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NeverMindTheBollocks

Vic, eh. Bought Wellington TCol for $10, sold the buildings to Ryman for $28m & are now closing down teacher training, ironically on the grounds of cost.

Classic asset stripper behaviour. Ron Brierley in his prime would have been proud of Grant Guilford’s effort here.

And where has the money been squandered? Rebranding and a grossly expanded marae ($35m of which $23m comes from the University).
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June 23, 2023 8:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And Vic wants to do away with offering Geophysics.
  Once their Geophysics unit was world-leading under Prof Evison.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/fears-victoria-university-restructure-may-spell-loss-of-world-leading-geoscience-expertise/JYHFOPIMXBHMNLMGGDBFYDFXA4/
  
  Ah well, who cares that the Uni sits on the Wellington Fault?
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:47am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Bearded, cloth cap and greatcoat wearing hand wringing sooks, both faculty members and students. Of course, you can still waste your time at Vic and do an Arts degree majoring in Maori Studies, or Maori Resource Management (that would be a dead easy course, just kill and consume everything you can get your hands on). There’s also the highly useful Samoan Studies major. You can also get a Bachelor of Science majoring in computer games.
    
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    June 23, 2023 8:56am
    - kowtow
      
      No the cloth cap went the way of the moa.
      
      These days it’s either an outsized piece of greenstone or a bone fish hook, prominently displayed.
      
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      June 23, 2023 9:07am
      - Jack5
        
        Kowtow: that cap, now sometimes known as the “flat cap,” has made a comeback.
        
        The new fashion seems to have been sparked by an English TV series, “Peakie Blinders” (2013-2022).
        
        Lots of them selling on Ali Express under names like flat cap, newsboy cap, beret cap.
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/shortcuts/2019/mar/12/the-rise-of-flat-caps-genuinely-classless-or-a-way-for-wealthy-men-to-seem-authentic
        
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        June 23, 2023 9:40am
      - kowtow
        
        Oh shit , accidently reported Jack when I wanted to reply .Mods please ignore.
        
        Mea culpa.
        
        [Mod – Don’t worry about]
        
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        June 23, 2023 10:06am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Jack, nope, I reckon the flat cap made a comeback with that overly cool, inner city hipster, Karl Te Nana.
        
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        June 23, 2023 10:33am
  - Taieri
    
    And the US alumni of the Otago University are withdrawing their financial support for their Alma Mater, due to financial management failures and woke re-branding.
    Last year’s alone alumni and friends of the university donated $16.7 million (not all of it from the US).
    The management of the university is not overly worried though and disregards these concerns.
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/campus/donors-abandon-otago-university
    
    (paywalled)
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:01am
    - alex Masterley
      
      This alumni is following the US alumni and isnt giving any support to Otago University.
      If money can be wasted on a rebrand and statues then alumni support isnt required.
      
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      June 23, 2023 9:11am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Alumnus. You’re an alumnus.
        
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        June 23, 2023 9:23am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        But if alex wants to identify as a plurality then surely they can.
        
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        June 23, 2023 9:30am
      - kowtow
        
        And better yet , identifying in the lingo of the most genocidal , slave owning , colonisers of the lot .
        
        Cue Monty Python.
        
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        June 23, 2023 10:07am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Alumnus, alumni … I see Latin is also on the chopping block
        
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        June 23, 2023 10:34am
      - alex Masterley
        
        Ok ok, I didn’t do Latin at school.
        The point remains the same.
        
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        June 23, 2023 3:14pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Taieri, I stopped giving them a dime after they gave their sportswoman of the year to a man. I’ve also spoken with a couple of old Uni mates who have done well and have, in the past, donated some serious tin to OU. They have ceased as well. And the University is not worried? Of course they are not worried. They are just sacking faculty and staff and reducing courses. Why would they be worried? The lunatics are in the hall.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:40am
      - Taieri
        
        Taieri, I stopped giving them a dime after they gave their sportswoman of the year to a man.
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        It is not just that…a former University of Otago professor, one Colin Campbell-Hunt is on the record saying:
        “(…)the interests of an industry that in fact requires — but is free of — the most stringent legal controls over its knowingly irresponsible destruction of our present way of life(…)”
        
        This is about the oil industry.
        
        My first question is: what’s made our present way of life possible?
        My second question is: what’s the point of having university professors who do not understand how civilizations are formed and developed?
        My third question is: what’s is the point of having universities employing such professors?
        
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        June 23, 2023 12:00pm
  - Prince
    
    ‘the Wellington fault’.
    Apparently not. The Taniwha has moved south according to Maori Geoscience.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:39am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    One can only hope that some of the more questionalble humanities subjects might go on the scrap heap.
    
    But then that is a real world solution, and that is a world that many universties seem far removed from.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:29am
slightlyrighty

I received an addressed ‘letter’ from Chippie last night.

Obviously a mass mailout on parliamentary letterhead, but listing all of their ‘achievements’.

While it did not expressly ask for electoral support, the purpose of this was clear. Blatant Electioneering on the taxpayer dime.
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June 23, 2023 8:04am
- sirknz
  
  Was it on the back of a postage stamp?`
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:18am
- Nickc2
  
  I wrote ‘Return to Sender’ on mine, and posted it.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:47am
  - pdm
    
    I did the same a couple of weeks ago Nick. I added `Unsolicited Mail’ to the message I sent back.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:04am
    - Nickc2
      
      I would have liked to add that my letterbox has a ‘No Junk Mail’ notice on it but there was insufficient space on the envelope to express my thoughts on the matter.
      
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      June 23, 2023 9:11am
      - sirknz
        
        Unfortunately, taxpayer funded political party propaganda is exempt from the junk mail classification because they can.
        
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        June 23, 2023 9:46am
      - peterwn
        
        NZ Post and DX deliverers must deliver all addressed mail for their employers and cannot form any judgment whether it is junk or otherwise.
        Also unaddressed circulars from Government agencies or councils on matters of public interest (eg roadworks in your street) are delivered regardless of ‘no junk mail’ signs.
        
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        June 23, 2023 11:52am
  - gravedodger
    
    Thanks a bunch Nickc2 another cost to taxpayers?
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:42am
  - Paulus
    
    PO I understand do not Return to Sender or Redirect any more – too much bother – say unable to deliver, then bin the lot.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:31am
- lastmanstanding
  
  The Marxist Governments of NZ Australia and Canada are all using their natives as weapons in their war against democracy and freedom. They pretend to be standing up for them and so anyone who raises questions is described as a racist. In fact these Governments dont give a shit about the natives, They are just a pawn in the Marxist plan to divide and rule. I say call these arseholes for what they are.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:52am
  - Taieri
    
    The Marxist Governments of NZ Australia and Canada
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    I very much doubt that Karl Marx would have agreed with inclusion of his name within the above description. For all his faults, stupidity wasn’t one of them.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:04am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Divide and rule since forever. Most can’t see it. Gender, race, vaccine status. On it goes.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I thought no Electioneering until after July 14th?
  Who polices this?
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:59am
  - Prince
    
    Possibly the same people who wrote to Wood 16 times.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:40am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    No, 14th July is the start of the regulated period, when all spending needs to be accounted and within a budget of around $32,000 for an electorate candidate. You can spend as much as you have before then.
    
    Hipkins’ letter though is a party vote expense, and almost certainly paid for by the Parliamentary Service, better known as the long-suffering taxpayer. If it has the parliamentary crest on it, you’ve paid for it.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:43am
    - kowtow
      
      Funny when there’s been no accounting of arguably the biggest modern political bribe , the so called provincial growth fund.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:10am
- krazykiwi
  
  Mrs kk got the same letter. I didn’t get one. Feeling a little left out.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:36am
- Bob
  
  listing all of their ‘achievements’……..
  why?, would anyone mail out envelopes stuffed with blank letterhead paper!
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:56am
  - Ghost
    
    I think labour deserve recognition, they have achieved more than previous national governments
    
    Child poverty increase
    Poverty increase
    Cost of living increase
    Health sector in a mess
    Apartheid health system
    Police and justice in a mess
    Failing education system
    Students can’t be stuffed turning up to school
    Strike after strike after strike from a government that claimed there would be no strikes under them
    
    Not to forget their magical spending
    
    $1.9 billion mental health fund, where it’s gone no one knows
    $3 billion Shane jones bribe fund
    
    The list goes on and on. I’m surprised the letter is so small.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:02am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I this hope gets raised in Parliament on Tuesday.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:57am
- I remember when
  
  Does a large “?” count as a letter.
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:45pm
Maggie Pie

Lost me as soon as he said….”the best view was from the toilet”

https://twitter.com/HowThingsWork_/status/1671869099691974657
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June 23, 2023 8:05am
- Southern Raider
  
  It beggars believe that supposedly smart billionaires didn’t see that “homemade sub” and not think maybe this isn’t the best idea.
  
  It looks like something they would try and build on Top Gear but only to go 5m into a lake.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:10am
NeverMindTheBollocks

The President of Honduras has decreed that, following the death of 40 prisoners in a gaol riot, that gang member prisoners will be moved to offshore island prisons.

She’s got it right.
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June 23, 2023 8:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wonder if Special K knows of this, or is he too thick to comprehend?
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:04am
  - Flossie
    
    You wonder if he’s too
    thick??
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:34am
Lipo

Can anyone explain why a certain section of society is gifted millions of $$?
Crown signs over quarter share of 5G spectrum to Māori
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/crown-signs-over-quarter-share-of-5g-spectrum-to-maori/ILPGUGLZEZDGBASVQ7FSKITE4U/
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June 23, 2023 8:08am
- cmm
  
  Well that’s great news. The Maori leaders will look to the needs of their people. Maybe build some extra schools. Maybe a few clinics. Maybe some adult literacy/numeracy programmes….
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:24am
  - mawm
    
    They could start with some “lifestyle choices” education such as diet, exercise, chemical use, etc.
    
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    June 23, 2023 6:14pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Corruption !
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:37am
- Taieri
  
  Crown signs over quarter share of 5G spectrum to Māori
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  This was explicitly provided for in the Article 237 of Te Tiriti.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:06am
  - crikey
    
    Taieri: I think it’s like this – The Crown doesn’t sign over 1/4 share of the 5G spectrum to Maori, it signs it over to Maori business corporations (private businesses) much of whose income is untaxed.
    
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    June 23, 2023 5:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Votes from the Maori Elite, who will notify their subjects to vote Labour/Maori.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:08am
- Nickc2
  
  Is that another taxpayer gift to Mahuta Corp?
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:19am
- Loddenthinks
  
  I recall a cartoon I saw in a newspaper years ago. My recollection is it was Tom Scott but that may not be right. It was of a group of “Maori elite” about to go into a meeting with the government and showed them saying something along the lines of:
  
  “Now whatever happens, when we tell them that the broadcast frequencies are a traditional taonga, it’s REALLY important we keep a straight face.”
  
  How we laughed!
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:31am
  - Prince
    
    Pretty sure it wouldn’t have been Tom Scott.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:42am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Yeah, you’d think not – but this was maybe 20 years ago and it seems to be sticking in my noggin that it was him.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:01am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        More likely to be Garrick Tremain.
        
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        June 23, 2023 10:13am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        I remember it well, as you said, and was back in the days of Tom Scott.
        “…Remember to keep a straight face” always stuck with me. These days, I think they thoroughly believe their own bullshit and genuinely are in highly emotive states when on the topic anything Maori. Some minds are genuinely sick, and spreading as a mental virus.
        The sheer cheek of these scams, and yet there is also a clear cleverness at play too. Some of these elites are playing long games that go well beyond election cycles. Their people & useful idiots in the realms of academia, education and central and local government. Like rust they are. A bit of bog and sanding it not enough. This requires complete replacement of mechanical and structural parts.
        
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        June 23, 2023 11:39am
      - CJames
        
        Tom Scott did one (maybe the same one) where in the background, some is saying something like “I wonder if we can claim oxygen”
        
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        June 23, 2023 12:47pm
    - Stu2
      
      Actually it was
      
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      June 23, 2023 11:08am
  - plc
    
    It should be dredged up now as evidence to cancel him….isn’t that how it works?
    
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    June 23, 2023 3:55pm
- NothingLeft
  
  It’s the soft bigotry/racism of low expectations; that because Maori are (on average) performing badly compared to everyone else, majority feel sorry for them and offer political support to racist policies like this. Same as for underperforming minorities all over the west. It’s patronising sympathy for failure.
  
  You’ll never see such policies for high achieving minorities like immigrant north east asians or Jews.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:33am
- Simon
  
  Lol – and with their share Maori are supposed to JV with people who know how to use it.
  
  The shit weight the productive have to carry is too heavy now.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:21am
- burt
  
  Can anyone explain why a certain section of society is gifted millions of $$?
  
  It is only fair. If you dig around in old Maori pa sites you will not find any evidence of either overhead or underground cables so it is a reasonable conclusion that Maori had wireless before the colonials turned up.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:52am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Fox not doing so well.

https://libertyonenews.com/tucker-carlson-continues-to-build-his-team-as-more-fox-news-staffers-leave-the-network/
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June 23, 2023 8:10am
Southern Raider

For complete transparency I think we all deserve to know
– what is the total asset value held in NZ of James Cameron and his wife
– what is the total annual declared income in NZ by James Cameron and his wife

If you are going to grandstand by financially supporting a Marxist party that seeks to “tax the rich” it is only fair that you also feel the ongoing pain
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June 23, 2023 8:11am
- Ghost
  
  No, we don’t need to know that. James is a nz citizen. He has every right to donate to a party of his choice as do those who donate to National and act, I don’t see you demanding the same of them, or in your ideal democracy do you just demand such of those who support parties you don’t like.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:25am
  - Southern Raider
    
    He is a dual citizen plus likely has a whole lot of funds in offshore accounts.
    
    I think it’s perfectly logical to want to know if as he is funding a Marxist party who will punish those within single citizenship and all their assets and income in NZ
    
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    June 23, 2023 8:44am
    - Ghost
      
      So you support one rule for one group of people and one rule for another group of people. He can support who ever he wants, just as those who’ve donated over $10 million to National can support who ever they want. You don’t have a right to know anything just because you don’t support who he is donating to.
      
      One law for all should apply to everything, not just to what people believe in.
      
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      June 23, 2023 8:51am
      - Matt Long
        
        Especially if that law is 5he best money can buy.
        
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        June 23, 2023 10:53am
      - Matt Long
        
        More seriously I’m perturbed that foreign billionaires can easily buy NZ citizenship then use their resources to buy political influence.
        It’s different from say the Kaiser giving Lenin passage to Russia and financial resources to overthrow the Tsar and the democraticly elected parliament, but how much different?
        
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        June 23, 2023 11:44am
      - Ghost
        
        Is it any different than New Zealand billionaires giving $250,000 to National?
        
        Cameron moved to New Zealand, lives here, employees people here, works here. He should have every right to donate to a party of his choice. Do we not want wealthy businesses people to invest in New Zealand and move here, or just invest and not come here? Or would we rather they don’t invest in nz?
        
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        June 23, 2023 11:55am
      - Matt Long
        
        I don’t know, are we happy with people with connections to the CCP moving here a making political donations to parties?
        I would be happier if Cameron made his green propaganda movies elsewhere with some other taxpayer’s money.
        But no I don’t see an easy way to legislate against it, especially when most of Parliament and 5he public service are actively involved in brewing the Kool aid
        
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        June 23, 2023 2:38pm
      - mawm
        
        Ghost – I’d be very interested as to which country he is a tax resident. It is probably not NZ. Then, as the left did with Key, we should be told of his wealth, his tax payed and where, his trusts, the value of his homes (incl. address), his political party contributions (ie to the US Democrats), how much our government has funded his movies (and of course his movies to come), his partners’ wealth, etc. After all we want some even-handed exposure.
        
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        June 23, 2023 6:26pm
  - RRM
    
    You are right of course… but as someone who has worked in Wellington for over 15 years, I’m complete OVER seeing expat poms and yanks bring their sneering left wing attitudes here and play with our country like it’s some kind of petri dish or plaything for their socialist experiments.
    
    Hell- half of the green party MPs are these people. Nobody who holds citizenship of another country should even be allowed to vote here, much less stand for parliament on a party list. If they’re not 100% committed to the success of NZ then they should keep their mouths shut and mind their own business. IMHO.
    
    If they couldn’t create socialist Nirvana in their own countries, why do they feel entitled to do it to us here?
    
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    June 23, 2023 8:58am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Completely agree. They like to insert their world view on our councils, institutions and departments and if it all goes pear shaped they just jump back on a plane to where they came from.
      
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      June 23, 2023 9:07am
    - Nickc2
      
      NZ is the world’s political Test Lab. and thus every lunatic group on planet Earth has a Branch Office here.
      
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      June 23, 2023 9:26am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      They can pay tax though that’s ok they just can’t have a political opinion outside of the ones that you hold RRM? I guess you support immigration but only immigration that doesn’t challenge your position in the status quo?
      
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      June 23, 2023 1:54pm
      - sirknz
        
        More often than not, they come from countries that would not allow us to vote should we take up residence there.
        
        Voting in any of our elections, whether that be local body or national, should be restricted to NZ Citizens only as should being elected to either parliament or council, this should be a no brainer. This would bring us in to line with nearly all of our trading partners.
        
        You can try and make this about racism and opposing other’s political views, but this would make you wrong in this instance.
        
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        June 23, 2023 2:59pm
  - Taieri
    
    He has every right to donate to a party of his choice as do those who donate to National and act
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    Fair enough. And that’s why all donations should be disclosed to the public.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:08am
  - Simon
    
    “James is a nz citizen” Yet he isnt a New Zealander.
    
    NZ citizen is just fake govt.borg.nz label he has purchased. Like so many others,
    
    Its extremely unlikely he is paying NZ tax on his world wide income. Tax for the plebs but not him. Needs to be called out. Gweens taking money off someone like that.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:09am
- graham
  
  All I want to know …
  
  … has James Cameron bought a Tesla, and if so, did he claim the rebate?
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:31am
  - RoboRob
    
    Would put $100 on yes to both 🙂
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:04am
    - backster
      
      No it would be his wife who bought it.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:41am
  - Colville
    
    Billionaire Cameron wouldnt be buying a poxy $80K Tesla!
    
    ..but he is a rabid Greenie…so the “help” may drive them.?
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:00am
  - Surely Knott
    
    I would like to know what’s happening with his farm?
    The green donor was in the headlines last year. “Hollywood director James Cameron’s enviro-farm turns to dairy cow grazing”
    
    “James Cameron’s plans to convert his Wairarapa properties into organic veggie farms appear to have fallen short – with hundreds of cows now understood to be grazing in his paddocks.
    
    The Avatar film director owns more than 1500ha of land in South Wairarapa, and has been outspoken about the need for New Zealand to move away from agriculture to curb carbon emissions.”
    
    Yip sounds like a green voter.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hollywood-director-james-camerons-enviro-farm-turns-to-dairy-cow-grazing/VJQQYXRUUJKTPOBTG7GUQCETEA/
    
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    June 23, 2023 4:53pm
- Tomtoddy
  
  Cameron can give what he likes to whom he likes but he is showing unbelievably bad commercial judgement. Any one with the faintest whiff of a commercial brain wouldn’t even give the Green Marxist party used toilet paper.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:50am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Hollywood virtual signalling
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:08am
    - Matt Long
      
      He’s a vegan pushing, gaia worshipping wokist.
      I think he’s here because the taxpayer pays Him to make movies that push 5he green agenda.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:58am
      - miltonF
        
        Funny you say that. Saw a Disney plus ad for Avatar 2 yesterday. “The kiwi national treasure is back with Avatar 2. You can watch again and again with Disney plus.” Or something along those lines.
        
        I have NEVER heard of a Hollywood flick being advertised in that way before. It’s a “National treasure”.
        
        Now consider that we gave Cameron massive tax breaks to make this movie. Now consider that the concepts of the movie are essentially a “green utopia” and “colonialism/westerners bad”, and the whole thing comes out feeling like a psyop or govt propaganda campaign.
        
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        June 23, 2023 3:49pm
  - RoboRob
    
    I dont think the number of people Cameron would loose in the NZ market by supporting the Greens would make a jot of difference to him financially. It may even be beneficial on the assumption that youth vote Green and go to movies.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:13am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    Well, if you look at “Avatar, The Way of Water” you would see pretty strong Green themes.
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:03pm
    - Ehlana
      
      I saw the first Avatar movie. That was propoganda enough to put me off the second.
      
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      June 23, 2023 1:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Donald Trump Jr not welcome in Oz.
What a bunch of pussies.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/one-of-donald-trump-s-kids-is-not-welcome-in-australia-here-s-why/ss-AA1cTVej
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June 23, 2023 8:11am
- sirknz
  
  Eriksen argues that “Donald Trump Jr is an illegal drug-taking bigoted person who should not be allowed to enter Australia for the purpose of earning himself and possibly his father any “Campaign Contributions”
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  Ummm, I thought that was Hunter Biden. To my knowledge Trump Jr is a teetotaller, like his dad…
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:16am
  - RoboRob
    
    Lol I too thought that was a description of Hunter.
    
    Since we 100% know (from his guilty plea and laptop) that Hunter is a misogynistic, drug using, tax evading, firearms law violating ‘man’ who prostitutes woman on the side line, I look forward to him being banned from AU too.
    
    What is it the Dems were chanting last week, ‘One rule for all’?
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:17am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The Aussies have form for being morons, didn’t they stop the greatest tennis player in history from playing in the Australian Open because he wouldn’t declare his vaccination status?
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:37am
  - mawm
    
    He probably became the greatest since his competition all had impaired cardiac function. //snark.
    
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    June 23, 2023 6:34pm
Hugh Jarse

So looks like Hollywood big business is trying to influence the New Zealand election, as Golriz said large donations are “ rendering New Zealand’s democracy vulnerable to the influence of big money. Democracy is for everyone, not those with the deepest pockets”.
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June 23, 2023 8:14am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Golriz Ghahraman wants donations limited to $30,000. So by accepting $50,000 each from James Cameron and Lucy Lawless, are the Greens four times more hypocritical than Chris Luxon? Or is it a case of “rules for thee but not for me”?
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:26am
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    I think the answer are yes and yes Tony.
    
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    June 23, 2023 8:38am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Well, like Luxons wife possibly getting the Ev subsidy, that made Luxon a hypocrite by most lefties, so yes this is astonishing hypocrisy
    
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    June 23, 2023 8:40am
  - Lance
    
    But but but Tesla… Luxon… subsidy
    
    Don’t look at the Greens, wicked old National are guilty by virtue of who they are….
    and it’s different when the left do it
    
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    June 23, 2023 8:49am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    It is never hypocrisy to play by the current rules while asking for those rules to be changed.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:00am
  - RoboRob
    
    To be consistent we should treat the Greens the same way as Luxon. The law is currently the way it is, they would be stupid to not use it.
    
    That said, I expect the media that chased Luxon to also be consistent and attack the Greens for this too.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:20am
    - Prince
      
      Oh but their partners were not involved so not interesting to our media.
      
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      June 23, 2023 9:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Well according to a Blackrock recruiter caught in an undercover sting by James O’Keefe you can buy a US Senator for $10k.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq5DlaoE4eM&t=303s
    
    $50k must buy the whole Green Party.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:19am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

DA Alvin Bragg is all bragg?

https://libertyonenews.com/da-braggs-case-against-trump-after-federal-indictment-takes-a-turn/
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June 23, 2023 8:15am
Surely Knott

So James Cameron and Lucy Lawless donates $50k to the Greens.

So question how will the Greens wealth tax work with someone like Cameron.

Will he be only subject to Wealth tax on the assets that are in NZ? Or will the wealth tax include his offshore assets. Why would he put more of his wealth in NZ.

Or is it a case of covid restrictions and wealth tax for thee but not for me. Just like so many socialists aka David Farrier, and Robyn Malcolm Lorde, able to pop overseas to continue working in the USA while verbally supporting the fear campaign and extreme lockdown measures that closed businesses that were grounded in NZ.
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June 23, 2023 8:18am
- Rusty
  
  @Surely..
  
  James Cameron a Hollywood capitalist billionaire giving money to a neo-Marxist group called the Greens.
  
  These wealthy people are just hypocrites and drongos supporting political groups who want to destroy them.
  
  The elites are useful fools for Marxists in the west.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:23am
- Burtland
  
  if driving an ICE car is evil, why is international air travel still OK ?
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:44am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I thought NZ citizens are subject to tax on their world wide income.
  
  Should the Greens lunatic tax policy become law, amid my pain I will take huge portions of schadenfreude when (huh!) James Cameron pays full wallop of the asset tax.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:54pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The guy who put the banner on Fox News fired.
He only told the truth.

https://libertyonenews.com/bidens-wannabe-dictator-hero-responds-to-firing/
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June 23, 2023 8:18am
- krazykiwi
  
  I identify as non-Bidenary
  
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  June 23, 2023 2:21pm
Bridgenag

This is from America…The frightening thing is that it all applies here.
“…these are the people who want to disarm you, censor you, and monopolize the information you see. these are the people who claim primacy over you in terms of prerogative on what your children should learn.
it’s intolerable and it’s time we stopped tolerating it.
school funding should be shifted to students, not systems.
the department of education should be closed and its offices sold for condos.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/metastasizing-bureaucracy-randi-goes?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Recommend subscribing to bad cattitude and Robert W Malone as must read morning reads
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June 23, 2023 8:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “How was school?” Brilliant!
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:19am
cmm

Billionaires seem to think lots of money should buy them a consequence-free life.

They knew the submersible was a dangerous craft operated by cowboys. They signed pages of waivers acknowledging that.

And they still got on.

Now the families are squealing that the company and authorities are not helping fast enough.

Hundreds or thousands of people perish every day in drownings and other events where the authorities are overwhelmed and are not able, or motivated, to respond in time. Why should priority be given to a few rich wankers that deliberately put themselves in harm’s way?

[Side note: I feel the same about trampers who get into trouble and cause massive search and rescue callouts because they don’t have PLBs.]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/titanic-missing-submersible-search-british-billionaires-family-accuse-oceangate-of-taking-too-long-to-raise-alarm/2R3MYV7K2VGJ7HN4YXNQJYEV2E/
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June 23, 2023 8:21am
- Local Miller
  
  One thing I don’t understand about this sub is why it doesn’t have a manual override emergency buoyancy system. Either that or being permanently tethered to the mother ship.
  Something like this should have redundant return to surface capability given the high risks involved.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:09am
  - Ghost
    
    It did, you drop the weights it floats to the surface, but it looks like it imploded when they lost contact a few days ago so it wouldn’t have mattered.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:22am
    - alwyn.a
      
      The buoyancy that would have brought it up was due to the space inside the vessel where the people were. That was full of air at standard atmospheric pressure.
      Once it imploded there would be no cavity and no buoyancy so it wasn’t coming up with or without the ballast being there.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:45am
  - cmm
    
    It’s too early to say exactly what happened, but from a brief look at the engineering behind this thing it was a disaster waiting to happen.
    
    While using a $30 Xbox controller from Amazon might not have caused the problem, it is indicative of the level of the engineering and their cavalier attitude. Even the thrusters look like something made by a high-school robotics project out of bits from Mitre 10.
    
    They fired 50 year old white guys who took safety etc seriously and replaced them with 20-something inexperienced wokesters. That’s not going to end well.
    
    The craft didn’t even have proper seats and restraints. People were literally just sitting on the floor. If the craft becomes unstable then everyone is tossed about.
    
    The front window was designed for 1500 or so metres – which they were exceeding – and was likely not designed to be able to take impacts.
    
    My bet is that it unfolded something like this:
    * The vessel became unstable for some reason, causing it to pitch violently nose-down.
    * Everyone + equipment fell forward, smashing into the front window. This created a high stress point on the front glass which failed. At 200 bars (the pressure at 2km deep), that would have been a violent, explosive failure.
    * The water would have rushed in immediately. All air (including air in the lungs and sinuses) is immediately crushed to 1/200 its original size.
    * Within a tenth of a second everyone would be dead.
    
    From a catastrophic failure like that there is no reprieve from safety buoyancy etc, but, of course, the vessel should have had proper buoyancy measures to cater for situations where power is lost. All properly designed submersables have that – whether it is triggered automatically by electromagnets which auto deploy if there is a power failure, or by manually screwing it away.
    
    Even with such buoyancy measures, a completely flooded submersible is still going to sink. But then there’s nothing worth saving anyway.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:24am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      I read somewhere cmm, that none of them would have felt a thing. It would have happened so fast, their brain wouldn’t have registered any pain.
      
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      June 23, 2023 11:19am
      - cmm
        
        Yup, in a catastrophic failure the rapid change in pressure would have immediately squished the air in their lungs to 1/200th the normal volume turning the lungs to soup and causing violent motion of internal organs. Same too for the gases in other parts of the body including the head which would case huge brain trauma. The pressure wave caused by this would cause huge damage to all organs.
        
        The result is a concussive trauma similar to that of a over-pressure wave caused by high explosives being detonated in a closed space. Most likely instant unconsciousness and death within a fraction of a second. Wouldn’t have felt a thing.
        
        This is the sort of thing seen when a bunker gets directly hit by high explosives. On the outside, the victims can look untouched, but internally they’re mush.
        
        This is different to blast trauma where bodies are ripped up by the moving gases or shrapnel damage.
        
        Thanks to the Army first aid training…
        
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        June 23, 2023 11:50am
      - Rumblestrip
        
        The power of underwater implosions is almost unbelievable. When the USS Thresher imploded, a survey revealed there was nothing left but “finely shredded” chunks of deformed metal.
        
        One second you’re alive, the next you are mincemeat.
        
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        June 23, 2023 12:40pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      It is now being reported that the US Navy knew that within two hours of launching, this craft had imploded.
      Yet media still kept claiming regular knocking noises being heard for days afterwards – implying that the passengers may still be alive.
      What’s with that?
      
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      June 23, 2023 12:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        What’s with that?
        
        Lazy clickbait pieces for the MSM for 5 days.
        
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        June 23, 2023 2:25pm
- Albie
  
  “The submersible was a dangerous craft operated by cowboys”
  A bit of reading online this morning and this
  statement succinctly sums up this accident waiting to happen.
  The company was not willing to undertake independent certification.
  The viewing portal was only certified by the manufacturer to an operating depth of 1300m, not the 4000m the sub would be operating at.
  Carbon fibre was an untested material used in the hull construction. Steel is the industry standard material. The company refused to conduct Non Destructive Testing on the structure.
  That’s just scratching the surface!
  You can only but wonder how individuals who have what it takes to become billionaires would put their lives in the hands of a company that had law suits from senior employees citing safety concerns in 2018.
  SHEESH!
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:25am
  - Simon
    
    Do you think these billionaires could have hired people to check the sub, like engineers or interviewed prior tourists? Got a PI to check?
    
    Billionaires. They signed a wavier…..
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:27am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Some did check it. One of Hardings mates was due to go down on the voyage. He did a bit of basic research, read the waiver and refused to go. Looks like a pretty good decision.
      
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      June 23, 2023 11:14am
  - cmm
    
    This was not some trick pulled on the unsuspecting public by a cowboy outfit. All those billionaires knew what they were signing up for.
    
    It is astounding that a person sitting on a billion, prepared to spend $250k a ticket for the ride, wouldn’t also spend $20k getting an engineer to check things out before signing a stack of waivers.
    
    But arrogance seems to know no bounds for those that think they can buy their way out of anything.
    
    Sure, you can bribe your way out of a speeding ticket, but the laws of physics at 200 times atmospheric pressure don’t accept bribes. There are no lawyers or undo buttons.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:30am
  - sirknz
    
    You missed the use of diversity hires by the guy who owned it. A number of quotes along the lines of not wanting to use 50yo white guys to build and operate this because they weren’t innovative.
    
    You can hire the best, or you can virtue signal. When it comes to something that is operating at extremes or requires a safety margin, I will take the best over the virtue signal every single time.
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:39am
- rangitoto
  
  The remains of the sub have now been located. Looks like it was an instant implosion.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:19am
  - cmm
    
    Apparently also detected when it happened by US Navy sonar apparatus.
    
    Nobody would have felt a thing.
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:52am
    - Ghost
      
      Which is sad that the families were given any hope that this was a rescue mission.
      
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      June 23, 2023 12:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Play school TV1 this morning some idiot saying we will live longer if we have a 30 minute nap during the day. WHAT??
In an engineering workshop cutting and welding steel hard out all day, when does a guy get a chance for a nap with all of that noise?
The World is turning normal people into big sooks.
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June 23, 2023 8:22am
- cmm
  
  These people have never seen a steel toed work boot.
  
  These days it is quite common for offices to have sound-proof “pods” in them where people can take a rest/nap or have some “me space”.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:50am
  - Taieri
    
    These people have never seen a steel toed work boot
    ———–
    
    Worn them for nearly 50 years. Never stopped me from having afternoon naps.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sensory overload:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLQNUVmq3o
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:32am
- Burtland
  
  One more demand the spoiled generation will put on employers
  – gyms, lunches, yoga classes, wellness programs, profit sharing, 4 day weeks, free car charging, working (sic) from home.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:57am
  - cmm
    
    “One more demand the spoiled generation will put on employers”.
    
    Not will, but already are.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:05am
  - kevn
    
    @Burt… and personal social media time in work time.
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    With all that shit going on, when do they actually work?
    Fuck, I went hard out for 50 years at the same company. Pussies! The World is full of pussies!
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:35am
    - alwyn.a
      
      ” Pussies! The World is full of pussies!”.
      You really do sound just like Donald Trump.
      I won’t repeat his words but you can read his views at the middle of the first paragraph.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Access_Hollywood_tape
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:53am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Thankyou, thankyou very much.
        
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        June 23, 2023 11:37am
  - Gaetano
    
    “working (sic) from home.”
    
    I would like to offer a different perspective as someone who has worked in many offices in the state sector. These offices are crowded, noisy places with people having loud conversations, gossiping, laughing and playing the fool. For those employees who are serious about doing serious work, the ONLY way to do that is to set up a good home office.
    
    I wish it was not like that. But that is the reality in state sector offices today.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:00am
  - Flossie
    
    All the world does not work in “the office”. My partner was a delivery driver and never actually had the working-from-home option.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:16am
    - Gaetano
      
      Yes. Add farmers, tradesmen, builders, road workers, airport employeed, shop assistants, foresters, port workers, and on and on.
      
      I am fortunate in that I do work at home. But respect to all the hard working people who do not.
      
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      June 23, 2023 10:38am
      - Flossie
        
        And our really important nurses and other health care staff of course
        
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        June 23, 2023 12:18pm
      - Gaetano
        
        Some people who do work in Government offices think everyone does.
        
        I recall in Christchurch in the first week of the first lockdown, a nurse at Christchurch hospital being abused by a neighbour. The neighbour had noticed her coming and going in her car at all hours. The neighbour told her she ‘was breaking the lockdown’. She explained she was a nurse. At Christchurch hospital. Going to work.
        
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        June 23, 2023 12:28pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Don’t forget the prayer room and prayer mats aligned in the correct direction.
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:59pm
- sirknz
  
  It can be done.
  
  My father operated a general engineering business from home for at least as long as I have been a thing. My sister moved in to my parents house and raised her kids there for a number of years, one of my nephews difficulty sleeping as a baby while my father was overseas for a about 4 weeks due to the lack of industrial noise coming from downstairs.
  
  I am able to tune out angle grinders and other industrial noises almost at will, the sounds of my childhood.
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:47am
- cmm
  
  One question though is this: Is it a Good Deal?
  
  If you live the average male life (currently 88 years IIRC) and you spend 30 minutes a day napping, that’s 16000 hours spent happing.
  
  Given that you really only live 16 hours a day (ie. excluding the 8 hours or so a day you’re sleeping), that’s 1000 days, or about 3 years, of your life lost doing the 30 minute naps.
  
  So unless you’re gaining 3 years extra of life, then it’s pointless.
  
  And, of course, you’re going to need to work an extra three years to make up for the productivity loss…
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:57am
  - Taieri
    
    Given that you really only live 16 hours a day (ie. excluding the 8 hours or so a day you’re sleeping), that’s 1000 days, or about 3 years, of your life lost doing the 30 minute naps.
    
    So unless you’re gaining 3 years extra of life, then it’s pointless.
    ————
    
    Using this logic, what’s the point in sleeping? Imagine productivity gains if we were to stop sleeping altogether. And all those extra years of life.
    Now, imagine that you were to stop writing silly comments…how many extra years of life would that translate to?:)
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:05pm
    - alwyn.a
      
      I don’t know about not sleeping at all but surely we could cut it back a bit?
      I used to know a chap who worked doing a 10pm – 6am shift as a computer operator. He then went home, had breakfast and a shower and then had a job from 8am – 5pm. Home again, dinner and then just a bit over 2 hours sleep before returning to the night job. That was except on Monday when he went to an evening meeting and didn’t sleep at all. He got away with 15 hours/week of sleep.
      He lived until he was 83 which I suppose meant he had been awake for as long as someone who lived to be at least 105.
      Not for me I’m afraid but I was a bit jealous.
      
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      June 23, 2023 12:40pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  At sea on the 4-8 watch morning and evening I had a 90 min nap every afternoon.
  
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  June 23, 2023 3:29pm
Tempist

Got a letter from the PM in the post extolling the virtues of Budget 2023 – 20 hours free ECE (opps), free/reduced public transport for those under 25 (opps); removing $5 co-payment on prescriptions (so the same policy the private sector pharmacies are running)… letter was dated 30 June 2023 so at least Labour can deliver one thing ahead of time….
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June 23, 2023 8:22am
- cmm
  
  Free, free, free….
  
  Labour means “work” doesn’t it? You’d think they’d be encouraging people to work – not sit on their arses and take Koha.
  
  The Labour Party should rename themselves in the interests of honesty to the Hand-out Party!
  
  “You vote for us, we make THEM pay for you!”
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:00pm
  - Paulus
    
    There is still no such thing as Free – somebody has to pay – and I am a positive Tax payer, who has virtually no say in where my Taxes are spent – often unwisely though !
    
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    June 23, 2023 1:22pm
    - sirknz
      
      There is nothing more expensive than ‘free’.
      
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      June 23, 2023 3:54pm
- Martonman
  
  Thanks for taking one for the team. Sent ours back to sender unopened
  
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  June 23, 2023 1:35pm
Maggie Pie

OMG! Talk about triggered 😎

https://twitter.com/boydparatene/status/1671693180696416258
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June 23, 2023 8:33am
- Ghost
  
  Oh, someone should let Boyd know Mike is married and not interested in Boyd’s gay dreams
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:38am
lastmanstanding

A mate of mine has just been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer.That makes 4 mates a brother-in-law and myself over the past 3 years all of us aged between 65 and 70. My plea to all KBer blokes is to get a PSA blood test annually from mid 40s. If the reading increases ( it ranges from bloke to bloke) get your GP to refer you to a Urologist. If you have health insurance use it. It costs around $45K to have the prostate removed IMHO the best and safest option. This little nasty spreads fast and once outside the prostate your chances arent good.
I was lucky. It was caught when the tumor was just developing. I had the best surgeon. Two days in hospital 10 days at home recovering very little post-op pain and didnt need to wear mens nappies afterwards. The stats are 1 in 8 or 12% but it hits blokes around mid 60s from my experience.
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June 23, 2023 8:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  About 4 years back my PAS was going high. Prostate biopsy showed 2 of 12 samples positive. Immediately Active Surveillance Program started. MRI yearly and Biopsy 12 monthly in between MRIs. Last Biopsy under General Anesthetic showed 36 out of 35 all negative. Down to Biopsy 2 yearly now, but MRI still 12 monthly. PSA just the other day was 5.2 – good. So the cancer is still there but stable. If it takes off it will be my hips and spine first.
  So yes guys, get it done. Prostate needs to be advertised just as much as breast cancer, it is not. Be aware, men can get breast cancer in your moobs!
  Lastmanstanding, is Prostate Cancer increasing?
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:50am
  - krazykiwi
    
    “Lastmanstanding, is Prostate Cancer increasing?”
    
    My research turned up conflicting result on this. It appears that more Prostate cancer is being found, but found earlier and with more accurate diagnosis of any metastatic disease – the new PSMA scan is an amazing advance in this area. All this is leading to better survival rates at 10 and 15 years
    
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    June 23, 2023 9:55am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I have had the dye thing in a MRI scanner. Whole thing took over 2 hours.
      I don’t think it was a PSMA scan, but who knows? It was contracted out DHB to Southern Cross on the Shore. My cancer is “confined” they say, although Malignant.
      
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      June 23, 2023 11:54am
  - cmm
    
    Much of the reason prostate cancer is increasing is that prostate enabled people (??men??) are now living longer than they did just a decade or two ago.
    
    Something like 90% of men develop prostate cancer to some extent if they live over 80. For most that’s not going to be life threatening because something else takes them first.
    
    This is one of the complications of living longer and longer. We’re all going to die and trying not to is a game of whack-a-mole – beat lung cancer (or whatever) and you live a bit longer and heart failure gets you (or whatever).
    
    Of course there could be other factors too. For example, we sit more than we used to. Sitting for hours on end with all your weight concentrated on your prostate area could be causing some problems. But that’s pure speculation of course.
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:38am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      ‘Heart failure’ All hydraulic pumps wear out.
      
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      June 23, 2023 12:19pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Re your speculation, I have been an extreme-distance cyclist. 300+ km single rides. At one stage I was doing 200+ every Saturday. A few of my friends asked if that could have contributed to my cancer. Like you, I have no idea.
      
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      June 23, 2023 1:05pm
  - CJames
    
    Steve- 36 out of 35? Did you do Labour new maths?
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:56pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Typo, just noticed it today LOL!
      Looks like Labour Math, although they really do confuse it with a roving decimal point.
      
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      June 24, 2023 8:48am
- krazykiwi
  
  Exactly my experience earlier this year. Caught early, and was operated on by this. My surgery cost $30k + PSMA scan ($3.5k) + Urologist ($1.5k). Utterly amazing post-op recovery. Walked out of hospital 26hrs after been wheeled out of the OR. Panadol from day 2 and nothing needed from day 3. The six holes in my abdomen were mostly healed after 3 weeks.
  
  Get tested, lads.
  
  It’s easy to self-request a PSA test.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:51am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jesus, what a machine!
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:57am
- MCōs
  
  I have non-hodgkin lymphoma
  I go to the hospital and they tell me what to do from from day to day
  Yesterday, for example, it was a bone marrow biopsy
  My daughter makes sure we’re there on time and her husband keeps track of the program and takes notes at meetings for me.
  Helps me sleep at night
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:44am
  - CJames
    
    I had NHL 4 years ago – cleared up from chemo, then 5 months later a relapse. More chemo then stem cell transplant. Just gone through three years since the transplant so I am now “cured”.
    But like others have noted, self-monitor, get things that aren’t right checked out and get treatment early. Cancer is no longer the death sentence it was even as recent as 20 years ago.
    
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    June 23, 2023 1:02pm
- mawm
  
  LMS – One should get an annual PSA and a digital rectal examination!
  Not all prostate cancers need surgery. Watchful waiting is the way to go.
  
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  June 23, 2023 6:54pm
Jack5

Instead of a “wealth tax” let’s have a house tax, suggests Auckland university economist Susan St John in an article at the Interest.co.nz web site.

She describes a capital gains tax as dead — and here’s her suggested house tax:

…take the total value of all housing held by each individual, subtract registered first mortgages, and allow a $1 million exemption to reflect that everyone is entitled to a basic family home.

Then we treat this net equity as if it was in a term deposit generating a taxable interest return …

… Calculated annually and pegged to the capital value of properties, this effective income would be taxed at the person’s marginal tax rate.

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/122624/susan-st-john-says-instead-complicated-net-wealth-tax-everything-let’s-start
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June 23, 2023 9:23am
- Prince
  
  Would rates, insurance and upkeep be deductible ?
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:49am
  - Paulus
    
    No, I don’t think so but !
    In joint ownership I assume it is each person ?
    Or like Maori where nobody knows who is the owner only the tribe, so not included.
    
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    June 23, 2023 1:26pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Very generous of her to decide that we’re all entitled to a home.
  I’m always a bit suspicious of people who tell me what I need or am entitled to.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:04am
- Taieri
  
  Instead of a “wealth tax” let’s have a house tax, suggests Auckland university economist Susan St John
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  Instead of a “wealth tax” or a “house tax” let’s have a thorough review of spending and implement some prudence and discipline in spending public money. With meaningful consequences for waste and mis-spending.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:13am
- Bill Felt
  
  I have a better idea. Why not just control Govt spending. For example, stop paying socialist university staff. 5 mins study on the effects of socialism will clearly outline that it does not work.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:22am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Susan St John is basically so far left in her views she should have a permanent disclaimer attached to everything she says, writes and on her course descriptions where ever she delivers them.
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:29am
- sirknz
  
  Her proposal seems easy to beat as she deducts any mortgage from the net worth calculation. Off set mortgage renders this ‘tax’ null and void while killing off any movement of funds through the economy in general.
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I’m going to pay a “house tax” whether Labour wants it or not.//
  When the house was purchased all of the money going into it was already Taxed.
  All of those dollars going to a mortgage already had been Taxed.
  What this misguided economist wants is a Tax on ‘appreciation’
  How does she hold a job down? That is a WEALTH TAX!! ffs.
  A Master of Arts in Economics, really? Just another Labour shill bending and twisting simple words, it is not working.
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:37pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Susan is another “slice the pie up more equitably” type, rather than a grow the pie type. Who got a gong for moaning about inequity and being part of Child Poverty Action group who also moan about inequity. Makes a living by sucking of the taxpayer at Auckland University. Nuff said.
  
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  June 23, 2023 1:32pm
- Opie
  
  First of all, why does a university economist have any say over public policy and taxation?
  
  Secondly, fuck off.
  
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  June 23, 2023 2:23pm
- artemisia
  
  Did she consider the consequences? They are very obvious.
  
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  June 23, 2023 6:40pm
Scooter

Oh well at least the Titan crew went out quick, will anyone now look into who or what was making those banging noises, don’t know what’s more creepy, from the Titanic or marine life.

https://www.insider.com/titanic-sub-banging-sounds-experts-noises-theories-for-source-titan-2023-6
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June 23, 2023 9:30am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Well apparently the owner who was on the sub, got rid of “fifty year old white guys” because he wanted the team to be more “inspirational”.
  
  One of those “fifty year old white guys” had raised safety concerns before he was sacked.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zvqtBhdan4&t=192s
  
  Culture wars strikes again?
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:02am
  - mawm
    
    These old white guys probably knew such inconvenient things like the laws of physics.
    
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    June 23, 2023 6:58pm
Ruawai

Any Maori ancestry is just part of the fabric of ourselves, combined with all our other ancestry and where we are from. Many Maori politicians seem to forget they are made up of many ancestors not just Maori ancestors.
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June 23, 2023 9:32am
- Prince
  
  But it’s the Maori ancestry that pays their bills and gives them a place in front of the queue.
  
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  June 23, 2023 9:50am
- General
  
  They haven’t forgotten. They willfully ignore this and it’s incredibly pathetic. Say what you want about Winston Peters but even he has the dignity to acknowledge this obvious truth that’s barely if ever mentioned.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:29am
  - Biscuit
    
    ‘Dignity’ and ‘Peters’ in the self-same sentence!
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:00am
    - General
      
      Up voted you. 😀
      
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      June 23, 2023 12:07pm
- cmm
  
  ” Many Maori politicians seem to forget they are made up of many ancestors not just Maori ancestors.”
  
  When Scottish ancestry starts paying dividends they’ll be putting down the KFC and eating haggis.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Gotta learn how to catch them first…..
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:42pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  US Elizabeth is 1/1024 Native American Indian.
  So if you are 1/1024 Maori then you are Maori. Fuck the other 1023!
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:41pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  But Maori elite today aren’t interested in the colonial bit of their ancestors Ruawai. And since in 1973, only 8% of the population could register on the Maori roll (you had to have 50% or more), it stands to reason, there’d be a hell of a lot less now that would make the 50% threshold. Yet here we have Maori elites making demands for Maori, when there is a decent chance they are as much European as Maori. Grifters.
  
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  June 23, 2023 1:38pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Elon Musk says terms like “cis” and “cisgender” are SLURS and will not be tolerated on Twitter. Users face a permanent ban.

https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1671514120359690241

Hmmm…..

@ MaramaDavidson
@shaneellall
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June 23, 2023 9:39am
ClanMcleod

Joe Rogan recently challenged prominent covid vaccine advocate Dr Peter Hortez to an open debate with RFK Jr. on the subject.
This was after RFK Jr. was interviewed on Rogan’s show and Hortez publicly claimed that he had been spreading a lot of “disinformation”. The classic, meaningless smear thrown at anyone presenting evidence of harms of this experimental jab.

Anyway, Rogan offered 100k to the charity of his choice to debate RFK Jr. A number of other wealthy people including Elon Musk got involved, the pot now sits at over 1.5 million dollars.

Hotez refused to debate him.

This meme captures it perfectly.

The Left: “RFK Jr.’s anti-vax rhetoric is dangerous and has easily been debunked many times!”

Rogan: “I’ll give a million dollars to the charity of your choice to debunk him in front of the largest podcast audience on the planet.”

The left:

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1670290936306323458

As one commenter pointed out, “A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged.”

We’ve witnessed this repeatedly in NZ. No debate permitted. No discussion. Anyone questioning the covid policies is branded a conspiracy theorist or accused of spreading mis or disinformation. These accusations never come with actual evidence.

Why is this critical debate not permitted?
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June 23, 2023 9:47am
- Che Guava
  
  Notions like the empirical scientific method and other components of the liberal worldview aren’t absolute. They are just the clothing worn by those in power, and what they use to justify their power.
  
  Everything is up for debate (until it’s not and it is completely settled and has become dogma). We always apply reason and evidence rather than accept unquestionable propositions (until we don’t, and some propositions are placed beyond question and doubt).
  
  Democracy is sacred (but we won’t audit ballots); scientific investigation is the ultimate modern value (but we cannot allow impartial investigation); tolerance and inclusion are moral imperatives (but we’ll discriminate against you and won’t tolerate your views).
  
  The reason they won’t debate is because there is no reason to: they’ll lose the debate if exposed to counter arguments and better evidence. So they don’t do it. Better to just use the media that they dominate in order to constantly tell the masses of people “how it is” rather than engage with dissidents and contrary arguments in order to find out how it actually is as a matter of fact.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:25am
  - General
    
    You’re the most underappreciated commenter here in my opinion
    
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    June 23, 2023 10:41am
    - Che Guava
      
      Thank you, General. However, I’m not here for recognition or validation, I’m mostly here to drop truth bombs and to change hearts and minds.
      
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      June 23, 2023 1:48pm
      - General
        
        Same here brother, I just think you do it exceptionally well in particular. Eyes and mind open and far more articulate than me. I wish I discovered this blog much earlier than I did. The intelligence level on display here restored some faith in my opinion of this country. NZCPR’s is pretty good also but kiwiblog with few exceptions is the most observant group of citizens we’ve got.
        
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        June 23, 2023 2:10pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Alinsky’s rules…..
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:34am
- General
  
  I weighed in on this on twitter this morning and my reply was re-tweeted by an account with 500k followers
  
  “The sniveling creep is shitting himself” garnered a lot more attention than I was expecting it to
  
  NZDSOS and other accounts are gaining momentum at exposing this regarding the damage done here and the disgusting attitudes of so many doctors who balk at having their authority challenged but the majority of NZers aren’t interested or ever will be for a multitude of reasons unfortunately.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:51am
  - sirknz
    
    $1 store media had a ‘newsable’ thing yesterday that seemed to be all over the place like a mad woman’s piss ‘explaining’ why the increased death rate in NZ has absolutely nothing to do with the mRNA science experiment and in fact has other explanations.
    
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    June 23, 2023 12:09pm
    - General
      
      Well said. It’s depressing how captured or brainwashed the MSM clowns are.
      
      Reality Check Radio is our only hope it appears. Peter, Rodney, Paul and the rest. Brilliant people with real integrity.
      
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      June 23, 2023 2:16pm
Maggie Pie

According to The Horrid…..’Dame’ Jacinda confirms she has accepted a $1,000,000.00 + advance from Peguinn Books.

Will withholding-tax be deducted at source?

Asking for a friend
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June 23, 2023 10:00am
- Ghost
  
  I wonder if that breaks the record for children’s picture books written with crayon.
  
  I see a early copy has been released
  
  It’s called watch jacinda run
  
  Oh no there has been a disaster, watch jacinda run for camera attention
  Oh no there has been a shooting, watch jacinda run for camera time
  Oh no there is a virus in Auckland, watch jacinda run to Wellington before closing Auckland
  Oh no all Jacinda’s fuck up are coming back to haunt her, watch jacinda run away
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:05am
  - Matt Long
    
    Does a ghost writer get a percentage or a set fee? Royalties?
    Once the book is marked down to a dollar at the Warehouse do royalties still accrue?
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:18am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Sorry Ghost, I put your script through a Readability Test and it is much too complicated for the average NZ reader.
    
    READABILITY TEST RESULTS:
    Your direct input has an average reading ease of about 22.5 of 100. Ooh, that’s probably a bit too complicated.
    Have you thought about using smaller words and shorter sentences?
    
    https://www.webfx.com/tools/read-able/
    
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    June 23, 2023 3:15pm
- Ruahine
  
  Good to see that Ardern is likely to be able to lift at least one child out of poverty.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:17am
- Scooter
  
  Strange her FB page has 400 or so comments all positive when usually there are thousands (more bad than good), filtering out bad ones much?
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:33am
- Gaetano
  
  I wouldn’t read it if it were given away. I don’t need to. I might buy it if it had these chapters..
  
  The housing crisis. How I made it worse.
  
  The Elimination Strategy. Oh no.
  
  The Maori Caucus. A guide to dealing with the mafia.
  
  Winston Peters. A pain in the arse.
  
  Dividing a Nation. A Guide.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:42am
  - Matt Long
    
    As a contrast, I’ve just finished reading Bibi, the Israeli Prime Minister is former special forces and worked for the Boston Consulting Group.
    He put in place reforms as finance minister under Sharon that took Israel’s GDP from 50 in the world to 20.
    We got a vacuous socialist who has set New Zealand on the opposite track.
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:25am
- backster
  
  I wonder how much she will donate to the L:abour Party.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:49am
- Rich Prick
  
  That’s a pretty expensive way to fill the $2 bins.
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:58am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… “Just pop it into my overseas account.” The tax lawyer said so.
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:06am
- Maggie Pie
  
  I see where some wit has tweeted it could be an updated version of the old Janet & John book…. “Come Clarke, come”
  
  😀 😀 😀
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:25am
- rouppe
  
  I hear its about leadership.
  
  That’s a lot of money for a short story
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:52pm
- mawm
  
  Maggie – she sold her country and her integrity very cheaply. Barak at least got 40 mil for his book.
  
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  June 23, 2023 7:06pm
tknorriss

Since the media was so righteous and picky to point out apparent hypocrisy when Luxon’s wife apparently legally claimed the government rebate on a Tesla purchase, perhaps they will do likewise with the Greens.

After all, last year they were attempting to have political donations capped at $35k. But now, they have just received two donations for $50k each.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labour-likely-to-kill-green-attempt-to-cap-donations/RBVRGSJX36PVEQPT3EGYEACJWM/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/famous-hollywood-director-donates-to-greens-as-party-surges-ahead-of-labour/JNSGJOHS3VHRBHOV5GEZ6N6PIQ/
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June 23, 2023 10:05am
- Gaetano
  
  It is different when it is the Greens 😅
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:44am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://www.teslarati.com/snopes-fact-checks-itself-linking-elon-musk-starlink-titanic-sub-incident/

Description is in the link.
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June 23, 2023 10:12am
Maggie Pie

Australia’s World-Heritage-listed FRASER ISLAND looks to be a fab holiday destination with plenty to offer its visitors. Sun, sea, sand….. 😎

https://twitter.com/couriermail/status/1671734091220406277
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June 23, 2023 10:23am
- cmm
  
  I tried that, but the bitch slapped me!
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:45am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Bloody dingos can get away with anything.
    
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    June 23, 2023 11:08am
    - Colville
      
      Dingos like fish? Who knew?
      
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      June 23, 2023 5:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From 2021. One billion dollars. I guess people want to protect themselves.
Meanwhile here in NZ the Police play kissy kissy with the gangs, and we can’t have guns.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/as-defund-the-police-movement-spread-smith-wesson-gun-company-hit-first-billion-dollar-sales-year/
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June 23, 2023 10:24am
kiwi_chileno

First, Hipkins could not define ‘woman’. Now, he cannot recognise a dictator (even Sleepy Joe can do that) https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/06/22/hipkins-disagrees-with-bidens-assessment-xi-jinping-a-dictator/

Perhaps Hipkins thinks that the PRC is a more ‘sophisticated’ democracy (he’s off to Beijing soon to perform proskynesis). The Chinese Ambassador, who recently wrote to NZ MP’s, certainly thinks so: “There is no single model of a democratic political system that is applicable to all…Freedom, democracy and human rights are the common pursuit of humanity, and also are the values that the Communist Party of China (CPC) always pursues. China commits to and advances whole-process people’s democracy, and puts into action the principle of people running the country…” https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/havoc-and-disaster-chinese-ambassador-slams-us-in-letter-to-nz-mps-20230329-p5cw3h.html
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June 23, 2023 10:39am
- kevn
  
  @kiwi c…. Xi won’t give hipkins 5 minutes. Blinken only got 30 minutes with Xi earlier this week.
  
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  June 23, 2023 11:08am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Isn’t there a clue as to how democratic the Communist Party is right there in its name?
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:41pm
cas

If Ginny Andersen is going to Michael Wood’s replacement up against Erica Stanford on Newshub on a Friday, that suggests
a) Labour’s Auckland talent pool is very shallow
b) so much for climate change and not taking flights
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June 23, 2023 10:44am
- I remember when
  
  Is Labour’s talent pool at present restricted to those with a chance to either retain an electorate seat or likely to be placed high enough on list to return to parliament.
  
  ie Considerably reduced.
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:33pm
Opie

A while back when this went down I made a comment on the most likely race of this sick perverted sub human being Maori.

Someone said said it was impossible to know. It was obvious. Unfortunately the stats don’t lie.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/06/man-charged-with-manslaughter-of-kaikohe-woman-linda-woods-named-as-terrance-lowe-kiro.html

I’m guessing this piece of shit wont see any jail time as jail isn’t suitable if you have his skin colour… I wonder how many other convictions he has?

Lack of education
Lack of parenting
Lack of consequences
Rewarding of poor behavior
Financial assistance everywhere deincentivising self improvement and productive contribution to society.

The result? Same old sad nz story.

How many educated people with a job commit this type of crime?
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June 23, 2023 10:45am
- PeterB
  
  I prefer to use the term untermenschen.
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:00pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Be gentle – he’s a victim of colonisation.
  /s
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:42pm
- MCōs
  
  There’s a meanness in this world, Opie, and it ain’t confined to the race of people you detest.
  It doesn’t take much imagination to come up with far worse people than whoever you’re referring to at any particular time.
  Pedophilists, fraudsters, Vladimir Putin . . . . .
  
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  June 23, 2023 2:44pm
Swifty

42 years in a state house.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/sustainable-living/132382829/kinga-oras-new-passive-home-apartments-should-mean-zero-heating-costs

I begrudge our elderly nothing. Elderly folk who need assistance in their twilight years should get it, from the taxpayer. I happily contribute.

But these people have been in state housing since their 20s (her) and 30s (him). I ask, was this really necessary? I do hope they had medical or other issues which required such taxpayer largesse.
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June 23, 2023 10:51am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I think state house tenancies should be for a period of 2 – 5 years. Then a review done on what they have done to improve their situation.
  
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  June 23, 2023 1:21pm
  - Local Miller
    
    I think that’s generous. A review every year, or even every 6 months to measure progress towards independence. Basic stuff like: Are you sticking to your budget, getting off drugs, improving your education level, getting a job, … And so on until by 2 – 5 years they are established enough to move into market rental.
    If you aren’t passing 6 monthly mile stones then there should be financial consequences.
    
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    June 23, 2023 4:10pm
  - artemisia
    
    National implemented reviews in 2014 and began working with tenants paying market rent – as rent is income related. Hundreds were moved on, most to the private sector, some into own home. Labour stopped it.
    
    Simple mechanism to identify appropriately. Support was available to help these tenants move.
    
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    June 23, 2023 6:37pm
- Drone
  
  @Swifty this couple have “scored” a three bedroom unit for them and their son (probs 50-ish). Who will “inherit” the unit when they pass away. Accommodation for life..
  
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  June 23, 2023 5:28pm
  - Gaetano
    
    No. Even under current policy, if his parents die, he will be moved on.
    
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    June 23, 2023 7:03pm
cmm

How long before the good, honest, citizens of NZ get sick and tired of criminal elements and take things into their own hands?

At some stage, if the cops can’t/won’t sort out crime then the people will. And it will get ugly.

Here’s Diepsloot (between Johannesburg and Pretoria).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqpOrJWxLxc
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June 23, 2023 10:51am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

http://onenzfoundation.co.nz/what-the-treaty-of-waitangi-really-said-in-1840/
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June 23, 2023 10:59am
Scooter

Will the waiting lists for Maori crime be bumped up too? This one won’t go to court till 2025.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/man-pleads-not-guilty-to-manslaughter-of-kaikohe-grandmother-linda-woods/
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June 23, 2023 11:00am
- rouppe
  
  Isn’t that amazing? Two years before this case will be heard…
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:39pm
Handyman

The Tesla question was a gift to Luxon. Luxon’s response to the Tesla question should have been…
Being in opposition meant I had no say on making the policy. However, you raise an interesting question.
Labour and Green party members voted for a policy to give themselves $8,000 cash extracted directly from the hard working ute owners of New Zealand.
How many Labour and Green Party MPs have declared that conflict in the register of interests? How many Labour and Green ministers on $300,000 have claimed the $8,000 paid by a farmer struggling to pay the Labour carbon tax?
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June 23, 2023 11:02am
- rouppe
  
  He can now also point to the Greens accepting a $50,000 donation from James Cameron when they are campaigning to limit donations to $35,000 so that politics isn’t influenced by rich donors…
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/great-night-in-gore-no-protesters-free-speech-rules-and-reigns/
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June 23, 2023 11:08am
Maggie Pie

Wonder if Chippie will have the gonads to raise peoples very real concerns when he meets up with Xi, about Chynah’s undeclared, illegal, police operations in New Zealand?
There can be no doubt they present a real threat to the freedom of expression and association in our society.
I’d liked to have seen Prof Anne-Marie Brady as part of the official delegation.

https://newsroom.co.nz/chinese-police-centre-in-nz-tied-to-businessman
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June 23, 2023 11:49am
- Gaetano
  
  Chynah 🙁
  
  China
  
  Childish.
  
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  June 23, 2023 7:06pm
PeterB

First time in 111 years human meat was on the menu at Krusty Krab Restaurant.
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June 23, 2023 12:10pm
I remember when

So Peter Dunne thinks that Michael Wood could get a ministry if Labour returns to power after the Election.
Why would we want a minister who is prepared to ignore anything that they don’t think they need to action.
Surely that is what has disillusioned voters in recent years.
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June 23, 2023 12:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Dunne once again proving his irrelevance.
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:22pm
I remember when

What the New, Low Test Scores for 13-year-olds Say About US Education Now: NY Times.
The maths and reading performance of 13-year-olds in US has reached lowest level in decades, according to scores released from National Assessment of Education Progress, the gold-standard Federal exam.
Performance has fallen significantly since 2019-2020 school year, when the covid pandemic wrought havoc.
The extent to which schools were closed appears to have affected all students equally, regardless of income or race.
However, downwards trends began years before that.

Wonder what affect lockdowns had on subsequent worker output?
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June 23, 2023 12:23pm
Gaetano

Why, 13 years on, is this ‘search for evidence’ continuing?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300912514/more-bodies-seen-at-pike-river-as-police-end-mine-site-investigation

These men should have been left to rest in peace years ago.
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June 23, 2023 12:44pm
- Ghost
  
  Umm, for $20,000 Alex is the question
  
  What does labour do in an election year to look like they care?
  
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  June 23, 2023 12:51pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Where to next for Kainga Ora?

https://twitter.com/ronin19217435/status/1671842904996823042
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June 23, 2023 1:10pm
- Ghost
  
  Hopefully they used imported steel and not Chinese made….
  
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  June 23, 2023 1:12pm
mogg

After five and a half years in government and six months before the election,Hipkins discovered ‘bread and butter issues’. Now in his recent propaganda circular he has also discovered ‘growing the economy’.
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June 23, 2023 1:41pm
- Prince
  
  Like his Finance Minister, he confuses ‘Growing the economy’ with ‘Growing the Government debt’.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:32pm
sirknz

Just saw this in the Horrid:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/aussie-mum-slams-school-teacher-for-refusing-to-open-childs-unhealthy-snack-for-him/T5OAN3IN2BHTHMOGC2RUGJFREU/

An Aussie mum complaining that a teacher inspected her kid’s lunch and decided that a slice of cake was unhealthy and therefore shouldn’t be eaten.

Looking at her picture, she looks like the sort who votes or the sort of fruit loops who would enforce this sort of thing.
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June 23, 2023 2:24pm
Prince

Be careful what you wish for. Or in this case, what you think you are legislating.
Hat tip to Matt Levine, a Bloomsburg Opinion columnist. (A proper columnist – intelligent, informed, amusing. Ex Investment banker, lawyer).

“This, from last week, is one of the best stories you’ll ever read about how regulation works:

Congress passed legislation intended to make life better for people allergic to sesame seeds. Instead, it made things worse.
In response, some companies began adding sesame to products that hadn’t included it in the past—saying it was safer to add sesame and label it, rather than certify they had eliminated all traces of it.

People with sesame allergies say the result is fewer sesame-free food options, as well as new and unexpected risks from sesame in foods they used to eat without worry.

The story he quotes from is here.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sesame-allergy-sufferers-wanted-warning-labels-they-got-more-sesame-283c70ce?mod=hp_listb_pos1
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June 23, 2023 2:24pm
Maggie Pie

And just to reiterate, whether they’re black, white or brindle…
steer well clear of anyone with a neck-tattoo 🙁

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1672054856905834499
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June 23, 2023 2:42pm
ClanMcleod

WHEN it comes to error correction, the USA’s 50 sovereign states offer more opportunity for an authoritative challenge to the misuse of power than we enjoy in the UK. Dr Joseph Ladapo, the Florida Surgeon General, has made public a letter excoriating federal health officials over their promotion of the mRNA Covid vaccines. The government, he said, ‘has relentlessly forced a premature vaccine into the arms of the American people with little or no concern for the adverse ramifications’.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/from-floridas-surgeon-general-a-devastating-indictment-of-the-vaccine-and-its-pushers/

Worth reading in full, Dr Lapado holds nothing back.

‘Data are unequivocal,’ Ladapo wrote. ‘After the Covid-19 vaccine rollout, the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) reporting increased by 1,700 per cent, including a 4,400 per cent increase in life-threatening conditions.

‘Dismissing this pronounced increase as being solely due to reporting trends is a callous denial of corroborating scientific evidence also pointing to increased risk and a poor safety profile. It also fails to explain the disproportionate increase in life-threatening adverse events for the mRNA vaccines compared to all adverse events.

‘Based on the CDC’s own data, rates of incapacitation after mRNA vaccination far surpass other vaccines.’

Florida is fortunate to have someone willing to speak out and willing to tell them the truth. Not so in NZ.
Our Royal Commission will be a perfect example of a hugely expensive whitewash masquerading as an inquiry. The terms of reference are a joke and an insult.
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June 23, 2023 2:51pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘excoriating’ is such a good word
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:14pm
Graham Sharpe

This guy charged with manslaughter in Kaikohe. If he was committing a felony, as charged, why is he now facing a charge of murder? Asking for a friend.
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June 23, 2023 3:26pm
Jack5

Karl du Fresne at his blog today reports on a donnybrook at a meeting of the Masterton branch of the NZ Institute of International Affairs.

Michael Daubs, a lecturer in media and communication at Victoria University of Wellington, crossed path with John Ansell.

Karl writes:

“At one point I heard the MC announce, somewhat superfluously, that the meeting was ended, while around him the shouting match raged unabated. It would be fair to say the Masterton branch of the impeccably proper and dignified NZIIA had never experienced anything quite like it. Neither had the venue, a Masterton funeral parlour.”

https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/06/red-rags-and-bulls-what-happened-when.html
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June 23, 2023 3:57pm
- Swifty
  
  Excellent.
  
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  June 23, 2023 4:14pm
Maggie Pie

O.M.G…… this guy is Amazeballs!! 😀

He’s the best Trumpy impersonator i’ve ever heard.
Listen as he leaves a voicemail for “Shifty Adam Schiff”

https://twitter.com/CaptnDeplorable/status/1671991254219911177
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June 23, 2023 4:32pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yup, dumped it on Facebook. That is good.
  
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  June 23, 2023 4:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Just before everyone goes, or some go for a craft beer shandy and run for the train;
I would like to thank everyone contributing to the Prostate Cancer discussion. It is meaningful to those who have it, and those who may have it. The more we learn, the more we learn.
Thankyou to all. Guys over 40, please go for a PSA blood test.
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June 23, 2023 4:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who would be the dork that down ticked that so quickly?
  Prostate Cancer is a real thing you corksoaker.
  
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  June 23, 2023 4:55pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Corksoaker, nice term heh.
    I just upticked you, Steve – 2 Goodies now annul 1 lamebrain!
    
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    June 23, 2023 5:21pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Remember SteveO the thing that makes U & ME winners….. are lifes losers 😀
    
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    June 23, 2023 5:56pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  As a PC Survivor, an early check can save a shitload of angst.
  
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  June 23, 2023 5:22pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes!
    
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    June 23, 2023 6:49pm
Swifty

One of the best interviews you’ll see this week – Julie Bindel and Douglas Murray getting stuck into the Trans and Pride clown show:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YysgbnBohhc
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June 23, 2023 5:46pm
Maggie Pie

Just happened to see the news about all thr gang arrests out West.

SHEESH that Jarred Gilbert gives me the shits!!
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June 23, 2023 6:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Musk v Zuck.
Well if that is not advertising, what is?
Cage fight? Sounds girly to me. Only one thing makes a man feel degraded.
The Claret flowing from the nose 🙂
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June 23, 2023 6:58pm
Maggie Pie

So, he’s happpy to donate $3 MILL taxpayers money to the Mongrel Mob…
Butt Robbo not prepared to give a cracker to get Taylor Swift here 🙁

And now i hear Kiri Allen has been made Assoc-Finance-Minister!
Meng must be kicking himself?
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June 23, 2023 7:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

My caregiver just said “eat you steak and cheese pie and get your arse into bed, or no spongy pud”
So I am off, if I can find my walking frame.
Sorry old peoples 🙂
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June 23, 2023 7:22pm
Suze Wainwright

How on earth can TVNZ use John Campbell as a 6pm news reader?

Talk about Cootchy Coo news..!
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June 23, 2023 8:08pm
- Nickc2
  
  Get used to him Suze, he’s the fave of the Blue Rinse Granny set, and IMO, TVNZ will use him to push the Labour Party’s agenda leading up to the election.
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:40pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Who watches TVNZ news anyway?
  
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  June 23, 2023 8:51pm
- graham
  
  John Campbell annoys the life out of me on the news, mostly because he seems unable to understand that he’s no longer presenting a current affairs programme. I watched the first piece about the Titan and then went off to do something else.
  
  Came back about 10 minutes later to find my wife had skipped through the entire news, watched a couple of minutes of the weather, and moved on to another programme … because she couldn’t stand him either. 😂
  
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  June 23, 2023 10:25pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Mr Campbell made a personal comment at the start of a report about Musk and some other guy going to have a cage fight or similar.
    I don’t want to know what he thinks about it.
    I just want to hear the news without some conceited celebrity giving his opinion all through it.
    
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    June 24, 2023 6:38am
Prince

Here is the latest NZ Government Debt Clock (not including State-run agencies, which are around $30M and growing).
https://www.debtclock.nz/
So $151B in dedt, growing at $3.1M each and every hour, $76K per household (including Maori and Pacifica).
Question:
What will turn this out-of-control debt growth around.
– More taxes. Would need plenty of them.
– More productivity. Some hope, number of NZ’ers on a benefit has grown exponentially over the last five years. Labour have committed to keeping Super age at 65.
– Cut Govt spending. Well not Labour that’s for sure. Spending announcement is all they know.

Robertson/Hipkins can parrot ‘NZ Economy is in great shape’ all they like. They have borrowed $100B, the cupboard is bare, and the spending engine they have created is overheating.
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