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Souvlaki

[Mod – for the protection of this blog, until someone else can authenticate this story kiwiblog won’t be running that story, thanks]
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December 14, 2022 8:04am
- peterwn
  
  Whether the article is true or not – you do not bite the hand that feeds you.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:11am
- Chuck Bird
  
  [Mod – for the protection of this blog, until someone else can authenticate this story kiwiblog won’t be running that story, thanks]
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:37am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Joe and Hunter
    ‘Sniff and Snort’
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:28am
- Matt Long
  
  Is that because of the hard word from the politician’s office or just general prudence?
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:47am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    ” until someone else can authenticate this story ”
    
    Define authenticate.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:44pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Is there still a single source of truth? Asking for a friend.
      
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      May 15, 2023 7:21am
  - peterwn
    
    General prudence – to void a potential defamation suit you have to be able to show that the claim is true and that in many cases can be pretty difficult. In this case you would need to prove the item actually referred to a well known New Zealander and not someone who looks similar. And if you can meet that test you have to be able to show that the claims in the item are true. I doubt the item meets the tests and if I was a moderator I would not release it. Furthermore if I was in DPF’s shoes and if the writer of the comment had moderation bypass privilege I would seriously consider revoking the privilege (note – I do not have moderator bypass privilege). I would not want my wallet walloped.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:50pm
Warren

Is Michael Wood our Transport Minister the Prime Minister’s and Finance Ministers puppet and prepared to sell out New Zealander’s to remain in power.
Our Roads and Motorways are a disgrace in New Zealand and are just about as lethal as speed that the present Government would have you believe is responsible for most of deaths that have occurred on our roads since they became the Government.
‘Micheal Wood opens the door for road projects to be delayed, after ‘red’ warning they will go over budget.
The Transport Minister Michael Wood has left the door open to delaying the delivery of some of New Zealand’s most high profile roading projects, they include ‘re-scoping’ projects in the $8.7 billion NZ Upgrade Program.
This includes 19 high Profile Transport Programs that were announced back in 2020 but massive cost blowouts saw several axed in 2021dispite a $1.9 billion
cash injection.
This comes after a appeal to the Ombudsman that revealed of the project faced ‘red’ ratings for there potential to go over budget.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-opens-the-door-for-road-projects-to-be-delayed-after-red-warning-they-will-go-over-budget/J3VIBXDZRVEU7MRDZTEXLS4MRM/
This is becoming a big problem for with funds being announced for roading so. this Government can gloat on how much they are investing in our roads only to find out two or three years later this same money is now earmarked for another project to help this Labour Government get re-elected.
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May 14, 2023 8:01am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Time to get over ourselves and put in an order for some of Rolls Royces mini nuke plants. They could be sited around the country to supply regions with reliable energy. Forget wind and solar. Costs too much and unreliable and infrastructure has a short life.
  Greens and Maori wont allow any more hydro.
  Nuke is the way of the future.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:29am
  - Nickc2
    
    Without a doubt!
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:33am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Labour will oppose nuclear because it will be a National idea. Labour oppose because they oppose.
      Greens? Just ignore them. Idiots are best left alone. First words they will day are ‘Chernobyl’ and Fukishima. Try to explain SMRs is beyond them.
      NZ should have gone nuclear years ago, because no more hydro, wind is useless, and solar is useless.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:39am
      - Nickc2
        
        FYI, Westinghouse now marketing Small (Mini) reactors capable of powering 300,000 homes.
        https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/05/us-firm-westinghouse-announces-small-nuclear-reactor-to-power-300000-homes.html
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:43pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        10 for Auckland please. We don’t need 10 now, but we will need 15 by the time the Greens stop their nonsense.
        
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        May 14, 2023 4:08pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        What happens to these mini nukes when encased in molten lava?
        
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        May 15, 2023 4:37pm
  - jon
    
    ]Lastmanstanding the most sensible comment i ve seen on here for a while, well said!
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:59am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    put in au order for some of Rolls Royces mini nuke plants.
    
    Absolutely. What wait until they have established a track record of delivery schedules, cost and performance. Lead the world like we did with Motunui – the only gas-to-gasoline plant that Esso ever sold.
    
    Nuke is the way of the future
    
    Not wishing to rain on your parade, but some see it as the way of the past. More stations being decommissioned than built. After Three Mile Island the building of nukes in the USA came to a screeching halt. One could go on.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:05am
    - All_on_Red
      
      You could go on but you would be wrong.
      Many Countries are funding Research of SMR and have indicated they would place orders.
      Canada, UK, Italy, Poland, Hungary(?),Japan etc
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:32am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        The google machine has a lot of info on SMRs, where they are, where they are being built and where to kick off getting licensing.
        It is the word ‘nuclear’ that sets off the idiots rolling around on the floor.
        
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        May 14, 2023 10:43am
      - Ian Boag
        
        indicated they would place orders.
        
        And when they do – and when these things are shown to be the goods – we probably should join the queue. Probably have the first one on line sometime after 2040.
        
        I take it you would be all good with having one in your town ….
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:02am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Canada and Japan say within a Decade.
        Canada is sorting out Site Construction now.
        Given my ‘town’ is Auckland, having one at Huntly would work for me.
        You could hide under your bed though.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:23pm
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        Finland is about to commission its next nuclear power station too
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:33pm
    - sirknz
      
      I would be very happy to have several SMRs in my home town, even one big one nearby. If you’ve talked to anyone who has worked in the nuke industry, the safety features baked in to modern tech is amazing.
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:47am
      - Ian Boag
        
        There are of course two issues that have so far just been kicked down the road.
        
        The first one is the matter of waste. There has been all sorts of talk about turning it into glass and parking it in a hole in the ground that will be stable for the next few thousand years while it decays to safe levels. Not much of that has happened – lots of spent fuel sitting in cooling ponds waiting around.
        
        The US was going to put stuff into Yucca Mountain, but that idea fell over. The Germans started the process putting the stuff into salt domes and have had a change of heart. Some billions going to get it out.
        
        The “stable for a few thousand years” thing is a bit of a tall order so the can just gets kicked down the road.
        
        The second issue is what happens when the plant is decommissioned in 40-odd years time. There are some horror stories about the $$$ and time involved for the ones being decommissioned now. Basically a worn out plant turns into a heap of radioactive rubble. The Poms have decommissioned all their first generation Magnox plants – the general approach seems to be to close the gates, leave the place unmanned and wait 100 years or so. One of them came close to being a mini-Chernobyl when the water line to a cooling pond ruptured and was only discovered by chance.
        
        I’m not overly bothered by the thought of a nuclear accident killing people. Based on Windscale, Three Mile Island, Fukushima and even Chernobyl – not a lot of people would die from radiation. However stupendous amounts of money would be needed to clean up anything like this. Not an insurable risk, so cost would fall on gummint.
        
        Other than all that, we could just go for it. The downstream problems will be for my kids to worry about.
        
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        May 14, 2023 5:14pm
      - CJames
        
        Ian
        Yucca Mountain fell over because of Senator Harry Reid. Nothing scientific about the concerns. Just a god old Democrat Senator – one of Joe Biden’s mates.
        
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        May 14, 2023 9:07pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Nuke is the way of the future.’
    
    We have huge deposits of coal . Can be used for many many energy uses .
    
    Local , reliable , cheap , plentiful and best of all it’s a bio fuel !
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:14am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      We had a crazy PM who fucked that up, as well as oil and gas.
      I hope all of you leftie wanks are happy now.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:45am
  - Colville
    
    Unless a well managed education program is put in place for the sheeple nuclear has no chance until we have serious blackouts and by then its too late.
    We need a study done on the entire electricity sector looking forward for the next 50 years and that must recommend a further study be done on nuclear.
    So that is 6 years and by then a Labour government again. Then its dead until the Nats get back in.
    If Luxon announced we were to go Nuke in November of this year it would ensure they were a one term government.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:31pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    If the twits won’t allow more hydro they certainly won’t wear sub reactors and the like all over the place,
    
    NZ doesn’t actually need nukes and the waste disposal/processing issues.
    
    It has hydro and geothermal resources to keep it humming along for centuries. Screw the picky loons. They can’t have it both ways.
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:04pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    The key to safe cheap nuclear is it needs to be built on barges or ships that can be jacked up on seabed a few 10’s of km offshore – in water deeper than ice-age sea level. With reactor core at level below sea surface so natural thermal convection can provide all passive cooling that would ever be needed.
    
    That means:
    -build and decommission in specialized shipyards that can get advantages of limited mass production, and fuel and waste transport on specialized ship-tenders from international suppliers and disposal facilities – no domestic nuclear infrastructure needed.
    -far enough offshore to avoid tsunami or earthquake risk.
    -accidents, while still to be avoided will be quite rapidly cleaned up by natural diluting effects of ocean currents, inexhaustible ocean water provides assured cooling in event of problems
    -if civilisation were to fail we would not be left with a lethal radioactively contaminated dead-zone on land for 10’s of thousand of years – something we should probably seriously think about for land based reactors
    
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    May 14, 2023 2:36pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      That sounds sensible. if your country needs nuke power. I don’t think NZ does with it’s generous geothermal and hydro natural advantages. About as clean and green as the green whiners and doomers can get but they’ll still whinge and screech!
      
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      May 15, 2023 12:47pm
CJames

Interesting article on Newstalk: “After eight years, today marks the final day for the current CEO of the Electricity Network Association Graeme Peters, his final words being a warning that electricity bills will double within the next five years. Peters told Heather du Plessis-Allan that it’s due to decarbonizing, and the subsequent investment into infrastructure that will support electric vehicles.He says that the total cost will be around $22B over the next eight years, and it’s likely that this cost will be passed onto the consumers.”
So much for solar and wind being so much cheaper. The MW when they are generating might be, but that is only if you disregard the connection, grid expansion and backup generation costs. These make the unreliables very expensive. Note the costs don’t include the white elephant Onslow. $1B in interest payments (5% interest) over 2M customers is $500 a year & the capital payments are extra.
When will the Opposition get someone clued up enough on the technical details to ask the questions and spot the BS responses? (Remember, National spokespeople believe in the mantra too) Probably only as “me toos” after people start rebelling about their powerbills have gone up. By then it will be too late.
South Africa, we see you as the role model.
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May 14, 2023 8:01am
- CJames
  
  One thing people cannot comprehend is the resources and cost to electrify NZ to replace fossil fuels. Not not only will it need a trebling of the number of power stations and the grid, but the distribution network will need uprating. That is digging up all the underground power cables between your house and the grid exit point to put a lot bigger ones in, but replacing all the transformers, switchgear etc. Think of how hard that is going to be and the cost of that work. Don’t do it and you won’t be able to charge your EV and/or run your heatpump. Having 15 minute cities with all living in hovels will allow elites to enforce compliance.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:09am
  - Taieri
    
    You are being unduly pessimistic. The infrastructure is being renewed continuously and tirelessly. They’ve just replaced the red-stickered power pole outside of my house. After 8 years with the red sticker on it.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:27am
    - CJames
      
      There is a big difference between ongoing maintenance and uprating. At the very basic, they would need to double the size of the wires leading to your pole, plus put in extra poles or a more substatial one to carry the extra weight and tension.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:39am
      - Drone
        
        @CJames the upgrades don’t have to happen all at once it can be scheduled to happen over the next 20-30 years of Labour rulership..
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:04pm
      - CJames
        
        If they want to shut down all the thermal plant and ban ICEs, then they have to do it in the next eight years. But yes, on their track record, it will eight years and consultant megabucks to even get the working group report.
        
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        May 14, 2023 1:29pm
    - Keith White
      
      Red Stickers Matter!
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:45am
      - Colville
        
        Tell that to the people in Hawkes Bay who are wondering if red zoning is coming for them.
        
        Nothing in today’s funding announcement tho.
        
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        May 14, 2023 6:32pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It means we will have some serious power outages before anything is done.
    We are talking about decision makers who have never owned a business, so they know nothing about increasing infrastructure.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:50am
- CJames
  
  The Greens in the german government have destroyed their economy with high energy prices closing down the nukes and building more windmills, then burning Russian gas and reopening their coal plants as the unreliables didn’t work.. https://dailysceptic.org/2023/05/13/can-anyone-now-stop-the-greens-from-destroying-germany/
  What is to stop the Greens in a 3 headed monster (what was the three headed dog in Harry Potter?) of the next NZ government completing the job that Ms Woods has started here?
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:10am
  - kowtow
    
    It was Merkel who made the decision to close their nuclear stations.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:13am
    - Ian Boag
      
      They had – and still have – some very significant problems with nuclear waste ….
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:06am
      - kowtow
        
        Point ?
        
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        May 14, 2023 10:48am
    - CJames
      
      Yes Merkyl signed the closing. But she was following the advice of the energy Ministry which was mainly Green advisers
      https://www.eugyppius.com/p/a-vast-foreign-funded-climate-cabal?publication_id=268621&post_id=120973479&isFreemail=false
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:07am
      - kowtow
        
        Irrespective of her advisors it was still her Kaiser’s Kall .
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:02am
      - Jack5
        
        Germany has been re-opening its coal-fired generation plants.
        
        They burn brown coal – lignite. The millions of tonnes of that in Southland could generate all NZ’s electricity for five or so centuries.
        
        In Australia, Victoria has lignite-burning electricity generation, though it’s moving away from that source.
        
        War-time Germany, and trade-embargoed South Africa, also made petrol or diesel from lignite, though expensively.
        
        How annoying an NZ plant converting lignite into diesel would be for the Greenies. Too bad it will never be economic enough to happen.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:21pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I did read that Germany is getting power from France, yeah, nuclear powered France.
    You stupid stupid Greens!
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:53am
  - crikey
    
    CJames: Cerberus – (Greek mythology) usually portrayed as a 3-headed dog guarding the gates of hell to prevent the dead from leaving. Known for his capture by Hercules, the last of his 12 labours.
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:20am
    - CJames
      
      I think I much prefer “Fluffy”, acquired from some Greek fellow
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:59am
- krazykiwi
  
  One shouldn’t hold ones breath waiting for sense from Luxon on this topic. He is a manager and a follower, but not a leader. His team are fully paid up members of the Climate Catastrophe Clan, standing ready to implement ‘sensible’ de-carbonization policy so our journey back to the caves can be accomplished with minimal complaints from the masses.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:16am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    What did socialists light their houses with before candles?… Electricity.
    
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    May 14, 2023 8:40am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Candles are made from a bi-product of oil, but don’t tell the loopy ones.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:56am
      - Ehlana
        
        Ah, but before the evils of oil, candles were made from animal fats (beef, pig or sheep), beeswax, and various plant oils or waxes.
        
        Of course, in our new carbon free future, we won’t have cows, pigs or sheep. And using beeswax will be declared animal abuse, so … better start planting!
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:24am
      - Drone
        
        @Steve O – candles were made of Beeswax !!
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:08pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Elana,
        Yes, correct, but predominately bi-product of oil, same as vasiline.
        Beeswax is for trendsetters.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:47pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Drone,
        You are one of them, fight? A beeswax trendsetter.
        What scent do you like best?//
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:49pm
  - Paulus
    
    Correct, Luxon is an excellent experienced and proven Manager, which is what a good Team will need.
    Havn’t we had enough damage done by Prima Donnas ?
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:39am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Prima Donna. That is not her real name.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:58am
- herb1
  
  On top of this you need to add the cost of John Tamiheres “ we own the water” charges
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:20am
- Master Mariner
  
  Nothing to worry about, Blackrock will come to the rescue //.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:31am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  I heard that interview too! So, we are going to get reamed, good and hard.
  
  Fortunately encouraging pensioners to die in the cold in New Zealand will really show how much we care about the “climate emergency”!
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:35am
  - Ehlana
    
    The same pensioners we locked down to save?
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:25am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      You just keep your inconvenient truths to yourself, Ehlana!
      
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      May 14, 2023 12:56pm
- KH
  
  Electrify New Zealand is a great idea on the economics. Worth a vote for the Nats on that alone, despite them being a bit lefty for my taste.
  I live in the south, moving between two houses, one with a good but not major solar system. Over everything our power bill is much less than a grand a year. And many more units go out the gate than come in each year contributing to NZ.
  I also see huge infrastructure costs occuring from our current system. Strangely the negative people can’t even talk about that.
  The carbon thing is just a minor bonus.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:54am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    The grid can cope with a little bit of what you’re doing without getting messed up, but beyond a certain point (I think I’ve read it’s something like 30-40% ruinable) the grid stability is at risk. e.g. imagine how the system needs to respond if/when large amounts of solar stops producing because the clouds come over.
    And don’t forget, however much solar we have, we need that same amount in reliable generation to back it up when the sun doesn’t shine.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:25am
    - KH
      
      Yes. Let’s update the grid.
      The point you ignore is that the need for that, and for the things like Onslow come about from the current model. Not from the rise of EVs etc.
      Population growth, not EVs, is the main cost driver.
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:01am
      - Sacha
        
        Ah, so that’s why people are being encouraged to leave the country. There won’t be so much demand for infrastructure in the future.
        The years ahead are bright indeed.
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:39am
      - Chris Nisbet
        
        Eh? Why mention population growth and EVs? Was I making any comments/claims about either of them? I wasn’t ‘ignoring’ them, just responding to your comments about your solar panels – a different topic
        Population growth and EVs will absolutely add demand to the grid, both in terms of base load and peak demand. This will require additional work to make our grid able to cope.
        Lake Onslow – sheesh. It was determined to be uneconomic when it was only costed at $4bn – now it’s going to be 4 times that. There are better things we could spend our money on.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:24pm
  - Grunter
    
    KH – keep your savings from a lower power bill in bank account at the ready for when you need to replace your solar panels. At best they will last 20 years. After 10-12 years they will be performing at around 75% efficiency. Replacement costs will almost certainly be more than what you’ve saved.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:26am
    - CJames
      
      First good hailstorm and the solar panels are gone. Google the pictures
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:41am
    - Paulus
      
      I have seen that Turbine Power wind towers have a diesel motor to assist built in now.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:42am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        They have 80+ gallons of oil, and they do use oil which needs topping up, like a car.
        Oh, it is not vegetable oil.
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:06am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Need more wind turbine oil? Drill baby drill!😬
        
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        May 15, 2023 12:50pm
    - Taieri
      
      After 10-12 years they will be performing at around 75% efficiency
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      They are not performing at “around 75% efficiency” even when they are new. The best, experimental efficiency is currently at about 32%.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:47am
      - KH
        
        Funny that they are at four years now and that they are at advertised production still.
        Your “75%” is dodgy and your “32%” plain wrong.
        
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        May 14, 2023 10:55am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Sounds like “the vaccines are 95% effective” type marketing. Labour/greens by any chance?
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:03pm
      - CJames
        
        Their load or capacity factor is the 30-45% depending on where they were sited, and how good the wind was that year. Their blades deteriorate their performance as they age. At the end of 10-15 years, they are only getting about 75% of the power they would have in the same wind conditions than if their blades were new. That means their load factor drops. So operators either replace the blades or scrap the turbines, usually the latter.
        The blades are taken off, chopped into pieces, and buried in landfills as they can’t be recycled.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:05pm
      - Taieri
        
        Funny that they are at four years now and that they are at advertised production still.
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        Which is?
        
        Your “75%” is dodgy and your “32%” plain wrong
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        Care to elaborate?
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:42pm
      - CJames
        
        Taieri. Which plant? The output figures go up and down each year for older plants from the different wind flow conditions. I have all the production data constantly being refreshed on one of my work screens. Waipipi is currently the only one that ever makes rating. I also regularly go to an electrical workshop where they invariably have a halfdozen or so wind turbine generators on the floor to be rewound. You won’t get much electricity out of them.
        
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        May 14, 2023 1:36pm
      - Taieri
        
        CJames
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        I was replying to the post about solar panels not bird-killers.
        
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        May 14, 2023 3:20pm
    - MarkF
      
      Mine have been in 12 years and are still producing at the same rate as of installation. Just saying.
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:14am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        Cool, you are lucky or chose well. When I last costed it, it didn’t break even within the economic life of the panels (let alone the batteries). Good to see its working for you.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:38pm
  - marcw
    
    How effective will your solar system be when a 3 story 3 apartment complex is built on your Northern boundary? You will have no right to object. Both National and Labour approve of this.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:29am
    - KH
      
      And what if I had no solar system, and that 3 story building went up into my sunlight. Misery
      I would then be installing more heating and running it all the time.
      Now, what was your point again ?
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:05am
- backster
  
  It would seem prudent to place a hefty levy on the price of electric vehicles now.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:19am
  - Burtland
    
    the levy will be on the net tax payer – even Chelsea Sugar got a hand out.
    
    Whats worse there’s decarbonisation going on in the Heath System and half the costs are being carried by the Health Budget – apparently decarbonisation is more important than saving lives- thanks James Shaw
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:21pm
- kowtow
  
  When I hear “experts” talking about the requirement or need to “decarbonise” and moving vital infrastructure away from the coast due to climate catastrophism , I just wonder how much “expertise” there is .
  
  I think there’s a real need to call the guys with a straight jacket and these “experts” need to be put in a padded cell , for our safety .( along with the Pollies and anyone else who think the planet’s end is nigh on account of their new found Zealotry for this secular religion of theirs)
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:39am
  - Burtland
    
    the experts in your council are all following RCP8.5 which was been abandoned by the IPCC as unrealistic – it is used for council infrastructure regulations throughout NZ
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:26pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  One of the best things we could do for our country would be to build cheap, reliable energy generation.
  Instead, we’re intent on doing the opposite.
  Imagine if we were all able to stay warm/cool in our homes at little cost. Imagine if the price of energy was no big deal for businesses.
  Many of us are not going to have to imagine choosing between heating and eating though. Expensive energy will mean all the products we buy cost more than they otherwise would.
  The people inflicting expensive energy on us are not our friends.
  
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  May 14, 2023 2:30pm
- C-Town
  
  This current government has also made things worse for a lot of people by outlawing the low-user discount. They used the excuse of low-income families in uninsulated housing missing out. But those families are already getting Working for Families, older people get the winter bonus and all rentals are meant to be insulated now. So getting rid of the discount is purely ideological.
  
  This has been largely forgotten about by most people. If National want a better chance at being re-elected, they should restart this discount. The discount was originally introduced by the Helen Clark government, so it should attract plenty of support from former Labour voters. Its also a policy that would attract a lot of low and middle income workers, that national needs to attract.
  
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  May 14, 2023 3:14pm
CJames

Wasn’t the lowering of speed limits on roads supposed to reduce the fatals? Then how is the crashes on Friday night in Otahuhu and Otara explained? From all accounts, they were driving well over the existing speed limit. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/fatal-crash-one-person-killed-in-collision-in-otahuhu-auckland/RXQUVSNUZBHITLDQEOC7LA34KI/
So how will lowering the limit help if people are already disregarding current rules? There are no speed cameras units working there or then, any captured by fixed cameras are either stolen or don’t pay the fines, and cops can’t chase.
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May 14, 2023 8:01am
- G152
  
  It is inattention that kills.
  And speed a contributing factor.
  For example the autobahn
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:23am
  - Matt Long
    
    It’s negative acceleration that manly kills.
    
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    May 14, 2023 2:07pm
- CJames
  
  Another event the speed limits didn’t prevent.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-boy-racers-crash-on-quay-st-crowd-blocks-road/O3GIPCYTIBFIBGJGMWLBF7MDZM/
  And the police don’t seem to care.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:31am
  - backster
    
    Wrap around services needed for that driver.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:22am
- sirknz
  
  The cynical side of me only sees this as an opportunity for the government to increase revenue via speeding tickets to otherwise safe and law abiding drivers.
  
  It is also less hassle for the police as the general public are less likely to attack them than a ram raider or a gang member.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:47am
- kowtow
  
  It’s amazing that the ruling clique still don’t realise that it is only the law abiding who obey the law .
  
  Just look at the gun confiscations. They still say it’s all about making NZ “safe”.
  Can any reasonable NZer say they are safer now than 3 -4 years ago.
  
  As the bumper sticker philosopher said ” When you outlaw guns , only outlaws have guns”.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:17am
  - Nickc2
    
    Maybe if we offered the Gangs an all-expenses paid trip to Aust for a Warrior’s Rugby League game, they’d hand in their guns.
    The Govt believes it works for those who didn’t complete their Census Forms eh?
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:58am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      They will steal some guns and hand them in.
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:14am
    - Paulus
      
      And it is not confirmed that Tickets & KFC Vouchers to Warriors made any difference to Maori census – still well down again so we will never be knowing how many Maori there are in New Zealand.
      Which Politician decides the so called numbers – 16% as accepted currently possible but how many more Maori seats can be made up ?
      
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      May 14, 2023 1:21pm
- Sacha
  
  Who remembers speed ‘governors’ on cars?
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:43am
artemisia

Damien Grant today has coined a great new description – “the artfully unproductive”. Nice, and bet most of us have seen same. Often.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132022958/damien-grant-we-arent-in-a-cost-of-living-crisis-were-just-poor
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May 14, 2023 8:14am
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh, what great news….

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2305/S00090/milestone-reached-with-500th-fog-cannon-installed.htm

Labour’s lousy ability to catch criminals and protect small businesses is spun as an achievement
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May 14, 2023 8:21am
- Swifty
  
  It’s an admission they haven’t a clue what to do to treat the causes of crime.
  
  It’s Labour’s surrender flag.
  
  They’ve given up.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:30am
  - Paulus
    
    Conclusion NO CONSEQUENCES !
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:44am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  You do have to wonder what has happened when some cheap Michael Hill tat is worth risking your liberty for – but I guess they are “youths” so will never face any consequences.
  
  I guess issuing Dairy owners and Michael Hill franchise holders with pump action shotguns is out of the question?
  
  Would be cheaper than Fog cannons, and far more effective at deterring the charming youths involved…
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:09am
  - Taieri
    
    some cheap Michael Hill tat is worth risking your liberty for
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    Has anyone lost their liberty for robbing a Michel Hill store yet?
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:31am
- Philview
  
  I saw that story on TVNZ news last night that funding has been cut off to a drug rehab clinic because it was being funded from the proceeds from crime fund. The Government said the funds have been spent on fog cannons so no money left. I wondered if the $2 million paid to the Mongrel Mob came from that fund. Also now that catching criminals is a low priority probably no additional funds coming in.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:17am
- Nickc2
  
  It was reported on TV the other night that a recipient of the latest Ram-Raid had applied for a Fog Cannon but the application was denied because his shop had not yet been Ram-Raided.
  Who’s logic is that:
  a. The Police Commissioner’s,
  b. The Minister of Police’s, or
  c. Govt Bean Counters’?
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:24am
  - Ghost
    
    Also reported that the government has been taking the money for this from the crime fund, and one drug rehab that was funded through the crime fund has lost its funding.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:48am
  - Master Mariner
    
    D. Climate Minister.
    Sure as hell they will be using Co2 as a charge.
    Can anyone confirm ?
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:16am
    - Keith White
      
      E. “All of the above.”
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  $4000 subsidy is paid by the Net Taxpayer.
  Why not just provide dairy owners with guns. Sorts out the gene pool too.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:18am
Flossie

So Rachel Hunter is a grandmother. That’s really nice for her and her family. I have nothing against the woman, and don’t think she’s responsible for it, but is this really news worthy of a headline banner on a national newspaper ap?
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May 14, 2023 8:23am
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/marlborough-top-stories/132032822/labour-to-contest-national-stronghold-with-farming-stock-candidate

This is a puff piece for Labour’s recently selected candidate for the Kaikoura electorate.
It is a bit insulting that this candidate is using a claim that she is from “farming stock” to find favour with the voters.
Most actual farmers know that the Labour Party is unswervingly disruptive and disdainful towards farming, rural land use and rural communities (with certain exceptions).
I guess the candidate has to spin some connection to farming in what is essentially a scattered, primary producing area – but my advice to her would be to not claim to support farmers for electioneering purposes.
We are not that dumb.
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May 14, 2023 8:23am
- Hacked-Off
  
  The problem is Gravelroad, Labour do think we are that dumb.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:31am
  - Ghost
    
    Maybe farmers are dumb, after all they voted labour to keep greens out. Hmm how did that work out, still have green ministers
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:43am
    - Matt Long
      
      Anyone with that idea is indeed not the sharpest spoon in the drawer.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:57am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The power of the Party Vote. So this time Party Vote Act.
      
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      May 14, 2023 11:20am
      - Ghost
        
        Pass, no intention of giving a vote to Seymour
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:39am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I will Party Vote Act. David Seymour has matured Politically over the years.
        
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        May 14, 2023 12:53pm
- Swifty
  
  Same as Tinetti’s background being sold by Labour as her ‘being ideally placed to address problems in education….’
  
  Not solve. Not fix. Not shoot us to the top of the OECD. No, nothing even close.
  
  Just ‘address’.
  
  Years ago I used to fall for this guff, not understanding the weaselness of their very deliberate choice of words.
  
  Not any more.
  
  I just wish more New Zealanders would do the same. We’d all be a lot better off.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She is as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:23am
    - Opie
      
      Or a chocolate kettle
      
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      May 14, 2023 2:52pm
- CJames
  
  She might come from a farming family, but she works at home as a planning person for a Regional Council the other end of the island. That is where all the restrictions on farming come from, the regional plan.
  Talk about being tone deaf to the community concerns.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:36am
  - kowtow
    
    Helen Clark was from farming stock.
    
    I rest my case.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:20am
    - Matt Long
      
      All sorts of criminals and low lifes come from farming stock, it’s just another form of identity politics.
      
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      May 14, 2023 9:57am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      So was Ardern, both sides grand parents where large scale farmers
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:28am
- Ruawai
  
  Many farmers voted for the current government.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:37am
  - Matt Long
    
    Many, as in five percent?
    It’s hard to imagine too many turkeys voting for Christmas.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:01am
  - notreadyet
    
    not entirely sure about that, take for example the eastern waikato that has 3 towns that service the rual sector, 5 dairy factories, several freezing works and the town folk vastly out numbering the actual farmers. The increased labour vote in rual areas like that came from the urban areas with a highly unionized dairy and meatworkers union.
    many would not think that voting left wouldnt stop to think that it was biting the hand that feeds them
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:45am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      I have found many of the dairy factory workers in east Waikato to be National type people. The freezing workers; I don’t know.
      
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      May 14, 2023 1:50pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    IMO it was female farmers, party vote, doing their bit to save the planet. Trouble was too many, that’s why we have fruit loops in the Greens.
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:28am
- Paulus
  
  It is said that Ardern got the Farm votes last time – more fools them !
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:45am
KH

He’s right. We are indeed just poor.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132022958/damien-grant-we-arent-in-a-cost-of-living-crisis-were-just-poor
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May 14, 2023 8:36am
krazykiwi

More madness: Over 100 carparks to be removed for new cycleway outside Parliament. Still, Wellingtonians voted for brain dead Green leadership and this is the logical progression. I note they managed to find a supporter: a thirteen year old girl who ‘feels unsafe’ riding her bike to school. I have a suggestion for her: ride recreationally at the weekend and use the school bus during the week.
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May 14, 2023 8:36am
- Kumbukani Obi
  
  “a thirteen year old girl who ‘feels unsafe’ riding her bike to school.”
  
  She is a “Year 13” student so will be 17 or 18 years old. By the time the cycleway is operating she will have left school.
  
  The person running the hairdressing salon is correct. Her business will fold. The women who go there are not going to ride a bike or catch a bus. They will just find another hairdresser. Her business is doomed.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:05am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Correct. But the Feelz win!
    
    For shits and giggles, try parking outside the hospital if you have an appointment for a procedure – the carparks are now a cycleway.
    
    Sick people are well known for their love of cycling through Newtown in the rain!
    
    Wellington is a zombie city and the Mayor and her green cronies are dancing on its grave.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:12am
    - Drone
      
      But when it truly dies Nirvana will arise from the ashes..
      
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      May 14, 2023 12:22pm
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    On the upside, suburban centres are reviving since COVID.
    
    It turns out that if Wellington hates you for wanting to use your car, there are choices, and given the choice, no sane human would want to go into town if they can possibly avoid it.
    
    Of course, this is a compounding death spiral, and it’s picking up speed. Count the empty shops in the “golden” mile.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    In the vid she didn’t look 17 – 18 to me. Typo I think.
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:35am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Year 13. My error. Thanks for correcting.
    
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    May 14, 2023 4:01pm
- Opie
  
  You can’t even drive around in wellington any more, lanes turn into cycle lanes or bus lanes with no warning, just marked over the top so you can see both sets of paint.
  
  Wellington. Designed by morons, for morons. Led by a green activist moron.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:36am
  - MCōs
    
    Wellington was designed by some fool in the UK in the 19th century who thought the place was flat and didn’t know cars were on the horizon.
    A lot of the sections & houses were/are tiny so people could walk to work
    I owned a house in the top end of Dixon St near the Terrace years ago. Dixon St is a straight line on the map, but to get to the other end at Taranaki St you certainly can’t drive.
    A lot of those street were never meant for cars, but we’ve turned into slobs in the interim.
    As it happened I worked in an office block just down the steps. The kids very quickly got used to life in the biggish city.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:25am
Maggy Wassilieff

Are Asian women second-class citizens in our Health service?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/489847/questions-raised-after-asian-women-lowered-in-priority-for-health-screening
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May 14, 2023 8:40am
- Swifty
  
  I saw that.
  
  Yea, if funds remain the same, for every one person you advantage by race you must disadvantage one person by race.
  
  Prioritising by race is a recipe for rancour and division and it will fill otherwise amiable people with resentment, disdain and mistrust.
  
  It’s only a matter of time.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:52am
  - Flossie
    
    Sat with my partner outside the urologist’s office at a public hospital. Got chatting with a brown skinned man also waiting. Length of time my man had waited for his appointment (many months) came up in the conversation and our companion said he’d only waited a couple of weeks. Probably because they’re putting us Maoris at the top of the list he said.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:37am
    - Ghost
      
      Or because he was an urgent case.
      
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      May 14, 2023 10:48am
      - KH
        
        Medical specialist friend was specifically told to reprioritise his list on a racial basis.
        It’s happening in New Zealand.
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:11am
      - Ghost
        
        Orthopedic surgeon that we know says he works on the points system and race does not come into it
        
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        May 14, 2023 11:19am
- KH
  
  So are white ones.
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:55am
- Kumbukani Obi
  
  “Currently, no Asians have been appointed to Health New Zealand’s 51 leadership and interim leadership positions across the country.”
  
  Asians are a higher percentage of the population than Maori.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:08am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    to ask the question is to answer it, comrade!
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:15am
  - Paulus
    
    And given the immigration projection the Asian Community, principally led by those from what is called the Indian Sub Continent, will soon overtake such as Maori, as we donot knowtheir actual correct number as both recent Cencuses are incomplete with very low votes so far received, so it is calculated guesswork.
    Who say Maori are 16% ? – I would say at least 51% most of the media time.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yeah, but do Asians own the water?//
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:42am
- Philview
  
  The media have generally applauded the Labour Government’s shift to a racial equity based healthcare model. You can’t have a hierarchy of races with everybody at the top. I have private medical insurance thank goodness.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:11am
  - Keith White
    
    Well, Phil: there is a hierarchy already in longstanding practice but I’m sure you know that.
    
    FWIW, doing many years of outpatient clinics, mostly but not always fracture follow-up clinics, educated my team and I on what I shall now call for the purposes of this brief rant, a Reliability Index of Attenders (RIA)
    
    Most reliable by far: older, usually rural, invariably married, had to come a long way, sometimes had to get a lift or a bus or both = in combination, best we book them mid-morning to give them time to get here because they’d be mortified if they were late, even if the course was force majeure. Which it would be for those couples.
    
    Next most reliable: mother and/or father, bringing their children, or husband bringing the wife. Not saying that wives wouldn’t try to get their husbands to turn up on time, but the husbands often had employment they thought they couldn’t afford to miss. Especially small business owners/ the self-employed. Wives tended to be much more pragmatic about employment, and would ask for time off and generally get it. Husbands, often more proud than to ask.
    
    Next most reliable: what I would call older-style single mothers. Often widowed, or divorced not of their choosing, or husbands overseas / in military / on ships / on other assignments. Did their very best to turn up on time but had issues with limited budget for cars and bus trips and getting other children off to school.
    
    Common to the above three groups: if they were going to be late or had to miss they would ring so we could call in someone of the waitlist.
    
    Next, less reliable: younger, single women.
    
    Next, even less reliable: younger, single men.
    
    Common to the above two groups: if they missed the appointment it would be hit and miss as to whether they called in, but as partial compensation they wouldn’t turn up the next day or the next week demanding to be seen RBN (Right Bloody Now).
    
    The most unreliable: inner-city ferals. No needs to define that group further. IYKWIMAITYD.
    
    Common to the feral group: they simply didn’t seem to care enough about their children enough to turn up on time or if it was their male-female partner, they didn’t seem to care about their partner anywhere near as much as they cared about demanding to be seen RBN – even though they had missed usually three previous appointments and if a fracture, the plaster was absolute filthy crumble from inappropriate care and weightbearing and the fracture could be misaligned or unhealed or even osteomyelitic. If so, it was of course ‘youse b*****ds’ fault.”
    
    I don’t miss those days as much as I thought I would, actually, because of the last group.
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:13pm
- Scooter
  
  But just above European women who don’t seem to count. Great fair country we live in.
  
  Co-convenor Barbara Robson said historically Asian women have been a priority, along with Māori and Pacific women, and the move doesn’t make sense when there are just as many Asian as Pacific women (40,000 for each cohort for February this year) who need to be screened to achieve equity.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:51am
  - Paulus
    
    It would not surprise me to find that many of Asian ethnicity have Medical Insurance too.
    Make premiums tax deductible and that could make non insureds (indigenous persons) better off.
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:27pm
- Grunter
  
  The answer is simple, just change your health record to “NZ Māori”. If we all do it then we are all prioritised.
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:31am
Swifty

I’ve woken up with such hope for New Zealand’s future:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=322048822870020&set=a.119186009822970&type=3&mibextid=qC1gEa

I know we’re in such good hands.
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May 14, 2023 8:42am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Any other source than a far-left corporate surveillance platform?
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:48pm
Tomtoddy

Logic and common sense, at government level, is dead. Stone dead. Here is an example. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commissioners giving evidence to the Senate said “the U.S. electric grid is “heading for a very catastrophic situation in terms of reliability.” Commissioner James Danly, averred that there is a “looming reliability crisis in our electricity markets.” They said, “we need to keep coal for the foreseeable future”.

Under sleepy Joe’s direction the EPA then went out and demanded all coal and gas stations reduce emissions by 90% or close. They knew 90% is impossible. Coal and gas provide 60% of USA electricity.

Yep, braindead, illogical, crazed idiots.
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May 14, 2023 8:48am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Coming here too.
  
  The outgoing head of the EA has been very clear, to achieve NZs “decarbonisation” targets, power prices will double over the next five years.
  
  Yay! Thank you Labour! Thank you Winston!
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Worldwide the Elites have bought into “decarbonising” , not just Labour types.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:09am
  - Paulus
    
    Don’t worry Grant will print more money to pay for the higher bills if he gets back (doubtful).
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:52am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Tax fixes everything.
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:47am
Keith White

Sell it for easy profit and lovely Schadenfreude versus the palefaced net-taxpayers.
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May 14, 2023 8:49am
Maggy Wassilieff

What are Maori proposing to do with their “gift” of the C-Spectrum?

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2023/05/12/maori-havent-been-given-half-of-the-3-5ghz-spectrum-allocated-today-but-a-30-per-cent-share-doesnt-seem-too-paltry/

In May 2023, the Government announced that contracts had been signed with New Zealand’s major telecommunications network operators – Spark, 2Degrees and One New Zealand to accelerate the roll-out of 5G services to small towns across New Zealand and improve rural connectivity.

The details of this agreement include:

New Zealand’s 3 mobile network operators (MNOs) each receiving 80 MHz of spectrum in the 3.5GHz band. This is sufficient radio spectrum for all three MNOs to operate nation-wide 5G networks.

The Interim Māori Spectrum Commission receiving 100 MHz of spectrum. The Interim Māori Spectrum Commission will manage this spectrum, on behalf of all Māori.

https://www.rsm.govt.nz/projects-and-auctions/current-projects/preparing-for-5g-in-new-zealand/#bookmark1
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May 14, 2023 8:50am
- Dougal10
  
  They will be able to on sell this 100MHz to foreign interests and it will absolve the govt of cries about selling out our assets . Its all about 2 degrees of separation for civil servants and pollies.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:06am
  - kowtow
    
    A bit like how gubmints gave fish quotas over . The idea being that Maoris would get involved bigly in the fishing industry /associated trades .
    
    Now we have Russian , Korean etc virtual slavery filling the roles.
    
    “Hi I’m from the govt and I’m here to help”.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:57am
- Nickc2
  
  No doubt Maori will have veto rights over decisions made by those administering eighty percent of the spectrum.
  Why were Maori gifted a thirty percent holding in the first place? It’s not like the settlers stole Maori’s Frequency Spectrum eh?
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:08am
- Cassandra
  
  Where’s my allocation? This racism has got to be terminated. Why is there a Maori Spectrum Commission and not a Samoan, Cornish or Greek one? Or much better, no Commissions based on race.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:09am
  - Flossie
    
    You know very well it’s because they aren’t indigenous! That is to say, they weren’t first to set up camp here like our “indigenous people” were.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:20am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Spectrum is clearly a Taonga, and traditionally Maori used it to communicate across long distances, before the colonial settlers stole it from them.
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:19am
  - Kumbukani Obi
    
    “Māori claimed ownership rights to spectrum, on the basis that spectrum is a taonga, part of their estates and properties, and that their tino rangatiratanga was guaranteed by the Treaty of Waitangi.”
    
    https://e-tangata.co.nz/media/what-is-spectrum-and-why-should-maori-care/
    
    The claim deserved to be ridiculed. But that did not happen, allowing ramping up of future madness.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:05am
- Drone
  
  Aw @Maggie did you not realise that you are about to fund a new soon-to-be-launched cellular company called Kiwiphone that will use that wonderful cellular spectrum..
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:32am
- Ghost
  
  Don’t Māori still own part of 2degrees?
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:44am
- Yvette
  
  The Māori Spectrum Working Group (MSWG) was established in May 2019 to secure Māori rights and interests in the telecommunications spectrum, to negotiate with the Crown, Māori, and the telecommunications sector, and to develop an enduring solution that will ultimately hold and manage those interests
  https://www.maorispectrum.nz
  
  Connecting Māori to spectrum opportunities.
  https://www.imsc.nz
  
  It seems that telecommunication companies (non-Maori) pay for spectrum
  If this is correct, what do Maori pay?
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:54am
  - kowtow
    
    So the Crown set up a group of Maoris to negotiate with the Crown and other Maoris over something the Crown already owned.
    
    We really are on a spectrum, of retardation.
    
    People’s Front for the Liberation of Judea and all that.
    
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    May 14, 2023 10:02am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maori will pay nothing. We will pay for the privilege of giving it to them.
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:54am
- Ipanema69
  
  Hi Maggy,
  
  I can precisely answer that question.
  
  There was an interim allocation of the C Band spectrum (3400MHz to 3800MHz) in late 2020.
  
  During this allocation process Spark & 2degrees were allocated 60MHz of spectrum each. Vodafone (now One NZ) received about 40MHz. The IMSC received 50MHz.
  
  Since the interim allocations were made more than 2 years ago the register of radio frequencies shows the following information.
  
  1) Spark has licensed 425 5G base stations in their interim spectrum.
  
  2) One NZ (previously Vodafone) has licensed 544 5G base stations in their interim spectrum.
  
  3) 2degrees has licensed 244 5G base stations in their interim spectrum.
  
  4) The IMSC has licensed 4 locations in their interim spectrum. It can’t be determined from the license what type of equipment has been deployed. The licenses fields relating to antenna and equipment type state “unknown”. The structure of the licenses would suggest that it’s basically being used form somethin akin to home “Wi-Fi”.
  
  In short the spectrum has basically been idle for the last couple of years.
  
  It will be interesting to see what the IMSC does with the full 100MHz which becomes available on 01-Jul-23.
  
  I suspect it will eventually be leased out to the incumbent cellular operators. In a similar manner to the fishing quota’s.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:46am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Txs.
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:36pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear,

It appears Jacinda Ardern’s world-leading “wellness” budgets were just puffs of hot-air.

When Jacinda Ardern unveiled her ‘Wellbeing Budget’ in 2019 the world took notice.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/experts-worried-government-falling-behind-on-wellbeing-budget-goals.html
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May 14, 2023 9:13am
- Kumbukani Obi
  
  It is just another example of industrial scale gaslighting. I trust that the next Government will consign ‘wellbeing’ Budgets to the dustbin of history, and will instruct the Treasury to produce advice on how to maximise the growth in GDP per capita.
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:01am
Tony Stuart

Ohariu MP Greg O’Connor is in the gun for xenophobic comments made to a Sri Lankan family in the electorate:

https://twitter.com/lachlanp_/status/1656770031060148224

Perhaps O’Connor, emboldened by other MP’s who have defected from their parties in recent weeks is seeking to bail out without enacting the waka jumping rules. Maybe he’s considering a jump to NZ First, where xenophobia is not just tolerated, but is actively modeled by the party’s leader!
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May 14, 2023 9:20am
- Paulus
  
  I suspect O’Connor will be on the dole come election evening.
  Nobody will have him anyway.
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:55am
- Che Guava
  
  Yeah, but O’Connor is 100% right – in general terms, those sorts of attitudes and practices permeate the cultures in places like Sri Lanka, India, or China and in other parts of Asia. They continue when they get to places like New Zealand. Is this desirable? I wouldn’t have thought so.
  
  Sometimes, political opponents express exactly the right thing, and shouldn’t be denounced for it, in the misguided hope that a leftist deviating from a leftist dogma should be pointed out for their hypocrisy. Why? To gain cheap points and acceptance from leftist-progressives?
  
  This reminds me of stupid Republicans who criticise Biden as “racist” for his support of the 1994 crime bill that got very tough on Black criminals. You then get calls of “See – the Democrats are the real racists!” in 2023, when that 1990s bill is exactly the sort of policy that Republicans should be advocating nowadays.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “You’re not in Guatemala now, Dr Ropata”
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:05pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Drawing a long bow with the over-used “xenophobia” tag there.
  
  Click on the guy posting this stuff. Hmmm.
  
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  May 14, 2023 1:12pm
ClanMcleod

So I got an email from Seymour or someone in his office, deliberately spinning the same line as the government. That NZ has had negative excess mortality over the last 3 years, ergo there is no excess mortality trend to see.
It’s the best example of disinformation you will ever see. By factoring in 2020 and a substantial part of 2021 when we were locked up and hiding from the bogeyman and of course all cause mortality dropped for obvious reasons, it makes the numbers look great.
But take the numbers since lockdowns were rolled back and the vaccinated numbers started to climb and it is a completely different story. Excess mortality running at around 18%. These are provably not covid deaths.

The good news for me is that I can now write ACT off my election wish list. I can forgive some things, but being lied to isn’t one of them.
The good news for Act is, I’m only one voter. Apparently.

Have fun at the election Mr Seymour.
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May 14, 2023 9:23am
- Drone
  
  Two @Clan..
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:36am
- notreadyet
  
  I’m a past Act voter and feel the same way, very conflicted by the liberal component of Act that supposed to be more for the right, only problem is a vote for them is more likely to deliver a right leaning Govt than a possible wasted bote for a small party,
  problem is a vote for them is taken by them as full approval of their policies
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:51am
  - Flossie
    
    So how is that different from any other party?
    
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    May 14, 2023 11:33am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Exactly. This is an incredible situation. It is known now without a shred of doubt that the vaccines don’t work and that mandates were unconstitutional. 30% of people in NZ supported the protesters on Wellington. Yet not one single MP in Parliament speaks in support of this very large group of people?
      That’s impossible in a functioning democracy.
      ACT and National still have time to harness this support. All they have to do is acknowledge the mistake they made in supporting the trashing of human rights and supporting mandates. They can explain they were lied to as the rest of us were. A guaranteed bump in the polls and a guaranteed win at the election.
      Many Maori Party supporters were negatively affected too.
      Whoever acknowledges these people first still get their vote. At this stage Winston is looking most likely.
      
      You reap what you sow.
      
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      May 15, 2023 7:44am
  - Bridgenag
    
    At the end of the day he is just passed the centre and has lost me because of the treatment to the brave crowd in Wellington [ called the river of filth ] and his moronic agreeing to the mandates. We have no one on the right. Just weak morons trying to get our vote.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:30pm
- rouppe
  
  In favor of whom?
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:13am
- kevn
  
  @Clan… Same here. I did hold ‘some’ hope in ACT but seymour has extinguished that hope with his latest deny, deny, deny stance.
  Bad decision and strategy seymour.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:54am
- Ghost
  
  I know a few long time act supporters that will never vote act again with David as leader.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:58am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    As long as they vote National I don’t care.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:15pm
- Ipanema69
  
  Hi Clan,
  
  I’m not going to get into an argument about excess mortality or anything to do with Covid with you.
  
  Frankly I don’t think that any of the current government policies to do with Covid have aged well.
  
  My local supermarket has a gap in the isle that allows you to access the main supermarket without going through the entire fruit and vege section when you enter. It was blocked during covid for “safety” reasons. I bumped into a guy going through it the other day. We both apologized and then I said do you remember when it was “too dangerous” to go through here, he responded with yes “bloody ridiculous wasn’t it”.
  
  That all being said your current voting options are either:
  
  A) Hold your nose and vote ACT being the only party that wants to at least try and reduce the size of government.
  
  B) Hold your nose and vote National and get a party that would at least bring competence back to the government.
  
  C) Outsource your voting power to Winston and have no control as to what happens.
  
  Anything else including sitting at home and doing nothing just increases the chance of another term of Labour.
  
  I personally don’t like all of ACT’s policies. I have a quite fundamental disagreement on assisted suicide. However I’m not going to go into a petulant funk and not vote for Act on this point alone. Or to quote Bill Maher you don’t get anywhere politically by disagreeing with people who agree with you on 80% of the issues.
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:08pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Exactly. This is an incredible situation. It is known now without a shred of doubt that the vaccines don’t work and that mandates were unconstitutional. 30% of people in NZ supported the protesters on Wellington. Yet not one single MP in Parliament speaks in support of this very large group of people?
    That’s impossible in a functioning democracy.
    ACT and National still have time to harness this support. All they have to do is acknowledge the mistake they made in supporting the trashing of human rights and supporting mandates. They can explain they were lied to as the rest of us were. A guaranteed bump in the polls and a guaranteed win at the election.
    Many Maori Party supporters were negatively affected too.
    Whoever acknowledges these people first still get their vote. At this stage Winston is looking most likely.
    
    You reap what you sow.
    
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    May 15, 2023 7:48am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Ipanema69 – I understand the point you’re trying to make and I am making every effort to accommodate a change of government. Firstly, this last 3 years was far bigger than just a single issue like most things are. I’ve voted for almost 50 years and there has never been an election when I didn’t disagree with some of the policies of the party or person I voted for. Covid was more than a “policy”.
    
    AlsoSeymour replied by insulting me and others sayng our position was “lunacy”. He didn’t address the data he was presented with, instead he offered a deliberately contrived chart that has also been used by the government to imply that NZ isn’t having excess mortality.
    It isn’t a lie the way it is presented but it is the clearest example of disinformation you will ever see.
    Seymour did this either deliberately or he is an idiot.
    
    I believe it was deliberate because he was given all the evidence he needed to clearly show that excess mortality is high since the jabs were rolled out. He didn’t attempt to debunk the evidence.
    
    I can’t vote for a liar or an idiot. Not on an issue as big as this one was and is.
    
    I’m hoping National step up.
    
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    May 15, 2023 8:00am
Maggie Pie

Only just back from Mass. Ment to mention this yesterday actually…..

On the way home from Newmarket, spotted one of those big ‘suckey-trucks’ on Remuera Rd cleaning out the roadside drains. I hear Mayor Wayne has reinstated the service. Praise the Lord.

Apparently, it was Phil Goff who 4 years ago, cancelled the contractor engaged on the work….as a ‘cost-saving’ measure!

Yet here he is today, rewarded with continuing to sit on his shiny-arse, living like a king in our London Embassy, while pulling 700k (plus perks) off the NZ taxpayer.
Meantime, thousands of poor Aucklanders are STILL trying to remove mud and debris from their flooded homes….. all thanks to Goof’s incompetence.

And people still want to vote for socialist pr*cks like this. SHEESH!!
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May 14, 2023 9:46am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Well cleaning the storm water drains is clearly just a waste! What could possibly go wrong?
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:25am
- Paulus
  
  Awaiting snswer as am told that Goff was going to Washington as our Ambassador – he quietly said so.
  So why was this appointment vetoed, normally they are approved, as is by the Americans ?
  automatically approved – so Senior London Professional gets to go to Washington and Goff gets London.
  Since then he gets f,up not believing the Aotearoa has a King from Huntly.
  What a con !
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:01am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    To ask is to answer it comrade.
    
    Perhaps the Americans remember his behaviour during the vietnam war – spitting on returning soldiers, or his support for anti-nuclear when a junior Minister under Lange?
    
    Or maybe he was always earmarked for the UK?
    
    At least he went to the ANZAC day ceremonies, unlike that clown Hunt who wouldn’t get out of his car because it was raining!
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:34pm
  - Ghost
    
    He denied those rumors
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mayor-phil-goff-responds-to-rumours-hell-be-next-ambassador-to-the-united-states/67OR3JZW6DS7ZJHZA2K5JK33PY/
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:40pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  “Only just back from Mass.”
  
  Next minute:
  
  “Yet here he is today, rewarded with continuing to sit on his shiny-arse.”
  
  Ten Hail Marys and an extra confessional to put right the swearing demerit points?😃
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:32pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/another-great-meeting-in-tauranga-last-night-again/

Letter from Sir Roger Douglas and a reply.
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May 14, 2023 10:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Meeting today in Hamilton. Horsham Downs Hall, 3pm.
  
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  May 14, 2023 10:18am
Maggie Pie

“Racism is not dead, but it is on life support.
It’s being kept alive by left wing politicians,
race hustlers, and people who get a sense
of superiority by denouncing others as racists”

– Thomas Sowell
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May 14, 2023 10:25am
- sirknz
  
  Ah yes, Thomas Sowell, the black face of white supremacy…
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:18pm
  - Swifty
    
    Are you serious?
    
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    May 14, 2023 2:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Did not know Thomas Sowell had been to NZ.
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:20pm
  - Swifty
    
    Did you know that he has?
    
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    May 14, 2023 1:32pm
kowtow

Here we go ,again.

The perpetrator as victim. It really is a parody.

‘Judge Emma Smith said Matama Tama Tahiri (33), who appeared in the Dunedin District Court this week, was “as much a victim, as well as a perpetrator of violence” .’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/one-last-chance-man-who-punched-pregnant-partner
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May 14, 2023 10:58am
- Swifty
  
  Those damn white cis-men.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:18am
- Che Guava
  
  Actually, the judge said that “this is probably the last time you will get a sentence designed to rehabilitate you.”
  
  What’s more, the female victim will stay with him, “expressing a desire to make the relationship work in order for Tahiri to be the best father to his child, the court heard.”
  
  Our society could be infinitely better, much more coherent and extremely safe, if only there was a will to make it so. But the institutions simply don’t want to do the things that would bring about this outcome, because it would be too “unkind” to the minority who drag society down.
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:41am
- Maggie Pie
  
  https://twitter.com/MeusliC/status/1649242119712960513
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I have seen this first hand when I was 15. Guy punched her in the face, then kicked her in the stomach. She lost the baby in the ambulance.
  Frightening when you are 15. I still remember his name, and he was never charged.
  This was 1967.
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:25pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    it happened in our family owned snooker room. He would not go home. Long dead now I hope. A pox on you, you bastard.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:59pm
Hugh Jarse

Noted our local supermarket has now had concrete blocks placed across the frontage presumably to deter ram raids. They obviously don’t feel as safe as Ginny Anderson proclaims.
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May 14, 2023 11:12am
- Che Guava
  
  OK. So concrete blocks installed to deter ram raids is a clear acknowledgement of a serious problem – what do any of the hopefuls in the coming election intend to do about it?
  
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  May 14, 2023 11:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  i have heard of one ram raid with a digger! Dunno where.
  
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  May 14, 2023 12:27pm
  - kevn
    
    @SteveO… That happened in Murupara about 12 months ago.
    
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    May 14, 2023 12:52pm
Yvette

Labour seems to in many things be trying to raise up a Maori Elite group – which should be as against Race Relations law as running-down any ethnic group – but at the same time has not raised up Maori who unfortunately appear to occupy the lower social statistics.

Kelvin Davis has said “Māori are more likely to be overweight, depressed, homeless, incarcerated and uneducated according to these disturbing statistics produced under National’s watch” [1]

Davis was mentioning this for cheap political gain, but in near six years his Government has done little to change “these disturbing statistics”
And he and Labour want Maori 50/50 governance in running the country?

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[1] https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00255/no-mana-for-maori.htm
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May 14, 2023 11:16am
- kowtow
  
  I’m a wee bit surprised that a Taffy lad can get away without being cancelled for such a racist generalisation.
  
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  May 14, 2023 1:08pm
Rusty

One of the All Blacks greatest ever backs has passed away Bruce Robertson 1972-1981 aged 71.

Only a lean guy but a superb runner and defender at centre who played 34 tests for the ABs.

If I was to compare him to someone in the modern game probably Conrad Smith had a similar style.

RIP
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May 14, 2023 11:50am
NZer In Exile

This week in scumbaggery:

The Voter Registration Machine Flipping the States Blue:

https://amgreatness.com/2023/05/11/the-voter-registration-machine-flipping-the-states-blue/
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May 14, 2023 12:23pm
Bridgenag

Seymour lost me on this 0ne

https://hatchardreport.com/when-worlds-collide/
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May 14, 2023 1:03pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Yup, he’s lost a few voters with that moronic stunt.
  
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  May 15, 2023 8:03am
Maggie Pie

I dunno….but I find it difficult to have much sympathy for some arsehat that’s been caught doing drugs in Thailand 🙁

Although if anyone’s interested, they’ve set up a ‘give-a-little’ page.

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1657546016810213386

(Caution: distressing content & pics)
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May 14, 2023 1:15pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  PSA: NEVER do drugs in any way shape or form in countries that have the death penalty for drugs!
  
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  May 15, 2023 4:11pm
MCōs

Headline on NZ Herald
Kate reveals secret talent at Eurovision

Is there nothing these people can’t do?
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May 14, 2023 1:35pm
- Ghost
  
  Get rid of an annoying inlaw?
  
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  May 14, 2023 1:38pm
Ghost

The moral of the story, don’t break the laws of the country you are visiting

The father of a Kiwi man detained in a Thai jail after being found with drugs says the violation of his son’s human rights has been appalling.

Last September Ari Michael Salinger was charged with drug possession after Thai authorities found him with two ecstasy pills.

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May 14, 2023 2:21pm
Swifty

Does everyone remember when, after an appalling 2018 when nothing got done, Labour was acutely aware of their poor public perception and therefore announced to great fanfare that they were setting up a ‘delivery unit’ at great public expense, reporting directly to Robertson and which was to work across the whole of government to make sure things got done?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-hospital-mental-health-unit-30m-rebuild-at-a-standstill/E3LBU2NJQBB4TGT2CHBQINFMUM/

Does anyone what happened to that delivery unit? Did Robertson forget to deliver that too? Or is it in place but things are still not getting done?

Labour, you are useless.
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May 14, 2023 2:29pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is called the Implementation Unit.
  
  It resides within the Department of Prime Minister & Cabinet DPMC
  
  Here is info about its work plan to June 2023.
  
  https://www.dpmc.govt.nz/publications/proactive-release-implementation-unit-work-programme-30-june-2023
  
  Please Note:
  The Implementation Unit’s work plan was set in December 2022. Since that time the Unit’s assignment to undertake a stocktake of the Three Waters reforms has been placed on hold, and the assignment to assess the readiness of the Income Insurance Scheme will not proceed.
  
  NB: You gotta laff.
  
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  May 14, 2023 3:51pm
  - Kumbukani Obi
    
    Its demise is self fulfilling. Any public servant threatened assignment to the “Implementation Unit” will run a mile. Career suicide.
    
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    May 14, 2023 5:43pm
  - Swifty
    
    I thought that was just an appalling admission that the ministers and ministries aren’t doing their job. Can’t do their job. So additional layers of management are needed to get things done – at additional expense to NZ families.
    
    Good grief. The way to fix non-performance is to bring in achievers. Bring in competence. Not paper over your inadequacies with additional units. That way we’re paying twice!
    
    Would never happen in the private sector.
    
    Why the bell are we paying for ministers and ministries who can’t do their job without being handheld by outsiders? Without expensive outside help?
    
    Labour should be ashamed. They constantly bang on about the calibre of their talent within cabinet, but then for the first time in NZ’s history they need this new implementation unit just to get the widgets made.
    
    This stuff proves that Labour are just making things up regarding a talented cabinet.
    
    Utterly shameful. People like Key, English and Joyce must just be shaking their heads.
    
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    May 14, 2023 5:46pm
Yvette

With Brian Tamaki heading a new “umbrella” party called Freedom New Zealand, how much does his “collective” policies align with Julian Batchelor’s STOP CO-GOVERNANCE meetings?

And as Batchelor is hoping to culminate in a rally in Auckland Domain on the eve of the Election with a projected 100,000 attending, wouldn’t it be better to bring that forward two weeks or so to impact on the political scene and have some reaction in the media and those who do have political parties, rather than be dismissed a day before voting.
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May 14, 2023 2:57pm
Maggie Pie

One of the girls from tennis’s husband is an Airline Pilot.
Which means she spends a lot of time at home alone.
I was asking her if she has a can of ‘Easy-Off’ by the bed in case someone broke in while he’s away? Turns out she keeps a Baseball Bat handy, with a sock pulled over the top. She reckoned if an intruder tried to grab it off her, as she pulled it back from him all he’d be left with is the sock…. and she could get another swing in!

Not a silly idea…..so thort it worth sharing with the group.
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May 14, 2023 3:02pm
- kowtow
  
  For any number of reasons she’s better off with the oven spray . Maybe keep 2 cans , never know if the intruder is alone.
  Prolly worth practising with though , I’m not sure how far they can effectively spray .
  
  Neighbours cat next time it strays in……….
  
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  May 14, 2023 3:58pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Not sure if I mentioned it previously, but best to work a needle or something (i use an old hatpin) into the spray nozzle until it comes out in a direct stream…. rather than a fine spray.
    Done correctly, you can get about 3 -4 meters distance. (Wash hands immediately after as it could take the skin off.)
    Another little trick… is I always wear a cap when out running or playing tennis. I push the hatpin thru that as well. The one I’ve got has a mother-of-pearl end and is about 15cm long. Perfectly legal. But imagine if someone fell up against it while you were holding it 🙁
    
    Yu can follow me here for more ‘self-defence’ advice.
    
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    May 14, 2023 4:26pm
    - kowtow
      
      MP Perhaps post as “fashion tips” rather than self d.
      
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      May 14, 2023 5:05pm
    - Kumbukani Obi
      
      If you were cornered with a knife or a firearm your scenario would hold.
      
      However if you were groped or harassed by an unarmed male, and you stabbed him in the throat with a hat pin, resulting in his death, you would likely be charged with manslaughter.
      
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      May 14, 2023 7:01pm
- Kumbukani Obi
  
  Or, more likely, the (large male) intruder will grab the bat and kill the female residing in the bed. A very bad idea.
  
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  May 14, 2023 5:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Who believes this shit? How to bankrupt a State.
Cali Panel Approves Reparation Payments of $1.2 Million Each and More…

https://therightwingclub.com/americanpatriotclub/cali-panel-approves-reparation-payments-of-1-2-million-each-and-more/?utm_placement=americanpatriotclub

https://twitter.com/realJustATheory/status/1655282150571405312
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May 14, 2023 3:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump on CNN Live. Questions from the audience. Now I guess they are selected, but not scripted. The CNN person was straight out fucking rude. I am surprised Trump did not walk out, buy hey, applause from a town hall CNN audience screwed that CNN host.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1656460288902955010
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May 14, 2023 3:37pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

E. Jean Carroll who we all know of, has a cat named ….

https://twitter.com/ejeancarroll/status/1363271665606656002

She is not unstable right?
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May 14, 2023 3:40pm
- MCōs
  
  She has a cat named vagina
  VAGINA
  
  Get over it you wus.
  
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  May 14, 2023 4:08pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL….. What a big pussy!! 😛
    
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    May 14, 2023 4:29pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Furry too….
      
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      May 14, 2023 4:49pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        There’s a billboard at the bottom of Parnell Rd for Whiskas-Cat-food that says…
        
        ‘Does Your Pussy Have Whiskas’?
        
        I didn’t know whether to larf or cry 😀 😀 😀
        
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        May 14, 2023 4:58pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        The pussy would say “guess?”
        
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        May 14, 2023 5:10pm
      - Kumbukani Obi
        
        “{There’s a billboard at the bottom of Parnell Rd for Whiskas-Cat-food that says…
        
        ‘Does Your Pussy Have Whiskas’?”
        
        No. There is not.
        
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        May 14, 2023 7:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    How long before I start calling our cat named “cock” if the cat just would not come back when called?
    ” hey cock” Come on cock, I know you are hiding cock, I will get my cock.
    
    Please Mr Police person
    
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    May 14, 2023 4:58pm
Ghost

Bloody hell

Furious parents marched their children across picket lines of striking teachers in Oakland, California, on Friday on the seventh day of a strike in which teachers are demanding reparations for slavery, among other demands.

As Breitbart News noted earlier this week, Oakland’s public school teachers went on strike last week not only for increased wages, but also for a variety of other demands, including environmental change and reparations.

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May 14, 2023 6:22pm
Tauhei Notts

I was unaware that a new poll had shown
National and Labour equal. I get that sort of news as a spurious $5 Labour Party member.
So I visited the Betfair site to see what change that seemingly awful poll had had on the punters who back their judgment with their own “hard earned”.
Surprise – no change. National still $1.55 favourites.
A glug of Early Times bourbon and I will be able to sleep tonight all ok. Pleasant dreams to all of you.
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May 14, 2023 8:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  That Poll also had 8.5 percent wanting a return from Jacinda Ardern !
  
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  May 14, 2023 8:40pm
  - Ghost
    
    Jacinda who?
    
    Short circuit, name does not compute
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:32pm
- nathie
  
  That poll was also taken leading up to and during the King’s Coronation, when Hipkins featured practically every day with world leaders and the NZ MSM gushed at the sight of ‘Chippie from the Hutt” receiving sausage rolls!
  
  That might help explain Hipkins’ personal popularity increasing (and Labour’s dropping after their various fiascos).
  
  Suspect the polls over the winter of discontent will still see the trend of Labour dropping …
  
  National and ACT stay steady over the target as the Left and MSM continue to attack with flak!
  
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  May 14, 2023 9:23pm
  - Ghost
    
    Just wait the polls will change, wait for it……. Seems to be the common call, but they aren’t. This is going to be a close election.
    
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    May 14, 2023 9:36pm
    - nathie
      
      It’s like the phoney war at the moment Ghost, wait until July and when campaigning starts and National and ACT gets more airtime.
      
      After all the alternative that will be in plain sight will be Labour bleeding with the radical Greens and the radical TPM thinking they are in ascendancy, “shouting” their demands worrying more and more soft voters.
      
      Suggest NZF rather than TPM perhaps to be the actual “King Maker”, despite the MSM’s promotion of the disgraceful, radical and divisive TPM.
      
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      May 14, 2023 9:52pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie just tweeted…. that the Minister-for-Women, Jan Tinetti, has called for ‘Mothers Day’ to be renamed Birthing Persons Day.

No surprises there of course.
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