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sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ehB8_SldjM
Leftist Professors at Universities are Panicking as Tenure ship Eliminated!
Leftist Professors at Universities are Panicking as Tenure ship Eliminated!
Dive into the fiery clash between Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and the University of Texas faculty over critical race theory. When Patrick urged colleges to disavow the teaching of critical race theory, UT faculty responded by defending their academic freedom. Patrick’s reaction? A resounding “go to h*ll.”
In a bold move, Patrick hinted at targeting the cherished perk of tenure for faculty members, suggesting it was time to hold them accountable for their views on race. This move reflects a broader trend seen in red states nationwide, where conservative officials are challenging academic freedoms under the guise of reining in liberal ideologies.
Join us as we explore the escalating tension between political forces and academic institutions, and the implications for educators’ autonomy. Stay tuned for more updates on this contentious debate as it unfolds in statehouses across the country. [Works for me. It should be eliminated everywhere.]
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February 22, 2024 8:02am
- dcrane
  
  The sole argument for tenure evaporated when university professors en masse joined the state in defending establishment narratives from Russiagate to censorship to “safe and effective”.
  
  Protection from being fired is supposed to free them to challenge state propaganda when elite institutions go off the rails.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:30am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, i agree. I didn’t realize we don’t have it here in NZ.
    
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    February 22, 2024 5:37pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7tD59YqdMY
Mark Patterson on the 100 Day Plan and how we can support our rural communities.
In this episode of FirstHand, the New Zealand First podcast, Mark Patterson discusses his return to Parliament, the Coalition Government’s 100 day plan, and how we can support our farmers and rural communities. [He’s being interviewed by another MP. Still, she’s doing a better job of it than the fake news.]
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February 22, 2024 8:03am
artemisia

There’s a continuous lizard brain zero-hero assessment. Sometimes the assessment surfaces, sometimes it just informs decisions a little bit (or a lot). Not hard to tell on what ends of that scale Mark Mitchell and Ginny Andersen register.
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February 22, 2024 8:03am
- CRM114
  
  The rubbish she came out with on ZB…our own MTG.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:26am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Bully Anderson is nowhere near the class of MTG. Also, MTG is not a rabid leftie.
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:40am
    - CRM114
      
      SO, correct she is a rabid rightie, rabid being the common denominator. Rabid right or left is equally repellant.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:25am
    - peterwn
      
      Just to clarify, it is spelt Andersen, as with her late unionist uncle.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:59am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Thanks DG.//
        
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        February 22, 2024 12:07pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Andersen has 2 choices, either:
  1. Privately apologise in full to Mitchell, then very publically repeat the apology (which will include the line, “I will not repeat the lies of Labour trolls”), and then slither away to hide in a dark corner; or
  2. Resign her seat in parliament.
  
  This is because this morning, Hosking (& NZME) are playing the Alistair Campbell podcast of the British diplomat who owes his life to the work of Mitchell in Iraq.
  
  So, Ginny & the Labour trolls, you are in a s**t hole all of your own making, apologise and take the public humiliation, else you’ll live a ground hog day that you’ll not be allowed to forget!
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    1. The left NEVER apologise, NEVER.
    Best example would be Ardern. Just blame someone else.
    What a pity Mark Mitchell can’t sue her arse.
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:43am
  - wsk12345
    
    Are you able to provide a link? I can’t find it anywhere on iHeart…. Has it not been yet as I think Hoskings is just the early show of the day?
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:11am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I still think this was a planned hit job, Hipkins says on some of her words she went too far, I bet they were you were paid to shoot people, he was fine with everything else she said, no reprimand, no I have spoken with her, he is as rotten as her
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:15am
- Scooter
  
  I’d say her emotions got the better of her. She basically got shamed by Mark (and Mike). Mike questioned her over Labour’s lack of real world work experience and not owning their own businesses. She said her overseas experience was 3 years working in bars waitressing, wow. She knew they were right and became extremely defensive over it and had to attack Mark. A shameful display by a politician. After Jacinda I’d say this is another notch in the belt for Mike.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:39am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Politics Wednesday on Newstalk ZB will be interesting next week. As per my previous comment, will it be Mark Mitchell and ?????????
    Ginny? (will she front?)
    Megan?
    Another Labour MP?
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:40am
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    Cynically, I suspect Hipkins is being nuance d in his ‘she went too far’ comment.
    Mitchell’s past will have been a much-discussed attack point to pull out at some point. Ginny is not some rogue Mark Mitchell obsessive who has been digging through his past without anyone in the party having the foggiest.
    Where Hipkins will think she went too far is going full screaming fishwife while attacking Mitchell. He would have preferred a more stealthily, snide and sly performance, as Kieran ‘Something of the night about him’ McAnulty would have delivered.
    
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    February 22, 2024 7:16pm
- nathie
  
  Could the same assessment be said of the MSM and where they register?
  
  Last night FakeNewsHub at 6pm stated on a number of occasions that Andersen apologised to Mitchell. They also said Mitchell wouldn’t accept her apology (as if he was the bad guy and therefore she was the better person).
  
  Did anyone see if TVNZ managed to do a better job?
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:42am
  - sirknz
    
    Sorry, I don’t tend to watch anything on any of the broadcast networks.
    
    Two reasons.
    
    1. I hate being advertised at.
    2. I hate being lied to.
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:39am
    - David Garrett
      
      Sirk: Two excellent reasons old boy!
      
      Up here there are two extra reasons for avoiding broadcast TV:
      
      1. It is (mostly) all in Tongan; and
      
      2. It is mostly Tongan and/or American religious shouting.
      
      So it’s down to the Gentlemen’s club for the BBC and the Premier league for me.
      
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      February 22, 2024 11:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “a number of occasions”?
    So she lies and insults quite often then?
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:46am
  - rouppe
    
    She apparently sent Mitchell a text, content unknown.
    
    Hipkins said she “crossed a line”, and I got some feeling that the text she would have sent Mitchell would have been along the lines of “crossed a line which I shouldn’t have”.
    
    In any case, Mitchell just said “a text isn’t the way to do it” which is quite right. Public accusation, public apology
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:26am
  - hullkiwi
    
    As of this morning, Andersen has not apologised!
    
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    February 22, 2024 1:06pm
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Hey Ginny, you were paid to bully young Labour supporters. What’s your body count?
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:38am
Clyde

I hope that others on this blog make a formal complaint to TVNZ that they ignored the Anderson story thus showing a lack of balance and also write to Anderson and Hipkins to express disgust at her outrageous statements about Mitchell.

Talking to each other on a blog doesn’t fix things.
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February 22, 2024 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Talking to TVNZ doesn’t fix things either. They just ignore it.
  Try the Broadcasting Standards Authority – but the very first complaint must go to the broadcaster.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:50am
  - Clyde
    
    TVNZ did not carry the story on One News. The response from the broadcaster is that not carrying a story is their prerogative. To not carry a story that one MP made such outrageous accusations against another WHILE OUTSIDE THE HOUSE and on a radio station with hundreds of thousands listening is nothing other than selective bias.
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:01am
  - rouppe
    
    You have to make a complaint to the agency first before BSA to show you’ve tried to deal with it through their channels.
    
    I complained to TVNZ about the piece that called National white supremacists, akin to KKK, and all the other garbage.
    
    The response was not breaching standards. Haven’t got around to complaining to BSA yet
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:29am
- Ghost
  
  One carried the Ginny story online. Last night was more about Efeso. But at the end of the day there is nothing to complain about, you can’t lay a formal complaint because they didn’t broadcast a story. It’s up to them what they report on.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:03am
  - dcrane
    
    Except that selective silence is becoming a key mechanism for protecting state narratives.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:34am
    - Ghost
      
      Then don’t watch it. It’s that simple. Turn your tv off. More the that do the less viewership and advertisers take note of the viewership numbers.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:36am
      - dcrane
        
        Fine for private corporations. But not for state-funded ones, or for private corporations being directed by the state through backhanded means such as those revealed in the Twitter Files.
        
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        February 22, 2024 10:48am
      - Ghost
        
        Tvnz are funded by advertising. One news is funded by advertising. Turn them off, their ratings will drop and so will the advertisers
        
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        February 22, 2024 8:25pm
    - Stellaboxer
      
      It’s called censorship by omission
      
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      February 22, 2024 8:18pm
- pdm
  
  Clyde I complained to TVNZ yesterday about the cricket being played in some unknown place called Whanganui a Tara and not at `The Cake Tin’ in Wellington as advertised.
  
  I further pointed out that the Maorification Agenda for New Zealand is over.
  
  Automated reply only as of now.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They will use Collins death as an excuse
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:32am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The border is unchecked so the terrorists flow in.
Joe is destroying the US.

https://www.thepoliticalglobe.com/unchecked-borders-the-escalating-crisis-as-military-age-syrian-men-enter-san-diego-02-21-2024/?
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February 22, 2024 8:18am
- imalwaysright
  
  S.O
  
  There is talk of offering the illegal immigrants the opportunity to serve in the US military.
  
  America is being invaded.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:50am
  - Gin and Sonic
    
    British Army is doing the same to tick the diversity boxes. There is a media advert running in Britain showing army solders, looking all theatrically very military with guns etc and looking on approvingly whilst a Muslim solder dutifully kneels in prayer just beside them and the ad beseeches that the British military is all about everyone joining them.
    
    Interestingly, I was at a diplomatic event in Singapore just before Covid struck and was talking to a very drunk army major, where military service is compulsory, who openly told me that the Singapore military is very wary of its Indian-Muslim population getting any higher rank than Major due to very good evidence that their loyalty was to Islam first, not to Singapore. Hmmmm!
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:01am
    - Jack5
      
      Meanwhile Turkey continues its persecution of Christians.
      
      After the genocide of Armenians and the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Christian Greeks from the coastal cities that had been Greek for millennia, Turkey has reduced the Christian proportion of its population from 20 to 25 per cent in 1914 to 0.2 per cent now.
      
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      February 22, 2024 2:17pm
- Its only I
  
  Trump just had a town hall type rally where he said he torpedoed the bipartisan border deal because it would help the democrats.
  So that means many things…
  Real republicans got everything they wanted.
  Both sides would have signed off on the deal.
  Every single agency wanted the deal
  All these illegals are ok by Trump for another year.
  Trump just nuked his campaign for real republican and independent support.
  
  Then we get to the latest presidential rankings.
  Trump shows LAST, the worst president of all time.
  That is Not entirely correct though, take out the democrat vote and he jumps up to 41 st worst…but add back the independants its 45 again.
  
  Trump is not a republican by real republican standards.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:53am
  - All_on_Red
    
    The deal would have still allowed 5000 illegal immigrants a day to come through.
    Which is clearly unacceptable
    And Biden can solve the issue with an Executive Order so doesnt need Congress or the Senate
    Do try to keep up
    Lol
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:38am
    - Its only I
      
      Incorrect
      
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      February 22, 2024 9:46am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        “MIKE JOHNSON: I told President Biden this myself on multiple occasions, most recently a couple of weeks ago on the phone. I read him the law that says that he has all this authority, but he refuses to act.”
        
        https://www.npr.org/2024/02/12/1230835944/house-speaker-johnson-insists-biden-can-close-the-border-with-an-executive-order
        
        The fact that it has never been done before is irrelevant.
        
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        February 22, 2024 9:54am
      - All_on_Red
        
        No its not
        They have to reach 5000 encounters a day before they can start deporting
        ‘The emergency authority would give border agents the power to immediately turn away any migrants they encounter at the border without hearing their asylum claims. This would go into effect when the number of encounters surpasses a certain threshold: either an average of 5,000 per day over the course of a week, or 8,500 in a single day.’
        You need better sources
        LOL
        
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        February 22, 2024 10:00am
      - Its only I
        
        Incorrect.
        Biden needs the money to place the resources to close the border, maga house rats block anything and everything.
        Most of what Trump tried was ruled by republican judges to be unlawful.
        
        Trump’s own words from his own mouth stated he killed the deal because it would help the democrats.
        Why would say that if it was a bad deal?
        Why were the real republicans happy they got everything they wanted?
        Trump needs this border chaos to run on as the abortion thing and the Biden impeachment has backfired and exposed links to russian operatives.
        
        Just the way it is.
        
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        February 22, 2024 10:39am
    - bjools
      
      5000 per day is 1.8 million per year.
      He has just “legitimized” problem, not fixed it.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:28am
    - virtualmark
      
      If the President apparently has all this authority to address the border issues then two simple questions:
      1) Why didn’t Trump do just that when he was President?
      2) Who would pay for it, given that Congress has to approve any funding?
      
      Simple answers to simple questions:
      1) Trump didn’t do it because the Courts ruled that the law (pesky thing) doesn’t actually give the President the power that Moses Mike thinks they have.
      2) It couldn’t be funded, because Congress would have to approve the funding.
      
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      February 22, 2024 1:10pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Who would pay? Mexico would pay. Now the left have trouble comprehending that.
        Now AMLO was never going to write out a cheque and give it to Trump (which is what the brain dead and media came up with.)
        Once the drug trafficking and human trafficking and murdering was stopped, the cartels would suffer, and the US would not get so much fentanyl and coke coming across. It saves lives and families.
        So the business stopped, or was slowed down a huge amount (but the left can’t comprehend that.)
        Mexico would pay in the end and have to find new clients.
        
        Look out Steve, incoming low flying bullshit in 3, 2, 1.
        
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        February 22, 2024 4:18pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You really mean Trump is not a RINO, he is a Patriot!
    
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    February 22, 2024 1:02pm
- Jethrod
  
  Similar to what is happening in NZ
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:54am
- kevn
  
  SteveO… Noticed very few women or children crossing illegally into the US? What has happened to them?
  People traffickers are at work inflicting mega misery.
  Like in the movie.
  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7599146/
  
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  February 22, 2024 12:09pm
  - Keith White
    
    If these alleged ‘men’ had any guts or stickability or masculinity in them, they’d stay home and be trying to improve their own countries – or at the very least bringing their women and children with them to improve their family’s lives as well as their own.
    
    So either they aren’t the people that you want in your country because they will never be anything more than a bunch of useless criminal troughers sucking up $$$ from other people’s hard work – or they are military-aged and -trained men (and a few women – reference the Chinese sniper chick a few days back) deliberately infiltrating the US to rerun October 7 in the United States.
    
    I don’t see a third option for this mass invasion.
    
    We are really lucky we do not have a land border. Planes and boats are bad enough, but at least lower volumes of invaders.
    
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    February 22, 2024 2:09pm
    - mawm
      
      Keith – I suspect that in many dark corners of the US these foreign men are being trained to kill Americans as the government/Deep State can’t rely on the army to kill Americans.
      
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      February 22, 2024 5:52pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The women are at home making sandwiches.
    The men want to destroy the American Dream.
    
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    February 22, 2024 4:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Prof John Raine discusses the toxic mess of DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) spreading from our Universities.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/john-raine-it-is-time-to-resist-a-new-totalitarianism
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February 22, 2024 8:18am
- Yabster
  
  Good article- problem is I can’t see this changing anytime soon- just look at Otago Uni -DEI central.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:26am
- Grunter
  
  The DEI idiocy has wrecked our Universities and a lot of our schools. Prof John Raine accurately compares NZ to Germany 100 years ago (remember Einstein fled Germany well before WWII).
  
  I suspect our Universities are too far gone already to come back from this. And they will be financially destroyed (already happening) as Asian students won’t pay to come here to be told they are “non-Maori” so they don’t get special privileges.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:00am
  - Jack5
    
    Woke-ism in the West in some ways resembles what was happening in Germany in the 1920s.
    
    In NZ’s case that includes our MMP electoral system, modelled on post-WW2 Germany’s. That was changed from the 1920s model largely by adding the 5 per cent threshold for election.
    
    What could follow Woke-ism is more scary than irrational Woke views and actions today.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “non-Maori” so they don’t get special privileges.
    
    Ouch!
    
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    February 22, 2024 4:42pm
CRM114

Ginny Anderson, once again showing her nastiness and low character. smh
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February 22, 2024 8:23am
Maggie Pie

PEDO’S IN OUR MIDST 🙁

New Lynn has always been a Labor stronghold up until the last election.
Let’s hope new National MP Paulo Garcia will bring long overdue changes to the Hood.

https://tinyurl.com/4tf68478
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February 22, 2024 8:24am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  That cultural motif tattoo on one of the doll’s shoulders was seriously cute though…
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:50am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You’re right there Suze. It’s on the white dude as well 😀
    And I’d have liked to see the Maori fulla wearing a cowboy hat.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:01am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      And with a bullwhip…?
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:37am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Well a condom anyway 😀
        
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        February 22, 2024 11:15am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Celtic triskele
    
    https://celticdesignscotland.com/collections/triskele#
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:33am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      Yes, I’ve got one on my left buttock
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:39am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Cheers,
        I might be able to identify you if you turn up at Kiwa pools….
        
        (tho, I’m not really in the habit of perving at ladies’ bums… but I’m often fascinated by some folks’ tattoos….)
        
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        February 22, 2024 1:28pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Lol!
        
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        February 22, 2024 8:22pm
- Scooter
  
  So they want to be all “inclusive” brown and white dolls, but really how many guys actually look as buff as those dolls. Maybe they should model one on Grant’s physique. Haha they even have tats, it’s a sick world we live in.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:03am
- Yabster
  
  two down votes -def in our mist
  
  the brochure is almost designed to be offensive- one topic headed “Fucking”-. It should be nowhere near children.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Body Positive need to be hauled over the coals for allowing their material to be left lying around. Someone is responsible. I don’t object to the material being used for it’s designed use, but for kids? Nope. Own up whoever left it out.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:38am
  - Ghost
    
    Nothing really to do with them. They put the booklet out, the council staff have decided where to display it. That would be like blaming playboy for where a shop displays their magazine.
    
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    February 22, 2024 12:19pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      “Allowing” Ghost. They should have some control over who leaves the books out.
      Playboy! Baaa. They don’t display the center pages! Most would be in sealed plastic bags.
      Body Positive are responsible in my mind.
      
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      February 22, 2024 1:07pm
      - Ghost
        
        No they’re not, they are just the publisher of the book. Where the council staff have placed the book isn’t up to them. Body positive didn’t even know that centre had the booklets on display
        
        Place blame where it belongs, and that is the centre staff
        
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        February 22, 2024 2:59pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        OK Ghost. Correct – the center Staff.
        
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        February 22, 2024 4:53pm
- Ghost
  
  Pedo’s because a book on aids was left where people could view it. More like a screw up and nothing more.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:39am
Simon

NZ as a satellite state of GAE does NZ parliament have any responsibility to inform GAE that Biden is senile. Its obvious of course to everyone. But as a humble satellite should NZ formerly report to GAE?
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February 22, 2024 8:26am
Paulus

Ginny Anderson assumes that she holds the Labour Party as she is descended from her Great Uncle Bill Anderson, the left wing unionist and political activist.
He was trouble personified year ago in all Union matters.
Now she should be in serious Labour shit street, but Chippy will tell her off sweetly, and she will tell him she still wants his job asap, so Foxtrot behind closed doors.
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February 22, 2024 8:29am
- Sacha
  
  When Great Uncle Bill was prominent in the Labour Party, we didn’t have the media saturation we have today, you had to read a newspaper and look at the photos to catch up with his Union antics. The result was that while everyone knew the name and what a rabble-rouser within the Union he was, he didn’t have the audience that TV and the internet afford such people today.
  Ginny Anderson should be sacked.
  Today.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:24am
  - David Garrett
    
    Ginny Anderson should be sacked.
    Today.
    
    And how pray, could that occur? No-one can “sack” an MP, although they can be expelled from their party and be forced to go independent. And that is certainly not going to happen in this case.
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:18am
JC60

Stuff headline this morning: “Why Would Chris Hipkins appear with Sean Plunket on The Platform?” By the same logic, why would Christopher Luxon appear with Lloyd Burr on The AM Show?
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February 22, 2024 8:30am
- imalwaysright
  
  Burr dresses like a junior staffer on a Latvian cruise ship.
  
  His party trick is when a physical mens sport is mentioned he instantly informs everyone that he knows nothing about it.
  
  I assume he is prompting us to remember he is gay and Lloyd sees such activities as outside a gay mans purview.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:42am
  - Jack5
    
    IAR, sorry to be ignorant and old, but what the significance of “Latvia” in relation to cruise ship?
    
    The “new biggest” cruise ship, the Icon of the Seas, was built in a neighbouring country, Finland.
    
    There are cruises to the Baltic, but that would be one step from a cruise to the Arctic.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:39am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Jack,
      Apology accepted.
      
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      February 22, 2024 11:03am
    - Taieri
      
      There are no cruise ships registered in Latvia.
      As for standards of dress in that country…far higher than anything that can be seen in NZ.
      
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      February 22, 2024 11:08am
  - Paulus
    
    Oh don’t Llody is a lovely fella !
    What a smile, umm !
    
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    February 22, 2024 2:27pm
- ecco
  
  Plunket would have loved the free advertising from Stuffed. They fell right into his trap😂.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:46am
- ecco
  
  It’s a shame $$tuffed doesn’t have the balls to open up the article to commenting🤣🤣🤣
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:13am
nathie

After Ginny Andersen’s appalling behavior yesterday against Mark Mitchell, should “we” (eg MSM) be shining a light on the bullying allegations made against her last year by her staffers?

Granted, some would say that staffers (even young staffers) perhaps ought to “toughen up” as “that’s life”.

But what if Andersen’s bullying of her staffers were based on falsehoods, as we witnessed yesterday as she continuously attacked Mitchell’s character using these falsehoods?

Imagine being yelled at (as a staffer) by Anderson, spouting total bullshit, knowing that she knows she is spouting BS … and that she is enjoying the power trip?

So should the MSM be revisiting her bullying of staffers?

And should Andersen resign as a MP?

Like past National MP’s that have resigned after displaying inappropriate behavior (eg Aaron Gilmore comes to mind).

What does Labour leader Hipkins have to say about the integrity of one of his MP’s, who has been caught out again but this time in full view of the public?
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February 22, 2024 8:30am
- Paulus
  
  Why do you think little Chippy is capable of handling Andersen – ask one McNulty bully to do it.
  He is experienced remember as Labour Whipppp !
  
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  February 22, 2024 2:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder what type of staff have been made redundant at Health NZ

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/more-than-500-staff-made-redundant-at-te-whatu-ora-paid-out-9-million/JUYFRDLC5NAT5LJ6YFNUHIZI4A/

Have we lost 500 back-room bureaucrats.. or have we lost front-line technicians, nurses, doctors?
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February 22, 2024 8:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Re-deploying staff changes zilch. They just do nothing somewhere else.
  500 made redundant? Make is 5000. Those on the floor doing the real work (nurses, doctors, radiologists, orderlies, specialists) should not be reduced. Admin is the problem. North Shore Hospital is fantastic, until Admin get your file.
  “the number of patients waiting more than a year for routine surgeries had fallen from 12,000 to 600.” 12,000 to 600 my left tit. To me that means 11,400 have been booted off the waiting list. I think I will be one of the 11,400.
  I have been waiting for rotor cuff surgery for nearly 3 years – to the extent of being kicked off the waiting list so Labour could make the numbers look good.
  Who has that catalogue of bridges for sale? I want to send it to Shane Reti. It is clear that he is being lied to.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:14am
  - Northshoredoc
    
    I’d suggest having it done privately Steve.
    
    As you’ve correctly pointed out the public system drop cases like this off the waiting list to prioritise cases deemed more urgent, problem being if a tendon tear is left too long the tendon retracts and loses elasticity.
    
    The muscle attached to the tendon undergoes fatty atrophy. This means the muscle fibres are replaced with fat. This fatty degeneration of the muscle is irreversible. This means you cannot rebuild this muscle even if the tendon is successfully attached.
    
    Sorry to be the bearer of poor news – like you the years are catching up to me in terms of bits and pieces no longer working as well as they used to.
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:30am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It is not priority, it is Admin keeping the numbers lower.
      You are right about the tendon being left too long. That should get me higher up the list. Recovery is a long time.
      Right now I do not even use my boat. I am not able to swim so not silly enough to take risks. I enjoy dropping anchor and swimming to the beach.
      Going private means digging into our holiday nest egg.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:10am
  - MCōs
    
    Would Dr Reti be better off putting all his skills to use practicing medicine with all his training and leaving politics to politicians?
    Very few of the previous Ministers of Health came from a medical background
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:59am
    - Dougal10
      
      And therein lies the problem politicians playing in fields they know nothing about and are bullied by the ministries.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:12am
      - Ghost
        
        One of the best health ministers we’ve had was Tony Ryall
        
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        February 22, 2024 10:18am
      - Bobba Fret
        
        Yes exactly, like Grant Robertson being Finance Minister, something he knows nothing about.
        
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        February 22, 2024 10:48am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Shane Reti has had his feet on the ground for ages…
        Remember Labour got very upset when Reti did a few little unannounced visits to EDs.
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/how-health-nz-responded-to-dr-shane-retis-19-unauthorised-ed-visits/DZJLGETFWNF3TCWKO6LQMEJ6EU/
        
        Here’s His backstory…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ONa_zCDeg
        
        I can’t see him doing a worse job than Andrew Little did as Minister of Health
        
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        February 22, 2024 10:51am
      - Jack5
        
        Shane Reti’s “unannounced visits” to hospital emergency departments entailed him spending whole nights with them.
        
        This is the sort of MP we need.
        
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        February 22, 2024 4:07pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      He needs to get the firing stick out.
      You’re fired, FIRED!!
      He would have a field day sacking the bloated Health workers and nobody would notice.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:20am
      - Cantabrian
        
        Unfortunately Ministers have no power to dismiss employees.
        
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        February 22, 2024 11:11am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yes no power, but they can lean on Department leaders.
        
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        February 22, 2024 1:09pm
  - rouppe
    
    Interestingly, I went to the GP about something and went “oh, by the way, want to check these moles out?”
    
    Thought one was def melanoma so did a biopsy on both. Results back in 7-10 days. One confirmed melanoma. Wanted to do it himself but after a large scar from the last time a GP cut me I said I want a dermatologist to do it.
    
    Referred to public in Hutt Hospital, appointment confirmed 5 days later, surgery on Tuesday.
    
    I was astonished, as I thought I’d have to go private.
    
    But I am still not even on a waiting list for an angiogram.
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:40am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Incompetent bludgers cleaned out! Women and minorities hardest hit.
  
  Nah of course not. Protected classes of back office drones will be the last to go.. let’s be realistic. The health system is run by and for the administrators.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:16am
Warren

Labour should have learnt years ago that our can’t fudge any numbers concerning the unemployed because in the end it will come back to bite you.
The latest numbers of those on a jobseekers benifit is 172,546 almost 52,000 more than when Labour took office 6 years ago.
It’s concerning to see the numbers of New Zealander’s increasing eight of the nine weeks reaching the highest level in a year, thatsa extra 4,713 New Zealander’s on jobseekers in 9 weeks.
And our politically corrupt media still fawn overour former politically corrupt Government and Labour Leader Chris Hipkins that were more concerned about themselves than ordinary New Zealander’s, and Newshubs Jenna Lynch, Lloyd Burr, and TV Hosts on the Newsstill get away with misinformation and lies on a dailly basis in their abuse of The Prime Minister when he mentions,those abusing the benefit.
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February 22, 2024 8:49am
- Beach Haven expat
  
  But but but Grant saved lives and kept everyone in a job during Covid. Chris Hipkins told me so. Just this week.
  
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  February 22, 2024 7:25pm
greenfinger

Why should the other 2.4 million hardworking kiwi battlers bother trying when 189,000 leaches out there choose to sponge off the rest of us. Another legacy of Ardern, Robertson and Hipkins. Can you imagine what Robertson would be preaching when he start his $700k cushy little number down in Dunedin?
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February 22, 2024 8:51am
- MCōs
  
  I used to be a ‘hardworking Kiwi battler’ and a ‘rate paying struggler’
  Now I’m just the latter
  I never gave myself ulcers fuming about who was ripping off the system, and that’s a lot more people than just some lazy beneficiaries
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:17am
  - ecco
    
    You obviously didn’t pay enough tax to feel that wasting tax payers funds was an issue. Just saying.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:43am
    - MCōs
      
      Wasting tax is always an issue, but I’m not sending myself to an early grave stewing over it
      
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      February 22, 2024 11:14am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    They are reducing your standard of living whether you get ulcers or not.
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He would be preaching what a good job he and Ardern did to NZ, to all of the Marxists!
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:24am
Maggie Pie

PM Chris Luxon

https://twitter.com/NewstalkZB/status/1760371809839448090
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to paraphrase….

“109,000 Bludgers on Jobseeker welfare for more than a year”

– there, I said it.
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February 22, 2024 8:53am
- pdm
  
  A shame Christopher Luxon does not spit out the same language as you MP.
  
  Are you available to give him lessons? Maybe he will give up learning Te Reo for said plain speaking lessons. It surely be of more value to our country.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:14am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I have no problem with him learning Te Reo as long as he pays for his own tuition.
    
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    February 22, 2024 9:20am
    - Cassandra
      
      On the contrary, Luxon learning Maori is a good idea. He’ll never be fluent but in the right circumstances eg on a marae, he’ll pronounce Maori words correctly and therefore might just persuade some more Maori to stop being lefty bludgers. The sooner the Maori roll drops the sooner we’ll get rid of racist separatism.
      
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      February 22, 2024 9:26am
    - pdm
      
      Agreed Chuck and Cass – but a bit of plain speaking would do him no harm either and he is, or should be, a busy man.
      
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      February 22, 2024 9:30am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Taxpayer pays. $4150 according to RNZ on the google machine.
      
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      February 22, 2024 10:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He is not going too call people bludgers, but he did call the 109000 for not looking for work if they have not had an interview or go to a job fair in a whole year
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:50am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Trouble is public transport to get to jobs. My partner is on the jobseeker payment. She can not get a job at 64. Last application was a bakery in Newmarket. 4am start. So there are no buses at that hour of the morning from the Shore. Another was in Kumeu, 3 buses. Who wants to spend 4-5 hours a day to do an 8 hour job? Winz have the cheek to say public transport is not a valid excuse.
  7 months and my partner retires!
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:22am
sirknz

Assholes exist online. Women most affected.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/waikato-councillors-mayors-speak-out-on-abuse/YRTI5AP2BBGDNGED4RBCU2ANKE/

I take it that none of them have acknowledged the similar levels of abuse that their male counterparts have received.

There was a mathematical formula that described this behaviour that went something like this: (distance + anonymity) * keyboard=instant online asshole
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February 22, 2024 8:58am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There are some nasty types in that Council. Julian Batchelor has tangled with some over venues for Stop Co-Governance meetings. Them and Taupo. Free Speech Union has taken up the task.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:34am
Maggie Pie

Time for Chloe and the rest of those Green quarter-wits to ditch their Keffiyehs…

NYT REPORTS:

Gazans scream “Down with Hamas”
and tell it’s leaders to “f**k off”

https://trib.al/lddfsBN
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February 22, 2024 9:24am
My-Gumboot

Well you don’t see this everyday.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/509689/police-seize-multiple-motorbikes-amid-tangi-for-waikato-gang-member

“Police will continue to take enforcement action where offending is identified.
“Everyone in the community has the right to be safe and feel safe.”
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February 22, 2024 9:25am
I remember when

Why is the answer always “speed?”

Nine crashes, nine deaths on Hawke’s Bay roads in nine weeks: Police boss urges drivers to lower speeds: HB Today.

Four involved motorcyclists. Two collided with another vehicle, one hit parked truck and fourth on country road.
One involved another vehicle at a rural intersection.
One in a four vehicle crash, two were trucks, in poor visibility on Expressway.
A Mobility Scooter and vehicle collided.
Car hit fence opposite Marewa Shopping Centre.
Final crash was inside Napier city boundaries.

Is it time the police started advising on other causes of accidents.
Were those involved observing the existing speed limits at the time of the accident?
What road rules were not being followed?
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February 22, 2024 9:36am
- Waipuk
  
  It’s an easy sound bite.
  
  Speed is always a factor. Too fast, too slow. Anything 0 kmph and above is a factor.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:30am
- kevn
  
  I remeb… Drugs a component? Plenty of stoners driving out there plus drivers fiddling with their phones.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:55am
- pdm
  
  If my memory is right the Mobility Scooter person rode out in front of the vehicle that hit them.
  
  A couple of the others were not driving to the conditions – one was probably the four vehicle crash on the expressway.
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:02am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Don’t forget the race to the bottom which is owning the biggest super-sized assault-wagon (aka SUV) on the road.
  
  These bloated vanity “vehicles” which cater to narcissism and entitlement, disproportionately maim and kill other road users.
  
  Feeling high and mighty, the drivers of these vehicles are commonly seen speeding, queue jumping, attempting to bully other drivers, and other assorted A-hole behaviours (EG texting while driving at 110kmph behind dark tinted glass. Something I’ve witnessed first hand).
  
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  February 22, 2024 6:57pm
Maggie Pie

And here’s something I ment to bring up earlier…..
has anyone else in the group been checking-the-numbers on the bottom of their
plastic bottles and containers before disposing of them into the Council Recycle Bins?
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February 22, 2024 9:49am
- rangitoto
  
  I would never do that.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:59am
  - MCōs
    
    It’s all a bit tedious isn’t it
    
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    February 22, 2024 12:12pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Do you guys use the little ‘Food Scrap’ bin, cossie?
      
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      February 22, 2024 12:15pm
- dcrane
  
  They’re dreaming if they think they’re gonna get most people to take the little lids off the bottles. Or, for that matter, the annoying plastic ring the bottle lid often leaves behind??
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  1, 2, and 5. Today I put out a washing machine agitator. There was no number
  on it but it would be 3, PVC.
  It has gone.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:55am
rangitoto

Judging by the overnight first day of Formula 1 testing for 2024, Formula 1 fans are going to get to know the Dutch national anthem exceptionally well. Newey has done it again.
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February 22, 2024 9:50am
- virtualmark
  
  Probably right, but it is just the first day of testing. Most of the day would have been spent on checking correlations with the wind tunnels and CFD, and checking things like engine & brake cooling. Many teams would do that at low engine modes. And there’ll be a wide range of fuel loads too. And most drivers will have been told that under no circumstance are they to crash the car, so it’s mainly 8-9 out of 10 levels of effort.
  
  We’ll have a better idea once we wake up on Saturday morning (the teams will do quali simulations on Friday in Bahrain).
  
  And we’ll have an even better idea at the end of the Bahrain GP qualifying next Sunday morning.
  
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  February 22, 2024 1:17pm
Grunter

Today marks the second and final day in what could very well be Julian Assange’s last extradition trial in front of the British High Court.

“Julian Assange is not a spy. Nor is he a terrorist or some Democratic or Republican operative. He is a journalist who foresaw the internet’s potential to empower and protect whistleblowers (the anonymous submission system that Assange and his peers envisioned is now standard across the news industry).”

“If Assange’s journalism is a crime, so is much of the journalism at the New York Times, the Associated Press, and every other major outlet in the country.”

https://mises.org/wire/outrageous-persecution-julian-assange
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February 22, 2024 9:51am
- virtualmark
  
  Wikileaks leaked the NSA “Vault 7” information, so there’s an Espionage Act crime straight away.
  
  More pertinently Wikileaks leaked the Afghanistan war logs without properly redacting the names of Afghanis who had cooperated with the US forces. The Taliban then hunted down and killed many of those Afghanis.
  
  So Assange is rightly in the gun, and the US has a righteous case to seek his extradition.
  
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  February 22, 2024 1:23pm
- miltonF
  
  What do people think about the current court case the Ecuadorian govt is taking against the USA govt and CIA?
  
  Apparently they got caught placing bugs in the Ecuadorian embassy, along with taking illegal copies of electronic devices going in and out of the embassy. It is an act of espionage against a foreign country.
  
  I think it’s strange that they’re going after Assange for the same behaviour that they carry out every day….
  
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  February 22, 2024 7:48pm
ecco

Has anyone read that article on nzh about these chief execs from three waters getting those huge redundancies? Another example of inept handling of a policy enacted that Ardern and Labour never even campaigned on.

Someone like the taxpayers union or act should start a website doing a running tally of all the wasted tax payer money the Labour government just threw down the toilet. It’s pretty much in any area that they touched. In particular the Covid response, co governance initiatives, botched infrastructure policies, health department restructuring and on and on.

Truly galling for any tax payer working their arse off, not least of all this household paying over 6 figures in tax. No wonder so many NZers are voting with their feet and moving out of nz if they at all can. No reflection on the incoming coalition government but you’d have to wonder if nz can be adequately repaired with the Herculean efforts that will be required.
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February 22, 2024 9:54am
- Waipuk
  
  It was deliberate.
  
  As everyone knew the exec roles were temporary so the salaries and redundancy packages had to be huge to attract anyone.
  
  And to make it as painful as possible to dismantle.
  
  It’s not their money. It’s a game.
  
  It’s politics.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:39am
  - ecco
    
    Naively I thought this sort of thing only happened in developing/ third world countries. The Labour Party have taken it to a new level in nz, the latest being the rigged appointment of Robertson to Otago Uni.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:47am
    - stiff cheese
      
      Why did Otago University employ Robertson?…. Are they hoping he can bail them out of their financial hole?
      
      By calling on his past experience at borrowing vast sums of money, he could sell ‘Otago Uni Bonds’ to his ol’ mate at the Reserve Bank (Orr) who’ll credit into existence the required amount of new money for their bank account. Is that the plan?
      
      I mean, Grant has a proven record, in a Labour government, of riding the “Bond Selling + Money Creation” merry-go-round together with chief money alchemist, Adrian Orr.
      
      Could that ol’ magic be revived !
      
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      February 22, 2024 11:27am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Why did Otago University employ Robertson?…
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        Look at who appointed the University Council.
        
        You scratch my back…
        
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        February 22, 2024 8:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Another reason for her to head for the hills.
  It was all going to come back to her, and she is a coward.
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:00am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Showdown Part 5.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/a-showdown-is-coming-part-5/
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February 22, 2024 10:18am
Chuck Bird

Is NZ’s position that Gaza should become an independent state realistic?

I doubt if Israel would ever agree. If Gaza was independent it could get long range accurate missiles from Iran.
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February 22, 2024 10:22am
- Paulus
  
  Sadly I am not sure that Hamas will release any live hostages, which is why Israel will not agree to any ceasefire – nether will Hamas as they are getting all the publicity by the pernicious rest of the world media.
  
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  February 22, 2024 2:40pm
Matt Long

Sadly NZME’s profit has halved, I wonder if the decision to be advocates for the regressive left was a sound one.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/509750/nzme-profit-halves-after-drop-in-revenue
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February 22, 2024 10:23am
- Grunter
  
  All due to a drop in revenues from NZ Herald (ZB revenues “stable”).
  
  Just admit it…”The NZ Herald has seen a big drop in advertising because our readership is down. This is because we have taken a very hard-left woke view of the world so our traditional readers have left us in droves….”
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:54am
- Inandout
  
  ML, I would assume Hosking’s slot attracts the top advertisers. A plus for a struggling NZME.
  
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  February 22, 2024 12:12pm
Cassandra

Interesting that our local National MP San Uffindell in his newsletter to Tauranga residents lists “Building relationships with iwi” as one of his activities yet has never visited our 400 house retirement village other than a candidate’s meeting before the election. You’d wonder which side of his bread he thinks the butter is on.
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February 22, 2024 10:34am
- Ghost
  
  Invite him to your retirement village.
  
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  February 22, 2024 10:37am
  - Cassandra
    
    I think you’re missing the point of my question. I’m not a National voter. He’s after my vote, not the other way around.
    
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    February 22, 2024 10:50am
    - Ghost
      
      Nope, you’re missing the point. The politicians have a lot of places they are invited to go to in their time back in the electorate. If you want them to turn up to your village you have to invite them and expect to wait a bit as some already have full schedules of places people have invited them to go to.
      
      If you expect them to just drive up and walk in without an invite, you will be waiting a long time
      
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      February 22, 2024 12:24pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The election was not that long ago, he went to Marae during the election campaign as he did with retirement homes, he puts all those visits on his fb page
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:53am
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    That is not what the media want to know – it does not suit them !
    
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    February 22, 2024 2:41pm
NothingLeft

Chinese govt plan – keep 80% of population perpetually impoverished so that they will work hard:
https://youtu.be/pMShQVKBhlc?t=205

Jesus they are a backward evil lot.
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February 22, 2024 10:47am
- MCōs
  
  Except that figure is ridiculously inaccurate
  
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  February 22, 2024 2:10pm
  - MCōs
    
    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/whats-next-for-poverty-reduction-policies-in-china/
    
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    February 22, 2024 2:20pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      You simply can’t trust any economic stats published by the PRC. They lie as standard operating procedure.
      
      Here’s an externally generated estimate that nearly half of PRC population are trying to survive on <$10/day and about a quarter on <$5/day.
      https://youtu.be/NaCqtGpo6Wo?t=486
      
      And that has to cover food, clothing, accomodation, utilities, transport, phone (if you can afford one) etc in a harsh climate where winters are brutally cold.
      
      PRC go so far as to game google to promote bullshit stats in search:
      This blogger spent decades in China, Chinese wife, eventually had to flee and here comments on poverty and faked search results on Google.
      https://youtu.be/Q60iyRA_7aI?t=158
      
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      February 22, 2024 4:51pm
kevn

Stinks… A fat link that works.
https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/the-university-of-otago-s-mysteriously-timed-global-vc-job-search?postId=3f225eef-675c-4557-8e26-e3eaeb35c1d7&utm_campaign=426c61f8-70b0-49cd-bf93-3b0598497c7e&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=5b45568a-af1c-41a8-929c-8a1894124c4d&cid=1f1211cd-263c-45e2-a096-02059b0e56ae
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February 22, 2024 10:52am
- artemisia
  
  Quiet words in ears? Trouts in the milk?
  
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  February 22, 2024 12:40pm
- Jack5
  
  An informative link – thank you Kevin.
  
  Robertson on a five-year contract for a total of $3.1 million. Disgraceful.
  
  I hope you don’t mind me passing on a tip from another Kiwiblog poster on long links.
  
  It generally still works if you chop off everything after the question mark.
  
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  February 22, 2024 12:43pm
Ghost

I feel like I’m in the USA

Just watched a Bus park down the road from a closed down hotel/pub. The bus was full of I’m going to guess refugees, all dark skinned men who got off the bus walked around to the back entrance of the hotel and in.
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February 22, 2024 10:56am
- imalwaysright
  
  Ghost,
  Please post any further info.
  Van Velden said 50,000 immigrants last year were cleaners, grill cooks, labourers etc. All jobs that aren’t certified. I’m thinking that we are part of the illegal immigration going on in the west.
  The problem is that NZ is not a dinghy ride away. Are we “importing” our illegal immigrants?
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:33am
  - stiff cheese
    
    They could be some of the hundreds who were living 20-40 per house, in the Auckland suburbs. All duped into paying an agent for one of Michael Wood’s visas* for a job that didn’t exist.
    
    Did any prosecutions come out of that?
    
    *Accredited Employer Visa.
    
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    February 22, 2024 12:29pm
  - Ghost
    
    appear to be refugee’s, was talking to a shop next door to them. All single men, no woman or children. They are being housed in a hotel that was closed down.
    
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    February 22, 2024 12:37pm
    - Jack5
      
      It’s the fact that the refugees pouring into the West are mainly single men that is alarming.
      
      In the run-up to World War 2, for example, hundreds of Jewish children were evacuated to Britain, and the roads of Europe were full of fleeing families.
      
      Earlier I posted links to a video for the Telegraph of Ireland’s surge of immigrants and refugees.
      
      In it was stated that thousands of single male Ukrainians were each given a tent and a sleeping bag and were clogging up towns.
      
      Shouldn’t these guys be at home fighting?
      
      The video:
      
      https://youtu.be/llAnoLFUgHM?si=8y5BlQzVIzy2RYMi
      
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      February 22, 2024 12:50pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  TBF, it really doesn’t matter whether they’re black, white, or brindle.
  Unless of course you have a problem with cultural diversity down your way?
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:39am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Racial diversity is good, but cultural diversity can cause problems if they attempt to subsume the culture of the host country.
    
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    February 22, 2024 12:32pm
    - Ghost
      
      dumping a bus load of refugees in a country town. They are going to need to get a drivers license and a car to get anywhere including a job. It makes no sense. It’s a 25 minute drive into the main town.
      
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      February 22, 2024 12:43pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Same is happening all over Britain.
        
        https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/fury-at-plans-to-turn-base-into-camp-for-1-500-asylum-seekers-as-part-of-rwanda/
        
        Just an example. Many more on Google
        
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        February 22, 2024 12:52pm
      - Jack5
        
        Maggy P’s … it really doesn’t matter whether they’re black, white, or brindle.
        
        Are you talking from a genetic standpoint, MaggyP? Hybrid vigour (heterosis) perhaps?
        
        Maori must have lost a lot of genetic diversity when they were isolated in these islands for six or seven centuries. Yet, given healthy eating and healthy living, they seem robust enough.
        
        The elephant in the room of NZ immigration is Australia’s continued visa-free entry of NZ’ers to Australia.
        
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        February 22, 2024 1:00pm
peterwn

In fairness, National should be granted a time extension on its 100 day plan. Parliament has adjourned for a week out of respect for the late Efeso Collins MP. Therefore I would think of it as the 107 day plan. Hopefully the Opposition Parties and media will respect this gesture and allow Chris Luxon and National 7 days grace.
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February 22, 2024 11:06am
- Blog-aholic
  
  They won’t.
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:29am
  - wsk12345
    
    And nor should they. Taking the rest of yesterday off would have been sufficient but they knowingly took a holiday to show respect to a colleague that had only been in parliament for 5 minutes.
    
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    February 22, 2024 11:40am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Did you see the crying and whaling? Waste of time having them there
      
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      February 22, 2024 11:55am
    - Ghost
      
      It’s a colleague that was well known on both sides of the house, including the prime minister, and well known within labour. It is the right thing to do to allow his friends time to grieve and to be with his family.
      
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      February 22, 2024 12:05pm
      - Media hater
        
        I can think of three colleagues passing away during my career.
        
        Why on earth would the whole office have been given a week off to mourn?
        
        Close friends were not expected to have a full productive day when the news came through and everyone else was welcome to attend the funeral if they chose to.
        
        What makes this situation different?
        
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        February 22, 2024 2:20pm
      - Ghost
        
        The house isn’t sitting for two days, that’s it. Government is still working. The greens have asked for bereavement leave for some of their mps
        
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        February 22, 2024 2:45pm
    - MCōs
      
      Apart from anything else it’s two sitting days lost.
      Also
      The hundred days was an arbitrary number that outside of the political diehards nobody cares much about
      How many people know what was promised in that timeframe or where the starting & finishing lines are?
      
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      February 22, 2024 1:41pm
- imalwaysright
  
  How about an hour of remembrance and then get back to work.
  
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  February 22, 2024 11:40am
- alex Masterley
  
  Apparently some Green MPs are seeking bereavement leave as a consequence of Mr Collins’ death.
  I cannot understand why. He is a new MP and new to the Green movement having been a labour councilor and then “cough” an independent mayoral candidate.
  They wouldnt have known him that well.
  It is odd.
  Personally I think they are work shy.
  
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  February 22, 2024 1:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is why Joe is still POTUS and can’t be prosecuted.

Strange that Trump can be prosecuted over Jan 6th 2021 when he was POTUS.
Bloody crooked Democrats.

https://conservativeundergroundnews.com/a-star-witness-revealed-joe-bidens-role-in-this-chinese-plot-to-infiltrate-the-white-house/?
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February 22, 2024 11:09am
Maggie Pie

You can see why people are in awe of the Saudis.
No wonder they have such a bright future ahead of them.
And it’s not just because of Oil.

https://twitter.com/AzzatAlsaalem/status/1760323777982771289

A talkback caller maintained the last six years have set NZ on the road to destruction.
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February 22, 2024 11:10am
Gin and Sonic

I see in the The Post today on page two where the story is about all the re-shuffling in the Greens due to Golriz’ criminal proceedings and the sad death of Efeso Collins.

It also mentioned the sad and premature death of Green MP and co-leader, Rod Donald, in office in 2005 aged 48.

[Mod – we are not going to spread false rumors about a person’s death. Rod died in his home from inflammation of the heart due to a C. jejuni infection]
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February 22, 2024 11:13am
Taieri

Great news from the Otago Regional Council. The proposed rate increase for next year is going to be just 18.6% instead of previously announced 21.3%.
Good to see the ORC councillors being concerned about the cost of living and doing their bit to alleviate the burden on the ratepayers.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/proposed-orc-rates-rise-down-213-186

But…are they, really?
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February 22, 2024 11:16am
Taieri

Former health minister Dr Ayesha Verrall told an audience in Dunedin last night she believed tobacco control was one of the main ways to take pressure off the health system.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/health/tobacco-control-would-take-pressure-system-verrall

But, according to the Ministry of Health website, just 6.8% of adults were daily smokers in 2022/23. It looks like the former minister Verrall doesn’t really know much about the area that until recently, she was the minister of.
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February 22, 2024 11:23am
- kevn
  
  Taieri… Vaping. The next health issue.
  
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  February 22, 2024 12:12pm
- MCōs
  
  Lung cancer is the most common cancer and accounts for 5 deaths/day
  80-90% are smokers
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:24pm
Swifty

Has anyone else noticed the price of pork has shot up lately?

I’ve been to several places this week and they’ve all been $25-26 per kilo for shoulder pork, except for one which was low ‘20s.

I don’t buy a lot of pork but I just don’t remember it ever being that expensive.
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February 22, 2024 11:46am
- NothingLeft
  
  I think most pork in NZ is imported as regulations make it uneconomic to raise pigs here.
  
  Could it be due to some sort of regulatory change that makes import more difficult.
  
  Pak’n’save do (imported) frozen pork fillet for about $13/kg which is great for all sorts of meals, and generally do shoulder or leg roasts for about $10-12/kg
  
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  February 22, 2024 12:46pm
  - Ghost
    
    We’ve got some large pig farms down here, and a meat processor that only does pork.
    
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    February 22, 2024 12:56pm
  - virtualmark
    
    The majority of the pork, bacon etc that we eat here in New Zealand comes from Canada.
    
    We do have pig farms here, but they provide less than half of the NZ supply.
    
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    February 22, 2024 1:13pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, 73,000 tonnes imported versus 44,000 produced locally just a year or two ago.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/131457945/pork-industry-says-cheap-imported-meat-trumps-our-animal-welfare-standards#:~:text=The%20country%20imported%20about%2073%2C000,weight%20produced%20locally%2C%20he%20said.
    
    I only buy the NZ stuff which probably doesn’t help me financially.
    
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    February 22, 2024 3:17pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  YIP…now paying $36 for 1.2kg boneless Pork Belly.
  Used to be around $28, so about a 30% increase.
  TBF to our butcher tho, he does score it for me f.o.c.
  
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  February 22, 2024 1:16pm
Truman lodge

Oh Great News!!

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/labor-accuses-coalition-of-fearmongering-over-2000-palestinian-visas-granted/video/421a1515c8320206a72d601ab4171f3e
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February 22, 2024 11:54am
Maggie Pie

It’s Exciting! 😎
Post-Haste have just delivered our ‘2023 Group Photo’ from tennis.
Not a lot has changed from the previous year except rather than me sitting in the front, I’m now standing at a slight angle on the outside of the second row. My pink LV Trainers make quite the fashion statement.

Looking at all the girls, you’d have to wonder why ANY of us would be interested in learning Te Reo.

Just saying.
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February 22, 2024 11:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I really don’t know how you can sleep at night without knowing whether Te Reo is or isn’t ergative.
  
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  February 22, 2024 1:36pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well i know English isn’t.
    
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    February 22, 2024 1:46pm
NothingLeft

Triggernometry talk to Victor James Hanson, one of clearest most level headed US political commentators, about current state of politics in USA and world. Timestamp to his concerns over deep state:
https://youtu.be/2b079LxFsfc?t=1975
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February 22, 2024 1:30pm
Swifty

My apologies, I completely forgot to return to my post yesterday asking whether you can be anti-Semitic and humorous at the same time.

I say you can.

Abraham and Moses were walking down a dusty dirt road one day and came across a large tent sitting just off the road. A large sign said “Convert to Christianity and receive 1,000 shekels.”

Abraham says “that sounds like a good idea, I think I’ll try it” and into the tent he goes.

About half an hour goes by and finally Abraham emerges from the tent and rejoins Moses.

Moses asks “well, how did that go? Did you convert?”

“Yes” comes the reply, “and I feel just great about it.”

“And? Moses continues, “did you get the 1,000 shekels?”

Abraham looks at him disdainfully “My god, is that all you people think about?”
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February 22, 2024 2:40pm
Chuck Bird

FYI

Helen Petousis-Harris on the New Vaccine Safety Report

https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/helen-petousis-harris-on-the-new-vaccine-safety-report
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February 22, 2024 2:53pm
Maggie Pie

My partner was saying everyone HE knows don’t think dopey Ginny’s comments
about Mitch did him any real harm.
All the boys reckon his shares have probably more than doubled in the last 24 hours 😀
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February 22, 2024 3:04pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Auntie Ginny proved she should never handle a gun. It went off half cocked and blew a self inflicted wound into her foot via her mouth.
  
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  February 22, 2024 3:32pm
- ecco
  
  Just really showed the subpar pool of talent labour is appointing to shadow ministerial portfolios. That that was the best material Anderson could come up with says it all that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
  Verrall in the same boat and Edmonds their new finance spokesperson as well. The blind leading the blind… can’t wait to hear some fiscal debates between Willis and Edmonds.
  
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  February 22, 2024 4:22pm
Surely Knott

Lack of diversity in a political party is racist and bad unless it’s the Greens then it’s just a quirky anomaly.

RNZ headline “Lawrence Xu-Nan seeks to become the Greens’ first-ever Chinese-origin MP”

” In a peculiar anomaly of New Zealand politics, the Greens haven’t had any lawmakers of Indian or Chinese descent in their ranks in the party’s three-decade history.”

“”The Green Party doesn’t believe in the tokenistic approach that some parties have in terms of Asian representation,” he says, defending his party’s position”

Hmmmm pretty sure this chosen on merit logic didn’t get National very far with the media. And so the Greens reckon diversity is TOKENISTIC! Lol.

Compare the soft headlines for the Greens lack of diversity, compared to RNZ headlines for the Nats, “Lack of Diversity perpetuating entitlement in National”

And Stuff 2020 headline, Merit vs Diversity is a false dichotomy as they raked Todd Muller over the coals.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/indonz/500033/lawrence-xu-nan-seeks-to-become-the-greens-first-ever-chinese-origin-mp
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February 22, 2024 4:21pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well, it’s about time our Parliament had an expert on Ancient Egyptian narrative in its ranks.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MjXV136Cvo
  
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  February 22, 2024 4:48pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    SHEESH!
    
    He’d be enuff to send those around him to sleep…
    
    https://youtu.be/c2vLozYIT_s
    
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    February 22, 2024 5:22pm
- Beach Haven expat
  
  This clown will fit in well with the Greens.
  Is he aware his party has Co leadership rules where there has to be a woman and someone of a minority ethnicity?
  The very definition of tokenism.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:00pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  That article is hilarious.
  
  ‘In a peculiar anomaly of New Zealand politics, the Greens haven’t had any lawmakers of Indian or Chinese descent in their ranks’
  
  My take:
  
  In a peculiar anomaly of New Zealand politics, the Greens haven’t had any lawmakers of intelligence or integrity in their ranks
  
  See, this is a great game. Anyone can play.
  
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  February 22, 2024 8:44pm
NothingLeft

AGI timelines: AI experts are pretty regularly polled on the question of how long until AGI. Here someone has looked at how those expert timelines are rapidly collapsing over time, and concludes that if those reductions continue it same pace then we are looking at AGI in two years.
https://youtu.be/q05kiN7P-eY?t=294
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February 22, 2024 4:22pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Bit scary for me. At 71 I sort of get it, but don’t want to see it happen.
  Control, and I do not like being controlled.
  Am I on the right track thinking like this?
  
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  February 22, 2024 5:09pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    It may initially be a boon for non-workers as a lot of office based and easily automated services will likely get cheaper (warehousing, deliveries, much medical, lawyers, accountants etc). They could probably do a good job of replacing judiciary even now. But it’ll be devastating for most work from home careers.
    
    And it will quickly creep into a lot of other repetitive labouring jobs like home care, gardening, agriculture, painting, driving.
    
    There is nothing you can do to prepare or protect kids career-wise outside of giving them practical skills where combination of brains/problem solving,manual dexterity and physical versatility will retain some value. Ie trades. Or getting them into insulated civil service roles.
    
    But I expect most medical, retail, food service, hairdressing/beauty workers, will be robots in a decade.
    
    Not sure what the point of living in cities will be – when we’re all out of work. Expect a collapse in property values and flight to cheaper rural/provincial lifestyles with robot maintained lifestyle sections. Robotic housebuilding will make it a lot cheaper.
    
    There just won’t be many fields where humans can economically compete/contribute. And those where we can will rapidly diminish. It’s going to be utterly devastating to the life plans and dreams of almost everyone, but probably worst for men as they lose a major pillar of their existence/self worth.
    
    And without work I think a collapse into totalitarian socialist tyranny is inevitable (if the AI’s don’t take-over ruling the planet), as the non-workers will very soon outvote the workers and vote inevitably despotic sociopaths into power.
    
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    February 22, 2024 5:33pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      I’m looking forward to a robotic gardener. But I’m not going to trust it with the roses.
      
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      February 22, 2024 8:46pm
- Ghost
  
  I would say it was accomplished a long time ago. What the US military have is always well ahead of what the public have and know about.
  
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  February 22, 2024 5:14pm
Ghost

Hmmm, maybe it’s time to become an illegal

A shocking ten million illegals have crossed the southern border into the US under President Biden’s watch so far. Thousands of lucky migrants who end up in the progressive hellhole of New York City could soon receive pre-loaded debit cards with amounts as much as $10,000 under a new controversial program launched by Democrat Mayor Eric Adams.

Article
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February 22, 2024 5:10pm
- Inandout
  
  Ghost, it seems this Biden move is to flood the States which may affect the Electoral College. I could be wrong but the Dems are as cunning as a fox when it comes to voting.
  
  ‘How does the electoral college work?
  
  ‘The number of electors from each state is roughly in line with the size of its population. Each state gets as many electors as it has lawmakers in the US Congress (the House and Senate).
  
  California has the most electors – 54 – while a handful of sparsely populated states like Wyoming, Alaska and North Dakota (and Washington DC) have the minimum of three.
  
  There are 538 electors in total.
  
  Each elector represents one electoral vote and a candidate needs to gain a majority of the votes – 270 or more – to win the presidency’.
  
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  February 22, 2024 6:24pm
  - dcrane
    
    Yes the Constitution deems that the census counts all “persons”. So pulling in millions of illegals gives a state more power in Congress and in the Electoral College.
    
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    February 22, 2024 7:09pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

When does this shit stop?
And backpaid ffs!

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350179006/kapiti-coast-council-boss-gets-50k-pay-rise?
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February 22, 2024 6:25pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  When the sheeple pull their heads out of their butts and get interested in local elections?
  
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  February 22, 2024 7:01pm
- Inandout
  
  SO, I think the salaries of CEOs are set by the Local Bodies Commission. Seeing Kapiti Island is in their area I suspect this guy has Maori roots there.
  
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  February 22, 2024 9:13pm
Maggie Pie

So, whlie we await the reurn of the fab Ryan Bridge and his primetime show on TV3…. they’re busy runing a seires of ‘Gold Coast Cops’ fron TEN years ago!

Sky do the same sort of thing off course, only differnce iswe have to pay for there old shite 🙁

Must think we all silly or soemthing!!
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February 22, 2024 7:35pm
- greybeard
  
  Please check your splelling .
  
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  February 22, 2024 7:45pm
Ghost

Someone needs to, I’m not sure stuff understand the basics

Sean Plunket Explains to Stuff How Journalism Works
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February 22, 2024 7:59pm
Jack5

Karl du Fresne retires from blogging with a thoughtful piece on John Campbell and “objective” journalism v. opinion-based journalism:

https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2024/02/the-case-for-objectivity-in-journalism.html
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