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Chuck Bird

I put $100 on a change of government in Oz at $2.65.

What do others think of my chance? Labor has some internal problems.
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March 9, 2024 8:06am
- Cassandra
  
  You’ve just lost your money, I fear. The Coalition also has problems and the Teals still a force.
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:25am
- Che Guava
  
  What difference does it make?
  
  Australia is an excellent example of having two essentially indistinguishable parties swapping positions every few years but taking the country in exactly the same direction. Britain and America are other examples.
  
  In Britain particularly, “Blairism” has been the policy for 25 years, 14 of which have been “conservative” governments.
  
  “Liberal democracies” are really just a power sharing arrangement between parties representing the interests of the same special interests.
  
  This is why one liberal democracy is essentially indistinguishable from all the others in their fundamental policy programs and trajectories. .
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:14am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    There is a major difference in energy. The Coalition supports nuclear power generation.
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:27am
peterwn

“NZ Film Commission approves $800,000 public funding for new Jacinda Ardern documentary”
Would the Film Commission grant $800k for a docu on Chris Luxon in due course?
What other grants have been made for docus on former PM’s?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/nz-film-commission-approves-800000-public-funding-for-new-jacinda-ardern-documentary-media-insider/7C2PTDNZP5DCBFGGRCOUESZ3HY/
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March 9, 2024 8:11am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Can’t wait for Chloe – a grrl’s story…
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:59am
  - Matt Long
    
    Or Golriz, how bad people saying hurtful things made me steal.
    
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    March 9, 2024 1:04pm
- Miritu
  
  And yet Luxon will happily continue funding this costly institution, and raise our taxes accordingly.
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:38pm
- Jack5
  
  The Stuff report of the Jacindarella film documentary includes:
  
  “In total it is expected the documentary will cost $3.2 million to make.
  
  “There had been significant investment from local and international partners … ”
  
  Who are the “partners” prepared to put up money for this Ardern film?
  
  Taxpayers are entitled to know who they’re going into partnership with.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:10pm
Grunter

Every now and then Piers Morgan does a decent interview on his YT channel ‘Uncensored’. This is one of those IMO

Eric Weinstein has been described as todays Einstein (maybe he is). No doubt he has very high IQ (maths etc).

They cover a wide range of topics, COVID, MSM, scientists that lie, crappy universities, nukes, Gaza, Ukraine,……

Near the end Morgan tries his usual click bait trap, but Weinstein is way too clever to fall for it – good to see how he handles it.

Anyway, I found it an interesting watch (not saying I agree with all his views but he gets you thinking)

https://youtu.be/v8y5_gGF9H8?
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March 9, 2024 8:12am
- Ra Henare
  
  Many thanks for the heads up Grunter on the Weinstein interview
  
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  March 9, 2024 4:45pm
all true

No wonder the PM rates low in the last polls, his government has approved nearly 1 million for documentary for JA which has ruined this country, all what she deserves is being for a while on the King’s porridge.
All what their are doing to white washing her.
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March 9, 2024 8:21am
- Ghost
  
  Nothing to do with the prime minister or government, they are not part of the funding decisions of the film commission. As for the funding they are spending, it will be from budget 2023. They also get grants from lotto and income from their films.
  
  I’m not going to watch the movie and I have no doubt it will bomb. But just because people don’t like Ardern doesn’t mean a film shouldn’t be funded. It’s got international backing
  
  I’m looking forward to seeing the docu bomb and left cry over how bad it does.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:47am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Hopefully the final scene is of her in a jail cell.
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:55am
    - Nukuleka
      
      This is the kind of comment that encourages people to think that centre- right folk are nut jobs. Just a very silly and childish remark, imalwaysright!
      
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      March 9, 2024 11:26am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Nuk,
        I thought I was being rather restrained, capital punishment was my first thought.
        Enjoy your movie.
        
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        March 9, 2024 11:35am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I agree with imalwaysright. The amount of damage she did to our lovely Country and the Citizens needs to be addressed and punishment given, otherwise she will do the same when she slithers inti United Nations.
        I suggest throw Nuremberg 2.0 at her!
        
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        March 9, 2024 2:02pm
  - Simon
    
    It will bomb for normal people but it’s being made for the Ardern cult and zero covid nut jobs. They keep 10% of population bubbling along with Ardern as some sort of covid hero which they can use as a base for the next manufactured crisis. A base of harden nutjobs which didn’t exist in 2020. A reservoir of permanent brain washed to draw upon when needed in the future.
    
    It’s sick and should be closed down by National but they are ignorant.
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:27am
    - Ghost
      
      No it shouldn’t. The film commission should remain independent of government interference. The doco already has over $3 million of independent funding.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:42am
      - Miritu
        
        The film commission should not remain at all, it should be disbanded, along with numerous other state quangos. Javier Milei leads the way
        https://reason.com/2023/12/29/milei-brings-his-chainsaw-to-argentinas-regulatory-state/
        
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        March 9, 2024 1:48pm
      - Ghost
        
        Yeah I’m bringing to realise the right might lead the way for the cancel culture in nz. If not for the film commission we wouldn’t have all the publicity and tourism that lord of the rings created
        
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        March 9, 2024 2:00pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes actually, I think I remember the whining Hipkins spouting out about this straight after he became pm
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:19pm
  - Paulus
    
    Waste of Taxpayers money I hope you mean.
    
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    March 9, 2024 1:14pm
- leoj
  
  Luxon’s wokeness and lack of spine is slowly being revealed.
  
  Both Peters and Seymour need to take him aside, give him some help.
  
  The Nats stance on the Treaty Principles bill is a disgrace. Do they not understand what the election was about?
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:01am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The Nats are sticking exactly with the three way coalition agreement, people like you should be asking Seymour why the he’ll is that signed till first reading, all three parties signed to this, and let’s not forget that NZF were bitterly opposed to the treaty principles bill before the election, stop putting all the blame on Luxon.
    
    How can Luxons favourables have dropped so much in a month when he has delivered exactly what he pledged to do, from what I see, no politician has a positive favorable, so what do people want
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:24pm
    - Ghost
      
      Because seymour constantly shows he is nothing but an arrogant mouth and can’t follow through with anything. Act will need to consider a new leader before the next election, if they are smart they will pick one within the next year. A decent leader would have a better deal than what he got. A decent leader wouldn’t have lost so much support in the campaign because of his mouth
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:31pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        True, and the down votes are so sickening, how can they be seen as level headed voters when they can’t understand the simple coalition agreement
        
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        March 9, 2024 7:51pm
    - leoj
      
      The answer to your question can be found in my first sentence.
      
      Wokeness and weakness.
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:54pm
    - leoj
      
      The Government is set to keep co-governance of fresh water: rivers, lakes, and rules for agricultural run off will be subject to ‘te Mana o te Wai’
      
      Luxon is taking advice from bureaucrats that the treaty rules and that iwi must be consulted before any changes can be made to current policy.
      
      Let’s see if he really does intend to keep his promise.
      
      My guess is: No. He’s a maori sympathyser.
      
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      March 9, 2024 2:06pm
  - Ghost
    
    Sounds like you are the one lacking a spine, you blame Luxon for everything that has nothing to do with him. You actually sound like a little child that is throwing a tanty because they didn’t get their way. Is that you Jacinda? Or are you grant? Because you sound just like them
    
    The election was more than the act party who only got 8.64% of the countries vote. Funny thing is people like you bitched about Winston first in the Ardern government being the tail wagging the dog, and here you are throwing a childish tanty because the tail isnt wagging the dog and becuase Seymour wasn’t smart enough to get a better deal than he got, which is the deal that both national and nz first are honouring.
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:28pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Exactly, snd more pathetic down votes
      
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      March 9, 2024 7:57pm
- Paulus
  
  But did I not read that a number of those very seniors in the so called Film Commission are friends of hers, and some were at her wedding.
  Jobs for the girls.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:18am
  - Ghost
    
    One was a friend at her wedding he removed himself from the vote on funding it.
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:20pm
    - Paulus
      
      Yea !
      I believe he removed himself for the actual vote after a discussion.
      
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      March 9, 2024 1:16pm
      - kowtow
        
        Alistair Carruthers.
        
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        March 9, 2024 1:59pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, she was minister of arts and handed money out like the drunken sailor she is
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:26pm
    - MCōs
      
      Who’s the drunken sailor you’re referring to?
      
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      March 9, 2024 2:47pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Ardern
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:00pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It reminds people of the poison we voted out, think smarter please 😃
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:17pm
Chuck Bird

Listen to Leo after 5 minutes about the Granny Basher. There is now way he should have been charged with common assault. It should have been male assaults female or GBH. It appears there is a trans cop involved in this by the name of Rhona Stace.

Free Speech Fridays #60 – Alistair Boyce & Leo Molloy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj26ms-_Ugc
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March 9, 2024 8:21am
- G152
  
  Trans cop eh. No wonder they attend the gay day parade.
  And does he wave his hankie at someone who needs a little spankie…
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:27am
- fernglas
  
  It’s not GBH. That is reserved for really serious bodily harm, like broken bones, shattered skulls and ruptured spleens. Male assaults female is going out of fashion these days for anything other than serious domestic violence. The charge was right, but the outcome was questionable.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:50am
  - rouppe
    
    “like broken bones”
    
    Wasn’t the victims check, or eye socket fractured?
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:26am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    There was a broken bone near her eye. I think male assualts female should go as it is sexist but should be replaced with assault on a vulnerable person like in Oz.
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:33am
  - kowtow
    
    Next up if they didn’t want to man /woman charge ,is assault with intent to injure , injuring with intent to injure .
    
    Other charges available would be disorderly conduct likely to cause violence , unlawful assembly , riot even.
    
    Concussion and a very bruised eye is not common assault.
    
    Talking of soft on crime , be it Cop or court .
    
    Like this;
    
    ‘A Queenstown man who passed a patrol car at nearly 150kmh while running late for work has avoided a conviction for dangerous driving.’
    
    ‘The Indian national, who had been in the country for six months on an accredited employer work visa, was also breaching his new licence, which required him to be accompanied by a full licence holder.’
    
    The roads are dangerous enough as it is.
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/speeding-motorist-avoids-conviction
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:04am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      “very bruised eye”
      
      Her eye socket was broken as was James Shaw’s.
      
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      March 9, 2024 11:35am
      - kowtow
        
        Chuck
        
        I’m not saying bones weren’t broken , but I make my assertion based on this item.
        
        Are the media with holding something here .
        
        ‘She suffered concussion and bruising to her eye and behind her left ear.’
        
        https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-national/discharge-without-conviction-after-punching-71yo-woman
        
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        March 9, 2024 1:02pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    The guy who assaulted James Shaw and broke a bone by his eye socket got nine months in jail and no name suppression. This was roughly the same injury as caused to the 71 year old woman.
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:32am
    - Ghost
      
      The guy that assaulted Shaw said he didn’t want home dentition, he also planned out to confront Shaw. Two different cases with different circumstances. But hey, we’ve known for a very long time our justice system is a joke.
      
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      March 9, 2024 11:43am
      - miltonF
        
        I don’t see the circumstances as much different to be honest. I’d wager the granny basher was also looking for a confrontation.
        
        He should have gotten the same sentence as Shaw’s attacker. Possibly slightly longer as his victim was more vulnerable.
        
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        March 9, 2024 5:44pm
- Simon
  
  It wasn’t a decision made along justice lines but a political decision. This is NZ in 2024. Unless National are able to purge the Justice system of political decision making NZ is lost.
  
  Who is running NZ? It isn’t who everyone voted for.
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:33am
  - Mr Nobody NZ
    
    100% correct and the same is happening with the Chloe decision from my understanding with the decision making process around division [I think you mean Golriz, and diversion. mod.] not occuing in Auckland as would usual for any other offender but rather Police HQ.
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:13am
  - Ghost
    
    And I’m sure you can provide evidence for that, but more than likely not. The fact is this was not GBH and if the police had laid such a charge it would go nowhere.
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:37am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They are wanting to bring in less of a discount on sentencing, and three strikes, it takes time to change law, surely we can give them a chance, apparently it’s automatic 50% discount, then add in race discount, behaviour since arrest, up bringing and family situation, this leads to some doing 20% of the time, but they want no less than 2/3 of sentence to be the maximum discount
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:31pm
G152

And whats the bet that the hamas terrorists hiding amongst the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip are not going hungry????????
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March 9, 2024 8:32am
- Che Guava
  
  Imagine if pest control came to your house and exterminated your family along with the rats, then claimed he was only going after the rats. I guess you’d just accept that. The main thing was getting rid of the rat problem, right? I mean, the family was good and all, but that’s just the pest control business for you.
  
  At the very least, that’s recklessness and culpable homicide, at the worst it’s a flimsy pretext for premeditated murder.
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:13am
  - rouppe
    
    OK, let’s flip that.
    
    Rats invaded your house, getting into all your food stores so that you don’t have enough food to eat. You’re in an apartment building, and the rats, that are nesting in your house, spread throughout the complex.
    
    A decision is taken by the body corporate to eliminate the rats. You know the rats live among you, and that they are nesting and breeding in your apartment, and some of those rats have become pets, so when the exterminators come to your apartment, and you have to move out for a few days, you take some of those pet rats with you and protect them.
    
    The body corporate can still see that there are rats in the building so have to call in the exterminators again and again, and each time you protect some rats so that they can continue to breed.
    
    Ultimately, you become responsible for what’s happening, and the ever increasing actions required by the exterminators result in you and your family falling sick.
    
    At which time you blame everyone else for your illness.
    
    At no time do you admit that your protection of the rats contributed to the problem.
    
    I wouldn’t have sympathy for you either.
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:45am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Excellent. Except, for the moral degenerates here when the exterminators are Jews the rats become the heroes. These are the same types who think the SS weren’t really all that bad, merely misunderstood.
      
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      March 9, 2024 11:29am
    - Che Guava
      
      “Rats invaded your house, getting into all your food stores so that you don’t have enough food to eat. You’re in an apartment building, and the rats, that are nesting in your house, spread throughout the complex.”
      
      While I’ll continue to use the “rat” analogy only insofar as it’s a matter of metaphorical continuity, this sounds an awful lot like the emigration of Jews from Europe and America to Palestine and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel.
      
      You’ve got two distinct groups fighting over occupation of the one building, during the course of which some of one group fall victim to the other’s efforts to bring the other under control.
      
      So what are the respective parts being played on the struggle: who’s the interloper and who’s trying to restore normality here?
      
      That’s really the fundamental dispute at the heart of the last 100 years in Palestine.
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:56pm
      - rouppe
        
        While I’ll continue to use the “rat” analogy only insofar as it’s a matter of metaphorical continuity, this sounds an awful lot like the emigration of Jews from Europe and America to Palestine and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel.
        
        The rats are Hamas. The families protecting the rats are those that voted them in, and the 70% that still support them.
        
        But you knew that
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:36pm
    - miltonF
      
      Sorry, I had to downvote you rouppe. You think the children being blown up by American made Israeli bombs are responsible for supporting Hamas? And therefore deserve to die? How so?
      
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      March 9, 2024 5:49pm
      - rouppe
        
        Don’t be sorry.
        
        No I don’t think that, as the metaphor clearly described.
        
        The parents are responsible. They are the ones that support Hamas. The children they bring into the world are the family affected by the actions of their parents.
        
        However, since you chose you be deliberately inflammatory, do you think the Israeli children raped by Hamas, murdered by Hamas, burned inside locked buildings by Hamas brought those things onto themselves and deserved to die? How so?
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:42pm
  - mandk
    
    Never mind, Che.
    
    Many people who are not Jew-haters, like you clearly are, realise that Hamas is responsible for everything happening in Gaza.
    
    The IDF has shown remarkable restraint against the real would-be genocide perpetrators in the conflict.
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:06am
    - Che Guava
      
      “Jew-hater” is one of the most braindead accusations that could ever be made. I’m called this frequently because this is the fall-back position when no refutation is possible.
      
      Go over my comments and you will find no instance of “hatred” only criticisms in the form of sound arguments backed by facts and rational inference. You will no doubt “hate” much of what I say, but that’s you being the hater, not me.
      
      It must be easy to live in a world where legitimate criticism can just be written off as hate. It means you never have to think or to reflect on your actions, and you can just blame everyone else all the time.
      
      That’s an example of real privilege, and it’s a self-assigned privilege that no true victim would ever be able to give themselves, so it gives the lie to the “history’s greatest victims” narrative.
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:43pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      mandk,
      many who can not properly debate the issues resort to name calling and personal putdowns. The champion of this is Douglas Murray.
      
      Che is putting a point of view. agree or disagree but resorting to name calling and labelling is immature in my view.
      
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      March 9, 2024 4:54pm
- Paulus
  
  It has been said that all the aid, as far as possible, is still controlled by Hamas.
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:18pm
  - MCōs
    
    ‘It has been said’ has it?
    
    I don’t know & clearly you don’t know either, but looking at some of the clips I wonder if anyone is in control
    Wasn’t that why all those people were shot by the Israel military the other day?
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:22pm
- Jake Dee
  
  Would you make a bet that the ongoing Israel operations in Gaza are increasing or decreasing recruitment for Hamas, Hezbollah and The Muslim Brotherhood?
  
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  March 9, 2024 3:01pm
  - MCōs
    
    That’s two people keen to lay bets now!
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:29pm
kowtow

Following on from Chuck’s post . One of Plunkett’s guests mentioned thatone of the venues for Graham Linehan’s ( Fr Ted author) NZ speaking tour has had to be changed due to thug’s veto .Not covered in msm . Why not ?

In today’s Herald there’s a short , buried report that US undersecretary of state Bonny Jenkins’ talk at Vic U was interupted to the point of cancellation by the Hamas Huggers and other extremists .

NZ where the thug’s veto rules .
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March 9, 2024 8:38am
- Che Guava
  
  “…interrupted to the point of cancellation…”
  
  So not actually cancelled, then?
  
  I don’t know what the equivalency is here: protesting someone opposing transgenderism and protesting someone who represents a government guaranteeing the Israelis’ ethnic cleansing of Gaza aren’t at all similar, other than they are both protests.
  
  The former is deranged, the latter is what anyone with a conscience would support.
  
  It just goes to show that the left aren’t wrong about everything, even if they are sometimes right for the wrong reasons (or the less-right reasons).
  
  Your argument seems to be based on the false implicit premise that “if the left are opposed to it, they are wrong to do so,” which is of course a statement about the left, not about the thing they are opposing.
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:03am
  - rouppe
    
    I think the argument was that kowtow is getting fed up with other people dictating to whom he can listen.
    
    Why don’t the shouters and haters bring in their own speaker to hold events that spread their truth rather than preventing others they don’t like from saying anything?
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:36am
    - Che Guava
      
      I think his main point is that someone criticised somebody advancing Jewish interests, and this is unacceptable because he advocates or has adopted those interests.
      
      “Why don’t the shouters and haters bring in their own speaker to hold events that spread their truth rather than preventing others they don’t like from saying anything?”
      
      You mean like the Jews kowtow supports do? From Charles Lindberg, to David Irving, to David Duke and on and on, Jews have a long pedigree of punishing or silencing those who say things they don’t like, as opposed to simply arguing the point with them. It even goes back to Jesus himself.
      
      I’ve argued before both that Jews invented “cancel culture” to prevent criticism and stop people speaking against their interests (some of whom I cite above), and even, for that matter and relevant here, the Jewish “sexologist” Magnus Hirschfeld invented transgenderism.
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:20pm
      - rouppe
        
        What’s wrong with advancing Jewish interests? As opposed to Maori interests, for example.
        
        And it wasn’t a matter of “criticizing”, it was a matter of a gang of opponents stopping the event from happening.
        
        If you think that’s ok, I assume you think it’s ok for a male youth to fracture the face of a 71 year old grandmother and escape conviction.
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:57pm
- Notsofast
  
  This is a man called Paul Thistoll behind this thug’s veto. He is deeply entangled in the cult with no escape route.
  Things will get far worse as they trans more children in New Zealand. It should be stopped immediately. These children are losing everything, their bodies and minds, through the legacy of Ardern and Ayesha Verall, with the insane backing of the Green Party.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:23am
John Loveridge

I see the oily Michael Wood has resurfaced in the swamp as a “negotiation specialist” for E tū.

Not that I ever expected him to get a real job, something that didn’t have a strong element of parasitism.
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March 9, 2024 8:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  On the news two nights, he also infests the Labour Party executive now, Hipkins better watch himself, he is a unionist who hates
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:35pm
  - Close Hen Counters
    
    Sorry G, that was supposed to be an uptick ;(
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Who needs the NZ Film Commission?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/nz-film-commission-approves-800000-public-funding-for-new-jacinda-ardern-documentary-media-insider/7C2PTDNZP5DCBFGGRCOUESZ3HY/
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March 9, 2024 8:40am
- Matt Long
  
  It’s another taxpayer rort that the Nats will keep funding to produce leftist propaganda.
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:46am
  - cmm
    
    National have a form of Stockholm syndrome.
    
    If they were slaves, they’d suggest improvements to the whips their masters beat them with.
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:23am
    - Matt Long
      
      That’s the strategy Dairy NZ, Beef and Lamb and Federated Farmers are using to represent the interests of farmers.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:01am
    - Che Guava
      
      When you consider that “not being divisive” is a high principle, you’ll suffer and allow all manner of things you don’t have to. Division is necessary sometimes.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:21am
      - cmm
        
        Exactly right Che.
        To stand for something you have to stand against something else.
        If you stand for everything then you stand for nothing.
        
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        March 9, 2024 10:52am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Get this through your head, this was announced over a year ago
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:38pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    This has been planned and announced for over a year, the money has already been paid from last years budget
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:36pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Tge funding for this was last budget ffs, are you suggesting they close the whole thing down?
    
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    March 9, 2024 8:03pm
- Paulus
  
  Excuse my French, but Blood Hell we are to pay $800,000 to make a film about the worse Prime Minister and Government in living memory, when we are supposed to be tightening our belts.
  Disgraceful – Honteux (being French) !
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, and it was announced by Hipkins early in his tenure, budget 23
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:40pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Yes indeed, the left love paying homage to their own through the use of other peoples money. It will be a film for overseas consumption, there won’t be many Aotearonians going
  
  Jacinda – My part in Aotearoa’s downfall
  
  Didn’t they do one on Clark a few years ago ?, and of course there are a couple on Chloe, Grant will be next.
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:57am
  - John Loveridge
    
    But nothing on John Key and his path from state House to Premier?
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:49am
    - Ghost
      
      Why would there be? John key did his job, he was pretty unremarkable on the global stage because he did his job, he focused on his job, and he worked his butt off. Jacinda was constantly marketed globally because that is what her puppet masters wanted. The fact she went from from hero to zero shows their plan for her failed because, unlike Clark she was an empty shell that no matter how much they tried to turn into something remained an empty shell.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:02am
    - Matt Long
      
      I gather Mike Williams ONZM won’t be sent on a dirt digging expedition to Australia for the Arden movie.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:04am
      - Paulus
        
        Am told they should check her time in London !
        
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        March 9, 2024 11:20am
  - leoj
    
    Good statement ruined by the use of the “A” word.
    
    It’s bloody well NEW ZEALAND!!!!!!!!
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:06am
- graham
  
  I saw that, and for some reason my mind immediately leapt to “Barbie: The Movie”.
  
  I imagine both would be similar intellectual, hard-hitting heavyweights, and would appeal to the same audiences.
  
  I also read that commission bosses are confident it will be a success “amid questions over its commercial potential.” And that some senior production industry sources wonder whether the project is not better suited for the small screen, rather than as a feature film with the associated higher production costs – and commercial risks.
  
  But hey, it’s only money, right?
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:59am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Imagine those teeth on Imax 3D.
    
    I wonder if the thugs veto will be employed to prevent screenings .
    
    Seems fair.
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:50am
- Ghost
  
  They fund some good things, they fund some crap
  
  Will be fun watching this one bomb.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:53am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Good to see you realise unlike some on here, it’s the film commission, and not the government funding this
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:42pm
    - Paulus
      
      Who funds the Film Commission ?
      
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      March 9, 2024 1:20pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Once they receive their budget they get to choose their events, are you saying you want a Marxist or dictatorial response from the government? FFS I give up, Wd voted that shit out
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:06pm
      - Ghost
        
        Actually it’s funded by 4 ways
        
        These productions are funded by either budget 2023, the lotto funding, the income from the projects they have funded, and from their investments.
        
        It’s also independent of the government, making their own decisions. Let’s not get to a place where the government of the day decides on what productions get funded. Let’s also drop the cancel culture because they fund a project we don’t support. They have funded plenty of projects that have been good for nz.
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:09pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Most of the NZ Film Commission’s funding is from the Government (including Lottery Grants Board).
      
      Our budget is made up of Government funding, Lottery Grants Board funding, income from films, interest and reserves.
      
      https://www.nzfilm.co.nz/about/what-we-do#:~:text=Our%20budget%20is%20made%20up,Reports%20in%20the%20Resource%20Library.<
      
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      March 9, 2024 1:21pm
      - Hugh Jarse
        
        Interestingly, to me at least, the Chair of the film commission is also the chair of TVNZ and was a guest at Jacinda’s wedding. If we had a functioning fourth estate that linkage would be looked at. Sean Plunkett has highlighted the Wedding guest link and Chair of TVNZ, hopefully he will now pick this extra connection up.
        
        It would also be interesting to see when he was appointed to these roles. New Zealand is a small place and it’s hard to always keep a separation but……
        
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        March 9, 2024 2:13pm
      - Ghost
        
        Reported in the herald article.
        
        NZ Film Commission chair Alastair Carruthers – who knows Ardern personally and attended her wedding this summer – recused himself from the decision to fund the movie, Murray said.“NZFC staff provide recommendations and the NZFC board signs off funding at this level,” she said.“All assessors are required to adhere to conflict of interest procedures, and potential conflicts are noted where applicable. In this case, our chair recused himself from the decision-making on this project. All assessors are also required to adhere to our policy on political neutrality.”
        
        Article
        
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        March 9, 2024 2:18pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Alister Carruthers arrived back in NZ in 2020 along with partner chef Peter Gordon.
        
        Carruthers was appointed to NZFC in Oct 2022, and succeeded Kerry Prendergast.
        He was appointed to NZTV in July 2023.
        
        He’s held/holds loads of Governance roles.
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/alastair-carruthers-appointed-chair-new-zealand-film-commission
        
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        March 9, 2024 3:31pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Peter Gordon was too be the flash chef at Cindy’s weeding before covid shafted her
        
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        March 9, 2024 8:08pm
- DimChappie
  
  It will be very sympathetic to NZ’s worst PM. New Zealand Film Commission chief executive Annie Murray: “The documentary explores the rise of violent extremism and online hate in New Zealand, following Jacinda Ardern’s leadership trajectory as an example of how these forces played out through one of the most tumultuous periods in modern history. ”
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:12am
  - Che Guava
    
    “The documentary explores the rise of violent extremism and online hate in New Zealand…”
    
    To the extent these claims reflect reality, they’ll never address why these things and sentiments increase, they’ll only address efforts taken to negate them, efforts taken by the same people who caused the sentiments to begin with.
    
    Here’s the premise: Jacinda, along with her overseas counterparts, is directed to do a thing that leads to people hating her, now let’s see what she does to blame everyone but herself for the worrying developments.”
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:28am
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      By the rise of violent extremism do they mean the one-off but horrific Australians rampage or the tailed by 5 policemen New Lynn stabber or the massive group of people online that are not violent but extremely disgruntled by what is happening to their country by a regime that won’t listen to their views and is intent on foisting radical change on its citizens?
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:48am
      - Che Guava
        
        They’ll talk about “violent ideology” yet probably the most widespread “violent ideology” there is is the belief in the concept of a government to administer a state based on the implicit (sometimes explicit) threat (sometimes use) of violence to maintain order within that state, and sometimes to extend the use of violence to direct it against another state. If we believe in this idea, which most of us do, then we believe in a violent ideology, so talking about the government is, at bottom, to talk about violence.
        
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        March 9, 2024 12:30pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      C,
      Precisely.
      Its like an arsonist torching a skyscraper and then turning up with a damp sponge to put it out.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:58am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I wonder if it will mention the vulgarity and hate from the leftie that told Bridges he would kill his kids and feed them to the pigs
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:44pm
  - miltonF
    
    Funny. They still haven’t been able to figure out why Jacinda Ardern is so hated. They seem to have this narrative where the hate just appeared out of nowhere, all spurred on by racism and sexism and all the isms. When you try to explain why you despise her, suddenly they become deaf and blind and have no memory of her actions.
    
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    March 9, 2024 6:01pm
greenfinger

NZ Film Commission has decided to fund a film on the Princess. That really grates! Why throw any taxpayers money into a documentary about the worst prime minister ever in NZ that has left the country in tatters financially and socially. Almost certain the director of the doco will spin it in positive light for the Princess’s next role at the UN. If there is so called lots of international interest, let these interests fund it. It shouldn’t need a single cent from NZFC. The NZFC Board, CEO and employees who recommended this should be hauled over coal in front of a national inquiry! Someone should make a film about the real truth behind the last government!
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March 9, 2024 8:48am
- John Loveridge
  
  I don’t think even the UN can stomach Ardern. It’s been over a year since her tank ran out of gas and the world hasn’t exactly beaten a path to her door. All she’s had are a couple of pointless honorariums.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:47am
  - Ghost
    
    Helen Clark used our turn up at the UN, won’t be a high ranking position for a New Zealander for a while.
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:55am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Agreed, there never was any prospect of Ardern having a UN role. There is a pretty careful allocation of these roles on a country basis. Clark had one of the major UN roles. For a country as small as NZ it means no other NZer will get a look in for the next 20 years.
      
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      March 9, 2024 10:27am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Is an appointment dependant only on the schedule?
        What about the candidate’s abilities?
        Surely a narcissistic, low intellect, tyrant with a kindergarten level knowledge of the English language wouldn’t be considered.
        
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        March 9, 2024 11:05am
      - Souvlaki
        
        Thank God !
        
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        March 9, 2024 11:34am
  - Burtland
    
    her tank ran out of gas
    – the tank that steamrolled the country
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:39am
kowtow

Talking of te media , the front page of the Herald has a story about $800,000 of our scarce money going towards making a documentary movie about Ardern .

What a waste of money.

Meanwhile buried inside ( among the attacks against Luxon and Co ) is a story about what is essentially the collapse of the school dental service and 3 year waiting lists in Napier and environs.
( Ironically te
media seem to have picked the story up from Facebook , not good old journalism , but keyboarding on the very medium they love to hate)
The excuse is “staff shortages” …….or is it really there’s not enough staff to deal with the huge backlog created by Ardern’s Branch Covidian lockdowns .
Thanks Jacinda.

At least now the reimposed health targets might get some real results , things te media aren’t interested in while they continuously attack a govt genuinely dedicated to fixing the huge mess created by Ardernism ( and her adoring media).
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March 9, 2024 8:50am
John Loveridge

A Stuff journalist: “Given the way the country is heading… Serious journalists are needed more now than ever before.”

Yet again, a witless journalist unwittingly reveals the reason for their own demise.
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March 9, 2024 8:50am
- Swifty
  
  Let’s put that to the test.
  
  Make TVNZ and RNZ subscriber only – if their products are so valued people will stampede to get their sub.
  
  Won’t they?
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:35am
  - leoj
    
    If a media outlet cannot sell advertising to remain viable, that same outlet must fail.
    
    Only when a TV/radio channel, print or online publication is worthy, can they expect extra revenue from the public in the form of subscription or regular purchase.
    
    Market forces baby!
    
    Lefties in particular are stingy. They want govt to prop up their preferred publications even if they run at a loss.
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:15am
- Swifty
  
  Nope, let’s just forcibly raid the pockets of Kiwis instead.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/fund-tvnz-through-60-individual-levy-better-public-media-trust/G37STQ4AUJEVLBKUR4SIZTL6AA/
  
  TVNZ not earning enough to meet its costs? Oh well then let’s just make it so they don’t need to by declaring them commercial-free – and make Kiwis pay for it directly.
  
  Easy peasy!
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:00am
  - John Loveridge
    
    If, rather than taken from general taxation, the $60 was a bill sent out the old-fashioned way, it’d very quickly be filed in the round folder.
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:01pm
Cassandra

There’s a column on BB&H this morning by a farmer who demonstrates that her and husband’s farm is CO2 efficient and that NZ farm animals are insignificant with respect to anthropogenic climate change (in itself still a theory at this stage BTW). The Left of course is blinded by ideology so, like Stuff, believes that the science is settled and cows will drown Tuvalu. Sensible people will take steps to understand mitigation. If CO2 and methane are the problem then there’s nothing we can do but adapt. Shooting ourselves in both feet while China burns a million tons of coal is pretty daft. A bit of real evidence re CO2 would be handy of course but Gaia says no to that. Funny how belief in Hamas prejudice re homosexuals and belief in the evil of sheep go hand in hand. Actually more weird than funny.
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March 9, 2024 9:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Link here (for those who don’t know what BB&H is)
  
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/amy-and-hamish-bielksi-our-research-down-on-the-farm
  
  We need a government that stands up for us as food producers. We feed 40 million people. Article 2 (b) of the Paris Agreement that we signed said, clearly, that no government should take steps that “threaten food production”. Why do we rush to meet some international obligations and ignore others?
  
  We are unique in that we use more greenhouse gas than we emit and we urgently need a government to go into to bat for us in international forums.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:36am
  - Cassandra
    
    There’s nobody on this blog who doesn’t know BB&H! Perhaps mike who seems to have died.
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:11am
NeverMindTheBollocks

That Rupert Murdoch – he’s certainly a great fan of marriage!

And, he’s going to be the sort-of father-in-law of Roman Abramovich.

Wonder if he’s a Chelsea fan?

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2024/03/rupert-murdoch-engaged-again-at-92.html
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March 9, 2024 9:15am
- Che Guava
  
  Proof that being a fool and being a billionaire aren’t mutually exclusive.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:55am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Another gold digger strikes paydirt. 😆
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:06am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Dont think she will need the gold.
      
      Her ex-husband, Alexander Zhukov, is now a billionaire and a British citizen living in London.
      
      She already moves in Elite circles.
      
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      March 9, 2024 5:10pm
artemisia

So a few folk are popping heads above the parapet to criticise the just announced health targets. Hmmm, where were they in the 6 years since health targets were dumped, with actual outcomes getting worse.

One of them was even Ms Verrall Minister of Health, who has among other negatives says the targets are ‘half baked’. Helen Petousis -Harris – of course she says lots more money needed to meet the targets, no mention of efficiencies and removing waste from the system. Auckland Uni’s Mark Elwood – what about all the delays before a diagnosis.

You’d think having targets and reporting against them is a bad thing, listening to them.
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March 9, 2024 9:25am
- septic skeptic
  
  Half baked eh? I wonder how many hours of careful analysis was needed for that conclusion.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:32am
Southern Raider

Lots of people in NZ are being laid off everyday as the economy stalls. Vast majority are on low to medium wages. This all happens in silence

Yet the highly paid media staff are on every top news article for two weeks and counting.
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March 9, 2024 9:29am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Epstein Associate unmasking set to be unsealed.

Jane Doe, No. 107 on the list, contended that she could face physical harm if the list of names is released. Seems she was a victim.
” Epstein and Maxwell pressured her as a teenager to have sex with influential men, including Prince Andrew and lawyer Alan Dershowitz, both of whom have long denied the allegations.”

https://crystalclearnews.com/epstein-associate-unmasking-begins-despite-jane-doe-appeal/?
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March 9, 2024 9:36am
- Paulus
  
  Surprised that Maxwell has not hung herself like Epstein, but she knows and has left full details should this happen with her Lawyers – but of course some paid for Judge will ban everything.
  There are, if it believed, many top names throughout the World who enjoyed the attention of these now some vocal young money seeking, along with their Lawyers, prostitutes.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe Maxwell is not protected by Hillary’s honchos?
    
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    March 9, 2024 11:53am
- xasperated
  
  The Jane Doe and the subject of your quote aren’t the same person according to the article.
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:33pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not picking that up at all, but I can be thick.
    Can you explain please?
    
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    March 9, 2024 3:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Another hit job on Trump by the same author known for it.

The truth is Black Americans are going to the Republicans for a reason. They are “leaving the Plantation” because of people like Candace Owens showing them the truth. Democrats don’t care about Black Americans. They just make false promised for the vote.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/donald-trump-says-his-legal-problems-give-him-street-cred-with-black-voters/ss-BB1jynfZ
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March 9, 2024 10:05am
- imalwaysright
  
  Dems are no friend of the negro.
  Example:
  https://www.newsweek.com/clinton-kkk-byrd-trump-652176
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Candace Owens, Turning Point USA, off the Plantation.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCS2b87SbiM
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:01pm
Yvette

Had mainstream media “journalists” been less-biased (for whatever reason) in their political reporting would they have retained viewers who confirm their continued employment but have now sought more useful journalism from other sources?
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March 9, 2024 10:08am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Yes – 100% Yvette.
  
  By taking minority and activist positions they stopped serving the mass market and lost viewers. Lost viewers = lost advertising = lost revenue = lost jobs.
  
  There would still have been some shift away from MSM due to the innovative and alternative access to news online. But when most KBers say they no longer watch the MSM it shows they lost the demographic most important to them ie the consumers most likely to be engaging with their product.
  
  I rang The Herald and cancelled my sub after the Posie Parker MSM induced mob fury frenzy. Four articles on the Saturday of that event, all anti anti-trans activists… Not one printed the alternative view of a woman’s and children’s rights activist and her four common statements. The MSM are responsible for the violence that ensued and we are just fortunate that there were not people killed. This was the final straw for me and they lost my funding. Something they don’t seem too worried about since they have made no effort to get me back. But lose enough customers and The Herald won’t be financially viable either.
  
  There is a common theme with these activist politicians and journalists. When things go belly-up there is no inwards reflection about how they have contributed to their own demise. No, just looking at external factors to blame. For Jacinda her popularity was due to her amazing leadership but her unpopularity was because the masses hate women. For the news media their demise is purely a result of the rise of the internet. As inaccurate as them reporting last week that inflation was due to supply and demand issues caused by covid. No mention of Grant Robertsons Quantitative Easing increasing money supply while failing to be accountable for spending and spending on unproductive things.
  
  When the news media is distorting the truth to portray the left side of parliament in favourable terms they are not bringing truth to power but lies and propaganda to their audience. So no surprises when this results in a disgusted audience finding other ways to source information.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:20am
- Paulus
  
  If their moderate and balanced views were heard then advertisers would have stayed.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:29am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I don’t know of anyone under 50 who follows the MSM.
  
  When did you last see anyone in public reading a newspaper?
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:32pm
  - Miritu
    
    Plenty around here who still do, despite complaining about it
    
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    March 9, 2024 2:09pm
  - PurplePen
    
    Ministry of Education staff during morning and afternoon teas.
    
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    March 9, 2024 3:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Luxon is losing support because he is not doing what he was voted in to do. That is canning 2 waters and co-governance.
He may scuttle Seymour’s referendum bill. He is sucking up to Maori. See https://issuu.com/esisite/docs/why_luxon_will_scuttle_seymour_s_referendum?fr=xKAE9_zU1NQ
Hope he wakes up soon.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/luxon-s-favourability-plummets-labour-s-support-lowest-since-2021-in-new-poll/ar-BB1jwzpF
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March 9, 2024 10:15am
- Ghost
  
  He’s doing exactly what he campaigned on doing with 3 waters. He’s doing exactly what he campaigned on with cogoverance
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He is woke.
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:04pm
    - Ghost
      
      He’s doing exactly what he campaigned on, show us what he is doing that he didn’t campaign on. Btw, act went down again in the latest poll, but you fail to mention that
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:06pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        All Parties are going down. The thrill is gone.
        
        Read my 10.20 comment.
        
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        March 9, 2024 12:33pm
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  How much damage did he inflict by taking the accomodation payment and then doing a 180 on it?
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:21am
  - Debsta
    
    Yeah it was a dick move, entitled or not, and he should have seen that.
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:09pm
    - pdm
      
      No mention though of Willie Jackson apparently doing exactly the same thing.
      
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      March 9, 2024 12:53pm
      - Debsta
        
        Wee Willie is a shit-stirring nobody. Luxon is PM, and with a hostile msm hunting for any gotcha moment. He should have seen it coming.
        
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        March 9, 2024 4:42pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Nothing
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:55pm
  - Sacha
    
    My question is: why was he selected to ‘name and shame’ when there are other MPs on all sides of the House reputed to be doing the same thing?
    IMO he did a ‘180’ because he couldn’t be bothered arguing with ignorant media harridans – he knows he is never going to win them over.
    Watch while he sees them all crying for their jobs.
    
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    March 9, 2024 1:56pm
  - rouppe
    
    Yeah so this is how I think it happened:
    
    For the last 3 years he received the out of town accommodation allowance, just like 100 of the other 120 out of town mp’s did.
    
    When he became prime Minister, that allowance was bumped, but it would have been a continuation of the same scheme he’d been using since he entered parliament. So I doubt he filled in any form this year “claiming” it.
    
    To avoid the “paying himself” charge, all he would have to do is rent someone else’s apartment, and have them rent his. Then he’s not paying himself, but does it really change anything?
    
    If and when he occupies Premier House, and he rents his apartment to, I dunno, Mark Mitchell, what’s the beat up going to be then?
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:22pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  What bullshit, the coalition agreement says vote too first reading, NZF were vehemently opposed to the principle bill as well, so let’s look here, Nats are down 1 seat in this droll, back to where they were two polls back, Labour are down 2 seats, coalition have increased 2 seats opening up a very large gap
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:53pm
  - Grunter
    
    You repeatedly spout the same response, but that doesn’t make it 100% correct.
    
    The main point most of us have made is that The Nats never campaigned on “we will vote it down no matter what” which is what Luxon and others have said after the election.
    
    And, it is such a dumb position to take before public submissions. Very arrogant to vote against something before it has even been drafted!!
    
    That is the only point some of us have been making. All your other points you’ve made are of course correct.
    
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    March 9, 2024 1:47pm
    - Ghost
      
      Did you even watch the campaign?
      
      Article
      
      In an interview with The Hui host Julian Wilcox, Luxon was challenged to rule out a referendum on the Treaty under his Prime Ministership.
      
      Luxon described the referendum on the Treaty as “divisive” and said he would not support it.
      
      “I think it is divisive and not helpful,” he told Wilcox.
      
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      March 9, 2024 2:15pm
      - Grunter
        
        Yeah I always watch The Hui 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
        
        That’s your argument??!!! You are usually a little bit better than that Ghost
        
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        March 9, 2024 6:47pm
      - Ghost
        
        And yet that link is to an article Newshub, so you don’t actually need to watch the hui, just read the news
        
        Further links
        
        t National’s said it doesn’t support it, potentially setting up some difficult negotiations between David Seymour and Christopher Luxon if the two are in positions of power after the October 14 election.
        
        Spinoff – Luxon describes referendum on Treaty principles as ‘divisive’
        
        From bassettbrashandhide and reposted on the bfd – Seymour has made a referendum one of Act’s bottom lines in coalition discussions. National’s Christopher Luxon has said he doesn’t support the proposal — telling The Hui this week that he thought a referendum was “divisive” and “not helpful” and wasn’t National Party policy
        
        It was obvious before the election. National did not support a referendum
        
        March 2022 Luxon rules out co-governance referendum, Seymour says don’t ‘run away’ from hard issues
        
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        March 9, 2024 7:18pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Listen here ffs, you noted ACT, all three parties voted it till first reading, NZF were the most opposed, wake the hell up, you act voters are pathetic, blame Seymour gor signing ffs.
      
      Ridicule me as long and as hard as you like, down vote me like a cry bsby, but blaming my opinion when ACT signed up to this is utterly pathetic, it’s them that f……up
      
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      March 9, 2024 8:16pm
- Scott
  
  Don’t agree Steve. In the face of the hostile mainstream media he has done very well. The 100 days has canned so much of Labour’s legislative agenda it makes one’s head spin.
  
  3 waters gone, Maori health authority, road to zero, all gone. Roading is being restored, gang patches banned in public, every day something good is being done.
  
  It’s time for us to get behind this government and encourage them further. I’m looking forward to the next 100 days. 😊
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:54pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    See my 10.20 comment.
    “Vague language such as “start work” or “begin work” is used liberally, with these types of actions making up 21 of the action points (more than 40 percent).”
    
    There is no success rate there. It is as bad as Jacinda Ardern saying “we have a working group on that.”
    It is bollocks. “Yes we are starting that” is just a diversion.
    
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    March 9, 2024 3:36pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They can’t bloody change all laws in in a 100 days, theirs is processes, you are intelligent, do you really want a dictatorial regime as we just sacked?
      
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      March 9, 2024 8:23pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Luxon says they have delivered on every one of the policy promises.
Needs a closer look.
“Vague language such as “start work” or “begin work” is used liberally, with these types of actions making up 21 of the action points (more than 40 percent).”

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/assessing-the-quality-of-govt-s-100-day-policy-bonanza/ar-BB1jzhJk
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March 9, 2024 10:20am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Go read the 100 day plan, much of it was work start, you can’t change law over night, even though some have been changed
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:57pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Start is a physical thing, a talk thing is an Ardern thing.
    In 100 days there should be some results – but nothing, only talk.
    
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    March 9, 2024 3:43pm
    - Ghost
      
      Nothing you say, well radio nz would disagree with you, and I’d say even though you are incredibly biased, they are more biased against this government
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/511135/100-day-plan-report-card-15-items-completion-up-for-debate
      
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      March 9, 2024 3:59pm
Its only I

Trump managed to stump up the 10s of millions to cover the cost of his sex habits…not to worry Maggaphiles Lara Trump has just been unanimously voted in as the new RNC co chair…no more money problems for old stinky now!

Trump is scheduled to meet with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán…the Kremlin feeding fake info into Comer piles head, Maga Mikes election campaign being funded by russian money…not to worry folks… cause reasons.
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March 9, 2024 10:41am
- All_on_Red
  
  Interesting to see Putin has said he would prefer Biden to be President
  Probably paid for him
  Just like Hillary used Russian disinformation to try to frame Trump
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:55pm
  - Its only I
    
    Putin’s words don’t match Putin’s actions.
    
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    March 9, 2024 3:15pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Tell that to Ukraine
      
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      March 9, 2024 3:54pm
      - Its only I
        
        As they say in Ukraine, The only thing that flies for longer than Putin’s helicopters is one of Putin’s Tank turrets.
        
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        March 9, 2024 4:36pm
BeaB

So some kind of mania swept Ardern to power and hatred drove her out – according to the taxpayer-funded film hagiographers.
I never bougnt the hype. I didn’t think she would make a good PM but she could speak well and might grow into the job. We footed the enormous bill for PR advice for her to get us through Covid and the mosque tragedy and she did the figurehead and emotive thing well enough to satisfy most people.
But her absurd promises (end child poverty, 100,000 new houses, 1 billion trees), her inability to get things done, her catastrophic economic management, her blind loyalty to incompetents because they were friends, her fudging of the truth, vast areas of ignorance and empty platitudes quickly made her into a joke in this household. And a sick joke at that as we contemplate the wastage of her six years, the debt we are burdened with, the huge problems we are faced with and the heartbreaking knowledge that all those squandered billions could have solved every one of them.
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March 9, 2024 10:49am
- Swifty
  
  Couldn’t have put it better BeaB.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:14am
- leoj
  
  Even those with a single brain cell could have/should have visited Wikipedia to read that, by Ardern’s own admission, her greatest achievement was in becoming the President of International Socialist Youth.
  
  The woman is socialist/communist.
  
  Show me where either has worked in any country or in any time in history.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:22am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I actually saw that speech in Hungary in 2009.
    That is 15 years ago.
    I thought back then – that if this crazy commie ever gets hold of the reins of power, we are doomed!
    The Youtube machine and the google machine have been pretty well scrubbed, but:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig
    
    Tell me what she said other than “Comrade”
    Word soup waffle 15 years ago.
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:00pm
- Paulus
  
  You really mean that she could open her mouth wide and spew crap which her avid supporters loved.
  
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  March 9, 2024 11:31am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She spoke word soup waffle.
  Listen to her for 3 minutes and then you are thinking “what the hell did she say?”
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:07pm
  - greybeard
    
    Exactly. She apparently had a reputation for being “a great communicator”.
    Well I for one found her quite the opposite: as you say, Steve, lots of word soup waffle, but add to that the fact that in many cases she knew little of the subject being discussed and her constant hand movements were a distraction.
    I think it was probably she herself who came up with “the great communicator” description.
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:39pm
    - kowtow
      
      I never got that”great communicator” thing either .Or should I say communicador .
      
      Her diction was dreadful which by itself rules her out as a great .
      Similarly her rhetoric was simplistic to the point of infantile , there was no intellectual depth , nothing original , it was just catchy ( to morons) soundbites .
      And it was show offy ; with all that virtue signalling Maori to kick things off .Along with her stage props that for anyone else would have her accused of “cultural appropriation”.
      
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      March 9, 2024 2:13pm
      - artemisia
        
        Not to worry kowtow, no word soup and none of those knowledge gaps will be in the movie. The hijab is another matter.
        
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        March 9, 2024 4:45pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      To me, she is like the C130 Hercules warming up at Whenuapai (I live within 5km)
      The droning just goes on and on without stopping – until they finally fuck off.
      At take off they drone slower and louder if fully loaded if you know what I mean.
      
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      March 9, 2024 4:21pm
- Yvette
  
  BeaB, your comment “We footed the enormous bill for PR advice for her …” through to “… we are faced with and the heartbreaking knowledge that all those squandered billions could have solved every one of them” is a really great synopsis for a feature film, if the script were honestly treated as “Yep, it is what it is” (could be closing credits quote).
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:11pm
Tomtoddy

One of the Karen’s affected by the loss of credibility and consequently loss of job wrote…..
“Today’s announcement that after 22 years of powerful storytelling and leading current affairs @sundaytvnz which Miriama hosts, is to be axed along with longstanding investigative show @fairgonz Tonight and Midday. It’s absolutely awful.”

So telling stories is ‘journalism’??? It was their voyage into wokism that was mostly their downfall but they will never admit such.
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March 9, 2024 10:49am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Comic Part 10.
“The comic circulating in schools is fueling the grievance fires, ensuring their remain red hot for years to come.”

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/analysis-treaty-of-waitangi-comic-for-high-school-students-has-been-quietly-brainwashing-away-since-2018-part-11/

“The Government is set to keep co-governance of fresh water: rivers, lakes,
and rules for agricultural run off will be subject to ‘te Mana o te Wai'”
Peter Williams.
https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/The-Nats-are-locking-in-cogovernance-of-fresh-water.pdf
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March 9, 2024 10:50am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I just skipped through a short version of Biden’s SOTU.
All Joe was doing was gaslighting Trump supporters.
No Bidenomics. Carefully avoided. The drugs were wearing off at the end.
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March 9, 2024 11:01am
- RichardX
  
  I just skipped through a short version of Biden’s SOTU.
  
  What Otto means is “I watched a carefully edited version of the speech that reinforced my prejudices and made me angry rather than informed as that is my preferred state”
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:15pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    If you want to listen to two hours of Biden’s gaslighting, don’t let me stop you.
    It is State of the Union, not the State of Donald Trump.
    US Economy is great right?
    
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    March 9, 2024 12:36pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    See what I mean Mods?
    Its just creepy the way this guy ONLY posts comments attacking Steve O
    
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    March 9, 2024 7:38pm
- Inandout
  
  SO, my sister worked in a rest home and she said Biden must have been on some pretty powerfull stimulents to tide him over that amount of time. Possibly mega vitamins but more likely medication. If the latter then it would be like racing an old motor on racing fuel, permanent damage would ensue.
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:26pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Democrats know he is a stuffed unit, but they will do anything to stop Trump – even using a sick man no matter his age. I find it disgusting.
    Short of assassination Trump will piss in, but his elimination would not be a surprise.
    Politics is nasty, but in my 72 years I never thought the left would get to this.
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:39pm
Swifty

Joseph Parker is fighting this morning:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350206623/live-joseph-parker-vs-zhilei-zhang-heavyweight-fight-riyadh

I think the odds are against Parker. I’ll be surprised, pleasantly surprised, if he wins this.
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March 9, 2024 11:04am
- Swifty
  
  Well, well, well.
  
  A great effort from Parker – very hard to win on the scorecards when you’ve been floored twice.
  
  Great stuff – but now he’s got to do it all again.
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:02pm
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t know how much the Parker machine picked up from that fight, but as I recall it was $8mil last time so the incentive is there to get back in the gym
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:45pm
    - Swifty
      
      I think I saw $10 million mentioned.
      
      Sounds a lot, but not when you realise all the costs that have to come out of that.
      
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      March 9, 2024 5:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If you email Luxon about anything, you get this:

“On behalf of the Prime Minister of New Zealand, Rt Hon Christopher Luxon, thank you for your email.

Due to high volume of emails to this address, we may not be able to send you a personal reply in a timely manner.

If you have:
• correspondence relating to the Prime Minister’s portfolios
• an invitation for the Prime Minister
• an Official Information Act request
• a question about any House business relating to the Prime Minister’s portfolios
• or any other matters in relation to the Prime Minister’s portfolios, please email: c.luxon@ministers.govt.nz

If you wish to contact the Botany electorate office regarding a constituent issue, please email botany@parliament.govt.nz or call 09 532 8390.

Thank you once again for taking the time to write; it is very much appreciated.

Kind regards,

Office of the Prime Minister
MP for Botany
Minister for National Security and intelligence
Minister Responsible for Ministerial Services”
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March 9, 2024 11:04am
- Inandout
  
  SO, the adults are now in charge.
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:28pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Just for you Steve- and for [Mod – leave the personal abuse out of it]
  ‘Former Rep. Liz Cheney’s January 6 Committee suppressed evidence that President Donald Trump pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the nation’s capital, a previously hidden transcript obtained by The Federalist shows.’
  ‘A January 6 committee staffer asked Ornato, “When it comes to the National Guard statement about having 10,000 troops or any other number of troops, do you recall any discussion prior to the 6th about whether and how many National Guard troops to deploy on January 6th?”
  
  Ornato surprised the committee by noting he did recall a conversation between Meadows and Bowser: “He was on the phone with her and wanted to make sure she had everything that she needed,” Ornato told investigators.
  
  Ornato said White House concerns about January 6 were related to fears that left-wing groups would clash with Trump protesters and that no one in the White House anticipated a riot at the Capitol. Antifa and other left-wing groups were planning protests for the same day. Left-wing groups had been involved in violent assaults on Trump supporters following public protests.
  
  Meadows “wanted to know if she need any more guardsmen,” Ornato testified. “And I remember the number 10,000 coming up of, you know, ‘The president wants to make sure that you have enough.’ You know, ‘He is willing to ask for 10,000.’ I remember that number. Now that you said it, it reminded me of it. And that she was all set. She had, I think it was like 350 or so for intersection control, and those types of things not in the law enforcement capacity at the time.”
  
  Ornato was correct. Bowser declined the offer, asking only for a few hundred National Guard and requiring them to serve in a very limited capacity.’
  https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/08/exclusive-liz-cheney-january-6-committee-suppressed-exonerating-evidence-of-trumps-push-for-national-guard/
  
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  March 9, 2024 12:40pm
  - RichardX
    
    Still leaping to defend Otto’s honour and still missing by that much.
    
    You appear to have forgotten the specific elements of Otto’s claim even though he has repeated it many many times.
    
    The key points to Otto’s claim are;
    Trump’s request was weeks before Jan 6.
    There were 2 requests, one for 20 or 22 thousand followed by a request for 10,000 when the 1st request was refused.
    Pelosi refused so the troops were not deployed.
    
    Below are just 2 of his posts.
    
    Steve Otto(North Shore)
    What is never reported is the infiltration of the Trump rally was on social media 2 weeks before Jan 6th. Pelosi knew, Trump knew. Trump wanted 22,000 National Guard Troops for security. Pelosi refused. 10,000 Troops and she still refused.
    ……
    
    AUGUST 25, 2023 10:42AM
    
    Steve Otto(North Shore)
    Thing is the word was out on social media to infiltrate the peaceful Trump Rally.
    Trump asked for National Guard help twice (20,000 then 10,000)
    Pelosi refused. She was even allowing her daughter to set up filming the yet to happen riot. Pelosi knew it was going to happen as it did.
    There is your snake in the grass – Pelosi.
    …..
    
    MARCH 1, 2024 12:04PM
    
    You’ll have to be more specific in how the Federalist article supports Otto’s claims.
    
    The only commonality between the article and Otto’s claims are 10,000 troops but that is not a new number.
    
    Even former acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller testified to the Jan 6 committee that Trump had, in a January 5 phone call, briefly and informally floated the idea of having 10,000 troops present on January 6 but did not issue any directive to that effect. Miller said, “I interpreted it as a bit of presidential banter or President Trump banter that you all are familiar with, and in no way, shape, or form did I interpret that as an order or direction.”
    
    The specific quote in the article refers to an overheard conversation between Chief of Staff Meadows and Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser
    
    Meadows “wanted to know if she need any more guardsmen,” Ornato testified. “And I remember the number 10,000 coming up of, you know, ‘The president wants to make sure that you have enough.’ You know, ‘He is willing to ask for 10,000.’
    
    So, not an actual request for 10,000 troops and nothing about Pelosi.
    
    The article goes on to talk about the slow response on the day of Jan 6 but all that is outside of Otto’s claim as well.
    
    You’ll have to try again, but I appreciate the effort.
    
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    March 9, 2024 3:48pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Wriggle wriggle wriggle
      YOUR claim was that Trump didnt ask for the National Guard and you are wrong
      A witness gave testimony UNDER OATH to a Congressional Hearing
      Suck it up.
      
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      March 9, 2024 7:37pm
      - RichardX
        
        I have made no claim.
        
        I have asked for evidence to support Otto’s claims.
        
        You have not provided it.
        
        Show me the sworn testimony that Trump made 2 requests for troops in the weeks before Jan 6.
        
        Show me the evidence that Pelosi refused the requests.
        
        You are still arguing for some thing different.
        Call that wriggling if you want but that is an excuse for your failure.
        
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        March 9, 2024 9:06pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Trump first asked for 20,000 National Guard Troops but was denied.
    We know dam well why Pelosi did this – she knew. It was on social media mid December 2020. Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, BLM, Antifa, and many others were responsible, yet Trump was blamed.
    A dirty, dirty Nancy doing.
    
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    March 9, 2024 4:46pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Pelosi was in charge
      They have tried to cover it up and more will come out
      
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      March 9, 2024 8:25pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB31oRH91Lg
Trump Trolls SOTU.
President Trump knows a thing ot two about doing memes.
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March 9, 2024 1:01pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kL1Pg4uS8g
Woke Influencer Accidentally Creates EPIC Trump Campaign Ad! 😂🇺🇸.
She did not see that coming! [It all sounds great, except for the bit about flying cars.]
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March 9, 2024 1:02pm
- Inandout
  
  sun, that guy speaks sense, but probably doesn’t realise it.
  
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  March 9, 2024 1:27pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Whoooossshhhh!!!!!!
    
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    March 9, 2024 5:48pm
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes exactly.
    
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    March 9, 2024 7:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

More on that musher and the moose he had to kill in the Iditarod Race.
Dallas Seavey gutted it and reported it at the next stop. Why let good meat go to waste – this is Alaska! The quicker the gutting is done the better the meat will be from the carcass cooling.
A dog was injured and flown to a vet in Anchorage.

https://apnews.com/article/iditarod-alaska-seavey-kills-moose-sled-dog-13c5e674d5062375bb0881d3ccb5e919?
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March 9, 2024 2:38pm
Ghost

Awwww, poor you

A young man who filmed himself and an underage girl having sex and then posted it on Snapchat is worried about being humiliated and embarrassed if his name is published.

The High Court has today dismissed his appeal against an earlier decision by the District Court to deny permanent name suppression.

But NZME still cannot name him as his lawyer has indicated he plans to lodge a further appeal.
Article

So you got a 15 year old so drunk she didn’t know what was going on, had sex with her, posted it online. 11 months home detention for what actually sounds like rape.

Creep

Following the link to the older article

In the video the man put his belt around the victim’s neck and told her to say “f*** the Wallabies” repeatedly, having just watched a rugby match between the Australian team and the All Blacks.

Article
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March 9, 2024 3:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It is rape and abuse of a minor. So what started this off?
  
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  March 9, 2024 5:54pm
Inthe09

I see the self-indulgent media darlings are still continuing to make the news all about themselves. Has there ever been a group of people more totally out of touch with society?

Here’s a newsflash for them – we’re not interested and we couldn’t be happier you’re finally feeling reality bite.
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March 9, 2024 3:32pm
All_on_Red

The US has started bombing Gaza
‘ At least five people were killed and 10 others injured when airdropped aid packages fell on them in the Al Shati camp west of Gaza City, according to a journalist on the scene.’

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/08/middleeast/gaza-airdropped-aid-deaths-intl/index.html
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March 9, 2024 4:01pm
- AitchW
  
  Nothing new there. My uncle was liberated from a Japanese POW camp toward the end of WW2. Shortly after liberation he was struck and seriously injured by a case of Hershey bars parachuted by the USAF as part of a supply drop. Fortunately he recovered from the physical trauma and lived a happy life till he popped his clogs late last century.
  
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  March 9, 2024 6:04pm
Southern Raider

Looks like the Hurricane women’s team has doubled down and repeated their redneck haka again after being warned by Hurricanes management

This is what happens today. You reward bad behaviour and ask people to not doing something again

Time to teach them a lesson. Pull the whole team from next weeks game and fine them.

I also hope sponsors start cancelling payments
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March 9, 2024 7:05pm
- Philview
  
  The fans should boycott all the Hurricanes teams to make a point.
  
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  March 9, 2024 7:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    What fans?
    
    There was hardly anyone at the game.
    
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    March 9, 2024 8:43pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I don’t think so. Address the problem, which is the women’s team, not any other ‘canes team.
    
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    March 9, 2024 10:15pm
- surfing
  
  Management look like clowns too. No idea.
  
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  March 9, 2024 10:35pm
kevn

SR… Must think they are a bigger deal than the game.
‘Sending a strong message to the government’…. lol
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March 9, 2024 7:29pm
Ghost

Nz rose up, we voted the left out, tough shit ladies, your team lost, something you are use to

Hurricanes Poua double down on controversial haka, claim tense win

The Hurricanes Poua have doubled down on their controversial haka, sending yet more strong words towards the government before claiming a tense Super Rugby Aupiki win on Saturday.

For all the fallout of last week’s season-opener against the Chiefs in Hamilton, where the Poua performed a haka that contained the words “karetao o te Kāwana kakiwhero” which translates in English to “puppets of this redneck government”, the team stepped it up further against Matatū at Sky Stadium.

In delivering their Poua Ki Runga haka, they used a phrase, translated to English, which said: “New Zealand rise up! Here is Hurutearangi… governments are temporary, the Treaty will endure. Poua will endure.”
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March 9, 2024 7:31pm
- Ghost
  
  Winston replies
  
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  March 9, 2024 7:33pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Those women are the best of this country. They will not be stared down by the redneck government.
  
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  March 9, 2024 8:24pm
  - Ghost
    
    God help the country if these woman were the best of it. But lucky you are just deluded and they are from the best of this country
    
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    March 9, 2024 8:42pm
  - Swifty
    
    That they would risk their club losing sponsors or gate sales and threaten the club’s viability by using their positions to advance their personal and political viewpoints is very poor behaviour in my view.
    
    The arrogance is breathtaking.
    
    These women are perfectly entitled to make their positions known in their private capacity and good on them, but not while representing their club. No-one is oppressing anyone by insisting on adherence to basic codes of conduct when involved in a club’s activities. Clubs that the women have freely and voluntarily joined.
    
    It says a lot about people who are unable or unwilling to see the distinction.
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:41pm
  - Swifty
    
    Who do you hate more Mutton?
    
    Successful and wealthy white men like Luxon or Maori who have chosen the right of politics like Peters, Jones, McKee, Bridges etc?
    
    I suspect I know, but I’d love to hear it from you.
    
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    March 9, 2024 9:45pm
- AitchW
  
  I distinctly remember the rugby heads of NZ howling that rugby and politics don’t mix back when apartheid South Africa was being ostracised.
  Here are they now? Or is it different when wahine Maori do it?
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:48pm
Swifty

I honestly didn’t realise Chloe Swarbrick was so stupid.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/hurricanes-poua-again-calls-out-government-with-haka/W6SHLPNJSFEN5JASHLALAZRJ7E/
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March 9, 2024 7:32pm
- Rumblestrip
  
  Not to mention hypocritical and very arrogant.
  
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  March 9, 2024 9:34pm
Gravelroad

If these women want to play rugby, good luck to them – play rugby.
If they want to be conceited political activists they should turn their attention to joining a political party and getting elected.
There is plenty of talking to be done at Parliament -along with all the others there with an entrenched personal opinion.
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March 9, 2024 8:39pm
surfing

I’d be happy for the Hurricanes women’s team to be disbanded and the players behind this to be banned for life.

Even if the Haka were aimed at labour…. that is not the point.
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