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artemisia

Couple of Wanaka supermarkets breaking rules by Easter trading. Good on them.
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March 31, 2024 8:09am
- CJames
  
  Aren’t they supplying the need for all the people attending Warbirds?
  
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  March 31, 2024 8:14am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Yes
    
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    March 31, 2024 8:20am
  - peterwn
    
    Precisely. There are 20,000+ extra mouths to feed in Wanaka and the food has to come from somewhere. Three Peaks New World showed on its web site they were opening Friday and Sunday and the other New World (near CBD) would also be opening these days. Seems the authorities have not bothered to prosecute because of public backlash and the relatively small fines available. I suspect MBIE would like to see fines vastly increased but Governments have not been prepared to do this.
    
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    March 31, 2024 8:23am
    - Che Guava
      
      You’d think people could manage the fact that a supermarket won’t be trading for a couple of days, and not even consecutive days. Many at Warbirds will be the types who go on about “self-reliance” and the need for a “pull yourself up by the boot straps” attitude, and rightly so. But all of that evaporates when they can’t handle a supermarket being closed.
      
      It’s not like we don’t have Easter every year, so there’s really no excuse to not know about it – perhaps plan ahead? I did. And another commenter has mentioned that food and drink is available at the event. Serious questions must be asked about people’s ability to cope with mild inconvenience.
      
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      March 31, 2024 9:53am
      - Prince
        
        Sure, you can cart food and groceries from all parts of NZ to Wanaka for a few days.
        Or you can go without that hassle and shop locally, when and how you want.
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:29am
      - wilderbeast
        
        Some sweeping generalisations there CG. I’m in Wanaka and haven’t heard the issue of supermarkets even come up. People just enjoying the air show and perfect weather. Whatever stereotypes you might like to confer it is a huge influx of people to a small town, so what benefit would there be in having them closed????
        
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        March 31, 2024 2:21pm
      - leoj
        
        Thus, underlining your belief in more government control.
        
        After the debacle of the Labour govt and its wanting to over-control us during the over-hyped pandemic, we have wised up to YOUR govt controls.
        
        Private enterprise rules.
        
        Those that wish to observe a Christian history still can AND get their food at the same time. What a concept!
        
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        March 31, 2024 7:09pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There will be food and drinks available at the Warbirds show, but you can’t buy food in town. Stupidity at it’s best.
    
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    March 31, 2024 8:46am
    - Che Guava
      
      If there’s food and drinks at the show, then why do you need a supermarket as well?
      
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      March 31, 2024 9:59am
      - rouppe
        
        Because they be selling hot dogs and chips, not milk and roast chicken.
        
        By the way, when’s the last time you took a weeks worth of groceries with you on the plane?
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:37am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        To buy your own food before the show instead of paying inflated prices. Simple really.
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:43am
      - Che Guava
        
        “By the way, when’s the last time you took a weeks worth of groceries with you on the plane?”
        
        Why does closing a supermarket on a Sunday necessitate taking a weeks worth of groceries on a plane? I don’t understand the connection.
        
        I think the solution is shopping on the Thursday and the Saturday, to accommodate closures on Friday and Sunday.
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:52am
      - leoj
        
        What you need is not the same as what I need.
        
        It’s called freedom of choice, something that is totally foreign to leftists.
        
        What gives you the right to tell me what I need?
        
        Get lost.
        
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        March 31, 2024 7:12pm
  - gravedodger
    
    Also not all the influx will be attending Warbirds at Wanaka Airport.
    I know should I have gone this year there is no way Swmbo would have accompanied me to he sshow but her needs would be still relevant.
    
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    March 31, 2024 2:04pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I read the report. It seems insane that with thousands of people there for a major event they would not have access to a place to buy food and provisions. I liked the inspector from MBIE saying that “he was very disappointed” 🤡😅. The maximum fine for breaching the law is $1000. That is hardly going to deter a supermarket in a place like Wanaka packed with Easter visitors. 😂
  
  EDIT That was intended as a reply to CJames
  
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  March 31, 2024 8:19am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Wānaka is absolutely heaving with local and foreign visitors, most having travelled here by car or air with no ability to bring their groceries even if that was a sensible option. Good on New World for remaining open, supplying product to those visitors who need it, creating more paid work hours for some, even if others would rather sleep in, and saving fossil fuel by not requiring people to travel to Queenstown to top up in their legally open shops. A ridiculous situation in the 2020’s that needs to be dealt with before next Easter.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:23am
  - Paulus
    
    Should have been dealt with years ago where every store makes its own decisions.
    
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    March 31, 2024 9:55am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The o ly option is drive over the crown ra ge to Queenstown, it’s a cool drive, about 40 mins, then you can freely have lunch or a beer with no restrictions before returning
    
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    March 31, 2024 2:26pm
- thirteenstars
  
  But supermarkets do open on Easter Sunday, at least in the several places I’ve been in recent years. They just don’t sell beer and wine, which is the real crime.
  
  If the Queenstown stores have been closed previously that sounds strange for such a tourist destination. I doubt they’ll be selling beer and wine as that is probably penalised by suspension of their alcohol licence.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:03am
  - Ghost
    
    Queenstown is exempt, Wānaka isn’t. I believe under lockdown Ardern declared supermarkets were essential businesses, so they should throw that back at the officials and state they are essential shops as declared by Ardern and allowed to open
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:09am
    - thirteenstars
      
      So the exemption is that Queenstown is allowed to sell beer and wine on Easter Sunday?
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:23am
      - Ghost
        
        There are no restrictions in Queenstown
        
        https://www.employment.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/tools-and-resources/documents/b2d747be86/Employment-NZ-Valid-exemptions-granted.pdf
        
        https://www.employment.govt.nz/leave-and-holidays/public-holidays/restricted-shop-trading-days/local-council-easter-sunday-shop-trading-policies/
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:37am
      - CJames
        
        Taupo is another town with the exemptions. Policy dates back to the 70s and always vocal opposition when people want it changed.
        
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        March 31, 2024 11:53am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        They are fully open as any other day in the year, and walk into the Pig and Whistle and they don’t say you have to eat to drink that beer
        
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        March 31, 2024 2:31pm
    - G152
      
      Find the socalled inspectors and banish them from all their local supermarkets.
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:46am
      - Paulus
        
        And take away their Overtime rates !
        
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        March 31, 2024 1:42pm
      - I remember when
        
        So, we have people working on Good Friday and Easter Sunday so that they can catch people working on Good Friday and Easter Sunday.
        
        How does that seem right?
        
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        March 31, 2024 4:25pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Can you get an exemption if you attend Church first?
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:46am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Only some 30+% profess to be Christians in N(2018 census), take away the kids probably 25% of adult population rule over the rest of us peasants.
      
      Sort of like bending under the thumb of us 17% 🙂
      
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      March 31, 2024 9:57pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Queenstown has had a total exemption for trade at Easter as long as I remember, apparently Taupo does as well but Rotarua or the Mount don’t
    
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    March 31, 2024 2:29pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  There argument is Queenstown are allowed to be open, Wanaka is a similar holiday destination to Queenstown, and Wanaka with the war birds will be pumping. Why should people go over the crown range and shop freely when the businesses in Wanaka are forced to shut and lose market share on a high profile weekend?
  
  I thought National changed the law to let councils decide what to do with the opening hours at Easter, I am sure the wanna district is controlled by the same council as Queenstown
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:37pm
  - Ghost
    
    Councils can decide.
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:40pm
  - peterwn
    
    That is probably the problem – Queenstown wolld have a majority on Council and uses it to lock Wanaka out.
    
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    March 31, 2024 1:28pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You don’t know that, but possibly correct, it seems silly to not let war bird weekend thrive, it’s every second year, and this is the first time after Ardern finding a way to can it for three years
      
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      March 31, 2024 2:33pm
Chuck Bird

I’m with Nigal

Nigel Farage SLAMS ‘growing prejudice’ against Israel and its people in British public services

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxqZ04MK3tk
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March 31, 2024 8:10am
- G152
  
  How about the protesters all get together and go to Gaza where the gays for gaza can do their one base jump and the rest can actually find out what years of hatred, self defence and missile attacks have achieved……..
  
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  March 31, 2024 8:23am
  - Paulus
    
    Didn’t Hamas attack Israel or am I deluded as only the media know what happened ?
    Why are Hamas still firing rockets into Israel and will not return the hostages, if they are still alive.
    Why have the Lebanese joined in in attacking from North Israel, supplied by Iran – supplied by Russia – supplied by North Korea.
    Ask some people in South West Sydney who now call themselves Lebanese Hamas Australia.
    Police are watching very carefully once more as these boys have a history of violence remember.
    Many derived from Tampa.
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:01am
    - Che Guava
      
      “Didn’t Hamas attack Israel or am I deluded as only the media know what happened ?”
      
      The case for Israel’s actions in Gaza is so weak that it seems to depend on pretending that there hadn’t already been a century of reciprocal Jewish/Arab conflict before October 7th.
      
      So yeah, Hamas did attack Israel, but the part that gets omitted as an inconvenience is that this was just the latest in a series of retaliations between the parties since at least 1948.
      
      Israel and its supporters will have the world believe that they are the innocent victims of an unprovoked attack, but this is categorically false. It’s not even arguable that this is the context.
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:37am
      - Lance
        
        Because mass rape and murder is such a weak reason to retaliate.
        Dem Joos asked for it aye Che?
        I mean, raping women to death and calling the victims parents while it was happening is so applaudable to you lefties?, it’s the hip thing to do these days.
        And it was so good that the Gazans celebrated en-mass.
        Yea, I mean Israel should have just sucked it up and blamed themselves.
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        March 31, 2024 11:58am
      - Nobby2
        
        hamas should have known that when they attacked Israel that there would be an aggresive response from them. What hamas got was a reaction from Israel that showed how pissed off with hamas Israel is and gave them a bloody nose and have continued their attack to ensure hamas won’t trouble them again. In 1948 a number of arab countries attacked Israel and Israel won, which has pissed off all arab countries since. Israel has the authority to protect there citizens and territory and that is what they are doing.
        
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        March 31, 2024 12:58pm
      - leoj
        
        Based on your flawed thinking, we should still be fighting World War II.
        
        There was peace on Oct 6th.
        
        Hamas and only Hamas broke that peace.
        
        Israel needs to keep going until Hamas is wiped out. You don’t extinguish half a fire.
        
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        March 31, 2024 7:16pm
  - Che Guava
    
    “… years of hatred, self defence and missile attacks…”
    
    These worn out Zionist talking points have been repeated so many times and with such regularity that they can no longer displace the reality on the ground, that anyone can see for themselves in the internet age.
    
    Talking about hatred, defending yourself and missile attacks is (darkly) comical when you take into account what Israel is doing in Gaza right now and for the last 4 or 5 months.
    
    There was a time when it was possible to just talk a desired reality into existence, but that time is over.
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:11am
- imalwaysright
  
  Its not prejudice if they are being judged by past actions or opinions.
  A more accurate term would be judgement .
  
  “Nigel Farage SLAMS ‘growing judgement ’ against Israel and its people in British public services”
  
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  March 31, 2024 8:35am
  - Che Guava
    
    Spot on. Gee, I wonder why people increasingly have a negative attitude towards Israel? Maye it’s because people have eyes and ears and they make judgments accordingly. Except on this blog, Israel’s reputation around the world is in the toilet right now, and it’s because of their behaviour, not “the world’s oldest hatred, we know not why.”
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:04am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      “Except on this blog”
      
      AND
      
      Sky News Australia
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:19am
      - Che Guava
        
        Oh, so now I understand why I don’t watch Sky News Australia anymore. I used to, before I got hip to reality.
        
        Like many of the so-called “conservative” alternatives in Western media, they tend to carry a lot of water for Israel and push the Zionist line, which is odd given that, in the case of Sky News Australia, they aren’t Israelis.
        
        In many ways, the “conservatism” is secondary and an adjunct to the Zionism.
        
        Farage knows full well where he is obligated to stand as well. Who cares about anti-Israel sentiment in the UK. Isn’t the concern odd?
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:24am
      - jkt
        
        Dear Che:
        Sky news here.
        We regret to hear that we have lost your custom.
        We will Jack-Up our opinions just for you.
        
        Happy Easter.🐣
        
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        March 31, 2024 12:51pm
    - Prince
      
      You shouldn’t assume NZ News Media is indicative of opinion ‘around the world’.
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:32am
      - Che Guava
        
        I don’t assume that. I don’t consume NZ News Media. I conclude that the world is against Israel when I look at the numbers voting for ceasefire at the UN, or more recently, many countries beginning to withdraw their military aid to Israel. Even “Zion Don” has come out recently and said that Israel needs to end it.
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:57am
      - Paulus
        
        Would you now believe anything the NZ News Media have to say ?
        
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        March 31, 2024 1:45pm
      - leoj
        
        @Che:
        
        The UN? You mean the hard leftist UN? You mean the hard leftist, run by dictators UN?
        
        Don’t make laugh any louder. It hurts too much.
        
        I have said in the past, the UN needs to move to Brussels and their building can become another great Trump hotel.
        
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        March 31, 2024 7:20pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  He should probably read up some history of the British Foreign Office because they were long known to have objections to the Jews in the Middle East.
  
  It wasn’t the sort of Jew-hate that we saw from some of the Right or Christians or nowadays the Left, but a strange mix of the usual English class snobbery that applied to anybody not a Protestant Englishman, not part of “The Club”, plus the problems the Jews were causing for the Foreign Office’s great plans and strategies with the Middle East, dating back to the 1900’s when oil and the Royal Navy were starting to develop an important connection.
  
  Suffice to say that the FO pulled Sir Humphrey tricks – behind-the-scenes machinations – to stifle the Zionists and then the state of Israel.
  
  Different motives nowadays of course but the history is there.
  
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  March 31, 2024 11:41am
  - Jack5
    
    But, Tom, what about the Balfour Declaration in 1917 that declared British support for a Jewish “homeland” in Palestine?
    
    This was when the British held the reins after driving out the Ottoman Turks.
    
    You can also understand the rise of oil politics in the background. The British Navy, then still the biggest, was coal powered, and its big ships were at a disadvantage against German battleships. The British ships, which had to fight over wider ranges, had to carry more coal, and this affected design compared with the German ships.
    
    Then along came oil, and Saudi Arabia had most o f it. No wonder some bureaucrats had second thoughts about a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
    
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    March 31, 2024 1:45pm
Chuck Bird

Premium

Simple solution to Kiwi students’ bad behaviour problem – Heather du Plessis-Allan

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/simple-solution-to-kiwi-students-bad-behaviour-problem-heather-du-plessis-allan/KW5OISCJB5AYZJ6K3OM42VY4CI/
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March 31, 2024 8:38am
- wsk12345
  
  Care to share her “solution” in brief?
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:30am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    So the solution is simple too, bring in consequences. Set a standard of acceptable behaviour. Back the teachers to enforce it. Stop riding the teachers’ arses when they try to do it. Ride the kids’ arses for misbehaving.
    
    That way, our kids will learn maths not bad behaviour.
    
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    March 31, 2024 9:51am
    - kowtow
      
      Bring back the “family”.
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:17am
      - Paulus
        
        Can’t bring back the family Helen Clark, Margaret Wilson and Judith Tizard went out of their way to destroy it and they did.
        The expression “Girls can do Anything” was the opening catalyst, and we are now seeing it continue to develop.
        Not a nice place and will only continue to get worse, as is happening continually, like Rust.
        Am sorry for future generations, but they will not see until it is upon them, with no recourse.
        
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        March 31, 2024 1:50pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      That’s all fine, but this self entitled bullshit polluting the country leases right back to Helen Clark, anti smacking, do no discipline.
      Remembering if course, the first generation of anti smoking are becoming grand parents, what hope do you think younger people have when their parents are self entitled assholes
      
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      March 31, 2024 12:42pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Does acceptable behaviour include calling your classmates tubby?
      
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      March 31, 2024 1:23pm
      - Taieri
        
        If they are tubby, yes.
        Is that what they called you?
        
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        March 31, 2024 3:03pm
      - Pope Punctilious II
        
        Absolutely not, Puffinus griseus. It shows just how much we need hate speech legislation in this country. Words are weapons, dontcha know?
        
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        March 31, 2024 9:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Brian Tamai is going to have some fun. I am not a man of faith and don’t give a shit about Destiny Church, but this will be interesting. Brian Tamaki is a man who means business as do his followers.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/destiny-church-s-brian-tamaki-faces-legal-action-from-drag-queens/ar-BB1kMqay
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March 31, 2024 8:43am
- Mummy
  
  Defamation is one of the hardest things to prove in a court of law. I hope these queens have deeper pockets than Brian Tamaki.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:37am
- House
  
  The only reason these guys dressed as women are reading children stories at public spaces is to promote drag.
  This has nothing to do with children learning from the story.
  This is all about the story teller and trying to normalise the story teller’s sexual lifestyle, or kink as it could be called.
  In short, this is a recruitment drive.
  That being said, freedom of speech is vital so these guys should be able to do this.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:39am
  - kowtow
    
    I suspect much of this is actually coming from activists within the libararies/council .
    The Drag people are being invited and paid to do this.
    As per Plunkett’s interview ( see the Platform) with one of them $1200 . That I suppose would be rate payer money .
    
    “South Taranaki District Council’s Libraries and Cultural Services Manager Cath Sheard, pictured with Christina D’mour said Rainbow storytimes help children, and adults, realize it is the rich diversity of our world which makes it such a wonderful place.”
    
    https://www.librariesaotearoa.org.nz/korero-blog/australian-and-new-zealand-libraries-support-equity-diversity-and-inclusion
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:34am
    - J-Dogg
      
      Why don’t they just give the kids books to learn about diversity. But where would you find books?
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:51am
      - Che Guava
        
        The books aren’t really the point, it’s the drag queens reading them. They can’t just place a couple of drag queens in a room with a group of kids with no justifying pretext – that’d be bizarre. Give them a book, and it all becomes perfectly normal.
        
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        March 31, 2024 12:02pm
- Che Guava
  
  Only the Church, if it sticks with its principles, can counter drag queens and all of the other associated perversions of our age. That’s why the Church is hated, because it’s a bulwark for, literally, the anti-Christ as manifested in these sorts of phenomena.
  
  Adherents to the amoral and deeply mistaken “do what you feel like, man, as long as you aren’t hurting anybody else” attitude that has been foisted on a once orderly society are powerless to do anything, because to resist would be to contradict the above principle, which was a necessary condition for bringing in a decadent and increasingly dysfunctional society .
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:20am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Agreed Che, but at the preset time our pontiff isn’t doing much to promote the Truth. But he, like all else will pass, and we may return to moral principles, because if we don’t the future looks pretty glum – not only from a religious point of view.
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:11pm
  - Colinxy
    
    Marxists have theirs claws stuck into numerous churches. They seem adamant about them being the correct principles too. So, claiming sticking to principles requires more than what you wrote to be any bulwark.
    
    I was thinking of quoting the Marxist Paulo Friere on Easter since it seems appropriate. Batshit crazy, but interesting to see how supposed secular education and religion mix. (The Politics of Education).
    
    And he and the current pope are acolytes of the Marxist priest Dom Helder Camara (along with Klaus Schwab of the WEF). Wouldn’t the current pope be the symbol of the church keeping to its principles by definition?
    
    No, in this fight, religion offers no succour. I’m also not claiming atheism has any defence either – one only has to witness what the Neo-Marxists did a handful of years ago to them to know how worthless atheism can be.
    
    We must understand the Marxian religion and its tricks first and foremost. Then we can devise principles that may keep Marxism at bay.
    
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    March 31, 2024 8:34pm
Scott

I’ve just enjoyed my first cup of coffee in 40 days following Lent. Very nice is was too.
Happy Easter Sunday everybody! 😊✝️
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March 31, 2024 8:46am
- Lenticular
  
  Thanks, you too. He is Risen!
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:58am
- Don Beckett
  
  Good on you Scott. In my younger day I would give up beer – believe me, as a hard working building and roofing contractor in Oz, that was a huge sacrifice, and likewise when I returned to NZ.
  But now, in my dotage at just 82 years old, I do give up beer, with the proviso that if it’s hot and I have been working and I really really need a beer, I’m allowed to have one. 😆
  Christ is risen indeed ! God bless everyone – even those who don’t believe.
  
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  March 31, 2024 11:05am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Top it off with a big fat chocky Easter egg now, then you can have an afternoon nap 😴
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:47pm
pdm

On Sunday mornings mrsspdm and I allow ourselves the small indulgence of playing some old time music favourites from You Tube. It could be anyone chosen at random from Connie Francis to Gene Pitney to a mix of songs from the 50’s and 60’s.

This morning the first group chosen was the Howard Morrison Quartet and their original version of Mori The Hori.

Have a listen to this version and tell me the name of any Radio Station bold enough to play it today.
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March 31, 2024 8:49am
- Cassandra
  
  Have a day off: enjoy Oscar Petersen’s Easter Suite. You’ll have a lovely start to the day.
  
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  March 31, 2024 8:57am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  As soon as I read Mori the Hori, I though of the Moa named Grace.
  Funny AF. I doubt a radio station would play it now, it might offend.
  We seem to have forgotten how to laugh at ourselves.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:23am
- Biscuit
  
  pdm,
  
  I remember that Quartet doing their version of ‘My Old Man’s A Dustman’ called ‘My Old Man’s An All Black.’
  
  With the delicious line ‘There’s no horis in that scrum’, presumably referring to one of the Maoris-uninvited tours of South Africa.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:24am
  - pdm
    
    1960 tour to SA I think Biscuit.
    
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    March 31, 2024 9:59am
    - pdm
      
      Captain of that team was Wilson Whineray and Team Manager Tom Pearce.
      
      Pearce responded to after match speeches in Afrikaans with his version of I’ve Been Everywhere Man.
      
      Taumarunui, Waipukurau, Takapau, Whangarei, Tekapo etc etc – I am sure you get the drift.
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:07am
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Noel Holmes’ book, “Trek Out of Trouble” mentions the speech at Potchefstroom after the All Blacks had played Northern Universities.
        “His speech had been nothing more than a string of Maori place-names selected as a result of a mental journey up the North Island’s Main Trunk railway.” So Takapau, Tekapo and Whangarei would not have been mentioned.
        Interestingly Holmes comments on the Bantu housing near Sharpeville.
        “I have seen more squalid Maori settlements in N.Z.’s back country.”
        
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        March 31, 2024 10:40am
- Prince
  
  Gene Pitney. The true GOAT.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:33am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Where’d you get ya bag from? I stole it Hehehehe
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:49pm
- leoj
  
  Or Puha and Pakeha by Rod Derret.
  
  Ouch. Truth in comedy.
  
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  March 31, 2024 7:25pm
Chuck Bird

EMERITUS PROFESSOR REX AHDAR: The Rainbow Connection

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/emeritus-professor-rex-ahdar-the-rainbow-connection?postId=4b2111e1-c3b2-4650-ae82-3f61a480b01c&utm_campaign=db2e2f49-19d2-4b3c-a796-73473a9c0111&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=f77d0ef0-c1fd-4096-9f01-c0b854f3bc37&cid=5ad2ad14-ab55-4e15-92b1-7b9538cabd9b
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March 31, 2024 9:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “several members of the Church (paint cans, brushes and rollers in hand) were arrested in anticipation of them re-painting (white) the same zebra crossing.”
  Arrested? Is this true? You can be arrested before a crime has been committed?
  What the fuck is wrong with this Country?
  Six years of Labour has turned NZ into a bunch of offended wimps!
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:27am
  - peterwn
    
    Yes you can – conspiring to commit an offence.
    
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    March 31, 2024 9:44am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Guilty until proven innocent?
      
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      March 31, 2024 10:55am
    - kowtow
      
      yer but we don’t see Plod surveilling supermarket carparks waiting for what must be, well known to them, members of criminal syndicates arriving to clean the shelves out do we ………
      
      And recall how supermarkets are critical, essential services , surely deserving of the highest level of state protection.
      
      Innit.
      
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      March 31, 2024 12:14pm
      - Ghost
        
        Police were given prior notice, don’t think shoplifters give prior warning.
        
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        March 31, 2024 12:19pm
      - kowtow
        
        NB .
        
        I said ‘surveilling’ deliberately , not responding.
        
        Innit.
        
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        March 31, 2024 1:26pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    What happened to clever and amusing graffiti!
    
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    April 1, 2024 7:07pm
- Notsofast
  
  This looks like a chance to seperate the correct concern, which is the instilling of mental ill health into children via the education system, in the guise of inclusivity.
  It is a travesty to declare these hate crimes in advance of this debate. Social media shows that people are terrified of their children being drawn into the trans cult at any age from 3 to 18, when they are 90% likely to be gay, a settled matter in the west.
  
  Andrew Doyle vividly and with searing clarity explains what many already understand here.
  
  https://youtu.be/LNoORI9dnX4?si=Wv2x1PNIF0BoRA5F
  
  Only Simon Bridges from the Select Committee on the Conversion therapy bill seemed to understand this. He tried in vain to explain it to a witless Parliament.
  The bill needs to be fixed.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:39am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    Unfortunately there’s not a lot of “searing clarity” in our House of Unrepresentatives. Simon Bridges was a great loss to parliament – it’s a shame he got the leadership of the Nats before he was ready for it.
    
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    March 31, 2024 9:37pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I wonder how they actually detect and measure the level of “hate” in a particular alleged crime. There is a hate-o-meter they attach to the alleged perp straight after the event?
    
    If hate can’t reliably and accurately be detected and measured, then it’s simply being made up.
    
    There are legion number of reasons why people do things (good and bad). Politicians and the judiciary should steer well clear of pretending to be able to mind-read.
    
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    April 1, 2024 7:01pm
- wsk12345
  
  “ British conservatives now speak regularly of “two-tier policing”. I did not realise it had travelled here so swiftly”
  
  Yup come down harsh on people who graffiti the crossing but if you’re from a preferred group then vandalise, bash old ladies or kill with impunity.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:43am
  - Philview
    
    The recent smashing up of a Captain Cook statue is surely also a Hate Crime and we should expect consistency from the police.
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:24am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    “two-tier policing”
    
    It’s called anarcho-tyranny:
    
    “Anarcho-tyranny” refers to armed dictatorship without rule of law, or a Hegelian synthesis when the state tyrannically or oppressively regulates citizens’ lives yet is unable or unwilling to enforce fundamental protective law.
    
    Put another way, Police defunding was misunderstood from the beginning.
    
    Or put yet another way, Rules Are For Suckers
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:03pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      A much brighter man than I once said, “Rules are made for the observance of fools, and the guidance of wise men.”
      Problem is, there are obviously many more fools than wise men – including the cops.
      
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      March 31, 2024 1:02pm
      - kowtow
        
        Aha!
        
        I’ve seen that attributed to Arthur Wellesley , First Duke of Wellington.
        
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        March 31, 2024 1:24pm
  - kowtow
    
    A couple of years ago or so ,no lesser a person than the Commissioner of Police himself, published in $1uffed a piece whereby he went to ridiculous lengths to pervert the meaning and intent of the Peel Principles ,aka policing by consent , to justify the open , public , anarchic and illegal establishment of race run road blocks during the scamdemic.
    
    Two tier policing.
    
    You better believe it.
    
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    March 31, 2024 1:22pm
- Philview
  
  I was surprised by the charge of Hate Crime. Personally I have nothing against the LGBT community but I don’t like the concept of a rainbow coloured road crossing. 1. A waste of money. 2 A safety road safety issue. 3. A woke gesture that achieves nothing.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:19am
  - kowtow
    
    There’s no such thing in NZ as a “hate” crime.
    
    How Plod ( and te media) can talk like that shows just where the real mis/disinformation is coming from.
    
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    March 31, 2024 11:39am
    - Nobby2
      
      It would be helpful if someone provide evidence of where in NZ’s laws it is written what a hate crime is. If it is not NZ law what authority do the police have to dream up a hate crime charge.
      
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      March 31, 2024 1:14pm
      - Ghost
        
        Hate-motivated crime
        
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        March 31, 2024 2:57pm
      - Taieri
        
        Hate-motivated crime
        
        If you feel unsafe, attacked, threatened, hurt, or targeted because of your race, religion, sexuality, gender, age, or disability, you should tell someone.
        
        You can report this to Police or to one of our partner agencies.
        
        https://www.police.govt.nz/advice-services/advice-victims/hate-motivated-crime
        
        “If you feel unsafe…” …what does it even mean? A very strange definition of crime. Or is it “crime”?
        
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        March 31, 2024 3:09pm
      - kowtow
        
        And from the Fuzz’s own linked page .
        
        “What is a hate-motivated crime?
        There are currently no specific offences called ‘hate crime’ in New Zealand law but you should always tell Police if you think you (or another person or group) were targeted because of your race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, age, disability, or any other part of your identity.”
        
        So Plod says they investigate something as a “hate crime”and yet they themselves say there’s no such thing !
        
        Can’t get more dysfunctionally Orwellian than that. or is it misand disinformation they’re engaging in……
        
        And that video of Red’s of what can only be described as a major police operation to protect a ‘rainbow’ crossing where they arrest people and seen to have turned out the whole of the local Constabulary including plainclothes ………had Destiny been running the illegal scamdemic roadblocks I imagine Plod would have run them in and put paid to them quick time , instead of allowing the sore to fester and even providing support ……
        
        This is yet more evidence that the police are not here for the good of the wider communidy but have very clear prioidies for certain interests .
        
        The non intervention at the trans riot at Albert park is simply more evidence of this.
        
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        March 31, 2024 4:41pm
      - Nobby2
        
        Ghost, the article you posted specifically states “there are currently no specific offences called – hate crimes – in New Zealand law”, therefore I suggest the police cannot legally charge anyone with a hate crime as there is no specific offence law that allows them to do so.
        
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        March 31, 2024 5:26pm
      - Ghost
        
        They won’t be charged with a hate crime. They are charged with “ graffiti vandalism”. It will be as the police page says
        
        If your report is investigated and there is evidence that the crime could have happened because of hate (bias or prejudice) Police may:
        
        include information on your report to allow the Judge to consider this when they sentence people in court.
        
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        March 31, 2024 5:38pm
      - kowtow
        
        ghost
        
        Can you please point out the specific charge of “grafitti vandalism”in our statute books .
        
        I wonder if it has anything remotely to do with a spagetti junction or some other such Eyetalian verbage …..
        
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        March 31, 2024 5:50pm
      - Ghost
        
        Graffiti vandalism, tagging, defacing, etc
        
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        March 31, 2024 5:56pm
      - kowtow
        
        ghost
        
        I stand corrected.
        
        And have learned something.
        
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        March 31, 2024 8:58pm
    - leoj
      
      What is sadder is namby-pamby National MP Mark Mitchell agreeing with the commissioner.
      
      Mitchell must be spending lots of time with Mr Woke himself, Luxon The Weak.
      
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      March 31, 2024 7:29pm
      - Ghost
        
        Here is what mqrk said, which part do you not agree with?
        
        Mitchell said he did not want police resources tied up responding to what he said was “nonsense.”
        
        “I am frustrated yes … the last thing I want to see is police officers having to deal with that sort of nonsense so whoever is doing it should stop it.”
        
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        March 31, 2024 7:57pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Auckland Council wants homeless man to stop selling coffee. No license.
Here is a guy trying to make a go of it. The Council should help him, not berate him.
Hope he makes it.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/homeless-man-told-to-stop-selling-instant-coffees-in-street-cafe-by-auckland-council/ar-BB1kMdkw
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March 31, 2024 9:07am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  There was a few years ago a beggar in Wellington named Ruffo. He noticed that buskers made better money than beggars. Despite not having a musical bone in his body, he got himself a battered guitar with four strings and sat strumming it tunelessly. Reportedly, his takings went up.
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:25am
Michael Sommerville

I have a friend who has just started a holiday in Vietnam. He asked his driver about electric cars in Vietnam. There are no electric cars in Vietnam and no one has any interest in them.

So while the greens, lefties and Luxon carry on with the mad dash to expensive alternatives and policy that makes our country poorer, some places in the rest of the world just get on with life.
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March 31, 2024 9:15am
- softail 1450
  
  Michael, they had a similar response to the Covid panic.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:14am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Softail.
    Dont know where you get your opinion from but a couple of friends of mine got put in open air detention centres Vietnam had a rigid response to Covid. Test positive and you got put in “”barracks””
    
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7348105/
    
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    March 31, 2024 10:14pm
- Jethrod
  
  It appears that green policies are an anathema in Asia. They don’t give a sweet f for anything approaching green on the spectrum
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Power generation and connection is probably the problem in Vietnam, 3rd world I believe.
  
  I was looking at an article where they had a 30 hectare section full of unwanted wind turbines, clearly people are waking up, the plastic rotting in that paddock will be so bad for the environment, not yo mention the process of moulding the plastic into turbines
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:54pm
  - Ghost
    
    Vietnam has a car manufacturer that has shifted to making electric cars
    
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    March 31, 2024 1:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Its fiberglass and carbon fiber.
    Uncle google can show what they do with them. Not very Green at all, but try debate that with a Green nutter!
    
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    March 31, 2024 2:37pm
- rjay
  
  The EV market in Vietnam appears to be equivalent to that of NZ.
  https://www.statista.com/topics/10557/electric-vehicle-market-in-vietnam/#topicOverview
  
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  March 31, 2024 2:19pm
- Jake Dee
  
  With all due respect for your recollection of a conversation that you had with your buddy who went on holiday to Vietnam and had a conversation with a taxi driver who spoke English as a second language, I seriously doubt that is true,
  https://vero-asean.com/vietnam-ev-market-sustainable-transportation/
  2 wheelers
  “According to the Ministry of Industry and Trade, sales of electric motorcycles have grown by about 30-35% in recent years, making Vietnam the largest electric two-wheeler (E2W) market in the ASEAN region and the second-largest worldwide, after China. ”
  4 wheelers
  In December 2021, VinFast released the VF e34, the first electric car to be produced in Vietnam as well as the first ever EV sold in the country. That historic moment marked the beginning of a new era for transportation in Vietnam. As of August 2022, nearly 3,000 electric cars had been produced, assembled or distributed nationwide, data from the Vietnam Register shows. “
  
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  March 31, 2024 5:18pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

IT’s dirty little secret. Energy consumption by AI is set to rocket; there’s no sign that crypto mining is slowly down while data centres are being built with gay abandon.

Clean electricity generation is falling behind.

“According to Sreedhar Sistu, vice president of artificial intelligence at Schneider Electric, excluding China, AI represents 4.3 GW of global power demand, and could grow almost five-fold by 2028. Another analysis has predicted that demand from AI will grow exponentially, increasing at least 10x between 2023 and 2026”.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Is-Nuclear-Fusion-Really-The-Ultimate-Solution-to-AIs-Crazy-Power-Use.html
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March 31, 2024 9:32am
- thirteenstars
  
  Data centers produce more greenhouse gases (through consumption of vast amounts of electricity) than the airline industry.
  
  That said, it’s us that use the data running through those data centers. Not that it worries me. I’m in IT but most in the industry are quite woke and it sits uncomfortably with them that all those nasty jet engines are less of a problem than their keyboards.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:15am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Note Ardern tried to get those places here? Hypothetically bitch
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:55pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Not sure how hypothetical the Auckland Data Centre was…
      
      but looks like it is on hold.
      
      https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/03/01/amazons-7-5b-nz-data-centre-plan-quietly-put-on-hold/
      
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      March 31, 2024 4:45pm
- mogg
  
  Who knew, we need electricity to produce clean electricity. When the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining we can rely on Huntley to fill the gap. when cancelling gas exploration Jacinda and Chloe’s”technology will provide a solution” seems to be more like a wing and a prayer. What a pair of Morons.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:23am
- NothingLeft
  
  There’s just been a break through in 1-bit LLMs where similar performance to existing models has been achieved using only -1,0,1 to encode the weights and can eliminate expensive matrix multiplication of vast arrays of longer numbers from the LLM models.
  
  That is going to reduce power and hardware requirements by up to an order of magnitude and mean that a human brain processing power equivalent processor can be done with just a couple of chips and likely a few 100 watts. Reaction times/throughput also greatly increased
  
  Huge implications for cheap autonomous robots and AI in general once dedicated chips are designed to implement this simpler math.
  
  And the abyss humans are stumbling towards just got even closer.
  
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  March 31, 2024 2:55pm
Lenticular

Happy Easter to everyone, and especially the Christians here.
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March 31, 2024 10:00am
- Keith White
  
  Why would anyone downtick this? I’m quite old but clearly not nearly cynical enough.
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:34pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I think because he singled out Christians
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:58pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Easter is a Christian festival – Duh.
      
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      March 31, 2024 2:24pm
      - Ghost
        
        Is it? Easter is the pagan festival of Eostre. But like all things from religion, it was taken and rebranded for the religion
        
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        March 31, 2024 4:56pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Yes, but we are not all Christian’s are we?
        
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        March 31, 2024 7:08pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  No need to go there mate, why not simply say happy Easter to all NZers? This is part of the problem in this country, yes I do realise you started with happy Easter to all
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:57pm
  - Lenticular
    
    Do you get upset if you’re in a room with a Chinese family, and someone wishes you all a happy Chinese New Year, especially them?
    
    It’s a day off for you, but for Christians it’s the #1 most important day in the calendar and commemorates an action by God that Christians entire lives revolve around.
    
    So: Happy Easter to you. Have a nice day off. Really.
    To Christians, for whom it’s really really important: Happy Easter *especially* to you.
    
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    March 31, 2024 4:32pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I am not up set, it’s the fact you said especially the Christian people, the Chinese person did not single our Chinese in your example
      
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      March 31, 2024 7:10pm
Cassandra

From NZTA: “A pedestrian crossing is an area of road that has white stripes marked across it.” It’ll be an interesting court case in Gisborne.
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March 31, 2024 10:08am
- thirteenstars
  
  It all depends how the council has designated the rainbow on the road.
  
  There are legal crossings (white zebra) and courtesy crossings which are all over the place and usually have those knobby yellow plastic strips that indicate it’s a safe area to cross but vehicles aren’t legally required to stop.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:19am
- Paulus
  
  I though we have been told that a legal opinion has been sought in Auckland which said so called Rainbow crossings are not legal but the report, when delivered, disappeared.
  How stupid can we get – don’t answer, as 53% of the voters voted for her- but cannot find many now, except older ladies as per polls.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:32am
- Albie
  
  Cassa. I wonder what the procedure is to have NZTA allow you to paint over a pedestrian crossing? Why just rainbows and not other options? One could identify with The Ukrainian Insurgent Army and paint out the white stripes red for example.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:33am
- Prince
  
  Yes I noticed a similar description on the ‘Waka Kotahi’ website.
  ‘Although legally described in NZ’s traffic legislation as a ‘pedestrian crossing’, a priority crossing featuring white striped bars running from kerb to kerb across the road is commonly known as a ‘zebra crossing’. An example of a zebra crossing is shown below.’
  https://www.nzta.govt.nz/walking-cycling-and-public-transport/walking/walking-standards-and-guidelines/pedestrian-network-guidance/design/crossings/priority-crossings/zebra-crossings/
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:39am
  - lifesgood
    
    The more I think about it the more I realise rainbow crossings are absolutely ridiculous and should be banned. Look, I love old cars and belong to a car club, why can’t I paint pictures of old cars on pedestrian crossings? How about painting the RSA flag, or the All Blacks banner or any number of things. Why are the gays allowed to do this and why is everyone too scared to hold them to account and charge them with vandalism? Why is the government so terrified of this minority group?
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:22pm
    - Ghost
      
      Are the gays doing this? I think it’s the councils doing this because of militant groups funded by those that fund blm and antifa. It’s about creating separatism. Don’t blame the gay community for what these new groups are wanting and demanding
      
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      March 31, 2024 12:38pm
      - Nukuleka
        
        No such thing as a ‘gay community’.
        
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        March 31, 2024 2:03pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Unless, of course, they are really happy. 🙂
        
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        March 31, 2024 2:25pm
    - Paulus
      
      Because in New Zealand we have come to know that Minority groups can get away with anything, without recourse.
      Of course the so called media will support such actions, as long as it anti the elected Government.
      Thank Ardern and the Greens.
      
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      March 31, 2024 1:59pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Transport NZ
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:59pm
- DimChappie
  
  They won’t do much if you get robbed but NZ Police showed up in strength when some Destiny Church heroes painted over a rainbow crossing in Gisborne. Redbaiter prepared this video:
  
  https://youtu.be/Tm6Rd4iLA9Q
  
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  March 31, 2024 1:00pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, a woman was found to be in the wrong when crossing a decorated crossing in NZ courts (not so long ago(not a rainbow crossing)
  
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  March 31, 2024 7:13pm
softail 1450

“ Today the RDF launched a heavy high precision missile strike against the UDF and infrastructure using Kinzhal hyper sonic weapons unmanned aerial vehicles and sea launched missiles , all targets were struck” <~~~~ the Russian defence ministry
FFS if that uncontested statement isn’t enough to get old Joe to stop thinking about ice cream and sniffing little girls hair nothing will, have NATO gone silent as well ? are we about to see the downfall of the Zelenskyy regime ???
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March 31, 2024 10:12am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Surely that should ROF and not RDF?
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:44am
  - softail 1450
    
    NMTB,Just reporting what the Duran stated ,not taking sides but I think the end is getting closer with each passing week and NATO aren’t going to be dancing in the streets.
    
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    March 31, 2024 12:36pm
- mawm
  
  softail – I think NATO realises that they have lost. They have nothing more to throw at the Russians – munitions and men, and as a result they are resorting to terrorism. The US military (& CIA) and the Brits (MI5) had to know about and probably planned the attack on civilians in Moscow.
  
  This has poked there Bear and I think now we’ll see massive destruction of infrastructure used by NATO in Ukraine.
  
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  March 31, 2024 1:07pm
  - Che Guava
    
    ISIS was created and used as a pretext to prevent Obama pulling out of Iraq, and “ISIS” performing a terrorist act against Russia then trying to escape into Ukraine may be a good way to provoke a Russian escalation in Ukraine, thus justifying more European resources being pumped into Ukraine rather than admitting defeat and pulling stumps, which seemed to be the direction of travel before the attack.
    
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    March 31, 2024 1:29pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Due to congressional deadlock over closing the border the US cut off significant supplies to Ukraine about 6 months back.
  
  Biggest issue has been lack of ammunition particularly missiles for defense. They are the only defense for hypersonic ballistic missiles and Ukraine is now almost out of patriot missiles, able to only defend a few small areas. Due to high ballistic missile re-entry speeds a Patriot battery can only defend a limited area of a few 10’s of km diameter.
  
  Patriot were also able to take down bombers releasing glide bombs 50-100km from front lines. Without that deterrence and defense the Russians are now using greatly increased numbers of glide bombs with impunity.
  
  West has something like 100 batteries sitting around, and produces about 6-700 patriot missiles a year (USA+Japan and soon European production), with many thousands in inventory and production being rapidly increased. But they have only provided Ukraine with five batteries at least one of which has now been destroyed.
  
  Unless the west gives Ukraine a lot more missiles or other means to take out Russian aircraft they are going to start losing a lot of ground. Trench defenses can’t withstand 200-1500kg glide bombs, and ukrainian energy infrastructure is being taken apart by ballistic missiles that can’t be defended against.
  
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  March 31, 2024 3:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Something for Waka Coathanger to think about:

https://www.facebook.com/libertymelle/posts/pfbid02NS2qEMZNmL3ADFkJpN4dnEvNpKUuquq4eEDTe92wCznm2fDiYKMz85KvjYYdNL3Kl
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March 31, 2024 10:24am
Chuck Bird

Khaled Abu Toameh, an award-winning Israeli-Arab journalist, speaks to Sky’s Sharri Markson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPqKFtVOJwc
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March 31, 2024 10:28am
- Che Guava
  
  Subtitle, Jewish media personality Sharri Markson digs up a sympathetic Arab journalist to justify Israel’s atrocities in Gaza.
  
  The argument is that some of the Arabs don’t support Hamas, therefore killing thousands of Palestinians or forcing them to flee their homes is morally justified.
  
  The logic is air tight on this one.
  
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  March 31, 2024 10:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

How to retain your forests and develop your oil and gas industry…

The President of Guyana considers the hypocrisy of the west

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/03/the-president-of-guyana-gives-bbc-host-a-lecture-on-climate-change/
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March 31, 2024 11:11am
Muttonbird

A brutal dismantling of Coutts’ and his fellow travellers’ dolphin whinge-fest this week:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018932066/cranky-claims-drown-out-facts-in-sailgp-dolphin-drama
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March 31, 2024 12:04pm
- Philview
  
  Russell Coutts didn’t win any friends amongst journalists when he turned up at the Wellington vaccine protest and heavily criticised Jacinda Ardern.
  
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  March 31, 2024 12:41pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahaha, perhaps rotten media are attacking the messenger on behalf of dizzy Ardern
    
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    March 31, 2024 1:02pm
- NothingLeft
  
  “brutal dismantling” in the imagination of a few far left whiners held in contempt by the majority of NZ.
  
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  March 31, 2024 3:19pm
Ghost

An American gossip site is claiming a royal insider has told them Charles has pancreatic cancer and a year or two to live

Being America I doubt it’s anything but someone making shit up. If not Harry and what’s her name could be leaking again.
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March 31, 2024 12:50pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Electric Vehicle owners should only be allowed to charge their cars using wind and solar, otherwise it’s just pretend…..
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March 31, 2024 1:47pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Manufacture of solar panels and wind turbines should be done without fossil fuels ⛽️, otherwise it’s just pretend.
  
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  March 31, 2024 3:08pm
  - kevn
    
    Chris… and have a recycling plan seeing the wind/solar options only have a 20 year life.
    At this stage it is deemed impossible, they just get buried. Sooo smart.
    
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    March 31, 2024 3:54pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So smart – the Greens.
      Hello Chloe, Chloe, are you there???
      No comment from Chloe.
      
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      March 31, 2024 5:17pm
Swifty

Leaked footage from the recent NZ Labour Party conference karaoke after-party:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1099107311214837?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&mibextid=GGtJg3
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March 31, 2024 2:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How do they get such a high IQ level?
  Incredible.
  
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  March 31, 2024 2:42pm
PurplePen

An excellent resource for facts about CO2 below. Has very clear and easy to understand slides. Worth sharing with teachers at the next parent-teacher evening if that’s still a thing. I’ve sent it to several of the Strike4Climate contacts, tho I fear their minds might be closed. Hope not.

https://co2coalition.org/facts/
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March 31, 2024 2:45pm
Swifty

Scotland’s imminent hate speech laws:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww6Zig4XKyE

The decline of western democracies continues apace….
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March 31, 2024 2:50pm
- MCōs
  
  There are already laws in place to protect certain groups from hate crime.
  https://www.parliament.scot/bills-and-laws/bills/hate-crime-and-public-order-scotland-bill
  
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  March 31, 2024 9:26pm
  - Swifty
    
    And I specifically said “continues apace.”
    
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    April 1, 2024 12:08am
Chuck Bird

I see Peters is going to visit Egypt but not Israel. Does think Israel should turn the other cheek?
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March 31, 2024 3:11pm
- Ghost
  
  Becuase he is a busy man?
  
  He is in Egypt on April 1, then travels to Poland for meetings on April 2
  Brussels from April 3 – 4
  Stockholm 5 – 6
  
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  March 31, 2024 3:20pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That’s a lot of 🥃
    
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    March 31, 2024 7:18pm
- MCōs
  
  I didn’t know any of that
  I doubt if too many people in Israel do either
  They have a lot on their plates right now
  
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  March 31, 2024 8:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

TOW Comic for high school kids Part 33.

The Wairau Valley, Nelson conflict where Maori said the land was not sold. It was. But not in the comic – why?

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-33/

There is an expanded post here:

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-33-2/
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