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greybeard

How stupid is Tory Whanau ?
She removes car parking in Cuba Street because she wants to “reduce emissions” and that is more important than losing about $200k per year in parking fees.
Well , Tory , consider this: the drivers ( and shoppers / spenders ) in those cars will simply keep driving them but they will drive to Lower Hutt or Kilbirnie or Kapiti, and spend their money out of Wellington.
And emissions will remain the same.
What an idiot.
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March 26, 2024 8:01am
- artemisia
  
  Retailers go – or stay – where the customers are. There are already many boarded up premises, with owners facing big rates increases with less income incoming.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:24am
- Prince
  
  And where does she expect to recoup the lost revenue (hint, rhymes with latestayer).
  Or what expenses will she cut ? How mush more will she borrow ?
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:25am
  - CJames
    
    I thought they can’t borrow any more as they have reached the debt limit
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:42am
    - artemisia
      
      Think council debt limit is based on total revenue. Increase rates and voila.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:30am
- CJames
  
  I would encourage Tory and her Council to keep on enacting the stupid rules. Let Wellington collapse. Then it is a great object lesson in the dangers of voters electing incompetent councils. Maybe, just maybe, it might encourage Wellington voters to actually change their votes for people that are even just half sensible.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:29am
  - igm
    
    There is need for immediate statutory management in Wellington. These deadbeats (councillors and mayor) were the outcome of non-ratepayers voting in local body elections.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:52am
    - artemisia
      
      While probably true non-ratepayers had a big hand in electing the current Wellington City councillors, those non-ratepayers are paying though their rent increases. Some of them have not joined the dots yet.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:37am
      - MikeS
        
        so how many ‘non ratepayers’ voted in the local body elections?
        
        And obviously assume by ‘non ratepayers’ you mean residential landlords, whose rates are tax deductible?
        
        You obviously don’t mean people who rent their house. who obviously pay a share of rates as part of their rent. You’d have to be a bit of an idiot if you’re a landlord and don’t allow for rates in the amount of rent you charge. (The proportion not taken care of by a tax deduction)
        
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        March 26, 2024 11:47pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      You are dreaming if you think that universal suffrage will end.
      
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      March 26, 2024 11:50am
      - Keith White
        
        Doesn’t the anthem of her generation include…
        
        “You may say I’m a dreamer
        But I’m not the only one…”
        
        🙂
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:07pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        Well, you really missed the mark with that one, didn’t you Keith?
        
        (1) Tory Whanau is certainly not dreaming about the end of universal suffrage.
        (2) the lines you quote are from John Lennon’s 1971 song, ‘Imagine’.
        (3) given that Whanau was born in 1983, those lines can hardly be her generation’s ‘anthem’, can they? If they are any generation’s anthem, they would far more likely be your generation’s.
        
        So, whatever the ever-so-clever point you were trying to make was, it was well and truly lost on me.
        
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        March 26, 2024 7:19pm
    - Paulus
      
      Before you say that look at Tauranga where Mahuta cancelled the Councillors, and put in four Commissioners who finally go in July.
      It was disaster, and they tried to get extended again but not this time.
      
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      March 26, 2024 1:43pm
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    100%. As a Wellingtonian I really hope the government stays out of this and lets nature take its course. Sometimes people have to reach rock bottom before they admit they have a problem. Even if Wellington voters are incapable of learning, they can serve as an example to others.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:58am
    - nzgoose
      
      last government had initially said they would move some of the bureaucracy out of Wellington and then promptly moved more in, perhaps Winston can push some of them back out to the regions (those that they cant bin completely).
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:24pm
- Lance
  
  Maybe Tory is a secret admirer of John Key?
  I mean, John once made the comment that Wellington is dying. So Tory is actively making that vision comes true.
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:01am
- Ford Prefect
  
  And I know where the lost revenue is coming from.
  Ive lived in Wellington all my life but seldom find myself in Newtown. The roads are baffling now the cycle lanes have taken over. Apparently I was in a Special Vehicle Lane for more than 70m, and I now need to pay $150 for the privilege.
  Im going to get the “proof” before I pay but looks like I’ll have to lump it
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:04am
- Ra Henare
  
  Surely it would have been a council decision? So cant blame it all on the Mayor.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:19am
- all true
  
  The same happens with speed bumps, highly anti environmentally, before the speed bumps you to break and after the speed bumps you accelerate again instead having no speed bumps and having a constant drive speed.
  All what the Greens achieve just shifting the problems from side to other side.
  Nothing solved!!!!
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Baron Trump is now 18 so fair game for the left now.

Creeps.

https://freedomeagledaily.com/leftists-hammered-for-creepy-response-to-barrons-birthday/?
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March 26, 2024 8:05am
- thirteenstars
  
  At least they waited until he was 18. The real perverts come after kids before they’re in double digits seducing them with Drag Queen story time and puberty blocker gummy bears.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:41am
oldpark

“Karma” arrived in President Donald Trump’s favour .
Common sense prevailed .
Mad dog New York Judge and lying Prosecutor got egg on faces .
Yes lest we forget “Karma” was alive and well in President Donald Trump’s corner .
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March 26, 2024 8:06am
- bjools
  
  They tried to take ALL his cash.
  So he couldn’t run for President (he is using a large amount of his own money)’
  $175mUSD… he practically bit their hand off for that number, he accepted so fast.
  IMO they could have said $250mUSD and he still would have accepted.
  This only the bon, pending appeal, I’m betting the appeal will fall in his favour and will not be asked for more than the bond.
  The damage this ridiculous case has brought upon NYC and state, will be huge and is yet to be seen.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:34am
  - Grunter
    
    People and capital go where they are treated best. That is not New York.
    
    The big winner will most likely be Florida.
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:47am
    - artemisia
      
      Maybe Mr Trump will sell up some of his NYC assets. Could be some Italian gentlemen with deep pockets looking to expand their enterprises.
      
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      March 26, 2024 9:06am
    - artemisia
      
      How about Texas a big winner. Send all those buses of migrants to NYC, lots more empty buildings coming up for emergency housing. Perfick.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:55am
  - jkt
    
    It confirms what we all knew, all along, that Karma does not exist.
    It demonstrates that there is a legal process in America.
    
    And it demonstrates to discerning voters that it is important to protect the American system. But if Americans want to change the system they get to vote on that every few years.
    
    Just like in Russia and Hungary, their vote will always count.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:22am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Karma does exist. She is VPOTUS, as someone said the other day.
      It may have been you jkt.
      
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      March 26, 2024 3:12pm
softail 1450

Greybeard ,compared to some of the decisions made in Wellington over the last 6 years by labour and the greens Whanaus plans seem just mildly stupid and possibly carried out whilst having a momentary slip off the wagon..
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March 26, 2024 8:10am
Southern Raider

So a couple of years ago IRD spent a billion dollars on a new “future proofed” IT system

But this week claim they can’t process child care refunds as the system isn’t setup for it and would be a two to three year project to implement
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March 26, 2024 8:17am
- bjools
  
  Best get on with it….you have 6 months, or we get someone else to do your job.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:36am
  - MikeS
    
    The tender process will probably take 6 months. IT is what it is.
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:54pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  The childcare rebate is not simple. Actually, it’s a dumb policy anyway. The key problem in ECE is pay parity with secondary teachers, along with mandatory 80% qualified staff.
  
  What did the industry think was going to happen to fees?
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:47am
Grunter

Col. Daniel Davis makes some important points regards the Moscow terrorist attack.

1. Claims so far from Russia and US are most likely propaganda
2. There are various scenarios that are all plausible in this crazy world, and David admits he has no idea what has actually happened.
3. But, the only thing that now matters is what Russia says and does. It is likely that Russia will use this event to blame Ukraine and ramp up the war to another level.

Davis sees this event as a major issue in the escalating Ukraine war.
https://youtu.be/Sg3NJUjEzW0?
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March 26, 2024 8:17am
- Simon
  
  One of the arrested terrorist had to be wheeled into court because he had been beaten unconscious. All sane people said good job.
  
  In NZ criminal gang scum are promoted as normal members of society. That is these parasitic low life gang scum are normalized.
  
  With NZ society treated with such contempt NZ should have second thoughts about fighting with a country like Russia.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:45am
- All_on_Red
  
  FFS
  Take your tin foil hat off and give the scaremongering a break.
  ISIS committed the attack.
  And get yourself some better sources
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:03am
  - Grunter
    
    Another solid argument from All-on-Red. You add so much to the debate.//
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:23am
    - All_on_Red
      
      What I add to the debate is facts and not the nonsense you continually spout.
      ISIS did the attack- yes or no?
      Seriously, the way you believe these You Tube warriors is just embarrassing.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:10pm
  - grumpy
    
    And organised an escape “window” through Ukraine near where they were arrested……how did ISIS organise that?
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:55am
    - All_on_Red
      
      They tried to exit near Bryansk which is 500km from Ukraine..
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:12pm
      - grumpy
        
        Get a map
        
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        March 26, 2024 12:39pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Was it ISIS – yes or no?
        
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        March 26, 2024 1:00pm
      - Grunter
        
        Nice try Red
        “What I add to the debate is facts and not the nonsense….”
        
        Nekminut “They tried to exit near Bryansk which is 500km from Ukraine”
        (It’s actually about a 2 Hr drive or about 160km to the border according to Google Maps – maybe that source needs a tinfoil hat as well???)
        
        Red – You remind me of someone…..? Single source of the truth !! 🙂 🙂
        
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        March 26, 2024 2:11pm
- Taieri
  
  Davis sees this event as a major issue in the escalating Ukraine war.
  ———–
  
  Why would Putin need “a major issue” to escalate the war? He can escalate or deescalate it as he pleases without any excuses anyway…
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:16am
  - jkt
    
    It may well make it easier for him to mobilise more troups. When they rolled out their previous mobilisation Russians crossed borders in large numbers to avoid being mobilised.
    
    Or maybe they just went on a long planned OE.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:28am
    - MCōs
      
      No matter how ‘righteous’ the cause sooner or later sending shit loads of half trained conscripts to be killed starts to wear a bit thin particularly when you’re the aggressor
      Everyone outside Russia that matters knows this attack was perpetrated by isis, but it’s what Russians believe that matters
      Putin may be wildly popular at home one day, but if he overplays his hand he might ‘fall out of a window’ the next.
      
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      March 26, 2024 11:27am
      - jkt
        
        He never goes anywhere near any windows.
        He hardly sits in the same room as his immediate table guests.
        
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        March 26, 2024 1:45pm
      - MCōs
        
        It’s a figure of speech
        Any political leader becomes unpopular sooner or later and they are moved along one way or another
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:02pm
      - jkt
        
        Fair enough.
        When Mother Russia is under threat Russians are great patriots. The Putin regime may well try and leverage off this tragedy.
        
        I am unconvinced it will mobilise the masses.
        
        The Ukraine/Putin conflict could get out hand, but I think world leaders and Putin are looking for an off-ramp.
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:57pm
  - bco90
    
    It’s more about public support and military morale.
    
    Putin is still at the whim of the Russian people. If he escalates too much, it can cause problems. The aim is to use whatever possible to keep public support, as cynical and nihilistic as that is.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:23pm
Maggie Pie

Labor’s new ‘Executive Assistant’ that nasty woman hating fijian Trans-Activist
Shaneel Lal, has scrubbed his twitter account… no doubt at Chippy’s direction?

Lucky everyone else archieved it 😛

https://twitter.com/NZMAGAMike/status/1772081816138121471
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March 26, 2024 8:18am
- Southern Raider
  
  Labour trying to out Green the Greens?
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:20am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    SR, well I guess they have to. The question now is: how will Chloe respond?
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:49am
    - Jethrod
      
      Chloe’s response will be word soup
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:58pm
    - zulumonster
      
      Chloe will suggest we need to listen the the evidence based research …
      
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      March 26, 2024 3:07pm
- CJames
  
  And Labour employing him shows why they have lost touch with the “average” voter and haven’t figured out what went wrong yet. But it will go down well in the electorates they hope to recapture from the Greens.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:23am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    But but but, Hipkins today says NZ should not be a third world country, perhaps he is waking up to his pathetic failures after all
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:12am
- bjools
  
  Chippie looks SSSSOOOO proud.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:39am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Wonder if Tony knows?
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:00am
    - pdm
      
      MP I thought Toni was the spelling.
      
      Does confusion still endure?
      
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      March 26, 2024 9:36am
- Akitio
  
  Can we have a “caption contest” re this photo?
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:56am
  - pdm
    
    Yuk.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:38am
- jkt
  
  So, the action in Albert Park was a successful job interview.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:31am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Jkt the action in the park showed he could work seamlessly with Labour and Newshub.
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:16pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      And the police
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:47pm
Southern Raider

So Iwi had to be paid to approve SailGP event.

These payments need more transparency and publicity
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March 26, 2024 8:18am
- Prince
  
  And are these regular payments taxed, or ‘donations/koha’ ?
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:30am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    “In addition to that, there are 11 so-called expert dolphin observers that are being paid NZ$600 per day each, plus their expenses, in a programme that totals $78,000.”
    ‘So-called’ most likely being the operative words here …..
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:54am
  - wsk12345
    
    Well they won’t be taxed as the iwi is a “registered charity”
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:07am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      The observers are not a charity’s. No individual can have charitable status. They will have to include the money they receive in their tax returns.
      
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      March 26, 2024 9:52am
      - wsk12345
        
        I was obviously referring to the iwi payment, if you look at what I responded to.
        
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        March 26, 2024 12:18pm
    - MikeS
      
      What Iwi payment? Do you even know what you’re on about?
      
      So Russell Coutts the SailGP CEO, chooses to hold their event in a marine mammal sanctuary that was established for the protection of Hector’s dolphins. He willingly signs up to all the associated rules and regulations. For a start, how f’ing stupid is that?? (Amazing how someone so thick gets paid so many millions)
      
      Then when they have to abide by said rules and regulations, he starts whining and moaning like an entitled little school boy.
      
      Coutts doesn’t really give a f**k about this other than he doesn’t want to look bad personally. He’s a pratt.
      
      Furthermore, no matter how much they try and hype it up and call it the big GP and have the commentators literally hysterical in excitement, it’s still boring as f**k
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:20am
- Paulus
  
  Am I right in SailGP, for the last time, that some 11 Iwi were involved in Christchurch and the sum of $300,000 has been put about ?
  Albeit the Harbour Master is the final arbiter, and has done what he is told.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:43am
  - wsk12345
    
    300 k plus 78k to pay the expert dolphin observers for the two days work.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:08am
  - AitchW
    
    Judging by reports of the harbour master’s behaviour in relation to practice sessions on the water for the teams I’d suggest that he’s a hardened lefty/greenie. He allowed virtually no time for practice before the actual race days. Even on race days he put severe limits on the time allowed for practice.
    
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    March 26, 2024 2:12pm
- Grunter
  
  It is called ‘Blackmail’ in most countries.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:48am
- RoboRob
  
  They dont need more transparency. They need to stop. If IWI were legally blocked from accepting payment or gift (Koha) from people requesting permission for events and roads etc there would be no incentive for the IWI to decline.
  
  I would bet serious money that if such a ban was put into place within two years iwi would simply be blanket rubber stamping every request. They would not want to put the time and effort to investigate and block without the financial reward for doing so.
  
  I’m pretty sure a good number (all?) of the paid whale watchers at the event were Iwi. I would have thought the environmentalists would have looked out for the whales for free, becuase they care so much, right?
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:30am
  - Flossie
    
    Not whales. Dolphins!
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:02am
    - RoboRob
      
      Lol. Perhaps I was thinking of the physical size of the watchers.
      
      ‘The whale sized dolphin watchers’.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:12am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    A couple of years ago one iwi demanded payment from me for the “iwi consultation” that’s required when you apply for a permit to carry out research on DOC land. I said no, and protested to DOC, who washed their hands of it, and said it was up to me to convince the iwi. I went in and did the research anyway – it was low impact and at a remote site, so nobody was ever going to know.
    
    To be fair, that iwi was an outlier, most have been reasonable about the consultations, though there’s often a loooong wait for a decision. But I’ve heard of other cases of iwi demanding payment for the consultation.
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:17pm
- cas
  
  An orchardist I know had to pay to get someone from the iwi out when he wanted to do some irrigation work. There might have been a site in the way. Turns out they decided the site was in the middle of the road.
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:38am
- AitchW
  
  I’m not sure that they do. Is this not an agreement between a private company and the various authorities and “stake holders”?
  While I share your apparent distaste for the extortionate practices of eCan, DOC and the local hapu I don’t believe that the agreement must be made public. I do suspect that in time Sir Russell may well choose to release that information as part of his tactics to retain Lyttelton as a race course for Sail GP.
  
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  March 26, 2024 2:07pm
kowtow

Today’s Herald editorial ;

‘The standard of proof required for police to lay criminal charges in these cases is “beyond reasonable doubt”….

this in relation to the recent violence against children cases .

No.Wrong. Reasonable doubt does not relate to police laying charges . It relates to the burden of proof , ‘the legal burden of proof required to affirm a conviction in a criminal case.’

And their front page , graced with a mobsters’ tattooed visage ,relating to the murderous affray in TayRaffertery, is simply a montage of facebook posts relating to the now named individuals who were killed.

No wonder te legacy media are neither trusted not thriving.
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March 26, 2024 8:19am
- peterwn
  
  This is the right and proper test that any prosecuting agency should be applying. You do not take a prosecution to court if it is doomed to failure for two reasons:
  1. A prosecution is a burden on the accused (and witnesses, jurors, etc) even if found not guilty.
  2. This wastes precious court time.
  There is some pragmatism here which is recognised in Crown Law guidelines. A prosecution may be taken even though it is touch and go that it would succeed if it would be in the ‘public interest’ for it to proceed. This would be the situation where there is pressure (often from a vocal few) for ‘justice’ to be done (ie a scalp to be delivered).
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:50am
  - jkt
    
    Data tells us:
    that they are or are not very good at their job?
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:33am
- Handyman
  
  Anyone else notice a complete lack of iwi affiliations for those named in the Tairawhiti murders?
  Also consider what it takes to be fast tracked to full patch status in Black Power at such a young age. (21)
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:09am
  - RoboRob
    
    But, but, but we are told there are was no gang involvement in this killing.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:32am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Will be a 3rd gen member or maybe 4th… And will have been working to gang orders since 12 or 13…
    
    So by 21/22 a patched member is a very experienced criminal – and harden by some nasty activity.
    
    I mourn the gang member who died not one iota
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:35am
  - kevn
    
    Handy… Much badness.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:21am
artemisia

NY appeals court has chopped Donald Trump’s fine bigly, and extended the deadline to pay. Letitia James won’t be happy, she had her eye fixated on those assets.
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March 26, 2024 8:20am
- Paulus
  
  In addition, if you looked, you could not miss Letitia, who is trying to make her political name as hard as possible.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:45am
  - jkt
    
    You may find she is very relieved.
    She has no clue where Trump’s money is!
    And dragging this out gives her more time in the limelight.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:40am
- RoboRob
  
  The appeals court reduced it to 175m which coincidentally is the maximum amount Trumps lawyers argued the fine should be in the first place.
  
  Seems like the appeals court agrees. Huge slap in the face for the Judge.
  
  Also heard CNN earlier this week discussing how Trump could probably easily sell Maralago for between 200 and 250m. Interesting CNN never mentioned that when the Judge and DA argued it was worth $18m and that Trump had overstated its value.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:36am
  - jkt
    
    Creditors will have to wait longer while Trump money is tied up.
    I am sure Trump creditors are hoping that a bonding agency puts up the full amount.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:45am
    - G152
      
      Seriously would any-one want to play those sorts of games with people with that much dosh.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:49am
      - jkt
        
        That is how it works.
        I guess you are afflicted with the honesty bias.
        
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        March 26, 2024 11:11am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Why would Trumps Creditors be concerned?
      According to the list of assets/debt in Trumps Presidential Candidate Financial Disclosure he is modestly geared.
      And recall the leaked Tax Return from a few years ago showed that after expenses he made $250 million a year..
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:25pm
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        Ask his creditors.
        
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        March 26, 2024 1:47pm
- Handyman
  
  In round numbers…
  1. Trump values Mar a Lago at $500m.
  
  2. The Democrat team (AG, Judge etc) values it at $15m and fines Trump $500m.
  
  3. The Democrat team jump at the chance to accept Mar a Lago as full settlement of the $500m knowing they can on-sell for $700m.
  
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  March 26, 2024 4:20pm
imalwaysright

Building castles while their people live in slums.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/mar/25/this-is-our-beautiful-castle-the-stunning-new-buildings-expressing-maori-pride
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March 26, 2024 8:21am
- Bridgenag
  
  Read the propoganda that comes with that !
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:54am
  - Dave
    
    Yes. In Maori homes you must separate noa from tapu; consequently, you can’t have the laundry in the kitchen, as you always do in non-Maori homes.//
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Architect has a mental Health problem.
  So does the person who wrote all the nonsense.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:36am
- Sparrow
  
  Interesting article. Heard some time ago its wheels within wheels from an ex student at the Architecture Department Auckland Uni. All projects had to have a Māori connection and the Professors husband is Toa Architects. As with many other courses Māori students get easier admission and financial support. She was pissed off but that’s NZ Universities get use to it. Its inbedded. Tell your pākeha sons and daughters to take a trade or go to an OZ uni. Change of government will not change anything.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:39am
  - Taieri
    
    Tell your pākeha sons and daughters to take a trade or go to an OZ uni.
    ————-
    
    Australian universities have their own version of madness. The Acknowledgement of Country ceremonies and such like.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:27am
    - wsk12345
      
      I’ve noticed that most of the Aussie podcasts I listed(Ed) to start with an acknowledgement of the wonderful ness of some group of people who used to wander through the land.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:28pm
  - julesnzuk
    
    Please don’t call people “pakeha”. Also, why should European New Zealanders have to leave their country?
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:45pm
- softail 1450
  
  Imalwaysright , that building has opened my eyes as I’ve always thought Hundertwasser only designed shit houses in Northland.
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:29am
  - Paulus
    
    Has he been granted Maori heritage ?
    
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    March 26, 2024 1:51pm
- julesnzuk
  
  I don’t mind them building things to be fair. Would be nice to see some honesty and transparency about the state of Maoridom in NZ though and how it has been ruined by leftism. The propaganda in the article is stomach churning.
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:44pm
  - AitchW
    
    And the language used to describe the “castle” is nauseatingly pretentious. Incidentally, isn’t calling the building a “castle” cultural appropriation? Should it not be a Wharenui? Or perhaps a Pa given the fortified nature of most castles?
    
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    March 26, 2024 2:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Auckland Councillor has a go at Russell.

Bartley – fun Police.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/auckland-councillor-says-sir-russell-coutts-entitlement-is-unbelievable-after-sailgp-drama/ar-BB1ksFtF?
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March 26, 2024 8:23am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Just another hopeless Labour politician Steve. No one should expect anything else from her.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:26am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  “We need those big events, I was one of the ones that voted for America’s Cup… It was the benefits to the economy and the benefits to the city,” she said.
  Obviously ain’t no hector’s in the water off Takapuna Steve 🙂 🙂
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:45am
  - Paulus
    
    But Auckland City and the Harbour Board could not get their act together hence Christchurch.
    Will not happen again.
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:47am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Dolphins do come into the Waitemata Harbour but not Hectors. Further out in the gulf they are there. I have had them riding the bow wave of my boat.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:43am
    - All_on_Red
      
      I saw around 15 dolphins play around the Ferry from Devonport to the City about a month ago.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:26pm
      - wsk12345
        
        Yeah but ok to kill ordinary dolphins.
        
        At least that’s what I think they are implying.
        
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        March 26, 2024 12:29pm
    - Paulus
      
      What are their names then ?
      Surely they have a Maori name like everything else !
      
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      March 26, 2024 1:53pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I thought they were all named “Opo.”
        
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        March 26, 2024 3:16pm
- MCōs
  
  Here is the Marine Mammal Management Plan SailGP signed up to
  Sir Russell acted like it was all news to him or maybe he didn’t read the fine print or maybe the people he pays to keep him informed of potential pitfalls are falling down on the job https://www.christchurchnz.com/media/v0xh3u5v/published-mmmp.pdf
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:20am
  - RoboRob
    
    Sir Russell was complaining about it before the event even started. He said there were too many hurdles and bureaucracy to jump through to host an event here again.
    
    The dolphin appearing on the course just highlighted the insanity for everyone else to see.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:40am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      There is a certain element in NZ who say yachting is a rich man’s sport. My Dad was one of them and would not listen to any argument.
      They fail to see the trickle down. The employment, the merchandising, the world publicity, the GST created, the photography essentials, the list is endless.
      I worked 50 years at a company that made trailers. Yep, the trickle down. People want to get out there to watch the racing. That means boat sales increase as do the trailers. I have seen this especially in 1995 with the Americas Cup.
      But yes, the rich man’s sport is too much fun so the fun police must stop it.
      SailGP will never go back to Christchurch and you know who to blame. Any major water racing should by done in the City of Sails.
      
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      March 26, 2024 9:55am
Anthony Melchett

Nothing sums up gisborne quite like a gang prospect stabbed to death at his 21st.

I wonder how many future victims have been saved by this?

I also find it peculiar that he was named after a second rate 1970’s outboard motor manufacturer but each to their own I guess.

In other gisborne news, I see that residents have painted over a rainbow pedestrian crossing so I guess it’s not all bad up there!
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March 26, 2024 8:25am
- peterwn
  
  Chrysler was USA’s third largest automobile manufacturer in its heyday. The Chrysler Valiant was a popular car brand in NZ years ago and was possibly the inspiration for the young deceased’s christian name.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:58am
  - Swifty
    
    I’ve got one – a VG coupe.
    
    Wouldn’t think of naming my kids after it though I must say.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:22am
    - Random T Person
      
      There’s a kid named Hilux at school with one of my boys.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:04am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Wouldn’t expect it from the Japanese…
        
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        March 26, 2024 11:02am
- MCōs
  
  Destiny Church people painted over the rainbow crossing.
  The nearest Destiny cell is in Hamilton so it’s obviously not locals
  https://x.com/kiwi_rascal/status/1772196793041772546?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:38am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Good on Destiny Church. It’s called non-violent direct action. It’s called social protest, and a hell of a lot more considerate of others than gluing yourself to the road.
    
    Besides, we all know a rainbow crossing must be a confusing road hazard. Might as well rearrange the colours on the traffic lights.
    
    Thanks to Destiny for standing up for traffic safety. Lives saved. Sanity restored.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:50am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Destiny “cell”.
    Do you mean church or perhaps parish?
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:05am
  - mandk
    
    Good on the Destiny Church folk, I say.
    
    I checked on Copilot to see if road vehicles are obliged to stop at rainbow crossings and this is what it said:
    “In New Zealand, rainbow crossings are not officially recognized as standard road markings. Therefore, road vehicles are not specifically obliged to stop at them.”
    
    I also asked whether road vehicles were obliged to stop at zebra crossings, and Copilot said:
    “All motorists are required to stop at zebra crossings when a pedestrian is on or waiting to cross.”
    
    I recognise that Copilot is not a legal authority on this matter, but NZTA needs to clarify what the law is. Who will be to blame if someone is killed on a rainbow crossing?
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:06am
    - AitchW
      
      I have a vague recollection that when the first rainbow crossing was installed in Wellington at huge expense there was a report that it was not a legal pedestrian crossing because by law pedestrian crossings can only have white stripes. I wonder if one of the very many pieces of legislation pushed through by the last government was a change to the Land Transport Act to allow rainbow colours?
      
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      March 26, 2024 2:22pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        They used aderns crayons as reference colours.
        
        She wanted, quite rightly, for the crossings to be curved like real rainbows until, months later, she finally grasped that the start and finish points would be on the same side of the road.
        
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        March 26, 2024 3:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Clearly you don’t live in Gisborne, let alone Kaiti…
    
    https://www.instagram.com/destinychurchgisborne/
    
    They’re based in Kaiti Mall.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:50am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    How do you know the residential addresses of the people in the video?
    There is every chance they are local, and hence acting locally.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:57am
  - julesnzuk
    
    Good on them. I’m not a fan of their dated homophobia and creepy anti-abortion nonsense, but a lot of what do….actually pretty good.
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:50pm
- RoboRob
  
  A gang prospect, you dont say. That cant be right becuase the media and police are saying no link to gangs. Also friends and family are talking about how great a young man he was.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:42am
Sideoiler

For Christs sake Luxon, grow a pair!
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March 26, 2024 8:26am
- Paulus
  
  Sideoiler
  Luxon was not at the 21st Birthday Party in Gisborne !
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:48am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Where did you read in the above comment that he was?
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:27pm
- Grunter
  
  Hosking interview? Yep, Luxon at his slippery best (worst).
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:53am
  - pdm
    
    Grunter what stuck out to me was that Luxon would not criticise IWI re the Yachting fiasco at the weekend.
    
    No wonder Taumata Arowai has not been got rid of.
    
    Me thinks he is not a man that likes confrontations unless he is castigating people in his own team.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:52am
    - jkt
      
      We paid Iwi monitors to perform “rituals” because the consent conditions required us to do so. (RMA)
      
      They were required to inspect and sign off on the cultural impact conditions that were part of the consent. Commissioners find all kinds of obstacles to make life pleasant for those trying to build stuff.
      
      *Conditions based on the mitigating the undefined consequences and risks identified through the process called Precautionary Principles.
      
      A set of commissioners always include a cultural specialist. DEI add value … cost!!
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:27am
  - jkt
    
    Same interview that I watched?
    Dolphins and obstacles to growing our economy?
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:18am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Yes the Hosking interview this morning. I am so pleased National are unable to govern on their own
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:32pm
    - jkt
      
      You and Luxon.
      
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      March 26, 2024 1:49pm
- softail 1450
  
  Sideoiler, is your username in reference to the magnificent FE ford engine from the 60s /70s ?,
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:42am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Yes it is Softtail, I am fortunate enough to own two of them and a SOHC
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:35pm
Chuck Bird

Not premium. Not often do I see any of the Greens do something worthwhile.

Gloriavale’s treatment of woman ‘disturbing’, says former MP after visit to community

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gloriavales-treatment-of-woman-disturbing-says-former-mp-after-visit-to-community/MGGPZKCKPRAJNFKHDWOW3RU5XM/
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March 26, 2024 8:33am
- Grunter
  
  Too many of those evil ‘cis white males’ maybe? They always ruin communes/communism.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:55am
- MCōs
  
  Having watched the documentary on TVNZ the last couple of nights plus plenty of other stuff on TV I’m wondering how that place can possibly be allowed to exist
  On the other hand what would become of the people if they were obliged to cope with the real world?
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:51am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes,
    
    It is absolutely tragic that ERO and Labour Department staff never noticed the crap they were being fed for years by the shepherds and their flock of bewildered souls.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:53am
    - MCōs
      
      They don’t consider themselves to be bewildered
      It’s us that’s given them the label just as they think we are the devil worshippers or whatever
      Expanding on that logic
      There are groups/cultures/religions around the world we consider inferior to our accepted standards & who might think the same of us
      
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      March 26, 2024 5:18pm
artemisia

Australia short of 90,000 construction workers. Wonder where they will be looking to recruit.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-24/90-000-extra-construction-workers-needed-to-be-on-track-for-goal/103625934
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March 26, 2024 8:34am
- Inandout
  
  art, the biggest hurdle to chasing a job in Oz is the complete lack of affordable rentals in most cities.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:43am
  - artemisia
    
    Lots of affordable rentals in NZ cities? (Nope.) Don’t forget the large number of New Zealanders already in Oz. Couple of young tradies in my family are looking across the ditch, many rellies and mates over there happy to help and quite a few are now citizens there.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:11am
  - MCōs
    
    My wife’s neice and husband have just gone Melbourne
    She has exactly the same job for the same hotel chain for a lot more money, but they have to share accommodation with another couple they didn’t previously know to make the move worthwhile financially
    A bit of a come down at fifty.
    Apart from that there’s a much bigger Thai community with markets and food courts, which they love.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:59am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Daughter and Partner, both chefs, are paying similar rents in Melbourne as to what they’d be paying if they lived in Auckland or Queenstown … but are earning far more than they would anywhere in NZ and can easily change employers, if they want. Transport/ food/clothing etc is much cheaper than in NZ.
      
      Nieces & nephew went to Townsville with just basic school qualifications. Two picked up managerial jobs in customer service/retail, and one owns a business (house removals). They (and their kids) will never return to NZ.
      
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      March 26, 2024 11:05am
    - The Housekeeper
      
      MCos, wasn’t that their goal all along? Get NZ residency then move to Oz through the back door? How long after getting NZ residency did they leave for Oz? If being amongst their compatriots is such a plus couldn’t they just go home?
      
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      March 26, 2024 3:21pm
      - MCōs
        
        Not at all in their case
        The niece picked up a job as a chef in Gisborne and moved there for nine years before coming to Auckland maybe seven or eight years ago.
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:31pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Did she work for Annie here in Gizzy?
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:34pm
- Cassandra
  
  We had a plumber visit yesterday. He’s South African, two sons, one 20 and a panel beater, the other 19 and training as an electrician. Both off to Australia as soon as they are qualified, along sadly with my granddaughter and her partner. A daughter already there. Unless the National Party wakes up NZ is doomed to an inexorable slide to becoming a cold Fiji.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:52am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Like National not wanting to promote climate emergency that costs NZ billions.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:11am
  - RoboRob
    
    No matter how good National / Act or NZF are this isn’t a five minute fix. It will take NZ years to get back on the track it was on under Key. Remember when he came to power he promised to stop the brain drain. No one thought he could. After a few years we had kiwis coming back to NZ.
    
    The current government has a pile of debt and crazy policy to repeal and fix. Even things like removing the crazy speed limit reductions will take a year or so.
    
    We are a big ship that will take some time to turn.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:50am
    - Cassandra
      
      It will take time but National does not demonstrate a sense of urgency. They need to multitask. No need for the long Christmas holiday either. Should have cracked the whip immediately. Getting rid of the racist water authority should have happened by Christmas. And so on.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:38am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Yes,
        There seems to be many of these toxic ministries being given a second chance.
        
        The only thing that this will achieve is to give them time to “reorient” the minister to their agenda rather than the other way round.
        
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        March 26, 2024 11:13am
    - MikeS
      
      Yep I see even John Key is advising the government to not go ahead with their tax cuts.
      
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      March 27, 2024 12:29am
  - jkt
    
    Far too many immigrants use NZ as a stepping stone to get into Aussie. For far too many South Africans that is their intent.
    
    I am settled in NZ. Three sons schooled here, OE’d, lived and worked overseas returned to NZ and now two are living in Sydney. Both are happily renting out their NZ houses.
    
    If the third one joins them in Aussie I will probably sell up and, with some regret, join them in Aussie. I am not a big fan of the weather there.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:15am
    - cmm
      
      “For far too many South Africans that is their intent. ”
      
      Well South Africans, yes, but also Indians, Chinese, Brits etc. For some it is easier to come to NZ, then get into Australia.
      
      For some it is a deliberate strategy up front.
      For others they decide to first give NZ a go, then go to Australia as Plan B when NZ doesn’t work out for them.
      
      When I came to NZ in 1992, it was about equally easy to get into NZ or Australia. Looking back, I should have chosen Australia.
      
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      March 26, 2024 11:25am
      - jkt
        
        Helen made it easy for me to get in.
        Thanks labour, that was a policy that favoured me.
        
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        March 26, 2024 1:52pm
  - cmm
    
    Well that pretty much holds for everyone. Pretty much everyone I know has kids who have moved out of NZ.
    
    The only real difference with immigrants is that they are generally more highly motivated people. They are the ones that don’t just talk, but actually got off their arses and have gone through the efforts/hassles of moving.
    
    When you lose the offspring of immigrants then you’re losing that stock.
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:29am
- BananaLlama
  
  I know qualified tradesmen here in NZ earning some serious cash Aussie is going to find it alot harder than they think to poach them from NZ.
  
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  March 26, 2024 3:30pm
Chuck Bird

FYI

http://familyfirst.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Forum-on-the-Family-2024-Poster.pdf
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- peterwn
  
  ‘Family First’ puts the family second – ahead of the pet corns of the group that runs ‘family first’.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:00am
Ghost

How strange these type of stories disappeared the past 6 years.

Working families who can’t afford to pay rent even on two incomes are increasingly among those forced to live in tents and cars, Northland housing advocates say.

Monika Welch, who provides food for struggling families, said it was mainly solo mums who needed help when she started her charity Finkk (‘Families in Need Kerikeri’) just over 10 years ago.

Article
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March 26, 2024 8:49am
- artemisia
  
  It is quite likely that for some households that can’t afford a rental, there are other reasons. Because there are some quite decent housing subsidies readily available – bond advance, Accommodation supplement, Tenancy Costs Cover and Temporary Additional Support.
  
  Other reasons – ECON101 and landlord serious risk assessments. The assessments have to be serious due to the many rules introduced by the Labour government that make it devilishly difficult and expensive to terminate bad tenants.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:04am
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION…

Are MAORI actually indigenous to New Zealand?

https://twitter.com/LabourMaoriNZ/status/1771736650143633888

I remember at school they tort us it was the Moriori.

Just saying.
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March 26, 2024 8:50am
- Cassandra
  
  Some would argue no, that they were immigrants too. My view is that it doesn’t matter, forget indgenous, we’re all kiwis.
  
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  March 26, 2024 8:55am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Cassandra you can hold that view but sadly your view of the world differs completely with the very vocal minority decolonisational activists supported by the simple minded ex MSM.
    
    Until everyone in NZ believes we are all NZers nothing will change and infact in 6 years it has got worse than ever before.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:31am
    - Paulus
      
      As has the division between Men and Women which has widened to a position never before contemplated.
      Well done Helen Clark and her lady cohorts.
      The results will not be seen for many years but it will collide with sad results..
      
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      March 26, 2024 2:32pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      That is what Seymour’s referendum is all about. National need to pull their heads out of their bums and get behind this like the future stability of NZ depends on it.
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:51pm
  - Phronesis
    
    There’s really only two options.
    1 – The first person to step ashore became indigenous, everyone who came after is not.
    2 – The first person to step ashore became indigenous, everyone who came after is also indigenous.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:30am
    - imalwaysright
      
      If someone is born here then it is impossible for them to not be indigenous.
      They can’t be indigenous to somewhere else.
      
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      March 26, 2024 11:20am
  - julesnzuk
    
    Saying “we’re all kiwis” is the kind of low brow, dumbed down thinking that has got us into this mess. I’d rather refer to myself as a British settler (which my ancestors were), I’m no bird nor am I a fruit. I agree that for the purposes of rights ethnicity is not a factor, but neither is nationality. All New Zealand citizens, including those of other nationalities who have gone through the citizenship process, have equal rights. This crap about whether Maori are indigenous or not is a red herring.
    
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    March 26, 2024 1:00pm
    - wsk12345
      
      Well you can call yourself a British settler if you like but I’m not British, my ancestors are from a variety of places including 5% Brit. I’m a New Zealander with ancestry here going back over 180 years. They can get fcked if they think they are calling me a foreigner or non indigenous.
      
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      March 26, 2024 3:35pm
      - julesnzuk
        
        Oh I agree with your last sentence. Like I said, all the crap about being “indigenous” or not is a massive red herring anyway. I’m just not a fan of dumbed down, reductive slang like “kiwi” nor am
        I keen on the insidious (and state sponsored, it seems) reduction/cancellation of our European heritage (most of which is British).
        
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        March 26, 2024 9:09pm
- Anthony Melchett
  
  And the whole moriori history now seems to be removed from all text and internet. It’s like they were never here and if they were, they just decided they would up and leave for that Chathams for fun, not because most of them were brutally murdered and eaten.
  
  From the north to the south, put a moriori in your mouth.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:07am
- RoboRob
  
  I believe the current ‘line’ is that the Moriori were simply another tribe.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:52am
  - Cassandra
    
    Which is pretty much accepted as fact. There’s no evidence they were on the mainland “thousands of years” ago.
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:40am
    - Don Beckett
      
      As I understand it from my old Maori aunt (who died in 1972) the Moriori were the descendants of Kupe, who arrived sometime in the 10th century, established settlement & returned to Hawaiki. The Hokianga harbour is named after the place from which he returned.
      
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      March 26, 2024 11:21am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Moriori are a sub-group of Maori that split off sometime after Maori arrived here. They were not here first, regardless of what used to be taught in schools.
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:17am
- Muttonbird
  
  Māori are more indigenous than you.
  
  Just saying.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:09am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Had a gawjus looking part Maori guy approach me at a bar in Parnell once.
    Asked me if I had any Maori in me?
    When I said “nooooo”, he asked me if I’d like some.
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:07pm
  - Swifty
    
    Mutton, would you please address my dog and rat point below?
    
    Many thanks.
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:59pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    “Māori are more indigenous than you.”
    
    You mean “were”?
    
    Define “Maori” in this day and age.
    
    If we are all (white, brown, pink, yellow) born into the modern era, how the F is anybody more “indigenous” than anybody else?
    
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    March 26, 2024 10:56pm
- Swifty
  
  It’s all political.
  
  With regards to the rat and dog that Maori brought with them when arriving in NZ – ask any historian, biologist, anthropologist, scientist of any description “Are these animals indigenous?”
  
  “No” they will ALL reply, “They are both introduced.”
  
  Therein lies your answer. Maori are indigenous but the animals they brought with them are not. Got it?
  
  What has happened is that the meaning of the word ‘indigenous’ has been changed, for purely political reasons, so that Maori qualify.
  
  It really is quite deceitful.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:35am
  - Taieri
    
    Maori are indigenous
    ———
    
    They are.
    As is everyone else who was born in this country.
    
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    March 26, 2024 12:40pm
- julesnzuk
  
  Who cares. It’s not relevant, what matters is citizenship. Not ethnicity or even nationality, but citizenship (3 separate things). All New Zealand citizens have equal rights.
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:56pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump winning. His appeal worked.
I think Judge Engoron and AG James have now got the shits over what will happen post Election.
Popcorn.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/trump-s-454-million-fraud-fine-will-be-put-on-hold-if-he-pays-175million-in-10-days-court-rules/ar-BB1kv5Am#image=BB1kvodG|3
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March 26, 2024 8:58am
- Bridgenag
  
  The whole thing is still outrageous
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:01am
- Inandout
  
  SO, the exodus of capital from New York thanks to this scary fine by the Judge is the real reason for this. Investors see this happening to them should the city run short of money and the Mayor begins seizing assets. Such a shame such a great city has been effectively destroyed.
  
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  March 26, 2024 9:09am
  - MCōs
    
    NY isn’t Temuka
    I don’t think half a billion dollars moving somewhere else will effect it much.
    
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    March 26, 2024 9:33am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Ohhh… I think a number of real estate developers were considering leaving already. A lot of former finance related jibs that were performed in Manhatten now occur in other places like New Jersey ir even further afield.
      
      The attack on Trump is just another signal that New York is self destructing and attempting to becone another SanFran… A husk full of fentanol addicts shitting on the sidewalk.
      
      Democrats… DPF loves them for some reason.. Or maybe he just has a bad case if OrangeMan-itisis
      
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      March 26, 2024 9:43am
    - RoboRob
      
      This is another nail in the coffin. NY already had a population exodus and this will only push it along. There is apparently a huge amount of vacant commercial property.
      
      https://www.empirecenter.org/publications/nys-post-pandemic-population-loss-slowed-a-bit-last-year-but-still-worst-in-u-s/
      
      https://fortune.com/2024/02/25/commercial-office-real-estate-crisis-vacancy-remote-work-new-york-city-doom-loop/
      
      https://www.reuters.com/markets/real-estate-leader-ny-fed-board-warns-commercial-real-estate-risks-2023-03-24/
      
      Also anyone who has seen old Luis Rossman (apple repair man) videos will know that it is common practice for the size and value of properties to be overstated. Luis did these videos well before the Trump charges. IF the law Trump is being charged with was applied to all there would be thousands of property owners in significant trouble. Of course the NY governor came out to assure people it was only going to be applied to Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/18/trump-verdict-new-york-business-governor-kathy-hochul).
      
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      March 26, 2024 10:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Big Apple has become The Swamp.
    Democrats.
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:28am
- kevn
  
  SteveO… Yes, a Trump voter winning unintended consequence.
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:24am
- thirteenstars
  
  Kelly talking with Knowles in which they discuss the glee that the NY prosecutor and others can barely conceal–indeed don’t even bother to–over Trump; from this point on:
  
  https://youtu.be/EJSbUkYM8Ig?si=G9pz-1BIWkBRgj0j&t=141
  
  Yup. Political persecution. First they came for Trump.
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:34pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The gloating will change post November.
    
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    March 26, 2024 3:44pm
Swifty

So, this is Hipkins on his recent and significant ‘relaunch’ of Labour post their election thrashing – have a listen to the interview:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/chris-hipkins-talks-labour-in-opposition-tax-race-and-staying-on-as-leader-the-front-page/ERWX2CE67JCSLCNPU5HPQOY3V4/

One point I’d make is that in the entirety of the interview not once did he say anything about growing NZ’s wealth, not one thing on growing the pie, not one thing on enhancing our international competitiveness – no just basically that we aspire to be a first world nation and that we need to tax ourselves more to achieve it.

Labour have become solely consumed with redistribution.

It’s just so dispiriting.

Labour aren’t even trying anymore. They have given up. They are a party of losers for losers.
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March 26, 2024 9:37am
- Swifty
  
  *party, apologies.
  
  [Mod – fixed]
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:29am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    If that’s what they take to the next election they will be smashed.
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:58am
- PurplePen
  
  I haven’t listened to the Herald interview but Hipkins was also interviewed by Pkunket on The Platform yesterday. In this, in relation to the brutal baby killings and maiming and no-one dobbing anyone in Hipkins said “We really have to change our culture … “. I was a little offended as none of that had been nor is part of our NZ culture.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:03am
  - Damocles11
    
    Infanticide was part of Maori culture:
    
    ‘Cannibalism lasted for several hundred years until the 1830s although there were a few isolated cases after that, said Professor Moon, a Pakeha history professor at Te Ara Poutama, the Maori Development Unit at the Auckland University of Technology.
    
    He also said infanticide was also widely practised because tribes wanted men to be warriors and mothers often killed their female daughters by smothering them or pushing a finger through the soft tissue of the skull to kill them immediately.’
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:19am
    - kowtow
      
      Yer but Ardern was very proud about her dedication to infanticide too , with plenty of support in the House .
      That’s “progressive”.
      Innit.
      
      Other than eating other people has New Zealand really changed that much.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:17pm
Maggie Pie

The deleted tweet.

We certainly dodged a bullet when that Jew hating Golriz Ghaharaman got caught out thieving.

What I never knew previously, was that Golly spent time preaching in Parliament that Jesus’s mother Mary, and his dad Joseph…..were “Palestinian refugees”!

https://timesofisrael.com/new-zealand-lawmaker-says-jesus-mother-was-palestinian-refugee/

I’ve always said the Greens were all Antichrists anyway.
You can tell that just by looking at them 🙁
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March 26, 2024 9:56am
- mandk
  
  Thanks Maggie.
  
  For those who may not be familiar with the Biblical account, Jesus, Mary and Joseph were refugees from Herod the Great, who was a Jewish king of Judea and a client king of the Roman rulers.
  
  The family fled to Egypt when Herod ordered the massacre of all male infants aged less than two, after he was visited by the wise men from the East who came in search of the newborn king.
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:56am
  - waripori
    
    Wasn’t that Moses? Mary and Joseph had to travel somewhere for a census. If they had been able to do it on line there is a pretty good chance Jesus would not have been counted and everything would look a bit different now.
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:13am
    - mandk
      
      Moses was born in Egypt about 1500 years before Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judah.
      
      The account of the life of Moses starts in the Old Testament book of Genesis; the first book in the Bible.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:37pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Read Matthew 2…..
      
      13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:49pm
- Che Guava
  
  Why does the Times of Israel care if someone claims Jesus was Palestinian rather than Jewish?
  
  Religious Jews hate and reject Jesus, and, by definition, secular atheist Jews reject him too, and it is their rejection of Jesus that defines them as religious Jews, rather than Christians. If Jews accepted Jesus, they’d be Christians. But they don’t accept him.
  
  With Jesus’s coming, Hebrews either accepted him and became Christians, or they rejected him and adopted what became Rabbinical Talmudic Judaism. The two religions are incompatible, because the one utterly rejects the premise of the other.
  
  Obviously, Jews don’t want Christians to think Jesus was a Palestinian, because then the Jews may lose the support of Christendom (broadly, the West, but principally America). This is nothing to do with misattributing Jesus’ heritage, but everything to do with keeping the Christian world fighting Israel’s battles for it, or at least supporting them.
  
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  March 26, 2024 6:52pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    In 1959 I got third prize for good attendance at Sunday School. I am no Spring Chicken.
    I have learned more about Christianity reading the Gospel according to Che Guava than I learned at Sunday School.
    Che, good on ya mate. Your posts on this blog are appreciated.
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:31pm
Muttonbird

Have to laugh at Pakeha elite losing their rag over no sailing on Saturday.

This is the sport which regularly can’t sail because of either not enough wind or too much wind!
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March 26, 2024 10:24am
- Don Beckett
  
  What a splendid observation, oh Muttonturd.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:26am
- imalwaysright
  
  I think they were upset because the racing was cancelled because a group of iwi, pretending to be conservationists and the guardians of a very specific sea creature, in return for a large sum of money, felt the need to justify themselves and their faux concern.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:29am
- julesnzuk
  
  What the hell is “pakeha elite”? Do you mean European New Zealanders who want to see NZ open to the world, hosting big events etc? Do you think Europeans have the monopoly on that way of thinking? Maori and other ethnic minorities too insular and small minded, according to your worldview? Racist much?
  
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  March 26, 2024 1:06pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Muttonhead has seen many dolphins slaughtered by sailing boat foils,
  Wonder how many? How about some numbers Mutton?
  
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  March 26, 2024 3:51pm
  - MikeS
    
    Coutts and co willingly signed up to the rules and regulations and are now whining like little schoolboys. BooHoo. What a dosser!
    
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    March 27, 2024 12:33am
Muttonbird

On Saturday, Farrar said:

For political polls the primary voting question should be asked before any other question which could influence it.

Presumably statements which could influence the question are ok because here he is influencing answers with statements before the primary question is asked:

The poll, carried out by pollster Curia, asked: “Auckland’s mayor has said that leasing out the management of the port, while still retaining ownership of the port land, will deliver much higher financial returns to the council.

“If council could deliver a much higher return, would you support the port management being leased out, or would you prefer it to continue with the status quo and lower financial returns but keep full ownership?”

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/25/auckland-port-lease-mayor-holds-report-yet-to-be-made-public/
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March 26, 2024 10:32am
- cmm
  
  Good observation, but…
  
  I do not know how DPF runs his operation, but I suspect:
  * He advises the clients on how to structure questions.
  * The client makes the final decision on the structure of the questions, often making different choices.
  
  Thus it is highly likely that not all DPF’s work follows his best advice.
  
  I know that in my case, my clients often do not follow my advice, but I still work for them anyway.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:45am
- imalwaysright
  
  Its a very badly composed question.
  
  A summary of the context is necessary, but it should have been a set of pro and con bullet points separate to the subsequent question:
  
  Should the management of the port be leased out?
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:22pm
- jkt
  
  It is about the sequence of questions.
  That statement is providing context for the question.
  
  Two different issues.
  
  His example in his opinion piece was pretty straight forward. If you are really interested, go back and read it again.
  
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  March 26, 2024 1:59pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew5w6PyI66Y
Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso to Form a Confederation.

We’ll probably see more confederations in South America and Africa in the near future. Industrialization and the need to advance economic opportunities outside of poverty will only force states to pool their resources together. Morocco signed a deal to give the three countries an access to the Atlantic Ocean through Dakhla airport in the Moroccan Western Sahara.
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March 26, 2024 10:59am
- cmm
  
  I for one think these local confederations etc are a good thing:
  * They might start acting in ways that bring about some regional stability (eg. addressing terrorism).
  * They have some shared infrastructure needs (eg. roads).
  * It will perhaps build some local governance competence. Africa really has to stop blaming colonialism for everything – and grow up.
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:41am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yeah, I agree. There should be more of them.
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:12pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    When it comes to local governance competence I hope they look at Rwanda.
    The first of those supposedly “shithole” countries to institute a proper income tax system and give some importance to the auditing profession.
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:35pm
- Keith White
  
  FasoMaNi?
  
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  March 26, 2024 5:08pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSxBuOu92w
Trump Just Made 3 Billion Dollars, and the Democrats are Furious!
Truth Social has been floated on Wall Street. He can’t touch any of the money for a while.
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March 26, 2024 10:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  We all know he is going to win in many ways.
  Would you play poker with this man?
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:34am
  - MCōs
    
    More to the point would he play poker with any of us?
    Of course not, he’s not interested in some wretched boot licker in NZ, but keep buying those MAGA hats
    
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    March 26, 2024 1:44pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Those hats were FREE!!!
      
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      March 26, 2024 5:26pm
  - sungsamning
    
    No, I’d lose my shirt. I don’t have a poker face.
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:13pm
Ghost

Stuff live thread on the Chinese hacking of the nz government

China hacking revelations
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March 26, 2024 11:32am
- cmm
  
  Of course everyone is hacking everyone else.
  
  If we are not hacking the Chinese then why do we have 5 eyes?
  
  But when this stuff gets reported in the media you’ve got to ask yourself: why are they telling us this? What heap of bullshit are they really trying to sell us?
  
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  March 26, 2024 11:38am
  - Ghost
    
    I always look for what isn’t being widely reported with smoke screens like this
    
    But I love the part about no sanctions. Imagine putting a sanction on china, shit, most our crap comes from there.
    
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    March 26, 2024 11:41am
    - Philview
      
      Agree, our economy is already in big trouble and kept afloat by China. Now is not the time to push hard.
      
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      March 26, 2024 12:49pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Anything to do with the Chinese members of the New Zealand Parliament who quit suddenly?
  Here’s one of them
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/national-mp-jian-yang-to-retire-from-politics-following-election/4K2OLLQA2PFANAKCAGLBXCLXQ4/?c_id=1&objectid=12347051
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:26pm
Ghost

Couriers will be busy come election time, having to deliver to every house. Hmmmm, no, they’ll just say no one home pick up from the post office……

NZ Post has confirmed its plans to stream mail into the parcel network, which the union believes could subsequently result in hundreds of jobs being axed.

NZ Post announced on Tuesday it would progressively stream mail into its parcel network to “create a sustainable and cost-effective service through one network”.

Article
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March 26, 2024 11:39am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Isn’t this what is known in business as streamlining your productivity efficiencies?
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:05pm
- kowtow
  
  Te media paahti pearl clutchers wailing and getting panties in a twist ?
  
  Nope .They won’t cos they can’t pin it on Seymour or Peters .
  
  Crickets.
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:09pm
- Taieri
  
  I’m waiting for a small parcel from China. It was dispatched from Hong Kong in the evening on the 23rd of March and arrived in Auckland in the early hours of the morning on the 24th of March. The estimated time of delivery to my home address in the South Island is the 2nd of April.
  
  Is it “sustainable” and “cost effective”? I’m not sure…
  
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  March 26, 2024 12:47pm
  - Ghost
    
    Interesting. I’ve got avpackage coming from China, arrived directly in Christchurch today, expected delivery tomorrow, nz post. Last week had one arrived in Auckland, Aramex, took 3 days. The ones I hate are USPS. Takes a long time to leave the US and more times fucked up than not. Once it went to the UK, Back to USA then to NZ. Another time it spent a week in Japan. I can’t complain though, I’ve never had to pay gst on the USA ones.
    
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    March 26, 2024 1:04pm
    - Taieri
      
      The one I’m waiting for is handled by NZ Post.
      
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      March 26, 2024 3:37pm
      - greybeard
        
        What is the matter with you and Ghost ?
        Buy NZ Made !
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:43pm
      - Ghost
        
        Nz doesn’t make what I buy.
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:54pm
nathie

Next time the Labour/Greens/TPM/Lefties whinge about the Govt getting tough against thuggish Kāinga Ora tenants, perhaps the Govt or MSM can interview this Maori woman or quote her saying the following:

The woman said one of the gatecrashers was from a brand new Kāinga Ora complex on Manuka St and another came from a Kāinga Ora home further down the street.

“They were always together so I’m not surprised.”

Since the complex went up, there had been trouble.

“I went to see Kāinga Ora yesterday and I said, ‘You folks need to take some accountability, some responsibility; you need to put proper tenants in your properties.’

“The answer was, ‘They’re not actually on the tenancy agreements; their partners are.’ I said, ‘Well, you need to make their partners choose – a home for their kids or their man with a patch.'”

Well said!!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350225846/gatecrashed-knives-relative-describes-moment-gisborne-stabbing
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March 26, 2024 11:44am
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum called by earlier and us dropped off 2 dozen bluffies.
I’ll do an entree tonite with a creamy Champagne sauce.
She was telling me her Super is going up from April 1st …..
enuff for an extra bottle of her fave ‘Dog Point Sav’ every fortnite.
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March 26, 2024 12:00pm
- cmm
  
  Before your partner’s mum gets too excited, remind her that her super might being going up one bottle of sav in April, but inflation has cost her two bottles of sav in the last year…
  
  So she’s still really a bottle down.
  
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  March 26, 2024 1:38pm
Damocles11

I’m going to assume any company still advertising with NZME or Stuff is owned and operated by far leftists, and actively avoid their products. The leftist MSM are a threat to democracy, yet many are still happy to fund them. I’m particularly disgusting with the real estate industry, as it should be easy enough to set up their own version of ‘OneRoof’ which would negate the need to fill NZME’s coffers.
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March 26, 2024 12:35pm
Maggie Pie

“Was it one of them again, Yogi?”

“It’s always them Boo-Boo”

https://twitter.com/SabrinaSmolders/status/1772358845064483164

🙁 🙁 🙁
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March 26, 2024 1:08pm
Libertarians are right

Yesterday I had an argument with a couple of Pro CGT people who don’t understand why CGT creates an unreasonable situation. I’ll try to rephrase the situation and show why simply not having a CGT is the best option:

Business to business transactions are usually treated equally in this country. I sell a service to your company and I pay tax on my income and you claim the expense. Equal treatment. Sometimes, due to the matching principle, the payer has to expense the cost over a longer period of time (i.e. asset depreciation), this is because the expense relates to multiple periods whereas the income only relates to one period and therefore is taxable in the year it got earned.

Goodwill is at the moment not taxable nor deductible in this country (we can’t claim amortisation in our tax returns). Bringing in a Capital Gains tax would make the income side taxable while the expense side wouldn’t be which is unequal and against the normal treatment of transactions in our country (Labour’s non-deductibility of interest for property investors is another example of unequal treatment).
Allowing the deduction of amortisation of Goodwill in the buyer’s accounts would allow for equalisation but the calculation of how the Goodwill would be amortised would be difficult and very dependent on a huge number of factors.
There is also the issue that the Capital Gain is effectively a prepayment of future income and therefore should be attributed to those future periods which again has way too many variables and would need to be consistent with the Amortisation of the Goodwill which would result in a huge amount of compliance costs. (note that Goodwill generally only has a limited life span at which point the Goodwill you purchased has been replaced by Goodwill and relationships you yourself have created – this is why Goodwill is amortised)

Or; you could treat it like we do with GST on land and simply take the tax off the transaction completely which ensures equal treatment without all the unnecessary fluffing around.
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March 26, 2024 1:10pm
- Ian Boag
  
  Purchase price of asset = $x. Sale price of asset = $y. Capital gain/loss – $(y-x).
  
  What’s hard about that?
  
  Depreciation has nothing to do with it – a book entry which is taken care of at the time by claiming an income tax credit. If you later sell the asset for more than its depreciated book value, there is a clawback. That is not a CGT …
  
  If you sell the asset with some retained earnings in the books they are added to the input cost or subtracted from the output – it makes no difference. Or youcan just sort it out by paying a dividend.
  
  We are very much an outlier in the CGT world. Just saying. I have not read of any other countries with CGT in place having significant agitation to do away with it. Again – just saying.
  
  The “tax on inflation” thing is dealt with in most countries that I know of by having a specified lower than normal rate (Canada) or discounting the CGT tax rate to about half of what it would normally be (Australia). Tends to end up at about 15% or so.
  
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  March 26, 2024 2:48pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Huh?
    I’m talking about capital gains on the sale of a business to another person.
    
    My Depreciation example was to show how assets with a limited life time covering more than one period are expensed which is relevant for Goodwill. We don’t allow amortisation of Goodwill in this country which is the other side of CGT on the sale of Goodwill (which is also non-taxable so creates a net tax position of $nil as inter-business transactions should).
    
    Again, it doesn’t matter that we are an outlayer – just because another country does something doesn’t make it correct.
    
    However, note that while Australia, France and the UK no longer allow claiming amortisation, the US, Canada, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, South Korea, Japan and a bunch of others do so your “everyone else does it” falls over on my point of CGT on Goodwill.
    
    Simply removing CGT on Goodwill and not allowing amortisation is by far and away the tidiest and most effective way to handle taxing Goodwill.
    
    What’s hard about that? It is hard to be fair and the knowledge base of random people on the internet isn’t really enough to cover the intricacies of tax law and accounting practices, beyond “other countries do it” of course.
    
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    March 26, 2024 4:02pm
- MikeS
  
  I really hope you’re not an accountant.
  
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  March 27, 2024 12:37am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

TOW Comic Part 28.
To sail from NZ to London was 3 months, so 6 months return.
There was no email, text, fax, or phone. No Google or Facebook. Just ships.
Strange, I thought Maori owned the air waves. It’s in the Treaty – somewhere.//

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-28/?
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March 26, 2024 1:30pm
Keith White

Japanese study online 15th March: Concerns regarding Transfusions of Blood Products Derived from Genetic Vaccine Recipients and Proposals for Specific Measures

“…many countries around the world have reported that so-called genetic vaccines, such as those using modified mRNA encoding the spike protein and lipid nanoparticles as the drug delivery system, have resulted in post-vaccination thrombosis and subsequent cardiovascular damage, as well as a wide variety of diseases involving all organs and systems, including the nervous system. In this article, based on these circumstances and the volume of evidence that has recently come to light, we call the attention of medical professionals to the various risks associated with blood transfusions using blood products derived from people who have suffered from long COVID and from genetic vaccine recipients, including those who have received mRNA vaccines…”

“If we continue to use genetic vaccines such as mRNAs and mRNA-LNP platforms, there will be further risks like those… impact of these genetic vaccines on blood products and the actual damage caused by them are unknown at present.

“Therefore, in order to avoid these risks and prevent further expansion of blood contamination and complication of the situation, we strongly request that the vaccination campaign using genetic vaccines be suspended and that a harm–benefit assessment be carried out as early as possible, as called for by Fraiman et al. and Polykretis et al. [27,31–33].

“As we have repeatedly stated, the health injuries caused by genetic vaccination are already extremely serious, and it is high time that countries and relevant organizations take concrete steps together to identify the risks and to control and resolve them.”

So are we now gonna follow the science in NZ? Heck, no, not this science! /sarc.
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March 26, 2024 2:21pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  No we call it something else now, mata – something.
  
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  March 26, 2024 2:35pm
- kevn
  
  Keith… I have been wondering about this years now. Don’t like what I see.
  
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  March 26, 2024 2:57pm
Maggie Pie

One of the girls at tennis (she’s a phlebotomist), was telling us that an Undertaker friend was telling her…. that the elderly (over 80’s) and particularly those in public Care, should avoid getting the ‘flu vaccine’ 🙁

I won’t go into the reasons why at this stage, but has anyone else heard this?
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March 26, 2024 3:33pm
- greybeard
  
  A phlebotomist, Maggie ! They are the worst bloody people to have as friends.
  
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  March 26, 2024 5:36pm
Chuck Bird

There are probably no Muslims here but in case there are I have a question. The male Muslims believe that they will have 72 virgins after they die.
What I would like to know is what are the females promised?
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March 26, 2024 3:41pm
- cmm
  
  ” The male Muslims believe that they will have 72 virgins after they die.”
  
  Chuck. I am not a Muslim, but this 72 virgins thing is a myth. The truth is far more chilling than that.
  
  The actual text says something like:
  * 2 doe-eyed maidens (ie. virgins) eager to do your bidding.
  * 70 women taken from the men you have conquered to be raped at your pleasure.
  
  Remember that a woman is a chattel. Raping a woman is not considered a sexual act on the woman, rather it is a way of humiliating the man who is supposed to be her owner/protector (ie. father, husband, brother).
  
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  March 26, 2024 3:57pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thanks for the reply. However, I cannot see what is in it for the women. Do they get to have sex with Mohamad?
    
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    March 26, 2024 4:05pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Not neccessarily always a ‘woman’ either Chucky 🙁
      
      https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/915513749716467712
      
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      March 26, 2024 4:32pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        At least was not a pig. That would upset Mohamad.
        
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        March 26, 2024 4:35pm
  - sungsamning
    
    Thanks for that information I didn’t know.
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:20pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  They’re promised a husband (not necessarily the one they had on Earth).
  
  https://www.islamweb.net/en/article/158781/what-awaits-women-in-paradise
  
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  March 26, 2024 4:16pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thanks Maggy. Sadly there are some vulnerable women. The final of Gloriavale is on tonight.
    
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    March 26, 2024 4:29pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      There are vulnerable people in the grips of every dogma under the sun..
      
      Men who believe they’ll attain paradise by killing others.
      
      Gloriavale survives on the largesse of the NZ taxpayer.
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/government-to-investigate-gloriavale-s-use-of-working-for-families-payments.html
      
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      March 26, 2024 4:55pm
      - MCōs
        
        That investigation was initiated six years ago
        What has happened in the interim?
        
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        March 26, 2024 5:45pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Nothing….
        
        Gloriavale received $4.8 million in government funds in the year to July 2021, comprised of $2.3 million in Working for Families payments, $2 million in early childcare education grants, $283,000 in Ministry of Education grants and $229,000 for midwifery services.
        
        The Working for Families payments went into Gloriavale’s sharing account for living costs,
        
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/475818/gloriavale-received-nearly-5m-of-govt-money-in-2021-court-hears
        
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        March 26, 2024 7:10pm
  - Swifty
    
    More proof, if you needed it, that Islam is an invention of men.
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:01pm
  - Keith White
    
    I read that they get raisins…
    
    “It has been said that Muslim martyrs will be rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven, or paradise. But a growing number of Quran scholars and Islamic theologians have contested its interpretation.
    
    “In the CNN special show “Why They Hate Us” in 2016, Canadian author and Quran scholar Irshad Manji said the word “virgin” in the Quran meant “raisin.”
    
    “Nowhere in the Quran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. … The Arabic word for ‘virgin’ has been mistranslated. The original [word] that was used in the Quran was the word for raisin, not virgin. In other words, that martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins,” Manji said.
    
    And there we have it.
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Ask Chloe. She knows stuff you know….
  
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  March 26, 2024 5:52pm
- MikeS
  
  1/72nd of a small penis.
  
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  March 27, 2024 12:40am
Bobba Fret

Family outing gone wrong!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/family-trio-allegedly-stole-16000-worth-of-groceries-from-highland-park-auckland-supermarket/YRAC2NZXXJB2HPJCV7EPIN6DCU/
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March 26, 2024 3:49pm
- Swifty
  
  Quick! More wraparound help needed!
  
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  March 26, 2024 4:51pm
- DimChappie
  
  Six trolleys=$16,000. What could possibly be so valuable, meat? Alcohol?
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:48pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  X year jail sentence whittled down to 3 months on the couch at home with the victim footing the bill for the missing goods?
  
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  March 26, 2024 10:58pm
jkt

Brett Weinstein is on a mission.
Darien gap. International agencies assisting migrants to travel to the Southern border of America.

He claims there are mainly two types of migrants. Those we are looking for opportunity. He argues that there are very few who claim to be refugees looking for political asylum. And there are large numbers of mainly young Chinese men and some Chinese women housed in separate camps in the Darien province of Panama.

Busses laid on for the migrants by these agencies are waved through border controls as long as the basses pas through the countries south of the American border.

Glad we have a large moat.
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March 26, 2024 4:37pm
Ghost

Hopeful with all the money invested the past few years nothing happens to close the ski season this year…….

The latest observation of volcanic activity shows New Zealand’s largest volcano is experiencing an “uncommon style of earthquake activity” near its summit.

GNS Science found Mt Ruapehu has experienced up to six earthquakes a day over the last month.

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March 26, 2024 5:14pm
- MCōs
  
  “Eruptions at Ruapehu are expected to continue much as they have for the past 2,000 years, with frequent minor eruptions and more significant events every 20–30 years”
  Which is about now!!!
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ruapehu#:~:text=In%20recorded%20history%2C%20these%20eruptions,1969%2C%201975%2C%20and%202007.
  
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  March 26, 2024 5:51pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mangere mountain may blow as well.
    You work for the Govt right? Now would you like another ‘working group’ to study this?
    
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    March 26, 2024 5:59pm
  - Keith White
    
    Guessing that squatting at the Chateau is not high on the “freedom-campers” list of to-do’s right now…
    
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    March 26, 2024 8:39pm
Ghost

Damn

A portion of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in the US city of Baltimore has collapsed after a large ship collided with it.

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