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TripeWryter

I have some news for the Health New Zealand worker who complained anonymously on Reddit about their manager banning the use of te reo in e-mails to patients.
I don’t like ‘kia ora’ or ‘nga mihi’, either, in e-mails from government and council officers.
It’s not my culture.
I feel as if I’m being treated tokenistically.
And also it’s the result of an official policy. They have to do it. It’s not sincere.
The other day I was in a council office. A non-Maori staffer approached me calling out: ‘Kia ora!’
I answered with ‘good afternoon’.
She replied with ‘good afternoon’, too.
It might surprise the health worker and people above the manager – like the chief people officer (is that what personnel managers used to be called?) – that a lot of people don’t like it but have never felt they could resist.
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March 14, 2024 8:03am
- septic skeptic
  
  It’s a very significant number that don’t like it. We got this at the boarding gate for the Air NZ flight from Hong Kong. Once someone raised the subject there was widespread complaints about Manglish.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:47am
- greybeard
  
  I sent Mike Hosking this email this morning:
  
  Subject: It is working !
  
  ” It is quite noticeable that since the change of government that very few people ever start their conversations with you with a maori greeting ( “morena” or “kia ora” ).
  Except for that Rod Carr yesterday, but that does not surprise me.
  Actually, best not to read this email out or someone will start the whole nonsense up again. “
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:50am
David Garrett

Delighted to be back in the First World this morning!

(Nearly got my bag searched by saying “If I did, it would be on the form” when the Customs man said, “So, anything to declare?”)
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March 14, 2024 8:04am
- 7kiwi11
  
  So where are you? It can’t be NZ as you mentioned First World and we’re at best 2 1/2.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:16am
- cmm
  
  Every day the “First” bit seems a little more tarnished.
  
  About two weeks ago someone who had moved overseas bitterly complained about how everything in NZ has taken a slide in the last few years – especially delivery services.
  
  Today I received a parcel from UK:
  * 3 days from pick up in UK to being cleared through customs in Auckland.
  * 6 further days to make its way from Auckland to Christchurch.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:48am
  - RoboRob
    
    My person pet peave. Things take 2 or three days to be dispatched in their hom country and travel to NZ. Then you wait at least a week for customs to process and a courier to ship it to you. Started under covid and never returned to normal service.
    
    Prior to covid you could regularly buy something in Ak and have it arrive in CHCH the next day. Now if that happens it is celebration time. Normal delivery is more like 3 days.
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:52am
    - Sacha
      
      I have found that it’s quicker to buy just about anything from the SI – it gets delivered to me in the Tararua District, rural delivery, in a couple of days.
      And I bought a watch on Amazon and it was delivered from the Philippines ‘store’ in 4 days!
      
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      March 14, 2024 6:56pm
  - David Garrett
    
    cmm: I have had a letter take a week from Kaukapakapa to Auckland City! I kid you not Sir.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:06am
    - pdm
      
      DG – not entirely new for NZ Post.
      
      In the late 90’s it took 5 days for an urgently needed document to get from Hastings to Waipawa – about 45k’s away.
      
      In those days (but not now) I could have walked there and back quicker.
      
      Going back to the mid 80,s a letter posted in Hastings by 10am could be in my Waipawa Post Box at about 3pm the same day. Local people doing the job at both ends.
      
      Now a letter posted in Hastings goes to Palmerston North to be sorted and then back to Waipawa – about a 150/160k round trip.
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:19am
      - bjools
        
        NZ Posts downward slide seemed to start,when John Key made one of his few mistakes.
        Appointing Michael Cullen head of NZ Post?
        
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        March 14, 2024 10:15am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      David, my mother-in-law (in London) is aging and has asked my wife to look after her bank affairs. To get access to online banking, Natwest insist on sending an access code by mail (they will not email it or give it over the phone). The code is only valid for 45 days. We are now waiting on our third iteration of the code as the previous two have not made it from the UK to NZ in time.
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:39am
      - lastmanstanding
        
        Not surprised. The Poms have always been behind NZ in IT and systems in general. I worked in the UK in the mid 1970s and couldnt believe how out of date they were.
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:07am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Tell ‘em to try carrier pigeon
        
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        March 14, 2024 7:21pm
  - RoboRob
    
    Sorry aboutt he the spelling / grammer errors. For some reason I didn’t get the edit option.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:07am
    - imalwaysright
      
      You shouldn’t knead it…
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:15am
      - Grumpy Silver Top
        
        :))
        
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        March 14, 2024 2:12pm
  - MCōs
    
    OMG
    Oh the humanity!
    What have we become?
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:14am
    - plc
      
      Not a First World country?
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:19am
      - imalwaysright
        
        NZ has been colonised by marxists.
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:40am
    - Arthur Fleck
      
      Exhibit A of why we are slipping as a country.
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:36am
      - MCōs
        
        Someone complains about a package taking a few days to get here and suddenly we’re a third world country?
        Third world country the package turns up, but you have to slip the courier a few bob or he won’t give it to you.
        
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        March 14, 2024 10:27am
  - Ghost
    
    Every few months I buy some supplements from the USA, I am always left stumped at watching the tracking in the USA, it is a friggin nightmare. Some times it can take two weeks to leave. Some USPS depots it enters, leaves, re-enters, leaves again.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:45am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I ordered a clutch for a car aircon pump. From Brisbane to Auckland was overnight, then 5 days from the airport to North Shore. Useless couriers.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:48am
  - Ra Henare
    
    CMM
    You are in the really lucky zone. Buy a lotto ticket! 🙂
    
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    March 14, 2024 2:13pm
- Biscuit
  
  But, David, how did you answer the form question:
  
  ARE YOU A TERRORIST?
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:11am
- gravedodger
  
  Good on You David, easy to see how Germany a sophisticated free people became ardent followers of herr Schicklgruber aye.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:52am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  DG – Welcome back. I am looking forward to your super market surveys to see how bad Luxon is doing.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:02am
- Geri Sjovik
  
  Talking about that form, did you know it can be done online?
  
  Gets over the problem of never remembering that I need to take a pen onto the plane.
  
  Google ‘new zealand arrival form’ and follow the links from there.
  
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  March 14, 2024 12:36pm
goodwitheu

This is weird. Judge Maria Pecotic has worked as a close colleague of Ghahraman’s:

“The lawyers taking the case, Maria Pecotic and Golriz Ghahraman, argued that the only reason the police initially paid any attention to the man and his …”

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2020/12/unwarranted-police-searches-racial-bias-justice/
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March 14, 2024 8:06am
Simon

Haiti is now pre-treaty NZ. But unlike Haiti the Maori tribal leaders wisely wanted to become sovereign to the British crown to end the BBQs.

The Haitians today will never become wards of another foreign entity even if it meant vastly improved living standards. The Hillary Clintons of this world and race Marxists would lose too much.
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March 14, 2024 8:09am
- Arthur Fleck
  
  But.. but.. but.. Haiti threw off their colonial shackles, purged the land of white people and forged a new destiny as the Caribbean Wakanda.
  
  Or something.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:40am
  - John Loveridge
    
    They sure did. Graham Greene described it very well in The Comedians. Papa Doc told him not to come back.
    
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    March 14, 2024 7:16pm
Swifty

Labour attempting to lie their way to electoral victory:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labour-claimed-there-were-346-landlords-who-owned-200-properties-but-official-data-can-prove-only-one/5TC3HIYIBFGF5CURUBLE5FPYSA/

Nothing will change until we start jailing politicians who lie to us.

If we were creating New Zealand today that’d be an offence I’d insist on us having on the statute books above many, many others.

You lie to us on your quest to attain power and control over us? Well then say goodbye to your families and your income for many years. Simple.

Seize their assets too.
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March 14, 2024 8:11am
- Simon
  
  Its lying but from Labo pov its narrative for their brain damaged base. The idea that the wealthy pay little tax or any tax cut is somehow exploitative. Narrative narrative narrative.
  
  Just look at the brain damaged left in KB, thats the market.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Perhaps Labour has to find some use for its Disinformation group…
  
  https://www.thedisinfoproject.org/
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:38am
- artemisia
  
  Not the first time the Opposition and the media have conflated rental owner with landlord. Definition is in the law, not hard to find, and it has been pointed out several times in the past. Including by me. No excuse for the egg on the face. These days I just shrug and grab the popcorn.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:06pm
  - Swifty
    
    Well, to be fair I’ve made the assumption that they openly lied here – primarily on the basis that nobody could be that stupid, that astoundingly naive, to think that when they saw “Ray White Realty” on 500 bond lodgements they thought “Hell, that Ray White guy must be a rich prick, let’s go after him”.
    
    Did they think that ‘Barfoot and Thompson’ are a rich retired couple living in Ashburton and who own 2,000 houses?
    
    I mean, nobody could be thaaaaat stupid could they?
    
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    March 14, 2024 1:25pm
Maggie Pie

A CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

Ma was just telling me that the late-night host on ZB (Tim) was saying that the dudge who heard Golly’s case yesterday, Maria Pecotic, was one of her besties from way back.

Apparently they had worked together previously on a ‘Bill-of-Rights’ case in the Court of Appeal.

Surely she should of recused herself on that basis?
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March 14, 2024 8:12am
- pdm
  
  MP if that is correct it would seem there is little chance of her being convicted let alone getting a new bracelet – on her lower leg (ankle).
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:18am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well something smells. First thing my partner said was maybe that’s why the date was brought forward for the hearing?
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:22am
    - David Garrett
      
      Maggie: Where was this reported? I was on a plane for three hours yesterday, but this morning I see nothing on Stuff or the Horrid about poor little Golly and her “previously unrecognised trauma”
      
      A link please, if you would be so kind.
      
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      March 14, 2024 8:27am
      - pdm
        
        DG this will never make the front pages or lead the 6pm news on the TV Channels.
        
        Protect Golriz at all costs is the media mantra.
        
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        March 14, 2024 8:33am
      - emmess
        
        https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/03/14/oh-my-what-a-cosy-coincidence/
        
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        March 14, 2024 8:33am
      - Dr John
        
        Actually DG, GG made the front page news in this mornings Herald, and was the lead item in Newshub 6 pm news last night. A bit of a change from the usual Newshub lead where Jenna Lynch is almost shivering with excitement as she ‘reveals’ yet another evil act by our PM [who Lynch always refers to as ‘Luxon’ rather than ‘the Prime Minister’ or ‘Mr Luxon’]. But don’t hold your breath, tonight may well revert to form with yet another pathetic tirade against our legally elected government.
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:19am
      - David Garrett
        
        emmess: Thanks for that…there is certainly something extremely smelly about this…but surely Bfd is not the only media outlet to report this?
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:20am
      - backster
        
        It would be the girls from the Tennis Club and they are always right.
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:50am
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        Media continuing to paint Golriz in the ‘rich & famous celebrities who shoplift’ category (e.g., Winona Ryder) with their opinion pieces
        
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        March 14, 2024 10:26am
      - emmess
        
        @DG
        Not trusting the mainstream media, should be more than something that we just tell the pollsters.
        
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        March 14, 2024 1:00pm
    - rouppe
      
      Hearing dates delayed until a sympathetic judge found?
      
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      March 14, 2024 8:29am
  - Sideoiler
    
    There was never a chance the Persian pilferer was going to be convicted.
    The poor wee dear won’t be able to practice law if convicted, look for her to have her trotters back in the tax payer’s trough in short order.
    The up side is I doubt anyone in the private sector will employ her.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:21am
    - Paul Marsden
      
      GG was a lawmaker and as such, should arguably be treated more harshly than an ‘ordinary citizen’. Much in the same way that a member of the Police force would be, if they committed a criminal act.
      
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      March 14, 2024 10:17am
      - crikey
        
        Paul M: “GG was a lawmaker.”
        
        No she wasn’t. Parliament is the lawmaker.
        
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        March 14, 2024 12:54pm
      - AitchW
        
        She was the Justice spokesman for the Green Party for God’s sake. Surely that’s an aggravating factor at sentencing? The whole thing is a sordid, tawdry affair.
        
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        March 14, 2024 5:55pm
    - gravedodger
      
      As if that will be a problem, Side?
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:15am
    - david
      
      Bound to be a vacancy at Otago U Law faculty coming soon. Watch this space.
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:29am
    - Paulus
      
      Well she is convicted surely by her own admission of Guilty to the charges.
      But she is a poor refugee women, and the Law Society will ensure that she can practice again because of it.
      
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      March 14, 2024 1:31pm
  - MCōs
    
    I would suggest she’ll be convicted and receive a fine and/or community service if her mental health is downplayed
    The maximum penalty is seven years prison, which is not on the radar and I don’t know why the media keeps bringing it up.
    https://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-34-common-crimes/shoplifting/facing-criminal-charges-for-shoplifting/
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:31am
    - imalwaysright
      
      “…if her mental health is downplayed”
      
      Shouldn’t that be mental illness? Why would health be downplayed ?
      
      These types always cite “mental health”
      
      The stigma of mental illness is a step too far. Its just an excuse after all…
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:12am
      - JackRabbit
        
        Crime is a mental illness.
        
        GG using mental illness as an excuse for criminal offending, is like a drunk driver who did a ‘hit and run’, blaming his drinking on the stress of driving.
        
        Or a child beater blaming his child beating on the stress of raising children.
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:47am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      Exactly, ignore the maximum sentence…..never going to happen.
      I’m more interested in what is the minimum sentence!
      
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      March 14, 2024 12:30pm
    - miltonF
      
      I’ve never understood the mental health card. Surely, if someone is a self confessed kleptomaniac or psychopath, this should be reason to keep them in prison for even longer.
      
      The primary purpose of incarceration is to protect society. Not punishment.
      
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      March 14, 2024 1:25pm
- David Garrett
  
  Should HAVE dear…not “should OF…”
  
  And you are quite right: if what you say is correct, this Judge should have been nowhere near Golly’s case.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:28am
  - Opie
    
    DG – any chance of leaning on a contact or two to find out if there is any truth to this?
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:32am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I only put ‘OF’ becos I saw you were already here. LOL!!
    
    Sorry DG – couldn’t resist 😀 😀 😀
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:42am
    - David Garrett
      
      Maggie: if that’s true, then I can only say “You got me!”
      
      Sleeping last night with a duvet partly on..and no need for a fan…Luxury!
      
      BTW, I haven’t seen that tedious bore Milky/Mikey/Mikenmild/Mikenmildagain here lately….Has he been given a holiday?
      
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      March 14, 2024 8:49am
      - Michael Johnston
        
        Morning David,
        Given your insistence on grammatical exactitude (which I very much appreciate, by the way), I have to ask, did you mean ‘tedious boor’? ‘Tedious bore’ would be a tautology.
        
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        March 14, 2024 8:59am
      - Che Guava
        
        Michael
        Indeed. While being a tedious bore may be tautological for most people, given David’s record of managing to make 95% of his comments about himself, and the irony of a self-appointed grammar policeman making frequent mistakes himself, I think we should allow him the privilege.
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:21am
      - David Garrett
        
        Michael: You got me too! Must be jet lag from my long three hour flight…!
        
        Actually I originally wrote “odious bore”, then thought “odious” was a bit strong and replaced it with tedious..should OF realised that I thereby created a tautology.
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:33am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        DG, I think Mike is on holiday.
        Not sure how it works but the holiday used to double down. Be naughty and you got a week, then two weeks, then 4, then 8, and so on.
        On the comments policy the naughty ones were listed, so you could find out when they are due back.
        Either that or he finally realised that being senior downticker and senior troll was a waste of time, and he grew up.
        
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        March 14, 2024 10:10am
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    Like would’ve, and might’ve, the contractions correctly using our friend the apostrophe have morphed into a whole new language form. My other pet peeve is “gather together, meet together, et al, does no-one know what meet and gather actually mean?
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:50am
    - Flossie
      
      How about “return back”?
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:24am
      - gravedodger
        
        My current “fave” “circle back”.
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:18am
      - Biscuit
        
        Flossie, my fave is the Cricket commentator talking about a ball being played ‘through a vacant gap’.
        
        Erm, if the gap wasn’t vacant, it wouldn’t BE a gap…
        
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        March 14, 2024 2:11pm
    - Dave
      
      I suppose one could claim that with Zoom it is now possible to meet apart, but doubt that this is the reason for ‘meet together’.
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:30am
    - Scooter
      
      Not too mention a person who doesn’t know when too use to or too in their posts.
      
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      March 14, 2024 10:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Then there is “for free.”
      It is just “free.”
      
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      March 14, 2024 10:11am
    - Local Miller
      
      And the “reason why”, and “hence why”!
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:10am
    - SoloView
      
      @ Grumpy
      My pet peeve is “continue on”.
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:22am
- Hong Jianhong
  
  They would need to have an ongoing personal relationship for the judge to recuse herself. That they worked on a case together years ago is neither here nor there.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:30am
  - David Garrett
    
    Hong: Utter bollocks. That just might be the case if Golly G was just some common or garden shoplifter… but she is not.
    
    One of the judges who might have been in a position to pass sentence on me recused himself because he and I had exchanged heated words – well, as heated as you can in court without being held in contempt – about three years earlier.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:36am
    - JohnRidd
      
      Yes, but when the left do it, it’s OK.
      
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      March 14, 2024 4:39pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Ohhhh OK…… Its just coincidence that a former colleague is now judging the case.
    
    As my old Audit Professor used to say…. NZ is a small place, but perception of conflict of interest is to be avoid at all costs
    
    We all know that Golriz will get discharge without conviction so she can go and practice lawyer now her political career is stuffed
    
    And we also know that many other people with a lower profile and no connections to the established Judiciary/Political parties/Senior Public Servants/International Sports would get convicted
    
    The system increasingly not only looks corrupt to the careful observer but openly flaunts its corruption.
    
    The Judge not recusing herself is a blatant breach of ethical standards – doesnt matter if they havent seen each other for years.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:37am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Hard to fault this analysis.
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:20am
- Opie
  
  Looks like she has a bit of experience defending scumbags too…
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It is hardly ever mentioned who she was defending.
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:14am
- cmm
  
  Maggy, the NZ legal community – for want of a better phrase – is small. Pretty much everyone will know or have worked with just about everyone else at some time.
  
  Being a strong wimminz of colour she’s going to get a soft ride no matter what dudge she faces.
  
  I’d like to know how many offenses she really comitted. When she “took responsibility” was it only for the offending she was nabbed on?
  
  Various statistics suggest that only somewhere around 10% of shoplifting gets caught. So unless GG is the world’s worst shoplifter ever then she has committed many more offenses – well into the double digits.
  
  But hey, who knows. Maybe she’s a crap pollie and a crap crim.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:34am
  - David Garrett
    
    cmm: The NZ legal community is not that small. And knowing who someone is – usually second hand – is quite different from having worked together on a file, no matter how long ago.
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:40am
    - cmm
      
      DG: Thanks for the correction. I see there are approx 16000 lawyers and 170 judges in NZ.
      Yes, you’d think they would be able to find someone a bit less cozy.
      
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      March 14, 2024 8:43am
      - grumpy
        
        Maybe “they” had to try very hard to find this one..,,
        
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        March 14, 2024 8:47am
      - septic skeptic
        
        A conviction preventing her from being a lawyer will in effect kill off two career paths. Arguably excessive. But it is relatively high value offending, 4 times (at least, in reality almost certainly more). And from someone who should respect the law in BOTH professions. So it’s a delicate balance as to whether she gets discharge without conviction. Important to avoid any perceived conflict of interest then…
        
        Or maybe not. Maybe it’s just that the informal club of elites are duty bound to protect each other and normal justice is just for normal citizens.
        
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        March 14, 2024 12:42pm
      - Bobba Fret
        
        Looks like they may have worked hard to find this ‘friendly’ judge as they even accommodated her by bringing forward the appearance date.
        
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        March 14, 2024 12:46pm
    - Hong Jianhong
      
      If they worked together serveral years ago, but subsequently had no contact, would that require the judge to recuse herself?
      
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      March 14, 2024 8:47am
      - pdm
        
        Hong – initial comment suggests they are `besties’.
        
        At the moment this is not confirmed…….but………..
        where there is smoke there is usually fire!!!
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:25am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      There should be a law saying that judges must declare how well they know someone in a criminal or civil. In my civil case, the judge cost me a lot. I won in the end but by then the crooked lawyer was bankrupt.
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:07am
    - Biscuit
      
      Mmm, and you’d think that this person who may or may not have been impartial would’ve thought to him/herself ‘Hmmm, I know I’m gonna be impartial but the public will think this doesn’t pass the ‘sniff test’ so I will recuse myself, let it be known that I am recusing myself and everyone will think ‘What an impartial person, I must send him/her an Easter Egg or two from the dozen I am buying that nice Biscuit!’
      
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      March 14, 2024 2:17pm
  - Hong Jianhong
    
    She will most likely receive community service. To be fair, anyone with no prior criminal record would get the same deal. Her real penalty will be the impact a conviction will have on her ability to practice as a lawyer.
    
    A less likely outcome is a discharge without conviction. If you can get that for beating up an elderly woman you can probably get it for shop lifting.
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:45am
    - pdm
      
      Hong – the big question is this.
      
      Will this Judge even hand down a conviction?
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:26am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Sorry Hong.
      
      A lawyer in front of a court and convicted should lose the ability to practice law when things like theft, dishonesty, assault are involved (trivial stuff like contested speeding tickets should not impinge)
      
      Do we have ethical standards for lawyers or not?
      
      You are suggesting a free pass for a person who put themselves forward, constantly, as better than others on all sorts of issues (Race relations, International Relations, Environment matters, Social Justice matters etc etc) and not only that SET law for others to follow as an MP.
      
      She has fallen well short of standards required while in a very important role. This is not a historical conviction where she has turned her life around. Its willfully and frequently breaking the law while serving in parliament
      
      She should be convicted and that should lead to losing the right to be a lawyer…
      
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      March 14, 2024 9:46am
      - Hong Jianhong
        
        You misread my comment. I am not at all suggesting a free pass. I was simply saying that a discharge without conviction would not surprise me.
        
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        March 14, 2024 9:59am
      - gravedodger
        
        Not mentioning a CV and personal history with more holes than a kitchen sieve?
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:22am
    - NothingLeft
      
      I think a few hundred hours cleaning public shitters would be a good place to start for the entitled tart.
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:50am
      - Biscuit
        
        NothingLeft, and she could carry on by being made o clean a more private shitter or two. Mine is/are available…
        
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        March 14, 2024 2:20pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Biscuit
        Make sure your red undies are under lock & key.
        
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        March 14, 2024 7:30pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Yep, she’ll get back to practising law. They let Mr Asia’s squeeze back in. How could you respect an outfit that welcomes a hard core criminal’s mole back into the fold.
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:54am
      - Paulus
        
        Well she is convicted surely by her own admission of Guilty to the charges.
        But she is a poor refugee women, and the Law Society will ensure that she can practice again because of it.
        
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        March 14, 2024 1:46pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, Paul Goldsmith is keen on reducing waiting time in Court cases. Take what you can from that in relation to this case but I doubt he took ‘cosiness’ into the equation. Reclusion:
  
  2. Guiding Principle
  
  2.1 The guiding principle is that a Judge is disqualified from sitting if in the circumstances there is a real possibility that in the eyes of a fair-minded and fully informed observer the Judge might not be impartial in reaching a decision in the case.
  
  2.2 The test is a two-step one requiring consideration of:
  
  a) What are the circumstances relevant to the possible need for recusal because of apparent bias?
  b) Whether those circumstances lead to a reasonable apprehension the Judge may not be impartial.
  
  2.3 The test requires ascertainment of, first what it is that might possibly lead to a reasonable apprehension that the Judge might decide the case other than on its merits and, secondly, whether there is a logical and sufficient connection between those circumstances and that apprehension.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:38am
  - septic skeptic
    
    The problem with 2.1 is that the fair minded public will NOT be fully informed. So the perceived conflict will stink somewhat when the likely discharge without conviction happens. it’s a bad look and it appears like there could be a case of one law for the plebs and another for the elites – if she gets a discharge,
    If it walks like a duck and quack like a duck…
    
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    March 14, 2024 12:50pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  It won’t matter who the judge is. The only thing that will change is the wetness of the bus ticket they will throw at her.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:42am
- Arthur Fleck
  
  The fix is in.
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:50am
  - riffer
    
    No, a fix is when a prominent political figure continues to have name suppression for molesting children due to the impact it would have on the political party they “resigned” from.
    
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    March 14, 2024 2:45pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Have they been convicted riffer? or charged. If just charged then you should be careful with your wording
      
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      March 14, 2024 5:04pm
      - Ghost
        
        He’s said nothing different than what’s been reported
        
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        March 14, 2024 5:22pm
- RoboRob
  
  TV3 report that she has appeared and admitted guilt. The judge will announce sentence in June….
  
  WTF.
  Ignoring this particular case. Why should a simple shoplifting case need a 3 mth gap between case and announcement of penalty?
  
  It is ridiculous and inhumane to all sides. I am sure the Judge knows the sentence already and yes it must be written up but 3mths!
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:04am
  - pdm
    
    ` Why should a simple shoplifting case need a 3 mth gap between case and announcement of penalty?’
    
    Marama and Chloe have to do one of those `supportive report thingy’s’. They are not the sharpest knives in the drawer so they will take a while to get them done.
    
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    March 14, 2024 9:30am
    - gravedodger
      
      You are not suggesting Chloe and/or Marama will write anything. Harry Tam’s phone will be on speed dial surely, pdm.
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:25am
      - riffer
        
        Speculation bordering on defamation.
        
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        March 14, 2024 2:46pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      Not in the days of ChatGPT.
      
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      March 14, 2024 12:52pm
    - Ghost
      
      Lauren Dickason’s Sentencing has been delayed and finally got a date today for her sentence in June.
      
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      March 14, 2024 3:09pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Golriz for finance minister.
  The value of the clothes she nicked has dropped from over $15,000 to about $8,500.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:11am
  - I remember when
    
    Has she been charged at the retailers purchase price, not their sale price?
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:43am
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  Also, the value of the goods she flogged from Scotties has been re-assessed (from $7,223 to $5,773).
  Co-incidentally, this reduces the total value of the goods stolen to under $10k.
  Perhaps it was a rounding error.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:06am
G152

There are many New Zealanders who would really love to get the same pay as a cop.
For their spokesperson to claim they have to live on food parcels is beyond the realms of fantasy.
And a nurse at 6 years employment is a highly trained person saving lives and tending to all manner of ailments. Not in the same world
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March 14, 2024 8:21am
- imalwaysright
  
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  There certainly are many New Zealanders who would love to get the same pay as a cop, but there are bugger all who would get off their arse and put their safety and life on the line every day.
  
  If you think that it is “beyond the realms of fantasy” for a cop to need help to feed his family then you seem to be beyond the realm of reality.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:59am
- rockape
  
  Not only that but nurses are not paid during their three years of training. They also have a degree. Plus in the recent pay equity negotiations their pay was compared to police and that gave them a rise.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:14am
- I remember when
  
  Policemen start on around $1300 a week.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:45am
  - artemisia
    
    It would be interesting to know how much of police time is paperwork rather than on the streets.
    
    Not for a moment saying paperwork is not important – processes in the legal sector have to be carefully followed of course.
    
    But paperwork is not the same as having to don the stab vest.
    
    We do now have a Minister of Completely Unnecessary Regulations, though. Mr Seymour, come on down.
    
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    March 14, 2024 12:10pm
- gravedodger
  
  The hours, shifts, call backs, facing real life and death, c’mon bro the bloody nurse knows her schedule for weeks head, a cop cannot guarantee what tomorrow will bring if a feral goes nuts.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:30am
  - G152
    
    Ever been in A+E on a weekend night when the drunks and tough guys come in????
    And the nurses have to deal with the wankers.
    Where are the police?????
    
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    March 14, 2024 3:59pm
    - Ghost
      
      Police are doing their job. Their job isn’t to provide security for hospitals, that is the job of security guards. And yes I have been there when the security guard has called Police and they’ve turned up fast.
      
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      March 14, 2024 4:41pm
      - MCōs
        
        The security guards I saw at Middlemore A & E were huge, which was just as well because there were some noisy people around. Me for example as I lay in agony for three days waiting for an operation! Every time someone walked passed the airwaves sent a shock through my fractured leg
        
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        March 14, 2024 10:28pm
jacthecat

Surely Ms Ghahraman must have been extremely unlucky to have been caught on the only four times she shoplifted?
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March 14, 2024 8:22am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like she ran out of excuses:
  
  But a store employee approached Ghahraman in the car park and asked to check inside her bag.
  
  Ghahraman refused to show the employee the contents of her bag.
  
  “She returned briefly inside the store with the employee where she offered an explanation, pointing to a dress hung inside a coat as the reason for misunderstanding. The employee accepted this explanation and allowed her to leave.”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350211688/extent-golriz-ghahramans-shoplifting-revealed
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    At least we are not hearing “the security cameras were not working at the time.”
    It is too late for that now.
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:24am
- igm
  
  What about her “co-offender” does she not get charged also?
  Four times surely is rubbish, there must be further investigation into her level of offending, or do her political affiliations preclude her from the same treatment as criminals. Maybe Islam is a defence these days.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:08am
Hong Jianhong

Some doctor on ZB telling us that the new health targets are “too little too late”. Well thanks a bunch. 😳

I was thinking last night David Clark must go down as one of the most useless Ministers of the last century.
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March 14, 2024 8:34am
- kowtow
  
  At least he kept himself fit ,out on a mountain bike …….
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:21am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  And where was said Doctor 6 years ago when Labour dropped targets – vanishing up his/her/its own arse I suspect.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:26am
- NothingLeft
  
  Cancelled the reporting of health KPI’s as soon as Labour got in – which was the surest path to worse performance you could think of.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:54am
- Paulus
  
  The Very Reverend David Clark has now been employed by Grant Robertson at Otago University.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:50pm
- septic skeptic
  
  One of. HEAPS of competition for that title in the Labour cabinet
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:58pm
igm

When is this going to be made public by MSM?
https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/03/14/oh-my-what-a-cosy-coincidence/
This is a travesty of justice and the judge should be under the hammer as well as the thief.
Imagine if this was a ex-MP from the right!
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March 14, 2024 8:36am
rouppe

Health NZ staffer claims they were told to stop using ‘kia ora’ and ‘ngā mihi’ in emails to patients

My view on this is that if you want to make a thing about being culturally sensitive or culturally appropriate, then as a public servant you should be sure to communicate in a culturally appropriate way with your audience.

For the two non Maori patients, that means not in Te Reo. For Maori patients that might mean completely in Te Reo. But the onus is on you, as the standard bearer of cultural matters, to make the effort, not everybody else
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March 14, 2024 8:36am
- Yvette
  
  Around 186,000 New Zealanders self-report some knowledge of the Maori language.
  As there are about 800,000 Maori that probably means there is a 1:4 chance a Maorificated email would reach someone who is not particularly fluent in te reo.
  
  And when I attempted to learn some of the basics of te reo, a couple of decades ago, it failed because the teacher did not know enough about English grammar to understand questions the evening class asked of him, but when we had learned to recite the necessities: what our name was, our mountain, river and the biggest expanse of water near us, the teacher did make the comment we should never “try out” our newly informed knowledge on any Maori, especially elderly Maori, for fear that they were not fluent and would likely be enshrouded in embarrassing shame of not knowing their own indigenous language.
  I guess anyone in this category must still feel some remorse when an email starting “kia ora” or ending “nga mihi” confronts them – same watching television where the pronunciation of Maori has now become such a glib, and fast in presentation – get it over them, and out of the way for us – that it serves no learning opportunity, any useful normalisation of the language, and still only a mildly grating fucking nuisance – as well as not being inclusive for Muslims, binary Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex, and Asexual people and all those that brevity excludes.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:10am
  - Flossie
    
    I recall Peter Sharples saying many years ago how insulting incorrect pronunciation of the language is. It put me off even giving it a go.
    And when I hear the mess many make of speaking English….cher bro…
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:46am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Flossie… its Chuur Bro…. Just saying
      
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      March 14, 2024 11:52am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And even when you’ve made the attempt to learn the language (or had just grown-up knowing stuff), you’re still going to be told by some folks that you’ve misunderstood the meaning/context, because you’re not part of the inner circle of “experts”.
      
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      March 14, 2024 12:53pm
  - Paulus
    
    Where do you find 180,000 Maori possible linguists as there are no meaningful figures, with something like several hundreds of thousand in Australia alone with no knowledge, of, or want to any more.
    We are being mushroomed as to any accurate Maori statistics to suit the political whim.
    Their participation in the two recent Censuses have been abysmal along with Electoral registers.
    No Honesty, only politically suitable guess work when needed.
    
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    March 14, 2024 1:57pm
- cmm
  
  It is really just a side show.
  
  If they provide proper medical services I don’t care what they call me.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:30am
Hong Jianhong

This union is in total denial.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/michael-wood-e-tu-negotiation-specialist-labels-tvnzs-top-down-approach-dangerous-following-widespread-cuts/

Incredibly the union has employed Michael Wood to stop the “dangerous” TVNZ cuts. Good luck with that. 😂
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March 14, 2024 8:39am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  “Incredibly the union has employed Michael Wood”. That may be so, but at least they’ll be able to walk around saying “I’ve got wood”.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:43am
  - Paulus
    
    Wood comes from thick planks does it not !
    
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    March 14, 2024 1:58pm
    - Nobby2
      
      The length of the thick plank also matters, hence the saying “thick as two short planks”. Applies to him in whatever context you use it.
      
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      March 14, 2024 3:32pm
Flossie

A friend and I choked a wee bit last week when we attended her husband’s naturalization ceremony. Part of the preamble about the joys and responsibilities of being a NZ citizen includes the “right to come and go”. We nudged each other and muttered “unless there’s a covid emergency”!
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March 14, 2024 8:40am
kiwikidsnz

Labour making stuff up again…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labour-claimed-there-were-346-landlords-who-owned-200-properties-but-official-data-can-prove-only-one/5TC3HIYIBFGF5CURUBLE5FPYSA/
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March 14, 2024 8:42am
slightlyrighty

Contrast the media treatment of Golriz Ghahramen and Sam Uffindel, and tell me that the Mainstream Media doesn’t have a bias.
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March 14, 2024 8:48am
kiwikidsnz

I haven’t seen this reported in MSM yet…
“>3:1 voters support the Treaty Principles Bill (4:1 National, 6:1 Labour)”

https://thefacts.nz/equality/31-voters-support-the-treaty-principles-bill-41-national-61-labour/
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March 14, 2024 8:50am
- riffer
  
  and in other news, a survey involving two wolves and a sheep has revealed that the majority of survey respondents favoured mutton for dinner.
  
  Beats me how you would expect anyone, without any other context, to respond in any other way, given some of the nonsense that’s been bandied about regarding this topic.
  
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  March 14, 2024 2:43pm
- Ghost
  
  Just for the record today is march 14 2024
  
  The media aren’t going to rehash a poll from October 2023 that they have already reported on
  
  Jezz
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/election-2023-majority-would-support-acts-treaty-referendum-although-voters-unsure-if-they-want-to-vote-on-it/CQFL5K2AFVGFBI6QMJWBYO4MI4/
  
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  March 14, 2024 3:23pm
Elli

The stress poor old David Seymour must be under, he must have enough credits to pick a new suit. Shane Reti could probably steal a car by now. As for Winston, with his unrecognised truama and stress: free avocado smash toast, a bottle of scotch, and President for Life.
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March 14, 2024 8:54am
Simon

GAE cant clear the Red Sea for cargo. What a defeat.
(NZ sent 6 soldiers to join the fight.)
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March 14, 2024 9:01am
Bloody Dago

I am sick of this crap from CORELOGICS:
“Median house prices rose in nearly 60 percent of suburbs across the motu in the past three months, according to CoreLogic. The property data company says 549 out of 935 suburbs it analysed across Aotearoa (about 59 pct) saw a rise in median house prices in Q4. ”
90% of the population just got left out of the conversation. Go Woke go Broke
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March 14, 2024 9:03am
- PeeJay
  
  Sadly, this growing ‘manglish’ hybrid is everywhere and shows no signs of stopping.
  
  For instance, want a new job and fancy popping onto the Seek website? You can “Enter Keywords/Kupumatua” in your search. According to translation websites they actually have this wrong as it should be “kupu matua”, which in their headlong rush to be ‘with it’, it is quite amusing to see such an error.
  
  Dare say it will only be so long before you need to enter the Māori names for a city or region!
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:44am
- Simon
  
  Recently some CCTV monitoring clown cop was asking for help from the public and gave the fake name for Auckland which no one really knows. Nearly everyone would think he was talking about somewhere up north or anywhere.
  
  Its a terrible outcome for Maori with those in power and influence beclowning Maori.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:11am
- Paulus
  
  Without making up figures for the Real Estate Industry Core Logic would be out of business.
  
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  March 14, 2024 2:00pm
I remember when

Drench battle out of ammo: NZ Farmers Weekly.
Although the dench battle is about overuse of chemicals does it not suggest that we should also maintain checks on other medical procedures.
Is it possible overuse vaccinations?
Can vaccinations help viruses to mutate more quickly?
Can vaccinations cause changes in other response mechanisms?
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March 14, 2024 9:04am
Grunter

The MSM slowly catching up on reality….

The question is, why would NATO finally admit this right now after denying reality for the past 2 years?

Something is up….. lack of manpower, lack of ammo, no airpower, Nuland booted out of the War Dept……obviously time to surrender.

CNN Report
“Russia appears on track to produce nearly three times more artillery munitions than the US and Europe, a key advantage ahead of what is expected to be another Russian offensive in Ukraine later this year.”

“Russia is producing about 250,000 artillery munitions per month, or about 3 million a year, according to NATO intelligence estimates of Russian defense production shared with CNN, as well as sources familiar with Western efforts to arm Ukraine. Collectively, the US and Europe have the capacity to generate only about 1.2 million munitions annually to send to Kyiv, a senior European intelligence official told CNN.”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html
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March 14, 2024 9:11am
- All_on_Red
  
  Its a bit more complex than that.
  ‘The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) reported that Russia currently has about three million rounds of old artillery ammunition in its stockpiles, but that much of it is in poor condition.[18] WSJ reported that RUSI and other Western analysts have assessed that Russia’s current domestic ammunition production is not sufficient for its war in Ukraine, so Russia will likely continue relying on supplies from partners.[19] CNN reported on March 11 that NATO intelligence estimates that Russia is producing about 250,000 artillery munitions of unspecified caliber per month totaling about three million shells per year.[20] A senior European intelligence official reportedly told CNN the US and Europe can collectively produce only about 1.2 million shells of unspecified calibers per year for Ukraine. CNN stated that the US military set a goal to produce 100,000 shells per month by the end of 2025 and noted that this is less than half of Russia’s current monthly production, but US Assistant Secretary of the Army for Acquisition, Logistics, and Technology Doug Bush stated on February 5 that this goal of 100,000 shells per month by 2025 only refers to 155mm artillery shells and does not include shells of other calibers that the US produces and that Ukrainian forces use.[21] NATO intelligence estimates of Russian artillery munition production cited by CNN likely include various calibers of munitions, not just 152mm shells that are the analogue to Western 155mm shells, and is likely not a direct comparison to the West’s goals for the production of 155mm shells.’
  Lots more detail on the War in the link
  Note the comments about using old Tanks and labour shortages and Semi conductor shortages in Russia,
  https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-11-2024
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:54am
  - cmm
    
    ” but that much of it is in poor condition.”
    
    So what?
    
    I take it this is almost all 152 howitzer ammunition (the most important staple food of artillery).
    
    Good condition only matters for extreme accuracy at very long range. Otherwise a bit of corrosion etc is not going to matter.
    
    Most of the Russian artillery seems to be deployed at around 20km or so which is not pushing accuracy.
    
    The Russians have so much ammo that they are able to apply Stalin’s WW2 philosophy: Quantity has a quality all of its own.
    
    The entire 155mm output of Europe and USA is only about a 20th of the ammo required to match Russia shell-for-shell. Unless they are doing that the quality of the ammo doesn’t come into the equation. ie. poorly aimed rounds coming in at 20x the rate of well aimed rounds are going to win.
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:44am
    - All_on_Red
      
      I think this is the more salient point from the analysis
      ‘Western analysts have assessed that Russia’s current domestic ammunition production is not sufficient for its war in Ukraine’
      
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      March 14, 2024 10:59am
      - Grunter
        
        It would be great if both Russia and NATO ran out of ammo.
        
        NATO is admitting they are almost at that point now (is anyone claiming otherwise?). But they are also saying Russia has a big stockpile of low-grade ammo – but to cmm’s point above – it still kills people (obviously). My limited understanding, from what I’ve read, is that worn-out field gun barrels also cause inaccuracies, so high-quality shells don’t mean too much fired out of an overused gun (its still inaccurate). So even low-quality ammo is better than none if you’re in a war.
        
        AOR – thanks for the link above, a decent amount of info there. Their battle maps seem to be identical or similar to others I’ve found on other sites.
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:24am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sure Grunter, and now you know where those battle maps came from…
        
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        March 14, 2024 2:43pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Accuracy is critical, or you need vastly more ammunition, and crews, and guns.
      
      Drones have supplanted much of what artillery does, and is more lethal in taking out specific not-dug-in targets, Ukraine are producing something like 3000 killer drones a day.
      
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      March 14, 2024 12:00pm
- Gerrit
  
  Yep; but Russia also now has twice the border length to guard against NATO, so shell distribution and artillery equipment placement becomes critical.
  
  With the recent invasion of Russian territories by Russian renegade soldiers the border already is like a sieve and large parts are undefended.
  
  Even if Russia delivered all 3 million shells to the front line and bombarded Ukraine for 5 years with 15 million shells it would leave a devastated front line to occupy with no material value except the land itself. There will still be 38 million Ukrainians and a NATO army intact. Shells only cover 40 km of a salient. You need how many to devastate 40km before moving to the next 40km?
  
  Zero sum game for the land will be infrastructure clean and not fit for resettlement by Russian peasants unless forced. Russia simply does not have enough people to force the resettlement and pay for the new infrastructure.
  
  Biggest problem for Russia is Belarus. Not the most stable political country and with a citizenship looking enviously over their border at the better living conditions in their western, northern and southern borders. Russia may be forced to place some of their 3 million shells with an occupation force should the Belarus people stage a rebellion.
  
  There will come a time where NATO goes all in and takes Kaliningrad, Murmansk and moves to liberate those Finnish area taken by Stalin. Putting huge pressure on St Peterburg where those 3 million shells will be desperately needed for defence.
  
  How many shells were used over four months to take the tiny bit of land where once was the village of Adviika. Land totally useless unless huge amount of rebuild manpower and material was allocated by Russia.
  
  Unless Russia wants it to be a no go zone but the depth of the salient is not deep enough to protect the land bridge to Crimea.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:40am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Russian artillery doesn’t have the range or accuracy of Western supplied artillery that can do up to 30-40km usefully. Russians are limited to about 20-25km and then only with shitty accuracy from their worn out guns, poor quality ammo and green crews that puts them in easy range of Ukrainian counter-battery fire and explains their eye-watering loss rates (typically 40-50 Russian guns destroyed every day vs generally <5 for Ukraine)
    
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    March 14, 2024 12:06pm
    - cmm
      
      When the “counter battery fire” is only firing a twentieth of the shells it hardly matters how accurate it is.
      
      Even with good accuracy, howitzers EAT ammo. No ammo and they can’t do jack.
      
      Every two or three weeks, Russia fires the whole annual output of USA and Europe. Accuracy won’t sort that out.
      
      As for green crews: Ukraine soldiers don’t last long and they are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Training them up takes a lot of ammo that they don’t have, so the Ukrainians will not be getting anywhere near the potential performance of their guns.
      
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      March 14, 2024 3:35pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Ukraine is going to receive a million additional shells starting in a few weeks and extending over next few months sourced globally by an EU consortium from India and other places (making a financial killing with the high prices being paid). That has freed Ukraine up to use more now as they no longer need to conserve.
        
        The Ukrainians are using a fair number of highly automated western self-propelled guns like the Archer that can drive to a spot, fire off three shells and be gone all in under 60s. Shorter than a the flight time of counterbattery fire.
        
        And Russia has almost no counterbattery radars left to locate Ukrainian guns.
        
        The one bright spot for Russia is their lancet drones that have the range to get to Ukranian guns, and are the cause of most Ukrainian gun losses.
        
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        March 14, 2024 6:43pm
- NothingLeft
  
  The war is undergoing a big shift in recent days as Ukraine is ramping up long range drone production to take out poorly defended and highly vulnerable Regional Russian Refineries up to 1000km from Ukraine.
  
  Interesting that these have been daylight attacks, suggesting use of AI vision based terminal targeting to precisely hit the critical refinery structures.
  
  A couple of complex & vulnerable cracking/distillation columns have been wrecked in last few days representing a significant fraction of Russian transport fuel production that will take months to fix, and will badly impact their ability to maintain regional supply lines and agricultural needs. It may eventually impact their front-line logistics.
  
  The impact to Russian economy will be catastrophic, this is an existential risk for Russia. They have no effective counter, having lost so much air defense equipment in Ukraine and I suspect could lead to extreme escalation by a desperate Putin.
  
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  March 14, 2024 12:16pm
- virtualmark
  
  Intensive use of artillery means you tend to run out of barrels before you run out of shells.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:01pm
  - cmm
    
    Again it comes down to accuracy and range. If you push the guns hard (further range) you use higher pressure charges which erode the barrels faster. If you have a massive numerical advantage then that is less important.
    
    A worn out barrel can still be used for a very long time if you are not using it at maximum range and requiring maximum accuracy. When you’ve got a 20x ammo advantage then you can keep distances a bit shorter and accuracy is far less important.
    
    It really is no different to a rifle barrel. A target rifle barrel might no longer be useful for target shooting after, say, 1000 rounds. But it might still be fine for bush hunting out to 20,000 rounds.
    
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    March 14, 2024 3:43pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Russia might have a 3x ammo advantage, but not more than that. And their 40-60 year old Stockpiles of guns, tanks and APVs that have been out in weather and extensively scavenged for decades are looking very depleted – keeping in mind that they would take best stuff first, what remains is likely barely serviceable and requiring a lot of work to even barely function.
      
      A lot of remaining stocks will have already been cannibalized for parts, and cost of bringing remainder into service will be continually increasing.
      
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      March 14, 2024 6:51pm
Vinicius

The NZ Herald reports that Labour claimed 346 landlords owned 200+ properties, but official data can prove only ONE.

Labour getting their facts wrong again. The much vaunted new Labour Finance Spokesperson Barbara Edmonds made the claim via a press release at the weekend.

The number comes from a story published by the Stuff website in 2021, which was included in a piece of CTU economic analysis. No shock the CTU getting its fact wrong-telling porkies again.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labour-claimed-there-were-346-landlords-who-owned-200-properties-but-official-data-can-prove-only-one/5TC3HIYIBFGF5CURUBLE5FPYSA/
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March 14, 2024 9:14am
Chuck Bird

The Jew hating Greens here and in Oz are hypocrites. One in Oz used a private jet. He seems even worse than James Shaw. I feel no Golly.
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March 14, 2024 9:16am
kowtow

NZME herald doing forensic analysis of Luxon Waitangi speech .

Did they ever on Ardern.
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March 14, 2024 9:22am
gorse

I am at a loss as to the attitude of the left to housing landlords. They seem to think the Government is doing them a big favour, helping their rich mates, by allowing interest deductibility back again. Interest used to be able to be deducted since forever as a legitimate business expense on housing loans. Still is on commercial property loans. The Government is only returning it to the way it was, and should be. The fact that Labour unfairly targeted owners of rental housing seems to be ignored be these people. It does increase rents, we put the rent up $25 pw to cover this, increasing rates etc. A lot of these costs brought about by the last Government. Crickets about that from those.
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March 14, 2024 9:24am
- stiff cheese
  
  But isn’t this new move going to distort the ‘housing market’ in favour of landlords, and against owner-occupiers (with a mortgage) or aspiring first home buyers?
  
  Why shouldn’t Joe Average, with a mortgage to pay on his own home, get to reduce his tax bill in the same manner?
  
  Another possible source of unfairness is the prime lending rate available to some borrowers. For example, do commercial property buyers enjoy lower mortgage rates than the rest of us have to pay?
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:42am
  - graham71
    
    A nurse does 3 years of unpaid training where they incur a student loan and living costs
    A police officer does 6 months training where they are paid and incurs no student loan,
    Why does no journalist ever bring that up?
    
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    March 14, 2024 12:28pm
  - artemisia
    
    Don’t forget that the ‘reduced tax bill’ for rental owners is against the income from the rental, not from overall income, like from the day job.
    
    And also that most rental owners make a loss for the first few years, sometimes quite a few, until the break even point is reached. Under current rules, the loss is ring fenced and carried forward until rental income exceeds rental expenses. Ring fencing of those losses is jam today for revenue collection, but jam ‘tomorrow’ for the rental owners.
    
    Your Joe Average with a mortgage and related expenses – imputed rent levels the playing field. That means the homeowner declares to IRD the market rent for the home and deducts expenses from that. Consider how folk would feel about that if they worked, lived frugally, and eventually paid off the mortgage. Under imputed rent they could still deduct relevant expenses, level playing field and all that, but their income tax bill would skyrocket. Sound fair?
    
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    March 14, 2024 12:56pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    “Why shouldn’t Joe Average, with a mortgage to pay on his own home, get to reduce his tax bill in the same manner”
    
    because they are not paying interest on a borrowing to provide a service i.e. a Rental Property for a third party to rent.
    
    Its not hard. But I suppose like the Left on twitter you probably already know the difference but want to push the unfair line…
    
    And yes large commercial operators borrowing money can get better rates IF their risk profile is lower than Joe Public…. And if they do that is the Banks prerogative as they do the analysis and then assign a margin to the loan based on the analysis undertaken….
    
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    March 14, 2024 5:12pm
- Paulus
  
  Why did so many Landlord cash out of rentals – because Ardern and Robertson stuffed them financially and mad owning a rental not worthwhile.
  In fact many went to first time buyers we are told.
  The mum and dad, with one rental pension property will not return.
  
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  March 14, 2024 2:04pm
  - artemisia
    
    “… mad owning a rental …” Not wrong there Paulus.
    
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    March 14, 2024 3:49pm
Maggie Pie

And here’s something else that’s been getting up my ggoat.
What’s happened to this guy who arrived here on a 6 month ‘Vistors Visa’…… 5 years ago?

https://twitter.com/golrizghahraman/status/1194916128063049729

Is he now a Citizen and able to vote I wonder….
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March 14, 2024 9:37am
- imalwaysright
  
  M.p
  He has been assimilated into the marxist morass. Used to be an A lister on the type of dinner circuit previously haunted by Zaoui. Even wrote a book I think.
  
  P.s The text attatched to the photo has stood the test of time:
  
  “Thrilled and exhausted and free “
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:14am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Sounds like someone must have pulled a few strings then?
    
    https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1195189243011686401
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:38am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Yip
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/24/behrouz-boochani-granted-refugee-status-in-new-zealand
      
      And it was his birthday as well. Coincidence or Koindness?
      
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      March 14, 2024 10:51am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Definately…. Koindness.
        Wonder what he does all day? Hope he’s not bludging off the taxpayer.
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:54am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  He’s a Wellingtonian now
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/feb/17/behrouz-boochani-new-zealand-writer-former-manus-island-detainee-interview
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:52am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    SHEESH! Looks like he needs a bloody good bath 🙁
    Not someone I could have brought home to meet mum.
    
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    March 14, 2024 11:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

Michael Bassett’s thoughts on weaning

it will be a long process weaning people off excessive welfare dependency. Remember, it’s taken more than 50 years to get here so there is no overnight fix.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-2
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March 14, 2024 9:38am
- NothingLeft
  
  Why does it take a long time? If the political will is there it can be done quickly, and start of an electoral term is the best time to do it.
  
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  March 14, 2024 12:21pm
  - cmm
    
    It takes a long time because everyone cares what they think.
    
    Remember that this is not excess money to these people. They have committed it all one way or another. Many will have HP agreements etc – take away these benefits and many people will default on HP, loans etc.
    
    USA has exactly the same problem. They’re adding $10k USD to their national debt every year for every man woman and child. They have factored this into what they consider normal life. Take that away and they will interpret that as suffering. The economic shock of doing this would be huge.
    
    If the beneficiaries had to tighten their belts then it wouldn’t be too bad if the taxpayers ended up paying less tax and still kept spending.
    
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    March 14, 2024 3:29pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Rip the plaster off. Always better in the long run.
    
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    March 14, 2024 7:46pm
Scooter

Is it Sky Fields or Ski Fields, lazy journo’s prove again they don’t spell check.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/early-edition/audio/weston-kirton-ruapehu-district-mayor-accepts-that-this-is-the-last-government-bailout-for-the-ski-fields/
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March 14, 2024 9:43am
I remember when

Sudden dry-off order shocks sheep milkers: NZ Farmers Weekly.
One of New Zealand’s two main sheep milking companies has told its 13 farmers-suppliers to dry off its sheep.
Maui Milk is one of many companies being impacted by the imbalance between supply and demand for NZ sheep dairy products.
Supplier Allan Browne, who farms 1700 ewes near Cambridge told RNZ, “Receiving an email at 4.30pm telling us to stop milking and dry off our sheep immediately was a big shock.
It’s very awkward because we’re trying to get them pregnant, so starving them to dry them off is not really an option”
The lost income will be close to half a million dollars, he said.
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March 14, 2024 9:52am
- Gertie
  
  Diversify they said….although he is still probably better off milking them than fattening lambs. I killed some cull ewes earlier this week. I got paid $62 …..I think without China we are buggered.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:16am
cmm

So GG and her friends say she has taken full responsibility for her offending.

And yet “The document said Ghahraman did not recall taking the shirt from Cre8tiveworx but did admit to both shoplifting incidents at Scotties.”

Denying, or “forgetting”, offending is hardly taking full responsibility.

This suggests to me at least one of the following:
* She’s a damn liar. She remembers full well.
* There are numerous other offenses that she’s not admitting.

Either way she is failing to take full responsibility for her actions.

Surely shop lifting must be high stress. I can remember well a low level crime I participated in in 1984. Very well. I still feel some guilt/whatever today and have never done that again.

The only way she could have truly forgotten an offense like this less than a year ago is if she had so many offences that it is lost in the blur. That would surely need to be many dozen offenses.

I see there is also reporting that she went into Scotties with two associates. I wonder whether they were accomplices?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-ghahraman-shoplifting-freshly-released-court-document-reveals-details-of-offending/RVMBZ7J6PRGMDLKFYFZQLX4OFU/
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March 14, 2024 10:13am
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: I think you can fairly confidently assume that in this context “associates” means “accomplices”
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:28am
  - riffer
    
    Well, you could, but you’d be an idiot if you did.
    
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    March 14, 2024 2:51pm
- Paulus
  
  Bus Ticket being moistened !
  
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  March 14, 2024 2:06pm
thirteenstars

Interesting discussion on the radio this morning about the chemical and surgical alteration of children to address the mental health issue of gender dysphoria. Of course it’s a barbaric act and should be outlawed leaving such a decision to adulthood. The point was made that overseas there are increasing numbers of children suing parents for facilitating such practises.

The name of the new Minister of Mental Health, Matt Doocey (National), was brought up as having said he looked forward to his children eventually declaring their own gender, which I thought was a joke until I found it in a speech he gave in support of the Conversion Practises Prohibition bill in 2022:

I also stand here as someone who’s a proud father of two young children, a boy and a girl—and I do look forward to celebrating their sexual orientation, their gender identity that they will decide…

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/document/HansS_20220208_053460000/doocey-matt
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March 14, 2024 10:20am
David Garrett

And here it is on Stuff..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350211688/extent-golriz-ghahramans-shoplifting-revealed

I am absolutely NOT a conspiracy theorist – in fact I often mock them – but surely it cannot be that this is only now being reported in full after Cam Slater made her previously unscheduled court appearance public?

Or did I miss something yesterday (I was incommunicado for several hours yesterday, so I may well have missed MSM coverage).
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March 14, 2024 10:26am
- David Garrett
  
  Does anyone know what that guy waving a torch in front of Golly G was trying to do? Surely he didn’t think what would in some way affect the filming??
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:32am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I thort it was the Energizer Bunny 😀
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Doesn’t it disable some of the pixels in the camera?
    
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    March 14, 2024 11:02am
  - cmm
    
    It will temporarily blind someone interfering with their ability to take a photo. It will potentially confuse camera exposure sensors resulting in over/under exposed pics.
    
    But these days most high end cameras will figure it out. People even film welding without special filters or such.
    
    I have some extremely powerful and small torches which can concentrate 1000+ lumens into an area the size of a postage stamp at 5 metres. Shine that in someone’s eyes and they can’t see properly for a minute or two. Bloody painful too.
    
    In some areas of the world that would be considered assault but as we’ve discussed below it would seem that is unlikely in NZ.
    
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    March 14, 2024 11:18am
thirteenstars

I posted here yesterday about a disturbing interview Sean Plunket conducted with Broadcasting Minister Melissa Lee:

She waffled on about needing to reform the Broadcasting Act because apparently TVNZ and RNZ have been operating on an uneven playing field. She also expressed sympathy for the Digital Services Tax bill which would see tech companies taxed and the revenue used to subsidise media.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/03/general_debate_13_march_2024.html#comment-3528016

I suspect Lee will recommend some form of extra support or bailout for TVNZ/RNZ effectively shielding them from the consequences of their actions, possibly even going as far as full non-commercial status.

Here is the Plunket interview and another with Lee sitting cosy on the couch at TVNZ:

https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/what-the-hell-is-melissa-lee-up-to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncEb5LA1xfg

You decide.
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March 14, 2024 10:31am
- Jack5
  
  Melissa Lee held up well in the TVNZ interview.
  
  She isn’t going to be bulldozed.
  
  The Coalition is going soft on matters such as subsidising a skifield, so they won’t do a scorched earth campaign on the bloc of State owned and State subsidised media. Prepare to be disappointed.
  
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  March 14, 2024 9:57pm
  - Ghost
    
    Don’t forget mbie are the main creditors of the ski field, and as such have appointed consultants to run it
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:09pm
    - Jack5
      
      But the big political pull will surely come from the thousands of passholders among the unsecured creditors.
      
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      March 14, 2024 10:55pm
      - Ghost
        
        I think the big problem is Jack this government are left having to clean up a big bloody lemon created by the minister who was responsible for this, Kiri Allan
        
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        March 14, 2024 11:29pm
  - Jack5
    
    Surely I was mistaken when I thought I heard Melissa Lee say in the TVNZ interview that the State was putting $300 million a year into the media?
    
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    March 14, 2024 10:27pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Dallas Seavey wins the Iditarod for the 6th time.
This is the guy that had to kill a moose the got entangled with his dog team. Race Officials gave him a 2 hour penalty for not gutting the moose properly. At the time he said the gutting was ‘nasty.’
Fancy being 5 hours behind at half way, and still winning!

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2024/03/13/dallas-seavey-claims-record-6th-iditarod-crown/?
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March 14, 2024 10:41am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is the waste that needs to be stopped in NZ.
I think the money is being trousered.

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/bailouts_a_slippery_slope

Edited for wrong link posted.
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March 14, 2024 10:47am
- Inandout
  
  SO, another chip in the Coalition armour displayed, even though Jones claims this is the last ‘as God is my witness’. he told Hosking.
  
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  March 14, 2024 12:29pm
cmm

I see GG’s muscle is shining a high intensity torch into people’s faces and cameras etc.

In some countries that would be considered potential assault.

What about NZ?
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March 14, 2024 10:48am
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: As you know I don’t practise criminal law…but unless things have changed since I was at law school I very much doubt you can have “assault by torch”…there have of course been cases of people convicted of aiming lasers at the pilots of planes, but that would be a specific offence I think.
  
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  March 14, 2024 10:53am
  - graham
    
    As cmm comments above, you can get some VERY powerful torches now. EG:
    
    https://www.torchmonster.co.nz/Olight-X9R
    
    Point something like that at someone’s eyes and I would *like* to think a decent case could be made for assault.
    
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    March 14, 2024 11:31am
- Swifty
  
  I saw that – what a bloody idiot.
  
  And why didn’t GG or her barrister put a stop to it? Or were they in on it?
  
  Why the hell would you do such a thing? Show some bloody contrition, don’t come across as a great bloody bully with hired muscle.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:02am
  - cmm
    
    ” Or were they in on it? ”
    He’s the hired muscle.
    Or did you think he’s just some random dude who showed up to, erm, white knight for GG?
    
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    March 14, 2024 3:22pm
    - Swifty
      
      No, I mean did they know in advance he was going to do the torch thing and that they approved of it.
      
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      March 14, 2024 6:41pm
- kowtow
  
  Clearly a very overt ( and very likely planned and intended) attempt to interfere with the sacred duty of members of the fourth estate to freely gather news of great import to the public and to disseminate same.
  
  Given this is done in the context of a former very high profile Green MP , I fully expect the MSM to investigate this to the full extent of their abilities ( as we know they would had this been a member of the blue or yellow team’s entourage) and to do extensive , ongoing and continuing exposes of same .
  
  Afterall for the last couple of weeks they’ve been telling us how important they are to us and our democracy.
  
  (By way of example look at how they’ve gone after Luxon’s so called cut and paste Waitangi speech).
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:43am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Funny. It wasn’t so long ago that Golly G was desperate for her photo to be taken.
  
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  March 14, 2024 7:51pm
thirteenstars

Australian wine glut:

The latest government figures show that Australia had more than 2 billion litres of wine in storage in mid-2023. That is equivalent to approximately two years’ worth of production.

Some of the excess wine held in storage is spoiling, forcing producers to sell their stocks at sharp discounts.

https://www.decanter.com/wine-news/wine-glut-forces-australian-growers-to-destroy-millions-of-vines-524847

I did notice some tasty reds at very good prices at New World.

Looks like I picked a bad year to give up booze.
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March 14, 2024 10:53am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Get back into it 13 and do what we do. Stock up large while the goings good.
  
  My partner was saying Chynahh has just lifted the 200% tarrif they imposed on Aussie wine about 4 years back, when Scottie from Marketing p*ssed them off after he blamed Xi for the Covid pandemic.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:47am
- NothingLeft
  
  Most varieties of wine are better when aged for a few years. One would expect many years worth of supply to be in storage for that reason alone. Two years seems low.
  
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  March 14, 2024 12:26pm
- MCōs
  
  “Some of the excess wine held in storage is spoiling, forcing producers to sell their stocks at sharp discounts.”
  Tourists on the streets of Bangkok hear that sort of talk from scammers all the time
  
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  March 14, 2024 2:26pm
NothingLeft

Latest Open AI robot doing domestic activities with verbal instruction and interaction.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1767913661253984474

There will be vast numbers of highly versatile domestic and commercial robots in service by end of decade. Putting a lot of minimum wage earners out of work, but also eliminating most domestic chores.
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March 14, 2024 11:09am
- cmm
  
  ” Putting a lot of minimum wage earners out of work”
  
  A lot of the reason to eliminate these workers is not the labour cost, but rather the problems trying to employ them – reliability at showing up for work etc.
  
  The robot generally doesn’t throw sickies.
  
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  March 14, 2024 3:20pm
cmm

If you’re charging an EV using coal-fired electricity then you’re emitting about twice the CO2 of someone driving a “gas guzzler”.

Using a Nissan Leaf and a Suzuki Swift as fairly equivalent vehicles:
A Nissan Leaf gets about 5 to 6km/kWh after charging inefficiencies etc.
Burning coal to make electricity releases about 1000g CO2/kWh. Therefore about 180g CO2/km.

The Suzuki Swift generates around 105g CO2/km. About half that.

EVs should really be considered marginal load which are using marginal generation (ie. the most polluting generation). In other words, when someone plugs in an EV, Huntly needs to work harder to meet the load.

So, why bother?
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March 14, 2024 11:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why bother? Because it’s Green and you get the warm fuzzies.
  Can’t think of any other reason.
  
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  March 14, 2024 11:25am
- JackRabbit
  
  Why bother? Optics.
  
  It is better to be seen being virtuous, than to actually be virtuous. Especially if the cause is bullshit.
  
  None of the Green virtue signalers actually believe the causes they “support” but it is good optics to appear to be doing so.
  
  Like all those brand ambassador celebs that endorse endorse various products, but don’t use them, and throw their freebies in the trash.
  
  Or like the ex PM who said that 80,000 would die and that Covid was super sneaky and the figures from the POT indicated a monstrous IFR rate 1,000 higher than a bad flu. But that former PM didn’t wear a hazmat suit or a sealed hazmat mask with oxygen tanks; she strutted around like nothing was wrong, hugging and taking selfies with complete strangers.
  
  And no-one on the left stopped having cocktail parties, or drunken orgies. All the while laughing and taking the piss.
  
  It was all about optics.
  
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  March 14, 2024 12:04pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Are you saying that the wind doesn’t blow harder when people charge their EVs?
  
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  March 14, 2024 3:06pm
BeaB

With all the reasons/excuses dreamed up to explain why Golriz stole expensive clothing, what about greed? Even when you earn a lot, a designer skirt can seem too much of an extravagance. Easier to stuff it in your capacious bag – which you conveniently have brought with you. On every visit. A kind of middle class ram raid.
I think she wanted to parade in designer gear but didn’t want to pay the price. Greed not PTSD or being a ‘refugee’ or stress or ADHD or any other specious bs.
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March 14, 2024 11:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  It was a very selective form of mental stress she exhibited.
  
  I think she will suffer an even deeper form of mental stress when she finally realises she is nobody special – just another low-life thief ripping off working-class folk.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:02pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Left wing owners of Scotties boutique have conspired to reduce the valuation of goods that Golriz stole to help with minimizing her sentencing.
  
  The left wing tribe protects it’s own, and saves the violence and malice for their ideological enemies.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:37pm
  - riffer
    
    Evidence?
    
    Or your own reckons?
    
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    March 14, 2024 2:55pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      https://twitter.com/Suitandtie9999/status/1767979891478376897
      
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      March 14, 2024 3:25pm
  - Ghost
    
    Rubbish. Bit pathetic to attack the victim of a crime and claim they are part of a conspiracy when they were the ones that laid charges.
    
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    March 14, 2024 3:11pm
MCōs

There were three police cars outside my house this morning
I saw a copper with a dog and he said they were doing some training, but I could read right through his G J Gardner smile like a newspaper
You better come straight with me, sunshine, I hissed
Pay me first, he whined
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March 14, 2024 11:34am
Maggie Pie

The Hosk was saying this morning that a 19year old ‘Solo Mother’ with 2 kids
is entitled to benwefits totalling $1760 a week…..OVER 90 GRAND A YEAR!!

No wonder it’s become an industry 🙁
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March 14, 2024 11:34am
- MCōs
  
  Here’s all the benefit rates here from the 1-April, 2024
  I can’t work out where that figure comes from
  https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/products/benefit-rates/benefit-rates-april-2024.html
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:27pm
- miltonF
  
  And who pays for it all? A patriarchy we are not. Where are all the feminists on this issue? Oh that’s right…they call themselves feminists but they are actually misandrists.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:47pm
- mandk
  
  I thought he was reporting a case from the UK, in the context of a story about the high labour force non-participation rate over there.
  
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  March 14, 2024 2:52pm
Ghost

Found out more on this case, just bloody disgusting

A Timaru principal has offered support on behalf of his school after a staff member was charged in relation to an incident that saw a student knocked off a moped on Monday

Article

The man, now fired, worked with disabled children in a school. The wife, who was the passenger encouraging him is a primary school teacher
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March 14, 2024 12:05pm
graham71

A nurse does 3 years of unpaid training where they incur a student loan and living costs
A police officer does 6 months training where they are paid and incurs no student loan,
Why does no journalist ever bring that up?
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March 14, 2024 12:23pm
NothingLeft

Here’s a sad little factoid from a Scandinavian study:

If you give men more money, for example a lottery win, it generally results in them having more kids – either with current partner or with a new partner. They plough their fortunes into more family

If you give women more money (same lottery win) it generally doesn’t increase the number of kids they will have, but does increase the likelihood that they will end their current relationship as they look to ‘trade up’ for a higher status male.

In effect on average men are makers and women dissipaters.

So if you want birth rates to go up, and your culture to thrive, you need to change laws so that men get control of more money and women less, particularly through relationship splits, because of where our sexually dimorphic natures drive us.
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March 14, 2024 12:37pm
- julesnzuk
  
  What a load of crap. I agree there is a serious conversation to be had around the need to re-empower boys and men (for the sake of women as much as anything – the current crop of simps and milksops is hardly satisfactory for us) – but suggesting it should be done at the expense of women’s empowerment or by subjugating women is risable. Feel free to proffer some suggestions that don’t invite ridicule.
  
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  March 15, 2024 4:47am
Maggie Pie

Hate to say “I told you so”, but Police are reporting that the body found wrapped in 3 black plastic rubbish bags floating in Gulf Harbor …..’was that of a small Asain woman, possibly Chinese’

I told you so.
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March 14, 2024 12:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

“Maori were self-annihilating and, left to themselves, would have killed their own race to the point of extinction.
The chiefs invited British intervention. Maori were addicted to war and couldn’t help themselves.”

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-16/?
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March 14, 2024 1:24pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Reading further you can see why a lot of pre 1840 facts are not mentioned in the comic.
  Why?
  “Why? Because it does not fit the Maori activist propaganda narrative.
  Which is? “That Maori prior to the Treaty were a peaceful and loving race of people who lived in an idyllic paradise. A Shangri la. When the British forced their way in here, tricking the chiefs to sign Treaty, their coming shattered the Maori way of life.”
  
  Can’t have future voters thinking otherwise – hence the comic in High Schools!
  Child abuse. The comic is aimed at children. Let’s learn how to play the victim card.
  
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  March 14, 2024 1:37pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxCi6SmF28
A Defeat For Fa-ni and Nate.
Some of the charges have been dropped. Trump isn’t out of the woods yet. Its a start though.
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March 14, 2024 1:32pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Fa-ni making a big Fa-ni out of herself?
  Some are too smart for their own good.
  Many will fail soon.
  
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  March 14, 2024 4:41pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ii2GtC29kY
Gary Judd KC on New Tikanga Māori Requirements for Law Students.
Sean Plunket talks to Gary Judd KC about new Tikanga Māori requirements for law students. The previous government was right into all this stuff.
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March 14, 2024 1:32pm
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  Lawyers love this stuff (present company excepted).
  It opens a whole new market for them.
  
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  March 14, 2024 3:42pm
Inandout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_Oceania#New_Zealand

I suspect for every mosque listed here very many Christian churches are closed. I know covid had an effect on church numbers and consequently closures, but should we be concerned?
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March 14, 2024 2:26pm
Maggie Pie

The Apartment Market is HOT out at Manukau by the sound of things.

One of the RE Agents approached for comment, said he had a number of registered buyers willing to pay 10 TIMES above the reserve.

https://oneroof.co.nz/news/1-reserve-auction-absentee-owner-willing-to-take-massive-hit-on-640-000-apartment-45144
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March 14, 2024 2:31pm
Ghost

The movement of a flight deck seat is a key focus of the probe into a sudden mid-air dive by a LATAM Airlines Boeing 787 plane that left more than 50 people injured, aviation industry publication the Air Current reported.

Based on the available information it was understood the seat movement was “pilot induced, not intentionally,” the report said, opens new tab, citing a senior airline safety official.

“The seat movement caused the nose down” angle of the aircraft, the publication said, citing another anonymous source who added the possibility of an electrical short was also under review.

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March 14, 2024 2:59pm
- Inthe09
  
  Rumour is there was a cabin crew member in the cockpit at the time too….
  
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  March 14, 2024 5:04pm
NothingLeft

Bizarre – around half the population don’t have an inner monologue – the ability to think about things in a conversational way inside their heads.

Quick poll; Uptick if you have an inner monologue, downtick if you don’t.
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March 14, 2024 3:23pm
Maggie Pie

In Memory Of Marsden Point.

“The world will continue using oil and gas for a very long time,
despite the current focus on renewables.
The oil industry will be swamped with demand for another 100 years.
Jobs in this sector have a secure future”

– Pres. Vladimir Putin (RT. 13March 2024)
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March 14, 2024 3:58pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There ya go Jaspinda:
  “The world will continue using oil and gas for a very long time,
  despite the current focus on renewables.
  The oil industry will be swamped with demand for another 100 years.
  Jobs in this sector have a secure future”
  Job for life and it will pay much more than UN. You can call the shots Jaspinda! Uncle Vlad said so…..
  
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  March 14, 2024 5:04pm
Chris Nisbet

“How to train your pakeha”.
Remind me why we need a human rights commision… other than to give us an example of what _not_ to be like.
My taxes pay for these people, and that doesn’t make me happy.
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March 14, 2024 4:04pm
Bobba Fret

I just had a look at The Standard, funny that there is not a single comment about Gloriz, and yet she was front page news this morning.
I guess even they are finding it hard to defend her actions, and of course if someone made a negative comment about her, probably an instant ban.
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March 14, 2024 4:15pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Quite a number of people on ‘X’ saying it’s because they’ve all become bitches.
  
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  March 14, 2024 4:51pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Goodness…
  Over a period of 12 hours they’ve only got 11 comments on today’s “Open Mike”.
  
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  March 14, 2024 5:12pm
Bullion

New city defeats old town in Wellington district plan meeting today. Good stuff, now pro housing Bishop needs to approve it all.
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March 14, 2024 4:55pm
Maggie Pie

‘WCC has passed by-law allowing Mosques to broadcast mussie ‘Call to Prayer’
over loud speakers five times a day’

– HDPA (1zb)

What next….public stonings?
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March 14, 2024 5:07pm
- PurplePen
  
  F…k!!!!!???? Nooooooooo!!!!! Have you read the horrid brutal teachings in their Koran. No way. This is NOT our way. This is what was reported. It’s an initiative from Tory Whanau. I think she is deliberately wanting to goad all non-Muslims.
  
  REPORTED ….
  Amendments by mayor Tory Whanau
  Changes to noise limits for music venues and prayer calls
  Instruct council staff to report back on options to ensure music venues aren’t affected by noise limits. This has been an ongoing issue for some venues, including Meow, San Fran, and Valhalla. Whanau also wants changes to allow broadcasted calls to prayer to be played from loudspeakers on mosques and other religious buildings.
  
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  March 14, 2024 5:11pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well, youse voted for her 😀 😀 😀
    
    (Although I do miss the Church Bells here on a Sunday morn.)
    
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    March 14, 2024 5:28pm
    - PurplePen
      
      I did NOT vote for her!!! I’m moving to South Island
      
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      March 14, 2024 5:58pm
- MCōs
  
  I used to live quite close to a mosque and they cranked up at about 4.30am depending on the time of year
  Quite noisy in the still of the night. I would imagine in Wellington they’d last about a day doing that
  We also had a Buddhist temple nearby that started ringing bells about 4am at a certain time of year. That’ll be fun if it catches on in the capital
  
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  March 14, 2024 7:13pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Why on earth would yu move to mongere then?
    Talk abot the frying pan ti the fire 😀
    
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    March 14, 2024 8:27pm
SmokerGuy

Chilling story on Te Pati Māori:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/te-pati-maori-warning-to-landlords-enjoy-the-benefits-while-you-can/7SU54GO745FKVGZLC7MOSJS4WY/

So not only are they unhappy that the government is implementing a policy it campaigned on but they will force the money to be paid back if they are part of a future government. This party is getting more extreme over time and they are stirring hatred as much as they can. I really worry about the potential for real conflict in this country in future if these idiots keep going down the path they are. It’s scary actually, I can see land occupations like they had in Zimbabwe in 15-20 years time.
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March 14, 2024 5:53pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  A relative born in Zimbabwe. He skipped to NZ. Made a business in vineyard.
  He arrived in NZ with NZ$20 in his hand.
  He says NZ is still going down the wrong path – no matter which Party rules.
  Sad really, when the NZ Citizens are just too fucking lazy to make their own path.
  
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  March 14, 2024 7:34pm
- julesnzuk
  
  They can try land occupations – and best of luck to them. These people are a tiny minority, can’t see them having any success and if they somehow do manage to cause significant disruption it could be a good thing – might actually jolt the rest of NZ out of their complacent stupor to give them the thorough kicking they deserve.
  
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  March 15, 2024 4:53am
  - SmokerGuy
    
    You think the police will stop it? We’ve been far too easy on this group of extremists and it will come back to bite us. They are growing in numbers and are emboldened after Labour gave into all their demands the last 6 years.
    
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    March 15, 2024 8:32am
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      I completely agree – we have been far too easy. But I do think the tipping point (which as you say should have come a long time ago) will be any attempted theft of private property. If the police don’t stop it someone will. Not sure I buy the idea they’re growing in numbers either – a small minority scream and shout but most of their followers are pretty thick and pretty useless, they’ve been seduced by the cult of victimhood but they’d be the first to bolt at the first sign of any serious conflict. They’re certainly not capable of leading any sort of insurrection.
      
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      March 15, 2024 10:21am
Ghost

Incredible, do you people even realise how you acted the past 6 years in government, and then you have a go at national who haven’t even come close to what you did

One Labour MP on Thursday appeared to even suggest New Zealand could go the way of the United States or Russia if we don’t follow due process.

“Ignoring the process of Parliament, the process of democracy, we watched a guy do that in the United States,” Greg O’Connor said.

“I’m not comparing the current Government to Trump.

“…Certainly, maybe in Russia would be another good comparison, where if you ignore your processes of government, processes of democracy, there will be a price to pay in the long term.”

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From the party that was stealing rate payers assests, creating separatist policy and didn’t campaign on a lot of what they did to this country
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March 14, 2024 7:27pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Why have to deal with snob customers? I don’t want to work.

https://www.themix.net/2018/11/loudmouth-welfare-queen-brags-that-shell-never-have-to-work/?

Fuck!!!!
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- MCōs
  
  Some great articles on that site
  “Fun Fact: John Wayne Was Paid In Bourbon For His Appearance On ‘The Beverly Hillbillies’ “
  
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  March 14, 2024 8:06pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Same woulsd apply to more than half the benes in this country!
  
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