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NeverMindTheBollocks

RNZ bemoans coal burning causing CO2 emissions. No critique of rampant immigration contributing to increased electricity use.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/environment/515221/is-nz-bringing-in-indonesian-coal-every-month-to-keep-the-lights-on
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April 26, 2024 8:01am
- Taieri
  
  No critique of rampant immigration contributing to increased electricity use
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  The entire country’s infrastructure is overloaded due to that. Yet, nobody seems to worry, let alone do anything about it.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:56am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    It’s how we know we’re being sold bs.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:34am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      They might be selling it, but I ain’t buying it
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ exports 5 times as much coal as we import. So what?
  I don’t see the need to import when Huntly basically sits on coal.
  To much Green shit.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:10am
  - peterwn
    
    NZ coal is high grade coal and is to good to burn in a large thermal power station. That is why Genesis imports low grade Indonesian coal. Victoria, Australia traditionally used low grade ‘brown’ coal for its LaTrobe Valley power stations which supplied much of its electricity.
    As things pan out it seems that Huntly is being used significantly more than intended. It looks as if all three available Rankine (steam turbo alternators) units (the fourth unit is used as a source of spare parts) will be in use this winter especially because of late commissioning of new Contact geothermal plant and a continuing squeeze on gas supplies. It would be better if the Huntly Rankine units were scrapped and low capital cost gas turbines used for ‘last ditch’ generation (using gas or cheapest acceptable liquid fuel). But then Jacinds’s ‘captain’s call’ have pushed effective preferences towards coal..
    
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    April 26, 2024 11:53am
    - wsk12345
      
      The Rankines can and used to run on gas.
      
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      April 26, 2024 1:20pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      There are environmental downsides to every form of energy (especially wind and solar). According to numerous specialist grid energy engineers and energy economists it would make most sense to drill or frack for gas in the medium term. Then significantly up the spend on R&D to find cost effective and minimally polluting alternative energy sources (including advanced nuclear).
      
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      April 26, 2024 8:13pm
- Damocles11
  
  National voters like high house prices & low wage and salary growth, and the Left like ‘diversity’. So we are stuck with high immigration unfortunately.
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:41pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    It used to be that lefties would get their fill of diversity by travelling the world. The added bonus was they could then big-note about how sophisticated and worldly they were. Now it’s de rigueur to advocate for bringing obviously “difficult” cultures here to get the social brownie points.
    
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    April 26, 2024 8:18pm
mikenmildagain

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Happy World Intellectual Property Day!
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April 26, 2024 8:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It is also “International Chernobyl Disaster Remembrance Day”
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:31am
  - imalwaysright
    
    New Zealand Torture an Infant Day.
    
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    April 26, 2024 8:52am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      That’s every day unfortunately.
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:11am
    - sirknz
      
      Maori most affected…
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:13am
- Vinicius
  
  Here is a list for today April 26
  
  Alien Day
  Arbor Day
  Childcare Professionals Day
  Confederate Heroes’ Day
  Get Organized Day (should be everyday)
  Hairball Awareness Day
  Hug a Friend Day
  Hug an Australian Day
  Lesbian Visibility Day
  National Help a Horse Day
  National Kids and Pets Day
  National Pretzel Day
  National Static Cling Day
  Remember Your First Kiss Day
  Richter Scale Day
  
  Don’t really see the point in of all this “today is [insert name] day”.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He is after the downticks. (34)
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:12am
    - Vinicius
      
      What is the record for the most downticks at KB?
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:25am
    - Don Beckett
      
      What about – “Grow Your Own Dope Day – Plant a Pom a Day” Day.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:25am
  - Phronesis
    
    Hilarious that hairball awareness day and lesbian day are celebrated together.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:17am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Sacre Bleu!

The windmill on top of the Moulin Rouge cabaret club in Paris, home of the can-can, has lost its sails.

“They just fell off”, a spokesman said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68895836
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April 26, 2024 8:06am
Anthony Melchett

How did this guy get away with it?

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/acquitted-jurors-find-then-19yo-wasnt-responsible-for-older-brothers-death-amid-birthday-party-fight/

Let’s analyze the evidence.

“…It should have ended there, but instead Patuawa Nathan followed his brother to his room, grabbing a knife from the kitchen along the way and yelling he would “f***ing kill him” before pounding on his bedroom door, prosecutors said.
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“This is exactly what he walked down the hall ready to carry out,” Kefu said of the defendant, reminding jurors of Patuawa Nathan’s own words in a recorded police interview after he was told his brother had died: “F***ing told you, c***. F***ing told you I wasn’t joking.”
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He described the defendant squatting over his brother after he fell to the ground following the first stab wound, dominating the victim as he said: “Take that. Take that, you c***!” Others intervened, pulling Patuawa Nathan off his brother, they said.

Can citizens order an appeal?

Nice bong in the photo too…

Just savages, but apparently forcing kids to speak Maori in school will fix all of this.

Look, i’m as happy as the next law abiding citizen that we have lost another gang member but you feel sorry for anyone that is near Patuawa over the next 8-10 years while he clocks up the 60 or so convictions required by the chosen ones to actually go to jail in this country.

On the other hand, should a white guy attack someone, he gets 8 years! 8 years for assault when we have rapists, bashers and murderers getting off scott free…

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/jealous-ex-boyfriend-jailed-for-violent-attack-at-northland-campsite/
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April 26, 2024 8:10am
- Matt Long
  
  I would argue eight years was not enough for the campground attacker, the other court outcomes are a joke.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:52am
- softail 1450
  
  Anthony Melchett ,The filthy killers of baby Ruthless aren’t even going to see the inside of a court house.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:53am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Baby Ru’s “mother”, Storm, said he was murdered.
    The cops are considering the possibility it was accidental.
    The whole thing is strange.
    
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    April 26, 2024 1:01pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ Justice is stuffed.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:22am
Inandout

Give the bastards an inch and this is what happens.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/netizens-slam-disgusting-video-of-drag-queen-making-kids-chant-free-palestine-in-massachusetts-this-is-evil/ar-AA1nECGb
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April 26, 2024 8:12am
- Sacha
  
  It’s the parents that are letting them get away with it.
  Parasites will always take advantage of any weakness, or lack of concern.
  
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  April 26, 2024 2:31pm
Biscuit

Just chuckling over DPF’s ‘Hysterical Hipkins’ article from yesterday…

None of our bought current clutch of journos would win, of course, but we really need an Annual Award for the hired hack who actually highlights leftist hypocrisies like Little Chippie’s latest spiel.

We could call it, oh, something fanciful like ‘Best Balanced Reporting’…
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April 26, 2024 8:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Never happen in socialist south zimbabwe.
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:38am
  - Biscuit
    
    Oooh, Steve, as I type (8.44 am) you and I have ‘attracted’ the same number of downvotes.
    
    Likely the self-same saddo, no?
    
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    April 26, 2024 8:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yeah, the same Mike is lurking around. Wear it as a badge of honour.
      
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      April 26, 2024 8:55am
      - Biscuit
        
        Not much ‘honour’ in simply hitting the downtick.
        
        I can ‘take’ being told I’m wrong – hell, there was once an occasion (just after 2pm on the 13th of February 1997) when I WAS wrong – but, Mr/Ms/Whatever Downticker TELL ME WHY I AM WRONG.
        
        We don’t bite (well, I don’t: I’ll let Steve speak for himself, ha!)…
        
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        April 26, 2024 9:03am
      - pdm
        
        Biscuit Mikey is rallying the troops.
        
        At 9.26am you are under siege with two down ticks.
        
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        April 26, 2024 9:27am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        pdm,
        It could be one of his other pseudonyms using a VPN.
        
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        April 26, 2024 10:26am
    - MCōs
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about, but if it’s downticks you’re after here’s another one
      
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      April 26, 2024 9:08am
      - Biscuit
        
        MCōs, I wasn’t actually touting for downticks but rather just some rationale for the downticking.
        
        Your one, seemingly chucked at me with no logic whatsoever, simply has me adding you to the ‘Bewitched, Bewildered and Bothered’ brigade.
        
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        April 26, 2024 9:18am
      - pdm
        
        Biscuit I see a trend.
        
        Most posters get 2 downticks.
        
        Mikey and Mcos get 2 upticks.
        
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        April 26, 2024 9:36am
      - Mike
        
        I have a rationale for karma ticks. The main thing is to tick most comments in a thread – it’s easier to see new comments when scrolling down. Uptick or downtick though? Usually a downtick as most Kiwiblog comments are ones I disagree with or just consider pointless wastes of time.
        
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        April 26, 2024 10:57am
      - MCōs
        
        Anyone who grizzles about downticks probably thinks their farts don’t smell!
        
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        April 26, 2024 1:41pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Would be all good Mike/Milky/whatever as long as we can see names next to downvotes. Then we can clearly see who is just being a pest.
        
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        April 26, 2024 5:46pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  It isn’t just what he says, which is a mixture of panicked drivel and party-mandated talking points, it’s that the MSM still remember who their best chance of handouts comes from. They run to Hipkins and breathlessly report that he has “attacked the government”, “accused them of …”, “clapped back at ..” and other drivel.
  
  If memory serves, that wasn’t what happened ever in the previous 6 years.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:22am
rouppe

Drag Queen story time tour cancelled

Hastings District Council and Rotorua Lakes Council cancelled three events combined last month, citing safety concerns and disinformation.

This is what happens when you yourselves used those same tactics to cancel legitimate speaking tours.

The scheduled shows would have seen two drag performers read stories about inclusivity and acceptance to children.

So it wasn’t just children’s stories, it was LGBQTI+ propaganda.
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April 26, 2024 8:20am
- kowtow
  
  karma .
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Chalk that one up. A good win for Brian Tamaki!
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    We can’t argue with him there
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:43pm
- Stellaboxer
  
  I’ve always thought the question wasn’t why would children want to see a bloke dressed as a woman tell them stories but rather why would a bloke dressed as a woman want an audience of children to tell stories to. If a man enjoys story telling that’s great but having to dress up in your fetish gear to do it makes the audience part of the fetish. Prove me wrong.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:42am
  - rouppe
    
    Preaching to the converted…
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:29pm
Anthony Melchett

More great news:

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/drag-queen-reading-group-rainbow-storytime-cancels-nationwide-tour-amid-ongoing-protest-by-destiny-church-leader-brian-tamaki/

Do what you like but leave my kids alone. when you attempt to brainwash kids you are fair game for cancellation.

I like the photo in the article where some poor kid is being terrified by a transvestite and clutching onto her masked mother that’s obviously forced her to go there to suit her own ideology. If you take your kids to this sort of thing you are a bad parent.

Not often I agree with Brian Tamaki but he’s done well here.

“This rainbow-washing has gone too far. The over-promotion and protection of this perversion is not right”
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April 26, 2024 8:23am
- imalwaysright
  
  A.M
  
  Bishop to Queen
  
  Checkmate!
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:19am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Well done.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:31am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Sorry Steve big thumb down tick
      
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      April 26, 2024 12:39pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I know that it don’t work.
        Stalemate.
        
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        April 26, 2024 6:15pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Also from the article re drag queens tour being cancelled, it is reported that the guy who painted over a rainbow crossing has been fined $16,093 -presumably the cost of reinstating the original surface.
  Although having married into the family of Brian Tamaki won’t have helped either perhaps.
  What makes this hard for the lay person to accept is that there appears to have been no consequences for the activists who walked into the Te Papa museum carrying several kinds of tools and paints in backpacks – then scaled an interior wall to deface an exhibit because they didn’t agree with it.
  And the difference is…….?
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:25pm
  - Stellaboxer
    
    The difference is Gravel one action was taken by people who subscribe to a set of ideas and principles that the progressive establishment disapprove of and the other was undertaken by those who are fashionably radical. To pursue the perpetrators of the museum attack would not sit well with the image desperately being pushed by the urban establishment where as coming down hard on the “desecration “ of a rainbow crossing earns enormous upticks in the minds of these clowns. If you’re looking for consistency amongst the progressive cliques then I’m afraid you’ll be looking for a very long time after all these are the same people that despise Christianity for its right wing tendencies and patriarchal structure yet support with unquestionable resolve the most far right, fascistic, patriarchal, homophobic and misogynistic religion on the planet. The only consistency you will find perhaps is that they tend to support anything and anyone who advocates the destruction of western liberal democracy and its values.
    
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    April 26, 2024 1:02pm
softail 1450

Biscuit ,Yeah [deleted] Hipkins is just itching to say “ 6 long months of mismanagement” but even that fool knows it won’t wash with the people ,he’s “hysterically” pathetic.
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April 26, 2024 8:23am
- Positan
  
  Softy, I’d veer more towards “pathologically” pathetic.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:50am
- softail 1450
  
  Just a quick note to assure KB commenters the deleted word in my post was nothing near a four letter word ???
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:57am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Things not good for Hipkins. Every time he comments to the media it blows up in his face!
  Karma.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:34am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He will know Morgan will be polling, followed closely by Curia
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:46pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Wheels falling off already has made him look like an utter loser, he is going down more each day, anger will be growing
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Lindsay Mitchell poses some disturbing questions

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/lindsay-mitchell-is-oranga-tamariki-guilty-of-neglect

She offers up statistics which shows a very large gap between the numbers of children who are criminally harmed according to police records and the numbers of children in the care and protection of Oranga Tamariki.

Is the rate of intentional injury increasing for the very reason that Oranga Tamariki is taking fewer children into state care?

If the answer is ‘yes’ then the whole drive to leave mainly Maori children with their whanau for cultural reasons is flawed.
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April 26, 2024 8:27am
- I remember when
  
  And has the 1989 Children, Young Persons and Their Families Act contributed?
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:42am
- kevn
  
  Maggy… Disturbing isn’t it?
  Someone has to dig through the bullsh*t offered up to establish what actually is/isn’t happening.
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:51am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Very,very disturbing that accurate stats aren’t being collected and shared about the numbers of children that are being harmed.
    
    It is as if there has been a deliberate attempt to hide the fact that
    It is overwhelmingly Maori children who are hospitalised due to domestic violence.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:02am
    - kowtow
      
      Likewise rotten teeth.
      
      Which is the most preventable of diseases .
      
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      April 26, 2024 9:21am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Also it is overwhelmingly maori kids that are being uplifted, due to abuse, neglect and exposure to drugs and gangs etc. One of the hysterical (in every sense of the word) reasons that some taxpayer-funded part-maori female lawyers gave for not repealing Section 7AA (as the coalition are going to do) was that “this would unfairly disadvantage maori as 60% of tamariki being uplifted are maori”.
      
      Yes, that’s rather the point you dopey trougher. Every child born into a maori family (in the loosest possible sense of the word) is already disadvantaged. By the time OT get their shit together and actually uplift the poor kids, they’re already further disadvantaged, but not irretrievably so.
      
      Preventing their placement in a safe, loving foster environment, regardless of the ethnicity or skin pigment of the carers, is almost certainly going to doom them to a life of crime, drugs, welfare dependency and/or prison, if not to an early death at the hands of their culturally-acceptable so-called carers.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:34am
      - imalwaysright
        
        They should uplift the parents and rehouse them in a jail.
        
        If there is enough reason to remove a child from its home then there is surely enough evidence to prosecute the parents.
        
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        April 26, 2024 1:08pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        @iar – you say “parents” as if there’s two of them. There’s never two of them, that’s a big part of the problem.
        
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        April 26, 2024 9:29pm
- rouppe
  
  I read that too.
  
  It highlights the problem with individual government departments looking at their own performance pillars, and not looking at “whole of government” performance.
  
  The goal should be the welfare of the children, not how many uplifts you do.
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:51am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Uplifts are actually failures, of the adults in the families concerned. Not of me or society.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:04am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  It’s deeply disturbing. Especially disturbing that Oranga T is claiming success based on fewer children in foster care. Lindsay has dug deep into available data on numbers of police call outs and hospitalisations of our most vulnerable and drawn an unsurprising conclusion. He notes that police and hospitals are (wokely) often not recording the ethnicity of the victims which obscures more of the truth.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:00am
- Notsofast
  
  Once again are we dealing with 1 part Maori in 512 equals Maori?
  Winston produced this extreme example.
  What is missing in the race debate, is how Indians, Chinese, Muslims etc reproduce predominantly within their ethnic communities, but Maori and Europeans do not.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:08am
  - Jake Dee
    
    it’s an interesting point and I think the words you are looking for are “exogenous” and “endogenous’ or in common English “marrying out” or “marrying in”.
    There are many variations on this, can you marry out of your tribe/kinship group and still retain your status, and what of the status of your children?
    Polynesians (wide-ranging seafarers) have always been exogenous, the British (also wide-ranging seafarers) have been somewhat exogenous, the working class even more so and sailors even more than that.
    The European aristocracy was always highly endogenous, marry out of your social class and you risk losing your social status.
    
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    April 27, 2024 2:16am
Ipanema69

Memo to all National MPs.

Ipanema69 will refund any expenses involved in afixing the following tattoo to your forearm.

“Anything the MSM, Beneficiaries, Academics, TPM, The Green Party, Labour does not like is an awesome idea.”

Feel free to add to the above list.
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April 26, 2024 8:34am
- pdm
  
  Ipanema some of us have not got enough forearm for the original. lol.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:33am
I remember when

Once again the green advocates are allowed to promote an idea without any critical media response.
The call to grow kikuyu grass lawns and then to not mow them was a typical example.
Kikuyu grass, like many imported plants, is considered by many to be an invasive weed.
It grows from a thick network of rhizomatous roots and sends out stolons which extend along the ground, rapidly forming dense mats and suppressing other plant species.

Might plant some and watch it battle for supremacy with the paspalum.
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April 26, 2024 8:38am
- Matt Long
  
  And if left ungraded or unmowed it becomes a fire hazard, and home for vermin.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:57am
- Paulus
  
  Does not Kikuyu Grass come from Kenya in Africa.
  Kikuyu are an large African Tribe too.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:16am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Correct
    
    https://agpest.co.nz/?pesttypes=kikuyu-grass
    
    Might plant some and watch it battle for supremacy with the paspalum.
    
    This experiment is currently underway on some of my lawns.
    
    The kikuyu is winning hands down …. its stolons (and rhizomes) creep forth in all directions all year long. The nasty paspalum only raises its heads (leaves and flowering stalks) in late summer….. and won’t make too much progress trying to seed into a sward of kikuyu.
    
    If I didn’t regularly mow the lawns, there would be a metre high fringe of kikuyu around my property, threatening to take over the rest of the hill.
    
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    April 26, 2024 1:21pm
- lifesgood
  
  Kikuyu is a curse of a thing. It invades everywhere, driveways, vegetable gardens, flower beds.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:38am
Observant Octagenarian

The placard that seemed to be missing from the Anzac Day pro-Palestinian marchers was “Hitler was right”.
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April 26, 2024 8:50am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘A tense situation was avoided today, as a Leftist pro-Palestine protestor attempted to get into an argument with a Skinhead but found they really are on the same page about pretty much everything.
  
  “Wait, what? You hate the Jews too?” asked Chuck Peaslee, a college student and Palestine liberation warrior. “I wanted to punch a Nazi today, but you’re making it pretty difficult right now, bro.”
  //
  https://babylonbee.com/news/palestine-protester-tries-to-argue-with-skinhead-but-they-just-agree-on-everything
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:53am
Maggie Pie

According to one of the girls from tennis, there’s a rumor that Simeon Brown
is looking at overturning Arderns ban on single-use Plastic Bags.

OMG…let’s hope so. Would be an absolute game changer.
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April 26, 2024 8:50am
- kevn
  
  Maggie… We just have to buy bin liners and doggy do bags now.
  Now, about those annoying little plastic fruit stickers. ‘She’ promised they would go. Still waiting.
  No doubt growers and retailers find the miniature bar code useful.
  But, ‘she’ promised…
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    ‘She’ lies you know.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:40am
- pdm
  
  MP – that will be a quick way to empty our car boot. Bloody shopping bags go everywhere we do these days.
  
  Go hard Simeon, go hard!!!
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:54am
- rouppe
  
  I have to say, in hindsight, the number of supermarket single use plastic bags that I’ve seen blowing about the place has dropped to pretty much zero.
  
  Other things aside, that’s a win. I still buy and use single use plastic for my kitchen bin.
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:54am
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    Making your own soda water (eg Sodastream) doesn’t save a lot of money but sure cuts down on the plastic bottles our house uses.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:52am
    - Blog-aholic
      
      But, but what about the CO2 your are putting into the environment…..tsk tsk….//
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:06am
      - Don Beckett
        
        If the plastic bags are made from biodegradeable stuff, then whats the prob.?
        
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        April 26, 2024 11:37am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        The “biodegradable” plastic thing is somewhat of a con it would appear. They do degrade much faster than straight out plastic, but the kicker is what they degrade into. Sure there are some plastic-like substances (corn based and so on) that “bio-degrade” but they tend to be not very good as containers and bags.
        
        At the supermarket I just pay an extra 25c per shop for a thick paper shopping bag. I chuck it away when I get home.
        
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        April 26, 2024 5:54pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      And a great way to support Israel also. I managed to explode the head of a dear friend who is also a card-carrying, keffiyeh-wearing, Free Palestine idiot, by mentioning that fact. The look on her face was priceless!
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:39am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Loddenthinks: “a dear friend who is also a card-carrying, keffiyeh-wearing, Free Palestine idiot”
        
        You must have the patience of a saint! That would be too ridiculous for me to bear.
        
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        April 26, 2024 6:00pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        @exile: she really is a dear friend – an academic now though she wasn’t always. We don’t discuss politics.
        
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        April 26, 2024 9:30pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I don’t recall ever seeing single use plastic bags blowing about the place, at least not in New Zealand.
    
    I’ve definitely seen thousands of them in SE Asia, including in every waterway (Halong Bay is a cess-pool unfit for swimming, if you’ve been there recently). I understand something like 95% of the plastic that finds its way into the oceans comes from just 5 rivers. They are all in Asia.
    
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    April 26, 2024 11:37am
    - rouppe
      
      Any sports fixture, fences around construction sites in cities, it was quite noticeable to me at least.
      
      Asia is orders of magnitude worse. Bought meat on a stick from a vendor in Vientiane, it was put into a plastic sleeve, which was put into a plastic bag…
      
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      April 26, 2024 12:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Just overturn everything that Tyrant did.
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:58am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Really? Including the increases in your benefit since 2018?
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:01am
    - imalwaysright
      
      You mean the “increase” in his pension, that he has already paid for, that has been savaged by the rampant inflation she created?
      
      Benefit my arse.
      
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      April 26, 2024 9:09am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        None of us who receive super have previously paid for it. That is not how the New Zealand Superannuation works. All we did is pay for the super that our parents received. Now it is the current generation of taxpayers who are paying for our super.
        Of course, many superannuats are paying much more tax on their other income than they get in super. Perhaps 10 to 20% of superannuats are in that situation. But most are not.
        
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        April 26, 2024 10:23am
      - MCōs
        
        The present system replaced a user pays system of some sort that would have meant by now the superannuation payments would have been from our own contributions, as I understand
        That would have meant, I expect, pensioners would have received the money no matter where they were resident, unlike the current system
        Also
        The current system was incredibly generous in its early day and the middle was really squeezed to pay for it!
        
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        April 26, 2024 1:56pm
      - Taieri
        
        All we did is pay for the super that our parents received.
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        It doesn’t really matter what exactly we paid for as we had no say on how it was being spent.. What matters is that we did pay on the understanding that we will be looked after when we no longer can pay. It is the role of the government to decide how our contributions are allocated and spent. You were a part of the government once so it was also your decision.
        
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        April 26, 2024 3:48pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Spot on Taieri
        
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        April 26, 2024 5:40pm
      - Prince
        
        ‘The current generation are paying for our Super…’
        Not really. Given our burgeoning debt, future generations will pay for our Super when the Bank comes calling. And that is very much on Ardern and her cronies.
        
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        April 27, 2024 9:06am
    - Tomtoddy
      
      Mikey, she would not have had to increase benefits if she and her big spending sidekick hadn’t spent taxpayer’s money like drunken loons and sent inflation skyrocketing.
      
      Sorry, Admin – hit report instead of Reply. Shaky hand.
      
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      April 26, 2024 9:12am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I’m not biting Mike.
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:42am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      You inherited your parents’ house Milky?
      
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      April 26, 2024 8:22pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Not possible. The damage will take decades to work its toxic way through our society.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:10am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  People are used to doing without the single use plastic shopping bags now & it isn’t smart to return to them.
  
  However, it was always virtue signalling. The real gamechanger would be banning single use plastic nappies which are a larger environmental impact.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:38am
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    But, but, what about the other side of the nappy equation, water, soap powder, nappy soak, fibres in environment, electricity, especially if dried in a drier. None of these “x is more environmentally friendly” tropes stack up if you look more closely at the other side of the coin. I’ll start with one example. “Ban gas exploration, let’s buy more dirty coal instead to generate electricity. (There are stronger examples, of course)
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:09am
    - lifesgood
      
      We had 3 kids. All nappies were hung on the line to dry. All the things you list as bad for the environment are used when you do any household wash anyway.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:42am
    - kiwikidsnz
      
      Not even a close comparison.
      
      Soap powder is biodegradable (I used to make it for a living), cotton is a natural fibre, NZ electricity generation is one of the most environmentally friendly globally. The wind is free.
      
      The reason no one will ban plastic nappies is that they’re more scared of women than concerned about the environment.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:54am
  - kevn
    
    kknz… We use an equal number of bought bags compared to the past supermarket offerings, for bin liners and doggy-do use.
    
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    April 26, 2024 4:10pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  That would be a very bad idea. Yes I used to reuse them as much as possible but many folk did not.
  
  There are some other blights on the world too. Plastic water bottles and disposable nappies would be up there.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:48am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Plastics come from fossil fuels and can be burned at high temps as fuel. “Recycling” plastic is overwhelmingly a scam (as in literal mountains of the stuff from the 1st world piling up in third world countries or just being dumped in the land or oceans to hang around for centuries and tangle up wild life).
    
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    April 26, 2024 7:48pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, in our house and I guess most others, supermarket plastic bags were kept for bin liners or wrapping articles such as dog poo. Those blue plague masks which we once wore have ended up under the water around our coasts but that is OK, well because…
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:52am
- thirteenstars
  
  A rumour? Under which of Brown’s ministerial portfolios? Surely this would be down to Simmonds under Environment and Seymour under Regulation.
  
  As much as I would welcome it, it’s hard to see that happening. Kiwis love turning necessity into virtue and this is one such case.
  
  The backlash would be substantial and I don’t think Luxon would want the grief for such a small gain. The Teals are a powerful lobby within the National Party and no doubt would see this as, um, “divisive”. Far as I know they want to take such regulations further and ban single-use plastic bottles, which means most of the bottles in the chiller at the local dairy.
  
  On the upside, if they can swing it no law needs to be repealed because the ban was by Order in Council under the Waste Minimisation Act 2008.
  
  https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2018/0270/6.0/whole.html
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:56am
- sherp
  
  Imagine if the right showed some out of the box thinking and did something like reward companies with tac credits if they reduced plastic use in packaging… the only reason coke comes in a plastic bottle and not glass is because it’s cheaper…. tax break for using glass and setting up a rebottling plant… job creation and less waste plus you get to watch greenies crap the bed as you show how to work with business to reduce waste and create jobs.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:05am
  - Jethrod
    
    Bring back bottle drives for clubs and the like.
    I went on countless bottle drives in the late 50s, early 60’s. 3 or 4 bottle drives would by a brand new rowing skiff…… 1000 dozen empty beer bottles was considered a good collection.
    Scouts did them too.
    Ahhhh… second thoughts, would probably have to put out cones and trucks be escorted these days.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:27am
- artemisia
  
  Could just remove the fines. Big operators like supermarkets probably continue as now, since more lucrative and much more virtuous for people to have to buy bags.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:06am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Yes, the corporates would make a lot of virtue-signalling noises but plastic bags don’t cost them at all.
    
    A time-in-motion study at any checkout, especially during busy times, would reveal a nightmare. Even several years after the ban, the use of customer bags creates significant bottlenecks.
    
    If the bag ban is reversed I’ll donate to Greenpeace, and I loathe Greenpeace.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:56am
    - artemisia
      
      Pretty sure somebody posted here back in the day they saw a mouse jump out of a customer bag, gave the checkout operator a fright! Not the only unhygienic bag for sure!
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:08am
    - AitchW
      
      Even if the ban were to be reversed I don’t believe that the supermarket duopoly would reintroduce single use bags. Not a good look, don’t you know….
      They’re saving baby seals!
      
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      April 26, 2024 8:15pm
- Notsofast
  
  Ecological game changer.
  The average family used single use bags equivalent to 2 liters of fuel.
  If they end in the ocean after being placed in a bin this is not the fault of the family.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:11am
- lifesgood
  
  What bugged me most about the ban on plastic bags was that the supermarkets saved themselves a fortune but didn’t lower prices. They would have laughed all the way to the bank.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:45am
  - Sponge
    
    And not forgetting, of course, all the single use bags they now sell to us for using in rubbish bins and picking up dog shit. They would have been thrilled by the ban.
    
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    April 26, 2024 1:08pm
    - MCōs
      
      I doubt if those supermarket plastic bags cost them much more than sixpence a thousand
      Now they make money by selling bin liners, paper bags and whatever ever else
      Previously those supermarket bags were seen blowing in wind because people had more of them than they needed; whereas the ones that cost money are used for what they were bought for
      
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      April 26, 2024 2:07pm
- Sacha
  
  lol, just in time! I found a stash of old New World bags last week.
  What a treasure!
  
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  April 26, 2024 2:34pm
Maggy Wassilieff

WHO remembers the Covid Deep-cleaning fiasco?

WHO redefines airborne transmission:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01173-7
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April 26, 2024 8:52am
- Anthony Melchett
  
  Or the idiot bloomfield trying to convince everyone that someone caught covid off a lift button…
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:01am
  - kowtow
    
    Or that swimming isn’t swimming , but only if it’s done by a friend of a friend.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:23am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Don’t forget the frozen peas fiasco….
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:07am
- krazykiwi
  
  WHO: Corrupt, captured by Pharma, Gates, CCP et al. And NZ sends them money we’ve had to borrow. #ExitWHO #defundWHO
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:05am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I recall a very large warehouse or logistics facility at Christchurch Airport being closed for deep cleaning after a single covid case. Think about how much that would have cost. 😭Must have been a boom for cleaning contractors.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:53am
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    And hand sanitiser suppliers!
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I remember Auckland being locked down after one covid case.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:53am
    - imalwaysright
      
      I wonder where adern is?
      She clearly can’t live in NZ.
      Has she taken out citizenship somewhere else?
      
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      April 26, 2024 1:52pm
- Paul
  
  Correct, why go deep when all the newly arrived virus is on the surface anyway !
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:33pm
krazykiwi

In a 4-3 decision, the New York State Court of Appeals overturned the 2020 rape convictions of Harvey Weinstein, the movie executive who became the most notorious villain of the #MeToo era for his aggressive sexual behavior. Source.
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April 26, 2024 9:03am
- MCōs
  
  What are you saying, K ²
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:16am
  - krazykiwi
    
    The ruling make interesting reading, in light of the Trump trial:
    
    The trial court abused its discretion when it ruled that defendant, who had no criminal history, could be cross-examined about prior uncharged alleged bad acts and despicable behavior which was immaterial to his in-court credibility, and which served no purpose other than to display for the jury defendant’s loathsome character. The ruling necessarily and impermissibly impacted defendant’s decision whether to take the stand in his defense and thus undermined the fact-finding process in this case, which turned on the credibility of the parties.
    
    Ouch.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:25am
    - MCōs
      
      So the guy being a loathsome piece of shit shouldn’t be used against him if it has the potential to sway the jury in an unrelated trial?
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:15am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Being a loathsome piece of shit, a subjective assessment, shouldn’t confer or increase the likelihood of a guilty verdict, which should a 100% objective and based only on evidence related to the case at hand.
        
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        April 26, 2024 10:49am
      - Paulus
        
        How many of the so called 100 women he “molested” went on to make a lot of money in the film industry as a result of their “liaison” with Weinstein.
        Remember in the USA legal system it is “all” about Money.
        
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        April 26, 2024 11:22am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Yes. Absolutely. That is the way it’s supposed to work so that the person is only held accountable for their proven actions, not simply what they might have done.
        
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        April 26, 2024 11:54am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      It’s really crazy.
      Basically, allowing the testimonies was based on a 1901 murder case (People vs Molineux) where the precedent was supposedly created.
      However, that case was overturned on appeal (a higher court) so the precedent didn’t actually exist.
      
      The retrial is therefore absolutely cut and dried.
      
      4-3 though.
      
      “Judge Singas dissented, arguing the majority’s ruling “perpetuates outdated notions of sexual violence and allows predators to escape accountability.” – so an appeals court judge thinks he’s a pig and should be held accountable, the law be damned.
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:37am
      - lifesgood
        
        The hollywood casting couch has been a thing ever since Hollywood started making pictures. I agree, Wienstein is a loathsome piece of shit and should be held accountable but I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of the young woman allowed him his vile acts to further their careers.
        
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        April 26, 2024 11:48am
Observant Octagenarian

When I studied management in the 1970’s we covered the Peter Principle – that people who are promoted beyond their level of competence should be identified and managed.
This is the classic example of Luxon managing Melissa Lee and Penny Simonds.
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April 26, 2024 9:03am
- MCōs
  
  This is Melissa Lee’s 6th term in parliament. Several of them as spokesperson for the position she has just been rolled from.
  One would have thought her competence would have been understood by now.
  However I wouldn’t be surprised if either the PM or his Deputy had much contact with her and had little chance to assess her governance abilities.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:36am
  - cmm
    
    Being a good spokesperson for the opposition does not necessarily make you a good minister. They require completely different skill sets.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:49am
    - MCōs
      
      Nevertheless someone of Luxon’s managerial skill should be able to tell quite quickly who will cut the mustard. I suspect also those portfolios were not given the weight they deserved
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:02am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        So, 6 months to assess their ability seems reasonable surely?
        
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        April 26, 2024 11:57am
      - MCōs
        
        As I said she’s been around for 5+ terms
        
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        April 26, 2024 1:25pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I have first hand knowledge of what is required to be an effective Minister. It is very different from being in opposition where most, but not all, politicians just get to throw rocks.
    
    I was staggered at her “deer in the headlights” performance with her media interviews. I suspect that Chris Luxon will keep a close eye on her performance in her remaining portfolios. I do feel sorry for her but it is a tough business.
    
    Phil Twyford was another example. The sheer scale of his incompetence could never have been predicted from his performance in opposition.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:58am
    - Taieri
      
      I have first hand knowledge of what is required to be an effective Minister.
      ————–
      
      Are/were you a minister Benedict? If not, you can’t have the “first hand” knowledge of what is required to be one;)
      
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      April 26, 2024 10:16am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Curran was the deer in the headlights worst offender
      
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      April 26, 2024 12:55pm
      - Paulus
        
        But Curran is on the Otago University Board who appointed their new Vice Chancellor – you know who.
        Who appointed her to that, when she stuffed up hugely, and got sacked re lies regarding a section of media.
        
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        April 26, 2024 1:50pm
  - wsk12345
    
    She probably hadn’t had to deal with the nasty MSM hounding her much when she was in opposition.
    
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    April 26, 2024 1:59pm
- pdm
  
  OO – interesting that this morning repeated almost exactly what Melissa Lee was saying when he was interviewed by Andrew Dickens this morning.
  
  I still think Lee was shafted either by Luxon or Peters or maybe both.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:40am
  - Inandout
    
    pdm, yes the replacement Minister sounds as weak as piss IMO.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:56am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He has been a minister before this government, I am yet to hear anyone suggest he was no good. He is over seas is he not, perhaps we should let him give it a shot before shafting him
      
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      April 26, 2024 12:57pm
  - Matt Long
    
    She appeared to be making a mess of the issues legacy media have, apparently couldn’t do a sound bite like, “Technology has changed and businesses need to move with the times, media bias and loss of trust by the public has cost these people their jobs, and that is the sad fact of the matter.”
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:05am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Exactly right
      The problem with National at the moment is they seem afraid to speak about issues matter of factly.
      They just pussy foot around- almost like trying to be nice.
      At my work we often get quite complex problems to address. We have what we jokingly refer to as the ‘circle of truth’ where we tell it as it is.
      Cause otherwise you never solve anything.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:02am
- Damocles11
  
  Yes, the Peter Principle may very well cover Luxon, Lee, and Simmonds.
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:49pm
Maggie Pie

Remember I posted earlier this week about the questionable conduct
going on inside the HRC?
And David Seymour’s desire to see it ABOLISHED completely.

Well, here’s yet even more concern….this time involving Commissioner Paul Hunt 🙁

https://twitter.com/CranmerWrites/status/1783360694978850849
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April 26, 2024 9:07am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  UK Labour Party retread, with no obvious skills appropriate to the role he was parachuted into.
  
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  April 26, 2024 7:24pm
Chuck Bird

Did anyone else hear talk show host Roman calling people who disagreed with him about Hamas being justified in the atrocities of 7 October morons?

I have complained to NewstalkZB about the Jew hater. I hope other may as well.
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April 26, 2024 9:14am
- RoboRob
  
  Typical Roman. Easily the worst host on ZB. If you agree with him on a topic you can talk and its great. If you disagree with him you ar cut of quickly and, in many cases, called a moron or the like.
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:31am
  - pdm
    
    RR – Tim Roxborgh (no u in Roxborogh) gives him a run for that title.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:44am
  - sherp
    
    My personal favorite is John McDonald here in Christchurch that just yells nutbar at any idea he opposes, gotta love that logic and reason.
    
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    April 26, 2024 10:10am
    - kowtow
      
      Plunkett , whose strength is good guests and indepth interviews ( when he’s not talking over them)often shouts “idiot” about the very people he invites to phone in.
      
      Biting the hand that feeds comes to mind.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:13am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Agreed.
        Its a major flaw in his skill set.
        Its almost as if he is having a reaction to a historical hypnotism.
        Then you get the sychophants texting and ringing him to tell him what a great job he did discrediting someone who hardly got two words out before he starts calling them names and accusing them of using the internet.
        He probably has lost as many listeners as he has gained.
        
        Regardless , he has done a great job otherwise.
        Its a great opportunity for the public to have a say (mostly!).
        
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        April 26, 2024 1:32pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Yeah Plunket tends to go off half-cocked into myopic abuse and ridicule when triggered. Drives me nuts. I’m sure he’d get a hell of a lot more subscribers if he pulled his head in a bit and showed a bit more decorum.
        
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        April 26, 2024 7:53pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    He doesn’t like Mr Luxon or the coalition government either. The other night he just when on and on and on about when National was in opposition they complained about Labour’s gross use and payment of consultants and now they are doing the same themselves – according to him.
    The guy is a left wing political activist – pure and simple.
    I can cope with a bit of that – but he is also one of the most boring people I have ever heard on radio.
    So I just switch off now when he starts up with his political bias.
    
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    April 26, 2024 11:39am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Nats did not say they would cut all consultant costs, they weee going to trim 800 million of the cost
      
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      April 26, 2024 1:01pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Hamas must be destroyed even if it means more non-combatants will be killed.
  
  The trauma of 9 year old Emily, who was released from Hamas captivity
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYIgV03_1uY
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:32am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Chuck. Think you might need to consider that HAMAS, I suspect you mean the military arm, will NEVER be destroyed.
    
    It has been said that orphans make up a large percentage of the freedom fighters/terrorists.
    Why, avenging the deaths of their parents by IDF bombings/shootings.
    
    Even if IDF killed all Gazans. Remember that there are still millions of potential HAMAS/Palestinians living in places like Jordan.
    
    I would suggest reading more widely and opening your mind a fraction.
    
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    April 26, 2024 1:44pm
    - Graeme Hall
      
      Never say never. History shows it can be done & has happened before. It depends whether the gloves come off or not. Victor Davis Hanson presents four examples where the enemy was annihilated & never came back.
      
      https://www.amazon.com/End-Everything-Wars-Descend-Annihilation/dp/1541673522
      
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      April 26, 2024 4:56pm
- leoj
  
  What were ZB thinking when they had this moron take over conservative Bruce Russell’s hours?
  
  Makes one think that it might be deliberate on ZB’s part to continue their march to the left.
  
  The media is rife with hard left moronic lefties.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:22am
- lifesgood
  
  I don’t know who the ZB host was last night who called a woman a bitch. I couldn’t believe my ears. She disagreed with his viewpoint.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:52am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    What time was it?
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:02pm
    - lifesgood
      
      I wish I’d made a note but I had just woken from sleep. I’m fairly sure it wasn’t Travers. As I say I was flabbergasted. He had an argument with a woman, then cut her off and said something like I’m sorry but you are a bitch. This is just totally unacceptable. I hope the woman heard it and complains. I’m getting a bit sick of all the pro palestinian rubbish on ZB too. Some of the hosts come across as very bigoted. Oh how I long for the days of Bruce Russell. He’d be turning in his grave if he knew a presenter had called a woman a bitch.
      
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      April 26, 2024 2:43pm
krazykiwi

Biden stopped at a Pittsburgh Sheetz convenience store on his campaign trail. Literally the next day the Department of Justice filed a federal complaint alleging that same family-owned chain discriminates against black folks because it requires a criminal background check in its hiring process. Source.
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April 26, 2024 9:23am
Maggie Pie

We watched the news reports on telly last nite from all the Anzac-Day-Services
around the country.

Thing that really struck us….there wasn’t a single ‘Green MP’ to be seen!
Can only assume they couldn’t be bothered getting their useless asses out of bed.
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April 26, 2024 9:36am
- MCōs
  
  I’ve been to some Anzac Day parades in Mangere Bridge and both the local MPs have been there, but you wouldn’t know unless you were there
  Same in Onehunga
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:56am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They hate Anzac Day, just like Ardern hated it, csnt remember the slippery Hipkins at any gathering, he should at least have laid a reef at Wellington
  
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  April 26, 2024 1:04pm
  - Ghost
    
    Hipkins was at his areas Anzac service yesterday
    
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    April 26, 2024 2:09pm
  - leoj
    
    I have heard of hitting a reef but laying one, that would be something.
    
    Don’t blame yourself G. It’s the pathetic NZ education system that is at fault.
    
    We should lay a wreath for it.
    
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    April 26, 2024 6:14pm
pdm

there wasn’t a single ‘Green MP’ to be seen!`’

Not even among the protestors Maggie?

If that is true they are neglecting their protesting duties.
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April 26, 2024 9:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Probably out practising how to be a drag queen, or a transistor.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:02am
Swifty

Maori Party leader just making shit up:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/christopher-luxon-blasts-debbie-ngarewa-packers-claim-of-misogynistic-demotions/QM3ZOVGLMRHHXL5547PKMPGMHM/

“Hey, let’s just hurl some mud and hope some of it sticks. We’ve got fuck all else to do.”
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April 26, 2024 10:01am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Willie says Melissa Lee is absolutely qualified for the position of Media and Communications Minister. She never got any support, she was thrown out.
A word that is being bounced about is “complex.”
There seems to be a few things going on that National are not saying or the crooked media not reporting.

https://shorturl.at/biKLV
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April 26, 2024 10:02am
- Ghost
  
  Wow, we’ve found someone on kiwiblog who posts a statement from Willy as if it means anything
  
  Mark this day down folks.
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Willie was just pointing out that Melissa Lee did not get any support from her own party. National MPs must be scared of Luxon.
    
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    April 26, 2024 11:09am
    - Ghost
      
      Willy Jackson doesn’t know shit. Only an idiot would believe anything he says.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:11am
    - Paulus
      
      Labour Members were terrified of Jacinda and her assistant.
      Especially if not on the radio or tv, she had a temper to be admired.
      
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      April 26, 2024 11:26am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Air NZ know her temper only too well!
        
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        April 27, 2024 9:09am
- Inandout
  
  SO, Willy lives in luxury by the sea and he was once Broadcasting Minister. Yes these things are complex eh Willy?
  
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  April 26, 2024 10:08am
Swifty

I totally love what this guy’s done:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350254614/auckland-lawyer-finishes-quest-deliver-lost-war-medals-maori-battalion-whanau

A fantastic idea and a fantastic effort.
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April 26, 2024 10:05am
Maggie Pie

My partner was saying this makes our ‘3 Strikes Law’ look p*ss weak.

No ‘discounts’ in Louisiana for Child Rapists who plead guilty.
Not only does this pedo have his Testicles surgically removed…..
he also has to serve a 50 year jail sentence!

https://www.wafb.com/2024/04/23/physical-castration-mandated-springfield-man-who-pled-guilty-raping-impregnating-teen/
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April 26, 2024 10:14am
- peterwn
  
  In an episode of British justice arguably even more shameful that the Post Office scandal, Alan Turing was offered a plea bargain of chemical castration for the bullshit homosexuality charge he faced. He resolved matters himself in a more drastic way. It probably never occurred to the narrow minded cop who pushed the charge that he may not have been around if it were not for Alan’s sterling efforts at Bletchley Park.
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:12pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It probably never occurred to the narrow minded cop who pushed the charge that he may not have been around if it were not for Alan’s sterling efforts at Bletchley Park.
    
    Of course it never occurred to the cop… The Bletchley code-breaking work was still covered by the Official Secrets Act in the 1950s.
    
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    April 26, 2024 4:10pm
Grunter

Down to Earth Kiwi Blog shows just how bad Hipkins/Ardern/Robertson were when it comes to Income Tax.

“The Worst Prime Minister Ever & his side-kick Finance Minister, Grant Robertson, hiked family taxes by more than any other developed country by throwing hard-working Kiwi families into higher tax brackets. Why was this happening? Since our out-of-control money-printing Reserve Bank engineered high inflation (and a recession), which eroded our standard of living and pushed more salaries into being over $48,000 (so starting to pay taxes at a rate of 30%) and over $70,000 (so starting to pay taxes at a rate of 33%), and so on. Of course our higher wages didn’t keep up with inflation, even though we were being taxed more on them.”

https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/nz-s-worst-prime-minister-ever-chris-hipkins-hit-kiwi-families-with-the-biggest-tax-hike-in-the-de?
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April 26, 2024 10:20am
- mogg
  
  Yes during Jacinda/Robbo’s time in government total inflation was 29%. We are still living with the after effects of their idealistic incompetence, if we are lucky by the time inflation is back under control
  It will add up to around 33% damage done. Meaning that they have destroyed 1 in every 3 dollars held in Kiwi Saver and elderly retirement savings. Remember that during most of their tenure interest rates and investment returns were close to zero.
  
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  April 26, 2024 2:38pm
All_on_Red

‘A Ukrainian attack on a Russian airbase at Dzhankoy in Occupied Crimea and a Russian staging area in Berdyansk in Occupied Zaporizhzhia marks the first use of a long-range version of the Army Tactical Missile System’
‘The missiles fired Wednesday night have a range of 165 miles, placing all of Occupied Ukraine within range of attack.’
‘ATACMS is not a miracle weapon that ends the war, but it does deprive Russian fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft of any secure base area within 160 miles of the front line.’

Its going to hurt the Russians Supply chains too
More in the link
https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/04/24/us-long-range-missiles-make-their-combat-debut-in-ukraine-and-put-all-russian-forces-under-the-gun-n2173262
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April 26, 2024 10:49am
- Grunter
  
  Yep – the escalation continues as predicted by many.
  
  Almost all the ‘Red Lines’ that Biden said the West wouldn’t do have now been crossed. The ‘Boots on the Ground’ red line looks to be the next one with a bunch of European countries talking up sending troops into Ukraine itself. The pattern will repeat again
  – deny it,
  – then talk it up for a few months,
  – then do it.
  
  It sounds like there is zero diplomacy/talking going on between the West & Russia. That just means there is no sign of negotiated peace anytime soon.
  
  Many predict that the month of May will see this turn into a major cluster. Zelensky needs to spark something to trick the Europeans into sending in troops. As your article says, the Kerch Bridge is an obvious target for these missiles. The Ruskies would respond big time if that gets blown up.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:21am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Who is this ‘many’?
    More of your dubious sources?
    These Missiles aren’t much of an escalation. They just have longer Range.
    The Kerch Bridge has already been smashed pretty badly- and what did Russia do then?
    Russia has lost a third of its Navy so far- and what did Russia do then?
    Ukraine continues to attack and damage Oil Refineries and disrupt production- and what did Russia do then?
    Its just a normal War so far.
    But hey you keep up the Chicken Little nonsense Toverishch
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:04pm
    - Damocles11
      
      “Many people are saying”.
      
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      April 26, 2024 12:51pm
    - Grunter
      
      You read like a Biden teleprompter. Keep up your warmongering propaganda …”it’s just a normal war so far” FFS that says it all.
      
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      April 26, 2024 12:51pm
      - Jethrod
        
        It’s abnormal when you start talking MUSHROOMS
        
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        April 26, 2024 2:56pm
Maggie Pie

People who watched this (already close to 30k!) ……are saying there is no doubt
Shane Jones is well positioned to lead NZFirst once Winston calls time.

Many also see Jones S as the countrys next Prime Minister.

https://twitter.com/2ETEKA/status/1783272166987063436
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April 26, 2024 11:11am
- sungsamning
  
  Works for me. I joined NZF recently, and I’ll be going to their monthly functions in the Christchurch South Library.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:51am
- peterwn
  
  NZF is too much of a Winston personality thing to survive when Winston is no longer leader. Shane would be hard pressed to hit 5%. Similar to Jim Anderton’s party. Megan Woods came nowwere near having what it takes to run a party.
  
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  April 26, 2024 11:58am
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    I don’t recognise the validity of the Megan Woods/Shane Jones comparison. Shane is highly educated and erudite.
    He’s always fun to listen to. He was recently accused of “conjuring Shakespearean insults” by WWF NZ CEO Kayla Kingdon-Bebb. (Listener, April 27), when what he did was label environmental NGOs as “green, politburo banshees.” Talk about showing yourself up. I wonder if she has ever read Shakespeare?
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:19pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    True. NZF is a personality cult. If Shane Jones had what it takes to inspire a party he wouldn’t have been a distant third behind Cunfillfe and Robertson to lead labour in 2008.
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:27pm
    - MCōs
      
      Haven’t times changed
      https://x.com/oakleaftassie/status/1783292366998385057?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
      
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      April 26, 2024 2:29pm
- mogg
  
  If there is a place for Greens and TPM in our Mickey Mouse Parliament, then there is also a place for NZF.
  
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  April 26, 2024 2:48pm
infused

NZ Reddit loved to dish it out over posie parker, but a drag queen, we have gone too far!

https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/1cczl53/ive_lost_everything_drag_queen_reading_group/
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April 26, 2024 11:31am
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/queenstown-anzac-ceremony-disrupted-by-shotover-jet-owners-apologise/CB7V35NJUBARXK6W5RGZBJCNY4/

Shotover jet’s sorry but still keeping their profits for the day.

If they were sorry, an actual gesture would be appropriate.
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April 26, 2024 11:45am
- kowtow
  
  Shotover Jet ?
  
  Disturbing Anzac ceremony .
  
  Wow , the same people who demand respect for all things of theirs are totally culturally insensitive to others.
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:23pm
  - Jethrod
    
    A bad look for Ngai Tahu
    
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    April 26, 2024 2:59pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YSqkztWGT8
Chicago Starts To Brutally Evict Migrants
What did they think? This was gonna be all Americans dream. Just walk in and Boom. Rainbows and ice cream.Totally unorganized, disorganized ,a crisis. Some were gangbangers in their native country. Now, they’re learning the ropes here.
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April 26, 2024 11:47am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Will this work?
This is why Trump will win:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/334402322617944
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April 26, 2024 11:49am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Need to be logged in to FB.
  
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  April 27, 2024 9:11am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_qLrrVLkQ
New Zealand First’s push to rebuild the oil refinery.
Insane that NZ, one of the most isolated countries in the world and dependent on an agriculture economy has to rely on external sources for its most crucial requirement, fuel.
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April 26, 2024 11:51am
- All_on_Red
  
  We should be drilling for Natural Gas too.
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:07pm
  - sungsamning
    
    Yeah, I hope that happens. Its good having grown ups in charge again.
    
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    April 26, 2024 9:33pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Fracking.
    
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    April 27, 2024 9:12am
- mikenmildagain
  
  How much money should taxpayers spend on reopening the refinery and paying for it to say open?
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:21pm
  - Taieri
    
    How much money will taxpayers spend if there’s a disruption to shipping?
    
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    April 26, 2024 3:56pm
    - MCōs
      
      Didn’t the oil also come by sea?
      I wouldn’t have thought how far we are from the oil supply so much as the security of the route
      
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      April 26, 2024 5:58pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Without energy people start dying in massive numbers after a week or two. It’s a top priority.
    
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    April 26, 2024 8:01pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Of course NZ always has to rely on external source for fuel whether it be crude or refined.
  
  The only real benefit of doing our own refining is cheaper and readily available bitumen and C02 Gas.
  
  As I understand it.
  Hence the commercial decision to close the refinery as the cost benefit analysis didn’t support continuing, especially with a very large upgrade requirement on the horizon.
  
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  April 26, 2024 2:10pm
  - Taieri
    
    The only real benefit of doing our own refining is cheaper and readily available bitumen and C02 Gas.
    ————–
    
    There’s another benefit. Crude delivery was done in vessels much bigger than product tankers currently supplying NZ, consequently there’s always a crude storage reserve, which increased energy security.
    
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    April 26, 2024 3:59pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Interesting supposition.
      That a crude tanker providing crude reserve?
      Increased energy energy security?
      
      Conversely if shipping is disrupted, ie said tanker cannot make it to NZ. Then no security, no reserve.
      
      Surely for security/reserves. NZ needs more fuel storage itself?
      
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      April 26, 2024 9:47pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The biggest excuse is the pipes are full of concrete.
  So install new pipes! Who would sabotage to that extent? And why?
  
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  April 27, 2024 9:14am
Ruahine

Just looking at this gem from RNZ.
10,000 cases of reported Covid a month.
Remember when that stupid lot known as the Labour Gov,t shut Auckland down for over two months because of one single reported case.
What a scam. What lies. Where did all the money go.
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April 26, 2024 12:05pm
- kowtow
  
  How’s that miracle “vaccination” thingy workin’ out for all these tens of thousands……….
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:17pm
  - kevn
    
    kowtow… Another money maker jab.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13350191/cancer-vaccine-melanoma-breakthrough-NHS-trial.html
    
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    April 26, 2024 4:12pm
Maggie Pie

OMG!!

Labor spent over $700,000 on ‘LAPEL PINS’ as a ‘thanks’ to Covid staff.

– NZNews@12:30

YHTBFKM?
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April 26, 2024 12:34pm
- Ghost
  
  $2 million
  
  Article
  
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  April 26, 2024 12:45pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    People with real knowledge of the matter who wish to remain anonymous say….. $717,000.00
    
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    April 26, 2024 12:56pm
kowtow

True colours.

‘In the Anzac Day incident, slogans like “F*** Captain Cook”, “Free Gaza now”, and “No More Western Imperialism” were scattered around the square.

The vandals also used spray paint to deface the statue’s base and placed stencil messages across the square.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/captain-cook-statue-targeted-anzac-day-vandalism-attack
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April 26, 2024 12:55pm
cmm

If you think National is changing things, think again.

“Massey University school of Māori knowledge associate professor Pauline Harris (Rongomaiwahine, Ngāti Rakaipaaka, Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairoa) has received $74,000 from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment for a feasibility study.

Harris, who was based at the university’s Manawatū campus, said the research would combine mātauranga Māori (Māori knowledge) from mana whenua and space-based data.”

Maybe the work I do would go a bit better if I got some bros to help with satellite communications design.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/te-ao-maori/350248175/nasa-space-project-collaborates-matauranga-maori
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April 26, 2024 2:19pm
- rouppe
  
  That feasibility study would be of the kind that says “look, that star we can see from our great waka is the same star that the Space Telescope can see, which just proves that Maori understanding of planets, stars, suns and brown dwarfs is equal to the white fulla”.
  
  “Oh, and also that funding needs to continue to further investigate… stuff”
  
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  April 26, 2024 3:21pm
- Jack5
  
  More from Massey’s “school of Māori knowledge” associate professor (lecturer)/Pauline Harris:
  
  The 49-year-old said the new research project was a part of a bigger programme to develop a Maori aerospace sector.
  
  Indigenous “knowledge” madness – surely not unrelated to the Labour Government putting $15 million into buying 1,000 hectares as base for a joint aerospace project with Ngai Tahu.
  
  Note from that Canterbury project:
  
  The name Project Tawhaki, chosen by the partners, draws on the Ngai Tahu ancestral connection to Tāwhaki, a demi-god from Ngai Tahu purakau (stories) who sought celestial knowledge from his gods.
  
  Tsiolkovsky, Goddard, von Braun and …?
  
  https://insidegovernment.co.nz/aerospace-project-to-take-off-at-kaitorete-spit/
  
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  April 26, 2024 5:27pm
- Inandout
  
  cmm, Horizons regional council are advertising they have $300,000 to give away, starting here.
  Kanorau Koiora Taketake – Indigenous Biodiversity Community Grant
  Pūtea Hapori Urupare Āhuarangi – Community Climate Response Fund
  The Maori juggernaut just rolls on.
  
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  April 26, 2024 6:13pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from the uk tweets 🙁

‘Same sh*t different day’
Yesterday it was horses causing havoc on the streets of Sadiq Khan’s London….. now it’s white supremacists

https://twitter.com/UB1UB2/status/1783561761112629332
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April 26, 2024 3:19pm
- mogg
  
  In 1980’s I lived in Swiss Cottage and travelled on Edgware Road everyday to and from work in the West End. Mass immigration has destroyed London as was, it is no place for decent people now.
  
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  April 26, 2024 4:18pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    It’s happening everyehere mogg…. imort the 3rd world, become the 3 rd world.
    
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    April 26, 2024 6:40pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      No mass immigration to Cambodia.
      Society continues day by day as normal. 🙂
      
      Exception, more Indian restaurants and Indian street hawkers in the cities.
      
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      April 26, 2024 9:49pm
Ghost

Not sure I like this development.

Microsoft’s New REALTIME AI Face Animator – Make Anyone Say Anything
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April 26, 2024 4:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Late today, other business.
John Bell’s letter to the Otago Daily Times is correct.
If Te Papa do not use the “Littlewood Draft” then Te Papa is part of the Coup – the takeover to tribal rule in New Zealand. These Islands are not R. T. Rower, they are New Zealand!
“If Te Papa now aims at “providing a fresh view (of the Treaty’s meaning) to inform contemporary conversations” that clearly implies that Te Papa intends to become involved in the twisting of historical reality in support of iwi demands for ever more power and authority.”
Well stated Mr Bell. Keep ringing that “Bell” Sir!

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/use-this-template-to-write-to-te-papa/?
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April 26, 2024 4:25pm
Ghost

Buckingham Palace officials are regularly updating a plan of action for King Charles’ forthcoming funeral after royal sources have revealed that the monarch’s condition is gradually declining.

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April 26, 2024 5:28pm
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  Quite the little cheer germ, aren’t we?
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:58pm
AitchW

Why, oh why, do mind numbingly sad and boring unionists insist on referring to National as “Tories”?
Should we refer to Labour as whigs?
Is it a throwback to the cloth cap imported unionists of the 50s?
I suspect they believe it to be an insult, but rather it exposes them as lacking in imagination. And IQ.
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April 26, 2024 6:53pm
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  It’s the politics of envy, of division, that reveals their paucity of good ideas, or willingness to debate on the issues and policies.
  
  Nobody quite does nasty like the left – but don’t forget, it’s different when they do it…
  
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  April 26, 2024 9:59pm
Maggie Pie

My partner has had similar approaches to this while having a few drinks in Ponsonby
with some of his business colleagues.
Wouldn’t come as any surprise if he’d reacted in a similar manner…..

https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1783435827244044412
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April 26, 2024 7:03pm
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  A few years back, while at a rooftop bar in Melbourne, I was approached by a gentleman who prefers the company of other gentleman. I was civil in my discourse then, when my drinks arrived, I went back to the table where my wife was laughing her head off. There’s no need to offer these guys violence, are they any different to the guys hitting on women in bars?
  FWIW, I had no idea I was being ‘courted’.
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:02pm
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  He could have just said “Ah, no thanks. I’m not gay”
  
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  April 26, 2024 8:07pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Latest RNZ example of bias and bullshit.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515308/most-horrific-threats-rainbow-storytime-tour-cancellation-draws-outrage
The tag line didn’t include that the outrage is from shaneel lal.
The story didn’t include that Lal is a labour party employee.
The story didn’t include any reference to Lal’s promotion of violence against Posie parker at Albert park.
The story didn’t include the fact Lal is in a state of continual outrage at anyone who disagrees with him.
Other than that, the story was just about some whining drag queen looking for a payout because he was cancelled. Boo f##king hoo.
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