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Opie

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/pink-fan-awaiting-ankle-surgery-after-being-shoved-stood-on-by-fellow-concert-goer-at-eden-park/7HNNQL6GX5AZ5LMAOQ3IZFT26U/

HIS leg. HE broke HIS leg at the pink concert.

I would suggest most of the story didn’t happen either.

Can’t wait for this madness to be over.
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March 16, 2024 8:03am
- Loddenthinks
  
  The people that kicked him were carrying a noose and shouting “This is MAGA country!”
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:13am
  - MCōs
    
    Who’s the him?
    
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    March 16, 2024 10:24am
    - Opie
      
      Did you look at the photo of the woman and the man with pink hair and a dress pretending to be a woman?
      
      I’m sure you can work it mcos but happy for you to take one for the team amd go in for a closer look if that’s your thing?
      
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      March 16, 2024 10:46am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Seems to be quite a bit of bumfluff, or is that bad lighting?//
        
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        March 16, 2024 2:30pm
    - Jack5
      
      At least the Pink broken-ankle report contained names.
      
      Not so with Foaming Tova’s attack at Stuff on Luxon over police pay.
      
      “The wife of a constable with six years service …”
      
      No name. We just have to trust Tova. 🙄 🙄
      
      Of course police, like those in other occupations, will be attracted by higher wages in Australia. It’s richer than NZ: 30th in the world in GDP per capita, while NZ is 42nd.
      
      Luxon’s at least trying to get us on a growth track after the Ardern-Chippy years of mismanagement – and the inflation from scandalous “printing” of tens of billions of dollars through bond transactions during Covid.
      
      Then we might be able to pay our police more.
      
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      March 16, 2024 11:02am
      - Swifty
        
        Well said.
        
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        March 16, 2024 11:39am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        What a load of crap that was, just two weeks ago police stated that morale have lifted greatly, so just one disagreement with pay negotiations that are not final and the whole police force has gone to the dogs.
        
        Firstly Luxon is not negotiating, apparently it’s the ministry negotiating. No word of out rage when Labour have done nothing in the negotiations for a year.
        This woman will be a unionist hack complaining about not being able to look after her 6 kids
        
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        March 16, 2024 12:04pm
      - pdm
        
        You read or listen to Tova podcasts?
        
        A braver man than I Gunga Din!!!
        
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        March 16, 2024 5:11pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Noticed that the reporters tag line says that she covers breaking news!
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:05am
Matt Long

What is it with Social Justice Warriors and not paying staff?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350214591/darleen-tana-case-former-employees-speak-out
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350213355/christine-rankin-get-wage-arrears-former-employer-which-remain-unpaid?cx_testId=48&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=4#cxrecs_s
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March 16, 2024 8:03am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Wishful thinking instead of concrete plans is their modus operandi.
  
  How can bad things happen to good unicorns??
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:06am
  - greenfinger
    
    One by one, the Greens are being exposed, and their true colour is definitely not green!
    
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    March 16, 2024 11:09am
    - jkt
      
      These people give all businesses a bad name!!
      
      Maybe we need a new law prohibiting Marxists from owning and running businesses.
      
      These people give capitalism a bad name ….. is this on purpose?? or just pure incompetence???
      
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      March 16, 2024 12:09pm
- David Garrett
  
  Matt: Interesting that the Tana case is getting so much coverage. It is almost as if the MSM have a centre right MP in their cross hairs…Hoping the Nats will prop them up as Labour did?
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:10am
  - jkt
    
    Demonstrating just how hard it is to run a profitable business …. What the hell is happening here!
    Stuff, has lost the plot?
    
    It is so easy to run a business that even communists thrive in NZ running businesses. Yeah, right.
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:30pm
  - Philview
    
    I have been suspicious where this is heading. The sort of people who vote Green will not care about this anyway. Labour’s route back to power relies on not scaring swing voters away with extreme elements in their coalition partners.
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:58pm
- mandk
  
  Not surprising, really.
  
  Karl Marx had a servant whom he didn’t pay.
  
  Four legs good, two legs better!
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:41am
- Vinicius
  
  I hope I’m incorrect but are Darleen Tana and Christian Hoff-Nielsen going to try and use the excuse that they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong?
  
  This is mentioned on Stuff today.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350214591/darleen-tana-case-former-employees-speak-out
  
  I assume ‘Ignorantia juris non excusat’ (ignorance is no excuse under the law) applies in NZ? Perhaps it doesn’t apply to the self-righteous Greenies.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:37am
  - rouppe
    
    If they say “we didn’t know it was illegal to hire someone on a visitor visa” or “we didn’t know it was illegal to not pay people” they would be laughed out of court.
    
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    March 16, 2024 10:09am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He knows alright, this is his second strike
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:08pm
  - PurplePen
    
    Nope. Stress causes mental health issues which in turn causes illegal treatment of immigrants in employment. Simple really. Quite obvious and all above board.
    
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    March 16, 2024 2:24pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Chloe will sort everything out Matt Long, be patient, it won’t be long.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:36am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What like the fact that Golriz has a friend and work mate as her judge, and the way they flew Cullens Brother in law into Auckland to dismiss the Labour Party youth criminal
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:10pm
  - jkt
    
    I was told she is running workshops to help greenies understand how Marxist do business.
    These two were her first graduates.
    
    This is just Stuff advertising Chloe’s newest business venture.
    
    The business model objective is:
    How to demonstrate that capitalism fails!
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:37pm
Chuck Bird

It is cold. Bring on global warming.

Seriously, about seven times as many people die from extreme cold as extreme heat.

Source, Bjorn Lomborg.
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March 16, 2024 8:04am
- Jade Warrior
  
  It’s also getting too dark in the mornings. End daylight saving!
  
  In fact, before the Helen Clark government decided that an extension of daylight saving might boost their popularity (they were about 20 points behind National in the polls at the time) daylight savings would be ending tonight. If only.
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:11am
- G152
  
  Beware the global whitening
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:13am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Sorry Chuck Bird – I love NZ’s cold weather.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:37am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Heavey snow at Nasbey yesterday
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:11pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqSp2cq0HqM
TikTok Ban: The Shocking Truth.
Is a TikTok ban the solution? Or is the new TikTok bill massive government overreach akin to the Patriot act? And what exactly is China’s connection to TikTok and the Chinese company Bytedance that owns it?
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March 16, 2024 8:09am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Firstly, its highly likely that TikTok is a wonderful wee trojan to the hardware it resides on – like most other kit/software with connections to China.
  
  That said, the way the bill is written means it can be used by pollies to shut down any platform they dont like – TT is just the nasty horrible eveil target to get the public onside.
  
  Anything to shut down Trump and Elon. Land of the (used to be) Free.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:37am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, its not a good law. I understand one of President Trumps friends is forming a consortium to buy it
    
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    March 16, 2024 6:23pm
- thirteenstars
  
  It certainly violates the First Amendment and SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional.
  
  That aside, Trump is playing smart politics by opposing the ban since it’s hugely unpopular, especially with younger voters who normally lean Left. Biden supports the ban.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:53am
- kowtow
  
  Window dressing.
  
  US labs , tech, the lot were opened to the Chinese Reds decades ago .
  
  The only Prez to make real noises about it was Orange Man Bad and the Establishment did everything in their power to take him down and keep him down.
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:01pm
- Che Guava
  
  The “problem” with Tik Tok is that the Americans can’t censor it, and the kids love it because it’s a much better product than the American social media apps. Tik Tok also isn’t curated to give the most popular (read, controlled) influencers exposure.
  
  The US significantly censors anti-Israel sentiment on its apps (Facebook, Instagram, YouTube etc.) but it cannot touch TikTok so anti-Israel/pro-Palestine content abounds there. This is intolerable when narrative control is crucial.
  
  Here’s the perceived danger: what if people are free to make up their own minds instead of being told what to believe? What if the kids start not hating Hitler, or backing the Palestinians, or criticising the Jews and Israel? We can’t have that, so let’s change the law in “free” America.
  
  https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2024/03/13/jewish-federations-of-north-america-jnfa-backs-banning-of-tiktok-in-us-due-to-anti-israel-hate-content/
  
  “The Jewish Federations of North America (JNFA) has issued an open letter in support of a new bill – HR 7521 – proposed in the US House of Representatives that would see the banning of TikTok in America…..However, the JNFA supports the ban because TikTok has enabled the proliferation of anti-Israel and anti-Semitic propaganda since the barbaric massacre enacted by the terrorist group Hamas on October 7, 2023.”
  
  “The JNFA charged that TikTok is the “worst offender by far” in the proliferation of such materials.”
  
  So this is what it’s really all about – narrative control.
  
  The “Chinese having your data” argument is just a convenient red herring too: why would Beijing having everyone’s data be worse than Washington having everyone’s data, when the latter’s use of your data has potentially far worse real world consequences than some Chinese official having it?
  
  Ironic that the “totalitarian” Chinese make a better product that more people genuinely want than the “free” United States, whose government controls the large social media companies based on what their donors want, and cracks down on anything that contradicts their control narrative.
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:46pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

So, earlier this week the media were putting the boot into rugby for CTE brain injuries. Meanwhile, over the weekend, they’ll be waxing lyrical over MME.

So much cognitive dissonance that you have to wonder whether the media are brain damaged.
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March 16, 2024 8:10am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkU8sC_sUrc
BREAKING: Judge McAfee In Georgia Case Issues Ruling On Disqualification Of Corrupt DA Fani Willis.
Fani, or Nate have to go. The case against President Trump can continue. [So, the Dems can do what they want to get Trump.]
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March 16, 2024 8:10am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It weakens their argument, and it pushes the dates back further, the later in the year, the more an appeal will be after the election, the US people have woken up, Trump is now getting the sympathy vote, and they blame Biden
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:17pm
G152

So who is running the book on which green goes next?
And have they successfully determined those who have gone before.
Drunk driving
Five finger discounts
Slavery
What the hell next from these paragons of virtue
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March 16, 2024 8:13am
- imalwaysright
  
  What is it with NZ gangs and primary colours!?
  Red
  Blue
  and now Green.
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:15am
- kowtow
  
  Don’t forget genocidal screeching and terror chic fashion.
  
  But she got promoted .
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:02pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  You would think Luxon is a crazed murderer the way the vulgar media is going on
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:18pm
- PurplePen
  
  You forgot about bullying .. Green MP Kerekere.
  
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  March 16, 2024 2:27pm
Chuck Bird

This is not on premium.

Green Party’s Darleen Tana scandal: Questions over what MP told colleagues

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/green-party-darleen-tana-scandal-questions-over-what-mp-told-party/X7T54UR4TRCY7HHGZOFCD6KB3E/
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March 16, 2024 8:15am
- John Loveridge
  
  The scandal appears to be getting deeper. Even the Greens themselves don’t trust Tana to tell them the truth.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:10am
- Loddenthinks
  
  it’s never the scandal that finds you out – it’s ALWAYS the cover-up
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:18am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Darleen Darleen Darleen – Keep going going going. Still the 12% unwashed in this country will vote the toxic Greens.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:39am
Bridgenag

Friday Funnies: Another Day in Paradise-
The Rematch…

sealioning explained and sky.au video a must watch

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/friday-funnies-another-day-in-paradise?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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March 16, 2024 8:16am
Bridgenag

the demoralization of surrender
make crime easy to prevent crime? Coming here soon……

“Toronto Police advise the public to reduce the risk of home invasions aimed at car theft by placing their key fobs near the front door. This strategy is suggested because culprits are primarily entering homes to access cars, not to steal other items.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/the-demoralization-of-surrender?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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March 16, 2024 8:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Defund the Police? In this case yes. Simply they are not doing the job.
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:54am
  - PhilBest
    
    You surely mean, to replace them with something else fit for purpose?
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:11am
    - rouppe
      
      A shotgun
      
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      March 16, 2024 10:11am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      This is Canada. Socialist wimps.
      
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      March 16, 2024 10:45am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Defund the police? No.
    
    Make the police enforce the real laws, instead of fake woke agendas? Yes.
    
    “Sir we are really sorry about the fraud/blackmail/crime committed against you. But if the amount involved is less than $200k and we have less than a 92.5% chance of being successful in a criminal prosecution, we can’t take the case on, even if you have clear irrefutable evidence.
    
    On the other hand, if you have a male in your family that thinks he is a girl, and a co-worker accidentally called him a ‘he’, we will be there boots and all.”
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:39am
- John Loveridge
  
  That invoked a spontaneous little fantasy of putting the key fob near the door just like the policeman said, but booby-trapped with enough explosive to blow the scrote’s fingers off. Does that make me an evil person?
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:13am
  - G152
    
    No!
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:43pm
- david
  
  Why didn’t they go the whole way and suggest that damage to front doors and locks could be minimised by leaving the keys in the car. Shallow thinking reactive idiots.
  
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  March 16, 2024 4:18pm
- peterwn
  
  Years ago a police officer suggested leaving $20 (perhaps $100 nowadays) in full view inside your house. The burglar will take off with that quickly and not trash your house.
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:42pm
Tomtoddy

What is this ‘tikanga’ thing? It seems it can be whatever takes your fancy. Some Māori commentators say spitting is good, some say bad, some say OK if it hits the target, others that it is important tradition.

Being a simple soul, I say it’s a dirty, disgusting, unclean thing and disrespectful if intentionally aimed at another person.
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March 16, 2024 8:21am
- I remember when
  
  At least one Freyberg student was truthful when asked about the free lunches, he wanted them continued because “they tasted good.”
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:58am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Some trouble maker told students Seymour was there to tell them to buy their own lunch.
    
    Something is going on in this country, these attacks on MPs snd ministers, media lies, the hijacking speeches like that guy did yesterday with Willis ( who handled it perfectly) the unions jumping up and down, the pathetic outrage over an unfinished pay negotiation with police, it all appears to be coming from the same place.
    
    Did I mention the rotten union saying they will poke their nose in if students were punished for spitting swearing and attacking Seymour’s car, (just imagine if this happened to Cindy) who do the unions Marxists think they are? And what power to these bastards think they have, I hope the principal says take a bloody hike
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:30pm
- Maggie's partner
  
  Tikanga is when you invite your pet Roo to share a light meal, mid arvo….as in shall we have Tikanga?
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:04am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You’re a funny bunny
    
    https://i.icanvas.com/NVH91?d=3&sh=h&s=xl&p=1&bg=c&t=1707962723
    
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    March 16, 2024 10:17am
- Cantabrian
  
  Its so wonderful that all law students are going to have to take classes in it from 1 Jan 2025. The fact that there is no single body of ‘lore’ about it, with each Iwi having its own version of Tikanga, makes a sitter for ongoing variable interpretation in the courts, as well as among those expert academics who like to lecture us about how good the natives are.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:45am
- Lee C
  
  Is it in the Treaty?
  
  If so it’s cool.
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:57am
- PurplePen
  
  Tikanga does include all sorts of disgusting traditions such as fattening up members of a neighbouring tribe until they’re ready to be eaten later but it doesn’t mean they’re traditions that are still ok in civilised 21st century society.
  
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  March 16, 2024 2:33pm
imalwaysright

Neil Young to return to Spotify after leaving because Joe Rogan started asking questions about covid.

I wonder if he still performs “The Needle and the Damage Done”…
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March 16, 2024 8:26am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Yep, Young’s stance only lasts as long as it takes for the money supply to fall away a bit. It’s a bit like the actors that say they are leaving America if Trump wins. Just like they all did before he won last time…..
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:02am
Bernard Black

Hmmm
So Golriz somehow jumps the que to her Court date, how? We do not know.
Just a few days later and another Green is in hot water.
Something smells fishy to me!
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March 16, 2024 8:31am
- John Loveridge
  
  The Greens have got so many misbehaving MPs that the scandals all have to be tightly scheduled else they’d be overwhelmed.
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:09am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She jumped the que to get her dear friend and ex colleague on as judge, she will be given discharge without conviction, this stinks to high heaven, a refugee must maintain high moral standards or get deported, this was not a one of, this was on going and only caught 4 times, how many times did she get away with stealing 1000s worth of goods
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:36pm
cas

Apologies if someone’s already posted this as I have been out of action for a few days.

The Listener political commentary says Luxon is a fast learner and one of his improvements is in being able to repeat a handful of empty phrases.

But, goes on to say the commentator, he is still an amateur compared with Chris Hipkins, let alone Jacinda Ardern , who was a Picasso of meaninglessness.

Loved that last description, but that side of her won’t appear in the documentary.
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March 16, 2024 8:40am
artemisia

“Enrolments at the University of Otago have fallen for the third year in a row …. Last year, Otago signalled job cuts when it reported a small drop in enrolments of 0.9 percent, blaming the “cumulative impact of ongoing Covid-19 disruption, the rising cost of study and a buoyant job market””

Not their fault then. Meanwhile,

“University of Waikato vice-chancellor Professor Neil Quigley said the number of students transferring from elsewhere was up by 19 percent.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/511835/university-enrolments-drop-at-otago-rise-at-waikato
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March 16, 2024 8:49am
- sirknz
  
  Oh no! Spare a thought for poor Robbo having to survive off his salary with no money available for a payrise next year…
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:58am
  - JackRabbit
    
    They’ll need to employ extra gardeners at the Otago Uni to clear away all the tumbleweeds.
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:50am
    - alwyn.a
      
      I suggest you have a look at the house the University supplies for the VC.
      A hectare of land. They’ll need a couple of gardeners just for that place.
      
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      March 16, 2024 2:53pm
  - G152
    
    Could get a part time job.
    Maybe as a bus driver
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:45pm
    - Beach Haven expat
      
      Or take in a couple of Filipino lodgers.
      
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      March 16, 2024 6:28pm
- Cassandra
  
  Heading south to endure cold and tikanga not compensated now by Speights. Mind you, Waikato got lotsa tikanga too. But warmer and closer to home.
  
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  March 16, 2024 8:58am
- David Garrett
  
  Art: I’m sure Otago law school will remain very popular with naughty girls from Auckland private schools…Way down there, far from Mummy and Daddy, they can “explore their sexuality” with gusto!
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:10am
  - John Loveridge
    
    Tell us how you know about this, David. 😁
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:14am
  - imalwaysright
    
    D.g
    
    Maybe in the good ‘ol days.
    
    These days they will probably be found in their dorms self flagellating with birch branches trying to purge their colonial
    whiteness!
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:22am
  - Dougal10
    
    The hall of residence’s are full of them and no need to brave the dunedin weather when there are 100s in the same building😀
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:37am
    - David Garrett
      
      Dougal: No apostrophe in residences…here’s a good rule of thumb: If you don’t know if a word takes an apostrophe or not, or you are unsure where it goes, don’t use it.
      
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      March 16, 2024 10:07am
      - Grumpy Silver Top
        
        And, in words like “you’re” think about the letters left out. You’re = you are.
        I wonder how many times we were reminded of this in our school days, so that it became automatic. Predictive text is a major culprit.
        
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        March 16, 2024 10:29am
      - David Garrett
        
        Grumpy: I literally wince when I see “potatoe’s” and “tomato’s” at a greengrocers. We have a greengrocer in Helensville who is a Fiji Indian – he clearly understands that “potatoes” doesn’t take an apostrophe.
        
        Surely a sad indictment on our schools that he “gets it” but many native born New Zealanders don’t? He probably got hit with a ruler when he got it wrong!
        
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        March 16, 2024 10:56am
      - artemisia
        
        And a useful one – the possessive its never splits.
        
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        March 16, 2024 11:23am
      - Dougal10
        
        Thanks I only got 37% in SC english and scraped a 42% in 6th form just enough to get UE accredited . The if in doubt leave it out will help my gramma .
        
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        March 16, 2024 12:05pm
      - Beach Haven expat
        
        In the spirit of the replies then David, it is native-born. Compound adjective and all that.
        
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        March 16, 2024 6:33pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Many Waikato students have possibly come by way of Auckland grid lock.
  
  Otago went woke and tried to change the name to Mauri, Otago had a brilliant name eorld wide for more than a 100 years, they will be suffering the same drop as Hoto Hone St John’s who has seen drops in donations including my own annual generous donation
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:41pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Yes At one stage we thought we would leave everything to them. Maybe go down the animal welfare road instead?
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:51pm
- miltonF
  
  It was so easily predictable. They really showed the public what kind of “science” they practice by supporting the previous govt with their Covid tyranny and all other absurdities such as the trans issue and climate change.
  
  They really went mask-off and revealed that they are not actually a centre of educational and scientific excellence, but more a centre of leftist , marxist indoctrination. Claiming that the vaccine was successful and men can become women will do that…
  
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  March 16, 2024 1:53pm
  - artemisia
    
    Otago is looking more like an ethno-uni – not going to have wide appeal to the lucrative foreign student market.
    
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    March 16, 2024 2:51pm
- sungsamning
  
  Otago must be crap if they’re transferring to Waikato.
  
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  March 16, 2024 6:34pm
Scott

According to Wikipedia, using the Gaza Health Ministry as their source, there have been a massive amount of civilian casualties in Gaza –
“As of 29 February, the Gaza Health Ministry reports that at least 30,000 Palestinians (including over 10,000 minors) have been killed, over 70,000 injured, and 10,000 are missing under rubble, totaling over 110,000 casualties since the war began, which is about 5% of Gaza’s 2.3 million population.

But how accurate are those numbers?
Statistics Professor Abraham Wyner is very sceptical –
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers

According to Wyner, the numbers are not real and don’t reflect how naturally occurring numbers work. For example:
– there has been a unnaturally regular increase of casualties rather than the variation one would expect depending on the ebb and flow of the war.

– There should be a correlation between the number of children killed and the number of women killed. But there is not.

– Most likely the numbers are made up. The daily totals increase too consistently to be real.
– The claimed 70% women and children casualties is far higher than previous conflicts with Israel.
– Adult male casualties are by contrast extremely low.
– Hamas blames all deaths on Israel, even those from their own misfired rockets.

Israel estimates that about 12,000 enemy fighters have been killed. Given the nature of urban warfare the number of civilian casualties would then be low by historical standards.
This represents a remarkable effort by the IDF to preserve civilian life when faced with an enemy who regularly and deliberately uses civilians as human shields.
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March 16, 2024 8:49am
- mandk
  
  Regardless of what the number is, every single death in this conflict, from 7 October 2023 onwards, is the responsibility of Hamas.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:25am
  - Conservatarian
    
    Free Palestine [from Hamas]!
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:07pm
  - kowtow
    
    Including the 5 who got bonked on the head by a failed parachute air drop.
    
    Why do they bother .
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:13pm
  - Che Guava
    
    “Regardless of what the number is, every single death in this conflict, from 7 October 2023 onwards, is the responsibility of Hamas.”
    
    On that basis, you must also think that every death in the Ukraine war since 2022 is the responsibility of the Ukrainians shelling Donbass for 8 years prior. After all, that is what the Russians were reacting to, so they must be blameless.
    
    Honestly, pretending that Israel has no agency and thus no responsibility for the carnage it is causing is delusional.
    
    OK, support Israel no matter what, but don’t insult peoples’ intelligence while you’re doing it.
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:56pm
- KH
  
  What formation do you think Hamas soldiers operate in.
  Mostly they live at home with their mothers and wives. Because they have nowhere else.
  You might imagine a seperate regular army. But it ain’t so.
  
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  March 16, 2024 3:33pm
- Jake Dee
  
  A bit of an update on this from The Jerusalem Post
  https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-791838
  “The article has not been received with unanimous approval, however. In a post to his blog, ‘Bits of DNA,’ the computational biologist Lior Pachter, himself Israeli, criticized Wyner’s article.
  
  The scientist suggesting that Wyner’s use of cumulative sums in his graph- in other words, showing all deaths reported thus far rather than only the number of deaths reported on each given day- created a misleading impression of regularity.
  
  The slope appears consistent in Wyner’s graphs, Pachter argued, but the slope of almost any cumulative graph would look that way at first glance, because the numbers can only go up.
  
  In addition, the daily increase is so small relative to the total sum that readers will have trouble distinguishing the difference between the different day-to-day increases. On a graph whose bottom limit was the sum total on the first day, rather than 0, those differences would be easier to identify.
  
  Readers would expect a ‘true’ graph of casualties to appear erratic, with the line moving up and down, and this is in fact what the daily reported casualty counts look like when plotted on a graph without the cumulative sums.
  
  Wyner was also criticized for using only a 15 day sample of the war, rather than a larger timeframe. ”
  
  My general rule of thumb here is if you see two experts disagree over a question that you yourself are not an expert in, then put it in the file labeled “I Don’t Know”.
  But only using 15 days of data for a war that’s been going on for 5 months definitely looks sus.
  Also another rule of thumb is if you see some sort of information processing technique being used in a hot button political issue, check out its use in an uncontroversial issue first. The death tolls in WWII are pretty settled, what does this technique do with those?
  If these techniques are brand new and are only being deployed here, then it’s highly sus.
  
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  March 16, 2024 4:42pm
Paulus

Tikanga is only the tip of the upcoming social disaster which we are seeing daily in young people believing they are beyond the rule of acceptable behavior.
We saw this a couple of days ago when the Deputy Education Minister was at Palmerston North and was spat upon, after a vigorous Haka, because it has been said that School Meals are to be reviewed.
On the media we saw a number of young people, who we now understand, believe the pupil suspended is a hero, and they made it clear they totally support what he and others did.
This is the continuation of the breakdown in our world started by Helen Clark and her two lady cohorts, Tizard and Wilson, to destroy the family unit.
They have been aided by Ardern and Robertson in their continuation of Marxism and what we are now seeing regularly as Anarchism at all levels of age and ethnicity.
I believe we are continuing only more speedily in the destruction of what we knew as New Zealand.
Our education for the last 30 years has led to parents and now their children of having no sense of responsibility, which is why we are and will continually lose our best educated children overseas, and unlike in the past, they will see nothing worth returning for except another poor South Pacific Island, with little law and order to defend its place in the world.
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March 16, 2024 8:54am
- nathie
  
  Tikanga (Māori customary practices) goes both ways.
  
  Using the recent example of students challenging and threatening Seymour, Seymour could have challenged and threatened the students in return. That’s tikanga in action on both sides.
  
  So those Maori “activists” (for lack of a better term) congratulating the students should really step back and think, do we really want both sides antagonising and potentially harming each other?
  
  After all in the true Te ao Māori world (pre-colonialism), customary values could have seen the likes of the upstart students being attacked in retaliation!
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:45am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    We should remind ourselves what happened when a senior chief was disrespected. That is tikanga!
    
    Google Te Rauparaha for one. Disrespect generated immediate and fatal consequences.
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:26pm
  - PurplePen
    
    Perhaps Seymour could have continued with some return tikanga and bundled the naughty students up in the next serving of school lunches.
    
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    March 16, 2024 2:37pm
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    Yes nathie, that’s exactly what the activists in the Maori Party want. As soon as the colonialists lash back, it allows them to play victim and ramp up the next level of opposition and gain more power.
    Remember, some bewildered old white man knocking on the door of the lass in the Waikato was spun as a white supremacist ramraid and secured a seat in Parliament. Tamihere admitted it was used to stir up support amongst “our people”.
    That’s why it’s important to hold the line at civil debate. Very hard to do in reality but remember, hitting back is what Half-Witti wants.
    
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    March 16, 2024 6:41pm
- Dougal10
  
  I’m trying to get mine educated enough to leave and get good jobs where they are appreciated for working hard, rather than treated as cash cows for the bludging class
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:46am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The vulgar unions say they ei stand up against the school and support poorly behaving students
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:43pm
PhilBest

Headline this morning:
“Inferno consumes bus on Waikato Expressway”

The journalists responsible don’t seem to think that anyone might be curious whether it is an electric bus or not, and if they are curious, they shouldn’t be.
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March 16, 2024 9:09am
- JackRabbit
  
  That would not make a good headline now would it.
  
  “Green EV bus pollutes atmosphere, puts public lives at risk.”
  
  And in any case, I saw it late last night on the news feeds, but it had disappeared this morning.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:00am
  - JohnRidd
    
    If it wasn’t an electric bus, they would have said.
    
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    March 16, 2024 2:28pm
- kevn
  
  Phil… Apparently the bus was being towed. Plot thickens.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/03/emergency-services-battle-bus-blaze-on-waikato-expressway.html?
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:19pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Definitely an electric then
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:44pm
  - JackRabbit
    
    In decades of driving I can’t recall a diesel / petrol bus being towed, let along bursting into flames.
    
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    March 16, 2024 1:31pm
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      So petrol and diesel buses never breakdown?
      
      It is highly unlikely that Pavelich would be operating electric buses on such a school trip.
      
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      March 16, 2024 3:03pm
    - Ghost
      
      I remember our bus breaking down on form 6 geography camp. Also seen a few buses break down down here and get towed once the passengers have been shifted to a replacement.
      
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      March 16, 2024 3:15pm
      - Dougal10
        
        It used to be a regular event when Richie’s ran the busses around here.
        
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        March 16, 2024 8:14pm
Maggie Pie

The next ‘Tama Iti’ is from Fryberg High in Palmy….

https://twitter.com/Ohheykenny/status/1768147316186448160

One can only imagine the family environment
and where HE’s likely to end up 🙁
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March 16, 2024 9:12am
- greybeard
  
  Maori kids running the school, teachers shit-scared all the time, what a mess.
  Close it down. Take pupils’ names for future reference.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:24am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    As Chris described them here on GD yesterday…. Scrotes.
    
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    March 16, 2024 10:38am
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    I imagine the relevant authorities already have those names. On multiple files.
    
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    March 16, 2024 6:44pm
- nathie
  
  Suggest Ministerial security embrace te ao maori values!
  
  Meaning that as well as standard Police protection, they are also accompanied by a dozen or so Maori warriors proficient in hand-to-hand combat brandishing Patu and Taiaha to greet and respond to any challenges against Ministers …. that’ll have the likes of protesting turds turd their pants! 🤣
  
  https://www.armymuseum.co.nz/maori-weapons/
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:08am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  “Tiny” Freyberg VC will be spinning in his grave.
  
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  March 16, 2024 11:26am
JC60

Tova O’Brian does a partisan hit job on Luxon in her podcast over at Stuff. If I was Luxon, I wouldn’t be giving her another interview for a very long time. They also left the mic on after the interview to get Luxon’s private thoughts on how the interview went.
Great ethics.
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March 16, 2024 9:18am
- nathie
  
  Clearly Tova is desperate!
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:48am
- Ruahine
  
  Bigger fool Luxon.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:50am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Would you want him to come out loud and proud like Ardern and say I will never be interviewed by that woman again? What bullshit, we were out raged by Ardern snubbing Hosking, I suggest that call was the start of her down fall
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:48pm
    - Beach Haven expat
      
      I wasn’t outraged. It always struck me what an anachronism it was that the PM every week went on radio and TV for live interview.
      However I also picked that would be a significant step on her eventual departure. It made her look weak and scared to a larger number of people than who actually listened in.
      
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      March 16, 2024 6:49pm
- greybeard
  
  Something in her past has made her into the vindictive, venomous person she is now.
  There is something terribly wrong with her.
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:32am
  - David Garrett
    
    greybeard: Being beaten – or worse – by the nuns who taught her perhaps?
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:11pm
  - G152
    
    Couldnt go vote for Putin???????????
    
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    March 16, 2024 12:48pm
- MCōs
  
  Sounds like PM Luxon may have made the oldest mistake for newbie politicians
  Either that or he wanted Ms O’Brian to know what he really feels without directly confronting her in the manner of Winston Peters
  
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  March 16, 2024 3:16pm
Maggie Pie

The gift that keeps on giving 😛

According to Michael Laws, if Darlene Tana receives the DCM, then next on the Greens list is Benjamin Doyle from Hamilton, a LGBTQI Trans-Activist, who happens to ‘identify’ as a Maori, and wears a Tiki around his neck bigger than Debbies.

Honestly, it doesn’t get any better than this. LOL!!
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March 16, 2024 9:32am
- David Garrett
  
  Maggie: Yes, the “my tiki is bigger than yours” phenomenon builds. Back in the day, “real” Maori wore ones which were quite small, and people used to say “the bigger the bone carving the bigger the wanker” – the large ones mostly being worn by white Maori.
  
  Now it seems even “real Maori” – by which I mean those who are actually noticeably browner than me – are wearing bigger and bigger ones.
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:39am
  - David George
    
    The bigger the tiki the smaller the taukari?
    
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    March 16, 2024 10:08am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      The smaller the lahor
      
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      March 16, 2024 12:50pm
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    Will we get to the stage where the tiki is so large that it wears the man?
    
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    March 16, 2024 6:51pm
- hmmokrightitis
  
  It does – when people use the tools to openly and wonderfully mock the continued stupidity of this mental illness that we will look back on and think WTF were we (they/them) thinking?
  
  https://katv.com/news/nation-world/republican-county-councilman-announces-he-now-identifies-as-a-lesbian-of-color-upsets-lgbt-advocates-indiana-delware-county-ryan-webb-woman
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:42am
  - JackRabbit
    
    It would be interesting to produce a graph of people who identify as something they are not, and how many things they identify as – in this case he would be a three – a woman, a lesbian, and coloured, vs how many shots of mRNA they had.
    
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    March 16, 2024 10:05am
    - Taieri
      
      Everyone identifies as someone. For example all those people who self-identified as “scientists” during the Covid years or all the politicians self-identifying as “kind”…
      
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      March 16, 2024 11:00am
      - JackRabbit
        
        Real scientists don’t have to call themselves ‘scientists’, ‘virologists’, ‘experts’, or anything else.
        
        Among the thinking population, their reputation is not gauged by a lofty title, but the ‘cut of their jib’. Specifically their adherence to the scientific method or critical thinking, and presentation of facts, and chain of logic.
        
        When Shaun Hendy said in March 2020 that 80,000 people could die, he presented no logic. It takes 10 seconds to calculate that for 80,000 to die, The Infection Fatality Rate was over 8%. Meaning approx 1 in 10 people would die from it.
        
        And Ardern undid all that, by poncing around doing sermons on the POT unprotected, and later in mid 2020 mixing with the public hugging and taking selfies.
        
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        March 16, 2024 1:47pm
  - PurplePen
    
    The world is going insane .. well at least hopefully it’s just restricted to the woke left. My thinking is that all this “identify as” business is not actually what these individuals thing it is. Its actually them seeing that they have traits common in some other group in society. But that of itself doesn’t MAKE you one of those in said group. For example I identity as a purple pen as I see I have some of the same traits as all other purple pens, but clearly I’m NOT ACTUALLY a purple pen. They’re all using the “identity” thing in the wrong sense. And it surprises me that no psychologists have picked up on this.
    
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    March 16, 2024 2:50pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      😀 😀 😀
      
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      March 16, 2024 3:16pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Jordan Peterson is a psychologist and is all over this.
      
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      March 16, 2024 4:46pm
- Conservatarian
  
  Doyle ran for the Greens in Hamilton West last year, and was soundly beaten. The picture of him in the 2023 election coverage by the Spinoff at the time https://policy.nz/2023/hamilton-west-electorate/candidates/benjamin-doyle indicates shows to me is he obviously ethnically European and visibly not Maori. This would no doubt infuriate him, so he has to tell all and sundry about which ethnic group he identifies with.
  
  In his spiel on why he stood in 2023, he noted that his dream includes a “society that enacts the promises of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and within which our parliament centres equity and justice in every policy decision and political debate.”
  
  He then tells us about himself, using pidgin English where possible: “I am…a community organiser. I am also proudly takatāpui and whaikaha”. Of course he has his snout in the trough, having taught high school for a bit focusing “on rangatahi achieving equitable educational outcomes” and now “as a university researcher with a focus on education, well-being and anti-racist pedagogy.”
  
  So he is a community organiser (shorthand for leftist activist and / or union thug) and a critical race theorist indoctrinating teaching students. He is not just snout deep in the trough, but is actively fouling it up.
  
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  March 16, 2024 1:13pm
- PurplePen
  
  Thanks .. that’s made my weekend.
  
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  March 16, 2024 2:41pm
Maggie Pie

Caught a bit of fab Rita Panahi on SKY earlier.
Sooo wish we had Presenters like her on our own TV News.

She was saying how things didn’t end well for a few of societies misfits who attended the big Gay Pride Festival in Victoria 🙁

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1768474336695033880
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March 16, 2024 10:08am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Oops! Not very smart those lads. Oh well, never mind. Monkey Pox is next week.
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:29pm
David Garrett

I have pointed out before that American blacks take a totally different approach from Maori to who may legitimately be part of their race/community.

In short – as one Rachel Dolezal found out – no matter how you style your hair, or how many hours you spend on a sunbed, or how you “identify”, if you don’t have a significant amount of black blood, you aren’t one.

Here of course there is no blood requirement for being “Maori”, although the legal definition “a person descended from a New Zealand Maori” technically allows people whiter than me to identify as Maori.

I suspect the Maori shit stirrers are slowly realising that this “test” – that one only has to have 1/64th Maori blood to be one – is rebounding on them, as “Maori” such as Seymour quite clearly have a totally different world view from – say – Hone the Racist. It’s all rather fun to watch as they tie themselves in knots.
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March 16, 2024 10:16am
- Matt Long
  
  Saw a comment from an X activist, Joe Trinder I think, if a White Colonialist Oppressor asks you what about your other cultural heritage? You are 100% completely Maori.
  From tips on how to deal with “racists.”
  
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  March 16, 2024 10:39am
Maggie Pie

SACRE BLEU!

Altho it’s something we always suspected of course…. well me anyway.

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1768617056939729317

(Klik and scroll down to watch the interview with Candace Owens.)
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March 16, 2024 11:23am
Lee C

saw this and liked it: from ‘5 thimes August in twitter:
Didn’t ask for evidence when they told you to social distance. You just did it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they told you to stay home for two weeks. You just did it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they told you to mask up. You just did it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they told local businesses to close down. You just went along with it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they pulled your kid out of school. You just went along with it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they scared you with terms like “super spreader.” You just went along with it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they said you couldn’t visit the nursing home. You just went along with it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they said the funeral would have to be via Zoom call. You just went along with it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when you followed the arrows on the floor at the grocery store. You just did it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they promised the shot was “safe and effective.” You just believed it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they said “Just the one shot.” You just went ahead and got it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they said “We meant two shots to get your life back.” You just went ahead and got it…again.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they said “Our bad, you’ll need a booster every year.” You just got back in line for more of it.
Didn’t ask for evidence when they said “We meant boost a few times a year.” You just nodded your head in agreement because look how far you’ve come. You can’t go back now.

Oh but if someone tells you any of that was horrible and wrong and it’s ruined millions of lives… you’re going to need to see some “evidence” of it. 🥴 👍
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March 16, 2024 12:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ and the World needs Nuremberg 2.0.
  In NZ all those who pushed the safe and effective barrow, and masks, lockdowns etc without a mandate, should be in jail.
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:07pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Well put Lee.
  Perhaps you have listed the parameters for a real Royal Commission instead of the flaccid excuse for one we are getting.
  
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  March 16, 2024 12:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

The comic Part 18.
How the James Freeman version of the treaty came about, and why activists are using it.
The schoolkids are being fed propaganda. They will vote soon. The Coup is happening right in front of us and hardly anyone is waking up!

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-18/
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March 16, 2024 12:21pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How the rogue James Freeman Treaty version came into being, and why the Waitangi Tribunal uses it.
  Feel free to correct me at any time. I make shit up according to some….
  
  https://issuu.com/esisite/docs/how_to_rogue_james_freeman_version_of_the_treaty_c?fr=xKAE9_zU1NQ
  
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  March 16, 2024 3:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Arrest of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab?

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/the-call-for-the-arrest-of-bill-gates-and-klaus-schwab-from-a-conservative-perspective-03-15-2024/?
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March 16, 2024 12:24pm
Master Mariner

Ghana’s MP stating the obvious at the UN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCISNV8TiCM

“Sam George MP of Ghana Africa gives a speech in New York City at the United Nations headquarters. His focus is on Ghana’s human rights and lgbtq rights of the USA and how they differ.”

Cant argue against Logic. But here’s the thing, Why cant our MP’s state the obvious to how 80% of Western Countries think ?

Closer to home, What is the “Maori ” View ?
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March 16, 2024 1:19pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION…..

Is the ‘Member-for-Tijuana’ without sin?

That’s a very good question Maggie. Watch this space.
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March 16, 2024 1:40pm
- Ghost
  
  I have a feeling he could find himself in the unemployment line soon
  
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  March 16, 2024 1:41pm
  - Swifty
    
    I will admit I would feel a deep sense of pleasure should that fellow suffer a political downfall.
    
    The sanctimonious little twerp.
    
    I can give countless examples but his behaviour over Bob Jones was just disgraceful, and showed us all exactly what sort of person he is. He maligned Jones absolutely without basis, then when proven wrong he not only didn’t apologise for his outrageous slur, he doubled down and made even worse baseless slurs.
    
    I can stomach Greenies when they are just naive or simple – but when they
    present as all righteous and holier then thou but are actually provably nasty and vicious and attack people personally then I will take great pleasure in their downfall. He’s right at the top of the list.
    
    Him and Davidson.
    
    Nasty. Just plain nasty. They’ve proven themselves both filthy racists, spreading grievance and division wherever they go. They feed off it.
    
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    March 16, 2024 2:43pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Did Jones ask ‘Member-for-Tijuana’ for a visit behind the woodshed?
      
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      March 16, 2024 3:57pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Yep, Heres me stuck overseas during a Coup and the shear impossibility of getting home to access MIQ spot, Meantime him and his Boy friend can easily Waltz in.
      The absolute disdain I hold knows no bounds about him.
      
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      March 16, 2024 5:29pm
      - Keith White
        
        Damn right.
        
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        March 16, 2024 8:24pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I had forgotten the Bob Jones story…..
      
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/12/sir_bob_responds_to_ricardo_with_an_upper_cut.html
      
      Thank goodness for Kiwiblog’s wonderful archive service.
      
      I’m sure Mr March will be desperate to investigate whether any Green members are ripping off immigrants .
      
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      March 16, 2024 5:38pm
      - Swifty
        
        Thanks Maggy.
        
        Yes, what a turd. He revealed his true character for all to see in that episode.
        
        It was behaviour beneath contempt.
        
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        March 16, 2024 7:04pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    What do you know that we don’t??
    
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    March 16, 2024 3:57pm
- kevn
  
  Maggie… We eagerly await ‘The Viaduct’ input.
  
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  March 16, 2024 2:31pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Is he being used as a ‘mule?’
  
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  March 16, 2024 3:05pm
Swifty

Under Hipkins and Swarbrick and Davidson these innocent men would already be in jail.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/woman-sentenced-after-falsely-accusing-men-of-raping-her-at-home-and-in-a-nelson-park/G7LZDCLCRBFPHHDNR53WYVDRTQ/

That’s the type of people they are.
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March 16, 2024 2:50pm
- MCōs
  
  Unlike other jurisdictions politicians are not permitted to influence police investigations in NZ although some have been known to try their luck
  Apart from that this all happened when C Hipkins was PM
  Neither the then Minister for Women, Jan Tinetti nor the current Minister, Nicola Grigg have complained she’s had a rough deal.
  
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  March 16, 2024 5:28pm
  - Swifty
    
    I was referring to Labour’s recent and concerted push to ‘believe all women’ in claims of sexual abuse and to severely restrict the defence’s ability to cross-examine accusers in court.
    
    Luckily they were thrown out of office before they could change our laws accordingly.
    
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    March 16, 2024 7:01pm
    - MCōs
      
      In the case you highlighted her accusations didn’t get passed first base let alone into court because the police did their job.
      Why don’t you find a case that illustrates your point, because from what I understand there’s plenty where the woman has been hard done by; not only by the court system, but by the police in the first instance to the extent that the vast majority of sexual violence cases don’t get reported
      
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      March 16, 2024 7:36pm
      - Swifty
        
        Please don’t try to spoil my fun MCos.
        
        Ripping the snot out of Labour and the Greens is one of my favourite pastimes and gives me great personal pleasure.
        
        You wouldn’t take away my toys would you?
        
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        March 16, 2024 8:27pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

What happened that day? (Jan 6th 21)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CdD8QDNwV8
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March 16, 2024 3:01pm
- MCōs
  
  Biden was confirmed as El Presidente of the Banana Republic of the USA
  https://x.com/eha_news/status/1347594764590448644?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
  
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  March 16, 2024 5:47pm
Maggie Pie

Questioned as to when Wellingtonians might expect to see an improvement to their water supply infrastructure, the Mayor responded that Council currently had more pressing priorites…… like passing a by-law enabling Mosques to broadcast their ‘Call-to-Prayer’
5 times a day over loudspeakers.

https://twitter.com/nickpgjames/status/1768766425437814981
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March 16, 2024 3:29pm
- Ghost
  
  Good, she should work on other issues right up until a commissioner is put in to do her job
  
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  March 16, 2024 3:32pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Not the full squid.
  
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  March 16, 2024 4:03pm
- peterwn
  
  Originally the Mullah would climb the steps of the Minaret and yell out the call to prayer. Then he would use a microphone and loudspeaker. Then he relocated the microphone to the foot of the Minaret to save climbing the steps. finally a recording of the call and a timer fully automated the process.
  
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  March 16, 2024 7:26pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Let them do it, but only old school
    
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    March 16, 2024 8:37pm
Prince

Halfway through second half.
Womens’ Rugby
Blues 45, ‘Canes nil.
Stick to politics ladies.
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March 16, 2024 3:38pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Them ain’t no ladies – not the chubba-lubba with the bad attitude who thinks she’s a Justice Warrior anyways. Just sayin’
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:14pm
Ghost

I wonder why, perhaps a backlash against the men or sponsors. Wouldn’t be anything to do with their team, no one goes to watch them looking at the photos

After weeks of controversy and scrutiny, the Hurricanes Poua have not performed a haka before their latest Super Rugby Aupiki clash against the Blues in Auckland on Saturday afternoon.

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March 16, 2024 5:45pm
- MCōs
  
  Small rugby crowds are pretty much par for the course these days for the men’s and women’s games except the women’s World Cup that packed out Eden Park
  A couple of controversial haka certainly put some interest into the local competition and I doubt if the sisters care less about the naysayers
  Out my way is Warriors country with jerseys everywhere, but never any Blues gear
  
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  March 16, 2024 7:00pm
Ghost

Hmmm, this story seems a bit odd.

A man who heckled Finance Minister Nicola Willis at a press conference says he was verbally abused by a group of men before one of them threatened to bash him.

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March 16, 2024 5:49pm
- kevn
  
  Ghost… Sounds as though it did deter the heckler anyway.
  
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  March 16, 2024 5:54pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Yeah, I’m going to take Things That Never Happened for $400
  
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  March 16, 2024 9:16pm
  - Ghost
    
    I wonder why there is no
    
    1) security footage from the hotel
    2) footage from the media, I’d expect they left around the same time
    
    Who was filming him at the presser, doesn’t look like the quality is good enough to be the media, so if a friend, no footage outside?
    
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    March 16, 2024 9:22pm

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