacks and greenie nutters on these trips, he also didn’t like the fact these businesses were not allowed to conduct business, as opposed to the business they were able to do this time, remembering of course, he was on many of these trips
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:30pm
    - MCōs
      
      He badmouth businesses not business
      
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      June 20, 2024 5:39pm
Chuck Bird

Thumbs up David is the killer. Thumbs down Robin was the killer.

The Bain murders 30 years on: David Bain living under new name with family in Waikato

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-bain-murders-30-years-on-david-bain-living-under-new-name-with-family-in-waikato/QVMXU6I6NZDR7MYWKI4HTEN2OY/
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June 20, 2024 8:56am
- Libertarians are right
  
  I believe Robin killed the family, David killed Robin.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:02am
  - amospicton
    
    Amongst other evidence Robin had a full bladder. What are the odds that a man of his age and health got up before dawn and did all this with a full bladder?
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:33am
    - kingerstinger
      
      I’m 31 and the first thing I have to do upon getting up is have a slash. You can’t tell me a 58 year old goes round and murders his entire family and then commits suicide and doesn’t have one?
      
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      June 20, 2024 10:39am
      - G152
        
        Some times we oldies piddle a bit off the top and go about doing stuff then get back 10 minutes later to take the pressure off
        
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        June 20, 2024 11:30am
      - kowtow
        
        g152
        
        Great control there !
        When I piddle “a bit off the top” its time to change my grundies ……..
        
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        June 20, 2024 11:57am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Umm, your theory also means, why didn’t he have a pee as soon as he got up? I do.
      In other words, why was he still walking around with a full bladder anyway?
      
      – I really have no view on what happened.
      
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      June 20, 2024 1:16pm
  - Rusty
    
    @Libertarians – I have heard that theory. Why wouldn’t David have used that in his defense?
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:00am
  - Damocles11
    
    Zero *evidence* Robin killed the family.
    If you want to believe Robin was ‘a very bad man’, then by all means believe the hearsay about things that allegedly happened prior to the events of the day in question. Equally, there is much evidence that could equally be regarded as hearsay regarding David, and some of it was not allowed to be presented to the Jury.
    So setting aside all the hearsay, look at the actual forensic and circumstantial evidence of what happened that day, and it becomes clear who the killer was. Someone physically strong, someone who prepared an alibi, someone who made key mistakes.
    The theory that you believe in seems to simply be an intriguing theory and nothing more, as it is one unsupported by evidence.
    
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    June 20, 2024 2:17pm
- Swifty
  
  His bloody prints, the gloves, the glasses, the computer entry, the gurgling, his statement that “they’re all dead” when he had only seen two of the five……and that’s only the start.
  
  Oh he did it alright.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:09am
  - Rusty
    
    @Swifty – and David’s motive was?
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:03am
    - Swifty
      
      Don’t know, don’t care. But more importantly don’t need to know. The evidence tells me all I need to know.
      
      Only he truly knows why he did it.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:58am
    - kowtow
      
      In our system motive doesn’t matter .
      
      Why did he arrange to ensure that everyone was there for the bigly important family meeting. That was down to David , not Robin .
      
      Oh and why did he wash his clothes in the midst of that slaughter .
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:01pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Rusty: Despite widespread relief, it is NOT necessary to prove motive to obtain a conviction for murder. Having a motive makes it easier perhaps, but means and opportunity are the factors which must be proved by the prosecution.
      
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      June 20, 2024 1:42pm
    - Damocles11
      
      Maybe David believed his family was screwed up (at least 4 members were ‘strange’ – Margaret, Laniet, David, and Robin) – and blamed the family for his struggles on life. I call him ‘the worlds oldest paperboy). David had delusions of becoming an opera singer. He’d also clashed with his father and was probably resentful and angry. He’d crashed a valuable motorbike and had been using prostitutes. He had plenty of reason to feel like a failure and look for someone or something to blame for his situation. Maybe he though by wiping out his family he would be free of their influence and would then flourish, particularly if he could garner sympathy as ‘the innocent victim of a tragedy’.
      ‘You were the only one who deserved to stay’ seems more like a comment by David on David than something Robin would say. David was pretty much a failure, whereas Arawa was an academic star and the head girl at her school.
      
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      June 20, 2024 2:08pm
      - Geri Sjovik
        
        Bingo!
        
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        June 20, 2024 8:42pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Swifty: I acted for the late Mr S, who felt hugely aggrieved that, as he saw it, David Bain had walked away, leaving the blame for the murders on his late father. While his acquittal could course not be relitigated, Mr S wanted to bring a private prosecution against Bain for perjury.
    
    I spent many hours on the file, and met with potential witnesses, including Bain’s lawyer at the first trial. In the course of my investigation I became ever more firmly of the view that Bain junior was indeed a multiple murderer. I can only wonder how he sleeps at night….if indeed he does.
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:51am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      David, what do you think of National paying David Bain nearly a million when they knew he was the killer and he could do nothing if they choose not to pay him anything.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:08pm
      - Ghost
        
        The lawyers were planning to legally challenge the report, so don’t know where you get the idea he could do nothing
        
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        June 20, 2024 12:24pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Ghost, where do you get the idea his non payment could be successively challenged where others could not challenge?
        
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        June 20, 2024 12:55pm
      - Ghost
        
        From the ministers statement that I have linked to you every time you have run with this line that he couldn’t do anything
        
        “Mr Callinan’s report found that Mr Bain has not established his innocence on the balance of probabilities. As such, no statement of innocence or compensation payment will be made to Mr Bain.
        
        “However, the Crown recognises that the compensation application process has lasted nearly six and a half years and that this has been an incredibly difficult and complicated case for all involved. Reaching this point has taken longer than anyone would have wanted it to.
        
        “In addition, since receiving Mr Callinan’s final report it has become evident that Mr Bain and his advisors didn’t accept Mr Callinan’s findings. They made it absolutely clear that they intended to legally challenge that report, leading to considerable further cost and delay in this matter.
        
        “While the Crown is confident in the strength of its position in any such review, it’s clearly desirable to bring finality to this case and avoid the cost and uncertainty of further proceedings.
        
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/conclusion-reached-bain-compensation-case
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:06pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I think they paid for the reasons Ghost points out and also to stop the ever increasing legal fees
        Isnt it about time you moved on?
        Your obsession is getting boring.
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:18pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Chuck: You already know what I think about that. You also knew the late Mr S I think; a top guy who I wish I had met sooner.
        
        For the record though, obtaining a conviction on a private prosecution was always going to be a hard task – especially given that his aunt refused to co-operate.
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:44pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Ghost, I gave you an uptick for your link.
        
        However, disagree with you and All_on_Red that a mass murderer should get compensation when those who choose to pay him know he was guilty just as a matter of cost. If they thought Mr Callinan got things wrong that would be different.
        
        Have you read Mr Callinan’s report or the trial transcripts? I have.
        
        Have you considered where the money would come from to challenge the report? Would David testify unlike in his second trial where he chose not to?
        
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        June 20, 2024 2:02pm
      - Ghost
        
        The case means nothing to me. It’s over, nothing can change what has happened. Let the man live his life. Putting up stupid posts every day asking if people think Bain did it achieves zero. Move on
        
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        June 20, 2024 2:15pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        We know what you think Chuck
        We know
        We know because you keep telling us
        Over and over and over again…
        
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        June 20, 2024 4:12pm
      - jkt
        
        David has to live with it.
        
        Revenge should never be the objective of government! Utu has no role to play in government.
        
        I am not for one moment saying that Utu does not inspire individuals or groups.
        
        Facts are. He was found guilty and then challenged the conviction successfully. That does not say he is not guilty but as any unbiased legal expert will tell you that David is now no longer legally guilty of murder. Those who were working on his behalf would not go away without a payment!!
        
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        June 21, 2024 8:32am
- RightNow
  
  There’s a lot of information the police couldn’t release. Thumbs up.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:28am
- MCōs
  
  Thirty years on and still banging on about this tragedy
  What are you hoping to achieve? He can’t be retried now and any other suspect or witness is dead.
  That article has picked a few choice bits out of a trial that went on for days to the detriment of the defence. Why didn’t the jury who sat through the whole wretched business not find him guilty?
  Maybe he’s not guilty, but not innocent. However there’s other people involved who had nothing to do with anything including kids and they don’t need to have the bone pointed at them
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:41am
  - cmm
    
    “Why didn’t the jury who sat through the whole wretched business not find him guilty?”
    
    Because of the way the defence kept hammering on the potential of doubt.
    
    Quite likely they all thought that David did it, but there’s this teenie, tiny, bit of doubt that Robin could potentially have done it. Therefore gotta find him not guilty.
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:03am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      There was also stuff the jury was not told like how David told someone how he could get away with rape by using his paper round as an alibi.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:27am
      - David Garrett
        
        Chuck: Again as you know, there was a lot of stuff the jury never got to hear.
        
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        June 20, 2024 1:45pm
  - kowtow
    
    Who’s banging on .
    
    Chuck ( who I’m sure can speak for himself) is simply raising an issue from te legacy media paahti .
    
    If anyone’s banging on , it’s them …….
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:08pm
    - Ghost
      
      That would be true if not for the fact chuck has been posting asking who thinks David did it for the last week.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:18pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        He should go back to writing his interminable letters.
        
        “Hey Davo- another letter from Chuck”
        
        “Righto, you know where to file it”
        Lol
        
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        June 20, 2024 4:45pm
      - Ghost
        
        I’m surprised we haven’t had another I’m not voting for such and such party ever again. So far he isn’t voting act because of what Seymour did in the election. Not voting national, not voting Winston for funding hamas. There is only Māori, labour and greens left…….
        
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        June 20, 2024 6:59pm
  - Damocles11
    
    A jury did find him guilty in the trial where he testified and ended up incriminating himself. At the retrial the defence wouldn’t let him testify. Add in Karams books and advocacy and public hysteria by his supporters, amplified, and I’m not sure how you could select a jury based that had not been influenced by the MSM. In NZ it seems that you just keep appealing until some level of the judiciary quashes your convictions, and then the state either gives up or re-tries you. You just need deep pockets and good lawyers.
    
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    June 20, 2024 6:49pm
- redeye
  
  I have no idea but this is pretty tabloid stuff from the NZ Herald. Guilty or innocent, he now has a family and his wife and kids had nothing to do with it.
  Doxing him, as they have, will cause them grief for sure and will achieve nothing else.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:00pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  Here you go Chuck, you can read all about it here in exhaustive detail in past Kiwiblog posts on David Bain.
  
  I was sure there were a couple that hit the 1000 comment mark but they’re not obvious and I jumped around a bit on that list and couldn’t find them.
  
  Fill ya boots and understand that a lot of people were obsessed with the case, or even just particular aspects of the case, so you joining in on the Key National government compo to the prick, years after it was done and with ZERO chances of changing anything now, fits right in.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:27pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Who walked away from the Bain home alive?
  
  Occam’s razor.
  
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  June 20, 2024 8:46pm
  - Geri Sjovik
    
    The dog survived.
    
    I never did trust that breed.
    
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    June 21, 2024 10:17am
Rusty

With all the talk of the Gaza strip becoming a state can someone remind me what it is at the moment or since 1948?

Is it an independent territory with their own govt and religion?
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June 20, 2024 8:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/who-governs-palestinians#:~:text=Since%202006%2C%20the%20Gaza%20Strip,Resistance%20Movement%E2%80%9D%20in%20Arabic.)
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:19am
- MCōs
  
  The whole history of Palestine for the first half of last century varies depending on who you listen to.
  However the two world wars undoubtedly caused huge problems for the area, which continue to today.
  The British were given control of the area after WWI and prior to WWII allowed in a large number of German refugees, which annoyed the existing landowners, both Jews, but mainly the majority Arabs.
  The Germans were Jews, but they were a different culture and were there because they had nowhere else to go.
  Of course you can look on the internet and find something completely different!!
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:31am
  - kowtow
    
    Talk about a gross oversimplification , which doesn’t address the question which was specifically about that terror nest , Gaza.
    
    Rusty ,if you really want some serious decent indepth background to the whole thing ,look up the Peel Commission , it’s searchable and downloadable. .
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:15pm
    - MCōs
      
      You can’t look at the last 76yrs without looking at how the area arrived at that point
      For that matter you need to look at time immemorial before that too I suppose . . .
      
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      June 20, 2024 5:47pm
JimBobJoe

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/nz-banks-trading-in-government-bonds-sparked-fma-complaint-over-market-manipulation/OWZ76QAY5FGFJEVGXLKEWQQDDM/

Paywalled. But the story is about manipulation of pricing of bonds which impacted the price/yield profile of an issue of 2035 government Bonds.

Quotes from story:

“New Zealand’s financial regulator received complaints last year claiming traders at a major local bank had manipulated the sale of government bonds, costing the taxpayer $33 million, the Herald can reveal.”

“Financial Markets Authority (FMA) would only confirm that the regulator had received complaints and would not comment on whether any investigation took place. “We cannot comment any further on the matter,” the spokesman said.”

“The revelation comes as Australia’s corporate regulator, ASIC, investigates ANZ over concerns its traders manipulated Australian government debt last year following a complaint from the Australian Office of Financial Management.”

Hmmmmm…. only 4 banks on the NZ panel for the debt issue being complained about, again quoting the NZ Herald: “The four banks appointed by Treasury were ANZ’s NZ branch, BNZ, UBS and Westpac NZ. ”

I would have thought all 4 would want this matter cleared up poste haste and publicly to underline their commitment to a fair, rules based NZ Bond market system….

Bottom line: NZ Tax payers may have been gouged by some smart arsed Bond Traders at a major NZ financial institution…. which one, well your guess is as good as mine!
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June 20, 2024 9:03am
- slijmbal
  
  Was looking at banks some years ago and came to the conclusion would never deal with ANZ – they topped the league at ripping off their own customers and being fined i.e. they actually arguably broke the law repeatedly. The Ozzie arm was worse but they had history in NZ as well.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:54am
Chuck Bird

Sports bet Oz Trump $1.62. Biden $3.10 Obama $17.00
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June 20, 2024 9:06am
- RightNow
  
  Gavin Newsom to replace Biden before the election.
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:30am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Newsom $20.00
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:32am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Newsom is IMHO an agent everything that is wrong with America right now. The tide appears to be turning against these types.
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:22pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Should be “an agent OF everything that is wrong with America right now.” 😣
      
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      June 20, 2024 8:54pm
- kevn
  
  Chuck… Where is RFK in the mix?
  
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  June 20, 2024 9:52am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024-5479667
    
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    June 20, 2024 10:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Hillary – $46. That would be worth throwing $10 at.
      
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      June 20, 2024 10:16am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        If I bet it will be on Obama if the odds somehow go up.
        
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        June 20, 2024 11:28am
- Conservatarian
  
  Barry, or Big Mike?
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not Barry – he has had 3 terms now.
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:40pm
    - redeye
      
      And that’s not counting this one.
      
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      June 20, 2024 12:55pm
Chuck Bird

‘Will You Answer The Question?’: Sparks Fly As Jim Jordan Relentlessly Grills CEOs About ESG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5IRurFr8IU
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June 20, 2024 9:18am
- David Garrett
  
  The last speaker – the older woman – was the only one actually trying to answer the question…the other two were laughable.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jim Jordan having fun with idiots!
  I agree with DG, the older woman trying to answer without committing to something.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:25am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

RNC has not allowed to have or train poll workers for 40 years. Why not?
How about the DNC?
Lara Trump Election Announcement. She says the cheaters will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. She is asking for lawyers to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBS–LUIFMU&t=104s
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June 20, 2024 9:57am
- Tom Hunter
  
  RNC has not allowed to have or train poll workers for 40 years. Why not?
  
  Here’s your answer Steve, even though it’s NPR the key news and points are there.
  
  Typical fucking gutless GOP of course. After the usual “voter suppression” screams from the Dems about GOP poll watchers being off-duty cops, the GOP stupidly agreed to a consent degree – which meant they could be found in contempt if they violated it, and of course the Democrats gleefully asked the lower court to keep renewing it, and although that article doesn’t mention it I think it was the same judge who did keep renewing it up until he died, although the GOP finally did get their butts in gear to the Supreme Court in the mid-2000’s (only twenty years late) to get it booted.
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:37pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    2024 is very different now Tom.
    The polls or pollsters say neck and neck.
    Think ‘wheelbarrow’ dumping. Like biggest dumping ever seen.. If I am wrong I will send my personal resignation to Kiwiblog.
    
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    June 20, 2024 5:33pm
imalwaysright

Uk are at 2% inflation.

Any comment from Robertson
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June 20, 2024 9:58am
- Paulus
  
  After the UK election when Labour get well in watch the rate of inflation jump – they say – how high !
  Watch we have all seen Labour UK before but not as left wing as this is.
  Watch the number of new Muslim MPs there will be.
  Many of the major cities are now Muslim Mayors and controlled already.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:44am
  - imalwaysright
    
    P
    Interesting that India have withdrawn their physical gold reserves from London.
    
    They flew 100 tonnes of gold home just over a week ago. They clearly aren’t prepared to trust Labour with actual possession.
    India are the I in BRICS, its looking like the world financial poles are shifting.
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:32am
- Burtland
  
  if the NZRB doesnt get inflation under control real quick, nobody will be able to afford to live here.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:48am
- kowtow
  
  That’s got to be bollocks.
  
  Businesses there are struggling due to the exhorbitant price of energy and have had to up their prices too.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:17pm
Ghost

Need a quick laugh, this lady cracks me up

YouTube

Hmmm, who would hire a lawyer from hooker cockram
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June 20, 2024 10:00am
Swifty

Why is this woman still in her job?

She is a fraud. A disgrace.

Not satisfied with cheerleading one of Labour’s greatest anti-human rights policy, the Fair Pay legislation, and singularly failing to even begin to lambast Labour over their appallingly economically and socially destructive six years in power, she now calls for even more government intervention – in our food system!

(For our Equal Opportunities Commissioner, no less, why she wasn’t taking Labour to task full time for their appalling record in educational disparities alone is something I will never understand. As far as I’m aware she has not uttered a single word about it in her entire time as Commissioner but has banged on about evil business owners (the ones who provide all the jobs) tens and tens of times.)

And, when said interventions drive up the cost of our food, as it inevitably will, she will scream “capitalism has failed” and call for even more government interventions to address it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350315758/nz-very-bad-guaranteeing-right-good-education-fair-income-survey

Oh and what’s this? More calls by her for the state to treat New Zealand business owners as evil doers, racists and misogynists, and force them to do her bidding.

“Sumeo also said pay transparency legislation was urgently needed to require business to report pay gaps and publish initiatives to eliminate pay inequity. She also said adopting the living wage more widely was a “powerful way” to bring more workers out of poverty.”

These state interventions actively harm young, brown and female New Zealanders. The evidence is clear and unequivocal.

Come on National, get rid of her! She’s a menace who clearly hasn’t a clue what she’s talking about. She’s just a mindless lefty policy advocate either ignorant of or careless about the damage her advocacy will cause.
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June 20, 2024 10:14am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  This problem started when National ratified the UN convention on Economic, Social, and Cultural rights. They did that because they were confused about the difference between rights and entitlements, and there is no sign they have recovered from that confusion.
  
  The contents of that convention are not rights and, in many cases, delivering them is not the responsibility of the government at all. What you are complaining about is actually a logical and expected consequence of that.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:31am
  - I remember when
    
    When has New Zealand ever been improved by any United Nations action or suggestion?
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:11am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Good question. Eventually NZ may get a Trump/Milei/Farage type leader who will tell the UN to take a hike, not interested, piss off.
      
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      June 20, 2024 7:28pm
- Paulus
  
  Sounds as though she is as thick as three planks – not even two !
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:46am
Maggie Pie

People are saying we should expect a lot of rich upper-class Poms to exit the UK after the election, and many will look to bring their money down here to invest in housing etc.

A Labour win there can only be good for NZ 😀

Just look at what this idiot had to say…..

“Islam has embraced the LGBTQIP+ community.
My aim is to get Britain to embrace Islam”

– Keir Starmer

https://x.com/TobyMacallister/status/1802646652232049067
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June 20, 2024 10:15am
- imalwaysright
  
  M.p
  Apparently his name in Iran, Farsi, means bell end !
  I thought he looked familiar.
  
  https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/politics/sir-keir-starmers-name-rude-21849294
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:50am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Just looked it up in the ‘Urban Dictionary’
    Says…. (derogatory) tip of a penis, dickhead.
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    June 20, 2024 11:08am
    - imalwaysright
      
      M.p
      
      Ironically , his dad was a toolmaker.
      True.
      
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      June 20, 2024 11:23am
      - Don Beckett
        
        He certainly made one with Keir.
        
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        June 20, 2024 11:46am
- Conservatarian
  
  At this point the Tories’ 14 years has been such a dreadful failure of conservatism. Hate speech laws, infrastructural neglect, a rigged economy, and especially filling up their towns and cities with unassimilatable, unemployable immigrants, even in their “pastoral shires”. They need to be destroyed and rebuilt in a different guise.
  
  Unfortunately, the job of managing the UK branch of Globalists Inc goes from one cutout to another. Starmer has been quite ruthless in purging some of the extremists of the Corbyn era, but UK Labour will entrench “right on” student politics in the UK. No-one should believe it likely that the UK will improve.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:50am
- ds
  
  They don’t want to come to the arse end of the world, Be real.
  
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  June 20, 2024 10:58am
- David Garrett
  
  Un fucking believable…Whole areas of his country are no go areas – even for the police – and there have been numerous murders committed in the name of Allah, and he wants his people to “embrace” them and their vile creed.
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:56pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Let Muslims practice their wonderful beliefs in wonderful Muslim countries.
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:30pm
I remember when

It is now 184 years since the signing of the Treaty.
Why do we still need culturally centred areas in public institutions?
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June 20, 2024 10:52am
- Rusty
  
  @I remember — how about the far North becoming a Maori state like Gaza wants !
  
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  June 20, 2024 11:10am
I remember when

Just so that you don’t get left behind as the ‘science’ progresses.

A new way to talk about heat: NY Times.
“A study published in The Journal of Atmospheric Sciences proposes a new term to measure heat, one that may feel familiar: “stickness.”
Lead author of the study says that this new stickness calculation combines several measurements of humidity and temperature.
The goal is to determine which factor has the bigger influence on a hot day, the temperature measured by a thermometer or the moisture present in the air.
In arid climates, like the Southwest United States, dry heat allows for more perspiration, which helps cool the body.
In more humid climates, like the Southeast, where more moisture crowds into the air particles, it’s harder for sweat to evaporate, which makes it harder to cool off.”
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June 20, 2024 11:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  This just seems to be another way of expressing “apparent ” temperature….. which has been in use for decades… (and completely misunderstood by the
  media)
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_temperature
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:31pm
  - cmm
    
    We used to call it humiture.
    
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    June 20, 2024 12:59pm
- cmm
  
  People regularly confuse heat and temperature.
  
  Heat is energy. Temperature is a secondary effect of heat.
  
  You can heat things up without the temperature and, conversely, you can change the temperature without heating something up. For example:
  * if the pressure changes, then the temperature changes even if the heat does not change.
  * latent heat can add/remote heat without changing the temperature.
  
  A demonstration of the latter would be filling a pot with a mixture of ice and water. It will be at about 0 degrees C.
  Put the pot on the stove and turn on the heat.
  You are now heating the pot up (because you are adding heat to the pot).
  However the temperature will stay the same until the ice has melted. The heat is going into melting the ice – not raising the temperature of the water.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:58pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Bonus
    Happy six year anniversary to Greta Thunberg saying we will all be dead in five years
    
    “A top Climate Scientist is warning that Climate Change will wipe out all humanity unless we stop using Fossil Fuels over the next five years”
    Greta Thunberg
    6/21/18
    
    There was some moron on here the other day talking about the world “overheating” unless we stop driving ICE cars.
    You can only gaze in awe at such dumbness.
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:26pm
    - David Garrett
      
      All on: It is now 13 years since my political career imploded. I used to obtain much amusement from speeches by Kennedy Graham of the Greens – one of the saner ones, the gist if which was that if this or that wasn’t done by next Thursday (then I mean) dire and irreversible things would definitely occur forthwith.
      
      They also always banged on smugly about “peak oil” having already been reached. 14 years later the world is still awash in oil, and the US has become a net exporter of that marvelous fluid for the first time since the 1950’s.
      
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      June 20, 2024 2:05pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Global oil consumption is going UP
        ‘We forecast that global consumption of liquid fuels will increase by 1.1 million b/d in 2024 and 1.5 million b/d in 2025. Most of the expected growth is from non-OECD countries, which increase their liquid fuels consumption by 1.1 million b/d in 2024 and 1.3 million b/d in 2025. The growth in non-OECD consumption is led by China and India, which we expect will increase consumption by a combined 0.6 million b/d in 2024 and 0.7 million b/d in 2025. In addition, we expect an increase in liquid fuels consumption from non-OECD Asia because of increased bunker fuel demand driven by Red Sea disruptions and longer shipping routes for tankers. We expect increases related to bunker fuels will contribute around 10% of total oil consumption growth in 2024. In OECD countries, liquid fuels consumption stays relatively flat in 2024 and increases by 0.3 million b/d in 2025’
        https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php
        ‘It bears noting here that the ongoing strong demand for crude is accompanied by similar strong demand growth for natural gas, coal, and even wood in the energy sector. Given that all those forms of carbon-intensive fuels saw record or near-record demand in 2023, they’re all likely to set new records for 2024 and probably 2025, too.
        In other words, the human race is using more carbon-intensive fuels than it ever has before, and is set to use more and more going forward. The vaunted “energy transition” is simply not happening.’
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/14/oil-coal-gas-demand-forecasts-net-zero-dead/
        
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        June 20, 2024 2:49pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Net Zero tards in the west are simply and literally on a path to economic suicide. Meanwhile developing countries’ emissions will swamp any Co2 savings made by the west until at least 2050. Oh, and there is not the slightest bit of evidence that humans are causing a “climate crisis”. At some point the public are going to revolt in the west.
        
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        June 20, 2024 9:03pm
Benedict Yu

“The group said the pair were demanding that the incoming UK government commit to working with other governments to end the use of oil, gas and coal by 2030.

“Continuing to burn coal, oil and gas will result in the death of millions,” a Just Stop Oil spokesperson said in a statement.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-19/climate-protesters-spray-orange-powder-paint-over-stonehenge/104000050

Ending the use of oil, coal and gas by 2030 would, literally, end civilisation and cause the death of billions of people.
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June 20, 2024 11:10am
- alloytoo
  
  Frankly these people should flogged for their abuse of our cultural heritage.
  
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  June 20, 2024 11:58am
Hugh Jarse

So would Robertson and Orr call this a “technical” recovery ?
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June 20, 2024 11:21am
- Jethrod
  
  Neither would have done anything approaching technical. Technical to my mind means at least raising a sweat.
  Now Steve Otto (North Shore) knows about raising a sweat!
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

New.
Secret recording reveals Roger Stone’s plan to help Trump challenge 2024 election results.
“At least this time when they do it, you have a lawyer and a judge — his home phone number standing by — so you can stop it,” Stone says on the recording.
The voter fraud must be stopped.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/secret-recording-reveals-roger-stone-s-plan-to-help-trump-challenge-2024-election-results/ar-BB1owmJW?
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June 20, 2024 12:06pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Roger Stone should stay out of it.
  Trump could do with better help than dear Roger could give.
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:28pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Agreed. Roger Stone is just going to take you with him to jail.
    
    Must be an interesting time having Roger Stone and the Christian right in the same camp … Roger must have ticked off all 7 of the original sins in record time.
    
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    June 20, 2024 5:24pm
Maggie Pie

WOW!!
The enitre top of the NI is without power due to what has been described as a….. ‘weather event’

Our friends that have a holiday home up that way, were saying their caretaker told them one of those yuge Pylon things that carry wires the length of the country has actually FALLEN OVER!

My first thort it was probably due to Transpowers DEI hiring policy for maintenace personnel.
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June 20, 2024 12:44pm
- cmm
  
  Maybe the DEI engineering policy?
  Using limp constuctions of spaghetti that identify as power pylons.
  
  Same deal as the potholes. We’re now using eco-friendly water soluble muck (probably recycles sawdust and Marmite) instead of bitumen hot mix and wondering why it’s gone after a new drops of rain.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:50pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    People on ‘X’ are saying it’s 6 years of stalinist sabotage by the Ardern regime.
    Our friends are mighty p*ssed off. They were due to head up to Russell for Matariki the moment Brenderwyn opened. Now of course they’ll likely lose eveything in their freezers. Their caretaker has been trying to get his hands on a diesel genny but can’t find one for luv nor money 🙁
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:17pm
    - MCōs
      
      If it wasn’t for the ‘Ardern regime’ there wouldn’t be a Matariki holiday.
      
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      June 20, 2024 2:11pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        As someone on Te Platform today pointed out, people (loony left brainwashed non-Maori) like the Ardern Regime are suffering from confected white guilt and (loony left) saviour complex.
        
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        June 20, 2024 7:37pm
  - kevn
    
    cmm… You will have noticed a ring of stones and pebbles around recently ‘repaired’ potholes after moderate rain. The goo just pumps out in the rain.
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:19pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Harbingers of South Africa’s power experience perhaps?
    
    Ok, I’m being a bit harsh for we’re a long way from that disaster. All the same….????
    
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    June 20, 2024 2:25pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  A tower carrying the high voltage power cables has fallen near Kumeu.
  
  We are running our small electronics manufacturing factory off a 3kw AC sine wave Inverter connected to a Nissan LEAF EV.
  
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  June 20, 2024 12:56pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    How much did the 3kw AC sine wave Inverter cost you? Would a lead-acid forklift battery be cheaper than a virtue signalling EV?
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:39pm
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      The lead acid battery is a bit cheaper than an EV but the lead acid battery refuses to drive me to work and back.
      
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      June 21, 2024 4:53am
- Ghost
  
  That’s terrible, what about all the cannabis plants grown indoors up there this time of year not getting their heating and light. Going to hit the local economy hard….
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:22pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Be like the return to times of pre-colonisation.
    Maori families will be right in their element 😎
    
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    June 20, 2024 1:52pm
    - MCōs
      
      From my observation when I worked at Twizel on some power generation schemes down there it was Maori doing the grunt work so that the people could have an uninterrupted supply of electricity
      No to mention a flash new rowing course and of course Twizel itself
      
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      June 20, 2024 7:05pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    They are probably well prepared for any eventuality!
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:42pm
- PurplePen
  
  Could be a northland maori taniwha mischievous behaviour, or just annoyed with northland maori for some reason. I’m being provocative of course.
  
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  June 20, 2024 4:24pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    A latter day Hone Heke
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:04pm
Bobba Fret

This pretty much sums up much of what is wrong with the legal / justice system.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350317186/auckland-cop-leaves-police-force-after-hitting-high-ranking-gang-member-head
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June 20, 2024 1:47pm
- Don Beckett
  
  He’s probably taken off to Oz where he will double his income.
  
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  June 20, 2024 4:15pm
Matt Long

Transpower, so yeah, a pylon fell over, happens all the time. Fortunately we have a backup line. The backup line’s down for routine maintenance happens all the time.
Only took us two and half hours to let people know, call back at three and we can let you know to call back at five for an update.
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- Ghost
  
  They released their first statement 50 minutes after the power cut. Takes time for someone to get out and see what the issue is.
  
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  June 20, 2024 1:58pm
  - wsk12345
    
    They usually try an auto recluse and if that fails, indicating a more significant issue, someone has to drive out.
    
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    June 20, 2024 2:13pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Pleased you got early information Ghost, Northpower only told us there was a problem with the feeder line into Maugatapere.
    This is interesting ” He said there had been people working on the pylon around the time it fell and “thankfully none of [the] livestock were in danger”.
    
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    June 20, 2024 3:21pm
    - Matt Long
      
      North power’s current update “This is due to an issue with a Transpower tower and they are working hard on the fix.
      
      We will update you once Transpower advises their restoration plans. Our next update will be at 3pm.”
      3pm Friday?
      
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      June 20, 2024 3:24pm
    - Ghost
      
      Don’t live there, but I can see from the stuff articles they released a statement to the media, in their website and on Facebook within the hour. I can also see from Northpower‘s Facebook page they put a post up 4 hours ago.
      
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      June 20, 2024 3:26pm
  - MCōs
    
    My son lives at Whangarei
    He told me their power was back on at 2pm
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:07pm
    - Matt Long
      
      Our power came on at four, fortunately before we got the industrial generator set up, but just after we set up the domestic ones.
      
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      June 20, 2024 7:41pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Here’s another view of that fallen over Pylon.
  
  Tell me if I’m right or wrong…..
  
  https://x.com/Infideliter2022/status/1803601556732096788
  
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  June 20, 2024 2:19pm
  - PurplePen
    
    Oops!
    
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    June 20, 2024 4:26pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Exactly! What sort of idiot would install it on a slope?
      
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      June 20, 2024 5:48pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/health-nz-denies-nursing-graduate-hiring-freeze-following-outcry-from-union-and-nurses/LHAABIK3ZJG7ROVC3QJGY3BZTM/

It’s a bad situation, DHB’s have been replacing local nurses with foreign nurses (usually from 3rd world countries) , and now they are telling local graduate nurses that they can’t work in the hospitals.

So there are all these foreign trained nurses who are displacing New Zealand trained nurses. The hospitals are still very much understaffed, yet the National government are freezing staff numbers.

This isn’t what national promised.
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- Ghost
  
  No they are not telling them that.
  
  Health Minister Dr Shane Reti today said this is not the case.
  
  “Health NZ has assured me there is no pause on the recruitment of graduate nurses: the graduate process is still underway, applicants have expressed their preferences and matching is happening across the sector,” he said in a statement to the Herald.
  
  Reti also said there is misinformation circulating about the decision.
  
  “It will be causing unwarranted anxiety and concern for our hardworking nursing students. I want them to know that we value their work and Health NZ will continue to support graduate nurses into the right jobs,” he said in a social media post.
  
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  June 20, 2024 2:26pm
  - Ghost
    
    And here is a statement directly from health nz
    
    There is no pause on the recruitment of graduate nurses by Health New Zealand.
    Any statements saying otherwise are incorrect. The graduate process is still underway, applicants have expressed their preferences and matching is happening across the sector.
    
    We are continuing to employ graduate nurses, focusing on the areas where we have vacancies.
    
    Aside from working for Health NZ, graduate nurses may also be employed in primary/community care, aged residential care or public health roles.
    
    https://www.facebook.com/HealthNewZealand/
    
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    June 20, 2024 2:34pm
  - kevn
    
    Ghost… Could it be that the union is trying to stir the nurses up? Anti Reti/govt stance?
    
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    June 20, 2024 2:55pm
    - rockape
      
      DHBs have to limit the number of graduate nurses they employ. They need supervision for the first year and that is a load on the experienced nursing staff. Getting experienced nurses from overseas doesn’t carry that load. In my local Ed there are nurses from the UK, USA, Switzerland, Germany, Australia, Philippines, India and all are “ foreign trained “ I wonder if it’s skin colour more than the foreign trained element that is important to some !
      
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      June 20, 2024 3:06pm
      - rjay
        
        DHBs ceased to exist two years ago. Probably not recruiting anyone.
        
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        June 20, 2024 4:05pm
      - rockape
        
        To Ray. Labour may have wanted that but in reality they spent billions and nothing changed, except to the worste.
        
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        June 20, 2024 7:16pm
    - Jack5
      
      Or… is the health system some sort of secret freeze or semi-freeze on new hiring to meet Government requirements on costs?
      
      Could it be that savings must be made elsewhere
      to meet costs of a a dual-health system based on ethnicity, and cost for new health spending such as on counselling campaigns?
      
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      June 20, 2024 4:07pm
- rockape
  
  My wife is a foreign trained nurse. She has 30 years experience in ED, trains on behalf of NZNO, is a nurse Practicioner so works effectively with the. Same independence as a Doctor. What exactly is your problem with. Foreign trained nurses ?
  
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  June 20, 2024 3:00pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Reti pointed last week to the fact NZ has more staff working in hospitals now than ever before
  
  I got my hip done last week, their weee foreign nurses and foreign physiotherapists, they were no worse than the NZ ones, I find it very hard to believe anything the media says, let alone getting more nurses which they have been trying to get done for some time
  
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  June 20, 2024 5:18pm
  - Ghost
    
    How are you doing?
    
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    June 20, 2024 5:21pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350317186/auckland-cop-leaves-police-force-after-hitting-high-ranking-gang-member-head
Sorry if someone else on this blog has responded to this, but to my mind the cop needs a medal and the gang member needs oblivion.
The cop was probably contacted by the Australian police to come over and help them !
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- cmm
  
  Quite.
  
  Scum gang member taunts a cop and finally gets a reaction. Cop gets fired.
  
  Gangs win again. We lose again.
  
  I hope for this cop’s sake he finds employment somewhere where he is appreciated.
  
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  June 20, 2024 3:46pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Australia – at twice the money and no cultural bullshit.
    
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    June 20, 2024 4:21pm
Jack5

Invercargill Mayor Nobby Clark, former sailor and Vietnam War veteran, is again in danger of losing his scalp to the Woke and other offendees.

They’re after Clark, and he will be asked to resign.

He was back on deck too soon after open-heart surgery apparently upset people with remarks he made at a firefighters’ dinner. This followed an earlier incident in an interview with a TV comedian.

Compared with some characters who have been mayor or councillors of the southernmost English-speaking city, Clark is a choir boy. I’m thinking of Joseph Hatch, in 1877-88, who ran mass live boiling down of Antarctic penguins for lubrication oil and was in a controversial gas-plant deal in 1878. I’m thinking also of Abraham Wachner, the Jewish World War 1 veteran who was a popular but unconventional mayor and citizen in the 1940s.

Someone-else may know what Clark actually said in front of the fire fighters.

Gore’s controversial young mayor, Ben Bell, elected at age 23, says Clark has apologised to him for remarks about Bell. Bell says words were about his youth.

“I wholeheartedly object to anyone being disparaged based on their perceived youth,” Bell was reported by the “Southland Times” as saying.

Leading the attack on Clark from within the Invercargill council seem to be councillors Ian Pottinger and Ria Bond.

Bond, an Invercargill hairdresser, and a former NZ First list MP, stood against Clark at the last mayoral election. Clark was elected with 7,357 votes. Bond got 610 votes.

Pottinger and and Bond signed the earlier complaint which arose from the TV interview with the comedian. The use of the “N word” seems to be the core of this complaint.

However, the complainants also alleged Clark on TV “flaunted a copy of the book Twisting the Treaty.

If they force Clark out for these incidents, Invercargill should promote itself as NZ’s capital of Woke-ism.

You can read about the TV complaint here:

https://southlandtribune.substack.com/p/details-of-councillors-conduct-complaint
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- Jack5
  
  The Southland Business Chamber, presumably the organisation previously called the region’s Chamber of Commerce, has climbed on the wagon to oust Clark.
  
  They put up with the Leftist Tim Shadbolt as Mayor for years and years.
  
  Was there one peep out of the Chamber when it was clear Shadbolt’s mental condition had faded?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350317781/southland-business-chamber-joins-call-nobby-clark-resign
  
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  June 20, 2024 7:19pm
  - MCōs
    
    Mayor Clark certainly sounds like he made some unfortunate remarks
    https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350315847/invercargill-mayor-mocks-degrades-and-offends-firefighters-blames-brain-fade
    
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    June 20, 2024 9:21pm
Maggie Pie

Anyone thinking of blowing 60k on a ‘BYD Atto 3’ should read this 🙁

https://x.com/newscomauHQ/status/1803628850322243894

As one commenter so eloquently replied… “More chinese dogsh*t”
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June 20, 2024 3:49pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I love the names of the owners. “Mr and Mrs Cool”.
  
  If I was going to buy an EV, I would have no hesitation in buying one of these. Basing your decisions on one experience of one owner is stupid. In this case the customer service sucked. Surprise. All Chinese customer service sucks. But all dealership service sucks. They all despise warranty work.
  
  Anyway they got a new battery and will likely get years of happy motoring.
  
  I have news for you. In 2050 the only cars will be Chinese EVs. 😂
  
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  June 20, 2024 4:04pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP! Their name got me as well….
    might even book under that in future at places where we’re not known 😀
    
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    June 20, 2024 4:42pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    2050 is a long way out. A lot can happen between now and then.
    
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    June 20, 2024 7:49pm
Jack5

Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway has been selling down its stake in BYD.

The great American investor, inspired by Buffett’s top investment pal, Charlie Munger, plunged heavily into BYD when it was struggling to get rolling.

Munger regarded BYD founder Wang Chuanfu as a rising great industrialist, and Berkshire has made great profit from its shares in BYD.

BYD has passed Tesla as the world’s biggest electric-vehicle maker.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/18/cars/berkshire-hathaway-byd-china-ev-tensions-intl-hnk/index.html
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Maggie Pie

RE UPDATE

First Home Buyers in Wellington should not despair.
There are still bargains out there under that ‘majik million’….

https://oneroof.co.nz/wellington/tawa/17-romney-square/NXt9o
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June 20, 2024 5:27pm
- kevn
  
  Maggie… Handymans dream eh?
  Exciting for the neighbours. They will get sick of the chainsaws and machinery tho.
  I wonder how long ago someone lived/existed there? Looking at the little chook run/dog kennel, maybe 10 years? Must be a good back story.
  
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  June 20, 2024 5:52pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Maybe milkey could upgrade from the Bedsit?
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    June 20, 2024 6:45pm
Red

Memories of Yesteryear in Godzone…..‘Food from the gods:.Bayelsa residents feast on whale swept onshore.
Residents met the stranded whale on Wednesday morning and trooped out with machetes, hawk shaws and axes to butcher the fish, which appeared dead. The whale measured about 15 meters long, five meters wide and three meters high

Hundreds of youths in the area and neighbouring communities of Twon-Brass, Odioma, Fish town and Sangana were seen with implements and different containers to butcher the sea mammal.

Some community chiefs and elders look on from the shore, expressing delight that it was food from the gods of the land who had seen their present suffering, especially with soaring prices of meat and other food items.
https://guardian.ng/food-from-the-gods-bayelsa-residents-feast-on-whale-swept-onshore/
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