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Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump will deport millions of illegals from California.

https://rightsideoffers.com/redbloodedconservative/how-trump-plans-to-deport-a-million-illegal-aliens-from-california/?
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April 7, 2024 8:02am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Let’s have a party.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-s-43-million-fundraiser-ex-president-prepares-for-250-000-a-head-glitzy-mar-a-lago-bash-hosted-by-hedge-fund-manager-john-paulson-to-close-the-fundraising-gap-with-biden/ar-BB1lasx3
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April 7, 2024 8:03am
- MCōs
  
  Have you enquired about a Goldcard discount for yourself?
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Invite has not turned up yet.
    Might have to forge one.
    
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    April 7, 2024 8:50am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Mcos,
    Sorry to see 5 downticks so far! There are some humourless types on here. Lighten up people.
    At least Steve has the humour.
    
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    April 7, 2024 9:03am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I have always had it. Lefties are born without a sense of humour and it can not be installed.
      
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      April 7, 2024 9:29am
      - bjools
        
        NO…NO…NO…
        Lefties have a sense of humour.
        BUT…it is only a sense.
        
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        April 7, 2024 9:45am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Lefties lose their sense because they are required to have a frontal lobotomy
        
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        April 7, 2024 11:35am
      - Observer of Life
        
        Bjools: Comment of the day!! 😂
        
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        April 7, 2024 12:25pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Perhaps there should be a donate your (not needed) gold card to a needy person scheme?
    
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    April 7, 2024 6:30pm
Scott

American conservative commentator Allie Beth Stuckey shared this post today. It’s from a nanny of a 3 year old girl born by surrogacy who is being raised by two homosexual men, one of whom is the dad.

“The little girl had no mother figure but clung to me, called me mommy and asked me where her mommy was. She carried around a baby doll she pretended to be the mommy of. This sweet three year old girl had so many questions and needs only a mother could provide her with. It broke my heart. ”

Stuckey comments-” this is not the first time I’ve heard from a nanny, babysitter who cared for a child born via egg selling / surrogacy who was inconsolably sad about having no mommy. Kids know!”
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/eMCTZ6vK9RyRgXBA/?mibextid=oFDknk

I would add; as a civilisation we have lost our minds. There is a natural God given order, mum and dad and the kids. At some level everyone knows this.
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April 7, 2024 8:05am
- David Garrett
  
  Scott: It’s got nothing to do with “God” mate…there is just a natural order of things, however it came about.
  
  I often think about the collapse of the Centrepoint community run by “Dirty Bertie” Potter. The collapse began because teenage girls who had been born and raised there sensed there was something wrong with having communal showers where the older men who ogled them could later have sex with them.
  
  Your “natural order” also exists in China, where the vast majority of the population are entirely irreligious, and Christians are like hens’ teeth. How do you explain that?
  
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  April 7, 2024 12:29pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Up until quite recently, being a single mother in China was next to impossible. Things seem to be changing, albeit slowly. The government is desperate to increase the birth rate.
    
    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-sichuan-frees-unmarried-people-legally-have-children-2023-01-30/
    
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    April 7, 2024 12:40pm
  - Scott
    
    Mr Garrett, thanks for your comments. I would again say there is a God given order of mum, dad and the kids. The order precedes the arrival of Jesus ministry and is rooted in God’s creation in Genesis chapter 1 –
    Genesis 1:27 (NIV)
    “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”
    
    So that’s why the Chinese people, though mostly not Christian, have the family of mum and dad and the kids. It’s the created order which applies to all of the human race.
    
    The example of Bert Potter would be a cautionary tale of what happens when you depart from the created order and make up the rules as you go along. Chaos and misery ensues.
    
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    April 7, 2024 2:23pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Scott: ““So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”
      
      Don’t forget people born intersex. What’s your story about them?
      
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      April 7, 2024 4:45pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Intersex as in born with half female and half male genitalia. Or varying degrees thereof. What’s the story there?
        
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        April 7, 2024 5:47pm
      - Ghost
        
        If a God created man in his own image that includes gay, bisexuality etc
        
        I do wonder how man-made religions will cope with the day that man finds out we aren’t alone in the universe and that these belief system are man made
        
        We will soon find out
        
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        April 7, 2024 5:53pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Ghost I’m thinking vegans who do a lot of charity for the poor and down trodden might get the rewards in the next life (if there is one). I’m thinking probably a good idea not to be a “see you next Tuesday” in this life.
        
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        April 7, 2024 6:26pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Downtickers at it again. Please do not question our beliefs!
        
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        April 7, 2024 6:32pm
    - Scott
      
      NZer in exile – I appreciate there are a few people born intersex. We would see that as part of the fall. The world is not as God originally created it. So there is sickness and death. There are genetic abnormalities such as people born with both male and female genetalia. But that was not part of the original plan.
      
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      April 7, 2024 6:39pm
      - Scott
        
        Ghost – I was merely trying to answer your comment from a biblical point of view.
        I would add that the bible is the foundation of the western civilisation we enjoy. It provides us with a way of living that actually works and is sustainable. Living the Christian life is not easy but it provides many people, including me, with meaning and purpose that is greater than myself.
        
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        April 7, 2024 7:56pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Scott: “So there is sickness and death. There are genetic abnormalities such as people born with both male and female genetalia. But that was not part of the original plan.”
        
        Scott yes I did kind of know that’s the story. So according to that story, the plan was wholesome goodness, but things kind of went haywire?
        
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        April 8, 2024 10:18pm
    - Scott
      
      Ghost – the original plan as recorded in Genesis is that we were created male and female. Men and women marry and look after each other and any children that may ensue.
      Homosexuality is seen as a sin against that created order. Both in the Old Testament –
      Genesis 19:5 (NIV)
      5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
      
      And in the New Testament –
      Romans 1:26 (NIV)
      26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.”
      
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      April 7, 2024 6:46pm
      - Ghost
        
        Unfortunately for you the book you have based your life on is simply a means to control, suppress and manipulate you. You’ve been brainwashed. Don’t bother preaching, I don’t read that crap
        
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        April 7, 2024 7:05pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    Why do you think that the vast majority of the Chinese are irreligious? They are still practicing religions older than Rome, and that’s the city not just Catholicism.
    April 4th was “Tomb Sweeping day” a national holiday.
    Also probably more than 50 million Christian in China
    
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    April 8, 2024 2:25am
sirknz

Did anyone at The Post not think through the implications of English translation of their Maori name?

It literally translates as ‘The head of the fish’ and as the old saying goes, the fish rots from the head first.
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April 7, 2024 8:10am
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  I don’t know much Te Reo Māori but I regularly look words up.
  Often, the translations for everyday English terms don’t work well.
  When can we finally admit the Emperor is, in fact, stark bollock naked?
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:00am
- Ghost
  
  Upoko o Te Ika is the Wellington region
  
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  April 7, 2024 2:35pm
  - Gussy Fink-Nottle
    
    It’s missing ‘a Maui’ though.
    And presumably that’s distinct from Pōneke.
    Or Te Whanganui a Tara.
    The more I try to understand, the more confused I get.
    
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    April 7, 2024 4:14pm
    - Ghost
      
      NZTA use it for greater wellington. Agree, it’s stupid and I think some companies are turning back away from doing this.
      
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      April 7, 2024 4:19pm
Chuck Bird

No jail time. These judges could be replaced by AI.

Teen sentenced in Youth Court to pay $3k for rape of two girls, indecent assault of another

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teen-sentenced-in-youth-court-to-pay-3k-for-rape-of-two-girls-and-indecent-assault-of-another/GTFLT2RQMRBEJKE5ZFU3DU3OFE/
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April 7, 2024 8:11am
- Anthony Melchett
  
  It’s seems it’s literally ok to rape people now.
  
  Put the judge in prison. How could he look at himself after this. Oh its about making sure the offender is ok.
  
  If that was one of my daughters the boy would be begging to go to jail
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:16am
  - Taieri
    
    Wonder how would the judge feel if it was his daughter/sister/wife?
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:35am
  - David Garrett
    
    Anthony: If Judge Brandt Shortland is who I think he is, I worked with him. God only knows how he got a law degree – he was semi- literate and had trouble following cases of even moderate complexity.
    
    If he is the guy I think he is, he is on the bench for one reason and one only: he has brown skin.
    
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    April 7, 2024 1:24pm
    - David Garrett
      
      I’ve just seen a link to a story about Shortland being appointed a DCJ in 2020. He IS the guy I worked with 20 years ago. Fucking unbelievable.
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:34pm
- Morry45
  
  I’d have to hazard a guess that this judge doesn’t have daughters.
  
  This punk did this to my daughters and he would wish he was in prison.
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:23am
- Benedict Yu
  
  A $1000 emotional harm payment to each girl? ☹️
  
  I have no idea whether it has always been like this. 30, 40, 50 years ago, what would the penalty have been if a 15 year old raped two girls? Maybe David Garrett knows.
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:23am
  - MCōs
    
    50 or 60 years ago probably not what you’re thinking
    Almost certainly nothing unless the girl got pregnant and then she’d be ‘sent away’ until the birth and the baby adopted or maybe there’d be a wedding
    Police highly unlikely to be involved
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:14am
    - David Garrett
      
      MCos: You clearly have absolutely no idea of the history of our criminal justice system.
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:27pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      You think that in 1970s New Zealand, a raped girl would marry the rapist? I really doubt that.
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:46pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Bene: In 1970’s NZ this young prick would definitely have been sent to Borstal for a number of years. As a newcomer to NZ you may not know that Borstals were effectively prisons for offenders too young to be sentenced to adult prison.
        
        To be fair though, convictions for rape were pretty hard to obtain in 1970’s NZ. Back then, women were allowed to be questioned about their sexual history, and even if they had orgasmed during the rape.
        
        Needless to say if the victim had the sexual history of a “loose woman”, and admitted it, her assailant would rarely be convicted. The founder of the firm I worked for in New Plymouth was something of a specialist in defending rape accused. He won far more than he lost apparently.
        
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        April 7, 2024 2:16pm
  - Swifty
    
    Muttonbird has converted me to his way of thinking.
    
    Just like armed robberies are the fault of vape and ciggy-selling dairy owners, these rapes are the girl’s own fault, their fault for being women.
    
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    April 7, 2024 12:04pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Bene: He would have been sent to borstal, which was today’s equivalent of a Youth Justice facility, only a damn sight less comfortable. Go back to the 1940’s and such a young criminal might have been given a whipping as well. Perhaps not at 15.
    
    Of course it’s just a random coincidence that during the era of harsh punishments, the crime rate – particularly the violent crime rate – was a mere fraction of what it is now. In 1959 there were NO homicides in NZ, not a one.
    
    Until the early 1970’s our homicide rate per 100,000 of population per annum was about 0.5. It is now more than three times that.
    
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    April 7, 2024 1:19pm
    - JohnRidd
      
      When I was young my parents would threaten to send my brother and I to borstal when we were naughty.
      
      Didn’t seem to do us much harm. Probably they would be up on charges these days.
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:51pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Here. Go buy yourself (half) an Iphone. See ya.
    
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    April 7, 2024 5:49pm
- wsk12345
  
  Wow I wonder how much you pay for a prostitute these days. That judge has basically just called those girls hookers as they get paid for their virginity or for giving oral. Wow how unbelievably offensive.
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:37am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    About $200.
    
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    April 7, 2024 9:21am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Your friend told you?
      
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      April 7, 2024 9:45am
    - David Garrett
      
      Bene: You – or your informant – must be going to a better class of whorehouse!
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:30pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    This little prick will be crowing.
    He may as well ask the Judge if he pays double can he do it again?
    
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    April 7, 2024 9:46am
    - peterwn
      
      Now, who first said that? Judge should have discharged him without conviction since he was severely provoked while fishing.
      
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      April 7, 2024 6:02pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yep, Bob Jones!
        
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        April 8, 2024 7:45am
  - The Housekeeper
    
    Totally agree wsk. If he pays another $3000 can he rape 3 more?
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:07am
- PeeJay
  
  Poor bloody victims – having had this awful thing happen to them and then, no doubt, having their every action go under the microscope in court, and then to sit there and realise their trauma has a price of around $1k.
  
  The justice system seems to provide little in the way of justice and seems totally skewed towards the offenders and the victims seem little more than an afterthought.
  
  This is disgusting and is so unfair on these three girls.
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:43am
  - pdm
    
    What gets me is that these piss poor judicial decisions are never appealed.
    
    Why?????
    
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    April 7, 2024 9:40am
- JackRabbit
  
  No not AI. Are you crazy?
  
  Unfortunately, the judge has put a price on the rape of a female virgin at $1000. AI would probably look up the going rate on the dark web and make it $250. Choir boys probably get more. I can almost guarantee if they were transgender ‘girls’ there would be public demonstrations over the light sentences.
  
  AI is just programing. So unless the AI is programmed by Jack Reacher, instead of woke, outcomes will be a lot worse.
  
  Programs don’t have feelings or empathy, they don’t feel pity or remorse. They just do whatever they are programmed to do.
  
  Chuck, you need to seriously inspect your thinking. Worshiping AI is as bad as worshiping Ardern, Biden, Gates, Schwab, etc.
  
  Who exactly is going to program this AI you hold in so high regard? WHO/WEF/Harvard?
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:04am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  $5/week, huh?
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:11am
- Philview
  
  I read an article on the Daily Mail site this morning that New Zealand is the 3rd most promiscuous country in the World. On the one hand we promote ourselves as a liberal place full of casual sex but on the other we expect young people to navigate this casual set up.
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:12am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t think it is difficult for most young people to “navigate” consent.
    
    This was rape. We can have a debate about whether casual sex is a good or bad thing but it has no bearing on the crime that was committed here.
    
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    April 7, 2024 9:25am
  - Che Guava
    
    “On the one hand we promote ourselves as a liberal place full of casual sex but on the other we expect young people to navigate this casual set up.”
    
    You’ve hit the nail on the head. This is a huge factor here: these complaints are three years old, and how are we to know, given that we are “a liberal place full of casual sex” that this isn’t a case of casual sex later regretted?
    
    It’s not at all to condone actual rape to ask “what is the evidence here, except for testimony?”
    
    I think there would be far fewer “rapes” reported if we had a culture that reinstilled the idea of males and females getting married young, and who were therefore having sex within marriage, and who were therefore not out “partying” and getting into situations like this one. Liberalising attitudes to casual sex and promiscuity (and the expectations thereof) has consequences, and cases like this are one of them.
    
    The reason “rapes” have skyrocketed is because our sexual behaviour as a society has been liberalised and this comes with huge issues, among them high levels of solo motherhood as well as high instances of ambiguity leading to claims of sexual assault.
    
    A lot of the many social ills we have to confront would be completely avoided if we were a moral society with expectations and standards.
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:50am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “The reason “rapes” have skyrocketed is because our sexual behaviour as a society has been liberalised….”
      
      You have absolutely no evidence for such a claim.
      
      No we should not be encouraging people to get married young. Choosing a partner, and someone to have children with, is a critical life decision. How many 18 year olds make good decisions?
      
      You are cinflating societal change in relation to sexual behaviour and marriage with the incidence of rape. With no evidence.
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:59pm
      - Che Guava
        
        Imagine demanding a source for what is a qualitative claim, rather than thinking for yourself. We’ve got to be able to make observations and connect them with rational inferences to reach conclusions.
        
        Do you really need a “study” to conclude that when sexual behaviour is liberalised, and thus people are having causal hook-ups with people they don’t really know, that “rapes” (and I used inverted commas for a reason) will increase (with a “rape” being an regretted sexual encounter)? This is obvious to anyone who can observe social behavioural patterns.
        
        It is true, or not true, that reported rapes have increased as sexual behaviours have been liberalised? Yes, that is true.
        
        Have we all just suddenly become rapists, or is it because the situations that lead to rape allegations have broadened so much in scope? It’s the latter.
        
        “No we should not be encouraging people to get married young. Choosing a partner, and someone to have children with, is a critical life decision. How many 18 year olds make good decisions?”
        
        If you knew anything about history, you’d know that it was the norm for people to get married and start families early. Don’t make the mistake of assuming that how things are done now are either the best practice or even normal.
        
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        April 7, 2024 4:06pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        The main factor in (actual bone fide) rapes is neanderthal dickhead thug CULTURE among certain subsets of society.
        
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        April 7, 2024 4:57pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “Do you really need a “study” to conclude that when sexual behaviour is liberalised…” [?]
        
        YES
        
        You think some gut at 18 or 19 marrying his first girlfriend is a good idea? FFS it is a bonehead idea.
        
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        April 7, 2024 5:09pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        I’m thinking “some guy at 18 or 19 marrying his first girlfriend” is quite possibly better than bonking 100 women then later attempting to “get serious”.
        
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        April 7, 2024 6:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A very disturbing aspect about this case is that the young man/boy has been a predator within the home. The girls have been raped and sexually abused within a setting where they should have been safe.
  
  Where were the adults?
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:27am
  - Taieri
    
    Where were the adults?
    ————
    
    Indeed. The adults always seem to be missing when young people are involved in a crime. Any crime
    “…referred to the Youth Aid” is a very intriguing phrase. Are their parents also referred to some “aid”?
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:39am
- imalwaysright
  
  What’s the bet that the girls are from relatively poor families.
  If they were daughters of politicians, business people or upper civil servants etc there would have been proper punishment.
  Two tier system .
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:30am
  - Swifty
    
    I’m not so sure about that.
    
    My eldest daughter knows this guy.
    
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    April 7, 2024 12:06pm
    - Swifty
      
      *Sorry, and at least some of the victims, if not all.
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:30pm
- greybeard
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/northlands-brandt-shortland-sworn-in-as-district-court-judge/57U7RLPMD2BBXKUWSCSC5EK6PM/
  They are different up north.
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:55am
- Mr Nobody NZ
  
  If the Court system won’t provide justice to the victims and society then they cannot be surprised when the victims and society take justice into their own hands.
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:49am
  - Ghost
    
    Then you are no better than the criminal.
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:23am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      No.
      
      We as a society have ceded vengeance to the ruling power… In NZ its Parluament and the Justice system it provides, whether Police, courts, judges, prison service etc.
      
      When that power refuses to protect and punush then citizens have every right to protect themselves, including serking a rebalance of honour when the justice fails to take vengeance on our behalf.
      
      Citizens follow the social contract but it seems both the Police and Courts are failing I protecting the citizenry and punishing law breakers.
      
      You may think the people should just accept rubbish sentencing, but I dint.
      
      And as I have said on this blig any number of times, continued failure to adequately punish serious offenders willinevitable lead to vigilante justice.
      
      Our Judiciary live protected lifes in nice suburbs…. Their judgments dont effect them.. They are failing in their duty…
      
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      April 7, 2024 11:32am
      - Ghost
        
        Whether you accept the verdict or not, the court has ruled. If you then want to take vengeance into your own hands then you are no better than the rapist. The judge got it wrong, it happens, the solution is not to take justice into your own hands, it is change the laws that the judges work within.
        
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        April 7, 2024 12:05pm
greenfinger

Interesting comments from Damien Grant about Orr who still thinks he is not responsible for the runaway inflation in NZ over the last two years. 😱 He should hang his head in shame! Can’t imagine what he would put down on his CV for his next job as his main achievement while presiding over RBNZ?
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April 7, 2024 8:41am
- Paulus
  
  Unlike other RNNZ [RBNZ] Governors Orr has been controlled by the appointment of a Grant Robertson Committee who do whet he tells them what to do.
  Good to see two appointees are just replaced by some non aligned Labour peo0ple with considerable Banking and Financial experience.
  Others to follow soon ?
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:29am
  - backster
    
    Whats the saying? A camel is a horse designed by a committee or similar. Labour almost over ran us with camels. Dispense with the committees altogether and install people capable of making decisions and taking responsibility.
    
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    April 7, 2024 12:06pm
Terry Dalee

We need more articles like this:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/meet-the-self-made-man-who-overcame-booze-and-crime-to-build-a-multimillion-dollar-trucking-empire/Q6T3WLK74JH7JMLDH4333XCGCM/
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April 7, 2024 8:43am
Don Beckett

KB is very muted this morning. Everyone must be off to the rainbow games. 😆
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April 7, 2024 8:47am
- CJames
  
  The more likely reason in the moderators are having a well-deserved sleepin.
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:50am
  - Flossie
    
    We all got an extra hour sleep in this morning!
    
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    April 7, 2024 9:07am
- PurplePen
  
  Daylight saving change maybe? But you’re right. I’ll go and weed the garden for a bit and have and contribute to the Reddit/New Zealand forum see if I can’t inject some new ideas there.
  
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  April 7, 2024 8:51am
Hugh Jarse

It would appear that the interests of the offender have been well and truly taken into account by Judge and Rape Prevention people. The cultural report must have been a doozy to ignore that fact this was offending over a period of months with multiple victims, not a one off event.
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April 7, 2024 8:51am
Chuck Bird

For those who have Sky, the Outsiders is on from 11 am to 1 pm. Rowan Dean has all the news on climate alarmism and nuclear power generation.
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April 7, 2024 8:57am
MCōs

In the summer of 2018 I struck up a conversation with a Muslim guy in Cornwall Park who’s friend from a Ponsonby mosque had just been killed by a bomb in Kabul the day before he was due to return to NZ. He also told me the police had been sniffing round their mosque on the lookout for extremists
Meanwhile down in Dunedin the real extremist was accumulating guns unmolested ready to shoot up the Chch mosques
Now the police are expected to chase around after guys wearing gang insignia whether or not they’ve committed any crime while Tom Phillips has been able to do what he likes for two years with three kids even though he faces charges of bank robbery, attempted burglary, aggravated wounding and possession of a firearm
https://x.com/tauhenare/status/1776504637887246374?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
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April 7, 2024 9:02am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Now the police are expected to chase around after guys wearing gang insignia whether or not they’ve committed any crime
  
  Heck, they can’t sit around all day binning reports…
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/513615/police-abandoned-60-percent-of-reported-cases-in-2023
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:06am
- Keith White
  
  Having treated the dead, dying and crippled after Muslim bombings of hotels, shopping centres, buses. etc I have little empathy to spare for the biggest perps of such attacks – especially as their own religious people praise them. I’m also interested in the role of Ardern-chaired Cabinet Committee relaxing the vetting rules, the ease with which the butcher Tarrant entered NZ after a very strange travel history including North Korea, and let’s not forget the two cops who “vetted” Tarrant over the phone.
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:10am
  - MCōs
    
    So the police kept an eagle eye on the NZ Muslim community and Tarrant slipped through the system
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:27am
  - Taieri
    
    the two cops who “vetted” Tarrant over the phone
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    That part seems to have been forgotten…
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:41am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      If you are talking about the firearms licence, no it was not forgotten. It featured extensively in the Royal Commission report.
      
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      April 7, 2024 10:57am
    - backster
      
      Never forget the two cops who put a stop to it all. Old time cops doing it their way.
      
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      April 7, 2024 12:11pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    IIRC he had not traveled to North Korea. He had travelled extensively and had been to Pakistan and the Balkin countries.
    
    There was nothing about his travel that would have precluded him from entry to New Zealand. So as an Australian citizen with a clean record, he walked right in.
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      He went to N.Korea with a tour group 8-18 Sept. 2014.
      
      https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/the-report/firearms-licensing/the-regulation-of-semi-automatic-firearms/
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:31pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Thanks for that.
        
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        April 7, 2024 2:01pm
    - Keith White
      
      He had travelled to NK as well as Turkey and Pakistan. Unusual but not criminal. The vetting error was NZ Police 100% and they brushed it under the carpet and made all law-abiding firearms owners their cover. Gutless.
      
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      April 7, 2024 5:37pm
  - Che Guava
    
    What was strange about his travel history? What connection would going to North Korea have with his later actions?
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:31am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    I understand they also rubber stamped him purchasing large amounts of ammunition. Police negligence or something more sinister.
    
    One thing common to Tarrant and the other mass murdering nutters is they are imports. Yet the left used the Chch incident to massively push a narrative of a foul underbelly of white supremacy in NZ, as if all people of European heritage are part of the KKK in NZ. To the world Jacinda was wonderful, providing unifying leadership after this incident. To NZers it was the start of her leadership of divisiveness. The media quick to highlight Gangs showing unity with Muslim’s as if they too were innocent victims of racism in NZ.
    
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    April 7, 2024 1:47pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Once he got the firearms licence, he was good to go. There is nothing particularly unusual about licenced firearm owners buying large quantities of ammunition. The critical failure was giving him the licence.
      
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      April 7, 2024 2:03pm
      - Pope Punctilious II
        
        Well his purchasing of FOUR semi-automatics in a short space of time should have raised a red flag too.
        
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        April 7, 2024 2:50pm
    - Taieri
      
      One thing common to Tarrant and the other mass murdering nutters is they are imports.
      ——–
      
      David Gray wasn’t. Stan Graham wasn’t. Brian Schlaepfer wasn’t. Raymond Ratima wasn’t. All of them were home-grown.
      
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      April 7, 2024 5:11pm
      - Keith White
        
        Since we grow our own why should we import more?
        
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        April 7, 2024 5:38pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Gangs. That’s right MCos, nothing to see here. Nothing at all. And on Muslim extremists, there are several studies in the public sphere that show that the vast majority of terrorist acts are perpetrated by Muslims – it varies between 65% and 85%. Wonder why the police look for Muslim extremists? Hard to say, isn’t it?
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:30am
  - MCōs
    
    How many of those reports are specific to NZ?
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:30am
    - Matt Long
      
      “In 2018, 36% of all prisoners and 70% of Māori prisoners had gang connections. The majority of gang members in prison were there for drugs, violence or sexual violation.”
      “Initiation ceremonies
      In Mongrel Mob and Black Power initiation ceremonies ‘prospects’ must prove themselves in tests ranging from drinking urine from a gumboot to committing a specific crime, being bashed by the gang, or serving jail time for a crime committed by a patched member. Cam Stokes, a former police officer, argues that prospects ‘must be prepared to engage in illegal activities to prove their loyalty to the gang and to eliminate the possibility that they are an undercover police officer.’”
      Tau Henare, serial trougher and anti Semitic idiot, is probably not your go to on dealing with gangs.
      https://teara.govt.nz/en/gangs/page-4
      
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      April 7, 2024 1:01pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Oh yeah MCos, my bad. NZ is entirely immune to Terrorism by Muslims. Never going to happen. Apologies.
      
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      April 7, 2024 2:13pm
      - GJM
        
        Mr stabby in Countdown was just your imagination…
        
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        April 8, 2024 3:51am
  - Che Guava
    
    If your figures are correct, then why are we letting thousands or millions of Muslims into our countries? Surely if the figures show a pattern, we’d keep all of them out to ensure our safety.
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:34am
  - KH
    
    Are these terrorist act stats dodgy? For example do they include drone strikes like they should?
    
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    April 7, 2024 2:21pm
- Yvette
  
  Are cops doing enough to find outlaw dad?
  
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  @tauhenare
  I’ve wondered about this for a long time. I agree with the proposition that the Police have taken a softly softly look away approach and I have done for a long time. If he was a Māori, he’d either be dead or in Prison. Just my #Opinion
  
  This post may be more about “guys wearing gang insignia” than “Tom Phillips has been able to do what he likes for two years with three kids”.
  Does Tau Henare really care about Tom Phillips’ children or are they just fodder for his opinion?
  
  https://www.parliament.nz/en/mps-and-electorates/former-members-of-parliament/henare-tau/
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:59am
- Jack5
  
  Cosie’s …. the police had been sniffing round their mosque on the lookout for extremists …
  
  Like the ISIS-inspired terrorist, Ahamed Samsudeen, who stabbed six people in Auckland’s New Lynn countdown in 2021?
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:26am
Tomtoddy

Dublin, Ireland’s highest ever monthly temperatures. (Records go back to 1867)

• January: 17.0°C (62.6°F) on 1/10/1971
• February: 18.1°C (64.6°F) on 2/23/1891
• March: 23.4°C (74.1°F) on 3/29/1965
• April: 22.9°C (73.2°F) on 4/11/1869
• May: 26.7°C (80.1°F) on 5/31/1922
• June: 28.9°C (84.0°F) on 6/6/1950
• July: 33.5°C (92.3°F) on 7/16/1876
• August: 30.6°C (87.1°F) on 8/2/1990
• September: 28.7°C (83.7°F) on 6/6/1868
• October: 24.2°C (75.6°F) on 10/3/1959
• November: 19.4°C (66.9°F) on 11/2/1927
• December: 17.2°C (62.9°F) on 12/2/1948

No sign of a trend or a catastrophe. Yet Ireland are beginning a cow slaughter plan and other crazy expenditures.
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April 7, 2024 9:03am
- JackRabbit
  
  Insanity has no bounds,
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:09am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Whilst I totally agree with the sentiment of the post Tom, in the UK, people start dying when the temperature gets to 25C!!! Having spent a decent bit of time over there, they run for aircon at that temp. It’s truly nuts. I sat at Lords for a cricket test when temp got to 30C. Several talked to me about the ‘extreme’ heat. I told them it was lovely and a great temp to be watching cricket!
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:15am
- emmess
  
  They need to move the thermometers closer to the airport.
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:31am
- Benedict Yu
  
  That is not the way that you calculate mean yearly temperatures.
  
  Ireland mean temperature was at a record high in 2023, beating the previous record set in 2022. The warming trend is clear.
  
  https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ireland-northern-ireland-weather-2023
  
  It will be apparent from my comments that I have major issues with some climate change policies. However I have no time for people who say that it is not happening.
  
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  April 7, 2024 9:31am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    “However I have no time for people who say that it is not happening”
    
    Does that include people like me and Dr Judith Curry who say there is not a climate emergency?
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:30am
  - Jack5
    
    The climate is always changing, and has always been changing, Benedict.
    
    Perhaps the issue is that climate panickers base their case on:
    
    – Two or three centuries of accurate meteorological recordings; or
    
    – A thousand or two years of historical accounts; or
    
    – A few more thousands of years of details in Arctic or Antarctic ice cores.
    
    Yet Earth is around 4.5 billion years old.
    
    We’re all guessing.
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:38am
  - Taieri
    
    I have no time for people who say that it is not happening
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    What’s happening or not happening?
    The climate “change”?
    The climate “emergency”?
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:46am
    - Cassandra
      
      Anyone who thinks the climate is not changing is daft. The question is why? And what should we do about it? Since I want the destruction of NZ I opt for reducing our cattle numbers and banning ICE. Or might I suggest adapting to it? Make a big noise and do as little as possible would be sensible.
      
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      April 7, 2024 11:09am
  - Grunter
    
    BY – have you watched The Climate Movie: The Cold Truth? What’s your thoughts and counter arguments to the facts they presented?
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:10am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Where did he say they were mean yearly temperatures, or that’s how they’re calculated?
    What do you mean by ‘it’?
    
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    April 7, 2024 1:04pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    And I have no time for people claiming climate change, which is what it will always do, in an alarmist and fear mongering way. This was exactly how Covid was used to make the herd stampede. It suits the elite and the media to fear monger. It is a great evil and should be called out more than the stupid arguments about whether the earth is in a period of warming or cooling!
    
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    April 7, 2024 1:51pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Bene: You are I presume aware of the fact that we have apparently just had the coldest March in ten years?
    
    My own position? There is clearly a change going on in the climate but there is absolutely no convincing evidence that human activity is causing it.
    
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    April 7, 2024 2:03pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      The IPCC in AR6 WG1 tells us that any change that is occurring is within the ranges of natural variability.
      It is definitely warming though, and has been since the mid 1800’s, but its gradual.
      Iirc its about 1C per century.
      
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      April 7, 2024 2:34pm
      - Chris Nisbet
        
        “It is definitely warming though”.
        Yay!
        
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        April 7, 2024 7:21pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      no convincing evidence that human activity is causing it
      
      Just one thought – we will of course be dead before it gets serious.
      
      And a question – which anyone with lawyer type background might have an answer to – what sort of evidence would you find convincing?
      
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      April 7, 2024 6:18pm
  - Tomtoddy
    
    You are correct BY that it is not the most accurate way to assess mean annual temps and I did not suggest it was. However it is quite a strange aspect of Ireland’s climate history. Temps in the northern hemisphere seem to be increasing but it is nothing unusual and absolutely not worth the crazed reaction of politicians and media with the net zero nonsense.
    
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    April 7, 2024 2:27pm
  - Graeme Hall
    
    Maybe it is time to think again? Dr Richard Lindzen in this interview questions the validity of the way mean temperatures are calculated. The present method uses mean anomalies from a 30 year temperature record. He doubts if this even makes sense. The video is an interview of him by Dr Jordan Peterson. Dr Lindzen is an Emeritus Professor and had a career as a physicist studying atmospheric composition and dynamics with around 250 published journal papers.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVSrTZDopM
    
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    April 7, 2024 2:50pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    The earth has been warming a bit since the little ice age (except for the unexplained dip from the 1940s to the 1970s). Similar temp increases have happened before. It was warmer in the middle ages, the Roman era and the Minoan era, oh and in the last interglacial around 125000 years ago (Hippos were splashing about in the Thames River England back then and there were F all humans about). And many many times before that. None of that proves anything re human produced Co2 allegedly being the control knob for the earth’s temp. There is more evidence that what we are experiencing (nothing special) is simply cyclical than there is for the crackpot watermelon-politician-driven hypothesis that human produced Co2 is the control knob for the earth’s temperature.
    
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    April 7, 2024 5:10pm
- Paulus
  
  Trevor stirring up the heat !
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:31am
Scooter

So basically no point in reporting crime, and when you do and it goes to court you get some get out of jail free card by some namby Pamby woke judge.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-abandoned-60-per-cent-of-reported-cases-in-2023/YCMSVBISFJD73OXGXJGQAGVJQM/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teen-sentenced-in-youth-court-to-pay-3k-for-rape-of-two-girls-and-indecent-assault-of-another/GTFLT2RQMRBEJKE5ZFU3DU3OFE/
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April 7, 2024 9:09am
PurplePen

Well I’ve had a wander around Reddit /New Zealand .. and came across Reddit /Te_Ao_Maori. Had a wee look. 15 followers, just about all the posts had no comments. zzzzzzz
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April 7, 2024 9:29am
- NZer In Exile
  
  You’ll come to realise reddit is full of juvenile far left people. It also appears to be run by the same types.
  
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  April 7, 2024 5:15pm
Maggie Pie

This is a worrying development 🙁

One of the girls from tennis has family and friends in Israel.
She was telling us the the majority of hostages no longer remain in Gaza.
Hamas has smuggled them out and they are now being held in Iran.
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April 7, 2024 9:32am
- kevn
  
  Maggie… I reckon many of them have been killed.
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:14am
- Che Guava
  
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  “She was telling us the the majority of hostages no longer remain in Gaza. Hamas has smuggled them out and they are now being held in Iran.”
  
  Makes you wonder if they ever existed, doesn’t it? If so, that would be one more invasion-justifying falsehood that has fallen by the wayside when it has served its purpose.
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:25am
  - Ghost
    
    What a dick, get help. An insult to the families whose loves ones have been killed by the wankers you support.
    
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    April 7, 2024 10:43am
    - Che Guava
      
      Getting emotional doesn’t help anyone, but when you’re irrational, it may be all you’ve got.
      
      My speculative thesis is consistent with the pattern to this point, which is that unevidenced claims are habitually made by Israel (and people reasonably asking for corroborating evidence, like me, are attacked) and these claims form the basis of later military activity. Weeks and months then go by, by which time nobody seriously maintains the claims anymore, but that doesn’t matter because they’ve served their short-term purpose.
      
      It seems to me that claims of Hamas’ unadulterated and unmitigated savagery would be contradicted by the idea that they have been holding Israelis hostages for the last 6 months.
      
      And when the Israelis have already destroyed Gaza, what would be the benefit in continuing to hold them? What kind of bargaining chip would they be when Gaza has already been effectively wiped out?
      
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      April 7, 2024 11:02am
      - Ghost
        
        Being a sick bastard Mod : cool it ]
        Go away [ Mod : as above ]
        
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        April 7, 2024 12:10pm
    - Swifty
      
      He completely loses it on occasion, doesn’t he?
      
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      April 7, 2024 12:10pm
      - Che Guava
        
        Make an argument if you don’t like mine. That’s the point of fora like KB, isn’t it?
        
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        April 7, 2024 3:58pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        You just repeat the same assertions Guava then crow about how you think you are Mr Cold Hard Logic. We’ve been over all this and find you tiresome and suffering from a severe fixation.
        
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        April 7, 2024 5:56pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I actually said a prayer for you this mornng Che.
    
    There’s this from someone who knows….
    
    “This is not a Gaza v Israel war, nor a Palestine v Israel war.
    This is an Iranian war against Israel through terrorist proxies”
    
    – John Bolton (Am Amb)
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:05am
    - Che Guava
      
      I’m praying for the Palestinians under the boot of the Jews, Maggie, many of whom are actually Christians like you (or so you claim) and I.
      
      As a Christian, you should repudiate the Zionist savagery, no matter how they attempt to justify it. The Zionists can only justify it because they reject Christianity and worship themselves, so they aren’t like you and me.
      
      John “I’ve never met a war for Israel I didn’t like” Bolton? This guy is a cold-hearted war monger, so I can’t imagine why I’d care what he says.
      
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      April 7, 2024 11:11am
      - mogg
        
        You are the true definition of narrow minded bigotry.
        
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        April 7, 2024 12:24pm
      - Che Guava
        
        I’m the one praying for Palestinians rather than supporting their destruction, but I’m supposed to be the narrow-minded bigot?
        
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        April 7, 2024 4:00pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Maybe pray the “palestinians” wise up and start seeing Israelis as fellow human beings who are willing to negotiate win/win solutions. Obviously this is going to be small incremental steps as trust has to be built up slowly.
        
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        April 7, 2024 6:42pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      That proxy line is a gross oversimplification for PR purposes only. What does “proxy” mean? Is it ever used in any other context? Are the Kurds American proxies? Are the Australians?
      The Iranians do not have supernatural powers, they form alliances and make deals for mutual benefit like everyone else.
      
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      April 8, 2024 2:46am
  - Cassandra
    
    Che: you really are in trouble – I suggest you seek and take advice, back off before someone finds out who you really are. Mind you, if the hostages really are in Iran they might be getting food and medical help. But I think not, the only was is by sea and the IDF has the coast controlled.
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:05am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “back off before someone finds out who you really are..”
      
      That’s a personal threat. It has no place here or anywhere else.
      Discuss the issue and leave it at that.
      Moderator should make a note of your post.
      
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      April 7, 2024 11:48am
      - Che Guava
        
        Indeed. Imagine having to threaten people who disagree with you. How good is your argument when this is the response?
        
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        April 7, 2024 4:13pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        That’s a personal threat.
        
        What rubbish.
        
        It is just a piece of advice…and if you read the sentence in it’s entirety, it is a suggestion.
        
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        April 7, 2024 7:52pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        M.W
        Its not rubbish.
        I wouldn’t want that posted to anyone here.
        Here is the sentence in its entirety :
        
        “Che: you really are in trouble – I suggest you seek and take advice, back off before someone finds out who you really are.”
        
        Sounds great!
        Good times!
        
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        April 7, 2024 8:17pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      No. The southern land border with Eygpt us porous and the Eygptian Army stationed there are easily bribed….
      
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      April 7, 2024 12:53pm
  - AitchW
    
    I suppose the Holocaust was a Jewish fable too?
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:21am
    - Che Guava
      
      I don’t know if I’d call it a fable, but I think we can all observe and agree that it is a jealously-guarded narrative. For instance, I can’t think of any other historical event that is illegal to question, even in terms of details, in some jurisdictions.
      
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      April 7, 2024 4:28pm
      - julesnzuk
        
        Bloody hell – is “jealously guarded narrative” your turn of phrase for documented historical facts? You have actual holocaust envy, don’t you? Pathetic.
        
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        April 8, 2024 5:58am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Guava may now be beating Milky as the new downtick champion.
    
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    April 7, 2024 5:16pm
Ghost

As we head into this years election it is important to understand what each candidate, before they are replaced are saying

Learn to speak Bidenese like a professional
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April 7, 2024 9:52am
- Nukuleka
  
  Hadn’t noticed ‘we’ were heading into any election this year, Ghostie. We’re not a state of the US just yet.
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:34am
Jack5

C’mon, Minister Mitch …

Gangs amok at Rugby match in Hastings. Team van shot up.

We’re four months into the Coalition regime.

How are you going to ban gang patches when the gangs are still using guns?

Perhaps we should even encourage gang patches so we can be easily aware of who’s in a gang.

Can we be safe from gangs without, for NZ, a parallel, quasi-military police force like France’s Gendarmerie nationale, or Italy’s Carabinieri?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hawkes-bay-visiting-ymp-rugby-teams-bus-peppered-with-shotgun-rounds-as-they-fled-a-game-abandoned-by-referee-due-to-safety-concerns/ZG6PN6KFGRHSDJRUCM4LOCXOMI/
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April 7, 2024 9:53am
- AitchW
  
  The musket wars continue. But in all seriousness even if the offenders are put before the judge and they are found guilty the sentence will be pathetic. That firearms grab really worked wonders…
  Yet another consequence of the 6 long years of incompetence.
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:24am
Maggie Pie

I reckon that Judge Lance sounds like a bit of a push-over…..

https://stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350236646/woman-acted-excessive-self-defence-when-she-stabbed-man-she-was-having-affair

My partner’s ex was Russian. I still see her out & about every now n’ then.

Just saying.
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April 7, 2024 10:02am
- sirknz
  
  The bit that I found strange was the fact that she was cheating on her husband and got a discount on her sentence in part for “good character”…
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:01am
Maggy Wassilieff

Is the Young Māori Party Rugby Club affiliated to the Māori Party?

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/sport/hawke-s-bay-rugby-game-between-ymp-and-tamatea-abandoned-by-referee-due-to-safety-concerns/
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April 7, 2024 10:05am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Does a ducks arse pucker in a power dive 😀 😀 😀
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:34am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Only when they have lead poisoning
    
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    April 7, 2024 11:57am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Getting ready for the 4th G?
      My partner headed off down the Waikato yesterday with a new beer-fridge for the maimai. He txt earlier to say theres birds everywhere. Looks like it’ll be a great opening day – weather permitting.
      
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      April 7, 2024 12:34pm
      - pdm
        
        Maggie will the tennis girls be duck plucking until all of the plucking ducks are plucked?
        
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        April 7, 2024 1:43pm
      - JohnRidd
        
        Good breeding season for ducks in the Waikato. There are hundreds on our Ponds this year.
        
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        April 7, 2024 2:22pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        pdm, that’s pheasant plucking.
        I’m not the pheasant plucker, I’m the pheasant plucker’s son. I’m only plucking pheasants ’til the pheasant plucker comes.
        
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        April 7, 2024 2:52pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Alcohol and firearms don’t go well together.
        
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        April 7, 2024 5:22pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Hamiton Lake will fill up soon. They know.
    I have heard that people drive slowly through the road around the lake and grab a few.
    No idea who they were.
    
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    April 7, 2024 2:57pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  YMP rugby has been around for a lot longer than TMP Maggy.. I assume the Hawkes Bay club was inspired by the same politics that spawned YMP Gizzie formed 1910. Hawkes Bay club was formed 1956…
  
  Gizzie backstory for YMP
  https://www.sporty.co.nz/ympgisborne/About-Us/History-1
  
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  April 7, 2024 1:00pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Cheers for that…
    
    I had once enquired from a young chap who trained with YMP what the initials stood for, but he didn’t know.
    
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    April 7, 2024 3:32pm
G152

Time for the procrastination to stop.
Shut Gloriavale and all other cults down now. Prosecute the leaders for slavery and sex crimes aiding and abetting.
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April 7, 2024 10:14am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Does that include the Green party?
  
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  April 7, 2024 12:37pm
bennerg

Helen Clark still at it:

https://twitter.com/MurfittTauranga/status/1776385913305936283

Three years after the pandemic, the WEF presenter asks Helen Clark how do “we” keep the focus on Covid. Helen responds that “we” will keep Covid in the headlines and at the forefront of leaders’ attention in a way that it may not have three years into a pandemic. In July 2020, Helen was appointed as the co-chair of the Independent Panel for Pandemic Preparedness and Response
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April 7, 2024 10:14am
- Don Beckett
  
  Clark is just another globalist marxist, seeking to keep her snout in the trough by falsely maintaining a level of fear, which the gullible will swallow.
  Not this Kiwi.
  
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  April 7, 2024 10:38am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The presenter should have said who is we
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:58am
bennerg

Laugh of the day. A Trump supporter had a sign on his lawn, that an individual with TDS did not like.

Watch what happens.

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1776364635974726030
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April 7, 2024 10:30am
- AitchW
  
  Another lefty champion of freedom of expression////
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:35am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74rJSsSCfI
Digital ID | Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain.
Get ready for the Albanese Government to begin the hard sell of their new government-controlled digital ID system.
Prepare for another round of “safe, voluntary, and effective” as they attempt to harvest your biometric information for their databases.
And if you, like many sensible Aussies, want nothing to do with this Digital ID disaster, then brace yourself. This “voluntary” system will turn out to be anything but. Give it time, and you will see.
So, support the series now before Albanese starts using his Digital ID system to track your online purchase history and lower your social credit score!
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April 7, 2024 10:37am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZabYctFN58
Feds Admit Ashley Biden’s Diary Is Real.
Of course the DOJ wants to punish the people who exposed the diary and not the crimes in it. Brandon is more than a tad creepy. Lots of weird stuff.
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April 7, 2024 10:37am
Maggie Pie

“Was it them again Yogi?”

Here’s 75 asylum-seekers in the UK, that have all been convicted of the most heinous crimes, including paedophilia, rape, stabbings, and murder….

https://mol.im/a/13276809

Do you see the pattern of recognition forming in this report?
Thank God that Ardern and her socialist ilk were tossed out here.
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April 7, 2024 11:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who is the loser who downticked that?
  What a tosser.
  
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  April 7, 2024 11:29am
- mandk
  
  Not a lot of Christians and Jews in that roll of dishonour.
  
  In fact, how many of them are not Moslems?
  
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  April 7, 2024 1:12pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Gotta love that classy paper the Daily Mail. Another headline from the same page:
  “All the embarrasing health problems that can go wrong with your bottom – and what to do about them.”😂
  
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  April 7, 2024 5:25pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    My fave was the story about Rebel Wilson, talking about the time Sasha Baron Cohen asked Rebs to put her finger up his bum.
    LOL!!
    
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    April 7, 2024 6:36pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Hard to know what to say about that one!
      
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      April 7, 2024 6:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

TOW Comic for kids Part 39.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-39/
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April 7, 2024 11:41am
Maggie Pie

And while I’m on a roll, here’s something else to ponder on…..

Imagine if HAMAS had showed up at ‘Aucklands Gay Pride Festival’.
Do you think Chloe and the rest of those keyiffah wearing plonkers in the Green Party would be out there screeching “From the river to the sea……!”

https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A/status/1776218610282713513
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April 7, 2024 11:43am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Donald J. Trump International Airport?

Watch Democrat heads explode!

https://pjnewsletter.com/gop-moves-to-honor-trump/?
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April 7, 2024 11:57am
- Don Beckett
  
  What a total hoot that would be 😆
  
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  April 7, 2024 12:05pm
- MCōs
  
  Two can play at that kind of silliness https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats-trump-bill-rename-miami-prison/
  
  If Mr Trump does go to prison he’ll probably insist on being incarcerated in his own lock up
  
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  April 7, 2024 1:55pm
- Ghost
  
  Bizarre that republicans would want to change the name of an airport that was dedicated to a former republican.
  
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  April 7, 2024 2:14pm
  - MCōs
    
    John Foster Dulles
    Probably a bloody rhino
    
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    April 7, 2024 8:18pm
Ghost

Hmmm, maybe crime does pay

Police abandoned 572,037 of the cases reported to them last year – that’s almost 60%.
In total, it received 962,521 emergency calls and reports in 2023, up 50% from 2019.

The numbers were supplied to RNZ through the Official Information Act.

Of the cases reported to police last year, 179,957 were closed without any investigation at all.

Article

Nope, labour weren’t soft on crime. They were nonexistent
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April 7, 2024 2:08pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Odds are definitely in the Crims favour…..
  
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  April 7, 2024 3:33pm
Chuck Bird

CITIZEN SCIENCE: Govt continues to be captured by trans ideology

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/citizen-science-govt-continues-to-be-captured-by-trans-ideology?postId=53c0ed8d-84cd-4b5b-8f50-d0e6d7bcdc4c&utm_campaign=1342d77f-cd58-4044-ac17-b688f05def76&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=67893f30-c741-4b46-b491-96f2f35e0cc5&cid=5ad2ad14-ab55-4e15-92b1-7b9538cabd9b
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April 7, 2024 2:49pm
- All_on_Red
  
  If I may give you a tip, you can delete the parts of the link past the question mark.
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/citizen-science-govt-continues-to-be-captured-by-trans-ideology?
  
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  April 7, 2024 3:00pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thanks
    
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    April 7, 2024 3:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Correct. I think the shit is for tracking times viewed.
    Someone on this blog may know more.
    
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    April 7, 2024 3:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Denial is now a River in the Delaware basement of Dr Jill Biden.
Both Jill and Joe are deranged.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/jill-biden-snaps-when-told-trump-is-beating-joe-in-swing-states-no-hes-not/?
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April 7, 2024 3:03pm
Maggie Pie

WELL,WELL,WELL…

What an absolute hypocrite Don Lemon turned out to be 🙁

He just got married to a Pakeha guy!!

https://twitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1776799676295196772
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April 7, 2024 3:13pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  According to lefties he would have a creepy race fetish (or is that only when hetero white men prefer women of races other than their own?).
  
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  April 7, 2024 6:02pm
- julesnzuk
  
  The bloke is a sexist tool who described Nikki Haley as “past her prime”. In the context of her being a presidential candidate. She was early 50s.
  
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  April 8, 2024 6:03am
Individual Responsibility

Replying to bennerg 10:14 today – note too, the presence of bourla and blair in that lineup on stage with clark; all good, honest brokers, eh! None worthy of capitalising the first letter.
I recently finished Tom Bower’s unauthorised biography of Blair, who deserves the same description as someone on KB recently used to describe hipkins – “unscrupulous, and bitter”.
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April 7, 2024 3:22pm
Maggie Pie

The fix is in!!

https://trib.al/aEO3FWe
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April 7, 2024 3:48pm
All_on_Red

Steve’s Donation made the difference

‘Former President Trump’s campaign raked in $50.5 million at an exclusive fundraiser dinner with billionaires in Florida on Saturday.
The haul more than doubles the record $25 million raised at President Biden’s star-studded event at Radio City Music Hall last month and fattens the GOP’s coffers just months away from the November election.’
https://nypost.com/2024/04/06/us-news/trump-rakes-in-record-setting-50-5-million-at-florida-campaign-fundraiser-shattering-bidens-nyc-haul/
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April 7, 2024 3:57pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERINENT QUESTION

Why is it that when I google ‘Jamie Perfect’ ….I get Jamie Oliver?

Very odd.
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April 7, 2024 4:18pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Internet search is now pretty much fckd. All gamed and sponsored.
  
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  April 7, 2024 5:31pm
waikatosinger

The very important case of Tickle v Giggle goes to court in Australia this week. Apart from contributing an amazing name to the history of jurisprudence, this case will set an extremely significant legal precedent with regard to the definition of a woman in the UN convention on the rights of women. Should the wrong side prevail in this case that convention may be rendered toothless, even in New Zealand. Good Luck to Sall Grover, the CEO of Giggle.
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April 7, 2024 4:49pm
John Loveridge

Is it appropriate for the Mayor of Wellington to be making speeches at pro-Palestinian rallies?
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April 7, 2024 4:51pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Absolutely! The silly bint has even made submissions for all the Mosques in Wello to be allowed to broadcast their “Call-To-Prayer” 5 times a day 🙁
  
  She obviouly has nooo idea whats happened to the UK!!
  
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  April 7, 2024 5:08pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I’m thinking put to a referendum that would go down like a lead balloon.
    
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    April 7, 2024 5:33pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Mind you, you’d have to wonder about the mentality of those in the Capital who voted for a Mayor with a name like….. ‘Tory Whanau’
      
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      April 7, 2024 6:29pm
      - MCōs
        
        Or Len’s granddad
        
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        April 7, 2024 8:30pm
  - peterwn
    
    Why cannot the faithful install an app on their phones?
    
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    April 7, 2024 6:04pm
Jethrod

How about Labia-or Whanau
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April 7, 2024 6:44pm
Maggie Pie

Tried to contact our friends in St Stevens Ave earlier to see what they knew of the huge fire that just destroyed the ‘City Backpackers Lodge’ in Parnell.
Unfortunately it goes to message saying they’re in Melbourne for the weekend and wont be back till Tuesady. I’m sure like most residents in the area, they’ll be very upset to hear whats happend when they get home 🙁

Just saying.
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