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Warren

Damien Grant: Chris Hipkins fails the moral and competence test to be Prime Minister.
I have been critical of many of Damien Grant’s columns on Stuff but today he has penned and showed he has the balls to honesty call it as it is about how weak and what a total failure Chris Hipkins has been as a MP, Cabinet Minister and now Prime Minister for this corrupt Labour Government.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pm
This would be one of the best articles in the last five years from any Journalists or Guest Writers with facts to back up his honesty.
Is this the beginning of the end for this corrupt Government and could we see more p pen articles of fact about how weak and inept this Government , Cabinet and their MP’s are, let’s hope so and honesty finally prevails.
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May 28, 2023 8:00am
- KH
  
  How the hell did Stuff’s secret backers allow that article on Stuff.
  There will be words.
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:25am
- rangitoto
  
  Damien gets the tweet of the day award:
  
  https://twitter.com/damienmgrant/status/1662327243341967361
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:41am
  - KH
    
    Best one from Damien yes.
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:54am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  People keep trying these sneaky tactics on me to try and entice me into clicking on a Stuff link.
  Good try, but it didn’t work.
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Trust us… that link is worth reading.
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:40am
    - kowtow
      
      Yeah, I couldn’t resist , esp as they’ve allowed comments ! And those too are instructive .
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:00pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        And there’s 727 as of the time of posting here
        
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        May 28, 2023 5:47pm
  - leoj
    
    Try this:
    
    https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/
    
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    May 29, 2023 12:16am
Jade Warrior

Andrea Vance returns to her attack on National in Stuff this morning, criticising the party for having the temerity to use AI in its election campaign and asking “How is National going to feel when they are the party who will be mocked?”

Well pardon me Ms Vance but have you stopped and had a good look at how the mainstream media are currently treating National? Whether it’s standard reporting, opinion columns or cartoons, National is being repeatedly mocked and ridiculed by the media with an intensity that is without precedent in New Zealand. What makes the mockery all the more astonishing is that National aren’t even in government. So much for the media holding power to account.

If Vance and her ilk are uncomfortable about AI being used by political parties (and truth be told there may be some merit to their concerns) then perhaps they might want to have a long, hard look at their own approach to how they treat National, and contrast that with their thinly veiled cheerleading of Labour and Hipkins.

You never know Andrea – if people like yourself were more even-handed in your treatment of National, perhaps the party might not have felt the need to use AI in the first place. Now there’s a thought.
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May 28, 2023 8:03am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  It must be pretty concerning when some political journos and ‘cartoonists’ already seem to be at desperation levels.
  
  How long until the election…?
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:52am
  - peterwn
    
    20 weeks. One would think that at this stage and by being in Government, that Labour would be extolling its virtues to the electorate and not bothering with a minor irritation called National. But instead Labour’s campaigning seems to be all about National.
    
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    May 28, 2023 1:55pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It’s so weak and petty from media and that fool Robertson for even talking about this, are they not only making pics? What the hell is wrong with that? What difference is it from sir brushing Helen Clark a few years ago to make her look like a woman
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:59am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Andrea: you are a journalist. It’s not your job to mock anyone.
  
  Just the facts, Andrea, just the facts.
  
  I already have my own opinion & I don’t need yours.
  
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  May 28, 2023 5:49pm
artemisia

DEI or DIE? Two acronyms for diversity etc, each with a different connotation – ‘of god’ / ‘end of’.

The second acronym is popping its head above the parapet a bit more often these days, sometimes serious, sometimes making a point. Or a laugh. Sounds like the beginning of a grassroots movement.
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May 28, 2023 8:07am
Souvlaki

For what it’s worth , this column by Damien Grant is possibly his best ever….’exocet ‘precision on all points.
I would love to see ” Bomber” Bradbury…who likes to portray himself as an ‘ honest’ commentator of the left rebut Damiens points…..he won’t be able to however….because they’re irrefutably true . This article deserves wide exposure ….especially to the brain dead ” glued on “Labour voters who have a conscience after all!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pm?cid=app-android
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May 28, 2023 8:12am
- ClanMcleod
  
  It’s excellent and on point in almost everything.
  The only slight criticism I have is that the extent of his criticism of Hipkins re his role as covid minister is of the awful Bellis case, which was pure politics, and the MIQ shambles. Certainly both examples of terrible management.
  
  But no mention of those mandated out of their jobs, and nothing about the vaccine injured and dead.
  I can (sadly) understand some political reluctance to address the latter, but surely the mandates were the most egregious action in all of this? That and the associated medical apartheid regime that accompanied it?
  
  He also makes the mistake or referencing failure in testing. That’s a non topic, other than antibody testing which the government bizarrely banned in early 2020, the various tests employed are useless. There is nothing to discuss.
  
  Otherwise, he’s absolutely skewered the sausage roll muncher from the Hutt.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:32am
  - Mark Hanley
    
    Damian hits the nail on the head…
    paraphrased…..
    “Luxon has the managerial competence and intellectual curiosity to actually govern.”
    
    National’s sensible policies coupled with their expertise will get NZ back on track with sustainable middle ground policies.
    
    I’m hoping for a 75% majority, entrenchment of a citizen’s referenda system for policies not costed, business cased, and laid out before the election (NZ has a sensible pandemic plan which Labour ignored to the sole benefit of the Labour hierarchy and their associated financial interests) but that hope will only come about if enough people get off their chuffs and support it.
    
    While it is easy to throw largely unsubstantiated abuse and criticism at Luxon and National, none of the abusers have yet come up with a good reason to vote for someone else.
    
    I was questioned yesterday about my views on National’s part in the vaccine injury cover up (Seymour is astoundingly denying excess deaths). I explained that most voters supported Adern’s disastrous covid response and they have moved on from the vaccine so electorally there is very little capital there for Luxon.
    
    I also explained my disgust at Adern’s statements about the vaccine being safe and effective whilst she possessed a medsafe report that it was neither safe nor effective.
    
    I took my teenage children to get that poison put in their bodies and I have a plan to hold Adern and her ministers to account (citizens in many other countries are pursuing their lying politicians).
    
    Who will get off their KB soapboxes and help me actually do something about the problem?
    
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    May 28, 2023 9:24am
    - artemisia
      
      Keith White posted here the other day that he is planning similar.
      
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      May 28, 2023 10:14am
      - Keith White
        
        Yes, not forgiving, not forgetting, and planning for what is possible (and affordable).
        
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        May 28, 2023 6:05pm
    - Taieri
      
      “Luxon has the managerial competence and intellectual curiosity to actually govern.”
      ————–
      
      But can he convince the voters?
      
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      May 28, 2023 10:57am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Well, the tide has turned away from the very brief honeymoon period of the silly sausage roll scoffer, the budget did not halt the decline, the vulgar smearing of super in 20 years time will not help, and I think if they try and say at the election ta cuts are on, then that will be seen as arrogant and stupid after telling us this is not the time
        
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        May 28, 2023 12:05pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Like isolated Japanese soldiers fighting years after the war is lost, Labour (and disappointingly ACT) spin doctors and die hard supporters continue to attempt to sew seeds of doubt amongst the electorate.
        
        Labour is toast!
        
        We can now turn our attention to solutions post the inevitable electoral rout.
        
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        May 28, 2023 12:43pm
      - Paulus
        
        Problem is that it is the ladies whose votes are under the most scrutiny and they do not like bald headed Managers.
        They like cuddles like from the Boy from the Hutt.
        
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        May 28, 2023 1:16pm
      - peterwn
        
        Labour is giving him a strong helping hand. Also Chris Luxon has not put all National’s cards on the table yet. He does not want Labour to pick them up.
        
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        May 28, 2023 1:58pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Paulus: it’s been suggested that many older women are not really into toy boys & in fact bald, well-off men are quite their catnip.
        
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        May 28, 2023 5:52pm
    - artemisia
      
      Suggest start with a plan to request information under the Official Information Act. Could use fyi.org.nz to publicly record requests and responses, maybe using some standardised terms to make searching results more effective. Straightforward to send the same or similar request to multiple agencies.
      
      Can’t request personal info via this site, so individuals would need to do that.
      
      Rubbish responses and delays can be referred to the Ombudsman.
      
      As an initial step this has the advantage of not much effort by requesters.
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:16am
      - Master Mariner
        
        Thanks for your heads up regarding OIA request.
        Followed through to conclusion and recieved apologies from MBIE and MNZ etc.
        Thanks again MM.
        
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        May 28, 2023 12:10pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Thx Artemisia.
        
        No point doing anything whilst Labour is in control.
        
        But when they lose. Watch out!
        
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        May 28, 2023 12:46pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Mark – seriously, how difficult is it to acknowledge what everyone knows, including the diehard Labour supporters? I can’t imagine more than 5% of people are actually oblivious to the truth.
      We had a staunch Labour friend, after a year when he saw me kicked off Coastguard and another mate who he had done firefighting duties with in Canada and Australia lost his position due to mandates, our mate had a great attack, he knows it was due to vaccine.
      He’s never said sorry, what he did say was “we should have stood by you guys”.
      
      That was enough, we’ve moved on. No apology needed.
      Why can’t National do this?
      Sorry, but we aren’t going to pretend it didn’t happen.
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:56am
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Clan, I’m not sure what your point is?
        
        Should Adern, Hipkins, Robertson, and Bloomfield be held to account for poisoning a nation? Absolutely!
        
        Is Luxon choosing the key issues he thinks will win National the election then articulating goals to address those issues a good campaign strategy? Absolutely!
        
        The two are not mutually exclusive.
        
        What actions are you taking to ensure the Labour hierarchy’s abuse of power for self enrichment at our expense is punished?
        
        What are you doing to ensure it never happens again?
        
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        May 28, 2023 12:23pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        You’re not sure what the point is? How difficult can it be? How many times have I said give us a simple acknowledgment that harms were done.
        
        Luxon, Bishop and Seymour wanted to poison us more efficiently. He can say they didn’t have the information, that they were lied to. It’s the truth. You think that will alternate voters?
        
        If this makes me idealistic so be it. If it means I am not part of a society that operates on lies, abuse and deceit then so be it.
        Is target go bush.
        
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        May 28, 2023 1:08pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Sorry for the typos, at the airport on the phone and no glasses. 🙄
        
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        May 28, 2023 1:32pm
      - Mark Hanley
        
        Clan,
        
        I’m not sure that National apologizing for Adern’s, Hipkin’s, Robertson’s, and Bloomfield’s unconscionable covid actions will help?
        
        I am sure that general abuse of Luxon prior to the election will not help. He is your only hope!
        
        I am sure that if you are advocating for:
        – acknowledgement of covid response harm by National & ACT,
        – laws changed so we can’t fall victim to another corrupt Labour cabal,
        – people to be held to account,
        then you need to start or join a campaign for an independent royal commission of inquiry conducted by a Swedish judge, when National and ACT are in government.
        
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        May 28, 2023 2:36pm
    - MCōs
      
      I haven’t read Grant’s opinion, but in my opinion Labour problems stem from having a majority of seats in parliament.
      https://twitter.com/cameron78588471/status/1662573788771524608?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:18pm
  - leoj
    
    I emailed Seymour on this.
    
    He remains in denial about the vaccine harm.
    
    All 120 MPs are freeking disgrace, they were all in lockstep with each other.
    
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    May 29, 2023 12:18am
- Simon
  
  But that’s the system. The left can’t complete in the real world and use politics to gain control and power. At least with National party types many have successful in the real world.
  
  Does anyone expect anyone from the left to have achieved success or be able to complete in the real world? Hipkins is a product of the system in place. Grant makes it about Hipkins. He isn’t the problem the system that puts someone Hipkins in place is.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:43am
- Philview
  
  I also read Oliver Hartwich’s article on the Breakingviews site this morning. The IMF projects NZ will have the worst trade deficit in the developed world this year. Our GDP per Capita is sliding down the global rankings and foreign investment is shrinking. We are a country in economic trouble as well as all the things Damien talked about.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:52am
- pdm
  
  I thought Damien Grant was excellent this morning.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is hard to believe that anyone could have been more incompetent as a PM than Jacinda Ardern, but looks like Chris Hipkins may surpass her.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:57am
  - kevn
    
    @Maggy… hipkins is on a par with arden as being FAKE.
    
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    May 28, 2023 9:00am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      ARDERN ffs.
      
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      May 28, 2023 9:03am
      - kevn
        
        Save it for a more worthy cause.
        
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        May 28, 2023 9:14am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        You mean like Keys.
        
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        May 28, 2023 9:54am
  - artemisia
    
    Will Ms Ardern get the big gong next week?
    
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    May 28, 2023 9:03am
    - nathie
      
      If so, the most undeserved in NZ’s history?
      
      For competence? Nope!
      
      Umm for “kindness” then? I guess “Orwellian kindness” would tick that box surely!
      
      So should she turn it down? If I were in her shoes I would (I mean … what for exactly).
      
      But bet in her deluded mind she damn well deserves it … oh and worked really hard for it!
      
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      May 28, 2023 10:52am
  - peterwn
    
    And Chris H dose not have the gift of the gab that Jacinda Arden has. Seems Grant Robertson is doing most of labour’s work in the background with OUR money.
    
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    May 28, 2023 9:28am
    - Paulus
      
      Robertson does not care how far he puts the Country into absolute debt – like Cullen did, remember forgetting the ACC $3 billion liability, and telling Treasury to leave it out.
      He is done in October and becomes a paid backbench list hack as nobody else will employ him.
      
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      May 28, 2023 1:22pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Grant Robertson has been troughing for years and has no family responsibilities.
        
        He’ll have loads of money to retire on given his in-depth macroeconomic knowledge and shrewd investment nous – wait, what??
        
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        May 28, 2023 5:57pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    No Maggy, Ardern will take that prize with her to her grave. There will be no one as totally unsuited and inept as her make it to PM again. And that’s not saying Hipkins is not hopeless, because he is. He has the intellect, ability and spine of a blob of formless goo.
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:55am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Maggy, if you look at the whole Labour cabinet there is not one competent Minister who could be a Prime Minister.
    
    Many tout Parker as being the intellectual one in the cabinet. In my opinion, that is setting a low bar. As can be seen by his RMA reforms, they are more about entrenching Labour politics into what is legislation important for the future development of NZ. As Environment Minister what has he delivered. As Revenue Minister, he has showed he is an old school Dunedin Labour socialism, with contempt for those who have wealth irrespective of how it has been accumulated. Not someone to be a PM then.
    
    Then there are the rest….
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:55am
- alex Masterley
  
  A great article by Damien. Vlad the Impaler would be impressed.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:01am
- redeye
  
  Gread read.
  All of that and he didn’t even mention Hipkins’ failure as Police Minister.
  I did like that he also skewered the press gallery.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:19am
  - nathie
    
    Most of the Press Gallery are a disgrace to their profession and to those that went before them that actually held the government of the day to account.
    
    Nevermind having “big shoes to fill”, they’ve kicked them off and instead have their feet up on the desk sipping latte’s and regurgitating Labour press releases and Grant Robertson’s newspeak!
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:57am
    - kowtow
      
      “Jessica , then Tova”.
      
      Never forget , never forgive.
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:03pm
ClanMcleod

Re the proposal to give the WHO centralized power during any future ‘pandemic’, here’s some damning commentary from the former WHO director of their cancer programme Karol Sikora.

Having spent two years as director of the WHO cancer programme, I am more informed than most about the eye-watering waste and incompetence that oozes from every crevice of that organisation. Very strong on politics, very weak on expertise.

Mind you, that sounds just like the current Labour government.

It would be very interesting if we could get comments from the various political parties regarding their thoughts and respective positions on this proposal.
Maybe Arden could let us know what her mate Bill Gates thinks about it all and has she introduced him to Chippy yet….

https://web.archive.org/web/20230527065856/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/27/who-pandemic-treaty-would-be-a-threat-to-our-freedom/
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May 28, 2023 8:13am
- backster
  
  Listen to Leightons latest podcast 196 on the subject. I agree it’s very alarming.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:34am
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300888716/youths-who-beat-78yearold-in-home-and-left-him-for-dead-avoid-jail–heres-why
Isn’t this just super?
Everyone has a happy ending – apart from the old guy who got the bash with the hammer and crowbar by a couple of teenage gang wannabes while he was asleep in bed – in his own home.
And the Labour Party sees fit to electioneer about youth offending in the middle of the article via a cynical advertisement.
Try to stay classy Labour.
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May 28, 2023 8:15am
- ISeeRed
  
  I refuse to click anything on or linked to Stuff. So how did they avoid jail?
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:26am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    A combo of time already served (a bit) plus sincere apologies plus a bad background plus a naive judge – the usual, in other words.
    
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    May 28, 2023 6:00pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  This country is in an awful mess.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:38am
- Xquenda Choudhury
  
  I saw that “ad”. It looked like a caption for a story rather than an advertisement. I had assumed it was inserted there in error. If it is deliberately placed there that will be down to Stuff.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:40am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Originally there was an advert first then followed with electioneering by Mr Hipkins on the following:
    “Funding for two-year-olds in early childhood education got a “really positive response”, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins said. And a Hamilton youth hub will support older children to give them “better choices and better options”.
    
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    May 28, 2023 8:56am
    - Xquenda Choudhury
      
      OK I see that. But it is not a Labour Party ad. It is a news story by Christel Yardley of the Waikato Times.
      
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      May 28, 2023 9:23am
      - Prince
        
        Yes, it is not paid for by the Labour Party – rather the ad is paid by taxpayers, by way of the PJIF.
        
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        May 28, 2023 9:55am
- Simon
  
  They can bar code youth offenders, curfew them, regulate what they do, who they meet how they spent their time and where they travel.
  
  Through technology youth offenders can be controlled without going to prison. But govt in time intends to use this technology against society in general so doesn’t want to use against young criminals in the meantime
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:48am
- Opie
  
  Why do the attackers have a farnow but the victim has a family? If some white teens beat a 78 year old Maori almost to death with a hammer and crowbar would they they have been treated the same?
  
  One of the family members told the court that when the younger one was asked how he could attack an innocent old man, he replied: “It’s Mongrel Mob.” I thought the mob only made lunches and provided rehab services?
  
  “It was noted that the youth had spent five months in youth residence and 11 months on electronically-monitored bail, which was effectively the same as a three-year prison sentence.” Um what? Can someone please explain how that adds up to 3 years in jail?
  
  And this final gem from the judge to complete the madness:
  
  “Out of what was an awful situation that occurred on the 12th of January last year there can be some kernels of hope that the two people involved will be much, much better people than they were,” she said.”
  
  There were 3 people involved, one who will never be the same as he was before he was attacked by these little shits. We don’t care about victims anymore. Apparently one of them had been dislocated from his culture. So if I’m dislocated from my culture, can I give an old man a compound fracture?
  
  Regarding the little shits, a buck gets ten they reoffend again. This soft approach just shows them they can and will get away with it.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:18am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Unfortunately this sort of violence and then the youths being let off is becoming the norm.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:23am
- nathie
  
  Something is clearly wrong with the judicial system if judges are being enabled to apply fanciful outcomes. It needs to be stopped.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:48am
  - kowtow
    
    You’d wonder what the judge’s verdicts would be had it been a retired senior judge in a leafy suburb .
    
    Not to mention te media pardy’s , which is muted to say the least ( compared to the outrage they manufacture over certain other events of their chosing)
    
    There was a time too that te media pardy would have had an opinion from the SST , but they don’t seem to quote them any more. More gatekeeping ?
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:05am
  - GJM
    
    Maybe the judges need to be given the word. Sentence little scrotes like this to jail properly, or we will take the decision out of your hands and introduce minimum sentences. There will be no manifestly unjust cause either.
    
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    May 28, 2023 2:10pm
Cassandra

“No-one will understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems, they’re trying to solve their problems – getting elected and re-elected” – Thomas Sowell. That aphorism certainly applies to the left hand side of our Parliament where Labour MPs have the best paid job they’ve ever had or will have. Fortunately many of them will be available to, for example, Maccas or as checkout operators come the election.
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May 28, 2023 8:17am
- cmm
  
  It depends.
  
  Some also know they are not getting re-elected and are trying to cash out/feather their nests while they can. Refer: our awesome Cindy.
  
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  May 28, 2023 12:37pm
rockape

Never seen fewer comments in the news on a Labour conference. That’s probably because their was so little to report on. I certainly think National are dictating the scenario for election 2023. Thoselazy lefties just haven’t done the policy work again, like 2017 and 2020.
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May 28, 2023 8:22am
- Nickc2
  
  They didn’t need policies! They had Cindy in 2017 and Te MSM in 2020. In 2023, all they’ve got is a list of broken promises, an outstanding record of non-achievement, betrayal and desertion within their parliamentary ranks, a talent pool with their collective IQs totaling a single digit, a highly motivated and rewarded cabal of racist separatists, and a PM who’s renowned for BS and lies along with an unenviable record of obfuscation when dealing with voters.
  If I’ve missed out anything, feel free to comment.
  PS: Dont forget they’re beholding to the Greens and that other rag-tag mob calling themselves the TP Maori party.
  
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  May 28, 2023 8:44am
  - rockape
    
    They had policies in 2017 just hadn’t done any work on them hence they failed. Remember the 100,000 affordable Kiwibuild homes anyone. How did that end up with 6 times the waiting list for housing?
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:29am
    - nathie
      
      And remember Labour’s billboards in 2017 featuring a smiling Jacinda saying Labour will “clean up the rivers”.
      
      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YfHmP2rZKZs/WccPNgaCEbI/AAAAAAAAHUs/oKXBli4K9sooqcQd6fXJHxY1xMVQyQW2QCLcBGAs/s640/IMG_5285.JPG
      
      https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/z/5/6/4/5/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240×700.1z4yts.png/1581573652227.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium
      
      That’s funny, nothing really happened because according to the environmentalists supposedly things are worse!
      
      Labour = over promising and under delivering!
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:07am
    - artemisia
      
      Kiwibuild was Labour policy since 2012. Plenty of time to plan.
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:22am
      - nathie
        
        Hey that was Phil Twyford’s portfolio 2013-2017! Say no more!
        
        (“Wot … not my fault” sez Twyford, “Jacinda was meant to help me but she was always busy with Woman’s magazine shoots and taking selfies for her social media fans”)! 😉
        
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        May 28, 2023 11:38am
- PeeJay
  
  I sometimes think they are genuinely surprised that when they make an announcement, that whatever it isn’t magically solved by the announcement. Why is black blah blah still shit? But we made an announcement – isn’t that how this government thing works?
  
  Honestly, their IQ levels are so low that I genuinely believe that they just don’t understand the bloody hard work required to make something work.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:38am
  - rockape
    
    And that my friend is Labours problem in a nutshell. Most of them have never had to use their initiative to achieve any result.
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:30am
  - Scooter
    
    Spot on PJ, they don’t realise that there needs to be a plan, targets etc. Labore are only about slogans which really kicked off with Jacinda, Comms expert et al. Who can forget the mist shameful of all… the most transparent and honest govt eva
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:39pm
- nathie
  
  Jason Walls on ZB this morning, only 500 supporters turned up yesterday.
  
  That’s not good for the venue capacity (and if it were National the entire MSM would be trumpeting that)!
  
  Anyway, looks like Labour’s own supporters don’t buy Labour’s BS!
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:50am
  - kowtow
    
    Probably afraid to leave their homes unattended , due to the crime emergency and the number of criminals their party has unleashed on us.
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:00am
    - nathie
      
      Heh! Probably also had their cars nicked overnight by ram-raiders hence also the no show???
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:31am
  - Nickc2
    
    “Ah, but she has such a beautiful smile,” a thousand Blue Rinse Grannies chanted in unison as Cindy announced she was running for leadership of the Labour Party in 2017 and these Grannies voted accordingly.
    Now, they can’t even fill a Coffee Kiosk in Wgtn with Labour Party followers/supporters.
    IMO, all this goes to show how fickle the NZ voting population is eh?
    Let’s face it, you could stand a white Chawawa with a pink bow around its neck as Labour Party leader and dyed-in-the-wool Labourites would still vote for it.
    BTW, Chippy and Carmel were seen out shopping for pink bows last Friday. //
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:05am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    500 delegates, not sure there were any actual supporters
    
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    May 28, 2023 12:13pm
- Prince
  
  It’s not a conference, Labour call it a ‘congress’.
  As one wag put it, at least they admit it is more of a con than a pro.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:57am
  - Inandout
    
    Prince:
    
    ‘Congress of Soviets
    The Congress of Soviets was the supreme governing body of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and several other Soviet republics from 1917 to 1936 and a somewhat similar Congress of People’s Deputies from 1989 to 1991’.
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:59am
    - Prince
      
      Thank you Comrade.
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:03pm
Pineapple Lumps

Have you heard of PGLE?

The Partnership for Global LGBTIQ+ Equality (PGLE) is a coalition of organizations committed to leveraging their individual and collective advocacy to accelerate LGBTIQ+ equality and inclusion globally and drive positive change.

There is a video from WEF of the head of PGLE explaining they are supporting activists around the world.

The LGBTIQ+ ideology is being used by WEF and the UN to break down our societies, traditional values and advance their globalist agenda with the assistance of the founding members – leading multinational companies, notably Accenture, Boston Consulting Group, Cisco, Deloitte, Deutsche Bank, Edelman, EY, Mastercard, Microsoft, Procter & Gamble, PepsiCo, PwC, Salesforce, Scotiabank and The Coca-Cola Company.
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May 28, 2023 8:24am
- Che Guava
  
  “…leading multinational companies, notably Accenture, Boston Consulting Group, Cisco, Deloitte, Deutsche Bank, Edelman, EY, Mastercard, Microsoft, Procter & Gamble, PepsiCo, PwC, Salesforce, Scotiabank and The Coca-Cola Company.”
  
  Yeah. Bloody socialists!
  
  This is what I keep telling you all – capitalists are ruining the world, not “communists” or “socialists.”
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:50am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It’s all part of a plan to destroy society as we know it. It’s the only way the Great Reset can be implemented. Break the existing, shatter it into a million pieces. This is what we’re living through. Covid, alphabet fascism, gender fascism, climate fascism, racial division, religious division. Destruction of the family and societal fabric. The bring in your global plan to “fix” everything.
    There are no conspiracy theories left. I’ll choke on my cornflakes if ANY of the mainstream political parties speak out against the proposed WHO takeover of world health.
    
    We’re in a hybrid war. One we should win comfortably because the alternatives are ludicrous, but we need more people to realize just what is going on. It isn’t accidental.
    
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    May 28, 2023 1:24pm
- kowtow
  
  Slowly but surely consumers will /can learn to “defund” this crony capitalist , virtue signalling , cultural revolution.
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:04am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    See A Busch and Target for example….
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:28am
  - GJM
    
    Sort of. Once they have captured government control, then they can get their friends to pass laws to their benefit, and the detriment of the opposition. Weaponisation of the FBI, IRS, freezing protestors bank accounts in Canada, huge jail sentences for opposition protestors, yet burning down city blocks is ok, etc.
    
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    May 28, 2023 2:17pm
lemuzz

I can’t help thinking that with the significant shift to EV’s and the associated drop in liquid fuel sales and it’s corresponding drop in excise duty, where will this drop in government tax be made up. Will electricity charges increase or will EV’s be placed on a mileage based charge like diesel vehicles? If this is the case EV owners are in for a big financial shock in the near future or maybe all electricity users will help to subsidise EV owners by way of higher electricity charges
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May 28, 2023 8:28am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  EV road user charges kick in on 31 March 2024.
  
  https://www.autocar.co.nz/electric-car-road-user-charges-exemption-extended-to-2024/
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:14am
  - cmm
    
    Extended to then. I wonder whether it will be extended again…
    
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    May 28, 2023 12:38pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Why not both!
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:08am
Chuck Bird

Some interesting viewing with John Anderson, former Deputy PM of Oz and Melanie Philips

Why King Charles is Wrong About Slavery | Melanie Phillips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72k9RS8fTwE

This is a good short video from a longer one of over an hour. The longer one is worth viewing as well.
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May 28, 2023 8:31am
slightlyrighty

Popularity does not equal competence….
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May 28, 2023 8:53am
- MCōs
  
  That’s always been the Warriors problem
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:16am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    MCos, they are not even that popular. Their support comes from a few areas of Auckland, and being a one team country, it’s not surprising that they have at least a few supporters.
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:58am
    - kowtow
      
      I’d a thunk being associated with an historic , expensive , monumental failure ie the latest census, would be the last thing a competent board would want .
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Another FAIL/ NOT ACHIEVED for Labour’s NCEA revamp

“The largest high school in the country Rangitoto College, has pulled out of the refreshed NCEA Level One for 2024, introducing their own diploma to ensure a logical and coherent learning program for their students.

“This follows other schools such as St Cuthbert’s withdrawing from the refreshed Level One after what they believed was a dumbing down of the standards.

“Principals across New Zealand are sending a resounding message to the Government that they have no confidence in Labour’s NCEA changes.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2305/S00205/nzs-largest-high-school-gives-labours-ncea-a-fail.htm
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May 28, 2023 9:00am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Yes I hope more schools send them the same message.
  
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  May 28, 2023 9:25am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  IOW, NCEA == incompetent and incoherent.
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:09am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Oops, illogical and incoherent.
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:10am
Bridgenag

An interesting read

idea farm
a story from the past

https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/idea-farm?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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May 28, 2023 9:18am
Maggy Wassilieff

Michael Johnston identifies some of the problems with Labour’s proposed revamp of NCEA.

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/05/michael-johnston-with-ncea-nothing.html
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May 28, 2023 9:18am
My

Sometimes the news is so dumb..
News Talk ZB this morning.
Ukrainian official announces they are ready to launch a counter offensive…but he declined to confirm the date. Well duh..
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May 28, 2023 9:28am
- kowtow
  
  They’ve only a few more days to go for it to be the much heralded “Spring Offensive”.
  
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  May 28, 2023 12:11pm
Yvette

In the proposed bi-lingual road signs, will they be – as in the examples shown so far – Maori above English, so that, at the glance you often have of an upcoming sign, you will have to understand or ignore the Maori before reading the essential English message?

Or will the Road Code now require proficiency in te Reo Maori to pass for a driver’s licence, and those with licences already need to be retested to prove they have the same skill in Maori language?

How do you go on –
KOTAHI WAA I RUNGA I TE RAMA KAKARI
(Google translation, so may be crap compared to a phrase gifted by Nanaia Mahuta)
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May 28, 2023 9:50am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  I believe that we are being manipulated so that when the multi-language road signs come out with English on top we will be happy. Much like councils proposing a 15% rates increase followed by a 9% actual rates increase. People are then very happy and accepting.
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:09am
  - Hollyfield
    
    I wouldn’t be so sure of that. In our area all council signs are large Maori print on top and miniscule English print underneath, and sometimes the English text is a colour which is hard to read against the background colour. The English is impossible to read unless you’re standing right in front of it. So driving past a park or other council facilities, by the time you’ve finished reading the Maori you’ve driven past and didn’t get to see the English so are none the wiser if that’s the place you’re looking for. And at a council-funded theatre I spent ages wandering around trying to the find the bathrooms, then finally went down a corridor and found a door saying “Wahine” which I figured might be the Ladies Room. Armed with this new knowledge I looked again in the foyer and found a sign pointing to that corridor, but I didn’t understand the Maori, and hadn’t seen the tiny English text on a sign hanging high above my head.
    Or a letter I received from the Ministry of Education which had “Te Manua” (or something) in the logo at the top of the first page, with no indication on that letterhead what the organisation is, then at the bottom of the second page there was a different logo with some Maori words and then very tiny, almost invisible “Ministry of Education”.
    
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    May 28, 2023 12:09pm
- Yvette
  
  No one wants to say it publicly, but many Māori broadcasters and journalists privately describe Māori TV as a “basket case”. The viewing numbers can be down to a few thousand a night.
  
  According to Minister for Māori Development, Willie Jackson, Māori TV’s ratings have fallen away because it lacks good programming – in English.
  
  “In the past it has all been about the language (te Reo), a huge focus on the language, but we need our own news in English and we need our own programmes in English; it’s not so much about the language, it’s about the stories. Most of our people don’t speak te Reo and we shouldn’t do it at the expense of our people.
  
  “There are now minimal audiences on Māori TV. When Māori TV was at its best we had great programmes in English – remember Native Affairs, Code and outstanding coverage of Anzac day?” – Willie Jackson
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/mori-media-in-for-a-big-shake-up – June 8, 2021
  
  Who will be more likely to contribute to the road toll – Maori or non-Maori?
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:44am
- Burtland
  
  bi-lingual in Maori ? 1% proficient, 3% basic
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:40am
- Yvette
  
  Rather than have a casual lesson in te Reo Maori at 80kph or faster, instead of essential instant English information, I would rather the Maori language die out, instead of myself or fellow rand users.
  
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  May 28, 2023 12:04pm
BeaB

Hipkins says his ‘one regret’ since becoming PM is declaring his liking for sausage rolls.
Perhaps we could add to that list. Far less important than his juvenile food tastes of course.
Minor issues like inflation, mortgage rates, export prices, catastrophic education stats, health crises, families stuck in motel squalor, cyclone damage, homelessness, crime, youth crime. Etc, etc, etc.
NZ isn’t looking too rosy at the moment.
But keep stuffing your face, Chippy.
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May 28, 2023 9:53am
- Prince
  
  Sausage Rolls suits his character. Cheap filling surrounded by flaky stuff.
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:00am
  - Mike
    
    It’s the ordinary man persona that goes down well with the voters – Hipkins eating sausage rolls, Key drinking beer from the bottle, etc. No one believes these guys actually like anything except the finest food and wine.
    
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    May 28, 2023 10:17am
    - Inandout
      
      Mike, if you earned close to half a million dollars a year would you slum it?
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:05am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        would you slum it?
        
        If I never have a plate of “nouvelle cuisine” again in my life, I don’t think I’ll mind.
        
        I’m more than happy to eat good peasant fodder….
        (which doesn’t include greasy sausage rolls).
        
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        May 28, 2023 12:45pm
    - Che Guava
      
      They’re selling a product, and the product is themselves. Like all advertising, any connection with reality is usually minimal.
      
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      May 28, 2023 11:14am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Mike! You are alive!
      
      I was reading through the comments & there was a certain je ne sais quoi missing. And then I realised it was the absent snarky quotient associated with your diverse personas.
      
      You made me worried there for a moment.
      
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      May 28, 2023 6:12pm
- nathie
  
  Sausage rolls? Hmmm is Chippie being setup?
  
  By the Sausage Roll Grandmaster himself, Grant Robbo? (After all check out the food spread whenever there is an event on where GR is speaking at)!
  
  Are sausage rolls now like the dead fish that David Shearer waved around before being rolled? If so who is supplying the sausage rolls to Chippie from their stash? 😉
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:20am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Is this the same as the meat pies that no journalist could find an outlet in his electorate had sold to him?
    
    Or enjoying a beer down at the Cossie Club, where the locals have never seen him?
    
    Authentic man of the people our Chippie!
    
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    May 28, 2023 12:25pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The sausage roll companies agree, they are losing business like Bud lite after adverts by drag queens
  
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  May 28, 2023 12:16pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/julians-videos-reaching-thousands/
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May 28, 2023 10:24am
- C-Town
  
  I’ve heard that Wellington’s leftist rent-a-crowd are planning to infiltrate and disrupt tomorrow’s Kapiti meeting so be careful. I suspect they’re trying to provoke the attendees into getting angry and doing something foolish.
  
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  May 28, 2023 4:33pm
KH

Damian hits the nail on the head…
paraphrased…..
“Luxon has the managerial competence and intellectual curiosity to actually govern.”
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May 28, 2023 10:33am
- Che Guava
  
  He has managerial competence, but what evidence is there that Luxon is intellectually curious? I’d like to know the contents of his bookshelf to determine that question. When someone states that their most admired politician is Barack Obama, given the millennia of past titans in the political realm, this doesn’t indicate much intellectual curiosity.
  
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  May 28, 2023 10:56am
  - Hacked-Off
    
    Well, Luxon and Seymour used to be neighbors for a few years and they used to regularly exchange books and discuss issues. He is pragmatic and intellectually curious – his weakness is that he wants to be liked. A leader should be prepared to make the hard decisions irrespective whether the decision is popular or not. Doing what he feels is right and not what is popular is the only way this country turns around.
    
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    May 28, 2023 11:20am
    - Prince
      
      Has there been a PM, or indeed an MP in the last 100 years who did not want to be liked ?
      It’s in the job description.
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:01pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Like the age of super
      
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      May 28, 2023 12:18pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Oh here we go, Luxon is dumb and business tone deaf
    
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    May 28, 2023 12:17pm
BeaB

Michele Hewetson, the try-hard reporter in The Listener, like many of her media colleagues sees the Arena Williams’ sob-story about her dad as yet more evidence of Judith Collins’s hard-heartedness.
She misses the point. Several points in fact. How have we allowed a distinguished knight of the realm fall into such reduced circumstances he cannot find another $50 a month. Surely we should have a welfare fund for indigent knights. And how is her mother’s training as a GP so lacking that she cannot explain that the prescription charge is capped? And why cannot either daughter or wife help out the poor old chap and make sure he has a warm bedroom? I have always thought Māori and Pacific Islanders could teach us pakeha a thing or two about care of our elders. Why are the media not following up on this?
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May 28, 2023 11:18am
- Ghost
  
  She doesn’t miss the point. The point is if you give the government and the media an inch they will run with it, Judith gave them an inch and they are slamming her for it. National and act need to be far more careful what they say because no matter what you may think about what they have said the media will twist and it and explode it into more.
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:22am
- cas
  
  The father lives with Arena!!!
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:34am
- nathie
  
  The other aspect to the Arena Williams’ sob-story that is being ignored is that she is probably making it up (aka telling a porkie).
  
  Her parents are more than likely doing rather well – having had esteemed careers and with having supportive whanau around them.
  
  What is it with Labour MP’s and porkies … and the MSM deflecting these porkies by trashing National/ACT instead?
  
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  May 28, 2023 11:44am
cas

I had a dream last night that all the Wellington buses had been withdrawn but cars couldn’t get anywhere because of the congestion with the cycle lanes.

A sad thing is that dreams sometimes come true.
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May 28, 2023 11:33am
- rouppe
  
  Had lunch at Brew Town today, then dropped someone at the airport.
  
  Three light phases to get through Melling. Slow, but not terrible at the Terrace Tunnel. Slow at the Basin. That pedestrian crossing had a red light but the only people I saw were on the other side of the road.
  
  Trip back out north just as slow…
  
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  May 28, 2023 6:22pm
kevn

Enjoy… Sean Plunkett.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4IdWvbwvgI
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May 28, 2023 11:46am
- vant
  
  So depressing hearing a young person spouting that kind of rubbish. What do schools teach our kids these days?
  
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  May 28, 2023 12:41pm
kevn

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May 28, 2023 12:24pm
Jethrod

In the Top Stories column there is a Guest post about the failing biology teaching in our secondary schools.
The column was originally written in 2021 but has-been recycled without any comments at all from DPF
And while it is extremely topical at the moment, as at 12 midday today not many have put any other comments on it.
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May 28, 2023 12:37pm
Master Mariner

A very good article explaining how misguided NZ Councils/Banks and Insurers are profiteering from your misery ( Or will do).

“But a key tenet of the scientific method is that novel claims have to be published in a credible, peer reviewed journal.

Only then should such scientific findings be relied upon, particularly by regulators. So, a disturbing feature of the current managed retreat policy discourse and coastal planning guidance generally, is the emergence of novel estimates of New Zealand-specific sea-level rise that have not passed the required academic peer review. ”
https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/121439/sean-rush-katharine-moody-say-nz-needs-be-more-realistic-when-it-comes-policy

Surely there must be some discourse for Legal Group action ?

“There will be consequences in the planning processes, but insurers are using this information today. While insurers generally write one-year policies, and slow progressive risks (such as sea-level rise) should be by and large, irrelevant, anecdotal evidence suggests they are already applying risk premiums to coastal properties in areas like those in Kāpiti’s adaption areas. Similarly, some banks are modelling climate risk, again, based on these “implausible” scenarios.”
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May 28, 2023 12:45pm
cmm

Yesterday I read this sad tale about the boy who drowned while snorkelling.

Unfortunately if you lead a rich, and mildly adventurous, life then there are risks and people will occasionally die or get life altering injuries. Same in many activities including cycling, sport, diving, sky diving,…

In my opinion as much safety as possible was considered and in place without outright banning outdoor activities. ie. a very reasonable amount.

They had had reasonable training. There were depth limits imposed, etc.

About the only factor that might have been missed is that fresh water diving is more dangerous than sea water diving and is more likely to cause death by drowning due to the way fresh water osmoses into the lung capillaries causing more rapid drowning. I would tend not to take unskilled divers into fresh water when NZ has a lot of seawater options.

But the coroner feels that adding yet another layer of bureaucracy will help and requiring safety plans etc is required.

More paperwork would not have made a jot of difference in this case and just adds another burden making it less likely that people will go outdoors.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/coroner-recommends-further-snorkelling-guidance-needed-after-16-year-old-ethan-fitzpatrick-drowned-on-school-trip/XLQH42NYEZHZPNFXBTJREP4SJY/
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May 28, 2023 12:55pm
Maggie Pie

Let’s see him try this up Liverpool Street 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/TimFWelch/status/1661921415963230209
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May 28, 2023 1:07pm
- jonno1
  
  What a wimp! At 14 I was a milkboy pushing around milk trolleys with 3 full-size metal crates. Tricky up and down hills (no brakes). But the hardest part was getting the paper tokens out of a wet bottle with frozen fingers. (My fingers, not those in the bottle).
  
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  May 28, 2023 1:51pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Guess who is a Great Grandpop?
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May 28, 2023 1:12pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Congratulations!
  
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  May 28, 2023 1:37pm
Maggie Pie

Sounds like National must have some sort of ‘death wish’?

My partner was telling me he watched Chis Bishop on Q&A this morning.
Apparently he told Jack Tame…. he would like to see the price of houses in Auckland drop by half over the next 20 years!

We had high-hopes for Bish….turns out he’s nothing but a commie as well 🙁
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May 28, 2023 1:39pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, I am starting to dislike these Chris people.
  
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  May 28, 2023 1:56pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And to make matters worse, apparently he told Jack…. he’d like to see the day when bene’s in Rotorua won’t need to live in motels and tents.
    
    Well what would make him think we want to see them up here?
    
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    May 28, 2023 2:14pm
- Mark Hanley
  
  I own a fair bit of property.
  
  If my sole aim is for me and my family to get richer, I’d disagree with bishop.
  
  As my aim is to live in a happy prosperous country with high social cohesion and low crime, then I agree with Bishop.
  
  House owners needn’t worry though, the least painful way out of the mess NZ is now in (thanks to the Labour hierarchy and the despicable NZ media), is to continue the current rampant immigration.
  
  House prices are heading up again by the end of this year.
  
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  May 28, 2023 3:14pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Um, Auckland is on THIS planet, not the one he comes from.
  
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  May 28, 2023 4:08pm
MCōs

Sounds like the Toronto mayoral race ain’t the bland affair our general election is turning out to be
https://twitter.com/canadianpolling/status/1662638079558012932?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
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May 28, 2023 3:01pm
MCōs

I’ve always thought all prisoners should be able to vote if they are citizens or residents.
We’re always hearing the winning PM say they will be the the PM for everyone
As it happens it’s not the case depending on length of sentence and the Nats & ACT want to tighten up restrictions.
Just imagine if they won the election, change the law and made it retroactive to before the election and subsequently lost the election.
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May 28, 2023 3:14pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Imagine
  
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  May 28, 2023 6:17pm
- cmm
  
  Crap idea.
  
  Prisioners have got there by making a long string of awful decisions.
  They make such bad decisions they cannot make decisions for themselves and they have to be kept locked away so that the state can make decisions for them.
  
  And you want them to make decisions impacting on OUR lives?
  
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  May 28, 2023 6:34pm
Maggie Pie

Since Labor WILL need The-Maori-Pardy to govern….it’s worth reiterating TMP’s ‘bottom lines’ 🙁

> Self governance
> Establish a Maori Parliament
> Officially change New Zealand’s name to Aotearoa
>End full & final Treaty settlements so they can be relitigated.

In the words of ACT leader David Seymour….
we will become like a big New Guinea.
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May 28, 2023 3:29pm
- cmm
  
  So… a vote for the Labour party, or Greens, is really a vote for the Maori party.
  
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  May 28, 2023 6:35pm
- cmm
  
  PS: What’s the maximum age for emigrating to Oz?
  
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  May 28, 2023 6:36pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    As a worker… 45 years old
    
    https://bravomigration.com.au/what-is-the-age-limit-to-migrate-to-australia-is-it-too-late/#:
    
    However, if you are an older NZer who has retired, you can move there….(especially if most of your family is already resident in Oz)
    
    https://www.movingtoaustralia.co.nz/australian-age-pension/
    
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    May 28, 2023 6:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

What is a Woman? Vid 2.51.

https://therightwingclub.com/realloadednews/womens-college-swim-champ-dares-congress-to-define-the-word-woman/

Jesus H Christ, I really don’t know how humans got this far with all of the stupid people tapping along. “This interview is now finished” How many times have we heard that?
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May 28, 2023 3:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Hunter is poor? Maybe he is a starving artist. I will tell you the Biden Trust Bank accounts and all of those ‘Companies’ that are businesses that make nothing, are not poor.

https://patriotsnewsstand.com/uniondailypost/hunter-biden-claims-poverty-while-spending-this-much-to-travel/?utm_placement=uniondailypost
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May 28, 2023 3:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Quite a while back there was a person on Kiwiblog, who was a Moderator I think, went by the handle of ‘Barman’ What happened to Batman?
Is he embarrassed about all of those far right wing extremist conspiracy things I post are actually true?
Just wanted to know.
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May 28, 2023 3:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

DeSantis says he will start to dismantle Deep State on day one.
Why not leave it to The Don? Deep State will shred him. Trump knows what this is all about. His biggest mistake was underestimating the Deep State of the last 60+ years.
Don’t forget, Trump was once a Democrat! Trump is also in a better financial state. I am sure he would not mind losing quite a few millions to MAGA. Patriot – not that Ron isn’t.

https://billingsreport.com/ron-desantis-says-he-will-begin-to-dismantle-the-deep-state-on-day-one/
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May 28, 2023 3:56pm
- Littletramp
  
  This is who the “Deep State” are, and once you read and absorb this, you can deduct why they will be so hard to dislodge.
  https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/27/the-thirst-for-truth-big-picture-explanation-of-what-happened-in-the-past-15-years-that-flipped-the-social-cultural-media-leftist-and-govt-relationship/
  
  The maori have already accomplished this strategy in NZ by getting their educated young into positions of power, administration, media and education then directing narrative.
  This article outlines how and when this happened in the USA.
  An ah-ha moment as to why the world seems upside down after reading this (15 min read) – hint – it is!
  
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  May 28, 2023 4:57pm
  - Littletramp
    
    Just look at Hamilton West candidate for National and tell me he isn’t another being slipped in to push the cause.
    They are in all parties now that the activists are actually in charge of this country.
    
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    May 28, 2023 5:03pm
Maggie Pie

So much for the First Amendment 🙁

Even the days of calling someone a ‘lard-arse’ might be numbered now as well…

https://rt.com/news/577007-us-nyc-weight-discrimination-law/
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May 28, 2023 4:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Have you seen those ‘lard-arse’ weightlifters?
  Best avoided, and that is just the ‘Women’ if you can define what a ‘Woman’ is.
  
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  May 28, 2023 4:11pm
greybeard

Is Emma Cook some sort of Sharon Murdoch alter-ego ?
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May 28, 2023 4:46pm
- PeterB
  
  3 years since they took out the trash.
  
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  May 28, 2023 6:25pm
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING….

George Floyd now clean of Fentanyl 3 years to the day.
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May 28, 2023 4:54pm
- kowtow
  
  And the BLM “charity” founders doing very well , thank you very much.
  
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  May 28, 2023 5:12pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP! Loved the hweadline on FOX…
    
    ‘BLACK LIVES MANOR’
    
    The founders had spent about $30 mil buying themselves mansions!
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    May 28, 2023 5:32pm
greybeard

Nice juxtaposition of articles on Stuff homepage today:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/300882200/lights-camera-attraction-melody-thomas-wants-you-to-have-better-sex
and
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/132158994/i-was-not-in-a-position-to-consent-the-mama-hooch-acquittal-causing-concern
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