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pdm

A balmy Hastings day today – 17 degrees already.

Projected high of 22 degrees.
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June 10, 2024 8:12am
- MCōs
  
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  That’s nice, but who wants to live in a cemetery?
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:43am
  - wsk12345
    
    This from the guy who lives in South Auckland?
    
    I suspect that a poll on kiwiblog – and probably of NZ more generally- would put Hastings well above that.
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:54am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Global warming – it’s a drag, eh!
  
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  June 10, 2024 7:33pm
Matt Long

There seems to be a history of innocent civilians,, including woman, being persecuted and murdered by security forces for hosting people for political reasons.
Perhaps it’s a part of the Jewish conspiracy. You know, Rothschilds, Protocols of the Elders of Zion…
https://www.thelocal.de/20170905/10-things-you-ought-to-know-about-the-raf-terrorist-organization-baader-meinhof
Though the hosts being journalists who contributed to Al Jazeera, that would be a little unusual.
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June 10, 2024 8:12am
- Matt Long
  
  Journalist who forced Israeli hostage to do domestic labour, was also spokesman for Hamas Ministry of Labour.
  https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1799677519605739793
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:44am
Grunter

Biden continues to stammer, mumble, bumble and trip…..

So who will the Dems appoint as their candidate come August?

I speculate Hilary with Obama as VP
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June 10, 2024 8:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I have been saying “Hillary” for a long time. She would be the Dems last chance against Trump. Obama the puppeteer as VP? well there is no way he could pull Hillary’s strings.
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:02am
  - James Stephenson
    
    It seems reasonably clear that Gavin Newsome is running something of a low-key campaign in the background.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:15am
    - RoboRob
      
      Agree. Why run the incredibly un popular Hillary who has also previously failed against Trump. Newsome, while slimey, would be a real contrast to Trump. Certainly on an age basis.
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:43am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Hillary knows how to cheat.
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:40am
      - RoboRob
        
        @Steve
        
        All the Dems do 🙂
        
        To be fair I think a goodly number of the Reps do to.
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:44am
      - Colville
        
        Steve.
        IMHO Hillary would be the person Trump would beat with ease.
        Anyone the Dems could standup that could take a moderate/centerist/safe hands stance would beat him comfortably.
        As always..its the center that decides elections.
        
        and of course the problem for the Dems is they dont have that person.
        
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        June 10, 2024 11:38am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Rob, the Republican cheats would be the RINOs.
        
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        June 10, 2024 11:53am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It so sure, Newsome has violated California, that very attitude is what has lost Biden a heap of support, people are moving to progress in the states, many states has Trump leading in states the REP have not won for ages
        
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        June 11, 2024 1:15am
- pdm
  
  Is that Mr Obama (is he eligible) or Mrs Obama?
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:20am
  - Grunter
    
    Mr Obama
    
    It’s not 100% clear if he is allowed to stand for VP – but if there’s a loophole then I reckon he might have a crack.
    
    Gavin Newsome, if he gets the nod, would very likely lose big time to Trump.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:26am
  - RoboRob
    
    Mrs Obama would be a great choice and would thrash Trump (in my opinion). However she says she doesn’t want the job.
    
    That said JA and Chloe both said they didn’t want the job too.
    
    Barry Obama cant run again. That pesky constitution and all.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:45am
    - Grunter
      
      I think it just says you can’t run for President after 2 terms. So maybe VP is open to him??
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:58am
      - RoboRob
        
        I believe the deal is
        
        1. You can only be elected for Pres 2x
        2. You can serve for at most 10yrs
        
        Some theories I have heard
        1. Barry can stand as VP. Biden leaves (in a bag or of his own choice) and Obama gets another 2yrs. During his 2 yrs he selects his replacement.
        2. Barry comes in as VP and runs the govt while Biden is the token President. Some claim Barry is already running policy from out of government.
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:48am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        12th Amendment:
        
        “… But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:58am
      - Grunter
        
        Thanks Nigel – that makes it pretty clear that he can not stand as VP.
        
        IMO, Hilary without Obama is a dead duck. As is Newsome.
        
        I can’t see any other options.
        
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        June 10, 2024 11:19am
      - RoboRob
        
        @Nigel
        
        “… But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”
        
        I dont believe Barry is excluded by that clause. As I mention above, he has 2yrs (of his 10) remaining. He cant run for president, as you can only do that twice, but as he has 2 yrs left he could run as VP.
        
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        June 10, 2024 1:44pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      That Constitution will be changed post 2024.
      
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      June 10, 2024 10:41am
      - RoboRob
        
        As much as many (on both sides) would like that. The ability to add an amendment to the constitution requires overwhelming support. Its highly likely we never see any further amendments in our lifetimes.
        
        The most recent amendment was enacted in 1992 but was initially proposed over 200+ yrs earlier! It deals with congress salaries, so hardly controversial.
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:55am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      What would she know about anything
      
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      June 11, 2024 1:16am
- NothingLeft
  
  Hillary is nearly 76 and bears a lot of negative sentiment. They will prefer a relative unknown with youth and vigour over her – a useful attack vector against elderly Trump when Dems have little else to offer. It’s most likely to be Gruesome, even though he’s fucked up California, he has name recognition.
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:26am
  - Taieri
    
    Hillary is nearly 76
    ———
    
    Still fairly young compared to Joe and Donald.
    And they used to laugh at the Soviet geriatrics…
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:57am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Donald Trump will be 78 on 14th June – 4 days away.
      Let’s have a birthday party rally!
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:57am
Maggie Pie

Anyone else find this pic just a tad disturbing 🙁

People are asking why would certain members of the Green Party find it necessary to exploit those with disabilities, in order to promote their juvenile ‘EAT-THE-RICH’ campaign…..

https://x.com/AppleBear365/status/1799578052302655854
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June 10, 2024 8:19am
- Ehlana
  
  So the Green Party now advocate cannibalism?
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:24am
  - imalwaysright
    
    The Mexican looks like he’s digesting a small child!
    
    Or maybe he’s identified as pregnant.
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:27am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      “Rumours of my pregnancy have been greatly exaggerated”
      
      – MP for Tijuana
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:05am
      - pdm
        
        “Rumours of my pregnancy have been greatly exaggerated”
        
        I love that Tui Beer – yeah right.
        
        `The Mex’.
        
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        June 10, 2024 9:22am
  - alloytoo
    
    Soylent Green is people…..
    
    World according to Harry
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:35am
  - kowtow
    
    On a serious note ; they’re advocating envy and hatred .At a minimum.
    
    Very dangerous people who seem to have a following among the very people they openly despise . Middle class , educated white women ( and some panty waist males) .
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:20am
- 7kiwi11
  
  It would be quite the conundrum if the rich person was also disabled….
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:37am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Well, my parents were always telling me to eat my vegetables….
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:42am
- Swifty
  
  The MP for Tijuana has put on the beef – he needs to cut back on the tacos. 🌮
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:48am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    What do you call a fat Mexican?
    
    Juan Ton 😀 😀 😀
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:01am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Mags, that is beautiful. I have belly laughed!
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:10am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Ah the person who sings juan ton a mirror
      
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      June 10, 2024 5:47pm
      - greybeard
        
        Well, I got it , Ra !
        
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        June 11, 2024 7:04pm
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  Mixed messaging. What is the 5+a day logo doing there? Have I missed something?
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    All fruits?
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:04am
    - kowtow
      
      Fruit and nut cases , the lotta them.
      
      But seriously the Green MP’s are “rich” by any definition on the salaries they extract from us and yes look at how fat the Mex has become on us.
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:39am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Yep. Many would see MPs as being rich.
        
        Could be an own goal there, Riccie.
        
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        June 10, 2024 7:38pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Bit of an own goal if you ask me.
    
    Eating Fruits and Greens and all that…
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:43am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Do disabled people really need to be paraded and used by a political party in this way?
    It’s embarrassing.
    Just more fodder for the cause.
    
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    June 10, 2024 11:42am
- Rich Prick
  
  They certainly have that “look” about them.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:55am
- Ruawai
  
  Disturbing sign promoting cannibalism aside, what did this sign have to do with the protest march against the fast track bill?
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It got their photo in the media.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:06am
    - Biscuit
      
      Steve, and it enabled them to avoid attending to their lowlife fellow Green MPs and their recent deeds…
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:40am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Looks like they are missing Golrizs’ fashion advice.
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:56am
- MCōs
  
  The expression “Eat the Rich” has been around for a long time and is taken from a French Revolution era quote by Jean Jacques Rousseau
  “When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.”
  Previously the same chap had written, some years before the revolution
  “At length I remembered the last resort of a great princess who, when told that the peasants had no bread, replied: “Then let them eat brioches.” “
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:08am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Let them eat bloody cake, I say.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:11am
  - kowtow
    
    He died long time before the French Genocide.
    
    But it looks he’s yet another middle/upper class twat who betrayed hid own class ( philosophically) while living off the largesse of the people he claimed were the problem.
    
    Like so many other middle class traitors .
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:59am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Marx, K. Living off the backs of Engels’ father’s mill workers.
      
      Scum.
      
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      June 10, 2024 7:41pm
- cas
  
  I suppose we pay for them to fly around the country to attend all these protests.
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They aint gonna ride bikes.
    
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    June 10, 2024 12:01pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Look at the male member and they had a youth MP called Luke Orbell and the number that are Gay. It is v high.
  
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  June 10, 2024 10:05am
- Scooter
  
  I think Ricky has eaten enough already by the look of his puku and what’s up with his gammy leg, is he channeling his inner disabled person? Not a good look.
  
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  June 10, 2024 5:23pm
- John Loveridge
  
  Is that the Green caucus? What a rabble.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:14pm
G152

Watching TV yesterday and one of those ‘explanation’ shows came up.
Aussie shearing…….
Worth a look as I used to occupy Number Three stand and do 2-300 a day..
So first thing standard handpieces and standard fan concave combs instead of all that Union gear.
Fair enough
And those shearers do and I quote ‘120 a day tally and some get to a 200 a day tally.’
And if they dont get shorn they suffer from the heat. Honestly that was said
At my age its hard to get the jaw back up off the floor and quell the hysterical laughter….
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June 10, 2024 8:20am
- pdm
  
  G152.
  
  I have not been in a woolshed at shearing time for probably 30 years but I thought most NZ shearers topped 300 a day, these days,
  
  Or do they do shorter hours. than 5am to 5pm?
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:26am
  - Don Beckett
    
    In my youth (school teenager) holidays I used to fleecoe for a shearer who regularly sheared 350 sheep per day – start @ 6.30, breakfast 8 till 8.30, smoko 10 till 10.15, lunch 12 till 12.30, smoko 3 till 3.15, finish the day @ 5 pm. Hard but enjoyable work. The other shearer did around 250 per day, so the sweat was really pouring out. Great years of my youth, learning how to work hard & be self reliant – and earning big money – 20 quid per week back in 1956,57,58.
    
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    June 10, 2024 11:19am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Real money back then Don!!!
      Well done.
      
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      June 10, 2024 5:50pm
  - G152
    
    Yup.
    Although I quit in the early 60s when it was 5am to 5 pm 5 runs now its 7 to 5 and they live at home in many cases
    
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    June 10, 2024 11:26am
Sparrow

It’s so nice to know that some things never change in the UK (sarc). The tossers bible Tatler listed the ESTEEMED wedding guests. Forelock tugging continues. Before you accuse me of reading the tossers bible it was a Google headline.
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June 10, 2024 8:26am
Matt Long

Macron has fallen, does that just leave Trudeau of the young socialist COVID tyrants?
https://x.com/Christian360New/status/1799896805041373497
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June 10, 2024 8:34am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  Trudeau will be next…Canada election next year & Poilievere outpolls him
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:39am
- Benedict Yu
  
  It is an election for Parliament. Macron will be president until 2027 regardless of the result.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:42am
  - Matt Long
    
    Thanks for clarifying.
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:45am
  - pdm
    
    BY – can you be sure of that.
    
    He has called an election for next month.
    
    Bastille Day maybe.
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:52am
    - Biscuit
      
      pdm, Macron wouldn’t have darted put his own butt up for possible rejection … not with a Paris Olympic Games coming up as his legacy!
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:43am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    And he is time barred from another term if I remember correctly.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:15am
    - alwyn.a
      
      They can only serve two consecutive terms. It would seem to allow him to run in 2032 but not 2027.
      That is like Putin when he had Medvedev take a term before Putin came back in 2012.
      Then he changed the Constitution.
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:55am
  - Interested Party
    
    It’s for the European Parliament to be precise. Macron wasn’t on the ticket, although this election is a fairly good barometer of the way the political wind is blowing
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:19am
    - kowtow
      
      Greens performed poorly .
      
      Reality beginning to bite . Power up , crime up , borders meaningless .
      
      Watch the legacy media label any common sense , disruptor pollies as “far right” or “hard right”.
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:46am
    - MCōs
      
      The election that’s just been held was for the European Parliament.
      The election Macron has called is for the French Parliament and will be held on 30 June and 7 July (Ringo’s birthday)
      The talk is Le Pen may conceivable by PM, which gives her a couple of years to butt heads with Macron before she runs for President again.
      Who knows what will happen in France, but one thing’s for sure it ain’t like here.
      
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      June 10, 2024 9:56am
- PeeJay
  
  Long way to go before Macron falls.
  
  He is still President. He’s announced parliamentary elections – his party no longer had a majority anyway and they were using arcane constitutional procedures to legislate without the required majority – there was a strong likelihood this Legislative Assembly election (their parliament) would have to happen anyway.
  
  As President, he doesn’t have to face re-election until 2027. Even then, the way the French presidential voting works it’s unlikely, not impossible but unlikely, that the far-right candidate can win. No candidate usually wins in the first round – what usually happens is the far-right candidate tops the first round or is a very close second to the incumbent (centre-left or centre-right), but in the second round the establishment parties encourage their voters to ‘hold their nose’ and vote for the alternative to the far-right candidate. This usually sees centre-right supporters vote for the socialist, or the socialists vote for the centre-right, all to keep out the far-right candidate – you even see far-left supporters vote strategically to keep the far-right out.
  
  Macron may be wounded but by no means out.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:54am
  - pdm
    
    Thanks for clarifying.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:28am
  - RoboRob
    
    Serious question. Is the other party really ‘far right’?
    
    I know almost nothing of French politics. It is hard to tell though. The media tend to classify any party that isn’t left as ‘far right’.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:51am
    - MCōs
      
      It depends what your definition of any of these labels is
      Plenty of people, for example, called the previous Labour government communist, Marxist, far left (much to the annoyance of the genuine communists and card carrying Marxists)
      That doesn’t leave much room for the Greens.
      
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      June 10, 2024 10:22am
      - leoj
        
        The left-dominated media NEVER use the term “far left”.
        
        From their perspective, anything to their right is “far right” proving, yet again, how “far left” they really are.
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:25am
      - waikatosinger
        
        What “plenty of people” may say in online discussion is quite different what is said in the mainstream media.
        
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        June 10, 2024 11:13am
      - PeeJay
        
        While some people may certainly have labelled the previous government communist, marxist or far left, this is not something that would ever have been reported by media – not even by association.
        
        Furthermore, by any reasonable definition, a lot of Green policies would certainly fall under the far-left banner but again, you never read about the Greens being labelled as a far-left party, Communists or Marxists by the Media.
        
        By contrast, think how quickly Todd Mueller was smeared due to the MAGA cap issue – while it was never claimed he was far right, the media were certainly happy to report the far-right association with the MAGA cap. (Strangely next to nothing on the Hillary campaign button he had).
        
        Don’t get me wrong – Mueller was an imbecile and was totally unsuited to leadership but it highlights the clear inherent bias the media has.
        
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        June 10, 2024 11:23am
      - MCōs
        
        I don’t know how you can say Todd Muller was an imbecile. That’s a bit rough.
        He was clearly unsuited to the position of Leader of the Nats and shouldn’t have listened to those who promoted him to challenge Simon Bridges.
        He said his very brief spell as leader had had a negative impact on his mental health pretty much right from the get go and that sort of talk is a real no-no in NZ politics.
        
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        June 10, 2024 12:02pm
    - kowtow
      
      The Euro trash media are describing just about any party that has concerns about immigration as variously “hard” or “far” right.
      The ludicrous thing is many of these parties have left wing populist policies particularly around an expanded role for the state i things such as health and elderly care .
      
      The labels apply particularly to the newer parties that have emerged in recent years and are not applied to the traditional social democrat or centre right parties.( many of whom are also “anti immigrant” like the Danish social democrats)
      
      Just more shit legacy media lies ,mis/disinformation.
      
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      June 10, 2024 10:27am
    - PeeJay
      
      Perfectly fair question.
      
      Apologies in advance for the length of the reply – I’ve read a lot on the European political scene (political tragic) and the term ‘far-right’ is certainly being thrown around constantly with very little explanation as to the policy platforms these parties hold.
      
      France is actually a good example of this. The current ‘far right’ grouping in France is currently grouped under the label of National Rally (RN). Depending on your viewpoint, the RN is either a somewhat toned-down successor organization to the previous National Front (FN) or just a rebranding exercise – lipstick on a pig (I’d personally say a little from column a little from column b). The current chair is Marine Le Pen and she has certainly attempted to soften the image of the old organisation her father (Jean-Marie Le Pen) built up. She’s certainly been reasonably successful electorally (did pretty well in the 2022 presidential election at 41.45% to Macron on 58.55%) and she will probably run the establishment candidate close in the 2027 presidential election (unlikely to win for reasons noted above and may not even be her standing). Her father’s organisation was certainly far-right and I think few could argue against that (holocaust denial etc). The current organisation, National Rally, would still have some policies that are clearly far-right but also a lot of policies that are fairly reasonable.
      
      You tend to see the same pattern emerging across Europe. The parties that are termed ‘far-right’ all tend to have some rather unsavory characters in their midst and certainly have some policies which would fit the ‘far-right’ tag, but they also have a lot of policies that resonate with a fair chunk of the population, particularly the white working class / lower middle classes who feel left behind with the neo-liberal European project. These folks tend to get labelled as bigots / racists but their feelings of isolation are real – they don’t see mass immigration as great (more pressure on scarce jobs / housing / infrastructure / schools / medical etc) and they don’t have a voice in the mainstream left or right.
      
      Are these parties ‘far-right’? Well they certainly have some policies (and individuals) that would qualify for that label but they also have many policies that are relatively sensible.
      
      What I find illuminating about this is how quickly these parties are slammed by the centre-left, centre-right and the media. You see it in the current reactions to the European Parliament elections. It’s so self-defeating – tell someone often enough that their views are racist and bigoted and don’t be surprised when they vote for a party you label as racist and bigoted!
      
      Apologies for the length of the response!
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:12am
      - RoboRob
        
        No apology needed. Thats a great response, thank you.
        
        One (ish) further question. Is there a right wing party beween macron and RN. What I am sort of asking is, if Macron was Labour, is RN an ACT party with a more center right party in the mix? Or is RN the only real right wing party?
        
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        June 10, 2024 1:51pm
      - Miritu
        
        “Far-right” is just another slur term.
        Proof: you never hear anyone described as “Far-left”
        
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        June 10, 2024 3:24pm
      - PeeJay
        
        @RoboRob – thanks!
        
        In response to your query, in simple terms, the Republican party would be between Macron’s party and the far-right National Rally.
        
        In truth, it’s really difficult one to answer as to what they would look like in NZ context. Just like it can be argued that sometimes National can look like Labour-lite, the French dividing lines can similarly be difficult to define. Quite ironic when you consider that the French are actually the origin for the terms left-wing and right-wing (harks back their revolution Assembly apparently).
        
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        June 10, 2024 3:59pm
- imalwaysright
  
  I like him. He always brings his Granny to the outings.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:11am
  - Biscuit
    
    Vee-shuss, imalwaysright!
    
    I often point out that the love of my life was born the November before my March.
    
    I call her ‘my older woman’…
    
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    June 10, 2024 11:45am
Bridgenag

How certain efforts to make government more representative and accountable have engendered a more diffuse, opaque and pointless tyranny
A fable on the occasion of the European parliamentary elections

https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/how-certain-efforts-to-make-government?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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June 10, 2024 8:34am
Countrygirl

Another dead baby.
I wonder how the investigation in to the death of Baby Ru is going. I read somewhere the mother knew what happened. Is she going to tell the police or continue to keep it a secret?
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June 10, 2024 8:35am
- leoj
  
  When will the far left media advise us of the Te Kuiti baby’s ethnicity?
  
  If European, we would know by now.
  
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  June 10, 2024 10:28am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Lets hope the investigation of this one doesn’t go the same way.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:08am
- NZL Fusion
  
  The count is 58. One is not acceptable. Their family need to step up for the children..
  
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  June 10, 2024 10:03pm
I remember when

How long do we have to wait for claim the Dr Michael Mosley’s death was the result of “Global Warming”?
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June 10, 2024 8:36am
- I remember when
  
  Perhaps the ‘e’ evaporated.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:58am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  More likely..
  mad dogs and Englishmen
  go out in the midday sun.
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:32am
  - mogg
    
    He had a parasol on the street cam.
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:05am
- kowtow
  
  Amazing how much coverage is given to one rich old white guy going missing ,cos he’s a celebrity .
  
  In other medical news that the legacy media barely mention is the amount of money paid by Big Pharma to “celebrity” doctors in the UK who hyped their vaccines ………
  
  Talking of the unstoried missing and the legacy media , the IDF think they’ve found the remains of two IDF soldiers kidnapped and missing in Gaza since 2014.
  How much coverage will they get .
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:51am
- Taieri
  
  How long do we have to wait for claim the Dr Michael Mosley’s death was the result of “Global Warming”?
  ————–
  
  It most certainly was.
  
  At least, if Emeritus Prof John Drummond, a musicologist and academic from (former) Otago University is right.
  
  “We are running out of wriggle room. Without immediate and urgent action a 2°C rise is inevitable, and we may be close to reaching tipping points”
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/what-can-inquiry-climate-change-actually-achieve
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:05am
  - PurplePen
    
    Why on earth are an emiritus music prof’s ramblings about climate change valid? If he wrote about musicology I might take him seriously. But not climate change.
    
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    June 10, 2024 3:21pm
Maggie Pie

For a moment there, I honestly thort I must be the only person in the country
who had never heard of ‘Michael Moseley’.
So I txt all the girls from tennis this morning…. none of them had either.

Just saying.
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June 10, 2024 8:41am
- Benedict Yu
  
  He was widely known. He has been broadcasting on BBC on science and medical issues for nearly 40 years.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:49am
  - Scooter
    
    He was not too good on common sense though by the looks i.e not walking on rough barren terrain in 35+ heat without a phone.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:11am
  - Inandout
    
    BY, and he suffered from diabetes.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:21am
- Scooter
  
  Isn’t the wife’s comment a bit strange that he “almost made it”, like the walk was something to be achieved, in fact it was the most illogical thing he could do. Bizarre.
  
  “In a statement confirming his death, Dr Clare Mosley said: “We’re taking comfort in the fact that he so very nearly made it. He did an incredible climb, took the wrong route and collapsed where he couldn’t be easily seen by the extensive search team.”
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:19am
  - MCōs
    
    Give her a break
    The woman has suddenly lost her husband of 37yrs and probably has every reporter ready to pounce on whatever she says.
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:08am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  They clearly follow a different pathway to health…tennis is very good exercise, or is tennis your euphemism for something else?
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:34am
  - Jethrod
    
    Maybe Maggie Pie can clarify.
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:41am
- PurplePen
  
  You’re not alone .. I’ve never heard of him. Should I be embarrassed by that?
  
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  June 10, 2024 3:22pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Probably only as much as me 😀
    
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    June 10, 2024 4:15pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  No relation of Oswald Mosley
  
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  June 10, 2024 7:56pm
Bridgenag

Sunday Strip: Leaping Wombats
and other fairy stories

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/sunday-strip-leaping-wombats?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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June 10, 2024 8:45am
I remember when

India edge Pakistan in low-scoring nailbiter at T20 World Cup: Reuters.
Are the rest of the teams becoming back to our standard?
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June 10, 2024 8:46am
- MCōs
  
  There have been some poorly prepared pitches at the that New York venue.
  One hundred and nineteen would probably have been a winning score against most of the teams
  Let’s see what happens when they play the US there in a couple of days.
  South Africa were 12-4 there against Holland yesterday
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:33am
- pdm
  
  Wicket sounded very dodgy.
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:33am
redeye

On a positive note;
Congratulations to the Mowbray brothers, Nick and Mat, on becoming New Zealand’s richest.
These guys started making toys in their Dad’s garage and selling them at school. A true self made story.
We should be celebrating them more.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/zuru-owners-top-2024-rich-list-beating-out-magnate-graeme-hart/XPMXI4SBY5CLHJB3IT6ZAJI3WY/
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June 10, 2024 9:00am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Thought the sister was in that Zuru operation as well?
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:18am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Got bought out a while back. All living together in
    the Dotcom mansion probably became too much.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:51am
- NothingLeft
  
  Fantastic Entrepreneurs. Their (farming) parents raised em right.
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:28am
- BeaB
  
  RNZ comments on the story: time for a wealth tax, we need to know how much do rich people give away, the money was made from cheap plastic toys.
  Not one comment congratulating the family on ambition, energy or success.
  What a dismal bubble the RNZ is!
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:46am
- James Stephenson
  
  Celebrating cheap, landfill-bound tat, designed and manufactured in China based on stolen IP?
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:51am
  - kevn
    
    JS… Yes, they have had to strongly protect the IP relating to the toy side.
    But, their housing factory looks to be a real deal.
    https://zuru.tech/homes
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:48am
    - imalwaysright
      
      That is a spectacular product.
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:18am
      - kevn
        
        iam… Indeed, 25 acres of factory. Thinking BiG.
        
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        June 10, 2024 12:00pm
    - Taieri
      
      their housing factory looks to be a real deal.
      ———–
      
      Is it located in NZ?
      
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      June 10, 2024 12:40pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Chyna
        
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        June 10, 2024 4:15pm
      - Colville
        
        Why on earth would it be here?
        Their market is 90% in USA.
        
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        June 10, 2024 5:50pm
Matt Long

The FBDC has decided on a surprisingly responsible course and lowered their propose general rates increase from 16.5 to 5.1%. I hope other councils take note.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/far-norths-proposed-165-rates-rise-cut-to-51-after-council-finds-85m-savings/IH227TUFCFBVVBAGRHM6RIWLTY/
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June 10, 2024 9:06am
- Colville
  
  Napier Council announced a rates increase of circa 40% and hen told us we should be thankful that they managed to prune it back (by incredibly skilled management!) to a mere 24%!!
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:27am
  - RoboRob
    
    This is the game all councils are playing. Determine a rates rise of n% and announce a rates rise of n+++%. Then get people happy that you are only rising by n%. Wow what a good job.
    
    It’s like the coucil project costs announcements in reverse. Announce the project at 1/3rd or 1/4th the actual cost and get sign off. Then slowly annouce blowouts until you get back to the expected cost.
    
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    June 10, 2024 9:57am
    - newview
      
      I don’t know the facts here but suggest Gabrielle
      May have had some input to the large rate rise in Napier don’t you think.
      
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      June 10, 2024 11:57am
      - RoboRob
        
        In talking in general. I dont think Gabrielle had anything to do with the rate rises in Wellington or any South Island council 🙂
        
        I just see a trend where a council comes out and says ‘sorry rates are going to be up 15% next year’, then three months later they say ‘due to our hard work and listening to constituants, we have managed to reduce the increase to 11%.’ At which point people are really happy they dont have a 15% increase.
        
        To me they are playing games. If they had come out and said ‘due to our hard work and listening to constituants, we have managed to keep the rates increase to 11%.’, people would be up in arms.
        
        How many more years can councils keep putting up rates by 2,3 or 4x the current inflation rate?
        
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        June 10, 2024 1:55pm
Maggie Pie

“After six years of Ardern, New Zealand is now deeply in the shit”

– Paul Henry

WATCH as Paul addresses the ACT Conference in Auckland yesterday.
He predicts the country he loves is on a trajectory to 25% unemployment.

https://x.com/NewshubPolitics/status/1799653674807112097

Really miss Paul on telly. Breakfast has never been the same since he left.
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June 10, 2024 9:17am
- MCōs
  
  Did he really say we’re heading for 25% unemployment?
  Did he ask the stand in PM whether the next Governor General would be a New Zealander, who would look and sound like a New Zealander?
  Jolly good fun is Mister H.
  
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  June 10, 2024 2:21pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Paul Henry can’t hold down a job, indulges in repeated embarrassing gaffs, and once fused his mother’s ashes into his boat and wonders why he can’t sell it.
  
  I’m really surprised the ACT Party have gone to him for publicity and endorsement.*
  
  *Not really surprised at all.
  
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  June 10, 2024 6:59pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

See what is happening with illegals in the US?

Some illegals are flying direct from their home Country to their families in the US Interior.

Do those work permits have “Vote Biden” stamped on them?

https://freedomeagledaily.com/realloadednews/biden-administration-cements-illegal-immigrants-hold-in-america-with-equally-illegal-work-permits/?
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June 10, 2024 9:40am
- Inandout
  
  SO, interestingly when Tucker interviewed el Salvador President it was mentioned many illegals in the US wanted to return home because the gangs had been jailed. Also other South American countries are also looking at cracking down hard on gangs; it can be done.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:14am
Yvette

Piers Seed: TAONGA – The ticking time-bomb under the Waitangi Tribunal
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/piers-seed-taonga-the-ticking-time-bomb-under-the-waitangi-tribunal? and Kiwiblog host David Farrar, 7am post

“The current definition [of taonga] differs from the historical definition, noted by Hongi Hika as “property procured by the spear” [one could understand this as war booty or defended property] and is now interpreted to mean a wide range of tangible and intangible possessions, especially items of historical cultural significance.”

1 – What else has the Waitangi Tribunal and its ēlite adherents misinterpreted to compare to their “mystical all-encompassing” definition of taonga?

2 – “property procured by the spear” actually defines tango as somebody else’s treasure, it means “property obtained by violent theft” – like land supposedly stolen by white pioneers?

3 – Does Parliament also need to define taonga?, David Farrar’s questioning headline, implies widening the “principles” already looked at by ACT, in particularly their website, to include taonga.
But I would suggest strongly the term te Ao o Maori also be looked at, and that “Government is secular” be fully re-asserted, to remove any Maori religious world-view from legislation and any Parliamentary behaviour and considerations as well – as Christianity, Islam and any other religion does not appear in general legislation
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June 10, 2024 9:50am
BeaB

I’m not sure how to feel about the Broadcasting Standards authority telling us the political editor of our state TV channel is not required to meet the usual standards of accuracy in her reports.
Maiki Sherman doesn’t seem to have any particular knowledge or acumen and she clearly doesn’t need any if she can say what she likes without regard to accuracy.
In fact we could have any old reporter spouting off while we go and make a cup of tea or check what’s on Netflix.
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June 10, 2024 9:51am
- Ghost
  
  Was her report inaccurate? I thought the complaints were people didn’t like her delivery?
  
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  June 10, 2024 9:56am
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    I was commenting on the BSA saying accuracy was not required in the political editor’s reports.
    That said, I thought her comments were over-egged and over-excited.
    
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    June 10, 2024 10:05am
    - Blog-aholic
      
      Yes she took her bias out like a new handbag and showed it to everyone….trouble is we all now know she has that old handbag and she LOVES it!
      
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      June 10, 2024 10:22am
    - Ghost
      
      Do you have a link to the broadcasting authority’s decision?
      
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      June 10, 2024 10:27am
      - Ghost
        
        Never mind, found it, this ruling is about earlier complaints in February, not the latest one. I think sometimes people are too precious. The poll results delivered are accurate. If she wants to show her colours by hyping up her delivery of it then turn her off. Sorry but if you watch tv news you have to realise in nz the tv news is more about the presenter than what they are presenting, has been for a long time. So if you watch it you should be expecting their hype. I can’t remember the last time I even bothered with tv news.
        
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        June 10, 2024 10:39am
      - MCōs
        
        “I can’t remember the last time I even bothered with TV news, but now I’m an expert”
        
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        June 10, 2024 12:32pm
      - Ghost
        
        It’s pretty obvious that the news remains more about the presenter than the item they’re delivering, that’s obvious when looking at videos of what people talk about here, and obvious in the prime ministers stand ups.
        
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        June 10, 2024 12:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Let’s have a re-education camp via Zoom to the Town Hall.
“re-education camps” for the country to “put it all together again” after “we’ve gone through this MAGA nightmare.”
Democrats are desperate and crazy. They want Trump supporters to go through this “re-education.”

https://pjnewsletter.com/democrat-makes-unthinkable/?
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June 10, 2024 9:53am
cmm

Almost 8 months since Baby Ru was murdered and the cops seem to still be dragging the chain.

This really doesn’t boost confidence in their abilities to respond when needed.
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June 10, 2024 10:04am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Maybe it’s more that the offenders are able to hide behind their various rights enshrined in legislation than an ability of Police to extract sufficient evidence to justify an arrest and charges. I am not sure that there is any lack of skill or knowledge or intent on the part of the Police to charge if they could.
  
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  June 10, 2024 10:52am
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    Certainly, but it doesn’t give you much confidence.
    
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    June 10, 2024 11:40am
- imalwaysright
  
  Apparently a mother can be sentenced to as little as 3 years for infanticide.
  There are property crimes that carry longer sentences.
  Are the cops giving infanticide a lower priority because of this?
  I don’t think so, but we live in a crazy country.
  Murderers out on bail, 35 rapists on home detention, crack an old ladys skull and no jail time…
  Maybe I’m right.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:39am
- I remember when
  
  They would have fallen out of a high-rise window by now if were in Russia.
  
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  June 10, 2024 1:51pm
Hugh Jarse

Despite the criminal friendly approach of the Parole Board and with all the information at their finger tips, they continue to find Scott Watson too dangerous to release on parole. They clearly don’t see Watson as the fitted up innocent that some others do.
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June 10, 2024 10:06am
- Damocles11
  
  Occam’s razor.
  
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  June 10, 2024 10:54am
- MCōs
  
  Scott Watson was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life
  There is a problem stemming from his refusal to accept the verdict of the court. Otherwise he could have been out years ago.
  So, what’s a bloke supposed to do?
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/123694269/parole-board-asks-for-urgency-over-scott-watson
  
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  June 10, 2024 12:53pm
  - Damocles11
    
    It’s pretty obvious.
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:02pm
  - Unity
    
    Why on earth would he admit to a murder he didn’t commit?! This case shows how pathetic and corrupt the Police and our so-called ‘Justice’ system are. I wouldn’t want to come to the notice of the Police for something I didn’t do. I wouldn’t trust the system one iota. Watson is very obviously innocent. How it ever went to trial in the first place is quite beyond me. He didn’t resemble one iota the identikit pic that was made from information given by those in his vicinity that night and his boat didn’t resemble one iota the boat the witnesses saw Ben and Olivia being dropped off on. So, wrong man, wrong boat. Full stop. The rest is a great big miscarriage of justice and shames our country. It needs to be admitted that his conviction was totally wrong. Imagine if it was your son being stitched up like he’s been. Words fail me!!
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:04pm
    - I remember when
      
      “Watson is very obviously innocent.”
      
      While I am a long way from certain about that, I do agree that the case lacked the definite evidence it should have had before going to trial.
      
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      June 10, 2024 2:01pm
      - MCōs
        
        It’s not up to the parole board to determine the fairness of the trial
        If they said those thought he was innocent they’d lose their job.
        There are other avenues the defence can take the case and probably has – I can’t remember
        
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        June 10, 2024 2:31pm
Cassandra

Sir Ta Masn Durie: “A Taumata Board (meaning an overarching Maori body) could provide direction and management, and seek funding from iwi, kaupapa Māori organisations, the World Health Organisation, the United Nations Indigenous Committee, and the private sector. And also, perhaps, from the New Zealand Government.” Note the perhaps funded by the NZ Government. It’d be the first thing this pack of bludgers did, pressure the Gummint to pay for it. The Labour Party would of course agree. ACT and NZF would stop National even thinking about it.
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June 10, 2024 10:35am
Chuck Bird

Biden shitting his pants

Sky News host slams Joe Biden for trying to sit on chair which was not there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_s3ttwg810
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June 10, 2024 10:45am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  No he isn’t, the full footage shows him settling into the chair behind him. As much as I think he is a doddery old fool, this is despicable editing.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:04am
  - All_on_Red
    
    I’m not fan of the Corrupt Biden but you’re right about that.
    Now this guy, wow. Jerry ‘The Wadler’ Nadler, sure looks like something happened.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTWNSh29h9I
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:18pm
    - Vory v zakone
      
      Authentic Attenborough narration? 😜
      
      https://x.com/TaraBull808/status/1799251406173700354?t=xVMqEYsgJnWquAhx1sif_Q&s=19
      
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      June 10, 2024 7:21pm
- Inandout
  
  CB, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he probably didn’t know where he was.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:18am
Chuck Bird

A deserving family.

<b<Connor needs life saving treatment in Melbourne

https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/connor-needs-life-saving-treatment-in-melbourne
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June 10, 2024 10:49am
Ian

Another topic. Anyone else think the bowel cancer test ads on TV aimed at Pasifika people are childish, condescending and cartoonish. It’s almost as though aimed at the absolute lowest common denominator. Bang for buck in that Pasifika people nearly all seem to attend church, would be to make a church donation for the minister to make an appeal to the congregation to get their tests done. No other ethnicity has ads of such low calibre aimed at them….
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June 10, 2024 11:01am
- Damocles11
  
  They tap into Pacific Island humour, which is very big and boisterous and cheeky. Just an attempt to reach a certain demographic. I can understand why they’ve done it.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:40am
- imalwaysright
  
  Ian
  Agreed
  
  Its inherent racism born of ignorance.
  Similar attitudes:
  “All fat people are jolly”
  
  “Maoris can’t think for themselves so i’ll get a chin tat and save them from having to read long words”
  
  Wankerism at work.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:48am
- kowtow
  
  Have you not noticed how the ad industry portrays white males .
  
  As idiots .
  
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  June 10, 2024 3:49pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Unfortunately many of them are. Not many men left in NZ
    
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    June 10, 2024 4:18pm
- BeaB
  
  Too many ads with overweight Polynesian men being stupid or childish or just plain dumb. It surprises me no-one ever complains. It’s hard to think of any ad aimed at Māori or Pacific Islanders that shows them in a mature, dignified light.
  We’ve made some progress with the portrayal of women in ads.
  
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  June 10, 2024 3:59pm
Damocles11

‘RNZ has named a new co-host to sit alongside Susie Ferguson for its Saturday Morning show.

Respected television and radio broadcaster and journalist Mihingarangi Forbes will join Ferguson, RNZ announced today.

In a statement, Forbes said: “After many years of current affairs and more recently documentaries focusing on Aotearoa’s history, this is an opportunity to explore new subjects including lighter topics.

“I’m super excited to be part of a new kaupapa and sharing ideas to entice new audiences.”’
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June 10, 2024 11:12am
- Notsofast
  
  Radical grievance activist.
  RNZ twisting the knife.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:36am
- kowtow
  
  ‘entice new audiences’
  
  Bwahahahaha.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:41am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘respected’
    Bwahahahaha
    
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    June 10, 2024 4:32pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  So RNZ decided they needed to get sicker by alienating more of their audience.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:48am
- greybeard
  
  Another nail in the RNZ coffin.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:52am
  - Damocles11
    
    Taxpayers have to keep funding it though, that’s the sickest part of this. 😔
    
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    June 10, 2024 12:56pm
- Aquarius
  
  Well
  The program had become almost impossible to listen to anyway
  Ferguson seemed to think her all too apparent limitations in the English language could be camouflaged by a high use of Te Reo
  Forbes should finish it off
  Pity for those of us who still live in New Zealand
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:55am
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t really think the fate of the nation hinges on whosoever hosts any particular radio programme on RNZ.
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:52pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    No worries, Joanne can help Susie with old te reo
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:06pm
- PurplePen
  
  Ha ha haaa … I’ve never listened to the Saturday program since Susie started. There are a few reasons why, words such as inane and manglish come to mind. Adding yet another to what must be a slowly failing show isn’t going to fix the problem.
  
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  June 10, 2024 3:32pm
Maggie Pie

“WE ARE YOU SINGLE SOURCE OF TRUTH”

O.M.G. here’s a blast from the past – courtesy of Newshub!

https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1799827468779687950

And all the comments are PURE GOLD 😀 😀 😀
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June 10, 2024 11:19am
- Don Beckett
  
  What a horrible woman – a puke-generating scene.
  
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  June 10, 2024 11:43am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, the nagging rumours persist that our ex PM didn’t actually get her covid vaccine. If that is the case she deserves a court appearance where she can swear under her Oath.
  
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  June 10, 2024 1:07pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP… tonnes of people saying that.
    
    https://x.com/GayeStradwick/status/1731898708319436847
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:37pm
  - cmm
    
    Lying comes naturally. Do you really think an oath would mean anything?
    
    Anyway, she would have plausible deniability. If you could actually test he body fluids and detect that she had not been vaxxed, then she’d just shrug her shoulders and say they told her it was vax.
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:56pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      And see where even people in the US are commenting on it as well 🙁
      
      https://x.com/fogmelter/status/1731563526014009361
      
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      June 10, 2024 2:04pm
- John Loveridge
  
  Every now and then I hear that bloody woman’s voice again and I start to feel sick and stressed, like I’ve got a kind of PTSD.
  
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  June 10, 2024 8:07pm
Swifty

Far-left activist appointed to high-profile RNZ Saturday show.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/519124/mihingarangi-forbes-to-co-host-rnz-s-saturday-morning

Not in the least surprised.
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June 10, 2024 11:58am
- Swifty
  
  Honestly, where are the rightie hosts on RNZ?
  
  At best there are a few centrists, the rest, the great majority, are left or extreme left.
  
  So much for diversity and RNZ reflecting the audiences they serve. What a load of horseshit.
  
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  June 10, 2024 1:17pm
  - MCōs
    
    I suppose if you consider Forbes to be a far left activist everybody else on that station must left of centre
    
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    June 10, 2024 3:23pm
    - Swifty
      
      That makes so sense whatsoever MCos.
      
      Forbes is far left and pro-Maori separatism and pro-Maori sovereignty and pro-He Pua Pua etc etc.
      
      Hell, I could even live with that if RNZ had a corresponding number of people who opposed those positions well and vocally.
      
      But do they?
      
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      June 10, 2024 3:38pm
      - MCōs
        
        I’ve heard David Farrar given time to express his views at regular intervals on the panel
        Who else, I don’t know. I’m not a particularly regular listener
        
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        June 10, 2024 4:20pm
      - Swifty
        
        I’m taking about hosts MCos – permanent employees.
        
        Not guests, FFS.
        
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        June 10, 2024 5:04pm
Swifty

Dale Husband disgraces himself with his ignorant, fact-less, incoherent views on many matters including energy supply and oil and gas etc (he seems fine if we get it from overseas and others intervene in their environments but we must not allow anything so base and venal here) but the real kicker is his predetermining of the outcome of any TPM/Manurewa Marae use of data investigation before it has even got underway.

And what’s worse, he doesn’t seem to believe there are even any issues here – mixing up the using of personal data is just the Maori way, apparently. He also labels the Marae staff who have made the assertions as ‘disgruntled employees’ and TPM and others have done absolutely nothing wrong except want to help their people……

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018941994/political-commentators-dale-husband-and-tim-hurdle

Honestly, I had no idea Husband had disappeared so far down the rabbit hole.
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June 10, 2024 12:07pm
Maggie Pie

Math was never my thang at school….. but people are saying Labour paid out 192,000 ‘Clean-Car-Discounts’ of up to 7k per vehicle over the life of the scheme. With 21,000 of them going to Dealers.

How many unfunded life-saving cancer drugs would that have paid for?

Asking for a close friend.
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June 10, 2024 12:16pm
- Swifty
  
  Tax cuts for car dealers!
  
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  June 10, 2024 12:22pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And they’re saying nearly 200 pocketed the subsidies
    and now they want the car yards to pay them back.
    
    Wonder how that’s going?
    
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    June 10, 2024 12:49pm
- cmm
  
  Yeah sure, but are any of those cancer survivors going to get her onto Blackrock’s board in a few years time?
  
  Her virtue signalling, with our money, earned her an honourary doctorate, an honourary teaching position (with real pay) and a dotted line to the top.
  
  When those cancer patients can serve that they might get a look int.
  
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  June 10, 2024 12:27pm
cmm

Kahui twins get another playmate.

Let’s hope this one doesn’t drag on like Baby Ru.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350305082/hysterical-screaming-heard-house-te-kuiti-babys-death
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June 10, 2024 12:32pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  See where the shocked residident described it “as the best street in Te Kuiti”
  
  I’m just looking at the house now…..
  
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  June 10, 2024 12:55pm
  - greybeard
    
    Looks like No.6 Meads St.
    
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    June 10, 2024 1:26pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Don’t know it TBH.
      What will be interesting, is whether any of the occupants had neck tattoos.
      
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      June 10, 2024 1:32pm
    - John Loveridge
      
      You’d be correct, looking at Street View. It’s interesting to compare the state of the house and property in the Street View image, taken 4 years ago, and its state now, going by the image in the story.
      
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      June 10, 2024 7:57pm
- Damocles11
  
  Why does everyone race to the local Mayor for comment? If someone kills a baby a few kilometres away from me then that’s no reflection on me, or the local community.
  
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  June 10, 2024 1:04pm
Swifty

Gays for Palestine! Chickens for KFC! Turkeys for an early Christmas!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13512013/Pakistani-man-tried-set-countrys-gay-club-returning-UK-held-mental-hospital.html

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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June 10, 2024 1:31pm
Damocles11

Now do an article on the Labour MP’s who were doing this….

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‘Kāpiti-based MP rents back his Wellington flat at taxpayers’ expense

A National MP is claiming a $36,400-a-year housing allowance for his own apartment — despite living just 58km from Parliament, writes The Post and Sunday Star-Times National Affairs Editor Andrea Vance.

Ōtaki MP Tim Costley owns a $1.4 million riverside home in Waikanae, two rental properties in Palmerston North, and a Wellington flat. He claims the taxpayer-funded perk for the capital property, where he stays during the weeks Parliament is sitting.

MPs are entitled to claim $36,400 a year if their main residence is “outside the Wellington commuting area.”. But the rules don’t specify a minimum distance.’
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June 10, 2024 1:38pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘just 58km’
  Thats quite the commute…
  Since he has to forgoe the the rent he would normally get its fair he charges for it
  Vance is getting pretty desperate to make this into a beat up.
  
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  June 10, 2024 5:11pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Yep. Most MPs work long hours. Even with Transmission Gully in off peak hours, it’s the thick end of an hour each way.
    
    If Costley were to spin out & crash due to lack of sleep, Vance would be the first to put the boot into him.
    
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    June 10, 2024 8:11pm
cmm

About 8 months into the job (that’s almost a quarter into their term) and we still see some of the most outrageous Labour bumblings are not being addressed.

Sure, many things take time to change (eg. the whole education system). But some things can just be dealt to. Immediately.

The Te Huia train is still running. Why? Sure it has a funded trial period until the end of this month, but with such an obvious, and dismal, failure it should have been killed in the first week of National taking office. There is no need for taxpayers to fund the whole trial.
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June 10, 2024 1:45pm
cmm

Another business likely to close in Hamilton and the cops seem to have their hands tied.

“We know that across the board it is a small cohort of repeat offenders who commit a large proportion of retail crime, and these are usually small, organised groups. As of 23 April 2024, the NRISU has investigated 363 offenders with 2079 charges filed.”

Should be easy then. Lock up these repeat offenders and the crime should reduce immediately.

https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/nz-news/350300506/attempted-robbery-assault-drives-turkish-cafe-out-hamilton
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June 10, 2024 1:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Does this happen to you?
Trump was never President.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJJMUR5HoE8
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June 10, 2024 3:14pm
- Ghost
  
  Hunter got high
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLD1yhxNik
  
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  June 10, 2024 3:23pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Dunno why you haven’t got 30+ upticks Ghost.
    That is so dam good!
    
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    June 10, 2024 5:03pm
Maggie Pie

See where ‘Peak-Hour-Strike-Action’ is to continue tonite, with AOR advising commuters to expect delays in getting home, and saying….. it could continue indefinately until a deal is reached. LOL!!

Paul Henry was right… this city has been completely fooked by Labour.
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June 10, 2024 3:21pm
- MCōs
  
  I always thought you were anti public transport
  You should be pleased
  
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  June 10, 2024 3:27pm
  - Mike
    
    Not when her bus route is affected.
    
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    June 10, 2024 4:12pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      No bus unless it is a Portch bus – and then she’s driving anyway Mike.
      
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      June 10, 2024 5:07pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Milkey spotted taking the early train back to The Hutt …..
        
        https://x.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1083191799374594048
        
        😀 😀 😀
        
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        June 10, 2024 5:26pm
      - Jethrod
        
        I didn’t realize he had such a shine on his head
        
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        June 10, 2024 6:23pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Do you remember Paul Henry calling someone….. “Dikshit” 😀
    
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    June 10, 2024 4:18pm
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      She was Indian and her name was spelt Dikshit and he made fun of it. She was in quite an important position and he got more than egg all over his dial.
      
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      June 10, 2024 4:47pm
    - MCōs
      
      Only because that happened to be the Chief Minister for Delhi’s name, which he mispronounced to cast aspirations on her and the city leading to a diplomatic incident and to his losing his job.
      Seems women just can’t take a joke, eh
      
      Now he’s been called in to prop up Act.
      
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      June 10, 2024 5:11pm
Ghost

Luxon has announced an inquiry into the Te Pāti Māori/marae allegations
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- Ghost
  
  Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has also announced the public service commission will review allegations of misuse of personal data by Te Pāti Māori.
  
  The revelations, which were reported last week, have triggered a high-level meeting of department heads, with four agencies now looking into the matter.
  
  Article
  
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  June 10, 2024 4:33pm
  - Ghost
    
    I wonder who the whinging female reporter is who was packing a sad that the Māori party hadn’t first been advised of the inquiry
    
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    June 10, 2024 4:47pm
    - Ghost
      
      I hope stuff can afford better cameras when they take over the 6pm news…..
      
      https://i.postimg.cc/15LCpwzB/IMG-0024.jpg
      
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      June 10, 2024 4:52pm
Taieri

Are there any limits to incompetence?

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/woman-dies-after-cancer-goes-undiagnosed-five-years
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June 10, 2024 5:28pm
- Ghost
  
  I was told of a case recently. A lady who had been sick for months was diagnosed with cancer. When they went back over her records they found it in a scan several months prior that they had missed.
  
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  June 10, 2024 5:44pm
- cmm
  
  OK, there shouldn’t be, but any system has its flaws.
  
  Sure we could reduce those flaws by a very large % by performing twice as many tests and investigations. But that would be very difficult to achieve with the resources available.
  
  A few years back I had a fracture in my leg that the doctor & radiologist missed on my xray. The orthopedic surgeon who does extra screening phoned me up a few days layer and said he thought I had a fracture and called me in.
  
  It’s a bit like with any risk related activity. We need to find the best risk/cost point. That is not going to be risk free.
  
  For example, we could bring road deaths to zero, overnight, by enacting a bunch of measures. However that would reduce the utility of the roads. For example: we could reduce all road maximum speeds to 20kph, only allow cars newer than 12 months old and require people to redo their driver’s test every 2 years and lock up any drink drivers for 5 years.
  
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  June 10, 2024 7:17pm
cmm

2024, a year for handing out the arse cards….

Macron is the latest to throw a snap election paddy and just on his sword.

Maybe he has some prior warning of things turning to shit in the Olympics next month?
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June 10, 2024 5:52pm
- Ghost
  
  Pretty sure I read a story not long ago of terrorist threats for the olympics
  
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  June 10, 2024 6:07pm
  - kevn
    
    Ghost… Plenty of them living in France.
    
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    June 10, 2024 6:11pm
  - cmm
    
    Undoubtedly there are many threats.
    
    But also quite likely there will be some embarrassments around the running of the Olympics. For example having a whole lot of contestants maybe getting Dehli Belly from swimming in the river.
    
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    June 10, 2024 6:29pm
Ghost

14 year old on bail. Hmmm.

A 14-year-old, who was on bail at the time, has been charged in relation to a ram raid and multiple break ins across South Canterbury over the weekend.

Article
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June 10, 2024 6:36pm
Jack5

GP crisis in the UK, too …

London’s The Telegraph reports an epidemic of suicides and breakdowns among UK medics, with one doctor dying by suicide every three weeks, according to the charity Doctors in Distress. More than 2,000 GPs seek help for anxiety, depression and other mental illnesses every year.

NZ doctors are under heavy pressure. We’re short of GP’s and specialists, and in many fields NZ health employers are finding it difficult, often to the point of near-impossible, to attract overseas doctors to this country.

Hooray for National’s third medical school plan, and hip-hooray for the idea of tying in doctors for NZ service upon graduation. Some will settle and stay in regions where they are most needed.

Generations of politicians have until now let our health system slide into crisis, with mysteries lilke Labour’s missing $1.9 billion for mental health. In one of the worst-hit sectors, mental hospitals are jam-packed and severely short of nurses and psychiatrists.

The Coalition had better deliver on Health. And the answer isn’t some version of “Gumboot Friday” for GPs. It’s supplying more doctors.

The cartel of State-owned news media and the two State-subsidised media chains let the country down by not highlighting the severity of the developing crisis.

The Telegraph report says patient numbers have doubled for some UK doctors, thanks to an increase in the population and a fall in the number of fully qualified GPs. Many talk about working 12- or 14-hour days and because of this fear they are so unable to provide a sufficiently good standard of care.
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- Ghost
  
  The bonding is important. I was at the ED a few months ago. Had a young woman come in and introduce herself as a trainee and would I allow her to examine me, we got to talking. Her plan was to work in NZ for a year then move to Aussie.
  
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