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Tomtoddy

Increasingly the world’s food production is not only burdened with regulation, green directives, endless petty cultural restrictions but now the WEF is demanding that nations take control of the whole food chain through the banking system which in itself is state controlled. Individual farmers are hedged in with tight controls now and more and more direction and management is being grabbed by the state at the behest of green lobby groups and the more sinister Davos supremacists.
https://www.weforum.org/whitepapers/green-returns-unleashing-the-power-of-finance-for-sustainable-food-systems

https://investinholland.com/news/the-netherlands-and-the-world-economic-forum-launch-food-innovation-hubs-initiative/
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September 1, 2023 8:04am
- Frank the tank
  
  One only has to look at what they did to Sri Lanka to understand what the effect of the WEF plans for economies such as NZ will look like.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:11am
- Matt Long
  
  No, no, it’s all a conspiracy theory, and the leader of the opposition hasn’t heard of the WEF.
  Customers are demanding these changes, except they aren’t; it’s the corporations that control food distribution that are.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:21am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Indeed, like that other conspiracy theory that the financiers will force us all to adopt their insane ideology. As revealed by Blackrock boss Larry Fink recently.
    
    https://www.themainewire.com/2023/06/flashback-blackrock-ceo-says-investment-firm-forces-companies-to-change-behavior-on-diversity-with-threats-of-impacts-to-compensation/
    
    Well, here’s another example. Australia Bank won’t lend money to anyone wanting to buy a fossil fuel vehicle.
    
    https://thewest.com.au/business/cnbc/bank-australia-to-scrap-loans-for-new-diesel-and-petrol-cars-as-country-looks-to-increase-ev-uptake-c-7960618
    
    Democracy is dying. We are being taken over by moneyed interests via the WEF, UN and WHO. All heavily funded by private money. None of them democratically elected. None of them represent you and I.
    
    Reminds me of a quote I came across 20 years ago, at the time I thought it was an interesting concept.
    
    GIVE me control of a nation’s money supply, and I care not who makes its laws.
    
    So said Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
    
    Turns out it wasn’t a conspiracy theory after all. We are living in an epochal moment.
    
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    September 1, 2023 8:37am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      There is financing in these car dealerships that means no need for woke banks
      
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      September 1, 2023 8:49am
      - kowtow
        
        That’s not the point , is it.
        
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        September 1, 2023 9:26am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        G – where do the car dealerships get their money from?
        The point is, those in control of the money supply can force behavioural changes, whether you like it or not.
        It’s started, it’s not a conspiracy theory, and it is going to get worse. It’s the implementation of a CCP style ‘social credit score’ system which means if you wish to participate in society, you will be compelled to behave in ways not decided by you.
        
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        September 1, 2023 10:24am
    - Master Mariner
      
      As Mussolini stated, Fascism is the seamless amalgamation of corporations and State.
      Here we have the chosen “Partners” making policy on us mere mortals.
      What could go wrong.
      Who can forget ex PM statement after winning election that “Capitalism has failed”.
      Here lies your answer, Definately no Leader but a mere Follower.
      Another interesting thing is , On the WEF website JA came up with 1300+ hits while recently only 700+. Has the rest been scrubbed?
      
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      September 1, 2023 9:19am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Not sure, there is a lot of ‘memory holing’ going on currently.
        I posted re the Pfizer/EU contract, the latest version of which has been heavily redacted. Well worth a 5 minute read.
        
        https://dailysceptic.org/2023/08/30/the-scandalous-eu-contract-with-pfizer-biontech-has-been-online-for-two-years-why-has-nobody-seen-it/
        
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        September 1, 2023 10:27am
      - Che Guava
        
        “Corporations” in the context of fascism aren’t the equivalents of companies like Blackrock, Meta or Google. The concept of a “corporation” was really the equivalent of something like a guild. A corporation is a body, and isn’t restricted to companies, which are just a subset of the wider concept.
        
        In the sense that we have “corporations” calling the shots and funding politics in 2023, this is a feature of capitalism rather than a feature of fascism. It is inconceivable that Mussolini or Hitler would have taken their marching orders from shareholders of Siemens or Krupp or the Italian equivalents, whereas the logic of capitalism sees companies becoming so massive and having such resources that it is inevitable that they will control all politicians and not the other way around.
        
        Corporate control of politics is a feature of end-stage capitalism.
        
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        September 1, 2023 11:01am
      - farbeyond
        
        Leninism like policies from top-to-bottom.
        Mao’s cultural revolution from bottom-up.
        
        Let it play out and re-apply the theory when the results end in catastrophe. Keep doing the work to usher the utopia.
        
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        September 1, 2023 11:39am
      - kowtow
        
        Sorry replying to farbeyond I reported by accident .
        
        ‘Mao’s cultural revolution from bottom-up.’
        
        Nope , there was nothing “bottom up” about that dictator .It was all top down , my way or death comrade.
        
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        September 1, 2023 12:48pm
      - farbeyond
        
        Reply to kowtow:
        
        yes, I understand what you mean. He was. But, his red guard was from the bottom, namely young idealist students looking for purpose that were fed hate towards the 4 olds – ideas, customs, culture, habits. I can definitely see a resemblance on what’s happening all over the world with the woke movement… that’s the bottom-up side they are pushing.
        
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        September 1, 2023 3:53pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That’s rubbish, Nats are going to cut the unworkable regulations, they are going to use science to drop y naturally, and they have vowed to try and reduce costs on all farming and businesses for that matter.
    
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    September 1, 2023 8:47am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Lets see G for [Mod – use proper blog names]. Nats have a shed load to do and need to carry the populace with them so they can cut the public service down to size.
      
      I have my doubts they have the nous and toughness to get a proper job down. No Joyce, No Ryall et al in this National caucus – hard, smart and no nonsense people.
      
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      September 1, 2023 10:58am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        So Reti will easily match Ryall, I think Willis is showing to be outstanding, and Luxon will have the boys that may not be seen till he is pm, we have two choices .
        
        Call me silly names if you want, but it’s fact
        
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        September 1, 2023 1:05pm
      - AitchW
        
        I think you’re right, and I also think that a National led government will burn a lot of support in its first 3 years in cutting waste and and profligate spending. Hopefully not so much so much as to cost it the next election.
        
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        September 1, 2023 6:02pm
- cmm
  
  You will ~~own~~ eat nothing and be happy.
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:14pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Can the new brooms please just tell the UN and WEF to piss off ???
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:41pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Luxon has stated before when media throw the rotten UN at him over a policy, the UN does not run this country
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:09pm
    - mawm
      
      Then he is talking B/S. The UN gets a country to do what it wants by threatening trade sanctions, raising the interest of or calling in loans, etc. He’ll fall in line with nary a squeak.
      
      BlackRock has been offered a foot in the door by our last PM, it’s now a matter of time before they are buying up our farms. What will Luxon do? It’s not hard to guess.
      
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      September 1, 2023 3:10pm
      - Ghost
        
        Blackrock have had a foot in the door for a long time. They own shares in spark. AMP and ASB have outsourced their investment decision to blackrock. They are also involved in the pension fund and have been since before the Ardern government.
        
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        September 1, 2023 3:20pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        “They own shares in spark.”
        
        Hence social media sparkholes publicly fawning over woke silliness recently?
        
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        September 1, 2023 3:23pm
- waikatosinger
  
  Communists engineering a famine. Who would have ever imagined.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:05pm
- Jim
  
  True but the financial system is actually privately owned including the IMF.
  
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  September 2, 2023 6:22am
Warren

We got to the stage when Jacinda Ardern was Prime Minister that her policies were led by lies and deciet and while she was rewarded with the Queens highest honour it has turned the award into a joke.
Now we have Prime Minister Hipkins doing the exact replica with just about every time he opens his mouth in the race to what Party wins the October 2023 Election.
But it is not only him that is using disinformation to smear the National Party and gather vote they are in cohort with the New Zealand Media which are also dishonest, corrupt and deceitful on spreading Prime Minister Chris Hipkins lies.
I believed I would never see the day in New Zealand Politics that this would happen but it seems that many Labour Voters want Prime Minister to turn this election into a literary of lies and make our Country the laughing stock of the world.
Labour deceitful, dishonest and corrupt and are there for themselves not New Zealander’s.
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September 1, 2023 8:06am
- pdm
  
  literary or litany of lies Warren?
  
  Last sentence is bang on by the way.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:25am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Predictive texting, it’s a bastard !
    
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    September 1, 2023 8:50am
  - kowloon
    
    literary or litany….
    probably should have read… ‘literacy of lies’; since mostly everything Labour says is a lie, the NEW LITERACY.
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:58am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Labour have always been deceitful, dishonest and corrupt, but Ardern pushed it so hard that suddenly it was there for all to see.
  Media? What are they going to do after Oct 14th? There will be no more PIJF. They may have to report the truth!
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:28am
  - imalwaysright
    
    S.O
    With the scale of work required to get New Zealand back on track, and the need for unpopular changes , it may be that the incoming government sees a compliant media as an asset.
    
    Labours Pjif parasol could be nationals Pjif umbrella .
    
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    September 1, 2023 8:38am
  - Clyde
    
    No Steve, the role of the MSM will be to continue to attack anyone who is opposed to the ideological crap served up by Liemore, the Watermelons and the Racist Pardy. They have embarked upon a journey that is wedded to the socialist dogma. If Nats/ACT have the balls they will clean out the RNZ/TVNZ Boards. They will also withdraw funding from any University activity that houses these socialists – for a start have a look at the University of Otago Law School.
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:18am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I like your last sentence. There is so much cancer needs knifing. Media – the bloated Public Sector.
      People will not like some changes, but NZ needs to move away, away from the socialist bullshit. I have about 20 years (hopefully) left on this planet. I hope I see some changes before I clock out.
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:52pm
  - Mark Hanley
    
    Read Hooten’s latest article to see the despicable NZ media’s naked ambition for the reinstatement of the ruinous Labour Party.
    
    Hooten obviously has no moral compass at all.
    
    And as for Hootens identification of Labour’s many faults in the article, why hasn’t he been reporting these faults since 2017?
    
    LABOUR’s faults have been there since day one. It is too late now to prevent the inevitable disaster the Labour hierarchy”s self enrichment schemes created..
    
    One can only hope Luxon’s moral compass leads him to investigate the spending / corruption / fraud and then prosecute malfeance
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:31am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Steady on.
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:57am
- Paulus
  
  Presumably now that it is full on election Chippy is being told what to lies he is to use by the Labour Party Head Office.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:30am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Fraser house has no morals
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:28am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Once the people swing, they pick up the lies snd dig their toes in
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:50am
- Simon
  
  The election should be held now. After 2020 Labo had it all on a plate. The crash & burn of the Labo party over the last 3 yrs is a compete and utter. All that remains is bitterness and frustration. Labo will work out its anger by lying, cheating & dividing society as much as possible over the last remaining weeks.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:55am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The big buildup to show they have really fucked over NZ.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:02am
  - AitchW
    
    Thank god the house has risen for the last time so no more sabotage legislation can be rammed through under urgency.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:42am
  - Colville
    
    Simon.
    I wish we could delay the election for another month or two.
    Labour are digging themselves into a deeper hole every day that goes by and the longer that goes on the fewer Muppets will have jobs in November.
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:55pm
- Jim
  
  If anyone has to tell you what to think:
  Examples include, we’ll be the most open and honest government, be kind etc
  
  You can guarantee they are actually the exact opposite, and are unable to be objectively judged purely on merit.
  
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  September 2, 2023 6:25am
Tony Stuart

Where’s the Disinformation Project when you need them?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/08/election-2023-labour-accused-of-spreading-disinformation-online-as-national-mp-defends-climate-question.html
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September 1, 2023 8:08am
- Blog-aholic
  
  That is the kind of disinformation they ‘cannot’ see because their paychecks have it written in fine print ‘please ignore’.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:16am
- CJames
  
  You know the answer already Tony. The definition is flexible and ever expanding. But basically, disinformation is anything that goes against what Labour espouses.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:17am
- Tricati
  
  We haven’t seen or heard much of Megan Woods lately so we can now guess what she’s been up too. As Labour’s campaign manager, she’s busy organizing all the ‘nasty’ stuff to throw at National as they (Labour) have FA to show for 6 years of drunken spending.
  Unfortunately, there will be more to come and I hope National/ACT don’t stoop to that level
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:20am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Go to her FB page which turns up on mine showing I am following which I am not, every single comment is derogatory, she never replies unless one person says hi labour
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:30am
  - AitchW
    
    Sooner or later others will tire of the endless smears promoted by the left. Most NZers are decent people and will gravitate toward the more dignified party.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:46am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I think you will find the people tired of these useless hateful smearing assholes, everyone I speaks to says time for a change, the PM can give no detail when asked even a simple question, his ohhhhh and shhhhhs, and I didn’t have time to formulate an answer is pathetic
      
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      September 1, 2023 11:28am
- Frank the tank
  
  “Researching” National/Act/NZ First candidates’ social media
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The time for telling lies is running out. I see a shitload of lies by Labour being exposed after Oct 14th. Bloody good job.
  Now you know why she ran.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:33am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, snd Robertson is in hiding, that is why they want rid of Uffindell, he will find the stolen billions, and Robertson knows it, he has probably already heard Ufindell has been checking the fraudster out
    
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    September 1, 2023 8:53am
    - Tricati
      
      I really hope Luxon publicly states he is putting Uffindell in charge of a unit to investigate dubious spending, or spending that there is no appreciable outcomes from. This will put the shits up many within Labour, and their consultants/lacky’s. The investigation should be done, in part, with the Auditor General to ensure all avenues/aspects of Labour’s spending as a government is scrutinized.
      
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      September 1, 2023 3:26pm
      - Ghost
        
        Waste of time and money, the money is gone, spent, you get no result from doing this but to hold up a report and claim this is what labour did with the money. Labour won’t care. The public won’t care, only a few political junkies will take notice of such a thing.
        
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        September 1, 2023 3:30pm
      - sungsamning
        
        It’d need to be a big unit.
        
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        September 1, 2023 9:45pm
  - bjools
    
    “the time or honouring yourself (Chris) is at an end ….Highness”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEMPyjATNC0
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:16am
- ClanMcleod
  
  When it comes to narrative control and propaganda, I’ve compared NZ to North Korea numerous times over the last 4 years. At first, it was a done with a little bit of hyperbole.
  
  No longer, it’s an observable fact. It’s also very scary. We are rapidly moving into a socialist dystopia. Here’s hoping a change of government can fix this. It’s a massive job.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:45am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Hey Clan You might have seen this…..
    https://youtu.be/vWkepoLUZfs
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:13am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      “Attention, non-compliant resident alert”
      
      Ultimate control.
      
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      September 1, 2023 10:13am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      It’s a documentary and on the way unless it’s stopped very soon.
      
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      September 1, 2023 10:45am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Everyone who claims there is a climate crisis is spreading disinformation.
  
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/barry-brill-a-climate-crisis-let-s-ask-an-expert
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:56am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It’s a bigger lie than covid was. The pivot to the ‘climate’ narrative was widely predicted, covid was a practice run to see what could be imposed on people without backlash.
    
    The ‘Climate’ narrative is next level tyranny and everybody in parliament appears to be on board.
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:25am
    - cmm
      
      It’s a bigger lie than covid ~~was~~ is.
      
      It ain’t finished yet baby!
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:17pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Will the Nats/ACT defund the so-called Disinformation Project? Has either party said anything?
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:04pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Um, shuts g them down is what a communist regime would do, or a dictatorial one
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:16pm
    - alphabeatrium
      
      I don’t want them “shut down”, I just don’t want them to get taxpayer funding.
      
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      September 1, 2023 3:56pm
    - Pope Punctilious II
      
      Huh? Why would a communist government shut down a neo-Marxist propaganda outfit?
      
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      September 1, 2023 4:55pm
Grunter

Something is very wrong when the “developed western world” consider Argentina’s Milei a dangerous radical. Socialism is the problem. Milei is the answer to stop the damage caused by money printing and endless govt over spending.

A very clear wake up call for NZ. Right now we are on the Argentinian socialism path to destruction.

Time for a change.

https://mises.org/wire/javier-milei-not-problem-argentina-socialism
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September 1, 2023 8:09am
David Garrett

Bit of a chilly morning up here in the Kingdom…only 21C this morning…Tongans all in puffer jackets and beanies…
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September 1, 2023 8:09am
- hullkiwi
  
  Ha, ha.
  
  1st September and we’ve got fog and frost in Central Rodney!
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:17am
- Colville
  
  -1C on the beach is Hawkes Bay this morning DG… a ripper frost…..but glass calm sea and not a breath of wind.
  
  The spa set at a toasty 39.6C…. so a good spot for the first coffee of the day to watch the tuis in the trees.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:26am
- Ehlana
  
  If it goes below 20, you’ll need to break out the fur coats.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Turn those heat pumps up.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:35am
  - David Garrett
    
    Steve O: Indeed…I would very much like a bed warmer up here, but sadly my requirements seem to eliminate every possible candidate:
    
    1. Over 40
    2. Good English
    3. Intelligent
    4. Not the size of a house
    
    I’ll leave you to guess which one of the above criteria is the most difficult to satisfy.
    
    ( I don’t care if she is religious, so long as she doesn’t expect me to be)
    
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    September 1, 2023 8:47am
    - Phronesis
      
      Here you go: https://www.briscoes.co.nz/product/1092969/goldair-platinum-wifi-electric-blanket-qn-gpebsq-q/
      
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      September 1, 2023 10:20am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Back to the hot water bottle then
      
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      September 1, 2023 6:13pm
- Gravelroad
  
  “Puffer jackets and beanies”?
  Colonialism much.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:43am
  - David Garrett
    
    Gravel: Tonga was never colonized, so that is not available as an excuse for any failures by the Tongan state or among the people…but they were colonized by 19th Century Missionaries…lots of what is now “Tongan culture” is in fact 19th Century Victorian culture: strict observance of the sabbath – only eating sleeping and going to church permitted; wearing mourning black for a year for widows (and various shorter periods depending on one’s relationship with the deceased); inspecting the blood stained sheet on the morning after the wedding…all now considered “faka Tonga” (the Tongan way)
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:58am
    - Don Beckett
      
      DG. I thought the Germans sort of colonised Tonga. When I worked in Auckland as a production manager in an AHI company, there were many Tongans there – my best workers and very easy to get on with. Maybe I got it wrong.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:13pm
      - John Loveridge
        
        You’re not thinking of German Samoa, are you?
        
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        September 1, 2023 12:41pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Don: The Germans colonized Samoa…until we took it over in 1914…our first and so far only attempt at colonization did not go well.
        
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        September 1, 2023 2:18pm
- Jethrod
  
  What softies!!!!
  Try 2 in Havelock North
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:08am
- Dave
  
  Ah yes. I began a teaching stint in Hong Kong in early autumn in extremely hot weather, by Auckland standards. When the temperature dropped one morning to 27-28 degrees, pupils were suddenly wearing jerseys.
  
  About two months later, the winter monsoon started, bringing coolish – but definitely not frigid – air out of central/northern Asia. For 2-3 days there was a strange, inexplicable smell in the MTR (underground railway) and then it clicked – all those North Face jackets taken out of mothballs.
  
  About the same time, I thought one morning something had gone seriously wrong with my distance vision when a familiar tall building, perhaps 300m distant on the street I walked every weekend to the market, now appeared quite blurry; Shenzhen was exporting its air pollution.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:22am
  - david
    
    Dave,
    I think what you encountered was the famous “yellow dust season” which happens at the time when Asian wind flows reverse in Spring and several million tonnes of the Gobi Desert get stirred up into the wind and blanket much of the Chinese seaboard, Yellow Sea and Korea. The ability to see clearly across the street is compromised for about a month and it all settles down until the next reversal brings the air mass from the south which brings the annual rainy season about the time of the harvest festival when it floods .
    Cheers
    Another Dave
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:55am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      There is the pure pollution haze as well. Yellow dust can seriously affect Beijing, but Hong Kong in the far south not so much. I recall looking at the sun with a naked eye, and seeing a circle like viewing the moon, in daytime. And that was in Xian/Shaanxi. Out in the rural countryside it could look like a light fog, but did not bake off in the sun like it does here.
      Can’t be great to breathe that for years on end. In the least polluted areas, like southern Yunnan, the clarity is comparible to NZ – but that is mountains and greenery more like here.
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:34pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Same in Siem Reap, Cambodia,
  temperature plummeted(oops fell in the NZ MSM hyperbole trap-should have said dropped) to 24c overnight.
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:35pm
Maggie Pie

Yet another reason why some people might want to remain anonymous on SM….

https://www.rebelnews.com/aussie_bank_warns_customers_mean_comments_online_may_get_your_account_frozen_or_closed
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September 1, 2023 8:21am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yep,
  “Your score would then be publicly ranked against that of the entire population and used to determine your eligibility for a mortgage or a job, where your children can go to school — even your chances of getting a date.”
  
  https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/how-banks-could-use-an-online-score-to-judge-you/news-story/009ca6df681c5fc69f583c4feac718c2
  
  Here’s the shitty part,
  
  https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/-/media/project/sites/rbnz/files/consultations/future-of-money/future-of-money—central-bank-digital-currency/13178988401_anon.pdf
  
  “3. The consequences of a poor social credit score could be serious. It may affect travel
  prospects, employment, access to finance, and the ability to enter into contracts. On the
  other hand, a positive credit score could make a range of business transactions much easier.”
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:44am
- David Garrett
  
  Maggie: Well Bugger me…who would ever have thought that banks would begin to act like totalitarian states?
  
  I guess I’d better start being careful about what I say on here (this being my only “social media” presence)
  
  If they start closing accounts for foolishness done in one’s youth I am really in trouble…
  
  Completely off topic, it is so nice Milky/Mike/Mikenmild etc. is not here…did he get a holiday, or did he steam off in a huff? Again.
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:54am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    He’s still here in spirit David. Still likes to get his rocks off giving me a downtick or three. And you as well by the look of it 😀
    
    Hey….I see Brian’s back.
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:12am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Oh joy…….
      
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      September 1, 2023 9:27am
    - pdm
      
      When I looked he was collecting down ticks like they were going out of fashion.
      
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      September 1, 2023 9:40am
    - David Garrett
      
      Maggie: Yes, I noticed the sudden stink when the double killer suddenly arrived…
      
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      September 1, 2023 10:01am
      - Notsofast
        
        Things are not always as they seem.
        
        https://natlib.govt.nz/records/20782539
        
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        September 1, 2023 11:04am
- Notsofast
  
  Yes the first salvo was the Telecoms abomination in flaunting Shaneel Lal as the godhead. It will soon be impossible to reverse the move to create a society of eunuchs. Message boards like this are on their last legs.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:44am
SmokerGuy

I hope National haven’t made a big mistake re the clause preventing Chinese from being taxed on houses if kiwis aren’t. It worries me, I can’t contemplate another 3 years of this government.
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September 1, 2023 8:24am
- Colville
  
  Sounded like a total media beat up to me.
  
  Its not discrimination if all non NZ residents are treated the same.
  
  National isnt picking on you for having “a Chinky sounding name” for instance.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:49am
  - Colville
    
    Americans are not complaining..
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132855849/us-billionaires-eyeing-up-auckland-as-national-party-teases-lift-of-buyer-ban?cid=app-android
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:51am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    It’s a complete beat up. Currently Chinese buyers can’t buy NZ property at all, do they think the Chinese government is going to complain about the ban being lifted, even with the 15% tax? LOL.
    
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    September 1, 2023 5:07pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Parker is talking about Chinese residents, Willis stated she had legal advice and ministerial advice, snd both stated Singapore and New South Wales were tgd only jurisdictions that would create trouble, did Nats not bring this exact same thing up with foreign buyers? Yet Labour we’re able to ban them
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:25pm
Philview

I have been contemplating overnight the fact that New Zealand has forecast growth coming 158th out of 159 countries. Coupled with the worst current account deficit as a percent of GDP in the developed world. We are used to Labour leaving the country in a mess but they have gone too far this time. It seems even countries crippled with sanctions are performing better. Get that on a billboard National Party!
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September 1, 2023 8:30am
Matt Long

Man takes long horn bull in modified car on a road trip.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6336202636112
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September 1, 2023 8:31am
- kevn
  
  Matt… The animal was so placid it could have been fake, until I saw the streams of bullshit down the side of his LICE car. Made me think of the labour incumbents. Streaming it constantly.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:54am
Matt Long

Rich Men North of Richmond, protest song writer talks to Joe Rogan about leftist reaction.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rogan-oliver-anthony-mock-liberal-critiques-rich-men-north-richmond
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September 1, 2023 8:34am
Spring Bank Westie

I’m not a proponent of damaging or defacing election billboards, I’m not a Labour party member FFS, but it did occur to me that just the smallest line of black marker between the front teeth on those odious In It For You posters would reveal the uncanny resemblance of the PM to Alfred E Neuman. Bring on the memes.
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September 1, 2023 8:35am
- kowtow
  
  Not advocating; but it would be fun to obscure the the ‘in’ and add ‘We’ , then put an ‘sh’ in front of “it” delete /obscure the ‘f’ in ‘for’ and change the r there to an n.
  
  we shit on you.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:48am
  - cmm
    
    Some in the very lefty shithole of East Chch were modified to
    
    “In you” by spraying out two words.
    
    What is really interesting is seeing how few posters are out. Normally East Chch is awash with Labour signs.
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:24pm
    - John Loveridge
      
      It might reflect their dire fundraising results to date.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:43pm
  - Yabster
    
    just put Ru in front of the slogan “in it for you”…
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:24pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Snap! I did first hear it on Kiwiblog.
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:49pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  I think Howdy Doody is closer….do a google search.
  
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  September 1, 2023 5:13pm
kowtow

What other “charities” disrupt the debating chamber and get trespassed from parliament .

What sitting MP was a party to it.

When will te media pahti wake up to the fact that food is life and exports are our wealth and stop attacking farming.
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September 1, 2023 8:37am
sirknz

Is there an election happening soon or something?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-western-bay-of-plenty-police-retail-crime-unit-arrests-dozens-of-prolific-thieves/D6VRUDXASFHHRL2BRHRRQXDTLQ/

I mean, we’ve had nothing much being done about this sort of thing for the last 6 years and now all of a sudden we have a dedicated unit in the Bay of Plenty.

Weird…
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September 1, 2023 8:42am
hullkiwi

This is a post I never in my wildest dreams I ever thought I would post, but after 6 years of the most inept government any of us have seen in our lifetimes…..

I give you two countries, that appear to be on two sets of parallel lines.

Both countries are part of Oceania or Australasia….

Both are part of the Commonwealth, with Westminster style parliaments, and unicameral houses.

Papua New Guinea.
A land commonly said to have only 3 growth industries, these being: crime, compensation, and corruption. A land where the government/parliament is full of inept politicians that corruptly look after their “Wontoks” (ie those back in their electorates who vote them in to bring home the aid money). A country that despite its wealth of resources, struggles to achieve positive economic growth….

Then there is New Zealand….
Over the past 6 years where it appears the only growth industries have been: crime, compensation and corruption. The economic growth of the country is in the gutter, ranked alongside Equitorial Guinea….
The government has mismanaged an inherited “rock star economy” to such an extent they are broke. There is a level of violent crime in our communities the likes of which we have never really known, and the political process has sought to corrupt NZ society in ways unimaginable even six years ago…..

If ever there was one of those quintessential elections/Seminole moments, at which New Zealanders will be given an opportunity to continue on a path of chaos by voting for (w
Labour/Greens/TPM/NZ First or New Zealanders can vote for real change and to get New Back on Track by voting for a National led National/Act government!
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September 1, 2023 8:42am
Brian McDonald

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
The most interesting thing about the election so far has been Luxon’s decision to contest Epsom. Perhaps it was Act’s activity in St Heliers that could have been the step too far. Taking into account that National Epsom voters were “asked” to vote for the Act representative and party vote National I guess we’ll get to see the real party faithful vote this time. But I do wonder about the machinations behind this and if there was any prior concern about some of the Act candidates who have since been outed recently. I can’t remember his name but the man disowning his online comments and support of the Parliamentary protest squirmed very well under the reporters’ questions but I doubt anyone believed him. If old Rob was about he would have had a few choice things to say about Act recruiting at the Parliament protests and that it was no wonder Seymour didn’t know how many houses he owned.
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September 1, 2023 8:43am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Do you blame him? I mean if ACT get 12% they don’t need a free ride, he did say a month ago that he will not be doing any deals with any parties, it is possible they have poll that electorate and asked them if Nats stood a candidate to win that the poll shows it much closer, ACT do not need a hand out any more
  
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  September 1, 2023 8:59am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    No, I don’t blame him at all. He stepped from the”greyness” and asserted himself and the Nats in a common sense way. Act needed to grow a pair finally anyway.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:16am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Greyness of MMP you mean, that’s what created it, like it did when Labour did the very same in Coromandel with Fitzsimmons
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:38pm
- Simon
  
  lol – its Brian. What you should wonder about is how you are always wrong about everything. Brian thought Ardern had saved the economy, defeated covid and the jaxx was 95% effective in stopping the virus.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:00am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Lol, its “Simon” without telling me what I think.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:13am
- RightNow
  
  Now I’m thinking of voting for ACT
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:01am
- Grunter
  
  Why wouldn’t National compete in Epsom? It’s called democracy Brian. ACT have been over 10% for some time now so no more “cup of tea time” required.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:07am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    I’m criticising it Grunter, the first bit of life seen in the Nats about its own independence. Act got too comfortable wagging the dog, now it has to be in the schoolyard without mummy.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:19am
    - rouppe
      
      Wagging the dog?
      
      Would you like to provide an example?
      
      Something akin to the PGF that Shane Jones sprayed around indiscriminately for no discernable benefit to the provinces.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:57pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Exactly, it’s time for them to stand on their own two feet, snd if he keeps suggesting Bats are just Labour then he should be reminded what might or might not happen if the party support wanes of time
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:42pm
- thirteenstars
  
  “If old Rob was about…”
  
  Oh, dear. It was “Old Rob” that put NZ in the same parlous economic and social condition that the current government has put us in.
  
  And likewise, the solution will need to come from the new guard. In 1984 it was Labour. In 2024 it’ll be ACT. Then maybe the Nats will grow some balls and do what needs to be done.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:39am
  - Taieri
    
    It was “Old Rob” that put NZ in the same parlous economic and social condition that the current government has put us in.
    —————
    
    At least Muldoon left quite a good infrastructure. The current lot will have left the names nobody can pronounce let alone understand.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:04pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      And Labour dons said infrastructure
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:45pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The only way ACT will get more than their share is fit on the cross benches, and he is threatening it, no wonder he is peeling off support to the vulgar Peters
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:44pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      Goodness, Nat stalwarts get so exercised about all those votes ACT has “stolen” from National, who apparently deserve those votes by right.
      
      National have not made any moves in the last several decades to reverse any of the political trends which have lately become obvious in the harm they are doing this country. Indeed they’ve often been compliant in our slow decline, well-deserving of the epithet, Labour Lite.
      
      ACT are the much needed antidote to the Centre-Leftism of National.
      
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      September 1, 2023 3:48pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        When are you Actoids going to stop with this rubbish that National need Act to stop the slide backwards of the past 3 decades.
        
        What crap. Act were part of the government’s 2008 to 2017. What did we get SuperCity implemented by Rodney Hide, 3 Strikes and Charter Schools. Did they throw the toys out and stop Whanau Ora, no! Did they do anything else?
        
        You guys need to stop with the B/s and act as though you want to be part of a team that wants to be in government. Because you guys carry on like you are and you will be down the “political” drain just as in 2011, faster than you can say 3 Strikes (which National will implement, with or without Act.
        
        MMP is team politics, if you don’t get that, opposition beckons a divided team!
        
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        September 1, 2023 10:53pm
      - Ghost
        
        hullkiwi, think you’ll find these are the same people who were vote Winston to keep national honest, then vote labour to keep the greens out, now their rally cry has turned to act
        
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        September 1, 2023 11:37pm
- cmm
  
  Always good to see the perspective from the other side of the fence – a place that 95%+ of citizens can’t comprehend.
  
  You are correct that it is interesting. Interesting that Act is getting enough traction to become a pretty mainstream party. Long may it continue!
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:28pm
goNZ1

Bloggers may have seen yesterday during the last Q-time session Labour decided to let the Minister of Police do a comedy act to try to score points on Mark Mitchell. Absoludely cringe-worthy and a disgrace plus an insult to victims at a time when violent crime is out of control. I wouldnt be surprised if the Nats make a campaign ad of the footage so the voting public can see why this govt has to go…
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September 1, 2023 8:45am
- ClanMcleod
  
  About as disgustingly childish as one would expect from anyone in this current government.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:36am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    I don’t want to see this government lose the election I want to see them crushed in such a manner that they never recover as a viable political entity. I want the people to send a message to those on the far left that their radical policies are not welcome in New Zealand. They have ruined the country I chose to live in and brought my wife and two babies to. Now my grown children want to leave, none of us feel welcome anymore as we mourn the once dynamic country I looked forward to watching my grandchildren grow up in. I despise this mob of grifters.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:14am
    - rouppe
      
      Good luck.
      
      A substantial proportion of the voters seem to still back them. It is what it is.
      
      You would need to see overt corruption, and while Mahuta family contracts are getting there, there isn’t anything endemic that would trigger universal disgust.
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:01pm
    - Bobba Fret
      
      I agree with you, but unfortunately, there are now too many beneficiaries that rely on this governments handouts to live rather than getting a job. They will continue to vote for them as under a National government, they know things would not be as easy.
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:25pm
- Biscuit
  
  goNZ1, I saw on last night’s News that Labour Party Members of Parliament were ‘alarmed’ that Parliamentary Security was so lax that protesters were able to bring in banner(s) espousing their cause.
  
  I see no such ‘alarm’ from the dear wee out-of-touch-with-reality souls that the public they supposedly serve are being let down massively by Ministers who do sweet stuff all about gangland shootings in downtown Auckland, ram raids every which where – and crime stats that are through the roof.
  
  Just so long as they are safe in Parliament, eh?
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:46am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    that protest was so staged – Greenpeace doing the Grenn Partys dirty work… again
    
    Don’t give money to Greenpeace – you’re funding a communist entity in all but name, led by one avowed communist in Mr Norman (well he was in his youth in Australia and one wonders if he has just got good at making sure it doesn’t stick out to much)
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:07am
    - kowtow
      
      There’s a photo of the protest , clearly taken from the floor ( presumably by an MP) on Greenpeace’s x or twitter account .
      
      How’d they get dat .
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:55pm
- Paulus
  
  But read about Mitchell’s replies – a classic totally demolishing and refuting the so called Minister of Police.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:47am
  - cmm
    
    Unfortunately that isn’t what made the news and soundbites.
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:29pm
    - Local Miller
      
      Mitchell’s reply made Mike Hosking’s show this morning, it was great.
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:22pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Did they not try that and weee forced to shut it down at a previous post?
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Is this the best Labour could find for the Minister of Police?

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20230831_20230831_08/tab/video?page=3&mode=form

I’m sure if I’d been a recent victim of a crime, I wouldn’t be laughing along with this Minister who seems to think her job is just one big piss-take.
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September 1, 2023 8:55am
- rouppe
  
  What Ginny Anderson did was evidence that she had no substantive answer to the questions put.
  
  That is the message the new Zealand public should take from her answers
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:14am
  - kowtow
    
    The way MP’s treat questions is an affront to democracy .
    
    Pity they spend so much time blithering on about the non existent tow principles .
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:37am
- nathie
  
  This clip?
  https://ondemand.parliament.nz/parliament-tv-on-demand/?itemId=236774
  
  If so Ginny Anderson, pardon my French, is an absolute F*ing disgrace.
  
  Not only did she belittle the two (patsy) questions she was asked in the most appalling way and by not even answering them, she is totally ignorant of the Speaker’s directives (and process – Speaker Adrian Ruawhe even had to tell her to sit down when he is speaking – she then whimpered like a SLG …. OMG another SLG).
  
  Mark Mitchell’s answer was a masterclass in sticking to the facts and scolding her.
  
  Should have been headline TV news showing Ginny Anderson’s disgraceful mocking conduct against the ever increasing victims of crime.
  
  And despite all that, Ginny Anderson continued to mock Mark Mitchell.
  
  Well folks that’s the nasty Labour party MP’s for you.
  
  Can I suggest everyone take the time to watch the above clip – it is worth it! It just reinforces how much Labour is out of touch with everyday ordinary NZ’ers.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:23am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Amateur hour in parliament.
    Look out for Ms Andersen as the next Labour Party leader.
    Yes, they are that stupid.
    Although even Ms Ardern looked more intelligent and sincere than that.
    Does Mr Peters have the hots for Ginny?
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:03am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      She will be lucky to get back, she will lose Hutt South. She will be squeaking about the list
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:50pm
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Question time has become a joke and a waste of time. After Mitchell read out the stats of crime Ginny still didn’t answer, instead resorting to saying that his performance was a joke.
    Speaker should have made her re-answer.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:22pm
- Opie
  
  What the actual was that performance from Anderson?
  
  They receive over 200k a year of our money to laugh about the state of the country.
  
  Imagine disrespecting your role like that in a private company…
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:35am
- Drone
  
  MW it’s the last day of term, of course there are going to be jolly japes from the Labour party many of them won’t be back next term.. //
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:07am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Robertson had the look of resignation on his face, we may well never see him in parliament again
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:54pm
- Scooter
  
  She will go into witless protection soon, like all the other under performing ministers. Hipkins will soon be the sole last standing dead man walking into the election.
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:13pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    You know what? I think Labour and Hipkins think she is doing great
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:55pm
- cmm
  
  Parliamentary time costs us around $1M an hour.
  This is our time. If they have fuck-all useful to say then shut up and sit down.
  If you want to have high-jinx then go to the Backbenchers. On your own time and on your own dollar!
  Bastards the lot of them!
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:31pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Adrian Rurawhe should be the speaker in the next government, even if NACT, as he is the best & balanced person in that role: calls out his own party members when they need it, pulls back people professionally, but doesn’t seem to have an anger or bad attitude issue (he is not a bully with it).
  
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  September 1, 2023 2:57pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Is he running? I thought he was retiring.
    
    Anyway, Gerry will have a lock on that job.
    
    But I agree with your substantive point; compared to every other Labour appointee. Adrian has done a reasonable job.
    
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    September 1, 2023 6:37pm
Benedict Yu

“The most interesting thing about the election so far has been Luxon’s decision to contest Epsom.”

Chris Luxon is the MP for Botany. So no he is not contesting Epsom.

The National candidate for Epsom is Paul Goldsmith. IMO he will come a distant third. Maybe he will improve on his 2020 vote of 15 percent. Doesn’t matter much.

EDIT That was intended as a reply to Brian McDonald.
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September 1, 2023 8:57am
- MCōs
  
  Paul Goldsmith is a four term list MP and as long as he’s the fall guy for David Seymour in the Epsom electorate National are obliged to make sure the status quo remains.
  In return he doesn’t rock the boat in Epsom.
  
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  September 1, 2023 6:23pm
David Garrett

Suddenly an awful stink pervades the GD…
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September 1, 2023 8:58am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  David, sorry, but at present ACT do not need a deal to get to parliament, and the threats Seymour is making means his arrogance suggests he doesn’t deserve it
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:00am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    You are totally misunderstanding the comment from David Garrett.
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:49am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, I have noticed where he was answering too now
      
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      September 1, 2023 1:58pm
- hullkiwi
  
  David, expect more of it. Our opposites over on the other Blog site are in a state of dispondency, much like National 3 years ago.
  
  Some of their number are hoping for Labour to get properly turnover at the election, so the party can rebuild in a form that represents a true/pure socialist philosophy blahddy, blah, blah….
  
  So, expect more of the Brian’s of this world to appear on these pages in the coming weeks…..
  
  Labour stated at the beginning of the year that this year’s election will be dirty….what they didn’t say was that it will be them and their accolades throwing the dirt….
  
  Everybody rise above it, it is not woke to ignore the liars and the dirt throwers. They will be seen for what they are…the liars and f**kwits they are….
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:52am
RightNow

Fares on the bus are back up to full price today. Incredibly bad timing for Labour
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September 1, 2023 8:59am
BeaB

Just vote National. They certainly don’t need a ‘hand brake’ when so much needs to be done. Nor do they need a slim majority, for the same reason.
Winston First should never be allowed back into Parliament.
David Seymour should be in charge of disbanding useless government departments so we can see if he can actually do what he claims he can.
Then we need a period of austerity with no expenditure at all except on the absolute necessities.
If the country sees this happening – schools doing their job, hospitals operating smoothly, the streets safe again – they will grit their teeth and tighten their belts and vote for National again.
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September 1, 2023 9:00am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “Then we need a period of austerity with no expenditure at all except on the absolute necessities.”
  
  Depending on what you mean by “absolute necessities”, that would require making about 20,000 public servants redundant. Minimum. As Wayne Mapp has pointed out many times, a National Government will simply not do that.
  
  I guarantee this will happen – when National Ministers have their own portfolios, they will become advocates for their Ministries. I promise you that if there is a National Education Minister, in the lead up to the 2024 Budget, that Minister will be advocating an increase in spending on Education and an expansion of the Ministry of Education.
  
  How do you think the Ministry of Education became a monstrosity? It was not just the current Government. Firstly there was Hekia Parata. Then there was Nicki Kaye. Both fighting tooth and nail for more spending and more centralised education programmes.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:21am
- Paulus
  
  Seymour will be lucky to get a Cabinet place as he has been rather silly recently in some of his comments.
  I am waiting for him to grow up !
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:56am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Give me a break. Of course he will be a senior Minister in the Cabinet.
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:11am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      At what? He has had chances before snd turned them down, he should have taken them
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:01pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        You are deluded. He will be a reforming senior minister. Give up your National philia 😅
        
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        September 1, 2023 7:50pm
  - rouppe
    
    Logic would suggest that if National require Act for a majority in government, and Act got say 15% of the vote, and National say 35%, you’d expect Act to have some 30% of ministers.
    
    Unlikely to be that, but there will be some. In fact, if Act wanted to do what they say, for example disestablish the Ministry of Pacific People’s (or any of the others they mentioned) they should go for Minister of those portfolios and immediately shut them down.
    
    What I would do is work with another ministry (eg Internal Affairs), have them ditch their contractor base and replace them with staff from my Ministry. You could provide a say $10,000 transfer bonus. Do that until its a husk and make the rest redundant.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:14pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Min of pacific people could easily be gobbled up in another ministry without the bloated cost
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:14pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      How about setting up a Mega Ministry of the Pointless? Fold in the usual suspects, consolidate the back office functions then starve them of funding.
      
      Pour encouragee les autres
      
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      September 1, 2023 6:41pm
Opie

Who is Thomas Cranmer?

Excerpt taken from business desk…

A blogger, media critic and independent news hound writing under the pseudonym ‘Thomas Cranmer’ has gone mainstream in recent months with a series of headline-grabbing political articles. Now his true identity can be revealed.Philip Crump, a former Russell McVeagh lawyer who has spent most of his career in London, is the writer behind the popular conservative blog ‘Cranmer’s Substack’

Thank you Philip for single handedly doing the work of the media to expose government waste, nepotism and corruption.

I wasn’t sure if he would ever out himself and I guess we will see if it was the right decision but the work has been done.
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September 1, 2023 9:01am
Maggie Pie

Really disappointed to hear that [Mod – let’s not resort to name calling] revert to such disrespectful ‘name-calling’ of Nicola Willis during Question Time.
Although must say Nicola handled it very well considering.
If it had been me, I’d have retaliated with something that would probably have seen Mr Speaker eject me from the chamber.

But had to larf. Later in the day, Nicola was interviewed about it on ZB by HDPA.
When Heather asked her if she had a ‘nick-name’ at school, Nicola replied…”Yes, they called me Nickers Willy”

LOL!!
I guessed immediately she must have gone to a Private Girls School.
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September 1, 2023 9:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s as if Labour folk are stuck in a 3rd-form rut.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:19am
  - nathie
    
    Despite “Headmaster” Mallard leaving, Labour MP’s still seem to be behaving like SLG’s and SLB’s.
    
    (We can thank Mallard for introducing those terms to Parliament’s debating chamber)!
    
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    September 1, 2023 9:30am
- 3-coil
  
  Yes Maggie – which grates with me, after I had a Kiwiblog comment removed after I called him [Mod – just because labour play in the mud doesn’t mean we do]! Pretty tame I thought, but Kiwiblog moderators thought otherwise.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:23am
  - RoboRob
    
    ‘just because labour play in the mud doesn’t mean we do’
    
    This is the issue that the right is facing around the world. We tend to have morals and ethics, whereas the left tends to work on ‘the outcome is more important then the process’.
    
    A couple of examples
    
    The key government had strict boundaries between ministers and government departments. NZF and Labour were more then keen to ignore that separation and interface directly. They even promised they would when electioneering.
    
    In the US Barrak Obama sent the IRS after his political opponents.
    
    In NZ the left is happy to bribe and pay off state media to push its agendas.
    
    In the US we see charges laid against an ex president. Whatever you think about Trumps crimes he is absolutely NOT the first president to have committed crimes. The rule had been ‘dont use the power of government against your political opponents’, the left no longer care and have opened the flood gates. They will be climbing up the walls when future left wing presidents are also charged.
    
    The left are happy to name call opponents, even in the ‘sacred’ halls of power. Yet on this site we (generally) choose the high road and attack the policy not the person.
    
    Unfortunately the rights ‘ethics and morals’ work against it in the competition for governance and outcomes.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:03am
    - waikatosinger
      
      Being ethical is always the best long term strategy even if it hurts you in the short term.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:01pm
ClanMcleod

Regarding the Pfizer/EU Contract, but there can be little doubt that the NZ contract was basically a carbon copy.

Interesting article in the Daily Sceptic today reveals that in April 2021 the Pfizer EU contract contained the statement:

“The Participating Member State further acknowledges that the long-term effect and efficacy of the Vaccine are not curently known and that there may be adverse effects of the Vaccine that are not currently known”.

https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/the-scandal-of-the-eupfizer-contract

Along with this, the manufacturers were given comprehensive indemnity from prosecution.

Also ‘Emergency Use Authorisation’ could only be granted if there were no alternative treatment options. Hence the lies about, and attacks on, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.

Would there have been such a high participation in this experiment if everyone was made fully aware of this information, as they should have been? Why was this information not clearly explained to the public? Isn’t that the definition of “informed consent”?
More importantly, why would the government sign up to such a contract? Bizarre doesn’t begin to describe it.

The article shows that this paragraph (along with other incriminating material) has now been redacted in the version posted by the European Commission. The fact that such clauses were ever in the contract and that the EU is now trying to cover them up is, of course, a very important story.

As predicted, bit by bit, the truth is slowly emerging. But in NZ? Shhh, don’t mention the ‘C’ word!
Bizarre indeed.
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September 1, 2023 9:20am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Just to add to that post, it’s clear proof (not that it was needed) that Ardern, Hipkins and every other person who uttered the words “safe and effective” is a liar and should be on criminal charges.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:41am
  - kevn
    
    Clan… Yes, those issues were known back in late 2020.
    
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    September 1, 2023 10:03am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      kevn, indeed, I saw a copy of the Albanian contract in 2021. The truth can only be suppressed for so long. Then it remains to be seen if those responsible are brought to justice.
      
      It is no wonder so many politicians don’t want to talk about it, they are all complicit to some extent. Either through malicious intent, or laziness and negligence. I don’t know which is worse.
      
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      September 1, 2023 10:57am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      kevn – I think the key point of the article is they are making it more accessible now, but with all the incriminating stuff heavily redacted.
      
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      September 1, 2023 3:37pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Why was this information not clearly explained to the public? Isn’t that the definition of “informed consent”?
  More importantly, why would the government sign up to such a contract? Bizarre doesn’t begin to describe it.”
  
  I know of someone who was quite happy with whatever the Pfizer Contract said.
  Probably did not even read and comprehend it. But thankyou very much anyway.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:53am
  - Observer of Life
    
    If ACT/Nats form the next government, surely the answer will be to open up the Pfizer contract for all to see and then go full tit on, we were all lied to by the last government. … no way should this have been pushed as “safe and effective” etc. Be open and transparent – job done!
    
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    September 1, 2023 5:14pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  In response to the new COVID variant, the UK is bringing forward its Winter booster campaign.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/30/uk-health-officials-bring-forward-autumn-flu-and-covid-vaccinations
  
  The USA is doing the same. Pushing a new round of boosters for everyone older than 6 months old.
  
  “For children as young as 2 years old, draft CDC vaccine recommendations presented in June would allow for a single new shot from either Pfizer or Moderna in order to be up to date. Children down to 6 months still might be recommended to get two or three doses.”
  
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-booster-xbb-variants-september-2023/
  
  Three shots of the vaccine for 6 month year old infants. Good luck with the take up on those.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:51am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Anyone who is still falling for this deserves whatever comes their way. It’s no longer viable for people to say they don’t know about the issues.
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:56am
    - waikatosinger
      
      There are many people who get all their info from the MSM. Those people may indeed not know about the issues.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:05pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        I hear you, but anyone who didn’t at least question the narrative, particularly after the Wellington protest, really needs to look in the mirror. The questions are screaming to be answered.
        
        It was Jason Bassler who said:
        
        “Remember, if all the headlines are identical it’s not news, it’s advertising.”
        
        When a politician tells you the government will be “your single source of truth” you need to be very worried.
        
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        September 1, 2023 1:06pm
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Yeah, Not happening. Government can fuck right off with that.
    
    They are stupid enough to try, then they will act all surprised when all other vaccination rates tank because significant portions of the community have lost confidence and trust in anything government tells us.
    
    Perhaps its time to retire the “podium of truth” for good, and have a round of apologies and fresh air.
    
    Certain individuals should never be seen in public again.
    
    It would be hard to prosecute Bloomfield and pink haired lunatic lady for what I hope was stupidity, rather than corruption.
    
    But we can certainly commit to develop and follow a robust scientifically based pandemic strategy in future – much like the one that NZ chose to ignore, but Sweden managed to implement.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:11pm
- virtualmark
  
  Clan, did you get the Covid vaccine?
  
  (I’m assuming not … but just checking)
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:10pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    virtualmark – no, not a chance, and just to clarify, myself, my wife and the kids had all previous scheduled vaccinations going back over 60 years.
    
    My wife used to work for a marketing company who did a lot of stuff for pharmaceutical companies. Her comments when the jab was first mentioned were what rang alarm bells for me. That the average length of time from the initial proposition to being approved for market was, on average, around ten years for all previous vaccines.
    
    I understood the concept that was sold to the public of all of the usual processes being done concurrently as opposed to successively, it made sense. Except for the part about potential long term negative side effects. That wasn’t possible to do at ‘warp speed’.
    
    I knew the thalidomide story as most of us did. So I was wary and started to look more deeply into the subject. Next most concerning aspect was finding out that mRNA technology has been trying to get products approved for market and failed dismally for over 20 years.
    
    Long story short, I learned so much about the whole corrupted Pharma industry to the point that I now question everything that the local medical centre attempts to shove into us. In fact, I haven’t been into the medical centre for over 2 and a half years. Ever since they imposed masking requirements. Something which I have never complied with and never will.
    
    I will only be going back to them in event of a serious trauma involving heavy bleeding or broken limbs or incapacitated on a stretcher.
    I have completely lost trust in the medical services which is a tragedy.
    
    Apologies for the length of the response, but I feel it’s only fair to at least explain why I am so ‘anti’ the whole covid narrative.
    
    Trust me, I preferred my old life when I was ignorant of the levels of dishonesty and the dangers of the medical industrial complex, no going back now though!
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:01pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Well said clan, I am the same.
      I needed antibiotics for a badly infected cut but I was more worried that they would give me the jab so I didn’t go. It took a month to beat the infection but it was worth it.
      I feel for all those who took the jab and understand the pressure they were under.
      Fully vaxxed otherwise.
      
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      September 1, 2023 5:38pm
- cmm
  
  The big deal is not that the effects were unknown.
  
  The really big deal is that they were, likely, known (or at least anticipated), and hidden.
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:36pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Yes, we know for a fact that the government were warned of the dangers of heart damage, particularly for young males. But they deliberately hid that information.
    
    Despicable actions taken for political expediency. Ardern wanted to be the ‘best’ jabber in the world. She treated the whole thing as a PR exercise to promote herself. Nothing she did was for the benefit of the people of NZ.
    
    The worst PM and biggest narcissist ever. Despise isn’t a strong enough word for how I feel about that human wrecking ball.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:11pm
  - virtualmark
    
    The risk of myocarditis was known and was disclosed.
    
    But the rational adults all agreed that risk of deaths from myocarditis *caused by the vaccine* was at least an order of magnitude lower than the risk of myocarditis *caused by the virus*.
    
    That’s a real-life trolley problem. Sometimes grown-ups have to accept there’s not a perfect unicorn solution and instead choose the least bad option
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:43pm
    - kevn
      
      virtual… Indeed, that issue was known in NZ late 2020. The gonged ones buried it,
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:19pm
    - cmm
      
      The rational adults could not make any rational decisions because the information required to make such decisions was suppressed.
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:19pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      virtualmark – it was known to those paying attention, it was also known by the medical advisors in NZ who told Ardern and co about this, but it WAS suppressed, as clearly shown in these two Thomas Cranmer posts.
      
      …..there is clear evidence in the official documents that it was agreed that references to increasing dosing intervals as a method of potentially providing some protection against myocarditis should be removed from public communications.
      
      The articles are paywalled, but you can get a free 7 day trial if you’d like to tell me which parts are wrong and why.
      
      https://cranmer.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-kiwi-kids-part-1
      
      https://cranmer.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-kiwi-kids-part-2
      
      As for those claims of myocarditis from the virus being more dangerous than from the vaccine, not true.
      Unless you’re referring to those who got multiple shots and STILL got covid multiple times? Now that really could be an issue. Glad I don’t have that to worry about. I’m sure you’re fully up to date with your boosters though. Happy for you.
      
      Rather than referring to your mythical ‘rational adults’, how about you supply something that resembles evidence?
      
      There was no ‘perfect unicorn solution’. We had a new coronavirus, probably man made, but that’s a total side issue.
      We had a respiratory virus that was dangerous to a very small number in society. The actual IFR was around 0.8% No worse than many other seasonal respiratory infections which strike us regularly. It wasn’t ‘special’ other than the fact it originated in a lab.
      
      The ‘least bad ‘option was to follow the tried and trusted ‘Pandemic Preparedness Plan’ which was dumped just prior to the insanity. It said nothing about lockdowns or masks. Nobody has yet explained why it was dumped.
      
      The other ‘least bad option’ was to listen to genuine experts who warned that attempting to vaccinate your way out of a pandemic is one of the stupidest ideas you could try. It drives vaccine escape, it forces the vaccine to evolve. It has great names like ‘Original Antigenic Sin’. Look it up. It’s a thing.
      
      It’s a well known tenet in medical circles. Trying to vaccinate your way out is not a good idea. Especially with something that isn’t even a vaccine.
      Apparently this was unknown to the shills and useful idiots in NZ masquerading as ‘experts’. Notice how quiet they’ve all been for the last few months? Because they are totally discredited and if they attempt anything remotely like the nonsensical narrative they pushed during covid, they will be fully exposed as the charlatans and liars they are.
      
      No, they’re all keeping their heads down and trying not to bring attention to themselves. So they should. The damage they are responsible for enabling is monstrous.
      
      Nice attempted ambush btw, but a dismal fail. Must try harder.
      
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      September 1, 2023 3:16pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Clan,
        
        You have every right to have the vaccine or not. I really don’t care what you choose.
        
        And you have every right to your own beliefs and to freely speak those.
        
        Others have every right to consider you misguided (politely),
        
        [Mod – debate without the personal jabs]
        
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        September 1, 2023 5:39pm
Clyde

An interesting interview with Hosking and Lockwood Smith on radio this morning. Smith was in hindsight a very good Speaker of the House, and there were two excellent points he made. Firstly, that speakers are no longer insisting on a Minister answering a question – they get away from not answering by a judgement that they have “addressed the question”. Secondly, MP’s on a list have no connection with any electorate. In other words MMP is not working. And a great example of that is the current Liemore Pardy who were in effect a FPP Government. Riddled with immature zealots with NO connection whatsoever to “their” communities. The only thing they have to be responsible to is to their ideological masters. I’d be favour now of ditching MMP.
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September 1, 2023 9:26am
- RoboRob
  
  The crazy lefty host on Newstalk ZB in Christchurch is criticising Lockwood for his views. He and some callers I heard are all for more diversity in parliament. Experience is apparently not required.
  
  You can’t make this shit up. We have just had 6yrs or diversity without experience and most now agree probably the worse government in NZ history. Do these thickos never learn.
  
  Quality over ‘attributes’ please.
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:51am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “I’d be favour now of ditching MMP”
  
  We had that chance in 2011.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_New_Zealand_voting_system_referendum
  
  58 percent voted to keep MMP. IIRC John Key chose to remain neutral.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:56am
  - septic skeptic
    
    JK was basically a placeholder between Clarke and Ardern. Efficient enough as a manager but didn’t have the inclination or the guts to make meaningful changes to Labour’s agenda.
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:03pm
Maggie Pie

And see Mt Roskill’s back in the news again. Another homocide.

Just saying.
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September 1, 2023 9:29am
- Frank the tank
  
  Will the large subcontinent contingent of the electorate continue to vote for Wood?
  
  Those inner West electorates will be an interesting watch – my guess is a couple swing to National. Imagine if we got rid of Mike Wood for good……
  
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  September 1, 2023 9:41am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The hoi polloi who have been looking at those very seats suggest one is definitely going to Nats, snd one is close, not sure how they know, but they will have been polled,
    
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    September 1, 2023 2:24pm
BananaLlama

ruIn it for you
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September 1, 2023 9:35am
goNZ1

next poll will be interesting – cant be one far away?
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September 1, 2023 9:43am
RoboRob

Listened to a ‘woman’ from the Rugby NZ board on the AM show this morning with relation to ‘fixing the dysfunctional governance in RNZ.

She started talking and was soon dropping all the progressive buzzwords; inclusiveness, diverse, caring etc. Uh oh I thought. Then she talked about how just selecting a person to fill a slot when a board seat came up didn’t work because it meant a Maori and a Woman might be fighting for a single position, when obviously we needed a Maori AND a Woman.
Later in the interview she was asked if the board had more woman would there no longer be a need for the woman’s rugby council (or whatever its called). I shit you not, her response was : No we would still need it because a female board member couldn’t represent the view of all woman and so the council was required.

Ladies and gentlemen I give you the reason the NZ rugby board (and so many other organisations) are dysfunctional.
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September 1, 2023 9:47am
- thirteenstars
  
  Yep. It’s the “long march through the culture” and it’s tailored to each context.
  
  In NZ culture a prime target for neo-Marxist ideology is men’s sports. The unwarranted attention given to women’s rugby and cricket by media is the most obvious sign, but also the feminisation of sports administration, with the resulting disfunction.
  
  NZ rugby is a very male culture, which cannot be allowed to stand in the new world of diversity, equity and inclusion. It has to be torn down and replaced. So you artificially elevate women’s rugby to the same status as the men’s game and you then have an excuse to put women into power over what what is a culturally male game.
  
  If NZ performs well in the World Cup–sorry, the Men’s World Cup–it’ll be the last time for a long time.
  
  Thanks for the memories, rugby. It was great while it lasted.
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:58am
  - kowtow
    
    Interesting thoughts.
    
    I believe ,in the west , the first targets were men’s domains .
    
    The pub .
    
    Smoking and drinking in a comradely atmosphere .
    
    Think about it.
    
    The attacks continue .
    
    Now it’s car ownership . Again a male dominated activity.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:19pm
  - Burtland
    
    Traditional mens sport is being deconstructed by lbgt minister robertson – dame patsy is his rugby torjan horse with gongs.
    
    When the sport wants government funding – diversity of management is the tradeoff.
    
    neomarxisn 101
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:27pm
- cmm
  
  Do you think they might be pulling a “Bud Light” on rugby in NZ?
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:37pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Yes, everyone selected to tick woke or diversity boxes, and the only thing they have forgotten about is the need to support rugby.
  
  Wonder how long before Silverlake force the All Blacks to be based in the States!
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:16pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Robertson threatened them over diversity with their grass roots funding, that dictator said make the board more diverse or lose your grant, excuse the pun
  
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  September 1, 2023 2:28pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  It’s the same in so many institutions RoboRob. The panels set up to evaluate the research outputs of our universities all have a Maaori co-chair, except for the “Maatauranga Maaori” panel which is 100% Maaori.
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:48pm
Ghost

That’s great, but no doubt the hard work from the police will result in the courts giving them a gift voucher for their crimes

A new specialist police squad is targeting the worst retail thieves – and has prosecuted more than 50 in three weeks.

The Retail Crime Unit is zeroing in on the most prolific retail crime offenders in the Western Bay of Plenty. It has already laid more than 400 charges and resulted in offenders going to prison.

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September 1, 2023 9:51am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  well that’s 50 more cultural safety reports and Home D sentences coming right up. Might be time to invest in tinfoil manufacturers!
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:26pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Good to see National’s useless tax plan has been shredded to piece by Labour and other economists. Luxury Luxon and Nice Nicola had once change to get it right and they blew it. Next set of polls will show National nose diving.
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September 1, 2023 9:54am
- Colville
  
  Oh I can’t wait to see the next poll 😎
  
  BTW.. That is a “the future is so bright I gotta wear shades” emoji
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:43am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Are you going to drop a large bet on Labour at $4.75?
  
  https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/new-zealand-politics/next-new-zealand-general-election-6227335
  
  No? I thought not.
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:24pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Yes Mr Yu, once I get my $4.75 weekly GST off fruits and veges benefit from Labour.
    
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    September 1, 2023 2:29pm
- Yabster
  
  fuck your comments are dribble mate – thats in general- but the one above is more full of shit than usual- well done.
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:41pm
- Guy Preston
  
  Have 11 people not worked out what satire is?
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:56pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    20 now. I’m over his satire.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:36pm
  - Ghost
    
    No, all those people have worked out he’s not funny, tired old and lame, yes.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:44pm
    - Guy Preston
      
      Fair enough. I’d call it commitment to the character!
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:11pm
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      I will be interacting with you on election night Ghost who walks. You will see on that night who is funny, tired old and lame. Never under estimate the power of Labour to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Wait for a massive bribe announcement from Labour during their cmpaign launch this weekend.
      
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      September 1, 2023 2:31pm
      - Ghost
        
        You mean like you did with the Hamilton West by-election where you were still rabbiting on about how labour were going to win it
        
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        September 1, 2023 2:34pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  No it has not, those idiots haven’t got a clue, legal advice and ministerial advice said so, Parker is full of shit, we went through the same thing with foreign buyers ban, the very same piece of paper Parker was showing was used to say foreigners could not be locked out of housing here was thrown at them, snd they banned them anyway, so stop talking crap, the very same jurisdictions Singapore and Australia were not banned, China is already banned, so if they want to buy they pay the tax
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:22pm
graham

Oh dear, poor RNZ … my heart bleeds.

Turns out that being funded entirely by taxpayers and receiving a huge $25.7 million increase to its annual budget still isn’t enough to beat Mike Hosking. Lefties everywhere will be sobbing into their soy lattes.

According to the latest ratings, RNZ’s total radio audience is at its lowest number in more than three and a half years. Newstalk ZB claims the top spot with 677,643 listeners while RNZ is ranked fifth with 532,351.

And apparently, the main culprit is RNZ’s Morning Report.

RNZ is trying to slur their opponent by claiming that audiences are weary after three years of “… the serious in-depth news we often specialise in“. Yeah right.

Meanwhile Shayne Currie actually hits the nail bang on the head when he writes that it’s more likely due to perception of content. He states that “RNZ enjoys and promotes itself as New Zealand’s most-trusted media organisation“, but is sometimes seen as being too woke, too left-wing, and not putting enough pressure on the Labour Government, while Newstalk ZB’s Mike Hosking is “frequently perceived as being the only broadcaster or journalist asking hard questions of the Government, as evidenced by his weekly interview with Prime Minister Chris Hipkins”.

Got it in one, Mr Currie. Even if he does hastily follow up by saying of course, that’s not true, but just how “some people” see it.

Article is paywalled, but in case you’re interested.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider-rnz-ratings-take-a-dive/OSPQGZVMBNHGLE4ABJH7Y5SCTI/
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September 1, 2023 9:58am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Who knew there were 532,000 current and retired school teachers still out there! Radio PPTA is certainly catering to its core demographic.
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:28pm
- Matt Long
  
  “That’s not true,” Mr Currie has joined the ranks of unreliable “fact checkers.”
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:29pm
Maggie Pie

Just HOW bad does it have to get b4 KO take action?

The Horrid reports from Christchurch, that a Kaianga Ora resident and his fudge packing friend, are seen by school-kids engaging in what has been described as….. “depraved and hideous sex” in their BACKYARD!

Neighbours who reported this depravity, are told by KO nothing can be done about it because it’s taking place on ‘private property’

Words fail me!

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1697332274931364195
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September 1, 2023 10:03am
- Ghost
  
  Does anyone else get on herald articles about crimes, or like this one videos of luxon at the top of the article
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:09am
- Zoro
  
  What’s the problem? It’s just Gay love…
  
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  September 1, 2023 10:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  In this case I agree with KO.
  
  Firstly, the neighbour is suggesting that two men having sex is “depraved and hideous”. If the KO resident was having sex with a woman in his back yard would that have been OK? Or would that have also been “depraved and hideous”.?
  
  Secondly, KO are not the police. The police judged that no offence had been committed.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-kainga-ora-resident-has-sex-in-full-view-of-high-schoolers-neighbour-decries-hideous-behaviour/TGIBVGL5FRB4HPGCH7OKRBDDDY/?utm_campaign=nzh_tw&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=nzh_tw#Echobox=1693509224-1
  
  KO cannot just evict someone. They need to apply to the Tenancy Tribunal. If they had tried, the Tribunal would have thrown out the case in favour of the tenant in 30 seconds.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:08am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Public sex acts are depraved and hideous irrespective of who or what is involved. Particularly in the view of high school students.
    
    Nothing to do with them being gay.
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:29am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “Particularly in the view of high school students.”
      
      The facts in the Herald story are not accurate.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:26pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Well, there’s a surprise. 🙄
        
        The mainstream media truly is despicable.
        
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        September 1, 2023 1:13pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Were you ever a student of the Fo Guang Uni, Bene?
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:42am
  - artemisia
    
    Agree, BY, legal, private property, consenting adults and all that.
    
    Could have been two women, would that be OK?
    
    Don’t like, it, don’t look.
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:22pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I understand that the teenagers involved went very much out of their way to “look”.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:28pm
- Scooter
  
  It’s all okay in Labour Land Maggie, this is just the practical lesson in warping children’s minds. From teaching kids how to have sex in books to actual performance in full view.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:23am
- rouppe
  
  Why are they calling KO? It’s a Police matter.
  
  S27 of the Summary Offences Act
  
  Or S125 of the Crimes Act.
  
  Though both rely on the activity being visible from a public place
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:31pm
  - Ghost
    
    Where’s the public place? My reading of this story was they had sex in their back yard, which is fenced off. You’d have to ask how big the fence was.
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:39pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      In an era when 6 story apartment buildings are being mooted, that’s going to be a pretty high fence.
      
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      September 1, 2023 6:52pm
Ghost

They are asking the wrong question, it should be what is an idiot, because she is obviously capable of answering that

Australia’s first female prime minister fails to answer ‘what is a woman?’
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September 1, 2023 10:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Gillard is a waste of space. Elbow is on to it, “Adult Female.”
  Why can some people just not say that instead the waffle? Nek mint Gillard is on about traffic in the UK. Off topic by a country mile.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:10am
- ClanMcleod
  
  It’s why there is such a battle to control narrative and shut down dissenting voices on topics such as this, climate and covid.
  
  These people know that they cannot possibly address the many important questions in any sane or logical manner. The only out they have is to shut those questions down, or better still, make sure they never get asked in the first place.
  
  That’s why Ardern was so passionate in her desire for a ‘single source of truth’. It’s why no politician wants to even acknowledge that the covid years even happened. They can’t answer the questions that need to be asked in a rational manner.
  
  Certainly not without implicating themselves as being in part, responsible for the disaster that it was and still is.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:25am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

More on climate change:
This just came by email. Read by ‘continue without registration.’

https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
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September 1, 2023 10:20am
surfing

So we have Kerre Woodham on the radio this morning, claiming revenue is the same as profit.

She says the 4 big power companies made 7 billion dollars in net profit last year. But, that is revenue. After taking into account of costs of running the business, the combined net profit was only 530 million. Pitiful given the asset base.

She only over stated net profit by 13 TIMES!! She starts to get a bit confused when she reads the profit is down 65% from the previous year. That would mean the previous years ‘profits’ were almost 20 billion dollars using her logic.

Presumably she gets her info from the following stuff article, which is well into hysterical territory…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132841291/big-four-power-companies-earning-7-million-every-day
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September 1, 2023 10:30am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The level of discourse in mainstream media is moronic. We don’t have intelligent, clear thinking and rational journalists. We have parasitical stenographers and shills repeating whatever they are told to repeat.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:05am
  - BeaB
    
    Just look at the idiotic piece by Lloyd Burr who always fluffs his lines doing a nasty piece on Luxon’s speaking quirks. They never ever commented on Ardern’s grating speech mannerisms, mispronunciations and robotic responses. All of which were rich fodder for satirists if we had any in NZ.
    And that ridiculous nonsense about National’s use of stock photos. Hilariously from media that are the main users of stock photos.
    Why didn’t they include Labour? Why am I even asking such a silly question?
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:26am
    - Jack5
      
      Ardern’s speech mannerisms included, in some cases, pronouncing “s” as “sh,” something that seems to be done by some NZ women, young to middle aged.
      
      I haven’t noticed the same mannerism in men’s speech.
      
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      September 1, 2023 12:31pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Just keep her away from the checkbook.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:11am
  - Colville
    
    the what??
    
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    September 1, 2023 1:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The thing you write out to get free money when the eftpos won’t work.
    I know what you mean. I have a checkbook, but no idea where it is now.
    
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    September 1, 2023 2:55pm
- Drone
  
  Hi surfing, I haven’t read Kerre Woodham (McIvor)’s article but did come across an article on the “Point of Order” blog that made point that “Meridian, Mercury, Genesis and Contact’s combined operating profits for the year have totalled just under $2.7bn, fulfilling a forecast by broker Forsyth Barr that they would report the largest-ever increase in their operating profits, after what it described as in many ways a perfect year for the sector.” Obviously from this number they will pay some tax but I doubt that the tax taken will reduce the combined profits to a mere $530 million.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:23am
  - surfing
    
    Operating profit is probably what they should be talking about.
    
    However, the need to build new plant is part of doing business. and I don’t see that will ever change.
    
    Incidentally, wind turbines , love them or hate them, the tech is getting pretty incredible. . . .
    
    “China Three Gorges Corporation announced that the 16-megawatt MySE 16-260 turbine had been successfully installed at the company’s offshore wind farm near Fujian Province on July 19. The behemoth is 152 meters (500 feet) tall, and each single blade is 123 meters (403 feet) and weighs 54 tons. This means that the sweep of the blades as they rotate covers an area of 50,000 square meters (nearly 540,000 square feet).
    
    According to the corporation, just one of these turbines should be able to produce enough electricity to power 36,000 households of three people each for one year”
    
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    September 1, 2023 2:25pm
    - david
      
      Putting a time on the output measurement turns the statement into a nonsense.
      A generator capable of servicing the electrical requirements of x households is the issue. Whether or not it is for a day, a month or a year is irrelevant.
      Think about it.
      
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      September 1, 2023 9:56pm
- septic skeptic
  
  I take your point surfing but you need to consider how these assets are valued. To a large extent this is a vicious circle by which they crank up the valuation based on the revenue, then crank up the revenue to get a return on the valuation – rinse and repeat.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:36am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Auckland Airport Accounting 101
    
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    September 1, 2023 6:54pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Return on Investment? Debt levels also?
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/please-get-some-bill-boards-put-up-in-your-area/
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September 1, 2023 10:31am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Maui. 2 weeks and Biden admin has responded!!
This shit is unbelievable.

https://teapartypolls.com/thepoliticalmovement/fema-officials-stay-at-1000-a-night-luxury-resorts-as-homeless-hawaiians-suffer/
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September 1, 2023 10:37am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  I remember when George Bush was vilified daily for the failures of the New Orleans Mayor and Governor.
  
  But kill hundreds of citizens in Hawaii, putting in roadblocks to stop families leaving, and cutting off the water until a cultural assessment is done, while the President buggers off on yet another holiday, no problem, nothing to see here!
  
  After all, its not as if Hawaii will ever vote Republican, so who gives a shit.
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:32pm
I remember when

Supermarkets could soon be slapped with million-dollar fines as Govt launches new code: Newshub.

Government launches code in attempt to end power imbalance between supermarkets and suppliers

That’s great, the whole inflation problem has been brought under control!
It isn’t the Government’s (or the Reserve Bank’s) fault that inflation got out of kilter – it was the Supermarkets.
Begs the question of why (ignoring their known faults), if Supermarkets are the problem, why are they still easily the cheapest place to shop.

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September 1, 2023 10:48am
- RoboRob
  
  Same with the banks. Kiwi bank put up its interest rates and in the comments section people are screeming ‘whats the point of kiwibank if they just screw us over like the other banks’. Could it be we aren’t getting screwed over and that banks are simply pricing the cost of borrowing based on their costs?
  
  The left love to balme Supermarkets, Banks, Oil companies, power companies and generic greedy businesses on price rises. Could it simply be that the value of money has decreased becuase so much of it was printed (world wide) that you need more of it for the same goods now?
  
  Perhaps entry level economics should be a requirement at school and then journalists, ministers and finance ministers would have a basic grasp of how an economy works.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:04am
Clyde

I don’t know how close Ardern and Trudeau still are, but there are chilling comparisons in this doco. Well worth a view

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2AuVQKpq0
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September 1, 2023 10:53am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes I saw that yesterday and the parallels are very clear to see. In fact they are scary.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I skipped through that, will watch this avo.
  Trudeau is [Mod – use correct names] in drag. Canada seems to be the same as NZ 4 years ago.
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ardern in drag*
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:32pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Excellent, the parallels are as clear and obvious as they are concerning.
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:44pm
I remember when

How does the fact that National’s Climate Change spokesman asks the Minister whether he agrees with Dr John F Clauser’s statement that, “In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis”,
suddenly become disinformation?
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September 1, 2023 10:57am
I remember when

New record in a bizarre year – driest August, just 16.5 mm of rain: The Gisborne Herald.
The driest August on record for Gisborne, going back 135 years.

Must have a chat to one of those people I keep seeing on the news, the one’s that know the Climate Change is happening.
I’m certain that they will be able to explain exactly how this has happened.
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September 1, 2023 11:16am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  It’s almost as though the weather can be very variable.
  
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  September 1, 2023 6:07pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I think all of Gisborne’s rain fell earlier in the year. Just a timing problem.
  
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  September 1, 2023 6:56pm
BeaB

As far as I am concerned the news is too often no more than MSM propaganda. They want to be our sole source , the podium of truth.
We know they are not, that they are selective, partisan and usually not very intelligent. And frequently way behind social media news.
Dismis-information.
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September 1, 2023 11:21am
Maggie Pie

NATIONAL begins campaigning from tomorrow.

Rumor coming out of the Viaduct is this will be their 2023 Campaign song….

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gHTcQB_4AFw

Seems appropriate 😀

FULL SCREEN/SOUND UP
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September 1, 2023 11:28am
- Ghost
  
  Rumor is labour have chosen Loser
  
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  September 1, 2023 11:44am
Jack5

Classical music and the Woke …

A New Zealand-born violinist, Eleanor Ryan, is working on a thesis at Cambridge University on “decolonising” teaching. The full title of her project, as quoted on the Crump show at Radio NZ: “decolonising performance pedagogies in Higher Education”.

Yep, RNZ subeditors capitalise “higher education”.

Bryan Crump’s show from 3.0 to 7.0, week days, is an entertaining section of the RNZ Concert Programme.

In an interview with Crump, Ryan says that, in teaching music in the Caribbean, she came across the concept of “coloniality,” defined as the control and management of knowledge, values, and ways of being.

The RNZ web site of the interview explains:

”Eleanor is investigating how this is experienced today in the classical music world and, how this imbalance might be addressed by both students and teachers. Eleanor’s own experience teaching classical students violin at the University of Trinidad and Tobago was one of the catalysts for her study.”

WTF are young Trinidadians and Tobagonians, in the home of calypso, doing learning colonial classical music when they could be hammering great sound from West Indian steel drums or emulating calypso stars like Mighty Sparrow and Lord Kitchener?

Crump skilfully brings Ryan to the point shortly after 19 minutes into the interview, asking her view on teaching classical music in all countries. She responds, “I would argue we all live in a post-colonial state”.

The RNZ interview of Crump and Ms Ryan:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018904031

The report of the interview:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/concert/programmes/three-to-seven/audio/2018904031/thinking-about-the-way-classical-music-is-taught
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September 1, 2023 11:48am
- Benedict Yu
  
  When I read rubbish like this, I know I am wasting my time.
  
  “To what extent am I constantly imitating the past, embodying the past, rather than entering into relation with the people I am working with now, the culture I’m working with now, and how is that actually changing my practice?”
  
  Meanwhile, Chinese parents will happily send off their children to their violin and cello lessons in their “post-colonial state”.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/concert/programmes/three-to-seven/audio/2018904031/thinking-about-the-way-classical-music-is-taught
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:11pm
  - Jack5
    
    And traditional Chinese music is thriving as well, in parallel:
    
    https://youtu.be/3I988A51_4Q?si=SQvKYaIWk4zLdsD5
    
    Samuel Coleridge Taylor (1875-1912), of mixed English and African descent, was trying to blend Western classical music and African themes more than century ago. It doesn’t sound very African to our ears today, but I guess in the age of Victoria, it was a start.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9kLMaeGEfE
    
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    September 1, 2023 12:44pm
- kowtow
  
  Steel drums are a colonial artifact of the capitalist extractive oil industry .Comrade.
  
  If west indians reallyb wanted to “decolonise” they’d take a hike back to west africa.
  
  Innit.
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:29pm
Paul Marsden

Listened to a a Maori bloke on talkback radio this morning, who sometime ago enrolled at a whare wānanga to learn how to speak te reo. He stated that the tutors were constantly stoned and that the students would all be provided with KFC for lunch each day. All this of course on the taxpayers dime. Said he didn’t learn a thing and the place eventually folded.
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September 1, 2023 12:03pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  I took Maaori language classes at a Waananga in 2018. We did learn a fair bit of Maaori, but there was also a lot of propaganda and time-wasting.
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:51pm
Benedict Yu

Sports Bet in Australia had suspended betting on the election. Now back up.

Labour: $4.75
National: $1.18

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/new-zealand-politics/next-new-zealand-general-election-6227335
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September 1, 2023 12:05pm
Jack5

The Christchurch City Council’s district licensing committee is under fire from an anonymous critic at RNZ for allowing a liquor licence for Mama Hooch, now notorious for mass rapes.

The committee does seem to be have been lax in allowing take-away booze outlets to spring up in dying suburban shopping strips around the city.

The council always said this was because its hands were legally tied.

Lets see how the committee operates under legislation enacted in the dying stages of hte present government.

The accusation:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/497035/health-campaigner-calls-for-liquor-licensing-overhaul-after-mama-hooch-sexual-assault-case

The Bill, now an Act:

Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Community Participation) Amendment Bill
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September 1, 2023 12:23pm
NZer In Exile

Boing boing! It’s the (popular) official first day of Spring!
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September 1, 2023 12:32pm
Maggie Pie

Fantastic news that Mayor Wayne Brown has sold off nearly a BILLION dollars worth of Auckland Airport shares. Funds from the sale will be used to pay down Council debt…. which will result in savings well in excess of $34m anually to Ratepayers!

But OMG…one can only imagine the state this city would have been in now if the Otara based Green Samoan Fa’anana Efeso Collins had of been elected 🙁

No way would we have hung around here.
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September 1, 2023 12:38pm
- Swifty
  
  It would have been clown world. 🤡
  
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  September 1, 2023 12:53pm
- mogg
  
  AIA selling at 266 x earnings, EPS 0.02 per share.
  I know it’s a monopoly but where is the value, somebody must know something but it’s way beyond me.
  
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  September 1, 2023 2:01pm
- Observer of Life
  
  Magz: Do we know who bought the shares? I heard it’s an Ihumatau connection.
  
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  September 1, 2023 5:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    According to my patner it was quiet wide spread….Kiwisaver buy heaps and overseas pensioner funds.
    
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    September 1, 2023 7:15pm
All_on_Red

The Georgia Case against Trump and others is probably going to fall over.
‘Testimony this week in federal court by Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger reportedly contradicted claims that former President Donald Trump insisted he violate his oath of office by fabricating enough votes to win the state.

As Breitbart News has long noted, the media have misrepresented the January 2021 phone call between Trump and Raffensperger, quoting Trump as telling Raffensperger that he should “find” the votes necessary for him to win. In fact, Trump said “I just want to find” the votes, referring to his own state of mind. Moreover, the context was that Trump believed he actually had won the state of Georgia, and the votes simply had not been properly counted yet.’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/31/report-raffensperger-testimony-supports-trump-defense-in-georgia-case/

Personally I think the only risky prosecution for Trump is the obstruction charge regarding the Docs found at Mar a Lago
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September 1, 2023 12:41pm
Swifty

🎶 The meth bone’s connected to the jail bone….🎶

https://i.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/132855029/distraught-father-left-with-massive-bill-as-methaddicted-daughter-jailed
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September 1, 2023 12:53pm
Ghost

No, really, a green mp, who would have guessed

Greenpeace activists dropped three banners from the public gallery into the House calling for a reduction in the country’s number of cows on the last day of Parliament. Moments later they were escorted out by security, and then banned from Parliament.

That could have been the end of it, but ACT Party leader David Seymour called a point of order and said a photo Greenpeace shared of the incident appeared to have been taken by an MP in the debating chamber. He asked House Speaker Adrian Rurawhe to investigate, because to take the picture and share it would assist in the protest and, therefore, impede the House in its duties by encouraging people to enter as strangers and create disorder. Rurawhe said he would deal with it at the appropriate time.

Stuff reviewed the video from Parliament TV and it appears Eugenie Sage held her phone up during the protest. The angle of Greenpeace’s photo also suggests it was she – or someone sitting near her – who took the pic. But a Green Party spokesperson said nobody from the Greens shared the photo, or collaborated with Greenpeace, and Sage hasn’t responded to a request for comment.

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September 1, 2023 1:21pm
- Matt Long
  
  Sage was septic in criticising Simeon Brown who condemned the Greenpeace fundraiser on X.
  
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  September 1, 2023 5:51pm
Chuck Bird

Help Me Hera: My 17-year-old daughter is becoming very right-wing

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/31-08-2023/help-me-hera-my-17-year-old-daughter-is-becoming-very-right-wing
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September 1, 2023 1:33pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Full name Hera Lindsay Bird. Not a relation, Chuck?
  
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  September 1, 2023 7:01pm
ClanMcleod

Dr John Campbell.

Natural immunity wins……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiA1S6NvCo4

Ayesha Verrall and NZ media? Get your booster!!! 🤡
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September 1, 2023 1:40pm
- cmm
  
  Wow. No surprises that natural immunity is better. Surely anyone with half an ounce of understanding knew that from the very start.
  
  The point was made here many, many times with well laid out explanations.
  
  3 years later the people in white lab coats are admitting it – when they damn well knew all along.
  
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  September 1, 2023 1:58pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Can someone please send this to Ardern?
  I am sure I had it (I get sniffy nose etc now and again) but didn’t even know. Two vaxes to comply with the blackmail from Ardern. Then a while later, got a cough and strep throat, and had a positive RAT test.
  I am dam sure that the two vaxes destroyed my natural immunity.
  Everyone does realise that Ardern did not come up with this shit, she is just not smart enough. Just give her a subject and off she goes with word soup waffle.
  So yes, I would like her to watch that video, and explain what Dr John Campbell is saying.
  Many people made a lot of money off this “safe and effective” charade (in NZ) so they don’t give a shit. It has turned into “affective.”
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:56pm
ClanMcleod

Football is knee deep in nonsense

The UK is rapidly recognising that ‘woke’ ideology is destroying the country.

At one of the opening Premier League games, the players took the knee, but many of the crowd booed.

This is a gesture which originated as a political statement in the US, with all sorts of extremist political baggage. It divided people, rather than bringing them together. So it is in the UK. Taking the knee is not about racism, it is about power: the power to tell the players literally to kneel down to their masters, kneel down to those who control you, because despite your fantastic wages, you still belong to the officials at the Premier League clubs who want to use you to show how much they care, and what good people they all are.

The Premier League has become like our political class and the institutions taken over by woke, city-based graduates living in million-pound properties: they love telling people how to think. And regular people watching it push back. Hence the boos.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/football-is-knee-deep-in-nonsense/

Do not force your ideology on others, it NEVER ends well.
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September 1, 2023 1:56pm
- cmm
  
  The main idea seems to be to undermine anything male: rugby, soccer (ok, ok, football if you prefer) and beer.
  
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  September 1, 2023 2:00pm
Chuck Bird

FULL VIDEO: Climate Protesters Shut Down BURNING MAN, Rangers Ram Through Blockade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84
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September 1, 2023 2:07pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Excellent policing. Can we get them to train our police?
  
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  September 1, 2023 2:38pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Our Police are pussies. They just could not handle a situation like that.
    ‘What do I do, Mum?’
    
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    September 1, 2023 4:15pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  The usual cry-bully tactics. Good the police just cleared them away.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:11pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Nobody hurt, they were blocking the public highway, were removed, arrested. Job done. In NZ, give them some KFC and ask them nicely to move on….
    
    Unfair actually, The police in Wellington acted promptly to remove the idiots who had climbed the gantry and locked the access gate.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/496937/protest-causes-traffic-delays-in-central-wellington-banner-unfurled-over-motorway
    
    Cynical me wonders if the instructions are out to do their job properly, there’s an election coming up……?
    
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    September 1, 2023 3:24pm
cmm

Johannesburg has a fire in a 5 storey building that managed to kill 74 people – including 12 children.

How the hell does that happen? Easy for a place like Johannesburg.

The building was condemned some years back and boarded up etc. Gangs illegally took it over and converted it into “living spaces” which they rent out.

The building was completely gutted, so the “living spaces” are basically shacks constructed within the building. So basically a shanty town built indoors – a death trap.

Fire suppression equipment in the building was looted a long time ago and sold for scrap.

Any electricity in the building is illegal with illegally run extensions etc. Heating/cooking is generally by kerosene stoves etc. Fires are common, but they are normally extinguished before they get out of hand.

But not this time… at about 1.30 am the fire was well alight and the fire brigade was called.
Apparently it then took quite a while to get the firefighting and EMS on site. Firefighting equipment is in poor repair.

These people were there illegally and attempts to evict them (and others in similar circumstances have been challenged by various NGOs and blocked by the courts)

Of course there has been a lot of blame deflecting. Of course much of the finger pointing has been at apartheid, colonialism etc.

Makes sense. Many of the people are illegals from other countries. If the colonials hadn’t built the roads to get there then the people would not be there. Nor too if they hadn’t made SA an attractive place to come to.
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September 1, 2023 2:13pm
Inandout

Trudeau in Canada is not the poster boy he once was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYDqMGOnBxU
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September 1, 2023 2:16pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I wonder if morons will keep voting for toy boy?
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Māori Land Court Chief Judge Caren Fox to chair Waitangi Tribunal.
I wonder if Caren Fox knows the current Treaty is a rogue Treaty and will act accordingly?
By rogue I mean “Forestry and Fisheries’ was NOT in the 1840 original written in Maori. It was NOT in the Littlewood Draft. Forestry and Fisheries were added by Sir Hugh Kawharu post 1975, and the Treaty was further tampered with by Geoffrey Palmer.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/m%C4%81ori-land-court-chief-judge-caren-fox-to-chair-waitangi-tribunal/ar-AA1g401u
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September 1, 2023 2:20pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “It was first established under the Treaty of Waitangi Act in 1975 as a way to have Treaty claims about contemporary government action investigated, and in 1985 had its role expanded to include events dating back to 1940.”
  I think that is a typo. The RNZ un-authored post means 1840 I think.
  Deliberate? Who knows?
  
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  September 1, 2023 2:22pm
PaulP

So corrections advised the court that the murder accused was NOT suitable for electronic bail monitoring but the judge decided he knew best obviously.

These judges really need to be named and shamed. Some criminals are just too bad to be allowed out.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rotorua-murder-accused-hendrix-kahia-at-large-after-cutting-off-monitoring-bracelet-before-trial/WSULQKVALZCU7GOGQ5AFE3BTBI/
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September 1, 2023 2:21pm
ClanMcleod

Thomas Cranmer currently being interviewed on Reality Check Radio by Peter Williams.

https://realitycheck.radio/

Interesting, how come RNZ or TV One haven’t got this interview? Maybe he knows he’ll get a fair go on RCR……not so much in the mainstream gutter media.
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September 1, 2023 2:21pm
Fisiani2

Get two placards back to back and stand at the side of a main road with a long view time. Best form of marketing ever. Multiple people doing this will go viral
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September 1, 2023 2:23pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Voices for Freedom and RCR tactics for a while now.
  Very effective.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:41pm
cmm

This scumbag is disgusting, but I think it is a bit over the top for a judge to describe squirting water in someone’s face with a water bottle as “waterboarding” and torture.

But here’s the really interesting bit:
“He was also convicted of demanding with menaces after a gang-related incident in 2019 when he and two associates took two vehicles from a victim after demanding $25,000.”

In 2019 he was convicted, but two and a half years later he’s already out again? How does that work.

Oh well, he got a 4 year sentence. Should be back to his normal ways again by early 2025.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dunedin-man-who-strangled-waterboarded-ex-partner-jailed-for-four-years/NVJRL33DIVH2LKJZXNEVHVMWM4/
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September 1, 2023 2:41pm
- alex Masterley
  
  He has more recent convictions for thuggery in Central Otago as well.
  4 years is not enough for this bloke.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:18pm
- cmm
  
  Maybe while he is inside he can finally do some good for the world and have a wee chat to this guy:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-man-grant-smallridge-jailed-for-filming-himself-sexually-violating-children-in-public-changing-rooms/M6UVZOZXYNDFHE4VJ5KYBB7FCE/
  
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  September 1, 2023 5:13pm
Bobba Fret

Surprise. Kiri Allan’s court appearance put off.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/kiri-allan-crash-and-arrest-former-justice-minister-s-court-date-put-off/ar-AA1g4may?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e4c72ad94b454e80a46b64533b8f68af&ei=15
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September 1, 2023 3:02pm
- Ghost
  
  Delayed 2 weeks, which won’t make labour happy because it means they now have her court case in the media during their campaign.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:21pm
Suze Wainwright

Is Ian Wishart’s story on Twitter that James Shaw has fabricated his academic credentials true?

Shaw’s supporters are queuing up to say so what, of course, but lying like that can be quite serious can’t it? (Although I do seem to remember that Shannon Halbert was caught fibbing about his MBA (or lack of one thereof) and only seemed to suffer embarrassment).
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September 1, 2023 3:02pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Reminds me of this old case.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-immigration-boss-escapes-jail-for-cv-fraud/KLD4VZEOZGX2RT7KM73IS72WSU/
  
  If it’s true re Shaw, here’s hoping he does the honourable thing…../s
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:03pm
Maggie Pie

Anyone still use a library?
We, nor anyone we know, have been into one for the last 30+ years.
Just another drain on Auckland ratepayers.

Go Wayne!!
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September 1, 2023 3:08pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  While they are still around you can get a bit of value by signing up and renting cheap audiobooks from them.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:15pm
  - artemisia
    
    Audio books are free to borrow from Wellington libraries. Including many thousands available to download, no shelf space required, just a phone or tablet etc. EZ.
    
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    September 1, 2023 4:02pm
  - cmm
    
    You can probably just download the audiobooks online from the library.
    
    Ours (Christchurch) has a “free” service for downloading various audio books and ereader books.
    
    I haven’t been in a physical library since we were banned coz no jab (so not since 2020).
    
    I used to talk to the librarians a lot (yes, including the commie guy with a nose ring). They tell me 90% of their day is helping people do Google searches and teach them how to charge their phone etc.
    
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    September 1, 2023 5:09pm
  - Ghost
    
    Our library streams movies and tv shows through the Aussie https://beamafilm.com/
    
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    September 1, 2023 5:27pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  They are a pretty good service for the elderly and poor. A lot of woke bloat in there that could be chucked out though.
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:17pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Actually Maggie, I do have a bit of a soft spot for public libraries (drag Queen story times notwithstanding).
  
  In my experience, poorer communities use them because they’re largely free – but better off communities use them because they’re largely free too.
  
  I was involved with a fairly well off library one school holidays (one where the local children would have thought nothing of at least one family trip per year to America, Asia or Europe) and where do you think all the dads taking leave to be with their children went – because it was free & convenient?
  
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  September 1, 2023 3:59pm
  - artemisia
    
    No serious research done by me, but I do keep an eye on new audio downloads and there is a noticeable preponderance of female authors. I do wonder if this is deliberate, and if more librarians being female impacts selection.
    
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    September 1, 2023 4:30pm
    - fernglas
      
      I’ve noticed the same and wondered the same, but I am also aware that women comprise about 2/3rds of readers of fiction, so it may be that more books are being purchased to meet that demographic. However, authors are about 50/50 male and female. And about 80% of librarians are female.
      
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      September 1, 2023 9:19pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    And, in winter, warm
    
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    September 1, 2023 7:05pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well don’t blame Wayne if the alkies and Bag ladies start hanging out at Remuera Rackets.
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:51pm
- greybeard
  
  Of course people go to libraries.
  You ought to get out more: try going to your own local library and see what is happening. Many REAL people derive great pleasure and benefits from them.
  
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  September 1, 2023 6:48pm
  - Jack5
    
    📚Yep, public libraries are a great resource.
    
    The Scots-American capitalist, Dale Carnegie, financed more than 2,500 public libraries in the English speaking world, including some in NZ.
    An intelligent magnate.
    
    Napoleon’s best surviving quote: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
    
    Napoleon’s second best quote:“Show me a family of readers, and I will show you the people who move the world.”
    
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    September 1, 2023 11:58pm
ClanMcleod

Oh this made me nearly spill my afternoon beer laughing so hard!

Link to X

The people running the media in NZ have to be really stupid don’t they? 🤡😂😂😂

[Mod-fixed link]
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September 1, 2023 4:29pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I get “Hmm…this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.”
  
  [Mod – fixed now]
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:31pm
- Steve Todd
  
  The people running the media in NZ have to be really stupid don’t they?
  
  Unfortunately for me, Clan, I will never know.
  
  I refuse to click on links whereby the commenter has not informed us what it is about (because the risk that I will be disappointed, annoyed that my time has been wasted, is too great).
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:37pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Hi Steve – I understand, it was a bit difficult to explain without giving it away. Basically Breakfast TV hosts with a tragically funny case of mistaken identity when giving a shoutout to someone’s anniversary. A bit of a ‘Candid Camera’ moment.
    
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    September 2, 2023 7:22am
    - Steve Todd
      
      Thanks for responding, Clan. I very much appreciate you having taken the trouble to do so.
      
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      September 2, 2023 3:21pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Is ‘We are family’ a song from ‘West side Story’?
  Proof the stupid is as stupid does.
  
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  September 1, 2023 4:40pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Thanks mod!
  
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  September 2, 2023 7:19am
Colville

Rich NIMBYs kill housing plan.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300962816/shelly-bay-sale-to-peter-jackson-and-fran-walsh-bittersweet-for-mayor-tory-whanau

Calling Tory a heavyweight was a bit sharp! 🙂
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September 1, 2023 5:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Is there an English version?
  
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  September 1, 2023 5:46pm
- rouppe
  
  I doubt Jackson killed the plan. Cassels is pretty influential in his own right.
  
  I imagine it just got too hard. Whenua wouldn’t have the money, they just want to cause trouble.
  
  It was just an easy way out of a situation that was just too much trouble
  
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  September 1, 2023 6:29pm
- greybeard
  
  Tory is pissed-off because her cuzzies have been shut out of a great money-making venture.
  
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  September 1, 2023 6:49pm
greybeard

The police have been very busy the last couple of days !
Maybe they were told to get some good newsworthy results before the election.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300962964/eleven-people-arrested-meth-cars-firearms-seized-in-wellington-police-sting

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/new-western-bay-of-plenty-police-retail-crime-unit-arrests-dozens-of-prolific-thieves/D6VRUDXASFHHRL2BRHRRQXDTLQ/
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September 1, 2023 7:10pm
fernglas

In 2004 two Auckland University spin-offs merged to become Neuren, which later listed on the ASX. Its business was the development of a neurological drug invented by Dame Margaret Brimble. Auckland University retained a 13.2% shareholding, which it sold down over time. Neuren recently got FDA approval for the use of its drug, now known as Daybue, in a rare disease in the USA and has recently sold the rest of world rights. There are other drugs in the pipeline which are showing huge promise for treating a range of neurological disorders across the spectrum. Neuren has just made it onto the ASX 200. It has a market cap of $1.622 billion. Had Auckland University kept its shares they would be worth $219,834,000. Oops.
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