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Simon

Just stop shoplifting

Imagine no shoplifting
It’s easy if you try

Where were the NZ diplomatic protection squad? They are needed to protect the businesses visited by Gloriz.
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January 11, 2024 8:04am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Bloody media calling her a National advisor instead of a greenie leftie MP
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:17am
  - Jack5
    
    Stuff also calling Golriz “the first ever refugee to become an MP in New Zealand.”
    
    Refugee, or border crasher?
    
    Red Radio writes of her arrival as a ” a child asylum seeker”.
    
    Here’s how Wikipedia describes the arrival:
    
    In 1990, following the end of the Iran–Iraq War, nine-year-old Ghahraman and her family left Iran for Malaysia, ostensibly for a holiday. From Malaysia they booked flights to Fiji, with a stopover in Auckland, where they sought political asylum and were accepted as refugees.
    
    According to the UN, there were 108 million “displaced people” in the world at the end of 2022, including nearly 30 million refugees under the UN’s “mandate”.
    
    How many of them – if any – could fly to Singapore for a holiday then jump into a First World country?
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:22am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Irrelevant to claiming, or being granted, asylum.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:26am
      - leoj
        
        Stink appears to be one your best friends……
        
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        January 11, 2024 12:48pm
  - PaulP
    
    GTGFD, not sure they are calling her a Natioanal Advisor. It seems the person that offered the opinion was:
    
    Newshub:
    “A former National ministerial advisor says allegations levelled against high-profile MP Golriz Ghahraman are a “massive problem” for the Greens and the party will have “a lot of internal questions to answer”.”
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:04pm
- peterwn
  
  Seems to be a sad situation. She apparently has MS which may be affecting her behaviour. She probably should retire from Parliament which may be problematic for her. She may hang in for the rest of the current term but if Green Party see her as a burden rather than an asset she may be given an unwinnable list position.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:35am
  - Paulus
    
    Next in Line is the ex Green Mayor Celia Wade-Brown – cannot see any difference in their political misdemeanors.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:57am
    - Opie
      
      Celia wade brown – famous for moving car parks into the middle of the road to create a cycle lane so she could ride her bicycle to the council office every day. Literally
      
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      January 11, 2024 1:28pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        No, she had moved to Mt Victoria by then.
        
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        January 11, 2024 1:43pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        To try to sanitise the optics Steve?😛
        
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        January 11, 2024 8:10pm
  - suzieq
    
    Having MS is no excuse. I should know ..
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:08pm
  - cmm
    
    “She apparently has MS which may be affecting her behaviour. ”
    
    Oh, please just stop the white knighting.
    
    She felt entitled. (Allegedly etc).
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:35pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      I think a lot of us on here have various ailments (many quite serious and debilitating). I’d be more inclined to ask for help from family first (or perhaps social welfare) if I couldn’t afford basic clothing, rather than attempting stealing. If I was off my face on mind altering meds and was on lizard-brain auto-pilot which resulted in stealing, I’d explain, apologise profusely and pay it all back with interest.
      
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      January 11, 2024 8:20pm
- kevn
  
  Simon… Supermarkets call it ‘shrinkage’ and just jack up prices to cover it. Normal retailers call it thieving.
  
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  January 11, 2024 12:03pm
  - peterwn
    
    Supermarket security people are like Sampson with a crewcut. Even airline hostesses have more legal clout in comparison as various high profile people have found out the hard way.
    
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    January 11, 2024 12:27pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      If only we had a change of government to empower retailers and security more.
      
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      January 11, 2024 1:19pm
Yvette

Waikato Tainui takes govt to court over ‘blatant disregard’ for te reo Māori
Waikato Tainui claims the only way to stop te reo Māori being denigrated and eroded is to take the government to court.
The Waikato iwi claims the government’s decision to pull back on the use of the Māori language in the public sector breaches its promise under the Treaty settlement, to protect and preserve te reo.
Spokesman Tukuroirangi Morgan said a case had been filed in the High Court.

“We are holding Winston Peters and David Seymour to account for the blatant disregard for the rule of law that continued to remind this nation that there is one law for all. These are the very two people who have breached our 1995 settlement and we will hold them to account and the only way we can do that is to take them to the High Court, which is exactly what we’ve done.”
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/506435/waikato-tainui-takes-govt-to-court-over-blatant-disregard-for-te-reo-maori

This surely needs a few specific examples, which are likely, one assumes, to be in the detail of the case which “Spokesman Tukuroirangi Morgan said had been filed in the High Court.”

Can it also be assumed that, just as Labour didn’t deliver much else, the advances Morgan conceives were being made under Labour, haven’t yet happened, and so what National would “now wind back” has not happened either because of Labours’s non-delivery?

How have “the very two people [ Winston Peters and David Seymour who] …breached our 1995 settlement’ that “we will hold them to account and the only way we can do that is to take them to the High Court”?
For what?

Also, how much is actually been spent by Government agencies to advance te reo?
A reputed $200–600 million, which is long due a detailed innovatory.
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January 11, 2024 8:05am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Problem for them is they are not saying ban Te Reo, they are saying prioritise English for government sector names so there is no bloody confusion, how is that getting rid of Te Reo?
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:19am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  The $200 million is a wild overestimate, as I have pointed out before.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:26am
  - stewmar
    
    The $200 million is a wild overestimate, as I have pointed out before.
    
    mm, where is your proof of this haphazard statement?
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:00am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Can’t be bothered to find my previous source. But to get above more than tens of millions, you would need to count all spending on such things as kohanga rea and kura kaupapa.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:24am
      - Yvette
        
        TPK,GOVT –
        Now 11 years on and despite funding of up to $225 million per year; two national censuses have confirmed that the speakers of Maori have declined.
        https://www.tpk.govt.nz/docs/mls/submissions/Te-Reo-Tuatahi.pdf
        
        I raise you indiscriminately cherry-picked item:TPK,
        let’s see what you hold in your hand
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:36am
      - mikenmildagain
        
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        I’m not inclined to believe that figure, which is backed by no official source.
        I’d be convinced by a breakdown of $225 million, with references to specific Estimates appropriation data.
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:53am
      - Yvette
        
        “which is backed by no official source.”
        It is an official source
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:18am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        It’s a submission to TPK, not a statement by TPK.
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:50am
      - Yvette
        
        The amount of funding to bring Te Reo into even 50% of Maori homes as the main language of communication is far greater than the $55 million that would have to be redirected from the annual Te Mangai Paho spend on TV and radio. The other $170 million that is spent in Education would also need to be targeted to the kaupapa. – same link
        
        The quarter billion dollars mentioned here are ‘facts’ in a submission to TPK, who would surely immediate fact-check if they seemed silly.
        
        But which wolf wins – the one you feed
        so I accept you must be right, Philu 2
        
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        January 11, 2024 12:31pm
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      As evidenced by his nothing response, milky doesn’t ever really answer questions, he just raises a manicured eyebrow, or asks them.
      
      For example – hey, Mike, if the Justice spokeshuman for…oh I don’t know, Labour, Greeks, TPM, take your pick – was convicted of shoplifting, should they be turned out of parliament?
      
      Nearly said turfed, that’ll trigger Mike no end.
      
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      January 11, 2024 2:31pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yes.
        
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        January 11, 2024 3:08pm
  - julesnzuk
    
    I’m more concerned about the sheer stupidity (there’s no other word for it) of naming government departments in a language negligible numbers of people understand instead of English – when it’s an English speaking country. Beyond deranged.
    
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    January 12, 2024 3:55am
- Warren Murray
  
  It seems Tainui is actually motivated to reopen its 1995 settlement on any pretext. If the process was even semi-judicial, they’d have to demonstrate the actual loss.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:07am
  - Ehlana
    
    Why would they want to reopen a settlement they presumably a long time obtaining in the first place?
    
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    January 11, 2024 1:04pm
- rjay
  
  This is the importance of legislating to make English an official language. The long game was to abandon English and that plan has been spiked. Hence the anger from maori elite.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:09am
- pdm
  
  Yvette – what intrigues me is that Maori, namely Tainui driven by Tuku (underpants) Morgan and others is taking the New Zealand Government to court.
  
  The alleged Government perpetrators are Maori men
  Winston Peters and David Seymour.
  
  Isn’t Maori fighting Maori, as above, not what the Chiefs who signed the Treaty of Waitangi wanted stopped?
  
  Looks like they have gone full circle to me.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:21am
  - cmm
    
    “Winston Peters and David Seymour.”
    
    In this context they are agents of the Crown, not Maori.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:31am
    - peterwn
      
      But as far as I know they have not actively pushed Te Reo. Their personal stances would probably be same as mainstream Kiwis.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:37am
      - julesnzuk
        
        “Mainstream kiwis”. Pretty sure birds and fruit lack the sentience to take a position on it. Do you mean middle New Zealand?
        
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        January 12, 2024 3:58am
    - pdm
      
      `In this context they are agents of the Crown, not Maori.’
      
      Maybe so cmm but, my interpretation is that they have been named in the proceedings .
      
      What is more it seems they are the only two named.
      
      Or am I wrong with that?
      
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      January 11, 2024 12:50pm
  - julesnzuk
    
    Calling David Seymour a Maori is a bit of a stretch. I am 1/16th Maori but identify firmly as a New Zealand European.
    
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    January 12, 2024 3:57am
- Paulus
  
  Tuku must need some new underpants !
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:58am
  - pdm
    
    Probably wants to get them from Scotties in Ponsonby.
    
    He has shown expensive tastes in the past.
    
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    January 11, 2024 12:52pm
    - Roberta
      
      Especially whem it came to using taxpayers money to fund his expensive tastes.
      
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      January 11, 2024 2:46pm
- Jack5
  
  Maori language isn’t alone on the State band-wagon.
  
  Promoting/teaching/propagandizing that tiny regional language is up there with Global Weather Fear as:
  
  1: A drain on our education system.
  2: A diversion from economic political issues.
  3. A creator of jobs with little or no measurable return.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:47am
- J-Dogg
  
  If Maori want thier language to survive, they need to go and learn it themselves. There’s no point trying to force it on the rest of us who would happily see it dead. Unfortunately though, mastering even one language seems too difficult for most that I know.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:53am
  - leoj
    
    Yup.
    
    The difference between voluntary and compulsory seems like a mystery to these activists.
    
    Luxon is taking Monday night lessons for God’s sake!
    
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    January 11, 2024 12:53pm
  - ISeeRed
    
    It amuses me at the supermarket when I see Maori parents speak to their kids in Maori and they answer in English. Te reo just isn’t cool, no matter how much is spent.
    
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    January 11, 2024 1:23pm
- An Old Kiwi
  
  LOL. – I literally laughed out loud, at the words “the government’s decision to pull back on the use of the Māori language in the public sector”
  
  Yeah, right. (Tui) I have a friend who works for a govt dept, and he is finding that in emails from bosses, there are more & more Maori words -replacing- the English words. Nobody talks about “work” anymore, it’s always “mahi.” (And motu, kaimahi, and maunga. The virtue signaling is in over drive)
  When my friend immigrated to NZ we all spoke English, but now it’s pidgin English.
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:43pm
- rouppe
  
  Nothing is stopping Tainui promoting and furthering their language.
  
  That satisfies Article 2, which allows signatories to retain their treasures. Such as their language.
  
  It’s not my treasure
  
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  January 11, 2024 7:41pm
Simon

Mentally ill middle aged left wing women are the problem.
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January 11, 2024 8:06am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are thieves
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:20am
  - Colville
    
    Incredibly common white collar crime. The middle aged woman who looks after the books of a medium sized business gets a gambling and/or shoe addiction and steals tens of thousands of thousands.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:17am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      To be fair I know men who’ve done incredibly dumb things with snowballing credit card debt (incredibly dumb compulsive massive spending on the CC). Yes I personally know of several cases of women who’ve secretly gambled away their hubby’s hard won loot at the casino (100’s of thousands of dollars).
      
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      January 11, 2024 8:29pm
- Positan
  
  Unhappy, mentally-ill but know-all, Labour/Green women – some with university degrees – but every single one driven by deep-set authoritarian impulses.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:06am
- Clown
  
  Calling any left-winger ‘mentally ill’ is redundant.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:42am
kiwikidsnz

…is there any truth to the rumour that Jacinda’s bridesmaids this weekend are Jessica & Tova?
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January 11, 2024 8:11am
- thirteenstars
  
  I wonder if Ghahraman got them a good deal on designer frocks?
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:36am
  - peterwn
    
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    I would lay off this sort of humour, It seems to be a sad issue that needs to be resolved in a sympathetic way.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:39am
    - kiwikidsnz
      
      OTOH it could be an entitlement issue that needs to be called out for what it is.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:12am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      By all means do so, but you’ll have to watch as some of us who have watched the posturing, lecturing and above all else, support for murderers in our parliament hold her to account.
      
      If she is ill then by all means, resign, take care.
      
      If it’s an entitled fuck you to rich folk then I want to watch her very long fall from grace, hoist on her own petard. It will be very well deserved.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:54am
    - leoj
      
      A soft-cock, lefty response indeed, yet only when a lefty is implicated.
      
      Get lost and develop a sense of humour.
      
      Watch more Ricky Gervais and learn.
      
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      January 11, 2024 12:57pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      If evidence on CCTV then she is guilty, no bloody excuses,and she will be booted
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:33pm
    - rouppe
      
      Such as the sympathy they showed Uffindel?
      
      Happy to watch them bleed
      
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      January 11, 2024 7:43pm
    - julesnzuk
      
      She’s brought it on herself and there shouldn’t be any expectation of sympathy.
      
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      January 12, 2024 4:01am
- Nickc2
  
  Is it equally true that Barry Soper needs time to ponder to offered role of Page Boy for the wedding?
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:18am
BananaLlama

Quick question.
Was the story about Alfred Ngaro in the NZ Herald an attempt by left wing journalists to deflect for Gloriz when they found out she was accused of shoplifting.
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January 11, 2024 8:12am
- MCōs
  
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  Ask Mr Ngaro
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:18am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hahaha, and the bullshit with Maggie Barry, the bastards are calling Garahman a Nat advisor ffs
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:21am
  - peterwn
    
    It would be strictly true – she would have given National MP’s lots of unsolicited advice inside and outside the House.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:41am
Ehlana

Good morning Kiwibloggers

Today is Hot Toddy Day. Wrong weather for it, but then there are all those warnings about Covid still around, so you should be responsible and take a preventative.
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January 11, 2024 8:14am
- pdm
  
  Covid preventative – a nip of Whisky perhaps.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:28am
  - Biscuit
    
    I had no idea that ‘nip’ could be a singular term, pdm…
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:29am
    - pdm
      
      Reminds me of when I was 18 or 19 playing cricket in Central Hawkes Bay. The selector for the Sub Association team organised a trial on a Sunday at Otane and we all went to the pub for lunch. Tommy Spencer the selector was probably about 70 then and he walked up to the bar and asked for a `thripple header’ which was basically a 5 ounce glass of whisky – no room for water.
      
      Suffice to say he had two or three of those and we had an extended lunch break.
      
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      January 11, 2024 8:38am
      - newview
        
        I’m not a regular but know the pub well pdm. Have had the odd drink there over the last 50 years.
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:55am
      - pdm
        
        newview I was not a regular attender but I did frequent it on occasions – mainly 1960s but also in the 70’s and 80’s..
        
        From your comment I assume you are a resident of CHB so we may well know each other. Email me at
        cruliviig@gmail.com if you want to follow up on that.
        
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        January 11, 2024 12:56pm
    - Ehlana
      
      Perhaps it’s one of those words that is the same in singular and the plural Biscuit.
      
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      January 11, 2024 9:23am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        It’s an abbreviated form of nipperkin
        
        https://boakandbailey.com/2017/10/nips-nipperkins/
        
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        January 11, 2024 9:46am
- Lee C
  
  I treated both my vaccinations with Jamiesons.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:33am
  - Positan
    
    Lee, being of Scots descent, I successfully treated my complete lack of vaccination with judicious doses of Grants and Johnny Walker.
    The treatment was far more salubrious, determinably effective, ascertainably less toxic, and lacking in the vaccine’s potential for so many types of unwanted corporeal infliction. Resultantly it completely avoided the now provable risk of medical misadventure.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:19am
    - krazykiwi
      
      More of an Bruichladdich Octomore chap, myself. Nom nom nom.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:43am
  - newview
    
    Great choice regardless of which grade you are drinking.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:48am
    - newview
      
      Jamesons I mean.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:15am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I used to sip Whiskey (Irish and Scottish) from my Dad’s liquor cabinet. It seemed like a cool idea but always tasted like floor cleaner to me. Apparently elevated risk of mouth (and other) cancer too due to the high alcohol content.
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:35pm
My-Gumboot

So the Aussies find a big chunk of gold in the South Island..
Get in and dig it quick while Gloria and the Greens are distracted, and Jac is busy organising the wedding.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/9-billion-central-otago-gold-discovery-largest-in-four-decades/65Z2Z25KERG7RLKALQUXVOT3I4/
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January 11, 2024 8:16am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Don’t need to, they have thanked the new government for RMA to mine the stuff, clearly this has been done over and above the RMA for exploration
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:24am
- Ruahine
  
  That project will need to go ahead as quickly as possible. A lot of gold is required in the manufacture and sale of EV’s.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:24am
  - Paulus
    
    Is not gold one of the very largest, in financial terms, of New Zealand exports ?
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:02am
    - Jack5
      
      Gold isn’t in the top 10 exports from NZ, and according to this web site, NZ ranks about 45th in world gold producers.
      
      https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-production-by-country
      
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      January 11, 2024 12:16pm
    - MCōs
      
      I don’t think so
      https://tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/exports-by-category
      
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      January 11, 2024 12:35pm
- plc
  
  I think you’ll find that the gold will now belong to Ngai Tahu
  
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  January 11, 2024 12:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Make sure you state the location of a pothole precisely unless you want to be dicked around for months.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/301037459/the-pothole-and-a-complaint-process-that-took-a-long-road-to-nowhere
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January 11, 2024 8:23am
- peterwn
  
  What is needed is a pothole app where you can take a picture of the pothole and it sends the picture (if available) and location to Council or NZTA as appropriate. Should also handle water leaks.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:29am
  - GJM
    
    The Snap Send Solve app does that. It won’t guarantee action of course, but it can also send them reminders which they can ignore as well.
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:15am
    - Burtland
      
      https://ccc.govt.nz/report/snap-send-solve/
      
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      January 11, 2024 3:05pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Water leaks can be reported online via a nap (in Lower Hutt, at least).
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:27am
    - Gravelroad
      
      In your dreams.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:26am
      - hmmokrightitis
        
        Gold, well played 😂
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:58am
- pdm
  
  Maggy – given the Government department responsible is now New Zealand Transport Agency and not Waka Kotahi I should imagine they will be on to it and get compensation sorted very quickly.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:30am
  - All_on_Red
    
    https://www.nzta.govt.nz/contact-us/email-us/request-for-compensation-for-vehicle-damage/
    
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    January 11, 2024 12:07pm
- cmm
  
  I just reported a bad pothole in Chch yesterday (yes, there are a few). We’ll see how long it takes for them to fix it.
  
  We have a pin the tail on the donkey style map reporting thing which allows you to precisely located problems down to a metre or two.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:34am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Like tobys that leak (and there are many) I send the council an email and a GPS location. They eventually get fixed but not as quickly as the water use bill is sent out should you ‘overuse’ your allocation…..that is if they actually check your meter and there are a large number of dwellings that do not get measured as they are shared meters…..
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:46am
    - marcw
      
      If shared meter readings demonstrate excess water use, these properties are prioritised for leak checking and installation of individual meters.
      
      The facts are that very few shared meters are being billed for excess water use.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:41am
  - Vinicius
    
    Also in Chch, I live on a busy road which has a nasty deep pothole that has been there for ages. All has been done is they’ve (council?) has painted around it with white paint and done nothing more. It has been like that for at least 6 months.
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:49am
    - GJM
      
      Put a bag of instant concrete in the hole and sprinkle water over it, or wait for rain.
      Osprey paint a gentleman’s meat and 2 veg around it.
      
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      January 11, 2024 9:16am
      - graham
        
        Someone was given a formal warning by police for doing just that in Auckland a few years back.
        
        The letter from NZ Police states that Upson was found to be the offender in a “wilful damage type incident which occurred between 2018 and 2021” and had “offered admissions” to police.
        
        Upson was warned that wilful damage is punishable by three months imprisonment and a fine not exceeding $2000.
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/geoff-upson-police-punish-pothole-penis-painter/LZAEZ53OIKNWZPAOMW5TM6EEKY/
        
        Which begs several questions, such as why can the council get away with painting around potholes but this person can’t? Just how much ‘wilful damage’ does paint do to the road surface anyway?
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:23am
      - peterwn
        
        Not a good idea. The road surface will compact around it and leave a concrete bulge. The art of road reinstatement after digging to install or repair services is to have the reinstatement material compacted to the same amount as the existing foundation so over time they all compress and sink by the same amount.
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:46am
      - NothingLeft
        
        Paint something that offends wokester council staff; a swastika or something critical of Transisters etc. Will be tidied up immediately
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:49am
    - cmm
      
      Have you reported it?
      
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      January 11, 2024 1:33pm
  - MCōs
    
    That would be the ever efficient Chch City Council, I expect, for whom a mere pothole would be nothing after all those streets were wrecked by earthquakes
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:54am
  - cmm
    
    UPDATE: I drove past today at around 12:30 and it had been fixed. That’s less than 48 hours after I reported it.
    
    Quite likely someone else had reported it too.
    
    I must say that generally our pot holes and water leak people are fairly on the ball. But they don’t quite seem to be as good at partying.
    
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    January 11, 2024 1:35pm
    - MCōs
      
      So that’s a grudging tick for road maintenance
      Surely there must be something else ?
      I know
      Noise control!
      
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      January 11, 2024 2:27pm
- cmm
  
  His “new car” was second hand off Trade Me.
  
  The mirror fell off from hitting a pothole? Hmmm.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:37am
  - pdm
    
    cmm I hit a pothole in early November in our 2028 well maintained Hyundai Kona. Was doing about 80ks and the wipers came on.
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:41am
    - pdm
      
      2018 Hyundai Kona.
      
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      January 11, 2024 8:50am
    - Paulus
      
      I hit a Tauranga pothole recently which destroyed my expensive tyre – $720
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:04am
      - cmm
        
        I take it that’s a knob-headed low profile tyre.
        
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        January 11, 2024 1:36pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        knob-headed? 😀
        
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        January 11, 2024 8:42pm
  - MCōs
    
    The article says ‘newly purchased’
    
    When Labour was in charge it would have been
    Look at the state of the road
    Now it’s
    Look at the state of the car
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:05am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I was driving at about 40km due to reduced visibility on SH2 in Jan last year in heavy rain in my BMW with low-profile tyres and hit a pothole also. The impact didn’t knock the mirror off its mounting, but it certainly made it point up to the roof of the car.
    
    Took a big chunk out of one of the tyres and had to be replaced Bridgestone Potenzas are not cheap either.
    
    I also went for compensation and got knocked back. Think I’ll have another go.
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:04pm
- Biscuit
  
  Maggy, you’ll be shocked to know that I was hitherto unaware of the ‘exclusive Auckland boutique clothing store Scottie’s Boutique’ before news of Golriz Ghahraman’s escapade made the news.
  
  I hit Google…
  
  The place – well, the Horrid’s pic of the Ponsonby’s branch, anyway – is appalling. Single entry, a hedge-covered exterior, ugly grates out the front and, worst of all, a decidedly-unsafe-looking exit way.
  
  GG should sue the joint for human rights abuse(s) at making any getaway(s) she or her ilk might have been perping so DANGEROUS…
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:38am
  - Paulus
    
    Great publicity, thanks Ghahraman, for the most expensive shop of its kind in Auckland
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:05am
- artemisia
  
  Last year I reported a water leak, and not a small one, to Wellington CC. Gave only street and distance from an intersection due to driving past. Their reply was they need an actual street number or no go. My reply, not going to bother reporting leaks any more.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:40am
  - Close Hen Counters
    
    Yes artemisia – reading between the lines, you have to do their job as their staff member is on the couch pretending to be working … as reported in the herald yesterday!!! Can’t wait to see that story grow some legs .. it is such a great news week; golriz, millennial and her ilk finally being sprung about work practice 😜
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Been repaired before. Absolute shoddy job.
  The car had buckled wheels – well BMW mags are not cheap. Repair? Maybe, but crack test as well.
  Simeon Brown needs to give NZ Transport a rev up. Sack the incompetents.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:51am
  - James Stephenson
    
    Which is why I run 65 section AT tyres on steel wheels on my Subie.
    
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    January 11, 2024 8:55am
- Hollyfield
  
  On Christmas Day 2022 my family had a picnic in the local park, and after several hours of eating lunch and socialising we wanted to use the facilities, which were locked. I reported this to Auckland Council, expecting that they would remind their security company that when they unlock the gates from the road to the carpark they remember to also unlock the toilets.
  
  On 4th October, yes, more than 9 months later, I received an email from Auckland Council “We have closed this request. Someone else has already let us know about it and we’re working on it. We have now closed the work on the problem you reported.”
  
  9 months to tell me they’re working on it, and that they won’t give me further updates as someone else reported it as well, and presumably that unknown person will receive the updates. I don’t actually need any updates about a locked toilet door, but they would have been better not email me at all, as after 9 months the only thing they have actually told me is that they are slow and useless.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:29am
- Matt Long
  
  Potholes will hopefully start being fixed soon. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sh1-pothole-needs-to-be-fixed-pronto-after-mans-car-damaged-near-taupo/64YJCKEIOVFGRDYQ2KHHOHRLQQ/
  Interesting Whangarei Mayor is quoted.
  Whangarei like many councils is the proud possessor of a new award winning over budget HQ.
  This one comes with special features, with some regularity, a bell rings and everyone walks out of the building and stands in front, while people in red vehicles appear, then the red vehicles leave and everyone goes back into the building.
  Not sure if it’s team building, a Maori observance, a fitness regimen or what, but it sure looks fun.
  I must say it’s wonderful the ratepayers can afford a new palace with this special feature, speeed bumps everywhere, a shared cycle/walk way right through the city. A shame though that road and roadside maintenance is unaffordable.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:44am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I made a claim against WCC for pothole-delivered damage to my road bike about 15 years ago. Buggered rim. They tried to argue that a roading contractor was to blame, and that I should take it up with them. I pointed out that payment of my rates created a contract making them responsible regardless of who they sub-contracted to. On threatening court action they paid up.
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:54am
- krazykiwi
  
  There is a 8m long section on our road that is deforming where asphalt (essentially a low moving liquid) is pancaking and depressing where bus tyres roll over it. This is forcing three lengthwise peaks like mountain ranges, and the middle one is now so high my car’s underside scrapes on it. It is also a death trap for unaware cyclists as it is on a gentle slope meaning one direction is quite fast.
  
  We are flaunting our approaching 3rd world status with much aplomb.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:51am
Maggie Pie

Hi fam! Been missing me?

TBH, I’ve decided 14 days at the beach is far too long. There’s only soo much sun sea sand & thai takeaways a gurl can take.

You should see me. I’m as brown-as-a-berry.
Even my partner’s fishing mate from Silverdale (who just happens to be half-cast Maori) reckoned that if I dyed my roots black, I could easily be mistaken for Two Hoy 😎
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January 11, 2024 8:36am
- pdm
  
  At the risk of being presumptiuous I ask:
  
  Do you like black roots Maggy.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:44am
- MCōs
  
  In Remuera you’ll probably get mistaken for a Mexican charity worker or a Middle Eastern maid.
  
  Oh, the humiliation!
  
  Better get that skin whitener out of the cabinet
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:29am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Shouldn’t you be wearing SPF50+ and wearing some kind of nerdy UV protection suit at the beach, like Nicole Kidman, lest you quickly become a shrivelled prune?
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:49pm
Bridgenag

We missed you!
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January 11, 2024 8:39am
Clyde

Great to see Shayne Jones getting right behind a huge new gold mining venture in Central Otago. Really loved his pithy comments about expected tiny shrill minorities talking about click beetles. But it will be interesting to see what happens with the consenting process that involves the Central Otago District Council where the Mayor is a big supporter of that fringe movement that says democracy is broken.
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January 11, 2024 8:43am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Yep, You can guarantee a genetically unique breed of Freddie the blind frog will soon be found in this area.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:20am
Loddenthinks

The deflection and minimising is starting already, in fact it started last night.

Headline on $1uffed app: Green MP Golriz Ghahraman stands down from roles

Click on the item, headline becomes: Green MP Golriz Ghahraman stands down from roles over allegations

First paragraph of the story says she has “stood aside from all her portfolios, as the party investigates allegations”

No mention of her alleged crime, shoplifting, until well into paragraph 2, and even then they point out it was another outlet – Newstalk ZB – that had reported the incident “relates to her being accused of shoplifting”. Doing their masters’ bidding very well, aren’t they?
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January 11, 2024 8:44am
- sht1971
  
  Let’s not forget the Ardern-Gayford wedding puff piece that suddenly appeared last night right next to the shoplifting story….
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:48am
- imalwaysright
  
  Lod,
  
  I bet she’s still collecting her wages.
  
  Why does NZ have so many problems with women in top jobs?
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:57am
  - Taieri
    
    I bet she’s still collecting her wages.
    ————-
    
    And so she should.
    As much as I don’t like, she’s innocent until proven guilty.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:44am
    - imalwaysright
      
      T,
      It might then be a good idea for her to actually spend them.
      
      Because of her the shopkeeper has been deprived of income.
      
      Why should the same not apply to her?
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:04am
      - Taieri
        
        A court will decide that…
        
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        January 11, 2024 12:19pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Simple imalwaysright DE&I as well as most seem to be POC as well.
    
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    January 11, 2024 12:52pm
  - julesnzuk
    
    I can only assume they’re not there on merit. There does seem to be a lot of useless females in these jobs – as a woman I can’t believe I feel the need to say that! It is disappointing.
    
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    January 12, 2024 4:06am
- Lara
  
  In The Post this morning it was a tiny article on Page 3 headed “GG stands down from portfolios”.
  
  If it had been a National Coalition MP it would have been front page news!
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:02am
  - Colville
    
    If she had been a MP in the Key govt she would have had scorch marks on her arse she would have been out of a job so fast.
    No ifs buts or maybe. Don’t even wait to clear out your desk.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:28am
  - Gin and Sonic
    
    Yup, I noticed that. I grabbed The Post this morning expecting bold headlines about Golriz, to only see this major political story banished to Page 3 as a small, incidental, bit of uninteresting news of no national consequence.
    Meanwhile , ex-National MP,Alfred Ngaro, has blazing headlines and the fight footage put all over the media.
    Any chance that the Scotties CCTV footage of Golriz will be released for all of us to evaluate? My guess it will never see the light of day as litigious Golriz will lawyer-up.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:55am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    She made the front page of the printed NZ Herald which surprised me.
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:38am
- artemisia
  
  Talking to Summer Breakfast this morning, political commentator Brigitte Morton agreed it would be hard for the Green Party’s PR team to spin the story into anything good.
  
  ZBPlus this morning, paywalled.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:18am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Story here:
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/01/golriz-ghahraman-political-commentator-brigitte-morten-says-allegations-will-raise-a-lot-of-internal-questions-in-green-party.html
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are even calling her a Nat advisor
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:27am
slightlyrighty

I see there is a narrative that Golriz is blaming her MS diagnosis for short term memory issues.

I call BS on that. My wife has MS and still remembers my transgressions from 20 years ago!
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January 11, 2024 8:52am
- Mr Nobody NZ
  
  If her Multiple Sclerosis or the associated drugs being used for its treatment have affected her memory and cognitive ability then this will (and should be) taken into account through the Legal process in exactly the same way as if it was anybody else.
  
  However, this will also call into question her ability to function in an appropriate manner as an MP, her ability to hold a drivers license etc.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:48am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Well it certainly explains a lot of the absolute nonsense she’s been spouting for years, anyway!
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:07pm
- KiwiSapper
  
  Her MS can’t be too serious or advanced as it has been claimed (in using it as her defence) that she only has to visit the hospital once every six months.
  And if it is then as has been pointed out , she shouldn’t be holding ministerial positions etc.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:35am
- Dougal10
  
  I have a good friend with MS has had it for 30+ years and she isn’t a thief .
  
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  January 11, 2024 1:32pm
  - Ghost
    
    Every person is different, becuase you know one person doesn’t mean that stands for all.
    
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    January 11, 2024 1:43pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I’m wondering if she’s using medical cannabis.
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:53pm
  - Ghost
    
    With its benefits for people with MS I would hope she is.
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:02pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      THC can make some people quite kooky.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:12pm
Maggie Pie

“From the river to the sea, Gucci handbags should be free”

https://youtu.be/WFXAaVhcNLI

😀 😀 😀
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- imalwaysright
  
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  “From the river to the sea, Gucci handbags should be free”
  
  You can buy a bag, but you can’t buy class.
  
  You are ridiculous .
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:04am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The clitoris has more than 8000 nerve endings, yet
    it’s still not as sensitive as some people here on KB.
    
    Just saying.
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:12am
    - Jack5
      
      … 8,000 nerve ending …
      
      🤓How did they count them?
      
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      January 11, 2024 2:54pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        By counting nerve axons on stained sections of Clitoral dorsal nerves which had been obtained from females undergoing phalloplasty surgery.
        
        How many nerve fibers innervate the human glans clitoris: a histomorphometric evaluation of the dorsal nerve of the clitoris
        
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36763957/
        
        Actually, more than 8000 axons innervate the human clitoris…
        
        the approximate mean number of myelinated axons that innervate the human glans clitoris is 10,280.
        
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        January 11, 2024 3:10pm
    - Nickc2
      
      I’m informed the job is too arousing for most NZers. //
      
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      January 11, 2024 3:12pm
- MCōs
  
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  ‘Only an allegation, not guilt.’
  David Farrar, X
  
  Shortly afterwards
  
  ‘From the river to the sea,
  All my clothes will be free’
  David Farrar, X shortly thereafter
  
  That mask slipped fairly quickly
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:15am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Jokes verboten.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:53am
  - imalwaysright
    
    More a thin veil than a mask.
    My criticism didn’t make it past the censor.
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:01am
Biscuit

NeverMindTheBollocks asked me yesterday if I had yet gotten over being seemingly ignored as a guest for the Wedding Of The Century this weekend.

My angst is back, NMTB.

Not only have my besties Klarque and Cindy overlooked me but so too, it seems, has Kieran McAnulty who – bizarrely – also gets wedded in the Bay on the self-same day…

Do these people not know of diary-synching?
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January 11, 2024 8:53am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Apparently the Two Dollar shop Lenin booked his months ago.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:01am
  - Colville
    
    JAs wedding at Craggy Range would have been booked at least a year in advance.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:30am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Maybe a double wedding to help reduce the impact of carbon emissions of having two seperate weddings, it’s just the sort of thing climate aware youth adjacent 40 somethings would do ?. The optics look good, one former leader of the NZLP and the soon to be new Leader of the NZLP together on their respective wedding days. Great spread for the ladies magazines.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:06am
- Steve Todd
  
  @Biscuit @ 8:53AM
  
  […] Kieran McAnulty […] also gets wedded in the Bay on the self-same day…
  
  That’s interesting, Biscuit., but are you sure about that?
  
  From Wikipedia—
  
  “McAnulty was raised Catholic. […].
  
  “He met his first wife, Suzanne McNally, while traveling in her home country of Ireland on an overseas experience. They married in 2011 and later divorced. McAnulty married his second wife, the prime minister’s press secretary Gia Garrick, in January 2023.”
  
  (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieran_McAnulty.)
  
  So, are you saying he is marrying for the third time this weekend, a year after marrying for the second time? Or have you misread something?
  
  I notice the extract reproduced, above, mentions divorce, but nothing about annulment, to enable a second marriage to take place, as Jim Anderton was able to pull off.
  
  It would seem, therefore, that McAnulty is either a non-observant Catholic, or, being a prominent Catholic, was able to secure the annulment of his first marriage (and now, perhaps his second marriage).
  
  Like I say: interesting. Your thoughts?
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:42am
  - Biscuit
    
    I checked and this came up re the WOTC:
    
    ‘Daily Mail Australia understands Craggy Range winery in Havelock North, in the heart of the Hawke’s Bay region, is due to host the wedding for the couple after years of delays and cancellations.
    
    In a bizarre twist, Ms Ardern’s longtime friend and fellow Labour Party MP Kieran McAnulty has also set this weekend aside to marry his fiancée Gia Garrick, former press secretary to prime ministers Ms Ardern and Chris Hipkins.
    
    According to a source, despite Mr McAnulty securing his wedding months date months in advance, many mutual friends have since accepted invites to Ms Ardern and Mr Clarke’s big day.’
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:52am
    - Steve Todd
      
      Thanks, Biscuit.
      
      I see McAnulty’s Wikipedia page was last edited on 16 Dec 23, so who knows what the correct information is? In this case, I suspect your source is the accurate one.
      
      We wait to see how it all unfolds this weekend, I suppose.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:00am
  - cmm
    
    A term like “McAnulty was raised Catholic” suggest that he is no longer Catholic or is no longer observant.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:28am
    - Steve Todd
      
      Only because that is how you have chosen to interpret it.
      
      Further down his Wikipedia entry, under ‘Political views’, it states—
      
      “McAnulty, despite his Catholic faith, is in favour of legalised same-sex marriage and more open abortion laws. He stated in Parliament when debating the Abortion Legislation Bill: ‘I was raised that my religious views are mine only. So I will not use my vote today to impose any particular view that I may have to prevent the choice of a woman to make on her own body.’” [18 March 2020.]
      
      And—
      
      “Regarding the conflict between his Catholic religion and support for euthanasia, he said: ‘Not everyone believes in God. And as long as we have a structure in place that allows people to pursue their own personal beliefs, then how dare they impose their views on others?’” [13 February 2021.]
      
      Make of all that what you will. I know what I think.
      
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      January 11, 2024 12:00pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    McAnulty spent all of his first wife’s inheritance and other matrimonial assets getting himself elected to parliament – ie converting their shared assets into his personal career ‘capital’. Then dumped her as soon as he was elected. Cynically exploitative of her trust. And has we heard through all the Sharma Drama he is a nasty piece of work.
    
    I’m amazed that any women will vote for him, let alone marry him.
    
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    January 11, 2024 1:02pm
- Prince
  
  I trust Kieran’s bride to be has a pre-nup in place.
  Just saying, leopards, spots etc.
  
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  January 11, 2024 12:38pm
- alwyn.a
  
  It’s a bloody nuisance actually.
  Before I had heard about the wedding date I had arranged dental surgery to remove my (impacted) Wisdom teeth. This was on the day before the planned weddings.
  Then I get not one but two wedding invitations!
  I decided that having to choose one of the three events I would choose the least painful one.
  So the dental work is going ahead and I can avoid both the bacchanalian festivities. Stuff em.
  
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  January 11, 2024 2:36pm
Chuck Bird

The Tucker Carlson Encounter: The Truth About Fossil Fuels

https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-fossil-fuels/
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January 11, 2024 9:03am
- Inandout
  
  CB, the climies will be incensed at this news.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:42am
- NZer In Exile
  
  W Soon is totally onto it. Just bloody hard to understand at times. He needs to slow down and forget trying to be funny (or get AI to translate).
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:02pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Actually with the video you posted that one was pretty clear. Sometimes hard to understand when he’s using a crap microphone and I’m driving listening to him talking on a podcast.
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:07pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

“Property sales in Auckland have risen strongly with sales in December up 60% on this time last year. Demand is expected to rise thruout the year”

– Peter Thomps0n (Barfoot & Thompson ZBNews)

Anyone missing Jacinda yet?
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January 11, 2024 9:08am
Mr Nobody NZ

Is there any reason that the Golriz Ghahraman story on the NZ Herald website has been listed only on the main News section and not under either Politics or Crime as one would usually expect?

I note that their Politics section contains the headline “Ex-Nats MP cleared by Police after fight at mum’s tangi” so one would think at a minimum a shoplifting accusation for a current MP would equally be able to be found in this section?
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January 11, 2024 9:18am
cmm

I call for Passport Equity.

People from shitholistans have enough problems as it is with getting water, sanitation and treatment for their sick goats. It is unfair that we discriminate against their passports.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/133545633/unprecedented-change-in-worlds-passport-rankings
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January 11, 2024 9:21am
- MCōs
  
  The Pakistan cricket team had trouble getting visas to travel to India for the recent World Cup, not because they are a threat to the country, but out of bloodymindness.
  
  As for our passport. It depends where you want to go & for how long. When I first went to Thailand I got a stamp at the airport for three months. Now it’s one month and last I heard if you cross by land only a fortnight. If you go to Oz you don’t have to leave. Both count as one in their list
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:53am
sirknz

They are just like us…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ele-liquidation-migrants-left-jobless-are-sleeping-in-cars-unable-to-afford-food/F6ZTVXIZ5VGGTK4TWHMTP6UELE/
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January 11, 2024 9:22am
Rusty

So far the NZ herald has reported news this week on two ex-Nats MPs Alfred Ngaro and Maggie Barry playing up in public and now the little girl from the Greens party for shop lifting.

Who’s next?
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January 11, 2024 9:22am
- Cassandra
  
  Ngaro did not “play up”, his sister did.
  
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  January 11, 2024 2:01pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Shit from my FB:
A white horse walks into a bar and orders a beer.The barman says , ‘Did you know there’s a whisky named after you ‘.The horse says ‘Wot , there’s a whisky called Fred?’
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January 11, 2024 9:35am
- cmm
  
  A white horse walks into a bar and orders a beer.The barman says: “We don’t get many horses drinking here.”
  The horse says: “At these prices I’m not surprised.”
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:59am
kevn

A link on a compulsory jab, fired because no jab, then told to just reapply… Nurse. Pregnant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCQ1CBojRoI
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January 11, 2024 9:37am
Maggie Pie

Having taken a ‘self-enforced’ break from SM over the hols, I’m not sure how much coverage the release of the Epstein court-files has attracted here on KB?

So apologies if this has already been aired, but I was horrified to learn that not only had Bill Clinton and Richard Branson also been visitors to Epstein’s Pedo Island, but also the world renown physicist…. Steven Hawking 🙁

Katie Hopkins broke the news on ‘X’

https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1744049965360406734
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January 11, 2024 9:44am
- MCōs
  
  Of course she did
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:55am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, welcome back, your X links have been missed. It appears Steven liked watching, as his condition precluded anything else.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:47am
- Lee C
  
  Yes.
  Oh.
  Yes.
  Baby.
  Let.
  Let.
  That’s
  co.
  rrect..
  I.
  Oper.
  ate…
  it.
  with.
  my.
  lips.
  mmm
  ….
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:40am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Do we know that everyone who visited the island engaged in sex with under-aged women?
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:16pm
BeaB

Why on earth is the Green Party talking to Scotties to find out what happened? This is a police matter. Politicians shouldn’t be interfering. Surely if they want to know what happened they could just ask Golriz?
Or don’t they believe her?
Or are they putting pressure on the shopkeeper?

And you would think that setting themselves high ethical standards would be aimed at loftier heights than not stealing stuff. That’s a pretty low bar, even for the Greens.
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January 11, 2024 9:52am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Black Privilege / Green Privilege….
  
  The ability to break every law in the country and still remain the victim.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:04am
- Ghost
  
  Because it’s a matter for the party to investigate as well to determine what actions to take with her.
  
  I expect if true she will resign soon
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:05am
  - cmm
    
    They have to be very, very, careful that this is not seen to be interference.
    
    Imagine what it will look like if Scotties withdraws the allegations after a discussion with some MPs. How will that look?
    
    Everything should be at arm’s length. Ideally they would:
    1) Only look at police reports etc.
    2) Wait until the full police investigation is complete before asking any questions.
    
    Look at what has happened in the past. Maurice Williamson was kicked out of politics for asking some questions on behalf of someone in his electorate (something I would have though was within an MP’s duties).
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:24am
    - Colville
      
      Total bullshit.
      The Green leadership should have had a meeting with her within an hour.
      “Did you do it?”
      Yes or no. No mitigation.
      If yes her resignation should have been yesterday.
      If no then they support her.
      But neither of those have happened.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:35am
      - david
        
        Indeed Colville,
        Just like they did with the little green leader done for benefit fraud a year or so ago. Yeah Right
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:48am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Colville,
        
        Correct.
        That is exactly what would have happened in an organisation that had integrity.
        
        Instead they will try to lie their way out of it.
        
        They will turn a situation where one of them broke the law into a situation where the whole party is complicit in a cover up.
        
        That is how thick they are.
        
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        January 11, 2024 10:54am
    - Ghost
      
      They’d be aware their actions could make the media. I’d guess a simple can you tell us what happened. Any footage. Hang up. Cry into their hands.
      
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      January 11, 2024 10:50am
      - marcw
        
        It’s quite simple Ghost – so you can understand it, there should be NO contact between a political organisation (the Greens) during an investigation of a criminal accusation with the alleged victims while the Police do their job. Stop making pathetic excuses. It is a matter between the Police, the alleged perpetrator, and the complainants.
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:08am
      - Ghost
        
        We aren’t even aware if the police are involved, they’re not commenting if there is and investigation. The only thing we know comes from the greens to confirm she has not been charged by the police. Correction, the store has said it is being dealt with by the police
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:14am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The police ARE involved.
        
        The store declined to provide specific details when contacted by ZB Plus but confirmed the alleged incident was being handled by police.
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-ghahraman-shoplifting-accusation-political-commentator-brigitte-morten-says-green-mps-reputation-tarnished/ILNT3HAT2VD2TIN6LZIVU42CZM/
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:23am
  - Drone
    
    And Tory Whanau the famous Wellington politician can come in on the list..//
    
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    January 11, 2024 10:37am
    - Hollyfield
      
      Celia Wade-Brown is next on the list.
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:38am
      - fightingtemeraire
        
        What a line up. A failed Akl mayoral candidate and a failed Wellington Mayor.
        
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        January 11, 2024 12:38pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes, I thought that too. I hope Scotties told the the GTFO and referred the to the Police. I also hope the Scotties also contacted the police to advise them of the Greens contact as well as this to me seems like a form of criminal interference….
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:05am
- rjay
  
  Always do your green washing when bringing home the green shopping.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:18am
- rockape
  
  Can you think it would be ok with the police that the Mongrel Mob could go round to their victims to clarify issues ?
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:26am
BeaB

Champagne socialists.
Gucci Greens.
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January 11, 2024 9:53am
Tom Hunter

The next time people boast about the awards given to the likes Harvard’s Claudine Gay before her recent downfall it pays to remember this:

Our dog-humping research paper used black feminist criminology to interpret bogus data and concluded that we can repair rape culture in humans by emulating dog training methods on men. It won special recognition for excellence.

More like this at Powerline’s review of the 2017 investigation of academic grievance studies, conducted by Professors Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose.

But remember as you laugh while reading about the absurdities that even this didn’t stop DEI or CRT at the time and they continued to spread throughout American “Higher Education”.
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January 11, 2024 10:55am
Maggy Wassilieff

One of the drawbacks to becoming an old fart is that I’m often left wondering what some trendy slang words mean…

case in point: Martyn Bradbury used the slang adjective.. bougie…

I don’t give a fuck if she robbed this snooty bougie shop, it’s a nothing character assassination for right wing clickbait as NMZE desperately attempt to find relevance.

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/01/11/tory-whanaus-free-speech-vs-genocide-semantics-and-greens-throw-golriz-under-an-electric-bus/

I had to google it… wondering if he meant bogey (nasal mucus)… but it seems that it’s slang for that ghastly class of capitalists known as the
bourgeoisie.
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January 11, 2024 10:57am
- Ghost
  
  Oh, I thought snot as well.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:00am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Old Brads need to ask himself why she shops (or otherwise) at a capitalist elitist shop like that in the first place….. as stated above she is clearly a Gucci Green.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:04am
- Hollyfield
  
  A couple of other interesting quotes from Martyn Bradbury’s post:
  
  “the Greens throw Golriz under an electric bus”
  
  At first I thought he was hinting that the Greens leaked the story to the media (as I have been wondering who let the story out), but actually he’s criticising the Greens for standing her down from her portfolios. Martyn Bradbury says the Greens should be showing solidarity with her.
  
  “Working Class values state you immediately defend your comrade and stand with them, not dump them and suddenly rescind any association!……It’s shoplifting, she didn’t misgender someone FFS!”
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:14am
  - NothingLeft
    
    The Greens don’t like Golriz, they clearly know what kind of person she is.
    
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    January 11, 2024 1:08pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Maggy,
  I can be described as old fart adjacent.
  The younger members of our staff use the term “bougie” with alarming frequency.
  They are not aware of the derivation of the word it would seem.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:22am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Perhaps class politics will rise again…
    
    Identity politics is so old hat these days.
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:28am
    - Lee C
      
      Irishman comes out of prison.
      Goes to a pet shop, nicks budgies and stuffs them in his pocket.
      Goes to a nearby crane at the docks, climbs up and throws himself off.
      Lands with a thump on his back.
      As the ambulance arrives he’s heard to mutter.
      “Well you can keep that budgie-jumping for a lark…”
      
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      January 11, 2024 11:44am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sister Mary joined the Nunnery. Because she was young and not worldly wise the Mother Superior thought she could do the weekly shopping to broaden her experience.
        So come shopping day off she went.
        She came back very late.
        The Mother thought I will go with her next time and see how it goes.
        So next week as they were driving into town all of a sudden a Police Car put lights and siren on.
        They pulled over and the Mother Superior turned and looked back to see the Policemen walking towards the car and unzipping his fly.
        To which Sister Mary said “Oh no Mother Superior, not another Breathalyser”
        
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        January 11, 2024 4:21pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        😛 😛 😛
        
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        January 11, 2024 5:05pm
- Jack5
  
  If Bradbury had a printing background he would know another meaning for “bourgeoise”, this time with the “g” pronounced as “j”.
  
  What sounded like “burjoice” in print shops was a type size.
  
  Bourgeoise-Leftist scribblers (now bloggers) like Bradbury who emerged from NZ’s universities, seldom deigned to delve into the lore of the printing industry which relayed their blather.
  
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  January 11, 2024 12:35pm
- BananaLlama
  
  Bougie is just a bougie way of saying Bourgeoise.
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:17pm
comm4nder

On a completely different and lighter note, I am watching a very funny series on Netflix about politicians and government departments. It is Australian, set in Melbourne and called Utopia.
I think it would appeal to the kind of people who inhabit this blog.
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January 11, 2024 10:58am
- JFAP
  
  It’s wonderful; but it could not have been made or shown on TV in NZ. It openly pokes the borax at too many sacred cows: race, gender, and ‘greenies’ for a start.
  
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  January 11, 2024 12:21pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Try 7 periods with Mr Gormsby.
    
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    January 11, 2024 12:40pm
Chuck Bird

The dodgy Green’s situation cannot be properly discussed in NZ but it can be in Oz. Sky News now knows about it. Hopefully, it will be soon.
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January 11, 2024 11:09am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes, lets see what Sky News makes of it. They tend to stick to facts, truth and common sense unlike the gaslighting we get fed.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:12am
Maggie Pie

Laying on the beach last week listening to the Tide coming in.
Contemplating to myself…. if HAMAS had given any thort whatsoever back on Oct 7
what Gaza would look like today, then would they still have done what they did?

https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1744005222375264577

Worth thinking about.
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January 11, 2024 11:22am
- Lee C
  
  Of course they would.
  
  That was the whole point of it.
  
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  January 11, 2024 11:45am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    It’s the hostages I feel for most.
    Did you see the state of those poor girls on the News last nite?
    Imagine the horror and suffering them and their loved ones are going thru.
    
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    January 11, 2024 11:57am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      The Greens beleive Me Too unless you are a Jew.
      
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      January 11, 2024 4:17pm
- G152
  
  madmen do not think.
  madmen demand someone destroys them
  
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  January 11, 2024 12:49pm
- cmm
  
  If Hamas had that level of thought then Gaza could have been the Singapore of the East Med.
  
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  January 11, 2024 1:54pm
Hollyfield

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/te-reo-maori-signage-defaced-at-three-reserves-in-auckland/UVBDXBFLR5FGJD43EMJSIN77WY/

I clicked on the article expecting to see the Maori words defaced and the English words remaining, but the entire signs are spray painted or tagged.

Graffiti on signs with English writing, or indeed on surfaces with no writing at all, is also common, so I’m not sure we can attribute this particular spray painting and tagging as anti-Maori.
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January 11, 2024 12:43pm
- Matt Long
  
  If they didn’t leave the Maori bits pristine, even if they destroyed the rest, it’s fragile white hatred at work.
  
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  January 11, 2024 2:47pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Another one of these things that are rotting my brain according to experts.
Old guy: “Stop gaslighting us!”

https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/10/australian-lamb-advert-easily-takes-lead-best-ad-year-20094216/
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January 11, 2024 12:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/media-corruption-set-to-continue-here-is-why-2/
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January 11, 2024 12:59pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It is a repeat of yesterday – just in case you missed it
  
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  January 11, 2024 1:13pm
Maggie Pie

A couple of people have tweeted in the last hour so that Golriz has been struck by a motorbike while stepping out onto a pedestrian-crossing somewhere along Ponsonby Rd.

Still waiting for confirmation.
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January 11, 2024 1:06pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Happening quite often!
  
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  January 11, 2024 1:32pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Lol, is she using the Marama Manifesto.
  
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  January 11, 2024 1:33pm
Tasman devil

Was the shopping spree at Scotties connected to Cindy’s Hens’ night?
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January 11, 2024 1:53pm
- Grunter
  
  Truth or dare Golriz?
  OK, dare (obviously)….. I dare you to…..
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:55pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qapo68cQGnU
Willis Case Against Trump Implodes.
The two main attorneys were in a personal relationship. So the case is a goner due to ethics rules.
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January 11, 2024 2:02pm
- virtualmark
  
  Um, so far there’s been zero evidence or proof that Willis and the special prosecutor were in any personal relationship – just an allegation from one of the defendants that that defendant won’t repeat under oath.
  
  Second, even if there were a relationship that won’t have any effect on the court case, which will be decided on the evidence provided to the Court.
  
  But hey, you keep trolling.
  
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  January 11, 2024 2:22pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    VM
    Given the number of times you have been wrong its surprising you haven’t learned to be patient whilst all the facts are gathered…
    
    BTW As Hunter Biden left that Hearing he showed up to and sat in the Gallery he got asked by a Reporter ” what kind of crack do you prefer?”
    Funny
    
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    January 11, 2024 3:33pm
    - virtualmark
      
      And speaking of troll, here comes a red one …
      
      Red, what about my comment above and my comments on this topic yesterday say I’m not being patient. If Michael Roman has actual facts and evidence that Fani Willis is in a relationship with one of the prosecutors then he should show that to us. But so far it’s just an allegation, with no supporting evidence, and he wouldn’t put his own name to it in the Court filings. I’m happy to wait and see if he can back it up, but big claims need big evidence and to date Trump-world has a poor (zero) track record of backing this sort of claim up.
      
      And even if he can back it up it won’t change the course of the case. It just won’t. For example, Marcia Clark & Chris Darden were in a private relationship during the OJ trial … but that had zero impact on the case. The case will be judged on the evidence provided to the Court, not on gossip about who’s sleeping with who.
      
      Personally I thought Hunter turning up today was a ballsy move. It’s just calling their bluff right? They could have sworn him in then and there and asked their questions, but didn’t. So either (a) they have small balls or (b) they have nothing and know they have nothing. You should know that feeling by now.
      
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      January 11, 2024 4:26pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Have to fillet some freshly shot Snapper so cant chat but Willis is going to be deposed in her alleged boyfriends Divorce.
        That will be lit.
        Romans lawyer has seen the divorce filings but they cant be released yet. He says they will be unsealed soon.
        Willis paid Wade over $624,000 since 2022 and Wade has never done a Case like this before.
        She gave it to him even though she had inhouse Prosecutors who had done similar cases and would cost half that amount.
        Smells a bit fishy…
        Then theres this:’Up to now, the only perceived misstep Willis made in the case was holding a fundraiser for Charlie Bailey, a former colleague who became the Democratic opponent of Republican Burt Jones in the race for lieutenant governor. Jones, who won the race, had been named a target of the probe because he was one of 16 Republicans who served as Electoral College electors for Trump in December 2020.
        
        Finding a conflict, Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney disqualified Willis and the Fulton DA’s office from any further investigation of Jones.
        
        Steve Bright, the former director of the Southern Center for Human Rights in Atlanta, said the Jones’ controversy pales in comparison to the new allegations lodged in Roman’s motion.’
        
        But as I said, lets wait and see what happens.
        
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        January 11, 2024 6:47pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        A variety of legal opinions in this link
        https://www.ajc.com/politics/could-willis-allegations-sink-trump-case-legal-experts-weigh-in/O4LRMNRXPFE6PMA4QRODFNA7BY/
        
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        January 11, 2024 6:49pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Tell you what I have learned though Red … if I ever get in really deep trouble I just hope that James Comer is put in charge of the investigation.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:11pm
  - mawm
    
    AG Willis has employed the alleged co adulterer, a private attorney. He is getting divorced and she has been subpoenaed in the case. The truth will come out. BTW she has paid him handsomely and they have been seen together splashing out. Hardly trolling.
    
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    January 11, 2024 3:41pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    In other Trumpy news, his attorneys have been arguing that presidential immunity would extend to murder. Biden knows what he needs to do now.
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:30pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Trump lawyers: The President has complete immunity for acts while they are President.
      Trump: I am going to prosecute Biden for acts he made when he was President.
      
      Trump: The VP has the absolute right to throw out Presidential electors.
      Dems: So Kamala Harris could throw out electoral votes from states that vote for Trump then?
      
      Trump lawyers: The President could order Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival and they could not be prosecuted for that.
      Biden: [Places call to Virginia Beach …]
      
      Honestly, it’s all just total nonsense, but it is on-brand propaganda and so many here swallow it whole. Then again, Trump’s boots aren’t going to lick themselves …
      
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      January 11, 2024 4:58pm
      - Tom Hunter
        
        Trump lawyers: The President could order Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival and they could not be prosecuted for that.
        
        It was the judge who put forward that hypothetical, you TDS-disrupted moron. FFS.
        
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        January 11, 2024 11:52pm
    - Inandout
      
      m&m, Biden doesn’t know what he had for breakfast nor what position he holds most of the time.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:45pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Trump, earlier this week: “Over the seas and it comes right over our land. And then they want us to have clean. I said wait a minute, we’re gonna have clean but it’s all flying. Just remember that. Does that make sense? In other words, it’s all coming through the currents in the air. It all comes. You can, then can name it, they can say exactly where it’s going to be and when.”
        
        Also Trump earlier this week: “All I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets”
        
        I think Biden’s too old for the job. I think all politicians, everywhere, should have compulsory retirement no later than age 70.
        
        But Trump has significant mental impairment, which has got far far worse since 2016. He no longer gives speeches. He just tells fake stories that provide an alternate reality in which he’s the hero as he pretends to vanquish imaginary enemies like “Sleepy Joe” and “Crooked Hilary” and “the Deep State” and “Fake News”. It’s all just slogans.
        
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        January 11, 2024 7:58pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The filing is here. Start on page 9. Wade and Willis are toast.
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:02pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Additional detail here
    https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-filing-alleges-improper-relationship-between-fulton-da-top-trump-prosecutor/
    
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    January 11, 2024 3:35pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Yep, read it the other day.
    
    But note that while this filing makes claims it provides no evidence to support those claims – such as for example an affidavit or a copy of relevant documents.
    
    And even if Willis is in a clandestine relationship with Wade, which would be inappropriate, stupid and messy, that is a political problem for Willis rather than a legal one. But it would perhaps provide grounds for her to be impeached.
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:32pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o40MRfBjoec
The Nikki Haley Astroturf and Desantis Wishful Thinking.
Muh Haley surge and muh Desantis Iowa surprise.
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January 11, 2024 2:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/wellington_water_must_sack_employee

From Taxpayer’s Union Facebook post:
“A Wellington Water employee has been bragging online about wagging work to, among other things, go to the cinema, wash her car and get coffee with friends all while still getting paid. What is just as concerning is how, as seen on her vlog, she appears to be the only person in the office for the short time she was there. Where is everyone else?”
https://www.facebook.com/TeRangitira/posts/pfbid0jarYSL8N9K2fjUKYifhmsTRGbCcnVniLrkVHdFndhrnQZkPNBG3RsB46xzfsFTF3l

Where is everyone else? At the pictures of course, or in the carwash, or having coffee. Hopefully not on the piss with the Mayor!
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January 11, 2024 2:12pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Melania’s Mother has passed.

https://www.facebook.com/TeRangitira/posts/pfbid0BuPrkSiGKkp8r378nX7ybmTggd7nJKFMC4mwEd36WeVi6jPniCp1LXeM6TUdACo4l
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January 11, 2024 2:17pm
- Jack5
  
  Melania Trump’s mother, Amalija Knavs, was where Melania got her good looks from:
  
  https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/wksktkpTURBXy9mNTAzYWY0MDM1OTg1NTI1ZDg1NzBhYzM1MjQ1MmVmNC5qcGeSlQPNAXnNAa_NBabNAy2TBc0DFM0BvA
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:14pm
  - Jack5
    
    Steve Otto’s Melania’s Mother has passed…
    
    The euphemism for to die has progressed from “passed away” to “passed”.
    
    What to do when “passed” becomes too stark for many people?
    
    Will Woke people just finally be “cancelled” like a worn out or ignored library book?
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:02pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Long-time American usage.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:04pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yeah yeah yeah Jack.
      Grandma Nazi.
      
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      January 11, 2024 6:00pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Good malapropism, Steve!
        
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        January 12, 2024 6:16am
Ghost

I wonder when they will reach the stage of “if it’s yellow let it mellow, if it’s brown flush it down”. Damn I still remember that from when I was a kid

Wellington Water has announced the region will move to level 2 restrictions from midnight on Wednesday.

“This decision has been made due to very high demand, peaking at 195 million litres on Tuesday, January 9,” Wellington Water said.

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January 11, 2024 2:27pm
- krazykiwi
  
  By ‘demand’ they must include the demand of water itself insisting that it be permitted to leak, ooze and discharge at will from pipes that successive councils have failed to maintain.
  
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  January 11, 2024 2:50pm
  - cmm
    
    Yup, 196M litres would be about 900 litres per person. It is difficult to see how that would not include the lost water as well as industrial use.
    
    From a utility’s perspective, (same with electricity generation etc) they look at how much water they are pumping out, not at what is getting to the customers.
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:31pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Hi demand and the other 40% they are pissing out of leaky pipes into the harbour.
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:02pm
Jethrod

Is there a suggestion that another colleague is involved too?
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January 11, 2024 2:29pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

If you were browsing thru the racks of a high-end clothing boutique and noticed a female customer with a Keffiyeh wrapped around her head, would you….

A. Think she was showing solidarity with the Palestinian cause?

OR

B. Was trying to hide her identity from the CCTV security cameras?
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January 11, 2024 2:31pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Boom!!!
  
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  January 11, 2024 6:03pm
Jethrod

A very similar thing happened in the pursuit of Ufindell not to long ago.
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January 11, 2024 2:35pm
Jack5

Multiple sclerosis is in the news with allegations against sufferer and MP Golriz Ghahraman.

Meanwhile the original distribution of the disease has been learned from DNA of Europeans who lived thousands of years ago.

It’s long been believed that incidence of multiple sclerosis is related to geographic origins. It’s a popular belief, for example, that NZ incidence is higher in Southland and Otago because they were largely settled by Scots.

Ancient DNA compared with modern DNA now shows, that “Yamnaya” people who moved west from the Urkaine and southern Russia 5,000 years ago brought the incidence of multiple sclerosis to northern Europeans.

Ancient Yamnaya carried genetic traits that protected them from infections from their sheep and cattle. As sanitary conditions improved over the millennia, these same variants increased multiple sclerosis risk.

Reuters says researchers say this explains why northern Europeans have the world’s highest incidence of the disese.

Golriz Ghahraman was born in Iran. That country’s name, in Persian, means land of the Aryans. Persian, or Farsi, Iran’s native language is of the Indo-European family that ranges across Europe to northern India. Iranians’ ancient ancestors also seem likely to have come from the steppes of Russia and Ukraine.

According to the map at the second link below, Iran`s incidence of multiple sclerosis is higher than NZ`s (estimated at 101 cases per 100,000 people, compared with 72 per 100,000 in NZ)

Yamnaya ancestors brought the disease to northern Europe 5,000 years ago:

https://www.reuters.com/science/dna-ancient-europeans-reveals-surprising-multiple-sclerosis-origins-2024-01-10/

Rates of multiple sclerosis in various countries:

https://www.atlasofms.org/map/united-kingdom/epidemiology/number-of-people-with-ms
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January 11, 2024 2:39pm
- rangitoto
  
  Ignoring recent immigrants, Europeans are a mix of Yamnaya, Western Hunter-Gatherers and neolithic age Anatolian farmers. The exception being Sardinians, who are essentially identical to the Anatolian farmers. Otzi “the iceman” was closely associated with the Anatolian farmer group. The Yamnaya are believed to be the source of the Indo-European language family. It is odd that the US and Canada is so high on the MS map if it is purely genetic cause, I would expect the US to be near the European average.
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:17pm
RichardF

From the river to the sea, my new clothes will be free.
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January 11, 2024 2:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Now we get trigger warnings for 007 movies.
Saw my dick off! How far do these snowflakes want to take this?
Bond movies never showed a person with his guts shot out, blood and flesh parts everywhere. They were very docile.
The future World will be controlled by sissy person boys.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/james-bond-latest-in-long-list-of-classics-slapped-with-trigger-warnings/?
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January 11, 2024 3:20pm
- Ian Boag
  
  Some years ago (more than I care to remember) the wife and I were off to the movies. We thought “Die Hard 3” would be a bit on the violent side so went for “Braveheart”. We sure got that wrong … body parts and blood and guts everywhere.
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:34pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Thort I’d seen it all. That was until last year when a guy from the gun-club lent my partner a movie made back in the 70’s called…. ‘SALO’.
    
    It was sooo horrifically sickening I had my hands up to my face the entire time 🙁
    
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    January 11, 2024 3:49pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/133544627/wandering-seals-highway-rescue-prompts-nonintervention-plea
Good on these two ladies.
But as usual, DOC has to have the final say and give dire warnings, to save face.
Hey DOC ! This pup is still alive ! Rejoice !
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January 11, 2024 3:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Right wingers explained:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eFxtn25bjDI
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January 11, 2024 3:32pm
Maggie Pie

Had the trannie sitting out by the pool earlier and heard on ZB that from 31st March…..EV’s will pay $71 for every 1000km travelled.

How on earth will they collect that?
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January 11, 2024 3:35pm
- Ian Boag
  
  Same way they collect diesel RUCs
  
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  January 11, 2024 3:38pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well, sounds like that came out of the bloo then?
    Just speaking to one of the girls from tennis whos got an Audi GT e-tron.
    Reckoned she knew nothing about it.
    Already spends about 50 bucks a week on topping up.
    Sounded a bit p*ssed tbh.
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:07pm
    - cmm
      
      This was always going to happen. EVs just got a bit of a freebie for a bit.
      
      If you bought an idiot and were not aware of this well then you’re dopey.
      
      Chasing up payments will be no more difficult than with diesels. Ping anyone not showing an up to date RUC sticker.
      
      Where it gets interesting is petrol PHEVs which already pay RUC through petrol for part of their travel.
      
      I suspect the only way to make this work longterm is to take the RUC out of petrol costs and move all vehicles over to per km RUC.
      
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      January 11, 2024 4:20pm
      - cmm
        
        Bought an idiot? Sorry I meant an EV.
        
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        January 11, 2024 4:32pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        TBF cmm…I wouldn’t call Amanda ‘dopey’
        Has her own very successful RE franchise.
        Spent the best part of 300k on her car for a start.
        Two girls @ St Cuths and been divorced for over 5 years.
        
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        January 11, 2024 4:40pm
      - cmm
        
        MP, she’s got to be dopey if she thought EVs were going to be RUC-free forever.
        
        I hope she put more due diligence into her franchise purchase.
        
        Once you add RUC the “cheaper than petrol” argument starts to wear a bit thin. If you then go the further step of amortising battery cost then EV starts looking rather unfavourable.
        
        Still if she’s in top end real estate, her EV is probably the right thing to “dress for success” and impress her clients – no matter how much it costs.
        
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        January 11, 2024 5:50pm
- artemisia
  
  Good question. The paid diesel RUCs are checked at WOF point and an invoice sent if they don’t match the mileage. Diesel vehicle owners are well used to this, and as many are business vehicles they can’t afford to get caught out.
  
  EV owners – RUCs completely new to most. Some will get caught out. Some big bills coming their way. Chasing up payment will mean more public servants required of course.
  
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  January 11, 2024 4:00pm
greybeard

Ok, ok, I succumbed to temptation and Googled “Scotties”, just to see what the fuss was about.
This bit caught my eye:
“The shop also has a division, called Scotties Recycle, which offers clients the opportunity to, according to the website, “discover luxury fashion for less and reduce your carbon footprint” with a “curated collection of secondhand designer clothing.
Prices for those goods are a little lower, naturally, than the brand new clothes: you can currently pick up a cream Prada dress for just under $500.”

If you are quick you could probably pick up a cream Prada dress for nothing !
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January 11, 2024 3:49pm
fightingtemeraire

GG has made the front page of the Guardian!!!!
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January 11, 2024 4:17pm
- Rumblestrip
  
  Ooooh shit. Her lefty cred is in tatters.
  
  Even if this is all explained away as a “misunderstanding,” the reputational damage is probably terminal at this point.
  
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  January 11, 2024 4:28pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    She has been a commentator on there for some time.
    
    I assume she has been given the heave ho.
    
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    January 11, 2024 6:11pm
- fernglas
  
  She is only in the Guardian if you are reading it in New Zealand. The rest of the world has not been bothered with this trifle. If you want to read the Guardian in the way that the rest of civilisation does, get a VPN.
  
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  January 11, 2024 7:02pm
Chuck Bird

If the temp rises more than expected do you think we should go nuclear after Oz does? Thumbs up if you agree.
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January 11, 2024 4:20pm
- Rumblestrip
  
  We should go nuclear regardless. Nuclear is the cleanest, greenest and safest power generation option.
  
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  January 11, 2024 4:29pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    How about cost?
    
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    January 11, 2024 4:43pm
    - Rumblestrip
      
      That is certainly a factor.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:15pm
  - cmm
    
    “Nuclear is the cleanest, greenest and safest power generation option.”
    OK, I’ll bite.
    I used to work for Eskom, the South African power utility that operates a nuke facility near Cape Town called Koeberg. I also did some biological research diving there – diving in the harbour of the power station (right at the intakes) to get various biological samples, including crayfish. After tests and measurements had been done, the crayfish had died, but they were tasty….
    
    I also lived at a coal fired power station for 2 months (Duvha). Big bastard. About 6x the size of Huntly. These always had minor levels of smoke coming out. The place stank of sulphur. Occasionally the static scrubbers were turned off and thick black smoke came out.
    
    Yes, nukes are OPERATIONALLY very clean. There is pretty much nothing coming out of them except hot waste water. No smoke. No radiation.
    
    In fact the normal OPERATIONAL radiation from a nuke plant is way lower than a coal plant. Burning coal releases the radioactive carbon 14 into the atmosphere. But fly ash and sulphur etc compounds are worse.
    
    However cradle to grave nukes are not that clean. Pretty much everything coming out of a nuke building is considered at least low level waste. Wear overalls once, then they get thrown in the low level waste bin. The bulk of the waste is low level waste, but it all gets handled as waste. In South Africa that means being taken to a special dump a few hundred km away. There are tons of that per week. Then of course there are the higher level wastes that are really expensive to deal with and last a long time.
    
    When the nuke power station hits end of life and must be decommissioned pretty much everything must be handled as radioactive waste and takes decades to dismantle and deal with. Some of these decommissioning operations take 100 years.
    
    Decomissioning a coal station is much easier. Just wait for it to cool down and cut it up for scrap metal. No special handling.
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:41pm
    - Inthe09
      
      Interesting, thanks.
      
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      January 11, 2024 6:36pm
      - Jack5
        
        An explanation of why nuclear plants are more expensive and slower to build in the West than in Japan is given in this short video clip.
        
        It’s by German physicist and science writer Sabine Hossenfelder. If you start at 16:00 into the clip you get ten minutes or so of explaining what’s making it harder for nuclear plants in the West.
        
        https://youtu.be/5EsBiC9HjyQ?si=4RQXNQjqnuqYiTtM
        
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        January 11, 2024 7:10pm
    - Rumblestrip
      
      Uptick for insightful commentary, cheers cmm
      
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      January 11, 2024 6:43pm
Grunter

Has ‘The Green Shoplifter’ been deported already?

Or has she simply done a runner?

Either way, let’s hope it is a permanent departure from New Zealand.
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January 11, 2024 4:45pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Yip… ‘X’ has gone viral with speculation GG has already fled the country.
  
  We’re all praying it’s troo 😀
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:00pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Did watch the tennis?
    
    I am still a keen player at 80.
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:04pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      yip…one of the girls has her own box so came down to watch the final.
      Would be one of the best games we’ve seen @ stanley.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:11pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  She should go to Gaza.
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh FFS…
  
  No wonder the cops can’t advance this matter
  
  “Initial inquiries are still being made into this report and police are not able to comment further at this stage,” a police spokesperson said.
  
  How bluddy unprofessional…. Why is a MP making things difficult for the cops?
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-overseas-as-police-investigate-shoplifting-allegations-at-ponsonby-boutique/AHLEDKILYVBATDZM3T2HK4EJTY/
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:07pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Mags: Since I am such a liberal and generous chap, perhaps we have to accept the Greens’ claim that Golly G’s trip was planned “months ago”. If that is bullshit it’s likely to leak, and that would probably be game set and match for her I would think.
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:12pm
    - cmm
      
      I suspect it was planned months ago
      
      I really doubt that someone of her minor profile has anything to gain by leaving the country for things to settle down. Rather just hide in your flat/house and order in takeaways for a week.
      
      I doubt that they’d pull her passport for shoplifting, but I am not a lawyer so WTF would I know.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:21pm
      - David Garrett
        
        cmm: No, there is no way one’s passport would be “pulled” even if she had actually been charged with theft (shoplifting is simply a form of theft) and at this stage she apparently hasn’t been charged with anything.
        
        Rumble: Not necessarily. The standard legal advice to someone who the police are considering charging is to NOT make any kind of statement, either to them or publicly. She would certainly have received legal advice.
        
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        January 11, 2024 5:39pm
      - cmm
        
        DG: I wonder whether the arrogant (inaudible) would take legal advice from anyone but herself.
        
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        January 11, 2024 5:44pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      If GG was acting as a professional, she would not have placed her Party in to a position where they had to contact Scotties to find out what was going on.
      
      And if the Greens had any integrity, they should have fronted up to the public on 23rd Dec, when the MP was accused of shop-lifting.
      
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      January 11, 2024 5:42pm
      - cmm
        
        There is no reason at all for Greens to contact the Scotties.
        
        According to Stuff, they did so to “discuss the situation” or some such words. What is there to discuss unless they were trying to make the problem go away?
        
        That’s likely why they waited 17 days to make any announcement – they were hoping it would fizzle.
        
        If they had planned to be upfront then the ideal thing would have been to announce it on 24th – to be buried under Christmas.
        
        Often it’s the cover up that’s worse than the original crime. Perhaps this will take down a few more Greenies…
        
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        January 11, 2024 5:58pm
  - Rumblestrip
    
    So, the latest allegation is now that an MP was caught stealing then promptly left the country?
    
    This is looking more and more like a whirlwind of total self-destruction.
    
    By the way, I know if I was an MP falsely accused of theft, I would be loudly and angrily proclaiming my innocence. The wall of silence from GG is starting to speak volumes.
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:20pm
- cmm
  
  As tantalizing as it is to speculate, nobody is going to do a runner for shoplifting.
  
  Where else in the world would she find as good a wicket as NZ?
  
  Sure she could be biffed as an MP, but there are still many options for her here and pretty much SFA elsewhere.
  
  I wonder whether she has even retained her non-NZ citizenship.
  
  I doubt she will even get a conviction because that would be “manifestly unfair” etc hampering her foreign travel. She likely has an important trip coming up later this year when she and Chloe etc will have to go throw a wobbly at Trump’s likely inauguration. However she might have to stump up for the ticket if she is no longer an MP.
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:17pm
- rjay
  
  I think it’s called “doing a bunkle” (as in Phillida).
  
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  January 11, 2024 8:09pm
Maggie Pie

Sounds like things are about to go from bad to worse for GG.
Greens are in panic mode.
Speculation as to who else was involved.
Even my paetner reckins he hasn’t had so much fun since his grandmother died.
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January 11, 2024 5:16pm
- David Garrett
  
  Sounds like things are about to go from bad to worse for GG.
  
  Do elaborate…if you in fact know more than is currently public…
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:31pm
  - artemisia
    
    Cam Slater on X has a list of random impertinent questions.
    
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    January 11, 2024 6:22pm
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      You can bet your bottom dollar he already knows the answer to them.
      
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      January 11, 2024 7:57pm
    - Ghost
      
      Not sure why people still follow him. He’s a liar. I still member his attacks on Key and claiming he had an affair and that was why he resigned. Seriously, far better people to follow than him. A nasty piece of work who carried out some vile personal attacks on people
      
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      January 11, 2024 8:02pm
  - Rumblestrip
    
    The latest in the drip-feed of news about this is the report that at least some in the Green Party were aware of the incident on the day it happened – 23 December.
    
    So…
    * Why was this obvious scandal kept secret for three weeks, then allowed to leak out bit by bit, instead of being hit head-on as a major PR crisis?
    * Why did the Greens let GG leave the country considering the critical nature of the allegations (or did she leave quietly)?
    * Why has there been no statement from GG? Being out of the country is no excuse at all; even if she is Timbuktu or the South Pole she will have access to email and internet.
    
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    January 11, 2024 6:43pm
- MCōs
  
  How many rumours is that today, eh?
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:34pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Don’t be in such a rush Cossie!!
    
    Have I ever put you wrong?
    
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    January 11, 2024 5:55pm
- kevn
  
  Maggie… Welcome back.
  It seems gg has popped off overseas. Back ‘home’ to see the rellies? No, more likely some Pacific island hideout.
  
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  January 11, 2024 6:15pm
Jack5

Is this another case of cultural genocide by the National Library? Or is it mere Woke favouritism?

It has rescued 5,000 of the treasure trove of photographs lost to New Zealand by former Stuff owner Fairfax Media, but these to be historic pictures of indigenous life, if the Guardian is to believed.

Fairfax Fairfax Media sent millions of images from the archives of its Australian and New Zealand newspapers to an American company that offered to digitise them sell the originals for a profit. Presumably the digital rights would have gone back to Fairfax.

The American company went bankrupt, and is selling some of the images on line, but hundreds of thousands will be lost.

The National Library has obtained more than 5,000 photographs of “indigenous life” in NZ.

What about the rest of the country’s history?

You have to wonder whether this performance is a repeat of the National Library five years ago purging 600,000 books from its overseas collections. This was purportedly to make room for shelf space for new books – no doubt frequently Maori and mostly Woke. It would take half a century or more of New Zealand new titles to fill space made vacant.

That caused a row, but didn’t stop the Nazi-scale book loss. This was the national book collection. A resort for the whole country.

Librarians’ arguments included that books were now available internationally online, though digital records are not as assuredly long-life as traditional printed books.

If the National Library is going to bat for Maori, who will stand up for these cultural records of the rest of the country?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/506252/national-library-saves-fairfax-photo-archive-from-us-landfill

AND

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018727501/national-library-withdraws-600-000-books-from-its-collection

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/11/duncan-miller-gallery-los-angeles-new-zealand-history-photos
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January 11, 2024 5:36pm
- MCōs
  
  The books in the picture would have hardly been worth saving . . .
  
  Having said that I have books I’ve not looked at for 20-30yrs if at all
  Don’t anyone dare suggest I chuck them out. I’ll get to them!
  
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  January 11, 2024 6:08pm
  - Jack5
    
    Legally, publishers must deposit with the National Library a copy of every title published in NZ.
    
    Presumably these weren’t culled.
    
    In this country fewer than 2,500 titles are published a year.
    
    In America and the UK a total of about 460,000 titles are published a year.
    
    In a remote country like NZ, it is surely wise for a very deep international book collection to be created and securely maintained.
    
    Print-on-paper books are still the most secure forms of archiving.
    
    A study conducted by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) with the Library of Congress, found that the lifespan of CD’s and DVD’s can range from as little as two years to more than 30 years. (First link below).
    
    Data centres are also subject to danger. (Second link.)
    
    https://www.howtogeek.com/854137/how-long-do-cds-and-dvds-last/
    
    And:
    
    https://dgtlinfra.com/data-center-fires/
    
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    January 11, 2024 6:31pm
Ghost

The saddest part today is the media have failed in their attempt to try and shift focus away from Golriz to some nobody getting married.

Poor media
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January 11, 2024 5:40pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Heck, I’ve already put in my orders for Next week’s
  Woman’s Weekly -NZ
  Woman’s Weekly -Oz
  Woman’s Day
  Listener
  & M2 Woman
  
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  January 11, 2024 5:47pm
  - cmm
    
    Please tell me it is because of some new recipes.
    
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    January 11, 2024 6:01pm
    - Ghost
      
      Oh everyone who’s anyone will be buying the woman’s mags to see what Maggie Pie got up to in her vacation, exclusive never seen before pictures of the fish her partner caught at new world. Advice on what to do with all the leftovers, and that cheap arse gift someone tried to pass off as expensive.
      
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      January 11, 2024 9:38pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wot about ‘No Idea?’
    
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    January 11, 2024 6:19pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh, that will be full of the Tasmanian Queen-to-be.
      
      I don’t think a NZ celeb will get a look-in.
      
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      January 11, 2024 7:02pm
- Rich Prick
  
  That nobody ought to check wedding present cards. Receiving an’ all.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:06pm
Damocles11

It’s the height of summer and the weather is hot. This seems to have driven the Leftist media into absolute hysteria. According to reporter Ryan Boswell – reporting from a beach – on OneNews, prolonged exposure to the sun can cause sunstroke and (drumroll please) “even sunburn”. Shock horror. This is the lead story in OneNews btw.
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January 11, 2024 6:05pm
- KiwiSapper
  
  “reporter Ryan Boswell ”
  Poor Dear, we have to make allowances as he doesn’t get out very much.
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:21pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    It must be said, he did look rather pink on the face, despite his left wing straw hat.
    
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    January 12, 2024 6:19am
Maggy Wassilieff

Is it au fait to serve blueberry cheesecake/icecream at upmarket weddings?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/bay-blueberries-trees-in-hastings-targeted-by-group-of-thieves-in-the-night-they-stripped-all-our-berries/2WIG47O5OBBLPBAX2NTTKRVHSQ/#
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January 11, 2024 6:16pm
- Ghost
  
  It’s sounds like Maggy is getting married this weekend, everyone is invited only if your present isn’t from scotties.
  
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  January 11, 2024 6:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I got married 45-46 years ago (I can’t remember the year).
    Once is enuf!
    
    It definitely wasn’t an upmarket occasion.
    
    Hubby and I didn’t invite anyone, but told folks we’d be down at “Anvil House” around 11am, and there might be a bite to eat and a drop to drink back at our flat.
    
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    January 11, 2024 7:12pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Police reply – “it’s an isolated incident “
  
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  January 11, 2024 7:23pm
Maggie Pie

1EWES

Skipper of ‘Sea Sheppard’ calling for NZ fisheries to be closed down!

Why? Cos somebody caught 4 Mauri Dolfins in their net.

Id say… “Offity piss ya moron!!”
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January 11, 2024 6:27pm
- Ian Boag
  
  Maui dolphins. I can save DG the necessity to be pedantic 🙂 Would it have been OK if they had only caught 3?
  
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  January 11, 2024 7:28pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Without wishing to speak on DG’s behalf, I can assure you that we pedants consider it a calling, a pleasure, sometimes even a joy. Never a mere necessity. You know exactly what I mean.
    
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    January 11, 2024 9:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder if we will get a full frontal exposé tomorrow from the MSM… or just another day of titillation.
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January 11, 2024 9:42pm
- Ghost
  
  I believe tomorrows headlines will be along the lines of
  
  Something about Christopher Luxon
  Some person getting married
  Pigs spotted growing wings and flying
  And the main story, David Farrar buys stuff, renames it The Farrar Post
  
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  January 11, 2024 9:48pm
- Rumblestrip
  
  Political journalists are, at their core, predators. At this point there is just too much blood in the water to wave them off.
  
  My prediction is there will be a feeding frenzy. GG will be mobbed by reporters when she returns to NZ. The only question is when it will happen.
  
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  January 11, 2024 10:02pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Ooo-er, Missus!
  
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  January 12, 2024 6:20am
Klondike

So was the ‘planned’ trip only booked on the 24th coincidentally ? You are a public figure and already got nabbed once, couldn’t make this up. Awesome ! And I though as a greenie you were against unnecessary air travel ?
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