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Tony Stuart

As predicted some months ago by many, Te Pukenga, the government’s mega-merger of polytechnics, is in deep trouble:

Staff at Te Pūkenga are feeling “shocked” and “gutted” after hundreds found out their roles have been cut – and they still don’t know how many jobs might be left to reapply for.

The mega polytech flagged it would be consulting staff this week as part of its “organisational design and change programme”.

One staff member, with more than a decade experience in the sector, said she was given a letter at a meeting on Wednesday informing her that her position had been disestablished.

However, the letter did not explain why or provide any information about opportunities to reapply under the new structure.

The woman, who asked not to be named, said she was given less than 24 hours to prepare or seek a support person ahead of the meeting.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/132319503/staff-gutted-as-details-about-te-pkenga-restructure-emerge

This is tragic for the staff involved, but not unexpected. The government has been throwing money at Te Pukenga like confetti. The latest outrage is a likely bill in excess of $400 million – and maybe as high as a $1 billion given we know what happens to projects like this! – to amalgamate 16 polytechnics’ IT systems into one functioning system. Amazingly, no one factored this cost into initial budget projections.

Our local Whanganui National Party candidate Carl Bates got Penny Simmonds to town a couple of moths ago for a public meeting, at which a number of staff from the former UCOL were present. Even then, many were at the end of their tether with the mega-merger. Carl has launched a petition to restore local control to our polytechnic; feel free to sign it, and you can opt out of leaving your email if that’s a concern – https://www.national.org.nz/makeucollocal .

Penny Simmonds, for 23 years CEO of SIT, the most successful tertiary institution in the country is National’s Tertiary Education spokeswoman. She told the meeting in Whanganui that Te Pukenga won’t even by a first 100 days project for an incoming National government. Her goal will be for Te Pukenga to be disestablished before Christmas so the sector can start afresh in 2024.

PS: A friend is manning a stand at Fielddays. Te Pukenga staff manning a stand there heard about this yesterday afternoon. He said he had huge sympathy for them, effectively being thrown under the bus whilst trying to promote the organisation they work for. What a shambles!
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December 15, 2022 8:29am
- kowtow
  
  “Roles have been cut “.
  
  No doubt across the board ‘the dept of giving maori names to everything’ will still be hiring .
  
  Hopefully that won’t survive the 1st hundred days , but I won’t hold my breath.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:35am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Labour in implementing their ridiculous centralisation of the polytechnics not only have wasted millions upon millions, I mean Labour wasting millions of taxpayers dollars is not exactly hold the front page stuff, no the real crime is destroying the Southern Institute of Technology that was free learning and a huge hand up for lower income students. But hey who cares about them? Not the Labour Party that’s for sure they have a vested interest in keeping their support base poor and dependent don’t want them having anything to conserve because they might start voting National or Act. Best keep them where they are.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:14am
    - John Loveridge
      
      I think we’re up into the billions now, Stellaboxer.
      
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      June 15, 2023 12:05pm
- pdm
  
  Inv – does that mean Chris Hipkins, Klevin Davis and Jan Tinetti will all be resigning?
  
  That is a multi million (maybe multi billion) cost to the country.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:38am
  - cmm
    
    The true cost is not in the $ blown, but the long term education lost.
    
    In reality there is a huge hole where polytechnics used to sit. Most of the polytechnic resources have been diverted into wokery and low-level basket weaving courses rather than the bread and butter of polytechnics: trade and technical.
    
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    June 15, 2023 8:45am
    - Tricati
      
      Not to mention the next level down of students who are missing so much classroom time due to teachers strikes etc.
      I feel the country will pay dearly for the shambolic state our education sector is in, for years to come.
      
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      June 15, 2023 8:58am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Tricati – never forget the covid lockdowns and forced masking and social distancing that most kids were forced to do. The impacts will be felt for many years to come.
        The worst government in NZ history by any measure.
        
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        June 15, 2023 10:19am
    - Opie
      
      While you can still go straight into an apprenticeship in most trades and skip polytech altogether, the pre trades courses deliver apprentices into business in much better shape than a Newby.
      
      Basics have been learnt around theory, safety and tool use and without fail the apprentices I have trained that have come through a year or two of polyech race through their training to qualification.
      
      Given most modern business models where an apprentice is expected to make money as well as train this buts them in a much better position to do so.
      
      A super woke, badly run centralized behemoth that leaks money while employing people to translate the automotive engineering curriculum into Maori because one person said it might have helped them is going to do the opposite.
      
      I would now look to employ people that haven’t been dragged through the dumb washing that hipkins has so expertly turned the polytechnic into. Imobviously not the oy one based on the drop in attendance numbers.
      
      I just want to learn how to build a house. Can i do a polytech course and learn the basics? Not till you have learned to speak Maori. Fuck that, I’ll just go start my apprenticeship.
      
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      June 15, 2023 9:46am
      - Reg Perrin
        
        The apprenticeship system as was known is being bought into the Te Pukenga Fold. ITO’s actually produced surpluses and where there for industry. This will all change as its taken over.
        
        As the majority of the management team have come from Polytechs they don’t really understand the ITO model and the importance of the Industry and employer.
        
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        June 15, 2023 10:03am
      - Matt Long
        
        And that is probably the point of the whole exercise, anyone with a New Zealand qualification must undergo Brownwashing to ensure they understand white guilt, the Principals of Te Tiriti, the need for state control of everything, and why the economy must be crushed to prevent catastrophic climate change.
        
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        June 15, 2023 11:07am
      - cmm
        
        If you look at Christchurch’s CPIT (now called Ara when it combined with the original Ara college), the focus has drifted away from technical skills.
        
        The main campus tries to look like a woke university.
        
        The old “trade school campus” is sorely neglected. It needed a good lick of paint last time I saw. That’s where the more practically oriented trades people still get good training. Unfortunately though they have very little sway in the Ara hierarchy – the majority going to the wokesters.
        
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        June 15, 2023 12:28pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    3 of the biggest soaks after Jaspinda. She got her share from Pfizer though.
    
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    June 15, 2023 8:45am
  - peterwn
    
    There is also reparation due to the Southland institution who had their funds plundered by the new organisation. A significant portion of their funds were donated by local people and organisations. It would have been heartbreaking for Penny Simmonds to see local money snatched away by Chris Hipkins and co,
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:18am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Indeed Peter. I think the sum mentioned by Penny Simmonds was around $21 million, which SIT had built up as a buffer for future growth. Local money, grabbed by a money-hungry government to piss up against the wall in set up costs for the mega-merger, and local areas have every right to feel ripped off by Hipkins, Tinetti and co.
      
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      June 15, 2023 9:53am
  - Biscuit
    
    Resign? Resign? Us worthies don’t RESIGN, pdm, Wee izz importint cityzens! And this is – easily – the best-paying job we’re ever likely to land…
    
    (PS, and a dig at my mate pdm, I bet Kelvin can at least spell his (unworthy) name correctly!)
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:47am
- Prince
  
  The Hipkins effect.
  Has been felt over every portfolio he has held.
  Umm, umm, gotta hide him somewhere.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:40am
  - pdm
    
    `gotta hide him somewhere’
    
    Prime Minister seems a good spot because his predecessor wasn’t up to much either.
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:46am
  - Dave
    
    So much for the media pundits who last year described him as the reliable ‘Mr Fixit’ (or variations thereof) in Ardern’s cabinet.
    
    And what does it suggest will happen with the Government’s other great centrally directed projects such as public health and 3+ Waters?
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:11am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Mr Fuxit
      
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      June 15, 2023 12:41pm
  - Opie
    
    Hipkins is the perfect example of a trap door in the ceiling. When you fuck stuff up, you get moved upwards and have less to do with the day to day stuff and therefore have less effect on people.
    
    Now he is at the top you can see he actually knows nothing about everything
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:29am
    - Groggy
      
      The Steven Joyce effect
      
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      June 15, 2023 1:16pm
- Cassandra
  
  Everything Labour touches turns to dross but I’m far from convinced that reducing polytech staff levels isn’t a good thing. I’m heartily sick of titles for these places in a language that 90% do not understand and you can bet your bottom dollar that any new polytechs will have a Maori deputy head and a Maori studies department, producing a swag of graduates whose only skill is rorting the poor taxpayer.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:40am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yes, the Mokoisation of Polytechs is upon us, like it or not!
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Personally I think ALL Govt Departments and Taxpayer funded entities need this. Sack the lot and re-employ those with qualifications. The rest are on the scrap heap.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:44am
  - cmm
    
    Yup. What does not work is doing reductions. You need to fire everyone and rebuild from scratch.
    
    If you just do staff reductions then the environment becomes toxic, the good staff leave (or take severance packages and then come back as consultants). The crap staff who can’t get lucrative jobs elsewhere are the ones that end up staying. This is always a disaster. It has happened at every large organisation that has downsized.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:21pm
  - mawm
    
    The problem then is that you will have more unemployable people on the dole.
    
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    June 15, 2023 2:37pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    While emotionally put.
    The questions would be.
    1. Who would do the hiring
    2. Where would you find these paragons of virtue.
    
    Sort sounds like a politician pissing in the wind.
    Reality check needed there Mr Otto
    
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    June 15, 2023 5:10pm
- Reg Perrin
  
  Originally the objectives were about re-imagining training with some big ideas proposed. One of the key tenets was about having the learner at the centre and thinking about ways to make training better with better outcomes.
  
  That has all fallen away with all work being focused on trying to merge things with little thought on will this be better for the learner. I asked someone recently if there was still any talk about the learner being the focus and the answer was No
  
  They will be under estimating how complex it will be to merge systems. Having done a few merges in the training sector the biggest barrier is that everyone has their own processes and ways of doing things which and its very hard to get them to think differently as they believe that their sector/area is unique. For Example within an ITO each sector that they look after has their own model which includes delivery and fees. Multiple that across all of the polytechs and ITOs and they will be bogged down for years.
  
  I heard that they are needing to act quick on the new roles as they are losing so many people due to uncertainty and that there is more chaos to come
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:49am
  - cmm
    
    “Originally the objectives…”
    
    No, those were the purported objectives that were sold to us. They were not the real objectives.
    
    The real objectives are what was “achieved”: creating a safe and lucrative environment for woke activists.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:22pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  “I’m in education”. They got what they voted for. And yet, they will vote the same way again. Sorry for them? Not much. Karma is a bitch.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:51am
- Its only I
  
  Staff at Te Pūkenga are feeling “shocked” and “gutted” after hundreds found out their roles have been cut – and they still don’t know how many jobs might be left to reapply for.
  
  Who cares? Is funny if anything at all.
  It’s just an internal Labour thing. Labour will still get their vote either directly or via one of its franchise parties…always new civil servant rolls being created.
  Teachers don’t educate NZ children, are hindered by and strike more during a Labour gov, they vote just the same…Teaching obviously is not about educating children…well that’s not true children have learned to strike just as much as their “Teachers” do.
  
  Its as humorous as Sir Ian Taylors ridiculous open letter to Chloe…signatory to a posturing letter wanting to pay more taxes then writes another posturing letter when there is some blowback from his circle of “friends”, me thinks the noodle is stracotto..in the privacy of the voting booth though it will be a red pen in the left hand with the right eye shut…
  
  Really, who cares anymore?
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:15am
- backster
  
  Te AO Maori and Matarangi are expensive to incorporate.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:44am
- Hapuku
  
  My wife is a nurse educator at a polytech. Te Pukenga has standardised the curriculum which has had the effect of dumbing it down to where it was 20 years ago. The reason for standardization was for those handful of students who change institutions so they can seamlessly transfer.
  
  There were curriculum differences previously between the polytechs but it wasn’t really a problem – in fact, it facilitated innovation as easier to tweak a curriculum at a local level than a national one.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:49am
- Loddenthinks
  
  “Amazingly, no one factored this cost into initial budget projections.” I happen to know for a fact that the cost of merging 16 IT systems was factored into the initial budget projections, along with a strong recommendation that they deliver on that piece of work before trying to develop and implement any of the new systems for students and staff.
  
  It’s more that they have completely ignored that recommendation, pissed all the money up against the wall, and now have nothing left to spend.
  
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  June 15, 2023 11:32am
- artemisia
  
  I guess the layoffs are at least in part to do with not enough money. But typically restructurings are used to lay off employees who no longer fit with the employer’s deliverables. Not necessarily a fault with the employee – though it actually may well be and often is.
  
  Deliverables do change, and just because someone has been in the job 10 years doesn’t mean there is a right to continue regardless.
  
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  June 15, 2023 12:55pm
- nzgoose
  
  I suppose because we fund through tax a large part of the cost it would be imposible for a new institution to set up using international qualifications and bypass the politiburo.
  
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  June 15, 2023 3:31pm
Scott

The lead item on TV 1 news on Wed night was the gang funeral. And what a cringing surrender to gang culture it was.

The deceased was presented as a fine fellow who helped not only gang members but helped the community? Gang members are not part of the community. A gang member is an outlaw who is, by design, not part of the community. A gang member cannot volunteer for the local Lions club or even so much as read a book in the library.

What we actually saw were schools closed, the state highway closed and the spectacle of gang members running amok. It looked like sheer anarchy, a scene from Mad Max.
But we didn’t need an apocalyptic disaster to bring anarchy to NZ. We just needed a labour government.

This is NZ under Labour. The gangs are running the show. If you want more of this vote Labour at the next election. If you want law and order, then you’ll need to place your vote elsewhere.
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June 15, 2023 8:01am
- MCōs
  
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  Apart from anything else don’t you recognize showboating for the cameras when you see it?
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:37am
  - graham
    
    Hmm. I don’t know if you watched it MCōs – I did, and I didn’t get the feeling there was an awful lot of “showboating” going on.
    
    There were reports of shots being fired at a car in Whakatane, there were dozens – if not hundreds – of bikes and cars doing burnouts, multiple schools closed and some people who made the heart-rending decision to leave their own town because they didn’t feel safe.
    
    A bit hard to reconcile this with the lady who was describing the deceased as a phenomenal leader for the community, and painting him as a great man who contributed to the community.
    
    Oh … there was also the not-so-small matter of one prat leaning out his car and shouting “Seig Heil”. Let’s see who in the media will call that out and act all shocked, shall we. Not holding my breath …
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:09am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Indeed.
      
      Posie Parker was vilified by the media as a transphobic Nazi which whipped the trans mob into violent fury. An elderly lady is punched in the face, eye socket fractured, and the 20-year-old punk her assaulted her is given diversion despite it being opposed every step of the way by the victim.
      
      Yet actual Nazi disciples flaunt their hate and cower an entire town while the same woke reporters sanitise the glorification of a criminal thug in their contorted efforts to suck up to the supposed principles of the Treaty.
      
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      June 15, 2023 10:30am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    And if they were showboating, and your theory is that they only act wild in front of cameras (LOL!), then are you implying that it is OK and there was no issue with Opotiki partially shutting down, or policing there nor gang attitudes in general?
    
    Follow up question: Why do you often comment to knock back a post, without seeking to understand what they are saying or addressing the actual content?
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:23am
    - Ghost
      
      Of course they are showboating. This is how the gangs work. They want the media broadcasting this to the world to show the power they have, to create fear.
      
      The gang is loving the media attention, and the media are loving what they can create with it.
      
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      June 15, 2023 10:31am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The Mongrel Mob intimidates folks and particular suburbs whether TV cameras are present or not.
        
        MMobsters strut their stuff whenever and wherever …as long as they are not on their lonesome… then they just look like pathetic kids who haven’t got the guts to stand on their own two feet.
        
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        June 15, 2023 10:50am
      - kevn
        
        @Ghost… They even had a plain clothes police car leading the funeral procession ahead of the hearse.
        How cool is that…
        
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        June 15, 2023 3:05pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Ghost – no need to patronise the gangs that they only act poorly when the media is watching. And if that is not your point, then what is the point?
      I live around Mongrel Mob in my community, and the behaviour of the people around me does not need TV1 or Newshub to be on the scene.
      The parades are for their own gratification and self-importance, and the media being there is just something that makes their infamy sweeter.
      But blame needs to lie where is lies; when there is a rape, threats to kill, bashings, shooting or criminal economy conducting itself, that is a feature of the gang itself and not ‘boys will be boys’ playing up for the camera.
      Hard to see what your point is, unless you covet the next Mongrel Mob media PR person role.
      
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      June 15, 2023 1:15pm
      - Ghost
        
        Did I say they only act poorly when the media are around? It is obviously they are putting on a show for the media. It’s also obvious the media are lapping it up to create more clicks for them. Sounds like you are more suited to be their PR person, good luck with the application
        
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        June 15, 2023 1:24pm
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        [Mod – deleted, don’t make stupid claims no one has said]
        
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        June 15, 2023 3:43pm
  - Ruawai
    
    Why can’t gangs just go about their funerals quietly like the rest of us without all the ‘look at me’. We are all sad when people die, but there is no need to disrespect other people going about their lives.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:30am
  - crikey
    
    It’s not showboating, it’s yet another example of defiance – “we can do what we like”.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:46am
  - JamesP
    
    They don’t care about being on the TV news. Imagine thinking they even watch it. They were on their cellphones filming it for social media posts promoting the gang “lifestyle”. If you think they only showboat for the cameras then I have some bad news: these days there always cameras everywhere there are people.
    
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    June 15, 2023 11:06am
- Ghost
  
  The gang funerals have always been like this, just this time the schools decided to close
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/74036328/mongrel-mob-renege-on-funeral-procession-promise
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/322562/shots-fired-during-mongrel-mob-funeral-procession
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/mongrel-mob-and-black-power-gangs-brawl-during-funeral-procession/SNPJFMCJYWIWTKN5RREOQ65M4E/
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:43am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    And the issue is the trajectory here – and not that (gasp!) gangs are still composed of dangerous feral animals.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:25am
  - kowtow
    
    “Always,” my fat white arse.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:13pm
- Clyde
  
  EVERYONE needs to complain to both TV1 and TV3 about the apalling coverage of the drama that surrounded this piece of scum causing havoc even after he was murdered. It was apalling journalism.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:25am
- Bob
  
  This is NZ under Labour…….
  and this was tame, compared to what is in store with a possible Maori/Labour/Green govt after the 2023 election
  
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  June 15, 2023 2:23pm
Grunter

International excess death data presented by Dr John Campbell in the UK. This is horrifying to say the least. The data continues to paint a very bad situation in the developed (Jabbed) countries. NZ is one of the worst countries for 2023, some weeks +30% above the 2014-19 average baseline. And no one wants to even acknowledge the data let alone start investigating what is going on.

No matter what the reason (Long Covid, Jab Injuries, Lockdowns/Delayed Health Treatments – take your pick) – we need to know what the hell is going on! If you still think this is some sort of tinfoil-hat conspiracy, think again. Personally, I’m triple-jabbed, I was a QR code scanning maniac, I washed my hands….. I am now trying any spike protein neutralisation regime I can find to get this crap out of my body.

With excess deaths this high in so many different countries, no one can claim the COVID Jabs were an EFFECTIVE Treatment (deaths have increased FFS). And to me, it is also very clear that they were NOT SAFE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95T2Bqht4Xg
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June 15, 2023 8:01am
- mandk
  
  Hallelujah!
  
  Brothers and Sisters, Grunter has emerged from the dark side into the light.
  
  Dr Campbell be praised.
  
  Not safe, not effective.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:29am
- Gaetano
  
  Agree. I have been following the excess deaths data for some time.
  
  Of course no politicians are willing to even acknowledge that these deaths are happening.
  
  A couple of years on just reflect on the absurdity of the “elimination strategy” and Jacinda doing her little dance at the end of the first L4 lockdown on the day there were zero new cases.
  
  A colleague is currently ill with COVID – not hospitalised but reportedly very unwell. He has had FIVE shots of the vaccine.
  
  This nightmare will never end until there is a Royal Commission with sweeping terms of reference. Finding the Commissioners would be a challenge. They would need to be outside the ‘establishment’. It won’t happen any time soon because National and AC T are just as culpable.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:06am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    I’m not a medical expert, but maybe worth having a look at this protocol which I used a few weeks back when I was ill.
    
    About this Protocol
    The information in this document is our recommended approach to COVID-19 based on the best (and most recent) literature. It is provided as guidance to healthcare providers worldwide on the early treatment of COVID-19. Patients should always consult with their provider before starting any medical treatment.
    
    https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/i-care-early-covid-treatment/
    
    I can say I got through it relatively quickly without suffering too much. Of course, I can’t prove that following the protocol made the difference, but on the positive side, there is nothing in the protocol that could cause any harm. Mostly over the counter stuff.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:28am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Grunter – you could look at this. I’m not a medical expert, but I believe the information here is reliable.
  It’s Dr Paul Marik from the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC).
  I used their protocol when I got what might have been covid. I say might have because I have never tested, but was around people who did test positive apparently.
  
  I had the necessary products at home, including Ivermectin which I got from an animal products outlet.
  I had previously ordered Ivermectin from overseas, but the NZ health authorities saved my life by stopping it at the border and telling me I was very naughty…..
  I followed the FLCCC protocol and got through whatever respiratory illness I had with minimal problems, most of which cleared within 7 days.
  
  So, what can we do to address the harmful effects of spike proteins? And is there a way to get rid of it?
  “We have enormous potential of self-repair — self-healing,” attested Dr. Marik. And we do that through an evolutionary process called autophagy, “which is truly astonishing.”
  
  https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/de-spike-naturally-recovery-insights
  
  Worth looking into I believe. Best of luck getting this shit out of your system.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:14am
  - Grunter
    
    Thanks – that’s exactly what I’ve been following. The Nattokinase has helped, and I’m Day 3 into the intermittent fasting (skip breakfast, relatively easy to do) to kick in the Autophagy process. It has definitely made an impact on my health issues already. Maybe some placebo effect going on, who knows….? If nothing else I’ll lose some weight that I don’t need!
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:44am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      There is certainly nothing harmful in any of the recommendations!
      
      I’m doing the intermittent fasting, I didn’t get the jab so not for that reason, but it’s an excellent way to help maintain general health.
      
      That’s one of those bizarre parts of the whole covid circus, at no point, not once, did our ‘experts’ tell people about lifestyle, diet, exercise choices that could be made to improve likely outcomes in any time of illness.
      Instead we get locked down, no natural vitamin D, no exercise, sedentary, often eating and drinking too much and the wrong things.
      
      It’s almost as if they wanted poor outcomes.
      
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      June 15, 2023 11:02am
- Joely Doe
  
  Personally, I’m triple-jabbed, I was a QR code scanning maniac…
  
  Spare a thought for those of us that were coerced into 3 jabs – you got to choose
  Never scanned in anywhere, ever
  Refused to wear masks, as ‘The Science’ said it was bullshit
  Now you’re worried?
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:27am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Everybody got to choose. The coercion was done to everyone in the country.
    
    Some people were better placed to resist than others. Some people wanted an easier life. Some people believed the lies about “2 weeks to flatten the curve”. Some people believed that the jabs would ‘save’ us.
    Some people genuinely believed everything they were told by the daily pulpit of truth.
    
    I have numerous friends who lost their jobs for refusing to accede to the coercion. But each person’s circumstances were different.
    
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    June 15, 2023 11:10am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The information keeps coming and the media and politicians keep hiding from it.
  
  Horowitz: Confidential Pfizer document shows the company observed 1.6 million adverse events covering nearly every organ system
  
  https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-confidential-pfizer-document-shows-the-company-observed-1-6-million-adverse-events-covering-nearly-every-organ-system-2661316948.html
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:31am
- mawm
  
  Cardiologist Peter McCullough has a piece on the use of Nattokinase to dissolve the spike protein. It comes from fermented soybeans and is available as an over the counter oral supplement.
  
  Read all about it.
  https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/dissolution-of-spike-protein-by-nattokinase
  
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  June 15, 2023 3:08pm
Warren

Chris Luxon has been proved right when voicing his opinion on how negitive a portion of New Zealander’s are with his comments, about wet and whiney people and the Prime Minister and Labour confirm this with there attempt at comedy with twisting his comments “I haven’t met anyone that wet and whinny” as Hipkins reacts to Luxon comment at the annual Field days.
But it hasn’t Labour long to show its nastiness and prove Chris Luxon right by putting in a complaint up over sets of golf balls being sold at field days by Groundswell a farm protest group that were selling these packs of balls showing the faces of the Prime Minister’s and other Minister’s at the annual Mystery Creek event on Wednesday.
“Drive Labour out- Golf Balls- the Golf Balls won’t mind being put in the Bunker” , the group said it said it had about 500 sets of the “special edition and they were “selling well”.
Newshub have been told someone monitoring Labours stall at the Field days complained about the Golf balls to the event organizers and we have been told to remove them.
Chris Luxon has been proved right when voicing his opinion on how negitive a portion of New Zealander’s are with his comments, about wet and whiney people and the Prime Minister and Labour confirm this with there attempt at comedy with twisting his comments “I haven’t met anyone that wet and whinny” as Hipkins reacts to Luxon comment at the annual Field days.
But it hasn’t Labour long to show its nastiness and prove Chris Luxon right by putting in a complaint up over sets of golf balls being sold at field days by Groundswell a farm protest group that were selling these packs of balls showing the faces of the Prime Minister’s and other Minister’s at the annual Mystery Creek event on Wednesday.
“Drive Labour out- Golf Balls- the Golf Balls won’t mind being put in the Bunker” , the group said it said it had about 500 sets of the “special edition and they were “selling well”.
Newshub have been told someone monitoring Labours stall at the Field days complained about the Golf balls to the event organizers and we have been told to remove them.,
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/political-drama-over-golf-balls-at-fieldays.html

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June 15, 2023 8:05am
- Matt Long
  
  Yes, the very definition of wet and whiney.
  
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  June 15, 2023 11:16am
- C-Town
  
  I bought my neice a Dora the Explorer ball from Toyworld last Christmas. She kicks it around all over the place. It doesn’t mean she hates Dora and wants to inflict violence on her.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:16pm
- Ghost
  
  I’d complain too. It’s wrong to put their faces on balls, because no one in labour has any balls.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:19pm
Simon

Send Michael Wood to Opotiki to talk about wealth tax. These 24 hr MSM news cycles are rubbish.
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June 15, 2023 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  There was plenty of nazi salutes and swatikas in evidence at Opo ,so Wood should be on target , anti semitism etc , unlike when he lied about the peaceful protest at parliament.
  
  He could take Cushla abNormal with him.
  
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  June 15, 2023 12:16pm
- kevn
  
  @Simon… Send kiri allan and that rawhiti colonial victim. It is their turf.
  Oh, most of the scum have gone home by now… to crow no doubt.
  
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  June 15, 2023 3:15pm
Simon

A lot of crying about the Gweens wealth tax but not the UBI aspect.

Suspect a lot of the people know that a significant proportion of the population are now nothing more than permanent children who will ever be wards of the state. The system has created these children in adult bodies.
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June 15, 2023 8:12am
kiwikidsnz

https://ourfuture.fishandgame.org.nz/

Last year, the Government released the Natural and Built Environment Bill (NBEA) to replace the Resource Management Act (RMA).

The proposed Bill creates a new framework for how New Zealand manages its natural environment including freshwater, bio-diversity and resources.

Fish & Game is extremely concerned about this Bill and its implications for the sustainable management of our natural environment and the future of game bird hunting and freshwater fishing.

And it could herald a major threat to the future of all forms of fishing and hunting in this country including freshwater fishing, game bird hunting and big game hunting.g
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June 15, 2023 8:12am
Bridgenag

German Health Minister announces new initiative to combat heat wave deaths by calling old people, reminding them to drink water
The political circus known as Germany marches on.

“The Corona parallels here are clear, and they go much deeper than the failed 223-Million Euro Corona-Warn-App. The truth is that the world lost its mind over a not-very-dangerous virus, and to justify the disproportionate response, our policymakers and the gatekeepers of our public discourse responded not by backing off, but by dialling acceptable standards of risk downwards. They’ve now brought them so low, that even hay fever is sufficient to trigger official mask recommendations.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/german-health-minister-announces?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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June 15, 2023 8:16am
In Vino Veritas

Lol, another socialist when it suits him. Barrack When President, Obama railed many times against the carried interest loophole (and laughably had an ad campaign against Romney for using the “loophole” when he was a PE executive). He whined the “loophole” was a giveaway to the super-rich.
And lo, as with all of these types, he uses a similar mechanism to receive income from his NBA Africa investment – a profit interest arrangement. Essentially any income is treated as a capital gain rather than income, so is taxed at a lower amount. Barrack Obama, as well as being one of the worst US Presidents, just another socialist hypocrite.
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June 15, 2023 8:25am
Maggie Pie

While I would never abandon my faith, it is beyond disturbing, to now discover the Catholic Church has been funding and performing gender reassignment surgeries and prescribing cross sex hormones 🙁

https://twitter.com/Travis_in_Flint/status/1669059009460969477
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June 15, 2023 8:32am
- lifesgood
  
  After reading replies to this tweet it would appear this is false.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:38am
  - Matt Long
    
    That would seem the most obvious conclusion, however the failure of the Catholic Church to expel Joe Biden, who is openly promoting sex reassignment surgery on children, means in effect the Catholics are promoting the same.
    
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    June 15, 2023 11:22am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Rubbish. Biden has virtually no support or agreement from the Catholic people in the USA. He is criticised as a CINO – Catholic in Name Only. There are many so called Catholics in that camp – Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry just to name a couple more.
      
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      June 15, 2023 11:31am
      - Matt Long
        
        I have seen Pelosi refused sacraments by a bishop for promoting abortion, I’ve seen no public condemnation of Biden’s actions by those in authority in the Catholic Church. Perhaps you can point me to what I’ve missed?
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        June 15, 2023 1:20pm
- mandk
  
  Performing gender reassignment surgeries and prescribing cross sex hormones and puberty blockers is, at best, extremely ill-advised.
  
  But performing abortions is inexcusably evil.
  
  Do you ever wonder, Maggie, whether your Pope might be an apostate?
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:43am
  - Gaetano
    
    Performing gender reassignment surgeries on minors is worse than “ill advised”.
    
    Women have been seeking abortions for centuries.
    
    Fortunately the abortion rate in New Zealand has been declining for 20 years. Teen abortion rates have fallen dramatically in the last 10 years. Hopefully that trend will continue.
    
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/abortion-statistics-year-ended-december-2019/
    
    Giving children “gender reasignment” treatment will hopefully be looked back on in 20 years the same way we look back on ice pick lobotomies in the 1950s.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:21am
    - Observer of Life
      
      So is the abortion rate down due to the teenagers now keeping the child, as it’s worth their while financially? (Haven’t read your link, so apologise now if it explains this).
      
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      June 15, 2023 11:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Nek minut it will be compulsory.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:47am
- Its only I
  
  Conversion therapy version 2?
  God’s work via technology.
  Thoughts don’t fit your body?
  God will fix it for ya..for a fee..
  Swallow these down while we prepare to hack off the rest.
  
  Religion has been given a free pass to mutilate the genitals of children for centuries..is this just a return to the good old days some crave?
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:30am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, I am happy for your beliefs but I have always wondered why Priests and Nuns (tentatively) accept celibacy?
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:16am
  - Gaetano
    
    Isn’t it compulsory? It’s not like they get a choice.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:31am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Yeah, it’s me again with play school TV1 breakfast. Daniel Faitaua on boat people somewhere (Italy?) (paraphrased) ’70 something people on a boat have drowned’
Come on Daniel, you are one of the more intelligent ones. What is wrong with this picture?
Nobody drowns ‘on’ a boat ffs.
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June 15, 2023 8:39am
- youcanthandlethetruth
  
  Some passengers on the Titantic may beg to differ.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They still drowned in the water, not ‘on’ the Titanic.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:03pm
    - Groggy
      
      if you go down with the ship you are simultaneously drowning in the water and still on the boat.
      
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      June 15, 2023 1:34pm
- Ehlana
  
  We regularly hear of these boats failing and people dying, but the reality is most people do get through, so the risk is worth the reward of a lifetime in Europe, since I don’t think Europe ever send anyone back.
  Maybe the Australians were on to it with their refusal to have them on Australian soil – it seems to have killed the industry far more effectively than Europe has managed to do.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:48am
  - All_on_Red
    
    42,000 to Italy so far this year.
    They are changing the Law so there is reduced protection for Migrants who don’t qualify for asylum ie most of them.
    Of course the EU is unhappy with this, which probably explains the bad press about ‘Right Wing’ Italy…
    https://www.dw.com/en/italy-new-law-curtails-migrants-rights/a-65552219
    
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    June 15, 2023 8:56am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Enforcement of borders makes you a far right regime in Europe nowadays. The left decreed it so and nobody asks how come. Policies directed at helping families and empowering parents are fascist and to value your own culture and celebrate your peoples heroes means you endorse slavery and racism. The left says so so it is so and the hapless career politicians go along with it regardless of their party affiliations because they think the social media mobs are the voice of the people and therefore the electorate. Spineless toads.
      
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      June 15, 2023 9:27am
    - Gravelroad
      
      What happens to all the international aid money which goes to the countries from which these citizens are fleeing?
      Is it ever accounted for?
      I have heard two speakers recently who raise money and collect goods to support ordinary struggling people in two different Pacific Island nations.
      Both claimed that the aid money donated from, for example, NZ and Australia, for the building of schools, health centres and other infrastructure projects is usually syphoned off by corrupt leaders and officials for their own personal use.
      Plenty of whom, allegedly have flash holiday homes on Australia’s Gold Coast…….
      
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      June 15, 2023 9:27am
      - mawm
        
        Mugabe was fairly reasonable in Western eyes until Blair told him future aid was dependant on accounting for the spending of aid received. It seems to have triggered him somewhat and all his evilness was exposed.
        
        I really cannot fathom out what these 3rd world despots need 5 or so luxury houses in other countries on top of billions in a Swiss bank. I might ask Zelensky if I ever get a chance.
        
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        June 15, 2023 3:24pm
  - Flossie
    
    It always seems to be 90% young men. Why do they not stay with the women and children and try to protect them from the awful regime from which they themselves are fleeing.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:34am
- kowtow
  
  Politicians, by failing to stop the boats are responsible , in no small measure for these deaths.
  
  It can be done , Oz did , so they can . But they’re either afraid of being accused of being unkind or somesuch or they’re happy to allow the lawless nature of what’s happening ……..
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:54am
- softail 1450
  
  Au contraire Steve ,NZ is frequently referred to as a boat (sometimes rudderless) so I’d suspect the way labour have run our economy over the past 6 years half the population is drowning in debt right now.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:55am
- graham
  
  I like Daniel Faitaua also – on those occasions when he presents TV1 News at 6 pm he reads the news clearly … and in English. It is a real joy to be able to listen to the news without having to try and interpret what the newsreader is saying.
  
  But I can’t forget that, as the UK correspondent he also repeated the nonsense last year that Britain’s railway lines were “melting”. Yes, according to several of the more stupid headlines at the time, steel railway lines in the UK were “literally melting” in 40 degree heat.
  
  I despair …
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:56am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The point was Daniel Faitaua should have picked up that blatant mistake.
  I am against illegal immigration especially at the US/Mexico border. On the other hand look at what these people are fleeing in Europe.
  Then it gets really exploited. How do Middle Eastern terrorists end up coming over the US border? They have to be planted there by the likes of the Taliban. Sleepers. And yes, they are here in NZ.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:07am
  - sirknz
    
    Oh come on, they just read the teleprompter.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk4DYTPPpfs [The Anchorman]
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:19am
cmm

I got a contact call from the local (Ilam) National election office. Ilam is an electorate Gerry Brownlee had held for 8 elections. Before that, National had held Ilam (and its precursor Fendalton) solidly going back to 1946 with Sidney Holland.

It seems that last election Brownlee put his feet up and expected a free ride then he didn’t get it – he lost a 75-year-strong National seat. Resoundingly. From 20% ahead in 2017 to 8% behind in 2020.

So, I was asked, what were my big national issues? Well to me it is obvious: crime in the short term and education in the long term. Both need sorting out otherwise NZ is severely screwed.

And locally, crime. I cited that the vape shop about 100 metres from Gerry Brownlee’s old electorate offices now has plywood over the front after a burglary/ram raid.

The biggest question I have is whether National really has it in them to sort things out. They are not the National of even 10 years ago.
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June 15, 2023 8:41am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The Labour MP got in on the Ardern Wave. She will be gone and hopefully that TOP bloke will get in and bring in a few MPs with him.
  
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  June 15, 2023 8:47am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    God, please no! Still, anything would be better I suppose than an MP who believes with absolute conviction that men can have babies!
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:40am
    - Ghost
      
      Of course men can have babies, they’re called kidney stones
      
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      June 15, 2023 9:46am
      - Local Miller
        
        Having had a few of these, I concur.
        
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        June 15, 2023 2:51pm
  - Yabster
    
    hope not- screw the lolly scramble they have planned and a land tax.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:31am
  - crikey
    
    Fighting.…: The TOP bloke will not get in, the outcome being simply to take votes away from candidates and parties which have a legitimate chance of forming a centre-right government, ridding us of the worst government ever, of any colour. If you want to be rid of Labour, wake up and use your votes to best effect.
    
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    June 15, 2023 11:12am
- peterwn
  
  Vote ACT then if it will make you feel better.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:20am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Brownlee got caught in the red wave that saw a lot of National seats get lost last time around. I haven’t met the new Ilam candidate Hamish Campbell (will see him at conference in two weeks) but he has definitely been wearing out shoes door-knocking which is always good to see. There’s no substitute for a candidate meeting people on their doorsteps and talking face to face.
  
  As far as Gerry goes, he will likely become Speaker in a National government, hence the pre-emptive move to list only.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:38am
  - Flossie
    
    I lived in Hamilton for two general elections – a work from home hardly ever out, and on only one occasion did I have a candidate knock at my door. As it turned out it was the one I was going to vote for anyway, but the others weren’t to know that.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:38am
    - alex Masterley
      
      I can beat that.
      I have lived in the Mt Albert electorate since 2000.
      I’ve never seen a candidate come to our door in that time, be it local board, auckland council or electorate.
      Nada nothing zip zilch.
      
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      June 15, 2023 12:39pm
    - My
      
      I was in Hamilton West Electorate a couple of elections ago. At home with a broken leg. David Bennett comes a knocking. As I hobble to the door the Bichon Poodle makes a break for it, off down the street.
      I tell the MP if you can catch the dog, I’ll vote for you. He goes sprinting after it and after 5 minutes comes back with it under his arm.
      I was going to vote for him anyway.
      
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      June 15, 2023 2:20pm
hmmokrightitis

PM Hipkins: “Gangs contribute nothing”.

Also PM Hipkins (a member of the cabinet who saw fit to fund the gangs): Presides over massive gang membership increase and lets them get away with general lawlessness.

Aren’t we a lucky country to have such a dedicated and focused PM looking after our best interests?
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June 15, 2023 8:43am
- I remember when
  
  “Gangs contribute nothing.”
  Gangs in fact contribute a substantial amount to our crime figures and to lawless behaviour.
  While a major part of their violent offending may be against other gang members, this is inclined to conceal the fact that it is to protect their illegal activities.
  Much of the publicity is tempered by the fact that the most visible (Black Power and Mongrel Mob) are Maori/Polynesian and the race card is played.
  It should always be emphasized that they are first and foremost criminal groups, responsible for numerous murders, drug activity, theft and assault and battery.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:30am
- Gaetano
  
  “PM Hipkins: “Gangs contribute nothing”.”
  
  It is an absurd statement because it is so self-evident.
  
  If he had said “Gangs are a menace to society and I am going to make it my mission to go to war with them”, well yeah I would have paid attention.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:35am
Maggie Pie

Anyone else notice a pattern forming here?

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1669080898640179210
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June 15, 2023 8:54am
- Libertarians are right
  
  So represent as someone who’s going to murder a bunch of people and the cops have to wait until you actually do it but misgender someone and armed cops give you a visit? The UK is screwed.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:02am
  - Ghost
    
    He was only known to mi5 because they logged him after knocking on their door, wasn’t known to the police.
    
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    June 15, 2023 9:26am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      He was known to the police..
      
      31-year-old suspect has had mental health issues and was previously known to police
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/14/nottingham-attack-police-try-to-establish-motive
      
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      June 15, 2023 11:08am
- sirknz
  
  Noticing patterns is racist and makes you are far right terrorist.
  – The Media
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:14am
Rusty

A new Beatles song is coming out this year created by AI (artificial intelligence)

Where is all this AI technology heading?

Famous dead people in the music, movie, and political worlds etc, coming back to life is creepy
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June 15, 2023 8:58am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Captured beautifully in this scene from Blade Runner 2024.
  Depicts a slightly misfunctioning Elvis hologram.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSC7FFCH8x8
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:44am
- C-Town
  
  I think that AI has benign making music for the last 2 decades. That’s what modern radio stations sound like to me.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:21pm
- Ghost
  
  The ai was used to clean up john’s voice from a cassette demo.
  
  What’s creepy about it?
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:24pm
kiwikidsnz

“They are not the National of even 10 years ago.”

That’s the timing & result of the decade of Peter Goodfellow’s National party presidency.
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June 15, 2023 8:58am
All_on_Red

A while ago someone posted an article about emails between Ministry of Health to Govt about risks of under 18’s taking the Covid vaccine and about how the Govt did not disclose that.
Would appreciate someone providing a link please.
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June 15, 2023 9:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Email the Hon. Dr Ayesha Verrall. I’m sure she can help.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:12am
- Joely Doe
  
  This one?
  Covid and our kiwi kids
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:46am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Thanks but thats not it.
    It was a news source which used a FOIA request to expose the emails.
    
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    June 15, 2023 3:31pm
- Gaetano
  
  Funny thing is that 45 percent of 5 – 11 year olds got the COVID vaccine. It was way more than I had thought.
  
  https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data
  
  What is interesting is that less than 20 percent of the “over 30s” have taken up the offer of the bivalent Pfizer booster that has been available since 1 April. The numbers being vaccinated each week have fallen to a trickle so the take up rate is unlikely to reach even 20 percent by the end of winter.
  
  You would think that the Health Minister might comment on 80 percent of folk simply ignoring her plea to get boosted. Again.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/484724/new-bivalent-covid-19-vaccine-booster-to-be-available-to-over-30s
  
  “This is a really important thing for making sure our health system continues to function well over winter. It’ll keep you safe, and your whānau safe, if you get vaccinated.”
  
  A journalist might ask her:
  
  “ummm as 80 percent of people have ignored you, does that mean that our health system will now fail over winter?”
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:43am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    The health minister is lying, and nobody in politics or mainstream media is asking the relevant questions.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:47am
  - rjay
    
    The health system is failing. At Gisbourne 60% of anesthesitists have left. Only 3 general wards are open. No one in charge.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:52am
Maggie Pie

Hoping one of the fam might be able to help here….

Does anyone know what Sir Maarten Wevers is doing these days?

Asking for a friend.
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June 15, 2023 9:11am
- peterwn
  
  He is the “Registrar of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of Members of Parliament” and is investigating Michael Wood. This function may be part of a wider job he holds.
  
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  June 15, 2023 9:23am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    OK. Thx so much Pete!
    Just we were discussing last night who was doing the investigation into Nashie…. and Marty’s name came up.
    Do you know if he’s a salaried public servant or acts as a government consultant that charges by the hour?
    Can’t find his name on the latest list of highest paid public sector bosses.
    
    https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1669079972097523712
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:17am
    - Gaetano
      
      Sir Maarten Wevers was a senior diplomat and subsequently Chief Executive of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.
      
      The “Registrar of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of Members of Parliament” is not a public servant. He is a Parliamentary official, appointed by David Wilson, the Clerk of the Parliament.
      
      https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/parliamentary-rules/standing-orders-2020-by-chapter/appendix-b-pecuniary-and-other-specified-interests/
      
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      June 15, 2023 11:47am
    - peterwn
      
      Looking at Wikipedia he seems to be retired from full time employment so the ‘registrar’ job is probably a post retirement part time job so he does not get bored out of his skull. He was Chief Executive of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet so he would have been among the higher paid public servants.
      
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      June 15, 2023 2:00pm
Bridgenag

“Science wars—How much risk should soldiers be exposed to in military experimentation?”
A bioethical justification for throwing people under the bus :

https://open.substack.com/pub/tessa/p/science-warshow-much-risk-should?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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June 15, 2023 9:17am
I remember when

If you are ethnically say 40% Maori, are you more responsible for the problems of ‘colonisation’ than needing to be a recipient of compensation.
The Treaty was an agreement between the British Crown and the Maori people of New Zealand.
Very few New Zealanders now qualify for either category, in the sense it existed at the time of its signing.
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June 15, 2023 9:24am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Some might say that the Treaty had one job – to agree between the crown and chiefs that Maori were to cede sovereignty to the Crown, and in exchange, they were granted all of the protections, rights and privileges of British Citizens.
  
  After which British law applied. Permanently.
  
  This does not mean that mistreatment – alienation of property etc should not be addressed and properly, but that Common Law is the mechanism to do this.
  
  So, anybody really disagree? – and on what grounds?
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:10am
  - kowtow
    
    The treaty’s one job has to be seen in the context of the time.
    
    UK govt had very little real interest in NZ , until Wakefield and Co launched his expedition to buy land here and colonise.
    
    That put the wind up Westminster and they got the skids on to get Hobson out here to pre empt Wakefield.
    
    It was about ceding sovereignty and the Crown wanting to control land sales .
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:57am
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      I agree – an orderly land sales process, to avoid the inevitable chaos of an out of control settler company on one hand trying to rip off everything that wasn’t bolted down! and out of control tribal warfare on the other – with the potential for extreme nastiness to break out – plus of course the French stirring the pot as usual… A perfect storm
      
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      June 15, 2023 2:35pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    A few days ago there was a link to Apirana Ngata’s view on the Treaty. It’s probably the most important interpretation of the Treaty from someone who actually had to deal with many of the early Treaty issues and who did a great deal for Maori culture and language.
    
    He very much takes the common law position and drops quite a few truth bombs on the activists of the time.
    
    Unfortunately, current understanding of the Treaty comes from an academic from the 1970s called Ruth Ross who completely invented a bunch of arguments with zero evidence which a useless judge doubled down on and now we’re a mess.
    
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    June 15, 2023 11:16am
- Burtland
  
  yes how does one reconcile your predominant pakeha genes with your recessive maori ones?
  
  is there such a thing as Racial Dysphoria?
  
  seems to play out the same way as gender disphoria – cross dressing, excessive tatooing… //
  
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  June 15, 2023 11:00am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

COVID-19 Omicron Subvariant XBB 1.16 is On the Rise.

Too late for Chippie and NZ Govt to do any lockdowns etc, but in the US the Dems will be all over this.

https://therightwingclub.com/americanpatriotclub/hold-on-to-your-mail-in-ballots-covid-19-omicron-subvariant-xbb-1-16-is-on-the-rise/
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June 15, 2023 9:25am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

‘Weaponized’ Agencies Run ‘Psychological Warfare’ Ops On American Citizens./

Who is this Jack Smith dude? Innocent name?
Obliterate the Deep State.Videos. 0.48 sec.
Russia/Ukraine ended in 24 hours? Special prosecutor to bury the Bidens? 0.50 sec.

https://valiantnews.com/2023/06/trump-weaponized-agencies-run-psychological-warfare-ops-on-american-citizens/
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June 15, 2023 9:42am
TripeWryter

I spent a few minutes over my first morning coffee reading a piece in The New Zealand Herald by Thomas Coughlan.
He is the deputy political editor so I was surprised – or was I? – about how shallow and trite it was.
Christopher Luxon should spend more time in Wellington, Young Coughlan tells us (and, I suppose, Luxon).
It seems to me that our political media are annoyed and frustrated that Luxon refuses to play their ‘Gotcha’ games.
He is polite to them but it seems to me that he doesn’t give a fuck about them. Which annoys them because they think they should be taken more seriously.
You see the same reaction to the Mayor of Auckland. He doesn’t dance to their demands no matter how much Simon Wilson and Todd Nialls get outraged.
And why should Luxon take the Press Gallery seriously when they have such open biases now and concentrate on trivia.
Like Cushla Lebensborn of TV1 Thomas Coughlan tries to justify the adolescent reaction to Luxon’s remarks about more babies.
It was a throwaway remark. Thomas, Cushla, and the Press Gallery need to sit down, have a vegan coffee, and get over it.
Similarly the ‘whiny’ remark. It might surprise the insular, Wellington-bubbled Press Gallery that outside Wellington how much people agreed with him.
In a way the Press Gallery’s reactions are a picture of how they have become disconnected from the communities – us, in other words – they purport to serve.
It was the same in Britain only eight years ago. The educated[?] London media made sure their views were prominent in the debate.
They disdained the rest of Britain and sneered at anybody who disagreed with them or who they though were not as clever as them.
They did not react well when the rest of Britain defied them and voted Brexit.
I think Christopher Luxon is doing exactly the right thing: stay out of Wellington. Keep the hacks at arm’s-length.
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June 15, 2023 9:46am
- kingerstinger
  
  Coughlan the Chinless Wonder loves a snarky headline with no real substance beneath it (it hides behind the Premium paywall).
  
  Luxon is out meeting regular Kiwis and making himself accessible. It will pay off in the long run.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:13am
- graham
  
  On Tuesday I caught Heather du Plessis Allen and Barry Soper doing their regular discussion at 4:45.
  
  Barry was opining that Luxon needed to get to know the media, at which Heather said the problem was that he was a rational member of the press gallery, and pointed out that when you have others in the press gallery comparing the National Party to Nazis, they’re obviously so far woke they’re a lost cause.
  
  To describe their comments on the press gallery – and by implication, specifically Cushla Norman – as scathing would be an understatement.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:20am
Ghost

Bit long but worth scanning through

Dr. Greer’s Groundbreaking National Press Club Event

– New Top Secret Testimony
– Dr. Greer will unveil the beginnings of the Intelligence Archive that is guiding the US Government in uncovering the truth about the UFO/UAP issue.

YouTube
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June 15, 2023 9:47am
Random T Person

Anyone hear the ridiculous, half-asleep Tim from the cops, going on about how the gangs running rampant in Whakatane works ‘for the police’? FFS. I might write a letter.
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June 15, 2023 9:49am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Seems Fox may have made a huge mistake.
Tucker: They’ve Been Plotting Trump’s Arrest Since 2016.

Video 13.22. 2.50 in, the lies…..

https://valiantnews.com/2023/06/tucker-theyve-been-plotting-trumps-arrest-since-2016/
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June 15, 2023 9:55am
- Inandout
  
  SO, anyone with any sense of reality would realise the Washington Machine has attempted to take down Trump from the day he became President. But Washington by and large are stuck in the old ways of sending out their ‘messages’. Non MSM is taking off in a massive way and reaping the viewers as a reward. I have hope for the future.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:30am
- mawm
  
  Someone else I find worth listening to is Jeffrey Sachs. He has a good bit to say about Washington, etc. at The Duran. Lots of political history and interpretation and their shenanigans.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkrQokUYMmY
  
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  June 15, 2023 3:50pm
Lance

Yesterday I needed an urgent X-Ray, My GP strongly hinted I should just pay for one as the hospital has now become so bad, it can take up to a week to get a result back. Recently another patient of his was sent to the hospital for an urgent X-Ray and it was such a shit show getting the result it took the better part of a week, the patient had lung cancer as it turned out.
We know surgery is a shit show under this joke of a govt, now even the basics like X-Rays are degenerating into a farce.
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June 15, 2023 10:01am
- Ghost
  
  Last time I needed an xray, earlier this year, walked out the GP’s office, got in the car and the xtay department called, booked me in for that afternoon. GP had the xray in my records that afternoon, he checked it, told me what was in it, report took another day.
  
  But on xray technicians, I know one that moved to nz and was told to work at the meat works for a year to improve her English before applying at the hospital. Her English is better than some of the nurses there.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:09am
  - Lance
    
    That used to be my experience with Waitakere Hospital ancillary services (or whatever you call them), quick, efficient and timely. But it has recently gone to the dogs.
    I strongly suspect many sections of the health sector have reached such a tipping point.
    
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    June 15, 2023 10:40am
  - cmm
    
    Modern xray machines are all electronic.
    
    The “film plate” thing you hold is no longer a film plate that neds developing etc. It is actually a sensor similar to a digital camera.
    
    Within 5 seconds of them zapping you, the wifi in the “film plate” has transferred the image to the technician’s station. If the image looks good then they click “yes” and it is attached to your records where the GP can view it.
    
    It takes under a minute all up.
    
    What does take longer is a radiologist/specialist having a look and adding their report.
    
    In 2018 or so, I got sent home with a broken leg because the emergency department doc missed the fracture. Luckily the orthopaedic surgeon that reviewed it a few days later picked up the fracture and called me back to put my leg in a cast.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:54pm
- miltonF
  
  Had a similar experience around two years ago. Minor hernia. Had to pay for my own ultrasound. GP (who I also had to pay for) tells me there isn’t really any point in putting me on the waiting list as I’d be such low priority that I’d be waiting years for surgery. He suggested going private (which I’d also have to pay for).
  
  Still living with that hernia today. Thankfully it’s minor and only tends to give me grief after hard exercise. Anyone who says we have a world leading “free” healthcare system is full of absolute kaka. You have to pay for everything if you actually want to receive healthcare in a reasonable time period. Might as well just privatise the whole shebang and give everyone massive tax cuts. Provide healthcare “vouchers” for those who can’t afford insurance. Much like Medicare in the States or Medicaid in Australia.
  
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  June 15, 2023 4:44pm
I remember when

The Conservative Woman:
“The Light” is a monthly print bulletin launched in October 2020, by musician Darren Nesbit, as a means of bypassing Covid-19 censorship.
Initially distributed at covid lockdown protests, it rapidly spread nationwide now printing 250,000 copies a month.
Hundreds of volunteers purchase copies in bulk and distribute them, awakening more people to the globalist power-grab of our property, privacy, democracy and freedom.
In other words, the Great Reset.
As printed copy it has largely averted much of the censorship exerted on Independent media.
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June 15, 2023 10:06am
- ClanMcleod
  
  That’s an excellent article showing the awful depths the BBC have descended to in their narrative control and attempts to shut down any dissenting voice.
  
  Marianna Spring and her ‘Verify’ project is the UK equivalent to NZ’s Kate Hannah and the ‘Disinformation Project’.
  ‘Verify’ has been rightly been renamed ‘vilify’ in many alt media circles, as the article clearly demonstrates.
  
  https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/bbcs-disinformation-queen-shoots-herself-in-both-feet/
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:56am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Today in the US it is June 14th.
Look at the size of this young man. Look at the hairdo!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/melania-and-barron-leave-trump-tower-to-travel-to-bedminster-on-donalds-77th-birthday/ar-AA1cyPBL
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June 15, 2023 10:10am
- rouppe
  
  Spitting image of a young Donald Trump
  
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  June 15, 2023 12:56pm
- mawm
  
  Melania is a stunning woman …. whatever that may be.
  
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  June 15, 2023 3:56pm
Fuzzysnuggleduck

My son is studying as a good high school and it and he are far more dedicated to studying and excellence than I ever was.
He and another student were comparing examination questions for BIOLOGY which were held at different times – they have spotted that questions around cell structure were dropped in favour of a question around “What are some ways that the mauri of a river might be restored?”

He is doing advanced NCEA science, and students are being questioned about mauri{life force}!!
It is about as credible as study in how The Force is caused by Midiclorians!

This is some of that ‘inward thinking’ that Luxon may have been talking about.
Our education system will become a joke to foreign students, if this is what scientist and engineers (or medical staff) etc. are learning.
The equating of matauranga Maori as being science was not just philosophical, or patronising rubbish – it is being applied literally by fanatics in out schools!
I am going to seek to get the images for comparison, and send to some MPs.

Luckily these school kids, or at least the group my son is with, can roll their eyes at this – just like the adults. But they will of course answer as the system expects them to; whatever the correct answer is to mumbo jumbo.
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June 15, 2023 10:13am
- I remember when
  
  May The Force be with you.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:40am
- Burtland
  
  training kids to tell people what they want to hear undermines everything – its training them to lie – you end up with nobody knowing what to believe
  
  Ive worked with this nutcase generation – its a nightmare
  in a line of authority they tell people what they want to hear,
  in their day to day work they do what they thinks right
  
  any wonder they find it stressful working – its just part of the wellness epidemic
  
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  June 15, 2023 11:24am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Yep, a mate of mine in the public service in a management role told me that they even have charts on the wall with phases of the moon, under Te Ao Maori guidance, so they know what are good dates to make decisions or arrange meetings.
    He said it is not worth your career to stick your neck out.
    
    Public service and academia need a big broom to sweep through.
    I do speak out or feed back in my own work place and to the schools when it is merited, but even long ago at Uni – when things were not this mad – a friend of mine said it is always easier to stand and applaud with the rest.
    
    We need more people like the little boy in ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes’ and call out the BS.
    That is not quite the same thing as ‘playing to the centre’ in politics, as our centre in NZ is currently much like what Luxon was caught saying via a hot mic in a candid moment. Some of his best words to date.
    
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    June 15, 2023 1:25pm
    - Burtland
      
      my experience is in the private sector – its well ingrained there. If you employ the nutcase generation you have to follow their rules – if it ended with just a free lunch it would be fine, but thats just the beginning
      
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      June 15, 2023 1:56pm
- lifesgood
  
  When he was at university my son knew to write Pakeha with a small p, Maori with a capital M, women with a capital W and men with a small m. He passed all his subjects but laughed at the utter stupidity of it.
  
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  June 15, 2023 12:24pm
  - cmm
    
    What the hell is the point of passing, let alone doing, a course like that?
    
    These are courses that serve no useful purpose to the students who invest their time and money or the taxpayer that funds them.
    
    All it does is provides some useless woke activist a lecturing job, and increase the insanity in the world.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:58pm
  - kowtow
    
    The death of a drug addled thief in the USA , Fentanyl Floyd,a man with a criminal record for violence against a pregnant woman , was the excuse that many in the west’s te media pardy used to capitalise black , while white remained lower case.
    
    Strange world.
    
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    June 15, 2023 1:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
Timaru tonight, then Dunedin at the weekend. (two meetings)

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/tonight-in-timaru/
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June 15, 2023 10:18am
KH

Yes, we are a wet, negative and whiny nation.

Post Primary Teachers’ Association Otago regional chairwoman Amanda
Ellwood says

“This career isn’t a place for a mother, or anyone with a family.
…… It isn’t the place for someone who wants to … own a home
….. It’s a place for martyrs, and that is all the Government wants
us to be.”

In my view it’s all the fault of teachers as they run it, and they design it as they rise higher in the system. Then we hear the same from nurses, firefighters and junior doctors and other ‘civil servants’ – always at the time of pay negotiations. Teaching was once an honoured
profession, but they consistently shoot themselves in the foot with this
bullshit.

Time to lift their act, or get out of the way. Swap out of the winge and get it together. Our kids need better.

Having been in one of these professions it seems to me they are overpaid compared to the demands in the private sector. Demands there are
considerable.
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June 15, 2023 10:23am
- I remember when
  
  KH:
  These people should read “Stranger in the House,” by Julie Summers.
  It recounts stories about the return, or non-return, of members of the armed forces after the war.
  The experiences of wives, and children, especially those whose husbands were away for years, or those who married when their men returned, will help them put their troubles in perspective.
  More especially those who were long term prisoners in the the Japanese camps.
  
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  June 15, 2023 10:54am
Maggie Pie

A bestie tweets…..

Remember when Robbo told parliament that we’d avoided a recession?

Pants on fire!!

https://twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/1669107455966732288
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June 15, 2023 10:28am
- Matt Long
  
  It’s a badge of honour for a Labour government to plunge a country into recession, the really great ones do it in one term.
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

American paranoia. There was no gun.
https://rumble.com/v18c9ti-chaos-at-gun-control-march-after-someone-yells-gun.html
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June 15, 2023 10:46am
- Inandout
  
  SO, hark back to the insane covid lockdown days. If someone in a mall had yelled ‘unclean person’ and pointed to an unmasked human do you not think there would have been a stampede?
  
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  June 15, 2023 11:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    In Wellywood yes.
    
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    June 15, 2023 12:07pm
PeterB

We are in recession. Q1 GDP -0.1%.
THANK YOU ROBBO.
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June 15, 2023 10:58am
CoffeePod

Otago University are spiralling out of control and are close to becoming so politically correct they will offend themselves at every turn. The latest virtue signalling effort sees them engaging in series of cultural events to celebrate a staff member moving from one department to another. This involves all dept staff coming together to practise Waiata during work time. The icing on the cake – female staff having to sit behind their male counterparts during the ceremony. All this for an internal transfer.
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June 15, 2023 11:30am
- cmm
  
  While Otago focus on this shit they are ignoring the fact they are losing what matters: bums on seats.
  
  If you’re losing students then you are becoming irrelevant.
  
  Meanwhile Canterbury campus is busting at the seams…
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:01pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘female staff having to sit behind their male counterparts during the ceremony. ‘
  
  Wow , the regression from pride in Ethel Benjamin’s achievements to this is stunning but very instructive.
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:11pm
Don Beckett

Rubbish. Biden has virtually no support or agreement from the Catholic people in the USA. He is criticised as a CINO – Catholic in Name Only. There are many so called Catholics in that camp – Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry just to name a couple more.
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June 15, 2023 11:58am
- MCōs
  
  Who’s to judge? You?
  My wife is Buddhist 24/7 She tries to live her life without a bad bone in her body according to to her beliefs
  Do these American politicians do that? Or only when convenient ?
  
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  June 15, 2023 5:59pm
- RichardX
  
  I always find it amusing when the religious use the “no true Scotsman” fallacy.
  
  Maybe the Catholic Church should treat Biden the same way they treated Hitler.
  Oh wait…they are.
  
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  June 15, 2023 6:14pm
  - Mike
    
    There are commenters on Kiwiblog who don’t think the pope is a proper catholic,
    
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    June 15, 2023 6:50pm
Tony Stuart

So we are officially in recession.

Then a thought occurred to me; just four weeks ago, on Budget Day, Grant Robertson said that Treasury forecasts said we had avoided a recession:

The Government has pushed back its expected return to surplus by another year after Cyclone Gabrielle and higher inflation blew its Budget forecasts off course.

But economists warn the rise in spending in Budget 2023 may put Grant Robertson on a collision course with the Reserve Bank and its plans for the OCR.

Finance Minister Grant Robertson on Thursday revealed the Treasury was no longer forecasting a recession, thanks to the rebuild and the arrival of more tourists.

The “strong economy” would weather the storm of a “challenging global environment” and the Treasury now expected inflation to drop back under 3% late next year, he said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132052350/no-recession-but-warning-budget-2023-may-force-reserve-bank-to-push-back-harder-on-interest-rates

So much for Robertson’s “strong economy” and so much for the accuracy of Treasury’s forecasts. And with just 15 days to go in Q2 2023, the economy has hardly improved in the last three months. The announcement of GDP growth for the June quarter is scheduled for 21 September 2023, just eleven days before advance voting opens on Monday 2nd October.

Add to this the less-than-glowing IMF report released yesterday – https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300905413/inflation-will-remain-high-for-some-time-and-interest-rate-increases-cant-be-ruled-out-imf-warns – and it’s no wonder that there’s speculation about Grant Robertson’s political future.
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June 15, 2023 12:18pm
- mogg
  
  Thank you Robbo for bringing us STAGFLATION (Low/no growth with high inflation). His borrow and spend is not working, it has only brought us mortgage misery.
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:55pm
Maggie Pie

John Tamahere’s son-in-law Maori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi tells Hipkins and Luxon….. “To shut their mouths!”

https://twitter.com/NewshubPolitics/status/1669106968173379584

Well that’s lovely isn’t it? Obviously not a Kings Boy.
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June 15, 2023 12:19pm
- Swifty
  
  Bloody hell, Waititi really has benefitted from his appropriation of western bariatric surgery hasn’t he?
  
  I wonder if it might make him a bit more humble when next banging on about Maori health inequities?
  
  Yeah nah.
  
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  June 15, 2023 12:56pm
  - Dave
    
    To be fair, I’m sure the vision-enhancing technology he uses incorporates matauranga Māori, since it’s the coequal of Western science.
    
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    June 15, 2023 6:37pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I always love it when people post these ‘B4 & After’ photos 😀 😀 😀
  
  https://twitter.com/DavisAndrew88/status/1669135370821451779
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:10pm
- graham
  
  Getting a:
  
  “Hmm…this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.”
  
  Was it that embarrassing that it’s already been taken down?
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:47pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP! Taken down already.
    They obviously had the phone call.
    So much for freedom of the press…..
    
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    June 15, 2023 2:30pm
  - Ghost
    
    Article still up
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/rawiri-waititi-lashes-out-at-prime-minister-christopher-luxon-media-over-commentary-around-death-of-gang-leader.html
    
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    June 15, 2023 2:49pm
- Ehlana
  
  Hi Maggie, that link seems to have broken.
  
  The first I heard of this was Opotiki going into lockdown because a gang leader had died. In all the news I’ve seen, I haven’t heard one comment from any senior member of the gang saying “We’re here to mourn our guy. The public can go about their lives as normal. We will ensure our members behave appropriately.”
  If they want to be treated like “normal” members of the community, they need to start acting like it. Britain managed to mourn its Queen without “heightened tensions” and closed schools.
  
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  June 15, 2023 1:55pm
  - mogg
    
    From Opotiki Tourism:
    “Please come back to Opotiki we were not shooting at you”
    
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    June 15, 2023 2:06pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Screenshot is all that remains….
    
    https://twitter.com/PronouncedHare/status/1669171555895775232
    
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    June 15, 2023 2:46pm
plc

Are Gareth Hughes’ “citizen assemblies”, a polite way of saying “people’s soviets”?
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June 15, 2023 12:37pm
Herodotus

The Best 30-Minute Explanation of Marxism I Have Ever Heard
Compares Wokeness with Socialism – Beware it makes you think what is happening today !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6rk1mYiOAw
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June 15, 2023 1:33pm
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  30 minutes? No thanks.
  Here’s the 22 second version:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLdZtU-RhPI
  
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  June 15, 2023 5:47pm
Maggie Pie

Hmmm….

Remember the ‘2023 Auckland-Gay-Pride-Parade’ along Ponsonby Rd?

https://twitter.com/AmbassadeChine/status/1667844441078472704
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June 15, 2023 2:24pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  But can they fight or are they just “comfort” for the boys??
  
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  June 15, 2023 5:35pm
- Ghost
  
  Chinese version of attack of the clones?
  
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  June 15, 2023 5:42pm
Ghost

Hmmm, time will tell if it is genuine or not. Video proclaiming hackers will attack the European banking system.

https://twitter.com/vxunderground/status/1669053086495563777
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June 15, 2023 3:37pm
Bobba Fret

Sometimes justice (or karma) actually happens quite swiftly!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300906610/stolen-motorbike-rider-refuses-to-stop-for-police-crashes-into-parked-car
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June 15, 2023 4:44pm
- Prince
  
  Must be time to stop cars parking there before some poor motorbike thief is killed.
  
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  June 15, 2023 5:12pm
Ra Henare

MSM headline.
How stupid can they be!!!!!!
The Kremlin wont give a shit.

Kremlin will be ‘taking an interest’ in pro-Russia RNZ story edits, international relations expert Robert Patman believes

But like Professor Baker and the Covid crap, they ask Patman for an opinion!!!
Both are dipstick academics.!!

Patman, like Baker is pumping out the company line, I suspect they both love seeing themselves on the Media.

Humph
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June 15, 2023 5:03pm
- Mike
  
  RNZ is the Kremlin’s prime objective after the Wagner Group invades Rēkohu.
  
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  June 15, 2023 6:55pm
Swifty

A question for Barnacle Bill.

Is David Clark a money-hungry prick just like Stephen Joyce?

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/david-clark-takes-otago-university-role

Or is Bill’s opprobrium reserved for righty MPs only? Or just for those who contract rather than become permanent staff?
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June 15, 2023 5:31pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Keep the snout in the trough.
  
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  June 15, 2023 7:09pm
  - Swifty
    
    Isn’t it interesting that the Otago Registrar role description states that applicants ‘will need to have’ a tertiary qualification in Law and “Significant experience and/or broad legal knowledge (corporate, commercial litigations, public, property.”
    
    https://www.ilanz.org/jobs/registrargeneral-counsel/
    
    Putting aside the ‘significant legal
    Knowledge and/or experience’ I didn’t know Clark had a law degree and his various online biographies make no mention of him having one, but do mention his philosophy and theology studies.
    
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Clark_(New_Zealand_politician)
    
    This isn’t another Labour Party fit up like the Louisa Wall role is it?
    
    Please tell me it’s not.
    
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    June 15, 2023 8:01pm
Swifty

A US teacher briefly, calmly and clearly sums up the trans debate:

https://fb.watch/lanOc-fqV8/?mibextid=v7YzmG
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June 15, 2023 5:47pm
Swifty

Rawiri Waititi showing himself a fool once again:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/132334475/te-pti-mori-coleaders-slam-political-reaction-to-mongrel-mob-presidents-tangi

I really don’t know what world Waititi lives in, or what planet he thinks he’s on, but here in NZ we speak whatever is on our minds. For goodness sake, Waititi does it all the time.

Just as importantly, he does it all the time about things he clearly knows nothing about. Like how wealth gets created. How the country pays its way. How people become employed. What racial discrimination is and how harmful it is. Why it’s a bad thing to have race-based policies etc.

If Waititi followed the advice he has so tenderly given Luxon and Hipkins today, to keep quiet about things they know nothing about, New Zealanders would be far better off.

And Maori, in particular, would be exceedingly better off.
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June 15, 2023 6:17pm
Swifty

Rawiri Waititi has lost a tremendous amount of weight subsequent to his recent stomach-stapling:

https://www.teaomaori.news/waititi-opens-on-stomach-staple

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/06/15/pm-luxon-should-shut-their-mouths-on-opotiki-waititi/

I’m just quite surprised that he gave into and trusted our racist health system for his remedy and wonder why he didn’t choose traditional Maori treatments and knowledge we hear about so much from him and his party?

He’s not a hypocrite is he? Surely not.
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June 15, 2023 6:24pm
Dougal10

The announcement of more doctors in the future is rubbish. Verrall has said we need more PI and Maori doctors so these will be race based increases which have a very high no completion of degree rate. Yet again just more virtue signaling from a failure of a minister.
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