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Chuck Bird

After hearing Hipkins interviewed by Hosing this morning I think Hipkins could get a job as a standup comedian after 14 October. He so funny.
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May 9, 2023 8:03am
- Inandout
  
  CB, agreed, but when Niva Retimanu reads the 8am news it bears little resemblence to what Hipkins said. She must be handed a sanitised version, or perhaps she writes from her political slant.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:09am
- greybeard
  
  He must be the most ill-informed prime Minister ever.
  Never seems to have any information about anything.
  ( He probably never asks for any ).
  A disgrace to the position.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:10am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ill informed by design.
    “Sorry, I have not had the information yet.”
    or
    “not necessarily something I would be aware of”
    
    Who said that? You all know right?
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:23am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Exactly like Ardern, and same we it’s hiding their OIA requests, I not the racist Jackson has had yet another warning, and publicly scolded over such corruption
      
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      May 9, 2023 8:45am
    - RoboRob
      
      Just lazy me thinks
      
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      May 9, 2023 9:03am
    - Ruawai
      
      Hipkins other classic line is that going forward we will be better eg Willy Jackson OIA process and Jan Tenneti but no consequences for past errors/indiscretions.
      
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      May 9, 2023 10:10am
    - Hard Cheese
      
      You forgot the old favourite – “I don’t have those figures in front of me”
      
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      May 9, 2023 2:07pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    greybeard – fortunately for Mr Hipkins he was following the worst PM in history, so not much to improve on, but even from a low base he’s struggling.
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:31am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He is as equal corrupt and hides facts and lies just like her, he is no improvement
      
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      May 9, 2023 8:46am
      - RoboRob
        
        He is way better than her. He is just to lazy to be all over things (like Key, Joyce and English were). JA was lazy and a bit thick.
        
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        May 9, 2023 9:04am
      - Paulus
        
        He lacks Ardern’s ability to lie like a true professional and not even blink.
        He is like a young boy suddenly at the last minute made Captain of the Junior losing team.
        
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        May 9, 2023 9:25am
      - Bloody Dago
        
        The leftie Chilean President getting served a bucket of the cold stuff by the conservatives, He’s using the same playbook “the woman from WEF” was running here up until 19th January 2023. This link speaks volumes about how the team of 5 million can unload this overbearing corrupt government in 5 months time.
        https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2023/05/08/leftist-riots-backfire-chile-gives-conservatives-majority-power-to-rewrite-constitution/ From the article: “Chile has defeated a failed government, which has been unable to face the security, migratory, economic, and social crises (health, education, housing, and so many others) where everything is going up, homicides are going up, migration is going up, waiting lists and people living in camps,” Sound familiar?
        
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        May 9, 2023 12:19pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That’s part of their No to hide snd deceive, just like Ardern, how many times did she say I am unaware of that ffs, just like Sharma said over their corruption over OIA , everything has to be hidden, no paper trails, snd when you are hit with corruption questions, you say you are unaware of that, if I have not been informed of that
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:41am
    - stiff cheese
      
      Ardern’s staff were given special training on how to foil OIA requests.
      
      Basically, instead of using texts/email, they were told that potentially awkward info should be communicated over the phone, or in person.
      All about not leaving a digital ‘paper trail’ for the Ombudsman to follow.
      
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      May 9, 2023 10:09am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      Proactively releasing already redacted documents – a la James Shaw – is another useful loophole tactic…
      
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      May 9, 2023 10:35am
  - emmess
    
    Literally
    Never forget when asked what a women is
    That was basically his answer
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:24am
    - Ghost
      
      The best answer I have heard to what is a woman was my GP who said a woman is whatever his wife tells him it is
      
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      May 9, 2023 9:36am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Having information makes Hipkins look worse than if he claims he doesn’t have it. Bad leaders are never across the things they should be. Hipkins is similar to Ardern. Inept.
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:24am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  I heard that. Mike told Chippy that Whaitiri didn’t trust him, then played him the audio where she said she didn’t trust him, and Chippy still tried to tell us that Whaitiri never said he didn’t trust him!
  
  These guys spin and lie so often, they cannot tell the truth even if you beat them over the head with it!
  
  Open and transparent? Give me a break!
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:11am
  - Sacha
    
    To be fair, I think that Whatiri’s ‘No’ was a rebuttal of the reporter’s question, qualified by her saying that her family had more influence on her decisions (rather than the PM) not an actual denial –
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:57am
  - Ruawai
    
    It’s the context (vibe) of the thing.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:13am
- Nickc2
  
  He succeeded in taking obfuscation to new heights!
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:28am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Funny? He’s a tool, look at that pathetic look on his face when snapped with sausage rolls
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:37am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    What was funny was when Hosking played a recording where Meka Whaitiri said she did not trust chippy and he said it was out of context.
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:07am
- Clyde
  
  It was a master class by Hosking – so good to have him back instead of that inept replacement. As for the little boy from the Hutt – he was revealed to be the conniving little liar he has always been.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:44am
kowtow

Another day ,another anti monarchy cartoon from the Whoreald.

With all the shenanigans with the Maori contingent in Labour you’d think that would be a rich field for political lampoons , but oh no.

And I see Claire Trevet has a piece on the Nats running attack ads ( ‘under Ardern Labour resisted taking pot shots when it was in strife’) Oh yeah , she didn’t to , her Media Attack Dogs did that every day for her.
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May 9, 2023 8:14am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I note snother Monday passes without a one news poll, they were the first Monday in the month every month, none since March, they polled end of March, and never released the poll
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe they could not get the numbers they wanted, and didn’t want to tell lies?
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:13am
    - Bob
      
      didn’t want to tell lies….
      hasn’t stopped them in the past!
      
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      May 9, 2023 10:10am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I guess that’s why the one in April was not released, I think this TPM being king maker is an absolute load of bullshit, most polls have them at two % the odd poll has them at 4, pretty sure TOU poll conducted by Curia is due if they are going once a month, last poll had Nats and ACT ahead of Labour Green, and a lot of damage must surely have been done since
      
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      May 9, 2023 11:09am
  - jon
    
    G The monthly Taxpayer/Curia poll must be out in the next day or so. Given the C/L turmoil of last week, surely the C/R will have got some traction on the back of it. Some will say this turmoil is just all beltway stuff but its wider than that , it demonstrates the chaos, a three headed coalition of a Labour/Green/Maori govt would bring.
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:58am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Agreed, just mentioned that above, last poll had Nats and ACT navy to a two point lead
      
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      May 9, 2023 11:18am
- Ruawai
  
  Media are like the Warriors referee’s, unconscious bias.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:15am
  - RalphT
    
    Unconscious? Not sure about that.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:37am
Lee C

Perhaps we are witnessing Ardern’s last act of political sabotage by anointing Chippy.

Hell hath no fury and all that…

Heh, she started out in a chippy and left us all with one.
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May 9, 2023 8:14am
- kowtow
  
  The Ardern Regime societal destruction is now structurally , institutionally embedded .
  
  It will infect the body societal for generations .Literally.
  
  The crash in health ( immunisation) , education , race relations ( the end of democracy as we knew it) ,prison muster and law and order being the obvious indicators.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:44am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Tha is a good one, the last line!!!
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:52am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Disagree.
  
  They genuinely think he’s one of their best.
  
  Look at all the portfolios he was given.
  
  My take is it’s just and incredibly shallow talent pool.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:43am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Play School TV1Breakfast is being presented in Te Reo today.
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May 9, 2023 8:14am
- sirknz
  
  Viewing figure drop for today=Racism
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:19am
- kowtow
  
  Good .
  The more they push all this race division the more people will be turned off .
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Good point. It is not ‘racist’ to show the division and who is doing it……
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:20am
- graham
  
  Seriously? Oh well, just as well I had no plans to watch it as it would be a good minute wasted (turn on television, watch for one minute in bemusement trying to understand what they are saying, give up and turn the TV off again).
  
  If the presenters of TV1 Breakfast want to speak in Maori then good for them – it doesn’t bother me as I don’t watch the program anyway. However, if I did regularly watch it that would lead me to turn off the television for the very simple reason that I can’t understand it.
  
  That’s not racist. It’s not a sign of latent White Supremacy™. It’s a very simple matter of being unable to understand the language and comprehend what they are talking about. So why would I watch something that I quite literally cannot understand? I know people love to howl “Racist!” whenever such matters are discussed, but as far as I’m concerned it’s really very simple – there’s no point in watching a program that I literally cannot understand. Why is that so difficult for people to accept?
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:26am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I watchTV1 breakfast because the speaker of the house insists she watch it.
    Keep the Queen bee happy and the whole hive is happy – or something.
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:39am
  - sirknz
    
    White Supremacy™
    
    You mean like the Latino man with (allegedly as various media outlets are apparently cropping his hands out of every picture they use) gang tattoos all over his hand shooting white people in a mall sort of White Supremacy?
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:27am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      A potentially “trans-racial” white supremacist narrative growing around Mr. Garcia.
      
      Odd how the media might omit witness statements of cries of ‘Allahu Ackbar’ if someone drives into a crowd of people; to prevent people jumping to conclusions – but they seem to be almost gleeful if there is any way to link a crime to white supremacy.
      If the left didn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all.
      
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      May 9, 2023 12:43pm
- Inandout
  
  SO, streaming services are bursting with childrens’ programmes. Local TV is pathetic by comparison.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:32am
  - Paulus
    
    Many of the RNZ children’s programmes appear to include a substantial amount of Maori words.
    Is it true that RNZ must include not less than 25% in Te Reo ?
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:30am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Good, that means no one watching, they will get the idea when little kids vote with their feet
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:55am
- Miritu
  
  Genuine question to Steve and others:
  Why do you still consume this discredited content?
  
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  May 9, 2023 1:01pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    My reason is above. I watchTV1 breakfast because the speaker of the house insists she watch it.
    Keep the Queen bee happy and the whole hive is happy – or something.
    
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    May 9, 2023 5:07pm
    - graham
      
      Same here. SWMBO insists on TV1 News at 6, and being just the two of us we eat dinner while watching – so a bit difficult to get out of.
      
      However, we do record it and skip over the bits that don’t interest us, or we find outright embarrassing – which is turning out to be increasingly more of the content that is served up. It’s not unusual for us to skip half the program, and occasionally even more.
      
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      May 9, 2023 5:38pm
pdm

`He must be the most ill-informed prime Minister ever.’

No GB I think Ardern still holds that award and is probably unbeatable in my lifetime.

Hipkins is a bit more plausible than Ardern but spreads the same mistruths as he tries to defend the indefenceiible.
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May 9, 2023 8:15am
- artemisia
  
  Between the two, Ms Ardern wins the post turtle competition.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    But we know how she got there. 2009 speech ‘Comrade’ I knew then.
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:41am
    - kowtow
      
      Peters put her there .
      
      That’s what his idiot constituency needs to remember .Now that he’s playing Saviour , again.
      
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      May 9, 2023 8:46am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Peter’s had only got 2 possible cards to play. The disaffected who opposed the Vax passes and mandates and the racism that is rife in NZ currently.
        So far National and ACT haven’t gone near the former and aren’t vocal enough on the latter.
        If Peter’s manages to hit the required threshold because he campaigned better on one of both of these topics then Nats and Act still have only themselves to blame. They are an easy win and doing it first will remove the oxygen from him.
        
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        May 9, 2023 9:23am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Watch that 2009 speech again. I knew then that if this person ever got the reins of power, she would be dangerous and destroy everything in her path for World recognition. NZ has been left in a mess – and it is NOT covid.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig
        
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        May 9, 2023 9:33am
      - stiff cheese
        
        According to the AM show’s experts, NZ has just had (12 months ending Feb) Net Immigration of 52,000.
        Later this year we’re set to hit 100,000. That’s 100k more people arriving than are leaving, because of migration. Our highest level ever.
        
        That’s hugely transforming our society. What mandate does Labour or any other govt have to impose this
        ‘world-beating’ level of migration on our country?
        
        When I visit a Bottle Store — infrequently I should add — but when I do, all the staff seem to be from one ethnic group, and recently arrived in the country. Was this one of the special skill sets we had to import? I would’ve thought these were ideal starter jobs for our own youngsters to take on.
        
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        May 9, 2023 10:55am
      - leoj
        
        Clan (above) is on to it.
        Luxon’s and Seymour’s silence (tacit agreement with the govt re the mandates) is telling.
        Both have missed a huge opportunity.
        Winston, the f**king traitor, might just get back into the power again because of it.
        If he does, can he be trusted not to screw us again?
        
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        May 9, 2023 11:25am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Ardern wasn’t ill-informed but she kept New Zealanders ill-informed of her intentions…..
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:22am
  - pdm
    
    Blogaly.
    
    Ardern did not know the difference between Crown Accounts and Gross National Product.
    
    That is pretty thick for a Prime Minister.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:31am
    - kowtow
      
      Her first day on campaign after rolling Little was a Recerve Bank interest rate meeting , she was aked about it by a media person. She didn’t know it was on .
      
      That woman was clueless from the outset . But the Media Pardy never put her under any pressure.
      They knew .
      
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      May 9, 2023 11:00am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are equally inept, they are playing to a mischievous plan.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:57am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  There is being ‘ill informed’, and then there is ‘plausible deniability’ where those in leadership or public facing roles attempt to deliberately keep a distance between them and information so they cannot comment when they are called upon to do so.
  
  Ardern, a student of the Tony Blair school of business as she was an advisor in his government, considered herself somewhat of an expert at this, but what she failed to realize is that New Zealand is too small, and everyone knows everything, or knows someone who knows everything, thereby negating the ‘plausible’ in ‘plausible deniability’.
  
  This is the main reason why she stopped doing Tuesday interviews with Mike Hosking, because he was so well connected, and he would keep calling her out on the nonsense.
  
  Chris Hipkins seems to think that he is somehow better than Jacinda in this regard, and he seems to think that the creed of plausible deniability is somehow still in force, but in this country, you cannot control the information flow.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:44am
The Redbaiter

Why does Mr Luxon want to hand over NZ’s energy security to Communist China?

Here’s an article outlining the strategic downside to so called “renewable energy”.

Today, Senators Rick Scott, Josh Hawley, Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton reintroduced the Keep China Out of Solar Energy Act to prohibit federal funds from being used to buy solar panels manufactured or assembled in Communist China, specifically targeting those known for the use of slave labor.

Last month, Senator Rick Scott and Representative Bill Posey led legislation to block the Biden administration’s action that protects Chinese solar companies which are actively circumventing U.S. trade laws.

Have Mr Luxon and National factored this issue into their insane “electrify NZ” project?
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May 9, 2023 8:15am
- Nickc2
  
  Have Mr Luxon and National factored this issue into their insane “electrify NZ” project?
  How would we know?
  Send an OIA request to Willie Jackson, he knows everything.
  If you dont’s get a response from Willie, don’t be surprised. He’s still trying to answer OIA requests dating back to last year according to the OIA Ombudsman.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:42am
  - kowtow
    
    That’s what should be front page news , not some South Island school shenanigans .
    
    Te Media Pardy and the politics of distraction.
    
    Holding power to account ; bwahahahaha.
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That policy is a simple RMA cutting red tape policy, they are not building electricity plants, they are not paying for electricity plants, what the hell is the problem with this, Contact cancelled a large scale electricity plant after they waited 20 years for consent, we need more energy
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:05am
    - The Redbaiter
      
      Wow, so an ardent Nat party supporter from Dunedin knows more about the issue of energy security and China cheating on FTAs than US Senators Rick Scott, Josh Hawley, Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton. You should write to them G, and tell them what you know. Help the poor guys out.
      
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      May 9, 2023 9:41am
      - Che Guava
        
        I think these people are mostly indirectly shilling for conflict with China, rather than being concerned about foreign Chinese influence in the United States. Foreign political and economic influence and interference in the US is rampant, but I don’t think that China is top of the list by any stretch.
        
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        May 9, 2023 11:02am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        I couldn’t care a stuff what you find in US politics, they are more corrupt than here, I ask again, what the hell do you want
        
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        May 9, 2023 11:21am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Another thing is too, you worry about what party you support, and I will worry about which party I support, hate the Nats openly at your peril, but as I said, it helps the undecided voter make their mind up to stay with the left
        
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        May 9, 2023 11:23am
      - leoj
        
        Instead of rose tinted glasses, G’s are blue.
        Once, so were mine but the party is now merely a shadow of its former self, run by wokesters.
        
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        May 9, 2023 11:30am
      - Ian Boag
        
        Bloody Chinese. Kicked the bottom out of the solar cell market …. no way should we buy any of this stuff …
        
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        May 9, 2023 8:46pm
  - RoboRob
    
    Where are the teeth of the Ombudsman. What exactly is the punishment for flagrantly failing to respond of OIA requests on time? We all know that the Ombudsman wouldn’t have gone to this level if it was just the usual level of delay.
    
    Willie…. ‘It was a staffing issue’. Pull the other one.
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:09am
    - Ruawai
      
      Willy is arrogant.
      
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      May 9, 2023 10:21am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He has publicly castigated Jackson, I suggest further action will be taken next time
      
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      May 9, 2023 11:24am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Oh ffs here we go again, this country is in the most fragile state it has ever been in including and pandemics. This government is dividing the people of this nation with race based policies that will be very hard to readjust, yet you want to rubbish the Nats. Get it through your head, there is two choices, Labour less with Greens snd TPM in cabinet got the first time ever , with democracy change as we once knew, or a Nat Act coalition, what is it you fools want? Act are never going to be the major party, and all your griping does is scare off the large group of undecided voters who clearly won’t vote Labour because target have done that, unless fools like you scare them back to Labour, what the hell is it you want?
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:03am
  - Che Guava
    
    How, specifically, are National/ACT going to be a substantial departure from the alternative? Particulars, not generalities, please.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:57am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Well going by the policies I have seen, it’s totally opposed to this rotten regime, I know the bulk of pllieill come after the budget, but fools have already decided on this channel what those policies will be, funny that, because many of the MPs do not know the full disclosure of those policies yet.
      
      I am sick to death of this crap they are birds of a feather, if you want this pathetic exchange of leadership pushed over to Māori, then be my guest, but I got one will not, who the hell else do you vote for if not the only plausible avenue to get rid of these bums? There is no other new party even close to 5% , so font try and tell me there is, we have 5 months, if you are happy with the separatist bullshit then you know what to do, but Nats snd ACT have stated there will be no separatist services in this country, end of story.
      
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      May 9, 2023 11:32am
      - Che Guava
        
        Those are generalities, not particulars. Hoping that that they’ll be different isn’t a good reason for voting for the current opposition.
        
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        May 9, 2023 12:04pm
  - leoj
    
    Oh, this is really simple. Nats have broken from their original platforms and have largely “gone along” with Labour.
    
    All 120 MPs hid behind Jacinda’s skirt over the mandates and the protest.
    
    The are all a f**king disgrace.
    
    As leader of the Nats, Luxon is the one who could have and should have fought for our freedoms but didn’t. End of story, stick a fork in him. He’s done.
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:36am
    - The Redbaiter
      
      Luxon says all the same things Key said about NZ reaching its potential. Word for word.
      
      Key also said he would dis-establish the Maori seats. Just as Luxon says (contradicting his Deputy Willis) that they will not join up with Te Pati Maori.
      
      When Key won the election he formed an unnecessary alliance with the Maori Party and said this alliance prevented him from keeping his promise on the Maori seats.
      
      So here we are today with a bunch of Marxist revolutionaries who are pretending to be Maori using their assumed race and the Maori seats to divide and weaken NZ and pervert the election.
      
      When Luxon says he will not form an alliance with Te Pati Maori I believe it about as far as I could kick him. (but has he even said this?)
      
      Sure, the main danger is Labour and their Maori caucus and a Te Pati Maori alliance, but you really do not know about Luxon and what he will give up.
      
      Remember he forced all Air NZ employees fronting with the public to learn the language. Willis has learnt it and Luxon is learning it.
      
      If voting Nats is going to keep Te Pati Maori out then Luxon has to give a cast iron guarantee or else his words are worthless. IMHO.
      
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      May 9, 2023 1:09pm
Yvette

Winter health plan leads transition to new model of care
The Government’s winter preparedness plan may not keep the pressure off emergency departments, but it will offer the first real look at how the new health system operates

… The winter plan is a test-run of a range of ideas piloted on a local level. They’ll now be expanded to the regional or national scene, but cautiously, with extensive monitoring before they bed in permanently.
The scheme to allow pharmacists to treat minor ailments like eczema or skin rashes is a perfect exampl …
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/winter-health-plan-leads-transition-to-new-model-of-care

If I understand this linked article correctly, are all chemists going to be as competent as doctors?
How will a patient know themselves if they are a doctor’s ability or chemist’s case?
Will chemists have consulting rooms?
Will there be an animated cartoon campaign like the 3 Waters job to publicise this whole set-up?
If chemist service is free and doctors cost you, will that automatically divide the patients by financial means?
How the eff will this whole system work?
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May 9, 2023 8:19am
- Ghost
  
  pharmacies Have been doing consults for a long time, ours has a consult room and we are a tiny little town. Their consults aren’t free
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:27am
  - Paulus
    
    Only for Vaccinations and Injections, by appointment, at our Pharmacist.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:36am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Personally, after the debacle that the last 3 years have been, we’ve dropped out of the health system and are doing our own research. I’m over paying $60 for 15 minutes just to watch my doctor google the same sites that I do when checking re the cause of various symptoms.
  Anyway he got it all wrong re the vaccines and the masks. Shaved his beard to virtue signal last year that he was “doing it properly”. Saw him a couple of weeks ago with the beard back, he ignored me and walked away when I asked, as he was growing it back, was this acknowledgment that he had figured out the masks were a waste of time?
  
  Tumbleweed. I hate when people haven’t got the balls to admit they were wrong.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:52am
  - Ghost
    
    Damn. I remember my gp saying a while ago he’s stopped going to the break room because he got tired of listening to the young doctors talking about cases and all their answers came from either text books or Google. They weren’t interested in any alternative treatments and in some cases what their patients were saying.
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:53am
  - All_on_Red
    
    “ watch my doctor google”
    If that’s what your ‘Dr’ is doing then you need to change Doctors
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:11am
    - Ra Henare
      
      If you expect your GP to be up with the play on all new medical developments then I have a bridge to sell you.
      
      I sometimes google stuff then ask my GPs opinion.
      He sometimes gets back to me after “”reviewing”” the literature(ie medical studies.)
      
      Its a symbiotic relationship. I am currently the worlds leading authority on MY BODY. Having lived with it intimately for 76+ years.
      
      He is my learned advisor.
      
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      May 9, 2023 12:45pm
      - Ghost
        
        that’s what I do. Funnily enough he was on holiday once, came back and said he was listening to a podcast and realized everything being talked about matched my symptoms.
        
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        May 9, 2023 12:52pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        I would normally agree, except the whole medical industrial complex is now so riddled with corruption is difficult to know who to trust. “Peer reviewed” used to mean something, no longer. The Lancet used to be highly respected, their reputation shredded this year. PubMed, they are pretty much all funded by big pharma to at least some extent.
        No, trust is gone for me.
        I’ll stick a relevant post up tomorrow re the perilous state of health services everywhere. It’ll give you a bit of an idea why things may not be quite like you think they are.
        
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        May 9, 2023 2:57pm
  - Anan Carpentie
    
    “I’m over paying $60 for 15 minutes just to watch my doctor google the same sites that I do when checking re the cause of various symptoms.”
    
    IMO – At the very least, you should go somewhere to have your blood pressure checked every 12 months.
    
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    May 9, 2023 1:34pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      I used to go biannually for my ‘warrant’. Bloods, heart check, eyes etc.
      No more, I’ll take what comes, they wouldn’t take my wife’s stitches out of her face because she wouldn’t wear a mask. She has an exemption. They wouldn’t accept it. Their actions breach human rights but more so, were morally repugnant. I was forced to be treated outside in the winter for the same reason.
      No, I’ve completely lost trust in what they do and in particular, what they give out in the way of medicine.
      
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      May 9, 2023 4:15pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Also I have the means to check my own here at home, as well as a lot more information regarding preventative steps I can take to stop problems arising in the first place.
      It’s one of the biggest problems with the whole system, everything caters towards a ‘cure’, inevitably a pharma product. Nobody talks do much about the reasons the problems occur in the first place and how to prevent them. The BFD has a good article about the huge rise in numbers of ‘Wellness Centres’ across NZ now catering to this issue. I’ll be supporting them instead.
      
      Check out the article, interesting reading.
      
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      May 9, 2023 4:20pm
      - Anan Carpentie
        
        Thanks – I appreciate your strong feelings. I just mentioned blood pressure because it can be deadly but often with no symptoms. None of my business – just giving you my 2 cents worth 🙂
        
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        May 9, 2023 4:23pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      have your blood pressure checked every 12 months.
      
      Or spend $50 for a blood pressure machine and do it yourself as often as you like … plenty on TradeMe.
      
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      May 9, 2023 8:53pm
- Paulus
  
  My Pharmacist neighbour will have nothing to do with this, apparently along with many others.
  It is the Doctor’s to prescribe and the Pharmacist to apply accurately the Doctor’s script.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:34am
  - Anan Carpentie
    
    I have not looked for any data on this… but just from observation, many smaller pharmacies are closing from competition from the Australian discount chemists like bargain chemists. A decade ago there used to be at least 4 pharmacies within 10 minutes walk from the Beehive in Wellington. Now there are none.
    
    Are these discount chains going to buy into this government model of primary medical care? Maybe if they can make money out of it.
    
    BTW I have no sympathy for the small pharmacies going broke. For decades they price gouged us. For example, over the last 10 years, the cost of the contact lens solution I use has dropped from $30+ to about $15.
    
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    May 9, 2023 1:39pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “The Government’s winter preparedness plan may not keep the pressure off emergency departments, but it will offer the first real look at how the new health system operates”
  
  Remember people: When there is “pressure [on] emergency departments” it is your fault. It has nothing to do with government incompetence or their vacuous “winter preparedness plans”.
  
  As for “the first real look at how the new health system operates” given that everything this government touches gets worse the aforementioned “real look” is likely to be a shocker.
  
  But no matter, apparently close to 50% of voting NZers want more of this.
  
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  May 9, 2023 1:44pm
Ipanema69

Ah life in Auckland it doesnt get any better than this. Currently riding the bus to work aling Tamaki Drive. Tbe eastern line railway line is closed for nine months!

My seatmate has just cracked open an RTD and reeks of cigarette smoke and bo. Must be the breakfast of champions.

I am clearly doing something wrong going to work on a Tuesday and being a net taxpayer.
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May 9, 2023 8:23am
- Inandout
  
  Ipan, I admire your bravery in using public transport.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:34am
  - Ipanema69
    
    Thanks, I used to take the Eastern line train which to be fair was pretty good. It is a 12min trip from meadowbank to Brito. No way I could beat that in a car.
    
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    May 9, 2023 1:09pm
- kowtow
  
  Are you sure it was cigarette smoke , sounds like it’s a Green party member , making their efforts to get us onto bicycles .
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:52am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Last time I rode public transport in Auckland was February 1970 just before I bought my first car. I prefer my own company when commuting.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:04am
- coge
  
  Public transport is for other people.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:14am
- Lance
  
  Sounds like Weird Al’s ‘another one rides the bus’.
  
  ” There is a smelly old bum in the seat next to me, I don’t think he has showered in a year”
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:38am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Eeeek, public transport. My oldest daughter once decided to be a good citizen and take public transport. She has refused ever since. I think her words were “full of stinky weirdos and fat people”.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:28am
  - Anan Carpentie
    
    I used to catch buses in Wellington. I was always getting colds and similiar illnesses. Now I don’t. That is not a coincidence. A typical Wellington bus ride in peak hour:
    
    – You may not get a seat
    – You are forced to listen to loud phone conversation (“I am on the bus!”)
    – Teenagers yelling at each other
    – If you do get a seat, a fat person taking up 75 percent of the seat.
    
    So, no just bloody no. I would rather be stuck in traffic listening to a podcast.
    
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    May 9, 2023 1:44pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      I would rather be stuck in traffic listening to a podcast.
      
      Your choice …
      
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      May 9, 2023 8:56pm
cas

I was wondering who was on the Waitangi Tribunal.
https://www.waitangitribunal.govt.nz/about/members-of-the-waitangi-tribunal/

Not an awful lot of diversity I thought
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May 9, 2023 8:32am
Maggy Wassilieff

Who knew that Oranga Tamariki had so much money to dole out?

Oranga Tamariki provided around $500m in funding annually to 600 non-government organisations, strategic partners and communities.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018889245/oranga-tamariki-cuts-funding-for-130-trusts-working-with-youth

I wonder who audits the recipient groups.
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May 9, 2023 8:38am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Mrs N. O’Body.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:45am
- Paulus
  
  Called Koha in Te Reo, if you remember !
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:41am
ClanMcleod

I mentioned a few days ago that it was my belief that if ALL factors involved in getting to carbon neutral including mining, manufacture, disposal etc, that the ICE will do less damage to the planet than the EV equivalent.
Well, somebody has done the numbers that I couldn’t.

What if every car was an EV?

Transitioning the global vehicle fleet to EVs will add an addition 200,000 million tons of CO2 per year to the atmosphere.

Those calculations are more plausible than any of the provably nonsensical models that have been produced claiming the imminent destruction of the planet. It’s a mirror of the nonsensical covid narrative.

It is based on lies and it is part of an ideological agenda that is going to see the majority of people returning to the days of serfs and lords, because you can guarantee the James’ Shaws, Greta Thunbergs and Chloe Swarbricks of this world won’t be doing the hard yards.

Thus, assuming the current global energy mix, transitioning all of the global vehicle fleet to EVs will result in the addition of 200,000 million tons of anthropogenic CO2 per year.

These people are delusional. they are going to be responsible for the destruction of our way of life for absolutely zero gain. No more.

https://noclimateemergency.substack.com/p/what-if-every-car-was-an-ev?publication_id=1072769&post_id=120075108&isFreemail=true
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May 9, 2023 8:45am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Actually, an extra 200,000 tonnes of CO2 might be a good thing. Some people argue that it helps to warm the planet a little bit.
  I can think of better ways to do that though.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:09am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    200,000 million tonnes. Even better!
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:18am
- Burtland
  
  Heres a study from 2022, by Simon Michaux, on the quantity of metal required to make one generation of renewable tech. Its a long watch.
  
  In summary, its looking impossible
  
  https://youtu.be/MBVmnKuBocc
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:07am
Bridgenag

Not Safe · Not Effective · Not Necessary
For the Seers · the Violated · the Recorders · the Repentant

https://open.substack.com/pub/writethevision/p/not-safe-not-effective-not-necessary?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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May 9, 2023 8:46am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Bridgenag – it’s a brilliant post, everyone should read it, sadly most won’t.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:58am
  - Bridgenag
    
    I know…. I thought if I keep plugging away as opposed to hitting heads together
    
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    May 9, 2023 4:24pm
Monty

so a cluster by Hipkins on NewstalkZB this morning
Mika the Muss doesnt trust Hipkins.
Hipkins doesnt think business should need security guards at premises. Hosking had the numbers at his fingers – so Hipkins struggled with arrest rate of 19%.
Willie Jackson doesnt meet OIA
Keri Allan – RNZ protecting their Labour puppet masters
Jan Tinetti – a liar protected – Hipkins not across the detail and protecting a lying minister and inappropriate interference
Hipkins doesnt think the Government is in trouble – what a fool
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May 9, 2023 8:49am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Hipkins doesnt think business should need security guards at premises.’
  
  Every dole office has had security for years ( still do I think)
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:54am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    ‘Hipkins doesnt think business should need security guards at premises.’
    Tell that to the Michael Hill stores.
    Sylvia Park store has a security guard but not sure if he’s allowed to stop anyone
    
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    May 9, 2023 9:38am
Tony Stuart

Did Adrian Rurawhe and his staff knowingly help Meka Whaitiri circumvent the provisions of the electoral integrity legislation?

Whaitiri said she had sought the advice of the speaker prior to sending a letter about her resignation — now subject to controversy due to waka-jumping rules in Parliament.

“I wrote to the speaker after seeking his advice,” the now-independent MP said. “His office provided very good advice, and I wrote accordingly.

“For Parliamentary purposes, I wrote to the speaker, he ruled accordingly.

“People will call it messy, it’s quite not.”

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/05/09/exclusive-meka-whaitiri-breaks-her-silence-after-defection/

It is not the job of the Speaker to redefine laws passed by the Parliament. The Speaker’s role is to remain neutral, and above party political issues. It would seem that Mr Rurawhe might have gone further than that.

This issue isn’t going to go away any time soon.
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May 9, 2023 8:51am
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  His performance last week was shall we say, unconvincing. At one point he said that there was no notice received from Whaitiri and then followed by saying the notice didn’t meet the requirement of Section 55B.
  Show us the letter.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:08am
  - Paulus
    
    Which Letter ?
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:46am
    - Parnell Gun Club
      
      The letter Whaitiri gave to the Speaker notifying (or not) that she was resigning from the Labour party.
      
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      May 9, 2023 12:46pm
  - Piniwi
    
    But PGC he took refuge behind standing orders which are a different kettle of fish to the Electoral act and all the associated revisions and subsequent legislation. He has proven to be as useless a Speaker as anticipated by many and thinks has native cape is his protection. What a putz.
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:14am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The whole thing is corrupt like virtually everything Labour do , every issue has soft corruption attached to these vulgar ministers, thd dpeaker has lost the room, and Robertson tried to put the blame that he was in speakers office as some how Nats fault on HDA last night, the media knew he had been in speakers office, it was not the Nats that stated that, snd as for Robertson, she asked him would he like to change is words on not putting up the ute tax, his pathetic answer was there is no such thing as a Ute tax, when clearly there is
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:27am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  I suspect it will go away quite soon. It is essentially a beltway issue. Not many voters would really expect Whaitiri to actually leave Parliament. Rather it shows up the silliness of the party hopper legislation.
  
  I reckon National and Act will move beyond this no later than next week, which is budget week.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:42am
  - Anan Carpentie
    
    I agree with you. It will go away soon.
    
    However, just because it may be a silly law does not mean that the Speaker can circumvent the law.
    
    I thought it was a stupid law when Winston pushed for it. However I have changed my view over time. I don’t think that electorate MPs should be forced out of Parliament if they resign from their Party. However List MPs are different. The Green Party list MP who just resigned from her Party is in Parliament entirely because she has been selected by the Party.
    
    Anyway, I agree it will die as an issue in the next couple of weeks.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:22am
  - MCōs
    
    I’m picking she’ll lose the seat to Labour. The signs are there Labour won’t be putting the boot in
    They want the sear back, but they may need the Māori Party after the election.
    I don’t think the Māori Party would fancy ACT in power.
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She should resign and force a bye election, Labour don’t get to decide that
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:34am
    - Anan Carpentie
      
      Even if she resigned, there would be no by election. National would not force it, which they would be required to do.
      
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      May 9, 2023 12:13pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Most voters would expect their elected reps and lawmakers to hold to the highest standards of the laws.
    
    So basically should we just ignore any laws we don’t agree with?
    
    If they don’t hold themselves accountable then the election will show what the moral compass of the voting public is. I suspect it will be higher than the mps. Bit laughable the number of gongs dished out to the morally deficient.
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:27pm
- pdm
  
  `It is not the job of the Speaker to redefine laws passed by the Parliament. ‘
  
  Inv that decision was probably made on his behalf by Robertson.
  
  The poor Speaker was proabably given no say in it.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He should have publicly slammed Robertson, snd told him to stay in his lane
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:36am
- Paulus
  
  I suggest that Meka W may be terminally inexacted in her memory of the circumstances as advised by Grant to the Speaker.
  Remember Robertson is a master of obfuscation as he has practiced it for many years – fact and fiction are synonimous to him and Labour.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:45am
Maggy Wassilieff

When I get a calling deep in my puku, I head for the lav.

MP Meka Whaitiri says “a calling deep in my puku” led her to quit the Labour Party and join Te Pāti Māori.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131986127/meka-whaitiri-breaks-silence-explains-why-it-was-time-to-leave-labour-and-join-te-pti-mori
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May 9, 2023 8:53am
- Piniwi
  
  Thanks Maggie had a chuckle when she said and she consolidated it by repeating it again and like you say real people know it is time for a movement not a move. That whole thing was totally contrived with packing boxes and her minder there to make sure she stayed on script. It should have been in the studio but the native interviewer is too easily swayed. Nobody is any wiser about the “why” that they were before sunrise today. But we were warned they intend to make a song and dance show in the House today as they continue to denigrate Parliament and the Parliamentary process. Tin a cocoa.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:31am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  I can’t have been a calling from her brain Maggy. There have been search parties looking for that for 25 years with no success.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:31am
plc

And yet another OTT opinion piece by verity johnson

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131980358/verity-johnson-were-sick-of-jacinda-bashing

People don’t hate women, they hate incompetence and deceit
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May 9, 2023 9:05am
- BeaB
  
  What she doesn’t realise is when she says we have to be nicer and kinder to Jacinda because she is a woman, even women roll their eyes. We can stand on our own two feet.
  Most men don’t hate most women. They do hate incompetence and finger-wagging – and being nagged.
  So do most women.
  The main reason we didn’t like Jacinda is that she made a hash of running the country.
  And our fawning media lay down and let her walk all over them.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:22am
  - Piniwi
    
    Good shot BeaB. The majority all sung Hallelujah as she scuttled away and no doubt many would have thanked the lord for such a blessing while equally as many would still be stunned by such a rapid undignified departure. Pity she never got rid of her offending caucus members who needed the DCM with the same haste. Especially the basher who has just egged the caretaker PM. Rather than hate her most are now seeing it as a sorry political drama that had a devastating impact on our island nation.
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:43am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    100 upticks
    
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    May 9, 2023 8:28pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  I see they did not open up the comments on it unfortunately.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:46am
- Swifty
  
  The question lefties never even attempt to answer:
  
  If righties hate women leaders so much then how come they adored Maggy Thatcher so greatly?
  
  They wont answer it because they can’t. It would reveal the total incoherence of their position.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:53am
- Paulus
  
  No, not entirely in that is becoming more established that women have less regard for other women than before, as they get the top jobs, as they are the best persons for that job of course, and other woman think otherwise.
  Gonna be scraps and feathers will surely fly in time..
  
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  May 9, 2023 1:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Do you trust the Prime Minister?

Asked whether she trusted Hipkins, Whaitiri said, “No, I trust my family”.

But Whaitiri walked back those comments later in the interview.

“No, I didn’t say I didn’t trust the Prime Minister – that’s what you said,”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/pm-says-difficult-to-say-if-labour-could-ve-supported-meka-whaitiri-better-as-defected-mp-says-she-doesn-t-trust-chris-hipkins-then-backtracks.html

no, no, no, no, yes!
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May 9, 2023 9:19am
- Libertarians are right
  
  What she actually said was that she doesn’t trust white people, only Maori (her family).
  
  She’s a Racist.
  
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  May 9, 2023 9:34am
  - Anan Carpentie
    
    Wasn’t there some Maori MP years ago who said that he would disown his daughters if they married a white man? And then insisted he was not racist 😂
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:13am
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      Hone Harawira
      
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      May 9, 2023 10:43am
  - Sacha
    
    Haha.
    Hey Lib, put yourself in her shoes – as a white person, would YOU only trust ‘white’ people, never brown ones?
    Are you a racist too?
    
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    May 9, 2023 10:17am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      No, that’s a moronic position to take.
      
      I trust people that earn my trust. Skin colour doesn’t come into it. Seriously, “I only trust people that look/act the same as me” is unbelievably intolerant and small minded. That kind of closeminded echo chambering causes a huge number of problems.
      
      Obviously, this is an echo chamber but luckily I live in the real world where I have friends of almost every persuasion including many activist Lefties, who I trust in a broad sense.
      
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      May 9, 2023 11:30am
Maggy Wassilieff

Our open and transparent Government

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/proactive-release-used-to-circumvent-oia

The Greens are party to the deception.
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May 9, 2023 9:24am
Chris Nisbet

For those who are interested in the climategate emails, I have found this nice analysis of them.
https://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/climategate-emails.pdf

I read it for the first time a few years ago, but struggled to find a link to it again until now.
Michael Mann comes across as a nasty piece of work. He and his mates did their best to take control of the peer review process, and which studies got published in journals etc.
What I read in this review was a real eye opener.
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May 9, 2023 9:28am
MCōs

https://twitter.com/rbisrb/status/1655692267749797888?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
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May 9, 2023 10:01am
- Anan Carpentie
  
  Can you give us a hint?
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:12am
- Libertarians are right
  
  If you are a New Zealander your heritage is as an immigrant. There you go. Same energy.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:32am
- Burtland
  
  didnt the slaves get eaten by the natives
  
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  May 9, 2023 7:45pm
Anan Carpentie

It is worth listening to this interview with this Conservative UK MP, who has just been expelled from the Conservative Party for repeatedly saying that the COVID vaccines are neither safe or effective. He has also been pointing out the high numbers of excess deaths.

https://youtu.be/WTO5hSeGO0Q

It is more often the Left who engage in cancel culture. But when it comes to COVID vaccines, anyone criticising the establishment narrative is cancelled.

If this guy is wrong, surely the UK Health Minister can debate him, refuting each of his claims using evidence and reasoning? I mean, if he is deluded, that should be simple. However instead he has been expelled from the Party and cancelled by the mainstream media. ☹️
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May 9, 2023 10:11am
- Burtland
  
  we follow the science, the political science
  same with climate change
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:02pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/we-need-pick-up-points-for-books-in-every-town-and-city/
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May 9, 2023 10:12am
BeaB

Hoskings is a class act. He is the ONLY one who asks the questions and gets the answers – or lack of them, usually even more revealing.
Hipkins sounded like a baffled adolescent.
It’s a bit sad when a radio announcer is better informed than the PM.
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May 9, 2023 10:16am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  HOSKING.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:54am
- Anan Carpentie
  
  Hosking 🙂
  
  I can’t think of anyone who has his name so frequently misspelt in public forums. And it is such a straightforward name.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:55am
  - DaleK
    
    John Key’s was similar.
    
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    May 9, 2023 12:52pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Hipkins is uninformed by design. He can’t answer or comment, so he escapes any difficult questions.
  Labour may be a bit thick, but they are cunning.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:16am
Close Hen Counters

Genuine question – who are the other people in the official royal family coronation snap? Apart from the obvious folks, who is the little lady being held up by Ed and Sophie and the other three to the left of Anne’s hubby? Is it traditional that the attending royal women wear white?
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May 9, 2023 10:32am
- BeaB
  
  Princess Alexandra. Daughter of the Duke of Kent who died in a plane crash in the war. She was a beautiful young woman, often in the magazines, and a hard-working Royal.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:41am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  QE11’s Cousin Princess Alexandra. She has done a lot of work supporting QE11 and is really down to earth. In her mid 80’s.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:42am
- BeaB
  
  They normally wear white at the coronation. The other three are her brother, the Duke of Kent, and the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester. Both of them royal dukes.
  Check out the Daily Mail. They have all the info you will ever need.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:44am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2023-05-08/official-coronation-portraits
  
  Names are listed in the pic of the “working” Royals:
  
  The Duke of Kent, The Duchess of Gloucester, The Duke of Gloucester, Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, The Princess Royal, The King, The Queen, The Prince of Wales, The Princess of Wales, The Duchess of Edinburgh, Princess Alexandra, the Hon. Lady Ogilvy, The Duke of Edinburgh.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:53am
  - Biscuit
    
    I always liked Princess Alexandra, Maggy.
    And never more so than, at the Coronation, she ‘took one for the team’, sat alongside the less-masculine half of the Suxxex clan and declined to even acknowlesge the prat let alone talk to it…
    
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    May 9, 2023 1:41pm
Rusty

Wasn’t it only a couple of years ago that Auckland had water restrictions because the dams weren’t full enough?

Some of the alarmists said we might never get enough rain full in the near future due to global warming/climate change.

Yeah right!
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May 9, 2023 10:37am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  There is nothing that human-caused CO2 emissions cannot do.
  
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  May 9, 2023 10:57am
- Anan Carpentie
  
  It was the same in Australia. Back in the Millenial Drought climate change experts predicted that Sydney’s dams would never again be full.
  
  https://www.smh.com.au/national/running-out-of-water-and-time-20050425-gdl6xe.html
  
  Of course the dams are full. The eastern seaboard of Australia, and especially Sydney have experienced record rainfall. In 2022 Sydney had its highest rainfall since its founding in 1788. 2530.0 mm of rain.
  
  http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/annual/nsw/sydney.shtml#:~:text=Total%20rainfall%20for%20Sydney%20(Observatory,2020%20average%20of%201145.8%20mm.
  
  This does not mean that climate change is no issue for Australia. Mean temperatures are increasing. However people are adapatable. Sydney has a large desalination plant (which has never been used since its construction). Also per capita consumption of water has drastically declined in Sydney over the last 30 years as people become more mindful about not wasting water.
  
  Also, Australia has the wealth to build more dams if they are needed.
  
  Message is – listen to the views of ‘experts’ but be wary if they start telling you end-of-the-world stories.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:06am
- Che Guava
  
  Heavy rainfall? Climate change
  Low rainfall? Climate change
  Something in between? We mustn’t be complacent about climate change.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:06am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    You forgot:
    
    Hot? Climate change.
    Cold? Climate change.
    Windy? Climate change
    Calm or still? Climate change
    Humid? Climate change
    
    And changing your rain thing slightly:
    
    Wet? Climate change
    Dry? Climate change?
    
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    May 9, 2023 11:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Before Watercare the Council emptied one dam for maintenance. It was on the schedule so it was done. The fact that Auckland had a water shortage and restrictions was irrelevant.
  No idea of how long ago.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:24am
Surely Knott

Twitter showing what they claim (unverified) is photos from Texas Shooter (Mauricio Garcia’s) social media showing he is indeed a neo nazi and aligned with hispanic neo nazi gangs. Also the driver of the Texas van George Alvarez is hispanic and according to bystanders shouted anti migrant slurs before he ran into them. Was he part of the same group/ideology?

A weird ideology indeed. So Hispanic people with Nazi slogans who hate who exactly – other migrants? I’m confused.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1655654338671288352
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May 9, 2023 11:02am
- Ghost
  
  Appears he was kicked out of the military not long after enlisting for mental health reasons.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:19am
- Che Guava
  
  Hispanics are, in general, notoriously anti-Black, but nobody cares because it’s not really about being anti-Black as such, its about accusing Whites of being anti-Black. In the same way, it’s not really about gun crime and mass shootings (disproportionately perpetrated by Black gang members on other gangsters), it’s painting White men as potential mass shooters. This is why nobody really cared too much about the recent transgender mass killer (and even excused the individual), because the profile of the crime was all wrong.
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:57am
  - Che Guava
    
    Saw a good quote today:
    
    “The demand for White supremacists is so high, we’ve had to outsource to Mexicans.”
    
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    May 9, 2023 1:26pm
  - Inandout
    
    CG, Arabs tradionally look down on black Africans, hence their success in the slave trade with a little help from tribal chiefs.
    
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    May 9, 2023 2:01pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Comment on Twitter mentions ‘….Mexican Nazi LARPers’. LOL.
  Does not really compute, but Oh Well.
  
  There are modern Slavic Nazi’s as well, and Nazi’s certainly had opinions and plans about Slavs.
  
  Hispanics never really much came into the Nazi world-view, aside from using South American bolt-holes when the Reich collapsed.
  
  Later in the war, the Waffen {armed} SS needed to recruit outside of Germany, rather than competing with the Armed Forces for manpower, so there were pragmatic enlistments of non-Germanics as things got desperate. Balkans, Ukrainians, Muslims, etc.
  ……Gotta get that cannon fodder.
  And the alliance with Japan required some sort of ‘honorary-Aryan’ ideological gymnastics as well.
  Spanish ‘fascists’ were strengthened by the Army of Africa, including Moroccans.
  And of course a Nazi-Soviet pact at one time.
  So the purity of race/ideology thing had a degree of ‘flex’ in there, even in the context of WW2.
  
  I suppose American Latinos that hate massed arrival of foreigners (open borders) for the same reasons as other Americans has a degree of logic to it.
  Just a bit weird with the cultural appropriation.
  Sombreros, big dropping mustaches and bandoliers would be more fitting.
  These particular folk on the link prefer the look of Hugo Boss.
  
  I think the term ‘White Supremacy’ would be widely missing the mark though.
  Xenophobia more likely, and nationalist maybe.
  Can’t always blame whitey.
  
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  May 9, 2023 1:12pm
Surely Knott

Academy Awards require

“Starting in 2024, a film has to meet certain diversity and inclusion standards in four different categories set out by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to be considered for “Best Picture” at the Oscars.

““On-screen Representation” is classified as at least one lead character from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group, having at least 30 percent of secondary roles be from two underrepresented groups or the main storyline has to focus on an underrepresented group.

According to the Academy, underrepresented groups include women, people of color, people who identify as LGBTQ+ or people with disabilities, and the new standards are meant to encourage diversity on and off the screen.

***The rules are wrong and ridiculous. But question. I would have thought the LGBTQI+ people are over represented in the film industry.

Where are the stats for their discrimination. How many LGBTQ people do they think are in the general population. How many are in the film industry. What constitutes LGB. If you kissed a girl once and you liked it , does Katy Perry qualify. Or do you have to be in a relationship. Imagine getting asked your sexual history at a job interview.
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May 9, 2023 11:11am
- Gravelroad
  
  I think it is terribly unfair and discriminatory that old people are not given special status for film roles.
  There must be film roles and awards for the elderly.
  Films must feature casts 30% made up of mature actors – to ensure age related diversity – including sex themes and scenes.
  #oldpeoplematter
  
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  May 9, 2023 11:27am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  These D&I efforts end up becoming contrived and ill-fitting, and ironically uncomfortable and racist.
  
  So if there was a film being made about the conflict in Yemen from the POV of a family caught in famine and airstrikes, you would consider that 100% met because they are not straight white men? (Because D&I only really means Less Straight White Men).
  Or since the Arab cast is homogenous culturally and ethnically/i.e NOT diverse do you have to introduce a lesbian romance, and have someone ‘differently abled’ on crutches?
  Or an Eskimo travelling salesman?
  extra points if the Eskimo is gender fluid?
  
  Shoe-horn in all those groups, because it is not possible to enjoy a story unless you are ‘represented’ in it.
  Kind of like D&I means people are presumably not comfortable if their doctor is not the same race as them, or their teacher in front of the class is not the same race as them.
  Race and identity politics is everything.
  This is why you need to ‘race-swap’ characters even in historical contexts.
  …But only when it means replacing a White Devil. Martin Luther King or Shaka Zulu is never going to be a Scotsman.
  
  You should always look at everything through the context of your own race, and the race of people seen around you, and the outcome for members of your own race.
  Y’know…..D&I taken to Full Retard kind of means being a dedicated racist.
  
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  May 9, 2023 1:27pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  “On-screen Representation” is classified as at least one lead character from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
  
  As if The Rock needed more screen time.
  
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  May 9, 2023 8:21pm
Swifty

“High Court orders man to fulfill the responsibilities he freely, voluntarily and willingly signed up to.”

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/300872711/auckland-man-says-627699-fee-for-property-loan-he-didnt-borrow-is-unfair

But according to Stuff’s headline he is some sort of victim.

If he didn’t like the terms he shouldn’t have bloody agreed to them!

(And I wager $1,000 bucks Stuff enforces their contracts when parties they deal with try to renege on them.)
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May 9, 2023 11:48am
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION….

Will the dopey Speaker allow ‘Te-Maori-Pardy’ to perform a Powhiri when Meka enters the House at the start of QT?

Asking for a friend 😀
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May 9, 2023 12:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh I do hope so..
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/te-p-ti-m-ori-ceremony-in-parliament-to-mark-meka-whaitiri-crossing-floor-would-be-grandstanding-labour-s-peeni-henare-says.html
  
  It will make such a wonderful distraction for the media….and we won’t have to be regaled with nasty facts about our dire economy.
  
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  May 9, 2023 12:32pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!!
    My partner said Meka’s arrival could be choreographed like that of a UFC [Wh]ightiri entering the ring 😀 😀 😀
    
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    May 9, 2023 12:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Can you understand all this money stuff, MP?
      
      Lower-than-expected tax revenues and a failure by the Government to sell any carbon credits at an auction in March have dented the Crown’s accounts ahead of next week’s Budget.
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/131987580/tax-shortfall-and-cheaper-carbon-credits-dent-crown-accounts-ahead-of-budget
      
      Honestly, it’s so tedious…and they always end up interviewing some boring bloke in a suit.
      
      I’d rather see Meka and Liz.
      
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      May 9, 2023 12:57pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        TBH Maggz, I leave all that sort of thing to my partner.
        Providing I never see ‘declined’ on my Amex Black I couldn’t give a sh*t 😛
        
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        May 9, 2023 1:07pm
      - mogg
        
        Economic crisis; Origami Bank has folded, Sumo Bank has gone belly up, Karioki Bank is going for a song, Bonsai bank has to cut some branches.
        
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        May 9, 2023 3:45pm
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    Well, that went well, didn’t it!
    
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    May 9, 2023 3:20pm
- kowtow
  
  Will be just another act in the perpetual clown show that these cos play morons have turned the House of Unrepresentatives into .
  
  Twould be great if some fun loving MP could blow a clown horn from under cover while they’re at it.
  
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  May 9, 2023 1:14pm
BeaB

Is the Speaker’s helpful advice on how to jump ship available to all MPs or just Māori?
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May 9, 2023 1:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From my FB.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I3JsCEMQK1M
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May 9, 2023 1:20pm
Maggie Pie

Somebody was say Mayor Brown is in Sydney!
No wonder the whole place is flooded.

FARK…..wait till Simon Wilson finds out where he is 🙁
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May 9, 2023 1:21pm
krazykiwi

Another State of Emergency in Auckland. Perhaps we can keep these permanently in the calendar, to reduce the overhead of declaring and cancelling them.
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May 9, 2023 1:29pm
- kowtow
  
  Tonga volcano .
  
  The science said so.
  
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  May 9, 2023 3:39pm
Swifty

As far as I’m concerned if you win election for an electorate seat in Parliament under a party banner and you leave that party mid-term you lose your mandate to represent that electorate.

To regain your mandate you must win a subsequent by-election.

Also, in the case of a list MP, if you leave the party then you’re out of Parliament in my view and are replaced by the person next on that party’s list.

Both Whaitiri and Kerekere have lost their mandate as MPs in my opinion.

Both have no place in our Parliament. They currently have no mana in that place.
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May 9, 2023 1:30pm
- mandk
  
  Mana, schmana!
  
  What they have got is an MP’s salary and perks until October.
  
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  May 9, 2023 3:21pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Hear hear, what that Man said.
  If you leave the Party that voted you in, you are SACKING yourself! DCM.
  Same with the List. The List stays the same. Difference here is those “Elected” by Votes and those who the voter has no control over.
  The Governing Party loses one vote – any Party the same.
  Swifty says MP replaced by the next on the list. Trouble on the horizon – List creates havoc for MP to leave!
  Bottom line is ‘sacking’ yourself.
  
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  May 9, 2023 5:30pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Warren Buffet thinks EV manufacturers are in trouble. For example, GM lost $722m last quarter on EVs.

Meanwhile, Berkshire Hathaway boosted its share of Occidental Petroleum to 23.6%.

Warren Buffet, eh. What would he know about business.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Warren-Buffett-Sees-Uncertainty-In-The-EV-Market.html

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Buffett-Will-Not-Seek-Control-Of-Occidental-Petroleum.html
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May 9, 2023 1:32pm
- Swifty
  
  Berkshire has a big stake in a Chinese EV maker, has for years. Or he did.
  
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  May 9, 2023 6:11pm
Ghost

Absolutely vulgar of the Māori party to interfere in the motion to the King.

Good on him for kicking Rawiri out of the house, and Debbie as well
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May 9, 2023 2:08pm
- Gravelroad
  
  The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
  Aren’t they clever.
  Shame our voices don’t matter.
  
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  May 9, 2023 3:17pm
Right of way is Way of Right

Gee, when was the last time an entire parliamentary party was expelled.from the house?
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May 9, 2023 2:10pm
- Ghost
  
  Umm, when David Seymour was the single act politician and would get kicked out by mallard?
  
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  May 9, 2023 2:13pm
Chuck Bird

Did anyone hear the two clowns in the Maori Party disrupt events when leaders of other parties were congratulating His Majesty the King?

The Speaker booted them out.
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May 9, 2023 2:27pm
- kowtow
  
  The only thing missing was a couple of hoot hoot’s from a clown horn to accompany them on their way out.
  
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  May 9, 2023 3:26pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  How many more stunts before the election? I imagine today’s will be seen as particularly tame in comparison
  
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  May 9, 2023 4:25pm
Ghost

Dear Auckland

We regret to inform you that Kieran McAnulty is in charge of your flooding.

Please feel free to realise you are screwed and might as well head to the kiwiblog emergency shelter at Maggie Pie’s house in Remuera
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May 9, 2023 2:28pm
- Lance
  
  Not sure who was responsible for the phone alert of impending heavy rainfall, but it came through 20 minutes after the rain burst had come and gone.
  
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  May 9, 2023 4:24pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Important to be seen to be doing something however pointless lest the Karens congregate and start to shrieking. https://youtu.be/bDe9msExUK8?t=116
    
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    May 9, 2023 4:49pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That would have been ‘Mugless Douglas’
    
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    May 9, 2023 5:40pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/meka-whaitiri-in-parliament-with-maori-party-co-leaders-booted-out-of-the-house-after-unsolicited-powhiri/

My question is, how can the Maori Party carry out a powhiri to welcome a member, when that member is not officially a member of that party, but an Independent?
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May 9, 2023 3:32pm
- Ghost
  
  She stood to give a personal explanation and said she has joined the Māori party
  
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  May 9, 2023 3:33pm
Ghost

Must buy some more popcorn, at least the usa politics are interesting

Comer To Reveal Evidence Wednesday On Biden Family Receiving Money In Exchange For Policy

Comer has scheduled a press conference for Wednesday that he says will lay out an array of evidence. That is the deadline for the FBI to produce a document that Comer says exists which shows policy actions taken in exchange for money: bribery, which is specifically mentioned in the Constitution as a reason for impeachment.

Comer says that he has evidence that the Department of Justice has not bothered looking into, evidence that the Biden family has a “web of LLCs” that have taken in millions and millions of dollars from foreign countries in exchange for policy actions. He worries that the DoJ will indict Hunter Biden on some relatively minor crimes in order to refuse to comment or produce evidence related to a prosecution underway.

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May 9, 2023 4:01pm
Maggie Pie

My partner said he can understand why Kiri decided to trade up….

https://rnz.co.nz/national/presenters/mani-dunlop

……quite hot he reckons.
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May 9, 2023 4:03pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Kiri’s previous “wife” Natalie Coates was easy on the eye.
  
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  May 9, 2023 5:50pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Oh really? Thort it was Meka….puts it round a bit then 😛
    
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    May 9, 2023 6:40pm
Ghost

Why the hell would you take students caving when you must have looked at the weather report and seen what was coming, insane. Best of luck to the searchers I hope this has a happy ending.

A teenage student is unaccounted for – believed to have been swept away by floodwaters at Abbey Caves in Whangārei.

Stuff understands the year 11 Whangārei Boys High School student and at least 14 of his classmates were on an outdoor education school trip at the caves, on Abbey Caves Rd, on Tuesday.

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May 9, 2023 4:16pm
- Ghost
  
  So the weather was bad enough to cancel the rock climbing but not the caving……
  
  A student swept away on a school caving trip was meant to be rock climbing, but bad weather forced the trip underground instead, Stuff can reveal.
  
  The year 11-Whangārei Boys’ High School student remains unaccounted for, more than six hours after the outdoor education class he was with got into trouble in Abbey Caves, near Whangārei.
  
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  May 9, 2023 5:57pm
Swifty

“Waititi said Rurawhe’s reaction was proof. “This place is not a safe place for our people.””

Tell that to Winston and many many others. He’s dominated it for over 40 years.

The Maori Party clown show just keeps rolling on……..

They are a joke.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300874083/mori-party-coleaders-kicked-out-of-the-house-over-welcome-for-meka-whaitiri
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May 9, 2023 4:31pm
- Ghost
  
  Maybe you are misunderstanding him and he means it’s not a safe place for idiots who have no respect for procedures of the house, not Māori?
  
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  May 9, 2023 4:33pm
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    I can’t rule that out Ghost.
    
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    May 9, 2023 5:16pm
Ghost

Hansard is now up where it is obvious she is not an independent

The decision to cross the floor to join Te Paati Māori was not an easy decision. But, for my whānau and I, it was the right decision. It is time to put our whakapapa first, to return to our people, to serve and work for our people—the calling that comes deep from within my puku.

Personal Explanations — Hon Meka Whaitiri
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May 9, 2023 4:36pm
- Keith White
  
  I was not aware that diverticulitis could be that career-specific in its symptom-signalling.
  
  Must have slept through that lecture.
  
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  May 9, 2023 5:02pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

NZs got a problem handling strong Maori Women.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/nz-s-got-a-problem-handling-strong-m%C4%81ori-women-commentator-on-meka-whaitiri/ar-AA1aVam1

UM, nope. We have a problem with “bullies” Why? Because for too long they have got away with it. We hurt their feelings if we stand up to them!
Then (depending on who it is) “You are Racist!”
Sick of it! Over this bullshit!
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May 9, 2023 4:54pm
Drone

From a press release today https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/pioneering-green-investor-gets-significant-boost by that erudite green James Shaw:

1. Budget 2023 will support funding for emissions reductions with a $300 million boost to New Zealand Green Investment Finance Ltd
2. The bigger balance sheet creates a greater opportunity to develop low carbon projects, drive down emissions, and create green jobs
3. Takes NZGIF’s pool of capital to $700 million, making NZGIF one of the largest direct investors in New Zealand focused on climate change

As usual a pool of money for a politician to splash around probably with little or no audit trail or long term results. I note that at today’s EV rebate rate approx 375,000 Tesla purchasers could be going to benefit. What the country needs is innovation and adaption not more Teslas or trees.
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May 9, 2023 4:58pm
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  Where you read “create green jobs” replace with “deliver net reduction in jobs”. The job creation tosh is one of the more egregious bits of green mysticism.
  
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  May 9, 2023 5:34pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Oh, they’re focussed on ‘climate change’, are they? How much will these hundreds of millions of dollars change the climate?
  I wonder how many reports have been done that indicate what bit of climate will change, and by how much.
  I’d bet zero.
  
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  May 9, 2023 7:28pm
MCōs

Last evening after my wife had a laugh at the Asians trying to sneak their food into Oz on Border Security I switched over to the Coronation Concert.
I watched for half an hour.
I thought it was just awful. How can the Royal Family possibly put up with this this stuff.
Or maybe British rock is too sophisticated for your correspondent
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May 9, 2023 6:39pm
- Ghost
  
  I listened to Lionel Richie, thought he sounded crap.
  
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  May 9, 2023 6:47pm
- Sparrow
  
  I thought it was just me I completely agree with you. What I found interesting was the number of yanks and not very good ones performing. Are all top Brit entertainers republicans ? Curious.
  
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  May 9, 2023 7:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/tucker-carlson-readies-for-war-against-fox-news/
Watch your back Carlson.
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May 9, 2023 6:50pm
Ghost

Time will tell

President John Tamihere was coy on whether any more Labour MPs would be jumping ship.

“That’s something they’re going to have to talk to you about very shortly,” he told Newshub.

But Prime Minister Chris Hipkins said: “I’ve spoken to a number of our Māori members and I’ve not seen any evidence to back up that speculation.”

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May 9, 2023 7:24pm
Inthe09

Jason Paris of Vodafone (sorry One) calling people names? Surely not.

We have far to many second-rate CEOs in this Country who need to focus more on their business results and less on lecturing the rest of us on what is right and wrong.
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May 9, 2023 7:51pm
Anan Carpentie

FFS.

These “Lawyers for Climate Action” will be living in the wealthiest suburbs of Wellington and driving high end cars. Guarantee it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131993701/government-faces-lawsuit-for-keeping-a-lid-on-price-of-gas-petrol?cx_testId=28&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_s

“A group of climate-concerned lawyers is suing the Government, alleging ministers acted in breach of their own climate laws.”
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