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Warren

Electoral Commission attended Mongrel Mob where Labour MP Ingrid Leary dropped in.
Taieri MP Ingrid Leary mistook Mongrel Mob Hui in Dunedin for a Electoral Commission meeting because there were Commission staff there.
The Commission has confirmed to the Herald that it was invited to Mongrel Mob members Harry Tams election hui at the weekend.
This should be sending alarm bells out to the Country when our Government paid employees are meeting with gang members and criminals at a hui organized by Mongrel Mob Leader Harry Tam especially after former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern donated over $20,000 to the same Harry Tam to help there members in drug dependency before last Election when Harry Tam was also calling on his Mongrel Membership to vote Labour at that Election.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/electoral-commission-attended-mongrel-mob-hui-where-labour-mp-ingrid-leary-dropped-in/KZJACLLZMNAI5ADY6OO5CFLNC4/
What else is this corrupt Labour Government giving to other gangs around New Zealand to endorse the vote for Labour and the Green Parties.
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July 5, 2023 8:01am
- Tony Stuart
  
  One of the Electoral Commission’s jobs is to maximise enrolment to vote. I have no problem with them attending a hui by the Mob, as long as encouraging enrolments was all they did.
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:19am
  - kowtow
    
    Really .
    
    Let’s turn up at that meeting which is run by organised crime in order to further organised crime and you think it’s ok for any govt person to turn up there to ask them to enroll.
    
    Decent society should have nothing , nothing to do with organised crime .
    
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    July 5, 2023 8:34am
  - Simon
    
    “One of the Electoral Commission’s jobs is to maximise enrolment to vote.”
    
    OK Tony.
    
    An overtly pro-labo criminal gang the mongel mob has electoral commission staff ballot harvesting for Labo around 3 months out from an election & this is fine?
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:00am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      It’s their job Simon:
      
      We register voters and add them to the electoral roll. We keep the electoral rolls up to date and accurate so:
      
      * all registered voters can take part in parliamentary elections
      * elections run smoothly.
      We also supply electoral rolls to local authorities for use in local authority elections.
      
      https://elections.nz/about/about-the-electoral-commission/
      
      I don’t like or support gangs at all. But it is their members’ absolute right to enrol to vote, unless they are serving prison sentences of three years or more.
      
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      July 5, 2023 9:23am
      - kowtow
        
        If the leader of that criminal enterprise can make such a public and well publicised ploy of supporting his chosen party , Labour , then there’ll be no need for him or anyone else to invite govt or MP types to a meeting to encourage enrolment .
        
        They are very well organised and seem to be able to attain their ends very easily , thank you very much.
        
        They can get millions from labour , they can get the police to direct traffic at their parades and they have flooded the country with drugs.Now they can get MPs and public servats to play the part of extras at their meetings .
        
        How then is it so difficult for them to enroll when their head wants them to.
        
        This was yet another publicity stunt by organised crime and there’s been no shortage of idiots fall for it.
        
        The sooner everyone wakes up the cynical and critical dangers that organised crime poses this country the better.
        
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        July 5, 2023 9:43am
      - Ruawai
        
        Presume the electoral commission will also send staff to Destiny Church, Rotary clubs, all Christian church groups, facist skin head groups, etc
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:38am
      - tf78
        
        Why can’t they be like the rest of us and use our own initiative and enroll all by ourselves without any encouragement from the electoral commission, or can’t they read.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:28am
      - Burtland
        
        maybe the Electoral Commission should provide free sausage rolls to all voters this year?
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:38am
      - Pineapple Lumps
        
        It is also their job to maintain political neutrality!
        
        Bad look that leadership was promoting voting Labour and Labour MP in attendance.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:15pm
    - Mike
      
      Tony is exactly right. One of the commission’s jobs is to encourage enrolment. That might extend to people who you might prefer didn’t vote. Shocking, huh?
      BTW, ‘ballot harvesting’ is a different, largely mythical, behavior, with zero relevance to NZ elections.
      
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      July 5, 2023 9:24am
      - RoboRob
        
        Dis information Mike. Ballot harvesting is a real practice and is defined in law in the US. It is 100% NOT Mythical.
        
        To increase voter participation, various organizations in multiple states have made active and coordinated efforts to collect absentee voters’ ballots during elections. Then they drop them off at polling places or election offices.
        
        This practice, known as ballot harvesting, has been effective and, unsurprisingly, has generated controversy.
        
        https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s–elections-work/ballot-harvesting–what-is-it–how-does-it-work-.html
        
        Sound mythical to you?
        
        p.s. You are right that what the electoral commision does is not ballot harvesting.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:38am
      - Cassandra
        
        Provided they put the same effort into all groups eg Destiny Church, evangelical groups, Stop Cogovernance etc.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:24am
      - Mike
        
        Sorry, got that a bit wrong. Ballot harvesting, aka ballot collecting, is explicitly illegal in many of the US states most keen on suppressing voter numbers. Many of the electoral practices we take as normal in a developed country, such as encouraging enrolment, postal voting and providing assistance for people to vote, are deliberately commingled in the US with ideas about alleged voter fraud.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:31am
      - kowtow
        
        Roborob
        
        Have you read the Time Magazine article about how the US “election was saved” by a ‘shadow campaign’ , funded by tech billionaires and big business , supporting activist US labor unions .
        
        Now there’s a real conspiracy . And they made no secret of it.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:40am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @Cassandra,
        
        A person following the Stop Co-Governance would not be a Labour/Greens/ Maori Party voter.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:40am
      - RoboRob
        
        @Mike
        
        More spin…
        
        ‘explicitly illegal in many of the US states most keen on suppressing voter numbers’
        
        It is pure opinion that any states are keen on suppressing voter turn out. Georgia, which the dems claim suppresses voter turnout, has been increasing turn out significantly since new ‘strict’ voter requirements were enabled.
        
        I would strongly argue vote harvesting, collecting votes from other people and depositing them at a voting both, is a practice that massively increases the risk of voter fraud. There is no reason for it to exist which is why it doesnt exist here.
        
        Your claim that postal voting is standard in countries other than the US is also BS. We have postal voting here for ‘spcial votes’ (the people who cant get to booths) however voters are strongly encouaged to vote in person on the day. This was also the practice in the US up until COVID (how do you think the milatary vote?). So the US and NZ were very with regards to postal voting up to COVID, where they became more in on postal ballets than us. Likely we would have as well if we had voting during lockdown.
        
        Try dealing with ract rather then opinion or innuendo.
        
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        July 5, 2023 12:06pm
  - Bullion
    
    I agree. Electoral Commission are doing their job.
    
    Once the electoral commission pr team verified their staff attended the meeting there was probably a bit of discussion on how to respond because they’re worried the public will go ape shit for doing their fucking jobs.
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:57am
    - Ruawai
      
      Who invited Leary, the commission or the gang?
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:39am
      - Bullion
        
        Neither
        
        “I was invited to the meeting by a member of the [Corstorphine] Community Hub committee. As I’ve previously said, I was under the impression it was an Electoral Commission meeting encouraging enrolment. The confirmation from the Electoral Commission that they attended the meeting to promote enrolment confirms how this misunderstanding arose.”
        
        The invitation that went to Leary indicated that she was going to a meeting that was organised by the Electoral Commission around voter enrolment.
        
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        July 5, 2023 1:49pm
- pdm
  
  Warren as I asked yesterday.
  
  Did Ingrid Leary take lunch – eg KFC, McDonalds, Burger King asper South Auckland a few elections ago.
  
  Or was she lunch?
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:28am
  - Warren
    
    And these are the answers you get from former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s Chief Science advisor Dame Professor Juliet Gernard’s which examines the context within which gangs exist.
    New Zealand can’t arrest its way out of the gang problem, Prime Minister’s Science Chief warns.
    This is just another stooge justifying Labours view. But maybe one day they will realize that it goes both ways and what happens to the never ending victims that gangs have left and the effect it leaves on their families.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/493188/new-zealand-can-t-arrest-its-way-out-of-the-gang-problem-science-chief-warns
    
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    July 5, 2023 8:55am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      And another covid shill who refuses point blank to even respond to emails asking about her current position regarding all things covid. Vaccination, lockdown, masks etc.
      She is the PM’s chief science advisor. Ardern praised her to the heavens when she was resigning as PM. In a response to the first email she downplayed her role. Basically saying covid policy was nothing to do with her and hadn’t been for a while.
      So why was she one of only two people actually named by Ardern in regards to the covid response? She was simply asked, based on current evidence, had she changed her position in regards to policies implemented at the time.
      Crickets.
      
      Another coward hiding and hoping everyone forgets what happened the last 3 years and it all goes away. They won’t and it won’t.
      
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      July 5, 2023 9:27am
      - Mike
        
        One of the features of modern technology has been the much-increased ease of communication from cranks. In the good old days, the ‘crazies’ folder in the correspondence filing cabinet was quite small. These days, the volume of emails is such that I would expect crank communications are not kept or recorded, let alone receive replies. This would apply especially to questions about popular ‘alternative’ topics, where the correspondents would already have the answers they considered correct from random postings on social media sites.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:10am
      - plc
        
        She spoke at a work function (a CRI) in 2021.
        
        She claimed to be integral in Labour’s “science-led” approach to Covid response.
        
        If she is denying her involvement now then she is being disingenuous.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:19am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        @plc – I have it on record, she is minimising her involvement with all things covid dramatically. I accepted this when I got the first response from her PA.
        Then I became aware of the numerous statements from Ardern who was effusive in her praise of Gerrard. A substantial difference of opinion.
        When pressed on this conflict the correspondence ended very abruptly. A common theme when you get an unsuspecting party who thinks they can fob you off with waffle. It must be a hell of a shock when they are called out with evidence and asked to elaborate.
        
        Personally I have no doubt she knows she got it badly wrong and is desperately hoping it all goes away. She’s not alone in that position, particularly among those in the public service paid for by taxpayers.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:40am
      - Jack5
        
        What is behind Ardern’s chemist mate …
        
        Gerrard has a koru tattooed on her back. So reports this site on the Internet – no picture.
        
        https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Juliet_Gerrard
        
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        July 5, 2023 1:43pm
    - Bullion
      
      This report contains more thought and evidence into reducing gang harm than the catch phrases ACT and National spout.
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:04am
    - crikey
      
      Why is the Chief Science advisor putting her oar in for what is a sociological (not science) problem?
      
      Perhaps she should devote her effort to the problem (related to her ‘portfolio’) of students leaving school with little to no understanding of key scientific concepts and what that means for New Zealand’s future.
      
      After all, who will be able to say, sometime in the future, ‘the science is settled’? 😁
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:05am
      - Mike
        
        Your comment seems to assume that criminal behavior cannot be analyzed nor criminal policies based on any evidence.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:12am
      - Burtland
        
        Dame Juliet Ann Gerrard DNZM FRSNZ is an English biochemistry academic.
        
        The gong says it all really.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:50am
    - Beach Haven expat
      
      I’m struggling as to why the chief science advisor is writing such a report. Maybe you could argue social sciences but this is a matter for experts in criminology, justice, sociology and possibly public health but it seems quite a leap from tackling that tricky little virus.
      Much like the Disinformation Project: You tell us what you want us to find and we’ll knock you our a report
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:12am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        She doesn’t want to talk about the tricky little virus any longer. She got that badly wrong at the beginning and wants to change topic in case anyone remembers. We do.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:57am
      - Mike
        
        The chief science adviser does not have to be an expert in any particular field to be able to advise the government on scientific approaches. For example, the previous science advisor was not a chemist, but was able to produce a report exploding the myth of widespread methamphetamine contamination in homes.
        
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        July 5, 2023 11:35am
      - Bullion
        
        The report was co-authored by experts in the field. It was undertaken under the office of the Chief Science Advisor
        
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        July 6, 2023 10:12am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It only needs one disgruntled head of a gang to spill snd it would be curtains
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:31am
- Ruawai
  
  Someone needs to OIA the invitation Leary received and look at her ministerial diary to see if she is misleading the public.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    With forensics to see if the diary was altered.
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:02pm
  - Stephen
    
    She isn’t a Minister, just a lowly bankbench MP.
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:50pm
- Philview
  
  The week before we saw photos of the police shutting down a meeting in Dunedin that was discussing Co-Governance. We live in strange times.
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Those Police should never have let the protesters into the building. It was a private meeting. The Sergeant did not know the law, forced the doormen to let them in. Sign outside said “Private Meeting”
    NZ Police need to up their game.
    It was 3 Scout volunteers who shut it down, not the Police.
    
    https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/great-start-to-dunedin-campaign/
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:22pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      There was another meeting that was shut down. Not sure where now. Julian Batchelor shut it down so at not to give protesters the glory of stopping a meeting.
      The best meeting so far would have to be the Ashburton one. A “Kuia” spoke.
      https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/breakthrough-in-ashburton/
      
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      July 5, 2023 12:27pm
  - kowtow
    
    And that Leary made a fb post about supporting the fascists who wanted it shut down.
    
    Nek minnit she turns up at a gang agm !
    
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    July 5, 2023 2:58pm
- Jim
  
  I wish it was $20k?!
  Ardern’s lunatic government gave the MM $2.75 MILLION TAX PAYERS DOLLARS!
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/446977/is-labour-funding-the-mongrel-mob-what-you-need-to-know
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:57pm
Chuck Bird

This is not premium.

Brooke van Velden: Race criteria for health waitlists an embarrassing backwards step for NZ

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/brooke-van-velden-race-criteria-for-health-waitlists-an-embarrassing-backwards-step-for-nz/RR7EA4Q2G5BHLN5Q4M5ICJB2H4/
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July 5, 2023 8:02am
- Grunter
  
  I very good article. This illustrates why ACT are making gains in the polls. Tell it like it is. Logical. No drama. Hit the big issues hard.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:35am
- Bullion
  
  Brooke says this “No one will deny that statistics show Māori and Pasifika have worse health outcomes, but adding race to the waitlist criteria won’t make one iota of difference. If the first four criteria of clinical need, time already waited, geographical location and economic deprivation are doing their job, then racial discrimination is not needed.”
  
  Knowing full well that the system results in worse outcomes for people of a certain race.
  
  She just spouts personal responsibility bs when studies show that Maori are less likely to be diagnosed and treated equally with non-Maori – irrespective of lifestyle (Maori and a Pakeha man could have the same lifestyle but their treatment is different resulting in worse outcomes for Maori ).
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/114876745/the-ongoing-racial-inequities-uncovered-in-decades-of-health-research
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:26am
  - Burtland
    
    The studies are from the The Māori/Indigenous Health Institute at Otago University – arent they paid to say that?
    
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    July 5, 2023 11:56am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yes, paid. By who? The everbearing Net Taxpayer of course.
      
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      July 5, 2023 12:29pm
    - I remember when
      
      Otago, where the longest-lived Maori live.
      Lowest differential between Maori and other ethnicities, it is less than two years.
      
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      July 5, 2023 2:00pm
  - WaveyDavey
    
    “less likely to be diagnosed” because they won’t see a doctor
    
    “worse outcomes” because they won’t complete courses of treatment
    
    Both of the above are reasons that have been found by various studies, so yeah, personal responsibility plays a large part
    
    Now add in smoking rates, excess alcohol consumption and higher levels of illegal drug use an then come back to me
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:27pm
    - Bullion
      
      I don’t want to have to regurgitate the whole article here but that is not what studies show.
      
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      July 5, 2023 8:17pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Well yes they have in the past. But the pre-determined outcome ones you refer to of course don’t
        
        Are you also seriously suggesting that smoking rates and alcohol abuse aren’t more prevalent in Māori?
        
        Oh and finally, men are less likely to go to the doctor than women and less likely to complete a course of treatment – you presumably believe the health system to be misandrist if you follow your own logic
        
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        July 5, 2023 9:00pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Here’s the MoH in its own words
        
        “ the prevalence of obesity among adults differed by ethnicity, with 71.3% of Pacific, 50.8% of Māori, 31.9% of European/Other and 18.5% of Asian adults obese”
        
        But yeah, racism or something
        
        https://www.health.govt.nz/nz-health-statistics/health-statistics-and-data-sets/obesity-statistics#:~:text=Adult%20obesity%20statistics,%25)%2C%20but%20not%20for%20men
        
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        July 5, 2023 9:03pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        So to sum up, you have a group who
        
        1. Don’t seek medical advice
        2. Don’t complete courses of treatment
        3. Smoke more
        4. Abuse drugs more
        5. Drink more alcohol
        6. Don’t exercise as much
        7. Eat more high calorie, high fat, high salt foods
        8. Are genetically predisposed to obesity and diabetes before you even take into account all of the above
        
        But according to you it’s racist whitey who’s to blame
        
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        July 5, 2023 9:07pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Here’s one about lung cancer treatment/rates from 2008, before everything became racist
        
        “ Mäori were more likely to decline treatment and miss appointments than Europeans…”
        
        “Lung cancer has a disproportionate impact on Mäori and increasingly on Pacific Peoples”
        
        https://www.jto.org/article/S1556-0864(15)31366-6/fulltext
        
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        July 5, 2023 9:17pm
      - Bullion
        
        “The medication and treatments exist now to really reduce cardiovascular disease. But Māori are being under diagnosed and under treated,” Pitama says.
        
        “The problem was Māori weren’t getting screened. If they were being screened, they were less likely to get medication and more likely to get lifestyle advice. They got what we wouldn’t consider best practice first.
        
        “So Māori had to be really well-behaved, stop smoking and lose weight before they were allowed the medication. Whereas Pākehā were more likely to get the medication and then get the lifestyle advice.
        
        “Then what we found, if a Māori patient and non-Māori patient presented with the same symptoms, they both get screened and treated according to the guidelines, they both actually have the same outcomes.”
        
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        July 6, 2023 10:16am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Get of your arse and go to the doctor if you are not well. Eat properly and exercise… Its simple Bullion.
    
    If Maori dont want to take responsibility then that is tough.
    
    And the only reason european men do better in the system is most of them have wifes nagging them to go to the doctor and get sorted….
    
    So sick of its all about race bs….
    
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    July 5, 2023 1:17pm
    - Bullion
      
      Frustrating people can’t engage with research and just take these smooth brain takes.
      
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      July 5, 2023 8:19pm
  - Philview
    
    I am European and I can’t see a single relative in my family tree who made 80. It grates when the Government/media talk of a blanket race based equity measure.
    
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    July 5, 2023 1:26pm
  - kisekiman
    
    Don’t worry mate, there won’t be a system soon and then everyone will be back on level pegging. Except those who can can afford private of course. Look out for medical tourism being a niche offering from travel agents. Good times.
    
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    July 5, 2023 4:06pm
  - Aquarius
    
    The bullshit it all yours. Studies in the Mormon Church showed Māori Mormons had the same life expectancy as non Māori
    Lifestyle choices anyone ?
    AKA personal responsibility
    
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    July 5, 2023 4:19pm
    - kisekiman
      
      Sort of flies in the face of the theory that Maori are superior physical beings. What are we to make of this evidence that would suggest genetics might play a part in their poor health and other outcomes?
      
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      July 5, 2023 4:59pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Culture and attitude makes the difference between a shit life and a good life. Only complete and utter morons obsess over race and heritage.
      
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      July 5, 2023 9:14pm
Yvette

BREAKING NEWS
A judge limited Biden administration officials from contacting social media sites, a ruling that could curtail efforts to fight disinformation.

This may require a working group,Jacinfa, or a committee
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July 5, 2023 8:06am
- Yvette
  
  Jacinfa
  
  Sorry about that
  But TextEdit dictation seems to think she sure remain nameless – for at least an
  adernity :o)
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:31am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Damn, I thought it was a clever twist on her name. Short for Jacinfamation. Sounds about right!
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:32am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So does Jaspinda. Spins like a kid’s top.
      
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      July 5, 2023 12:33pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

One of NZ’s oddities is how Pacific Islanders are lumped together with Maoris whenever negative position statistics are discussed. Yet, Pacific Islanders are simply another immigrant group, with no greater claim on NZ’s resources than any other immigrant group.

Put another way, how long do unwhite Africans have to be in NZ, and how many of them do there have to be before the standard phrase becomes ‘Maori, Pasifika and African’?
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July 5, 2023 8:06am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Pacific Islanders are simply another immigrant group’
  
  As are maoris.
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:36am
  - Rusty
    
    @kowtow,
    
    European Nzers can also be called Pacific Islanders.
    
    NZ is an island(s) located in the Pacific.
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:27am
    - kowtow
      
      One would have hoped that there’d come a day when we’re all just ‘New Zealanders’ and not divided by race etc .
      
      But even the very name “New Zealand” is in danger.
      
      We have been manouvered into a very divided state , people need to ponder why.
      
      Disunity can only end badly.
      
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      July 5, 2023 9:49am
    - Martonman
      
      Which is why I now identify on all Govt data sets as a PI. Born in NZ which is a Pacific Is.
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:00am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Is there a genetic test that can distinguish between Maori and Pacific Islanders (of a Polynesian ethnicity)?
  If not, then lumping them together has a rational basis (genetically speaking).
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:37am
- gravedodger
  
  Then there is the “Asian” demographic, that covers from Israel to Taiwan, a valid point Bollocks.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:04am
  - Taieri
    
    And stretches all the way North to the Arctic Russia…
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:02am
- Jack5
  
  A Maori Health Authority official on Red Radio this morning kept talking of “Maori and Pacific Islanders”.
  
  This suggests the Maori Health Authority is even more race-based than it at first appeared.
  
  On the face of it, Labour is following the advice suggestion of Odakyu-Sen and creating a separate system for Polynesians.
  
  Unless, unless … Labour is including Melanesians, such as Fijians, in the Maori Health Authority. They are Pacific Islanders. How would Labour classify ethnic Indian people of Fiji? They are Pacific Islanders. As of course is everyone in New Zealand.
  
  How do non-Maori Woke people rationalise a separate Maori Health Authority? On the one hand they want multiculturalism, and on the other hand their Labour Government is charging into race-based systems.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:19am
  - Ruawai
    
    Pacific Islanders are grouped with Maori because as groups they have the poorest health, the govt needs to ask why this is the case. Asians are the healthiest so look at what they do well and educate M and PI.
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:59am
    - Jack5
      
      Leftists and the Maori Health Authority ignore genetic and cultural factors.
      
      For example, overwhelmingly it’s white people who suffer skin cancer, the country’s most common form of cancer. Does anyone blame the health-care system for this?
      
      In the United States, Asian Americans suffer disproportionately highly from stomach cancer, and Vietnamese Americans suffer liver cancer at 12 times the rate of non-Hispanic White Americans.
      
      In our corner of the world, Tongans, perhaps related to their typically large build, suffer from kidney disease, and Maori and Samoans also suffer higher rates.
      
      Many Tongan sufferers come to New Zealand for treatment by the struggling NZ health system.
      
      Maori, Pacific Islanders, and Indians in NZ suffer high rates of cardiovascular disease than Whites. Smoking and over-weight are among the risk factors.
      
      At a less life-threatening but very painful level, Maori suffer disproportionately from gout. It has been speculated that this is because generally they eat more shell fish than non-Maori.
      
      Asian Americans’ cancer:
      
      https://www.menshealth.com/health/a39727507/cancer-asian-american-men/
      
      AND
      
      Tongan kidney sufferers:
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/100880041/facing-death-in-tonga-law-student-with-kidney-failure-pleads-to-stay-in-nz
      
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      July 5, 2023 11:52am
- mogg
  
  Progressive racism has all Asians as the same.
  Despite different countries, languages and appearance they are all the same people. It’s only Māori and Pacifica that need to be given special treatment.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:28am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Apropos of recent kiddy fiddling stories coming out of Oranga Tamariki residential homes and about sports coaches, this is simply the same sort of person who used to join the Scouts and Churches doing what they do. These people are attracted to children like flies to rubbish. Anywhere kids are in groups and where one-on-one situations are possible, so a small proportion of adults will be pedophiles.
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July 5, 2023 8:06am
- All_on_Red
  
  Disney is the same.
  Full of Groomers.
  https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/04/12/whistleblower-hundreds-of-disney-employees-have-been-busted-for-child-sex-trafficking-n1588984
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:40am
  - Mike
    
    Was the basement of a pizza parlour involved?
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:27am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Ewwww
      How creepy
      
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      July 5, 2023 12:39pm
      - Ghost
        
        It’s bizarre because he constantly trolls about trump and Jim Jordan, ignores creepy joes behaviour around children and then makes a comment like that about the well reported people arrested from disney.
        
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        July 5, 2023 12:48pm
    - Ghost
      
      What a creepy reply Mike, sounds like you are trying to cover the sexual abuse of children. It’s no secret that a lot of Disney employees have been arrested for child sexual abuse over the years. Sad to see you trying to cover that up as some form of conspiracy story.
      
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      July 5, 2023 12:43pm
      - Mike
        
        All_on_Red has a habit of ascribing pedophilia to people who don’t share his political opinions. He’s only interested in Disney because Florida made that that company a target in a bullshit culture war for daring to question anti-LGBT policies. It’s kind of amusing though, because even All_on_Red’s principal idol, Donald Trump noticed that Ron Meatball’s fight with Disney is a loser’s move.
        
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        July 5, 2023 4:27pm
      - Ghost
        
        No, a number of Disney staff over the years have been arrested for sex crimes with children, this is nothing that hasn’t been greatly reported on in the media. Stop trying to cover up your pathetic post making out this was a conspiracy.
        
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        July 5, 2023 4:38pm
      - Mike
        
        [Mod – child abuse isn’t a joke. Take you trolling elsewhere]
        
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        July 5, 2023 5:11pm
- Inandout
  
  The Pied Piper springs to mind.
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:48am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Damn, I thought it was a clever twist on her name. Short for Jacinfamation. Sounds about right!
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:30am
NeverMindTheBollocks

No word on why we haven’t been maintaining the roads. Could it be that a King’s ransom has been siphoned off to pay for cycleways?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/07/road-safety-expert-blames-lack-of-preventive-maintenance-on-aotearoa-s-massive-pothole-issue.html
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July 5, 2023 8:07am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Of course it has, and the other kings ransom siphoned off to pay for rail! Plus a bit to subsidise coastal shipping.
  
  You wouldn’t want to waste fuel taxes and RUC on maintaining roads would you, Comrade?
  
  It might give citizens the idea that we support private mobility!
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:36am
Lee C

In a bizarre twist of fate, Labour MP Ingrid Leary found herself embroiled in an awkward situation after a gang leader’s call to ‘Vote Labour’. Leary, known for her misplaced adventures, coincidentally stumbled upon a meeting of the notorious Mongrel Mob. With a sheepish grin, she hastily explained her presence, claiming she had left her glasses at home and was entirely oblivious to the ‘optics’ of this ‘mistake’. Critics couldn’t help but wonder if Leary had misplaced her common sense as well. Perhaps she was hoping to secure some unconventional endorsements, like from unicorns or the Loch Ness Monster next?

In a true masterclass of political acrobatics, Leary’s apology served as a reminder that sometimes, the only thing politicians misplace more often than their glasses is their integrity.

Or, more simply, she made a spectacle of herself.
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July 5, 2023 8:09am
- G152
  
  Libor bought them she was just checking the peons
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:11am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Should’ve gone to SpecSavers
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:15am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The irony in all of this is that Harry Tam said at the weekend he’s only encouraging mobsters to give their electorate votes to Labour. He wants them to give their party vote to the Greens who advocate the abolition of prisons.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:33am
  - backster
    
    I wonder why Tam and the Mongrels are snubbing the MAORI Party.
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:15am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The Maori Party sure aren’t snubbing the Mongrel Mob in the Bay of Plenty.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M20ZxxPbU18
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:21am
  - My
    
    Yeah, come on mobster, sell your Chryslers, Rangers, get the clean car rebates and the bros in ya Nissan Leaf.
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:21am
- I remember when
  
  Has she changed her name to “Oh” Leary?
  
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  July 5, 2023 2:10pm
artemisia

So, more inappropriateness emerging at private schools with very expensive fees so assume well off parents. Could there be an underlying ‘follow the money’ theme here?

Some of the details reported look well planned.
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July 5, 2023 8:12am
Matt Long

Well, well, Unilever; the woke sponswr of anti Israel BDS and a slew of ESG and DEI is also a funder of war against the Ukraine.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/03/unilever-named-international-sponsor-of-war-by-ukraine
Other woke companies aiding evil regimes, IBM helping the Nazis track Jews, Google helping the CCP track Chinese citizens and apply their social credit system.
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July 5, 2023 8:13am
- Blog-aholic
  
  And how connected to Blackrock and Vanguard are these corporations?…..
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:15am
  - kowtow
    
    Talking of which , most of the high street banks in the UK signed up to the so called charity Stonewall’s diversity schemes.
    
    Therein the answer to why those with “gender critical” views are having their accounts closed .
    
    Source UK Daily Telegraph.
    
    Be very afraid.
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:08am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      None of this is about ‘diversity’ or perceived injustices. This is deliberate action to destroy society. It can’t be anything else.
      
      There are many theories on the reasons why, but it is undeniable that actions by governments at the direction of outside influences are designed to facilitate the ‘great’ reset.
      
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      July 5, 2023 10:00am
      - kowtow
        
        Yep , I see alot of this as govts are outsourcing power to so called NGO’s etc
        
        They then can deny if it goes bad and take credit if popular.
        
        Either way once again the rule of law, a basic democratic principle is deliberately undermined and ordinary citizens put at risk with no recourse.
        
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        July 5, 2023 10:20am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Who knows, but tgd Labour Party are deeply entrenched in both, Hipkins went to China to meet Shwarb, and Ardern could not wait to meet Shwarb and publicly shared her visits to black rock .
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:42am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    the military industrial complex supports ongoing wars?
    
    colour me shocked!
    
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    July 5, 2023 11:37am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Matt Long – it’s always been the same.
  
  War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most
  profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
  A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of
  war a few people make huge fortunes.
  
  Why don’t those damned oil companies fly their own flags on their personal property—maybe a flag with a gas pump on it?
  Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler, 1937.
  
  https://www.heritage-history.com/site/hclass/secret_societies/ebooks/pdf/butler_racket.pdf
  
  The MiC shareholders are loving every minute of this tragic, avoidable disaster.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:57am
kevn

@Lee C… Would make a great ‘Should have gone Specs Savers’ TV ad.
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July 5, 2023 8:16am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

MMA in children’s prison? Really? Looks like a bitchy fight to me.
I admit I am past it now, buy in my early 20s taking care of those two pussies would not have been a problem.
MMA my left tit.
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July 5, 2023 8:21am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It looks very much like bash the pakeha boy into a pulp.
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Neither know what a good punch is. Dive in, quickly stand on his foot, right whack in the nose, and knocked the f out!
    Nothing degrades a man more than claret running all over the ground.
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:46pm
  - G152
    
    Bazic bullying
    
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    July 5, 2023 3:33pm
- Nickc2
  
  I believe the winner was to receive a box of KFC hence the staff’s involvement. //
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:08am
Ipanema69

So a group of female offenders armed with baseball bats show up at an Otahuhu house at 3.15am according to the herald.

Anyone want to bet that the prime income source for any of these offenders is anything other thab the nz taxpayer.

Keep it classy South Auckland
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July 5, 2023 8:24am
- kowtow
  
  Nah , just enrolling more labour voters surely.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:09am
Ford Prefect

We’ve just had three members of our team all resign and take off for an OE. Not together, but a decision each made individually. All in their mid 20s

After three years of lockdown and scare mongering have the Gen Zs finally saved enough money to get away and have some fun?

Its a shame theyre going but is this not a significant voting block for the rabid left? They won’t be thinking about voting when they’re hung over in London.
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July 5, 2023 8:36am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  the Greens always do well in London!
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:38am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Maybe not this time. Those who were unable to come home during covid won’t forget.
    
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    July 5, 2023 7:51pm
- zombie
  
  Yes they are leaving the country in droves which is a bit rich when you think that their progressive ideas have screwed the country and now they are leaving us to it!
  
  But I digress, my husband cant find a marginally qualified or experienced person in his field under 30 across the whole Wellington region. All employers are saying the same, its off to Aus, Europe the UK in every case.
  
  He’s 69 and wants to retire but the owner of the business he runs freaked when he said he was thinking about retiring.
  
  The scenario in Wellington we are staring at is this. In the last 3 years so many people have been hired on age, identity, ideology that the Govt departments are all on their knees. There are huge skills and leadership gaps which probably also drive the young ones offshore. Over the last 3 years, the Govt sector has pushed out many cis white males over the age of 50 and its led to a real dearth of knowledge and skills.
  
  The people they have promoted are all the most progressive and the most of the places are hell to work in. Meritocracy is a dirty word and its all point scoring and passing the buck. Even the supposedly independent Commissions have pulled back on doing their jobs properly in favour of easy wins or politically approved ‘wins’.
  
  I’m not right wing and have never voted national but unless the right gets in and the Nats/Act coalition straightens things out the country wont survive.
  
  I am not convinced enough people out side of Wellington understand how extremely badly things are going in government. There’s non delivery and then there is complete and utter crisis which is what we are looking at.
  
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  July 5, 2023 5:43pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Yeah, but the cafes are doing just fine
    
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    July 5, 2023 7:53pm
Maggie Pie

I see where Trans-activist Eliana Rubashtin, accused of assaulting womens rights advocate POSIE PARKER at Albert Park, was due to appear in Court yesterday.

Instead, a ‘dudge-alone’ trial has been rescheduled for 20 September.
He/She/It is applying for a Section-147-Dismissal.

Word down the Viaduct is that police intend opposing the application.

Hmmm….we’ll see 🙁
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July 5, 2023 8:37am
- pdm
  
  Maggie – is he/she/it remanded in custody pending trial?
  
  Or does that fit in the stupid question category?
  
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  July 5, 2023 8:50am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Very stupid question pdm!
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:04am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Based on the total bs let off for the nasty, cowardly thug who repeatedly punched a 70 year old woman in the face, Eliana will probably be in line for next year’s ‘NZer of the year’.
  A prestigious award with a tradition of being given to the best of the best in the country….//
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:06am
  - cas
    
    Talking about NZers of the year, I was going to start a campaign to turn Lal as Shaneen Lal has just written a book with a full page picture on the cover. Then I thought he would probably have a full page picture on the back. Allen and Unwin should be ashamed of itself.
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:15am
  - alex Masterley
    
    It seems the chap who punched the 70 year old lady has not been granted diversion. He is to appear in the Auckland District Court in August for some sort of hearing. At least thats what I read in the herald
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:58pm
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      Interesting article Alex – the Herald writer humanised the victim – 71 year old Nana of six, pensioner, mother of three.
      
      Apparently an admin error led to diversion being offered.
      
      Such a change from the Heralds reporting around this. Also, could the police have made this error on such a public case and taken so long to correct it.
      
      Smells to me like something is still to come out of the woodwork around the thug. Might have embarrassed the police and the politicians?
      
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      July 5, 2023 11:40pm
- backster
  
  Three weeks before the election. I wonder whether it will be the Judge or the Media that suppresses all information.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:21am
- zombie
  
  I suspect Eli will get charged but get a slap on the wrist. But she no doubt thinks she will get away with it.
  
  Sadly for her the worm has turned as it is getting close to the election and I think the police have been told to pull back on their pro diversity policing approach.
  
  Apparently, what happenned to the granny basher was the perp was offered Diversion even though the victim strenuously said no to it. In response to the diversion, the victim through a friend kicked up bobsy dai and Leo got involved, the media got involved and then last week, the victim got told that the diversion had been taken off the table because they had made a mistake and got the papers mixed up and had accidentally offered him diversion.
  
  Honest to Gods truth, the media got hold of the diversion story and kickback was being felt so suddenly the police made a mistake.
  
  So I think Coster has had (or has given the hard word) to stay out of the papers so on that basis Poor old Eli (“I have done nothing wrong, its only soup not an assault”) looks to be getting her card marked.
  
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  July 5, 2023 5:25pm
cmm

Yesterday some colleagues and I were discussing how to get stroppy kids off the roof.

Our plan would probably taken 2 minutes – not enough time to find them blankets or order a bucket of KFC.

Shoot the biggest one with a rubber bullet/beanbag round. Ask who wants to be next. Maybe play eenie-meenie-minie-moe.

For the feint of heart, a paintball gun with pepper balls would be a softer option.

Now the only “consequences” these kids have learned is that every time you want KFC you just climb on the roof.
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July 5, 2023 8:39am
- Inandout
  
  cmm, a dose of epsom salts in the food would bring them down quickly.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:01am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    These type of people would just drop it in the gutter.
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:56pm
- RoboRob
  
  Or they could have just not given them food, water and blankets. They would have lasted a few hours at most before coming down or freezing solid and falling off the roof.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:45am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Pepper pellets? Just 10 Herbs and spices to go then?
  
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  July 5, 2023 12:12pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Water cannon. I’m sure the Fire Dept would like some fun.
  
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  July 5, 2023 12:54pm
  - I remember when
    
    Saving that, in case there is another covid lockdown.
    
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    July 5, 2023 2:24pm
  - lifesgood
    
    I can’t believe how the protestors at parliament were treated by bullies and thugs and yet these little scum bags were rewarded with KFC. Absolutely disgusting. They should have water cannoned them off and then locked them up in solitary for a good long while.
    
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    July 5, 2023 3:05pm
- Cassandra
  
  A hose would work. Bloody cold at 3 am and wet.
  
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  July 5, 2023 1:01pm
- G152
  
  Fire hoses
  
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  July 5, 2023 3:35pm
Suze Wainwright

Science teachers seem to be worried about the lack of science in the proposed school curriculum.

Surely the Greens have assured them that any of the current mumbo jumbo is being replaced by the merits of paganism, crystal worshipping and supplication to the Great Green She-goddess
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July 5, 2023 8:42am
- kowtow
  
  Given that physics , chemistry and biology aren’t mentioned in the new Cir, those teachers are probably rightly worried about their future employment prospects and that this is may well be yet another ploy to employ a whole new intake of cough cough new “teachers” with quals relating to as you put it “mumbo jumbo”.
  
  It is entirely possible.
  
  It’s year zero stuff and many other authoritrarian regimes have done similar.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:54am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Have not been out boating/fishing on the harbour for a while (surgery and injury things) I see on the idiot box today an item about snapper with white flesh syndrome. I do remember a similar back in the 70s. When filleting the fish had pockets of mushy flesh. It also did not smell that great. Did not eat it. We thought it was because of an industrial spillage somewhere up the Tamaki river. Anyone else remember this?
Authorities today say it is malnutrition. I thought snapper would be well fed as they will be coming in to breed soon.
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July 5, 2023 8:43am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I’m just wishing the wind would drop off for a day to get out for a feed. Been blowing it’s tits off for weeks now.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:09am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Been the exact opposite in Wellington.
    
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    July 5, 2023 11:10am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Lighter winds will still mean the chop and swell would make it like being in a washing machine. Plus the high tides. All that water has to go somewhere.
    
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    July 5, 2023 1:22pm
- Ruawai
  
  My son caught some white fleshed snapper off the coast of Hot Water Beach this summer so would have thought this is not from malnutrition or industrial spillage. Seems very odd as we have never caught white fleshed snapper in this area in the over 50 years we have been fishing there.
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    By white, the meaning is whiter than normal. I have seen it. First fillet – no good, over the side.
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:59pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Wait for it. Some talking head on the gravy train will pin it on CLIMATE CHANGE! 🤪
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:22pm
Suze Wainwright

Is the National Party’s use of AI for electoral advertising no longer a thing for hand wringing lefties?
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July 5, 2023 8:45am
BeaB

How’s Tory today? Any update on who paid the bills? Were the meals a gift? Has she declared them – or any others? Is anyone checking her mayoral credit card?
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July 5, 2023 8:45am
- kowtow
  
  More to the point ; that restaurant had better watch out .
  
  With all those “complaints” manufactured by Green supporters and all they could find themselves subject to all manner of visits and scrutiny by officials .
  
  That’s the whole point of ;
  
  Don’t you know who I am.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:57am
- goNZ1
  
  who paid for her taxi home – or did she drive herself?
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:52am
- Ruawai
  
  And who she was dining with?
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:14am
Tony Stuart

Interesting piece from Richard Prebble in today’s Herald (paywalled) where he predicts around 22 Labour MP’s will be looking for a new gig after the General Election.

The alarming lapses in ministerial judgment have an explanation: stress. People under stress often make poor decisions.

Commentators read the polls to determine who will be the government. MPs, however, read the polls to determine whether they will have a job.

In September last year, National/Act first went ahead in the polls. Since that date, a third of Labour’s MPs have realised they are going to be ejected.

It’s the curse of a big majority. The bigger the win, the bigger the loss. This election day, at least 22 Labour MPs’ parliamentary careers will end.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/richard-prebble-labour-mps-scared-of-losing-the-best-job-theyll-ever-have/GJDDGAKUQRGDZAIX5NGKDKTJNY/#

Personally, I think Prebble is being a little conservative here. I can see Labour losing up to half of its current 62-seat caucus. They’re going to lose plenty of seats, including one or two that aren’t on journalists radars yet, and it will be slim pickings on the Party List, given that Grant Robertson and Adrian Rurawhe will be handed high list placings. Kieran McAnulty is in for a real scrap with Wairarapa farmer Mike Butterick but might just scrape in on the list, but if Ginny Anderson loses Hutt South, she won’t get a second chance. Nor will Willow-Jean Prime in Northland, Priyanka Radhakrishnan in Maungakiekie or Jo Luxton in Rangitata.
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July 5, 2023 8:56am
- gravedodger
  
  Stop it Tony, you will have me crying and that will be embarrassing, almost as embarrassing as Ingrid will be when “Specsavers” use her misunderstanding as advertising copy.
  Maybe Tui Brewery needs an updated effort as another option.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:18am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Luxton has no show, I even told her to brush up her cv when she magically appeared on my feed that I was following her, Parker, Angry Andy will be worried, and I think Allan will lose her seat after the election but probably won’t be so high on the list, how ever, they will lose many many electorates, so they could be saved, o’Conner snd Anderson will lose, and Labour will lose Napier , that’s three electorates they thought were theirs, some of those Wellington seats will have vote splitting snd May we’ll see long time Labour seats fall
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:50am
  - zombie
    
    Allan wont be out. She is being groomed as a future PM so whatever happens to her she will still be in the top 10 or so.
    
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    July 5, 2023 5:57pm
- Ghost
  
  Luxton is gone. James is doing a good job getting around. If Megan Hands wasn’t selected last time luxton wouldn’t have won
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:13am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    No, if Andrew Falloon hadn’t sent women pick pics, Luxton wouldn’t have won. Even in a safe seat, you can’t change riders just a couple of months out from the election and expect normal business to apply.
    
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    July 5, 2023 12:03pm
    - Ghost
      
      Megan wasn’t liked down here, she was the wrong pick. National should have picked the woman who had a great standing in the community and was responsible for raising the money for the MRA scan. Not some outsider who during the campaign barely came to Timaru.
      
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      July 5, 2023 12:09pm
- zombie
  
  After the Albert Park business, Ginny Anderson doesnt deserve a second chance IMO.
  
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  July 5, 2023 5:55pm
graham

(Posted this last night, but most of you were probably doing something far more interesting than browsing KB 🙂 )

The phrase “rats deserting a sinking ship” leaps to mind …

One of Stuff’s top editors has quit after less than six months in the role, amid a raft of leadership changes at the media company.

Caitlin Cherry was announced by Stuff, with fanfare, as the editor of The Dominion Post in December last year, and she started in the role on February 7.

Today, Bernadette Courtney, Stuff’s newsrooms editor-in-chief, announced to staff: “We are sad to let you know that Caitlin Cherry has resigned as Stuff’s Wellington editor. She has made a huge impact in this role.

Cherry did not wish to comment last week, but sources say she did not seek to apply for a proposed new role that included her existing duties.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/top-editor-quits-after-less-than-six-months-amid-stuff-leadership-changes/EARULQFBO5DH3LZCGMV4TARSEY/
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July 5, 2023 9:02am
- Jack5
  
  Stuff is rallying its stalwarts to cheer it on as the tumbril rolls it toward the State-subsidy guillotine.
  
  The stalwarts include: burlesque enthusiast Verity Johnson, who today seems to claim she is the spokeswoman for “polite Pakeha society”; Siouxsie Wiles, of Covid notoriety; and the mixed-up Joel Maxwell.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:33am
  - goNZ1
    
    as long as you can write anti-Luxon articles Stuff has a job for you !
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:55am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The burly burlesque enthusiast Verity Johnson? The one who leads her articles with the cat-fishing photo? The pommie immigrant who claims to speak for native New Zealand Europeans?
    
    Yeah, nah.
    
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    July 6, 2023 7:25am
- ClanMcleod
  
  @graham – do you think it is possible CEO Sinead Boucher will get the $1 back she invested when she bought it????
  I’m thinking about starting a ‘give a little’ page for her…..poor thing//
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:51am
- zombie
  
  Caitlin Cherry of the let’s decolonise the name of the Dom Post fame. No tears here.
  
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  July 5, 2023 5:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/oamaru-here-we-come/
From Ashburton. 8 min in “We are one” from an Elder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF4L6n-zen8&t=50s
Now the activists were in there, but very well behaved. Why does an Elder have to be there for Maori activists to show respect?
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July 5, 2023 9:08am
redeye

The consensus around the Wellington Mayors ‘do you know who I am’ comment seems to be that she was ‘big-noting’.
I have a different view.
She approached the waiter swinging an empty wine bottle, announced she was the mayor, then said ‘do your thing’.
That sounds very much like she was using her position and power to push a young waiter into breaking the law (ie. serve alcohol to an already intoxicated patron). I’m sure there must be a law against that.
Oh well at least the restaurant hasn’t buckled to the cancel mob.

“Every negative email is like, ‘Oh I’m not going to dine here’, or ‘I was going to bring in my 60-person engagement party here but we we’re not going to do that anymore because of your comments’… and it’s like well, we’re still busy – so who cares? There’s been no meaningful impact.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/wellington-restaurant-unfazed-by-backlash-after-mayor-tory-whanaus-tipsy-evening-out
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July 5, 2023 9:08am
- Colville
  
  There will be plenty of people like myself that will make sure to eat there next time I am in Wellington.
  Good on the staff for standing up to her.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:37am
  - Ghost
    
    The mayor should come out and say, “I screwed up, the restaurant is not to blame, please stop attacking this wellington business”. But that would mean her taking responsibility for her actions and she has failed to do that a number of times now
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:43am
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      You mean admit error, apologise, and call off her flying monkeys?
      
      Bwuhahahaha!
      
      That would involve, maturity, judgement and leadership.
      
      These are not competencies this particular young (sic) wahine Maori is widely known for…
      
      Good and hard Wellington, this one’s on you.
      
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      July 5, 2023 11:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Said it yesterday:
      “Yes I did that, and I am sorry. I was influenced by alcohol and I fucked up. Sorry.” Why deflect and get yourself in more shit? The media are not going to be so kind from now on.
      
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      July 5, 2023 1:10pm
    - zombie
      
      100%
      
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      July 5, 2023 6:00pm
- Matt Long
  
  What a great way to cut the unpleasant jerks from your clientele, they must be wishing the cancel mob follow through.
  More hospitality venues should do this.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:42am
- BeaB
  
  Or perhaps she expected some freebies.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:00am
- backster
  
  I thought she meant,”I’ expect a freebee”.
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:30am
- cmm
  
  It seems they’ve inadvertently created a safe space from the Wellington wankers.
  
  It’s just the place I’d go to eat if I every found myself in Wellington.
  
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  July 5, 2023 12:41pm
- miltonF
  
  Yes. The “do your thing” comment is actually much worse than the “do you know who I am” comment.
  
  Very curious that no-one has asked her to clarify what she meant by this statement.
  
  It appears as though she was trying to use her position to force the staff to break the law. When she didn’t get her way, she walked out without paying.
  
  Totally unacceptable and she should have resigned yesterday.
  
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  July 5, 2023 5:44pm
slightlyrighty

Well, the gummint is trumpeting the pay agreement for Nurses.

If this goes through, the next problem will be doctors, who will be pissed.

A 1st year graduate nurse, who will have incurred a student debt of (on average) $19300, and studies for 3 years, is now likely to be paid at a starting rate of $69,566 plus penal rates.

A 1st year doctor who has studied for 6 years, and has incurred a debt of, on average, $77,000, is now on a starting salary of $65,949, plus penal rates.

Watch this space…
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July 5, 2023 9:14am
- Matt Long
  
  Those are very low pay rates compared with other sectors who didn’t have to have very high marks to even start a course.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:46am
- Waipuk
  
  It’s about the investment paying off.
  
  https://youtube.com/shorts/oQdy0GNq6W0?feature=share
  
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  July 5, 2023 1:00pm
- zombie
  
  Yes it will cause problems but it is a testament to how poorly paid Nurses and Drs are paid in NZ. They are the countries backbone and we pay them so badly they all go overseas. Its a huge amount of money but one we really do need to take on the chin if we want to sort this problem out.
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

It wasn’t me, it wasn’t me.
The left and their lies. There is this internet thingy to uncover the lies, but they still lie.
https://thepatrioticvoice.com/redbloodedconservative/lyin-biden-still-denyin/
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July 5, 2023 9:16am
Scooter

Grant Robertson basically being told to zip it in his interview this morning, finally someone put the boot in, bet he is fuming.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/
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July 5, 2023 9:42am
- Nickc2
  
  Agree! I too heard that interview this morning and came to the same conclusion: Grant Robertson is an arrogant prick, even for a Labour politician.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:50am
  - backster
    
    ZB Newes made up for it though picking out the best bit from Robertson and the least penetrating from Mitchell
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:34am
  - RoboRob
    
    lol. I think GR is the best of the Labour MPs who come on the show, followed closely by Andrew Little. Still an arrogant prick (like the former transport minister), but the best labour have.
    
    Labour are very lucky Mike was away. Mike has been very public and clear about his dislike for Megans flakyness around turning up. I suspect the last time was her final warning, so todays interview would probably have been the last straw.
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:52am
- Inandout
  
  Scooter, yes it was Mike’s fill in who switched Robbos phone connection to hold. The twerp just wouldn’t stop waffling.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:51am
  - Scooter
    
    I think the first time I’ve heard a radio host say they are putting someone on hold, amazing and refreshing. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer// interviewee.
    
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    July 5, 2023 10:29am
I remember when

News media announce an increase in boars as a result of the lockdowns.
Did they spell that right.
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July 5, 2023 9:54am
Matt Long

Reminds me of the old joke; what would you do if you won Lotto?
Pay off my debts.
What about the rest?
They’d have to wait.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/lotto-powerball-how-could-55m-change-the-life-of-a-northlander/ZFXAWGHYFRFFLA5L7BUEDCGEQA/
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July 5, 2023 10:01am
Maggy Wassilieff

I’m not a fan of folks who act as PR agents for Gangs but I think Denis O’Relly is correct when he describes the latest report on NZ Gangs commissioned by the PM’s Chief Science Adviser in these terms:

“It’s hopeless, you might as well piss against the wind.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018897146/can-t-arrest-way-out-of-gang-problem

(from 1:40)
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July 5, 2023 10:14am
Maggy Wassilieff

Karl Du Fresne advocates the defunding of Media and Communication Studies at Universities

There is little about the theory and principles of journalism that can’t be taught in a six-month Polytechnic course. The rest comes with experience. Generations learned it by doing, and served their readers (sorry, “consumers of content”) well. But following the American model, journalism has succumbed to the phenomenon known as credentialism, whereby career opportunities increasingly depend on academic qualifications.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/karl-du-fresne-licence-to-indoctrinate
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July 5, 2023 10:26am
- ClanMcleod
  
  A wonderfully succinct and accurate paragraph. Well said that man. Though to be fair, many ‘careers’ have become credentialed. Politics another classic example. And let’s not even mention the ‘science’™
  
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  July 5, 2023 10:55am
  - zombie
    
    100%. Karl is my go to blogger. Enjoyed him when he was at the Dom Post way back when.
    
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    July 5, 2023 6:06pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Never forget that Journalism school is considered such a safe space for Left Wing activism that Nicky Hager admitted to a bunch of students that he threatened a bunch of journalists with outing them if they ever worked with the Right again.
  
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  July 5, 2023 11:25am
- Mike
  
  And long before Karl du Fresne was born there were no polytechnic journalism courses either. And I would wager that when such courses did appear, there were many superannuated journalists grumbling that fancy polytech courses weren’t needed in their time. Such is the eternal nostalgia of many elderly folks for the ‘good old days’.
  
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  July 5, 2023 4:51pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Yes Mike we need more juvenile idiots running things. Screw maturity.
    
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    July 5, 2023 9:24pm
goNZ1

I sorted when this news came out this morning –
What is believed to be cocaine prompted a brief evacuation of the White House over the weekend.

this cracks me up! what did Hunter or Joe know and when did they know it…
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July 5, 2023 10:59am
Ghost

Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) lost the connection to its main external power line early this morning, forcing it to rely on recently restored back-up power supplies for the electricity it needs for essential nuclear safety and security functions, Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said.

Article
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July 5, 2023 11:25am
- PeterB
  
  Bloody Russians.
  
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  July 5, 2023 12:57pm
  - mawm
    
    That supply comes from Kiev and was turned off by the Ukranians.
    
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    July 5, 2023 5:19pm
Jack5

Tried to go to the Sensible Sentencing Trust web site today, but it’s base site http://www.sst.org.nz was flagged unsafe connection by Chrome and blocked.

Have the gangs got to their site?

[Mod – just checked, message up is

This is the default server vhost

This site’s domain name is either not yet pointed or is still propagating. Propagation may take up to 72 hours. Please check back later.]
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July 5, 2023 11:25am
Maggie Pie

One of the girls at tennis reckoned that the Meadowbank Countdown was still selling Hot X Buns so thought I’d head out there to see. Accidentally ended up at a Momgrel Mob hui by mistake.
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July 5, 2023 11:34am
- Ghost
  
  Did you renew your membership by mistake?
  
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  July 5, 2023 12:32pm
- zombie
  
  LOL
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:07pm
Ghost

Mmmmmm, popcorn time

Investigative journalist Leslie Kean weighs in on new claims surrounding UFOs and the U.S. government

YouTube
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July 5, 2023 12:31pm
- Mike
  
  A rational take on this claim and sensational claims in general:
  https://benburgis.substack.com/p/david-hume-vs-the-ufo-whistleblower
  Basically, we all know that ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence’ and the ‘whistleblower’ provides no evidence beyond his own story. It comes down simply to his credibility alone.
  
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  July 5, 2023 4:32pm
  - zombie
    
    On top of that Mike is “Occam’s Razor’ and I could put forward 3 maybe 4 explanations for what is going on here and Aliens, whilst not totally implausible would be last on my list as being the least likely.
    
    So yes no evidence and no basis in Occam’s Razor (Common Sense) although it is academically intriguing but if true at all, likely to be fairly damaging to life on earth (psychologically, if nothing else).
    
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    July 5, 2023 6:21pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      I reckon they’re here already and seeding us by supplying ChatGPT.
      
      I mean, what other explanation could there be?
      
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      July 5, 2023 8:16pm
k1w1

The comments on Stuff’s article about the $5b additional blowout are entertaining. 95%+ scathing of Labour, Robertson etc. I’m almost starting to think it will be a wipe out come October and the polls are rubbish.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132483224/government-debt-now-5b-above-budget-forecast-as-accounts-continue-to-disappoint
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July 5, 2023 12:51pm
Maggie Pie

OMG. What’s happened to poor ol’ Harry Tam?
Looks to have aged about 20 years in the last 12 months 🙁

Check out the latest content from the Horrids senoir writer Derek Chang…..

https://nzherald.co.nz/author/derek-cheng/
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July 5, 2023 1:06pm
- zombie
  
  Maybe Labour have decided to pull back on the funding of cultural reports?
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:23pm
Bobba Fret

“There are now six stains: Nash. Whaitiri. Tinetti. Wood. Allan. Leary.”
Even Lloyd Burr losing faith in Labour party.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-s-woes-ill-discipline-arrogance-or-incompetence/ar-AA1dojc2?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=e646fc9864a44367b9c89787040b4ab9&ei=10
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July 5, 2023 1:07pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  That’s just under Hipkins. There are many more stains if you include Jacinda’s time.
  
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  July 5, 2023 3:41pm
graham

Just for a change, some positive news.

Diversion over Posie Parker rally alleged assault withdrawn by police, man heading back to court

A police diversion application for a man charged after an assault of a pensioner at the Posie Parker rally in March has been withdrawn and the case is heading back to court.

The Herald can reveal the 20-year-old’s case will be reviewed in the Auckland District Court next month. He’s pleaded not guilty after a 71-year-old nana of six was allegedly assaulted at Albert Park.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/diversion-over-posie-parker-rally-assault-a-withdrawn-by-police-man-heading-back-to-court/EIE5INXYPNBEJA57PJERZMW3DA/
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July 5, 2023 1:09pm
Bridgenag

The UN’s Digital First Responders – or The UN’s Virtual Brownshirts?

MATTIAS DESMET“But the greatest danger to humanity is not a virus, nor the climate, nor even poverty. The greatest danger to humanity lies in ideological blindness and fanaticism. Man ceases to be human when he becomes so convinced of his own ideas that he wants to forbid those of the other.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/mattiasdesmet/p/the-uns-digital-first-responders?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Thought I had posted early but can’t seem to find it
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July 5, 2023 1:43pm
- rouppe
  
  Except that’s exactly what these UN chaps want to do – they have become so convinced of their own ideas that they want to forbid those of the [rest of us].”
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:06pm
Chuck Bird

Did anyone else hear Chippy on Th Country?

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-the-country-28628176/

He claims that unless our government whoever leads it taxes farmers for emissions including methane countries will not buy our farm produce.

I say that is BS. What do others think?
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July 5, 2023 2:46pm
- kowtow
  
  His logic is utter shite.
  
  Goes to China , our biggest trading “partner” and says our markets insist on non emitting whatever produce .
  
  Er , the Chinese aren’t exactly the most of demanding when it comes to “show me your sustainabilty” are they …….
  
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  July 5, 2023 2:55pm
- I remember when
  
  Chuck Bird:
  Like all unknowns, to date it is largely a matter of opinion, but we will be vulnerable to both governmental and social media actions.
  How much risk can we afford to take?
  Greens, Greenpeace, Legasea, Safe, etc.
  
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  July 5, 2023 3:10pm
- mandk
  
  It’s a diversionary argument to justify the implementation of a policy that will destroy NZ businesses and communities, while also increasing carbon emissions at global level.
  
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  July 5, 2023 3:27pm
- Nickc2
  
  He’s full of shit!
  China is our predominant trading partner and they don’t believe in this BS and there’s been no utterances from them about this matter AFIK.
  I haven’t heard anything from the Australians about this crap and they are leading us in establishing trading partners.
  BTW, Aust is rapidly making inroads into trade agreements with India, and AFIK, India’s not likely to impose any restrictions with regard to Methane reduction.
  Hipkins, in your time remaining as PM, extract your head from the Green Party’s arses and govern the country in the best interests of its population, not your minor political partner’s ideologies.
  Oh, and try and tell the truth while you’re doing it!
  
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  July 5, 2023 3:50pm
- miltonF
  
  I think Hipkins is taking us for fools. I don’t blame him, as probably half of the country would believe it due to their brainwashing.
  
  He’s been over in China setting up trade deals FFS. WE, yes US, New Zealanders, buy tons of products from China. They are not exactly known as an eco friendly country.
  
  Why does he think other countries care about methane/CO2/pollution/animal rights etc etc when his own government doesn’t even give a damn and is actively encouraging us to import even more of said products.
  
  The shame of hypocrisy! What a bloody loser our PM is.
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:08pm
- Matt Long
  
  Tim Grosser made the same claim a decade ago, when I challenged him on what research the government had done to prove this he replied with generalisations, making it pretty clear there was no research to back government policy.
  Looking back it’s amazing the damage done to the agricultural industries by Key’s government and the current crop of clowns.
  Dairy farmers I talk to are very disillusioned and tired of the endless government crap.
  
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  July 5, 2023 7:18pm
I remember when

Dr John Campbell’s announces studies showing world-wide increase in cases of Type 1 Diabetes in U-19 year-olds.
During pandemic 42 studies, involving 102,984 participants.
In Year 1 of pandemic (2020) number of new cases increased by 14%.
This increased to 27% in Year 2 (2021).
Results for following years not yet available.
For Europe there has been a year-on-year increase of 3-4% prior to pandemic, so numbers have been increasing.
Article is from JAMA.
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July 5, 2023 2:58pm
- miltonF
  
  I saw that. Quite concerning. Type two diabetes is one thing..but type 1. Hard to explain as typically due to genetic factors.
  
  I guess it’s just a coincidence that we forced an experimental gene therapy onto the kids.
  
  Must be another coincidence that this will create millions of life long customers for pharmaceutical companies.
  
  The public need to wake up, and fast.
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:16pm
- zombie
  
  I occasionally watch JC on YouTube. I didnt see this but it sounds about right if you consider that Type 1 Diabetes is an auto immune condition (I think that’s correct) so Covid screws the immune system badly by overloading it? (and that’s without considering what the vaccines may have done). Long Covid is evidence of this.
  
  Interestingly I watched something the other day by a famous modern ‘psychic’ who I dont believe is a psychic more an absorber ans analyser of info (I have this trait also to an extent) so I was listening yadda, yadda thinking yeah, analytically I can see that.
  
  The only thing he said that I hadn’t already come to myself was -“I have a sense something else Covid related is coming”. Basically he said because of the considerable immune system effects, he believes that with repeated exposure to Covid, that some other subset illness related to auto immune wil likely emerge. He described it as a subset of an illness like Shingles are to ChickenPox. And I have to say, analysing it a bit more I think he may be right. He said it wouldnt be Long Covid which we already have. So food for thought.
  
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  July 5, 2023 6:36pm
Libertarians are right

Justices Thomas and Alito re race-based medical care (Case denied as was no longer relevant):

Statement of JUSTICE ALITO, with whom JUSTICE THOMAS joins, respecting the denial of certiorari.

“I write to note that this case involves an issue of ongoing importance: whether the Equal Protection Clause permits governments to use race or ethnicity as a proxy for health risk and therefore “prioritize the treatment of patients” on that basis.”

“the State’s guidance specified that “ ‘[n]onwhite race or Hispanic/Latino ethnicity should be considered a risk factor’” when prioritizing patients. The State justified the use of race and ethnicity as proxies for health risk by appealing to “‘longstanding systemic health and social inequities.’””.

“As we have stated many times and have recently reaffirmed, the Equal Protection Clause places a “daunting” obstacle in the way of any government seeking to allocate benefits or burdens based on race or ethnicity, typically giving way only when the measure in question is “ ‘narrowly tailored’ ”—that is, “ ‘necessary’ ”—to “remediat[e] specific, identified instances of past discrimination that violated the Constitution or a statute.” Therefore, government actors may not provide or withhold services based on race or ethnicity as a response to generalized discrimination or as a convenient or rough proxy for another trait that the government believes to be “‘characteristic’” of a racial or ethnic group.”

“Under that precedent, New York’s general reference to “longstanding systemic health and social inequities” would not have sufficed to allow the State to deny a person medical treatment simply because that person is viewed by the State as being a member of the wrong racial or ethnic group. The shortage at issue in this case appears, thankfully, to have concluded. But in the event that any government again resorts to racial or ethnic classifications to ration medical treatment, there would be a very strong case for prompt review by this Court.”

I wish we had people with that level of common sense on this subject.

[Mod – please provide links with your posts of where you have taken it from]
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July 5, 2023 3:55pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Sorry, from Legal Insurrection but directly from the US Supreme Court:
  
  https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/07/alito-and-thomas-government-resorting-to-racial-or-ethnic-classifications-to-ration-medical-treatment-would-be-a-very-strong-case-for-prompt-review-by-this-court/
  
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  July 5, 2023 4:27pm
Ghost

Oh I was right, Hunter did drop his white powder

WASHINGTON, July 4 (Reuters) – A white powder found inside the White House late on Sunday was identified by Washington’s fire department and emergency services as cocaine, a source familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.

The source said the powder was found in the West Wing, but gave no further details.

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July 5, 2023 4:05pm
- All_on_Red
  
  It was found in the Library, which is in Joes Private residence.
  He does have other members of his family living there too (Grand daughter?).
  No comment from Hunter yet.
  
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  July 5, 2023 7:04pm
Swifty

A defence of racial equity in the NZ health system:

https://e-tangata.co.nz/comment-and-analysis/maxine-ronald-why-do-we-have-to-keep-explaining-the-ethnicity-gap/

I remain unmoved.
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July 5, 2023 5:14pm
Swifty

“There are two sexes, no genders and infinite personalities.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qLtd6NhxFbc
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July 5, 2023 5:46pm
Swifty

Kathleen Stock speaks at the Oxford Union:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nuR_yuDqOXw

Recommended.
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July 5, 2023 6:10pm
Nickc2

NEWS FLASH
Don Trump Jr denied a visa to visit Aust!
There goes the Submarine deal?
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July 5, 2023 7:38pm
Ghost

Bloody hell

A woman is recovering in hospital after being attacked at her South Auckland home in the middle of the night by a group of up to 10 women wielding bats.

Police are investigating the home invasion and whether the woman is known to the group of female offenders who also smashed up the property.

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July 5, 2023 7:39pm
Ghost

The potential offer for police diversion application for the man charged after an assault of a pensioner at the Posie Parker rally in March was an administrative error and has been withdrawn.

And police have confirmed the man involved is now set for another court date.

The Herald can reveal the 20-year-old’s case will be reviewed in the Auckland District Court next month. He’s pleaded not guilty after a 71-year-old nana of six was allegedly assaulted at Albert Park.

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July 5, 2023 7:48pm
Nickc2

Trump Jr Visa to Aust has subsequently been approved.
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July 5, 2023 7:54pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Kind of a show trial lite it would appear. Putting those not onboard the gravy train on notice with the woke fascists.
  
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  July 5, 2023 9:34pm
NZer In Exile

Think about the corporate surveillance world we now live in.

Just take your mobile phone. Big tech is collecting extremely personal data on you 24/7. It’s listening to you and those in the background, wherever you are. It most likely has collected your face print and your fingerprints together with a voice-print and the unique idiosyncrasies of the way you type. If you turn the phone off, the phone is secretly still active as a bluetooth-tile type locator. They collect where you are, who you communicate with, what you type, what you search, your banking and credit card info, and on and on the list goes.

And why all this dystopian madness? So advertisers can try to push yet more crap on you that you wouldn’t ordinarily be interested in.

And we just sit back and accept this.
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July 5, 2023 10:23pm
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  Leave your phone at home. It’s very liberating.
  
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