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Yvette

Woman’s possible 5-year exclusion from real estate for protest against Māori values program ‘cultural wokeness’ – Winston Peters

Having refused to take the Te Kākano course, Dickson was facing a five-year licence cancellation by the Real Estate Authority (REA).

The REA noted that “in order to keep their license, licensees must meet continuing education requirements” as set out by the Real Estate Agents Act 2008.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/02/woman-s-possible-5-year-exclusion-from-real-estate-for-protest-against-m-ori-values-program-cultural-wokeness-winston-peters.html

As it is now 2024, in the years since the Real Estate Agents Act 2008, how many courses have been run, which are compulsory continuing education requirements, and what have they been on?

For those who want the information, Te Kākano course is here –
https://www.wananga.ac.nz/media/2gqlvpwe/te-kakano-update-v3.pdf

And while understandably there is an offence in discriminating against people on grounds of race or “religious world view” is there not an equal offence of raising a race above all others?
Aryanism is an ideology of racial supremacy which views the supposed ~~Aryan~~ Maori race as a distinct and superior racial group which is entitled to rule the rest of humanity.

And how far can such Aryanism be based on the kindergarten sand-pit law of the jungle that “we were here first”? Or that we have greater affinity with the sand-pit than you do.

The Pharmacy Council document equivalent to Real Estate’s Te Kākano course is here –
https://pharmacycouncil.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Pharmacy-Council-Charter-Document-2023-Website.pdf
See if you feel the Farce the next time you purchase an item from a Chemist
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February 24, 2024 8:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Makes me wonder what other businesses have to comply with this racist bullshit?
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:34am
  - Grunter
    
    Most large corporates are into this crap. All Govt Depts do it daily. Most schools and Unis have daily Māori pray sessions. It is everywhere.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:39am
    - David Garrett
      
      Grunter: It’s not only everywhere but it is persuasive – and not just for those directly exposed to it. I had a mate – oldest friend outside of school. He used to be very scathing of “the cuzzie bros” until he took up with a woman who works in some capacity with the Auckland Council.
      
      Every meeting my ex friend’s girlfriend takes part in has to begin and end with a karakia, and everyone – including the very white D – has to recite their whakapapa.
      
      A year or two of being exposed to that, and my “fuck the cuzzie bros” ex friend is now, in his words – “very support of D’s Maori language journey”
      
      (Oh and he’s an ex friend because D utterly changed him to a degree I would never have thought possible. Fat evil bitch that she is).
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:11pm
    - slightlyrighty
      
      Don’t think that all Maori are on board….some think it’s bloody ridiculous with karakia this and powhiri that.
      
      Case in point…
      
      https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFhBpyvt/
      
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      February 24, 2024 2:04pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yes it is fucking ridiculous.
        It is a printer, you know a colonial white man’s printer.
        Cost for the printer powhiri? Let’s guess at $25,000.
        Who paid? You fucking did! Dam right that crowd didn’t!!!!
        
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        February 25, 2024 3:37pm
    - pdm
      
      Hell Grunter my 4 years at High School (1960/1963) included The Lord’s Prayer and singing God Save The Queen most school days.
      
      That did not do me any harm and BTW each time was at Assembly of the whole school – about 500 pupils.
      
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      February 24, 2024 3:34pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Primary school I went to had an outside assembly.
        Raining too hard it was dismissed. We had no hall.
        Oh, did I mention we had bare feet and pants made from hemp sugar bags?
        
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        February 25, 2024 3:40pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    This is the beginning of the introduction of The Brown Tick.
    Same as the Rainbow Tick where you pretend to agree with some tripe and pay a lot of money so that the Tickers don’t have your business ruined.
    It used to be called blackmail and I’m pretty sure it used to be a crime.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:23am
    - Dave
      
      Blackmail is when you pay someone not to reveal your own shameful or illegal action.
      
      This is more like extortion, demanding money with menaces. ‘Nice career you’ve got there. A shame if something happened to it.’
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:51pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        It is all part of the Coup = spreading the propaganda.
        See http://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi
        Last sentence is exactly that. Janet Dickson complies or is out for 5 years. What happens after 5 years? Still have to do the course? Dam bloody right if this Coup continues.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:14pm
      - Matt Long
        
        See also halal certification for extortion.
        “That’s a nice ham you got there, it’d be a shame if someone added s and e to it.”
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:39pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Thanks Dave, you are correct.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:59pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      I am in full support of using te reo. I use words like:
      mahi = pretend work
      koha = bribes
      mana = bloated ego
      tamariki = uncontrollable brats
      whanau = annoying busybody relatives
      
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      February 24, 2024 2:50pm
      - Sacha
        
        I was about 10 when I learnt that ‘puku’ was a Maori word, lol.
        
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        February 24, 2024 7:02pm
      - John Loveridge
        
        Sorry Sacha, accidental fat-fingered downtick.
        
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        February 24, 2024 10:29pm
  - Paulus
    
    Far more Business and Government Department and many many others than we ever realised.
    I wonder where we can get a list ?
    
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    February 24, 2024 1:25pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Ask and ye shall receive.
      
      All central Govt agencies are here – https://www.govt.nz/organisations/
      
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      February 24, 2024 5:13pm
  - Keith White
    
    Medicine.
    
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    February 24, 2024 6:41pm
- Muttonbird
  
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  Tight race between Winston, Seymour and Shane Cigareti for the title of most useless Māori.
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Have you taken over from Mike?
    
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    February 24, 2024 11:24am
  - RightNow
    
    How racist
    
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    February 24, 2024 11:50am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Willie would be the most useless Māori that walked the earth, especially as he has virtually no Māori blood
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:04pm
    - imalwaysright
      
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      Leave Wealthy Willie alone. He really cares about all those poor maoris that he pretends to represent!
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:17pm
      - igm
        
        What about the stupid maoris who think he represents them?
        He is nothing but an ethnic leech.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:53pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yeah but he feels Maori, so he is.
      
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      February 24, 2024 2:20pm
  - Grunter
    
    Muttonbird
    And with that one comment you have exposed yourself as a racist. That is one big reason why free speech works so wonderfully well. It allows people like you to express what you are thinking!
    
    So now we all know.
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:44pm
- Chris R
  
  To apply for a course in an Australian university a “First Nations People” examination is compulsory. There does not seem to be any hard evidence behind the questions asked…just a lot of speculative spooky garbage. An utter waste of time.
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:48am
- LB
  
  Refuse to attend compulsory te reo course = sanctioned.
  Refuse to get jab = sanctioned.
  Refuse to work when on benefits = don’t sanction them that would be unethical and draconian!
  
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  February 24, 2024 5:18pm
Chuck Bird

Will she apologise on Wednesday?

Ginny Andersen’s attack on Mark Mitchell does Chris Hipkins no favours – Claire Trevett

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/ginny-andersens-attack-on-mark-mitchell-does-hipkins-no-favours-claire-trevett/SLLCSS6CPFB6VICFERNGBGZ5V4/
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February 24, 2024 8:10am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I thought she sent Mitchell a text. That will be all the chicken arsed shit will do.
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:18am
  - pdm
    
    If she fronts next Wednesday and I doubt she will Hosking will line her up and put her through the mincer.
    
    However, my bet is McAnulty will take over the segment from now on and Virginia Anderson will not sully it with her presence ever again.
    
    The nasties on the left never ever do the hard yards.
    
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    February 24, 2024 8:38am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      If she does not show it will be a bad look for Hipkins. Say McAnulty shows he will be put on the spot about her and Hipkins.
      
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      February 24, 2024 8:44am
      - pdm
        
        Part of the plan don’t you think Chuck.
        
        Except Ginny is now toast so McAnulty will have to find a new Deputy, Barbara Edmunds maybe.
        
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        February 24, 2024 8:47am
      - Ghost
        
        Maybe to the political tragic, but I very much doubt the public care.
        
        Cost of living, crime, health, that is what people care about.
        
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        February 24, 2024 9:15am
      - pdm
        
        Ghostie I would class mrspdm as `a member of the public’ as you describe.
        
        She is appalled not only at what Ginny said but also the fact that she has not had the guts to face Mitchell and publicly apologise.
        
        mrspdm is an advocate for good manners and Ginny shows none.
        
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        February 24, 2024 9:47am
      - Ghost
        
        In the past few days I’ve not heard anyone except on kiwiblog mention this. The rise in petrol prices, the rise in grocery cost, yes. No one cares about her, it’s a Wellington issue.
        
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        February 24, 2024 9:55am
      - Che Guava
        
        “Maybe to the political tragic, but I very much doubt the public care.
        
        Cost of living, crime, health, that is what people care about.”
        
        Exactly. This is like a disagreement between school girls. Who cares?
        
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        February 24, 2024 10:19am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        pdm,
        
        Good Manners is a documentary on British Estates old chap.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:27pm
    - Clyde
      
      The pressure will be being put on her by the Liemore Pardy to front up and do a big apology. The reason being is that she is embedded in Wn and is viewed by the Pardy as “core left wing”. The risk in doing so will be that she will be further exposed as a nasty cow, but of course that is part of being “core left wing”.
      
      Of equal importance is just why TVNZ One News (otherwise known as the public office of the Liemore Pardy) did not cover this major story on the day.
      
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      February 24, 2024 9:33am
      - rouppe
        
        The pressure will be being put on her by the Liemore Pardy to front up and do a big apology.
        
        When have they ever done that? Anyone remember an apology for the sexual assaults at a Labour Party youth camp? An apology for the slum conditions overseas volunteers for the Labour Party were made to live in? The apology made to Charlotte Bellis was wrung out of Hipkins.
        
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        February 24, 2024 10:03am
      - Jade Warrior
        
        Clyde – I suspect that one major reason is because this all happened on Mike Hosking’s radio show and TVNZ did not want to give him any more promotion. After all, TVNZ would much rather that people watch its own breakfast show, not listen to Mike Hosking.
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:51pm
  - Vinicius
    
    Guess I’m old fashioned when it comes to fessing up and saying sorry. The only meaningful apology is when you meet someone face-to-face and talk to the other person directly. Not text messages, phone calls, or Zoom calls etc.
    
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    February 24, 2024 8:56am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Texting is the coward’s way.
      When I screw up I own it. Even on this blog it has happened and I apologise.
      
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      February 24, 2024 9:37am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Don’t worry, the messaging has been hugely damaging to her Labour and Hipkins with his weak response again, this is her second strike not counting the corruption with paying for her office
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:21pm
    - igm
      
      Are you counting her and her family flouting the illegal lock down.
      She is no better than the obese Wiles.
      
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      February 24, 2024 2:59pm
- Paulus
  
  She is Labour and above apologising – learnt from Ardern and Robertson.
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:46am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She is tied to rotten unions also, don’t forget they are fascist, and do not apologise for anything.
    
    The kick in the arse is Shearer speaking out against her
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:23pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Paywalled.
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:52am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Indeed…
    
    But they’ve got David Shearer’s view on the matter on full view:
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-labour-leader-david-shearer-says-ginny-andersens-claims-about-mark-mitchell-divorced-from-reality/B6DPEPL555F6LDIXJGTZXJRG7Y/
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:32am
    - Swifty
      
      Shearer was far too sensible for the Labour Party.
      
      Too normal.
      
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      February 24, 2024 11:28am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Mitchell also did work for Shearer in the Sudan
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:24pm
      - Swifty
        
        Maybe Andersen should be posted there.
        
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        February 24, 2024 1:32pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Swifty, If Andersen is posted there she can clean the ablutions seeing she likes to dish out shit!
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:31pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Ginny gets schooled by former Labour leader.
      
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      February 24, 2024 5:17pm
- rouppe
  
  She can’t avoid mentioning it. Anything she says will be half arsed and conditioned with a “but”
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:57am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hosking has stated she will be on on Wednesday
  
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  February 24, 2024 12:05pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What’s the bet there will be a breakdown in communications?
    Who is running the book?
    
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    February 24, 2024 2:32pm
- Sacha
  
  A text message is not an apology.
  She should give it in the same manner as she delivered the insults.
  And then be sacked.
  
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  February 24, 2024 7:05pm
- Scooter
  
  All she had to do was to apologise in person to Mark and even to go on Mike’s show the next day and apologise on air. Then that would be the end of it and she might even get some kudos for fronting up (not really in the Labour party DNA though). Now her reputation as a big mouth bully is sealed.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Well, things are really getting hot regarding Janet Dickson. The wokeness is being exposed for what it is – plain everyday crap!
The REA doesn’t want to talk about is, saying “this matter may be the subject of proceedings” Uma rapeti!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/peters-blows-fuse-at-cultural-wokeness-over-woman-s-possible-exclusion-from-job-for-protesting-m%C4%81ori-values-course/ar-BB1iK8zZ
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February 24, 2024 8:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Here is the dumb thing. Those coming into Real Estate go not have to do the course.
  Janet Dickson with 30 years experience does have to complete it.
  Fight the woke bastards!
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    do not*
    Another missed typo.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:49am
    - David Garrett
      
      I feel for you brother…
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:27pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yeah it pisses me off. I see my comment as an image, not the text, even proof reading after posting while I can still edit – the image is still in my head – somewhere.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:34pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Originally she didn’t ‘protest’. She simply declined to attend a course because she felt it irrelevant to her professional role. Now she is protesting, and more power to her
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:18am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    And it is irrelevant to her role.
    
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    February 24, 2024 8:20am
  - pdm
    
    She is a Harcourts Agent.
    
    Bombard your local Harcourts office with support for her and the stand she is taking for every working New Zealander.
    
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    February 24, 2024 8:23am
    - Inandout
      
      pdm, she works in association with Harcourts but the worrying aspect of this company is that some other agents have advised her to ‘get with it’ and take the course. There are many other companies to choose from.
      
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      February 24, 2024 9:08am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        The other agents are the problem. They just bend over and get shafted.
        
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        February 24, 2024 9:50am
      - Bridgenag
        
        Hope you all contribute to her fighting fund
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:04pm
    - oldpark
      
      @pdm 8.23 am
      
      Wonder who are the faceless control freak people in Real Estate Institute and Harcourts who have the gall to put the boot into one of their Real Estate Contractors . I know Ardern has left that type of legacy as she cut and run .Maybe they didn’t get the meme .
      Would help all of us if they got the same exposure as Janet Dickson .
      
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      February 24, 2024 9:21am
      - pdm
        
        OP – I looked for the Harcourts Head Honcho’s email address but could not find one.
        
        I do know a couple of local (Hastings and CHB) Agents so will email them over the weekend.
        
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        February 24, 2024 9:52am
      - peterwn
        
        As far as I know, Harcourts has no view on this matter. It is only the REA that needs to be dealt with.
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:13pm
      - pdm
        
        She said Harcourts told her she would lose her Agency with them if she did not do the indoctrination.
        
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        February 24, 2024 3:46pm
      - Ghost
        
        Only natural she would lose it because if the rea take her license off her for 5 years they have no option, she can’t work for them
        
        You are better off email REA’s minister.
        
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        February 24, 2024 3:48pm
    - PurplePen
      
      bryan.thomson@harcourts.net
      He’s the managing director.
      Email address is on
      https://www.naiglobal.com/members/team/nai-harcourts-newmarket/
      
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      February 24, 2024 5:56pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    No, she claimed on the radio to Heather Duplicity-Allan it was because she’d be force to acknowledge Māori gods and that went against her spirituality.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:08am
    - Swifty
      
      Oh my god!
      
      That sounds like genocide to me!
      
      She must be a racist, Maori-hating Nazi.
      
      Am I getting the hang of it Muttonbird?
      
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      February 24, 2024 11:26am
      - ISeeRed
        
        Maorivolk über alles.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:56pm
    - Homas
      
      I must say, you’re quite the talent with the whole name japery thing.
      
      What can you do with our erstwhile Minister of Justice – you know, the one who didn’t stick around to say “kia ora car-tower”?
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:19pm
    - Dave
      
      “Heather Duplicity-Allen”???
      
      I’m as fond of mocking someone’s name as the next person, but suggesting a reporter engages in deliberate deception (as distinct from sometimes getting facts wrong, and I don’t follow HduP enough to have an opinion on the matter) is a step too far, unless you have evidence to support this apparent calumny.
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:22pm
- Rich Prick
  
  It’s funny how it is rather white people imposing all of the Maori crap on the rest of us. Memo to them: Shove it up your arses, you are doing Maori no favours.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:09am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I call them ‘milky bars.’
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:57am
    - nathie
      
      Runny wet milky bars perhaps?
      
      Hard as when in control but starts to melt when heat is applied?
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:29am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        White chocolate that thinks it’s brown.
        
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        February 24, 2024 11:27am
- kowtow
  
  Today’s Herald, reporter Kirsty Wynn , has a piece on this.
  
  It quotes 3 real estate agents , all in favour of the course. One even saying ” Pushing back will only end in a disaster for you that’s for sure.” Another is reported as initially against the course , but doing it had changed her view ( now she loves Big Brother) and one agent , the report goes to pains to tell us is very succesful ,one Tama Emery of Proud Maori is extensively quoted about the wonderfulness of all this.
  
  Who is not reported as having been asked for comment is Dickson herself .Odd as she was a guest on HDPA last night . One of her concerns is that as a Christian the course , she says , requires one to accept a maori spiritual view ( paraphrasing) Odd that our intrepid reporter saw fit not to include that in her piece.
  
  And the editor is clearly on board as the story is accompanied by an Emmerson cartoon ( surprise surprise) Showing presumably Dickson telling someone “I’d rather enrich my lawyer than enrich my cultural skill set” . Which of course misses the point entirely , but they know that don’t they.
  
  Coincidentally all this ties in beautifully with Karl du Fresne’s last blog on the state of our media . Gatekeeping , opinionated and compromised by driving agenda rather than presenting “news”.
  
  Shocking.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:30am
  - John Loveridge
    
    Emmerson really is a bit thick.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:55am
    - Grumpy Silver Top
      
      Haven’t ever found any of his cartoons clever so I guess I agree John.
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:28pm
    - Paulus
      
      Emmerson – Only a bit thick ?
      Wow !
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:29pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So the Herald reporters now share Maori propaganda?
    How about that? Who knew?
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:00am
  - Muttonbird
    
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    One of her concerns is that as a Christian the course , she says , requires one to accept a maori spiritual view ( paraphrasing)
    
    She doesn’t need to accept a Maori spiritual view. She just needs to do the course.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:11am
    - Grunter
      
      Why does she NEED to do the course? If she WANTS to do the course then go for it.
      
      If it is such a good course it wouldn’t be compulsory.
      
      You lefties just don’t get it. Making it compulsory is the big issue here. Stop telling people what they NEED to do FFS!!
      
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      February 24, 2024 11:10am
      - Muttonbird
        
        It’s part of REA’s obligations as the industry authority. It so happened that course was one of two compulsory last year, so yeah, she does NEED to do it, if she wants to retain her licence.
        
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        February 24, 2024 11:33am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Why the f… should she have to ffs
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:28pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Mutton: So, you’d be quite happy if the poor woman pretends to pray to God’s she doesn’t recognise?
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:30pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      There is no need to do the course other that continuing Maori propaganda for the now happening Coup, that nobody wants to talk about because of fear of being branded “racist!”
      Call me “racist.” I don’t care. It is like being offended – be offended, I don’t care if you have your tits in a tangle.
      
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      February 24, 2024 2:43pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      What you are describing is called “Ketman” where people openly support views they internally oppose.
      It’s from a Persian word meaning “to conceal”
      It’s a psychological tactic to survive in oppressive totalitarian regimes.
      Czesław Miłosz, a Polish philosopher explored Ketman in his work “The Captive Mind” (1953). Miłosz emphasized that the pressure of totalitarian regimes on individuals is not a sudden shift from truth to lies but a gradual process. Intellectuals in post-World War II Poland gradually accepted the new communist doctrine, even though it contradicted their previous values and aesthetics.
      I notice that you, Muttonbird aren’t giving any defense of this Māori module on its own merits. How does this course make a real estate agent a better agent or a better person? You either subtly imply that she’s racist or just say that it’s a requirement and so she should just do it even if she doesn’t agree to do it.
      Pure ketman.
      What happened to being an authentic person, living by your own beliefs? Is that just for Rainbow people and not Christians?
      
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      February 24, 2024 7:55pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  The REI will likely back off and all the publicity that Janet Dickson received could help her with sellers clamering for her services.
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:02am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Hear hear, what that person said!
    Amazing how these things end up as an unintended brainfart.
    
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    February 24, 2024 2:44pm
  - pdm
    
    Sorry fat fingers got you a downtick.
    
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    February 24, 2024 3:49pm
krazykiwi

Yes, please do try this at home:-

Argentina’s Javier Milei is racking up some solid wins, with the fiscal basketcase seeing its first monthly budget surplus in 12 years.

Apparently it took Milei just 9 and a half weeks to balance a budget that was projected at 5% of GDP under the previous government. In US terms, he turned a 1.2 trillion dollar annual deficit into a 400 billion surplus. In 9 and a half weeks.
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February 24, 2024 8:13am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Argentina is likely to be a new source of immigrants
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:25am
- Grunter
  
  Our lot have the perfect excuse to go ‘full on Milei” in the May budget.
  
  It’s time to ditch entire Ministries.
  
  Time to sell assets (eg Landcorp – why is the Govt our largest farmer?). Sell TVNZ and RNZ. Sell Air NZ. The State has no reason to be involved.
  
  And it’s time to over ride the entire RMA with emergency fast tracking to get the private sector cracking. Declare an economic emergency that requires urgent private investment.
  
  Stop all school lunches. Stop fees free University. Stop all the Global Boiling funding. Stop cycleways. Drain the sihtty Wellington swamp big time.
  
  Do all that and we would be in surplus with a reduced debt burden overnight. None of the above is complicated.
  
  Other ideas anyone?
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:19am
  - Cassandra
    
    Absolutely! And more – vouchers for education, cease funding racism at universities, close racial organizations such as Maori and Pacific only government departments, close HRC, stop funding Maori family recreation centre aka maraes.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:49am
  - Aquarius
    
    Close the ‘Cullen’ fund and sell the investments to pay down debt
    While the Government is borrowing and retaining overseas investments
    It is the equivalent of borrowing against your (and my) house and investing in the US and other sharemarkets
    When the Government is not borrowing, it means they are taxing us more than necessary to invest in the US and other sharemarkets
    And we as taxpayers own the associated risk !
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Nats did have a policy to sell farms to young farmers in nz, you have to remember where ldndcorp came from. They were the lands and serevey arm of farming, the land use to be used for testing, for trials, and much of that still happens, but lately they have bought farms that are too expensive for other NZers too pay for, its possibly better than foreigners buying our large scale farms
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:35pm
    - Paulus
      
      The return on Capital from Landcorp is abysmal but who cares ?
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:31pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      That’s worth considering.
      
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      February 24, 2024 3:04pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Landcorp got the crap land that was not pretty enough for DoC, when the old Dept of Lands was cut up. They have invested in the land to turn into good farming land. They also have some economies of scale – sending animals up & down the country depending on where the grass (rain) is & what the schedule payments look like.
      
      Landcorp also hold land in anticipation of treaty settlements.
      
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      February 24, 2024 5:25pm
  - jon
    
    Grunter, so well said. You are firing on all cylinders. The only problem is we have a Nat led govt which is too timid. If it was Act in the box seat, most of what you propose would be a reality.
    
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    February 24, 2024 1:34pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Stop the “Co-Governance” bullshit. Kill it dead!
    The Governments job is to Govern!
    “None of the above is complicated” unless you are a Public Sector employee.
    Notice I don’t call them public servants? They serve themselves, full stop.
    
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    February 24, 2024 2:50pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Re LandCorp … Reality is that the Government has to manage a lot of land (by default any land that is not owned by someone else is basically owned by the Crown).
    
    Much of that land is national parks and conservation estate, so the Crown has DoC to manage that land.
    
    Another large portion of that land is farmland, so the Crown has LandCorp to manage that part of its landholdings.
    
    LandCorp has about 125 farms. Some of them are good quality farmland, and those farms make a good profit. But much of it (more than half by number, not sure about by area) is poor quality farmland that private sector farmers don’t want because it wouldn’t be sufficiently profitable. A lot of those farms came into Govt ownership because the private sector farmers walked off the land.
    
    Basically, within Landcorp, the profits from the good farms cover the losses from the bad farms. After that all that’s left is a relatively small profit.
    
    National has, in the past, said it would sell off LandCorp’s farms. But, pragmatically, all they would be able to sell is the good quality farms.
    
    Sure, they’d have some one-off sales proceeds, but let’s be realistic … politicians would blow that money within a year or two on whatever was their current fad (Provincial Growth Fund II anybody?). And then we the taxpayer would be left with the costs/losses from continuing to have to operate the poor quality farms. I’m not sure how that’s a good outcome for us taxpayers?
    
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    February 24, 2024 5:36pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Re Air New Zealand … we’ve sold it in the past and then had to buy it back because the private sector owners made such a poor job of it.
    
    That’s not a huge surprise because the consistent history of the airline industry is airlines going from profitable to bankrupt to bail-out to profitable to bankrupt to …
    
    I was involved in the 2002 recapitalisation of Air NZ. The rationale was simple … the externalities to NZ Inc from Air New Zealand ceasing operations were so profound that the Government had no choice but to step in and recapitalise it.
    
    I’ve heard all the common theories, and none of them were true. Singapore Airlines blinked and clearly weren’t going to put any more money in. No other private sector funders were prepared to do it either (we talked with lots of them). It was a simple choice between (a) Government stepping in or (b) Air New Zealand ceasing operations.
    
    The Govt couldn’t allow Air NZ to cease operations because its the main travel option for business & personal travel within New Zealand, and between NZ and the rest of the world. If that stopped, even for a week, the economic impact on NZ was huge.
    
    This is where Government’s financial interests are different to private sector investors’ financial interests. Private sector investors talk about externalities, which have no value to them. Governments don’t have externalities … they have, must have, a much wider view of value
    
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    February 24, 2024 5:44pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Get him over here.
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:01am
  - MCōs
    
    Not everything that sparkles is diamonds
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/21/argentina-new-leader-extreme-abortion-gay-rights-javier-milei?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:22pm
    - Grunter
      
      So he is proposing a referendum on abortion, what is wrong with that? Everyone gets to vote on an issue that has been debated endlessly in most societies.
      
      What is your point MCos?
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:52pm
      - NoFax
        
        The most extreme abortion laws in the world was passed here without almost no debate. And now we have the lowest fertility levels since 1943 and the highest levels of migration. The self-hated for NZers continue.
        
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        February 24, 2024 1:38pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        NoFax, it just blows your mind, doesn’t it?
        1. Governments: legalise abortion, subsidise birth control, liberalise divorce law, weaken marriage etc. because feminism = equality
        2. Birth rates plummet
        3. Governments: “Oh no, we’re running out of workers! We need to import foreigners right now!”
        4. Also governments: “What would you do without us? You need us to ru(i)n the country!”
        (Not arguing that no social reforms whatsoever were necessary, but feminism, like most progressive “bright ideas”, have upsides AND downsides.)
        
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        February 24, 2024 3:12pm
    - NoFax
      
      Down tick for quoting the guardian. He wants to have a referendum on abortion which the Left hate as we might vote for unapproved positions. The worse PM just unpersoned a class of people because… “be kind”. Argentina might have a future whereas a country once called NZ fades into memory.
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:36pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Credit where credit is due. This is an interesting and informative story that highlights a problem with EQC’s operative legislation. Despite being about storms and land, neither climate change nor Maori’s special relationship with land are mentioned; nor are Maori words pepperpotted through.

I’m tempted to whiffle on about how enjoyable it was to read old style journalism, or how the journalist will be lucky to survive the coming purge, but will leave it there.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350190580/300k-slip-and-year-long-saga
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February 24, 2024 8:24am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Yesterday I had a request from National to renew my subscription.
I emailed back declining and vented my spleen why.
Chris Luxon is too woke and not doing the job he was voted in to do, specifically mentioning 3 waters and Co-Governance.
I hope more do the same. If he wants to stay in Politics he has to wake up.
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February 24, 2024 8:24am
- MCōs
  
  Are you expecting a politician to stick to his election promises?
  No way, Jose!
  Especially when he can say they go against the coalition agreement
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:36am
  - cmm
    
    You would have a point, except that there is no coalition agreement that supports 3W.
    
    All 3W limp-wristness is coming from National.
    
    It’s a two way street. Don’t live up to your election promises then don’t expect people to continue support.
    
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    February 24, 2024 8:52am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    But they don’t go against the coalition agreement. Seymour and Peters want co-governance dropped.
    Luxon just will not drop the c-governance idea. It will cost him his job come 2026.
    
    Go have a read of the website http://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi
    Who knows, you may learn something.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:04am
- Bridgenag
  
  They are not moving fast enough removing all the maorification of everything.
  
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  February 24, 2024 8:57am
- Stellaboxer
  
  “If he wants to stay in Politics he has to wake up.” He’s already woke lol.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:07am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Luxon seems to be aweakening rather than awakening .
    
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    February 24, 2024 11:01am
- Ghost
  
  Actually he is doing the job he was voted in to do. I suggest you look at nationals campaign, everything he said he would do he is. Then look at the agreements with act and nz first, still doing what they agreed to do.
  
  What they are doing with 3 waters is what they campaigned on. And on Tuesday they submit a bill getting rid of Māori health.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:10am
  - Cassandra
    
    No they’re not, they’re are moving the MHA into the Department, that’s all. And some of the 3 Waters racism remains – why do Maoris get a say and I don’t? On anything!
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:51am
    - Ghost
      
      they are doing exactly what they campaigned on with 3 waters.
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:00am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        ‘Repealing’ is a very weak word.
        Co-Governance he will not drop, the door is open.
        
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        February 24, 2024 10:10am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Sad to say Luxon is proving to be the weakest link as predicted pre election. I’ll reserve full judgement until the end of the year, but not looking good so far.
  
  His aligning with Trudeau and Albanese was a shocker for me. As was his support of Navalny.
  
  I understand the need to appear to show solidarity with allies, but the hypocrisy of criticising this while collectively failing to speak out re the death of a US citizen and journalist while in Ukrainian custody, speaks volumes. Gonzalo Lira.
  
  Also silence around the horrific abuses of Julian Assange. Condemn political torture and abuse for sure, but try and not be hypocritical about it.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:17am
  - Che Guava
    
    Why is it that there is a “consensus position” espoused by every leader of a liberal democracy that can never be deviated from? How is it that such ideological uniformity can come about in what are supposedly sovereign democratic nations, where it would be reasonable to expect some heterogeneity?
    
    How is this any different from the “consensus” espoused by all states in the USSR (and where any leaders who went off script were swiftly replaced or otherwise deposed)?
    
    Is this because in a “liberal democracy” there is no actual popular sovereignty at all, and it is as much a uniform set of top-down ideas that is supported by lies and propaganda as much as any “un-democratic” state?
    
    That’s a rhetorical question, btw.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:08am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Clan Mcleod, welcome back.
    We miss your knowledge.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:11am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Thanks Steve, took a little time out for mental health, also was away on a fishing/golf adventure for 10 days. All the way down to the bottom of the North Island, thankfully nowhere near Wellington!!
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:14am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Now we are just looking for Benedict, he is absent from class.
        Hope he didn’t get doxed again by some coward.
        
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        February 24, 2024 10:18am
- Scott
  
  I think the coalition is doing really well. They have repealed three waters. They have a plan in place to replace three waters. They are getting on with getting rid of the Maori Health Authority. They are working with vim and vigour over this hundred days to repeal so much of Labour’s legislative agenda. I think they are doing what they campaigned on.
  
  In the face of the hostility of the mainstream media and the fact that many New Zealanders are very woke, they have been going great guns.
  More power to them I say!
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:22am
  - Swifty
    
    Yes, no complaints so far from me.
    
    I would ask though for a total cleanout of the HRC – if not total abolishment.
    
    It’s just become a far-left cheerleading squad for greater and greater state interventions in our lives and, in my opinion, have as a consequence betrayed their most basic charge – that of maximising human freedom and liberty.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:44am
    - kowtow
      
      The only party with the balls for a real “clean out” is Act.
      
      The Nats make a show of picking up a broom , but it’s only for brushing under the carpet .
      
      NZF, they go with whoever offers a chance of throwing a brand new vacuum cleaner their way , but once provided only ever use it to blow hard , not suck.
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:20am
    - Swifty
      
      I offer as evidence this smoking gun – one of many the HRC have left lying around:
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/he-whakamana-tangata-a-life-of-dignity-for-all-karanina-sumeo-equal-employment-opportunities-commissioner/67HQGVVPHNDATJIGEUBRUGJZG4/#:~:text=The%20rush%20by%20our%20new,disabled%20people%20and%20young%20people.
      
      Our own Equal Opprtunities Commissioner calling for people to be forced to enter into and be governed by employment relationships they want no part of. To be forced to accept wages, terms and conditions of employment determined by others rather than being negotiated by themselves and their employers.
      
      How can this possibly be the position championed by the very organisation established to uphold our human rights – one of which is free association and the ability and freedom to enter into and decline to enter into any agreement, of your own choice.
      
      I just can’t believe they let themselves fall into this trap.
      
      Out, out, OUT!
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:22am
    - David Garrett
      
      “abolishment” is not a word old boy…you are searching for abolition
      
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      February 24, 2024 12:34pm
      - Ghost
        
        https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/abolishment
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:40pm
      - Swifty
        
        I understand that both are perfectly acceptable but that ‘abolition’ is more common, I have read.
        
        I equate ‘abolition’ with slavery so tend not to use it.
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:54pm
  - pdm
    
    `I think the coalition is doing really well.’
    
    Brooke van Velden and Simeon Brown have been setting a cracking pace and it looks like Shane Reti is set to join the Maorification rescinding party next week.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:58am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Shane Reti will make a huge difference, but will Luxon control what he can say?
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    From the google machine:
    “Does repealed mean replaced?
    There are two basic types of repeal; a repeal with a re-enactment is used to replace the law with an updated, amended, or otherwise related law, or a repeal without replacement so as to abolish its provisions altogether.”
    I like the idea of no replacement.
    Watch the Politicians, they are slippery.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:14am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Get it now folks? I do not like the word “repeal.”
      
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      February 24, 2024 10:16am
      - David Garrett
        
        Steve: Well you should like repeal…it simply means making one or more laws of no further effect.
        
        Repeal and replacement is the slippery one; unless it is made abundantly clear what the repealed law will be replaced with.
        
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        February 24, 2024 12:36pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        DG,
        I still like the repeal without replacement.
        That leaves no room for slippery Luxon to mess about in, but hey David, you are the wordsmith, far more than I ever will be.
        When you are next in Kaukop, we must have a beer. Just one, I don’t do the drink/drive thing. Self enforced rule.
        
        3 typos corrected, any more? Fuck!
        
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        February 24, 2024 3:32pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He is doing exactly what he said on co governance and 3 waters ffs, 3 waters is gone, no co governance in services, next week they start getting rid of the Māori health authority, if you are disgruntled, then you will be furious at ACT for signing up to not getting rid of three waters and co governance
  
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  February 24, 2024 12:39pm
artemisia

NBR yesterday. Cuts starting to bite. Slight problem – the people in those roles are likely to be significantly better than the permies engaged for similar. But maybe it is planning for announcements about announcements that is longer a priority.

PwC NZ could cut up to 50 government advisory roles – Firm says there has been an industry-wide reduction in demand for some areas of government advisory.
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- rouppe
  
  50? Is that all?
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:31am
- mawm
  
  Is this the PWC who have acted in an advisory capacity to the government in restructuring various large Ministries at huge cost?
  
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  February 24, 2024 2:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Seems this may be the only way to force Joe Biden to co-operate. America or Uktaine, make up your mind or the money dries up.
Fight fire with dynamite! Lara Trump at CPAC.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/byron-donalds-threatens-to-shut-down-the-government-unless-joe-biden-secures-the-border-in-fiery-start-to-cpac-lara-trump-endorses-early-voting-as-maga-fans-descend-on-washington/ar-BB1iJJOo
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February 24, 2024 8:33am
Swifty

I never knew the US founding fathers were black:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54DQGQ1qo14
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February 24, 2024 8:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Thing is, Paul Joseph Watson is right – again.
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:29am
- Paulus
  
  Well the founding fathers were from Britain.
  For example Rev John Harvard was London born, but from Liverpool as a Minister
  Harvard College was founded in 1636 by vote of the Great and General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Two years later, in 1638, the college became home to North America’s first known printing press, carried by the ship John of London. Three years later, the college was renamed in honor of deceased Charlestown minister John Harvard (1607–1638) who had bequeathed to the school his entire library and half of his monetary estate.
  Not sure about the Black founders though.
  
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  February 24, 2024 1:41pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You missed the obvious //
    
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    February 24, 2024 3:46pm
I remember when

‘Sunday” on TV One this week.
“The government is going to ban gang patches but who is going to police it?
Surely the answer is provided in the question.
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February 24, 2024 8:41am
- MCōs
  
  Reminds me of my time in Twizel
  One Friday night for a change we drove down to a big raucous pub in Oamaru
  The management started chucking out some of the more rowdy types who just walked around the other side and came back in again
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:07am
  - Dougal10
    
    Oamaru was a licencing trust town so raucous is probably a bit of a stretch .
    
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    February 24, 2024 6:28pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Police will police it and the Judges will throw them in jail!//
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:31am
Bernard Black

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/02/23/we-need-to-talk-about-eco-terrorism/
A good article on Spiked.
The Eco Armageddon cult are more than just annoying idiots who glue themselves to busy roads and throw paint at priceless works of art, some of them are straight out murderous bastards.
A certain short arse Australian is deservedly mentioned, along with a manifesto that the people of NZ have been banned from reading least it warps our fragile little minds.
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February 24, 2024 8:48am
- ClanMcleod
  
  As with all ideologically driven agendas that aren’t based on anything scientific, you will find deranged and dangerous people.
  
  They cannot handle it when their pov is proven to be false and worse, idiotic. This particular nutter was threatening to kill 50 politicians.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:21am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump uses the “C” word – Communism.
On a smaller scale the same is happening in NZ.
“As if you didn’t need more proof of President Trump’s comments about Communism in America…
Here’s Letitia James saying she will seize his assets” That is straight out blackmail.(video)
https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/president-trumps-crusade-against-the-radical-left-02-23-2024/?
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February 24, 2024 8:51am
Bridgenag

Friday Funnies: You Are Here…
Better late than never.

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/friday-funnies-you-are-here?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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February 24, 2024 8:52am
- Grunter
  
  I laughed at the one – “What’s the pay gap between all 99 genders?”
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:35am
Vinicius

Tremain appears to be having a sly dig at a soon to be retired ex-Finance Minister?

If so, he has hit the nail on the head.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/tremain-friday-s-cartoon-1
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February 24, 2024 9:00am
- kevn
  
  Vini… There are several ex-pollies this cartoon fits.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:57am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The woke World we are turning into.
Words should definitely be removed from our vocabularies.
Childish people being offended?

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/24-expressions-with-racist-origins-you-should-stop-saying/ss-BB1iKi94
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February 24, 2024 9:14am
Maggy Wassilieff

Graham Adams eviscerates our duplicitous MSM chiefs:

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2024/02/23/media-chiefs-struggle-to-understand-democracy/
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February 24, 2024 9:18am
- Swifty
  
  Good grief.
  
  These people have allowed themselves to become hopelessly compromised.
  
  I notice too that the media folk all call for a robust, strong and ‘free’ media.
  
  Do they not see the irony in that when they on the other hand gleefully accept millions of dollars from the NZ Labour Party via the government cheque book and, more importantly, accept the strings with which it is given?
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:12am
- Souvlaki
  
  Yes…all true.
  Equally…..if you have time , this interview below ,of David Seymour by Rodney Hide is excellent. All National MPs in particular should be made to listen to it.
  To take the stand Luxon has to date, is to intellectually embarrass not only himself, but also the entire National caucus by association. It dovetails well with Adam’s article about the dishonesty of the 4th estate….with whom Luxon appears to be aligning himself 🤨🙄
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/rodney-hide-interviews-david-seymour
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:39am
  - Grunter
    
    Seymour is very articulate on this topic.
    
    I challenge anyone to debate him logically and rationally (no emotional BS and name calling allowed). Seymour would clean the floor with anyone arguing the opposite position.
    
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    February 24, 2024 1:17pm
MCōs

My sister stumbled upon a school magazine from the good old days, which looks like they were in fact the bad old days

‘I welcome you all to the break-up of St Patrick’s High School for 1979. Over the last few years, there has been much discussion over the state of education in New Zealand. Recently we have heard the cry for back to the Fundamentals. Many people think that skills in reading, writing, and arithmetic are essential to a successful education, and they are quite correct. Of equal importance to a successful education is surely the realisation of where the family and the school fit into the education of the pupil. Schools have been under attack . . . . .”

Well aren’t schools always under attack then?
The more thing change, the more they stay the same
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February 24, 2024 9:56am
- Grunter
  
  Yep State monopolised schooling has been a major problem in NZ for a long time.
  
  But it is now worse with all the Leftards indoctrinating children with Global Boiling, Gender nonsense, Māori magic, socialism is good.
  
  They have gone from being a below average schooling system to now an evil group of Leftards.
  
  And I believe most Kiwis don’t sense how bad this is getting. We now have a new generation of completely indoctrinated young adults hitting the reality of the real world and they can not cope.
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:27am
  - MCōs
    
    Catholic schools used to be private, but they were on the verge of collapse in the early seventies until they were integrated into the state system
    As it happens if you have the money you can send your kids to a private school if you’re unhappy with the state system, as we did with half of ours.
    Also within the state system there is a big variation between what was formerly known as decile 1 & decile 10.
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:36pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Catholic schools were private only in the sense that they were set up and supported by Catholic families. The staff were nuns, brothers & priests who devoted their lives to educating Catholic children, while families helped build the schools, fund raised through fairs, housie and bottle drives. The fees were always tiny, compared to private schools.
      
      By the 60s leading into the 70s it was clear that the model was no longer sustainable. Everything from falling vocations, a wider understanding of Catholic mission post Vatican 2, changing expectations among families & inflation pointed in one direction. It was recognised by politicians of all stripes that Catholics paid tax and deserved a state funded education – bear in mind that the State had been getting a free ride for 15-20% of pupils.
      
      Integration means that the State pays operational costs (ie teacher salaries) while the Proprietor (ultimately the Catholic Cardinal of NZ) owns the assets (land & buildings).
      
      Nowadays Catholic schools still charge fees, but from what I’ve read they seem to charge less than at least some state schools – think the nominally state school Auckland Grammar.
      
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      February 24, 2024 5:44pm
Tasman devil

The next Labour Party Prime Minister has not been born.
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February 24, 2024 10:00am
- Inandout
  
  Td, or if born and are in the public school system they will be getting programmed as woke socialists, a compulsory attribute in a Labour politician.
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:39am
- Paulus
  
  Ginny would not like that comment !
  She is risen ! – from the Labour Party her family.
  
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  February 24, 2024 1:44pm
Maggie Pie

Things that make you go “hmmmm”

COVID-19: VAXATHON IS ‘A CALL TO ACTION’
– Efeso Collins (RNZ 13 October 2021)

Aotearoa is set to host it’s first ever ‘Vaxathon’ – a nationwide event at boosting numbers by around 100,000.
Manakau Ward Councillor Efeso Collins says he was very excited about the event…..

https://twitter.com/Xx17965797N/status/1761130917714632796
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February 24, 2024 10:18am
- Allan
  
  My thoughts exactly Maggie Pie. The evidence is mounting by the day and still those in authority have their fingers in their ears going la,la,la and ignoring it. Hopefully one day those responsible will be held to account for their actions however I am not holding my breath waiting for that day.
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:33am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, some may well ask ‘does saline have that effect?’.
  
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  February 24, 2024 10:34am
  - kevn
    
    Inand… Indeed. A lack of the ‘elites’ showing up in stats. Mind you, they knew late 2020 there were issues.
    
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    February 24, 2024 10:50am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Don’t forget the 11,000 secret exemptions given to some ‘special’ people.
    
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    February 24, 2024 11:28am
    - Inandout
      
      CM, that ‘exemption’ must have been special otherwise they would have been barred from many eating establishments. Perhaps an ex waiter from those times could enlighten us.
      
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      February 24, 2024 11:44am
- Grunter
  
  Excess deaths still tracking 10%-20% above historical records in most western highly jabbed countries. Eastern European countries where much fewer were jabbed do not have an excess death problem. That is purely what the data is showing. An irrefutable fact.
  
  Now, when you ask the elites, “Why is that?” You get labelled a conspiracy theorist whack job simply for asking the question.
  
  Hmmm, sounds like ‘They’ might be hiding something!
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:34am
  - NothingLeft
    
    John Campbell today showing that UK govt have now resorted to torturing the excess death data to try and make it appear that there are less excess deaths than there really are.
    
    Just proving that they know they have made an appalling mistake that has (and will) kill 10’s to 100’s of thousands, and are now desperate to cover it up.
    
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    February 24, 2024 11:51am
- Vory v zakone
  
  Efeso’s ‘Died Suddenly’ passing made news overseas… 😯
  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/new-zealand-politician-who-pushes-mass-covid-vaccination/?fbclid=IwAR19IoZ4waC53JZoU2UmYHvVIBkbkhuNPBL770W7Bc5uYKTFq_7E1eyBrNE
  
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  February 25, 2024 12:56am
Surely Knott

Seems like we have already been decolonised.

Auckland Council and Govt supports the Pasifika Festival, the Diwali Festival, The Chinese Lantern Festival, Matariki.

Just in the months of Feb/March alone google finds there is a Lantern Festival, Pasifika Festival, , Pacific Festival, Taste of Pasifik, a Diversity Festival, Chinese New Years Festival, Fiji Festival, ]Takapuna Beach Latin Fiesta, World of Flavours International food festival.

Britain seems surprisingly left out. Why? Shouldn’t their be a Britain festival. They are after all partners in the treaty and the development of the nation.
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February 24, 2024 10:50am
- Muttonbird
  
  There’s a Britain festival every day. It’s called the white privilege jamboree.
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:36am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    What privilege that isn’t available to everyone else?
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:01pm
  - Ghost
    
    Strangely that only plays in the deluded heads of a few people who want excuses for why they can’t achieve what others are. Strangely those who don’t believe it in it are achieving what they aren’t supposed to be achieving according to the mental inept few that buy into this
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:09pm
  - Grunter
    
    In some ways I actually feel sorry for you. You have clearly been brainwashed big time over the past 6 years as all this mumbo-jumbo has hit NZ. I don’t know your background but your institutionalised new age leftism seems to run deep.
    
    You do realise that it has all been made up and there is no evidence for any of it?
    
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    February 24, 2024 1:00pm
- Ghost
  
  British and Irish film festival is always good.
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:44am
thirteenstars

I see the National Blue-Greens (Teals) are meeting this weekend at the Waitangi Treaty grounds to discuss “practical” solutions to environmental problems.

Yup. Like Net Zero. No doubt Maureen Pugh got an invite. I trust the karakia was not too long and the koha was not too nui.
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February 24, 2024 11:08am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Good piece by John Porter.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/maori-are-taking-over-new-zealand-here-is-more-proof/?
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February 24, 2024 11:10am
Maggie Pie

ZBNews reports….

“143,000 children are living in hardship and poverty”

Well, I know my partner and me are certainly doing our bit for them. God knows how many families are out there with unplanned and unwanted kids.

Instead of always trying to load the remedy onto hard working taxpayers, what’s needed is for a government that is prepared to make the hard decisions, and introduce measures that will actually eliminate the root cause of the problem.
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February 24, 2024 11:23am
- Muttonbird
  
  What’s the root cause of the problem, capitalism?
  
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  February 24, 2024 11:59am
  - artemisia
    
    That is a very good question. Maybe the root cause of children in poverty has been identified somewhere in the world. Or even in our country. If so, what is it?
    
    Root cause analysis is a structured discipline. It gets to the root cause when there are no more questions.
    
    And that is the point where solutions can be tested against the root cause in case the answers are to the wrong questions. There’s a lot of that about these days.
    
    I’m a dreamer, I know.
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:30pm
  - Swifty
    
    What do you think it is Muttonbird and, more importantly, what do you think is the solution?
    
    I’m all ears….
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:44pm
  - amospicton
    
    There’s a negative correlation between levels of child poverty in absolute terms and capitalism. What is referred to a child poverty in a capitalist society is nothing of the sort in socialist shitholes. Capitalism has lifted more children out of poverty than any other system.
    
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    February 24, 2024 12:54pm
    - Swifty
      
      He will stick his fingers in his ears and refuse to hear that.
      
      He will refuse to accept any evidence you put in front of him – just as he will be unable to name any socialist countries who have fixed poverty with anything like the success that free market economies have done.
      
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      February 24, 2024 1:09pm
      - Gravelroad
        
        The reality is that even if some parents/families received a state funded income of $5000+ per week, it wouldn’t necessarily be spent on the children’s needs and futures.
        That is just the way it rolls with self absorbed adults.
        There needs to be a way of trying to ensure that money paid out by the state for the benefit of children in need is actually spent for that purpose – not used to buy alcohol, drugs, gambling, new TV’s/play stations and dog food. Some people feed their dogs more than they give their kids.
        I do not know how that can be solved, but giving cash to useless parents for their kids does not seem to be fixing much does it?
        So long as the adults feel that it is “their money”, they will use it for their own “needs” and a lot of kids will stay in poverty.
        And the rest of us will have to keep paying out for free food in schools as well as food for the adults and their dogs.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:25pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        The answer is easy, and that is real jobs for anyone able to do them. Not only do the wages lift people out of poverty, they engender a sense of self worth in the worker.
        
        One of the cruelest part of a life on the dole is the spiritual poverty that accompanies it – the idea that the recipient as a non contributor has no value as a person. It’s a fallacy, of course – we all have innate worth – but it’s easiest demonstrated through working.
        
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        February 24, 2024 5:51pm
  - Grumpy Silver Top
    
    Irresponsible sexual congress leading to pregnancy perhaps? Frequently fuelled by alcohol abuse. What do you think?
    
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    February 24, 2024 1:37pm
    - Che Guava
      
      But that’s a symptom of a deeper issue. Why do so many feel “free” to engage in promiscuity and alcohol abuse, with these behaviours being so normalised, and even expected, in our degenerate society?
      
      Because we now have a society where pleasure, lack of responsibility and freedom from constraints are seen as the highest values.
      
      “Don’t be a square, man! What, are you an anti-freedom fascist or something?”
      
      But all of these short-sighted “freedom” values, paradoxically, make us much easier to control. Following one’s passions isn’t freedom, its slavery of a kind.
      
      And how have these become our values? Because, mostly in the pursuit of higher profits, through heavy social engineering and media manipulation, the old “outdated” values were replaced with a “liberated” individualism that leads to many social ills.
      
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      February 24, 2024 2:34pm
      - artemisia
        
        Maybe that deeper issue is as simple as ‘looking for love’.
        
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        February 24, 2024 2:47pm
      - mogg
        
        Thank you Chairman Mao one day you might need to take o look in the mirror.
        
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        February 24, 2024 3:52pm
  - Paulus
    
    Problem is that nobody will ascend to the root cause because it is racial – and we cannot be seen to do that anytime anywhere.
    
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    February 24, 2024 1:46pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      It’s not racial. It’s shitty parenting and culture/community/family structures that tolerate shitty/criminal/loser behaviour.
      
      Contrast relative success of NZ’s PI communities, typically with far higher polynesian ancestry to the comparative failure of the far more European interbred Maori.
      
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      February 24, 2024 3:28pm
  - Che Guava
    
    “What’s the root cause of the problem, capitalism?”
    
    While simplistic, it cannot be denied that we live in a society with heavily capitalist underpinnings (and by “capitalist” I mean ubiquitous usury, not free-markets), and therefore the problems we have are either directly or indirectly derived from those underpinnings.
    
    It’s irrelevant that under the earlier stages of capitalism wealth increased and initially things seemed liked they could go on forever, but capitalism eating itself and taking society down with it was as inevitable as a newborn being destined to die eventually.
    
    What does “Agenda 2030” entail other than a radical reset of the current system by the present elite, motivated by a recognition that the old system has entered its end-times, as was inevitable from the outset?
    
    Once all the debt created under capitalism becomes impossible to repay, or even service the interest, things have to drastically change, one way or another.
    
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    February 24, 2024 2:25pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    The root cause is the method of measurement!
    
    The measuremen in NZ is made up of wet statements.
    
    Apply the 3rd world measure of Poverty and miraculously there would be no poverty in NZ.
    
    This is the NZ list
    housing affordability – as measured by the percentage of children and young people (ages 0-17) living in households spending more than 30 percent of their disposable income on housing.
    housing quality – as measured by the percentage of children and young people (ages 0-17) living in households with a major problem with dampness or mould.
    food insecurity – as measured by the percentage of children (ages 0-15) living in households reporting food runs out often or sometimes.
    regular school attendance – as measured by the percentage of children and young people (ages 6-16) who are regularly attending school.
    avoidable hospitalisations – as measured by the rate of children (ages 0-15) hospitalised for potentially avoidable illnesses.
    
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    February 24, 2024 3:55pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘What’s the root cause of the problem, capitalism?’
    
    Rootin’ without a cap is the problem.
    
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    February 24, 2024 5:50pm
- imalwaysright
  
  The man who calculates the number of waifs cited some of the sixteen criteria for waifdom.
  Things like not having a nice set of clothes for going out, buying cheaper cuts of meat, no access to broadband…
  There won’t be too many kiwis who wouldn’t be able to tick half of the sixteen boxes.
  
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  February 24, 2024 2:16pm
ClanMcleod

Luxon has just tweeted this:

Two years on from Putin’s brutal and illegal invasion, New Zealanders stand united with the people of Ukraine in their brave defence of their homeland. Slava Ukraini!

https://x.com/chrisluxonmp/status/1761151610640847127?s=20

Who the hell is in charge of his Twitter account??? This has to be the worst tweet put out yet under his name.
Whether you support Ukraine or not, this is a cringeworthy post and if the comments are anything to go by, it’s a massive backfire.
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February 24, 2024 11:42am
- Inandout
  
  CM, he is not what I voted, not what I saw when he was campaigning. Coalition partners suddenly take on a more important role, indeed a vital role.
  
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  February 24, 2024 12:00pm
- Che Guava
  
  As a leader Luxon, isn’t fit to shine Putin’s shoes. In those 27 words, Luxon’s unoriginality, vacuity and fealty to Judeo-American hegemony are completely obvious.
  
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  February 24, 2024 12:30pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And Wait!
  While Zelensky is begging the rest of the world, (like us), to fund this war, it appears he is using that money to fund his own lavish lifestyle!
  According to a linked-in post, not only does he own luxury properties all over the world, he has just used 2 of his aides to purhase $75million Superyachts… named ‘Lucky Me’ and ‘My Legacy’
  
  https://linkedin.com/pulse/zelensky-lives-luxury-top-aides-acquire-75-million-pv1mc
  
  SHEESH!!
  
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  February 24, 2024 12:51pm
- Grunter
  
  I agree, but to be fair all NZ politicians and Parties sing the same tune on Ukraine. It is just so wrong on many levels.
  
  But to say “New Zealand stands united…” What BS. And he has no right to say siht like that on behave of all citizens.
  
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  February 24, 2024 1:07pm
  - stiff cheese
    
    Why isn’t he calling for peace talks?
    
    Perhaps even offering to broker a deal.
    
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    February 24, 2024 3:42pm
- blue collar
  
  Can’t even blame booze for it ….
  
  Putin must’ve asked where his 26 million is ?
  
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  February 24, 2024 1:10pm
- NoFax
  
  Hopefully, Putin can bring home the troops and end the war today.
  
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  February 24, 2024 1:49pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Clan,
  Welcome back.
  
  Maybe Luxon should have raised the issue of a ceasefire which Russia is ready to negotiate, and has been ready to since April 2022 when Boris told Z to rip it up.
  
  Luxon could also ask Z to have lifted the Ukrainian Presidential Decree that specifically prohibits Ukraine from taking part in peace negotiations .
  
  In other words, Luxon could have suggested something useful instead of painting all kiwis as supporters of a corrupt regime.
  
  Talking of corrupt régimes , he’s also being very gracious to the antagonist adern.
  
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  February 24, 2024 2:28pm
- Paul
  
  Luxon may be running a snow job on the Marxists and their embedded agenda.
  As always, look not at what they say, look at what they do.
  
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  February 24, 2024 9:16pm
NothingLeft

Trump Georgia Case: DA Fani Willis has been caught in obvious perjury snare as her testimony is contradicted by cell phone records and tracking data.

After the 2000 Mules movie how ignorant/stupid would she and her boyfriend have to be not to realise that they would immediately be caught out for lying?
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February 24, 2024 12:40pm
- virtualmark
  
  Nope. Her filing in response seems pretty clear. Her filing also raises a very interesting question about how Mike Roman got hold of her cellphone records, given you would typically need a warrant to do that and he is in no position to get one.
  
  Might also pay to stop referring to 2000 Mules. The group behind the allegations in that movie, True The Vote, was subpoenaed for the evidence they said stood behind their claims. In the end, after a lot of twisting and obfuscating, just last week they finally came out and said they didn’t have any such evidence. So basically it was all a big lie.
  
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  February 24, 2024 5:23pm
  - Paul
    
    Willis is goneburger. Case closed.
    
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    February 24, 2024 9:17pm
Jack5

The boom continues for technology company Nvidia, whose booming share price was discussed on Kiwiblog yesterday. The sharemarket value of the company has briefly topped $US2 trillion ( about three and a quarter trillion NZ dollars).

The Wall Street Journal says it took Nvidia’s first 24years as a public company for sharemarket value to reach $US1 trillion, and eight months to reach the second trillion. It’s now America’s third richest company. Microsoft and Apple are the richest.

The shares drifted down later in US Friday trading to $US788.18.

NVidia’s share-price surge is driven by demand for its chips in artificial-intelligence hardware.
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February 24, 2024 12:57pm
- NothingLeft
  
  They are riding a surge because the currently have fastest AI chips (H200), But AMD, Intel, Google, Amazon, Tesla, Apple, and many other are all coming up with competing designs and are hard on their heels and all of them (including Nvidia) outsource chip production to TMSC or Samsung (the real winners with cutting edge smallest feature size chip manufacturing) with Intel close behind.
  
  Their profit margin will ride high for another year or two, but then competition will return to the market, taking away their current enormous margins. Though volume of whole industry will increase a lot. Likely every home and car will want an AI supercomputer in 10 years to control their robotics and home entertainment.
  
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  February 24, 2024 3:16pm
  - mogg
    
    Interesting to see that Taiwanese are building a $5 B chip making plant in Texas.
    
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    February 24, 2024 3:41pm
    - Ghost
      
      Texas is popular
      
      https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/20/texas-becomes-chip-hub-with-47-billion-investment-from-samsung-and-ti.html
      
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      February 24, 2024 3:46pm
  - Taieri
    
    Likely every home and car will want an AI supercomputer in 10 years to control their robotics and home entertainment.
    ———–
    
    Once they install double glazed windows. Providing they can afford it of course…
    
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    February 24, 2024 5:28pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      It’s the AI robotic gardener I’m looking forward to.
      
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      February 24, 2024 5:55pm
- mogg
  
  JGGI are a good fund for international equities, 27% in tech including holding in Nvidia. Nvid are mostly owned by Blackrock & Vanguard who are both pushing Woke crap. Unfortunately jggi have just delisted from NZSX.
  
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  February 24, 2024 3:35pm
Maggie Pie

OK… I’m the first to admit that I might’ve used the term “bloody Asian drivers”
But honestly, how many of them are here on International-Drivers-Permits?

https://insiderpaper.com/hundred-car-collision-on-icy-china-road-causes-nine-injuries/
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February 24, 2024 1:28pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  First time in Alaska (2015), our Asian Thai friend picks us up at Anchorage airport.
  Out we go and she says “Look out Asian driver!”
  Thing is she can drive. It is around town and I’m going ‘slow down please’
  “It’s OK Papa, I am not speeding, it is 45 mph around town”
  Yes, Mickey did not get taught by a driving instructor – they really can’t drive, they have the rulebook though.
  
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  February 24, 2024 4:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Muriel Newman on Covid investigation.
She mentions Ardern – wonder why?

https://www.nzcpr.com/investigating-covid/#more-39124
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February 24, 2024 2:05pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  So it looks like there’s been some sloppy work by our Health statisticians about NZ’s excess deaths during the 2019-2023 covid outbreak.
  
  Cumulative excess deaths in New Zealand in the COVID-19 era: biases from ignoring changes in population growth rates
  
  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00779954.2024.2314770
  
  Just plain ignorance… or a deliberate attempt to mislead?
  
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  February 24, 2024 2:21pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Deliberate.
    One person wanted complete control and would control others to get it.
    There was a lot of advice coming from others which that person just followed (thick as two short planks)
    I am sure you know who was doing this controlling
    
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    February 24, 2024 4:49pm
Its only I

Self proclaimed billionaire Trump seems to be struggling to stump up the cash for his deformation case appeal and his civil fraud case.
He has just asked the judge to allow an unsecured stay…I guess Trump’s buddy Musk wasn’t interested in being Trumps bondsman?

Perhaps Puten can send a few Trumps way, at least more than the Chinese did at just 5 million…cheap insurance the GOP will keep working for Russian interests.
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February 24, 2024 2:24pm
- NothingLeft
  
  You outsource all your thinking to Media Matters then? (DNC propaganda factory who feed the preferred talking points to outlets like CNN, NBC etc)
  
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  February 24, 2024 3:06pm
  - Its only I
    
    No, not at all.
    
    Court papers are public. Trump wants another 30 days without having to put any money down. Simple fact.
    
    Comer Pyle and Jim used a Russian operative to upset an election after they were told the operative was unreliable. Simple fact.
    
    Trump received over 6.5 million in “gifts”. Simple republican supplied fact.
    
    Trump received considerable more but the amount embarrassed the GOP so the total was redacted, even though…
    
    The emoluments clause, also called the foreign emoluments clause, is a provision of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8) that generally prohibits federal officeholders from receiving any gift, payment, or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives.
    
    Its concerning Trump is burning up so much campaign money. The GOP is nearly broke while the Democrats made 45 million in one month.
    
    While Maga/Christian Nationalists run the party big donors are sitting on their hands/wallets….and votes apparently.
    
    The looney left is seen as a better alternative by independents, women and traditional republicans than the orange fascist…as votes keep showing despite the polls.
    
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    February 24, 2024 4:14pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      “U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8) that generally prohibits federal officeholders from receiving any gift, payment, or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives.”
      
      So can anyone add up how much the “10% for the Big Guy” is? That’s only if you know who the Big Guy is.
      Hint, it is not Mickey Mouse.
      While we are at it, how much has the Democrat Party paid to bankroll RINO Nikki Haley? Don’t tell me they are not doing that!!
      
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      February 25, 2024 4:30pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Mostly nonsense and/or lacking critical context. Given you are clearly trolling, really not worth my time to Fisk.
    
    But polling aggregates on RealClearPolitics tell the real story; Trump up 5% in popular vote and ahead in all the battleground states (and that without taking account of usual democrat polling bias revealed at elections as well as voter enthusiasm gap).
    
    After 8 years of unhinged propagandising shite from media no one other than tribal left puts any stock in them, particularly when they can daily see the tilted playing field and destructive anti-democratic corruption of the Democrats in service of oligarchs and promoted by their media lackies.
    
    Trump is a twat, but he’s the only game in town when it comes down to trying to stop the repressive and self-serving efforts of the bureaucratic elites who’s orwellian tendencies are going to see our children delivered to the gulag. The population can see that, and that’s why Trump will win (barring force majeur)
    
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    February 24, 2024 8:43pm
Maggie Pie

My partner has just arrived back with a New York Cheescake for our dessert.

To say he was fuming would be an understatement.
Drove home thru The Domain and couldn’t help but notice…. the Auckland-War-Memorial-Museum is flying a ‘Trans-Flag’ alongside the NZ Flag on top of the building!

As he said, “all this rainbow crap is getting worse by the day”
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February 24, 2024 2:48pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, the muslim crowd must have spasms when they sight that flag and how do they explain to their offspring when asked ‘why is that flag flying’?
  
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  February 24, 2024 3:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You can hear the father saying to his son…
    
    “In our own country Ali, we put our rooftops to far different uses”
    
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    February 24, 2024 4:10pm
Ghost

China has backed the right of the Palestinian people to use armed force to combat Israel’s occupation of their land, calling it an “an inalienable right well founded in international law”.

The comments on Thursday were made by the Chinese ambassador to the UN, Zhang Jun, during the fourth day of public hearings held by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague, Netherlands.

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February 24, 2024 3:30pm
- Inandout
  
  Ghost, I link who is on that ICJ, some from countries that have appalling track records on human rights.
  https://icj-cij.org/current-members
  
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  February 24, 2024 3:45pm
  - Ghost
    
    I expect china is just silently in the background watching the USA and NATO depleting their weapons in Ukraine and Gaza and looking at Taiwan
    
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    February 24, 2024 3:51pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    Brits are sending GBP 250 million of artillery shells. They will put the factory on a war footing.
    
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    February 24, 2024 6:52pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Not exactly, they have announced a 250m GBP investment in the factory making 155mm shells, they won’t all be going to Ukraine.
      Going into the third year of the Russo-Ukrainian war and the British government has written a cheque and made a statement that its single artillery ammunition production facility will be placed on a war time footing.
      There are massive problems all across the western military industrial production base, short of a miracle they won’t be solved for at least another generation.
      
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      February 24, 2024 8:42pm
- virtualmark
  
  So I guess that same principle should also apply to the people of Tibet?
  
  And perhaps one day to the Taiwanese too?
  
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  February 24, 2024 5:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Seems the crooked Democrats will be losing this.
Becoming more like a Punch and Judy Show.

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/declassified-fbi-documents-shed-new-light-on-j6-investigation-02-23-2024/?
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February 24, 2024 4:14pm
Maggie Pie

We’ve got really wonderful neighbors.
Everyone is sooo quite and tend to keep to themselves. Surrounded by high fences and trees on all boundaries. Don’t think we’ve even seen the old couple on our southern side since lockdown. But that’s how we all like it.

So can’t be too critical of others either….

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1761038087289733177
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February 24, 2024 5:13pm
- Taieri
  
  Everyone is sooo quite and tend to keep to themselves. Surrounded by high fences and trees on all boundaries.
  ———–
  
  This is what the politicians refer to these days as the “community”…
  
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  February 24, 2024 5:29pm
- Inandout
  
  I liked the X comment about Palestinians ‘come with a self destruct button’. No one wants them.
  
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  February 24, 2024 5:58pm
Ghost

I gave it a try and went back to DALL·E. Refused to create anything with aliens in it as it was against their rules.

Google is offering a mea culpa for its widely-panned artificial intelligence (AI) image generator that critics trashed for creating “woke” content, admitting it “missed the mark.”

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February 24, 2024 5:18pm
Maggie Pie

Thx to our wonderful Host, I learn sometning today on KB….

COFFEE spelled backwards is….. ‘EEFFOC’

Jusk know i don’t give eeffoc until i’ve had my coffee

LOL!!!
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February 24, 2024 6:31pm
Albie

Isn’t Susie Nordqvist on Newshub at 5:30 just the bees knees! Attractive, well spoken, no bar codes or greenstone necklaces, and best of all, no te reo!
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February 24, 2024 7:05pm
Swifty

“If the Maori cannot stand on his own two legs, let him fall.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_sCyWqlYZs

Maori have too many ‘friends’……..
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