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cmm

He took the best offer.
Cindy offered him baubles and a $3bn slush fund.
Bill told him to take a ride on a fire truck.
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June 22, 2023 11:10am
- Charmaine Hawke
  
  He will do the same again and anyone who says he refuses to deal with Labour is an idiot. Winston will always do what is best in the short term interests of Winston.
  
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  June 22, 2023 11:23am
  - Artcroft
    
    Absolutely. He’ll sit on the cross benches and claim independence, but do daily deals with Labour, including ethnic waiting lists. And accuse anyone who challenges him of being racist. He has no shame.
    
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    June 22, 2023 1:53pm
  - paulscott
    
    Yes. The statement that he will not work with labour was said ” in its present form ” which was when Ardern was leading, So it is very difficult for people looking for resistance to the insanity from WHO Gates and Tigray terrorist Tedros,
    
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    June 25, 2023 4:29am
- Weetbix3ways
  
  Whatever gets Peters the most power is what Peters will pursue. The policies and alliances required are means to that end.
  Don’t be fooled again.
  
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  June 22, 2023 11:27am
  - Bloody Dago
    
    Remember that quite a lot of his supporters are pushing up daisy’s or on a mantle piece, 6 years is a long time in politics. Its all up to MSM (Media Party) if he is useful to keep the Nat’s out office they will promise him everything. TBH he should on the pothole detail up in NorthLand to repent for damage he has done to this country.
    
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    June 22, 2023 3:48pm
- Hacked-Off
  
  Nothing more to add CMM. Guilty as charged and bang him up for the rest of his natural life. Only a shame Jacinda is not in the dock with him. Unfortunately there are still fools out there that will vote for him.
  
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  June 22, 2023 11:32am
  - paulscott
    
    Because of the Medical fascism from WHO and UN which no one else will address. Much less Seymour.
    
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    June 25, 2023 4:31am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Principled, and not entirely wrong-headed, by Bill there. There’s no way he could have known that Jacinda would be handed not one but two pieces of completely undeserved electoral gold, in the Christchurch atrocity and Covid. Without those, her and her Government’s utter incompetence would have become apparent far sooner and we’d have got rid of them before they were able to do real damage. They’re now doing that, in every area of New Zealand life, and we can only pray that it’s not too late to salvage something
  
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  June 22, 2023 1:53pm
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Albert of course Bill English couldn’t of foreseen the opportunities for the political theatre that allowed Ardern to capture the population but he should of and could of foreseen what allowing a paid up socialist WEF prodigy taking over the full apparatus of the states power may entail. The fact that he didn’t and neither did the rest of his caucus illustrates how politically naive they really were and how the right had just fallen into monetarism. They had and have no response to the progressive bs that they are up against which is why we have to suffer Luxon and his lack lustre offering of monetary good management but little or no effective stand against the neo Marxist and applied post modernist attack that the country is under.
    
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    June 22, 2023 4:52pm
    - paulscott
      
      Absolutely ., and the people looked at weak woke Luxon Light and the zombie ginger nut and already that couldn’t tell the difference .
      
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      June 25, 2023 4:36am
- Stellaboxer
  
  Completely wrong National offered them all the baubles of office and little else NZF were treated like also rans. Labour offered anything they asked for and they got it new Hercules Ron Marks minister of defence, Peter’s foreign minister so on and so forth. National lost the 2017 election because of arrogance and animosity. I’m no NZF supporter but this myth that Peter’s and co betrayed the country and allowed in this clown car government is just boring Nat propaganda. What did labour give NZF that National couldn’t of had THEY not been intransigent and petty. So Bill telling him to take a ride on a fire truck delivered the country into the hands of the most immature ideologically driven government in the history of our country and it’s nothing to do with Bill? Fucking give me a break and stop peddling this nonsense. If the National negotiators had not been so self serving and been a little more politically aware of just what Arderns version of Labour was they would of swallowed their pride and given Peter’s his bottom lines if only to save the country from this disaster.
  
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  June 22, 2023 4:20pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Really? If Peters & co had not want the clown govt (2017/20), they could have walked away at any time.b
    Peters & co had no principles, evidence of this was his legal suit against the previous National govt or his accusation to the media that National had indulged in hacking to obtain details of the 2018 budget. Accusations that were shown to be false, Peters never accepted this & he never apologised.
    
    It is garbage to blame National for what happened.
    
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    June 22, 2023 8:04pm
    - yossarian
      
      Exactly. He sat by and watched the country go down the drain and did nothing.
      
      He could have pulled the pin on the govt at anytime but he was too busy in the koru lounge to care about that.
      
      Most of us could see Jacinda was a manipulating SOB, why couldn’t he? Simple, he was as taken in by her as a SUV driving soccer mum who gets their news from the latest women’s magazine. He was so smitten they pushed he Puapua in front of him and he didn’t even see it.
      
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      June 23, 2023 12:26pm
  - paulscott
    
    Yes absolutely.. but Bill English may have had a very resistant caucus to deal with also …
    
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    June 25, 2023 4:38am
Warren

Getting one right a year doesn’t suggest brilliance but you would have to say it’s probably one of the best the media have delivered.
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June 22, 2023 11:13am
NothingLeft

~~Insanity~~ Narcissistic.
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June 22, 2023 11:19am
Phronesis

Avarice would be closer to the truth, but that isn’t a recognised legal defence (yet).
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June 22, 2023 11:26am
The Other Enoch

Tremain is still our best cartoonist by a country mile. He has the ability to capture the moment without resorting to the tribal politics that we see from some of the cartoonists that Stuff and The Herald prefer.

So sad that Stuff and The Herald are so weak and woke that they are afraid to publish his cartoons.
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June 22, 2023 11:32am
- Grunter
  
  Add to that woke list the ODT that sacked Tremain in the first place. Now that he is independent he is even better. I canceled my ODT sub years ago after they ditched Tremain there was only BS left to read. And they will never make a come, they have lost, and continue to lose their audience.
  
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  June 22, 2023 2:19pm
burt

I guess like all of us he wanted to see 100,000 houses built and an end to poverdee.
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June 22, 2023 11:36am
- Piniwi
  
  Funny Burt now today they are cheering as they claim to have built 12000 public housing houses. That is since 2017. Yahoo.
  
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  June 22, 2023 12:39pm
  - yossarian
    
    Built or bought?
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:27pm
Stephen Russell

More self-interest and self-indulgence than insanity. It is not as if Peters actually gives a stuff about the country: it’s all about him.
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June 22, 2023 11:36am
- Cassandra
  
  Yet he still has a following and might even be back this time. The problem (one of many) is that NZF gets 4.8% then most of those are centre-right votes wasted, possibly allowing Chippy back in. NZF on 5.1% is a challenge; on 4.8% it’s a nightmare.
  
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  June 22, 2023 11:42am
  - PaulL
    
    Only if centre right voters are so dumb as to vote for him.
    
    As always, don’t outsource the choice of government to Winston. Vote for a party that is very clear what government they will support. If you’re centre right, that’s National or ACT. Any other vote will be wasted or uncertain.
    
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    June 22, 2023 1:59pm
- RoboRob
  
  Bet me too it. Was going to post
  
  ‘Greed M`Lord’
  
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  June 22, 2023 11:55am
Harro104

Can I please go to the parallel world were Bill English and the smart people had been running the country for the last 6 years?
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June 22, 2023 11:38am
slightlyrighty

I will never forgive Peters for what he inflicted on our country in a fit of Utu.
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June 22, 2023 11:52am
Matt Long

Winston says all the right things before an election.
Unfortunately, Matt King’s being the latest party, the alternative freedom parties look more hopeless every day.
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June 22, 2023 12:14pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  If anybody thought Matt King will make even an iota of difference should get their head checked. Waste of time, waste of money and he lost the chance to be a MP in NAT/ACT government and even a ministerial role. Feel sorry for him. Next best thing is to see whether he can become the mayor of Northland.
  
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  June 22, 2023 12:16pm
- PaulL
  
  All of those minor parties are wasted votes, as are TOP and the like.
  
  If you want a National led govt, vote National or ACT. If you want a Labour led government, vote Labour or Green or TPM.
  
  Choose which of the ones you vote for in the options for you based on which policies you lean more towards.
  
  A vote for any other party will be a wasted vote or a vote in which you are unsure which side of politics will form government. That is doubly true of a vote for Winston.
  
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  June 22, 2023 2:01pm
- paulscott
  
  yes, there is 2% of the pivotal freedom people looking for a home. With Matt Sheldon leaving the Matt King Democracy party , that finishes that hope. Peters is continuously making anti WHO noises, … [ not large noises,] but when you compare it to the simple minded Medical arrogance of Seymour or woke Luxon you can see where those votes will go.
  
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  June 25, 2023 4:44am
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

That drunken dwarf should be jailed for ruining New Zealand. I hope his party perishes in this election and dissolved.
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June 22, 2023 12:17pm
Nigel Kearney

He’s not insane, though people who vote for him may be. He just likes having power and attention, and doesn’t much care about how he gets it.
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June 22, 2023 12:22pm
Biscuit

‘Now listen here, sunshine, don’t you get all smart-alecky on me…’
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June 22, 2023 1:13pm
Maggie Pie

I hear where Winston maintains his own polling shows NZF @ just over 5%

What he needs to understand, is half his voters will be dead by October 14.
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June 22, 2023 1:19pm
- zulumonster
  
  That is true Maggie – but it is also true that another chunk of voters move into the realm of the permanently bewildered at the same time, so his potential voter numbers remain steady …
  
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  June 22, 2023 2:45pm
- Bloody Dago
  
  Touche’ MP – that’s what I reckon
  
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  June 22, 2023 3:51pm
- paulscott
  
  Wager with you $200, NZ First will be in Parliament.
  
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  June 25, 2023 4:45am
surfing

Lefties hate Tremain, they call him a racist and so on. But Tremain does portray people of different races in negative light.

Winston Peters is interesting because he is one of those people whose character transcends race. I listen to Peter’s words rather than look at his skin colour. As it should be.

Unfortunately then we also have knobs like Rawiri Waititi/Harawira etc whose characters are defined by their hatred of long dead people.
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June 22, 2023 1:25pm
David Garrett

Although it may be a case of what is known as “simultaneous discovery”, I claim to be the first person on here to label Peters as The Great Charlatan”. All the above comments about him are spot on – he is utterly devoid of integrity, and has managed to make a career out of fooling the gullible and thus keep his snout firmly in the trough.
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June 22, 2023 1:32pm
- surfing
  
  Yes, Winston is a disappointing man. He says great things before an election, but follows through with nothing.
  
  Shane Jones is similar. You know when Shane Jones is not in government because he starts making sense.
  
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  June 22, 2023 1:37pm
- Observer of Life
  
  To me W Peters laughs at those who vote for him. He knows they’re gullible idiots.. and loves it.
  
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  June 22, 2023 7:29pm
Rusty

I don’t know why he has jumped into bed over the years with the Labour socialist mob first Helen Clarke and then Jacinda Ardern.

All this talk from Winston lately that Labour are traitors to NZ’s liberal democracy might sound appealing to conservatives but what he did in 2017 is just unforgivable.
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June 22, 2023 2:42pm
andrewo

Sould read “Utu M’Lord”
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June 22, 2023 4:02pm
Tony Stuart

Ah Tremain, you’ve done it again…
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June 22, 2023 5:27pm
coge

National, under Chris Luxon eagerly endorsed the dehumanisation and segregationist policies of Ardern’s covid doctrine of early 2022. Consequently shearing off about 10 to 15% of their electoral support. Those votes aren’t coming back. Peter’s wasn’t in Parliament at that time and he’s listened to the people who resisted the Govt at the time. Naturally many of them are grateful to him, and NZF is now a realistic voting prospect for many of them. They simply won’t vote for any of the segregationists who currently occupy Parliament.
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June 22, 2023 5:59pm
- Observer of Life
  
  Coge: And Winnie will once again sit back and laugh at the gullible idiots, as he soothingly talks to them about what he knows they want to hear. Knowing he will never ever come through with the goods.
  
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  June 22, 2023 7:32pm
igm

How about this?
https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/06/22/we-should-not-stand-for-this/
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