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CJames

Does anyone know what the Suicide Prevention Office actually does? The old media blurb about new boss is opaque apart from the fact he is a Maori.
https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/new-director-suicide-prevention-office-puts-people-heart-mahi
When one looks at the “achievements” listed, it seems there is a lot of makeworks for other bureaucracies, social media ads of dubious effectiveness and patting themselves on the back. They don’t seem to put boots on the ground. The data shows the rate is going down, but the trend seems to have started before the office. 1996-2016 had a big reduction in male suicide, mainly in rural areas. The spike up is from youth, no doubt depressed by the climate doomsters and the isolation caused by lockdowns.
It seems that yet again the office was identified as a high visibility “victim” of the expenditure cuts (think Yes Minister scripts) and the biased no-nothing media used it as another stick to beat the government. If it is so important, why didn’t the Health Department managers take a pay cut to save it and other offices? Many private sector firms go down to 4 day week and cut in pay when times get hard. Do government departments do the same?
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April 10, 2024 8:01am
- Benedict Yu
  
  The office was established as He Kāpehu Whetū. According to its blurb its role is to “shine a light like a Maori star”.
  
  https://www.hekapehuwhetu.govt.nz/about-us/
  
  I don’t think that it is a separate entity. It is just a ‘sign on a door’ at the Ministry of Health.
  
  I agree with your assessment. There are no published achievements.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:11am
  - CJames
    
    It isn’t Ministry of Health yet. I got a letter from them yesterday emblazoned with Te Whatu Ora. It was embedded in their standard template, not on letterhead paper
    
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    April 10, 2024 8:14am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      You are confusing Ministry of Health and Health New Zealand / Te Whatu Ora.
      
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      April 10, 2024 8:22am
      - CJames
        
        Yes – you are correct Benedict. Highlighting the problem when they use Maori names so one doesn’t know what the actually do.
        
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        April 10, 2024 8:30am
      - pdm
        
        BY – that is probably because they do not do much.
        
        Just more tokenism at Taxpayers expense.
        
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        April 10, 2024 8:47am
  - Ehlana
    
    “shine a light like a Maori star”?
    
    How does one determine which stars are Maori?
    
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    April 10, 2024 8:54am
    - CJames
      
      Don’t they have a treaty claim in on all of them? – citing Maui slowing down the sun as proof? They seem to have a claim in on near everything else.
      
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      April 10, 2024 9:16am
    - lifesgood
      
      What utter rot! Maori star? Phht!
      
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      April 10, 2024 11:06am
      - Swifty
        
        We have a lost soul who begs outside our local dairy.
        
        Every now again he just randomly nuts off, usually when he’s pissed. Not long back he wasn’t allowing people to pass as he claimed “This is a Maori footpath….”
        
        We all just laughed him.
        
        The local cops maintain he killed a cop in his youth – but I’ve never learned his name so I’ve found it difficult to check this out. His looks and age just don’t line up with known cop killings that I can determine.
        
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        April 10, 2024 1:24pm
    - Jethrod
      
      Well the Pleiades have been well and truly hijacked.
      
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      April 10, 2024 11:25am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Ehlana – Easy. Any star that identifies itself as Maori. If you are still confused, call Wily Willie.
      
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      April 10, 2024 12:19pm
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      Howard Morrison
      
      Billy T James …
      
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      April 10, 2024 11:25pm
  - RoboRob
    
    More to my point yesterday that ALL organisations have room to cut 6.5% fat. The ministry of health, one might argue should be exempt from cutting spending, could easily dump this entire office and chop the $100m/yr Maori medicine sham and easily free up some cash.
    
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    April 10, 2024 8:55am
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/mental-health-advocate-mike-king-is-all-for-getting-rid-of-suicide-prevention-office/JXI4JHRO7ZDUHGJAGPQUVWIMEI/
    
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    April 10, 2024 8:57am
    - Kiwiguy
      
      Mike makes an excellent point.
      Also: National’s donation to Mike’s charity looks to be well spent! 😉
      
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      April 10, 2024 2:22pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Sorry BY, but that blurb from their website tells us6 tenths of nothing.
    
    With that blurb, it suggests that suicide is a once again is a Maori only problem in NZ. It isn’t, it is a fact affecting all ethnicities in NZ, rich & poor.
    
    Would surprise people that one of the highest levels of suicide is amongst the teenage children of well off families in Rodney? How does shining a Maori light solve that?
    
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    April 10, 2024 6:02pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Matthew Tukaki, a shill for the adern régime, was running it until Feb this year.
  Just a way of funneling money around the trough.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:24am
  - Kiwiguy
    
    I don’t understand why anyone takes any notice of Matthew Tukaki. Such a lightweight, unintelligent trougher.
    
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    April 10, 2024 2:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I can’t help thinking the Suicide Prevention Office was a convenient spot for Labour to dump some of their mates.
  
  Everyone seems to have forgotten the debacle about
  Matthew Tukaki being appointed Director of the SPO… without having his CV checked.
  
  https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/12/06/tukakis-cv-released-after-ombudsman-intervenes/
  
  Surely if the Office is so damned important, those appointing the Director would ensure that they chose someone who could do the job.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:19am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Maggy – I can do the job of sitting and doing nothing better than anybody else.
    
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    April 10, 2024 12:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Ah, but can you con(vince) someone to pay you megabuck$ at the same time?
      
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      April 10, 2024 3:58pm
- cmm
  
  It seems to be a “do something, anything” response to suicide.
  
  Just open an office, dump money into it and now you can say “we’re spending $x million a year on suicide prevention”. Box ticked. Move on.
  
  That was the goal, actually generating a measurable output was not the real goal.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:37am
  - CJames
    
    That is what happened with the billions pumped into mental health wasn’t it? What did we get from that money other than Labour boasting that they spent it?
    
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    April 10, 2024 9:49am
    - cmm
      
      Spending is all that is on the score card, mainly because it is both easy to measure and achieve.
      
      Outcomes? Naah, that’s the hard part.
      
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      April 10, 2024 10:50am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Correction.
      
      They set money aside to spend on mental, but in fact spent very little for no outcomes.
      
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      April 10, 2024 6:05pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    I wonder how many poor souls topped themselves waiting for the phone to be answered.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:04am
greybeard

I have discovered Adrian Orr’s system for deciding what to do with the OCR : for weeks and weeks he listens to Hosking interview people like Andrew Kelliher and all the bank economists like Nick Tuffley and then he simply does what they all reckon will happen !
Everyone is correct ! Everyone is happy !
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April 10, 2024 8:02am
- pdm
  
  Do you really think Orr is that clever gb?
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:04am
- RoboRob
  
  My forecast, for what its worth, is that ORR will not drop rates until ~6ths after the US starts dropping rates.
  
  The NZ Paso is almost worthless as it is and the easiest way to strengthen the currency is to offer higher interest rates then the US and other countries. ORR is desperately hoping the US starts dropping rates so that there is a bigger gap between the US and NZ rate. Stronger interest rates equals a drop in imported inflation (import costs down).
  
  So bad news for all those hoping rates will drop.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:59am
Chuck Bird

This is not premium.

David Seymour: School Strike for Climate isn’t just a problem for attendance, it’s bad for mental health

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-seymour-school-strike-for-climate-isnt-just-a-problem-for-attendance-its-bad-for-mental-health/VMCY7HYM2RAJZKT2QMVMQKQ6T4/
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April 10, 2024 8:02am
- G152
  
  Just another trick by authorities to control population.
  Its weather.
  Sometimes its extreme weather but its weather.
  Notice how the world is claimed to have be record warming last month while we had a substantial drop.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:16am
Mark Hanley

The despicable NZ media now resort to trying to make Luxons greatest strength a target of their attacks.

Luxons integrity, intelligence, big organisation change management experience, and his obvious rapport with people are driving the government’s agenda forward at breakneck pace.

We’re already seeing the public sector shrink, tax cuts dialled in, school attendance, curriculum, and mobile phone policies underway, improved policing, and building cost reduction plans being communicated to the market.

The NZ public are waking up to the despicable nz media so it won’t be long before more dishonest reporters lose their jobs.

The media are now even whining to Luxon about the publics low confidence levels in the media.

Luxon rightfully replies it is the media’s responsibility to restore their reputation, not his.
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April 10, 2024 8:02am
Benedict Yu

I am getting a feeling that Melissa Lee is a ‘weak link’.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/tvnz-newshub-job-cuts-media-and-communications-minister-melissa-lee-i-m-not-a-magician/

Describing TVNZ axing some TV shows as “very upsetting” just exposes her to calls to ‘do something’. She then doubled down by telling us all that “help is on the way”. 🙄

There are very many “upsetting” events and circumstances in New Zealand. A TV company axing some shows is not one of them.

Incredibly, Melissa Lee, in March, accused the previous Government of not doing enough to “protect the media”.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/03/previous-government-should-ve-done-more-to-protect-the-media-broadcasting-minister-melissa-lee-says.html

So now she is developing this mysterious ‘help package’ and apparantly trying to win over Winston Peters. 🤡

This is not a mess, yet. But it has the hallmarks of a potential mess.
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April 10, 2024 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I have always said Melissa Lee is a dam good attack dog, but for some reason she is held on the leash.
  Be kind National doesn’t want her rattling cages and being abrasive/corrosive, but that is what NZ needs. Forget what the soft cocks want.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:16am
  - cmm
    
    Attack dogs are great when you’re in opposition and don’t have to generate meaningful output.
    
    What happened to all the policy stuff for attracting IT workers that she was talking about a year ago?
    
    Did her successor (whomever is the IT minister) pick that up and run with it or was it just attack material?
    
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    April 10, 2024 9:40am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes. Phil Twyford is a good example. In Opposition he ranted and raved about the housing crisis. Then he got a chance to fix it and instead made the situation very much worse.
      
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      April 10, 2024 11:41am
- RoboRob
  
  There should be no help for TVNZ. They had the opportunity to help themselves. The news merger suggested by TV3 was a good solution to reducing the costs of procuring news. A shared journalist pool would have help TV3 keep its news service and reduce costs for TVNZ. Instead TVNZ decided to let NewsHub fail and then start cutting its own services.
  
  I know there is hate for NewsHub but with the solution we wouldn’t be looking at govt intervention to save TVNZ.
  
  Mellisa Lee, let them sink or swin by themselves.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:05am
  - david
    
    Of course RoboRob, the scenario that you describe could well lead to Maori TV creating a vehicle to fill the news void. That, along with a downward spiral in TVNZ news capability could create an outcome in which all your news comes via a lens that is certainly much different from the easily identified lefty viewpoint that currently skews the information flow.
    No easy answer other than an active cleanout and rebuild which would cost a king’s ransom, but even in your idle moments you could see that it would be politically unacceptable given the pressure on Government spending.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:33pm
- MCōs
  
  ‘There are very many “upsetting” events and circumstances in New Zealand. A TV company axing some shows is not one of them.’
  I would say that TV3 News potentially going out of existence (and taking Skyopen News with it) is not ideal because it leaves that particular field dominated by TV1, who whether you like them or not still attract a substantial viewership, particularly among the older demographic who tend towards the more conservative side
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:56am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Yes, and their news was worse/more biased than Newshub.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:07am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t really see it. We go from two rubbish TV news bulletins to one. Half the rubbish.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:37am
  - rouppe
    
    TV3 (Newshub) and Sky Open (Sky TV) are different companies, are they not?
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:49am
- thirteenstars
  
  I previously posted about Lee’s recent interview with Sean Plunket. She did indeed sound all over the place.
  
  She was of the opinion that the media playing field is not level, and in favour of online sources of news. She appeared to believe TVNZ/RNZ were somehow hampered but she wouldn’t say exactly what she meant.
  
  It was all quite disturbing.
  
  I suspect we might see specific public funding for commercial-free news provision by TVNZ/RNZ. But I wouldn’t put it past them to go for a completely commercial-free TVNZ.
  
  This wouldn’t solve one damn problem which is that woke, monolithic news is not as viable as it used to be. All funding it will do is to cement in the very problem that has led to its demise.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:59am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Melissa Lee seemed to be very good when in opposition. Didn’t she get the Clair Curran scalp? But I agree with BY that she seems to be struggling now and found wanting with all that’s going on.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:35am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Benedict bro – Don’t forget the fact that Luxon is the “weakest link”.
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:22pm
CJames

So Tariq Salami Otha Abu Shoulf has admitted that the terrorists in Gaza deliberately based themselves in hospitals and used ambulances for transport, then lie about it all to the compliant Western media.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1777406826520236049
Yet there are still the apologists, some on this blog, who deny it happens and still believe Hamas. Until proven otherwise, best to regard all anti-Israeli news out of Gaza as spun, if not outright lies.
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April 10, 2024 8:03am
- covfefe
  
  This is interesting and goes just how much the dems have changed their tune
  
  https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/thought-for-the-day-bill-clinton-on-hamas.php
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:15am
- kowtow
  
  Western lying media are more than happy to be lied to and worse ,to repeat the lies .Not just in relation to this but to just about every other “progressive”, cool ,with it cause .
  Gender , race , immigration , DEI, ESG , weather ,scamvid,Trump, Brexit etc
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:19am
- G152
  
  And the Useless Nations are all over Israel because war crimes.
  Dead silent when it comes to Arab terrorist groups hiding in civilian populations and committing war crimes
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:20am
  - Ra Henare
    
    G152 and others.
    To broaden your perspective on the Palestine Israel conflict.
    
    I suggest a browse thru ISRAEL media.
    
    https://www.haaretz.com/
    
    Todays headlines include
    Netanyahu crashing to defeat in the polls
    Hamas Dehumanised Israelies
    Israel deep dehumanisation of Palestinians
    
    Haaretz is judged to be left leaning
    
    Make of it what you will but some very interesting articles and news clips you will not read on NZ MSM (or KB)
    
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    April 10, 2024 2:45pm
- Che Guava
  
  “We are your Single Source of Truth. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.”
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:56am
- DimChappie
  
  He probably would say anything his interrogators wanted: “Meet Tariq Salami Otha Abu Shoulf a spokesman for the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization. In his interrogation he reveals….
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:27pm
  - Che Guava
    
    Funny how KBers believe Muslim radicals when they say things that they like to hear, but reject outright the Palestinian death toll because it’s the Muslims claiming it.
    
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    April 10, 2024 2:41pm
Scott

Islamic Jihad spokeman Tariq was interrogated recently and admits the deliberate manipulation of the world’s media.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/tariq-explains.php

I would add it’s easy to fool the media who want to be fooled and are blatantly biased in their coverage of Israel and Gaza. The Israel’s deliberately targeted a hospital, the Israelis have killed 30,000 innocent civilians, the lies and propoganda are swallowed up by the media.

The interrogation of Tariq shed light on the manipulation of media narratives by terrorist groups, with a focus on fabricating false stories to deceive both Arabic and international media outlets.

The effect is felt even as far away as the Wairarapa. Yesterday I drove past a “Gaza needs to live” protest in Carterton, of all places!
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April 10, 2024 8:04am
Maggie Pie

You often hear Muslims say there is no God Butallah.
So, if there is no God, then who is this Butallah?

Anyway, I googled it and found a Butallah.
He is actually Fimbo Butallah, who is the CEO of Kilombero Sugar Company Ltd.
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April 10, 2024 8:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  A sugar coated allah.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:18am
- Kiwiguy
  
  I prefer Nutella
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:25am
- AndyW
  
  Italian Catholics are, justifiably, outraged at a TV ad where potato chips replace Holy Communion. The ad agency said it was “irreverent”…would they do that with isalm…no way…there’d be a Charlie Hebdo attack from “the religion of peace” and everyone knows it.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:47am
Simon

There won’t be a WW3 because no one from the post West / NZ is going to fight Russia China for gay fake pedestrian crossings.
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April 10, 2024 8:09am
covfefe

Excellent article from Brendan O’Neill
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/04/08/gretas-class-war/
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April 10, 2024 8:13am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  covfefe – I guess you are the second and last person to read this excellent article by O’Neill in spiked-online.com
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:23pm
artemisia

Boarding houses in the news quite a bit atm. Not in a good way. Parnell fire and antisocial behaviour, Tauranga big fine for landlord, Loafer’s Lodge arson and deaths. The Tauranga case in the Tenancy Tribunal referred to occupants as vulnerable, and that is probably right for some esp if used for transitional / supported / bail address housing.

Anecdotally, Loafer’s Lodge fire seems to have triggered councils to keep a closer eye. For example, our small apartment block has just had its first council safety systems audit ever, an audit that of course owners had to pay for.

Thing is, if running a boarding house is too hard and owners close and sell, where will these occupants go? The huge social housing waiting list is nearly half single people and assume for those in emergency motels etc the proportion Is similar. The Housing Minister has set a target to reduce emergency housing by 75%.

Surely the government could not be considering running boarding houses. But is building thousands of one beddie social housing for the waiting list being considered?

Boarding houses have been around for decades, especially for single tenants, mostly men. Few were on the social housing waiting list before 2018. What changed? Suggestions – come one, come all for cheap as chips housing; here’s a nice cheap motel unit for you while you look for your own accommodation; many new rules around rentals that led to cost increases and also serious risk assessment by landlords. And citizens don’t worry about the astronomical cost you and your offspring will be paying for decades.

The new government is looking at motel occupancy and some of the rental rules. It won’t be anywhere near enough. Sorry, taxpayers.
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April 10, 2024 8:17am
- Scott
  
  Or remove most of the regulations about rentals and let the market work. There will then be poor accommodation at a cheap price for poor tenants. If left to itself the market would sort out the issue.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:34am
  - Keith White
    
    I agree with you Scott, but I cannot see the busybody bien-pensants currently infesting all layers of publicly-organized infrastructure in NZ ever letting the housing and accommodation market sort itself out.
    
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    April 10, 2024 10:55am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

“Chasing Trump” a Documentary.

Exposing the prosecutors – should be yuge.

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/chasing-trump-a-documentary-exposing-the-partisan-witch-hunt-against-a-former-president-04-09-2024/?
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April 10, 2024 8:21am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Joe Biden is about to eliminate another energy source.

Way to go Joe! This will get you votes while you continue to destroy America.

https://pjnewsletter.com/biden-move-threatens-major-extinction/?
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April 10, 2024 8:24am
- Hard Cheese
  
  Do you even question the content you’re reposting? It contains the sort of myth that will undoubtedly be parroted by the gullible:
  
  Wind is unreliable and solar panels require rare materials that are mined by children in Africa.
  
  Solar panels are primarily made from silicon, and China is by far the worlds largest producer of silicon. Silicon is everywhere, they don’t need to go to fucking Africa to get it, and it’s not being mined by children. China are also by far the world’s largest producers of gallium, tellurium, cadmium, selenium and indium used in some panel types – that’s why they’re mostly made in China, they produce all the raw materials and have low manufacturing costs
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:03am
  - mawm
    
    HC – It is Cobalt that is mined in the DRC, not the other metals you mention. China has very little cobalt but has taken control of the cobalt mined by children in the DRC. It is used for batteries not windmills/solar panels.
    
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    April 10, 2024 4:36pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Well hydro does not have to be replaced every 20 – 25 years, such as solar panels and turbine blades.
    Biden wants to stop more hydro. I fail to get your point.
    
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    April 11, 2024 7:24am
- virtualmark
  
  Steve,
  
  This sounded interesting, so I took a look at it. Just a once over lightly, so I might have this a little ropey, but what I found was:
  
  * The US national hydropower organisation is on the Internet at http://www.hydro.org
  * Seems like they want a new law passed, the “Hydropower Clean Energy Future Act”, which will streamline how hydro dams are licensed.
  * They also want another law that gives them a tax credit for upgrading dams (the “Maintaining and Enhancing Hydroelectricity and River Restoration Act of 2023”)
  * As far as I can see both laws have been introduced to Congress, but not considered or passed.
  * Republicans control Congress, not Biden. He has no say over whether or when these laws might pass.
  * Meanwhile a few years back Biden passed his Infrastructure Bill which the National Hydropower Association praise because “the law provides $910 million for hydropower and marine energy programs under DOE, including $753.6 million for hydropower facilities to improve efficiency, maintain dam safety, reduce environmental impacts, and ensure generators continue to provide emission-free electricity.”
  
  Could I suggest that the news media you’re reading isn’t telling you the whole story? Maybe Biden isn’t the problem? Maybe the hold-up here is the GOP Congress, who seem unable to pass any sort of new legislation?
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:46pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Virtual
    Just a small correction
    GOP does not control congress.!!
    
    Congress is the amalgam of
    1. the House of representatives with a slim GOP majority
    2. The Senate GOP controlled by the Dems.
    
    Sort of makes your claim about GOP controlling congress a bit weird/incorrect.
    
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    April 11, 2024 12:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Biden and admin are not streamlining hydro, they are putting up more hoops to jump through.
    
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    April 11, 2024 7:27am
Maggie Pie

O.M.G. Imagine the living conditions!
What’s the first thing you notice when looking at these pics?

For me, it’s the STATE of the bedding, furniture and whiteware that some people
must have had in their homes to begin with 🙁

https://tinyurl.com/k8zxx6bh
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April 10, 2024 8:29am
- alex Masterley
  
  No worse than an inorganic collection I spotted in Clover Park Manukau some years ago.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:42am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Funny thing is we used to have them here a few years back.
    It was amazing to watch all the cars and vans arrive taking everything we put out on the berm within the first 15 minits!
    By the time the Council guys arrived the Ave had been cleared.
    
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    April 10, 2024 8:52am
- Blog-aholic
  
  People are P.I.G.S.
  
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  April 10, 2024 8:45am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Some guy dumped 40 tyres. ☹️
  
  The increase in illegal dumping is a result of steep increases in the cost of council rubbish dumps. A trailer load of rubbish could easily cost $50.
  
  The Ministry for the Environment thought that steep charges would discourage people from generating rubbish. Oops more unintended consequences. 🤡
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:15am
  - MCōs
    
    There’s a transfer station in Onehunga that I’ve taken rubbish to a couple of times
    If you take a trailer it’s weighed when you go in and out and you pay according to the difference except you can’t get a second opinion if the initial weight is way over the odds
    I read about a guy who was told he had to pay a ridiculous amount because they said he had deposited xkg, which he knew was twice as much as his trailer could handle so he argued the toss and they reassessed his bill
    He many people actually get ripped off?
    
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    April 10, 2024 9:32am
    - peterwn
      
      If the scales are properly certified and checked periodically there should be no problem. This is a legal requirement for all scales used for commercial purposes and that would include landfill scales.
      
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      April 10, 2024 9:45am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      I remember going to the Tip with my dad… he’d sling 10 bucks to the guy in the booth and get waved thru with the horse-float loaded to the brim 😀
      
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      April 10, 2024 10:01am
      - Keith White
        
        Well, the dead horse inside would decompose and return to the native earth, so seems a reasonable accommodation.
        
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        April 10, 2024 10:57am
      - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
        
        Ms Pie – I thought NZ is the least corrupt country in the world…Is that not true???
        
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        April 10, 2024 12:25pm
    - Kiwiguy
      
      I’ve used that station a lot, and actually had a great experience:
      One time I had a load of wet clay to dump. I didn’t have access to any free fill sites, so my only option was to take it to the dump. I knew it would be costly, but I factored it into the price of my project so I was prepared.
      Do you know how long it takes for one unfit bloke to unload a seriously overloaded trailer of wet clay?
      Well, when I finally went through the exit I was expecting to get stung for the full weight, but instead she looked at me, and charged me the standard low trailer rate. I said “Oh, only $25??”
      She looked at me, smiled, and said “Honey, you were in there an awful long time unloading”
      I didn’t ague with her, just thanked her profusely.
      
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      April 10, 2024 2:18pm
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    Show me the incentives, and I’ll show you the outcome. If you want people to be responsible with their rubbish, don’t make them pay for doing the right thing.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:24am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Same thing in Melbourne. Delusional councils think they are clever making disposal of stuff difficult. The result of that is scumbag dumping is rampant. There is dumped crap laying around everywhere in many suburbs. I’ve even seen large asbestos pipes dumped in the night outside people’s houses on half-yearly inorganic waste collection days. Heaven knows what other toxic stuff gets dumped.
    
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    April 10, 2024 5:59pm
  - John Loveridge
    
    Fly-tipping is absolutely out of control in the Far North.
    
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    April 10, 2024 6:19pm
Cassandra

“Experts” still banging on about cycling to work. NZ is the least suitable country on earth for bikes. Wet, windy, hilly – try it in Palmerston North or Christchurch if you want (cold much of the time) but in Wellington, Dunedin or Auckland forget about it.
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April 10, 2024 8:32am
- MCōs
  
  Funnily enough I cycled to work in Wellington for many years
  Admittedly it’s not for the spineless
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:11am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Anyone who cycles from.the Hutt to Wellington in a mid winter southerly is a nut!!!!
    
    I used the cycle to commute Hutt to CBD regularly …. As soon as the southerly set inthe train was the plan…
    
    Are you a nut Mcos????
    
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    April 10, 2024 10:38am
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    Like me.
    
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    April 10, 2024 12:46pm
- Omni Consumer Products
  
  Not to mention the average drivers inability to maintain lane discipline, operate their indicators correctly or use their mirrors/check blind spots.
  
  ~I’m sure all Kiwibloggers are excellent drivers.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:54am
- Benedict Yu
  
  The last census showed about 2 percent of folk cycle to work. That number has not changed much. IIRC more folk cycled to work in the early 1990s than today.
  
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  April 10, 2024 11:32am
  - mawm
    
    The bus lane in the suburb I live in has a
    lots of cyclists using it, certainly far more than before the e-bike craze.
    
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    April 10, 2024 4:41pm
- mogg
  
  Our prevailing wind direction tends NW, so it’s a better idea to cycle back to the Hutt. Do commuter trains have bike facilities?? If it’s decent weather you could always catch a couple of fresh Kahawhai on the way home, put them in the smoker ready for the next day, think all that omega 3.
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:50pm
Rusty

Why are kids wagging school more than ever?

Yes there are hopeless parents but we had a PM who locked up our kids in their homes in 2020-21 with the result kids now think school is only an option.
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April 10, 2024 8:36am
- cmm
  
  Many kids don’t see any relationship between what they are doing at school and what they want to do later in their lives.
  
  A very large % of kids believe they have more chance of becoming Tiktok stars rather than getting work based on what they learn. If that is your belief system then why go to school?
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:17am
- MCōs
  
  My son is a school principal
  I mentioned the last outrage, which was unruly kids
  He said everyone’s got an opinion on what the problem is, but in reality there’s a number of reasons
  I expect the same applies to this issue
  BTW
  When he was in the third form he was a terrible truant!
  Always in trouble with the big boss; now he is one
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:41am
  - lifesgood
    
    Lord help us!
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:14am
    - MCōs
      
      Why do you say that?
      
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      April 10, 2024 2:37pm
  - cmm
    
    But what can they really do?
    
    In my day if you wagged school once you might get a very severe warning. After that you’d get caned.
    
    Now the teachers almost seem inconvenienced if the kids show up.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:43pm
- artemisia
  
  According to Mr Hipkins, some kids are not wagging school but staying home because they are sick. As they should. Covid was mentioned, there’s a surprise. He didn’t explain if there are more sick kids now, and if so how much that explains the continuing drop in absences.
  
  He did say this – “I don’t want to be saying to parents that you should send kids to school even when they’re sick because they’ve already missed five days you’re somehow going to become a bad parent because they get sick a second time in a school term.”
  
  Yes, that is a pretty weird thing to say. Find me a parent who thinks like that.
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:41pm
  - cmm
    
    I’ll bet there are a few sick kids. But only a few.
    
    And not too sick to play Xbox and Tiktok the whole day.
    
    Less than 20% of Maori high schoolers attend school regularly. Are 80% of Maori schoolkids really sick? If so we have a serious health crisis on top of an education crisis.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:46pm
- John Loveridge
  
  Rusty, my youngest daughter started high school this year. Private schools are beyond my very modest means, so on through the state system she went. Now she’s a bright kid, and very hard working. But between the pathetic syllabus, the haphazard timetable, the dire lack of structure, and the frighteningly lazy teachers, she’s bored out of her mind less than one term in. She’s not even slightly challenged. I’m quite concerned, and at a loss. As it stands she might as well bunk. She’d learn more at home with her books and crafts than the crap they do at school all day.
  
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  April 10, 2024 6:25pm
  - peterwn
    
    Look up ‘Crimson Global Academy’. Saw in an article that one highly motivated kid home-schools with them and has her mind set on an Ivy League university.
    
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    April 10, 2024 10:00pm
    - John Loveridge
      
      Crimson Global Academy costs as much as a private school, nearly $30K per year.
      
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      April 11, 2024 5:55pm
Maggie Pie

WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT.

You can’t help but wonder if HAMAS would still have launched what has been described as…… ‘The deadliest attack on the Jews since the holocaust’.
Slaughtering babies, murdering and raping women & girls, burning whole families alive, taking hundreds of innocent civilians hostage 🙁

Surely they must have known there would be a price to pay?

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1777546982665392460
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April 10, 2024 9:14am
- Grunter
  
  Hamas knew exactly what they were doing. And their deliberate extreme butchering and raping were planned to create the reaction from Israel we now see. These nutcase Muslim extremists don’t value life. Their twisted religious brains convince them to die so they become martyrs.
  
  So how do you combat such batshit crazy evilness? Where the more you kill them the worse the problem spreads (ie more Muslims are converted to be twisted religious nutjobs).
  
  I don’t think anyone has a realistic solution to that. I haven’t read one yet. Mass killing, and even “nuke the lot of them” doesn’t make the problem go away – it arguably makes the problem worse. There will always be Muslims, radicalising more of them by killing innocent civilians (and some Muslims are obviously innocent civilians), simply will not work.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:02am
- Ehlana
  
  Depends on your calculus Maggie. They have achieved a huge surge in public support worldwide, and much condemnation of Israel.
  
  I’m not sure there has been a price to pay for Hamas itself. I have heard the leaders and their families don’t live in Gaza. They don’t have to run for re-election or face a free press so there is no pressure on them to end it. It doesn’t seem like the deaths or other suffering of lots of their own people is negative for them.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:39am
  - Inandout
    
    Eh, when German cities were obliterated by the Allied thousand bomber raids the general consensus was to defeat the enemy you must have casualties. I consider Hamas is the enemy and they carried out unspeakable and inhuman acts on Israeli citizens.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:19am
    - Jack5
      
      The Israelis want to kill Hamas guerillas living within the Gaza community.
      
      World War 2 bombing raids such as on, for example, Hamburg, aimed to break support for the Nazi regime of all the city’s people.
      
      In some ways Gaza’s situation resembles that of World War 2 Stalingrad, where scores of thousands of civilians survived in sewers and ruins while fighting raged around them. Without aid convoys.
      
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      April 10, 2024 8:31pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  The price and the resultant anti Israel PR was 100% the whole poibt. When your leadership is enjoying $2000 a night hookers in 5 star hotels in the Gulf… Well then a little collateral damage in Gaza is easy to tolerate
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:40am
- Keith White
  
  Hamas ‘management’ living high off the hog in Qatar, they’re not paying the price. Yet.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:58am
  - artemisia
    
    Munich. Not sure how factual the movie was, assume literary licence. But even if half true, with tech advances and the never forgive attitude some in Qatar might be a bit nervous.
    
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    April 10, 2024 12:59pm
- PurplePen
  
  Read this somewhere last year .. Netanyahu was getting chummy with Arab states. Hamas didn’t like this so did what they did knowing full well what Israel’s reaction would be, which in turn would garner them Arab states support and Arab states would stop getting chummy with Netanyahu.
  
  The other story I read was some months before it all started high-level russian people met with Iran leader and convinced them to whisper in Hamas ear getting them paranoid about chumminess mentioned earlier. The benefit for Russia was it took focus off their naughty behaviour in Ukraine.
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:39pm
- mogg
  
  No that is what Hamas wanted, to them it’s just one big public relations exercise.
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:41pm
- cmm
  
  They don’t care.
  
  Even if they are killed in the process they are doing Allah’s work.
  And when they’ve rebuilt their tunnels they will be back again – be that 10, 20 or 50 years.
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:48pm
greybeard

And so it continues…..
Tova keeps up the crusade to please her masters:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350240619/anatomy-political-misfire-how-pms-accommodation-supplement-saga-unfolded
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April 10, 2024 9:27am
- imalwaysright
  
  Grey,
  
  I wonder if O’Brien has any self awareness.
  Here she is, head fangirl of the tyrant , still leading the charge, while the tyrant is touring the world collecting her exhorbitant payola, staying in the best hotels, feted to the point of embarrassment , while Tova and her ilk are slowly flushed down the public toilet.
  
  You go girl!
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:21am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  But that’s ooold (not) news.
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:48pm
- Kiwiguy
  
  Tova trying to keep up the hate on Luxon while simultaneously trying to stay relevant.
  She needs to realise she’s just an irrelevant, vacuous little girly.
  
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  April 10, 2024 2:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Why many of our kids are struggling with maths

https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/04/10/maths-teaching-fails-pupils-by-ignoring-cognitive-science-findings/
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April 10, 2024 9:33am
- greybeard
  
  What a great article. Thanks.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:42am
- cmm
  
  That’s a very well written article.
  
  Many teachers (including the frequent contributor Alwyn) fail to understand the importance of rote number cranking and problem solving as the basis to maths.
  
  Many think that kids should be given calculators to do the easy stuff so that they can focus on “higher maths”. Those that do this fail to understand that do do higher maths requires learning how to crank the handle by doing a lot of simple maths.
  
  As I understand it, kids in Asian schools do not use calculators until they are 15 or so. They are required to do a lot of mental arithmetic which helps to build a “feel” for numbers.
  
  I did well at school maths. Very well. If I got less than 95% in a test I would have been suicidal. Seriously. I did an average of 1.5 hours of maths homework a day. Just maths.
  
  The idea of group problem solving for maths is completely daft. It is an individual pursuit at this level. Thinking that groups can solve a problem is broken. What you will always end up with is the same one or two people solving the problem and the others just getting a free ride.
  
  Perhaps that group approach works for history and drama etc, but it does not work for maths.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:55am
  - Keith White
    
    When I was a little kid I had to turn up every day when my father was shaving and recite a random times-table. All the way through, even unto 12×12. Get one wrong, the Army belt was out. Focused me on getting it right, that did. Sue Bradford was future history.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:00am
  - Jethrod
    
    1+1=2, 1+2=3,2+1=3,1+3=4,3+1=4,2+2=4 and so on….
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:39am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Imagine letting 30 young kids who have never seen a game of rugby out onto a rugby field with a rugby ball and telling them to group think/problem-solve / investigate their way to becoming an All Black.
    
    …and for the next 10 years provide no explicit instructions about the rules of the game or the competencies expected.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:29pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Another issue with group problem solving in mathematics (or any subject you want students to actually master themselves) is surely the risk that those less able only learn “I can’t do this” and stop trying as the more able students dominate.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:33pm
    - cmm
      
      Yup worse yet is if the “dumb” kids act up instead.
      
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      April 10, 2024 1:49pm
  - PurplePen
    
    Same if you want to play piano .. you won’t get far if you don’t learn your scales and chords by rote and repetitive practice.
    
    Also remember Sr Mary Donatus and Sr Mary Alberta drilling the whole class every day in times tables. Very thankful to both of them.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:42pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    OTOH – why teach the technique for “long division” when noone is going to use it in real life – when was the last time you (manually) divided a six digit number by a 3-digit one.
    
    When I was mentoring yr 8 kids I found that the current technique is totally different to what I learned umpty years ago. I didn’t really follow it. Not that I can recall the last time I did a “live” (ie real life) long division.
    
    Anyway ditto for long multiplication. Waste of time IMO.
    
    In pre-calulator days “real” long div/mult problems were done with log tables or a slide rule. I don’t think any of that is taught now.
    
    When I went to high school we were also taught how to extract a square root – looks a bit like long division but worse …. more time wasted as there were tables for this too.
    
    FWIW I am good with mult tables – you can easily do a very approximate solution to a div/mnt problem to make sure you have the decimal in the right place.
    
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    April 10, 2024 3:05pm
    - PurplePen
      
      I do calcs manually all the time division, multiplication etc .. it’s easier and quicker to just do it with pencil and you have a written record if you need to repeat or go back and check your calcs .. this is for building a house as you go.
      
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      April 10, 2024 4:56pm
- imalwaysright
  
  I know a teacher aide who, on Monday , was teaching 13 and 14 year olds the 3 and 4 times tables.
  The good news is that one of them already knew them.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:48am
- thirteenstars
  
  Oh, but the new policy is to give them an hour of this each day.
  
  The problem isn’t the quantity, it’s the quality. Which also applies to the truancy problem when you think about it.
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:21pm
  - cmm
    
    No, it is very much both quality AND quantity.
    
    To bet proficient at anything requires a lot of effort.
    
    One of my sons was a hockey goal keeper. He did around 4 hours of practice a week, as well as 3 games.
    Every week. Some of that was with Olympic-level coaches, but quality does not replace quantity.
    
    If you want to be good at something there is no short cut.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:53pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      You miss my point, that no matter how much effort you put in, if the system of learning is not fit for purpose all the effort is wasted, indeed it discourages the learner and makes future effort more difficult.
      
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      April 10, 2024 4:49pm
- Jules99
  
  I’m doing a graduate course in education at the moment. Not only is the emphasis on student-led learning, it is framed in terms of colonialism. Bad white teachers use the empty vessel method of forcing knowledge into the brain, while nice ‘traditional’ cultures learn at their own pace in a supportive learning environment that is better suited to children. It was straight out critical education and race theory, and it is complete nonsense. We also have to sit through a powhiri prayer at the start of each lesson. I turn up late so I don’t have to sit though tribal incantations in a language I don’t understand.
  
  I have no doubt young teachers are being brainwashed with this nonsense but they don’t have the experience or knowledge of history that I have to be able to challenge it.
  
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  April 10, 2024 2:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Tucker Carlson with Putin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lak8frcpIuo
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April 10, 2024 9:36am
- imalwaysright
  
  S.O
  Interesting to see that one of Putins conditions for a ceasefire is the abolishment of the anti Jewish nazi battalion, Azov, in the Ukrainian army and the sacking of Nazis and Nazi sympathisers in the Ukrainian regime.
  His message seems to be that he will not tolerate antisemitism.
  Also good that he seems to have separated supporting
  Jewish people from supporting the Israeli government.
  Clearly he isn’t the ogre the media and the west paint him as.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Putin isn’t the ogre that the media paint him out to be. That does not mean Zelenski is an angel.
    I still say Trump’s promise stands. Trump will get Putin and Zelenski together to negotiate, and negotiate until a deal is done. 24 hours? Not so sure about that, but there is one thing Trump does well – love him or hate him, he knows negotiation.
    
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    April 10, 2024 1:05pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Steve,
      
      Two simple questions every time Trump says something like this.
      
      1. How?
      2. Under what authority?
      
      How will Trump insist that Zelensky meet with Putin? What if Zelensky (surely) refuses?
      
      Under what authority can Trump force this to happen?
      
      The answer to both question is that Trump cannot do the thing he so boldly says he will do. And a discerning audience would easily see that is the case.
      
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      April 10, 2024 1:33pm
      - Grunter
        
        I think you miss the point that Trump has been making, which is, without US funding, military equipment and war intelligence systems, the war stops. That doesn’t mean Russia packs up and goes home, it just means the killing stops and Russia gets what they wanted back in Feb 2022.
        
        Zelensky now has nothing to do with any surrender agreement with Putin – things are way past the point where Putin would trust Zelensky. Rember it was Zelensky that ripped up the peace negotiation back in April 2022 (because clown man Borris Johnson promised him stuff that the West could never deliver).
        
        Putin now won’t ‘negotiate’ with anyone from the West. Why would he? Macron is a complete nut. The Germans are in a political mess. Sunak..??? (really!!). Biden can’t run his own bath…. There is no one in the West capable of negotiating with Putin – that is the reality.
        
        People can whinge and complain that “we shouldn’t give in to Putin” – but that doesn’t change the only realistic outcome – Ukraine has lost big time and has no way of turning around this shambles. The sooner they admit this and surrender the less lives will be lost.
        
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        April 10, 2024 3:03pm
      - Taieri
        
        Under what authority can Trump force this to happen?
        —————
        
        Money money money…
        
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        April 10, 2024 3:13pm
      - virtualmark
        
        No, I get what Trump is hinting it.
        
        But while the US is a big contributor of materiel to Ukraine, it’s not the only one. Europe is providing at least as much, and Ukraine is ramping up its own domestic production. So I just don’t believe the US can strong-arm Ukraine into a negotiation or a deal that they don’t want. (And let’s be honest … Trump’s idea of a deal will be very Russia-friendly … he’s not going to insist on a Russian withdrawal is he).
        
        And I suspect Ukraine may prefer to die on their feet rather than live on their knees.
        
        And it’s not actually clear to me that Russia is “winning” – if they are it’s a Pyrrhic victory.
        
        So Trump’s “I can end this in 24 hours” is either delusional, or a lie, or flat-out wrong. But plenty seem undiscerning enough to believe him.
        
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        April 10, 2024 4:08pm
      - virtualmark
        
        As a simple example of why Ukraine may not submit to pressure from Trump for a surrender …
        
        In the last 24 hours:
        * Ukraine has destroyed over 20 Russian tanks, 30 artillery guns, 45 APC, 2 anti-aircraft systems and something like 800 Russian soldiers … Russia is losing equipment faster than it can replace it
        * Germany has committed to provide an extra 20 APCs to Ukraine (Marder APCs, so quite a bit superior to Russia’s BMP-1/2/3 family)
        * The US has redirected to Ukraine over 5,000 AK-47s, machine guns, sniper rifles, RPG-7s and over 500,000 7.62mm rounds that they captured from an Iranian shipment destined for the Houthis.
        
        Yes, Ukraine is hurting. But it doesn’t seem that they’re so far out of the fight that they have to sue for peace. It’s clear Trump would f#!k with them more than the GOP Congress already is … but not clear that that’s such a game changer that they have to surrender.
        
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        April 10, 2024 4:30pm
      - mawm
        
        Trump has the power of the purse. Even if Congress votes to continue to fund it he’ll veto it and pressure (force?) NATO to go along using trade tariffs, etc to get them to agree. The French don’t like the idea of punitive tariffs on their cheeses and champagne.
        
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        April 10, 2024 4:49pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        1 and 2 let the cat out of the bag, so the method fails.
        
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        April 11, 2024 7:31am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Putin has no interest in stopping warring. He needs an external boogieman to excuse his dictatorial ways and allow him to squeeze dissent in the crumbling Russian empire. If he takes Ukraine he’ll just conscript the conquered Ukrainians and continue to build up his military and start on the next conquest, but that much closer to Europe (and more able to threaten them)
      
      West can stop him now with mostly surplus weapons and using ukrainian soldiers, or wait and fight a bigger, stronger and more emboldened Russia later with their own solidiers. Either way the nuclear threat will remain.
      
      As for the bollocks about Nazis in Ukraine; it was clearly only ever a convenient and largely invented propaganda excuse for Russian invasion, along with a lot of false flag work the Russians did to manufacture the conflict they felt they needed to give justification for their invasion, but invasion and restoration of Soviet empire was always Putin’s plan, ‘denazification’ just a pretext.
      
      the Azov brigade which employed some Nazi iconography was a minor fringe right wing group from the ethnically more-Russian east of Ukraine (Karkiv). There is as much or more use of Nazi iconography amongst Russian brigades and conscripts that the Russian military doesn’t seem to care about. Ukraine was after all part of the soviet union for 75 years where all this nazi-hard man bullshit was part of their culture (just as it was for skinheads in west). There’s lot of strongly racist ethnic division in Russia between ethnically European west and Asian east.
      
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      April 10, 2024 3:05pm
- virtualmark
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
  
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  April 10, 2024 2:32pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Like those who pushed the Russian Collusion Hoax etc?
    #Hillary’s Useful Idiots
    
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    April 10, 2024 4:35pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I wonder who you could mean?
    
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    April 11, 2024 7:36am
Notsofast

The final Cass review of gender care for children comes out tomorrow, to be ignored by Parliament, the media, the medical profession, Inside Out, teachers, and social workers.
Keep up the program New Zealand, as instructed by the bill mandating conversion of gay kids with medicalisation and surgery.
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April 10, 2024 9:41am
Maggie Pie

You can probably understand why Kate told them to shove it up their bum!
Getting up at 2 in the morning every day to head into the studio, then having to put up with sh*t like this.
It’s not as though she needed the money or anything.

https://twitter.com/publicaddress/status/1777492490452705716

Wouldn’t surprise me if Mike might be considering his options as well 🙁
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April 10, 2024 9:48am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Yes it would not surprise me if this was Mike Hosking’s last year at ZB. But who would replace him? Perhaps Heather DPA would do the morning show?
  My favorite was always Larry Williams in the afternoon, a real shame he retired.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:45am
- Keith White
  
  What do your expect from Russell the Velcro Flyer…
  
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  April 10, 2024 11:01am
- imalwaysright
  
  Punished for telling the truth.
  Hopefully her audience will grow, that is the only logical
  response to these types.
  
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  April 10, 2024 11:16am
- Jethrod
  
  At a mil a year it’s hard to walk away.
  
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  April 10, 2024 11:40am
- Prince
  
  Russell Brown is responsible for much of the mistrust of NZ Media.
  He really is a very sour old man.
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:02pm
- PurplePen
  
  Can’t imagine Hosking not doing radio .. he lives politics and statistics and lives to share them with anyone.
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:47pm
  - lifesgood
    
    I can’t see the Hosk walking away. He absolutely loves his job and get plenty of holidays to refresh. I’d be very, very upset if he did. He is the best thing on radio.
    
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    April 10, 2024 4:31pm
Tomtoddy

It is starting to look like another “crying wolf” episode on the West Coast over a few heavy showers. Days of vivid and frightening warnings and threats of “rivers” of rain from the climate change activists and all there is so far is three power poles down and a couple of slips.

People will get sick of this drivel and when the big one hits many will be unprepared. Some of these extremists need locking up.
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April 10, 2024 10:10am
- cmm
  
  The question has to be. Are these errors due to:
  * deficiencies in the science and technology (eg. need a new super computer or skills)
  * putting activism first.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:21am
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    The latter. Also fear of being caught with their pants down as happened last year.
    
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    April 10, 2024 12:51pm
- MCōs
  
  You’re right 300mm of rain is fuck all
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:23am
  - Grunter
    
    Weather Watch is predicting something closer to 100mm over 2-3 days. And for the West Coast that is fuck all. In fact, that is almost a drought!
    
    But keep scaring the deluded brainwashed Cossie!
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:06am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    I have been just north of Haast when they had 20 inches over 15 hours… yawn!!
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:15am
- Inandout
  
  ‘According to the World Meteorological Organization, a record 1,825 mm (71.8 in) of rain fell in 24 hours at Foc-Foc (elevation: 2,990 m; 9,810 ft) on the French island territory of Réunion in the Indian Ocean on 7–8 January 1966. The event occurred during the passage of tropical cyclone Denise’.
  
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  April 10, 2024 11:25am
- Tom Hunter
  
  His was a different target sixty years ago but Marty Feldman nailed one of our current religions precisely….
  
  You wanna know ‘ow it’ll be? I’ll tell ‘e….
  
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  April 10, 2024 12:12pm
cmm

Head hunter admits murdering the mongrel mob boss.

Why not? There are only upsides to admitting this:
* There are no real downsides – going to prison for a guy like this is like going to a health spa.
* All the notoriety only boosts his mana. There must be a huge ego boost in being known as the guy that topped the MMob boss.

The only way to reduce crime is to increase the expense side of the equation until crime does not pay.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/mongrel-mob-boss-hit-daniel-eliu-was-shot-six-times-at-point-blank-range-by-patched-head-hunter-in-targeted-murder/7MC2IMPEJZETBBKKPVZUHI5LMM/
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April 10, 2024 10:12am
- Maggie Pie
  
  It’s all their children you have to feel sorry for.
  There’s probably a number of families now who will be missing a dad.
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:55am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    To be fair, they were probably already missing a Dad. What they previously had was a gang recruiter.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:17am
  - Inandout
    
    Maggie, many of those kids wouldn’t know what a father was.
    
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    April 10, 2024 11:27am
  - H. Upmann
    
    Not sure if “dad”is appropriate with either of these cockroaches. Sperm doner maybe but beyond that……
    
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    April 10, 2024 12:22pm
Handyman

Re truancy targets.

So far the media “experts” have proclaimed (depending on the expert).
1. They don’t go far enough.
2. They are unrealistic.
3. We are already doing this.
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April 10, 2024 10:30am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Former PM Jacinda Ardern drags Ruth Richardson’s legacy thru the mud…..but maybe she should be thanking her instead.

https://zurl.co/Wrhv

“That horrible woman is not just content to ruin the country, but is trashing the good management of the previous governments. She should be in jail and it is a total disgrace that Mr Luxon has given her a job”

– GUEST COMMENT.
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April 10, 2024 10:40am
Keith White

Giving her a job is one wrong.
Giving her a half-mill of our taxes is another.
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April 10, 2024 11:02am
MikeMan

So Discovery have confirmed that NewsHub is gone, last news broadcast is the 5th of July.
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April 10, 2024 11:26am
- jon
  
  Must be reasons, but why are Discovery waiting to 5th July to shut Newshub down?
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:21pm
- Swifty
  
  Hooray!
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:26pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Any word on what will be happening with MAFS?
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:38pm
- PurplePen
  
  Just been in twitter and got this under the headline BREAKING NEWS “Some of Kiwi television’s biggest stars have today been on the other side of the story, fronting on the heartbreak they’re experiencing as one of New Zealand’s largest news providers confirms it’s shutting up shop.”
  
  It did make me laugh I’m sorry .. biggest stars .. heartbreak … give us a break.
  
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  April 10, 2024 3:35pm
  - Swifty
    
    Puke inducing….
    
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    April 10, 2024 6:09pm
  - graham
    
    The phrase “Legends in their own minds” seems quite apt …
    
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    April 10, 2024 6:30pm
softail 1450

Take care, our ASB monthly account balance had $14,99 taken out by “ Sydney Apple/ bill” ,,the ASB aren’t sure if it’s a scam yet,. I bet they aren’t..
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April 10, 2024 12:15pm
Jack5

Erica Stanford has made a fine start as Immigration Minister.

What a contrast with Labour’s 2023 record blow-out of 173,000 immigrants, and the exploitation of many of them.

Stanford immigration rules:

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/government-responds-unsustainable-net-migration
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April 10, 2024 12:18pm
Jack5

Canute -> Ardern -> Peters ….

Winston Peters seems to have taken up an Ardern crusade: fighting sea rise.

Ardern, in 1921, with other leaders at the Pacific Islands Forum, issued a “Declaration on Preserving Maritime Zones in the Face of Climate Change-Related Sea-Level Rise”.

This is despite scientists finding that hundreds of Pacific Islands are growing in size (second link below).

Deputy Prime Minister Peters, reporting from New York on talks with UN Secretary-General Guterres, says at the Government web site: “New Zealand is honoured to be playing a leadership role in the United Nations in preparing a High Level Meeting on sea level rise in September.”

(Not sure “high level meeting” got capital letters. Is this a Freudian slip about fear of super-high tides?)

Winston reports back on the rising sea – and Gaza:

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/pacific-and-gaza-focus-un-talks

Scientists say Pacific Islands are expanding:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-08/why-are-hundreds-of-pacific-islands-getting-bigger/13038430
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April 10, 2024 12:43pm
- greybeard
  
  If the sea level rises are as drastic as some predict then Gaza , as a low-lying and mainly flat coastal strip will be inundated and nature will have solved their problems.
  Or have moved them elsewhere.
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:54pm
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    Edit: Ardern, in ~~1921~~ 2021, with other leaders at the Pacific Islands Forum.
    
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    April 10, 2024 2:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/julian-batchelor-interviewed-by-michael-laws-is-the-government-making-progress-to-stop-co-governance/
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April 10, 2024 1:22pm
jon

Today, the 10/4/24, marks the 56th anniversary of the capsizing of the interisland ferry, Wahine, just inside the entrance to Wellington harbour, with the tragic loss of many lives. RIP
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April 10, 2024 1:31pm
Maggie Pie

My partner was saying Elon Musk has his scouts looking for a suitable site
to build a $3 billion assembly-plant in Tamil Nadu.
He expects to have it up and running late 2026.

The question I have…. who on earth would buy a TESLA made in India? 🙁
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April 10, 2024 1:36pm
- greybeard
  
  Goodness gracious me, not me…..
  
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  April 10, 2024 1:50pm
  - greybeard
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUZCXaStvnc
    
    Just to explain to all the younger readers of this blog…………
    
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    April 10, 2024 4:21pm
Swifty

The Posie Parker liars say their demise is ‘a huge blow for democracy’:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350241157/listen-newshub-really-gone-presenters-insiders-rue-huge-blow-democracy

Scumbags.

Entitled, up themselves scumbags.
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April 10, 2024 1:56pm
- Swifty
  
  If these 250 affected people all put in $100,000 each, and those older players like Gowernout in a little more – that would mean more than $25,000,000 would be available to initially fund their own operation:
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/513905/live-all-newshub-operations-to-be-shut-down-250-jobs-to-go
  
  But alas, I think Gower et al wouldn’t back this “magic” operation “that Kiwis deserve” – no, he just wants other people to risk their cash, but not his.
  
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  April 10, 2024 3:42pm
- Swifty
  
  A surprising number of good comments underneath this Herald article:
  
  https://www.facebook.com/share/wBy5uya8Ef6GFxi4/?mibextid=WC7FNe
  
  Basically, see ya later. No loss.
  
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  April 10, 2024 3:53pm
Hugh Jarse

These people were a threat to democracy not the protector of it. They took money to not criticise pet Labour government projects, including changing our governance arrangements, suppressed free speech by not publishing adverse comment on their websites and changed the name of our country and towns without our consent or even asking us. They were the smug superior inhabitants of a small self serving circle jerk. They were not our friends as Paddy claimed, they were our enemy. They did this to themselves.
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April 10, 2024 2:41pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

NZ is the same. Put up a refugee – “I would if I had room”
Total horseshit! Hypocrites.

https://rumble.com/v4o8sdk-lol-refugees-welcome-activists-asked-to-adopt-a-refugee-hilarity-ensues.html?
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April 10, 2024 3:07pm
- Inandout
  
  SO, if any of those school kids were asked the same question about refugees you would get the same answers..no room, would if I could.
  
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  April 10, 2024 4:07pm
slightlyrighty

So to those who thought that TVNZ journo’s were independant of the last Labour Government…..

From Stuff.co.nz….

“Michael Wood of E Tū, which represents TVNZ’s journalists, has called on the Government to help find solutions to Aotearoa’s rapidly diminishing news and current affairs industry.”

Yes, it’s THAT Michael Wood.
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April 10, 2024 3:17pm
- Swifty
  
  Yes, one last attempt by him to preserve the taxpayer funding of his friendly media.
  
  It’s a bloody disgrace.
  
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  April 10, 2024 3:54pm
- Keith White
  
  “Et tu, Woodus?”
  
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  April 10, 2024 4:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Triple whammy?
Who is starting to feel sorry for the Democrats?

https://pjnewsletter.com/trump-triple-victory-dems/?
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April 10, 2024 4:22pm
Aldousk

Learning addition, and multiplication tables by rote gives one a “number landscape” in which the various relationships among numbers stand out. Without this landscape, numbers are just a meaningless jumble.
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April 10, 2024 5:52pm
Swifty

Of course Lee has no control of what reporters write, but she has come across quite weak in this piece, in my view:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/513939/media-minister-had-more-than-enough-time-to-find-solutions-opposition

She should be knocking this issue, and lightweights like Hipkins and Swarbrick, for six daily.

“I will not use taxpayer’s scarce funds to subsidise TVNZ’s failing business model.”

“It will be a cold day in hell before I take even more money from hard-pressed NZ families and give it to multinational media organisations…..”

“ If Hipkins and Swarbrick really value a ‘diverse media landscape’ as they claim then I’m sure they will support me with my new ‘media voucher’ scheme where every adult NZer would receive a $100 annually to spend on news media of their choosing.”

“Let NZers decide what news media to support, not politicians! Now that’s real democracy!”

Etc etc.

Lee should be having a field day!

I’m starting to worry about Lee.
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April 10, 2024 6:03pm
Jack5

Indonesians, like Australians, are rejecting boat-people refugees. This time it’s Rohingya sailing from Bangladesh, where they were driven by persecution in Myanmar.

The Indonesian Navy has begun patrolling to stop refugees from landing.

Many Indonesias in West Aceh, Sumatra, are increasingly hostile to Rohingya, who arrive in flimsy boats arrive after weeks at sea.

You have to wonder how long before boat-people begin sailing for NZ in numbers.

Meanwhile Rohingya still in Burma/Myanmar, after being murdered or driven out to Bangladesh in persecution led by the Myanamar Army, are now being conscripted into that army, which is engaged in civil war.

China is trying to negotiate an agreement for Myanmar to take back in the Rohingya it drove out.

Rohingya not welcome in Sumatra:

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/aceh-rohingya-03282024120831.html

(Radio Free Asia is financed by the US Government.)

Myanmar now wants them in its Army:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/myanmars-army-massacred-rohingyas-now-it-wants-their-help/ar-BB1letib
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April 10, 2024 7:55pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Toxic Tova twists the knife on Te Reo Luxon’s back big time.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350240619/anatomy-political-misfire-how-pms-accommodation-supplement-saga-unfolded
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April 10, 2024 9:29pm
- Jack5
  
  Nope. Who gives a rat’s arse about a politician claiming an allowance he’s entitled to.
  
  Especially when one of the defeated mob, like Grant Robertson, gets set up by Labour cronies with a cushy university job at three times an MP’s salary.
  
  That after Robertson and his Reserve Bank mate set off the inflation we’re suffering from. Set it off by blowing out the money supply by more than $50 billion. Did it by printing money the bond-issue way.
  
  Government issues the bonds. Government buys them.
  
  With NZ in financial confusion after Labour, we’re lucky to have a PM with a solid financial background.
  
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  April 10, 2024 9:47pm
- peterwn
  
  She is just regurgitating stale news. Tova was probably short of something to write about so recycles news.
  What I cannot understand is if the media consider they need Government support, then why do they keep putting the boot into Chris Luxon?
  
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  April 10, 2024 10:06pm
kiwikidsnz

Interesting…why didn’t National also support this?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/samoa-citizenship-bill-passes-first-hurdle-in-parliament-with-help-of-act-and-nz-first/TTESU23GOJDTDMMSSFUYG643C4/
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