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RockyJ

The Kiwiblog award for the most Woke organisation in Aotearoa this year goes to Sudima Hotels.

On LinkedIn the Human Resources Manager was pictured with a newly promoted team leader. Nice, except it was announced that she undertook her promotion interview “in her first language Te Reo”. This was facilitated for the interview panel by a translator.

The posting was followed by a large number of “wonderfuls, congrats, awws” from the largely female Human Resources luvvies who inhabit LinkedIn.

Give me a break. You can bet this was PR window dressing for Sudima to show off to the corporate market what a wonderfully progressive accomodation provider they are. Pure fakery.

God, corporations are shallow.
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May 12, 2024 8:09am
- Ghost
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  So what is your problem with that? That’s pretty tame compared to some companies in nz.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:10am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Could a migrrant from China or Cambodia or Holland have the interview conducted in their mother tongue via a translator??
    How about a second/third generation Samoan, Russian or Frenchman wanting the interview in the ancestral tongue?
    
    Te Reo is a language used by a very small minority in this country. It is of virtually no use in day to day interaction in most of NZ….
    
    Conducting the interview at a private corporation in this way is just ridiculous kowtowing to a narrative of Maori primacy in all matters
    
    People want to Korero in Te Reo in their personal lives – kapai E Hoa.
    
    But this bs being forced in to business and government is not a good idea – it is leading to staff disengagement and quite a bit of unhappiness
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:36am
    - Ghost
      
      Maybe, but there are companies doing far worse than this in nz, and pushing what they do on to their customers.
      
      Btw, this was done in private. Domino’s encourage their staff to greet customers in Māori, they have a Māori menu. So which is more woke out of those two?
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:43am
      - rouppe
        
        Domino’s encourage their staff to greet customers in Māori
        
        Are they free to not do so? Are there consequences for not doing so?
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:05am
      - Ghost
        
        Companies are free to do what they want, their customers will reply. But if you want to call a company the most woke in nz when it doesn’t even come close to being so then the poster needs to do better. Hell radio nz, newshub, tvnz are more woke In their little finger than his example
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:22am
      - Jack5
        
        The ownership trail of Sudima Hotels leads to Mauritius, an international tax haven.
        
        International tourists must provide a huge part of business for NZ hotels, especially those of the Sudima scale.
        
        English is the international language of tourism. The only reason to promote a remote indigenous language in an international hotel would be as a tourist gimmick.
        
        Regardless, whoever put the money, hot or legitimate, into Sudima through Mauritius, may have priorities that differ from those of typical NZ investors.
        
        https://www.icij.org/investigations/mauritius-leaks/treasure-island-leak-reveals-how-mauritius-siphons-tax-from-poor-nations-to-benefit-elites/
        
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        May 12, 2024 11:24am
  - Ghost
    
    Come on down voters, speak up
    
    The claim is this is the most woke company in nz
    
    They posted something to LinkedIn for their staff to see, they haven’t pushed it on Facebook or twitter, they didn’t push it to the msm.
    
    If you are going to claim a company is the most woke in nz then you have to do better than this dribble.
    
    Spark who jump on every cause, push it through their social media platform, in their adverts are more woke in their little finger than this company.
    
    Government departments who require you know irrelevant shit about Māori are more woke than this company
    
    This is a piss poor attempt to call a company woke when they wouldn’t even come close to some of what goes down in nz
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:40am
    - Dougal10
      
      You better check there are still steps under you on that ladder .
      
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      May 12, 2024 10:49am
      - Ghost
        
        So then come on, tell me why this is the most woke organisation in NZ?
        
        How about having to say a karakia before going out to pull weeds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c-ZXgvJcQY
        
        How about spark who push transgender through to their customers, banning people from their Facebook who do not support their woke behaviour of a staff member . Or about the woke attitude of radio nz, newshub, tvnz.
        
        You would have to be stupid to call what this company did anywhere close to being the most woke organisation in nz, they wouldn’t even be in the top 20
        
        Hell the nz police force under labour make this hotel chain look like amateurs
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:58am
      - Ghost
        
        Or how about a council spending $70,000 on a Māori app for its staff
        
        Article
        
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        May 12, 2024 11:22am
      - Notsofast
        
        Read Muriel Newman for the depraved successes of the cunning part Maori controlling the country
        
        https://www.nzcpr.com/unwinding-labours-agenda/
        
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        May 12, 2024 11:29am
  - RockyJ
    
    My problem is that it is a lie. You can guarantee te Reo is not her first language. You can also guarantee that if there was no assessment of her ability to communicate in any language likely to be used by her customers then the interview was also a fake exercise.
    
    There is a problem when we come to accept lying as just the normal way we do things.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:43am
    - Ghost
      
      Maybe, but open your eyes and you will see far worse than this company. You want to claim that because they did this they are the most woke in nz, you must not have any idea what other companies do in this country, this is minor, tame, doesn’t even rate. This was something they aren’t pushing out, you had to go searching for it. Not on their Facebook, their twitter, not in the media, just something shared with their employees on LinkedIn.
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:48am
      - RockyJ
        
        Cool. Give us some examples
        
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        May 12, 2024 9:49am
      - Ghost
        
        I’ve given you three examples, dominos and spark, you can also look at the almost daily posts from Benedict of requirements for different state jobs. and if you want more you can look at how 2degrees and one nz virtual signal towards every cause as well. If you want to call this company the most woke in nz because of this, you haven’t notice a fraction of what other companies are doing
        
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        May 12, 2024 9:53am
      - ISeeRed
        
        Thou doth protest too much, methinks.
        
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        May 12, 2024 2:21pm
      - Ghost
        
        Me thinks people who think this is the most woke company in nz are idiots who have no idea what companies are doing in nz if this is the best they can come up with
        
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        May 12, 2024 2:25pm
      - julesnzuk
        
        Jesus, Ghost – chill out. The commenter is just making the (very valid) point that it’s performative nonsense for the purposes of virtue signalling (quite why it’s considered to be virtuous is beyond me) and – as pointed out by others – almost certainly a blatant lie. No need to get on your high horse about which companies are more “woke” (a stupid Americanism that belies the true seriousness of this stuff).
        
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        May 13, 2024 5:15am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    For a start, I’ll bet a pound to a pinch of goat poo that it’s a lie. First language? I sincerely doubt it. If the child was solely taught an until-recently unwritten stone-age language with marginal utility in the hotel business, she was greatly disadvantaged by her solo mother.
    
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    May 13, 2024 2:12am
- Benedict Yu
  
  What would she do if she insisted on communicating with the hotel customers in her first language Te Reo?
  
  I bet we would see a less happy situation.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:26am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    the question is, of what benefit is to the company to have an employee that is conversant in Te Reo?
    
    I can understand if they had Mandarin and Cantonese speakers, even French and German.
    
    I imagine that the number of Te Reo speakers that do not speak english is Zero, so the only benefit to the company is intangible and non monetary.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:54am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      If you have experience in 4 and 5 star hotels and can speak Mandarin you have a job wherever you want globally. I doubt that te reo gets you far.
      
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      May 12, 2024 10:53am
    - ISeeRed
      
      I love hearing part-Maori parents speaking basic te reo to their kids when shopping and their tamariki replying in English. Even they know it’s BS.
      
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      May 12, 2024 2:22pm
  - Ghost
    
    If they did they might start to be like domino’s
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/dominos-reveals-maori-language-menu-urges-staff-to-speak-te-reo-maori/5PLXKR5CR5DEZKUUSHNACS3DVI/
    
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    May 12, 2024 12:18pm
    - John Loveridge
      
      None of this will improve their appalling pizzas.
      
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      May 12, 2024 6:19pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      If I were you, I’d work on your basic English and grammar before touting other languages.
      
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      May 13, 2024 2:13am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        If I were you, I’d work on ~~your~~ my basic English and grammar before touting other languages.
        FIFY
        
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        May 13, 2024 7:09am
    - julesnzuk
      
      Simple – boycott the place. No one is forced to buy their food and if customers are irritated by the performative use of Maori language as a virtue signalling exercise then they are free to go elsewhere. I would.
      
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      May 13, 2024 5:18am
  - Jack5
    
    Regardless of which company you think is NZ’s most Woke, what about Wokeness in the entertainment world?
    
    Nemo Mettler, the Swiss rapper who has just won Eurovision 2024 describes ~~himself~~ “themselves” as gender non-binary and uses they/them/their pronouns.
    
    Gender controversy was lost in the background of demonstrations in Malmo against the Israeli singer Eden Golan, one of the favourites.
    
    Woke controversy was also overwhelmed by the disqualification of another favourite, the Dutch musician, Joost Klein, whose songs mix pop with hyperfast beats.
    
    The event organiser, the European Broadcasting Union, said it was investigating an incident involving the Dutch artist. On Saturday morning, a Swedish police spokeswoman said officers were investigating a man “suspected of unlawful threats” toward a Eurovision employee.
    
    Background of Nemo, the winner:
    
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/eurovision/nemo-eurovision-2024-switzerland-the-code-lyrics-b2543324.html
    
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    May 12, 2024 12:28pm
    - Ghost
      
      Oh there is worse than that jack, there is the British guy who changed his ethnicity to South Korean.
      
      https://news.sky.com/story/oli-london-british-influencer-defends-identifying-as-korean-after-surgery-to-look-like-bts-star-12344765
      
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      May 12, 2024 1:04pm
- Jethrod
  
  The Sudima has been pressured by a clever applicant. As well as having an interpreter, who when making there take on answers can alter words ,phrases, sentences to suit the applicant.
  Like having to people applying for the job. Also perhaps the Sudima could face legal action if they didn’t appoint a Maori to fill the spot.
  A lot of suppositions but still an angle.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:29am
- Dougal10
  
  I don’t know if it most woke but certainly infested. Got an email introducing my new fertilizer rep. Apparently american origin has worked for lots of woke pseudo govt organisations and the first opening introduction was in te-reo. I think I will be doing my own fert recommendations and ordering until they move on , which is about every 2 years when the go to insurance or regional council type jobs
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:46am
- Paulus
  
  Fortunately we do not have to use Sudima Hotels
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:04am
- lifesgood
  
  Note to self, never stay at Sudima.
  
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  May 12, 2024 1:15pm
- The Housekeeper
  
  Hardly surprising. Sudima and Ngai Tahu are mates. They have a flash new hotel in Kaikoura and have made a big deal of hiring Maori staff.
  It’s just business for Sudima. What would you do for access to the best hotel sites in the South Island?
  
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  May 12, 2024 1:21pm
- bennerg
  
  Followed shortly after by Hamilton City Council with their $70K app to teach staff Te Reo.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/05/councillor-questions-spending-70-000-on-te-reo-m-ori-app-for-staff.html
  
  Reminds me some years ago a major DHB budgeted for development of each in service training course at about $1k per course – they used in house nurse educators. When ToW was compulsory, they outsourced this at a cost of $60k, just for the one course!
  
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  May 12, 2024 3:08pm
  - John Loveridge
    
    A council at it again! Spending ratepayers’ money on bullshit.
    
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    May 12, 2024 6:17pm
softail 1450

“The war in Ukraine is all but over ,the Russians have called NATO and the US’s bluff, that’s it” *The Duran* just now ,
I’m not sure if it’s that cut and dried but the writing on the wall is in large undeniable letters, oh well what’s another 800,000 dead young men and 100s of billions of dollars spent ? as Lynsey Graham says “It’s the best money the USA has spent for decades ,Russia humiliated and not one American soldiers life lost” the POS,😢😢😢😢
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May 12, 2024 8:19am
- Simon
  
  Why didn’t all those NZ losers hot for war go and help Ukraine out?
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:13am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Why is Graham a piece of shit for commenting correctly on an application of global power against a major adversary?
  
  The US will pour more in to bleed Russia further – and CHina will cheer them on, as China has eyes on the far east portion of the Russian Federation.
  
  Putin is playing a very dangerous game – he may win a tactical victory in Ukraine. Not sure he will to be frank as NATO will ramp up supplies over summer months
  
  But strategically he has:
  
  > Shown Russia to be an unreliable economic partner for Europe. Long term those markets maybe replaced by China and India, but Western Europe is where the really profit margins are
  > Shown the Finns and Swedes that NATO membership is 100% in their interested due to the attack one, attack all provision in the NATO Treaty document
  > Bleed Russia of a lot of its elite troops and used up a lot of its best weaponry
  > Allowed the US and NATO to see Russian battlefield tactics and logistics capability. They are vulnerable to a full US military operation if they ever confront the US, as part of NATO or one one one
  > Demonstrate to all Russian mothers that their sons are mere cards to play and lose in service of Putins ambition.
  
  Ukraine v Russia is going to rumble on for years. All the talk of quick victories or decisive wins on the field by some pundits are contradicted by others.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:22am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    PRC wants the Far East and Vladivostok back. Seceded in an unequal treaty like all the others in mid 1800’s.
    
    PRC could walk in and take the bloody lot and we would see a lovely war between Russia and the PRC.
    
    Ideal tank country.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:31am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Indeed.
      
      There is a lot of resentment towards Russia in the PRC.
      
      PRC and CCCP had a number of border skirmishes – Sino Soviet broder war 1969 being the big one.
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:38am
      - jkt
        
        If there was ever a good time for the PRC it is now.
        If they do, will Japan leverage off that?
        
        The PRC may well be biding their time before they strike. Interesting to note that China is on a charm offensive in Europe focussing on the east.
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:56am
    - Jake Dee
      
      The idea that China is seeking to seize Russian territory in the Far-East is a Western fantasy.
      Nobody ever bothers to answer why they would do it except for postulating some sort of weird nationalist Chinese resentment about events that happen two centuries and a couple of dynasties and empires ago.
      So why would Beijing go to war with Moscow?
      They would lose their strongest and largest ally, lose trillions of dollars, possibly millions of men, open up a +2000km border to attacks and counter attacks from Russia all while Indian forces are in the Himalayas to the west and the US Navy is in the Pacific to the east.
      Their massive project for the 21st century, The Belt and Road plan, to link up right across Eurasia would be ruined.
      Ideal tank country? This isn’t the days of Genghis Khan and the steppe warriors, when you could gather your forces and go charging across the land for weeks without opposition. This is the age of atomic weapons, intercontinental missiles and satellite surveillance. Tank armies can be spotted in seconds and stopped in minutes from the other side of the globe.
      And we still haven’t considered Why? What would be the benefit for Beijing in doing such a thing? Is it to gain the oil, gas and minerals that Russia is already selling to them as fast as it can dig them out of the ground? Or is it that the Chinese people wish to move their shrinking population from the massive cities of the warm south into the wastelands of the freezing north?
      It’s all madness.
      
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      May 12, 2024 4:04pm
      - JimBobJoe
        
        If you think the PRC doesnt want its old territories back you are seriously deluded…..
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:45pm
  - marcw
    
    To your last point I agree, Russia is surely entering into a repeat of it’s Afghanistan failure. They will never survive the coming years of internal patriotic resistance in Ukraine. After Putin is gone, so will Russia’s occupation end. What a waste – all for one man’s narcissistic ambition.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:58am
  - Jake Dee
    
    Russia is going to win in Ukraine and win big.
    The will annex territories, move their borders westwards, dispose, liquidate or exile Zelensky and his faction and create a demilitarized buffer zone in rump Ukraine.
    New Russian territories in the east will be quickly repaired by enthusiastic workers and paid for by profits from gas and minerals. Rump Ukraine in the west will be rebuilt slowly by EU/USA charity and paid for with deficit spending.
    Russia will end up with a larger, stronger, more experienced military. Their economy will also be larger, more productive and insulated from any financial sanctions that the West might wish to try against it in the future.
    Their society and politics will be purged of West lending liberals, Orthodox nationalist will be stronger and Putin even more popular.
    China seizing territory in the Russian far-East is a fanciful Western dream, as will be explained below.
    
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    May 12, 2024 3:35pm
    - KH
      
      Fully agree Jake. Within the limits of a crystal ball.
      
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      May 12, 2024 5:09pm
    - softail 1450
      
      Jake Dee, excellent comments ,it amazes me how many people get their international news from CNN ABC and MSNBC , they probably believed every word RNZ and Stuff told them about Jacinda Ardern and her untalented useless government as well.
      
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      May 13, 2024 4:40am
  - softail 1450
    
    JBJ, Is that you Lynsey ? 👍👍
    
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    May 13, 2024 4:36am
- Maxx
  
  The US learned the economic benefits of forward funding war a century ago. And in this instance the majority of their funding has been both weapons that were about to be retired and newer systems which they now have priceless data on real world performance. Not to mention the economic benefits US industry will gain from the Ukraine rebuild which will be in the trillions.
  
  The average Joe sees a waste of money – the US sees aong term investment… along with the geopolitics.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:16am
- NothingLeft
  
  Yeah, Russia has run out of hardware. Can’t muster significant numbers of tanks or armoured personnel carriers for assaults anymore, down to desperate scraping together barely functional left over antiques, and have nearly run out of artillery too. Result being that they are taking huge losses now in offense, using motorbikes and golf carts to try and aid their meat wave assaults while ever more advanced drones (now with terminal AI targeting to beat jamming) pick them off.
  
  And new US mil aid package has seen Russian bombers start to get taken out again, curtailing their major recent advantage in glide bombs, while long range ballistic ATACMS are allowing Ukraine to strike major bases 1-200km from front line pushing back air bases and reducing sortie rates. Ukraine has also now got shells to hit Russia hard which they had been short on for last 6 months.
  
  On other side Ukraine is running out of infantry. But longer range high tech stand-off weaponry helps that a lot. Still might be the limiting factor for Ukraine’s defense. But if they can escalate their deep strike drone production they will subject Russia to withering cost (destroying Russian oil refineries, pipelines, power stations and transformers, bridges and rail is cheapest way to end war)
  
  I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin calls time on war soon. Cost of gains made is escalating, they’ve almost exhausted their military hardware and their offense has nearly culminated.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:47am
  - BananaLlama
    
    Back to the delusions that Russia is fighting with shovels again are we? This is why we find ourselves in a losing war in the first place. If we don’t take our adversary seriously he is going to take the entire of Ukraine while commentators yap on about ATACM Missiles or F-16 or Abrams Wunder Weapons that America decide to send in limited supply.
    
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    May 12, 2024 1:05pm
    - softail 1450
      
      BananaLlama, you forgot the the man who had the West in raptures for weeks on end “the ghost of Kyiv “ who single handedly shot down multiple 4th generation Russian fighter jets in his 50 years old mig fulcrum jet or the female sniper that had Russian soldiers crying to their Mummy’s and let’s not for the using of washing machine parts to build Kinzhal hypersonic missiles😂😂it’s been an endless lie foisted on the taxpayers of the countries sending billions of dollars to one of the most corrupt countries in living memory…
      
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      May 13, 2024 4:54am
  - softail 1450
    
    Nothing left , good grief 😂😂😂😂😂…
    
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    May 13, 2024 4:43am
Maggy Wassilieff

Some facts about NZ society that don’t make the headlines:

97 percent of Maori aged 15 or older are not in prison or serving a community sentence or order. Over 99 percent of Maori are not gang members.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/lindsay-mitchell-time-for-some-perspective
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May 12, 2024 8:26am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Who would downtick that progressive news?
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:38am
- Inandout
  
  Maggy, yet I suspect 50% of Maori have relatives who have been on the wrong side of the law.
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:40am
  - MCōs
    
    I’ve appeared in court so that’s hundreds of relatives come within that category
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:16am
  - Paulus
    
    But we still do not know how many people call themselves Maori, as this is not contained in the last two censuses, but are made up totals, and now the Census people want to do the whole job by themselves so we can expect more analytical lies.
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:09am
    - Flossie
      
      When there is not full participation in a census there’s no value in spending millions to have one. They might as well guess.
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:52am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Wow. But I have read many times in Kiwiblog comments that NZ would not have any crime problem if Māori just stopped committing crimes.
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:42am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I doubt that. Maori commit about half of all violent crime.
    
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    May 12, 2024 8:47am
    - Mike
      
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      Only reporting ‘Kiwiblog wisdom’.
      
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      May 12, 2024 8:56am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Really Mike I’ve been hanging around here for a number of years and whilst I obviously haven’t read every comment that’s ever been posted I check in most days and can’t recall ever reading anything even remotely claiming any such thing. You really do post some BS Mike which is a shame.
    
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    May 12, 2024 8:50am
  - cmm
    
    If Maori, and to a lesser extent Polynesians in general, offended at “white” rates then we could close almost half our prisons.
    That is not opinion. That is fact.
    Even better if we all offended at Chinese rates.
    
    Since the “Maori” in question are primarily of European genetics, this is not a race/genetic issue. It is a cultural issue.
    
    You’d think Maori would be the most keen to address this issue and call out the gangs amongst their midst. After all, they are also the most likely to be victiims.
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:59am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Māori social statistics show similar patterns to other colonized peoples. Attempts by aboriginal peoples to find their own solutions are almost automatically opposed by the democratic majorities of settler societies.
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:12am
      - cmm
        
        Implicit in your thinking is that they were good until colonization “broke” them.
        
        This is completely wrong.
        
        Most colonized people were doing very well when colonized and the wheels have fallen off since “liberation”.
        
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        May 12, 2024 2:29pm
      - Mike
        
        I don’t think we need to classify societies on a spectrum from bad to good.
        Every conqueror since forever has imagined himself to be doing the right thing, and quire frequntly pretended that conquest was the best thing for the conquered.
        
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        May 12, 2024 2:37pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Ureweras’ and East Cape show how well near exclusively Maori enclaves function (hint some of worst social dysfunction stats in country), they’d be insta-third world in absence of welfare payments that prop up their communities.
        
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        May 12, 2024 4:33pm
      - julesnzuk
        
        Colonised. Funny how a lot of dumb Americanisms creep into leftist commentary.
        
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    - imalwaysright
      
      Maori have been conned by their own so called leaders.
      What sort of leadership encourages dependency on welfare and gives tacit approval to engaging in crime?
      What sort of leadership tells people they aren’t capable of being educated and getting better jobs?
      Maori leadership are the true racists.
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:23am
      - John Loveridge
        
        Maori leaders are corrupt and self-serving top.
        
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        May 12, 2024 6:26pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  The author is minimising a real problem.
  
  Nicaragua has by far the highest imprisonment rate globally. At 1 percent.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
  
  99 percent of folk in Nicaragua are not in prison. However I would not be going there on holiday.
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:45am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    No Ben.
    
    Lindsay Mitchells point was that most Maori are just living their lives and obeying the law.
    
    If you have read her pieces regularly you will know she is primarily data driven and regularly calls out that a small sub-strata of the Maori population cause huge problems in the criminal domain, are over represented in negative stats.
    
    Lindsay is not minimising any problem whatsoever – she has just posted a positive message to counter the utter tripe trotted out by TMP and Greens about how Maori are under privileged and its all whiteys fault
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:27am
    - wsk12345
      
      Yeah makes you wonder why colonialism doesn’t affect 97% of Maori. Are they all “the wrong kind of Maori”?
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:37am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Thanks for that.
      
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      May 12, 2024 10:23am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yep Jimbobjoe has summarised Lindsay’s Article well
        
        It feels safe to say that most people want to live peaceful, happy and productive lives. We share those basic desires regardless of race. It’s that commonality that makes race irrelevant.
        
        And yet New Zealanders are being increasingly divided, forced to take sides, to figuratively identify with black or white when life is mainly grey.
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:37am
    - cmm
      
      ” most Maori are just living their lives and obeying the law.”
      
      Certainly. And Maori are much more likely to be victims of crime than non-Maori.
      
      So why are they not being a bit more vocal in stamping out gangs etc? Why are they letting TPM, Labour and Green crim-huggers get away with what they do?
      
      We keep on hearing that toughened laws are “racist” and “anti-Maori” etc. Bullshit. They are pro-Maori.
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:03am
      - grumpy
        
        TPM is lucky to get up to 3% of the vote. They rely on the racial seats for their numbers in parliament.
        With 17% identifying as Maori, TPM has less than 20% support within Maori.
        
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        May 12, 2024 1:57pm
- Souvlaki
  
  Very good to have this perspective presented.
  IMO, the bellicose, self agrandising bile spewing from the Maori “hierachy”(pfft😂) is responsible for most of the rising disquiet towards the race as a whole.
  Those WITH a criminal tendency, are emboldened to commit crime ,partially BECAUSE of the bullshit “warrior speak” comming from TPM, & the equally deluded Waitangi Tribunal who thrive on grievance more than anything else.!
  Neither of these groups has the insight or wit to reflect on this fact!🧐
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:46am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    The Waitangi tribunal have an obvious conflict of interest. Once all the grievance has been sorted they would have to pack up and sack themselves. A bit like the permanent members of the UN Security Council who also happen to be the five largest arms manufacturers so not so interested in peace but just talking about it and cashing the pay cheques.
    
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    May 12, 2024 8:57am
    - Paulus
      
      The Tribunal appear to think that they are a Paramount Government in itself, as we are now seeing.
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:12am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Some of the pathetic joking that was shown on the news must be halted, w the hell do they think they are
        
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        May 12, 2024 11:49am
- slightlyrighty
  
  and yet, certain groups benefit from a narrative that continues to paint Non-Maori as the architect of the misfortunes of the Maori people, and, as such, absolving Maori of responsibility for their own misfortunes.
  
  In perpetuating the Oppressor/Oppressed narratives by spouting such falsehoods as the current government looking to commit genocide against the Maori people, Groups like TPM are not helping Maori help themselves.
  
  The only thing sadder than TPM Claiming that the Government want to exterminate Maori, it the lack of assertiveness from this government, and Luxon in particular, in calling out this utter bullshit for what it actually is.
  
  He should be angry at this.
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:55am
  - pdm
    
    sr – hard to understand why Speaker Brownlee did not stop her and make her withdraw and apologise.
    If she refused then she was surely gone from The House for the rest of the day.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:30am
    - rouppe
      
      He didn’t do that because he would then be susceptible to accusations of censorship.
      
      I’m happy what she said is in the public domain.
      
      I’m not happy that politicians in government haven’t been more vocal in calling that hate speech, contemptible rhetoric, disgraceful… Anything but the piss weak rebuttals we’ve had to date.
      
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      May 12, 2024 10:30am
      - pdm
        
        He would not have stopped her saying it because his intervention would have been after the words were uttered.
        
        It was however unparliamentary language surely!!!
        
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        May 12, 2024 11:25am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I think it would have needed a complaint from the floor, main thing is I think that vulgarity we are seeing in the house is actually helping the government, look at the recent poll, TPM lost 40% of their support from the last poll, Genter has pissed people off as yet another green nutbar self destructs, yes their 4% went back to Labour, but people now see clearly what a lurch back to Hipkins and the tripartite coalition of losers
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:55am
  - 3-coil
    
    slightlyrighty: the Maori Party race-baiters’ naïvety lets them down again. They are as dumb as the ‘boy who cried wolf’ with their histrionic wailings of government genocide against our Maori members of the New Zealand citizenry. And they themselves really only draw attention to the one full-scale real genocide to have ever occurred in NZ – the genocide by our native Maori people of the pacifist Moriori people of the Chatham Islands. Truly a textbook genocide, but it’s never mentioned.
    In this instance Mariemeno Kapa-Kingi should instead be discussing and seeking atonement for the inconvenient truth of the Moriori extermination (by her own people) before she can claim to have a role as a valid mangai for maori today on any matters of “genocide”. It is repulsively insensitive to the true historical victims of our genocide here in New Zealand, to hear this treated as a political football – by descendants of those who actually committed these documented genocidal atrocities and crimes. That was truth…. not the low-IQ racist political-soundbites of the NZ MaoriParty.
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:58am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Good, TPM and greens showing the country the alternative
      
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      May 12, 2024 12:08pm
- pdm
  
  Maggy about the same 97% of Maori also abhor the activism that has been present around the Treaty of Waitangi and the Maorification of New Zealand in recent years.
  
  Which is why The Maori Party only get about 2.5% to 3.5% of the party vote at General Elections.
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:57am
  - newview
    
    PDM I suspect if they weren’t led by the Debbie and Rawiri red neck show they would do much better. I’m surprised that the “normal “ Maori population who may want a balanced Maori party haven’t pushed for better.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:14am
    - pdm
      
      nv – from the ouside looking in at the Maori Party it seems it is run by the two you mention with the big noise being Rawiri’s father in law John Tamahere.
      
      The rest are followers which is why sensible Maori, yours and my Maori friends of longstanding, are on the General Roll.
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:34am
    - wsk12345
      
      Because the “ normal Maori” don’t see the need for a racially divided party perhaps?!
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:38am
      - pdm
        
        wsk – exactly.
        
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        May 12, 2024 11:27am
      - Flossie
        
        As a part Maori (I am always careful to note the “part”) I refuse to participate in apartheid like behaviour. My ancestors were not only Maori but also “Colonialists” and one only side appears to be calling the shots in this country right now.
        
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        May 12, 2024 12:03pm
  - cmm
    
    If the Maori party get 3.5% of the party vote then that’s a still a pretty huge number.
    
    The Maori roll is about 10% of the voter base of whole of NZ, so for them Maori party to get 3.5% is pretty high.
    
    Of course most Maori who care little about Maori nationalism will likely sign up for the general roll.
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:12am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Te Racist Parti vote is mostly young non-Maori women. Ie the normal support demographic for far left.
      
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      May 12, 2024 1:13pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They have never got to 3 at an election, they have polled up there, but people who party vote Māori in a poll (the young, the shit stirrer in a poll) either don’t vote, or they wake up at election time. 2.2 is about as much as I remember
    
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    May 12, 2024 12:11pm
- Michael Sommerville
  
  I guess if we are reporting in this manner then it would also be correct to say that 99.5% of the Caucasian, Chinese and Indian population are not in prison or serving a community sentence or order.
  
  Sorry, but I am not going to do the research to prove the point but I am sure you get the drift.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:00am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  There are around 8,000 Māori gang members out of a Maori population of 800,000. But the 800,000 includes children and old people. Most gang members are male aged between 20 and 40. So of that subset, it will more like 5 to 7%. Which I think is a high percentage and is a real concern. Way too many children will be growing up with a gang influence in their lives.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:59am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    It is a strange day. I agree with Mr Mapp for once to a certain degree.
    
    Its even worse though Wayne because fangs [gangs] are overwhelmingly locate in working class suburbs and hurt working class people, especially Maori people.
    
    Its why the just another whanau bs trotted out by politicans like Sharples et al are so hard to understand. Its validating harm perpetrated on Maori by gang thugs as normal.
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:24am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The picture is exacerbated by the growing number of young Maori as a proportion of the population.
    
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/11/27/nzs-demographic-divide/
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:50am
  - cmm
    
    Wayne, is it really just 8000 (or 10000)? Maybe that is just patched members?
    
    But as you say those numbers are from a small slice of the population (males, 20 to 35 or so) – just like prison population. Their girlfriends and the 14 year olds that do their bidding probably don’t show up in that 8 or 10, 000 count but really are gangsters too.
    
    Still, even 2% is a huge number. 7% is of course way worse. The impact of crime is non-linear. A society with 98% non-criminals and 2% criminals is still a high crime society. A society with 7% criminals is a huge problem.
    
    Worse yet is the trajectory we are on. Crime is going up.
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:21am
  - MCōs
    
    How many gang members are not Māori?
    Denis O’Reilly, for example
    Plus there’s plenty of people who detractors would call Māori for the purposes of gang numbers and non-Māori at other times when it suits
    
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    May 12, 2024 1:19pm
  - grumpy
    
    That is a higher proportion of Maori that ate gang members than vote for TPM.
    They can’t even get the gang vote.
    
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    May 12, 2024 2:03pm
    - MCōs
      
      Why should they?
      No political party has the right to expect allegiance from any particular faction of our society
      Single interest parties never do well in NZ, because people don’t generally vote on single interests
      
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      May 12, 2024 2:58pm
      - Mike
        
        TPM might be the most successful single issue party so far,or at least since Ratana captured the ‘four pillars’ in 1943.
        
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        May 12, 2024 3:24pm
      - MCōs
        
        I’d have thought the Māori seats obviates the need for a single interest Māori Party
        Except the Māori Party gives a chance to those not on the Māori roll to cast a vote in mainstream seat
        Didn’t one of our preeminent disk jockeys think only those on the Māori roll could vote for the Māori Party?
        
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        May 12, 2024 5:37pm
      - Mike
        
        The royal commission recommended abolishibg the Maori seats inder MMP.
        
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        May 12, 2024 5:42pm
alex Masterley

Aurora Borealis – stunning.
And Auckland v Hurricanes last night.
Great game.
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May 12, 2024 8:32am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Aurora australis
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:35am
  - Michael Sommerville
    
    Actually the Aurora Borealis was spectacular last night. I have this from friends and family in the Northern Hemisphere. You are correct that the one we saw was Aurora Australis. 😉
    
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    May 12, 2024 8:55am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Northern Hemisphere, Summer closer to sun ( Declination) , Which at a Guess due too Earth being a Spheroid would put best viewing 40S and 60 N etc as a guestimate.
      Heightened by a weakened Magnetic Field.
      
      Incidently there was a Major Mass Corona ejection early this year but fortunately not at Earth, This one appears to be pointing close to Earth.
      
      An interesting side note, Is I cant wait for this too be “Some how” attributed to Climate Change // , Incidently it sort of is.
      
      Magnetic Field has been weakening over the last century and Magnetic North has been moving at a rapid rate. ( Magnetic North / South ) are what would dictate “Optimum” viewing of this event.
      
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      May 12, 2024 9:35am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Pole reversal?
        
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        May 12, 2024 10:37am
      - Master Mariner
        
        @ Imalwaysright.
        Pole reversal. There has been a lot of debate about this scientificaly but there appears too be no clear idea yet.
        The latest is down to 2 Big Blobs of Molten core ?? Too be honest Im buggered if anyone really knows.
        However it about 30% ? less Magnetism than 100+ years ago. This is what keeps Solar radiation away from earth. ( And why we get N/S Lights) .
        There should be a Good show on tonight too.
        
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        May 12, 2024 2:21pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Ok you spotted the deliberate mistake. well done.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:40am
    - John Loveridge
      
      Excellent comeback there Alex. You got us all. 😉
      
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      May 12, 2024 6:33pm
- Positan
  
  Aurora Australis, surely?
  
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  May 12, 2024 8:36am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Aurora Australis was amazing, and the Landers stood up to the Crusaders.
  
  Boreal is is northern hemisphere as I remember.
  
  It’s quite strange, we have not seen much Aurora till the last couple of years, I remember late 60s and 70s seeing it every night when clear skies. It’s quite strange, no climate change when we had Aurora back then, we are getting Aurora now, and every time it turns southerly down here it is extremely cold, snow has been reported well down quite a few times the last 6 weeks, I think k this winter is going to be cold
  
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  May 12, 2024 12:18pm
  - Jack5
    
    From the Herald:
    
    MetService meteorologist Clare O’Connor said the stunning visual display was an uncommon sight for New Zealanders, but even more so for those in the Far North.
    
    She can’t know that the third biggest island of NZ, Stewart Island, has the Maori name Rakiura – Land of the Glowing Sky – because of the aurora Australis.
    
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    May 12, 2024 4:10pm
Benedict Yu

Aurora australis
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May 12, 2024 8:36am
Benedict Yu

Just when you thought that I had run out of state sector job stories…

Te Manatū Waka is advertising for a “Deputy Chief Executive – Policy.” Te Manatū Waka is not the NZTA. It is what used to be called the “Ministry of Transport.” This is a position that pays $400,000 – $450,000.

https://www.seek.co.nz/job/75748190?type=standout&ref=search-standalone&origin=cardTitle#sol=8f36fc889453408c0d1fbbabed33a31503f92fa7

The job is a second-tier manager, so a very senior position. This person manages the “Policy Group.”

“The Policy Group leads the provision of robust and pragmatic policy advice on many of our key priorities, translating long term strategic priorities into practical policy interventions.” OK kind of word soup but I get the picture. ☹ They advise the Government on transport.

What qualifications do you need?

Well astonishingly, you do not need to know anything about transport. There is no mention of such knowledge in the selection criteria. No, I am not making that up.

However, you do need:

1. An understanding of Te Reo
2. An understanding of Tikanga (Māori customary practices or behaviours); and
3. An understanding of Matauranga Māori (Māori knowledge and practice)

1, 2, and 3 are mandatory criteria. You must meet them. As a result, I would say that the potential pool of candidates for this job is few in number ☹ .
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May 12, 2024 9:10am
- Cassandra
  
  What on earth will this (highly paid) person do? Attend hui? Liaise with hapu? Carry the koha bag? Staggering, stupid, racist waste of our money. Meantime my uninsured brother waited 5 months to see an oncologist after GP diagnosed prostate cancer.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:33am
  - Jethrod
    
    Arrange for convenient dropping of traffic offense notices perhaps?
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:18am
    - julesnzuk
      
      Offence.
      
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  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Minister Brown will be furious 😃
    
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    May 12, 2024 12:22pm
- PeeJay
  
  And see the Maori word soup continues. So glad that the government laid down the law on this and insisted on English being used. Any day now…….
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:36am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t see how those selection criteria will get them a candidate who can manage the Government’s top transport advisors. Let’s say there are 50 people in New Zealand who could do the job well. Maybe 15 could be persuaded to apply. How many of those 15 will be able to speak te reo, and meaningfully understand Matauranga Maori and tikanga Maori?
    
    I am gobsmacked TBH. The calibre of these people is important for the government and for all of us.
    
    Either none of the Ministerial advisors read kiwiblog, or these job advertisements, or they just don’t care. 😕
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:29am
    - imalwaysright
      
      I get the impression that the successful candidate has already been selected and they have tailored the job description to match.
      
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      May 12, 2024 10:51am
- pdm
  
  BY – presumably this comes under the brief of Minister Simeon Brown.
  
  One can only hope he will jump on this and knock the position on the head.
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:37am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I assume that you are being sarcastic 🙂
    
    Chances of that = zero.
    
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    May 12, 2024 9:45am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He usually gets grumpy when parts of his ministry try and do things on their own bat, I note he shut down the Tauranga council wanting to extend the commissioners pretty quick smart
    
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    May 12, 2024 12:25pm
- kowtow
  
  Another aspect of this nonsense in the so called public service is that following 6 years of Ardern and Co’s wrecking , the public service is no longer there to serve the public ,but instead is now fully an instrument of “progressive” social(ist) policy to serve the Treaty industry , and not the New Zealand public.
  
  As such it is not fit for purpose and is certainly anti democratic .
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:47am
- Burtland
  
  taniwha advisor role – its important stuff
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:54am
- slightlyrighty
  
  I imagine similar criteria exist in the policy framework group for energy supply issues in NZ.
  
  Which might explain why we are at a perilous state for energy supplies in this country now!
  
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  May 12, 2024 9:57am
- slightlyrighty
  
  well, here’s 400K in potential savings for the government!
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:00am
- kevn
  
  BY… All those young people getting ‘educated’ in all things maori at school, a life in the public service beckons.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:22am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is so depressing. When I first came to New Zealand, the majority of senior public servants who I met were serious people.
    
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    May 12, 2024 10:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Somebody needs to employ all the Te Reo graduates.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:46am
- trout
  
  I would guess they already have a person (who meets the specific criteria) they want to appoint; probably within the department. The tight requirements limit competition. The selection is rigged.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:01am
- Paulus
  
  This projected income is now normal for many second tier Public Servants of any deliberation.
  From available data many of the top Leaders appointed, as best for the jobs of course, are now women, who attain well over that salary of the Prime Minister.
  This has been occurring over some four or so years.
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:18pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    That salary is just way too high. Where is the value for taxpayers?
    
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    May 12, 2024 7:35pm
Master Mariner

https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandgas/australasia/553276/australia-backs-47-billion-gas-sectors-role-in-transition/

What’s NZ’s “Transition”, Indonesian Coal ?

Mean while,
https://energynow.com/2024/05/u-s-energy-secretary-to-visit-saudi-arabia-uae-next-week-officials-say/

“Those talks are being led on the U.S. side by White House officials and the State Department, but not Granholm.” Gee wonder why ?

Between (NZ’s own ex Energy Minister), Woods and Granholm, Its a tie for incompetency.
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May 12, 2024 9:21am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

All charges against Trump my be thrown out.

This is in addition to the extra files lumped in with the Mar a Lago ones.

https://patriotpulse.net/jack-smiths-shocking-confession-may-get-all-charges-against-trump-tossed-out/?
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May 12, 2024 9:39am
kowtow

Very disturbing crime incident in New York .

A man has been arrested following disabling a woman by putting what looks like a belt around her neck and literally dragging her away by the noose to allegedly rape her.

Where is the outrage.
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May 12, 2024 9:43am
- Inandout
  
  kow, NY is now a shit hole and may never recover.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJkOAeAd04
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:02am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Always was a shithole. Too many Irish and Italians.
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:15am
    - plc
      
      Seriously?
      
      Pure racism which you’ll laugh off as humour.
      
      You should get a job with James Cameron on his next expedition.
      
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      May 12, 2024 11:41am
      - Mike
        
        Just making the point that every influx of migrants to large cities has always been villified.
        
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        May 12, 2024 2:55pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Nice racism there Michael…. My Irish ancestory is quite offended…..
      
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      May 12, 2024 12:08pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It was not a shithole when I was there in 2003, Gulliani was the mayor, crime was down, people were happy. We even walked through Harlem without any worries, you would not go near there these days.
      
      I guess I lost you at Gulliani, but he had the place tidied up
      
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      May 12, 2024 12:29pm
Bridgenag

Saboteurs opposed to “automobile capitalism” fail to storm German Tesla factory, claim credit for stopping production on a scheduled holiday when nobody was at work in the first place

https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/saboteurs-opposed-to-automobile-capitalism?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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May 12, 2024 9:46am
- Inandout
  
  Bridge, ironic that EV Musk, the supposed saviour of the world’s climate is now offside with the Greens. Amazing what buying a free speech company does to Marxists when they become MuskSD, alongside of course TrumpDS and IsraelDS.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:10am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Even the Dems hate him now, he put that meme up where he sits on the political spectrum, he didn’t move, but the left who straddled the centre now sit hard to the left, it left the Dems speechless, but brought the bike deep from their bellies out
    
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    May 12, 2024 12:32pm
- thirteenstars
  
  The message is: electrification is a lie. As soon as they regulate and tax you out of your gas-powered car, they’ll regulate and tax you out of your electric vehicle.
  
  As soon as abundant energy goes away, they can price and regulate you out of air conditioning, industrial refrigeration and other “luxuries”.
  
  They aren’t trying to save the planet; they’re trying to destroy YOU.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:27am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
Tikanga Part 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH-rYwHJ6AU
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May 12, 2024 10:07am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

They are coming for your guns.

The United Spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xze4XhEc2g
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May 12, 2024 10:11am
Hugh Jarse

I haven’t watched Q & A for a long time. I had some time this morning and wanted to watch Mark Mitchell’s interview. First I watched Jack Tame interviewing Ayesha Verrall and then Mitchell, the contrast was amazing. Not one interruption or fact checking of Verrall and continually interrupting and challenging Mitchell and talking over him. Smart arse, projecting his contempt for Mitchell in his answers. Tame did do a good job of sticking up for the gangs and criminals though.
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May 12, 2024 10:15am
- Bridgenag
  
  Thanks for taking one for the team……
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:25am
- Maggie Pie
  
  We just watched the replay on 501. Can’t believe Mitch was able to keep his kool! Thort he might have been tempted to give the snivelling little crim-hugger a smack over the head.
  
  Just saying.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:51am
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Yes he did pretty well in the face of a lot of provocation. Verrall just sat back like Yoda and glared at Tame, his body language is pretty indicative. Beaten down by Verrall’s glare and bristling at Mitchell.
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:06am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Young Donald Trump predicts Joe Biden in 1980 interview.

Trump was MAGA before he even knew it.
It is the Rona Barrett interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQDKekRg6B4
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May 12, 2024 10:17am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING “X”

And for anyone here who doesn’t think that guy ‘Bomber Bradbury’ is as mad-as-a-meat-axe……read what he has to say about Winston introducing a law to STOP sexual deviants from using Female Toilets!

“It is essential for every person to break this law, and I certainly intend to. As soon as the law passes, I am using the women’s toilets and photographing me using them, and then posting them on line. Come and arrest me!”

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/05/11/nz-first-plans-toilet-karen-law-to-police-trans-community-why-we-all-need-to-break-these-laws/
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May 12, 2024 10:18am
- rouppe
  
  There have been female designated toilets for well over a century. They exist today.
  
  Why doesn’t he use them now?
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:38am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yuck, yuck, yuck.
  
  Imagine you’re a young girl desperate to use the loo and there’s this bloody big hairy man emerging out of a dunny cubicle or commandeering the wash-basin.
  
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  May 12, 2024 10:54am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You just described Bomber to a tee 😀 😀 😀
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:36am
  - John Loveridge
    
    As the father of young teenage girls, I’m not exactly thrilled at the prospect of them going to a toilet and finding a bloody big hairy man in there.
    
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    May 12, 2024 6:42pm
- Dougal10
  
  I bet bomber gets someone to check its all clear first, imagine him getting clocked by an irate dad of a teen girl . Hes all piss and wind.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:07am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He identifies as a female.
    Dad identifies as the tooth fairy.
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:44am
- OlderChas
  
  The writer of that diatribe is severely mentally deranged!
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:11am
- Ghost
  
  He will just photograph himself in a unisex toilet.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:16am
  - imalwaysright
    
    He sounds like a real mans man!
    
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    May 12, 2024 11:39am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Winston’s stunt probably won’t even make it to a select committee, let alone become a law.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:17am
- greybeard
  
  I read it. It looks like a cry for attention. Pathetic.
  
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  May 12, 2024 11:18am
- Notsofast
  
  It’s gotta be men to write policy on this.
  Chris Luxon: Winston’s on another planet.
  Chris Hipkins: Winston’s transphobic and homophobic.
  Here is a Twitter thread from a real and sane woman explaining: Ani O’Brien
  
  https://twitter.com/aniobrien/status/1789133707619836231?t=wtD5tyj1JhDDTXGhfDA-hg&s=19
  
  I will never understand how men have the brazen effrontery to shout down the women.
  Do schoolgirls get a say?
  No, I thought not.
  
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  May 12, 2024 12:30pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I agree with Peters on this, but yet again it will come across as nasty and vindictive by media snd the bandits in Labour. Not sure they need fined, but as he said, use the unisex toilets
  
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  May 12, 2024 12:35pm
Bridgenag

Stellar Blade Stirs the DEI Hornet’s Nest

“I don’t usually cover games, nor have even played them in a long time, but I keep my eye on developments and recent trends have been extremely revealing of a dark streak threading its way through the industry. It’s particularly important because of how it overlaps with the cultural engineering movements currently putting society in a stranglehold. The reason is obvious, of course: the same players are ever behind it. BlackRock, et al.

The latest controversy embroiling the gaming world comes by way of a Playstation 5 game called Stellar Blade. The controversy revolves mainly around the fact that the playable character, Eve, is rendered in a putatively male-gaze-oriented and ‘misogynistic’ optic which is said to objectify women.

https://open.substack.com/pub/darkfutura/p/stellar-blade-stirs-the-dei-hornets?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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May 12, 2024 10:24am
- Mike
  
  Gamergate.
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:52pm
mogg

Arranging a demo outside Parliament next week:
‘Palestine for Queers’, all welcome.
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May 12, 2024 10:28am
Maggie Pie

A bestie from Mass tweeted earlier 😀

I just can’t put my finger on it. Not sure if it’s the size of the hands, the Adams Apple, or the big hairy balls……

https://twitter.com/prideukorg/status/1789217236940468592
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May 12, 2024 10:32am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Nice wig!
  
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  May 12, 2024 7:38pm
Yvette

According to the party, the Treaty of Waitangi should be defined as:
• Article One – The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders.
• Article Two – The New Zealand Government will honour all New Zealanders in the chieftainship of their land and all their property.
• Article Three – All New Zealanders are equal under the law.

Claimants and interested parties behind the legal challenge include iwi leaders, academics, health workers and representatives from Māori groups throughout the country.
They argue ACT’s interpretation is inaccurate, misleading and provides both the Crown and non-Māori more rights than the Treaty promised.
In a joint written submission to the Tribunal, they said the Bill would “effectively write Te Tiriti o Waitangi out of existence for the purposes of the Crown”.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/05/09/waitangi-tribunal-hears-arguments-on-treaty-principles-bill/

They are us – Ardern
That is what it is, yep! … yep! – Ardern [1]
“There’s no principles, the Treaty is written. That’s it” – Kiingi Tūheitia [2]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdMSRolWCyQ
[2] https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/maori-king-calls-for-hope-over-protest-while-dismissing-govt-treaty-bill/M2EXZG3JLNHTPFKEEUFK7Z5QXY/
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May 12, 2024 10:41am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hygwau-rKNo
Contractors spray-painted over pro-Palestinian protesters at Case Western Reserve University.
To stop the contractors, several students stood in front of the Spirit Wall as workers directly sprayed white paint over them. One student, wearing a face shield, was seen completely covered in the paint in a video shared with The Plain Dealer and Cleveland.com by Case’s Students for Justice in Palestine group. [Pity there wasn’t a manure spreader to hand.]
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May 12, 2024 11:23am
sungsamning

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/13-federal-judges-announce-boycott-hiring-law-clerks/
13 Federal Judges Announce Boycott of Hiring Law Clerks from Columbia University, Citing Rampant Antisemitism and Campus Disruptions.
A group of federal judges has announced a boycott of Columbia University, citing concerns over the institution’s handling of recent campus disruptions and allegations of fostering anti-semitism.
The judges, who hire law clerks annually, expressed their loss of confidence in Columbia University following the aftermath of the October 7 terrorist attacks by Hamas.
The university, once renowned for its academic excellence, has now been labeled by the judges as ground zero “for the explosion of student disruptions, antisemitism, and hatred for diverse viewpoints.”
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May 12, 2024 11:23am
- Ra Henare
  
  Guess they must all be democrats. Ie they dont agree with the constitution.
  Surprise…Not.
  Israeli media reports
  https://us18.campaign-archive.com/?e=3a18d540e7&u=d3bceadb340d6af4daf1de00d&id=82feff140b
  
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  May 12, 2024 12:51pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Old ladies go feral

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68995662
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May 12, 2024 11:41am
- Swifty
  
  Oh my god, it’s true!
  
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OIs49m56E
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:06pm
Maggie Pie

That horribe Simon Wilson was on Newtalk with Francessca Rudkin.
Told her he doesn’t think Secruity Guards should be given powers to detain theives or troublemakers…..and is quite happy for trans-deviants to use girls rest-rooms and paticipate in women’s sports.

No wonder Mayor Wayne sticks his portrait up in the Men’s Urinals.
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May 12, 2024 11:53am
- Notsofast
  
  He is quite happy.
  Does he have standing in these matters?
  Connecting the dots you will find he supports the Taliban policy on female education.
  
  What a disgusting misogynist.
  
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  May 12, 2024 12:59pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Who cares what Simon Wilson thinks.
  Newstalk scraping the bottom of the barrel to interview another journalist.
  
  And they wonder why people dont support or believe them
  
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  May 12, 2024 1:24pm
  - Mike
    
    Some people even still listen to Mike Hosking.
    
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    May 12, 2024 2:50pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

80,000? Thousands waiting in line.
Trump’s Air Force One paid a visit.
Yuge.
Tell me he’s not going to win.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-takes-over-jersey-shore-town-for-80k-rally/ar-BB1memws
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May 12, 2024 12:10pm
- Mike
  
  He’s not going to win.
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:48pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Come see me Nov 6th NZ time, Mike. You can explain then.
    I have noted the time and date of your comment.
    
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    May 13, 2024 8:19am
bjools

Maybe they should target their customers by being fluent in maybe 2 or 3 of the most spoken languages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers
Note the most common language, either as a first second or third language, is…..
ENGLISH.
Isn’t it great that this massively diverse and culturally rich language, is also spoken by New Zealanders.
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May 12, 2024 12:44pm
- Dave
  
  According to the linked table, the numbers of first language speakers are:
  
  Mandarin – 939m
  Spanish – 485m
  English – 380m
  
  My guess is that Mandarin will not displace English as a second language in the world leadership stakes, despite the rise of China as a great power, because its written representation, lacking the sound-spelling regularities of English, is so difficult.
  
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  May 12, 2024 7:50pm
Ra Henare

Haha. Listening to many young Kiwis? or indeed young black Americans with supposed 1st language English. Have no idea what they are talking about.
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May 12, 2024 12:54pm
- julesnzuk
  
  Any group of people who self identify as “kiwis” are probably not among the world’s winners. Seriously, when did we stop being “New Zealanders”?
  
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  May 13, 2024 5:34am
Maggie Pie

O.M.G. Having spent the best part of 12 years at Catholic Boarding School, I can honestly say this is someting we were never taught…..

https://mol.im/a/13407635
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May 12, 2024 1:01pm
- Mike
  
  Were you taught the ten commandments?
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:47pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    There’s eleven actually milkey….
    
    11. ‘Do unto others as they would do unto you’.
    
    I just gave you a downtick.
    
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    May 12, 2024 4:05pm
    - Mike
      
      Which set of the 10 commandments do you prefer?
      
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      May 12, 2024 4:12pm
Ra Henare

In answer to BJOOLS from yesterday.

https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/
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May 12, 2024 1:36pm
- All_on_Red
  
  https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
  Check out the graph of the number of deaths per day.
  Reporting the same number of dead every day stretches credulity.
  
  That report written by Abraham Wyner who is;
  ‘Professor Wyner received his Bachelors degrees in Mathematics from Yale University, where he graduated Magna Cum Laude with distinction in his major. He was the recipient of the Stanley Prize for excellence in Mathematics. His PhD in Statistics is from Stanford University, where he won a National Science Foundation Graduate Fellowship, the Abrams Prize and the Herz Foundation fellowship. After graduating from Stanford, he received the NSF post-graduate fellowship and a visiting Professorship at the University of California, Berkeley. Dr. Wyner has been a Professor of Statistics at the Wharton School of Business for the last 11 years. He is a tenured Professor and the Chair of the Undergraduate Program in Statistics and Data Science for the University of Pennsylvania.
  
  Professor Wyner is an expert at Probability Models and Statistics. His principle focus at Wharton has been research in Applied Probability, Information Theory and Statistical Learning. He has published more than 30 articles in leading journals in many different fields, including Applied Statistics, Applied Probability, Finance, Information Theory, Computer Science and Bio-Informatics. ‘
  https://statistics.wharton.upenn.edu/profile/ajw/
  
  Of course you will say, “well he has a Jewish sounding name”
  Mind you, you also tell us ‘mass slaughter’ is going on.
  Which is rather hyperbolic to the point of being a complete lie.
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:08pm
  - Mike
    
    Is Professor Wyner able to provide an accurate tally of casualties?
    
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    May 12, 2024 2:46pm
    - Dave
      
      Wyner doesn’t attempt to provide a figure for deaths; instead, he uses probability analysis of Hamas-supplied numbers to argue that the daily figures are pre-determined fakes because, among other things:
      
      1) the daily increases in deaths are implausibly regular;
      2) there is no correlation between children’s and women’s deaths;
      3) there is a negative correlation between men’s deaths and combined children’s/women’s deaths.
      
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      May 12, 2024 8:17pm
      - Mike
        
        That there are discrepancies in the Hamas is not really relevant unless more accurate figures can be verified. It’s all very well to accept the casualty figures are overstated, but that just leads to the question of what would be the ‘right’ numbers to be proportionate and justified.
        
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        May 12, 2024 9:02pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Just in;
    ‘The United Nations seemingly halved the estimated number of women and children killed in Gaza, according to UN data published on May 6 and 8.’
    ‘On May 6, the UN published data showing that 34,735 people had reportedly been killed in Gaza, including over 9,500 women and over 14,500 children.
    On May 8, the UN published data showing 34,844 people had reportedly been killed, including 4,959 women and 7,797 children.’
    ‘The new figures showed the number of identified deaths as of April 30, which total 24,686 people; the new data also specified that 10,006 men had been killed and 1,924 elderly.’
    
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-800772
    
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    May 12, 2024 2:56pm
    - Mike
      
      And?
      
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      May 12, 2024 3:21pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Why am I not surprised that Tablet.com is a Pro Israel site.
    Just goes to prove that Google can provide any “”news”” you want.
    
    And I thought Time and the medical Journal Lancet with 2 independent articles was believable.
    
    But No, I have to believe Israeli information/misinformation
    Oh and of course the Jerusalem Post is a great independent journal.
    
    Thanks AOR, great Israeli supporter.
    
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    May 12, 2024 3:18pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Heh
      So you have no rebuttal of an expert like Wyner’s analysis or the fact the UN have reduced the number of deaths and whom killed.
      Both of which prove you are talking nonsense.
      And as for claiming I’m a ‘great Israeli supporter’ , more like I’m fisking moronic claims.
      How long have you hated Jews?
      
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      May 12, 2024 4:00pm
      - Mike
        
        So you don’t have any accurate casualty figures.
        How long have you been beating your wife?
        
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        May 12, 2024 4:10pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  There would be no deaths if it was not for the actions of Hamas on 7 October!
  
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  May 12, 2024 2:13pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Chuck, if you believe that you believe in fairies.
    
    Have you checked the Westbank casualties (ie no Hamas) and the Gaza casualties before 7th October.
    
    Thought not.
    
    Latest from Westbank. Unarmed 14 year old boy shot and killed by Israeli soldiers while standing on the side of the road watching soldiers on a mission in Westbank.
    
    This from Israeli media
    
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/twilight-zone/2024-05-11/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/a-palestinian-teen-was-standing-on-the-street-when-israeli-troops-shot-him-dead/0000018f-6483-d3cc-a3ff-ee9b74ab0000
    
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    May 12, 2024 3:26pm
Chuck Bird

Please answer YES or NO

Hi Jack

Did you interrupt Mark Mitchell numerous times and not interrupt Ayesha Verrall once – YES or NO?

I copy this to Kiwiblog and assume no reply means YES?

Did your mother bring you up with any manners – YES or NO?

Regards
Chuck Bird
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May 12, 2024 1:41pm
Gravelroad

The Rugby-
I’m a Crusaders fan but maybe the time has come for the coach, management and players to accept that they are not going to win the championship this year.
That’s sport. No team can be top of the pile forever.
For the coach to once again be crying into his beer and offering public apologies in the media for his players is not necessary and is more embarrassing for the fans than the team not winning.
And as for Ethan Blackadder, who may be an outstanding player of the game when he is actually able to do it, he is too injury prone to be considered. The Crusaders this year were very low on fit, capable, team members, but they chose to nurse one along instead of getting someone else who was fit to play more than half a game every third weekend.
Time to draw a line under this season and get on with building a new, more resilient team for next year.
Just my two bob’s worth.
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May 12, 2024 2:47pm
Ra Henare

From our Mr Farrahs post a few days ago.

arguing over obtaining/buying Palestinian land by Jewiws.

Found this interesting article on Israeli media

Haaretz | Israel News
In First, Israel’s High Court Orders Police to Investigate Illegal Settlement Activity in West Bank
The decision was made in response to a petition from 2018 demanding that a regional council in the West Bank investigate illegal construction in its jurisdiction; the government didn’t deny that illegal construction was carried out
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May 12, 2024 3:32pm
Pope Punctilious II

David Starkey faces up to the spectre of a Labour victory in the UK this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVa27KpH–U&t=2149s
He makes a pretty convincing case that Tony Blair did more damage to Britain than the Luftwaffe.
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May 12, 2024 3:52pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350275515/duchess-sussex-thanks-nigerians-welcoming-me-my-country

Dear God, these two are simply insane.
The red-headed illegitimate son of a British commoner ( this late and lamented British commoner having been married to a Windsor royal Prince who had had a long-term affair with a woman he eventually married and subsequently made into a Queen ) hooks up with a previously-married-and-divorced female American actress who apparently has some desirable genetic connection to someone in Nigeria.
And we are assured that this is cause for celebration.
My head hurts.
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- julesnzuk
  
  Who assures us this is cause for celebration? All the sources I’ve read (which include mainstream media in the UK) see it as cause for ridicule.
  
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