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Steve Otto(North Shore)

Got any shares for sale?
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June 8, 2023 8:00am
- G152
  
  The origional fly by night
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:11am
- hullkiwi
  
  I don’t know. Its difficult to sell shares and they may not be in my name.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:16am
  - Paulus
    
    One tephone call would sell them.
    
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    June 8, 2023 1:52pm
- kowtow
  
  Ask me again and again and again……..
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:17am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Steve-
  Can’t remember.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    But you have been asked 12 times!
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:36am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      But I’m very busy ordering more road cones….(and how’s the market doing, by the way?)
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:39am
      - RoboRob
        
        Would love to own shares in whoever makes the road cones 🙂
        
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        June 8, 2023 9:10am
    - Gravelroad
      
      @Steve-
      Don’t you know who I am?
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:40am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw
        
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        June 8, 2023 8:47am
      - I remember when
        
        Well he was someone who was part of a very small group considered as possible PM replacements.
        Was, seems a long time ago.
        
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        June 8, 2023 9:11am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Let’s hope he never gets asked to do anything important.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Important, like fix a [Mod – clean your language up] pothole?
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:51am
  - Paulus
    
    He can go back to the Unions of course.
    
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    June 8, 2023 1:53pm
kiwikidsnz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300899281/national-campaigns-for-new-infrastructure-agency-and-value-capture-taxes

National has listed value capture charging as an election campaign promise.

If they accept the principle that public investment results in private profit windfalls that should be taxed then they need to consider the obverse.

Turning the coin on a value capture tax to the Govts actions resulting in private devaluation it should be possible to then raise a damages compensation claim against the Govt, councils & Housing NZ for your neighbourhoods property values dropping substantially because state housing is secretly approved to be built in it without consultation and consideration ?

The existing homeowners originally paid a premium for their neighbourhood property & associated amenity value & will logically suffer a significant financial loss as a result.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/491492/neighbours-feel-caught-out-by-kainga-ora-s-new-housing-developments
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June 8, 2023 8:01am
- Mark Hanley
  
  National’s 30 year infrastructure strategy is brilliant.
  
  1. Great Infrastructures delivers prosperity.
  
  2. Labour can’t reverse infrastructure when they come into power.
  
  3. Opposition parties will be able to hold Labour to account when they halt infrastructure investment to spend on frivolous projects which are ripe for corruption.
  
  National’s plan….
  National Infrastructure Agency to coordinate public infrastructure investment – less reliance om the useless public sector!
  
  Second, we will be making use of innovative funding and financing tools to boost investment in infrastructure.
  
  Third, we will develop National City and Regional Deals, so that central government can partner with local government to create long-term pipelines of regional projects.
  
  Fourth, we will create an infrastructure fast-track consents process to make it easier to build the infrastructure New Zealand needs for the future.
  
  Fifth, we will build a 30-year infrastructure pipeline to deliver long-term certainty, enable more effective planning, and reduce project costs.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:11am
  - trout
    
    Unfortunately a ‘National infrastructure Agency’ would evolve into just another self serving bureaucracy; money to burn on indulgent projects and little to show for it (cf Tansit NZ or AT). There is nostalgia for a return of the MOW; perhaps this is the reincarnation.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:13am
    - Mark Hanley
      
      Crikey trout, that’s a very cheery outlook you have there.
      
      What is your solution for:
      – lifting productivity?
      – increasing wealth?
      – redistributing the enormous investment in nonproductive NZ housing to productive wealth generating assets?
      – implementing a policy which can’t be reversed by the next Labour government (you can’t undo a road)?
      – catering for the extra 100,000 people arriving this year to further clog our roads and hospitals?
      – making progress without reliance on NZ’s useless public sector whose main criteria for employees are: brown, non male, and gay
      
      instead of the traditional employee requirement of competence.
      
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      June 8, 2023 11:21am
      - mawm
        
        Obviously National thinks it is more bureaucracy and capital gains by another name applied to certain people who probably opposed a government project affecting them. These are sure to be big winners. //s
        
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        June 8, 2023 3:27pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        MAWN. What is Your solution for:
        – lifting productivity?
        – increasing wealth?
        – redistributing the enormous investment in nonproductive NZ housing to productive wealth generating assets?
        – implementing a policy which can’t be reversed by the next Labour government (you can’t undo a road)?
        – catering for the extra 100,000 people arriving this year to further clog our roads and hospitals?
        – making progress without reliance on NZ’s useless public sector whose main criteria for employees are: brown, non male, and gay
        
        instead of the traditional employee requirement of competence.
        
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        June 8, 2023 3:47pm
      - mawm
        
        Well mark – In any order – cheap power is a start so abandon the highly ruinous covid scam. Tell the UN to get stuffed as far as the migration compact is concerned. Stop paying useless drones to sit at home and smoke weed. Allow a fully capitalist system with minimal government interference and reduce taxes to about 25%. Stop providing lifelong housing to those who feel entitled to it. You cannot do anything that Labour cannot undo. Reduce the Public sector by introducing performance goals ….. and get rid of those who do not achieve them. Simple.
        
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        June 8, 2023 7:41pm
      - mawm
        
        Climate scam – not covid scam.
        
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        June 8, 2023 8:35pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        MAWN. Your suggestions align very closely with National policies… Maybe it is time for you to shift allegiance.
        
        cheap power is a start so abandon the highly ruinous climate scam.
        ** Electrify NZ The next National Government will cut red tape to drive a surge of investment in renewable electricity generation so New Zealand can double its supply of affordable, clean energy and become a lower emissions economy.
        NB: Hydro is cheap, clean renewable energy.
        
        – Tell the UN to get stuffed as far as the migration compact is concerned.
        ** National Party leader Simon Bridges said if his party was in government, it would pull out of the compact because of its potential to restrict New Zealand’s ability to set its own migration and foreign policy.
        
        – Stop paying useless drones to sit at home and smoke weed.
        ** National’s policy: Sanctions and incentives
        Young Jobseekers who fail to undertake agreed activities in their plan will face sanctions from MSD, such as money management or benefit reductions. To assist community providers in reducing long-term benefit dependency, National will also introduce a bonus payment of $1000 for under 25-year-olds who have been on the Jobseeker benefit for longer than a year, who find work and remain off benefit for 12 months.
        
        – Allow a fully capitalist system with minimal government interference and reduce taxes to about 25%.
        ** National will be Delivering tax relief
        More taxes and more spending leave everyone worse off. Unlike Labour, National believes Kiwis should keep more of what they earn.
        
        – Stop providing lifelong housing to those who feel entitled to it.
        ** National: Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Act 2013. The ethos behind this policy was that social housing should be available for those in highest need, for the duration of that need. This superseded the earlier ‘state home for life’ policy introduced from around the 1950s.
        The reviewable tenancies process was designed to assess existing tenancies against criteria relating to affordability, accessibility and sustainability, and to shift households deemed ineligible for social housing into private housing, with reviews to occur at least every 3 years.
        
        – You cannot do anything that Labour cannot undo.
        ** Labour haven’t ripped up the roads of National significance, the fibre cable roll out, and the rail trails National built. In fact built infrastructure is the only thing Labour can’t tear down.
        
        – Reduce the Public sector by introducing performance goals ….. and get rid of those who do not achieve them. Simple.
        ** The National-led Government has set 10 challenging results for the public sector to achieve over the next five years. Ministers and a public sector chief executive have been appointed to lead each result and will be accountable for demonstrating real progress against his or her result.
        
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        June 9, 2023 6:28am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Not necessarily, if zNats shut down or shrink some of those bureaucratic shit hokes, then they could use staff to get this done. Likewise this could be done with a handful of people as opposed to the way labour does it snd adds 1000s of bludgers
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:45pm
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      Just watch Utopia! A worked example.
      
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      June 8, 2023 2:15pm
  - kowtow
    
    Just as long as any “consultations” are based on legitimate grounds such as local residency , citizenship etc and not spurious identity politics.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:17am
  - Drone
    
    Remember @Mark the roads of National Significance and the wholesale cancellation and reduction. Nothing is beyond cancellation where a Labour government are concerned..
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:27am
    - Mark Hanley
      
      Here are a couple of examples of National generated and Labour continued / finished roading projects…. Waikato expressway, Tauranga port connections, transmission gully.
      
      Nothing is full proof but with a well publicized list of necessary infrastructure it is easier for the opposition to hold the next Labour government to account.
      
      I’m sure KBers remember Labour’s call for shovel ready infrastructure projects when the covid scam began. Who can name a shovel ‘ready project which was actually started/completed?
      
      A 30 year infrastructure list provides the projects to invest in when the next downturn begins and the government has to inject money and jobs into the economy. Infrastructure generates the cash required to pay back loans.
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:06pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They halted the Tauranga road half way and created a dangerous merging spot
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:41pm
  - The Redbaiter
    
    Mark Hanley- “National’s 30 year infrastructure strategy is brilliant.”
    
    Its farcical nonsense.
    
    Ever seen the Australian satirical TV show “Utopia”? You’ve just copied its script almost to the word.
    
    National talk big about “outcomes” but have not provided one iota of detail on how they are propose to deal with the entrenched left wing tilt of so many govt departments, and here they are suggesting another one that will eventually become the same as all of the others. A refuge for over paid no-talent socialists (and spending 40% of its time on the treaty myth).
    
    They’re hopeless.
    
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    June 8, 2023 12:06pm
    - Mark Hanley
      
      Crikey Red baiter, that’s a very cheery outlook you have there.
      
      Which party do you support and what is their solution for and experience in providing the infrastructure NZ so desperately needs to halt our slide into 3rd world status?
      
      What is your solution for:
      – lifting productivity?
      – increasing wealth?
      – redistributing the enormous investment in nonproductive NZ housing to productive wealth generating assets?
      – implementing a policy which can’t be reversed by the next Labour government (you can’t undo a road)?
      – catering for the extra 100,000 people arriving this year to further clog our roads and hospitals?
      – making progress without reliance on NZ’s useless public sector whose main criteria for employees are: brown, non male, and gay instead of the traditional employee requirement of competence.
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:20pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Haha
        
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        June 8, 2023 12:47pm
      - The Redbaiter
        
        National can’t fix NZ because over the last four or five decades they have enabled or even assisted Labour in embedding an irreversible socialist political/ economic system in NZ.
        
        They let all the opportunities for real change slip by and now it is too late. Everything Luxon says is just hot air. There will be no “outcomes” and his emphasis on achieving them is the blunder that will in future allow the subversive media to hang him politically.
        
        Furthermore his commitment to Net Carbon Zero if not a blatant lie will confound any small chance that things may improve. If he sincerely thinks the Kyoto targets can be met he needs to explain how in precise detail, because so much of our economic and social well being depends upon it.
        
        So far there is nothing but promises to release policy soon. When treasury says it is almost certain that as a condition of Kyoto NZ will be penalised by having to buy billions of dollars ($12-30 billion latest estimates) of fake “carbon credits”.
        
        And here we are getting all het up over Wood’s $13000 worth of airport shares.
        
        What an abject farce. NZ is paying the price for six decades of conniving at communist subversion, and voters (Labour and National) are reaping what they have sowed.
        
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        June 8, 2023 12:49pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Redbaiter, are you another of Matt Long’s monikers?
        
        Personal and unsubstantiated abuse with no solutions and no alternative. Eerily similar to the Labour Party’s modus operandi.
        
        Come on Redbaiter…. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!
        
        What party do you support? Why?
        What is your preferred party and party leader’s solution for and experience in providing the infrastructure NZ so desperately needs to halt our slide into 3rd world status?
        
        What is your solution for:
        – lifting productivity?
        – increasing wealth?
        – redistributing the enormous investment in nonproductive NZ housing to productive wealth generating assets?
        – implementing a policy which can’t be reversed by the next Labour government (you can’t undo a road)?
        – catering for the extra 100,000 people arriving this year to further clog our roads and hospitals?
        – making progress without reliance on NZ’s useless public sector whose main criteria for employees are: brown, non male, and gay instead of the traditional employee requirement of competence.
        
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        June 8, 2023 1:28pm
      - Tom Hunter
        
        Redbaiter, are you another of Matt Long’s monikers?
        
        I have it on good authority that Redbaiter is a secret Labour plant here at KB, having first been cleverly infiltrated into the UseNet community in the 1990’s by Labour’s SPECOP team.
        
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        June 8, 2023 9:27pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I was hoping you would babble on about bureaucracy. Oh wait, ACT want a full blown bureaucracy to cut red tape, talk about satirical bullshit.
      
      I think I will stick to Nats simply cutting the red tape.
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:49pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        Since when has National cut red tape, axed bloated agencies or fired useless bureaucrats? That’s some “satirical bullshit” right there.
        
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        June 8, 2023 3:32pm
  - gtdriver
    
    Any new plans to get on with major infrastructure will be dragged down by the usual suspects – climate alarmists & Iwi/Maori involvement. If they can short circuit those two, then just maybe…
    
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    June 8, 2023 7:20pm
- RoboRob
  
  Well. Thats the nail in the Nationals coffin for me.
  
  A) Its a stupid idea
  B) So national buys into the whole, make NZ better with more Taxes and complexity, concept too.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:14am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    So the expressway north of Auckland is owned by a foreign entity, you pay a minimal fee to use that road, when we did it the price was $2.60, it’s a great road, it takes lots of time of the trip, so to stay with Nats you would prefer the status quo snd go the extra 30 minutes snd the added cost of fuel right?
    
    So who you hoing yo vote for? Have yo be Labour, because you won’t want to vote for ACT as they will be propping up Nats.
    
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    June 8, 2023 12:53pm
    - RoboRob
      
      Not sure what your talking about my G. I am referring to National wanting to charge people a tax on the perceived gain in value of an asset (house) casused by the government doing something said person had no control over.
      
      eg. Are you happy to pay the govt a $3000 becuase they build a cycle lane outside your house and say that the value of your house has gone up $10,000 becuase of it?
      
      I guess by the downvotes my orginal issue wasn’t clear. Happy for infrastructure, not happy for capital value gain taxes.
      
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      June 8, 2023 2:12pm
- Colville
  
  kknz
  
  A stroke of a pen from a Council officer can increase a property by many millions of dollars…to me its obvious that some of that should be raked back for public benefit.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:06am
  - Matt Long
    
    Well it is, if the value of a property increases relative to other properties the owner pays more property tax.
    Great to see all the proponents of new envy taxes here.
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:35am
    - Matt Long
      
      Dear Moderator, Hanley has been carrying out a campaign of harassment and lies against me, if you won’t moderate his lies as least allow me the right of reply, or you degrade the blog to the level of Stuff.
      
      [ Mod – I’m pretty sure you can actually reply without the sort of comments you were making that actually do degrade this blog]
      
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      December 8, 2022 4:15pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS MATT.
        
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        June 8, 2023 5:10pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        NOW HOW ABOUT SOME ANSWERS?
        
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        June 8, 2023 5:17pm
    - Mark Hanley
      
      Hello Matt, you disappeared for a while (or more likely used one of your other monikers).
      
      If (as you claim) your beef is with the covid response, when will we see you criticize the perpetrators of the COVID scam?
      
      Or would that be biting the hand that feeds you?
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:10pm
      - Matt Long
        
        [Mod – deleted, stop it now]
        
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        December 8, 2022 1:29pm
      - Matt Long
        
        [Mod – deleted]
        
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        December 8, 2022 2:26pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Once again Matt uses the old Labour Party technique of unsubstantiated personal abuse rather than taking the opportunity to demonstrate he actually has something useful to add to the KB conversation.
        
        Why are you afraid of answering the questions Matt?
        
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        June 8, 2023 1:37pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Answer the questions Matt.
        
        Hipkins tried to forgive Wood so I’m sure he’ll forgive you.
        
        Although you might be in a bit of hotwater for your slurs against people you accuse of being gay. You certainly won’t get a job in the public service.
        
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        June 8, 2023 3:22pm
  - mawm
    
    Colville – that is precisely what councils have been doing year after year to increase the amount of money they rake in and claiming they have “only” increased rates by a certain percentage.
    
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    June 8, 2023 3:38pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Has Auckland snd Wellington not already got value capture taxes now? This means the value of you house if you then have great rapid transport virtually at your gate, where st present you have to drive to the train or what ever it is, motorway, bus lane, I thought these taxes had been accepted already
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:40pm
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    You may very well think that…
    
    However my point is that if the Govt is going to tax such Govt initiated “gains” then they should apply the same principle to Govt initiated losses.
    
    Otherwise the Govt is just another hypocrite.
    
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    June 8, 2023 4:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Huge increase in meth seizures but it’s OK, it is in R. T. Rower, not New Zealand.
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June 8, 2023 8:04am
- Biscuit
  
  Steve, did you see the comparison between Meth prices overseas and the horrendous-by-comparson ones that the New Zealand consumer are paying?
  
  Whoever is the Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister needs to immediately call out the blatant price-gouging.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I don’t follow it, I am not a customer or user.
    Tell me. I have no idea of this.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:19am
    - Biscuit
      
      Not a customer either, Steve – I get through life on what my partner refers to as ‘weapons-grade, natural testosterone’ – but the Head of National Organised Crime unit said recently that:
      ‘Our people pay somewhere around 80 to 100 dollars a point, around $400 a gram roughly. In the United States it’s five dollars a point.’
      
      That nice caring-for-the-little-people Labour Government needs to do another shaming exercise along the lines of that one David Clark ran, SO successfully, against the Supermarkets…
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:42am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        My theory with drugs is it is paid for overseas with jewelry. The number of ram raids done and the amount stolen does not line up with the jewelry market in NZ.
        It is mailed overseas and the drugs come in by return mail.
        Customs would not have a clue what is going on.
        
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        June 8, 2023 8:57am
  - pdm
    
    Market forces Biscuit, market forces.
    
    Surely you know that commerce works on `willing buyer/willing seller.’
    
    Why should meth be any different?
    
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    June 8, 2023 9:35am
  - Dave
    
    Not just call it out, but set up our very own KiwiGangs – Meth Division to force prices down; a snappier name would be Meths Mob Aotearoa. I’m surprised the Government hasn’t proposed it already.
    
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    June 8, 2023 9:41am
    - sirknz
      
      The Meth Olympics would be a doozy though…
      
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      June 8, 2023 2:46pm
Maggie Pie

RULES IS RULES.

Just saying.
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June 8, 2023 8:08am
- igm
  
  Not applicable to left-wing sleeze.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:10am
- Simon
  
  Rules? What about when National wiped its arse with the Bill of Rights?
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:12am
- Biscuit
  
  But, but, it was ON THE LINE,. Maggie!
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:13am
artemisia

Otago Uni seems to be blaming covid for it getting enrolment numbers very wrong, even though covid apparently did not impact 2021 and 2022 enrolments. Yes other causes are included in the forecasting fail, but even some of them are at least partly related to covid. Plus taxpayer funding not keeping up with inflation.

Not their fault then. More money from taxpayers required.

Sorry no sympathy. Yes big dollars involved but the amount pales into insignificance alongside the massive financial and other impacts of covid on individuals, households and businesses.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/132253612/a-perfect-storm-inside-the-decline-in-student-numbers-at-the-university-of-otago
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June 8, 2023 8:10am
- trout
  
  Perhaps Otago Uni should self reflect and understand that their customers (students) do not identify with the woke philosophy at an institution that has sacrificed academic rigour favour of promoting ‘equity’ and are choosing to go elsewhere for their education.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:20am
  - GJM
    
    All businesses need to understand their customers. How many students at Otago uni are white, cis males? The ones they blatantly discriminate against and loudly yell are guilty of everything?
    As Budweiser, Gillette and others can tell you, declaring war on your customers does not end well for them.
    
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    June 8, 2023 7:15pm
- Dougal10
  
  If they shut their wellington campus with all its govt and media advisors getting the dcm it would save them a bundle
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:49am
- miltonF
  
  I personally think they’ve shot themselves in the foot by parroting the govt’s false narratives around everything Covid. The “science” they put out was counter to historical well evidenced norms. Their advice was also morally repugnant. Mr Michael “don’t invite the unvaxxed to your Christmas functions” Baker. It’s not a good look for an institution which is supposed to honourable and truthful, to throw everything in the bin for ideological reasons and money.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:56am
Chuck Bird

The small number of shares Wood owns should not be an excuse for not selling his shares. How can you have a rule that you cannot have shares above a certain number or value if there is or appears to be a conflict of interest? The rule has to be simple. No share if there appears to be a conflict of interest.
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June 8, 2023 8:10am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Precisely Chuck. A conflict of interest is a conflict of interest irrespective of the value. What will sink Wood though is the TWELVE warnings he got from the Cabinet Office between November 2017 and March 2023, which he ignored.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:12am
  - Simon
    
    Conflict of interest. Just like Medsafe giving emergency approval of the unsafe useless covid jaxxs and then monitoring and assessing the jaxx injuries.
    
    Wood and his airport shares is a core issue for Clown World. Clown away.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:19am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    First it was six times told. The bullshit is thick around Wood and Labour.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:24am
    - rockape
      
      The OIA questions will make for interesting reading. Did he lie to the Cabinet office ?
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:35am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        That’s what I am thinking. Get that OIA done pronto.
        
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        June 8, 2023 8:40am
  - Paulus
    
    Is it correct that his wife as an Auckland Councillor also has shares in the Airport ?
    Umm, no conflict as she only has a few perhaps.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:25am
    - Phronesis
      
      The declaration of the wife can be found here: https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/ElectedMemberDeclaration/2022-register-julie-fairey-update-6-june-2023.pdf
      
      It states that Wood owns the Airport shares personally. I expect the confusion is that the JM Fairey Family Trust directly holds a large number of shares as well.
      
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      June 8, 2023 9:59am
      - Swifty
        
        Right little capitalists aren’t they?
        
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        June 8, 2023 10:12am
      - Paul Marsden
        
        Under the Property (Relationships) Act 1976 they arguably own all the shares equally.
        
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        June 8, 2023 11:19am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    So why’s the good Associate Professor Duncan of Massey University running about saying there’s nothing to see here?
    
    (He’s desperately trying to use the small number and value of shares defense)
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:20am
  - jon
    
    Tony it may have been asked on Kiwiblog earlier but why the hell didnt the Cabinet office, after fruitless efforts to have Wood comply with their instruction to sell the shares, just refer the matter to the dept of the PM for action?
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:26am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    That is not actually the law. The size of the interest has to be large enough to be seen as being able to influence the decisions of the decision maker. There will be differing views as to what is such an interest. $1,000 worth of share definitely would not be, but $13,000 might be.
    In this instance the main problem is the failure to disclose. Also holding on to the shares when advised to sell them.
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:02am
  - Paulus
    
    Who leaked “12 times” from Cabinet Office ?
    
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    June 8, 2023 2:01pm
    - Local Miller
      
      Chippy! Nicola Willis had a written question for him that was too precise for him to dodge.
      
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      June 8, 2023 4:48pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  It’s the non disclosure version of being only a little bit pregnant.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:31am
- Piticus
  
  The key to me is that Wood declined the North Shore application for expansion for ‘many good reasons’ whilst holding undisclosed shareholding in Auckland Airport – Auckland Airports result would have been negatively impacted by an approval for North Shore – the quantum of shares is irrelevant. This moves it from an oversight to very very dodgy. Whilst I can accept SOME lack of ability from a cabinet minister this lack of integrity is a whole different story !
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:13am
- mogg
  
  It’s not the shares or the value, it’s the way they have
  made a complete shambles of dealing with what should be a straight forward issue. A sense of lying now permeates everything we are hearing from Labour and it comes right from the top with Ardern and Hipkins being the worst offenders. The original
  shares were probably not a sackable offence, but the
  circus that it nas now become Wood should be a ‘gone goose’.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:54am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He bought 13000 in the 90s those shares will be worth 10 fold
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:55pm
  - Ghost
    
    No, he owns 1500 shares valued at around $13,000
    
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    June 8, 2023 1:04pm
    - Paulus
      
      And his wife’s family Fairey Trust own how many ?
      She is an Auckland Councillor remember – and wears the pants.
      
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      June 8, 2023 2:02pm
      - Ghost
        
        According to her declaration, none
        
        https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/ElectedMemberDeclaration/julie-fairey-update-6-june-2023.pdf
        
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        June 8, 2023 3:17pm
Lipo

With the Michael Wood affair
Surely the biggest story that everyone is missing is –
How did the issue get in the public domain?
Who leaked the story to the media?
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June 8, 2023 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who wants Wood out of the road so they can unbalance Chippie?
  I have a fair idea. This person would never have challenged Jaspinda, but there is a new deck of cards now.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:52am
- Ruahine
  
  Lipo.
  You are onto it.
  Why have the State Funded Media been allowed to be let loose on this story?
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:20am
- Miritu
  
  The Wood saga is a useful distraction that’s working very well, especially here at Kiwiblog… meanwhile:
  – WHO Pandemic Treaty
  – DIA Online Censorship Plan https://www.fsu.nz/news
  – Chaos in public health system
  https://nzdsos.com/2022/10/05/elephant-in-hospital-room/
  – covid response cover-ups
  amongst others
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:51pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The Hearald will have dug this up
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:56pm
Tony Stuart

There’s no downside for National & Act with the Michael Wood saga. If Hipkins sacks Wood, Labour’s Cabinet is further weakened and it may fracture. If he doesn’t, he’ll open himself to criticism for not enforcing standards for his Ministers. Neither is likely to appeal to voters.

And have you ever seen a Prime Minister look as defeated as Chris Hipkins looked during Question Time yesterday?

https://vimeo.com/833888319
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June 8, 2023 8:14am
- hullkiwi
  
  There is no downside with the govt shambles for National/Act.
  
  To paraphrase Peter Dunne, Chippie is not a leader, he is too busy being a firefighter who is putting out fires in his own backyard.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:23am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Chippie in happier days with trans bestie Shaneel…..
  
  https://instagram.com/p/CprhFgygicR/
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:24am
  - Scott
    
    We notice that Chris Hipkins lets a reporter know that he is not concerned about drag Queens reading stories to children?
    
    Drag Queens are highly sexualised individuals. Why would you select them to read to children? What is the positive goal that you have in mind?
    
    But it seems that liberals and radicals want to make this a hill to die on. I can’t find this practice any different to grooming? Am I missing something?
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:38am
    - lifesgood
      
      What an absolute disgrace. Shamefully promoting the sexualisation of young children, it should be a jailable offence.
      
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      June 8, 2023 2:27pm
    - sirknz
      
      I always ask the people who are OK with the idea of kids attending Drag Queen Story Hour if they would be happy with their kids going to ‘Stripper story Hour’, or ‘Swinger Club Story Hour’, or ‘Sex Worker Story Hour’, or even a ‘Porn Star Story Hour’.
      
      Likewise to those who are happy to take their kids to a pride parade if they would also be happy to take their kids to a strip club or let them access internet porn with no restrictions.
      
      They usually can’t answer without looking like a hypocrite or a bad parent.
      
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      June 8, 2023 2:55pm
- emmess
  
  He’s like a naughty little school boy
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I remember those little shits from Primary School. The whole class would be kept in because some little shit would not own up to doing something wrong.
    Collective punishment.
    
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    June 8, 2023 9:56am
  - Paulus
    
    The women voters from the polls appear still to like him as he appears still to be a little school boy that hey can cuddle.
    He may even grow up despite having children himself.
    
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    June 8, 2023 2:11pm
- Gravelroad
  
  @ TS –
  The youngish woman sitting behind him looked just vacant.
  Is she a cabinet minister too?
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:24am
  - Inandout
    
    Gravel, that emotionless face is standard for anyone shown behind a politician. Watch any western leaders speaking and the throng behind are deadpan.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:30am
    - rouppe
      
      Though their heads relentlessly bobble up and down
      
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      June 8, 2023 10:04am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      What about the nodding clowns?
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:59pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    That’s List MP Camilla Belich, who tried and failed to win the nomination for Ardern’s Mt Albert seat. Her partner is Andrew Kirton, former general secretary of the Labour Party and now Chief of Staff for Chris Hipkins. She is a Labour Party Whip
    
    I can’t imagine their family fireside chats are filled with great optimism just at the moment as they both see their prospects beyond October slipping away…
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:31am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      However, a possible rival for leadership of the Labour Party has fallen by the wayside.
      I wouldn’t give up on Camilla just yet.
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:37am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        There is someone else with bigger cohones waiting for a chance. Already an accomplished liar. I’m sure you know who.
        
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        June 8, 2023 10:00am
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      Gen Sec of the Labour Party at the time of the Youth Camp.
      
      Moved to a Govt Relations job at Air NZ, then into lobbying.
      
      Now CoS to Chippy.
      
      His missus thought she was a ring in for the Mt Albert seat but lost out.
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:54am
    - alex Masterley
      
      Tony, Ms Belich is now the Labour candidate for Epsom.
      
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      June 8, 2023 9:13am
      - hullkiwi
        
        That means no safe seat for you for a minimum of another 2 elections from 2023!
        
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        June 8, 2023 9:53am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Hahahshshaha
        
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        June 8, 2023 1:00pm
    - alloytoo
      
      There seems to be some inbreeding here, how many of the current MPs are 2nd generation
      
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      June 8, 2023 11:21am
    - The Redbaiter
      
      …and Andrew Kirton was hired by Christopher Luxon as head of govt affairs at Air NZ.
      
      (Kirton replaced Andrew Small, who is married to Nicola Willis. )
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:20pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        [Mod – slow down, read what you write before posting it and fix any mistakes because some of your posts make no sense and will just be deleted]
        
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        June 8, 2023 1:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She is concentrating hard – a junior learning how to lie and get away with it.
    She should know, lying is a pre-requisite to joining Labour.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:42am
- Paulus
  
  No, no, no, easy, Chippie will take over all the portfolios as he has experience in stuffing most if not all.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:26am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Yes. When he was inteviewed by Newshub aftewards.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/opposition-calls-for-chris-hipkins-to-fire-michael-wood-altogether-over-shares-shambles.html
  
  The Pause of inner turmoil at 2 minutes and 20 seconds is gold!
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What he spluttered on was not even an answer to the question asked.
    ‘I have trusting confidence in Michael.’
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:10am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Just like when asked what a woman is, a stunned bloody mullet
    
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    June 8, 2023 1:03pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So written correspondence is subject to OIA. Do it!
  What is Hipkins hiding?
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:35am
  - rouppe
    
    Shouldn’t need to OIA the most open, honest and transparent government ever…
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      OIA is really the only way to get any sense out of them.
      All are as dodgy as.
      
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      June 8, 2023 10:11am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Love him or loath him, Cam Slater does have a way with words now and then. This re Mr Wood.
  
  I wonder what is worse, the smell from a “river of filth” caused by ordinary New Zealanders standing up for their rights and the rights of others, or the stench of corruption from a venal and deceitful little man?
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:35am
- Opie
  
  He has even got the flump into his seat to look like his predecessor
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:28am
oldpark

Helpless Hipkins himself with his debatable track record with how he has handled Three Waters and 50/50 Co- Government fiasco demanded by some of his Caucus.
Now he is once more under the reality check on what to do with one of his Ministers’ for his blatant careless cavalier decision regarding a few paltry shares . The answer is obvious in the minds of many.
Question might be? Are NZs being run by a capable Democratic Government or by a “School for Scoundrels “.Ouch!
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June 8, 2023 8:17am
kevn

@Tony… It is the on-going arrogant deception that is woods issue. Trust of him from within labour must be very low now.
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June 8, 2023 8:17am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Yes indeed. He’s definitely burned his bridges as far as a tilt at the Labour Party leadership goes.
  
  If Labour loses in October, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Hipkins bails out. He’s had 15 years in Parliament including six in government, and I doubt the prospect of a lengthy spell in opposition would inspire him. Sure, he has no outside experience, but I’m sure Kris Faafoi would take him on as a lobbyist.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:28am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    I thought for a split second there Tony, you were going to suggest Hipkins would have to get a job!
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:36am
    - Matt Long
      
      The Hipkins’ are just great at improving Aorearoan school curricula, sure to be a job for him at whatever the Aotearoan equivalent of the MoE is.
      
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      June 8, 2023 11:51am
  - mandk
    
    He could apply for a job at the Upper Hutt Cossie Club.
    
    He should be in good standing because he says he is a regular there.
    
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    June 8, 2023 8:45am
  - rockape
    
    There ex leaders tend to hang around like a bad smell. Goeff, Little anyone ?
    
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    June 8, 2023 9:20am
  - pdm
    
    ` He’s definitely burned his bridges as far as a tilt at the Labour Party leadership goes.’
    
    You forget at your peril Inv that people like Michael Wood have no conscience and nor do they have any shame.
    
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    June 8, 2023 9:41am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yep, I think he would be arrogant enough to put his corrupt little gabs up
      
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      June 8, 2023 1:06pm
  - Local Miller
    
    When Liebour loses in October.
    
    I’m sure Chippy will bail. If he doesn’t he’ll be rolled. No Liebour MP wants to follow a loser.
    
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    June 8, 2023 9:49am
    - rouppe
      
      Rolled by whom?
      
      The realistic options are Andrew Little (again) and Megan Woods. Grant doesn’t want it (and might well bail as well). There just isn’t anyone else…
      
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      June 8, 2023 10:01am
      - Ghost
        
        Yeah there is, but she and the Māori caucus are just waiting for the right time
        
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        June 8, 2023 10:07am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      But but but, an expensive by election
      
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      June 8, 2023 1:07pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Bail on Election eve. It has been done before.
    I am disappointed that it will now not be Jaspinda. I wanted to see her suffer for what she has done to our lovely Country.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:16am
Rusty

As of this morning Mike Hosking has pointed out Michael Wood still hasn’t sold his shares.
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June 8, 2023 8:18am
fightingtemeraire

Wood will be looking for a job at Barkers or Hallensteins soon!!!
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June 8, 2023 8:25am
- Bob
  
  job at Barkers or Hallensteins……
  surely these establishments would want someone who knows that there is a left and a right leg to a suit, not someone who only has to LEFT LEGS.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:45am
cas

There was an item on the 3 news last night about the success of prioritising Maori and Pacifica for type 2 diabetes medicine. The question was then asked should the programme be spread into other forms of health issues.

Surely we should be prioritising the cause not the effects. Get people off the couch, teach them how to put in a vege garden, cut out the crap in siupermarket trolleys etc,
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June 8, 2023 8:31am
Paulus

How sad for New Zealand that such people have the audacity to believe that rules that they signed do not apply to them.
But if course Wood is a former Tradev Union man so there it is only their rules.
He must resign, but has not the integrity to do so – stay there for another few months to advantage the opposition and stifle little Chippe.
Sepuloni will be pleased as this knocks him out of any contention.
Imagine if you can if this was a National Party Minister – I can hear the media from everywhere in the country screaming headlines.
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June 8, 2023 8:33am
I remember when

‘Media wrong again about Quebec wildfires: Wattsupwiththat.
Three of the main points raised in article.
1. According to Canada’s Department of Natural Resources, natural disturbances such as forest fires, have been part of the natural forest cycle for thousands of years and most often contribute to their regeneration.
2. The boreal forest is particularly vulnerable to fires because it is mainly composed of resinous trees, whih have a high flammability index.
3. It should be noted that this is the time of the year (Spring) when human activities are responsible for 50% to 75% of vegetation fires.

So, yes, there are man-made causes for forest fires.
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June 8, 2023 8:36am
- Phronesis
  
  Ironically the largest contribution to increasing forest fires is the recent history of putting out forest fires. By interfering in the natural cycle of fires we have created a situation where the ever increasing fuel load results in bigger, hotter, fires which do more permanent damage. It’s well understood but doesn’t fit the narrative…
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:03am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, I have seen the special forest fire teams on Fox doing this work, they are called BLM not sure what the letters mean, but they usually helicopter snd drop into the area
  
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  June 8, 2023 1:10pm
slightlyrighty

Nicola Willis, in question time yesterday, was a complete masterclass in how to hold this government to account, and whoever drafted that oral question deserves a chocolate fish!

Bringing to light the 12 times Michael Wood was asked about these shares has certainly scored major points. It has the other effect of making Chippie look even less capable than Ardern!
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June 8, 2023 8:41am
- Bob
  
  Chippie look even less capable than Ardern!…..
  wouldn’t have believed that such.. ‘less capable’….. was possible until I witnessed this fiasco on TV
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:49am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Not a fair comparison – Ardern had Mallard running defence all of the time. Chippy isn’t getting the same help from the current speaker!
    
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    June 8, 2023 7:53pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Just before the Act hounds ask where was Luxon, I am pretty sure he would have been meeting the Fiji pm seeing Hipkins met him in the morning, that’s usually how it works
  
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  June 8, 2023 1:12pm
AgainstTheFlow

Airports are regulated by the Civil Aviation Act that was passed earlier this year. It had lots of changes from the earlier 1990 Act.

Michael Wood was the Minister who introduced it, and it didn’t materially change that I can see when it was finally passed with Kiri Allen in charge of aviation.
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June 8, 2023 8:44am
Tasman devil

Bring back Poto.
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June 8, 2023 8:48am
slightlyrighty

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/some-ottawa-parents-keep-kids-home-from-school-due-to-pride-activities-ocdsb-says-1.6423778

The Backlash against the activist pride movement (as opposed to the celebratory pride movement) is resulting in some schools having over 40% of the students being removed by their parents.

Well, well, well?
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June 8, 2023 8:50am
- ClanMcleod
  
  slightlyrighty – peaceful non compliance does the trick, every time. People should always remember this.
  Don’t argue about the things you don’t like, just don’t be involved, don’t play the game. Starve them of oxygen.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:52am
I remember when

Checkmate for Rooks: Neighbourly.
What may be the last rook in the Canterbury region was shot and killed in North Canterbury recently.
Back in the 90s, Canterbury’s rook population was estimated to be in the thousands.
About a week after various sightings on a North Canterbury farm, it was killed by a worker on the farm.
Rooks are still known to live in Marlborough and Otago regions.
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June 8, 2023 8:54am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  An “Unwanted Organism” (or pest) if I remember rightly IRW. There aren’t too many farmers who will shed a tear that they have gone.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:13am
Maggie Pie

Remember when Chippie was Minister-of-Education and brought that shit stirring Fijian trans activist onboard for three years……as an ‘Advisor’?

This is the outcome 🙁

https://twitter.com/NMadeinNZ/status/1666200217660846081

(….the comments say it all)
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June 8, 2023 8:56am
Prince

Te Whatu Ora (aka Health Dept) is six months behind in releasing data containing waiting times etc.
SIX MONTHS.

Corruption akin to Education Dept, or just incompetence ?
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June 8, 2023 8:56am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Both, with a dash of corruption.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:28am
kevn

@Maggie… A sort of fatal attraction element.
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June 8, 2023 9:09am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Tell me this is not gaining traction and getting bigger by the day.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/nelson-meeting-full-people-were-turned-away/
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June 8, 2023 9:11am
ClanMcleod

NZ Health regulators have refused a recent FOI request claiming collecting the requested information regarding a particular batch of the comirnaty covid vaccine would require “manual collation”.

This is clearly a lie. How can they possibly implement an experimental product under emergency use authority, and not be tracking the outcomes? They spent enough money on a vaccine register!

As the article notes:

Dear Antipodean readers, you should know that the Kiwi Ministry of Health spent $38 million establishing a bespoke Covid Vaccination Register. The database records every administered vaccine, including the patient details and batch number. Yet they are manually collating just like their British counterparts.

The article is specifically about the UK equivalent to Medsafe, the MHRA, but the authors, both trained medical professionals, note that NZ is doing the same thing.

The parallels in the inability to provide critical information regarding vaccine harms is disturbing.

https://trusttheevidence.substack.com/p/can-we-trust-pharmacovigilance-by?r=1lcx51
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June 8, 2023 9:16am
- miltonF
  
  They didn’t have any problems predicting outcomes based on wildly inaccurate models. Their confidence was out of this world. Yet now that they have the data right in front of them…the results seem hard to quantify. Hahaha.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:57am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    @miltonF – that’s an excellent point! “80,000 dead”, monotonous daily ‘cases’ counts in all of the media, but they are trying to tell the public they can’t tell us how many people got a specific batch of the vaccine?
    
    Completely implausible. If by any chance this was true then Medsafe as an organisation needs to be wiped out and everyone employed by them needs to lose their job instantly. It would be an incomprehensible level of ineptitude. Of course it isn’t, it’s a blatant refusal to give up the information.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:23am
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      Don’t confuse Medsafe with the MoH. It’s the MoH that has the data.
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:40pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Rumors that Prince Harry has had a hair-transplant are patently untrue.

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1666423890053152775
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June 8, 2023 9:28am
- Rusty
  
  @Maggie,
  
  And the rumours that James Hewitt is Harrys real dad are untrue — I think.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:45am
Chuck Bird

I just heard on of the Auckland Counsellors has just declared $3 million shares in a trust.
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June 8, 2023 9:29am
- Phronesis
  
  Surely not the councillor who stated here:
  
  https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/ElectedMemberDeclaration/julie-fairey-albert-eden-puketapapa-22.pdf
  
  NO to the question of, Do you have a beneficial interest in a Trust?
  
  A trust named The JM Fairey Family Trust…
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:13am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @Phronesis –
    Surely that is just outright lying?
    Contemptible.
    What an example to set to the residents, ratepayers and those struggling to get by.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:27am
- Chuck Bird
  
  It was not her. It is a third person.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:40am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Wayne Walker is the councillor in question. And all three councillors who have declared AIAL shareholdings have been given the okay to vote on the issue today 🤔
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They did say theee wax two others with shares
    
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    June 8, 2023 1:15pm
I remember when

US same store sales for the year to May, 2023, have only grown by 0.6%.
Once the growth of inflation is deducted, it is negative growth.
They are predicting Deflation.
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June 8, 2023 9:34am
Bobba Fret

So with all the crime and after numerous questions, we discover that the only person that actually feels safer in NZ now is Ginny Anderson herself.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/national-mp-mark-mitchell-v-police-minister-ginny-andersen-labour-fails-to-stop-use-of-partial-quote/52R7ALLX65BMDP3KCRXRD44Q5E/
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June 8, 2023 9:51am
- kowtow
  
  Yep and the Gang Gun Shopping List , oh sorry , the Firearms Register goes live this month.
  
  What could possibly go wrong ?
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Why not just email the list to the gangs?
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:42am
  - Phronesis
    
    There have been multiple cases of such information falling into criminal hands in NZ. I was thought to be involved in one case and the Police certainly thought it was a serious problem. Not that there was much they could do about it at that point.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:58am
Swifty

‘Iconic.’

‘Beloved.’

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/ladyhawke-and-madeleine-sami-announce-separation-after-more-than-10-years-together/7EKMNXWXL5AWXCKLIZ46SKZSEU/

Never heard of them.
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June 8, 2023 9:54am
- Ghost
  
  That’s alright, I read a stuff article where people were upset that Tina from Turners had died….. the idiot train rolls through N.Z.
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:58am
- mandk
  
  No surprise, they are D-list celebrities.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:11am
ClanMcleod

The insanity of net zero strikes again, this time in Germany. El gato malo reports:

Q: what did socialists use for light before candles?

A: electricity!

https://substack.com/inbox/post/126728198

This tweet tells the story.

Weeks before Germany’s nuclear closed, utility giant @RWE_AG CEO Markus Krebber rejected calls to save them:

“There is still enough electricity”

The reactors close. Six weeks later Krebber says:

“Germany has a serious problem: We don’t have as much energy available as we need”

https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1666505198498398210?s=20

These people are either utter morons and need removed from their jobs, or they are deliberately destroying our way of life to permit the implementation of the ‘great reset’ – in which case they should not only be removed from their job, they should be in jail on charges of treason.

Incompetence is one thing, deliberately destroying lives and businesses is a completely different level.
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June 8, 2023 10:00am
- kowtow
  
  Economic and social sabotage .
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:28am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Let me guess – experts are saying they need to install more wind turbines.
  Snigger.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:20am
- NZer In Exile
  
  CM: “These people are either utter morons and need removed from their jobs, or they are deliberately destroying our way of life to permit the implementation of the ‘great reset’”
  
  They are either cancel-culture true believers (aka morons) or are afraid of the said cancel culture so keep their heads down, toe the line, and do not object to the madness happening around them, like so many.
  
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  June 8, 2023 2:01pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  Always check where these people were born in Germany. If in the old East Germany you can make an assumption they have Communist leans and its sabotage. If born in the old West Germany incompetence is more likely BUT its Germany ffs so incompetence is unlikely! All paths point to deliberate sabotage
  
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  June 8, 2023 4:22pm
Gaetano

If these strippers and sex workers are unhappy with their working conditions, surely they can moves somewhere else.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/wellington/132239091/created-hell-dancers-at-breaking-point-speak-up-from-second-wellington-strip-club

From the article, there is no mention that the establishment is behaving unlawfully. The Green MPs are all affronted, but unless the strip club is breaking employment laws, what do they want? I guess the strippers could go on strike for better pay and conditions. If that doesn’t work they are probably being paid the market rate for erotic dancers.

Green MPs just refuse to understand markets.
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June 8, 2023 10:02am
- Maggie Pie
  
  “…..moves” (move)
  
  Just saying.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:29am
- kowtow
  
  If Green MP’s think this work is a legitimate occupation then I’d like to see them legislating apprenticeships.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:30am
  - Ghost
    
    They work, get paid, pay tax. Just because you don’t like what they do doesn’t mean it’s not an occupation.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:36am
    - Taieri
      
      Would you recommend it to your daughter?
      
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      June 8, 2023 11:52am
      - Ghost
        
        I had a friend years ago in the States that put himself through university and paying for his apartment as a male stripper, made good money.
        
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        June 8, 2023 12:52pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Strippers should set up their own business
  
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  June 8, 2023 6:41pm
ClanMcleod

Tucker Carlson’s first show on Twitter has had 90 MILLION views! The mainstream outlets like CNBC regularly struggle to get 2 million.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419?s=20

His first commentary is regarding the heavily damaged Kakhovka dam. Western media adamant that the Russians did it. The logic is a ludicrous as was used for the Nordstream pipeline sabotage.

Carlson approaches it in a rational manner. Cui bono. No proof and like with the pipeline, unequivocal evidence may never be found. His logic is hard to argue with.
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June 8, 2023 10:18am
- Inandout
  
  CM, the MSM in the US is on a downward spiral, especially Fox which I thought was a free speech champion. Twitter has attracted an enormous number of viewers, such numbers are almost unknown unless we include 9/11.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:30am
- Swifty
  
  Please note that on Twitter a ‘view’ is an impression, i.e. scrolling your screen and a video scrolls by, that counts as a ‘view’ for that video.
  
  I am told that the best estimates for his video actually being watched by someone is about 20% of his view total.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:31am
- Grunter
  
  Anyone out there that still thinks Zelenskyy is the good guy???
  
  Destroying a hydro dam that floods homes and villages of his own people just so he can continue his war crusade with his NATO buddies.
  
  The guy is an evil, twisted nut job!
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:44am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Grunter – Ukraine blew the dam, end of story.
    
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    June 8, 2023 6:04pm
    - mawm
      
      What if it was a third party? I would not put it beyond the CIA or SAS doing so to ramp up international condemnation of Putin and to garner more support for their anti Russia crusade. It seems as if the rest of the world is tired of it and are seeing the light.
      
      It is time for NZ to leave the 5 eyes and become truly neutral, after all we live in the oriental hemisphere and need to be friendly and trade with our Asian neighbours and not be dragged into dystopian American wars.
      
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      June 8, 2023 8:53pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Pretty sure the states blew the pipeline, remembering of course Biden saying if Russia set foot in Ukraine he will blow the pipeline, bang it was gone the next day.
  
  Not sure that the states would have a reason to blow this dam
  
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  June 8, 2023 1:20pm
Surely Knott

The name on your link says Julie Fairey update 6 june 2023. Looks like the info has been *updated. *

The answer re owning shares in trusts earlier in the week on the declaration was NO.

From the Herald “After being elected to the council last October, Fairey filed a declaration of interest stating neither she nor her husband has a financial interest in any company or business, and neither of them has a beneficial interest in a trust.”

Updating is not good enough imho. She lied on her declaration on a subject that was to have a strategically and politically important vote. And she and her husband knew it. There has to be some consequences.
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June 8, 2023 10:22am
- BeaB
  
  Nah. She’s Labour so it’s ok.
  Only nasty Nats have to be held to a higher standard.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:29am
Maggy Wassilieff

I must admit I was surprised to read so many comments yesterday about KB folks who had grown up in households with lousy cooks.

I was surrounded by good, basic home cooks as I grew up and am always surprised when I meet NZers who can’t cook.

My brothers are very good cooks and have been from their primary school days.
My father had a limited repertoire – usually snapper & boiled potatoes, but my mother & step-mother produced a variety of yummy grub, which I still try to replicate.

In the 2 years I was a boarder at NZ Friends School, I can’t remember any meal I disliked…and I’d love to get my hands on the recipe for the Trifle we were served every Sunday lunchtime.

I wasn’t exposed to “fine dining” until I met hubby…and quickly realised that the poor guy didn’t
have a clue about decent food. …Which sadly means that I’ve been in charge of the cooking for the last 50 years or so…. (sometimes relieved when my daughters are on deck – both fine cooks).
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June 8, 2023 10:23am
- Ghost
  
  I’m lucky, both my parents are good cooks. Also we lived in motels until intermediate so I spent a lot of time in the restaurant learning from our chefs and helping them
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:40am
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner loves the Trifle I make.
  
  >Store bought Jam Roll. Watties Peaches. All soaked overnight in Dow’s 20yo. Topped with Birds runny custard, peaky whipped cream, sprinkled with hundreds & thousands.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:46am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    WOOPSIE…..realised left out vital ingredient.
    
    > Spread liberal amount of ‘Anathoth Farm Raspberry Jam’ on sponge before pouring custard over.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is the second time hundreds and thousands have been mentioned recently.
    I showed a comment last week to my partner about them. In the shopping trolley I found a packet, so I asker her why. She said I should not have shown her the comment because she had been thinking about hundreds and thousands since.
    God knows what she is going to do with them.
    
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    June 8, 2023 10:59am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Get her to make the trifle silly!
      
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      June 8, 2023 11:03am
  - mogg
    
    Naughty but nice, I can resist anything except for temptation. My wife’s seventy mumble b/day soon I will give its go.
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:59am
- Swifty
  
  Mum died on Sunday, funeral today in Palmy at 2pm.
  
  Born in ‘34, grew up in Daniel St, Newtown, big vege garden and chooks. Her father used to put sacks (!) of whitebait on the garden as fertiliser. Roast chicken was home killed and only once or twice a year.
  
  One of the best home cooks I’ve known. Renowned for her dinner parties in the 60s and 70s. She’d be well underway on a Thursday for a Saturday dinner. Always fresh coffee beans, blue cheese and olive oil etc on hand even in the 70s which was a rarity back then.
  
  Just had a magic touch in the kitchen and a treasure trove for recipes and food memories.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:51am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    89. That’s a good innings. Condolences.
    I hope you have kept her recipe books, or was she one of those mothers who just did it from memory?
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:05am
    - Swifty
      
      We organised for her to do a big brain dump and dig out her old recipe books a few years ago. A book was produced and which also included a wealth of her food and early life memories and which was printed, bound and copies distributed amongst the family.
      
      A real treasure.
      
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      June 8, 2023 11:25am
  - BeaB
    
    Sounds like my mum. Condolences. You’ll miss her.
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:38am
    - Swifty
      
      Thank you BeaB.
      
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      June 8, 2023 12:25pm
  - mogg
    
    Very sad news, your mum’s recipes will be a great way to remember her life and times.
    
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    June 8, 2023 12:46pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    “Always fresh coffee beans, blue cheese and olive oil etc on hand even in the 70s”
    
    Had to go to the delicatessen for most of those back in those days. Loved the “exotic” smells at the delicatessen.
    
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    June 8, 2023 2:34pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Love this post. I remember Hutchinsons in Queen St, Auckland. It was the only place I can recall that had fresh coffee beans and exotic cheeses back in the 60s. The smell as you walked past was to die for…in a good way. It seemed so sophisticated in boring old Auckland back then.
      
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      June 8, 2023 3:01pm
- BeaB
  
  Agree. My Christchurch mother and grandmother were both superb cooks. Nothing over or undercooked, beautiful fresh vegetables and herbs from dad’s garden, plenty of fresh fruit from windfalls or local orchards, plenty of dairy and even eggs preserved to get through the non-laying season, now thankfully a thing of the past.
  Everything was made from scratch except the occasional treat of a cardboard box of ice-cream or a bag of broken biscuits from the local corner shop.
  However we weren’t keen on housework nor were we knitters or seamstresses so perhaps that’s where others’ talents lay. And many of our mothers went out to work, even in the 50’s and 60’s.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:37am
  - Taieri
    
    Everything was made from scratch
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    We still do that. Home baked sourdough bread, home made bacon, hams, salamis and sausages. Plenty of preserved veggies. And all meals cooked from scratch at home.
    Quite a bit of work involved but the taste more than makes up for it.
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:56am
- JimBobJoe
  
  My mum was a whizz in the kitchen on roasts – great roast tatties and yorkshire pudding. Great baking
  
  But sadly used to kill steak when we could afford it!
  
  Balanced out by fantastic meatballs, home made fish and chips…. and absolutely stunning home made pancakes.
  
  No complaints from me about her cooking (bar over cooked steak!)
  
  Miss it now she is gone
  
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  June 8, 2023 4:18pm
In Vino Veritas

Orakei Maori want to buy back Ports of Auckland land as it was apparently stolen from them. A couple of things, firstly, it seems to have escaped them that the Port is situated almost exclusively on reclaimed land. You know, land that didn’t exist when the Maori claim it was “stolen”. Lol. Secondly, in 2011, the Iwi received an $18m full and final settlement of all historical claims resulting from acts of the Crown. So their land wasn’t stolen as they claim, it was paid for in 2011.
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June 8, 2023 10:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  All they have to do is wait until the Coup, then they wont have to pay for it with our money.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:07am
- Drone
  
  @IN VV the claim is for the seabed..
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:19pm
- lifesgood
  
  People conveniently forget that the Orakei Maori came down from the Kaipara and stole the Auckland land from another tribe which they drove south to the Waikato. Memories only go back as far as is convenient.
  
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  June 8, 2023 3:04pm
Maggie Pie

How we’re seen a broad….

“Jacinda Ardern was a tyrant and hypocrite – her damehood is a travesty.
This really takes the New Zealand lolly cake. Whoever next?”

– Allison Pearson (Chief columnist, The-Daily-Telegraph)
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June 8, 2023 10:35am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Hopefully JA felt that burn.
  
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  June 8, 2023 10:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Forever.
    
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    June 8, 2023 11:08am
- kowtow
  
  Ha ha ha .
  
  Allison must be a misogynist.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:32am
- NZer In Exile
  
  I think the damehood was the activist-class beurotwats just taking the opportunity to piss all over mature and sensible New Zealanders. as they do.
  
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  June 8, 2023 2:38pm
- lifesgood
  
  Jordan Peterson has made similar comments on Twitter and included a picture of a woman who looks very similar to Ardern made up as a clown.
  
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  June 8, 2023 3:05pm
Blog-aholic

I see from the ‘news’ that the Shelly Bay fire was suspicious…..really? It had suspicion written all over it from the get go.
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June 8, 2023 10:45am
crackle

Wonder what this is costing us…
https://www.waipareira.com/census?utm_source=meta&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=whanau_ora_census_campaign_may_jun23&utm_content=prospecting_akl_key_areas_towards-maori_18plus_multi_rep_your_suburb_west
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June 8, 2023 10:49am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Pretty sure I read it was $9k to get 83 forms completed and returned.
  
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  June 8, 2023 11:01am
mandk

There’s a story on Stuff about the minimum mount each player in the FIFA Women’s World Cup will be paid.

Evidently, it’s going to be played in Aotearoa and Australia.

But I thought it was going to be played in New Zealand and Ahitereiria.
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June 8, 2023 10:55am
Ron Jeremy

Anyone else feel like Wood could be Aaron Gilmore brother from another mother ? Give him a perm and they could be twins
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June 8, 2023 11:46am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Meet the new Greens candidate for Ohariu.
Likes watermelon according to her bio.
And pies as well by the look of the pic in $tuffed 😛

https://twitter.com/bootstheory/status/1666548497942990848

To think they want to have a say in running the country. SHEESH!!
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June 8, 2023 11:50am
- alex Masterley
  
  Wouldn’t want to see that coming down a pole near me thanks.
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:19pm
- Gravelroad
  
  So just another gimmick pulled by the Green Party then.
  Anything for a laugh at the electorates, eh.
  
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  June 8, 2023 12:42pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    That is sooo right.
    Name ONE of them that’s ever created anything of value for New Zealand taxpayers….other than for themselves?
    
    And as for the Member-for-Tijuana. Don’t get me started 🙁
    
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    June 8, 2023 1:13pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I’m going to take a contrary view here. Sure, it’s a ‘look at moi’ moment, but name one politician that doesn’t. I don’t mind her having an idiosyncrasy or two.
  
  Which doesn’t stop me from thinking that she’s another (tautology alert!) fruit-loop Green.
  
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  June 8, 2023 8:47pm
Sparrow

Would like to correct a statement often made on this blog and fully appreciate that the world has changed unfortunately not for better. Both Andrew Little and Michael Wood are referred as Trade unionists. They are bureaucrats working for a Union they have not come from the factory floor, waterfront etc. Not been voted as the works delegate, or onto local and national executives.
Little is a lawyer, and Wood has been churned out of that morass of intellectual shit the Princess Street branch of the so called Labour Party (joke). Yes it was decades ago when I sailed with the likes of Dave Morgan, Terry Adams (RIP) and the impact of Tass Bull on the wharves and Pincher Martin on the ships.They were characters you had to stand up to them a battle of wits they knew their awards back to front and fought for their members unlike the employers who were generally useless. Poor management has been the scourge of NZ and still is. I sailed with one Master who shall remain nameless sorted out discussions with the delegate in a unique way. I know its a lost cause but Little and Wood and their ilk are not Unionists.
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June 8, 2023 1:23pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The Senior Master in SCONZ was a tall imposing Master of the Old School.
  
  He had the respect of the Seamen’s Union Members, Officials and also the Officer’s Unions.
  
  He could sort things out in a jiff by his power of Command.
  
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  June 8, 2023 2:28pm
- Inandout
  
  Sparrow, it has been years since Labour had ex shop floor MPs. Lange wasn’t, nor Rowling, but Kirk was. Hell that was a long time ago and a certain Fin Walsh had a dodgy reputation.
  
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  June 8, 2023 4:41pm
Opie

Tinetti getting absolutely ripped to shreds by Gerry Brownlee in the privileges committee.

She is spinning around in circles trying to say that she had no influence over something she was clearly influencing.

It’s terrifying to think someone of her intellect and morals was teaching our children and probably will again once booted out either today or in October.
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June 8, 2023 1:33pm
Chuck Bird

I just finished watching the Privileges Committee about Jan Tinetti. She is dancing on the head of a pin.

In an email between her office and the PMO it stated that it would be ideal if the data was released at the same time as another announcement.

She is saying that is different than her saying she wanting the date released at the same time as the anoucment.
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June 8, 2023 1:55pm
rjay

Good to see media trying to understand that weather events do not equate to climate change
https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132242759/what-probability-tells-us-about-extreme-weather-events-and-climate-change
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June 8, 2023 3:11pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  and why oh why do NZers forget that this country experiences storms, intense rainfalls and floods on a very regular basis.
  
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/floods/page-1
  
  and here’s 861 nasty weather events from 1846 til August 2021. (About 5 big weather events/year somewhere in NZ)
  
  https://hwe.niwa.co.nz/search/summary/Startdate/n-a/Enddate/n-a/Regions/all/Hazards/all/Impacts/all/Keywords/none/numberOfEvents/20/page/1
  
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  June 8, 2023 3:37pm
Gravelroad

Dear Mr Luxon,
Please stop talking about stupid stuff that does not concern you.
Stop giving potential voters silly reasons to not vote for National.
Talking about how many children people should or should not have is just a distraction from all the other issues we face.
Don’t go down these rabbit holes which give your opponents easy pickings.
Focus on the reality.
Choices about how many children, dogs, cars, holidays citizens have or might have are not subjects worthy of comment or advice from a political leader.
It only spreads division.
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June 8, 2023 3:39pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Actually Luxon is quite correct to raise the problem of De-Population.
  Its started and is going to escalate over the next 10 years.
  We are going to see dramatic changes in many countries because of it.
  Our Birth rate is ok (2.1?) but way lower than it really should be.
  Korea’s is around .8. They are fucked. Probably only a few million Koreans left by 2050-if that.
  Its going to be a massive problem for China.
  But, I take your point. We need to start by getting rid of the current Govt.
  
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  June 8, 2023 4:06pm
- Prince
  
  If you read the article you will see the context.
  The author, Bridie Witton, constantly pulls one remark out of context (in this case the answer to a question ‘what can we do to help our infrastucture problem) and makes that the whole focus of her article.
  The only way Luxon can stop articles like this is to stop making speeches, or ban ‘journalists’ from attending.
  You just have to recognise that Witton will try to bring National down, and ignore her pieces.
  
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  June 8, 2023 4:30pm
- Jack5
  
  Luxon was right.
  
  Our plunging birth rate is a problem for the economy. Any citizen, any politician, is entitled to have an opinion on this.
  
  We can be sure that no leader in NZ is going to go to the reputed lengths of Mussolini, causing power blackouts to get folk into bed and mating.
  
  Mussolini’s birth-rate plans didn’t work:
  
  https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/68267/why-did-italys-battle-for-births-fail
  
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  June 8, 2023 4:50pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This Katie Hobbs is a right pile of dung. This is the Woman who beat Kari Lake in thre Governor Election for Arizona. Hobbs was also responsibe for the vote counting. She refused to recuse herself and so a crooked result happened. How convenient.
Now this. What the hell is it with these lefties? To veto something like that is crazy!

https://billingsreport.com/__trashed-75/
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June 8, 2023 4:28pm
- mawm
  
  She’s a Democrat. The use of the word crazy is superfluous. ; )
  
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  June 8, 2023 9:05pm
Jack5

How long have NZ universities been using an Irish grading term for junior lecturers?

An article reproduced at the Red Radio web site (about Maori wanting to trademark their “treasures” – taonga – specifically manuka honey) describes the writer, David Jefferson, as “a senior lecturer (above the bar)” at Canterbury University.

The Academia section at Stack Exchange provides this definition of teacher gradings at Irish universities (descending order):

Professor (a.k.a, Full Professor)
Associate Professor
Senior Lecturer or Statutory Lecturer
Lecturer (above the bar)
Lecturer (below the bar)

The last two may be sometimes listed as “college lecturer” and “lecturer”. Most new academic staff in Ireland are appointed as lecturers (below the bar).

Canterbury University’s web site lists its academic grades in ascending order:

Assistant Lecturer (entry level without PhD)
Lecturer (entry level with PhD)
Senior Lecturer (Career grade)
Senior Lecturer Above the Bar
Associate Professor (equivalent to Reader in the UK system)
Professor
Distinguished Professor
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June 8, 2023 4:33pm
- Mike
  
  I prefer to stay ‘near the bar’, to facilitate easier communication with the bartender.
  
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  June 8, 2023 7:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

CONTRACT DRIVER CONFIRMS HE HAULED TRAILER OF BALLOTS FROM NY TO PA IN LATE OCTOBER 2020.
https://billingsreport.com/__trashed-74/
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June 8, 2023 5:34pm
- Mike
  
  And was it also Colonel Mustard in the conservatory with the lead piping, or Hunter Biden in the polling station with the smoking gun?
  
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  June 8, 2023 7:18pm
Maggie Pie

Someome may have the answer?

We were just discusing whether senior constable Keith Abbot received a bravery award fror the shooting of Steven Wallace?
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June 8, 2023 6:53pm
Maggie Pie

NIC SMITH TRENDING

Vic facing $33 million deficit….looking to cut 260 staff!

Labor finds $32,000 million for ‘Kapa-Haka’ festival.
Chippie says… “It’s a matter of priorities”

https://twitter.com/NewsroomNZ/status/1666707182014935040
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June 8, 2023 7:43pm
- Mike
  
  But who do you hate more: woke university academics or woke haka performers?
  
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