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Simon

MSM falling apart then MSM release a poll which shows the govt that will bail them out winning. Ok. Look you better hurry along and get that booster shot. And all that extra tax you are paying will definitely save the weather.
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April 30, 2024 8:03am
- kowtow
  
  These polls are the news literally making the news.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:27am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Morgan out any day followed by Curia
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:28am
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    Roy Morgan poll update just out: I don’t expect Maiki Sherman to mention this…
    
    “Roy Morgan’s New Zealand Poll for April 2024 shows the new National-led Government (National, ACT & NZ First) with a majority of 53% (down 3% points from March) with a large lead over the Labour-Greens-Maori Party Parliamentary Opposition on 43% (up 2.5% points).”
    
    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/nz-national-voting-intention-april-2024?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MRU%2030th%20April%202024&utm_content=MRU%2030th%20April%202024+CID_9d969be87ac2fe6ae2f1b7fad8306afd&utm_source=Market%20Research%20Update&utm_term=Read%20Full%20Article
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:07pm
- Stellaboxer
  
  If anyone thought these clowns would give up without a fight they’re mad. They believe.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:26am
- Debsta
  
  The quality of the poll is perfectly demonstrated by the (unprompted) preferred PM responses totalling only 54%. Think about that folks.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:30am
  - MCōs
    
    Which means 46% don’t have a preference
    What’s your issue?
    Anyone can see there’s no outstanding leader in our parliament, nor Australia, UK or America for that matter
    Maybe we’ve become so cynical than we’re automatically suspicious of anyone who becomes too popular like Jacinda Ardern & out come the knives.
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:27am
    - kowtow
      
      When “outstanding” leaders do emerge the Blob sets out to destroy them.
      
      Liz Truss and The Don come readily to mind.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:29am
    - Debsta
      
      I agree there is a lack of inspirational leadership throughout the west, and that may account for some of the indifference as you suggest. But I strongly suspect one in three of those polled could not name someone without being prompted with a list to choose from. I’d love to be wrong.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:43am
    - Manu-Rau
      
      Surely you aren’t suggesting that Ardern was an “outstanding leader”?
      
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      April 30, 2024 11:05am
      - softail 1450
        
        Manu~Rau ,He is .
        
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        May 1, 2024 7:28am
Matt Long

Another pants on fire award for the Marxist greens as yet another study confirms the work we did showing grazing ruminants is environmentally friendly and sequesters more carbon than is emitted.
https://www.agriland.co.uk/farming-news/research-confirms-environmental-benefits-of-grazing-ruminants/
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April 30, 2024 8:03am
- G152
  
  In a hundred years time there will be no greenies if they follow their inane religion.
  People have to eat and agriculture produces food End of story
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:12am
  - peterwn
    
    Reminds me of Oscar Wilde’s line from ‘The Importance of Being Earnest’:
    “The precept as well as the practice of the Primitive Church was distinctly against matrimony. – That is obviously the reason why the Primitive Church has not lasted up to the present day.”
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:28am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Thats damn good Peter… Made me smile. Nice one
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:59am
  - Burtland
    
    This was the concern when they wrote in the Paris Agreement …
    
    2 1b low greenhouse gas emissions development, in a manner that does not threaten food production
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:06am
- Matt Long
  
  The problem we have is that although New Zealand is physically better placed to take advantage of soil carbon sequestration than pretty much any other nation because we graze animals outdoors in a temperate climate, unfortunately it’s politically impossible because we oscillate between radical Marxist governments and Soy Boy Socialists who push Gate’s GM, soy fake food burgers at the expense of our own producers.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/air-new-zealand-serves-impossible-burger-with-no-meat/U4VS2CF66W7GOZJXMVZTMRNTAY/
  CEO of Air NZ at the time?
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/105216779/air-nzs-impossible-burger-criticised-by-former-primary-industries-minister
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:14am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  Yes indeed, another study that doesn’t support the political carbon zero narrative and so gets minimal coverage. Sigh.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:19am
  - Burtland
    
    “we own the science and the world should know it”
    – Melissa Fleming UN 2022
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez9jP29dljI
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:20am
- Paulus
  
  Imagine the superior Greens. TPM and Labour, under Jacinda, getting into bed together again.
  Grant would have to drop salary enormously too.
  Wow, what a thought for the day !
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:20am
- Benedict Yu
  
  The poll last night highlighted a key risk to the government receiving a second term. If New Zealand First falls below 5 percent, there does not seem to be a path to a majority for National and ACT, and once Winston finally retires there goes New Zealand First.
  
  IMO National has no workable plan for increasing its share of the vote. It’s attempts to appease the woke and the left will not persuade any of these people to switch their support to National. Every time they do something ‘half hearted’, they enrage the media and the left. That rage would have been no different had they done the job properly.
  
  It would be a mistake to be complacent and say ‘well in New Zealand all governments get a second term’. However we have never had a three party coalition under MMP. Yesterday’s poll shows that this could be a big problem for National.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:21am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Half hearted, they enrage the media every single time. This government has set about delivering exactly what it said, I read messages on news channels today about tgd poll saying the deeply unpopular policies are doing this, what has been delivered which is deeply unpopular? Heard woke nut bar last night saying she blames the fast track consenting, why are people afraid of large scale work getting consented quickly instead of finishing that project in the bin? I just don’t get it
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:33am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “government has set about delivering exactly what it said…”
      
      Yes but what it is doing does little more than scratch the surface of the problems facing New Zealand.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:25am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Well they can’t do it in one swoop, at present they are doing the uncomfortable things like cutting bureaucrats, this will need to be done before budget starts July 1. They have to get settings right to attract investment and too stop the brain drain
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:57am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “…at present they are doing the uncomfortable things like cutting bureaucrats…”
        
        It is minor window dressing.
        
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        April 30, 2024 2:25pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Correct.
    
    They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t .
    
    So they may as well get on with it and get it done.
    
    First, scrap the treaty.
    We have nothing to lose.
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:35am
    - Scooter
      
      I watched the tvnz item with Maiki Sherman on you tube to get an idea of how balanced reporting has become with the new govt, words straight after the obligatory greeting in Maori were “political turbulence ahead, brace for impact, freefall” etc, you’d think she was describing a near miss plane crash and not some inconsequential poll that was done by the same TV station as employed by the reporter.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:11am
      - Gravelroad
        
        Yes, all that was laughable and ridiculous.
        But there doesn’t seem to be any editorial oversight or management of these activist journalists who see their role as pushing a barrow.
        Time for some of the advertisers to wake up.
        I’m not buying what they are selling if the company continues to use amateur dramatic fronters with an agenda to market their products.
        
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        April 30, 2024 9:38am
      - Bobba Fret
        
        Yes Mike Hosking made fun of it and played it over a few times. Polls are a waste of time until they are in their third year.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:26am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        The comments on their FB page was 95% damning of her and the channels effort, the breaking news bullshit, the vulgarity of Sherman and Dallow, the smug arrogance and the time d sad pent on a poll. As I said one month Otago or less the polls said the opposite, I can not see support has dropped like this so quick
        
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        April 30, 2024 12:00pm
      - Paulus
        
        Outside the Public Sector Sherman would get the DCM today.
        
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        April 30, 2024 1:40pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Stop the Maorification of NZ. This is what National campaigned on and they are not doing. Chris Luxon is catering to Maori – doesn’t want to do anything that will offend them. Let them be offended, nothing happens.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:37am
      - Ghost
        
        No. National are doing what they campaigned on. You should pay more attention to what is said in campaigns.
        
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        April 30, 2024 9:39am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        They are doing it, they are canning the Māori health authority, they are dumping 3 waters, they are doing what they said
        
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        April 30, 2024 12:02pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I did Ghost. All I can find now is that stopping Maorification was more NZFirst.
        
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        April 30, 2024 3:07pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “They are doing it, they are canning the Māori health authority, they are dumping 3 waters, they are doing what they said”
        
        OK here is a question. By the end of this year (probably well before the end) they will have ticked off everything in the coalition agreement. What are they going to do for the following two years?
        
        Are you telling me that the beginning and end of their aspirations for New Zealand is what is in that agreement?
        
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        April 30, 2024 3:39pm
      - leoj
        
        The fact that the wokester, Luxon, does not want to see ACT’s Treaty Principles Bill past the first reading is very telling.
        
        He is a maori sympathiser and has bought into maori wonderfulness.
        
        A major reason that Labour was booted out was to get of the maori takeover. Luxon is failing to read the room on this.
        
        As the leading party in the coalition, they are acting like they are shit scared of upsetting the maori radicals.
        
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        April 30, 2024 3:56pm
  - peterwn
    
    I would be more interested in seeing the results of a Curia poll. Anyway Chris Luxon’s priority at present is getting things back on track, not aiming for high poll numbers.
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:36am
    - wsk12345
      
      This situation was entirely predictable. They are playing around the edges with little bits out of the coalition agreements but failing to make the big calls eg public service, removing maorification such as shown by BY in job ads, education, etc. so the people that voted for them are now pissed off in addition to people that already hated them.
      
      Until they stop trying to appeal to lefty voters they will continue to slide.
      
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      April 30, 2024 8:51am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, and Morgan possibly this week, Curia out three weeks ago suggesting the coalition was well in control
      
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      April 30, 2024 12:04pm
      - Sacha
        
        It all depends on what questions are asked. and who asks them.
        If the questions were published we might believe the outcome somewhat.
        
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        April 30, 2024 12:37pm
  - Grunter
    
    Let’s assume the poll is accurate (maybe it is maybe it isn’t). So what does that then mean for NZ?
    
    1. The majority of voters can not stomach the realities of life and face up to deficits and debt.
    2. The majority of voters want special rights for people with any Maori genetics.
    3. The majority of voters don’t want to get (slightly) tougher on crime.
    
    Considering that the coalition govt hasn’t even dialed back anywhere near to 2017 levels of spending (so we are significantly more socialist than in 2017) – yet the polls indicate that the majority want the hard left to come back in.
    
    If that is the case – then NZ is buggered and we will get what we deserve. New Zimbabwe here we come!
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:55am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      More likely it just means that voters are expressing an opinion about the state of NZ today. The task for the current government is the same as it has always been: to turn things around and get NZ back on track. As long as they achieve that by the next election they will be ok.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:30am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      If Labour / Greens get in to government in 2026, I will again seriously consider moving to Australia. (like I was considering if they had won the 2023 election). It amazes me that according to the poll, people would rather get freebies now and bankrupt the country, than tighten our belts and trade out of the recession.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:31am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Just makes it clearer and clearer to anyone with brains or ambition to get out of NZ before it once more falls into the grip of the New-Venezueland/Zimbabwe aspirant Racist Marxists who will rapidly destroy all their savings/equity.
      
      With a near-majority of voters this dumb the writing is on the wall. NZ is unsalvageable.
      
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      April 30, 2024 11:28am
  - WorthwhileAucklandInitiative
    
    Winston is not going to retire. A politician whose opinion I value once told me “he will die in parliament”. As long as he’s alive and lucid you will see him on the hustings next time around.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:01am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes he may go on for another three terms into his late 80s. However the odds are against him.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:30am
      - jkt
        
        My grandfather died at 84, he smoked all his life. My Dad died at 94, he smoked for his entire working life. Will I enjoy more time on this planet than either? An intermittent secondary smoker. I think the odds are not in my favour. (If you ask me again in future I will tell you that my odds are more favourable, than yesterday)
        
        We all run out of time but the odds seem to favour Winston.
        
        PS: Neither died of lung cancer or with any signs of lung cancer.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:20am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Pointing out outliers like smokers who lived to 95 does not negate the reality that smoking is terrible for your health and causes millions of premature deaths.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:30am
      - jkt
        
        Benedict, how did you get there?
        I expected you to show a better understanding of data.
        
        How many people who are living in their eighties today have smoked most of their lives. How many who did not make it to eighty died as a result of smoking.
        
        Hell, man, one does not even need to understand elementary arithmetic to understand that much.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:41am
      - NothingLeft
        
        We’ve been breeding resistance to breathing smoke for 100’s of Millenia, no doubt there are a lot of genes in circulation that confere near-immunity to lung cancer/disease from cigarette smoke. A lot of people don’t have resistance, but many will.
        
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        April 30, 2024 2:06pm
    - MCōs
      
      Winston may not retire at the end of this term, but it’s almost certain NZF won’t be back next term.
      Whenever he’s been part of a government they don’t get 5% next time.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:33am
      - jkt
        
        It will be an outlier next time.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:36am
      - peterwn
        
        I think it is different this time. He is having a ball as Foreign Affairs Minister and seems to making a good job of it. If he can avoid getting offside with Chris Luxon and not being too stroppy, I think he will get his 5% next time.
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:38am
      - Paulus
        
        As an all time National voter, on present basis, I am considering taking my votes to NZF at the next election unless I see what we voted for enacted.
        
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        April 30, 2024 1:43pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Winston is a decade beyond his use-by date. We should not have politicians in their 70’s in parliament, mental decline and energy drop-off are steep at that age and voting public deserve best representation.
        
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        April 30, 2024 2:09pm
      - Zero Kindness
        
        I expect NZ First to be back next term with closer to 10% than 5%.
        National and Act are losing support to Winston on a daily basis.
        Not particularly important this far out from elections though. A lot of water to pass under the bridge yet.
        
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        April 30, 2024 2:47pm
      - wsk12345
        
        Wow Nothing Left.
        
        I’d say that Winston is one of the better performing Ministers or Opp Spokespeople. He would have to have severe dementia before he is worse than Chloe et al.
        
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        April 30, 2024 6:41pm
  - Damocles11
    
    I expect voters on the right to do what is necessary to ensure that a Coalition government can again be formed. This means voting to ensure that there is no wasted vote on the right. Peters base seems to be particularly flakey, and he needs to be aware that going into full ‘foreign minister’ mode will again see him perceived as becoming detached from what is going on here at home: he needs to be visible and ‘in the fight’, and not leaving it all to Jones.
    If push comes to shove and NZ First are polling at 4.8% going into the election with the Coalition parties looking to fall short of government, would I vote NZ First? I believe I would have to. If Labour / TPM / Greens get in in their current radical mood then New Zealand is totally screwed. It would be economic and societal ruination for this country. It is no time to be passive about fighting this menace, because the left, including the MSM, are vocal and energised. Rusted-on National blue-bloods should think outside their box about how they can influence this nations future, whether that be by becoming more politically active, cancelling MSM subscriptions and advertising, voting strategically, or influencing those around them as to the danger.
    “Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:11am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Calm down it’s a poll and people are really hurting. Most people know that the mess belongs to the last bunch of clowns what they say to a pollster and where they are likely to place their kiss on a ballot paper are two different things.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:32am
  - NothingLeft
    
    The sensible thing for National to do would be to stop funding the propagandists of the opposition Media Party, and rip the band aid off on all the other necessary de-wokifying measures, particularly as regards the civil service, health and education centres – defanging them as centers of indoctrination.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:48am
    - jkt
      
      No need.
      They are self destructing.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:42am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Firstly, NZ First, and Winston may have miscalculated in taking the Deputy PM Role in the first half of this term.
    
    As things swing back to positives, ACT is probably better placed to benefit on the hustings because of this.
    
    Secondly, there is a trend worldwide against “Progressive” government. You only have to look at the SNP in Scotland.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:58am
    - jkt
      
      He is an astute politician and a betting man. One needs to understand the odds to be any good at either.
      
      He knows full well that his odds of dying tomorrow is lower than his odds of dying in the next three years. Most people trained as lawyers show surprisingly good understanding of stats, if they choose to do so.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:29am
  - Ipanema69
    
    Bene, your commented regarding half hearted actions is very perceptive.
    
    Half assed plans like the new three strikes plan never work. They disillusion supporters and give detractors ammunition. It is a lose lose scenario.
    
    Additionally if I was Chris Luxon I would not be afraid to splash some cash in appropriate portfolios.
    
    As an example I would seriously consider offering frontline police officers overtime rates to work additional shifts. Get some additional police presence on the streets now. Dont just wait for additional police officers to train. Pass a special law (it could have a sunset clause) requiring mandatory jail time for ram raiding etc.
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:28am
    - jkt
      
      If three strikes is a deterrent it stays a deterrent, whatever commentary is favoured by the media.
      
      Banning smoking based on a progressive age starting in the future will have no effect on the health of smokers before the policy kicks in, whatever the commentary favoured by the media and activists. Banning the use of dope has done wonders for the health of dopers. Yeah, right.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:49am
      - jkt
        
        So punishment for a crime is not a deterrent?
        Banning a good solution to deal with public health or health issues?
        Dopers are better off on dope?
        Alcoholics are better of as alcoholics?
        
        Yeah, right.
        
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        April 30, 2024 8:50pm
  - KiwiSapper
    
    “…….Yesterday’s poll shows that this could be a big problem for National….”
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    A karmatic outcome in ’26 would be for a coalition of National, Act and NZ First having the seats but with Act and NZ First combined or singly, having more seats than National.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:48am
- Ehlana
  
  The estimated bison numbers in North America in the 1700 – 1800 period were between 30 and 60 million animals.
  There are now about 76 million beef and milk cows and calves.
  
  Somehow, I don’t think it’s the ruminants causing the climate problems.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:48am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    IIRC there are about 1.5 billion cows globally?
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:35am
    - Ehlana
      
      I’ve never seen a global number. To make sense, this argument would need to compare ruminants numbers in pre-oil times with now. I suspect a lot of displacement – domesticated cows instead of zebra or bison, for example.
      
      But ruminants are part of the natural ecosystem. And even the people who wrote things like the Paris Agreement recognised the need for food.
      
      I think we could save the climate if all the people who don’t just stopped eating.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:55am
      - jkt
        
        We just look at tree rings and then adjust the numbers based on what we want to demonstrate.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:31am
      - alphabeatrium
        
        In NZ, most of dairy farms are on former wetlands. Wetlands are significant natural sources of methane. A proper comparison of the effect of dairy cattle with respect to methane therefore needs to compare them to the complete natural baseline, rather than to a hypothetical state with no cattle but the same landuse.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:51am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Less than 1 billion…and dropping
      
      https://www.statista.com/statistics/263979/global-cattle-population-since-1990/
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:39am
      - jkt
        
        Damn, I better stock up with ribeye……
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:51am
  - kowtow
    
    The problem is the Cowboys in Davos.
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:31am
- JohnRidd
  
  NOAA reports that methane in the atmosphere has increased by 0.3 parts per million (ppm) since measurements began in 1983. They have not said how much of the increase is due to ruminant digestion.
  
  https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/data/ch4.html
  
  To put it into perspective, CO2 has increased by about 75 ppm over the same period.
  
  Of course, water vapour, the most important greenhouse gas, can vary by thousands of ppm in a single day.
  
  I would like to see some sort of cost benefit analysis of the attempts to affect atmospheric methane concentration by taxing farmers.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:32am
  - alphabeatrium
    
    Methane degrades to CO₂; unless the number of animals is increasing, then methane won’t accumulate. Put another way, the warming effect from NZ’s CH₄ emissions from animals has already happened. This is why putting agriculture into the ETS really can’t do anything to help the climate.
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:30am
  - jkt
    
    75 is an awfully large number!!
    Smoking 75 cigarettes a day.. wow!
    Ha, ha….
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:34am
- Quail
  
  Agreed ML,
  Add in the benefits of well managed ruminants on land management itself.
  In fact weed control ( eg wilding pines ) is probably the only economic option available in many areas.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:34am
- alphabeatrium
  
  I’d love to up-tick that, but that link really reveals no evidence for its claims.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:28am
- sherp
  
  Strange huh that producing food, which is carbon based, sequest carbon… who wulda thunk it
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:54am
Simon

James Shaw man on the edge. Shaw was this close to handing back his driver’s license. It was a tense moment. China, Russia & India were watching. The world held its breath. Would a NZ minister of the crown actually hand in his driver’s license and change the entire course of history.
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April 30, 2024 8:07am
- imalwaysright
  
  NZ’s Bay of Pigs.
  Brinkmanship at its finest!
  
  Kennedy
  Krushchev
  ….James Shaw
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:21am
  - jkt
    
    A man of impeccable integrity…..
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:53am
    - Jennycraigsfailure
      
      Remember that green school Debacle, the person in question got caught strong arming too help his green mates and then lied on many occasions trying to deflect criticism.
      
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      April 30, 2024 11:16am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Yes, the school near Wanganui. $20,000,000 funding! (Or thereabouts) or no support for adern.
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:51am
      - jkt
        
        As I said, impeccable.
        
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        April 30, 2024 12:10pm
- softail 1450
  
  Simon ,He may not hand back his drivers license but it sounds like his university degrees were simply handed to him ,we’d know for sure by now but our cowardly leftist MSM is not interested in asking the questions.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:23am
  - mandk
    
    What are these degrees of which you speak?
    
    He definitely didn’t gain the one from VUW, and it’s unclear whether he truly gained the one from Bath.
    
    The man’s a fraud.
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:45am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      The University of Bath has confirmed that he graduated Master of Science.
      
      I doubt that DPF will appreciate you accusing a leading politician of fraud with no evidence.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:37am
      - Jack5
        
        Shaw gained MSc in sustainability and business leadership at the University of Bath School of Management in 2005, according to Wikipedia.
        
        It adds: “Before returning to Wellington in 2010, Shaw worked in the consulting division at PricewaterhouseCoopers. Between 2011 and 2014, Shaw worked as both a consultant for HSBC bank on ‘environmental awareness programmes for future leaders’.”
        
        Hell, even accountants and banksters are woke.
        
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        April 30, 2024 9:54am
      - kowtow
        
        jack5
        
        Those huge corporations ( not necessarily the ones mentioned above of course) are spending a few pennies here and there to ensure they have all the rights ticks for the right on brigade and/or to get govt contracts ,but we all know behind the scenes it’s business as usual. ( cough cough)
        
        Some of the biggest gangsters around wear suits and are backed by govts everywhere cos they’re literally “too big to fail”.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:39am
      - jkt
        
        Bene:
        I thought evidence is optional; at least we all know for a fact that evidence is relative but relevant??
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:56am
      - Paulus
        
        I assume that this is soapy evidence of his degree ?
        
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        April 30, 2024 1:47pm
artemisia

Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau has the lowest mayoral approval rate in New Zealand. The polling was carried out by David Farrar’s Curia Research.

Is going blond-ish her last ditch attempt to be popular?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/why-tory-whanau-has-the-lowest-approval-rating-in-the-country-bryce-edwards-political-roundup/IJWZZSXZKRFERBZSYMCYYG5KMI/
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April 30, 2024 8:07am
- Positan
  
  With her record to date, I don’t think that even a brain transplant would help.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:22am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Technically , it would be an implant .
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:37am
    - newview
      
      That’s pretty funny
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:35am
      - jkt
        
        Definitely parliamentary material. A brain implant may well be a disqualification.
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:01am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Going blind gives the guys in the circle a differing view
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:35am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    Sorry, downticked by mistake. That was very funny.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:11am
- Maggie Pie
  
  I wonder if she’ll stay true to her roots?
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:46am
  - Scooter
    
    Maggie I don’t think she wood kiss and tell??
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:25am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Are you trying to bring her to her knees with that comment Maggie?
    
    That would be hard on the woman
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:06am
    - jkt
      
      She has form.
      
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      April 30, 2024 11:02am
      - zulumonster
        
        Some wit opined that it was good to see her at the Dawn Parade last week. Another commented that she was seen blowing the bugle …. player
        
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        April 30, 2024 1:19pm
  - softail 1450
    
    MP, and all the comments following yours 😂😂😂😂 apparently she has them all on video, todays funniest comment .
    
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    May 1, 2024 7:38am
- Gravelroad
  
  If a new mayoral election was held next week, and Ms Whanau was one of the candidates, would she be re-elected by the Wellington voters?
  Yes.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:58am
  - peterwn
    
    The Post would probably give her a free half page ad on the front page again.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:44am
  - NoCash
    
    Would using the following slogan help a new candidate to win?
    
    Infrastructure First
    Vanity Projects Last
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:05pm
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  Tory Whanau says (re Reading cinema deal):
  @0.42 ‘we are simply purchasing the land under the building’
  @0.55 ‘they will then sell the land back to us’
  She has no idea what she is talking about. Erroneous, defensive, arrogant.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:39am
- Bobba Fret
  
  She will be on the Greens list before next local body elections come around. I think she knows (like Wayne Brown) that she is a one term mayor.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:40am
  - jkt
    
    She has transformed Wellington … no doubt about that.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:04am
  - peterwn
    
    She will hire a certain radio presenter turned lawyer to kneecap her political opponents.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:47am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Didn’t strike me that that lawyer was worth her $$$$ fee.
      
      The mayor choosing Linda Clark “despite their personal and business connections” had made the report’s neutrality questionable.
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/504243/five-wellington-councillors-breached-code-of-conduct-investigation-finds
      
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      April 30, 2024 12:20pm
  - Paulus
    
    What makes you think the Brown will be a one term Mayor ?
    Been doing your own poll ?
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:49pm
surfing

Anyone watch yesterday’s 6pm TV1 news item about yesterday’s poll?

That presenter should be sacked , she is simply awful and TVNZ have simply gone completely hysterical in their reporting against the right.
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April 30, 2024 8:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, two other polls due that that the coalition well ahead just 4 weeks ago, Parliament sat for just one week where zHipkins has been lambasted by his pathetic suggestion the wheels are falling off.
  
  The polls out soon surely have not dropped equally in a month when no one has been working accept ministers
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:40am
- Jack5
  
  Tomorrow, it will be 200 days since the General Election. TVNZ is still refusing to accept the will of the voters. It’s out to sabotage the election result.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:43am
- trout
  
  The TV1 poll and subsequent prognostications are cannot be taken seriously at this stage in the electoral cycle. What is more important will be the Coalition’ first budget to be presented in a few weeks, and the public response. The case could be made for a ‘Nordmeyer Black Budget’ in view of the parlous state of the country’s finances but the voters have become used to a Robertson ‘money tree lolly scramble’ – winding back expectations is a real challenge.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:27am
oldpark

Watching TVNZ Six o’clock news last night .
There was a woman ranting and raving about a recent poll that spent a disaster for the present Democratically Elected NZ Government .
I could only think to make such a raving out of control stance and doomsday comments on a NZ Taxpayer funded Television Station on her employer any which way without fear of consequences makes one wonder why, when she got employed how many others in TVNZ have the same mentality of an IQ of a Turnip.
Worth Checking Out at least .Asking for so many many viewers who switched off last nights anti Government rant masquerading as “NEWS”.
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April 30, 2024 8:20am
- Benedict Yu
  
  TVNZ is not a “taxpayer funded “television service”. It is a failing commercial television company. That’s the problem.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:39am
  - Grunter
    
    Owned by the State, therefore share funds come from the State (Taxpayers). It appears that they don’t hold any bank loans which is unusual for an entity of this size.
    
    So, clearly, this is a ‘taxpayer-funded’ entity. That made a -$8.8m loss last year after revaluing their land/buildings. Take away the taxpayer funds and this thing folds immediately (as it should).
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:14am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “therefore share funds come from the State”
      
      What capital objections has TVNZ received in the last decade? Zero. I stand by my statement.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:39am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        Been plenty of objections from this capital lad Ben…
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:08am
      - Cassandra
        
        TVNZ is not State funded. Its initial capital was from the Government decades ago. A few years ago it actually paid a dividend and was worth heaps. You’d sell it for a dollar these days. But that’s $1 less that Willis has to find…………
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:22am
      - jkt
        
        BDY
        Was that intended, then cool irony, otherwise – read before you post.
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:08am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She is a Māori activist, she could never have been hired as an impartial appointment
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:42am
  - Flossie
    
    I don’t know that it’s her ethnic origins that are the problem. She’s been well known for a very long time to be a left supporter. Remember the TV debates when she said “Chippy” was her friend so she had to give him the win?
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:09am
    - Burtland
      
      sherman was an american whaler
      
      https://e-tangata.co.nz/korero/maiki-sherman-holding-the-powerful-to-account/
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:48am
- Paulus
  
  Trying to out do Tova and a couple of other so called media “Ladies”.
  Getting competitive.
  
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  April 30, 2024 1:52pm
Matt Long

Retiring soft spoken former Herald Columnist Rachael Stewart promises to put the boot into journalists who harassed her for speaking out against radical trans hate of women.
I’d buy some rib protection in their place.
Further down the thread I was shocked to see that Lizzie Marvelly has been appointed permanent Chief of Girl Guides. There’s an organisation committing Hari Kari.
https://x.com/stew_rachel/status/1784707569128443944
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- lifesgood
  
  What!!? Lizzie Marvelly!!?? My god, hari kari indeed. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:28am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    It’s once again about indoctrination
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:43am
    - Sacha
      
      Girl Guides? They still exist? What about Boy Scouts?
      And Cubs?
      
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      April 30, 2024 12:52pm
      - lifesgood
        
        There was a great turn out of boy scouts and cubs at the Anzac Day parade in my suburb. I think girls can now join scouts so I see the girl guides collapsing soon, especially with that marxist clown in charge.
        
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        April 30, 2024 1:50pm
  - Paulus
    
    Did I not one read that she is a serious Lesbian ?
    And that for the Girls Guides – wow !
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:53pm
- Matt Long
  
  And the British NHS apparently regaining some sanity has banned the use of the word “chest feeding.”
  Hopefully the Cass report will be a watershed moment for the world, even the mystical woke Aotearoa.
  https://archive.ph/Ub02l
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:32am
  - jkt
    
    My six year old grand daughter suggested that I chest-feed my one year old grand daughter when her mother was out and she was inconsolable.
    
    There was a sparkle in her eye that brought pure joy for this very proud grandfather.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:16am
    - MCōs
      
      Something you should read
      https://coach.nine.com.au/fitness/manboobs-101/b80bd430-89ef-4d5a-b4be-2eebf60c3c51
      
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      April 30, 2024 12:58pm
- Notsofast
  
  On this topic we have a judgement from the UK in a case running two years. From the article:
  
  The judge said that the regulator had “allowed its processes to be subverted to punish and suppress” Meade’s lawful political speech, and to do so on grounds of her protected beliefs. In doing so it had violated her right to free speech as protected under human rights law.
  The judge added that the regulator had a “pre-ordained view” that Meade’s beliefs were “unacceptable”.
  
  https://archive.ph/2024.04.28-204947/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/social-worker-suspended-gender-critical-views-awarded-58000-2b7c337n7
  
  Victoria University should be appraised of this type of judgement when considering whether to ban our free speech union from campus and the postponed debate.
  I listened to Henry Broadbent explain that Jonathan Ayling somehow espoused Posie Parker’s totally out of context claim that trans women should be shot dead if discovered entering women’s bathrooms!
  James Broadbent also said she invited Nazis to her meetings, a claim that was costly for at least one Australian news outlet.
  
  https://youtu.be/f-umaZMMK00?si=WAL8Rvtsy4afc8St
  
  It was a lie, and of course it was repeated by our media and politicians a year ago.
  There has been no retraction of the lie.
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:36am
  - jkt
    
    Privy council.
    Great loss to our society, here in NZ.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:18am
  - Notsofast
    
    This is curious, the media complaint against Rachael Stewart was upheld for the last 3 words here being stated without supporting evidence:
    
    “Sure enough, American transgender lobby groups are being funded by the likes of billionaires Warren Buffett and George Soros. Why? Because investors want to help normalise the altering of basic human biology, and Big Pharma stands to make a fortune. It’s already started.”
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rachel-stewart-terf-a-derogatory-term-to-shut-down-debate/L5L4EDM35MNO6BAUIL4GVZWQFI/
    
    Of course she was correct then and more correct daily. 1 million US per mutilated and sterilised child over a dramatically shortened lifetime.
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:15pm
- Ehlana
  
  Chief Executive of Girl Guiding New Zealand. It’s a job.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:17am
Matt Long

Further benefits being reported from Pfizer shots;
Turbo Cancer? Check your engines.
https://x.com/PeterSweden7/status/1784900117859889382
Contagious dementia; CJD like prions.
Certainly there were plenty of mad cows pushing the shots and excluding the unvaccinated.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2024/04/29/prion-brain-diseases.aspx?ui=ab34ffc849b5aecfdc97a6462373395af2e5bee9a6849f1d5735764da8c6ba1a&sd=20160727&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20240429_HL2&foDate=false&mid=DM1560657&rid=7944752
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April 30, 2024 8:26am
- Grunter
  
  Most people still can not admit that there might be a problem with the jabs. It is just too horrible to even think about. They just want to ignore it as a scenario because the logical endpoint is the complete disintegration of everything they trust.
  
  IMO it is now very clear that the jabs are continuing to cause massive health issues. The recent peer-reviewed Japanese study is irrefutable evidence. And the fact that any debate gets closed down faster than a free speech forum tells me that the ‘Deciders’ know they have a problem.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:25am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Correct
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:17am
  - surfing
    
    Here, I’ll fix that for you….
    
    “Antivaxxers still can not admit that there are no problems with the jabs”
    
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    April 30, 2024 4:07pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  The author is a shameless fraud.
  
  https://science.feedback.org/reviewed-content-author/joseph-mercola/
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:43am
  - jkt
    
    Believer!
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:21am
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    Non believer?
    
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    April 30, 2024 4:19pm
artemisia

Waitangi Tribunal says Government’s change to Oranga Tamariki Act will create ‘actual harm’

Waitangi Tribunal resists a race based policy being removed. Because reasons.

Section 7AA …. ensured that Oranga Tamariki considered “the whakapapa (genealogy) of Māori children and . . . the whanaungatanga (familial) responsibilities of their whānau, hapū and iwi”, the Act reads.

The Waitangi Tribunal says it has seen no evidence of harm caused by the section facing repeal. However, the Tribunal has also not seen evidence that genealogy and familial responsibilities will no longer be an essential consideration of all decisions made by OT, regardless of ethnicity.

(Sounds like Oranga Tamariki will be keeping its name, not sure that sends a great message about New Zealand’s vulnerable children.)

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/waitangi-tribunal-says-government-s-section-7aa-change-in-oranga-tamariki-act-will-create-harm/
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- Benedict Yu
  
  It is a clash of different world views. They are irreconcilable.
  
  Let’s say a New Zealand child of Chinese ethnicity was orphaned. The child was fostered by a non Chinese couple. They eventually decide to adopt the child. Would the Chinese community in New Zealand go insane and use the courts to remove the child? Of course not. If the parents are competent they will easily find ways to connect the child with her Chinese culture.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:49am
  - Grunter
    
    I agree BY – Imagine if their nutty scheme was put in place for all races – all orphaned kids can only go to families of the same race. And mixed-race kids have to go to mixed-race parents of the same races…… where does it end?
    
    Once again Monty Python could have a field day on that one!
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:04am
  - jkt
    
    But a caring “same sex” Chinese couple may well be a better choice, right?
    
    Or is it an imperative that we breed multiculturalism out of our society. There is a good argument ……. or is there?
    
    Aussie tried it. Others tried the opposite. It failed ….. or did it, really. Hell, this is a slippery slope.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:28am
  - Taieri
    
    If the parents are competent they will easily find ways to connect the child with her Chinese culture.
    ————
    
    If the said child was, say, about 1 year old or so, he/she has no connection with Chinese culture. Or any other culture for that matter.
    
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    April 30, 2024 2:17pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    But there would be plenty of other ethnic groups that would object. If the rule is that children should be raised according to the standards of that ethnic group, then there can be different outcomes but based on the same overall rule.
    One classic example which comes up again and again, deals with the other end of life, death and burial customs. I have heard of several occasions where there has been a dispute between a pakeha widow and the relatives of the Māori deceased about how and where he should be buried, and the cousins just turn up and take the body against the wishes of the widow. I am pretty sure that is contrary to British common law where the physical remains are actually considered an asset of the estate and are “disposed of” by the executors of the estate.
    In every case I have heard of, even if they are asked to intervene, the police will do absolutely nothing to stop the relatives (who will be a large group of large men) from taking the body back to the ancestral marae.
    Messing around with long established customs about birth, marriage and death is exactly the right way to get major inter-ethnic strife.
    
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    April 30, 2024 5:51pm
    - julesnzuk
      
      People turn up and steal the body? And the widow can’t stop them simply because she’s ethnically European? If true that is outrageous. It’s a power play and nothing more on the part of the Maori thugs. But I find it hard to believe. The deceased’s last will and testament (which presumably includes burial plans) would be extant and if no will then it goes to probate ie the widow.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:42pm
- jkt
  
  Maybe the minister should have send some relevant news articles for consumption by the tribunal.
  Can’t really blame the tribunal for not reading what is reported in the media … can we?
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:36am
  - artemisia
    
    Maybe a box full of those cultural reports …
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:13pm
softail 1450

Artemisia, wow if that’s what giving up the liquor does for your appearance (I’m sure Tori was more attractive 12 months ago) I’m becoming even more committed to my couple of beers every evening.
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April 30, 2024 8:29am
- Local Miller
  
  Tori was more attractive when you were drunk? I don’t think I could drink that much.
  
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  April 30, 2024 2:29pm
  - jkt
    
    Poverty is a handicap when it comes to dating.
    The pool is much bigger when one is drunk’ish.
    
    Regret often follows…..
    
    😃
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:55pm
Scott

Watching TV1 news last night they lead with a full 15 minutes on the latest 1 news poll. They announced it was a major shock wave to the govt!
In fact National is down 2% from the last poll in Feb, Act down 1, NZ First down 1.8. So NZ First out of parliament, they said, Labour and the greens back in power! Oh joy!

Surely one has to look at trends? In the last poll in Feb, National was holding steady and Chris Hipkins was down 10 as preferred prime minister?
Given the margin of error of the poll is 3% surely we have to see a trend before we can announce the latest poll as “earth shattering”?

One wonders why this govt keeps funding tvnz? Especially as they seem to be operating as an unofficial opposition? They interviewed 4 or 5 people in the street and none of those selected supported the govt. Tv1 news appear to have abandoned even the pretence of objectivity.
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April 30, 2024 8:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  How does the Government fund TVNZ?
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:44am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The tax payer pays millions in fo they not?
    
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    April 30, 2024 8:46am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      What? Where?
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:50am
  - wsk12345
    
    What? Are you serious?
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:00am
  - oldpark
    
    @Benedict Yu 8.44am
    
    TVNZ (Television New Zealand) is funded through a combination of sources. Let me break it down for you:
    
    Advertising Revenue: TVNZ generates a significant portion of its funding from TV and digital advertising. Annually, it makes around $300 million from advertising1.
    Contestable Funds from NZ On Air: Some of TVNZ’s local programs are covered by contestable funds provided by NZ On Air1. NZ On Air is a government agency that funds local content across various media platforms, including television, radio, and digital.
    “Government Funding”: While TVNZ’s primary revenue comes from advertising, it also receives some funding from the public purse (i.e., “government funding”). However, the exact amount of “government funding” is not specified in the available information2.
    In summary, TVNZ’s funding model includes advertising revenue, contestable funds from NZ On Air, and” government support”. These sources enable TVNZ to produce and broadcast a diverse range of content for New Zealand audiences. 📺🇳🇿
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:28am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I am fully aware of New Zealand on Air. It funds all eligible media, not just programmes on TVNZ.
      
      My objection is to describing TVNZ as a “taxpayer funded tv station”. The clear inference is that it is a public broadcaster. It is not. It is a commercial broadcaster. The reason that it is in trouble is because it is failing commercially.
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:57am
      - Grunter
        
        Is TVNZ privately funded or owned? – No
        
        Is it Govt Owned – Yes (that we agree on)
        
        Whose capital (funds) does it rely upon to conduct business? – Taxpayers
        
        It does not matter when those taxpayer funds were injected. It is ‘Free’ money (no interest nor dividends).
        
        So it is clearly a “taxpayer-funded TV Station”
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:12am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        FFS is Kiwibank a “taxpayer funded bank”?
        
        Is QV a “taxpayer funded valuation company”?
        
        Of course not. What is the difference?
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:52am
      - Ra Henare
        
        Lets all take a deep breath.
        TVNZ and tax payer funded.
        
        1. TVNZ in all its forms and guises was started(funded) by the NZ government. One could say taxpayer money.
        
        2. TVNZ Operates as a commercial entity with a Board appointed by the Government.
        
        3. It could be argued that the Government helps TVNZ financially by buying large amounts of advertising at full rate and other other fiscal levers.
        
        So the argument, is it taxpayer funded, is moot and dependent on a point of view.
        
        It is definitely controlled(via board appointments and shareholdings and agreements) by the Government, ergo the taxpayer.
        
        https://corporate.tvnz.co.nz/assets/Uploads/TVNZ_AnnualReport_2023_WEB.pdf
        
        TVNZ has a share capital of $140 Mill.
        Ask yourself who provided that Capital.
        
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        April 30, 2024 12:37pm
  - Jack5
    
    The State, through NZ on Air, funds some TVNZ programmes.
    
    You can see in this month’s NZ on Air newsletter how it is still spending funds allocated by Labour in last year’s Budget.
    
    The second link shows Labour’s axing of $21 million in transmission charges by State-owned Kordia.
    
    Then there’s the Government forgoing dividends from TVNZ (see the “taste” of a report – third link below). That’s a bit like a subsidy.
    
    https://www.nzonair.govt.nz/news/april-2024-newsletter/
    
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2020/04/23/govts-50m-boost-for-news-media/
    
    https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/media/tvnz-scraps-dividend-as-profit-falls
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:29am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I am fully aware of New Zealand on Air.
      
      Yes it doesn’t pay a dividend. Neither does Kiwibank. Would you describe Kiwibank as a “taxpayer funded bank”?
      
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      April 30, 2024 9:59am
      - Grunter
        
        Kiwibank – yes, of course it is taxpayer/Govt funded. Same argument as TVNZ.
        
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        April 30, 2024 10:51am
      - Jack5
        
        Would you describe Kiwibank as a “taxpayer funded bank”?
        
        Bit of a leap there, Benedict: TV broadcaster to bank.
        
        The taxpayer has a big role in funding given that the guarantee of Kiwibank deposits was transferred from NZ Post to the Crown on 30 November 2022. This is qualified:
        
        Deposits in Kiwibank which were in place on 28 February 2017 remain covered by the Crown guarantee until they are withdrawn, renewed or otherwise reduced or repaid. Any new deposits made after the guarantee termination date don’t have the benefit of the guarantee.
        
        Of ownership:
        
        – 79.3 per cent is owned by a State-owned Kiwi Group Capital Ltd.
        
        – the rest seems to be fairly widely held.
        
        Given that the NZ Government over a century more than once bailed out the BNZ, which is now Australian-owned, I doubt that it would let Kiwibank fail.
        
        So let’s say Kiwibank’s as good as Government funded.
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:20am
      - Ra Henare
        
        Ben, not your usual critical thinking self.??
        
        Throwing red Herrings(ie Kiwibank) in to the argument is weird. Yes. Kiwibank is Taxpayer/Government funded.
        
        So what?
        
        Xero didnt pay a dividend for at least 20 ish years.
        
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        April 30, 2024 12:41pm
      - Paulus
        
        Yes, and has been from inception via different taxpayer sources.
        
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        April 30, 2024 1:57pm
  - Jack5
    
    Also, according to the half-year report, TVNZ is writing down about $12 million in asset values.
    
    That’s a cost, a loss, to the owner, the State.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:37am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    By not demanding a proper return on equity…. That is in effect a subsidy when compared to privately owned businesses.
    It is not a start up and should be making a average or better market return fir its owners.
    
    You are right it is not funded in the manner of RNZ, but it is still funded in its capital structure by taxpayers.
    
    It needs selling for what the givernment can get, with funds released applied to NZs appalling debt
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:15am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      It needs selling, or shutting down because it is failing commercial business owned by the State.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:54am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        Correct… but more than that.
        
        The State shouldnt be in the news or entertainment businesses.
        
        Its not needed and it shouldnt be using taxpayers funds, which are generated via coercion, on bread & circuses (entertainment) or propaganda (news)
        
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        April 30, 2024 4:12pm
  - Graeme Hall
    
    Advertising campaigns. Take Govt & Local Body advertising out of the MSM & they would have to go to subscriptions or fold.
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:08pm
  - miltonF
    
    You have to be kidding me BY.
    
    Some of your comments make me extremely suspicious.
    
    You seem like an intelligent person, yet so many of your comments are completely off-base. I find it hard to believe, in fact almost impossible that someone would not know that TVNZ is taxpayer funded??
    
    So where is this faux ignorance coming from? Because this is a trend with you. Are you actually some kind of globalist, socialist plant? Paid to spend time on this site attempting to misinform and manipulate public opinion? Is this why you so desperately defend the “vaccine” in the face of literally damning evidence?
    
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    April 30, 2024 6:06pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  As I have been saying Morgan probably this week, and Curia to follow, last month both had coalition holding strong, and no way has support dropped in one month
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:45am
  - lifesgood
    
    Ahh, but will Maiki celebrate if the coalition is holding strong? Will she heck as like.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Best not to watch TVNZ or 3.
  Good for your mental health. I do watch TV1 breakfast only because the speaker of the house insists. Other than than no local TV for me.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:23am
  - Philview
    
    Fortunately I watched 3 last night and no mention of the poll. TV3 has a lot more news stories than TV1.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:19am
    - MCōs
      
      They have/had their own polls to gush over
      Both of the channels love polls such as the one on TV1 last night because they’re good for business
      “Make sure to watch at 6pm and see which major party is diving in our latest poll!”
      The last thing they want is no change whatsoever
      They don’t care who’s going any which way as long as someone is and the more the better
      
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      April 30, 2024 1:23pm
- Local Miller
  
  Well they showed the 4 or 5 people on the street who didn’t support the govt. We have no idea how many they interviewed before they had 4 or 5 the were prepared to show.
  
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  April 30, 2024 2:32pm
Matt Long

So proud to see my local ward member standing strong against proles having democratic rights to vote on race based wards on the Northland Regional Council.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/ldr/515134/northland-council-continues-four-year-maori-ward-fight-in-face-of-government-changes
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April 30, 2024 8:35am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Controversial DA Refuses to Prosecute Trump.

Fani Willis has decided that she does not want to be shafted when Trump wins in November. She realises that these witch hunts are political and don’t want her arse burnt.
Comments are interesting.

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/controversial-da-refuses-to-prosecute-trump-04-29-2024/?
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April 30, 2024 8:35am
Maggie Pie

We watched the BOLT REPORT last nite.
There was a panel discussion about the growing and disruptive anti-semetic ‘Pro Palestine’ demonstrations now on the rise at Australian and New Zealand Universities.

Comment of the evening….. “Vice Chancellors of Universities used to be intellectual giants. Now they’re pygmies and cowards”

LOL!!
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April 30, 2024 8:38am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Domes up Robertson to a tee
  
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  April 30, 2024 8:50am
- Chuck Bird
  
  AFAIK there have not been pro Palestine protests at NZ Universities.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:29am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Come on Chuck….keep up!
    
    https://scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2403/S00076/students-and-activists-protest-us-diplomats-victoria-university-lecture.htm
    
    You don’t think the hardcore anti-semites that infest our campusses would let the chance go by… do you? Watch what happpens down Otago come July 🙁
    
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    April 30, 2024 12:44pm
- Ra Henare
  
  It seems to me that many are not “reading the room””.
  
  Universities/ young people have always been sources of activism/protest.
  
  I well remember the Vietnam war protests.
  Especially when Spiro Agnew US VP came to Auckland.
  
  There is a similarity between then and now.
  
  Students are reacting to scenes of carnage in a war situation.
  
  So Anti USA for bombing Vietnamese Villages.
  So Anti Israel for bombing Gaza.
  
  If you have locked yourself in to believing all the protestors are anti semites. Then I suggest you have learnt nothing from history.
  
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  April 30, 2024 12:49pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well I’m sorry Ra…but the things you are talking
    about happened b4 I was even born!
    
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    April 30, 2024 3:19pm
Matt Long

More than 50,000 Nigerian Christians killed by Islamists since 2010. Here’s one of them.
But hey, let’s ban Jews from Universities, clearly they’re a real and present danger.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1784569845029417351
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April 30, 2024 8:39am
- Che Guava
  
  The difference is that the US government isn’t beholden to the Islamic lobby and aren’t sponsoring Islamists to kill Christians, but they are beholden to the Jewish and Israeli Lobbies and are sponsoring Jews to kill Arabs, some of whom are Christians.
  
  While the students have every right to feel horror towards the IDF and sympathy towards Gazan civilians in isolation, what makes it 100 times worse is the indispensable role played by the US.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:31am
- imalwaysright
  
  M.L
  
  Good point. The attacks on Christians are rarely reported in the same manner as attacks on Islamists.
  Tarrant was given worldwide extended forensic coverage but the retaliatory attacks the following Easter, where over five times as many people were murdered, were paid comparative lipservice.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:35am
  - Che Guava
    
    Have you ever noticed, despite their citing the notion of Judeo-Christianity to gain support for Israel, you’ll rarely hear Jews condemning attacks on or persecution of Christians, which is far more prevalent than attacks on Jews? No doubt Netanyahu will be coming out any moment to condemn these crimes against Christians.
    
    In fact, there are even prominent Israelis who would like to see Christians punished with prison time for trying to convert Jews.
    
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
    
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    April 30, 2024 12:21pm
    - jkt
      
      The position of pope is not yet ready for auditions.
      
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      April 30, 2024 4:23pm
BananaLlama

Hopefully the latest poll is a wakeup call for the government. By refusing to chop government departments and get inflation under control quickly they have decided to go with an incremental approach and get voted out of government instead.
Better Chop Chop Luxon or you will be a one term PM.
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April 30, 2024 8:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  PM Luxon has done a few things but he shys away from stopping the Maorification of NZ. The changing of English names to Maori.
  He also needs to start the abolition of the Waitangi Tribunal. They serve no purpose other than apartheid.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:29am
  - BananaLlama
    
    Why National supporters are still forced to fund government broadcasting when it is entirely hostile towards them is beyond me.
    The only ones suffering job cuts and hardships right now should be those that are government funded and not the general public who have done it hard under Labour during covid and are being asked do it hard again under National.
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:37am
Rusty

Is there an irony when TVNZ and NewsHub announce National is down in the polls considering their own falling viewership?
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April 30, 2024 8:57am
kowtow

In addition to tv1’s Sherman and her raving ( dreadful diction) hyperbole over their own self generated “news” , there’s an awful lot of te media paahti , commentary about Paula Bennet’s job for the boys appointment …..

that’s rich , where were they over Mallard , King and Goff cushey appointments ?
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April 30, 2024 8:59am
- nathie
  
  Off the top of my head, in recent times Labour also appointed the likes of:
  
  Steve Maharey.
  Heather Simpson (sure not an MP but incredibly influential).
  Ruth Dyson.
  Louisa Wall.
  Maryan Street(?).
  Mark Gosche.
  Pete Hodgson.
  
  And possibly several others that are under the MSM radar!
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:19am
  - lifesgood
    
    Heather Simpson may not have been elected but we all know she was the deputy PM in effect.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:57am
    - Jack5
      
      A couple of months ago Winston Peters appointed Heather Simpson to the board of Antarctica New Zealand.
      
      The comment of David Farrar at the time:
      
      The appointment of Heather Simpson is especially interesting. She is also very capable, and very no nonsense. I suspect she is partly there to sort out the cost blowouts on the Scott Base rebuild. The staff responsible should be somewhat nervous!
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:18am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Are we assuming that Simpson and Clark have been innocent bystanders for the last six years?
        Look at the individual and collective IQ of our previous government. There is absolutely no way that they could formulate even the simplest piece of legislation never mind the draconian regime that was implemented step by step in accordance with the Marxist ideology.
        
        Adern was our Biden.
        
        Clark is our Obama
        
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        April 30, 2024 11:44am
    - Cassandra
      
      And the most capable of the lot.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:25am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      H2.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And let’s not forget family members that ended up in cushy government appointments…
    
    e.g. Tipa Mahuta
    https://gazette.govt.nz/notice/id/2022-go4787
    
    https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz/about/our-team/maori-advisory-group/
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:11am
  - Bevan
    
    Flew under the MSM radar? Or they just decided not to frame their reporting as something scandalous?
    
    If this was National, there would be daily reporting on the topic.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:41am
  - david
    
    You forget Annette King, Phil Goff, Gerry Wall……
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It’s different when the left do it.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:30am
- MCōs
  
  I don’t know that Paula Bennett would consider herself one of the ‘boys’
  
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  April 30, 2024 1:41pm
Yvette

So ACT or New Zealand First dropped a little, reflecting Winston being overseas and Seymour seemingly diverted

But Maori themselves may reignite ACT or New Zealand First’s fuse –

Omāhu Marae near Hastings will host the Hui Taumata on May 31.
Kiingi Tūheitia Pōtatau Te Wherowhero VII will attend.
Kotahitanga or unity is expected to be a key theme again as iwi Māori unite against the coalition Government.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350208252/ngati-kahungunu-host-next-hui-maori-unity

… Kiingitanga spokesperson Rahui Papa said the Tūrangawaewae hui was a call from the Māori King to unite on issues that were “coming thick and fast” from the coalition Government.
“We saw the power of a united iwi Māori. We now need to move to the next taumata or level where we can map out what constitutional arrangements will collectively move Māori to the mana motuhake and tino rangatiratanga we aspire to,” he said.

And the timing of ACT’s proposed bill may be critical
Its raison d’être is the muddying of roles and rights by Labour policies – 3 Waters’ Maori Advisory Council religious worldview and ‘co-governance’ in particular.

It should of course not mention Maori.
It should just assert
• the right of Government to govern
• protect property rights
• re-assert democratic voting, rights and responsibilities

and add that
• New Zealand Government is secular

Couched in those terms, National should support such a bill as they otherwise – along with Kiingi Tūheitia Pōtatau Te Wherowhero VII and his unity movement – would need to explain why they oppose the three ACT points, and hopefully the fourth (individuals can practice religion, but not Governments, especially when that lifts one minority ethnic view above all others)
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April 30, 2024 8:59am
- Damocles11
  
  Why do these Hui never address real and pressing issues impacting on Maori? ‘Attack something’ seems to be the reflex action, redolent of the ‘war party attacking neighbouring tribes’ mentality. ‘Attack the colonist government’ is the mindset they lock into with all possible relish and vigour, and we can expect impassioned haka with all the usual tongue poking and eye-rolling, and the standard loud inflammatory rhetoric as well.
  The real and pressing issues that should instead be addressed are:
  – Reducing Maori infanticide rates.
  – Reducing the Maori prison population.
  – How to instil respect for law and order.
  – The supreme value of mahi and mana.
  The Maori mindset is all about fighting and aggressive posturing. This is the problem. There should be a place for sober discussion and self awareness, a reflection on the sorry state Maoridom finds itself in. Crime should be strongly repudiated by tribal leaders. Difficult conversations should be had regarding ‘by Maori, for Maori’ solutions to the shocking statistics and appalling offending. Maori are too proud / obstinate / lacking in self awareness to do what is needed unfortunately; the leadership are driven by venality and hate rather than pure and sensible thinking.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:28am
  - lifesgood
    
    Am I the only person who cringes at the haka. I can’t think of a worse way to greet visiting guests than poking out your tongue, threatening them and eye rolling. They act like a bunch of uneducated primitives. Hmmm, if the shoe fits. I can imagine the guests later conversations. Why do the majority citizens of New Zealand have to be represented this way. It’s damn embarrassing.
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Am I the only person who cringes at the haka
      
      No, not at all.
      
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      April 30, 2024 10:56am
    - Yvette
      
      Am I the only person who cringes at the haka.
      
      No. And you will have noticed that television sports presentations frequent show teams doing the haka rather than playing the relevant sport.
      Such normalisation is not normal, and just as continued use of glibly dashed off Maori imperatives to ‘stay around’ or tell them ‘what is next’ irritates the hell out of a lot of people at a near subconscious level which is doing considerable social damage – ‘Maoridom’ now makes me cringe, I realise.
      Yep, it is what it wasn’t
      
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      April 30, 2024 11:16am
  - julesnzuk
    
    All this, Damocles. Also – Maori are being encouraged (mostly by dopey left wing Europeans) to see themselves as victims by default. Indeed, victims by definition – they cannot escape it. The cult of victimology – where one doesn’t have to take responsibility for oneself – appears to be very seductive for them. Yet it robs them of agency and consigns them to permanent low status. Where the hell is the pride or mana in that?
    
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    April 30, 2024 9:51pm
- MCōs
  
  ‘New Zealand First dropped a little, reflecting Winston being overseas’
  Are you saying NZF are lucky Winston’s been overseas?
  
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  April 30, 2024 1:43pm
- Paulus
  
  Is it not so that such as Morgan and his Tainui cohorts are trying to get Maori Unified under a King (you know who) as they feel that they will have greater powers under one King along with King Charles for renegotiation of the Treaty of Waitangi.
  Don’t ask Ngai Tahu what they think about Tainui !
  
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  April 30, 2024 2:12pm
  - Nobby2
    
    Ask Arawa what they think of Tainui and the maori king !!!
    
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    April 30, 2024 4:16pm
Maggie Pie

An absolute ‘must watch’

More than 40 million views in the last 24 hours!
And it’s thanks to Elon Musk’s committment to FREE SPEECH that we are able watch it. People are saying there’s no doubt that had Jacinda still been PM, she would have issued a ‘take-down order’ on X.

https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1784264775574188371
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April 30, 2024 9:02am
- Yvette
  
  ”The Great Replacement is not a theory – it’s reality” – Eva Vlaardingerbroek
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywTjt3PQwD0 – where it can be downloaded
  
  Eva Vlaardingerbroek explains it so much more eloquently and logically, with supporting evidence, than did terrorist Brenton Tarrant
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:37am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Maggie Pie,
  Thank you for bringing that to our attention.
  You are correct; it is a “must watch”.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Thankyou for that link Maggie.
  Some very strong words from Eva Vlaardingerbroek. She tells it like it is.
  Many years ago Ronald Reagan said words similar. The trouble will come from within, the Govts and people can not stop it.
  Ardern would never allow that to be seen in NZ. Why? Because the threat is happening inside now.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:01am
- MCōs
  
  Sounds similar to the antisemitism rhetoric popularized in Germany in the early thirties that I’m just reading about
  
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  April 30, 2024 2:34pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Tulsi Gabbard with PragerU.

This woman was a Democrat and dumped them. She has some dam good ideas. Hard on education failing. Promoting her book of coarse. “For love of Country.”
It is 1 hour. I have not watched all, just skipped through. I will absorb it this afternoon.

https://www.prageru.com/video/tulsi-gabbard-on-how-to-save-america-from-washington-elites?
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April 30, 2024 9:07am
Paul Marsden

Whatever morsel of credibility Simon Dallow may have had before reading last nights bizarre, ‘breaking news’ story on TV1 News, it has now surely gone. A news reader of credibility and standing would have refused to have read it.
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April 30, 2024 9:43am
- Inandout
  
  Paul, in future known as Simon Shallow.
  
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  April 30, 2024 9:59am
- Maggie Pie
  
  He was even too much of a pussy for Ali to handle 😀
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:14am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    That is GOLD!
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:18am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    It’s no wonder that Ali left him for someone who was more masculine.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:33am
    - lifesgood
      
      Nice one! I’ve always wondered what sort of man has a wife who leaves him for a woman. I kind of feel sorry for him, I mean, how embarrassing!
      
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      April 30, 2024 12:24pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Would have to look at his employment contract first re refusal to read certain news items as written.
  Anyway, he could well have been totally on board with the Sherman tank’s roll over tactics.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:16am
- Clyde
  
  The “news” at 6pm last night was an orchestrated beat-up. Everyone who thought so should immediately make a formal complaint to TVNZ and then follow up with a similar complaint to the BSA when TVNZ says it was all good quality news.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:46am
  - James Stephenson
    
    Yeah, good luck with that. As can be seen from the last round of Media Council decisions. Lefty rants by Campbell based entirely on his personal imagined interpretation of events get a pass, where right-leaning commentary from the likes of Eric Crampton get ruled against for the nit-pickiest reasons.
    
    The whole establishment system in this country leans left in a way that makes Pisa’s tower look the epitome of vertical precision.
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:28pm
- DimChappie
  
  The One News report shows their hatred of the Coalition clearly. Think they deserve any public funds? Here it is for those who missed it:
  https://youtu.be/jrp2RkMimYo
  
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  April 30, 2024 1:44pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Thanks Dim.
    
    First 3 minutes were as to be expected.
    The tipping point for me was when the journo said
    This result will rock parliament!!
    
    Yea right should have been the reply.
    
    Presume she will rattle on about rogue poll when subsequent polls ofset this result.
    
    Not holding my breath.
    
    PS. Shows the depth or lack thereof of TVNZ news when the item took more than 20% of the news time.
    
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    April 30, 2024 2:08pm
rockape

I have never been so disappointed in a news organisation as I have in NZ, especially 1 news. I am compiling a list of their advertisers and intend to write to them expressing my annoyance and informing them I will be boycotting their products. I will aim to publicise that list in the next couple of weeks so others can do the same. I am a great believer in fighting fire with fire.
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April 30, 2024 10:00am
- Inandout
  
  rock, skipping through our recorded The Chase I see fewer business ads and more promos. Once the ads took a lot of scrolling through and my wife used to comment ‘how do people sit through all that stuff?’. Advertisers seek those shows which draw the biggest number of viewers and those programmes do not include One News.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:13am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Noticed that the ‘infomercial’ stuff has started popping up there periodically – prime time ad’s getting highly discounted?
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:52am
- Paul Marsden
  
  Interesting you should mention that. I have been noting any business who advertises in, or around TV1News for the last couple of years, and I make sure they are on my list of businesses to avoid.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:23am
Ehlana

In other breaking climate news, we are solemnly warned to expect colder temperatures this week.

By Saturday, it may be just 9 degrees in the morning in Auckland.
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April 30, 2024 10:20am
- Cassandra
  
  The climate is changing, for some as yet unexplained reason. As usual. Forever.
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:29am
  - Burtland
    
    when I was a kid it had to do with the planets – today its from driving your car
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:35am
  - Paulus
    
    Called in English, Autumn !
    
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    April 30, 2024 2:14pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  In past years in Auckland I have been slightly sunburnt (I rarely burn) and I have seen large hailstones. It is called “weather.” Sure the climate changes, that is 4 times a year.
  Weather has always been with us.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:09am
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

One of the girls from tennis reckons that OneEwes political editor Maki Sherman’s hubby…. is David Seymours ‘Chief-of-Staff’

Does anyone know if that’s ACTually troo?
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April 30, 2024 10:26am
- Ghost
  
  Andrew Ketels is married to, or engaged to Jenna Lynch
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:29am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    OMG!! If that’s troo, what about the likelyhood of pillow talk?
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:38am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, start here. Maki obviously reads and breeds.
  https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/parenting/family/maiki-sherman-introduces-baby-number-six-onoaio-47161/
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:32am
  - zulumonster
    
    MG – I got to “māmā” and gave up
    
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    April 30, 2024 3:08pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    A busy life
    
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    April 30, 2024 10:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  That is not true.
  
  Maiki Sherman has been with Anaru MacDougall for yonks.
  
  https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/parenting/family/maiki-sherman-introduces-baby-number-six-onoaio-47161/
  
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  April 30, 2024 10:45am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!! Thx Mags
    Just sent the link to Prue…. she obviously has her chanels mixed up.
    
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    April 30, 2024 11:21am
surfing

Once were warriors doing their thing.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/boy-13-left-bruised-and-needing-psychological-help-after-being-attacked-waiting-for-bus/I3HGMQVXTFDBDHIXCWVJSJCYUA/

Luxon said he was going to sort out these gang bangers. Still waiting….
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April 30, 2024 10:27am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He might lose votes.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:18am
- Bernard Black
  
  So the mother called police as the scum were still hanging around, but police were too busy to attend.
  She should have said someone is painting over a rainbow crossing, the would have been there in minutes!
  
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  April 30, 2024 5:14pm
- Ghost
  
  Do you expect anyone can turn crime around within a fewmontha? You’d be stupid if you think this mess can be turned around within the first term.
  
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  April 30, 2024 5:22pm
Inandout

How the new was once read, just as written.
https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/reading-the-news-1966
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April 30, 2024 10:28am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Quite pleasant back then.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:21am
- surfing
  
  Crikey, Philip Sherry’s eyebrows were giant caterpillars even when he was young.
  
  What’s with all the posh british accents?
  
  And the Tiwai Pt electricity price was a huge debate, before it was built! 40 years later… still debating.
  
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  May 1, 2024 12:38pm
Swifty

Oh look, just a short while after I posted about this recently:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dog-behaviour-specialist-mark-vette-suggests-regulations-for-pack-dog-walkers-after-mauling/WDRO3EZXBFF4DEQM3MC342BXP4/

Free society my arse. Just watch assorted pollies pick this up and stand on this issue.

In fifty years we’ll need permission from the government merely to bloody breathe.

“Your safety is our number one priority” they’ll say.
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April 30, 2024 10:32am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Sounds like a bad apple dog walker.
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:51am
  - wsk12345
    
    Frankly it’s surprising there are not more issues when people are walking 6-12 dogs at a time. Those dogs all get to know each other and if a stranger dog comes along and causes strife you better believe they will respond as a pack.
    Nobody can break up the fight if it involves th at many dogs and will get injured just getting amongst it.
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:58pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      12 dogs is insane. 4 dogs seems about right. Maybe 5 or 6 at the most if they are small dogs.
      
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      April 30, 2024 2:57pm
      - jkt
        
        The bloody carbon footprint.👣
        770kgCO2 per year for an average dog.
        Man’s best friend?
        
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        April 30, 2024 6:44pm
      - wsk12345
        
        There are plenty of outfits in chch that walk dogs. One I know takes 12 at a time, annother takes 7 (van capacity in crates). Others take 6. I doubt it’s economic to take less than that.
        
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        April 30, 2024 6:48pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      RSPCA in UK recommends walking no more than 4 dogs at a time.
      
      https://www.rspca.org.uk/webContent/staticImages/Downloads/DogWalkingGuide.pdf
      
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      April 30, 2024 4:38pm
  - Paul
    
    It was a Lone Wolf event, apparently……
    
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    May 1, 2024 1:03am
Master Mariner

A thought provoking article about Globalisation and Nordstream pipeline.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/29/globalization-nordstream-russia-ukraine-germany-putin-sabotage/
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April 30, 2024 10:39am
Benedict Yu

This is from February, but I just came across it. Tod Muller celebrates the legacy of James Shaw, especially the bipartisan support for the Zero Carbon Act.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/01-02-2024/todd-muller-my-friend-james-shaw-embodied-the-best-of-nz-politics

IMO bipartisan support for the Zero Carbon Act has not yet been tested. It hasn’t done anything painful yet. 🤡

Let’s wait until 2027, when the Paris Accord obligations come into sharp focus, rather than being rainbow apparitions way out in the future. We will see how support stacks up when the bill comes due.
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April 30, 2024 10:48am
Yvette

VERIAN – Powering decisions that shape the world

Through polling?
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April 30, 2024 11:29am
Ghost

Good interview

“Legend” is a former US Army Intel NCO and key member of Vets4NRF (National Resistance Front of Afghanistan). Legend joined the US Army at age seventeen and served on multiple deployments to the Middle East under the Department of of Defense during the Global War on Terror. He now supports the NRF, the last resistance against Taliban rule in the region.

Legend is risking his anonymity to bring information to light for the American people. Much in line with recently surfaced news reports, he provides an alternate account of the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. Most frighteningly, he reveals that the United States is sending over forty million taxpayer dollars, per week, directly to the Taliban regime. Legend also shares the growing threats that Chinese alliances are building in the region.

YouTube
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April 30, 2024 11:33am
- Jake Dee
  
  I’ve got to admit that I haven’t watched the video and am probably not going to BUT this Vets4NRF looks like a very spooky operation, cloak and dagger black ops destabilization outfit. Exactly what the USA should stop doing in central Asia.
  They lost Afghanistan, now they need to get over it. If Afghanistan and the Taliban fall under Chinese influence it will be a great win for humanity and civilization. What are the Chinese going to do in Afghanistan? They are going to do what they always do, mine minerals, build railways, highways, power plants and hospitals. Afghanis sending their brightest kids to study in Chinese universities is the fastest way to cure the Taliban of its medieval foolishness.
  
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  April 30, 2024 6:22pm
Ehlana

“Currently, a dog walker has the same legal responsibilities as an owner. This includes keeping the dogs in their care under control at all times and ensuring the dogs do not attack any person or animal.

“This means the dog walker is responsible for deciding whether it is appropriate to walk any one or more particular dogs and can be held accountable if an incident occurs.”

Seems we already have the appropriate regulations. The person responsible for the dogs at the time of the attack needs to be held responsible under them. The business probably needs investigating too and should be able to be sued as its activities have caused loss and damage to bystanders.

Preferably with something stronger than a wet bus ticket.
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April 30, 2024 11:41am
- Benedict Yu
  
  What source are you quoting?
  
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  April 30, 2024 11:46am
  - Ehlana
    
    Sorry, missed that out. It was in the Herald article: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dog-behaviour-specialist-mark-vette-suggests-regulations-for-pack-dog-walkers-after-mauling/
    
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    April 30, 2024 1:07pm
Benedict Yu

I appreciate that even parents of errant children grieve their tragic deaths.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350261565/teen-driver-killed-wrong-way-crash-after-fleeing-police

However the teenager was objectively not “kind and loving”. He acted like a maniac and caused mayhem. It would be instructive to find out whether the family could have predicted this disaster and do something to stop it.
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April 30, 2024 11:45am
- Prince
  
  I see the IPCA is conducting an investigation even though the Police gave up the chase (perhaps because of that ?).
  Maybe any Govt Dept funding this character and his family should also conduct an independent review.And Justice Dept looking into previous incidents.
  
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  April 30, 2024 12:23pm
- mandk
  
  I don’t think being kind and loving on one hand, and being a young idiot on the other, are mutually exclusive conditions.
  
  The late Celia Lashlie once said: “One boy, one brain. Two boys, half a brain.”
  
  In this case, one could probably add: “Three boys, no brain at all”.
  
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  April 30, 2024 2:29pm
Maggie Pie

Depths to which this country has sunk under left-led governments & councils.

https://twitter.com/theplatform_nz/status/1785021822393782301

What a disgrace! We must never let it happen again.
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April 30, 2024 11:47am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Almost exactly 6 years to the day since Jacinda pledged to end homelessness.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/04/jacinda-ardern-pledges-shelter-for-all-homeless-people-within-four-weeks
  
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  April 30, 2024 12:52pm
  - MCōs
    
    Phil Twyford made the announcement
    I doubt if anyone believed him of all people
    
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    April 30, 2024 3:30pm
- Gravelroad
  
  If you spend all the money you have available on drugs and alcohol from an early age, there often is none left to pay for somewhere pleasant to live.
  
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  April 30, 2024 12:59pm
  - MCōs
    
    The three or fours guys I’ve seen over the years hanging round the local shops in a shambolic state are quite obviously not the full quid
    
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    April 30, 2024 3:36pm
- MCōs
  
  A couple of people and a dog sleeping outside a 7-eleven somewhere and the sky comes crashing down
  I saw a bloke sleeping outside our local library the other day. Saw him again a few days later under some blankets on Main Street.
  As I walked by a head popped out and bade me a good morning!
  Doesn’t he know Wayne & Simeon are in charge of local government now?
  Soft on vagrants Phil & Kieran have been given the heave ho
  
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  April 30, 2024 3:27pm
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350261285/father-jailed-callous-murder-vulnerable-8-month-old-daughter
“He told police he sat the baby up and put his left hand behind her head to balance her while punching her again. It is likely this final punch that was the fatal blow.”
So this “man” punched his baby because he felt angry.
Why couldn’t he have got a punchbag from the gym?
There is no hope for people like him, no matter how much cultural or background spin is put up as an excuse.
And the partner stood by him. Better the baby be beaten than her, being the rationale I guess.
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April 30, 2024 12:47pm
- imalwaysright
  
  “Justice O’Gorman said the victim impact statement expressed remarkable forgiveness.”
  
  Is she psychic? The victim is an eight month old baby.
  
  The baby lived in terror.
  The baby cried when she saw him coming.
  
  I can’t understand how scum like this make it to the safety of police custody. Any civilised society would tear him to pieces and flush him down the nearest toilet.
  
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  April 30, 2024 3:01pm
Hugh Jarse

Maiki, looking forward to seeing your performance when the next poll comes out supporting gate coalition and measuring that against your excited histrionics from last night

By the way a majority of the public voted for the coalition implementing all the policies they campaigned on at the election and dealing with the economic issues that your preferred government created. You might not like it but that’s the reality.

Can we now say that TV 1 news has reached peak over reach and it’s time to privatise them or have they got further to fall and we have to lose more taxpayer funding.
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April 30, 2024 1:03pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Privatise them by just stopping their tax-payer funding. Simple.
  
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  April 30, 2024 1:52pm
Inandout

Gravel, I couldn’t find a name for this person from the Islands.
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April 30, 2024 1:14pm
slightlyrighty

what’s with the Greens uniform in Parliament?
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April 30, 2024 2:15pm
- Piticus
  
  Possibly to do with Efiso Collin’s eulogies
  
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  April 30, 2024 3:07pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  They wanted to go with Brown Shirts but they thought that too passé…..?
  
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  April 30, 2024 3:25pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Maybe my comment last month about them all looking
  like ‘a pack of unwashed grubs’ struck a nerve?
  
  Ma reckons Lux may have donated them some
  old AirNZ uniforms he had stashed away 😀
  
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  April 30, 2024 3:43pm
Piticus

Just watching Parliament’s question time – it appears it’s cross-dressing day at Te Pati Maori
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April 30, 2024 2:30pm
Jethrod

Can David F indicate that when polling companies do polls, are the questions always the same as previous polls? Or do the questions change to suit the climate of the time?
By changing the questions , I believe you would skew the poll in the direction you want to achieve.
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April 30, 2024 2:55pm
Chuck Bird

I sent some questions to the CCC so they may be prepared when I attend the meeting at Te Awamutu tomorrow. This is part of the answer they sent me. They do not know how science works. It is about debate, not consensus.

I have just thought of another question. Have you heard about the boy who cried WOLF?

These people do not understand how science works.

“The only antidote to pseudo-science is science itself”

Carl Sagan

The Commission primarily draws upon the consensus view of the scientific understanding of climate change that is based upon these recognised peer-review processes. In addition to looking at the science, we also work to understand lived experience, and talk to people to inform our advice – in this instance through these workshops being held as part of our consultation.”

Nga mihi,

Emme
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April 30, 2024 3:26pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  It’s just their way of telling you that they know best.
  The ‘consensus view’ is what they decide it is.
  The ‘Climategate’ emails tell us that peer review of ‘climate science’ papers is not a level playing field.
  
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  April 30, 2024 5:33pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thanks. I will be telling them consensus is not how science should work.
    
    I will ask if they heard of Alfred Wegener and of course Galileo.
    
    When Continental Drift Was Considered Pseudoscience
    
    More than 100 years ago, a German scientist was ridiculed for advancing the shocking idea that the continents were adrift
    
    Alfred Wegener, in Greenland, c. 1930, was ridiculed as having “wandering pole plague.”
    
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    April 30, 2024 5:47pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Perhaps instead of lecturing them back, might I suggest you quote Science to them?
      https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/
      Especially the part where WG1 talks about warming is within natural variability and there is no increase in extreme weather events etc
      And for a bonus what they say about Methane
      
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      April 30, 2024 6:30pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Thank you.
        
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        April 30, 2024 8:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
Mana or Mana. Muriel Newman. NZCPR.
“Church and State should be separated” Julian Batchelor is a Minister and Evangelist.
Look at the extortion of Meridian!

Iwi demands for power and control are becoming extortionate and we outline the growing concerns about the danger that lies ahead once iwi gain title to New Zealand’s coastline.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/join-the-dots-how-iwi-are-inching-towards-taking-total-control/?
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April 30, 2024 4:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  https://www.nzcpr.com/mana-or-money/
  Julian Batchelor on NZCPR.
  
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  April 30, 2024 4:28pm
greybeard

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/qatars-billion-dollar-bid-to-buy-rugby-disappointing-but-inevitable-gregor-paul/J4CIVENGCBDP7FX5G3UVLQ5UIQ/

Of COURSE all the rugby nations will agree to a competition in Qatar ! All of the administrators, boards, managers, politicians and associated bodies will jump at the chance of free first-class air fares, free hotels, free everything to turn up and have their bellies rubbed by the filthy-rich Qatari.

Qatar has nothing to offer the world but oil dollars. They BUY success, popularity and acclamation.

They are the supreme sports pimps !

I bet even Grant Robertson will try to grease his way into a couple of months holiday to see such a rugby competition, despite his “handicap”.
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April 30, 2024 4:26pm
- Mike
  
  I’m all fot it, so long as Al Jazeera televises it free to air in NZ.
  
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  April 30, 2024 6:41pm
70andstilllearning

So Chippie will no longer get paid as much as a Minister for his LotO position!

“Remuneration Authority chair Geoff Summers said the smaller increases for the Leader of the Opposition recognised the greater role of small parties in Opposition under MMP.”

Is this a way of being told your position isn’t that important these day?

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/pay-day-for-mps-pm-christopher-luxon-to-get-50k-more-in-rolling-pay-rises-for-mps-under-remuneration-authority-decision/
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April 30, 2024 5:10pm
Maggie Pie

IN CASE YOU BORT ONE ?

SkyNews just reporting the urgent recall of thousands of Jeep Grand Cherokees
due to fears THE WHEELS COULD FALL OFF ….. causing serious injuries or death 🙁

I’ve always thort they look like cr*p anyway. LOL!!
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April 30, 2024 7:16pm
- kevn
  
  Maggie… They depreciate quicker than a Tesla, so a double whammy.
  
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  April 30, 2024 7:20pm
- Ghost
  
  Jezz, sounds like they have been getting expert design advice from Boeing.
  
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  April 30, 2024 7:20pm
Ghost

Well, Ireland, perhaps you could send a nice little message to Māori asking them to please behave and stop committing crimes

Senior minister Paul Goldsmith has fronted up to the United Nations in Geneva to explain how New Zealand is protecting human rights.

“Ireland regrets that the Māori people, including women and young people, continue to be disproportionately affected by incarceration,” said Ireland’s representative.

Article

Hmmm, is there a country that looks after their ‘indigenous’ people better than NZ?

“Better protect and promote the rights of indigenous people,” said Norway’s representative.
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April 30, 2024 7:32pm
- Jack5
  
  Meanwhile, in Ireland, says an article today in the Telegraph:
  
  Ireland was supposed to be the shining human rights citadel on the hill, rising above nasty, racist and xenophobic Brexit Britain – or so the country’s liberal elite loved telling the world.
  
  And yet. The Irish public is suddenly marching the streets waving banners with slogans such as “Ireland is Full”, “Ireland for the Irish” and “Irish Lives Matter” – the latter of which could well earn you a trip to court if transposed to “English Lives Matter” in an English street.
  
  And in Norway, the Saami of Lapland (which extends to Sweden and Russia), are indigenous people with a non-written history, their own language, and a culture that interests tourists. Sound familiar?
  
  Wokies from the UN visited Norwegian Saami last month.
  
  The UN picks easy targets such as New Zealand and Norway. Not Chinese treatment of the Uyghurs and Tibetans, nor Vietnamese treatment of the Montagnard Christians.
  
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Maggie Pie

HOLY MOTHER!

Did anyone else just feel that earthquake???
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  Nothing on geonet. 4.7 at 7.23pm south-west of Waverley
  
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    It was a 4.9 up here. The chrystals on the chandeliers are still tinkling 🙁
    
    https://twitter.com/NewstalkZB/status/1785226136638915004
    
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National/ ACT/ NZ First (53%) lead over Labour/ Greens/ Maori (43%) – cut to 10% points in April
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  So…..will we get an encore ‘performance’ from the odious Diva on TV tomorrow in response ??
  
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