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krazykiwi

A book entitled “How Authorities Have Lied to Me” would be a poor seller. Not because the ample content wasn’t concerning, but more for the fact the book would be outdated immediately on publication as evidence of further lies came to light the following day. This comment highlights one of those lies, and it relates to the notion of so-called ‘hot’ vaccine batches which I’ve followed for a while.

Throughout the carefully stage-managed pandemic we were fed the narrative that the amazing, novel vaccines would save humanity. That they were Safe and Effective™, and everyone must take them because reasons. Against that backdrop, researchers in Denmark have turned up a rather alarming discovery: The EU vaccine batches fell into three distinct harm/injury groups : zero adverse events(yellow; amazing!), 1 adverse event in every 400 doses(green; bad), and 1 adverse event in every 10 doses(blue; extinction-level bad).

These are statistically implausible variances and suggest that while two sets of batches were formulations of differing toxicities, the other set of batches, accounting for 30% of all plunged shoulders and 0% of adverse reactions, contained placebo doses. Given what we know about Pfizer and BioNTech (The Bill Gates ‘lucky timing’ 1000% return on investment company) it is not surprising that they would use the vast public deployment of their product as a testing ground. Billions of unwitting human lab rats, some lucky to get saline, others not so lucky.

But here is the bit that really baked my noodle. Researchers uncovered that the German government conducted almost no pre-rollout quality control testing on the zero risk batches, but full quality control testing on the harmful batches. Think about that for a minute. It is difficult to escape the conclusion that their government knew in advance which batches were placebos, and which were not, using this information to not waste time looking for manufacturing imperfections in the saline batches. Robert Kogon has the full background on this story.

This type of malfeasance is why I now choose to disbelieve anything I’m told by public officials generally, and health authorities specifically, until such time as I have tested the veracity of their claims though independent sources. The more alarming the claim, and the more urgent/serious the response expected from me, the more I distrust the assertion.

At one time curiosity killed the cat. Curiosity now keeps this cat alive, and sane.
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July 1, 2023 8:00am
- Simon
  
  NZ govt and political establishment just blindly accepted orders from global bodies on the lockdowns and the garbage jaxx. NZ govt turned feral on anyone who questioned the jaxx. Brain washed a substantial number of New Zealanders to turn on the unjaxxed and those who questioned the mandates.
  
  So many disgraced themselves and NZ.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:02am
  - coge
    
    Remember this when you cast your ballots.
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:04am
    - Mark Hanley
      
      Too late for ballots to save us Coge, the damage is done and the labour hierarchy either have or will run off with your money.
      
      The HARD questions KBers must ask themselves…
      
      What is the point of highlighting the same issues every week?
      
      How do KBers move from repeating problems ad nauseum to providing and implementing solutions?
      
      Suggestions…
      
      Contact your local National/Act candidate and ask them what you can do to help their campaigns.
      
      Meet up with “change the government” KBers in your area to pool talent and resources.
      
      Donate your time and or money to the political party of your choice.
      
      Do not waste your vote on any party other than National and/or ACT.
      
      Advocate for a change to our parliamentary system which prevents corrupt MPs from putting our money into their back pockets again (Citizen’s referenda is my preferred solution).
      
      Insist that Ashley Bloomfield, Grant Robertson, Chris Hipkins, and Jacinda Adern are investigated for lying to our fine nation about medsafe’s report on the safety and efficacy of the MRNA jab.
      
      Insist on a forensic audit of all government spending and an investigation into the wealth and sources of income of the Labour Hierarchy
      
      There is a reason the Labour Hierarchy poisoned an entire nation, effectively killing tens of thousands of Kiwis.
      
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      July 1, 2023 12:23pm
      - mawm
        
        “Contact your local National/Act candidate and ask them what you can do to help their campaigns.”
        
        Why should I? They have aided and abetted this travesty, they have not acknowledged that it was wrong, they have not acknowledged the injured and the families of the dead and, last but not least, they are going along with the sham investigation into the covid response thus ensuring that those responsible are not prosecuted. They do not represent me and I can imagine at least 30% of New Zealanders, although there are those who will vote for either as they are not Labour.
        
        How hard can it be to acknowledge that what was done was wrong and promise to legislate that never again will New Zealand citizens have to endure this attack on bodily autonomy and individual sovereignty? I have my suspicions as to why.
        
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        July 1, 2023 1:06pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Mawn. Reasons to support act and national…
        
        Neither act nor national were responsible for NZs covid response. Adern and labour were
        
        Neither Luxon nor seymour profited from poisoning a nation. Adern and her pals did.
        
        I’d be very surprised if national or act were givn the medsafe report to read by the most open and transperant government ever.
        
        I sought MRNA advice from a senior Dr who also advises the national party and he told me to get the jab.
        
        And most importantly of all, if you’d like to see the perpetrators of NZs covid response crime held to justice, national and act are your only chance.
        
        National and act will only take action against the NZ covid fraudsters if enough people like you kick up a stink.
        
        Whinging on kiwiblog, holding everyone responsible for Adern and labours actions, and taking an idealistic approach will achieve nothing!
        
        And besides, after our last exchange, I pointed out the policies you champion are Nationals policies so I thought you’d have gone blue by now.
        
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        July 1, 2023 3:51pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Mark Hanley – here’s an idea, why don’t National make a public statement stating they will “advocate for a change to our parliamentary system which prevents corrupt MPs from putting our money into their back pockets again (Citizen’s referenda is my preferred solution).
        
        Insist that Ashley Bloomfield, Grant Robertson, Chris Hipkins, and Jacinda Adern are investigated for lying to our fine nation about medsafe’s report on the safety and efficacy of the MRNA jab.
        
        Insist on a forensic audit of all government spending and an investigation into the wealth and sources of income of the Labour Hierarchy”
        
        We voters can’t do those things, those in power can. Talk to you National pals. If they do this they’ve got my vote.
        
        Not sure about Act. Seymour is still claiming the vaccines didn’t kill anyone, COVID did. Even the MoH admit at least 5 that were probably vax deaths.
        I won’t be voting for anyone making statements like Seymour is.
        
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        July 1, 2023 4:24pm
      - mawm
        
        Mark – thank you for a respectful reply. There are others who would not be so.
        
        I generally follow up on my posts and when you asked what I would do I checked up on my reply and there was none. BTW – not all I suggested is anywhere near what “centre-left” National would do.
        
        I cannot imagine that the leader of the opposition would go along with something like curtailing the public’s right to peaceful protest (which it was) without being fully informed and having questioned the premise. If Luxon and Seymour did without that then they are both fools and I would not want them to get anywhere near premiership of a country I live in.
        
        I suggest that the “senior” doctor who advises the National Party did not do his homework. Any doctor knows that medications, especially new technology, needs to be thoroughly tested before generalised public roll out (this was not), he should have known about the existing pandemic plan put in place for such an occasion while further knowledge was accumulated, that ordinary surgical masks are used for splash protection and to prevent bacterial contamination of surgical wounds, and even the most superficial reading into respiratory viral pandemics would have exposed the fraud being imposed on us. His advice was not good.
        
        The fact that neither Luxon nor Seymour will address the greatest attack on our freedom ever and the harm caused by the response to Covid, even at this late stage, speaks volumes.
        
        I have always voted Nat or Nat/ACT (I live in Seymour’s electorate) but I feel a great disappointment in and anger towards them because of their failure in the greatest challenge they are ever likely to face . The least they could do is address it.
        
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        July 1, 2023 4:59pm
    - Mark Hanley
      
      MAWN, there is no shhame in being a closet national supporter. My post below to jog your memory…
      
      Well mark – In any order –
      *cheap power is a start so abandon the highly ruinous climate scam.
      Electrify NZ The next National Government will cut red tape to drive a surge of investment in renewable electricity generation so New Zealand can double its supply of affordable, clean energy and become a lower emissions economy. NB: Hydro I clean renewable energy.
      
      * Tell the UN to get stuffed as far as the migration compact is concerned.
      National Party leader Simon Bridges said if his party was in government, it would pull out of the compact because of its potential to restrict New Zealand’s ability to set its own migration and foreign policy.
      
      Stop paying useless drones to sit at home and smoke weed.
      National’s policy: Sanctions and incentives
      Young Jobseekers who fail to undertake agreed activities in their plan will face sanctions from MSD, such as money management or benefit reductions. To assist community providers in reducing long-term benefit dependency, National will also introduce a bonus payment of $1000 for under 25-year-olds who have been on the Jobseeker benefit for longer than a year, who find work and remain off benefit for 12 months.
      
      * Allow a fully capitalist system with minimal government interference and reduce taxes to about 25%.
      – Are you advocating stopping pension payments?
      Stop providing lifelong housing to those who feel entitled to it.
      National: In 2013, the National-led government introduced reviewable tenancies through the introduction of Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Act 2013. The ethos behind this policy was that social housing should be available for those in highest need, for the duration of that need. This superseded the earlier ‘state home for life’ policy introduced from around the 1950s.
      The reviewable tenancies process was designed to assess existing tenancies against criteria relating to affordability, accessibility and sustainability, and to shift households deemed ineligible for social housing into private housing, with reviews to occur at least every 3 years.
      
      You cannot do anything that Labour cannot undo.
      
      * Reduce the Public sector by introducing performance goals ….. and get rid of those who do not achieve them. Simple.
      
      16 March 2012: The National-led Government has set 10 challenging results for the public sector to achieve over the next five years. Ministers and a public sector chief executive have been appointed to lead each result and will be accountable for demonstrating real progress against his or her result.
      
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      July 2, 2023 7:50am
      - mawm
        
        Mark
        
        – abandon the climate scam – National will keep it a pursue the ruinous renewable energy scam
        
        -Bridges said he’d abandon the Migration Compact but he’s gone and Luxon is nowhere on this
        
        -Welfare – so Luxon will go softly-softly on this…. and effect no change. Nothing but an absolute change in direction will achieve anything.
        
        – no I’m not advocating stopping pension payments but the age and possibly means testing has to be gradually introduced.
        
        – Wait with bated breath for any change to Housing NZ and the civil service.
        
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        July 2, 2023 9:05am
      - Mark Hanley
        
        MAWN. If your basis for criticizing a Party is that they will not do any of the things the say they will do, then you are in a hopeless position my friend.
        
        So instead, do you then vote for a party with the worst policies (like racial privilege) because they will not carry out any of the promises they made?
        
        Or vote for a party/leader which publishes a lot of policies and a fully costed budget, but has a track record of one successful piece of legislation (supported by a referendum ) in 9 years in the hope that next time will be different?
        
        Or do you vote for a charlatan WHO FIRST ENTERED PARLIAMENT IN 1979 in the hope that this time he will finally get rid of the maori seats?
        
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        July 2, 2023 11:30am
    - Mark Hanley
      
      MAWN and Clan. What is the point of highlighting the same issues every week?
      
      How do KBers move from repeating problems ad nauseum to providing and implementing solutions?
      
      Idealistic standoffs and telling us who you will not vote for will achieve nothing.
      
      Your best bet in politics/voting/and often life is to choose the least worse option.
      
      Clan, My reading of the situation is National are being very careful to not give anything the despicable NZ media can latch on to.
      
      I can’t imagine vilifying Adern over covid will draw the all important (deluded, insular, and not so bright) middle class female back to National.
      
      Whilst I agree with the issue you raise daily on KB. Once you raise the issues, repeating them provides diminishing returns.
      
      Using your time and effort to devise solutions and to encourage change will bring much better results including satisfaction and happiness.
      
      Your only chance of a full covid review with accompanying consequences is to ensure national and act get strong support.
      
      Whilst there is no guarantee nat / act will take action. I asked Hyde and Garrett here on KB for their solutions to Adern’s lies and self enrichment and their resulting silence was deafening.
      
      There is certainty none of the minor parties will get into parliament and even if they do their influence will be zero.
      
      And there is certainty that the Labour Party / Greens / Maori Party maintaining power will ruin our country once and for all.
      
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      July 2, 2023 8:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Now you know why she ran. “Safe and Effective” How many times was that repeated? The chinese whispers started and she got the heeby Jeebies.
  Off like a Jew’s foreskin. Yeah OK Mods. No offence to the Jewish People, it just means very quick.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:16am
- ClanMcleod
  
  @krazykiwi – the evidence that these experimental jabs are anything but safe and effective is now coming in a torrent.
  
  Contaminated vaccines – how much longer can the ‘safe and effective’ narrative survive?
  
  Dr Sucharit Bhakdi was one of the first to speak out against lockdowns, masks and the rushed ‘vaccine’. In this interview in from April he:
  
  ….claims in a study published in April that the mRNA Covid vaccines are contaminated with DNA at levels capable of causing sustained inflammation, and with potential for becoming permanently integrated in the cell nucleus.
  
  It’s quite an academic post, but the main theme is the danger of DNA getting into the system using the mRNA as a back door of sorts.
  
  ‘Bacterial DNA that gets into your body will never survive. It will never get into your cells. However, if it is packaged as the mRNA is being packaged – and this is the big difference, it has never been done before – then you are in for a really bad time, because the packaged DNA will reach your cells from top to bottom, head to foot.’
  
  Blood cells and cells lining the blood vessel walls will be the first to be affected, which Bhakdi believes is why there have been so many heart problems and clotting disorders following the jabs.
  
  https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/contaminated-vaccines-how-much-longer-can-the-safe-and-effective-narrative-survive/
  
  This isn’t a slam dunk, but it’s yet more evidence (if it was needed) that these jabs aren’t remotely close to being safe and effective. That they should be removed from market with immediate effect and that a proper and thorough investigation takes place.
  
  In NZ? Get your booster……we are led by morons.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:35am
  - Master Mariner
    
    https://iea.org.uk/media/lockdowns-were-a-costly-failure-finds-new-iea-book/
    
    “COVID-19 lockdowns were “a global policy failure of gigantic proportions,” according to this peer-reviewed new academic study. The draconian policy failed to significantly reduce deaths while imposing substantial social, cultural, and economic costs.”
    
    Could not agree more, Now time for the consequences.
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:43am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Master Mariner – none of the interventions resulted in a positive outcome. Masks, lockdowns, mandates, passports and vaccines were all hugely expensive wastes of time that caused more harm than good.
      
      Every one of them. There is nothing positive that can be said about any of the responses by the NZ government, along with most other governments. With the exception of Sweden and possibly the authorities in Uttar Pradesh.
      
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      July 1, 2023 9:59am
      - Che Guava
        
        Most people have a naive assumption that the powerful (whether the public faces of the politicians or that more opaque class who sponsor and control politicians using their vast wealth and influence) have the non-powerful’s best interests at heart. Because this is the assumption, the non-powerful usually do what they are told by Power. The reality is that Power hates us, or at the very best, they are indifferent to us. That is the lesson from Covidmania.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:25am
      - Mark Hanley
        
        6 years ago Che, i would have read your post and placed in the extremist column -> to be ignored.
        
        Fast forward to today and unfortunately your post is a fair reflection of the actions of our current government.
        
        The question is what action can you/I take today to ensure we’re not all complaining about the same problems post the next election,
        
        and more importantly after the election in 9 to (hopefully) 12 years,
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:31pm
      - mawm
        
        Clan – and every one of those interventions were not incorporated into any first world country’s pandemic plans. Three more things that stick out were active suppression of treatment (HCQ, Ivermectin, etc), stopping antibody testing for covid and encouragement (by Fauci) not to perform autopsies.
        
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        July 1, 2023 1:13pm
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      Not only were they a failure, but they (lockdowns) simply should never have been allowed. It should not be possible for politicians to decide for us that we are no longer free.
      i.e. free to travel, free to gather, free to speak, free to protest – you know, all those things ‘free’ people do.
      
      As shown by what their efforts have done to us, they (politicians) simply aren’t up to the job, and (as usual) the consequences of such draconian measures weren’t worth the alleged benefits we were told we were going to get.
      
      If I come across as a little bit bitter and twisted, you’ve judged things about right.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:33am
      - Che Guava
        
        This isn’t the first posting of this quote, by Frank Zappa hit the bullseye with this observation about the illusory nature of freedom:
        
        “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
        
        In other words, it serves the interests of Power for the people to believe that they are truly free, when in reality it is a facade that will be removed when it has served its purpose.
        
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        July 1, 2023 11:31am
      - stiff cheese
        
        @Che,
        One of the ‘curtains’ they like to pull across themselves is ‘philanthropy’ . . . And giving away a miserly 0.1 percent of their net worth every year, is a cheap way to do it….
        
        Meanwhile, they can advocate for policies that benefit themselves, primarily . . that’s their real concern, as ever.
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:33pm
      - cjn
        
        Even today, I, as an unvaccinated non-person cannot join an old folks 8 day tour of New Zealand. The firm will not accept my money. I am, as far as I know, the only person in this retirement village who has not caught covid or the flu or taken to my bed with a fever. Woe is me!! The decision not to be jabbed was entirely political but I have never regretted it.
        
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        July 1, 2023 8:16pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        cjn, that’s pathetic. Even more pathetic: that someone downticked your post.
        
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        July 2, 2023 1:46am
  - surfing
    
    Good conspiracy theorists such as yourself are woke to the fact that reputable sources of information have been paid off by Bill Gates through his 3G profits :), thus explaining your links to dodgy.com etc…
    
    Keep it up though, your delusional fantasies are light entertainment and a reminder that the woke conspiracy community is alive and kicking.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:54am
    - Che Guava
      
      Just close your eyes and your mind and it will all be OK. I mean, what’s the alternative? Accepting the way things actually are and feeling disturbed? Unthinkable.
      
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      July 1, 2023 11:34am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      We’re up to 5g. Keep up.
      
      Anyway, remind me which conspiracy theories you’re referring to. All my old ones came true…..
      
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      July 1, 2023 11:46am
  - stiff cheese
    
    Thanks @Clan, it was interesting to get his take on the numbers involved:
    
    “It may help to know some of the numbers here. We are dealing with over 40trillion RNAs that are injected with the Moderna
    shot, with 100 micrograms. And you’ve got about 30trillion cells. And probably each one of those RNAs makes more than one
    protein; it might make 10, 100, a thousand – we don’t know. This is a very, very large dose.”
    
    Dr Bhakdi was one of two experts whose papers I read in 2021, when I wanted to know why the COVID vaccines were ‘different’ from all others I’d had.
    The other author was Dr Stephanie Seneff.
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:51am
  - paulscott
    
    Bill of rights
    
    Paul Scott // Christchurch // [Mod – removed your email]// 01 July
    
    To Ted Johnson >>BILL of RIGHTS and Medical freedom
    Thanks Ted, for this reminder email on the primary importance of the BOR in the lives of all citizens of the [ previous ] free world.
    I am presently in Bangkok, and I am very aware of the saying > that to really know your own country you have to view it from abroad, by race-based maladies, gender and other issues of dysphoria. and socialism and totalitarianism generally.<
    Both Justice Palmer and Justice Cooke have shown clearly that the Bill of Rights is putty in their hands and belief systems .
    
    Most important is the emerging power sought and conferred on psychopath personalities at WHO, subject to UN .
    
    Tigray terrorist Tedros has form as being involved in the genocide of the Amhara people in Ethiopia from 1997 to 2010.
    
    My research on the Tigray terrorist is based on reports from Ethiopia.
    Bill Gates is a eugenicist with form in India and Africa. and now the bioweapon vaxxine against the so-called Covid 19 syndrome.
    
    Christopher Luxon appears entirely ignorant, or casual toward totalitarian World Governments events.
    His counterparts in Labour-Green so disturbingly faithful to coming events the situation merits national fury and panic.
    
    I thank you for your attention to the Bill of Rights. We are in great danger
    
    Sincerely Paul Scott
    
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    July 1, 2023 5:59pm
- 2ic
  
  @krazykiwi
  I watched a video about 18 months ago by former Pfizer VP Mike Yeadon comparing serious adverse events from the Covid vaccines to flu vaccines, and highlighting the alarming dangerous covid vaccine batches.
  
  For full context, watch this video from the 50 minute mark for 10 minutes or so:
  
  Dr. Mike Yeadon | Session 86: The Fog Is Lifting
  https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigative-Committee:5/Mike-Session-86-en:0
  
  These are the 2 charts from the video that say it all really:
  
  Flu Vaccines: Consistent product across many manufacturers, lots, years, only 2 outliers
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nrtXHtxGoOQ03aeUiECVK1yqHRKTOGug/view
  
  Covid Vaccines: Does this look like the same consistent product by manufacturer and lot?
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/166cS-LmOdMlV11qvAfFQsOo0VBHuxlzM/view
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:12am
  - KH
    
    Maybe David Farrer could put up a daily post called “Deep Vaccine Discussions”.
    For those deeply interested, it would be a place to go.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:27am
    - Ghost
      
      Or people could just ignore discussions that don’t interest them.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:37am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Or maybe you could start your own blog, doing exactly what you suggest DPF should do.
      
      It’s HIS blog, so HE gets to choose the content. And the fact that it’s still NZ’s #1 political blog after almost 20 years suggests he’s doing something right.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:52am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      It’s called ‘General Debate’. I didn’t see any notices saying certain topics weren’t permitted.
      
      Maybe you could start a thread that’s of more interest to you and see how much response you get? Give it a shot, I’m sure you’ve got plenty of wonderful topics to discuss.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:58am
      - KH
        
        Nobody suggested stopping the vaccine posters anywhere
        A separate section was a positive suggestion they might enjoy.
        
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        July 2, 2023 9:06am
    - Piniwi
      
      Thanks KH as it is currently trashing General Debate all too frequently when there so many much more important issues being neglected. Just such a wasted space especially in an election year.
      
      [Mod – people are free to discuss what they want, if there is an issue you want to discuss then do so. If there is an issue that you are not interested in then ignore it]
      
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      July 1, 2023 1:06pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Piniwi – then start a discussion with one of your important issues. Why complain that you don’t like the subject others are talking about? Surely that’s their call whether to engage or not?
        
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        July 1, 2023 1:51pm
- Lee C
  
  Placebos eh?
  
  Personally relieved and secretly suspicious this is what was given – sorry – ‘forced to take’.
  
  I personally felt the only way they could ‘meet demand’ was by producing salt-water. Imagine being able to produce a ‘vaccine’ in months and then produce enough of them to service – the world?
  
  Remember that article in NZ about a batch of ‘vaccines’ tht were found to contain just saltwater?
  
  This suggests that the people selling these solutions knew either:
  a) The covid ‘pandemic’ was a scam
  b) It wouldn’t matter if they sold saline – the actual ‘vaccines’ were useless
  c) they would do this with impunity because people would be catching ‘covid’ anyway.
  d) it was prbably safer than the so-called ‘real thing’.
  e) people are just fucking stupid.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:45am
  - Clownworld
    
    The global experiment was an unmitigated success.
    Test the people’s response and reaction to govt control, sustained propaganda , psychological lockdowns etc.
    
    Some countries got different treatments.
    All was an exercise to prepare the next global resets.
    
    Pick which one happens next?
    
    Digitized currency. AI removing jobs. Preparation for collapse of the nation states.
    Food shortages.
    Artifical food replacements.
    War
    Fake deceptions like
    Aliens….
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:46am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Aliens…as in illegal.
      
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      July 1, 2023 9:25pm
Mike

Happy 80th birthday to Jeff Wayne:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aa5NtpVbw
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July 1, 2023 8:00am
- Dave
  
  That’s the spirit of Mike worth living for.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:59am
  - Mike
    
    Wasn’t Burton’s narration terrific?
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:36am
Mike

Also, happy International Tartan Day!
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July 1, 2023 8:01am
Mike

And, in case you are hungry, today is the Feast of the Most Precious Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
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July 1, 2023 8:03am
- Che Guava
  
  Despite your obvious hatred for him, Jesus still loves you Mike, showing that God does indeed work in mysterious ways that we could never really fathom.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:46am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Amen!
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:53am
  - Dave
    
    Is it possible to simultaneously claim
    
    1) God does indeed work…
    2) …in mysterious ways that we could never really fathom?
    
    One of the objections to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution when first published was that, despite the overwhelming evidence that evolution had occurred, Darwin could not identify the mechanism by which bodily changes were initiated in individuals and then preserved across generations. That took genetics.
    
    Likewise, Continental Drift was an interesting speculation supported by plausible evidence, but became widely accepted as Tectonic Plate Theory only after mapping the Mid-Atlantic Ridge convincingly revealed a mechanism producing that drift. (At least, I think that’s what happened. Oil exploration probably contributed too. Corrections from geologists are welcome.)
    
    A major difficulty for sceptics with God’s works is that, on the evidence so far, they are indistinguishable from stuff happens.
    
    Ps. I doubt if Mike hates God.
    
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    July 1, 2023 12:36pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    A “love” not generally understood by humans?
    
    Don’t be born in the wrong part of the planet (IE brainwashed from birth into “devil worship” beliefs courtesy of the local culture)?
    
    Don’t be “luke warm”?
    
    Don’t fail to “believe” even if the whole caboodle doesn’t make sense to you?
    
    Otherwise….
    
    Burn in hell for ever.
    
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    July 1, 2023 12:40pm
    - Mike
      
      It’s a fascinating feature of many adherents to the Book of Love that they relish the prospect of eternal torture for those who do not share their delusions.
      
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      July 1, 2023 12:50pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Mike few (if any) purported “serious” Christians that I know “relish” any such thing.
        
        Occasionally a few will make light of that whole deal in rash moments, but I suspect will be shortly thereafter praying for forgiveness!
        
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        July 1, 2023 5:38pm
Bridgenag

UK is weaponizing banking now
And you think it will not happen here to you? Wake up.

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/uk-is-weaponizing-banking-now?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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July 1, 2023 8:07am
- Che Guava
  
  “The gloves are off, and bank-government collusion is now in plain sight for all to see.”
  
  It may be plain to see now, but the banks have run governments for centuries, particularly with the advent of the central banking system. Government policies generally reflect what is best for the bankers, be it wars on foreign nations (often those who resist the bankers) or domestic “wars” on the people who elect the governments.
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:10am
Lee C

Has the continuous attempt to smear and jail and demonise Trump been one of the so-far most successful exercises in deflection of the Democrats’ corruption in recent history? Alongside ‘Covid’ (which was a convenient way to overcome pesky voting restrictions that didn’t favour Democrats States)? I mean? (Spoiler alert this describes Fauci’s collusion in the management/cover-up of the covid disinformation campaign https://youtu.be/jzR1QpC5Fkk) So Trump was right.

But back to Biden (and covid) Even the MSM are now starting to ask questions.

About the Biden shenanigans: This is from Forbes. https://youtu.be/MOblDUh_mhw
Not, for those grasping at straws and strawmen – Fox News. (Fox,in my view have been the only MSM outlet which have been doing any journalism lately).

It is now common knowledge that Hilary Clinton destroyed evidence under subpoena, and invented the Russian-collusion narrative to smear Trump. So Trump was right. It is apparent that the FBI ran an intensive ‘investigation’ which has subsequently been proven to have been a total fiction. It is also apparent that suppression of documents illustrating this have been deliberately suppressed by the FBI.
It is also apparent that Joe Biden has used his influence to profit his own family on an extensive level. Investigations into Biden ad his son, Hunter have been blocked, stymied and bodged on purpose to avoid the statues of limitation. So Trump was right. You now have a sitting President who will argue ‘Gun Control’ and ‘Tax the Rich’ when the evidence is mounting he’s influenced the judiciary to overlook his son’s gun crimes and tax-evasion for foreign money acquired by brokering deals using Biden Senior’s political influence an ‘The Big Guy’.

At a Town Hall Meeting in front of an anxious crowd, Republican Senator Byron Ronalds describes how the cover-up for Biden’s money laundering was exposed, despite the Democrat efforts to suppress the information.
Ronalds describes a two-track impeachment process of both of Biden and the Attorney General.
They have the facts. They are “close to having all the evidence they need”.
Meanwhile Hunter Biden pleads ‘poverty’ to avoid paying up in a paternity suit. The apple don’t fall far from the tree.
At the risk of being contentious, how much evidence has emerged about Donald Trump in the multiple efforts to smear him? That’s right. Non.
So Trump was right.
You’ve been taken for a fool by the likes of Hilary Clinton and her toadies. But you will never admit it, because by doing so you will have to eat a huge dead rat:
That Trump was right.
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July 1, 2023 8:10am
- Inandout
  
  Lee, you mention Fox ‘doing journalism’ but to what extent? Dropping Tucker because he crossed the line drove the man into the arms of Elon Musk and Twitter. This of course had an immediate effect on Fox (save Gutfeld) when they saw falling viewership and they scrambled to re-arrange their evening lineup. It is obvious Murdoch, and more so his son Lachlan, who set limits as to how far his hosts can venture, especially in the Covid/Pfizer area. Tucker has now a huge world audience and he appears to relish the freedom.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:49am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The pricks in Fox that caused this can now not touch Tucker Carlson on Twitter.
    This is what happens when you shit in the nest. I sometimes wonder if Tucker Carlson actually orchestrated all of this. Did Elon Musk give him the ‘go ahead’ to bury Fox?
    There is more to come out about Dominion Voting Machines. Carlson will act at the right time. Trump 2024!
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:32am
  - Lee C
    
    Yes, very fair call. But on the Biden corruption they have been so front and centre the rest of the MSM are now being obliged to ask questions.
    
    It’s also possible they got a wake-up call, and have doubled down on the ‘work’ too.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:50am
    - mawm
      
      Lee – your target is far too narrow. The Republican Senate has said any impeachment of Biden “is dead on arrival”. The corruption in US politics is extensive and massive, and it involves both parties.
      
      A Senate campaign costs about US$20 mil…. for a salary of US$174 000 pa over 6 years. Yet many of them retire with wealth you and I can barely comprehend.
      
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      July 1, 2023 1:27pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        The “establishment” are on both sides of the coin.
        RINOs yes, but even staunch Republicans are crooked. Tell me about Bill Barr.
        
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        July 1, 2023 3:54pm
- softail 1450
  
  Lee C ,With all the stuff going on with the Bidens and Trump and the medias differing responses to it I find it quite soothing that NZ isn’t the only Western Country that has 50% of their population who are uninformed Ignorant morons and generally Labour supporters.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:53am
  - Mike
    
    The US doesn’t have a labour party. It’s an outlier among liberal democracies in that it has a conservative party and a more conservative party.
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:51am
    - gravedodger
      
      The veneer the democrats have clung to is corroding fast as the acid of AOC and the other wannabes drive to socialism at speeds that will ensure a calamitous meltdown eventually.
      Your claim had considerable veracity until Obama ripped a scab off and the Party of slavery, white supremacy origins that had morphed to a level where the “Southern” infection was hidden, now bleeds again.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:07am
    - leoj
      
      Written from a leftist viewpoint.
      
      Democrats and Labour are blood brothers as well as blood morons.
      
      There is nothing at all conservative about the Demoncrats. Explain their wanting to pack the Supreme Court with liberals.
      
      Democrats are scum.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:11am
      - Mike
        
        You seem to think that ‘liberal’ is the same as ‘leftist’. How do people get so confused about political philosophy?
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:45am
      - NothingLeft
        
        Liberal shouldn’t be a dirty word. It encapsulated a nobel anti bigotry and freedom loving ethos. But it’s been poisoned by US political discourse and left wing flight-to-extremism. In practice it is now associated with anti-liberal wokeness
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:45pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Comrade Helen: kind of “liberal”.
        
        Current Labour: Woke far left.
        
        Liberal: Reasonably sensible live and let live ethos, supporting a sustainable level of social welfare.
        
        Woke: Fascistic self righteous juvenile idiocy.
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:56pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Come on Mike, you can do better than that.
      The US does not have a labour party. No capital “L” just like you!
      Democracies are a bit different in the Western World than the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America.
      
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      July 1, 2023 3:59pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Don’t forget, Australia too is now part of the moronosphere.
    
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    July 1, 2023 5:44pm
- Simon
  
  Trump won the 2020 election. The Dems and big tech cheated. The GOPe cheered them on.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes Simon. Those GOPs are part of the swamp!!
    
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    July 1, 2023 4:01pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “It is now common knowledge that Hilary Clinton destroyed evidence under subpoena, and invented the Russian-collusion narrative to smear Trump.” Why is she not in jail. Same goes for the Bidens (12 connected)
  Trump has a huge job ahead of him, to drain that swamp and bury the elite democrats and deep state. That swamp is way bigger than he estimated.
  Only one thing can stop Trump now – assassination. You can’t tell me that this has not been thought of and planned. As ex POTUS Trump has a security detail as do his family members and ex-staffers. Is that enough?
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:42am
  - Lee C
    
    Yup the ‘A’ word has occurred to me as well.
    
    Some people would just love that.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:52am
  - mawm
    
    I afraid Trump will never be able to take on the behemoth that is the “swamp” and only a popular uprising on the scale of the French Revolution will end them.
    
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    July 1, 2023 1:31pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      He may not extinguish the ‘swamp’ but he will bury a lot who have crossed his path. He wants the Clintons, Obamas, Pelosi’s in jail. It will never happen, but Trump’s biggest bitch is decades of corruption to be exposed to Americans.
      
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      July 1, 2023 4:15pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Lee C – have you come across the story about the ‘big guy’ and the burner phone, paid for by Hunter?
  
  In a stunning revelation, investigative journalist John Solomon recently made a phone call to a number alleged to be Joe Biden’s secret global phone, and to his surprise, the former vice president answered. This revelation adds a new layer to the ongoing controversy surrounding the Biden family’s business dealings and potential conflicts of interest. While the authenticity of the phone call is yet to be independently verified, the implications are significant and warrant further scrutiny.
  
  https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/contaminated-vaccines-how-much-longer-can-the-safe-and-effective-narrative-survive/
  
  The Clintons were dodgy af but the Bidens are next level.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:55am
  - Mike
    
    [Mod – discuss what is being talked about without trolling]
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:01am
    - Mike
      
      That would entail taking nonsensical premises seriously.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:46am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        You manage it every morning when you look in the mirror, shouldn’t be too difficult.
        
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        July 1, 2023 11:03am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        You really are a legend in your own little bubble aren’t you Mike.
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:42pm
  - Lee C
    
    Yup seen it CM.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:52am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Clinton’s were far far worse, they. Trousered hundreds of millions in pay-for-play during Hillary’s political tenure, but had safer laundering approach -Clinton speeches and donations to their Clinton Foundation ‘charity’ that appears to be mostly focused on providing high incomes and lifestyle accoutrements to Clintons.
    
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    July 1, 2023 12:51pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Never forget, we (NZ, or was it Aotearoa?) contributed to the Clinton Foundation and we persisted in doing so even after the Foundation was classified as a scam.
      
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      July 1, 2023 3:59pm
  - mawm
    
    CM – the whole of the Obama Administration had non-governmental phones and emails along with a “nom de guerre” to keep their shenanigans out of the reach of the OIA.
    
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    July 1, 2023 1:35pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Joe Biden was part of that Obama Administration.
      As VP he got the Ukraine admin to not prosecute Hunter or they get no money.
      Then Joe blew his arse about it!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA–dj2-CY
      
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      July 1, 2023 4:27pm
      - mawm
        
        He was never the sharpest knife in the drawer.
        
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        July 1, 2023 5:07pm
- Che Guava
  
  After 8 years of intensive investigations into Trump, from every angle and concerning all aspects of his life, all the Deep State have been able to find is a barely interesting matter concerning some documents he had in his possession. That’s it. Who cares? This is all they could find, and they’ve had to stretch it to its limits and draw it out into a “case” against Trump.
  
  The conclusion of all this investigation and non-evidence is that Trump is likely the most upright and above board US politician of the last 100 years. The Clintons, Obama and Bush probably still have “classified documents” next to their dunnies for a bit of light reading. They could go after any public figure they wanted and find more damning evidence, but nobody else is a threat to the system and its grip on power than Trump is. That’s why they chose Trump and nobody else.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:38am
Bridgenag

USA Friday Funnies: Promo code – “BigGuy”
Life on planet earth.

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/friday-funnies-promo-code-bigguy?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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July 1, 2023 8:10am
krazykiwi

RAF Head “Apologises Unreservedly” After Inquiry Finds Force Discriminated Against White Men.

Good.
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July 1, 2023 8:11am
- kowtow
  
  Yer but the head of the army is said to have been forced out cos he’s not happy with manning levels and cuts and a medico colonel out cos he said men are men and wimmin can’t be .
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:38am
- Master Mariner
  
  Common sense is starting to finally prevail.
  
  And along a similar vein, Common sense from Aust Parliament John Riddick,
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGiczfkqt4E
  
  Wheels are starting to fall off the narrative.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:53am
  - Mike
    
    I’ve been reading on Kiwiblog for nearly 20 years that ‘the wheels are starting to fall off the narrative’. When do you think this ‘starting’ phase might lead to one or two wheels actually falling?
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:57am
    - Che Guava
      
      Only 20 years? Some days it seems more like 200 years, such is the repetitiveness of what could loosely be described as your “thought.” Like music tastes, fashion sense and haircuts, many work out their essential dogma early on and then studious refuse to budge, not matter how out of step they are with the current state of things or how ridiculous they look to others.
      
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      July 1, 2023 11:23am
      - Mike
        
        I recently changed my haircut. But are you likely to change your devotion to neo-Fascist philosophy?
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:52pm
      - Che Guava
        
        What is “neo-Fascism” and why should someone not be devoted to it, whatever it may be? I wouldn’t describe myself as a fascist at all, although there are compelling arguments in its favour, arguments that we are all encouraged to never investigate lest they undermine our ruling ideology liberalism. All political ideologies are fundamentally justifications for the current ruling class. I think they all need to be analysed and critiqued on their merits, not on the say so of self-interested parties. Some may be better than others, but that’s for me to decide, not you or anyone else.
        
        What I am is intellectually curious and intellectually honest enough and not brainwashed into unquestioning adherence to liberal dogma to see that there are deep fundamental issues with liberalism that are increasingly manifest, and that there are other organising principles. From a historical perspective, something approaching “fascism” is the historical norm, rather than the exception.
        
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        July 1, 2023 1:38pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      The western loony left started loosening the wheel bolts generally around the late 1960s.
      
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      July 1, 2023 5:46pm
- Simon
  
  Not that good. They need white men to fight Russia. If it gets serious the fats and DEI goes out the window
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:07am
  - Che Guava
    
    The last 500 years or so have been an exhibition of what they like to call “White supremacy.” Nobody else has come close to what Europeans have accomplished. In fact, everyone benefits from the fruits of “White supremacy” whether they admit it or not. So either the haters want a decent society run by competent people, or they want to live in a world free of “racism” where the White man is out of favour. The empirical evidence suggests that you can’t have a highly functional society without White people. Call it “White primacy” perhaps, but it is what it is.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:54am
    - Dave
      
      Japan?
      
      And while I’m very much a European Enlightenment fanboy, the previous century of European history is a bit embarrassing.
      
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      July 1, 2023 12:48pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      “White” is irrelevant. It’s essentially about the spread and uptake of European civilisation.
      
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      July 1, 2023 5:49pm
- igm
  
  What type of arseholes downtick a comment such as this?
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:16am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Annoying arseholes?😝
    
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    July 1, 2023 5:50pm
- nathie
  
  They were the ~~unintended~~ intended consequences that got out of hand by following Government decrees, ticking boxes and compliance reporting.
  
  (In NZ’s case we also have so-called Treaty Principles being reinterpreted way too far, to contend with – but that’s another story).
  
  Message to Governments (of all hues), please stick with the basics and manage the economy and its portfolios – leave identity politics to individuals to practice what they either believe in or are comfortable with – in the same way the Government leaves individuals to practice their own personal religious beliefs as an example.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:39am
- Loddenthinks
  
  I’m now eagerly awaiting a similar mea culpa and groveling apology from Harvard, Yale and other Ivy League universities – not just apologising to whites but most importantly to Asians.
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:28am
- BananaLlama
  
  If we are going to be divided into tiny competing racial groups then white men also need to start playing the game.
  
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  July 1, 2023 12:16pm
rjay

It turns out that EVs aren’t that safe in the garage
https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132444698/kiwi-jaguar-ev-owners-told-to-park-cars-outside-due-to-fire-risk
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July 1, 2023 8:14am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  There’s a bit of CO2 being emitted there
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:28am
- krazykiwi
  
  I park on a wooden, shared cardeck servicing to large homes, both on on poles. I will never have an EV on this cardeck, and fortunately our neighbour is a BMW M3 enthusiast. If our deck went up so would both homes and 6 cars. Yes, I keep a fire extinguisher nearby.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:49am
  - gravedodger
    
    Don’t rely on any extinguisher if an EV is involved, just saying.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:10am
  - leoj
    
    Fire Depts don’t know how to extinguish EV fires.
    
    Your extinguisher is already a fail.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:14am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      As are your reading skills: “I will never have an EV on this car-deck”.
      
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      July 1, 2023 11:29am
- Master Mariner
  
  I am pretty sure the Insurers will not be too far away either, If not already.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:53am
- KH
  
  I remember plenty of ICE cars self incinerating. One example was the old Vauxhall. You had to park them as you would not want to be in one.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:37am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Haha, nice one!
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:30am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Happy days
    
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    July 1, 2023 6:15pm
hullkiwi

Modern NZ, where perpetrators of crime can be discharged without conviction because of a woke, weak justice system

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/men-who-shot-bull-steer-with-arrows-and-left-them-to-suffer-escape-convictions/3U4GAT4DKBBRHMYP7Q3J6X5AJI/

This is an appalling decision.

It speaks to the urban rural divide in NZ

It speaks to the weakness of NZ’s justice system, where there is scant justice for the victims of crime, but the perpetrators are forgiven their crimes and can move on with their lives, because it took 2 years for the system to prosecute the guilty.

It speaks to the failures of the system to prosecute perpetrators because the system couldn’t pin the blame of the specific crime on the one who fired the arrow. Both were present, both knew what they were doing, both should be found equally guilty of the crimes.

This decision sets bad precedents on so many levels. This says there are few consequences for criminals, because time and the failures of the system can see all washed away.
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July 1, 2023 8:16am
DimChappie

Judge sees “something positive” in Black Power membership.
Black Power mobsters beat, stabbed mental patient who wore red to Taranaki Macdonalds.

https://tinyurl.com/93h68vyp

Judge Tony Greig opened each hearing by offering a chance for karakia.
The level of involvement in the attack varied between the men, and some were jailed while the rest were given home detention. What was mostly consistent were the bumper discounts applied to the sentences.
The judge accepted gang culture for Rupapera-McRoberts provided “something positive in his life, something otherwise missing”.
“But wanting to inflict serious injuries upon someone because they’re wearing the colour red is the downside of gang culture,” he said.
From a start point of four years and six months’ jail, Rupapera-McRoberts was given credit for his guilty pleas, youth and lack of previous convictions, remorse, background factors and time spent on electronically monitored bail. An end sentence of 22 months’ imprisonment was converted to 11 months of home detention.
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July 1, 2023 8:24am
- kowtow
  
  It’s beyond ridiculous .
  
  It’s actually disgusting.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:29am
- Tony Stuart
  
  What a great endorsement for the reason National is proposing sentencing discounts be capped at 40%, and that factors such as youth and remorse can only be used once.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:55am
- surfing
  
  It is a lineup of vicious thugs and cretins. The judge shouldn’t have given any of them credit until they identified their fellow unidentified assailants.
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:13am
pdm

Arrived Hamilton Thursday afternoon.

We thought it could rain in Hastings but shit Hamilton cleans it up. Supposed to be watching grandkids netball and rugby later – not keen.
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July 1, 2023 8:25am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  It is raining Datsun Cogs here in Hamilton.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:47am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Just another day of beautiful weather here in the paradise that is the nation’s capital
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:30am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Wellington’s weather has been astonishingly good for weeks now.
      
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      July 1, 2023 9:51am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Ours has been atrocious for at least 8 of the last 7 months. Due a break soon. Haven’t been out for a fish for 2 bloody months!
        
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        July 1, 2023 11:51am
- pdm
  
  Sun has been shining so maybe there is hope.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:35am
- Biscuit
  
  pdm, here in the ‘Riviera of the South’, Upper Hutt, its a gorgeous fine day, still, not a cloud in the sky, not grandkids within cooee…
  
  Just saying…
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:38am
  - Mike
    
    Too cold up that end of the valley.
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:59am
- Mummy
  
  Another glorious day on the Kapiti Coast with wall to wall sunshine and no real rain since 10 May. How do I know that? Torrential rain in the morning and then the sun came out in time for my 95 yo father to fall in the car park and break his hip. Only a few overnight showers and three cloudy days since.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:08am
  - greybeard
    
    Yes, it has been a great run. A bit cold at times.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:40am
Swifty

Marama Davidson said violence in the world is caused by cis white males and with a smugness which revealed her true character.

This statement cemented to me that she is an outright racist, will say any untruth if she finds it politically convenient and that she is unfit to be an MP – just imagine how she would howl if a European MP said the reverse about Maori.

I’d add that a first time visitor to our shores would, having flicked through our news media for a few days, would reach a different conclusion to Davidson:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/black-power-members-carried-out-brutal-unprovoked-attack-on-man-at-taranaki-mcdonalds/EIABLTYBENEWDHPJCZ6YRIRXTU/

When do we reach the point where we can agree that this is Maoridom? This is Maori values in action. This is Maori ‘lived experience’.

Not the fanciful, aspirational, plucked out of the air Te Ao Maori and tikanga espoused in our universities and grifting communities where Maoridom is all sweetness and light and superior to Pakeha culture in every way.

Let’s not overlook that in the vast majority of cases the great grandparents and beyond of those pictured in that story will have been hard-working, law-abiding New Zealanders and would be aghast at this behaviour of their descendants would they be alive to see it. That’s right, this behaviour has only appeared in the last 50 years, coincident with the explosion in New Zealand of incentives to not work, incentives to have children irresponsibly, incentives to break up marriages and the state becoming the father to hundreds of thousands of kids.

Without major corrections in the trajectory of this country, where the value of good personal responsibility is prioritised and feral behaviour not condoned nor incentivised, I confidently predict that this is our future – and with large portions of Maoridom continuing to occupy our society’s lowest rungs, preying on their fellow community members.

Should that be our future I sheet home responsibility to no-one other than those involved but reserve a special derision and contempt for those politicians and assorted grifters who have for decades enabled this human degradation – with Marama Davidson top of the list.
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July 1, 2023 8:28am
- Opie
  
  That’s actually what they want – to do things their way, which of course is the modern way of hand outs and violence. This is what he puapua is all about. It even states that areas of the country will be for maoris only, lived under their own rules with their own justice system.
  
  I originally thought this was a terrible idea, having spent all my life treating people as equals.
  
  I now think it’s a really good idea. Section off a part of the country for maoris only (as per the recommendation from he puapua) and go for it. We will even leave some horrible white man infrastructure there for you. You will need to work out the rest. Take it back to the 1830s. No, it won’t be funded by our side.
  
  Show us the land area you want, say 16% of the land mass and we will survey it and start digging a trench around it, so we can’t come over and bother you.
  
  Non racist maoris and all others welcome on one side, racist maoris and virtue signalling woke whiteys on the other. If you think the culture is so great, you go and live with it.
  
  Solves all problems.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:06am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Sadly, they would quickly run out of money and take a loan or three from the CCP.
    
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    July 1, 2023 6:18pm
- Gravelroad
  
  @Swifty-
  Several years ago, I attended a conference in Hawera.
  On the way back to our accommodation, around 11pm, we drove down the main street and saw a line of people waiting outside a bank atm machine.
  They were mostly women in their pyjamas with kids running round and babies in prams.
  I asked my local hosts what were they doing there at that time of night?
  Turned out (and this was before internet banking) that their benefit money was due to be available at midnight and that was what they were waiting for.
  I said (yes, naive, I know), but why would they want money at midnight with no shops open in Hawera at that time?
  Answer: they have to go straight round with the cash to pay off their drug dealers – otherwise no more supply.
  Illegal drugs which fund the brave warriors in the gangs- who are actually just mindless louts.
  Havn’t been back to Hawera, but if I do, I will remember not to wear a red jersey.
  Also, with all the concern and care and excuses made for the criminals reported in the link above, I didn’t see much about the victim’s ongoing well-being and entitlements.
  Or did I miss it?
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:22am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Don’t wear a blue one either; that’s Black Power’s colours.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:56am
    - Mike
      
      Mongrel Mob = red = Labour Party
      Black Power = blue = National Party
      
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      July 1, 2023 12:54pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Killer Bees = Yellow = ACT?
        
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        July 1, 2023 6:20pm
- nathie
  
  The other sad aspect is, and although the article doesn’t make it clear, reading between the lines I suspect the victim is of Maori heritage himself.
  
  And that’s why the gangsters picked on him.
  
  So here’s the thing. Whilst the likes of “radical elites” like Marama Davidson can have the privilege (and protection) of issuing statements that “white cis males” as being the cause of violence, it is everyday Maori (and NZers and immigrants etc), if not usually the poorer Maori in society, that has to put up with real-life violence from their “own kind”.
  
  Whether that’s in the suburbs of South Auckland or rural towns like Hawera or wherever …and whenever has the likes of the (left supporting) Elites and the Marama Davidson’s of this world stood up and spoke up to say enough is enough when it comes to gang violence against the ordinary law abiding person?
  
  Never!
  
  In fact it’s the opposite, we now have The Greens, TPM and now despicably the Labour Party of NZ defending and cuddling up to the gangs.
  
  Just horrible, horrible lefties, in their own safe and secure privileged worlds. October 14 can’t come soon enough!
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:41am
- NZer In Exile
  
  “Marama Davidson said violence in the world is caused by cis white males and with a smugness which revealed her true character.”
  
  And, what percentage of murderers in NZ are “cis white males”?
  
  She may also want to like up murder rates by country in order to get a few clues.
  
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  July 1, 2023 5:55pm
krazykiwi

Who applauded when years ago we learned that governments would shut down the bank accounts of terrorists? I admit to lacking insights and naively applauded this. The problem for the applauders, and for those that mock the notion of slippery slopes is that once something like arbitrary state access to personal wealth gets started, the power gained is too delicious to resist.

For me the first, if distant warning shot across my bow was during the GFC when the Cypriot government, strapped for cash, simply waded into the bank accounts of ‘wealthy’ individuals and helped themselves to cash.

More alarming that that was the Canadian government freezing the bank account of protesters and people who donated to protesters.

The next event is more recent. This week off-narrative UK politician Nigel Farage has announced that he has had his bank accounts forcibly closed, and no other bank will take his personal or business banking. This is weaponising the banking sector and should set alarm bell ringing for any thinking person, and should set the scene for what we can expect if CBDC’s are forced on us. Resist, resist, resist.
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July 1, 2023 8:30am
- ClanMcleod
  
  And while resisting, prepare, prepare, prepare. Take what steps you can to ride out the potential issues that may come with these attacks on freedom.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:45am
- Philview
  
  I recall it happened here a couple of years ago. A man lost his job and I am sure dumped by his bank and other organisations when he uploaded videos heavily critical of Jacinda Ardern. There may have been more to it than that in terms of his behaviour but I am sure his bank shut his accounts.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:45am
  - kowtow
    
    I believe that was Lee Williams . A synlait truck driver who banked with westpac .His offence was to upset the Maori Party .
    
    see redbaiter’s blog .
    
    ps this is a form of social credit , once again we copy the CCP.
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:56am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      “Social credit” is putting it too mildly. It’s simply fascism. What’s worse is the people pulling this shit are a minority faction of the population.
      
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      July 1, 2023 5:57pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Here’s a reminder that the self appointed Masters of the Universe are now feeling comfortable enough to come out from behind the curtain and tell us openly that they are going to force us to behave in any way they decide we should be behaving.
  
  Head of Blackrock, Larry Fink telling us how ESG will be compulsory.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ
  
  Democracy is being consigned to the rubbish bin of history.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:57am
  - Master Mariner
    
    And latest comments from Aspen regarding ESG,
    
    https://time.com/6291317/larry-fink-esg-climate-action/
    
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-championed-185205296.html
    
    And the Lawsuits are pilling up along with the backlash.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:06am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Good job re the lawsuits. These bastards are making a mockery of democracy.
      
      The primary flaw in his reasoning, which makes every decision he and the company make flawed, is that he’s drank too much of the the net zero kool aid. The evidence is piling up that as with covid, most of the claims are based on nonsensical modeling which can be created to tell any narrative the creator wants them to. Never forget the ‘80,000’ who Jaxcinda saved from certain death.//
      
      NASA Climate Model Fails at Basic Physics, Report Finds
      
      However, as everyone knows, climate scientists say we should still be frightened, because of what they learn from their climate models. These giant computer simulations of the atmosphere and ocean are at the centre of the global warming scare, and are behind every claim that droughts will get worse, storms are caused by SUVs and that we are all going to hell in a handcart. We are told, endlessly, that we should trust these prognostications because the models are ‘based on basic physics’.
      
      But what if that wasn’t strictly true? What if climate models were actually junk? A new paper from Net Zero Watch shows, somewhat alarmingly, that this is indeed the case.
      
      https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/30/nasa-climate-model-fails-at-basic-physics-report-finds/
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:43am
- kowtow
  
  Lee Williams.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:03am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I read Krazykiwi’s comment about an hour ago, then went away to prepare breakfast. Over porridge I thought;
  “This is one of the most thoughtful comments placed on Kiwiblog. It is chilling, in the extreme.”
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:40am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Tauhei Notts – it really is chilling. When you look a the graph showing the effects of the three different batches, it is hard not to come to the conclusion that the pharmaceutical companies did a ‘live fire’ experiment on the people of this planet with their experimental mRNA garbage.
    
    https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/image-72.png
    
    There is no way that result is an accident. People were treated as lab rats.
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:13am
- miltonF
  
  It’s so obvious what is happening. I don’t know how anyone can deny it. Yet deluded lefties still think the govt is their friend.
  
  The purpose of govt used to be to protect our human rights from abuses of power.
  
  Nowadays, the purpose of govt is a tool to allow the powerful to abuse our rights.
  
  Inversion.
  
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  July 1, 2023 1:11pm
Vercingetorix

The US Supreme Court has overturned the practice of universities weighting the race and ethnicity of applicants in college admissions.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-affirmative-action-college-race-f83d6318017ec9b9029b12ee2256e744

Biden wails. 😂😂😂

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2023/jun/29/joe-biden-condemns-supreme-court-ruling-affirmative-action-video
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July 1, 2023 8:37am
- krazykiwi
  
  Look at this response : “… No black person will be able to succeed in a merit based system”.
  
  Yes, the tyranny of liberal racism disguised as low expectations.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    So virtue signaling white woman tells black people they don’t have what it takes to succeed in life and they need handouts and leg ups. That’ll work wonders for their self esteem and race relations…..//
    
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    July 1, 2023 8:47am
  - softail 1450
    
    Krazykiwi , “Poor kids are just as smart as white kids” an actual quote from that Mensa member Joe “Peter” Biden.
    
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    July 1, 2023 8:56am
  - kowtow
    
    Are they saying Obama had help ?
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:57am
    - HeatherW
      
      From Barack Obama’s statement after Uni decision:
      
      “Like any policy, affirmative action wasn’t perfect,” former President Barack Obama said in a statement. “But it allowed generations of students like Michelle and me to prove we belonged. Now it’s up to all of us to give young people the opportunities they deserve − and help students everywhere benefit from new perspectives.”
      
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      July 1, 2023 2:47pm
      - mawm
        
        I have never read her thesis/dissertation that was required at university but apparently it was absolute garbage.
        
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        July 1, 2023 5:13pm
- Mike
  
  The court has also ruled that it’s okay to discriminate against people if your deity demands it. IOW, “my religious ‘liberty’ trumps your human rights”.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:54am
  - All_on_Red
    
    I find it odd that someone who wants a cake for their Same sex marriage would be so keen on getting a Bigot to make it for them that they go to Court to force them.
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:33am
    - Mike
      
      There seems considerable doubt about the factual basis for the case, as the person who allegedly requested a website for his same-sex wedding did not actually do so. The case was an invented one to invite the supreme court bigots to rule that their god doesn’t have to let gay people have rights.
      
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      July 1, 2023 9:38am
      - All_on_Red
        
        “Abiding the Constitution’s commitment to the freedom of speech means all will encounter ideas that are ‘misguided, or even hurtful.’ Consistent with the First Amendment, the Nation’s answer is tolerance, not coercion. The First Amendment envisions the United States as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to think and speak as they wish, not as the government demands. Colorado cannot deny that promise consistent with the First Amendment.”
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:10am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      It’s not so much about being allowed to discriminate as to who you provide your service too, whether a cake or a website, but about whether those customers have the right to force you to convey speech you don’t agree with on the cake and the web site:
      
      It is difficult to read the dissent and conclude we are looking at the same case. Much of it focuses on the evolution of public accommodations laws, post, at 7–13, and the strides gay Americans have made towards securing equal justice under law, post, at 14–17. And, no doubt, there is much to applaud here. But none of this answers the question we face today: Can a State force someone who provides her own expressive services to abandon her conscience and speak its preferred message instead?
      
      That’s Gorsuch getting stuck into Sotamayor’s dissent, which is the second time in two days that a Justice has dragged a fellow Justice for providing poor arguments, after Thomas did the same to Jackson on the Harvard case. Gorsuch again:
      
      In some places, the dissent gets so turned around about the facts that it opens fire on its own position. For instance: While stressing that a Colorado company cannot refuse “the full and equal enjoyment of [its] services” based on a customer’s protected status, post, at 27, the dissent assures us that a company selling creative services “to the public” does have a right “to decide what messages to include or not to include,” post, at 28.
      
      But if that is true, what are we even debating?
      
      Heh. No wonder he also said “It is difficult to read the dissent and conclude we are looking at the same case.”
      
      If Jackson and Sotomayor are the best legal minds the Left can send to the Court they’re going to be in for a lot of pain going forward, although to be fair the whole idea is just to emplace justices who will rubber-stamp whatever policy the Democrats want.
      
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      July 1, 2023 1:19pm
    - Mike
      
      Some might read Tom Hunter’s comment and imagine that he actually believes the supreme court decides cases on the basis of legal principles rather than political belief. But if that were so he would probably not have reiterated, many times, the critical importance of republican presidents being able to make as many judicial appointments as possible.
      The vast majority of the court’s recent decisions, from student debt relief and anti-LGB discrimination, to affirmative action, criminal appeal rights and abortion are very obviously based on partisan political preferences. That plain bias, together with the egregious ethical violations by some justices, seriously undermines the court’s legitimacy.
      
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      July 1, 2023 3:11pm
  - Ghost
    
    If the person doesn’t want to make a cake for someone, then you go to someone that will. Far easier than running around bitching about it.
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:41am
    - Mike
      
      It’s a simple wedge issue. First you say you can’t possibly make a website for a same-sex wedding, as it might upset an imaginary deity. Then you put a sign in the shop window that gay people cannot enter, as that might infringe your religious freedom to exclude sinners from your premises. Then you have a revelation that your imaginary deity also disapproves of Muslins and Jews. What can one do? Religious liberty demands the freedom to discriminate on any grounds my invisible friend advises.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:12am
      - Ghost
        
        Then you go to someone who will do the work for you. Simple. I don’t know a single person who would be told that no we won’t do it because your gay and then would push to have them do it, they’ve rather give their money to someone who isn’t a bigot
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:18am
      - Mike
        
        Then your argument is against all anti-discrimination laws. Shop sign says “no dogs or Jews” – just go to another shop. Club says, “no Māori allowed here” – just go to another club.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:28am
      - Ghost
        
        You can live your life caring, life is too short to care and too short to give money to people who don’t want to serve you.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:35am
      - Mike
        
        While it’s obvious that many people don’t want to respect others’ human rights, it’s somewhat refreshing to read your frank admission that you don’t care for basic tolerance.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:50am
      - thirteenstars
        
        “Then your argument is against all anti-discrimination laws. Shop sign says “no dogs or Jews” – just go to another shop. Club says, “no Māori allowed here” – just go to another club.”
        
        Yep. Could agree more. You’re right, 100%. The government has no authority to discriminate. It must treat all people equally.
        
        Where your comment seems to fall down is that government doesn’t usually own shops or clubs. But if it did, sure, there it also couldn’t discriminate, as it has done in recent times when councils have tried to prevent public facilities being used by speakers on the basis of political ideology.
        
        This is why the recent SCOTUS decision about affirmative action is so laudable. Government-funded bodies do not have the right to discriminate since they are spending public money. If they want to implement such things they must not accept public money.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:51am
      - Ghost
        
        No mike, it’s about people respecting themselves and not giving business to someone that doesn’t respect you. If you want to go and give your business to someone that doesn’t respect you, hates you. Good for you. But I won’t financially support someone like that. Nice to know you don’t care how people feel about you that you will make sure their business is a success.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:59am
      - Mike
        
        Ghost – extend your argument and imagine a town where no business will serve your gay children. under your conception of liberty, they are ‘free’ to find another town in which to live, and perhaps should just move to another region where people are less hateful.
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:59pm
      - Ghost
        
        Welcome to 2023 Mike, the vast majority of society accept the gay community. If one shop doesn’t want to, then there are plenty that will.
        
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        July 1, 2023 1:24pm
      - thirteenstars
        
        “extend your argument and imagine a town where no business will serve your gay children.”
        
        Many businesses actively promote and celebrate gay lifestyles. They actively seek the endorsement of the “rainbow tick”. We live in a world where banks in Britain close the accounts of customers because they have the temerity to question the display of Pride flags in branches.
        
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12251447/British-building-society-admits-closing-accounts-people-rude-discriminate.html
        
        And you are unhinged enough to suggest “no business” will serve gay children.
        
        Get it straight: if you claim the right to associate with others, such as gay people being free to associate with other gay people, then the right applies in reverse, that someone who doesn’t want to associate with gay people can’t be forced to do so.
        
        Grow up. You don’t get to claim a right for yourself and deny it to others.
        
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        July 1, 2023 2:09pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Here’s comment from Justice Roberts and their Decision
  https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/06/supreme-court-finally-strikes-down-race-based-admissions.php
  Its worth reading Justice Thomas’s comments, especially in response to those made by Justice Jackson.
  https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2023/06/29/read-clarence-thomas-straight-fire-response-to-ketanji-brown-jackson-in-affirmative-action-case-concurrence-n768847
  Of course Babylon Bee (Fake News you can trust!) had to weigh in…
  https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:29am
  - Dave
    
    Thomas excoriates Jackson’s dissent, with evidence. Our ethnicity-obsessed political, bureaucratic and academic leaders might learn from reading his full supporting opinion.
    
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    July 1, 2023 11:01am
geoff3012

Silly question…maybe….but who, what is responsible For the Integrity institute being hammered on TV?

Has a Whiff about it.
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July 1, 2023 8:44am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The Integrity Institute was founded by Grant and Marilyn Nelson, a wealthy philanthropic couple. More here:
  
  https://theintegrityinstitute.org.nz/about/
  
  They seem to have a beef against governments in general, rather than any particular political ideology.
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:27am
  - Mike
    
    They believe corruption is entrenched in NZ government and society. Their main cases seem to be:
    1. VUW refused to use their donated money to study corruption as promised.
    2. The government will treat benefit overpayments as crimes but do nothing to recover vastly larger overpayments of wage subsidies.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:31am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I just had a post go into cyberspace, so I will repeat it.
I have an email from the Free Speech Union about Mellons Bay School wanting to stop a parent handing out flyers about RSE. Relationships and Sexuality Education. This is a primary school. Is NZ going to follow the US with the drag queens and all that shit? I can’t find this on the Free Speech Union website, so no link. There is also an email that I can’t copy, from Mellons Bay School to NZSTA, regarding the flyers. They say a parent handing out flyers can not influence another parent regarding RSE!! I may forward this to DPF.

Here’s some of the work we’ve been doing:

Primary school parent threatened by school principal for sharing views on RSE guidelines
Sometimes we get cases in our inbox that make us shake our heads in disbelief. They may not be huge, nor go to the top echelons of Government decision-making, but are simply such egregious violations of free speech rights that we are left wondering just what kind of justifications people could give themselves in silencing others.Mellons Bay School

We were recently approached by a parent of Mellons Bay School, letting us know that the school was undergoing consultation around the new Relationships and Sexuality Education Guidelines. Naturally, this was an important and possibly contentious area of discussion for the parents of the school and they would be fully within their rights to discuss the guidelines among themselves.

And yet, when this parent made and handed out flyers to other parents expressing their views on the consultation, they were confronted by the school principal and told “you’re entitled to your views but you can’t influence others”, and that if she continued to hand out her flyers, even off school grounds, the school board would have to “take action”.

We contacted the Principal of Mellons Bay school to confirm whether such an egregious series of event took place, and through her response and OIA requests found out that not only did it occur, but that the Principal had done so on the advice of the New Zealand School Trustees Association! Steve, I can’t tell you what caliber of lawyers they have at the NZSTA, but as for myself, I can’t see what possible legal justification the NZSTA or Mellons Bay School principal could come up with to justify threatening a parent for exercising their speech rights with other parents.

We’ve since written a “please explain” letter to the NZSTA. They have said we’ll hear back first thing next week. Big or small, when the speech rights of Kiwis are so blatantly run roughshod over, we won’t let it slide.
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July 1, 2023 9:04am
- Vercingetorix
  
  “Is NZ going to follow the US with the drag queens and all that shit?”
  
  Drag queen story time for children is happening all over New Zealand. It is called “rainbow story time”.
  
  https://www.flashmob.co.nz/rainbowstorytime
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:22am
  - Mike
    
    It’s not an issue here, for the same reasons pantomime shows are not an issue. Although there is a NZ nutcase fringe, well represented on Kiwiblog, whose members would love to stoke US-style culture wars.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      If you were 7 years old, would you like Relationships and Sexuality Education?
      Dam sure I wouldn’t. Rather be doing kid’s stuff, like shooting rats down in the gully with my air rifle.
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:42am
    - Vercingetorix
      
      “It’s not an issue here…”
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/03/auckland-library-closes-after-protesters-disrupt-drag-story-time-event-for-children.html
      
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      July 1, 2023 10:43am
      - Mike
        
        Well, not much of an issue. But there is a growing intolerance of diversity. These morons will go on from disrupting story times to protesting holiday pantomimes and wanting to ban men from wearing kilts or cassocks.
        
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        July 1, 2023 10:54am
      - Vercingetorix
        
        The ‘trans’ epidemic, particularly as it is spreading to children is the reason that support for ‘diversity’ is being eroded. So some folk conflate these drag queens with trans activists. Unsurprising.
        
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        July 1, 2023 11:28am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Mike, take your pills and settle down.
        You are being ridiculous.
        
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        July 1, 2023 12:57pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      “there is a NZ nutcase fringe”
      
      Have you considered the possibility that your fringe is nutcase?
      
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      July 1, 2023 6:01pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  My parents lived next door to Mellons Bay school in the late 1970’s. At that time its roll was among the least diverse in Auckland, being more than 99% white. How things have changed in 45 years!
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:30am
- JohnRidd
  
  I am pleased you are raising this. I don’t think many people would support this if they knew what was being proposed.
  
  The Relationships and Sexuality Education(RSE) guide can be downloaded at
  
  RELATIONSHIPS and SEXUALITY EDUCATION A GUIDE FOR TEACHERS, LEADERS, AND BOARDS OF TRUSTEES
  
  Some quotes from the Family First analysis of the RSE Guide.
  
  “In Science, your child will “consider how biological sex has been constructed and measured over time” and “consider variations in puberty, including the role of hormone blockers.”
  
  In Technology, your child will “identify how gender expectations are embedded in technology, for example, in the design and style of power tools and other tools…” and “explore symbols linked to the gay and transgender rights movements.”
  
  In the Arts, your child will “consider plays with roles that do not conform to gender stereotypes.”
  
  In the Social Sciences, your child will be encouraged to explore the “…development and persistence of gender stereotypes (for example, by researching the #MeToo movement).””
  
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  July 1, 2023 4:06pm
  - Ehlana
    
    “consider how biological sex has been constructed”.
    
    So, they’ll be studying Psalm 139, a treasure of the people of the Treaty, as I believe non-Maori New Zealanders are now known, “For You created my innermost parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to You, because I am awesomely and wonderfully made;”?
    
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    July 1, 2023 4:31pm
  - JohnRidd
    
    Thanks Mod.
    Also, my comment is about the nature of the RSE guidelines, but I am also very grumpy about the shutting down of views that contradict the narrative.
    
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    July 1, 2023 4:56pm
Suze Wainwright

Labour Twitterati no longer seem to be referring to the National Party as the Handmaid’s Tale – I guess there’s been feedback from the focus groups…

Even outrage at the $500k donation seems a bit muted, although the Kiri Allan affair is definitely a right wing plot (in collaboration between National and their owned mainstream media, lol)
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July 1, 2023 9:13am
- Tony Stuart
  
  On the Kiri Allan issue, one Labour bloke has accused a number of senior public servants of colluding with the National Party’s dirty tricks unit….
  
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  July 1, 2023 9:20am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Ah, that must be it!
    
    Heh, maybe there are some public servants who are sick of being forced to say karakia at every single meeting…
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:34am
  - Colville
    
    Yeah, DoC is so closely aligned with National Party dirty tricks…. Penny Nelson that outspoken Nats supporter… //
    
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    July 1, 2023 9:58am
  - SoloView
    
    Hi Tony.
    I’m interested – can you provide a name or link to an article about the Labour bloke for me.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:18am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Here’s the tweet in question:
      
      https://twitter.com/gumdigger/status/1674515615535738889
      
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      July 1, 2023 12:35pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘Labour Twitterati’
  
  is that a euphemism for New Zealand mainstream media .
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:35am
Jack5

Red Radio veteran Kim Hill seemed to be as much in a debate as an interview this morning. She was talking with Emily Hanford, an American education jouranalist.

The bone gnawed on was phonics in learning to read.

The email feedback on the issue was a deluge, Hill said later.

With NZ education standards diving in comparison with similar countries abroad, this issue will grow. It will divert Labour’s core support, teachers, in the run-up to the general election.
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July 1, 2023 9:14am
- Tom Hunter
  
  The email feedback on the issue was a deluge, Hill said later.
  
  Which way? I ask because even the godforsaken schools of NYC have dumped “Whole Learning” and apologised for fucking up their kids reading. Phonics for the Win:
  
  The chancellor of New York City Schools, David C. Banks, announced a dramatic overhaul of the city’s reading curricula on Tuesday. He admitted that the current system, which is based on progressive ideas of “whole language” instruction, is “fundamentally flawed” and scientifically unsound.
  
  “It’s not your fault. It’s not your child’s fault. It was our fault,” he said of New York’s disastrous reading scores, which show that only 49 percent of children in New York public schools are proficient in reading. “This is the beginning of a massive turnaround.
  
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  July 1, 2023 12:27pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    After I’d read Why Johnny Can’t Read and studied the Montessori method, as well as simply remembering how I had been taught to read, I became a strong advocate of the phonic method, and I remember one day speaking to a “reading recovery” teacher–this is in the mid-90s, mind you, and literacy was already manifestly on the decline–and she was a disciple of the look-say/whole-word method which requires kids to guess words from context, not to sound them out.
    
    She admitted the number of reading recovery students she was helping had grown over the previous years and the average age was getting younger. I asked her how they helped these kids to read. She said–and I shit you not–by using phonics. Apparently the doctrine from the Colleges of Education was that phonics is not appropriate for very young children but a “valuable aid” for older kids with reading difficulties.
    
    Those dirty fuckers have debilitated at least two generations of children with their fucked-up theories. It’s a criminal act. It especially affects marginal learners and disheartens the rest. A few still do well because they have switched-on parents.
    
    One of the most painful things I ever witnessed was a child reading from a school primer, reading those simple words on the left page and constantly looking at the illustration on the right page to try–so very desperately–to guess what the word was that they hadn’t yet memorised. Horrible. Criminal.
    
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    July 1, 2023 6:11pm
Swifty

I have read this twice and I’m none the wiser:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/132456657/tiaki-taonga-to-spearhead-protection-of-mori-taonga

It would have been nice if some concrete examples were given to explain the purpose and implications of these proposals.
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July 1, 2023 9:34am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s notification that everything referenced in the Wai 262 claim is to be granted
  
  https://www.mbie.govt.nz/business-and-employment/business/intellectual-property/matauranga-and-taonga-maori-and-the-intellectual-property-system/
  
  https://www.henryhughes.com/site/news/waitangi-tribunal-report-on-flora-and-fauna-wai-262.aspx#:~:text=Commonly%20known%20as%20the%20%E2%80%9Cflora,and%2For%20utilising%20Maori%20knowledge.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:55am
Tony Stuart

There’s an interesting story in Stuff this morning by Bridie Wilton, on why parliamentary staff are so reluctant to complain about the behaviour of their employer:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132456519/why-its-so-hard-for-staff-to-report-mps-for-inappropriate-or-bullying-behaviour

Now you can see why Chris Hipkins and Kiri Allan have been so pedantic about the term “formal complaint” in their various media interviews this week. Staff in ministerial offices know that a “formal complaint” against their Minister will have severe consequences for their own career, and that’s why they often speak under the condition of anonymity.

It was also worthy of note that Chris Hipkins refused to deny that other MPs had discussed Kiri Allan’s behaviour with him, which suggests that the journalist who asked the question, Jenna Lynch from Newshub, knows exactly what has happened here.
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July 1, 2023 9:41am
- Vercingetorix
  
  Chris Hipkins yesterday said that sometimes public servants don’t perform and they get unhappy about being told off.
  
  That is disingenuous for two reasons.
  
  Firstly not meeting expectations does not deserve being screamed at.
  
  Secondly, and more importantly, public servants right now are trying to roll out stupid and broken policies. When they fail, it is likely that these Ministers are lashing out at public servants.
  
  Imagine being given 24 hours to design a government investment in a commercial ski field that your Minister has just described as a “taonga”. You’d be thinking what an idiotic idea.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:04am
  - kowtow
    
    “taonga”. You’d be thinking what an idiotic idea.’
    
    Actually I have very little , in fact , no sympathy .
    
    Extremely well paid compared to most . Great indoor conditions and not one single one of them has any doubt that te principles of te treaty of w are the best things since Capt Cook sliced bread on board the HMS Endevour .
    They’ve happily , indeed possibly colludely , gone along with the active undermining of our constitution for decades now .
    
    An egregious assault on the very principles of democracy , that we are all being forced to live with and now they’re crying foul over a bollocking .
    
    While the rest of us were locked up , lost livelihoods , savings , taxed to the eye balls and now witnessing a silent coup to steal New Zealand they had solid gold employment.And would do anything to keep the gravy train going .
    
    Fuck ’em . There’s too many of them and they’re far too precious .
    
    Learn to code.
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:44am
- DeepBlue
  
  Chippy’s interview was refreshing.
  
  Close-up filming of his face to catch any twitch. Jenna Lynch kept repeating her questions and other reporters let her go on, there was no friendly Tova-esque distraction.
  
  The one answer Chippy couldn’t say was NO. Jenna was over the target for sure.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:07am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Jenna must be worried that Labour will lose the election
    
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    July 1, 2023 6:29pm
- Mike
  
  It was a good story, especially referencing that since Mallard’s inquiry into parliamentary behavior nothing has changed: politicians are irredeemable bullies and worse, and senior public servants are too cowardly to stand up to them. Departmental officials in parliamentary offices are somewhat protected, but the worst cases are among the eager young political appointees, who are widely victimized and have no real employment protections.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:19am
- greybeard
  
  “Staff often had strong party and personal loyalties, which also made them reluctant to complain. For many, aged in their early twenties, it was their first professional job.”
  
  Combine the above with Ministers who are new to Parliament, inexperienced in staff relations, ignorant of their portfolios , overpaid and full of self-importance and surely you have a recipe for trouble.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:56am
blue collar

My brother is involved with King Charles property management .
Reports 450 million quid profit despite headlines trying to make out the king is struggling .
Kings portfolio in line with uk market ups n downs .
Nothing to see , just hope ginger n whinger get bugger all
Interestingly he reckons organising the coronation was a breeze compared to the queens funeral .
Something to with the myriad of protocols around flags .
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July 1, 2023 9:50am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
There are two links to explain this:

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/how-maori-entitlement-attitude-is-harming-to-their-race/
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July 1, 2023 9:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Kerre Woodham pulling in $80 from the Govt (Net Taxpayer)
  This is what is wrong with NZ.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:01am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    $80K**
    
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    July 1, 2023 10:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  In the second link Julian Batchelor talks of ‘character.’
  Maori would call this ‘Mana’ imo.
  
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  July 1, 2023 10:06am
Opie

The insane greens have launched a housing policy.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2023/07/newshub-nation-exclusive-greens-launch-new-housing-policy-which-would-allow-developers-to-build-higher.html

I’m not sure which is stupider, 6 storey buildings full of unemployed, unremovable losers in the middle of hard working residents (4 storeys of this is already bad enough), or that it’s being reported as going 1/3rd higher than what is currently allowed.

4 storeys to 6 is of course a 50 percent increase, not 1/3. This is why these people can’t be trusted to make decisions (wellington speed limit another maths error) nor the media be relief upon to do anything but publish the press releases.

Remember when they used to teach maths in school?
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July 1, 2023 10:21am
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING.

J.K. Rowling gives @josh a real telling-off …..

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1674814345719476227

😛 😛 😛
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July 1, 2023 11:01am
Tony Stuart

One of Maggie’s Twitter besties has posted a link to the latest Downfall video, and there are no prizes for guessing who the central character is…

https://twitter.com/aniobrien/status/1674653754518544384

Bonus points are awarded for the use of the phrase “as useless as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest”…
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July 1, 2023 11:03am
- Swifty
  
  Hahaha!
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:42am
Hugh Jarse

I am not sure if I have copied this link correctly, my apologies if I haven’t got it right. You may have to go to the crime section of the NZ Herald to read it, it’s worth. There are no cis gender white males or females involved in committing this crime Marama. This was an unprovoked cowardly pack mentality attack on an individual who wore the wrong coloured clothing. And the Judge managed to manipulate the system enough to put most of them to Home D instead of imprisonment where they belong. It says so much about New Zealand today under this Labour government it makes you want to weep.

NZ Herald

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July 1, 2023 11:28am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Thanks Mod (-:
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:37am
- Ghost
  
  There should be no discounts for this, our justice system is pathetic.
  
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  July 1, 2023 11:41am
Ghost

Must buy some more popcorn

Multiple whistleblowers with access to restricted government information have claimed first-hand knowledge about U.S. activity involving UFOs, Sen. Marco Rubio said this week.

Rubio, vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, revealed in an interview with NewsNation that current and former government employees with high-level security clearances have “over the last couple of years” shared information with the committee involving what are now referred to as unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAPs.

Article

Rubio: Recent UFO whistleblower isn’t the only one

Rubio, Other whistleblowers have come forward secretly
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July 1, 2023 11:52am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Treaty of Waitangi, the original and what happened in 1975.
This is a dam good explanation of who was involved and how it all started. It is 53 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVgY03s6Tqc
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July 1, 2023 12:00pm
Maggie Pie

Anyone in the city wanting to beat the petrol price rise, suggest you get over to the BP in Epsom. They’ve actually lowered their prices!
Filled up there about 10 days ago with 98 and it was $154.50. Pressed ‘fill’ again this morning and it was only $143.80. No waiting. No queues.
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July 1, 2023 12:12pm
- greybeard
  
  Am I the only one to see the flaw in this argument ?
  MP, could it be that it required less fuel the second time to “fill ‘er up” , hence the lower price?
  Or maybe you filled it up with 91 instead of 98 ?
  
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  July 1, 2023 12:23pm
Nickc2

Will the Govt shut down Mcdonalds as a result of this senseless Black Power behaviour?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/black-power-members-carried-out-brutal-unprovoked-attack-on-man-at-taranaki-mcdonalds/EIABLTYBENEWDHPJCZ6YRIRXTU/
NB: More Home Detention dished out!
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July 1, 2023 12:16pm
Chris Nisbet

Well, don’t go thinking the police won’t go giving people ‘speeding’ tickets for driving at a reasonable speed on those roads where the limit has recently been reduced to idiotic levels.
I’ve just received an infringement notice for driving 61km/h on Chapel Rd, Botany, which now has a 50km/h limit.
Sigh.
Yes, yes, I know, if I just drove below the idiotic speed limit I wouldn’t get a ticket.
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July 1, 2023 12:28pm
Maggie Pie

PARIS or Bakhmut? 🙁

https://twitter.com/doyaksec/status/1674696026517544961
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July 1, 2023 12:42pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The start of the European Civil War between the indigenous Europeans and Islamic Invaders??? This includes the UK.
  
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  July 1, 2023 1:19pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Multi Kulti. And as my partner just said…this would have been Amerika as well if it wasn’t for the Second Amendment.
    
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    July 1, 2023 1:58pm
  - kowtow
    
    November 13 2015 ?
    
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    July 1, 2023 2:03pm
- nathie
  
  Hmmm despite the violent destruction …. not a pothole in sight!
  
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  July 1, 2023 2:52pm
alan

A friend in Spain sent me this. It is a model of what is on the Turin Shroud.
https://youtu.be/bJCjCagWdW4
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July 1, 2023 12:47pm
- Mike
  
  Notorious medieval fake still amazes credulous pilgrims. Some of these punters probably believe Leonardo Da Vinci attended the Last Supper – how else could he have captured the image so well?
  
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  July 1, 2023 1:10pm
- mandk
  
  Why are the wounds so evenly distributed across the body?
  
  And why is there no view of his back?
  
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  July 1, 2023 2:00pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Becos he’s laying on it, silly!
    
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    July 1, 2023 2:18pm
- kowtow
  
  Thanks for posting.
  Great work.
  
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  July 1, 2023 2:00pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Thank you for posting alan. It is proven.
  This is what Jesus went thru for our sins.
  
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  July 1, 2023 2:04pm
Benedict Yu

Sweden famously refused to resort to lockdowns during COVID. It therefore offers a natural experiment to illustrate the consequences of that decision.

Politicians all over the world were critical of Sweden, including New Zealand politicians.

I have examined monthly excess deaths across Europe for the last two years.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Excess_mortality_-_statistics

Sweden has had the lowest average excess deaths of any large European country since January 2021.

In the first four months of 2023, the monthly average of excess deaths is negative. ie fewer people are dying than would have been expected based on historical deaths.

Correlation is not causation. However this is a remarkable picture. Sweden stands out from countries such as Australia, the UK, Germany, Spain, and New Zealand, which are continuing to experience high excess deaths.

For example, the UK is being overwhelmed with cardiac deaths:

“Nearly 100,000 more deaths involving heart conditions and stroke than usual since pandemic began”

https://tinyurl.com/mrxfwz6

The data certainly calls into question the impact of severe lockdowns on ‘all causes’ mortality.
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July 1, 2023 1:32pm
- kowtow
  
  Wasn’t just “politicians” critical .
  
  Their agents , the media pardy were full on feral against anyone who dared say the S word.
  Granny killers !
  
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  July 1, 2023 1:53pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Good to see you here again, Benedict. I trust the nastiness that saw step back is now in the past?
  
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  July 1, 2023 5:09pm
- Observer of Life
  
  Welcome back BY!
  
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  July 2, 2023 3:15pm
Gravelroad

So two animal abusers and poachers who shot a bull and a steer with a crossbow got away with it.
Not consequences. Name suppression, see ya later boys.
Just as well it wasn’t a couple of seals down Kaikoura way maimed and left to die a painful death on a rock, eh…….
“The penalties for harassing, disturbing, injuring or killing a marine mammal under the Marine Mammals Protection Act 1978 are up to two years’ imprisonment or a fine of up to $250,000.”
What is it with the justice system that we have now?
Is it because town people have been conditioned to hate cows that this animal cruelty is acceptable?
And where is the SPCA? Silent.
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July 1, 2023 2:05pm
Captain Mainwaring

Breathless reporters are telling us how much the petrol price has gone up since the end of the excise tax reduction, but they seem surprised that the diesel price hasn’t changed. Of course excise tax doesn’t apply to diesel, diesel vehicles pay for their use of the roads through RUCs, but there’s no reporting on how much that has increased by.
And of course the bludgers driving electric cars continue to use the roads for free !
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July 1, 2023 2:10pm
- mandk
  
  I think you mean those high-income, subsidised bludgers driving for free on the roads that everyone else paid for.
  
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  July 1, 2023 2:44pm
- AitchW
  
  RUC has doubled. The rate varies according to the size of the vehicle.
  
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  July 1, 2023 3:24pm
Ghost

Good interview

Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Douglas Murray and Peter Lloyd about the backlash against LGBTQ rights after gay activists at a NYC pride march chanted “we’re coming for your children”.

YouTube
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July 1, 2023 3:01pm
Ghost

Ah, General Florg, you aren’t the only one.

General Florg of the planet Graxon V has visited Earth – but he’s having trouble understanding humans as he’s never encountered a species with so many genders. Earth leaders try to explain.

YouTube
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July 1, 2023 3:06pm
Maggie Pie

Here we go….
french bestie tweets just a few moments ago from outside the Louvre

https://twitter.com/ClementLanot/status/1674864880409534485
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July 1, 2023 4:31pm
- Ghost
  
  Awww, I used to like your posts, but Elon has closed Twitter off and no one without an account can view it anymore.
  
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  July 1, 2023 4:50pm
  - H. Upmann
    
    Thanks Ghost. I thought lack of Twitter access must have been something to do with me using a VPN.
    
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    July 1, 2023 4:57pm
    - Ghost
      
      Nope,
      
      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/twitter-bars-unregistered-lurkers-from-peeking-at-tweets-for-now/ar-AA1dgVuz
      
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      July 1, 2023 5:00pm
      - H. Upmann
        
        I will skip registering for now, am sure will survive the lack of peeking ability.
        
        I am over having my email address sold off by supposedly ethical companies only to be plagued with junk. At 75kg I don’t need to lose weight, suffer from any type of pain, am not constipated, nor want to invest in any amazing new technology!
        
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        July 1, 2023 5:30pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        H. Upmann Simplelogin is your solution.
        
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        July 1, 2023 6:12pm
Ghost

If not for who his father is this wouldn’t even be in the media. Noise complaint because concrete truck was too early.

Max Key’s MTK Capital noise breach: Former PM’s son’s company gets noise complaint on Auckland housing project
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July 1, 2023 4:54pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Oh AOC.

https://libertyresolve.com/breaking-aoc-busted-big-time/
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July 1, 2023 5:45pm
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  It’s almost like she’s a plant from a foreign power.
  
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  July 1, 2023 6:48pm
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It’s cold, leave them there, they’ll soon come down

A group of armed teenagers is on the roof of an Auckland youth justice facility and in a stand-off with police.

Police said they were alerted to the incident at Korowai Manaaki Youth Justice Residence in Wiri at 12:40pm.

Oranga Tamariki deputy chief executive Mike Bush confirmed to Newshub its staff are assisting with the incident at the facility.

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July 1, 2023 6:28pm
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  While they’re freezing in the cold, fire up a bbq below and have a hot drinks and pies caravan pull up as well.
  
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  July 1, 2023 6:50pm
- mandk
  
  Yes, they sure learned from the way the incident at the Christchurch OT facility was handled.
  
  Get up onto the roof and you get free KFC!
  
  I wonder what odds the TAB are offering on this not being the last.
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Nek minit they will be burning mattresses like the prisoners did at Paremoremo.
    The mattresses were replaced. I would have left the bastards to sleep on the cold floor.
    
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    July 2, 2023 8:58am
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NZer In Exile @ 6:12 – sorry but I must have clicked Report rather than Uptick. My apologies.

Thank you for the tip, I will add Simplelogin.
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  No problem. Hopefully I won’t end up in the cells for the night 😀
  
  SL is now owned by protonmail. It’s part of my armory against big tech and other internet parasites. I’d suggest watch a couple of videos on using SL before diving in. I’d also suggest don’t point your aliases at some big tech mailbox (because they too are leeching off your personal data and destroying your privacy).
  
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  July 1, 2023 8:41pm
Manolo

Aren’t Macron and his Frogs having a good time with their peaceful guests?
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  Macron blaming it on ‘social media’….no mention of Muslims or Islam.
  
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