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CJames

I for one am glad to see Spiked has brought back to the forefront the fact that Greenpeace is masterminding a genocidal campaign to kill children in Asia by leading a campaign against Golden Rice.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/06/06/greenpeaces-campaign-against-golden-rice-is-a-crime-against-humanity/
To quote the article “Vitamin A deficiency is the world’s leading preventable cause of childhood blindness. It is widespread in Africa and south-east Asia. Every year, up to 500,000 children go blind due to vitamin A deficiency and half of them die within 12 months of losing their sight. “
But oh no, the “deadly risk” of GMOs means those children have to die. We must maintain the purity of our virtue signallers. So they run a campaign using all the dirty tactics that only neo-nazis are supposed to do. Greenpeace lies and has no compunctions about doing it. They fundraise off their mendacity. They then rely on their science-illiterate EV driving idiots in the leafy suburbs to promote and support their efforts.
Remember this next time you hear Greenpeace’s political wing in the NZ parliament ranting on about Gaza or some cause-de-jour. The organisation is full of murderous humanity-hating hypocrites. Calling them misanthropes is underplaying their nastiness. It is the blood of millions in the third world on their hands and MPs in our Parliament are part of it. Chloe – you are a killer.
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June 7, 2024 8:00am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Thanks for that. I first read about golden rice many years ago. I had no idea that it was still being sabotaged by these people.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:13am
- G152
  
  But its different when the kooks claims are not only wrong but harmful.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:22am
- peterwn
  
  Greenpeace’s charitable status was some years ago on the grounds it was nor a charity, but Greenpeace successfully appealed to the courts to have its charitable status restored. Perhaps it is time for the Government to review the situation.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:34am
- thirteenstars
  
  The crucial thing to learn about the Marxist mentality is that no amount of eggs is too large to break to make the omelette.
  
  They are not “well meaning”. They are not “misguided”. They do not have the excuse of ignorance or of not being warned about the consequences of their actions.
  
  They are possessed of an evil ideology which has existed in many guises down through human history. It infects public education systems and produces suicide squads of zombie-like creatures whose goal is to destroy the civilisation that has given them freedom, abundance and ease.
  
  Orwell in 1984, as told to Winston Smith by an agent of Big Brother:
  
  There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
  
  If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever.
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:49am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Greens have responded to gene-editing technology in much the same way they have to nuclear energy.”
  That means they are rolling around on the floor making stupid noises and having anxiety attacks!
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:59am
- imalwaysright
  
  They don’t like poor people cooking on fire either.
  Racist marxists.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:32am
  - kowtow
    
    There’s a massive problem in the ‘Global South” with indoor cooking . Makes children and young persons really sick and no doubt # women who do all that work. Hundreds of thousands die every year from respiritory illnesses associated there with.
    
    Meanwhile cos no white folk are affected , no one gives a shit .
    
    To save those lives we need to lock down , work from home and spend billions to save ’em.
    
    Additionally we need campus protests and weekly marches together with a BDS campaign to save them, if not blood on our hands!
    
    The Greens can chant ” From the fire to my lungs ,my airwaves will be free”
    
    It’s a small world afterall and we’re all in this together .
    
    Innit.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:02am
  - jkt
    
    Now, that is what I call a subtle dig at the greens.
    
    But when your statistical life expectancy is less than 40 ….. do you really care yourself?
    
    If of 8 billion people there are less than 1 billion who can afford to care about atmospheric CO2 …… who will pay the heftiest price?
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:50pm
CJames

Next time you hear that renewables are cheaper than fossil fuels, ask why do they need to be constanly propped up by subsidies?
https://www.masterresource.org/solar-power-issues/permanent-subsidy-solars-itc-6-extensions/
Offshore wind needs bigger subsidies, warns government adviser | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT (wordpress.com)
Electric car discounts now ‘unsustainable’ amid record price cuts | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT (wordpress.com)
Remember those subsidies are a wealth transfer from the poor to the rich.
If you want the lights only to be on when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing or you want heavily restricted travel, go for it. Otherwise, if you want to live in the First World with a reliable energy and food supply, we need fossil fuels. And that is a fact, not a teeshirt slogan.
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June 7, 2024 8:01am
- Chuck Bird
  
  In the future we will need nuclear.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:14am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    We need it now.
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:23am
    - jkt
      
      Damn right. We already live in the future.
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:52pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  I don’t just want it to be reliable, I want it to be cheap. Oh, I don’t mean cheap quality (like wind and solar), I mean cheap cost.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:50am
- NothingLeft
  
  In Oz now about 1/3rd of houses have rooftop pv, and you can buy long-life battery energy storage systems from China for about US$150/kWh. For most home users in sunny places rooftop pv is now tipping over into being long term cheaper than grid supply.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:24am
  - Flossie
    
    I think you have to pay an “availability charge” even if you’re not using any grid power. They will continue to raise the cost of this.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:00pm
  - CJames
    
    There are two things you didn’t cover in your praise.
    The first is the domestic power is so expensive because of all the subsidies (direct and indirect) to the unreliables.
    The second is the houses need to be grid connected to get the voltage and frequency control, inertia, plus provide the support when it has been dull days in the middle of winter. Have battery support for 5 days suply plus replace batteries every 7 years and solar cells every 10 then see what the economics is like.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:05pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Or you can install a lot of excess pv. A 15-20kW rooftop system produces a couple of kW even on a cloudiest days and have a small petrol genset for emergencies. The components are cheap, (~$10-15k) so it’s economic if you have the inclination/motivation and can do the install yourself (no electrician needed for <50V portions of system I believe).
      
      I think most homes in sunny North Island locations will go off grid over next 1-2 decades. Especially as EV market grows and batteries get ever cheaper.
      
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      June 7, 2024 4:49pm
      - CJames
        
        From your statements and the costs you write, you have no understanding of how things work, nor actual costs. That is why the EV market isn’t growing and battery costs are rising in the real world.
        
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        June 7, 2024 6:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

“Senior officials within the FBI and the Department of Justice might be protecting President Biden.”
Might be? Really?

https://freedomeagledaily.com/theteapartydaily/corruption-at-the-top-fbi-hid-bidens-dealings-with-sons-partners/?
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June 7, 2024 8:02am
- kowtow
  
  Will our legacy te media paahti cover him playing musical chairs at Normandy and Jill whispering instructions to him , or that notorious old geezer shuffle ………
  
  He’s waaaaay past it and that’s why the Dem Machine have put his opposition in court .
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:10am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Normandy. I saw that on the news, biggest audience Joe has ever had!
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:26am
    - jkt
      
      Ageist!
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:58pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And did Pres Biden poop himself on stage during the D-DAY ceremony?
  
  Alex Jones says, “Yes he did!”
  
  Here it is caught on hot mic….
  
  https://x.com/jgalan707/status/1798722075034870214
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:11am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Geez he really knows when too shit him self, he pooped in the popes rooms last time, hahaha
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:19am
    - jkt
      
      Wait until you get to that age. At that age a poop beats kicking Trump’s ass.
      
      The truth broker : Alex Jones. Must be true.
      
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      June 7, 2024 2:00pm
  - Inandout
    
    Maggie, then I heard Joy Behar on the View proclaim she wet herself when she heard Trump was convicted. Incontinence reigns in Dem circles.
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:30am
  - virtualmark
    
    I wouldn’t believe a single word that Alex Jones says. That man is the lowest of the very very low.
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:47pm
- virtualmark
  
  Steve, did you know there’s never been a Democrat at the top of the FBI? Every single FBI director has been a registered Republican. And the current FBI director was appointed by Trump.
  
  Seems to me then that “might be” is doing a *lot* of work in that line you’ve quoted.
  
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  June 7, 2024 12:49pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    FBI concealed fact the Hunter Biden laptop was real and gave free pass to Hillarys myriad classified info crimes, destruction of evidence (emails) that were subpoenaed, and Bidens classified documents theft too. They are deep state – protective of and loyal to the permanent bureaucratic elite class in Washington (and mega-rich donors that support them), currently most closely aligned to Democrat establishment given Trump/Maga ‘drain the swamp’ rhetoric.
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:55pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Nope. The FBI agent testified yesterday, in the Hunter Biden trial, that they could not guarantee the laptop was genuine.
      
      The chain of control of the laptop is hopelessly compromised. It’s clear there is some genuine Hunter Biden content on there. It’s not clear how it got there (likely from hacked Apple backup). It’s also clear there’s some fake content on there too.
      
      That’s very similar to the situation with Macron’s emails too. Both have a lot of hallmarks of Russian intelligence operations.
      
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      June 7, 2024 8:24pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Lol
        Your denial is amusing
        Theres pictures of the guy smoking crack- with hookers, who testified they got drugs and money for drugs for him
        And you wonder why we laugh at you
        Russia Russia Russia
        WAFM
        
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        June 7, 2024 10:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Well the Republican director must be a RINO. The GOP is infested with them, never Trumpers.
    
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    June 8, 2024 12:47am
Simon

Without looking it up can you name the deputy prime minister of the UK?
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June 7, 2024 8:03am
- MCōs
  
  It’s hard enough keeping up with whoever’s deputy PM here this week
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:00am
  - graham
    
    So we’ll put you down as a “No” then, MCos …
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:05am
- virtualmark
  
  It’s hard enough keeping up with who’s the current prime minister of the UK.
  
  In recent years they’ve had more turnover at the top than Italy has.
  
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  June 7, 2024 12:50pm
  - jkt
    
    They have a credibility crisis in England.
    In Italy it was incredible.
    
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    June 7, 2024 2:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Let’s have a go at this:
The gun, stupid!

https://whiskeyandbabes.com/farm-girl-and-her-50-caliber-s-and-w-500-magnum-2/?
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June 7, 2024 8:04am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I am counting down to your comment being deleted by the moderators. 😂 3, 2, 1
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:10am
  - cmm
    
    Why?
    
    Bikinis and bits of steel?
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:47am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There’s no violence or threats to kill.
    No bad language.
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:29am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I’m just speculating 🙂 Comments are removed for much lower offences than violence and threats to kill.
      
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      June 7, 2024 11:01am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Exactly… I was modded and called ‘juvenile’ last night for mentioning a gap in someones teeth. LOL!!
        
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        June 7, 2024 11:39am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        There are one or two who pick up on some real silly things, but mods are needed.
        Kiwiblog would be a real shambles without them. DPF can not be watchdog all the time, he has a job and a business to run.
        
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        June 7, 2024 12:58pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        A couple of months back I was browsing some kiwiblog archives. There was a commenter several years ago with the name ‘ztev’. Just from a browse, he caused chaos. Mix of trolling and abuse. Before my time here thankfully. Without the mods, inevitably another ztev would invade the joint.
        
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        June 7, 2024 1:18pm
      - jkt
        
        Nope.
        Other than making a sad personal comment you need to type something really outrageous to get picked on.
        
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        June 7, 2024 2:12pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @Benedict 1.18pm.
        Ztev. Many speculated it was Trevor Mallard. Still not sure.
        
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        June 7, 2024 4:24pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

USA beats Pakistan at the World Cup. Major boil over!

But, it’s Pakistan. The result may well be legit, but the shadow of past corruption casts long.
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June 7, 2024 8:06am
- greybeard
  
  Exactly what I thought, especially after reading this bit: “A wayward Mohammad Amir bowled three additional balls in the United States’ Super Over”.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:55am
  - Jethrod
    
    Probably the thinking went, we can suck a lose to get a better go at the semi-finals.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:56am
    - MCōs
      
      If America beats Ireland Pakistan are out
      
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      June 7, 2024 10:29am
    - jkt
      
      I take it you do not follow cricket!
      This was Hansieusqe.
      
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      June 7, 2024 2:14pm
- Red
  
  Follow the money!
  
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  June 7, 2024 4:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

By email:
D-Day, some facts.

https://www.rvmnews.com/2024/06/essential-d-day-facts-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-normandy-invasion/?
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June 7, 2024 8:08am
- peterwn
  
  Winston Churchill was looking through a manifest of equipment being shipped to France and questioned why 6 dentists chairs were needed for the invasion. “A soldier with toothache is no use to me” was the response from the General.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:40am
  - kowtow
    
    Churchill was also amazed at how the Americans could bring so much Coca Cola to a theatre ( I think North Africa) ……..maybe they wouldn’t have needed the dentist if they hadn’t had the Coke .
    
    Other D Day oddities . The crossword controvery is very interesting ( Mulberry and Neptune )
    
    The 3 British beaches were code named after fish . When , again , I think it was Churchill ,learned that Jelly fish was the “J” beach he said , no way , imagine writing to a parent that their son died at Jelly fish beach . It then became Juno.
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:50am
  - virtualmark
    
    The big advantage the Allies had was logistics.
    
    The invasion of France was still a close-run thing a month after D-day. But the Allies were moving in a huge amount of additional people and material every single day, and eventually sheer weight of numbers prevailed.
    
    (Yes that’s a big simplification, and air superiority was also a big factor … but ultimately their logistics prevailed)
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:54pm
    - kowtow
      
      It also helped no end that the vast majority of the Krauts were battling the Reds . That the idiot Hitler kept a huge army ( granted of second rate troops) in Norway , cos WSC’s commando raids and previous Narvik etc interventions; that the British double agent system helped convince them the main invasion was Calais ( Paton’s non existent First Army Group , Op Fortitude ) . the resistance slowing down German communications and movements behind the front. the non release by Hitler of the armour . And indeed will we ever know how much treachery was involved by elements of the German high command in the whole thing.
      
      naval and air superiority were crucial as a precondition to the invasion.
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:27pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Yes, agreed.
        
        But the key thing in the first 4-6 weeks after D-day was the Allies ability to keep landing more and more weight of numbers into the Normandy salient.
        
        The Normandy landing was a real arm-wrestle for several weeks, with little progress beyond the beaches. It could easily have failed if the Allies hadn’t been able to keep reinforcing their position.
        
        Ultimately armies run on logistics.
        
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        June 7, 2024 1:52pm
      - kowtow
        
        I agree the logistics were amazing .As was the build up of equipment etc
        
        The special pre built harbours ( one wrecked in storms) the fuel pipe line etc
        
        But all that would have come to nothing without the numerous factors above .
        
        Esp the simple fact that the Germans spent the vast amount of their resources fighting the Reds .Along with the total air superiority ( a precondition for invasion) and almost total naval .
        
        Some people say the turning point of the war in Europe was D Day , it wasn’t ,it was Stalingrad .
        
        It has been said , I think WSC ,that Hitler’s biggest mistake was he had to be strong everywhere ie fighting on numerous fronts without a good central reserve that he could throw at problems like Normandy .
        While the western allies were able to put the vast amount of their resources into one major operation , Normandy . But again remember they too were tying down German forces from Normandy with the Italy campaign , as well as the landings in S France.
        Not to mention the air and sea campaigns .All were major fronts aginst Germany.
        
        No amount of logistics would have counted had Hitler been able and willing to throw manpower at the tenuous beach footholds .But he was too tied down.
        
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        June 7, 2024 2:38pm
      - cmm
        
        Yup, an army marches on its stomach.
        Logistics is almost everything.
        
        Much of the German might was brought to a standstill for lack of provisions – especially fuel.
        
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        June 7, 2024 4:05pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Biden today paid homage to the heroes of Normandy by shitting himself, as many of those landing (up to 90% fatality rate) would also have done.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:28am
  - virtualmark
    
    Gotta say I don’t see it. He appears to go to sit down too early, that’s all.
    
    Just like the other allegation that he goes to sit down on invisible chair … but if you watch an unedited clip it’s clear that there is a chair there.
    
    Sounds like a desperate attempt by MAGA to deflect from Michael Cohen calling Trump “von Schitzenpants”, and other people in Trump’s circle saying he’s incontinent and wears a diaper.
    
    With MAGA every accusation is a confession.
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:59pm
    - Red
      
      Biden is a Space Cadet ramped on Aderall or some such Amphetamine, still nods off.
      
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      June 7, 2024 4:20pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Interesting.
        
        By space cadet do you mean he’s astronaut-like, with the right stuff, or that he’s got dementia?
        
        And, if you mean the latter, are you saying that Aderall reverses the impacts of dementia? Big, if true. But truth is … there is no drug that even arrests, let alone reverses the effects of dementia.
        
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        June 7, 2024 5:17pm
Benedict Yu

This is worth a read.

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/nz-sales/nz-sales-2024/nz-sales-may-sales-mayday/2024-06-05/93999.html

The crash in EV sales in New Zealand is spectacular. Not in a good way if that is your line of work. EV market share 4 percent. 😕

Markets that are created by subsidies often have spectacular falls. The imposition of road user charges on EVs was the last straw for the market. It simply means that for most people they are terrible value for money.
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June 7, 2024 8:08am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Just an addendum. It is not clear whether these EV sales figures include EV sales to government agencies. Does the government still have an EV target for government agencies? Perhaps agencies have quietly gone back to buying the $25,000 Toyota Yarris instead of the $70,000 EVs. The latter never made sense. It was simply a direction from the last government.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:23am
  - Conservatarian
    
    The government contractor class “buying a Tesla for the business” was rampant during the subsidy period. For a Tesla costing $77,500 (this is approximate), you got a $7,500 “clean car discount” so you paid $70k cash or on tick. Then you claim a GST refund of 3/23 of the $70k ($9k refund). You then depreciate the remaining value of $61k, writing off an additional $17k ($61k x corporate tax rate 28%) over the next 5 years. Over five years, your company has paid $44k for a $77,500 car and the taxpayer subsidises you for the remaining 43% ($33.5k / $77,500).
    
    You may have to return some depreciation recovery income (at 28% of the “profit”) if you sell the car and get something for it having written the car’s value down to zero over 5 years. I’m not sure of the market value for a used electric car with a five year old battery.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:07am
  - jkt
    
    An EV option makes sense for some.
    I struggle to see an EV as a business pool vehicle. EV’s has limited utility but provides an economic opportunity.
    
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    June 7, 2024 2:21pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s across the west . Te he he.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:51am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  I heard some bloke being interviewed on The Platform a month or two back, who was suggesting that the downturn seen in Jan/Feb was a bit of a blip, and he thought EV sales would pick up again.
  I wonder how much longer he’ll hang onto that view.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:57am
  - jkt
    
    Let me know when you become aware of a fire sale.
    The right price and product and I may well go for an upgrade.
    
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    June 7, 2024 2:23pm
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      Fire sale and EVs – I see what you did there. 😉
      
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      June 7, 2024 4:31pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  BTW if you want to read about market bubbles and busts here are some good reads.
  
  https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dutch_tulip_bulb_market_bubble.asp
  
  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-dec-16-mn-64567-story.html
  
  The USA emu farming bubble in the 1990s is an amazing story.
  
  Back to EVs… if these sales levels continue I doubt that all the dealerships will be viable. In May, 44 Tesla Model Ys were sold. May 2023 it was over 1,000.
  
  The sales show that those with money are buying large SUVs. The rest are buying second hand Japanese 4 cylinder run abouts.
  
  You can’t force people to pay for an ideology. Of course if the Government changes again, expect the Greens to do just that. By simply banning ICE cars.
  
  BTW those who tell us about the low maintenance costs of an EV are correct. Pity if you are in a minor collision. The cars are often written off.
  
  https://fortune.com/2024/04/13/electric-vechicle-repair-costs-ev-accidents-battery-total-loss-junkyard/
  
  BTW Last year, I drove into a wall with my 2002 Toyota Celica. Snapped the front bumper in half. I can’t recommend this product highly enough.
  
  “Ados Epoxy 121 Repair Anything”
  
  https://www.crc.co.nz/ados-121-repair-anything-500ml/#:~:text=ADOS%20121%20is%20the%20revolutionary,quicker%20and%20easier%20than%20ever.
  
  Car was as good as new for $73 + a can of spray paint.
  
  Try doing that in a Tesla 🙁
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:12am
  - Red
    
    New Zealand had an Angora Goat Bubble, at the time one outfit wanted to breed Crocodiles here, denied permission fortunately, as most of the Goats were released into the wild when the market crashed.
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:54pm
    - kowtow
      
      Deer boom in late ’90s’.
      
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      June 7, 2024 2:40pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    I wonder how long it takes and how much it will cost to dispose of an EV after its useful life / Or crash ?
    
    Who takes them in and then what do they do with the battery ?
    
    Any ideas ?. It seems like “pass the parcel ” to me at least.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:06pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      No idea. The ones that are written off are where there is any damage at all to the batteries. The risk of a fire is so high that the insurance company just writes off the vehicle. Given my record of backing into rock walls/bollards/garage doors, I am not sure I want an EV.
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:22pm
    - jkt
      
      That is why insurance costs are high.
      Recycling an EV is not that hard. It is just very hard to find someone that can take care of the job.
      
      4% market share (and increasing) may well be the catalyst for a niche opportunity to service and recondition EV batteries. Testing and replacing battery components are labour intensive, technical and expensive.
      
      The technical part is 😎 and the expensive part tells us that there may well be competition in this market in future.
      
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      June 7, 2024 2:34pm
      - cmm
        
        There is already quite a market in refurbished batteries, but, being second hand, they come with built in extra range/life anxiety.
        
        There are some people also replacing faulty cells too.
        
        The problem though is what fitting one of these would do to insurance.
        
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        June 7, 2024 4:11pm
      - jkt
        
        Thanks. That is truely useful advice.
        
        Anxiety is not a problem for me. I drive less than 20km, 40 return trip.
        
        Balance of third party is the only insurance needed if one drives an old Leaf like me. Now I just need to find someone that will accept an old Leaf as a gift.
        
        That is where the second hand battery market may be useful.
        
        Hmmmm. I can save some serious money self insuring.
        
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        June 7, 2024 4:37pm
- Red
  
  Not hard to see the trend once subsidies are removed…The top sellers in a slow month..
  Pure EVs
  Tesla Model Y: 44
  Tesla Model 3: 32
  Hyundai IONIQ 5: 24
  Utes
  Ford Ranger: 1067
  Toyota Hilux: 709
  Mitsubishi Triton: 444
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/distressing-fifth-straight-month-of-slow-new-car-sales-more-dealers-closures-likely/XWIJR6NAYRCWBPML36LDTEHBKA/
  
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  June 7, 2024 4:24pm
lifesgood

As if anyone would ever use the ridiculous name Ngati Whatua want to give downtown Auckland. They must be dreaming.
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June 7, 2024 8:08am
- artemisia
  
  It’s like the bank robbers – that’s where the money is.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:54am
- I remember when
  
  How Whatua?
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:09am
- Damocles11
  
  It’s reclaimed land as well, so it’s a head scratcher as to how it could have an ‘original Maori name.’
  And we’ve been spelling Takanini wrong apparently: ‘The proposal from Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa New Zealand Geographic Board would restore the original Māori name, Te Tōangaroa to an area on the waterfront of Auckland’s CBD, and correct the spelling of Takanini to Takaanini.’
  How a people without a written language can claim that words are being spelled incorrectly….it’s truly bizarre.
  Looks like the goal is just to keep mucking around with the words to keep imposing a cultural hegemony on the rest of us. ‘Maori’ is now being rendered as Māori, and also now Maaori…at least until some new variation crops up.
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:58am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Petone becomes Pita – One. Peter owe knee.
    How pathetic, made up names.
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:38am
    - lifesgood
      
      No one will ever call it that, though. A place is named by the people who live there and common useage, take Paekak, for example. What about Daddy two toes for Papatoetoe. I’m get a bit annoyed with this government for not knocking this nonsense on the head and how about keeping their promise of changing the Maori names of govt departments?
      
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      June 7, 2024 11:18am
      - leoj
        
        Nats:
        
        Lots of talk but no walk.
        
        Somewhat typical.
        
        Never forget that Luxon is too freaking scared to upset the mob.
        
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        June 7, 2024 12:44pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      I suggest a bit of research Steve, before displaying your lack of knowledge on the subject.
      
      A simple search in history files would have done the trick.
      
      https://nzhistory.govt.nz/keyword/petone
      
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      June 7, 2024 12:38pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        It was satire – yet again. It was from somewhere else, but I think most figured it was a joke.
        Sorry you missed it.
        
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        June 7, 2024 4:28pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Even more confusing is that some iwi like Waikato don’t employ macrons for a long vowel sound…they double the vowel…
    
    so going to be difficult to know whether it is a long vowel sound or 2 separate vowel sounds when you first come across some words.
    
    Doubling the vowel instead of using a macron is widely used in some iwi, most strongly in Waikato, and some te reo Māori words contain double vowels, which are different to macrons. Whakaahua (photograph) and ātaahua (beautiful) are examples.
    
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/13-10-2017/get-your-macron-on-a-guide-to-writing-maori-the-right-way
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:40am
    - softail 1450
      
      MW , this coalition said they’d stop this shit, has luxflakes been got to ??
      
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      June 7, 2024 12:18pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Lot of that in Turangi. My parents lived in Puataata road Turangi.
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:01pm
- sirknz
  
  Wasn’t that area all underwater?
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:26am
  - lifesgood
    
    Yep! Do people realise that Ngati Whatua invaded Auckland from the north and drove off the tribe already living here which fled to the Waikato. Ain’t it funny that it is only nasty colonials who stole land.
    Now because most NZers don’t know their history Ngati Whatua have somehow gained sainted status in Auckland and have been given land that didn’t exist and land that they stole.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:22am
    - Damocles11
      
      It seems that Brown people can steal land off other Brown people (and kill, eat, or enslave them into the bargain) and that’s ok; it’s White people taking land (including through purchase or confiscation in war) from Brown people that is forbidden.
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:06pm
imalwaysright

$4 billion to fix 200,000 potholes.

That’s $20,000 for each pothole.

Are they filling them with $2 coins?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/518828/transport-minister-simeon-brown-reveals-1-point-6b-boost-for-pothole-fund
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June 7, 2024 8:12am
- Matt Long
  
  $20 to fill the pothole, the restt covers traffic management plans, back office, protective crumple zone truck, traffic lights and pilot vehicles, and a billion cones.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:52am
  - kowtow
    
    Consulting “locals”, cough cough.
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:50am
  - leoj
    
    Yep, the dreaded cones.
    
    We have cones pandemic.
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:46pm
- artemisia
  
  Apparently fixing potholes means fixing some poor quality roads first. Preventive maintenance. Smart but expensive.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:56am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Road maintenance workers have just blown through the streets out here in East Auckland, making sure the rarely used cul-de-sacs all have shiny new surfaces.
    I’ve always wondered why they put so much effort into surfaces that don’t need it.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:02am
- Mike
  
  Simeon Brown doesn’t believe people can do such difficult arithmetic as 4,000,000,000 ÷ 200,000.
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:03am
  - cmm
    
    After 6 years of Labour maths teachers he would probably be right.
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:14pm
Matt Long

In very exciting news Golden Bay Cement, which is one of the lowest carbon footprint manufacturers in the world, has used a 16 million dollar taxpayer grant to convert to burning tyres instead of coal, and hope to burn other waste streams such as carpet; great news for the Environment!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/golden-bay-makes-most-of-old-tyres-to-replace-coal-in-cement-making-in-northland/ITBW5QIUYFDUFPOAFPTMFF4ARA/
Meanwhile despicable polluters are trying to destroy The Environment by building a waste to energy plant in Kaipara, but are being opposed by valient national lobbyists Zero Waste Network.
Is it at all ironical that both these articles should appear on The Advocates page at the same time nearly adjoining?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/kaipara-waste-to-energy-plant-opponents-spare-us-the-sales-pitch/KEW2H3C5INDQ5HCB4KWJWDP7J4/
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June 7, 2024 8:12am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I don’t know much about tyre derived fuels but IIRC they reduce the output of carbon dioxide compared to coal. Yay. 😕 But at the expense of dioxins and heavy metals.
  
  A good example of the perverse consequences of a single goal of reducing greenhouse emissions.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:29am
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes, I am thinking masks just got a whole lot more important when mixing concrete as they’re incorporating tyre residue into the cement.
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:55am
  - cmm
    
    Rubber is composed mainly of many CH bonds – just like gas or petrol. When that is burned:
    * The C changes to CO2.
    * The H changes to H20.
    All the other much like sulphurs generate various nasty compounds.
    
    Coal is almost entirely carbon, making CO2.
    
    If all you’re worried about is CO2 then burning a hydrocarbon rich compound (gas, oil, rubber…) makes more sense because you’re getting less CO2 for a given amount of heat – thanks to all the hydrogen being burned to make H2O.
    
    That is one of the reasons Cindy’s shutting down gas is so daft. Shutting down gas and replacing it with imported coal is plainly nuts.
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:22pm
- pdm
  
  Genuine question.
  
  How do they get around the black smoke and stink from burning tyres?
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:42am
  - Matt Long
    
    Various burning emissions scrubbers described here.
    https://www.watertechonline.com/wastewater/article/15550703/smokestack-scrubbers-how-they-work-and-why-they-are-used
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:00am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    They don’t burn whole tyres. The tyres are shredded into pellets. They can also be heated to turn them into a liquid.
    
    Beyond my expertise but seems like a step backwards from burning coal.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:03am
    - greybeard
      
      Many years ago I read an article on shredding tyres: they were experimenting with super-freezing them first to change their structure, but I think there was a problem with the steel reinforcing.
      
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      June 7, 2024 9:10am
  - cmm
    
    Most black smoke is due to incomplete combustion. The black is soot – unburned carbon.
    
    As with burning all fuels which can make soot (oils, gas, rubber etc), the solution is to improve combustion (eg. burn hotter with more oxygen).
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:24pm
- Inandout
  
  ML, tyres are an ideal source of energy and their composition is akin to waste rubbish. Burning rubbish at high temperature is used extensively overseas to produce heating.
  
  ‘Tyres are primarily made of rubber, which is combined with other different raw materials. Typically, tyre components include natural and synthetic rubber, carbon black, silica, numerous chemical ingredients, antioxidants, curing systems, and textile and texture reinforcement cables’.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:42am
- CJames
  
  They also want to build a waste disposal plant at Te Awamutu. Both Kaipara and TA plant wouldn’t need to be built if we built the plant at Meremere twenty years ago. But Greenpeace had a scare campaign that stopped that. Their evil runs deep and long.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:54am
Scooter

Surely this is a piss take or she has to be removed as Mayor, after all she is in charge of the capital of NZ and announcing she has ADHD and autism. Listen in disbelief to this delusional interview, at the end she says “we now know what can be achieved in an hour can now be achieved in 15 mins and to front load to the start of the day and ease back in the afternoon”. No longer the Coolest little Capital in the World but the Foolish little Capital.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-reveals-adhd-diagnosis-with-significant-traits-of-autism/
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June 7, 2024 8:16am
- Inandout
  
  Scooter, what else has Tory got in her medical condition cupboard? She has to be the weirdest Mayor in NZ.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:45am
  - Clyde
    
    There is a Mayor in Central Otago who signed some sort of declaration along with Tory Whanau who said that democracy is broken. In today’s edition of the Otago Daily Times, the same Mayor is reported as advising Central Otago ratepayers who can’t afford the obscene rate demand rises of about 20% to reverse mortgage their homes. So, I’d say this couple of Mayors both should win the weirdest award.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:38am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Most people with traits of autism manage it. Sometimes well so that they live successful lives. What they do not do is shout their diagnosis from the rooftops. ☹️
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:48am
  - kowtow
    
    How do you know someone’s ADHD .
    
    Their Mum keeps telling everyone.
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:53am
  - Scooter
    
    No only narcissists do that, I’m surprised she didn’t list that as one of her personality disorders.
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:55am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Yes, like how you know someone who is vegan? They will tell you.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:16am
  - Ra Henare
    
    As that as well as all that she has a serious case of self delusion and needs the sympathy vote?
    
    hence the interview. The interview may of course be fact free and another PR stunt. Maybe?
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:43pm
  - John Loveridge
    
    That would be because most don’t have a severe co-affliction of narcissism?
    
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    June 7, 2024 12:48pm
- greybeard
  
  I didn’t believe it when I heard it. Two questions sprung to my mind:
  1. Is it normal for a person to receive their first-ever diagnosis of ADHD at her age?
  2. Who was the “therapist” involved ?
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:03am
  - I remember when
    
    I am aware of a case of an early forties female who was diagnosed as ADHD as a result of tests at work.
    Not sure whether the results were a by-product of a test for another purpose.
    Yes there were other signs but when are they significant enough to suggest a problem.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:21am
    - NothingLeft
      
      ADHD+ASD diagnoses are a way of achieving victimhood clout for the woke to provide armour against all criticism.
      
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      June 7, 2024 11:31am
  - sirknz
    
    In regards to 2, Whanau probably went to the last one that Chloe did, the only one of the several she saw to get the diagnosis she wanted…
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:07am
    - greybeard
      
      Maybe it was to counteract the public response to this:
      
      Wellington City Council votes to sell airport shares.
      “Whanau said the proceeds of the sale will be transferred into a new green perpetual investment fund.”
      Yeah right: just watch it disappear without a trace within a year or so. Wasted on some Greens scam.
      
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      June 7, 2024 2:13pm
      - cmm
        
        We invested it all in a Maori perpetual motion start up.
        Unlike perpetual motion machines limited by Pakeha physics, this one had a really, really, good chance of working.
        
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        June 7, 2024 3:41pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I listened to the interview and couldn’t really pinpoint anything that suggests ADHD or Autism.
  
  She talks of having different thoughts in her head at the same time……. who doesn’t?
  
  She talks of being hyper-focused at times… well, aren’t most sports people/writers/musicians/ craftspeople….. or even ordinary folk when a job has to be done?
  
  I’d diagnose her as a self-indulgent adult with much too much time on her hands……(but what would I know?)
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:39am
  - artemisia
    
    And I would add casting around for somewhere to lay blame in the face of widespread public criticism.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:50am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Did she say which of her faculties are subnormal?
    Was she suffering mental illness when she cast votes in the past?
    
    Or is this another episode in the Tory Whanau show.
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:50am
  - cmm
    
    ” too much time on her hands”, along with:
    too much time in front of the mirror
    too much time in front of the drinks cabinet
    
    Anyone with an IQ over 15 can have 2 thoughts in their head at the same time.
    
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    June 7, 2024 3:39pm
- John Loveridge
  
  For such an introvert, Tory sure loves yapping about herself. The wretched woman is really taking the piss now.
  
  Let’s be honest, Tory. “Front-loading” your day and making sure you get plenty of rest is code for “fuck off by lunchtime”.
  
  However, if your revelation about doing in 15 minutes what used to be done in an hour can be extended across the entire council organisation, Wellington ratepayers should be able to look forward to a 75% reduction in staffing, and a corresponding drop in their rates bills.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:50am
- lifesgood
  
  Just like Chloe Swarbrick, then. Are they also narcissists?
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:24am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Seems like having a mental illness, ADHD, anger issues or some other ailment is actually a requirement for the Greens.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:34am
- The Feed
  
  I,I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me……
  
  “People of Wellington” not really worth a mention.
  
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  June 7, 2024 12:45pm
- Red
  
  Elon Musk has ADHD and uses it to his advantage.
  It is not an impairment, it is something to be worked with to improve outcomes.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:18pm
Tasman devil

So Mayor Whanau is not only an alcoholic, but autistic, and suffers from attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

All the best Wellington ratepayers, you deserve her.
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- kiwikidsnz
  
  50 years ago no one had heard of these multiple letter psych acronyms, we would have just said she was really badly behaved & incompetent. And we would have been right.
  
  Clearly all non property owning students who voted her in wanted someone who closely represented them.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:46am
- Bobba Fret
  
  How long is it before they can vote her out? But then again, they voted for her in the first place and may well do again!!! Good luck Wellington. I think you are already the only major NZ city with a shrinking population.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:36am
- wilderbeast
  
  This is hilarious. Alcoholic, ADHD, autistic, but apparently still on top of her game as mayor of Wellington. What label will you adopt next Tory? Ridiculous.
  
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  June 7, 2024 7:01pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Backup if Trump goes to prison.

https://discernreport.com/rnc-making-backup-plans-for-presidential-nomination-if-trump-is-sentenced-to-prison/
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June 7, 2024 8:19am
- waikatosinger
  
  These are plans for how he can accept the nomination from prison. No hint of a plan to replace him.
  
  Good!
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There is nobody that can do the job he is going to do.
    Those Judges and Prosecutors must be shitting themselves.
    Merchan will be having second thoughts about jailing Trump, because he will get reamed come 2025.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:05pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING HARD

People with knowledge of the matter are saying the allegations from the ‘Manurewa Marae Whistleblower’, who claims the MSD was complicit in the Maraes misuse of public funds during the 2023 Election Campaign…. COULDN’T BE MORE SERIOUS!

(Listen)

https://x.com/TheRedbaiter/status/1798589186607640918
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June 7, 2024 8:23am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Has the government announced an inquiry? Perhaps I missed it. It requires a public inquiry under the Inquiries Act. Such inquiries have considerable powers. Allowing individual agencies like Stats New Zealand to investigate.. Well good luck. 😥
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:36am
  - pdm
    
    BY – sounds like that will be Luxons first job on Monday.
    
    Obviously not much authority was passed to Acting PM Seymour.
    
    Is Luxon Helen Clark mark 11?
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:46am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      He is nothing like Helen Clark.
      
      Only Cabinet can establish such an inquiry. If that is their intention, next Monday is the earliest opportunity.
      
      David Seymour is acting PM to authorise any essential matters in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet. And to respond to a national emergency. That is it. He said as much yesterday in an interview with Sean Plunket yesterday.
      
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      June 7, 2024 8:54am
    - Red
      
      Luxon is busy, and a week is a long time in Politics!
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:24pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I heard them saying the PM will be looking into what to do about this when he gets back from overseas next week. Will be interesting to see where it goes from here. Even heard Willie this morning on telly saying it needs to be fully investigated.
    
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    June 7, 2024 8:48am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I suspect that the head of the inquiry has been chosen..
      
      If the allegations are proven, these folk could face serious charges.
      
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      June 7, 2024 8:56am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I think there’s too many players involved… Any inquiry will be stymied by some and deflected by others.
        
        I expect the trails of who was authorising and checking on payments to entities associated with Waipareira Trust, Manuwera Marae and Whanau Ora all lead into dead-end mazes.
        
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        June 7, 2024 9:11am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        I suspect you’re right actually Maggz.
        Government depts hate investigating themselves.
        Thery’re all in on it anyway 🙁
        
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        June 7, 2024 9:44am
- Ruawai
  
  With Te Pati Maori in the spotlight and it being a Friday, today will be a good day for the Greens to release the Darleen Tana report.
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And another clear fortnight before Parliament sits…
    
    lots of time to find some other promises National broke.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:44am
- Swifty
  
  Welcome to our new future under ‘decolonisation’.
  
  I really do wish that more New Zealanders would ask themselves the simple question as to whether the fundamental changes mooted by some will lead to better outcomes and brighter futures – because when it comes to fucking around with our hard-won democratic principles, structures and freedoms I argue they resoundingly will not.
  
  We are being actively led into very dark places and more of us need to say ‘No’.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:13am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Tova O’Brien doing her bit to highlight that Act’s issues are far more serious than a bit of fraud.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350302543/tears-and-resignations-after-train-wreck-act-party-election-campaign-sources
  
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  June 7, 2024 12:17pm
Simon

Stock market pick. UK top shares – just on say market capital. Undervalued generally and with a change of govt, despite being Labo, might improve confidence etc.

Counter signal buy call. Might be good for 4 t0 5 yrs until reality of Labo bites.
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June 7, 2024 8:26am
Chuck Bird

Looking at Sports Bet Aust, Trump has not been harmed by being found guilty.
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June 7, 2024 8:29am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

No CC gun license for Trump.
They really do want him assassinated.

https://www.rvmnews.com/2024/06/nypd-moves-to-revoke-trumps-gun-license-amid-controversial-charges/?
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June 7, 2024 8:31am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Isn’t he always surrounded by armed body guards?
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:32am
  - Mike
    
    Who doubtless would not let him carry his own weapon.
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Mike, he has a gun license and a concealed carry permit. He can be armed if he wishes.
      Bodyguard who says no will get the DCM.
      You’re fired, FIRED!!
      
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      June 7, 2024 1:09pm
      - Mike
        
        Trump doesn’t own the bodyguards. .
        
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        June 7, 2024 4:05pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes he has bodyguards, but I’m sure he likes to be careful. He is marked, and all it takes is one of the thousands of unhinged Democrats.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:08pm
- Inandout
  
  SO, his Secret Service 24/7 detail is armed.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe he can’t fire any then.
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:31pm
- MCōs
  
  I think there’s a certain amount of paranoia going on there, Steve
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:02am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There are millions who want him gone, assassinated.
    Dems are just the ones to do it. No paranoia at all.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:12pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Don’t recall you noting that when Jacinda Ardern required ongoing protection after leaving office!
    
    What’s the difference then with Trump? Only about 6 billion people more interested in the potential future POTUS than an ex-NZ PM and I would hazard a guess he attracts a significantly greater amount of online hate and vitriol than Ardern.
    
    So clearly Ardern is suffering from paranoia.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:17pm
  - cmm
    
    There are many saying stuff like Trump is as dangerous as Hitler.
    
    There are many who think it would be a good thing had someone just shot Hitler.
    No doubt there are many who think the same of Trump.
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:29pm
oldpark

Interesting to read that the home delivered Wellington Post Newspaper which sometimes masquerades as the holier than thou “Stuff” is once more increasing the price of their Newspaper to continue their one sided biased attack on the democratically NZ Government elected on 14 October 2023 .
Pity they didn’t do the same attacks on the Ardern/Hipkins/ Robertson/Green/ Ctu/ Public Service unions in the period 2020- 2023 .that was when NZs hard fought for democracy took a real beating .
Yet to read some of the daily bias coming out of the joke that keeps giving they are blaming the new Government as if they were the then Government .
Biggest and worst example and there are many.
The so called cartoon attacks on our Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and others in the new elected Government by some type of faceless clowns looking for a reason to justify their employment .
Hard to believe that people will once more pay an increase to supplement such Media Bias .Not forgetting the Good Friday and Christmas Day charges for newspapers that don’t get delivered on those mentioned days .
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June 7, 2024 8:36am
- pdm
  
  OP – on that basis Terrible Tova takes a swipe at a few election campaign people (volunteers) leaving ACT after the election. Sounds like normal attrition to me.
  
  No mention of Maori Party Marauding at Manurewa Marae though.
  
  Priorities Tova? Of course destroy the Coalition Government at all costs.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:51am
  - greybeard
    
    My email to Hosking this morning when he first mentioned this :
    ” I see that the report into ACT in connection with the election campaign was written by Tova O’Brien.
    Enough said: her anti-coalition vitriol and venom is well known and documented.
    Will she investigate Labour and Greens as well ? “
    
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    June 7, 2024 9:16am
- MCōs
  
  Here’s yesterday’s cartoon having a poke at the pop up Deputy PM
  The ‘faceless’ artist is Jim Hubbard
  https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350300427/cartoon-june-6
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:10am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Because putting Seymour riding backwards on a horse is way more topical than a cartoon of Tamihere handing out hangi food and koha vouchers while hoovering up electoral roll sign-ons.
    
    Jim Hubbard just another lefty troll posing as a cartoonist, creating propaganda for other lefty trolls.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:22pm
BeaB

When something went wrong that needs fixing now, if is was done under a National Government, that is always clearly stated on RNZ. When things went wrong under Labour, it is always a ‘previous government’. Daily small examples of a larger problem of bias – which of course RNZ denies.
National ministers are abruptly shut down if they dare to lay any blame on Labour although Hipkins is given free rein to lambast National.
Perhaps National needs to start talking about ‘yet another Labour mess’ – the health mess, the education mess, the roads mess, the ferry mess, the polytechnic mess.
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June 7, 2024 8:39am
I remember when

King Charles really did appear to be the right person to be King at the D-Day memorial.
His speech seemed to touch every base and perfectly fitted the occasion and this historical event.
In contrast Justin Trudeau seemed light weight and spoke as a politician.
The importance of the recognition and memories of those who were involved at the time made the ceremony the event it was meant to be.
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June 7, 2024 8:40am
- pdm
  
  Justin Trudeau is lightweight.
  
  How else could he be Arderns best mate!!!!!
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:53am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Trudeau looked like he had the hots for the poison Ukrainian dwarf.
    They are an insult to fallen soldiers.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:13am
  - kowtow
    
    Turdeau might look lightweight , but he’s a very serious offender of the very rights and liberties those brave young men were fighting to defend .
    
    He has very fascist tendencies.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:34am
- kowtow
  
  I’m not so sure .
  
  It appears to me that these commemorations are more and more about giving politicians ( or H oS ) a profile or chance to mutual back scratch than actually about the soldiers ( the few that remain) who made the sacrifices or the principles they were fighting for.
  
  Just consider how terribly the UK treats current and recent veterans in need of legal and medical protection from the very politicians who sent them into harms way . The US too. Etc
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:00am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Kow,
    That is correct. They treat veterans like shit. In every case illegal immigrants will get far more government assistance far more quickly than veterans.
    They roll up to these functions and wring their soft hands and drip their crocodile tears.
    Hypocrites.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:18am
Maggie Pie

Just how dreadful are things going to get for the Trump Campaign?

Looks like the Dems will lock them ALL up! 🙁

STEVE BANNON SENT TO PRISON ….

https://x.com/RealAmVoice/status/1798758841217323215
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June 7, 2024 8:44am
- waikatosinger
  
  Bannon hasn’t been part of the Trump campaign since the early days of the Trump administration which was a very long time ago. He and Trump had a falling out.
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:48am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Bannon is still a supporter.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:14pm
- virtualmark
  
  Shrug. If you don’t want to do the time, then don’t do the crime.
  
  Or should that be “If you don’t want to do the time, then honour the subpoena and testify”.
  
  Or should that be “I’ve run the numbers and the penalty for blowing the subpoena is less than the penalty for perjury, which is what I’d have to do if I testified”.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:05pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  Eric Holder, Obama’s Attorney General, was held in contempt of Congress back in 2012 because he refused a subpoena to testify or hand-over papers to the House committee investigating the Fast and Furious scandal. The vote was 255-67 and included 17 Democrats.
  
  Naturally there was no follow-up of arrest and trial because such things were not done to such high and mighty people, only little people (and even then pretty rarely). BTW, another Trump advisor, Peter Navarro, is also serving jail time for also telling the Jan 6 committee to shove it.
  
  Fair enough. Future Eric Holder’s and Democrat Presidential advisors are on notice.
  
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  June 7, 2024 3:57pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Shrug. If you get subpoenaed then testify, and tell the truth.
    
    Bannon’s problem (and Navarro’s) is that they knew telling the truth was worse than blowing off the subpoena.
    
    So really the underlying lesson is don’t do criminal shit.
    
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    June 7, 2024 5:20pm
I remember when

Good Lord.
The BNZ is recognising the fact that bank customers want more face-to-face contact.
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June 7, 2024 8:50am
- Flossie
  
  Any links or whatever I can read to learn more about this?
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:50am
  - greybeard
    
    https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/06/06/bnz-making-major-change-to-when-its-branches-will-open/
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:37am
    - kowtow
      
      ‘In recent years, driven by customer demand for online and call centre services — especially during the pandemic — the bank reduced the number of days many branches were open.’
      
      Customer demand , my arse.
      
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      June 7, 2024 10:47am
      - Bobba Fret
        
        Yes if I remember rightly, it was forced upon us.
        
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        June 7, 2024 12:20pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-reveals-adhd-diagnosis-with-significant-traits-of-autism/

Yeah…that tracks.
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June 7, 2024 8:50am
- Keith White
  
  “I’m a victim” card being proffered, as her “You are all racists” and “You are all sexists” cards are overdrawn.
  
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  June 7, 2024 12:08pm
- rouppe
  
  Is much easier to say you have ADHD than admit you’re bat shit crazy
  
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  June 7, 2024 12:16pm
Nigel Kearney

I would like to see a lot more media coverage comparisons like the budget one from yesterday. It would be great if this blog could take the lead on that and really hammer them hard. It is so easy to do using google searches, e.g.:

“george santos” site:nzherald.co.nz

“anthony weiner” site:nzherald.co.nz

The first results refer to Santos consistently as a Republican but the second results don’t mention the Democrats. He’s just ‘former congressman Anthony Weiner’.

It’s all the little choices that add up to a large amount of bias.
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June 7, 2024 8:59am
- graham
  
  Words matter, and the way something is phrased can make an awful lot of difference.
  
  One example. In the coverage that I’ve seen of Trump’s trial over the last few weeks, Stormy Daniels is *ALWAYS* referred to as an “adult film actress”. Not once have I heard her described as a “porn star”.
  
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  June 7, 2024 9:12am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Have you seen her?
    He could have done better with a round of Bacardi and cokes at the New Plymouth cossie club.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:23am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Chris Luxon has been fooled by the activists, just as Ardern fooled NZ so the activists could really get started in NZ. Ardern may not have been that bright, but she never told the Country what she was going to do. She was tricky, secret, devious, dishonest.
Chris Luxon is showing similarities.
No good asking me what similarities – go watch the video.
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June 7, 2024 9:07am
Taieri

Beware of what you wish for, or The Wisdom of the Voters:

“Central Otago’s mayor has been called out of touch after suggesting struggling ratepayers could consider reverse mortgages as a way to pay a proposed rate increase of more than 18%.”

He was re-elected unopposed in 2022. The Jacinda Factor at work?

Pay-walled, unfortunately…

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/lost-touch-mayors-reverse-mortgage-idea-irks
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June 7, 2024 9:16am
Maggie Pie

Tried staying awake last night for the Women’s semi featuring Iga and Coco.
Unfortunately, the combination of a few wines, a gas fire, and the velvet Chaise, all became too much to handle. I fell asleep just before it began.

However, I did get to see the live ‘State-of-Origin’ match between Queensland & NSW. Why anyone would chose to play such a dangerous sport for 80 minits in torrential rain is beyond me! Mud and blood everywhere. It was just ridiculous 🙁
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June 7, 2024 9:20am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Steve Bannon going to prison July 1st.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-aide-steve-bannon-rages-as-he-s-ordered-to-prison-on-july-1/ar-BB1nL38p?
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June 7, 2024 9:27am
- NothingLeft
  
  He blew off a congressional subpoena, like Hunter Biden and Merrick Garland did. Though clearly it’s Diffe(R)ent in Bannon’s case.
  
  2 tier system of justice is reality in USA
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:37am
  - virtualmark
    
    Hunter Biden testified.
    
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    June 7, 2024 5:21pm
- virtualmark
  
  Interesting Steve that the judge that has run this case, and has finally had enough of Bannon delaying and has instructed him to turn himself in no later than 1 July … was appointed by Trump.
  
  Also, Bannon is scheduled to appear in another court case in September. And the judge in the case is … Judge Merchan. Fresh from the recent Trump trial.
  
  Bannon has to do 4 months in the clink for blowing off the subpoena. But presumably he’ll be out on some sort of release for the September trial, which will pause his 4 month sentence. So he’ll likely end up in Federal prison out beyond the election date.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:07pm
Rusty

Did Joe Biden say 1984 instead of 1944 at the D Day commemorations ?

Some of those WW2 veterans were amazing to listen to. On Fox one 104 year old sounded so clear and concise that he put Biden to shame.
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June 7, 2024 9:31am
- Beach Haven expat
  
  At least Biden could be bothered to attend.
  NZ may not have had specific troops landing on the beaches but we had Spitfire pilots and there were likely hundreds of Kiwis involved.
  Where was Luxon on this significant day that will likely be the final big anniversary for those D Day vets to be alive for?
  He was cosying up to Rabuka in Fiji – a man who led a military coup, the very type of action those troops were fighting.
  The deputy PM? In Vietnam.
  It looks like we were represented by one P Goff, who so infamously liked to spit at returning Vietnam veterans. He posted a tweet of being in Normandy. It is unreported if D Day veterans he met were spittle-free.
  Yes NZ’s future trade etc is important but it’s the 80th anniversary of D Day, a day that helped make the world what it is today. It wasn’t a surprise event that just popped up in the calendar.
  New Zealand stood shoulder to shoulder with its Allies throughout two world wars. Luxon’s effort amounted to a tweet pre-written by one of his social media team.
  Hugely disrespectful to our veterans, hugely disrespectful to our Allies’ veterans, hugely disrespectful to history.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:01pm
newview

The Willie and Goldie segment of the AM Show was pretty disgusting. Burr unleashed Jackson on the broken cancer drug promise. Goldie completely overrun even though the broken promise was caused by the Labour government. I switched channels but are certainly convinced the AM show won’t be missed now even though the opposition is boring to my mind.
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June 7, 2024 9:34am
- imalwaysright
  
  Goldsmith is weak as piss.
  He just sits there and giggles nervously at willie being “Willie”.
  After Willie bitchslapped him around the studio for ten minutes, Goldsmith congratulated Willie on his performance at Oxford !
  Spineless.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:31am
  - newview
    
    I don’t want Goldsmith to be like Jackson. If you’ve got to shout someone down to make your point it’s not a very strong point. The only weak as piss person there was Lloyd Burr.
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:46pm
I remember when

State of Origin:
Once again the officials will rule on the results of the tackle and largely ignore contributing factors.
The tackle was always going to be chest high so did have a risk element,
However, Walsh lowered his body to make his pass and then his feet slipped from under him.
The pass was always going to be made under pressure and the tackler did have a chance that they may have been able to prevent it.
All at high speed and with minimal reaction time.
Still must look as if they are doing their job rather than considering preventative actions.
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June 7, 2024 9:39am
Maggy Wassilieff

TV Doctor Michael Mosley missing

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/michael-mosley-missing-doctor-greece-search-symi-latest-b2557995.html
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June 7, 2024 9:53am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes, hopefully they find him. Hopefully he has not been abducted by fat aliens looking for some diet advise.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:06am
Maggie Pie

People are saying it’s quite a coincidence that Kiri, Golriz, and now TORY, were all able to come up with the same ‘mental-health diagnosis’ as an excuse for their behaviour.

Who will be next I wonder?
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June 7, 2024 10:18am
- Flossie
  
  Chloe has already got her mental health issues diagnosed and ready to roll hasn’t she? Was it ADHD or autism? Can’t recall.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, she’s let us know she’s ADHD.
    
    Honestly, these Green politicians need to get with the program…
    
    It’s neurodiversity these days.
    
    https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-neurodiversity-202111232645
    
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    June 7, 2024 10:46am
    - lifesgood
      
      ADHD my eye. It’s just a poor excuse for bad behaviour. I don’t buy any of it. How come when I was young all the kids in my class behaved? None of this syndrome nonsense. Now it seems every badly behaved, badly brought up kid can be excused by a syndrome or can claim neurodiversity stuff.
      
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      June 7, 2024 11:30am
  - mandk
    
    and poor Golriz has PTSD related to all those bombings she and her family had to endure before they fled Iran //
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:02am
- greybeard
  
  You have it around the wrong way: it is a pre-requisite for joining the Green Party, not a result.
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:41am
- kowtow
  
  It’s disgusting that senior politicians and power elites use “mental health” as an excuse when they get caught breaking the rules or norms of decent society.
  
  Pity the folk at the numerous mental health ngo’s ( and te legacy media paahti) aren’t vocal about this disgusting , belittling of genuine mental health sufferers .
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:44am
- MCōs
  
  You missed a few I can think of offhand
  Andrew Falloon, Jamie-Lee Ross, Todd Muller
  I’m sure there are plenty of others
  
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  June 7, 2024 10:57am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Oh hi cos…ment to ask you earlier whether you were caught in the crossfire yesterday? Reports dozens of houses in Mangere pepperd with gunshots 🙁
    
    Stay down & stay safe.
    
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    June 7, 2024 11:56am
    - graham
      
      From memory, MCos lives in Mangere Bridge, around the genteel areas nestled comfortably in between the waterside Kiwi Esplanade, Mangere Mountain, and the quaint little village.
      
      Which, as far as the residents are concerned, is roughly a million miles away from Mangere East, where the shots were reported.
      
      I suspect the kindly old dears and younger well-to-do mums and dads that live in Mangere Bridge tend to head across the bridge to Royal Oak and Epsom for their shopping requirements … in fact I don’t even think there’s a southbound on-ramp for SH20 from Rimu Road …
      
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      June 7, 2024 12:48pm
    - Albie
      
      Doesn’t Wee Willie live in cos’s ‘hood? He bought David Lange’s old digs from memory. They might even be neighbours! Fancy that!
      
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      June 7, 2024 5:20pm
      - MCōs
        
        You can ask me. I’m right here.
        
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        June 7, 2024 9:37pm
- imalwaysright
  
  “mental-health diagnosis”
  Note that they don’t describe themselves as mentally ill.
  A wee bit stigmatising perhaps?
  
  Meanwhile, genuinely sick people wait in the queue for treatment.
  
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  June 7, 2024 11:37am
rouppe

Eli Rubashkyn, aka Eliana Golberstein has pled guilty to the assault charges.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-assault-case-tomato-juice-protester-eli-rubashkyn-pleads-guilty/J4XEWQPOJZF4XP654KYDSJTX2Q/

But the lawyer is going for discharge without conviction.

And we have to wait another 3 months to find out what the judge will do
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June 7, 2024 12:37pm
graham

Posie Parker assault case: Tomato juice protester Eli Rubashkyn pleads guilty.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-assault-case-tomato-juice-protester-eli-rubashkyn-pleads-guilty/J4XEWQPOJZF4XP654KYDSJTX2Q/

Sentencing date is set for September 2.
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June 7, 2024 12:38pm
- mandk
  
  No wonder the Justice system costs so much.
  
  Why the three-month delay between guilty plea and sentencing?
  
  Surely it would be enough to hear the defence make a statement of mitigation before the judge retires for 15 minutes to consider the penalty.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:37pm
- Notsofast
  
  I note high praise from the judge for the defence submissions. This suggests this man will escape a conviction, although this may be problematic with the later charge of assault with a blunt instrument.
  It all sounds like male pattern violence.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:51pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    assault with a blunt instrument
    – describing any time a lar left activist engages in a battle of wits or debate.
    
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    June 7, 2024 2:21pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  “It’s a sorry indictment on the NZ legal system…..”
  
  – Simon Anderson (Citizen Journalist)
  
  WATCH
  
  https://x.com/SimonRAnderson/status/1798891366753456436
  
  (Thnx for all you do Simon)
  
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  June 7, 2024 2:17pm
  - SimonRAnderson
    
    You are welcome.
    
    Did you catch my other piece today about Auckland university? The events of this afternoon have overshadowed it a bit but fortunately, there’s more to come.
    
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    June 7, 2024 2:31pm
kiwikidsnz

“…it also effectively reneges on a commitment Prime Minister Anthony Albanese made to the government of New Zealand in 2022.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-07/giles-issues-new-ministerial-direction/103949446
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June 7, 2024 12:53pm
Maggie Pie

And see where ‘Godferys’ have gone into liquidation owing creditors 15 million+
PWC saying unsecured creditors are likely to get nuffing 🙁

That sucks!!
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June 7, 2024 1:10pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  They sucked before that too.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:32pm
  - newview
    
    😂
    
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    June 7, 2024 1:48pm
- mandk
  
  I see what you did there.
  
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  June 7, 2024 1:32pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, this article is about the closure and I think a few franchisees held on. Except for company names New Zealand doesn’t exist, just that other country.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2024/01/godfreys-group-enters-voluntary-administration-most-new-zealand-stores-to-be-closed.html
  
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  June 7, 2024 3:14pm
  - Country Air Ian.
    
    Newshub is on the way out.
    It is out of touch.
    The article refers to Aotearoa.
    Not even Aotearoa New Zealand.
    
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    June 7, 2024 4:20pm
    - Ghost
      
      if you think that is on the way out, expect it to be much much worse when stuff takes over
      
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      June 7, 2024 4:50pm
Ghost

Strange that there weren’t more articles like this the past several years. We would get the occasional waiting list article, but now it seems to be a lot more. I know when the points went up for hip and knee replacements one of the senior orthopaedic surgeons down here told us people will die before they get their replacements

Article

At least 85,000 New Zealanders a year are being turned away from seeing a specialist, some of them dying as a result, a University of Otago study has found.
The researchers have described it as a national scandal.

Perhaps the media can track down former minister Little and ask him just what the hell he did as health minister
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June 7, 2024 5:09pm
- Mike
  
  People have always died on waiting lists, and always will. The demand for medical care is unlimited, so must be managed by rationing.
  
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  June 7, 2024 5:25pm
  - Ghost
    
    No, people should not be dying waiting for a hip or knee replacement because the government had put the points up too high, sorry you find that acceptable. It’s not.
    
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    June 7, 2024 5:29pm
    - Country Air Ian.
      
      Its the result of socialized medicine, same problem in UK with NHS and others.
      
      Even China has a health insurance program from its Citizens!!!
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_universal_health_care
      
      Pharmac also cant keep up with ever increasing demands for “”government should pay”” ie the latest furor over some Cancer treatments.
      
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      June 7, 2024 9:13pm
    - MCōs
      
      I’m picking the day isn’t too far off when elective surgery such as joint replacement will be privatized with some sort of complex taxpayer subsidy that will require an army of public servants to figure out.
      
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      June 7, 2024 9:32pm
      - Ghost
        
        It would be the better way to do it. National pushed public waiting list for hip and knee through the private hospital here. They’re better equipped than public, which is stupid because it is the same surgeons doing it private as public.
        
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        June 7, 2024 9:39pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      I’m amused by the automatic take of some people that dying by rationing is more ethically acceptable than dying because you don’t have enough cash or your private insurer won’t cover the condition.
      
      When people die from the latter it’s held to be a high crime of capitalist society. But when you die in a socialist queue… meh!
      
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      June 7, 2024 9:59pm
      - Ghost
        
        The worst part is that Mike won’t comprehend, the surgeons down here were begging to be allowed to operate, instead they were told to take leave rather than push people up onto the list that needed the operations but weren’t meeting labours new points. People left to suffer in imaginable pain.
        
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        June 7, 2024 10:09pm
Ghost

Popcorn, get your popcorn

In a statement on Friday afternoon, acting Public Service Commissioner Heather Baggott confirmed she had called the heads of nine departments to a meeting as a “a first step to ensure that all relevant agencies are acting to examine the recent allegations”.

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Department bosses called to the meeting included the heads of Stats NZ, the Ministry of Health and Health New Zealand, the Ministry of Social Development, the Ministry of Justice, the Department of Internal Affairs, Te Puni Kōkiri, Oranga Tamariki and the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.

Police and the Electoral Commission also attended the meeting.
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June 7, 2024 5:17pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Do you really think these Public Service Chiefs are going to admit that they’ve had the wool pulled over their eyes?
  
  I think they’ve been called in to learn a new waiata and to ensure they’re singing in harmony.
  
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  June 7, 2024 5:29pm
  - Mike
    
    I think you’re wrong.
    
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    June 7, 2024 6:07pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Times have changed Mike…
      Today’s Public Service is a different beast to the Public Service of the 1980s.
      
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      June 7, 2024 8:24pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    NINE agency bosses?
    
    Surely all they need is ONE…..the SFO.
    
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    June 7, 2024 6:34pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  What a mess 🙁
  
  That is why it needs an independent inquiry. Otherwise it will be nine inquiries. All each agency will worry about is minimising damage to that agency.
  
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  June 7, 2024 5:50pm
- rouppe
  
  And every single one is going to say “I’ve looked at the data the Marae collected for us, and i can’t see any evidence it was copied”. 🙄
  
  Even if there were an enquiry with powers of compulsion, the guilty parties will just lie. A tiny bit of dirt might stick, but none of the serious stuff.
  
  Though it is interesting they’re going hard on David McCleod right now.
  
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  June 7, 2024 8:36pm
Inthe09

Suprise

“TVNZ has revealed it received more than 300 formal complaints about political editor Maiki Shermans coverage of a 1 News Verian poll – and has rejected them all”

Fortunately the number of people left watching that rubbish each night decreases every year.
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June 7, 2024 6:14pm
- graham
  
  And the people who ARE still watching it will now have a probably-not-very-high opinion of Ms Sherman’s reporting from now on.
  
  Every time Maiki Sherman appears, before she even opens her mouth she’s been judged by the viewers. It will take a very long period of time before she shakes off that “frothy and sensationalist” stigma.
  
  Every time we see Maiki Sherman’s face, we’ll be thinking, “Oh, I wonder if we have ANOTHER ‘nightmare poll‘ that will ‘absolutely rock the entire Parliament‘ – yeah right.”
  
  She won’t be living this down any time soon.
  
  (MSM) turbulence ahead – buckle up, brace for impact.
  
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  June 7, 2024 7:53pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  300? That’s just about everybody who watches TVNZ!
  
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  June 8, 2024 3:48am
Red

Nothing to see here?
The Co-Leaders of Te Pāti Māori have written to the Prime Minister, the Police Commissioner and Minister of Police seeking the Police lead an urgent investigation into the allegations made against Te Pāti Māori.

“Whilst we have welcomed the independent review initiated by Statistics New Zealand, we consider that given our knowledge, these allegations are frivolous but require police to sanction our view,” said Party President John Tamihere.

“We have asked the journalist to front with the evidence on behalf of those making the allegations. They have not.

“We welcome an immediate investigation into these allegations to once again prove our innocence, and to highlight the bias in media,” concluded Tamihere.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2406/S00035/te-pati-maori-write-to-pm-and-police-seeking-investigation.htm
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June 7, 2024 8:39pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I comment at this hour of Sat and will repeat some in the morning.
Stomach bug has been rife in this house and it hit me. In bed all day throwing up into a bucket. I have a good nurse!

Anyway, An angry Trump doubles down on some very worrying comments.
“Look, when this election is over, based on what they’ve done, I would have every right to go after them, and it would be easy because it’s Joe Biden,”
Things are different from 2016 when he refrained from charging Hillary. She cheated and still lost!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/an-angry-trump-doubles-down-on-some-very-worrying-comments/ss-BB1nOePf?
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June 8, 2024 1:03am
- Ghost
  
  Don’t eat your wife’s cooking when you’ve pissed her off……
  
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  June 8, 2024 1:11am
  - Keith White
    
    Especially if she was a contemporary of Mags Bennett…
    
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    June 8, 2024 2:49am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Probably why I divorced her. Have a partner now!
    
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    June 8, 2024 5:31am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Tuku Morgan puts his foot in it at the end.
‘The Treaty is a partnership between Maori and the Crown. You can not give those same rights to an immigrant to this Country.’ Or similar words.
There is a term for that, a term that Maori use often when there is no more arguments to debate. He knows that term very well.

Also forgot the video link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_20J1v6HsN4
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June 8, 2024 1:29am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Let’s have a bit of AI.

WATCH: What Trump’s Felony Convictions Could Mean for His Future.
Video 3.51.

https://rightsideoffers.com/thepoliticalmovement/watch-what-trumps-felony-convictions-could-mean-for-his-future/?
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June 8, 2024 1:33am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Activists Mourn Tiananmen Massacre Victims.

A good read.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/activists-mourn-tiananmen-massacre-victims-remind-world-of-ccps-brutal-legacy-5662152?
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June 8, 2024 1:39am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Rare and ‘unusual’ cancers appear to be linked to Covid.
IMO those involved with ‘gain of function’ in viruses and the funding of it need to start answering questions.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/health/other/rare-and-unusual-cancers-appear-to-be-linked-to-covid/ar-BB1nKHam?
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June 8, 2024 2:01am
- Keith White
  
  Bene Yu will be along shortly to tell us that these studies have already been debunked, as have all future studies…
  
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  June 8, 2024 2:50am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I} have not ventured into the ‘”gain of function’ allegations.
  
  However, as COVID can inflame multiple organs, it seems plausible that it can lead to cancer.
  
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10202899/
  
  No doubt it will take several more years for the picture to become clear.
  
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  June 8, 2024 7:54am
Red

It ain’t over ’til it’s over, Yogi….

Offering prize money to gold medallists at the Paris Olympics is discriminatory and goes against Olympic values, a committee says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-07/olympics-athletics-prize-money-olympic-champions-discriminatory/103953844
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June 8, 2024 2:51am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Something else I will move to GD later today:
Donald Trump made a D-Day speech where he did not mention the fallen much but he did turn it into about himself.
But it is different when the left do it. Most media missed this:

Hillary Clinton blasted over ‘sick and disgusting’ D-Day post.

She compared the fight against Nazi Germany to voting against Trump in November.
Seriously? The crazy woman has no idea! She has FREEDOM ffs. Germany was ousted from France with the help of the Americans. Talk about no respect.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/hillary-clinton-blasted-over-sick-and-disgusting-d-day-post/ss-BB1nP7oL?
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