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NeverMindTheBollocks

Coming to a haberdashery near you?

Malaysian convenience store owner charged over ‘Allah socks’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68662468
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March 27, 2024 8:04am
AgainstTheFlow

I wonder if the Destiny Church pedestrian crossing painters will be treated the same by the authorities as the Te Papa Treaty defacers?

Not that I support either protest action
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March 27, 2024 8:05am
- kowtow
  
  Councils etc need to keep their virtue signalling out of road traffic matters .
  
  Neither the time nor place .
  
  btw good on Destint for taking ‘direct action” , goose gander and all that.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:17am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Lefty vandalism and pushing their crap into the public square is more holy (according to lefties).
    
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    March 29, 2024 2:33pm
- Ra Henare
  
  The rainbow crossings are illegal. The correct approach would have been to take the Council to court.
  But I support the overpainting.
  Yes, two wrongs dont make a right.
  But it highlighted the wokeness of that Council.
  
  The paint on the treaty was, in my view, a heinous crime. If the a merry cans judiciary can hand out 22 year jail sentences for the Capitol riots(it wasn’t an insurrection that the media keep insisting it was). Then the violators of the treaty should have got at least 5 years in the slammer.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:25am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Now, here’s a story with which anyone who walks The Terrace will concur!

The Ugandan government has instructed all civil servants to spend two hours a week doing physical exercise to keep them fit and healthy.

The directive was shared in a letter to government agencies from the head of public service, Lucy Nakyobe, who said the sessions would “help save the lives of staff and reduce the disease burden”.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-africa-68399818
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March 27, 2024 8:10am
slightlyrighty

Regarding the signs for Maori and Pasifika Only Spaces at Auckland University.

I would encourage those who are against these to actively go in to these spaces, and if they are challenged simply state “I Identify as Maori” or “I Identify as Pasifika”

Apparently it works for transgender Women in Women Only places…
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March 27, 2024 8:12am
- Stellaboxer
  
  The people who could really deal the death to this BS are Māori and Pacifika by not attending and allowing themselves to be exploited by these Neo Marxist toe rags. Unfortunately I believe that too many in the Universities see this as sophisticated rather than self segregation.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:08am
  - artemisia
    
    I want to know if it just a place to sit around safely or if there are perks. At least puppies and hot chocolate.
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:33am
    - Jack5
      
      The Herald wades into the Auckland University safe-spaces issue.
      
      Note the headline: “University of Auckland student shuts down segregation allegations levelled by Act Party.”
      
      Shuts down? “Replies to” would be the description in an objective report.
      
      When local families controlled NZ newspapers, they acted as a balance to the Left-tilt of unionised journalists (and in those days, printers). The Otago Daily Times is the only bigger NZ daily paper still controlled by a family, and it shows.
      
      For the Herald, Brierley at first edged in with a stake. Irish investors bought it, then gained full control, and in 2002 switched it into their Australian subsidiary.
      
      In 2016, NZME, the Herald’s present owner, was “demerged” and listed on the NZ Stock Exchange.
      
      Its owners are diverse and widely spread – hedge funds, funds managers, and the like. Not the sort of owners who would give a rat’s arse about objective v. biased reporting.
      
      The headline:
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/university-of-auckland-student-shuts-down-segregation-allegations-levelled-by-act-party/NDOIZJDBHBFHFOEJJYYHLUNLLI/
      
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      March 27, 2024 1:27pm
- Simon
  
  “simply state “I Identify as Maori” or “I Identify as Pasifika”
  
  Nonsense. Just tell them to fuck off.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:08am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    No Simon. By Identifying as someone you are not, it forces the Woke Ideologues to either stick to their wider principles and let you in, or, (and this is the desired response), tell you that you cannot identify as something you are not.
    
    At this point you can bring up the Trans issue and ask them to explain to you why self identification works for Gender, but not Ethnicity.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:51am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      I saw a great meme that had a photo of a waiting room in the south of the US in the 50s or 60s which had a sign above it saying “ coloured People” and next to it a sign on a door in a modern university in the states which said “People of Colour”. One acceptable to the Uber sophisticated post modernist and one despicable but both saying exactly the same thing. Orwell I believe once wrote that some ideas were so ridiculous that they could only be believed by academics.
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:19am
  - rouppe
    
    Or a slightly less inflammatory “segregation by race is illegal”.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:54am
- kowtow
  
  It would appear just about every faculty has such a room .
  
  I wonder if the staff have such a room .
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:24am
- 7kiwi11
  
  Wow. Next it will be non-Maori/Pasifika at the back of the bus.
  Also I never understand why Pasifika get their own special privilege’s when they are immigrants just like the rest of us.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:47am
  - Media hater
    
    Pasifika create all kinds of work for various government bodies, so just as ‘special’ as Māori I guess.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:55am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    “ Also I never understand why Pasifika get their own special privilege’s when they are immigrants just like the rest of us.” Because they are brown so the racist Marxist makes all manner of assumptions about their needs ,their social status , their inadequacy. The left are good ole fashioned racists masquerading as champions of the oppressed but to remain relevant they need to ensure those they champion remain oppressed pure and simple. It’s why after 100 years or so of championing the working class nothing ever changed for them they always were worse off after a leftists government.
    
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    March 27, 2024 2:46pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Why should the identify as anything? Why can’t they say seperatist areas are frowned upon in Aoteranowhere
  
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  March 27, 2024 10:14am
- nzgoose
  
  Alternativly replace the signs with a copy stating whites only.
  
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  March 27, 2024 12:50pm
  - peterwn
    
    Fun fact. When the Pentagon was designed, segregated toilets and lunchrooms were provided to meet the segregation laws of Virginia (the Pentagon is just outside the District of Columbia) with ‘whites only’ signs erected. President Roosevelt saw this and ordered the signs be removed. The Virginia Governor protested but Roosevelt said it was a Federal building for Federal employees so segregation is not going to apply.
    
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    March 27, 2024 2:06pm
- Sir Henry Morgan
  
  Back in the early 1990s there had long been a student common room reserved for Maoris, with a separate one then added for Pacific Islanders. There were also separate common rooms for women and for homosexuals. Obviously there were no common room reserved for males or white people.
  
  This disparity actually got discussed at some kind of student debate in the Quad, which likely would never happen these days. Some student council representative argued that the games room (fitted with snooker tables etc.) was a de facto ‘white male space’, despite everyone who wanted to use the facilities being welcome. Not quite fair, but also not entirely unreasonable I thought to myself. . .
  
  Then next semester they closed down the games room and it became student council offices.
  
  A random question or two.
  
  When and why did Pacific Island become “Pasifika” in English? I’m no linguist, but presumably the various languages of the Pacific Islands (which do not even all belong to a single language family) would each have completely different words to describe this concept? Even if they use their own variants of Pacific, presumably they would spell them differently.
  
  Are Filipinos, Malays and Indonesians (not the Chinese ones obviously!) allowed to use the seating areas reserved for Maoris and Pacific Islanders at Auckland University?
  
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  March 27, 2024 3:45pm
Maggie Pie

A JOY TO WATCH…

When Chloe and Winnie clash in The House….there can only be ONE winner.
And when the Green Pardy rag-n-bone man Steve unAble raises “a point of order”, he is promptly sat back on his arse by Mr Speaker 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/2ETEKA/status/1772496800378957893
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March 27, 2024 8:15am
- pdm
  
  Sometimes it is hard to dislike Winston Peters.
  
  Especially when the even more unlikeable Greens try to take him on in the debating chamber.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:25am
  - Ipanema69
    
    Just remember he gave us Jacinda and Grant.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:26am
    - pdm
      
      Ipa – exactly what I think of when I decide that he has done something worthwhile.
      
      Like taking down Chloe and the `ragman’ in this X video.
      
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      March 27, 2024 8:52am
    - Ra Henare
      
      He got sideswiped by the Jacinderites.
      and dissociated himself from labour going in to the 2020 election.
      
      I am glad he is back in parliament. Brings some good old fashioned entertainment to the otherwise illiterate and boring processes.
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:32am
    - kowtow
      
      He really is a show man , like the Ring Master he has everyone cheering along to his chosen theme of the night .
      
      Meanwhile he has helped preside over the long ,slow decline of this country and as you point out he was the architect of accelerated decline by annointing Ardern’s destructive and divisive regime .
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:04am
      - Jack5
        
        Ardern really cut loose after Labour took power without need of an MMP partner.
        
        Peters kept a rein on Labour when he was in coalition with it.
        
        It’s unlikely National will ever govern alone again.
        
        Peters on his feet is entertaining. He talks like an old-time politician addressing everyone at a local meeting.
        
        Pick out someone at the back of the hall and talk loudly to that person, was the advice of an old-time NZ political fireball, the one-armed World War 1 veteran John A. Lee.
        
        Many politicians now are microphone-trained, soft-mumble bores.
        
        I hope Peters doesn’t burn out before the next election.
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:45pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      To be fair he probably thought he was giving us Helengrad again. Instead we got the the trojan-horse far-left hell.
      
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      March 29, 2024 2:41pm
  - Simon
    
    Old school Gweens: Eating vegetables fertilized with their own shit.
    
    Gweens 2024: Forcing everyone to eat vegetables fertilized with their own shit.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:31am
    - kowtow
      
      Greens/Labour 2050
      
      No food for anyone to eat.
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:42am
      - Mr Nobody NZ
        
        Well in fairness I’m sure that the Green’s Leadership will still have plenty of food so they can ensure that their policies are implemented correctly for our well being.
        
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        March 27, 2024 10:00am
      - artemisia
        
        Back in the day Luke Wijohn, now known as Taitoa Wihone, told Radio NZ “Reports out of the UK are saying that they are running out of fertile land and in about 30 years they are going to have no more food … It’s kind of clear we’re on the verge of mass starvation…”
        
        He was a Green candidate in 2020, not in 2023. Possibly too busy focusing on his government policy advisor role. Or growing up.
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:28am
  - jkt
    
    Hate him or love him:
    Peters knows his way in the debating chamber.
    
    He was always very competent, now he is established. He is very charming but also controversial and often divisive.
    
    It will be sort of sad if he does not retire and ends up getting retired from parliament.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:38am
- softail 1450
  
  Maggie Pie, thank you for that you’ve brightened up my morning, it’s bad for the greens when they bring in a member that looks eerily like Billy goat gruff who then speaks up authoritatively and proves he’s about as smart as that comic book character…
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:27am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Did you see this comment Softie that a bestie replied with 😎
    
    https://twitter.com/praisethechrist/status/1772505302631342286
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:07am
    - softail 1450
      
      MP, it’s the goatee that cracks me up …
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:16am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Aaaah… The value of a law degree……
  perhaps Chlöe missed the lecture on Conspiracy.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:29am
  - jkt
    
    I thought she had a law degree:
    Therefore, her battles with Peters either demonstrate the decline in the quality of law school graduates over time or the raw ability of these two……. Maybe, it reflects the values of the respective ideologies of choice?
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:43am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “I thought she had a law degree”
      
      More likely a coleslaw degree.
      
      Word salad.
      
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      March 27, 2024 11:01am
      - nzgoose
        
        Same university as james shaws degree???
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:59pm
      - Jack5
        
        MW’s …perhaps Chlöe missed the lecture …
        
        Instead she was looking and looking for the right place to hang her umlaut.
        
        https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/baby_names/1074821-Where-do-the-dots-go-in-Chl-e-Chl
        
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        March 27, 2024 3:17pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Chloe could always do what her brand of politician does when refusing to speak with Mike Hosking on the wireless, by refusing to question those MPs she doesn’t like in the House…
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:35am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Baltimore Bridge.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/engineers-reveal-why-baltimore-bridge-collapsed-so-quickly/ss-BB1kz6m9#image=7
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March 27, 2024 8:20am
- Maggie Pie
  
  People with knowledge of the matter are saying the boats Captain was Ukranian
  and the Chief Engineer was an Indian.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:27am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    The had an American pilot on board who has guided thousands of vessels under the bridge. It’s apparent the vessel twice lost power before it drifted into the bridge.
    
    Well done to the authorities on land who were able to close the bridge within 90 seconds of receiving a distress call from the ship.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:34am
    - Simon
      
      “It’s apparent the vessel twice lost power before it drifted into the bridge.”
      
      Yep lost power. Happy clappy act of god?
      Who was responsible for maintenance? The Indian crew?
      
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      March 27, 2024 8:43am
    - jkt
      
      It looks more like the ship was deliberately steered into the pier. But I prefer to believe your take on it.
      
      I struggle to understand how that type of ship can loose total power without assistance.
      
      The smoke stack does indicate a full steam ahead “instruction” directly after the initial electrical outage.
      
      We should soon know what caused the event. A spectacular mess.
      
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      March 27, 2024 8:51am
      - Taieri
        
        I struggle to understand how that type of ship can loose total power without assistance.
        ————-
        
        Ships lose power for all reasons, sometimes very trivial, sometimes unexplainable. A container ship I once sailed on, lost power due to the blackout caused by a crushed indicator light bulb in the changeover switch, which caused a short circuit and knocked out the control power for the main engine.
        
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        March 27, 2024 9:30am
      - jkt
        
        Thanks. Yes these things happen.
        
        But this incident points to a bad design or a bad operational practice if there was no foul play. Redundancy is an important design consideration and older designs and infrastructure often lack redundancy. This should be a totally avoidable incident.
        
        Shit happens but this one should have been avoided. As someone pointed out elsewhere, where bridge abutments are at risk and vulnerable a tug boat should have been in attendance.
        
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        March 27, 2024 10:58am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I think it was the stern (blunt end) that hit the pylon.
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:33am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Nope. Pictures show the bow (sharp end) hitting.
        
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        March 27, 2024 9:54am
      - jkt
        
        The video seems to show that the ship veers off to the left away from the “pylon” aggressively at the “last moment”.
        I think that is how a ship will behave when it closes in on an obstruction such as the “pylon”. Just like when you cayak in white water.
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:05am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        jkt, Starboard anchor was down
        
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        March 27, 2024 1:47pm
  - peterwn
    
    Perhaps the engine room had similar issues that the Kaitaki has had and the engineer was merely doing his best.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:39am
  - MCōs
    
    The ship was controlled by a local pilot(s)
    https://www.wdsu.com/article/cargo-ship-hits-baltimore-key-bridge-causing-it-to-collapse/60303020#:~:text=people%20were%20affected.-,Synergy%20Marine%20Group%20%E2%80%94%20which%20manages%20the%20ship%2C%20called%20the%20Dali,by%20Grace%20Ocean%20Private%20Ltd.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:54am
    - Simon
      
      “The ship was controlled by a local pilot(s)’
      
      DEI hires
      
      Episode 3 of “Working at the Port of Baltimore” celebrates #WomensHistoryMonth by featuring Captain Beth Christman of the Association of Maryland Pilots!
      
      Beth is the vice president and also a bay pilot and, in this episode, she tells us what the pilots do, how important they are to the Port of Baltimore, and how more women are showing interest in this very unique and amazing profession
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtO0Dtq0_LM
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:23am
      - Taieri
        
        There was a woman pilot at the Port of Lyttelton. Captain Joanne Stanley. A top professional in every respect. There’s another one at the Port of Auckland, Captain Holly Clayton. Just as good.
        
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        March 27, 2024 10:29am
      - rangitoto
        
        Pilots do make mistakes. Didn’t one of them in NZ put a Russian cruise ship onto the rocks in the sounds.
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:10am
      - wsk12345
        
        Rangitīkei – That’s right. About mid 1980s. He took the liner through a passage that wasn’t big enough given the rocks underwater. Talk was that he was drunk but I think that anything beyond rumours was all suppressed.
        
        It’s a popular dive location now – quite a few divers have died out there.
        
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        March 27, 2024 1:35pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    I watched the stream of the incident.
    2 power outages on the vessel immediateley prior to the collision. And emrgency measures – full astern that did not work as anticipated.
    Not sure that nationality of the Master and Chief would have had any impact on the event.
    The vibrations you can feel are the hordes of lawyers rushing to represent the interests of Owners, Charterers, Crew, Cargo Interests, those who lost thier lives, the port of Baltimore, the city of Baltimore and anyone who will have their lively hoods ruined by the absence of the bridge and the closure of the port.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:56am
- peterwn
  
  Following the collapse of the bridge over the Derwent (Tasmania) some years ago, large ships have had to have a tug in attendance. Also modern bridges of this sort are now designed to stay up even if one pier is knocked out.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:41am
  - MCōs
    
    There’s no way the main span of that bridge could have stayed up if a pier failed
    However the pier had no protection in the case of such a collision, which may or may not have saved the day
    Putting aside the obvious tragedy of the situation there will be a few engineers who love this sort of thing, but they dare not show it
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Apparently the ship previously hit a dock in Antwerp, Belgium.
  Maybe someone just can’t drive or follow the pilot’s instructions?
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:47am
  - jkt
    
    Drink driving?
    
    Drunk pilot?
    
    Always a worry!
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:56am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I suggest the ships visiting Chelsea Sugar refinery should have a tub boat attached and that deflective bollards are installed in front of the AHB piers. Better to be safe than sorry.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:50am
  - alex Masterley
    
    LMS, when large commercial vessels transit the bridge there are, on the times I have seen them do so, tugs both fore and aft. The same applies to naval vessels transiting to Kauri Point.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:29am
Rusty

Terrible sight watching that cargo ship destroying that massive bridge in Baltimore with vehicles on it.

That couldn’t happen here with the Auckland harbor bridge?
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March 27, 2024 8:22am
- Simon
  
  “That couldn’t happen here with the Auckland harbor bridge?”
  
  Normal cargo ship would have to way off course. The Navy & sugar refinery have reasonable sized vessels that go past but thats about it. Then just smaller ferry boats.
  
  Anyway Akl habour bridge was build when NZ was a first world country. It would be fine.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:16am
  - jkt
    
    I am sure they are checking as we speak.
    A wake up call should always be heeded.
    
    That is why it is so important to review our covid pandemic response.
    
    And risks to terrorist attacks after the Moscow tragedy should also be reviewed as a priority and with some urgency.
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:45am
- Kiwiguy
  
  I doubt it. I don’t know of any vessels remotely near that size that go under the Ak harbour bridge.
  Any large ships coming into Ak are already travelling very slowly by the time they come into harbour.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:29am
  - NoCash
    
    The Dali was traveling at 8 knots only or about 15kph, a large container ship still packs a big punch even at very slow speed.
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Waka Coathanger will get some expert to look into it.
  The Auckland Harbour Bridge pylons are hollow. Some used as sewage storage, so a friend who did maintenance underneath told me.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:47am
- pdm
  
  Rusty do Container Ships go under the Auckland Harbour Bridge?
  
  There was the `daredevil’ who flew his plane under it many years ago.
  
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  March 27, 2024 10:02am
  - OlderChas
    
    Captain Fred’s last flight before retirement IIRC. Take my license – who cares now?! A real character.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:41am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Container ships do not go under the bridge.
    Sugar ships go under to Chelsea.
    
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    March 27, 2024 1:54pm
cmm

Three days after Gizzy and still nobody has called for semi-automatic 21st parties to be banned. Slipping.

#GizzyCall
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March 27, 2024 8:32am
- Simon
  
  The check is. Would the new proposed nanny law effect normal lawful people or the gangs?
  
  If its the gangs the proposal ends. Anything controlling lawful people is enforced.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:39am
- pdm
  
  cmm – it must have been a semi automatic knife if 5 people were stabbed.
  
  Or is that just a total of those killed and injured and not all were stabbed?
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:56am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    4 were stabbed.
    The 2 who were killed and the 2 who remain in hospital.
    The 5th individual was assaulted…and he was arrested yesterday when he was discharged from hospital.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:15am
softail 1450

MP ,The ship was entirely in control of port of Baltimore pilots apparently,that of course doesn’t discount treachery or terrorists or even the CIA 😂
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March 27, 2024 8:33am
- MCōs
  
  Or covid vaccines
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:55am
- jkt
  
  False flag?
  
  Looks like something that Dr. Evil would do.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:59am
- Simon
  
  “The ship was entirely in control of port of Baltimore pilots ”
  
  lol
  
  “Literally a week ago, the Port of Baltimore put out a video for Women’s History Month which celebrated Women breaking into the “Male Dominated field of Piloting”
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtO0Dtq0_LM
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:21am
  - softail 1450
    
    Simon , Oh no what are you inferring , have you forgotten Dame Ardern ? “she’s young ,attractive ,dynamic and intensely intellectual” , said 95 % of the country’s media clowns.
    
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    March 27, 2024 4:02pm
- cmm
  
  If the engine had failed then it would be mainly in control of the tidal flow.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:23am
Maggy Wassilieff

All power to Brian Henry

“On the previous government’s watch, the government and officials involved have enabled the continuation of the entrapment of those born into the community, a community that the police have now demonstrated has bred and will continue to breed males who commit serious sexual abuse, serious criminal offending against vulnerable young females.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/512758/government-agencies-accused-of-allowing-abuse-at-gloriavale-to-continue
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March 27, 2024 8:34am
- JimBobJoe
  
  till I saw Gloriavale in the link text, I thought Henry was talking about Kati, Wainuiomata, Taita, Mangere, etc etc…
  
  Why not the same focus on dysfunctional,multi-generational gang families. They are cults as well, full of violence and sexual abuse… But the media report them as misunderstood boys
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:41am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Why not the same focus on dysfunctional,multi-generational gang families.
    
    And much like Gloriavale, our criminal thugs have learnt to exploit our social welfare system.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:21am
    - Jack5
      
      The Woke are hot to shut down Gloriavale.
      
      Gloriavale’s leaders could save it by declaring it an LGBTQ-safe, multicultural community with fully dual languages – Maori and English.
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:39am
- cmm
  
  I really don’t feel so much for these “vulnerable young females”. How vulnerable are they really?
  
  Sure, rape etc should not be happening. But they do. And they are most likely to happen in high risk environments, (places, situations and people). If the vulnerable young females plugged in some common sense and avoided these high risk environments then well over 90% of these events would not happen.
  
  As for the “serious criminal offending” other than rape, judging from the fights you see on social media, young women face more danger from other violent thuggish young women than from men.
  
  In my youth avoiding high risk situations was called “being sensible”.
  
  I am far more worried about the way they treat the kids who have no choice in the matter.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:44am
  - MCōs
    
    “How vulnerable are they really?”
    In the case of Gloriavale – 100%
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:01am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    How vulnerable are they really?
    
    You haven’t been paying attention to this issue, have you?
    
    They are as vulnerable as a bunny in a cage of pig dogs.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/133371627/major-gloriavale-investigation-finds-138-potential-abuse-victims-dozens-of-suspected-offenders
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:32am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Some men in Gloriavale have been raping little girls and boys for 30 years.
    
    The leaders know… they’ve either been convicted of sexual abuse (Neville Cooper) or are awaiting charges (Howard Temple).
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:55am
    - lifesgood
      
      It beggars belief what has gone on there. Fancy making small children watch their parents having sex. If you are born there you have no choice. It is horrific and why has it been allowed to continue and why was Neville Cooper allowed to live back there after serving a tiny part of his sentence for sexual abuse? And how many other men are involved in this whole scale sexual abuse but haven’t been nabbed yet? The women interviewed said it was most men. Gloriavale needs to be closed down forthwith. It is no better than Centrepoint.
      
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      March 27, 2024 11:14am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Centerpoint. Hope that creep Bert Potter suffered, the dirty mongrel.
        
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        March 27, 2024 1:59pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      And spare a thought for the five or six girls exported to Gloriavale India to take Indian husbands and breed like rabbits. Looked a moderately dingy kind of place.
      
      I thought the visiting sister held up very well.
      
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      March 27, 2024 2:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump’s Lawyer blasts Letitia James.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-blasts-letitia-james-after-bond-cut-to-175m/ss-BB1kybGa#image=6
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March 27, 2024 8:35am
- jkt
  
  Well …. that was unexpected!
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:02am
  - sherp
    
    Not to those of us who are aware of the 8th amendment…. but hey some people have issues taking onn new info
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:47am
    - jkt
      
      Cruelty!!
      You can be glad you live in NZ……especially…
      Now that I know what my protection under the 8th Amendment is if I was an America … be careful.
      The moderator has already called you for cruelty.
      
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      March 27, 2024 11:52am
Surely Knott

Maori Newshub presenter slams African artist for painting a picture of her with her moko kauae.

She says “Dude, you’re charging $1200 for a picture you painted of me. You’re from Africa. You’ve been in Aotearoa 5 minutes and assumed it’s okay to take a complete strangers face and make money off it.”.

Questions: Wasn’t the older white woman in Christchurch shopping at the lipstick counter slammed in media and charged by police for saying “Don’t worry she’ll be going home soon” to a middle eastern woman. How is saying dude you’ve only been here 5 minutes different?

Taking a complete strangers face with a moko and making money off it is not ok, but Drag is being celebrated at the local library. How are they different?

The artist says “Moko tattoos have always inspired me as i have numerous tattoos myself…this is a tribute to my new home, rugby, tattoos and the deep spiritual connections…etc.”
Sounds like he is identifying with Moko. I mean if he identifies it’s cool isn’t it.

Is Oriini a MERF? A Maori Exclusionary Radical. Or is it only Gender that has to be inclusive.

Then I saw the artist’s profile and saw he was African but white and now i know why he’s getting slammed.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/former-newshub-presenter-oriini-kaipara-hits-out-at-artist-for-selling-painting-depicting-herself-without-permission/IQTRIFEHKJDYXNNWM2U7DCT3OE/
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March 27, 2024 8:38am
- Ghost
  
  So in your world it is perfectly fine for someone to paint you, sell that painting without even getting your permission. Weird.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:47am
  - cmm
    
    No, that is not the point being made.
    
    The Maori newsbub presenter is not bitching about privacy issues but (ie. her likeness being used), but is bitching about cultural appropriation – an entirely different issue.
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:57am
    - kowtow
      
      yer but she’s now got some big job with the NZ Olympic quango .
      
      I hope there’s no Greeks out there who might object to the Maorification of their body worship cult which no doubt would have frowned on or downright condemned tattoos …….
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:06am
  - jkt
    
    Koha would have settled this matter?
    
    In some cultures Koha is considered a bribe or extortion. In Maori culture it is said to be a gift. In Pakeha culture it is buying favour.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:13am
    - julesnzuk
      
      What the hell is “Pakeha culture”? You can just say “Western culture” (which covers it) or (if you want to be more specific) “New Zealand culture”. If you want to be specific re ethnicity you can say “New Zealand European culture”.
      
      I ain’t no “pakeha” and I’m sick to the back teeth of my heritage and culture being denigrated by a reductive, made-up label.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:44pm
      - Ghost
        
        If someone wants to be called or use phakea that is up to them. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean others should feel the same way.
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:50pm
      - wsk12345
        
        When I was young and first found out that there were multiple races – I was about 10 and went to a school that was 50:50 Maori:white but didn’t think anything of skin colour – I learned the word pakeha. Back then it meant Foreigner or Pig.
        
        I will not be called either thanks.
        
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        March 27, 2024 1:39pm
      - jkt
        
        Seems like the shoe fits!
        What wsk12345 says resonates with me.
        
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        March 27, 2024 3:54pm
      - julesnzuk
        
        Ghost – you’ve failed to understand my point. The commenter referred to something called “pakeha culture”, thus implying that there is a culture much wider than him or herself called “pakeha”. If Europeans subscribe to this crap then they are a big part of the problem.
        
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        March 28, 2024 12:22am
      - Ghost
        
        I get your point, it’s not up to you what people want to use as terms. If you don’t like it that is your decision, don’t use it. But if people want to use the term that is up them, not up to you tell them to stop using it. It’s your arrogance that makes you think you have a right to tell people to not use a term.
        
        I couldn’t give a fuck if someone calls me a pakeha, but then again I’m not some racist twit that gets their knickers in a twist over the word.
        
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        March 28, 2024 12:48am
      - julesnzuk
        
        Ghost, no – just a twit. And now you’re weaponising the word “racist” (I don’t even know how or why you brought racism into it). I can’t stop people using the word “pakeha” but I can express my disdain for it and I can also respectfully request they do not use it to describe my culture. I certainly won’t be shut down or silenced by the likes of you.
        
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        March 28, 2024 2:32am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Genuine question: How is it different to a photographer taking a picture of you in public and selling it?
    
    Im sure based on what youve said it is, but how? Still no permission needed I believe.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:14am
    - Ghost
      
      he has taken someone else’s work, an artists photo of her and turned it into a painting.
      
      Here is the photo he has used
      
      https://www.artselemental.com/?pgid=ipqz6c8u-7959fe1a-a68c-4129-b656-9deaa5193d60
      
      Oriini Owns the rights to the photo and has a copyright on the photo.
      
      And looking at the photo elsewhere
      
      He has taken someone else’s work and reproduced it without permission
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:09am
      - Jack5
        
        It’s a fine photograph that you link to, Ghost. That would be worth buying. Assuming it is a photograph and not a realistic painting based on some undisclosed photograph.
        
        This is a taste of what will be big issue as cheap artificial intelligence programs allow production of highly realistic copies of art work.
        
        You will need to be an expert to tell what is original.
        
        The fine-picture you link to, Ghost, lists Turumakina Duley as the copyright owner. He is a tattooist on the Australian Gold Coast who specialises in Maori work.
        
        Isn’t the position that the photographer (or photographer’s employer) owns the copyright, unless the subject commissioned the photograph?
        
        The picture you link to Ghost, suggests Duley commissioned the source photograph, or he or an employee or associate, took it.
        
        An issue is whether you restricted from making an artistic copy or interpretation if you acknowledge both that it is that and identify your source?
        
        Regardless, copyright problems and woe are coming for Maori art from artificial intelligence.
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:20am
      - Ghost
        
        Here is her Photo
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:42pm
      - jkt
        
        No harm no foul.
        If the aggrieved feels there was harm then sue him.
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:57am
      - Local Miller
        
        But that’s not what they are complaining about (copy of a photograph), and I doubt copying the photo would be considered illegal. The artist isn’t trying to pass his work off as the original, so there’s no forgery being committed. As someone else said, the original photo was used as a reference, which is not that unusual in the art world. I will admit as the husband of an artist that it’s bad practice to use a photo covered by copy right (if these even are covered) without making significant changes so the original and the “copy” are significantly different, but I doubt its illegal in this situation.
        The complaint is specifically about painting her without permission, NOT about copying the photo.
        I agree however that the artist is wrong to have painted someone without permission. This would be the same as an photographer selling recognisable photos of people without permission.
        
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        March 27, 2024 2:53pm
  - Cassandra
    
    The Herald printed my photo without my permission. It also used my name and refuses to take down the article. On the grounds that you don’t argue with people who buy ink by the barrel I can do nothing other than mutter. I don’t know how the artist got her likeness to paint but you don’t appear to have copyright over your face.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:27am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      There are many, many circumstances where it is entirely unnecessary for the media to have your permission to post your photo with your name. Without more information from you it not possible to know whether it met one of those circumstances.
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:10am
      - jkt
        
        Go see your lawyer.
        That is how Americans deal with this.
        
        Or if you can intimidate, threaten, shame or whatever cancellation tactic you can think of employ or deploy them. Or get the mob to do it on your behalf.
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:02pm
      - Jack5
        
        Cassandra’s “my photo”.
        
        Do you mean yours in the sense that you are in the photograph, or yours in the sense that you created the photograph?
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:53pm
      - Cassandra
        
        The Herald is entitled to print my name and my picture. Whether or not they should be printed is another matter. – I think that the Herald is promoting a falsehood about me but its editor disagrees. My point is that you don’t have copyright over your image. I can paint what I think you look like and then sell the painting. I doubt that I can call it “Portrait of Wayne Mapp” without Wayne’s permission but I could call it something else I suppose – Portrait of a Genius? Portrait of a Map?
        
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        March 27, 2024 2:16pm
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    In the actual world that is perfectly fine. Painters and photographers routinely create images of public figures without asking them.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:30am
    - Ghost
      
      She has a copyright on the photo he has copied
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:23am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        He didn’t copy the photo. A painting, by definition, cannot be a copy of a photo. He created a new work using the photo as inspiration.
        
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        March 27, 2024 10:32am
      - Ghost
        
        He did copy the photo, he made no changes, so it would fall under derivative work. He needs her permission
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:09pm
  - Inandout
    
    Ghost, did any churches ask Jesus for permission?
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:43am
    - Ghost
      
      Is Jesus alive with a copyright on the photo that he directly copied?
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:10pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Did Bill Clinton give permission to the artist that painted him in a dress, that Epstein hung up in his house? This unfortunately is not a rare thing to happen to people who put their faces out there.
    Yes, it is rude and inappropriate but not against the law.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:13am
    - Ghost
      
      Was there a copyright photo of Bill in a dress. This artist has copied exactly someone else’s work
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:18am
  - Surely Knott
    
    A good question. I’m not a lawyer. But this is my understanding based on the reading.
    
    Can you photograph/paint a picture of someone without their permission. Yes.
    
    The NZ CAB says, “If you are taking a photograph for commercial purposes (for example, to use in an advertisement) and the person can be identified in the photo, you will have to comply with the Privacy Act.
    
    You should ask the person for their permission, and tell them who you are and how you will use the photo.”
    
    But then did the person who painted Ardern and Trumps likeness on an orange, seek the permission of both parties? What about the Bloomfield t towels?
    
    But the article’s focus was on her race and her Moko. And the question I was really framing is that why is sex and gender appropriation celebrated, but ethnic and racial appropriation taboo.
    
    Artwork of Ardern and Trump’s face on an Orange sold on Trademe.
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/09/artwork-of-jacinda-ardern-and-terrible-orange-donald-trump-up-for-grabs-on-trade-me.html
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:02am
    - Ghost
      
      You can be accused of copyright infringement if your new work is substantially similar to the work that either inspired you, and if you’ve used identifiable elements from that work.
      
      If something is “substantially similar” – if it doesn’t contain new analysis, or a new message, or significant changes from the original work – then that’s a derivative. Making derivatives is something only the original copyright owner is legally allowed to do.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:17pm
- jkt
  
  Well reasoned comment.
  Cultural celebration is another person’s misappropriation of culture.
  
  Outrage society! “My Precious, my precious!” Gollum.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:07am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    I think it’s making of money the offended one has taken so much offence to surprisingly.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:08am
    - jkt
      
      Then sue the perp. Get compensation and a conviction. That will teach the perp a lesson.
      
      Good warning for all those out there that think of copying stuff.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:09pm
- thirteenstars
  
  “Taking a complete strangers face with a moko and making money off it is not ok…”
  
  It is, of course, perfectly OK. She’s a public figure and anyone is free to draw her likeness and sell it.
  
  Anyone is free to go out on the street and take photos of anything and anyone and sell it. Media of all types do it every day. Cartoonists and illustrators do it. No permission is needed.
  
  Kaipara’s another precious, offense-taking activist trying to claim her Maori identity deserves some special treatment.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:09am
  - jkt
    
    Copyright infringement is a thing. I am also unconvinced that one can copyright your face or body.
    
    But using the image of someone to make money without the permission of the owner of the image is surely a crime of some sort.
    Go see a copyright lawyer.
    
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    March 27, 2024 12:15pm
  - Ghost
    
    No it’s not OK. She owns the copyright to that photo. The painting is a direct copy of the photos
    
    You can be accused of copyright infringement if your new work is substantially similar to the work that either inspired you, and if you’ve used identifiable elements from that work.
    
    If something is “substantially similar” – if it doesn’t contain new analysis, or a new message, or significant changes from the original work – then that’s a derivative. Making derivatives is something only the original copyright owner is legally allowed to do.
    
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    March 27, 2024 12:21pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So Orini Kaipara is on TV presenting videos and photos of people from all over the World, but she does not want her image used.
  Hypocrite!!
  
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  March 27, 2024 2:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Gag order against Trump ahead of Stormy Daniels trial.
Gold digging hooker.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/nyc-judge-issues-gag-order-192300375.html#
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March 27, 2024 8:40am
- jkt
  
  Is there another type?
  
  Note: Sex work is now a lawful enterprise.
  
  Paying hush money with or without a confidentiality agreement to gain an advantage is not ethical and is even considered unlawful in America.
  
  Whistleblowing is lawful but gets punished and is celebrated.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    If Trump was just developer Trump and not political, Stormy Daniels would be nothing.
    It is a game the Dems play. They must stop Trump at all costs or he will take their binky away.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:11am
    - Jack5
      
      jkt’s ” … Sex work is now a lawful enterprise.”
      
      But not in most states of the USA:
      
      https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Prostitution.htm
      
      And NZ and Australia are among the few countries where the trade is legal (map in this link):
      
      https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:21am
      - jkt
        
        The frequency of their liaisons suggests one or both of them committed crimes in multiple states. I can see the democratic lawyers hurling themselves at this opportunity to criminalise Trump.
        
        The crime under consideration is paying hush money and using funds that could not be appropriated for that purpose.
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:20pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘The frequency of their liaisons’
        
        I thought it was only once? Got a Citation to back up the frequency part?
        Isnt the trial about Campaign Finance violations?
        Not the Agreement to say nothing- which Daniels broke and ended up owing Trump money.
        
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        March 27, 2024 1:39pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Note: Sex work is now a lawful enterprise.’
    
    In Germany it is .
    
    The wokesters there passed a law forcing all businesses to hire apprentices .
    
    Till someone pointed out the sex industry .
    
    “Ach zo , for zis zer must be ein exemption”
    
    Hypocrites.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:21am
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    The issue isn’t that he paid hush money, it’s that he used the wrong money for it
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:16am
    - jkt
      
      You mean he is stupid.
      Or he just trusted that his lawyer would not frame him.
      
      I guess it must be the latter. It is a pretty good defence. The judge who prosecuted his lawyer sent the lawyer to prison for the fraud. He also found that Person 1 and the lawyer conspired….. oops. Not that good a defence, then?
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:26pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Cohen paid it and then deducted it from the Retainer/Fees Trump paid him
      Its another stretch to get Trump and will fail- well so says a number of legal minds better than me
      Plenty of stuff on the interweb about this
      
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      March 27, 2024 1:47pm
mandk

I emailed the Gisborne Mayor yesterday to point out that the rainbow crossing she said had been vandalised by the Destiny Church people had no legal standing as a pedestrian crossing. She also said that the rainbow crossing would be reinstated.

I also advised her that, if some unwitting pedestrian got hit by a car on a rainbow crossing, her Council could be held responsible.

I’ll let KBers know if I get a response.
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March 27, 2024 8:46am
- thirteenstars
  
  Good for you. As I said yesterday, if you can legally paint a rainbow crossing you can rearrange the colours on the traffic lights.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Up here nobody takes any notice of tragic lights. Green = go. Amber = the light will change to red. Red = stop if you can safely.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:16am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Rainbow traffic lights!
    
    Seven colours, and the middle one means Go.
    
    Imagine the carnage…
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:22am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Don’t encourage them. These people are FITH.
      
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      March 27, 2024 11:22am
- kowtow
  
  Well done.
  
  Road safety must always be the priority , not virtue signalling.
  
  And no doubt reinstating it will cost a small fortune , while they have more pressing priorities , or don’t they ?
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:29am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Probably cost $200 to paint white, but it will cost $1.2M to reinstate it.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:17am
- Ruawai
  
  I was thinking the same thing yesterday when Council said the whiting out of the crossing had made it unsafe, surely a rainbow crossing is also not adhering to safety guidelines for a pedestrian crossing, regardless of your thoughts on rainbows, pedestrian crossings should not be used as a political point scorer they are are safety issue. Next there will be rainbow cones, which would actually make a nice change from all the orange ones.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Stop giving the loons ideas.
    Rainbow cones? Bugger that.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:19am
    - wsk12345
      
      imagine all the employment gains to make sure the cones were put in the right order!
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:51am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Do the colours have some sort of order that is a code?
        If the order changes does that mean something different.
        Just remember, these are people who don’t know which toilet to use.
        
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        March 27, 2024 2:12pm
- MCōs
  
  What is the legal requirement for pedestrian crossing markings on the road?
  
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  March 27, 2024 10:17am
  - wsk12345
    
    for a white/zebra crossing you must stop. The rainbow one has no status as a legal pedestrian crossing so if a driver didn’t stop and hit someone, I don’t imagine they can be charged.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:52am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Correct, but the woke council that replaced the legal crossing with an illegal one sure as hell can be.
      
      We see in this how the sausage gets made. Illegality is fine as long as it’s for the right cause. Deface Te Papa’s TOW exhibit and the museum simply removes the English version and leaves the Maori, which was the intention all along. Would the Maori have been removed if it had been defaced? Like hell. Destiny removes an illegal crossing and the council promises to replace it with a new illegal rainbow crossing. This story is primetime news so where’s NZTA? Where’s WorkSafe? Hell, where’s the concern from the cops who have to enforce the road rules?
      
      Same shit, different place.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:22pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        The TOW Maori version is fine if it is a translation of the Littlewood Draft (original English version)
        If the Maori version is a translation of the rogue James Freeman Waitangi Tribunal version (now being used post 1975), then it is a rogue translation.
        
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        March 27, 2024 2:18pm
    - Ian
      
      Correct, but the diamond well before the crossing in law means that a pedestrian may not cross if a vehicle is between the diamond and a crossing. Which begs the point of all these new combined pedestrian/cycle crossings (the cycle part in green). There is a Give Way JUST before the crossing instructing to give way to pedestrians and cyclists. So what in law takes precedence – the Give Way sign or the diamond (for pedestrians). Must check this one out….
      
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      March 27, 2024 3:30pm
  - mandk
    
    I commented on this point yesterday.
    
    This is what I said:
    I checked on Copilot to see if road vehicles are obliged to stop at rainbow crossings and this is what it said:
    “In New Zealand, rainbow crossings are not officially recognized as standard road markings. Therefore, road vehicles are not specifically obliged to stop at them.”
    
    I also asked whether road vehicles were obliged to stop at zebra crossings, and Copilot said:
    “All motorists are required to stop at zebra crossings when a pedestrian is on or waiting to cross.”
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:15am
    - MCōs
      
      Winston probably asked Copilot if he could use Tubthumping at his rallies
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:46pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      There are not a lot of rainbow zebras on this planet.
      
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      March 27, 2024 2:20pm
artemisia

$16,000 trollies of groceries walking out the door of an Auckland supermarket. That was bold, and no doubt there were some very surprised alleged perps at being caught. This time.

Talking about groceries, there were rumours flying about as to whether ‘shrinkage’ at the closed down Flaxmere supermarket was a factor in shutting the doors.
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March 27, 2024 8:46am
- cmm
  
  Of course it will be a factor in the overall profitability and thus will be a contributor to the viability equation. The question is not whether it contributed, but how much.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:53am
- kowtow
  
  When the Cops decided to stop doing their duty and not responding to “minor” crime they really didn’t think it through .
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:30am
- Taieri
  
  $16,000 trollies of groceries walking out the door of an Auckland supermarket.
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  Must have been a very big trolleys to contain $16K worth of groceries. What did they steal, a diamond crusted sausages?
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:36am
  - artemisia
    
    Ever looked at the size and prices in the makeup and skincare aisle? Add the terakihi, salmon and fillet steak. Still for $16K it would be a carefully structured shopping list, quite likely items as ordered.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:24am
    - Taieri
      
      Ever looked at the size and prices in the makeup and skincare aisle?
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      Being a stale, pale, old male I don’t take much interest in the make up and skincare aisle, but I get your point:)
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:36am
      - rjay
        
        The kids at Hastings library would know
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:08am
      - artemisia
        
        Heh, have a look next time you are shopping Taieri. Bear in mind supermarket stocked products are at the low end. Be suitably amazed.
        
        Not in the supermarket (fortunately) but you can buy Creme de la Mer for your face at only $2400 for 250g. Bargain.
        
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        March 27, 2024 11:11am
- imalwaysright
  
  When I read that you can get $16,000 dollars worth of groceries into just six trolleys I wondered who is robbing who?
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:51am
  - greybeard
    
    Lots of whole fillet steak, booze, expensive cheeses, wagyu beef, it soon adds up.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:19am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Just local produce then?!
      
      All of our farmers and food producers must be multisquillionaires !!!
      
      Yeah right…
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:30am
  - kowtow
    
    Makes you wonder.
    
    The wokesters/media want us to think it’s poverty/climate change/cost of living crisis ‘causing’ this crime wave.
    
    Sounds to me that it’s organised crime and they’ll be selling this stuff on the black market .
    
    Would it be too much to ask to of te legacy media paahti to do a proper follow up story if and when there’s a conviction.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:27am
  - Colville
    
    $16k/6 – $2660 each. even at $50/kg steak that you be 20 whole eye fillets or 130 1kg packs of good bacon.
    Just not possible.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:28am
- MCōs
  
  Should have gone to Pak n Sav
  Would have been $10k
  
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  March 27, 2024 10:19am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Mcos ,
    I’m afraid you are misguided.
    If they robbed Pak’n’Save they would have needed to steal 10 trolleys full of gear.
    This is the benefit of the free market. Its all about efficiency.
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:39am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Supermarket staff and security can not stop them (assault), but the public can.
  One of the reasons the prices are high is the losses supermarkets have to pass on.
  Never mind the gouging shit, that is another subject.
  So, if you see it, grab 4 guys to help and just stop them. These bastards are cunning. I saw a robbery at Countdown Glenfield. Grabbed a guy and said I will get the trolley and you get him away. Out in the carpark the thief had taken off his jacket and hat and sunnies. Gone!
  
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  March 27, 2024 2:35pm
cmm

Tova is either being massively naive or deliberately disingenuous in her claim that “‘Very good friends’ don’t attack, hack and spy on their mates”.

Of course they do. And as a “journalist” she surely knows this.

How many leaks and political back stabbings has she participated in? I would expect it probably runs to hundreds.

Historically, everyone spies on each other – friend or foe. 5 eyes is not tracking animals in the bush with radio collars.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350226898/tova-obrien-very-good-friends-dont-attack-hack-and-spy-their-mates
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March 27, 2024 8:51am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes she is ridiculous. Spying is the second oldest profession. I honestly wonder how she holds her job.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:13am
  - Don Beckett
    
    She’s not good enough for the oldest profession ?
    
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    March 27, 2024 11:50am
    - cmm
      
      You can have my share.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:37pm
    - grumpy
      
      “Only Fans” coming to a screen near you…….
      
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      March 27, 2024 4:02pm
  - cmm
    
    “I honestly wonder how she holds her job.”
    
    I expect Tova has been a spy herself, taking information given to her in confidence and relaying it to Cindy etc.
    
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    March 27, 2024 12:37pm
- jkt
  
  Not naive.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:24am
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  To be fair, journalists don’t write the headlines to their articles. And this particular headline does not represent the article very well at all.
  It’s a poor reflection on the editorial function at Stuff though. SNAFU.
  
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  March 27, 2024 11:12am
- peterwn
  
  That was the British Government’s attitude when it dismantled counter-espionage and codebreaking capability after WW1 – ‘gentlemen do not read each others mail’. This was after the Brits had cracked the Zimmerman telegram which led to USA joining the Brits against the Germans. Also the Brits did not want people to know that they had cracked that particular code. Fortunately the German Embassy in Washington DC had on-transmitted the Telegram to its other embassies in middle – south America using a second tier code which the Brits had also cracked. So the Brits let it be known that it was one of these on-transmissions they had decoded. The Germans still believed that their top level code remained secure.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:47pm
Maggie Pie

The recent Boeing maintenance fiasco, (and even the Baltimore bridge collapse this morning), has reminded me about issuing a WARNING to family and friends, who may be attending this years ‘Easter Show’.

Whatever you do, think twice before going on any of the big Rides.
These days, you need only LOOK at the types of people employed to operate/maintain them, and then ask yourself….. “is that the sort of person I would want to trust my life with?”

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1769856650150555700
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March 27, 2024 8:52am
- cmm
  
  The common element in both rides and bridges is that they are designed to be self supporting structures that are exposed to stresses at selected points.
  
  When the stresses happen in unexpected places then the whole structure fails.
  
  There’s a saying in engineering: “Engineering is the art of compromise.”
  
  Engineers need to weigh up safety vs cost vs convenience vs a myriad of other factors. If we just focused on safety you couldn’t afford it.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:10am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Despite the Boeing shenanigans, fortunately commercial aviation remains incredibly safe.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:16am
    - cmm
      
      So are bridges.
      
      Despite the odd bridge that falls down, they are still much safer than what passes for bridges in Africa etc.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:42pm
  - softail 1450
    
    CMM, The definition of an elephant is “a small mouse designed by a health and safety panel of experts”.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:28am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yep, and a camel is a horse designed by a committee.
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:26am
  - jkt
    
    Cause of many nightmares.
    One needs to be a bit of a psychopath to be a structural engineer.
    I put that behind me at age 33 and focussed on environmental engineering.
    
    I am a recovered progressive. The only thing that I still share with progressives is that I look after my own interest.
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:28am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Was the environmental engineering the cleaning up of the results of the structural engineering ?
      
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      March 27, 2024 9:56am
      - jkt
        
        Twice.
        Roof collapse resulting from reversal of loads and inadequate temporary bracing.
        Other one was caused by corrosion resulting from inadequate cover over steel reinforcing.
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:31pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Jkt,
        
        My condolences,
        Appreciate your honesty.
        
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        March 27, 2024 12:53pm
- greybeard
  
  The bridge didn’t “collapse”: it was rammed by a bloody big ship, for whatever reason.
  Please try for some sort of accuracy.
  
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  March 27, 2024 6:00pm
Paul

The new Pullman Hotel Auckland Airport. 13 December 2023
Tainui Group Holdings and Auckland Airport just brought their $200 million project, the Te Arikinui Pullman Auckland Airport Hotel, to a close.
The hotel, located 100 metres from the airport’s international terminal, officially opened its doors on December 12 after four years of construction.
Tukoroirangi Morgan, chair of the executive committee of Waikato-Tainui, said the completion of the 311-room five-star hotel expressed the significance of this location to the iwi.
“Everything from the chiefly name of this hotel to its three-pointed star shape and the unique cultural designs, express the mauri (essence) of this important site for Waikato.”
Review. BONG! The $50 daily Valet Parking charge for my own vehicle 6 day stay adds up, I was not expecting that, after paying $420 a night.
Quiet rooms. Much less crappy advertising material in the room than the same price Novotel next door. Clean and simple beige Iron and white Marble room architecture.
No swimming Pool, this is New Zealand. Gym is perfect.
Surprisingly cheap room service menu, $42 for a Sirloin Steak cheaper than getting an UBER Delivery. Cooked properly, good smokey fresh Kumara chips.
Too much Maori language around the place, it is getting boring. What is the point, nobody reads it. Nobody.
The Wining and Dining Room Service Menu has large Maori Language Titles, even a whole page in Maori, with tiny English subtitles, as if staying and paying at this Hotel is simply an adjunct to the symbolism of what can only be described as a Mighty Tainui Waratah planted as a territorial right of claim straight through the heart of Auckland Iwi Ngāti Whātua, Kawerau a Maki, Tainui, Ngāti Pāoa, Wai-O-Hua and Ngāti Rehua.
I called Room Service, got a call back, the dreaded New Zealand blowback “We’re ACTUALLY REALLY BUSY RIGHT NOW, it will take longer than an hour”.
The Hotel is less than half full and is obviously running at a loss for the Waikato Owners, so short staffed to save money, more likely.
I hope that the Owner’s are aware that giving mates rates to Hapu and Whanau will be the demise of this Hotel in short order, as Government spending is drying up fast.
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March 27, 2024 8:52am
- Flossie
  
  Am I right in saying check in is after 2pm? Not really helpful when you arrive at 5am after a long international flight.
  Maybe I just got the wrong end of the stick.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:53am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Just be thankful it wasn’t a short international flight.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:36am
  - grumpy
    
    They just charge you an extra night.
    
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    March 27, 2024 4:16pm
  - Paul
    
    Plenty of swinging Bones and Rocks wining and dining in this place, everything on the Menu seems Flame Grilled. Thousands of Construction employees everywhere, hectares of developments West of the airport with Coal Mine size Tipper Trucks, next to the Bales of hay on a field.
    The airport and this construction is all about clipping the ticket on arrivals in both directions, a huge cash cow, case in point the IBIS Budget 2 star is $196 a night. Time to buy some shares?, as landing charges roll up to $47 per head over the next few years. Remember when GrabASeat cost that much?
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:18pm
pdm

`These days, you need only LOOK at the types of people employed to operate/maintain them, and then ask yourself….. “is that the sort of person I would want to trust my life with?”;

Been the case ever since I was a teenager Maggy and I turn 78 in a couple of weeks. There were some dodgy looking people hanging round and operating the sideshows since forever.

As an example 3 mates and I headed down to the river at Waipukurau with a few flagons the night before showday in 1964 only to be met by the local Sergeant and a constable. We received a lecture and were told to get out of it – thankfully as 3 of us were still at High School.

Turns out they were looking for a guy from the sideshows who had tried to rape a local girl the night before.
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March 27, 2024 9:07am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Even my gran used to warn me about them 40 years ago.
  I only ever go for the Claw-Cranes and Candy Floss.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:15am
  - imalwaysright
    
    If you come across a Candyfloss Claw Crane don’t waste your money…
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:39am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Bird Flu detected in cows milk.

Best get the pink terror onto it.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/health/other/bird-flu-now-detected-in-cow-s-milk-as-as-virus-edges-closer-to-humans/ss-BB1kzhLg#image=6
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March 27, 2024 9:10am
- pdm
  
  Steve the awful Michael Baker got a mention earlier this morning.
  
  Has he he emerged from obscurity knowing this was going to be publicised today?
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He is a publicity junkie.
    
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    March 27, 2024 10:33am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Why do they all speak like small children. Hendy, Wiles and Baker all do baby talk.
      Issues?
      
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      March 27, 2024 11:45am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        They got academic qualifications, but not ‘growing up in the real World’ qualifications.
        Never got past puberty.
        
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        March 27, 2024 2:43pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Yo Steve. Always good to hear some real world stuff from a man with 40 years of welding up boat trailers. So what’s your take on bird flu anyway?
        
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        March 27, 2024 3:07pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Ian, I did a lot more than welding boat trailers. There was heavy boat haulage as well.
        Then a lot of mechanical/electrical stuff.
        How many people do you know who can set the toe and heel in a differential using engineer’s blue? I can. What about automatic gearboxes? My mechanical knowledge is very extensive.
        Oh it was 50 years. I started in 1973 on $1.35 an hour!
        
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        March 28, 2024 7:57am
rangitoto

One of Lavrov’s bodyguards was identified in a video of the audience when the shooting started. Calmly walked out. Same guy arrested one of the perps. FSB collusion with the attack isn’t out of the question. Putin has form for this sort of thing.
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March 27, 2024 10:03am
Maggie Pie

And getting back to the Gweens rag ‘n’ bone man Steve Able for a mo.
Surely it was a piss-take when they made him their… Minister-for-Racing 😀

https://www.parliament.nz/en/mps-and-electorates/members-of-parliament/abel-steve/

Can you see him standing alongside Winston in the Ascot Stand at Ellerslie?
Looking like that he’d be lucky to get past security at the Main Gate!

SHEESH.
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March 27, 2024 10:28am
- rjay
  
  Spokesperson
  
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  March 27, 2024 11:13am
Warren

Will we ever know how much damage Labour and MeganWoods with the help of inept staff at Kainga Ora have done to the Housing situation in New Zealand.
For months they borrowed Billions after being told they were taking on to much debt and now we find out they are canceling several projects because they are not viable in the present situation and could lose thousands because of there of there own stupidity and over valued price that they payed for many developments.
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/03/26/debt-stricken-kainga-ora-pauses-big-public-housing-projects-sells-land/?gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_mJyK-dFh8G2pIMpig0H7zJr-nH04V6ZtCnQ26hlShF3NZLj7E8zI9KGJjjgt8%3D&gaa_ts=660349df&utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=discover&utm_campaign=CCwqGQgwKhAIACoHCAowsfOxCzC-jskDMO_l_gIw7oarAw&utm_content=bullets&gaa_sig=p7Wj9o17ja4SgAcAgjLW14DqkUta_3YzEqq7jUeCloEXaZZKjnYWc9Mahb67HBwMtKMt61-Vrfr7QutF8RQ67Q%3D%3D
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March 27, 2024 11:33am
- artemisia
  
  The Bill English KO report is due this week. KO management obviously know what’s coming their way.
  
  Maybe a KO blow?
  
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  March 27, 2024 12:28pm
  - Colville
    
    Done on the 25th.
    Evidently 2 weeks debrief before release.
    
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    March 27, 2024 1:29pm
BeaB

So drippy Ingrid Hipkiss allows the Labour ‘rainbow spokesman’ to take multiple free shots at National, blaming the Government, in effect, for the Destiny Church painting out the gaudy pedestrian crossing in Gisborne.
Is this the same Ingrid Hipkiss who immediately and sharply shuts down any comment by Government
ministers about the Labour six years of waste?
Then, helpfully, the news reader tells us the blame partly lies on the Nats ‘banning’ hate laws.
And RNZ expects us to believe they are not biased!
Pull the other one.
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March 27, 2024 11:37am
- MCōs
  
  I’m always perplexed why people listen to radio programmes, or watch TV shows for that matter, they clearly detest?
  
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  March 27, 2024 12:56pm
  - Nukuleka
    
    I’m equally perplexed why folk read blogs like Kiwiblog, which they clearly detest, MCōs.
    
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    March 27, 2024 5:09pm
  - Paul
    
    Yet you are not perplexed in your home on Kiwiblog?
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer ring a bell?
    
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    March 27, 2024 9:06pm
Swifty

Quite why hard-pressed New Zealand families should be forced to fund the cheese industry’s rebranding exercise is beyond me but clearly the industry spokesperson thinks they should:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/eu-trade-deal-industry-group-set-up-to-rename-some-nz-made-cheeses/OUL673AS5FFRLDBHDZM6AUCOZI/
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March 27, 2024 12:05pm
Jack5

Another example of how Labour abandoned the ordinary working people of NZ.

“Beautician” work has long been a job or career for young women (let’s be realistic) in NZ. Interesting work for young women who didn’t have desire for an academic-skills job, or whose family didn’t ave the money, to send them to university.

Labour lowered the skill provisions for immigration to let beautician-type workers come in.

We quickly have a huge number of tiny parlours in malls, suburban shopping strips, all run by immigrants, overwhelmingly from Asia. For many, families to follow them here.

And a career path is closed to hundreds, perhaps thousands, or moderate-skill NZ youngsters.
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March 27, 2024 12:17pm
Chuck Bird

The claim that, “Furthermore, counterarguments have been reported over the many years this subject has been debated.” is a lie.

Has anyone seen counterarguments against climate change alarmism in the Herald?

CASE NO: 3488
RULING BY THE NEW ZEALAND MEDIA COUNCIL ON THE COMPLAINT OF CHUCK BIRD AGAINST NZ HERALD
RULING: NO GROUNDS TO PROCEED
TO BE PUBLISHED ON MEDIA COUNCIL WEBSITE ON 2 APRIL 2024
This complaint was prompted by an article published by the NZ Herald on 5 January 2024 and
headlined Laura Gemmell: Climate Resolutions – how you can change the world. This was an opinion
piece offering advice on New Year’s resolutions that might help save the planet and warned that red
flags about climate change and biodiversity loss had been repeatedly dismissed as woke baloney.
Chuck Bird did not complain specifically about this story but used it as a basis for a broader argument
that there was lack of balance on climate change in articles and letters to the editor.
“I have followed climate change closely and read books from qualified climate scientists who accept
human emissions cause some global warming but do not believe that there is a climate emergency.”
He said he had asked a NZ Herald reporter if the NZ Herald would publish comment by an American
scientist who had written on the subject.
“I am not sure why the MSM [mainstream media] in New Zealand will not allow balance on the
subject. I hope it is not because of the government funding they received from the previous
government.”
The Herald responded that the article was clearly presented as opinion and was no requirement for it
to be balanced. It added that the NZ Media Council had regularly ruled that readers did not have the
right to be offended and that no one was forcing a reader to read the article, or the newspaper.
“The Herald’s editorial position is that there can be no doubt that human activity has and is
contributing to climate change. Naturally you are welcome to hold your own opinion, but we are
unlikely to provide a platform to anthropogenic climate change deniers.”
Publication of opinion articles was the prerogative of editors and readers could provide feedback on
articles via comments or letters to the editor.
The NZ Media Council concurs with the NZ Herald on this complaint. This was an opinion piece and
there was no requirement for the NZ Herald to run comment countering the now widely stated view,
which is adopted by governments, reputable scientific bodies and many publications – that human
activity is contributing to climate change. It is not the Media Council’s role to take a definitive position
on climate change and its causes and it welcomes articles that challenge assumptions, but it does not
interfere with editorial discretion on this topic. There are no proven factual inaccuracies. Furthermore, counterarguments have been reported over the many years this subject has been debated.
This complaint has not shown how the NZ Herald might have breached any Media Council principles
with this opinion piece or with its editorial stance on climate change.
Decision: There are no grounds to proceed.
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- peterwn
  
  Hey! You were given an advance copy as a courtesy. Should you not keep it to yourself until the decision is formally published?
  
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  March 27, 2024 2:16pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Why? The Media Council should do their job properly and not tell lies.
    
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    March 27, 2024 4:55pm
- I remember when
  
  ‘no one was forcing a reader to read the article, or the newspaper.”
  
  So they do understand the problem!
  
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  March 27, 2024 3:36pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING NOW.

Pricked up my ears early this morning when Hosk mentioned Prince Hazza’s name
in association with the allegations being levelled against American rapper …… ‘P. Diddy’

IF true, sounds like it could be even bigger than the Jeffery Epstein scandal 🙁

https://independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sean-diddy-combs-allegations-b2518917.html
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March 27, 2024 1:35pm
- MCōs
  
  Princes William & Harry met him once in 2007
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/26/prince-harry-named-sean-diddy-combs-sexual-assault-lawsuit/
  
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  March 27, 2024 6:41pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Thx for the link Cossie. Gives credence to the gossip.
    
    And wot you guys up to for Easter…. does your missus eat Easter Eggs?
    
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    March 27, 2024 7:13pm
    - Paul
      
      Easter Termite eggs.
      
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      March 27, 2024 10:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

TOW Propaganda Comic for high school kids Part 29.

“The subliminal message is, once again, that the British lied to Maori. That is to say, Maori were promised by the British that they would not ‘lose’ their land, but the British broke their promise and ‘stole’ Maori land.”
That is a lie that the kids (future voters) are being taught by this Comic.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-29/?
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March 27, 2024 1:35pm
- I remember when
  
  Time to read Gordon McLauchlan’s “A Short History of the New Zealand Wars.”
  
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  March 27, 2024 3:28pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Time for a glance at the stop co-governance website.
    
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    March 28, 2024 7:59am
Swifty

Utter foolishness:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/university-of-auckland-student-shuts-down-segregation-allegations-levelled-by-act-party/NDOIZJDBHBFHFOEJJYYHLUNLLI/

These people have become consumed by race.

This resurgence of segregation I completely and wholeheartedly reject. It is taking us in unhealthy and dark directions.

National should direct them to cut it out or have their funding stopped. As taxpayers we should be up in arms that our taxes are being used to promote this racism in our public institutions.
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March 27, 2024 2:04pm
- I remember when
  
  Once again I wonder if it is time to question the individual percentage of European or Asian ethnicity of those who qualify.
  
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  March 27, 2024 3:25pm
- Prince
  
  Labour/Greens/TPM all support the idea of segregated areas such as this, to help students from these ethnicities feel safe.
  
  Would it be OK if I also supported the concept because I felt unsafe when amongst Maori and Pasifica students ?
  
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  March 27, 2024 4:42pm
- Swifty
  
  Next thing this will spread and before long it will be required of other public institutions, private companies etc and before you know it we have racial segregation all around us.
  
  No. Kill it stone dead now. While we still can.
  
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  March 27, 2024 4:42pm
- kowtow
  
  Race is just the excuse.
  
  They use religion ( as long as it’s not Christianity) and gender too.
  
  There’ll always be a cause celebre .
  
  Time to end it alland consign marxism to the bin where it belings , in whatever guise .
  
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  March 27, 2024 7:15pm
- Miritu
  
  “National should direct them to cut it out or have their funding stopped”
  That will not happen. Luxon likely fully supports that segregation.
  
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  March 27, 2024 9:37pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Or, just make its use mandatory.
  
  Then listen for the screams of outrage.
  
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  March 27, 2024 10:19pm
Chuck Bird

I heard Hipkins on the radio opposing shutting down Gloryvale. Children have been abused by the deceased leader and now it seems likely be the current leader. I say shut it down.
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March 27, 2024 2:14pm
Maggie Pie

A friend was wondering if those perverted ‘Drag Queens’ HONESTLY believe that what they are doing at the city’s Public Libraries in front of our children, is nothing more than ‘harmless entertainment’……then why not take their performances to Rest Homes and save Ratepayers heaps.
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March 27, 2024 2:30pm
- Albie
  
  So, what’s next. Can I suggest S & M enthusiasts dress up and read stories to children? To not allow them the opportunity would be discrimination in these enlightened times wouldn’t it? Having said that, those Gimps are a bit scary looking!
  
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  March 27, 2024 4:50pm
Maggie Pie

CAUTION: UPSETTING CONTENT

Yet another reason why Israel must wipe HAMAS, and all those left retards
who support them, off the face of this earth…..

https://trib.al/e6bZRfh
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March 27, 2024 3:59pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  The UN believes Me Too Unless You Are A Jew.
  
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  March 27, 2024 5:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From Hobson’s Pledge.
Designates areas for certain people at University of Auckland.
Te Pakeha has no such place………

https://www.facebook.com/HobsonsPledge/videos/788019406530973/
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March 27, 2024 4:22pm
herb1

One of the stated claims of the KKK in its founding documents was the destruction of the Republican Party and they set up a political wing to threaten voters against voting Republicans.
However in a Herald FB post which only certain people can comment on , it refers to Winston Peters claiming the racially segregated space in Auckland UNI, is like the KKK , an alt RIGHT White supremacist group.
I’m confused , I always thought KKK was a group set up by the left wing . Are the modern journalist ill informed or just simply passing misinformation
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March 27, 2024 4:34pm
Ghost

Sean Plunket, Cam Slater Having a Go at each other.. Can’t stand slater, but Sean you are being a dickhead.
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March 27, 2024 4:56pm
- kowtow
  
  Newshub ?
  
  Weren’t they the liars who claimed Posie Parker made a white supremacist signal …..
  
  Fuck ’em .They’re on the wrong side of history .
  
  Bwa ha ha ha ha.
  
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  March 27, 2024 7:11pm
  - Ghost
    
    Doesn’t matter who is reporting it, it is bloody disgusting of plunket, and well done to slater for not letting him get away with it
    
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    March 27, 2024 8:29pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  More than a dickhead… an absolute ignoramus.
  
  If you don’t understand the basics of genetics and evolution, then it’s probably best not to start proclaiming about cross-breeding, inbreeding or trisomy; and it is never advisable to invoke eugenic solutions.
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:08pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  The funny thing is, Sean is, shock horror, a climate-scam sceptic (as am I). Yet he will go apoplectic and shut a caller down immediately with insults and shouting over the caller if the caller is merely suggesting the slightest hint of doubt about covid vaccine efficacy and safety. Sean often goes off like this half cocked because he hasn’t even bothered to listen enough to find out what the caller is really on about. It’s a bit weird and pisses off paying subscribers! I recommend Sean take a back seat to manage The Platform and let other more reasonable people do the interviews.
  
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  March 29, 2024 2:55pm
Maggie Pie

Wirth sharing 😀

When a reporter just asked Trumpy how he would pay the $175million appeal bond…

He replied “In cash”

LOL!!!
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March 27, 2024 7:55pm
- Ghost
  
  Coins would be more fun
  
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  March 27, 2024 8:12pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Scrooge McDuck!
    
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    March 28, 2024 8:04am
Jack5

How long will the Coalition let TVNZ and State Radio play the role of a Left-wing opposition?

They’re ignoring the voters’ choice, with crap like this:

https://youtu.be/rb7RII4_gSE?si=rYfszvwWFSn8HZJA
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March 27, 2024 11:59pm
- Ghost
  
  Small correction
  
  The Government says due process has been followed but the opposition ~~is critical~~ are hypocrites as they made likewise appointments
  
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