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krazykiwi

From Spiked: Canada has revealed the horror of assisted dying

‘Assisted dying’, as it is euphemistically called, is often sold as a more compassionate, civilised alternative to suffering at the end of life. Those still gripped by this delusion should take a look at Justin Trudeau’s Canada, where so-called assisted dying has become a gruesome, state-sanctioned industry. Assisted dying in Canada was initially considered a last resort for terminally ill patients suffering from incurable pain. But in the space of just a few years, euthanasia has been made available to pretty much anyone who is struggling with an illness or a disability. Even Canadians facing homelessness and poverty are feeling compelled to end their lives, rather than ‘burden’ the authorities.

Things are about to get even darker. In a few months time, on 17 March, Canadians will be able to apply for MAID on the grounds that they are suffering from a mental illness (kk: That’s topical!). If this expansion to the MAID programme goes ahead, anyone struggling with a serious mental-health condition may be eligible for either assisted suicide or euthanasia, even if they are not suffering from any physical pain at all. This would include people dealing with drug addiction or other substance-abuse issues.

In less than a decade, Canada has gone from legalising assisted dying in the tightest of circumstances – for adults suffering from terminal illnesses, for whom death was imminent – to offering suicide as an alternative to life’s woes. It amounts to a cautionary tale of the deep inhumanity, the cruel disregard for human life, that is unleashed when you introduce state-assisted death.
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All of this is well beyond the bounds of what Canadians were originally told MAID would entail. But stories of homeless, poor, disabled and desperate people accessing a state-assisted death, because it is the ‘easier’ option, are merely the grim, logical consequence of legalising assisted dying in the first place. Assisted dying undermines the value of life. It elevates death as the ultimate solution to suffering. Canada is a warning to the world. This is where the ‘right to die’ leads us.

Many here clapped and cheered when euthanasia was legalised in New Zealand. Others, like me, were mocked for suggesting this was a slippery slope leading towards state-initiated convenience killings. Apparently slippery slopes are a ridiculous, unsupported fearmongering strategy adopted by the inhumane.

With Canada’s current state of expanded MAID fairly evident would anyone care to disabuse me of the notion that New Zealand is headed in precisely the same direction?
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January 17, 2024 8:01am
- Chuck Bird
  
  “In a few months time, on 17 March, Canadians will be able to apply for MAID on the grounds that they are suffering from a mental illness. ”
  
  While I have no use for Golriz Ghahraman I think she should not be offered this while at a low point.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:07am
  - G152
    
    She knew what she was doing and now is trying to hide behind the ‘someone said mean things’ excuse.
    No excuse
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:12am
  - Over40SingleMan
    
    Golriz’s stress and mental anxiety occurred AFTER she was caught
    
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    January 17, 2024 12:07pm
- Rusty
  
  @krazykiwi
  
  Scary reading! Another thought is what age could a person decide to end their lives due to a mental illness — teen or pre-teen age?
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:21am
  - krazykiwi
    
    MAID is currently available to those 18+ years. There is a push to include so-called ‘mature minors’ (incl. children as young as 12) in the next revision. The proposal is for it to only apply for terminally ill mature minors, but that constraint was how MAID was originally scoped … and look where that’s gone.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:42am
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  As opposed to … ?
  
  How might the situation in Canada look different, if assisted dying was widely and genuinely seen as a desirable and dignified alternative to “natural” dying, freely chosen by increasing numbers of people?
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:30am
  - krazykiwi
    
    “freely chosen by increasing numbers of people”
    
    “Christine Gauthier, a Paralympian and veteran, asked the authorities if she could have a stairlift installed in her home. She received a letter asking if she had ever considered euthanasia”
    
    Of course she is free to disregard the official letter suggesting they help end her life.
    
    And Quebec? In 2022 8% of deaths were people ‘freely choosing’ to have the state kill them.
    
    This might be the freedom you clamour for, but it’s not for me, thanks.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:25am
    - Raphael
      
      there is a recent story I heard reported where a lady is getting cancer treatment in the US because she got a letter basically saying “The treatment you need is expensive and we don’t think it will work, so we’re not going to approve it. Have you considered euthanasia”
      
      can’t recall if it was a stream with Viva Frei or Ian Runkle who reported on it.
      
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      January 17, 2024 9:45am
    - Dudley Quaffquaff
      
      but it’s not for me, thanks
      
      And that is, and will remain, absolutely your choice. It’s an option. You don’t have to choose it, and nobody’s going to make you.
      
      Others might think differently about their own circumstances. Why should they not have an informed choice available to them?
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:04pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        “and nobody’s going to make you”
        
        Unless you’ve been asleep for the last 4 years, you will have learned that the state is extremely adept at removing choice, nudging, cajoling, leading, and outright bullying towards outcomes that it desires.
        
        To believe that the most vulnerable – the terminally ill, the feeble, the welfare dependent at the bottom of the heap need only flex their ‘rights’ in the face of zero societal pressure to consider assisted death is weapons grade naivety.
        
        This is the point that I have never, and I do mean never seen addressed by the pro-euthanasia crowd. It’s all ‘their rights’ this, and ‘my rights’ but never weighed against the certainty the some humans will always want to rid themselves of other humans who they consider weak or invaluable.
        
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        January 17, 2024 2:08pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        I don’t think that’s the way the human mind works. I’m probably not going to totally give up on the concept of Free Will, but choices can be manipulated.
        Two paths are open to you but on gets greased and lined with flowers and candy and the other is filled with rocks and grit.
        Isn’t that exactly what advertising and promotional campaigns are designed to do?
        
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        January 17, 2024 5:18pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Thin end of the wedge.
  
  Just wait for the stories about oldies being pressured into “doing the decent thing” to preserve the family wealth in the face of swingeing rest home fees.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:34am
- slightlyrighty
  
  I have the utmost support for assisted dying in the case of the terminally ill, however, allowing the Mentally Ill to do so is something that I will fight.
  
  In NZ, this bill was presented and passed with safeguards to prevent such incrementalism, and I imagine that the stewards of the Bill (ACT, and David Seymour in particular) would feel the same way that I do.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:37am
  - krazykiwi
    
    No legislation, no matter the included ‘safeguards’ can prevent subsequent changes to that legislation to remove those safeguards and/or widen the scope. This is exactly what happened with MAID in Canada.
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:22pm
    - Keith White
      
      Yes. The slippery slope is real, really slippery, and increasingly steep once we start sliding down it.
      
      And “Assisted Dying” is like “Arbeit Macht Frei” only more disingenuous.
      
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      January 17, 2024 4:05pm
      - mawm
        
        There is a second aspect to the slippery slope – that where doctors no longer have no choice about having to do the deed. I know that it was being floated at one of the hospitals that does terminations of pregnancies that anaesthetists were expected do be involved as part of their “duties”.
        
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        January 17, 2024 6:27pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Much like the house of horrors cutely named “gender affirming care”.
        
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        January 17, 2024 7:44pm
- Jmac
  
  Once you conceed that an individual can choose to be killed by others, and that appointed persons have the power to take innocent life – there really is no handbrake on the slippery slope except shame.
  
  Add the financial incentive to keep the industry going, and you have a recipe for expansion.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:48am
  - lifesgood
    
    Like the lucrative abortion industry. How any so called doctor can tear a baby from the womb and not feel some sort of guilt and anguish beggars belief.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:24am
    - Dudley Quaffquaff
      
      How you can insist that women you don’t know endure the damage to their health, mental and economic wellbeing that an unwanted or unviable pregnancy entails and not feel some sort of guilt and anguish beggars belief.
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:09pm
      - miltonF
        
        It’s weird how this only applies to women. How would you feel if the man did not want the child? Would his mental health and economic wellbeing justify the termination of the child? If not, why?
        
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        January 17, 2024 6:18pm
  - peterwn
    
    And Brooke van Velden.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:17am
  - peterwn
    
    The individual can withdraw consent at any time and indeed needs to continue to re-affirm consent right to the end.
    These Canadian concerns can be addresses when the legislation is reviewed and amended. Any agency that suggests it (e.g. to save money) and involved staff should face prosecution.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:23am
  - david in Aus
    
    How does the death penalty and abortions factor into your thesis of a slippery slope?
    
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    January 17, 2024 3:14pm
    - mawm
      
      Coercion of either or both the individual and the medical practitioner by “authorities”. This has a funny way of becoming mandated.
      
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      January 17, 2024 6:41pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  A fine example of socialism in action: the government putting effort and resources into trying to prevent mentally ill people killing themselves, and at the same time putting effort and resources into helping mentally ill people kill themselves.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:52am
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes, like let’s spend billions of dollars planting productive farmland in pinetrees, also let’s spend hundreds of millions trying to control wilding pines, but morally obscene as well as wasteful.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:00am
  - KH
    
    What’s socialist about that Nigel?
    
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    January 17, 2024 12:06pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Good post.
  
  Give a bureaucrat a box to tick and that is precisely what they will do.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:55am
- ClanMcleod
  
  KK – Very important words of caution. I do believe in assisted dying after watching both my father and father in law suffering greatly in their final days. One with aggressive throat cancer, the other with MND.
  
  But the rules around access to this should NEVER go beyond these types of situation. Where painful death is inevitable, no other options are available.
  
  I don’t mean to trivialise mental health, I’ve had a couple of major bouts in my life, but this should never be an option for state assisted dying. Your mental state can and does change. Anyone suffering from serious mental health issue, can and often do end their own life.
  
  We don’t need the state on hand to make this process easier.
  Canada really is a very frightening country and it’s a direction we were apparently headed in under the sociopath Ardern. Hopefully we’ve changed course.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:01am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Exactly. The rules we have are what they should be. I will fight any attempt to make it more broad but that doesn’t mean it’s right to stop people who need it from getting it.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:09am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Many Canadians have fought. It hasn’t worked. Tell me why it will be different here.
      
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      January 17, 2024 9:18am
      - Cassandra
        
        It got through here because its rules were tightened. Ask Seymour. The mental extension will not happen here.
        
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        January 17, 2024 9:28am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        That doesn’t make it right to deny those that are dying their rights.
        I despise “slippery slope” being used as an excuse for people denying others their rights.
        The fact it makes our job doing what’s right, harder is irrelevant. People’s rights should still be protected.
        
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        January 17, 2024 9:42am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Cassandra, the rules were very tight when MAID was first approved in Canada, too. Same in New Zealand. ‘Tight’ rules don’t appear to work.
        
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        January 17, 2024 10:59am
      - krazykiwi
        
        LAR – Do you also support the right of sick people to not be subjected to societal pressure to ‘do the honourable thing’? And if so how do you propose to legislate for that right?
        
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        January 17, 2024 11:01am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        KK – have you read the legislation?
        There are pretty significant requirements on the signing off doctors to ensure no pressure is being applied.
        Also note that the eligible people are going to die and are in extreme pain. The societal pressure argument only really comes into play if you relax the requirements which as I stated I am against.
        
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        January 17, 2024 11:18am
      - mawm
        
        Libs – I see that suddenly you have declared this as a “right”. This is the kind of thing that that begins the descent downwards. Secondly the requirements for doctors to “sign off” on abortions soon became a rubber stamp, less onerous and easily circumvented.
        
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        January 17, 2024 6:49pm
  - tf78
    
    Regarding mental health: suicide – assisted or not is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:51am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Another example of the Motte and Bailey strategy.:
  
  A form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions that share similarities, one modest and easy to defend (the “motte”) and one much more controversial and harder to defend (the “bailey”).
  
  The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, insists that only the more modest position is being advanced. Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer can claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte) or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).
  
  Wiki calls it a fallacy and it is, but in practice it works almost all the time in winning political arguments – as long as you’re patient and – contra Wiki – start with the “uncontroversial” position.
  
  In less than a decade, Canada has gone from legalising assisted dying in the tightest of circumstances – for adults suffering from terminal illnesses, for whom death was imminent…
  
  The Motte.
  
  …to offering suicide as an alternative to life’s woes.
  
  The Bailey.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:16am
  - david
    
    Case in point was the gay marriage matter that retreated to civil contract status which Helen Clark (in)famously declared to be the satisfactory and absolute limit. The ink wasn’t dry on the Royal Assent when the wedge got pounded in another inch.
    
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    January 17, 2024 12:22pm
- sirknz
  
  The next logical step is implementing a ‘resyk’ facility just like in the Judge Dredd comics whereby the dead are recycled into food for the population, similar to the premise of Soylent Green for those of you who never read the comics.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:16am
  - newview
    
    great movie
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:08pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  It’ll be compulsory for the over 65s and “unproductive” within a generation.
  
  Who would have thought Logans Run would be a how to manual.
  
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  January 17, 2024 12:35pm
  - newview
    
    DFKN Some might say the over 65’s are some of the most productive. They turn up for work get the job done and don’t complain about the wages. You may still be right who would know.
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:13pm
- NoFax
  
  Remember, the people who are saying euthanasia is your choice are the same people who are saying getting the Covid vaccine was your choice.
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:04pm
- Paul
  
  You would feel a lot better about this if you knew that Humans, and nothing, is alive.
  Humans are organic robots, which explains most things.
  Natuarally, you will protest.
  But you cannot prove that you are alive.
  Because you are not.
  You are welcome to prove me wrong, but you cannot.
  A part of being what you are, I guess!
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:17pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Criticism written by people who don’t have teen aged daughters.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/506872/watercare-defends-sexist-social-media-post-on-women-s-showering-times
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January 17, 2024 8:01am
- John Loveridge
  
  Teenage sons can be bad enough. Ask me how I know.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:03am
- sirknz
  
  Are they saying it is sexist because its true or is it sexist because it says something potentially negative about women?
  
  I suspect that it is the latter.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:23am
- cmm
  
  Ballsy move by Watercare.
  Don’t worry about the leaks etc costing us over 180 litres per connection per day.
  
  Nah, blame the chicks wasting 12 litres by taking a minute longer in the shower!
  
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  January 17, 2024 4:00pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    “A minute longer” – if only! It’s the hair, you see.
    
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    January 17, 2024 4:28pm
Warren

Well done Labour and the Maori Party and with their negativity and race based rhetoric, as National soars in the first political poll of 2024 as Chris Hipkins crashes to a record low.
So keep up the good work Tuku Morgan and those on the left that follow you as New Zealander’s don’t want a bar of your race baiting agenda and The Coalition Government just wants to move on and create more wealth for New Zealander’s after the miserable past 6 years of a Labour Government that was out of date and inept everything they touched.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/national-soars-in-new-poll-as-voters-agree-country-is-on-track-chris-hipkins-crashes-record-low/TNS4GGJHIFDTZNGMKPQLNJOGJA/
Chris Hipkins can’t survive with polls like this and Labour must be worried about how they will survive after a poll like this.
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January 17, 2024 8:01am
- pdm
  
  Hard to understand how Labour still sit around the 28% mark.
  
  The Green drop by one was probably not unexpected but that could become a rapid slide if Chloe is found to be implicated in the Golriz fiasco.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:27am
  - Matt Long
    
    The Right Direction poll points to Kiwis being low information decision makers around what constitutes good policy.
    “The poll registered another significant milestone: for the first time since February 2022, more people think the country is on the “right track” than the “wrong track”. A net 4 per cent of people say the country is heading in the right direction – a massive jump from December when a net 19 per cent of people believed the country was heading in the wrong direction.
    
    That shows a massive course correction in public sentiment which had seen a net 42 per cent of people think the country was heading in the wrong direction by the middle of last year. It is still a long way off the heady days of January 2021 when a net 53 per cent of people believed the country was heading in the right direction”
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:45am
  - Paulus
    
    CC was with another named young woman believed to be a Green Party worker, not Chloe.
    
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    January 17, 2024 1:05pm
- Biscuit
  
  In keeping with his (long) list of failed decisions, Warren, Chippie’s decision to go to Jacinda’s wedding and not to Kieran McAnulty’s is likely gonna cost him one of the (few) votes he’ll garner when Labour come to vote on their 2024 leader…
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:53am
  - pdm
    
    Biscuit.
    
    Maybe Hipkins went to Jacinda’s wedding to find out who he should annoint to succeed him as Labour Leader.
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:13pm
- Opie
  
  If you could get the guest lists from the 2 weddings in the weekend, I think that would give a really good idea of what the labour party will look like in the coming months.
  
  If you chose not to go to mcanultys you are toast
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:58am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Fix the toxic education system (tertiary included) and the support for the toxic idiot parties will significantly wither I’m thinking.
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:47pm
Scott

The media coverage of the Golriz story deserves some scrutiny. Check out the headlines from the mainstream media about Golriz. Notice how sympathetic they are –
Stuff 16th Jan
“Greens co-leaders mark ‘sad day’ as Golriz Ghahraman quits”

Stuff 17th Jan
“One of the Green Party’s greatest talents, and a history-making MP, Golriz Ghahraman’s political career ended after almost inexplicable allegations of theft emerged. ”

Newshub 16th Jan
“Shaw, Davidson say ex-Green MP Golriz Ghahraman subject to ‘continuous threats’ since entering Parliament.”

Now by contrast check out the headline Sam Uffindell received about an incident that happened years before when he was at school –

Newshub 9/8/22
” National’s previous scandals under scrutiny after Sam Uffindell admits to violently assaulting boy at school
The National Party’s culture is under scrutiny…”

Notice the difference. Liberal, non white, female Golriz gets sympathetic treatment. Also there is no suggestion there is a wider issue among the Greens. There is no suggestion that something could be wrong with liberal women like Golriz, Kiri Allan and Tory Whanau? Is there a bad culture on the left? The media would never ask that question!

We find no sympathy for white conservative heterosexual male Uffindell for something that happened years before when he was a school boy. Indeed there is some wider problem with the “culture of the National party” according to the media.

Can we agree the NZ mainstream media wouldn’t know proper journalism and objectivity if they fell over it?
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January 17, 2024 8:01am
- Tricati
  
  I have read and listened with interest the number of articles about the Golriz Ghahraman saga, and in particular, the left reframing this as if she is the victim – aided I might add by a complicit MSM.
  We saw no such defence of both Judith Collins and Paula Bennett when they were being ‘attacked’ by left wing activist, and those being supported by the MSM in many cases. And Marama, Paula is a woman of colour.
  We saw the odious Mallard use parliamentary privilege to make a ‘nasty’ comment about Nick Smith’s known mental health issues by telling him ‘To take his pills’. Yet that and the appalling effigy made of Smith and placed outside the Canterbury Regional Council offices was deemed acceptable by the left.
  Any threats of violence, in any form, made against another person is just unacceptable and cannot be condoned.
  The fact Ms Ghahraman has got under the skin of many maybe in a large part due to her misrepresentation of her CV, her attitude towards those on the right of politics, or her belittling of anyone who challenges her point of view; but to use metal health as an excuse for theft isn’t going to wash with most rational thinking kiwis.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:43am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    The point people seem to be missing with regards the overt bias of much of the New Zealand media towards the so called progressive left is that they are irrelevant. They preach to the choir.The latest polls show us this, the election result showed us this. Despite years of pro government reporting, censorship by omission and damned right lies Labour suffered a catastrophic defeat. The following immediate attacks from any conceivable angle towards the new government showed many New Zealanders what they may have been ignoring and that was an overtly ideologically captured media that had been working shamelessly in lock step with the previous government and the voices that had been calling it out were indeed correct. The huge success of the movie River of Freedom as opposed to the appalling and otherwise forgettable propaganda piece by Paula Penfold is a good example of my point. The coalition of the boutique left is representative of an ever decreasing pool of indoctrinated graduates, malcontents and fringe opportunists. The media belief that they some how are still held in any regard by the majority of the public is just that a belief and a mis placed one. So let them rip I say. They have climbed onto the chair placed a noose around their own necks and jumped. All that’s going on now is the kicking.
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:26am
    - Miritu
      
      “So let them rip I say.”
      Agree, but it won’t happen anytime soon. Kiwiblog commenters continue to consume their content, despite a sea of superior alternatives.
      
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      January 17, 2024 2:52pm
- Philview
  
  I would imagine that many commentators on this site have stressful lives and the comments section a vital form of stress relief to unload what is on our minds. Yet the media often talk of right leaning blog sites as some kind of cesspit even blaming GG’s shoplifting on right wing blogs. Perhaps GG should stop reading this stuff if it affects her do badly.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:11am
- Rich Prick
  
  Rumours have it that even Hamas is reconsidering her role as their NZ spokesthing.
  
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  January 17, 2024 3:26pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I can guarantee you politicians right of centre receive a lot more credible threats of violence than those on the left. It’s not the right perpetually calling in bomb threats, false fire alarms, punching people, deafening people with air horns or loud hailers, throwing things at people (like poop and urine) etc etc when their brainwashing is challenged by alternative perspectives. It’s overwhelmingly self righteous lefties doing this stuff.
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:59pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Celia farms carbon for a living. How to monetise the climate nonsense.

I’ll give her points for actually being interested in the environment, but what a nutcase!

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506863/who-is-celia-wade-brown-the-next-green-mp
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January 17, 2024 8:02am
- NothingLeft
  
  Another in the list of fucking useless green wellington mayors, failing upwards.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:22am
- kowtow
  
  I suspect most moderately intelligent folk are interested in the environment and there’s nothing new in that either.
  
  The problem with the ‘Greens” is they want to use the “environment” to master the rest of us and tell us what to do.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:05am
- PurplePen
  
  Pictures of her on her bicycle always reminded me of Magaret Rutherford as Madame Arcati cycling in the 1945 Blithe Spirit film. Word is Shaw is leaving sometime this half of the year. Hopefully she is made co-leader, or Sorebrick and the party will be closer to imploding.
  
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  January 17, 2024 12:45pm
Chuck Bird

This is 12 years old and 1 hr 46 min long but worth the watch. I put this on GD late yesterday. I am interested in others’ views on the question.

Is Islam a Religion of Peace?

Is the rise of terrorism and violence justifiably traced to the teachings of Islam, or is this call to war a twisted interpretation of the true Muslim faith? Most of the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims are moderates who see Islamic terrorism as a violation of their sacred texts. Is it wrong to let a radical minority represent authentic Islam? Has fear blinded us to its lessons of tolerance and peace?

For: Zeba Khan
For: Maajid Nawaz

Against: Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Against: Doulas Murray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh34Xsq7D_A
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January 17, 2024 8:04am
- crikey
  
  Chuck: …and is it wrong to let a radical minority represent Maoridom in New Zealand?
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:11am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Yes, but that is a separate issue.
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:30pm
- Raphael
  
  interestingly enough Ayaan Hirsi Ali is no longer an atheist but has become a Christian.
  
  https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:48am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The beginning of the end.
“Trump appears to have garnered the highest vote share in Iowa Republican caucus history.”

Video Kayleigh McEnany. 4.19.

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2024/01/trump-wins-iowa-in-record-breaking-fashion-vivek-drops-out-makes-endorsement-videos/?
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January 17, 2024 8:05am
- artemisia
  
  Vivek for VP?
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He seems to have an issue with nominations from dead people. I don’t think any skullduggery from him, just a slack admin team.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:25am
- Grunter
  
  Who drops out next, Haley or De Santis. Hopefully Haley (she is a drop kick). And would that boost De Santis enough to make a race of it? Probably not.
  
  The Leftards in the US are in serious meltdown mode now that they realise Trump will most likely win.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Haley won’t drop out. The Dems are financing her campaign.
    She’s a hard core RINO.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:28am
    - sungsamning
      
      Yes, indeed. Neocon Nikki.
      
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      January 17, 2024 6:52pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    De Santis beat Haley by a hair with far less money. They’re both hanging in on off chance that Trump is taken out by nefarious means.
    
    Haley does appear to be the pick of the ‘deep state’ with a lot of her support coming from Democratic donors, whereas De Santis appears to be a genuinely good and principled man, and has done a great job of governing Florida. I hope he ends up on ballot.
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:28am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Do you think Trump may be assassinated because the Democrats (knowing they can’t win) want RINO Nikki Haley for POTUS?
      Nothing surprises me with the cheating Dems.
      
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      January 17, 2024 11:38am
  - virtualmark
    
    Prediction: Both Haley and De Santis will have dropped out before Super Tuesday. By then Trump will have been confirmed as the GOP Presidential candidate.
    
    Also prediction: Haley will not be Trump’s VP pick.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:19am
    - KH
      
      At the UN Haley was a raucous war promoter. Last thing the US or the world needs.
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:13pm
      - Conservatarian
        
        They don’t call her “Haleyry” (as in merging Haley’s surname with Hillary Clinton’s first name) for nothing. She is clearly a lib and a DNC trojan horse. DeSantis’ campaigning has been baffingly awful, and he has bankrupted his campaign so will not be able to compete in New Hampshire or South Carolina. Haley will be there until the death.
        
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        January 17, 2024 2:34pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        That is why the Dems want her there, a warmonger – besides then the Dems can get back on with their corruption as they have always done.
        
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        January 17, 2024 5:46pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Haley has no show of winning the MAGA primary. So if she decides to stay in after North Carolina and Nevada it’s because she believes in Jack Smith and/or heart disease.
        
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        January 17, 2024 6:01pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Trump is playing her like a fiddle.
      No smiles yet but that will come.
      
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      January 17, 2024 5:43pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “Trump had garnered 51 percent of the vote”
  
  The previous highest 41% for Bush in 2000. Democracy at work exploding TDS heads.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:14am
  - Matt Long
    
    Iowa Dem Governor who looks a dead ringer for Mike, look in Key’s trash can, Williams from Labour, says that since Trump only got 51%, it puts Biden in a strong position. The left is just the same everywhere.
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:29am
    - Matt Long
      
      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-results-show-weakness-donald-trump-democrat-governor-claims
      
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      January 17, 2024 8:35am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      What makes the left think like that? So screwed up in their logic.
      
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      January 17, 2024 9:31am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The beginning of the end. After Nov 5th Democrats will be a quivering mess.
    Delicious.
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:51am
    - imalwaysright
      
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      The “mail in votes” are the biggest threat.
      The Dems will already have writers cramp.
      
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      January 17, 2024 9:00am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Somehow the night time ballot box stuffing has to be stopped.
        2020 there were video security cameras, yet nothing was done.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3Tgnt0lMU
        
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        January 17, 2024 9:38am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    KK – I know you’re a fan of Eugyppius. He’s been commenting on a similar phenomenon in Germany and the left there are reacting as expected.
    
    How German taxpayer-funded fact-checkers conducted covert surveillance of a private meeting for the purpose of smearing Alternative für Deutschland and justifying calls to ban the party
    
    As with Trump and many other things they despise, they only know how to cancel.
    
    https://www.eugyppius.com/p/how-german-taxpayer-funded-fact-checkers
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:05am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Thanks. Yes, I read this. Very similar stuff.
      
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      January 17, 2024 9:11am
- Tom Barker
  
  Isn’t it fascinating how vote rigging only occurs when your preferred candidate loses?
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:16am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Indeed. 12 Minutes of Democrats Denying Election Results
    
    Along with claiming that Trump is an illegitimate President.
    
    It also goes back further than 2016:
    
    Joe Biden, 2013: Al Gore “was elected president of the United States of America.”
    
    Joe Biden, 2016: “I think [Gore] won.”
    
    Hillary Clinton, 2016: The Supreme Court “took away a presidency.”
    
    Barack Obama, 2005: “Not every vote” was counted.
    
    Bill Clinton, 2001: “The only way they could win the election was to stop the voting in Florida.”
    
    Jimmy Carter, 2005: “There’s no doubt in my mind that Al Gore was elected president.”….
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:25am
    - Chris Scott
      
      The difference is, Gore had a legitimate grievance.
      
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      January 17, 2024 11:37am
  - SmokerGuy
    
    You expect it in Africa but shocking to see this sort of BS coming from a US election
    
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    January 17, 2024 1:10pm
- virtualmark
  
  In typical Kayleigh McEnany fashion that’s a half truth.
  
  Trump got the highest vote share in Iowa Republican caucus history *for a non-incumbent President*. For example, in 2020 Trump got 97% vote share.
  
  But typically the Iowa caucus has a lot more than 3 serious candidates in it. For example in 2016 there were 12 serious candidates, Trump got 24% of the vote and came second to Ted Cruz.
  
  But this year’s Iowa caucus just confirmed what we already knew … Trump will be the GOP’s Presidential candidate. No surprise there that he beat (a weak field of) Haley and De Santis.
  
  But there were two interesting things:
  1). Just over 100,000 GOP members voted, which was down from 175,000 or so in 2016. The GOP base is more ardently Trump/MAGA, but there’s less of them.
  2) About 30% of those GOP members who voted said they would not vote for Trump if he was convicted of a crime. Realistically Trump is going to be if not convicted then at least have strong prosecution cases out in public before the election in November.
  
  Trump can’t afford to lose any of the 2020 votes he won. But the signals are that his voter base is thinning. Strong support, but probably not enough of it to win the big election.
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:25pm
Clyde

What in the hell is Newstalk ZB doing getting Gareth Hughes on this morning to “independently” commentate on the Golly G shambles? All he did was repeat – almost word for word the mantra spouted by that pair of zombies at the Watermelon Party Press conference.

Hurry back Mike Hosking.

There is no doubt that the bulk of public opinion is against Golly G pulling out the mental health card. And as for that Davidson woman’s comments about “women of colour”, words fail me. Let us hope that Mr Plod finds the entitled perp today. Bet Cuddles is hoping she might call them so he can give her some love…
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January 17, 2024 8:07am
- lifesgood
  
  I was shocked too. I thought Tim Dower was better than that. The twerp, Gareth, was an utter apologist for criminal behaviour and there was no alternative speaker for balance.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:29am
  - marcw
    
    I would think that maybe other speakers were asked, but declined. As I would too. Let them stew in their own septic tank of sanctimony. A representative from National or ACT would only cop abuse, with no benefit at all in my opinion.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:43am
    - Clyde
      
      marcw, I think you are right regarding a coalition reaction – by far and away the best thing to do from their perspective is to watch from the far sideline and rejoice in the mess being created by the Watermelons. What I thought would have been appropriate would be to get a truly independent political commentator – or one from the right and one from the left. Doesn’t need to be a politician.
      
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      January 17, 2024 1:20pm
- pdm
  
  Clyde said – Hurry back Mike Hosking.
  
  Should be shown thus:
  
  HURRY BACK MIKE HOSKING
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:35am
- sirknz
  
  It’s a coordinated PR campaign. The number of lefty pundits who are all spouting almost word for word the same tweets about ‘brown women being hounded out of politics’ is very obvious.
  
  The fact that they are trying to paint her as the victim of an orchestrated campaign of abuse without showing any of the messages she has received is just part of the typical playbook for them and I find really annoying.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:46am
- Beach Haven expat
  
  Hughes is routinely rolled out on RNZ, which promotes him as no longer a member of any party as though that makes him independent.
  
  Unsurprisingly he’s usually very kind to the Green’s except when he comes to talk about the newly-bearded James Shaw. His tone noticeably sharpens, suggesting no love lost. I suspect it’s jealousy that Shaw won the battle to be the figurehead cuck.
  
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  January 17, 2024 3:30pm
Grunter

Another blog exposing the magical thinking of the Global Boiling scam.

The UK has been a leader in the scam. The result is a de-industrialised economy and an energy sector that is knackered. The failure of off shore wind is now obvious.

But the big picture result is the best part. Since 2008 the UK has reduced emissions by 180 tonnes whilst the rest of the world has increased emissions by 5177. The UK of course imports a crap load of emissions intensive manufactured products from China, so it’s all a mirage.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2024-1-15-status-report-from-another-would-be-climate-leader-the-uk
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January 17, 2024 8:08am
jv

When there was a tragic undiscovered death at a University of Canterbury Hall of Residence a few years ago Chloe Swarbrick launched into sustained high-grade abuse of university administration staff across the country. Where was and has been the sanctimonious Greens “pastoral care” for their anointed victim Golriz.
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January 17, 2024 8:12am
Southern Raider

Has Davidson launched a full enquire yet into how Mossad entrapped poor innocent GG?

I love how the Greens try to portray the an apparent abuse GG got as the reason for her issues. I don’t condone at all anyone making threats as proposed by James Shaw, but you can’t spend several terms in Parliament labelling all straight people, lesbians, Jews, business owners etc as down right evil and not get a reaction.
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January 17, 2024 8:19am
- Raphael
  
  the lefties on X are now blaming Scotties for assuming any brown person is a shoplifter.
  https://twitter.com/VeronicaGlamis/status/1747293783203688921
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:52am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Scotties should register with ACC as a Retail Therapist .
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:39am
  - Countrygirl
    
    I always thought GG had a particularly nice physical appearance. The idea that she was brown never entered my head.
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:49am
    - Conservatarian
      
      Correct. She’s an objectively attractive woman, and benefits from this privilege.
      
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      January 17, 2024 2:39pm
Damocles11

‘Stuff’ has launched a garish new look website amidst an orgy of self congratulation. Another nail in its coffin.
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January 17, 2024 8:19am
- Ghost
  
  Took 3 minutes for me to get into it, I just had a loading “s” for a few minutes, get in, it is an ugly look
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:20am
- Diogenes
  
  My cellphone won’t load the Stuff site at all, asks me to give it all sorts of permissions to gather information from me, which I’m certainly not going to give. Apparently that stops the loading process? I predict that either Stuff are going to lose a lot more readers, or else they will realise the idiocy of this move and quickly revert back. Either way, it’s another nail in their coffin. (I also suspect that some overeager techno/design guru has sold management the latest fad, which will backfire badly.)
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:37am
  - Lance
    
    Your phones bullshit detector is working well.
    It has decided it just isn’t worth the data
    
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    January 17, 2024 1:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

According to RNZ Political editor Craig McCulloch, James Shaw will be leaving Parliament in the very near future.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018922415/more-turbulence-could-come-for-green-party-caucus

(around 6:10)
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January 17, 2024 8:20am
- krazykiwi
  
  They’ll need a football field piled high with shipping containers in order to pack his emitted CO2. And think of all the additional seats freed up on airlines when he’s not jetting about.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:29am
- pdm
  
  MaggyI hope he has a shower and a shave before he starts looking for another job.
  
  He looked bloody scruffy yesterday.
  
  Oh and James – you are the co-leader of the third highest polling party in the New Zealand Parliament so wear a tie for such serious interviews.
  
  Try this philosophy: If you cannot be an effective Parliamenterian at least you can look like one.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:30am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Tie-wearing is dying out. Who knew fashions could change?
    https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/men-stop-wearing-long-ties/#:~:text=The%20Rise%20of%20Business%20Casual,-While%20the%20hippies&text=And%20even%20within%20office%20cultures,a%20nuisance%20to%20many%20men.
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:39am
    - leoj
      
      Looks like you are the only one in step Mikie.
      
      Par for the course…..
      
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      January 17, 2024 10:34am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Hmmm, what words would you have for the clown show calling itself TPM??? lol
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:07am
- Scooter
  
  Good, his media interview with Marama was cringe worthy, he barely answered (only when Marama let him). They were both ducking and diving and hiding behind the “under police investigation” line. And this line about her mental anguish, really it’s only because she’s been caught. The video shows she knew exactly what she was doing, and the body language at the end when she almost seems pleased with herself, hugs her bag and crosses one leg over the other.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:44am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Yesterday’s Presser was simply terrible. It was essentially Mummy and Daddy Green making excuses for their darling daughter’s misbehaviour while telling us it’s all our fault for being mean to her…
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:53am
- cmm
  
  He has many opportunities I am sure.
  
  For one, his billionaire brother in law businessman Rob Hersov could no doubt use someone with his connections in the brave new Green World we live in.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:44am
  - kowtow
    
    Talking of billionaires and connections ,Davos is on again .
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:05am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Oh Shaw will be just fine in the brave new “greewashing” movement that is negatively affecting all of our lives.
    
    ‘Altruistic’ billionaires are falling over themselves to throw money at these clowns posing as eco warriors.
    
    https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2022/10/21/getty-oil-heiress-funds-climate-crisis-activism-just-stop-oil
    
    Just one of many.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:12am
- Grunter
  
  Mental health issues?
  
  Has been caught shoplifting?
  
  Or, most likely, he isn’t woke enough for the Greens – he needs to go away and get a good dose of pronouns and experience more victimhood.
  
  He maybe should clean up his CV as well….!!
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:09am
- Countrygirl
  
  Why don’t these people resign before an election instead of waiting for a couple of weeks after?
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:50am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘James Shaw will be leaving Parliament in the very near future’
  ——————————————————
  I wonder if he knows yet
  
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  January 17, 2024 6:37pm
Greenheart

What worries me, Steve, is that it may be the beginning of the end for Europe if Trump is elected President. He wants to withdraw from NATO and from Ukraine opening the way for his mate Putin to unpick Europe. First Ukraine, them Moldova, Lithuania and Estonia and then onwards. Are you concerned?
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January 17, 2024 8:21am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I am not sure he can withdraw from NATO. It can’t be a Captain’s call.
  What he can do is withdraw funding and make the bludgers pay. Why does the US Taxpayer have to subsidise when Europe pays so little?
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:50am
- NothingLeft
  
  European funding of Ukraine is increasing strongly in wake of US congress freezing funding. Why would anyone pay if they could get others to foot the bill?
  
  Europe clearly has most to lose from Ukraine loss. They can easily afford to pick up the slack, and have more than sufficient wealth and industrial might to do so.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:38am
  - Grunter
    
    NothingLeft – are you (finally) admitting that Ukraine is losing?
    
    Europe “can easily afford”??? How? Printing even more money?
    
    “Industrial might”???? Where? Powered by windmills?
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:28am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Ukraine clearly aren’t ‘losing’. Though they are currently on the defensive as munition supplies from west are slowed and taking a long time to ramp up. But Russia’s extremely costly winter offensive has equally clearly come to naught – appears to be nearly culminated with cadence of attacks falling away, and only tiny territorial gains at cost of 1000’s of pieces of heavy equipment lost (supplies running out given satellite photos of weapons stores) as well as more than 100k Russian casualties taken in catastrophically bad failed assaults in places like Adiivka.
      
      Russia’s aviation has been largely neutralized by patriot batteries that have downed more than a $billion worth of currently irreplaceable Russian planes in last month (including a couple of precious AWACs over Azov sea yesterday). That has seen the Russian air force withdraw and Russian glide bombs largely stopped. Ukraine will soon be getting a lot of F16’s with potential to launch thousands or even 10’s of thousands of cheap warehoused JDAM glide bombs next few months that is going to make life for even dug in Russians very very difficult (Ukraine has hitherto lacked ability to send a lot of heavy ordinance at Russians).
      
      Russia has also exhausted it’s missile stockpiles with only low monthly production and desperation purchases from north korea and Iran to keep them in the game.
      
      And Europe + others are ramping up production of munitions rapidly now that they see war as likely to extend years into future. They are also delivering more and more advanced and longer range weapon systems to target Russia’s rear operations bases and assets.
      
      On drone front Ukraine is rapidly increasing production – expected to be > 1 million this year, with long range strike capability and AI smarts to increase their lethality. They also have saboteurs operating in Russia to increasingly atritt their highly vulnerable industry and infrastructure. Russia’s industrial base is struggling with sanctions and evaporating skills base.
      
      The war will not be over soon – unless perhaps Putin dies, Russia have shown they can’t take territory and Europe are still being very parsimonious in their support – but that would change if they thought Ukraine was in real danger of collapse – EU would likely ramp up support dramatically in such case, with a lot more weapons, perhaps even direct involvement in fighting.
      
      I still expect Ukraine to take back Crimea Zaphorisia and Kherson and eventual armistice with Russia holding East Ukraine. But not until 2025-26. 2024 will see little to no movement.
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:58pm
      - Grunter
        
        I disagree with your summary, but lets for a moment assume it is correct…..even thou it’s full of conflicting statements (eg “Russia have shown they can’t take territory” vs “eventual armistice with Russia holding East Ukraine” – so which one is it??)
        
        Anyway, according to your view:
        1. Europe (NATO) are ramping up and have saboteurs operating in Russia.
        2. Russia is about to be bombed with 10’s of thousands of NATO JDAM glide bombs.
        3. Ukraine is currently producing 1 million+ new smart drones that are very lethal.
        4. Russian missile stocks are virtually depleted, and their military-industrial complex is on its knees due to the sanctions.
        
        Now add into that, Putin is facing an election in March and he is under massive attack from NATO/Ukraine…….and he has over 5,500 nukes including hyper-sonic missiles.
        
        What would he do???
        
        So NothingLeft – I do hope you are wrong.
        
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        January 17, 2024 2:48pm
- leoj
  
  Too many of Europe’s leaders love the US money.
  
  I’d tell them to get stuffed and sort out their own mess. That’s basically what Trump will do too.
  
  The world needs some straight talking and all the socialist/liberal leaders need a kick up the arse.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:42am
- Grunter
  
  Europe will implode on itself soon anyway. Germany was holding it together but has now hit the skids big time. The EU has huge debt, huge deficits and are being flooded with migrants. Their Global Boiling scam is also sinking them.
  
  Why would Putin attack Europe? I can understand that they would if they were attacked first by NATO missiles (and fair enough). But what would Russia gain by invading a woke wasteland of defunct windmills?
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:42am
- KH
  
  Don’t like Trump much. But was delighted to hear his view on American military adventures. He said. ” No more stupid wars”
  Magic to hear.
  
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  January 17, 2024 12:21pm
- Jake Dee
  
  I agree with Otto that the USA can’t just withdraw from NATO. But some realignment is needed. America is over extended, there are many reasons that they can’t do the sort of adventures they did in the early 2000s. The idea that it’s a vital Washington interest that Moldova or the Baltics should be in it’s sphere of influence is just nuts.
  Putin is not Genghis Khan.
  
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  January 17, 2024 5:48pm
Im Right

Ohhhh my, the lefties blogs are having a meltdown, the posters are bringing up Sam Uffindel, Judith Collins past misdemeanors to justify GG being a thief.
I have been delighted to remind them that that was years ago, Uffindel was when he was a teenager and still at school, GGs offending was just last month (and perhaps more than 3x times overall…watch this space, methinks more to come).
My god they are rolling out the excuses, PTSD from all the bombing and shooting she had to endure before her and her family fled to NZ.
They don’t like being reminded that the family were not war refugees and she was no where near the bombings.
Seemingly I’m now a mysogynistic woman of colour hater and of course a racist lol
They talk as if she has died and was future PM of NZ material…fucking nutters the lot of them!
(But I do enjoy riling them up with facts/truths, it’s soooo easy)
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January 17, 2024 8:21am
- Raphael
  
  they also are bringing up a funding issue Melisa Lee had with NZ On Air 15 years ago (and was all repaid, 15 years ago) and trying to make out like it’s something new and that Lee is trying to avoid paying.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:55am
- Lance
  
  Judith Collins so called offending was 100% lies made up by Robbo and peddled by the corrupt MSM
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:16pm
- PurplePen
  
  Where do I find the lefties blogs? Bit new to this and looking for entertainment.
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:39pm
  - newview
    
    PP Search TDB blog and the Standard.
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:28pm
  - Raphael
    
    they’re melting down over on X/Twitter.
    
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    January 17, 2024 5:08pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  That is hilarious. I see over at The Standard, Weka and Incognito are banning any commenters that present them with facts they do not like.
  
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  January 17, 2024 3:36pm
  - Toes on the nose
    
    Weka’s gone full Karen…link this..citation that…ffs they make out like it’s freaking The Lancet. Losers…they’re down to about 4 commenters now.
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:01pm
Hugh Jarse

The utter hypocrisy of the Greens and the media whining about what a hard environment it is in Parliament. The media are at the forefront of doorstopping right wingers who get into trouble and will be there again when the first coalition MP screws up, think Sam Uffindel. They have tried to brand the coalition and their voters as racists and whatever else John Campbell called us. The Greens habitually call anyone criticising them as racists or hard right wing, cis white males, Chloe called out across the house labelling Luxon as liar etc etc. so sorry cry me an effing river with your cry bullying.
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January 17, 2024 8:24am
- Damocles11
  
  The Leftist media attempt ‘mental disintegration’ on every National party leader, and sometimes it works – in the recent past they’ve had mental breakdowns or left the role to undertake other roles outside Parliament for the good of themselves and their family.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:05am
kowtow

The Palestinian Authority pays a stipend to terrorist “martyrs” , that would include Hamas types.

How many western tax dollars , including ours , goes into that?
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January 17, 2024 8:25am
kevn

The unseen… Hat tip Daily Telegraph.
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/shoplifting-saga-i-gave-you-a-chance-ian-wishart-tells-green-party/
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January 17, 2024 8:28am
- cmm
  
  Yup, I saw that yesterday and asked if that woman was anyone we know. Looked a bit like Chloe, but wasn’t sure.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:52am
  - Raphael
    
    some are saying that Chloe has a fly and spider tattoo on her shoulders that the woman in the CCTV video doesn’t seem to have.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:56am
    - Countrygirl
      
      More like the inside of her upper arm. But another on her forearm which may not be so easy to hide. Well that’s what I saw in a photo of her from a good while ago. Tats come and go I understand.
      
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      January 17, 2024 11:00am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Time to start the 1000 cuts
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:15am
- Grunter
  
  Brilliant!!
  
  If you zoom in you can almost see the hairy armpits!
  
  Wishart won’t let this one go
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:18am
- Ghost
  
  It’s not her
  
  No tattoo, and Chloe wears rings on both hands, no rings.
  
  https://twitter.com/GregAFC/status/1747180147269394684?s=20
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:59am
  - Grunter
    
    Make up over the tats & take the rings off before entering the crime scene.
    
    Chloe’s not very bright, but maybe she has done this before so knows a few tricks?
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:46am
    - Ghost
      
      It’s not her, it doesn’t even look like her.
      
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      January 17, 2024 10:59am
    - sungsamning
      
      Is that a blowfly tattooed on her forearm?
      
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      January 17, 2024 7:07pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I find it rather curious that the Greens needed to state “no other Green MP was involved”. Do they usually operate in pairs?
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:55am
Matt Long

So now the white colonists are forcing young strong women of colour with mental fragility to resign over five fingered discounts, how about introducing random grug testing for same?
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January 17, 2024 8:32am
- Matt Long
  
  Drug testing dammit.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:55am
- Gravelroad
  
  On Te News last night there was an item re the rescued fisherman who fell overboard and whose boat eventually washed ashore.
  Of course, it had been ransacked and vandalised because of entitlement to pirate treasure or something.
  The man’s son said it was local people who had “habits to fund” who would have stolen high-end items to sell.
  Constant use of expensive illegal drugs is so cool eh.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:59am
  - cmm
    
    “habits to fund” is just more excuse making. It wasn’t me, it was my habit. Bullshit.
    
    Criminal entitlement is on the rise. Anyone interfering with this is labelled a “nark” and threatened.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:09am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Looks like that $2.75M get-off-meth program for Hawkes Bay Mongrel Members has let a few slip through
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/wairoa-mongrel-mob-member-arrested-after-assault-in-violent-mahia-incident/B7CUO6HLAZE5XEQQVHYLNVQYFY/
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:20am
  - kevn
    
    Gravel… The local environmentalists ‘at work’. Hope they can track the stolen high end items and the boat is still salvageable.
    The East Coast, another area off the holiday plan.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:22am
  - Clyde
    
    That was always on the cards. As soon as I saw the pix of the boat on the beach I thought that would be ransacked by locals. Reminded me of the train and trucks that were caught between slips at the time of the Kaikoura earthquake. All looted by the locals.
    
    Bet Mr Plod is not too active on trying to catch the dirty mongrels either.
    
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    January 17, 2024 12:55pm
Matt Long

The best that can be said, is at least the fire risk is low.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/chicago-area-tesla-charging-stations-lined-with-dead-cars-in-freezing-cold-a-bunch-of-dead-robots-out-here
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January 17, 2024 8:34am
- cmm
  
  Well the only reason the fire risk is lower is that the batteries refuse to charge, or massively reduce charge currents, below a certain temperature.
  
  Low temps stuff with the chemistry and can cause failure or malfunction (inc fire).
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:38am
  - Lance
    
    Any Lithium technology batteries attempting to be charged below zero deg C will result in plated Anodes and will catastrophically fail
    
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    January 17, 2024 1:25pm
Tomtoddy

It is difficult to be categorical on such things, but I believe the biggest problem facing NZ (and maybe the world) is the deliberate agenda run by the mainstream media. You might want to challenge this by saying its education, welfare, Māori issues, climate change etc but many of those problems would go away, or lessen significantly if the media was not so perniciously biassed.

There are endless examples – the treatment of Ghahraman v Uffindel, endless reference to unusual weather irrespective whether it actually happens softening us up for climate change policies, the endless attacks on Luxon before he can get to run his agenda, Māori language thrust down our throat….. there are daily illustrations of an evil plot to influence.

The media has inordinate power and they know it. They also know that the many attempts, even KiwiBlog or Reality Radio can only pull relatively small audience support. Why?? Because we are turning out brain washed or uninterested kids from schools run by the same lefties.

The common denominator is the universities. They are now a hotbed of communists and left wing lecturers who have never had to earn a living in a rough world. The humanities dominate. the sciences are in the back seat. Woke liberals run the whole teaching/learning scene.

Could it be changed? Could balance be restored? On many days I despair. The scales have tipped too far. Right wingers and conservatives are busy individuals who shy away from “organising” and campaigning. Cycles come and they go but things look very bleak right now.
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January 17, 2024 8:36am
- Debsta
  
  I thoroughly concur sir! I have been banging this drum for quite some time now. The blatant bias of msm further distorts reality for the average unthinking voter and the indoctrinated under 40s. It is the single biggest problem we face in returning humanity to sanity. And yes, sometimes I despair too.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:59am
- MCōs
  
  The media has inordinate power and Rupert Murdoch for one knows it.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:03am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Rupert Murdoch for one knows it.’
    
    yes I for one am grateful for the balance he provides against the monolithic state funded propaganda machine that today passes as the so called fourth estate .
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:16am
    - MCōs
      
      Governments change
      Murdochs dont
      
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      January 17, 2024 9:34am
  - Colinxy
    
    Yes, we owe Murdoch a huge debt of gratitude for going after L.Ron Hubbard and his cult since the 60s (starting in Australia).
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:24am
  - virtualmark
    
    Fox doesn’t cover the news, it incites it.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:26am
- kowtow
  
  Govts , in the west, of all stripes would not have got away with the Covidscam draconianism they imposed , had it not been for the media pardy hyping it up for all they were worth .
  
  And te media pardy are still hyping it right now , along with another of the lies they perpetuate .
  
  Disproportionate effect on certain ethnicities due to “systemic inequity”.( nzme , today) .
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:12am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Universities have been very left wing for a long time, and have been accused of corrupting the next generation for just as long. They have never succeeded. There are a couple of newer problems though.
  
  1. There are many more people going to university now, most of whom should be in work or apprenticeships instead. Certainly we should fix that by making funding scholarship-based not universal.
  
  2. We should take teacher education away from universities because they are doing it so badly. Teachers colleges are not the answer either. Probably it can be something that just happens in schools as a type of apprenticeship.
  
  The issue with the media is there is no money in it, which means journalists are low paid, which in turn means people with strong analytical and reasoning skills now tend to choose better paying jobs elsewhere. I don’t have an answer to that other than just letting legacy media die off and see what springs up to replace it.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:14am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Historically it’s been arts degrees that have been brainwashing students.
    The big difference between now and the past unfortunately is that all Government departments have been told to treat arts degrees as superior (due to their supposed ability to think outside the box), allowing them to justify filling all the bureaucracies with brainwashed ideologues. This includes Treasury for example (who are given courses to catch up on what they don’t know – which is anything).
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:33am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Universities have been defined by radicalism for 100+ years, always to far left of mainstream, but slowly pulling society to left as elites are educated and then move out to affect the world through their lifetimes.
    
    That is because academic advancement is determined by development of new ‘scholarship’ and mainstream is by definition old hat. Radicalism (the more controversial the better) is rewarded, conservatism punished. Post modernism (embracing Marxist everything-is-conflict views) and the abandonment of objectivity gave license to unbridled growth of increasingly extreme idiocy dressed in academic raiments. Reaching the current state of affairs where it is no longer possible to discern parody from reality (eg the Grievance studies affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievance_studies_affair )
    
    Unless or until that perverse incentive is fixed – removing professional reward for tendentious woke sophistry – academia will never correct.
    
    Really the only fix is to stop funding their idiocy. It is decades past producing anything of value to the world, the environment within universities punishes dissent – like a woke seminary, with naive, ignorant and mostly female students who prioritize peer acceptance over truth not able to push back against the stupid being forced down their gullets. The culture within universities cannot be fixed with the existing ‘true believer’ staff in place.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:06am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Mainstream media is effectively owned by a handful of corporations. It is simply a tool of the owners, to influence and propagandise depending who the major shareholders currently are, and what the latest ‘thing’ is that they’ve decided is important.
  
  It’s been like that for decades, though I only truly realised this after the first Gulf War.
  
  I gullibly applauded in January 1991 when we got reports of cruise missiles flying down the streets of Baghdad destroying buildings and killing people. Took me a while to wean myself off the habit, but certainly since the earliest days of the covid fraud, I haven’t watched more than a couple of hours of terrestrial TV.
  I check headlines from time to time to see what the latest narrative is, that’s about it.
  
  More and more I’ve decided to focus on what I can see right in front of me, I can’t influence anything else in any meaningful way.
  Life has certainly become a lot more simple and pleasurable.
  
  I check in every now and then to throw a handful of sand in the gears. 😂
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:20am
  - MCōs
    
    “Mainstream media is effectively owned by a handful of corporations”
    Kowtow says they are funded by the government
    So what is it?
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:37am
    - Opie
      
      Ownership and source of funding are not the same…
      
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      January 17, 2024 10:27am
    - What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
      
      Both.
      CNN, Newscorp etc. are corporations.
      RNZ, TV3, TVNZ, MaoriTV and maybe others receive government funding, not least from that PJIF or whatever the hell it was called.
      
      But I’m pretty sure you already know this.
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:24pm
- Grunter
  
  TomToddy – I agree.
  
  The light at the end of the tunnel, IMO, is a few years away (maybe even 10yrs). Balance will ultimately be re-stored as reality kicks in. The money will ultimately run out (almost there now).
  
  However, most of the world is about to go through a massive phase of chaos as all this nuttiness implodes around us. Global debt, Global Boiling scam, even more extreme wokism, race riots/wars, wide spread regional/global wars, possibly another pandemic scam,…. who knows exactly, but things can not remain as they are without a big collapse of somesort.
  
  Then we get a new phase of returning to some sort of sanity. This is how it always happens. Typically in 80-90 year cycles. 80 years ago we had WWII, as one example.
  
  The US is in for a horror show. Red States vs Blue States are like 2 different countries. Illegal immigrants streaming through the southern border in their thousands. And the Trump spark is only just starting.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:34am
- cmm
  
  Well you could zoom out one step further and ask:
  Why do people listen to, and support, this screwed up media?
  
  I think a lot of it is that humans, and human society, are designed for adversity. Over the last 50 years it has got to be too easy. As a result we’re out there trying to “solve” problems that don’t exist and are creating more problems.
  
  University used to be a thing of scarcity. People either went there to learn a useful craft or the very rich might send their kids there for a useless classical education. Nowadays everyone and their dog goes to university. Few have the capability of pursuing real productive studies so we see the rise of useless degrees.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:44am
- Scooter
  
  Also media are legitimising crime being done by politicians, those mainly of the left. Now it seems all sorts of excuses are made for those that drink, drive drunk and crash and steal. It’s only going to send a message that it’s ok, there’s always an excuse to fall back on, mental health etc.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:52am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  Yes indeed. A constant diet of MSM leads to an ill-informed society. I take heart from a previous commenter who reminded us that in spite of the hugely left biased MSM we do have a new government and the polls are trending up for them. Where might we be with a balanced press? I believe there is a thirst for change, for better education from primary school and up. That is our strategy to tip the balance back.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:05am
- Burtland
  
  the DEI agenda on TV is massive – this propaganda is endemic on British programs
  
  cooking, pottery, woodworking, sewing, repair shows – theyve hunted out every minority group to participate in a DEI crapfest.
  
  These programs are all about social engineering and normalizing the DEI agenda. None of them are about finding the next Michelangelo.
  
  Whats worse Robertson has put this big sticky finger into SportNZ – the outcome wont be good viewing.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:41am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Not to mention historical drama – see Bridgerton, Sanditon etc & contemporary drama – see Dr Who, Midsommer Murders etc
    
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    January 17, 2024 6:54pm
Matt Long

The petty personal thievery and fraud of our esteemed elected representatives is nothing to the damage they’ve done to the country and to individuals from their lofty socialist towers.
Exhibit A, in the early 80s in Whananaki a bushman uses his life savings to buy a bush block to log to fund his retirement, the government bans logging and renders his investment close to worthless.
You may argue that cutting trees is morally wrong and that there are selective logging plans people can use to get income from forest blocks, but in effect the government just stole his life savings.
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January 17, 2024 8:43am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  Contemporary examples include state welfare infill housing & cycle lanes devaluing entire suburbs
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:02am
  - Matt Long
    
    And the businesses they killed during covid lockdowns, whilst ensuring the supermarkets stayed open and reaped the rewards.
    The stupidity, I normally do a big shop for family of five every two weeks, and for my parents and in laws during lockdown. Suddenly there I am only able to buy a couple of loaves of bread at a time, having to line up 2 metres away from a horde of other people 2 or 3 times a week.
    It’s like they wanted to spread covid.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:19am
cas

I’m not sure how the Herald and Stuff decide what to publish under a paywall. None of the articles on the wedding of the century was paywalled ( perhaps no-one would pay to access it) but this morning Stuff has an article about the record number of rescues etc surf lifesavers carried out over the weekend. Not something I would have thought appropriate for a paywall as it might have contained some beach safety tips.
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January 17, 2024 8:43am
Bridgenag

Acute kidney injury after vaccination: New Zealand government scientists changed their data without explanation
The data showed the vaccines were causing kidney injury. So the data magically changed when the paper was submitted for publication. The paper also showed >25X higher risk of myocarditis post vax.

https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/acute-kidney-injury-after-vaccination?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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January 17, 2024 8:48am
- leoj
  
  Huge swathes of the population poisoned by these power-hungry, control-freak monsters.
  
  The problems have been swept under the rug.
  
  Previous government was paid off by the drug companies. Criminals, the lot of them.
  
  Still seeing elderly, living in abject fear, wearing masks. Pathetic to see the fear in their eyes.
  
  Ardern couldn’t care less about the damage she did. She should be in prison.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:55am
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder how many of our politicians are following proceedings of the WEF in Davos this week.

This year’s theme is Rebuilding Trust in the Future,

and focused on the “principles driving trust, including transparency, consistency and accountability.”

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/12/davos-2024-what-to-expect-and-whos-coming/
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January 17, 2024 8:50am
- mandk
  
  I suggest the best thing the WEF could do to rebuild trust in the future would be to cease its activities and disband itself.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:27am
- I remember when
  
  focused on the “principles driving trust, including transparency, consistency and accountability.”
  
  Not the principals?
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:57am
- NothingLeft
  
  A tacit admission that all the institutions of our world have destroyed trust with their lies and anti-democratic/misanthropic elitist agendas.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:12am
Pavel

So again a couple of tourists have been hassled while traveling around the country. Not long ago I myself spent 2 weeks campervaning around the South Island and never once had a problem with anything they speak about. Nobody ever came into the campgrounds we stayed at and smashed up our campervan and the staff and other guests were always extremely accommodating and overly polite.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/01/american-tourists-harassed-van-destroyed-by-rude-and-angry-kiwis.html
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January 17, 2024 8:53am
- John Loveridge
  
  You have to ask why the trouble seemed to keep following them around. It’s far from the usual experience of travelers in New Zealand.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:15am
Bridgenag

Davos Bacchanal Redux
It’s Davos Day!

“Davos’s party secrets: Caviar, magic mushrooms, champagne and A-list private concerts

Forget the fondue.

Caviar, magic mushrooms, gold-leaf desserts, A-list selfies, $2,500-per-night hookers and secret dinners are likely to be on the menu as scores of private jets touch down in Switzerland as soon as Sunday to bring the world’s elite to the small Alpine resort town of Davos for what’s officially known as The World Economic Forum 2024.

More than 3000 masters of the universe are expected to show up for the 54th annual event at the Alpine resort nestled in the snowy Landwasser valley.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/davos-bacchanal-redux?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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January 17, 2024 8:54am
greybeard

Stuff stuffs-up their own website.
What a mess.
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January 17, 2024 9:05am
- John Loveridge
  
  I tried to take a very rare look at Stuff to see what everybody’s going on about. It won’t even load. It gets stuck in some kind of reload loop.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:16am
  - Damocles11
    
    Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
    
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    January 17, 2024 9:02pm
Maggie Pie

Heard them saying on the Platform that ex mayor of Wello, Celica Wade-Brown is Gollys replacement.
Just had a quik squiz at her LinkedIn profile… sounds like she might be more in the mode of a Jenette Fitsimon rather than a Keyyifah wearing f-wit.

Shaun Plunket described her “as a very nice person, but completely out to lunch”
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January 17, 2024 9:06am
- mandk
  
  Very apt description by Shaun.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:13am
- greybeard
  
  She cost the Wellington ratepayers millions for that cycleway to Island Bay.
  Just another loony lefty spending other peoples’ money on dreams.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:17am
  - MCōs
    
    Whatever the pros and cons of the cycleway the decision is made by the council not the mayor
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:50am
    - MCōs
      
      Don’t agree?
      
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      January 17, 2024 6:40pm
    - greybeard
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/82845108/six-years-a-look-back-at-celia-wadebrowns-as-mayor
      “It’s the Island Bay cycleway that Wade-Brown will be most remembered for. It was first suggested in 2013, and when construction was scheduled to start in 2014 that residents started to raise real concern over a lack of consultation.
      
      In June 2015 a divided council voted to push the project through, and once completed the cycleway continued to divide the community, with many protesting against the curb side design.
      
      June 2016 saw a report released damning the council’s planning and design of the changes to Island Bay’s streets, and recommending a review of the cycleway.
      
      At the time Wade-Brown said there was plenty of political will for spending money on better cycleways, but when it came down to the “nitty-gritty” of delivering them, the city could be doing better.
      
      “That may mean that there’s revision to [the] Island Bay [cycleway] … I don’t want to jump to what the solution might be, but we need to take into account whatever the safety audit says when it comes back.”
      
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      January 17, 2024 7:13pm
- NothingLeft
  
  “completely out to lunch” might as well be their party motto. They’ve heard of the real world, rationality and logic but want nothing to do with them.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:17am
Tasman devil

Thought of a verse to the tune of the Police’s
“Every Move You Make” that sums up the Golriz situation (perhaps irony in it being to a Police song?)

Every dress you take
Every CV you fake
Every law you break
Every Jew you hate
We’ll be watching you.
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January 17, 2024 9:06am
Maggie Pie

Be interesting to hear that flesh-crawling creep John Campbell’s take on Golly 😀
They’re saying he was the first staffer at 1Ewes to be accredited a ‘Rainbow Tick’.

https://twitter.com/ajthompson13/status/1747150427278434761
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January 17, 2024 9:30am
- NothingLeft
  
  Ticks are parasites that suck the blood of their hosts. So perhaps that is an apt description of the “sanctimonious little creep”.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:19am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    OMG… excuse me while i barf 🙁
    
    https://twitter.com/JohnJCampbell/status/1747011714699431946
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:53am
    - Ghost
      
      The shirt says it all
      
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      January 17, 2024 11:55am
    - Jethrod
      
      All you can say is JC is the one who looks clean.
      
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      January 17, 2024 1:14pm
ClanMcleod

More evidence being observed overseas and acknowledged in mainstream media. More and more it is becoming evident there are problems with the mRNA vaccines developed for covid.

Long Covid-19 infections and multiple Covid-19 vaccinations might let hidden diseases surface, weaken immunity and lead to cancer and brain disorders, according to authorities from Chulalongkorn and Rangsit…

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2723934/long-covid-vaccines-may-cause-disease-and-death-chula-rangsit.

My very good friend, a fit and healthy, active surfer and golfer, died just before Xmas. He was diagnosed with extremely aggressive pancreatic cancer. He’s one of those who reluctantly took the jab to save his business.

I cannot prove the jab was or wasn’t responsible, but until we start investigating and checking each time their is a ‘sudden death’ there will always be a suspicion. I certainly am convinced it is responsible. But it is beyond time for the NZ government to acknowledge there are alarm bells and serious investigation needs to be had soon.

In the meanwhile, stop bloody pushing this shit as ‘safe and effective’ – it is totally impossible for them to claim this with evidence. It isn’t true.
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January 17, 2024 9:33am
- MCōs
  
  “I cannot prove the jab was or wasn’t responsible”
  Of course you can’t so don’t infer it might have been the cause
  Pancreatic cancer is aggressive. A friend of mine died from it within eleven months of diagnosis. Doctor thought he was crook with something else so it was a huge shock.
  That was ten years ago.
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:03am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    For the cranks, any death post-vaccination must have been caused by the vaccine.
    
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    January 17, 2024 10:08am
    - Taieri
      
      For the cranks, any death post-vaccination must have been caused by the vaccine
      ———–
      
      And for the non-cranks?
      By Covid…?
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:21pm
  - Grunter
    
    Of course you could “infer”.
    
    Cancer rates have spiked across many countries post-vaccination campaigns. It is illogical (arguably criminal) to turn a blind eye and not question a link between a neo-jab that contains DNA contamination, and a sudden spike in cancer, heart attacks, etc.
    
    Read the Pfizer papers (you know the ones originally locked up for 75 years!!). If you go get jabbed after that then you deserve the consequences!
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:13am
    - Mike
      
      Cancer rates have not spiked.
      
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      January 17, 2024 11:56am
    - MCōs
      
      I have had cancer in the last year.
      I had covid vaccines before and one in December just passed
      If only I’d known!
      
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      January 17, 2024 12:15pm
- Ghost
  
  Here’s one for you clan
  
  https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/01/joseph-mercola/most-lethal-drug-ever-why-wont-the-fda-stop-it/
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:43pm
I remember when

Is there nothing now that isn’t caused by mental problems which resolve the participant from responsibility?
Said mental problem being the result of excess pressure from working on behalf of others – selfless.
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January 17, 2024 9:33am
Lee C

For what it s worth I think we need to consider what pathology looks like when discussing Golriz.

But first, let’s look at what healthy looks like.

Healthy looks like being responsible for one’s own actions.
Owning mistakes, learning from them and moving on.
It involves curating who you associate with to the extent you cut out any bad influences.
It means striving for honesty and openess in your transactions.
It also requires an element of gratitude – the opposite of this being entitlement.

So we have a person who is pathologised not only by a sense of entitlement and lack of ownershop of her actions, but who is supported in this by associating with others who exhibit similar traits.

The logical conclusion – based on Golriz’s actions and the kinds of support she has received is that the Green Party is a pathologised organisation.

This will explain why it cannot work out how to extricate itself from the tangled web it is weaving for itself. It simply is not functioning in a healthy way.

This is not to criticise, rather to critique. They would all do better to own the problems and develop ways to over come them rather than trying to plaster over them with more inventions.

Unless The Green Party can do this, there is little hope for Golriz, as a person if she has any desire to remedy her current problems.

It would be like the Artful Dodger asking Fagin for personal development advice.
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January 17, 2024 9:42am
Ghost

How to do the weather. Create 3 models and see which one is right….

A meteorological drought could be possible in the interior South Island if the current hot, dry conditions continue, Niwa says.

The latest Niwa Hotspot Report, issued last week, says the long term outlook through to early February is for very dry soil conditions affecting parts of both islands, along with a risk for meteorological drought to develop in the interior South Island.

Niwa meteorologist Seth Carrier said the forecaster had modelled three scenarios for the next month – one for dry conditions, one for normal and one for wet conditions.

Article
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January 17, 2024 9:45am
- krazykiwi
  
  A drought could happen if it doesn’t rain, they say? Wow. I love learning new stuff 😉
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:51am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Someone in the forecasting said words to the affect, you don’t have to have heavy rain, lightening, thunder, and wind for it to be a thunderstorm!
  Can’t find it now – amazing!
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:03am
- mogg
  
  Go to ‘WeatherWatch.co.nz’ get the app or just very detailed forecast
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:27am
- Jethrod
  
  Covering all options so they can say we were right.
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:17pm
I remember when

Newshub weather last night.
Whanganui is going to reach a temperature of 29
degrees and there is a heat alert.
Taumarunui and Palmerston North are expected to register 28 degrees –
no mention of any heat alerts.
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January 17, 2024 9:53am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It was warm here yesterday, but no warmer than last summer, or the thirty before them. Heat alerts are a load of tosh.
  
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  January 17, 2024 3:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/maori-king-says-maori-can-lead-for-all-and-we-are-prepared-to-do-that-yeah-right/
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January 17, 2024 9:59am
- rockape
  
  But what about those of us who don’t want to be led by tribal leaders?
  
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  January 17, 2024 10:45am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It’s just Elite Maori muscle flexing and testing the waters.
    
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    January 17, 2024 11:42am
- Grunter
  
  tick, tick, tick……….. BOOM!
  
  Their Hui on the 20th will be revealing. Their not-so-secret plan of Separatism (Apartheid) will become even more apparent.
  
  Can we all agree that (Apartheid) is what it actually is and call it that? It’s not co-governance that they are espousing – it’s Apartheid.
  
  “Stop Apartheid”
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:44am
  - Jethrod
    
    Are Nga Puhi going to the hui?
    
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    January 17, 2024 1:18pm
- Burtland
  
  does the King actually say this or is it Godzilla Tuku talking
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:53am
Maggie Pie

HITLER’S RAGE ……where’s Clint? 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/2ETEKA/status/1747084663527760258

Would have to be the best yet. LOL!!
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January 17, 2024 10:26am
- Bridgenag
  
  so clever
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:41pm
- Colville
  
  “not everyone can stand next to a genocidal maniac and smile…she will be missed” 🙂
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:41pm
I remember when

Ghahraman was the first person to arrive in New Zealand as a refugee to become a politician in 2017 –
or did she become a refugee after she arrived in New Zealand?
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January 17, 2024 10:30am
Gravelroad

$tuff seems to have mucked around with their online news format again.
Ok, I realise it is to try to force readers to pay money to subscribe to their “services”.
But one of the inmates here likes to read the local paper link – especially the death notices (old see?).
Local paper still available but no link to death notices.
Why would this be?
ASFAIK family members/funeral directors pay to have death notices published.
Because in a way, they are little different to paid advertisements.
So why would they be excluded from the on-line paper?
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January 17, 2024 10:37am
- greybeard
  
  Death Notices are listed under the “More” subsection accessed via the menu icon of 3 horizontal bars.
  Say “thank you” to the 12-year-old who designed their new site
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:01pm
kiwikidsnz

Pierre Pollievre defines woke
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gnU75zl_gok
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January 17, 2024 11:17am
slightlyrighty

https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2024/01/where-people-walk.html

Chris Trotter nails it again…..
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January 17, 2024 12:13pm
- alex Masterley
  
  I always wonder who Trotter is talking about when he refers to the “left”.
  I used to think that he, Trotter, was “left” but now I dont think so.
  Times are changing…
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:36pm
  - Bobba Fret
    
    A lot of people on the left have dis-owned him but he was always left through and through.
    
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    January 17, 2024 3:55pm
Maggie Pie

‘Golrix will be remembered (if at all) for the fomenting of divisions, violence, envy – and theft. Hardly a legacy anyone should be proud of’

https://buff.ly/4aYSZIj
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January 17, 2024 12:45pm
- mogg
  
  Years ago I shared a London flat with a girl from Auckland, well educated plenty of money, no need to work. Every day she would go out shoplifting “ just for fun and excitement”. She was caught several times but just kept right on going, she became addicted to it. Her bedroom was like Aladdin’s cave.
  In the Summer she bought a share in a VW Combi van and went on a shoplifting spree around Europe, my now wife watched her in action saying she had “nerves of steel”. Shoplifting is a twisted mindset – why pay when you can just walk off with what you want.
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:28pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I can actually understand how some people would become addicted to it.
    
    When we were away over Christmas, I went shopping at the local Countdown. God only knows what came over me, but when I went thru the self-checkout, I knowingly scanned the Jazz apples in as being ‘Rose’, which were half the price!
    
    It wasn’t until I drove out of the carpark, that the realization hit…. I’d actually gotten away with it. The feeling verged on orgasmic!!
    
    I can only imagine the ‘absolute buzz’ it must give a girl nicking a 6 grand frock. 😛
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:00pm
    - Ghost
      
      I’ve been to the gp a few times where he’s said to not bother paying just go home and rest, pay latter. I feel guilty just walking through reception and not paying
      
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      January 17, 2024 3:04pm
    - mogg
      
      Living life on the edge
      
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      January 17, 2024 4:50pm
  - MCōs
    
    I worked with someone I knew well. Her husband thought he knew her well too.
    What nobody knew was she was pinching money from the company by doctoring cheques. A thousand here, four thousand there.
    She didn’t need the money and frittered it away on crap.
    I asked her why she did it and she said it was so easy it became a compulsion
    I worked at two other small offices where admin people were caught stealing money to pay off gambling debts
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:58pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      What is it that those three jobs have in common, Cossie?
      
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      January 17, 2024 7:06pm
Fuzzysnuggleduck

Wow – Winston Peter’s speech and he is ripping into the Maori party, both with humour and facts.
https://twitter.com/2ETEKA/status/1732284739091050694
Mocking them to their very faces!
Laughing at their re-imagining of what the Treaty is, or forgetting the likes of Apirana Ngata to Te Rangi Hiroa/Buck.
Laughing at cowboy hats and getting face tattoos…even the name of NZ becoming Aotearoa (i.e. the north island).
He is really having fun, and seems to be actually sincerely meaning what he says!…I know, I know; just words for now, but it is music to my ears.
Hope he is there both as a plain speaking Maori and a spine to Te Reo Luxon for a few terms yet – and this is from someone who did NOT vote for him!
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January 17, 2024 12:50pm
mogg

Trotter has a very interesting opinion about the sheer nastiness and internal pressures within the Greens and Labour being very difficult places to work. He makes a lot of sense .
https://youtu.be/-VFDDvfZqGs?si=cjbsFrSWPRwosUvh.
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January 17, 2024 1:08pm
Ghost

Laughing, stuffs advice to people having problems with their site, remove your adblocker. Stupid person, no one is going to do that. I’m going to guess your readership drops. Also reviewing whether they will have a search function. Wow. Who the hell is the idiot behind this.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-us/350128999/stuffconzs-new-website-bright-bold-and-innovative-core
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January 17, 2024 1:14pm
- Ghost
  
  They’ve removed the nz crime section, it will get reinstated. Gee, that’s convenient right now.
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:15pm
- greybeard
  
  It looks as though it was designed by a 12 year old.
  
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  January 17, 2024 1:58pm
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Any self-respecting 12 year old will tell you it actually looks like it was designed by their grandmother.
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:20pm
    - Colville
      
      was the grandmother colourblind or just tasteless??
      
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      January 17, 2024 2:45pm
- Rich Prick
  
  All I see is a swirling “S” thing. Who would have thought eliminating leftist crap from the world could be so easy.
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:26pm
- krazykiwi
  
  If Stuff were a death-row prisoner the question “Any last requests” would be answered with “Remove the AdBlocker”. That’s how close the end is.
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:27pm
Ghost

Hmmm

Drunk driving, causing an accident. Resisting arrest. burglary where he assaulted the person after breaking into their house

A British man convicted of four charges in the Timaru District Court has been granted permission to return home before returning to “face the music” in May.

Article

I will be surprised if he returns to nz.
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January 17, 2024 1:53pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  and see where the dudge is a previous ‘public defender’…appointed to the bench by david parker .
  
  all that is wrong with this country that needs addressing
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:17pm
  - Ghost
    
    I’ve posted this judge before here, he gave home detention for indecent act on a teenager
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/132727175/home-detention-for-indecent-act-on-teenager
    
    Notice the lawyer says it is the first offence of any kind he had committed in NZ. I find that statement interesting
    
    Another case. God our judges are pathetic
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/132726637/permanent-name-suppression-for-young-man-with-truly-tragic-upbringing
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:29pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      YIP! Until there are meaningful sentences handed down to violent criminals, regardless of their ‘background’, this type of crime will continue.
      A legacy of Labors six years soft-on-crime approach.
      
      Let’s hope this new government delivers on its promises.
      
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      January 17, 2024 2:42pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I see his young daughter is in NZ. If he does not return then he won’t get a visitor’s visa in future.
  
  But, it’s an odd decision.
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:10pm
Ghost

Police leave with a large bag from Golriz’s house

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350149311/police-speak-former-mp-golriz-ghahraman
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January 17, 2024 2:36pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  ‘FIVE police officers sitting outside her house in unmarked cars since 7am this morning’.
  
  What were they doing…waiting for her to wake up?
  
  LOL!!
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:49pm
  - Ghost
    
    Using siri to learn how to speak Green.
    
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    January 17, 2024 2:59pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    5 cars … because they suspected at least 5 would be needed for repatriating huge quantity of stolen goods
    
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    January 17, 2024 3:16pm
  - cmm
    
    5 cops for a bit of shoplifting?
    Is there maybe more to this?
    
    Or maybe it is the cops trying to do one of their “show of force” things so they can claim they are taking it seriously.
    
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    January 17, 2024 4:35pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    One to charge her and the rest there in case any of these constants threats of death and sexual violence appear.
    
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    January 17, 2024 5:45pm
  - John Loveridge
    
    They must have been anticipating some furious resistance from the delicate little 43-year-old woman.
    
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    January 17, 2024 5:51pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Haven’t they heard of Dawn Raids?
    
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    January 17, 2024 7:10pm
- Maggie's partner
  
  That Cops / Golly interview in full:
  
  Cop That’s a nice dress
  
  GG: Thanks
  
  Cops: How much was it?
  
  GG: Come again?
  
  Cops: What did you pay for it?
  
  GG: Oh right, er, I can’t remember
  
  Cops: Did you actually pay for it?
  
  GG: I’ll be paying for it for years to come
  
  Cops: Like Afterpay?
  
  GG: Sort of
  
  Cops: You are facing some very serious allegations
  
  GG: I faced a few over the years and I’m still here
  
  Cops: You could go to prison
  
  GG: Oh good, then I’ll be a real victim
  
  Cops: Have you got anything to say in your defence?
  
  GG: Yes, don’t you think I look pretty in this dress?
  
  Cops: GG, I am arresting you on charges of……..
  
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  January 17, 2024 2:59pm
  - lifesgood
    
    The only thing wrong with that is that plod probably won’t arrest her or Scotties will have been bribed to drop the charges.
    
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    January 17, 2024 4:12pm
    - kevn
      
      life… Bribed or threatened?
      
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      January 17, 2024 5:03pm
- Matt Long
  
  Has Stuff changed their site so that it wont open with an adblocker or is everyone getting the same great experience?
  
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  January 17, 2024 3:48pm
  - Inandout
    
    ML, read somewhere that Brave browser works better.
    
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    January 17, 2024 3:55pm
  - cmm
    
    Brave is very good at mimicking an ad fetch and sidestepping adblockers.
    
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    January 17, 2024 7:07pm
Swifty

It was the pressure of being a woman of colour wot done her in:

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/17-01-2024/the-dramatic-exodus-of-brown-women-from-parliament-is-no-surprise?utm_source=spinoff-share-button&utm_medium=twitter
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January 17, 2024 3:42pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Clearly nothing to do with being a thief.
  
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  January 17, 2024 4:29pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  It is important that Spotify have the freedom to publish rubbish.
  BUT, I have seen how far they are dependent upon taxpayers’ funds, and I find that abhorrent.
  
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  January 17, 2024 4:54pm
  - Swifty
    
    I quite agree.
    
    They are free to write any old shit they want.
    
    But it’s the millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer money the Spinoff have taken for writing their shit that deeply troubles me.
    
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    January 17, 2024 5:00pm
- septic skeptic
  
  What a load of bollocks! What does Chapman want here? Perhaps GG fully reinstated and an apology from Scotties and the other place, plus free clobber for life for adding to her stress!
  Just who is the criminal and who the victim in this scenario?
  
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  January 17, 2024 5:36pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  GG’s departure is certainly dramatic, I’ll give them that.
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:12pm
Hugh Jarse

It’s the nasty cis white male wot dun it. Caused Kiri to get pissed and prang her car, caused Metiria to claim more benefit that she was entitled to, caused Dr Kerekere and Meka to be nasty people, caused Golriz to flog the bare essentials she need to dress well, Marama to walk out in front of motorcycles, and Tory to be a drunk exhibitionist.

It’s amazing that white cis males have been able to influence these strong independent, sassy women so easily. Just don’t ask about taking personal responsibility or accountability.

Sadly these role models are demonstrating to young woman that victimhood is the path to follow, it explains any bad behaviour and is a much better pathway than being strong and independent, responsible and accountable. I wonder what the old style feminists would say about these weak women and if this state is what they intended ?.
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- cmm
  
  Naah, it’s Mossad! Got on their shitlist for helping Palestine…
  
  Or maybe Trump is still pissed off about them going to protest his inauguration.
  
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  January 17, 2024 4:38pm
cmm

Driver of MKB803: please start using the bus.
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January 17, 2024 4:36pm
- H. Upmann
  
  Wouldn’t happen to be an Aqua or Prius driver you are referring to?
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:00pm
Tauhei Notts

Latest update on the USA odds.
Trump $2.32, Biden $3.10, Haley $17, Michelle Obama $18.50 and Newsom $29.
Haley had been about $11 six weeks ago, got as short as $7.50 but has drifted in the market. The gap between Trump and Biden has widened, but I regret I am unable to provide exact figures.
I’ll give it four weeks and see what trend has occurred.
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January 17, 2024 4:57pm
- Jake Dee
  
  Who is giving these odds?
  
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  January 17, 2024 5:59pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Betfair on their international site.
    Their odds are the best.
    
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    January 17, 2024 8:52pm
Ghost

Golriz charged

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350149311/police-speak-former-mp-golriz-ghahraman
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January 17, 2024 5:08pm
- Steve Todd
  
  Unfortunately for poor me, I’m still getting the ‘S’ uploading symbol on the purple background (desk-top computer). I ran it for 20 minutes earlier today; no change.
  
  Ah, well. If Stuff prefer me not to access their website anymore, that’s fine by me. There are alternatives at my easy disposal.
  
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  January 17, 2024 5:20pm
  - Ghost
    
    Just for you https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-charge-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-over-shoplifting-allegations/2GVYVW65IVG4VAN2SVGUW6GAXU/
    
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    January 17, 2024 5:26pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      Thanks, Ghost. I appreciate that.
      
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      January 17, 2024 5:48pm
    - Letterman
      
      Amazing what impact a bit of media coverage has on a slack Police arse.
      
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      January 17, 2024 8:02pm
      - Ghost
        
        I know. How dare the police not prioritise this above the murders, rapes, assaults, gang violence, ram raids, etc etc
        
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        January 17, 2024 8:57pm
- Swifty
  
  And so she should be.
  
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  January 17, 2024 5:26pm
- Nostradamus
  
  It appears from the Stuff article that these are initial charges:
  
  In a publicly released statement, police did not name the person charged, but said it related to an investigation that was “subject to ongoing public interest”. They said it related to incidents at a Ponsonby retailer that allegedly occurred on 21 and 23 December 2023.
  
  The alleged Wellington incident (and any others) haven’t yet resulted in police charges.
  
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  January 17, 2024 5:50pm
  - MCōs
    
    Don’t worry I’m sure you’ll get your pound of flesh
    
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    January 17, 2024 5:56pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      She at least 110 pounds if she’s an ounce.
      
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      January 17, 2024 6:14pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      MCōs
      
      Don’t worry I’m sure you’ll get your pound of flesh
      
      I wouldn’t have thought my comment could be interpreted as taking pleasure in Golriz’s personal situation. I simply made an observation based on a media article. So that’s a silly response from you – I’m sure you can do better.
      
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      January 17, 2024 6:46pm
- Scooter
  
  So it should come out who was the Green Party person who returned the item. Bets on it’s Chloe.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:36pm
MCōs

I have a Honda HRV which uses less than 7lit of petrol/100km
The price of a litre of petrol includes 85c excise tax, which I understand is the equivalent of road user charge. So that’s about $60/1000km
The new RUC for fully electric cars will be $76/1000km from 1-April
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January 17, 2024 5:52pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The additional $16 can be put towards Fire & Emergency services given EVs tendency to self immolate, and anything left can go towards battery recycling.
  
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  January 17, 2024 6:23pm
  - cmm
    
    EVs are heavier than their equivalent ICE vehicles. This translates into more wear and tear.
    
    The $76/1000km is in line with diesel cars.
    
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    January 17, 2024 7:05pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  7 lit of petrol equates to about $21.00 per hundred km’s or $210.00 per 1000 km’s.
  
  So a RUC of $76.00 per 1000 km’s equates to about $7.60 per 100 km’s.
  
  The EV still seems to be the financial winner, especially when you consider the low maintenance costs.
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:00pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Does that maintenance cost factor in the cost of battery replacement which may well become more expensive as their material/transport cost accumulate. Plus the chance of a battery disposal levy as the numbers increase those increased vehicle sales need new batteries. Obviously some of the vehicle manufacturers have done the math and looked at TRUE costs for the life of the vehicle from the drawing board to the eventual crusher. The clean car subsidy was just a starter as other motorists were already being leaned on in an overt form of additional subsidies. It is a bit like how the second hand vehicle imports killed off the seven local vehicle manufacturers.
    
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    January 18, 2024 8:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  76/1000?
  Well they got the subsidy. No?
  It should be up there, the cars are heavier. I will leave the rest of RUC about heavier to you.
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:04pm
- rouppe
  
  The $76 is the same as I pay for my diesel. Which gets economy in the 5’s on a trip.
  
  The wee eV petals can just quit whining and shut the fuck up.
  
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  January 17, 2024 11:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

God this blog is infested with lefties. A man can’t even have his own echo chamber.
When does school start again? Will they be busy teaching???
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January 17, 2024 5:54pm
- Mike
  
  Don’t worry Steve, you will always have your favorite webshites to reinforce your delusions.
  
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  January 17, 2024 6:18pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Whatever you say teacher Mike.
    Oh, not allowed to mention that “B” word, it upsets you – oh sorry mods.
    
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    January 17, 2024 7:05pm
jon

Interesting to see that the Green Party whose who amongst their MPs, still show Golriz as an MP and with her shadow portfolios. Clearly just as slow to react, as they were when first advised about Golriz’s alleged offending.
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January 17, 2024 7:16pm
- Ghost
  
  Parliament doesn’t start until the end of the month, that is when their new mp will get sworn in, don’t think you will see a change on their website until after that
  
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  January 17, 2024 7:40pm
- rockape
  
  I think they may be a bit occupied right now.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:17pm
fernglas

I don’t understand what all the handwringing is in the press. The Green Party spokesperson for Justice was off on a holiday overseas for Christmas, and wanted some posh items to impress the people she was going to meet, so she nicked them. That’s why the two offences took place close together and just before her departure. Had stress been a contributing factor, you would expect to have seen the offending taking place over an extended period, commensurate with the stressors being there for some time, which is what the Greens have claimed. It’s just plain old greed, and coming from someone who would tell others how to behave themselves, it is hypocrisy of the worst type, worthy not just of a resignation from Parliament, but also condign punishment for letting the country down.
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January 17, 2024 7:19pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  condign punishment for letting the country down.
  
  A few days back someone on this blog suggested a suitable punishment for an MP convicted of high-end shop-lifting would be to serve some time working at a community-run second-hand store.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:24pm
  - Piniwi
    
    After serving the maximum sentence if found guilty of alleged crime/s for what might prove to be more than a oncer. There is a fair chance things will improve in the House after the recent bad apples are not tainting the barrel. Especially on the Government benches after their 3 day retreat where all members will get to hear what their contribution will need to be to help get NZ back on track.
    
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    January 18, 2024 7:39am
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350149311/police-lay-charges-following-golriz-ghahraman-shoplifting-allegations
Police have also commenced an investigation since this visit into the sudden disappearance of two police uniforms, one cap, one pair of very small police boots and a pair of Pierre Cardin handcuffs.
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January 17, 2024 7:21pm
Ghost

I’m left wondering if Winston is ok after watching this interview. Seems to be a bit of heavy breathing and only getting a few words out at a time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOwO35EXNXI
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January 17, 2024 8:04pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Possibly just tired I’m thinking.
  
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  January 17, 2024 8:45pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  60+ years of smoking.
  
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  January 17, 2024 9:33pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Maggy and it is obviously advanced COPD and is easily recognized by others who suffer from the same condition and captured by good quality mic. The downside of being a dedicated smoker and much more common than many realize but no cause for panic. He will cope with this first term of the new Government as he will know how to pace himself and is a master of delegation. He may yet prove to be the most significant Maori figure of this century if he helps stop the native rot pushed by Labour. Bringing real meaning to the phrase “for Maori by Maori” if they can really accept real equility.
    
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    January 18, 2024 7:25am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Please tell me he doesn’t still smoke.
    
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    January 18, 2024 3:07pm
NZer In Exile

Vivek Ramaswamy Joins Trump At New Hampshire Rally To Encourage Voters To Support Him

https://twitter.com/T_akinpade/status/1747496634479468619
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January 17, 2024 9:15pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkPyLcba-E
Trump is Terrifying the WEF in Davos!
You can’t be loyal to your country, and to some nebulous World Government. It’s like being loyal to your wife, and being loyal to your “Other WIfe?!?!?!?!?” (girlfriend) – it’s just not really possible.
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January 18, 2024 8:50am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lllu7QudosY
Are Yemen’s Houthis Going to Be America’s Next Afghanistan?
The US and UK have finally struck back at Houthi militants who have been terrorizing ships and boats in the Red Sea. Some see this as a way of deterring future attacks, while others argue this will just strengthen the Houthis’ resolve to continue fighting. In this episode of America Uncovered, we look at why the Houthis are doing this, what the reaction to the strikes has been and whether President Joe Biden had the authority to carry out the strikes without Congress’s approval.
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January 18, 2024 8:50am
- Jake Dee
  
  I’m not saying that you are wrong in any of the particulars here, but you have to be careful about the use of the term “Terror, Terrorist and Terrorize”. What does that mean? and is it anything more than just a “Boo word”?
  We have to become smarter than just thinking that bombs bullets and missiles flying from point A to point B are justified military response to deter aggression and ensure peace, stability and democracy, but bombs bullets and missiles flying the other way from point B to point A are criminal acts of terrorism designed to promote evil, slavery and satanism.
  
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