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Warren

Experience warn of Capital Gains Tax Complexities after Inland Revenue Report.
Has David Parker used this tax data to mislead New Zealander’s, I ask this question because why would former Deputy Commissioner of IRD and now head of the tax advisory firm OliverShaw say the report did not have the necessary data and made to many assumptions to be useful in helping form good tax policies.
It is therefore likely to paint a misleading picture of our tax system making it seem broken when it is not.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/experts-warn-of-capital-gains-tax-complexities-after-inland-revenue-report.html
Why would a report Commissioned by David Parker be just tossed in the to hard basket and not used as a vote catcher for the upcoming election if you didn’t intend to use it and why has the Prime Minister Chris Hipkins distanced himself from the report before he talks with Business and their Leader this morning.
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April 27, 2023 8:00am
- Warren
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131871273/pm-to-hose-down-speculation-labour-wants-new-taxes-in-prebudget-speech
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:42am
- pdm
  
  Warren perhaps Oliver Shaw does not yet understand that this Government does not function by using facts.
  
  Ideology does the job for them and to hell with the consequences for ordinary New Zealanders.
  
  They must get this ENVY tax under way.
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:48am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Personally I don’t like him, I don’t trust him. I don’t know what it is that does this, but I just sort of see trouble. Associate Minister of Finance so he is Robertson’s lapdog.
  I see CGT sort of creeping up on us. Has he looked at how it operates in other Countries? or is he doing it his and Grant’s way?
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:04am
  - RoboRob
    
    Of all the Labour MPs, Parker is the one that personally rubs me up the wrong way the most. I think he is possbily the smartest member in the party. I also dont trust him and that makes him scarey.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:24am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  Why ? Labour had to do something to distract voters from the co governance/government 3rd rail. That’s why the socialist envy tax dead rat is on the table.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:24am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    The Obama folk used to refer to this as the “stray voltage strategy”.
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:32am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Warren bro – “Tax them to death” Parker and “Bread and Butter” Chippy are playing bad cop-good cop game to fool the already low IQ sheeple of this country. Many sheeple are now crying rich are not paying enough tax. Clever game by Labour to win 2023 election.
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:02pm
Simon

Where is the low income tax free band from National as those vile turds on the left attack the productive NZ middle class?

When is Luxon / National going to fight back against these constant attacks and harm inflicted upon society by the left?

Labo gets IRD to produce a piece of shit to attack the productive and no fight back. Where are the policies from National for the productive? Why is Luxon so fucking useless?
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April 27, 2023 8:08am
- Ian Boag
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Where is the low income tax free band …
  
  Do the sums. Someone on $200k gets much more from this than someone on $40k. The same is true for shifts in the middle income tax brackets.
  
  Go figure.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:12am
  - RoboRob
    
    Not they dont. They get exactly the same reduction in tax. Perhaps you dont understand how the tax system works?
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:25am
    - Ian Boag
      
      The suns. A 30k (or whatever) low income zero-tax band reduces one’s taxable income by 30k.
      
      For someone on 50k paying 17.5% marginal rate that’s a tax saving of 30*.175 = about 5k.
      
      For someone on 200k with a 39% marginal rate, that’s a tax saving of 30*.39 = about 11k.
      
      Not a very efficient way for govt to reduce the tax burden on low incomes … for every dollar you give low income people you give two dollars to high income people.
      
      WFF works better and costs less.
      
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      April 27, 2023 1:59pm
      - RoboRob
        
        Only just saw your reply. Hope you see this.
        
        Thats not how it works at all.
        
        (Made up tax ranges becuase I dont know what the real ones and cant be arsed looking them up)
        
        Everyone pays 17.5% for the first n (lets say 30, 000) Then those that earn over 30k pay 33% on the money they earn over 30k
        
        A person earning 30,100 would pay 17.5% of 30k = 5250 + 33% of 100 = 33 for a total of 5283
        
        A person earning 100,000 would pay 17.5% of 30k = 5250 + 33% of 70,000 = 23,100 for a total of 28,350
        
        If National makes the first 20,000 tax free this changes to
        
        A person earning 30,100 would pay 17.5% of 10k (30k-20k) = 1750 + 33% of 100 = 33 for a total of 1783 (a saving of 3,500)
        
        A person earning 100,000 would pay 17.5% of 10k (30-20k) = 1750 + 33% of 70,000 = 23,100 for a total of 24,850 (a saving of 3,500)
        
        As you see both earners save the same $ value of tax. The higher earner saves a lower percentage of overall tax, which is ‘progressive’.
        
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        April 28, 2023 10:26am
      - Ian Boag
        
        @Roborob
        
        Just saw your reply too 🙂
        
        If a 20k (or whatever) tax-free band was introduced and all the other bands were left where they are now, the net effect would be to reduce your taxable income by 20k.
        
        For someone paying 17.5% the tax reduction would be 20×17.5% = about 3.5k.
        
        For someone on 200k with a marginal rate of 39% the saving is 20*39% = about 7.5k
        
        If your taxable income reduces, the decrease in tax paid is at your top marginal rate …
        
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        April 28, 2023 12:35pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    So what? Seriously. They pay more tax. Of course they benefit from reductions in tax. That’s only fair, surely?
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:28am
    - Ian Boag
      
      That’s only fair, surely?
      
      Absolutely. Just it seems a bit weird when the 200k person gets twice as many $$ back as the 50k person.
      
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      April 27, 2023 2:52pm
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Funny story:
        The $50,000 person pays $8,020 tax
        The $200,000 person pays $58,120 tax
        
        So the $200,000 person pays 7 times as much tax (for the same services).
        
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        April 27, 2023 3:11pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Here you go Ian
        https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/wound-care/how-to-treat-a-burn-at-home
        
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        April 27, 2023 3:32pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Go and look, i have just watched Luxon blast these idiots, he said the only thing unfair is their wasteful spending on tax payers, and he quite purposely said that capital gain on unsold assets is not an earning
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:16am
  - cmm
    
    This is the biggest point. The government should not be getting more tax if they are just wasting it.
    
    But, for the envious voters and beneficiaries (Labour’s core support base), the idea of making some abstract “rich pricks” hand over money to them is rather appealing.
    
    Waste is rather an abstract concept. Huge numbers of people are beneficiaries of the waste.
    
    We see waste when there is a massive spend up on advertising campaigns which attract 3 nurses from overseas. To the advertising consultants this looks like income.
    
    Nobody really cares about waste if they are getting some of it.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:45am
    - Che Guava
      
      The biggest beneficiaries of “government” assistance are the very rich, and the very poor. Not just in terms of direct handouts but, in the case of the rich, other benefits through regulations and other policies and protections that they “lobby” to receive. Meanwhile, there is a common notion out there that if a government does anything at all for the middle, this somehow makes the system “Communist” or “Marxist.” Bizarre.
      
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      April 27, 2023 10:56am
    - Bridgenag
      
      Especially if the mandated nurses are not given their jobs back
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:45am
  - mawm
    
    So is Luxon supportive of a CGT on an item when it is sold? This becomes a very “unfair” tax as exemptions get given for all sorts of things depending on what vote they want to court. Personally I believe that if it is implemented the family home must be included. It will be horribly unpopular and might make people think about what they are voting for.
    
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    April 27, 2023 11:19am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Luxon has ruled out ever introducing a new tax, end of story.
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:44am
      - Matt Long
        
        Key ruled out an increase in GST.
        
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        April 27, 2023 3:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Luxon is useless because he is Labour Lite. He is chasing the center left vote while real Labour chases the far rabid left – the extreme left.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:33am
  - Warren
    
    Without the centre left vote you can’t win the election and if Chris Luxon does win you will still find something to criticize him for Steve.
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:15am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      If he wins I will get off his back. He needs to show leadership. I don’t see it.
      
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      April 27, 2023 10:59am
      - Ian Boag
        
        So who is your favourite for Nat leader Steve?
        
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        April 27, 2023 2:54pm
- thirteenstars
  
  The better question for National is will they repeal the legislation passed under COVID urgency that gave IRD the invasive investigative powers to compile this report?
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:38am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Pretty sure they said this morning the legislation was for this $5million (wasted fishing expedition) only.
    
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    April 27, 2023 11:47am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Call me old-fashioned but I don’t trust “they”, whoever they are.
      
      Special powers have a nasty habit of being morphed into regular powers.
      
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      April 27, 2023 12:02pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It was Hosking talking to Nightingale on the tax paper, they said the legislation was for this paper only
        
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        April 27, 2023 1:40pm
- Paulus
  
  Patience Simon – in any business and politics timing is the most important thing, and until after the Budget it will be the time for National to come forward with policy.
  Anything earlier will be taken by Labour.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:19am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Simon – Luxon has no backbone. I said before “Luxon is Jacinda with no hair”.
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Covid and Fauci. Before Fauci got hold of it, covid didn’t infect humans, only animals. Then Fauci got an idea, so he tweaked covid to make it bind to people.

https://gopnewsfeed.com/former-cdc-director-drops-shocking-bombshell/
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April 27, 2023 8:16am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Fauci has lied repeatedly for 3 years. He’s been caught lying repeatedly for 3 years but apparently no consequences.
  
  Similarly in NZ. Politicians and “experts” like Michael Baker get caught blatantly and repeatedly lying . They broke lockdown rules. They breach cabinet rules. There is a stench of nepotism pervading parliament. No consequences.
  
  Is it any wonder there is collapsing trust in all of the institutions that are supposed to bond our society together?
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:25am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Interesting aint it, Shut down the entire Globe on his “Say so” with WHO declaring a Pandemic.
    Along with the “useful Idiots” in charge of UK, US, NZ, Canada and Australia all “Singing the same song” with there messaging. ( aka 5 eyes).
    In addition , Why did not Dr Redfield get more airtime as Director of CDC ?
    A question,
    Was Fauci played along and dug himself so deep that he could not get out ?
    My “Conspiracy Theory” would suggest there was more to it than meets the eye.
    Look at the “stake holders” involved.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:04am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Fauci is still digging that hole, looking for an escape route.
      
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      April 27, 2023 9:38am
- KH
  
  Steve. Your headline is not supported in the article. You have made a great leap of wishful thinking.
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I am not following what you mean.
    The text “Before Fauci got hold of it, covid didn’t infect humans, only animals. Then Fauci got an idea, so he tweaked covid to make it bind to people.” is a copy and paste from a Tweet by Philip Schuyler, in the item.
    Not supported? It is there in black and white. Did you not read it?
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:45am
    - KH
      
      Yes I did. And the Schuyler tweet just appears there, with as little connection to the article as your repeating it.
      Pays not to repeat such leaps of imagination.
      
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      April 27, 2023 10:48am
      - mawm
        
        KH – If you look at the original application for the research grant by Peter Daszak and the annual ones made thereafter to continue the research you will note that essentially it was to alter the covid virus to be able to infect humans by adding the spike thus enabling the attachment to the ACE receptor in human lungs. They were also attempting to increase the infection mortality rate to somewhere near that of ebola.
        
        All those documents have been released under FOIA. Probably the only thing Steve Otto got wrong is that it was Fauci’s idea. More likely Ralph Baric’s idea.
        
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        April 27, 2023 12:25pm
- mawm
  
  Steve – The US has been breaking the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons. They have been doing this outside the CONUS. Why have they had all these laboratories in Ukraine? Because Ukraine has no legislation to prevent bioweapon research. Now we find out that Sudan had one. Who else?
  
  There can be no doubt that “gain of function” research is bioweapon research. The US DARPA has been sponsoring this (and Fauci). Obama quite correctly called a halt to it in the US, but the military continued pursuing it. Maybe there was a wink and a nod from the administration but plausible deniability for having called a halt to it.
  
  What is becoming more and more apparent is that the US military/intelligence/industrial complex are a law unto themselves…..and they are evil people with too much power who will do what they want without any form of civilian oversight. The members of the 5 eyes and NATO have either been hoodwinked or forced into becoming participants in their pursuit of world domination.
  
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  April 27, 2023 12:15pm
Maggie Pie

We’ve got a dedicated ‘Home-Gym’ set up in what was once the old Billiard Room. And with 5 toilets in the house, things never become an issue.

A lot of girls from tennis used to go to Les Mills….NOT ANY MORE!!

https://twitter.com/PatriotNz2022/status/1651180743165616128
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April 27, 2023 8:18am
- pdm
  
  Maggy – whomever is running Mills Gyms is either, queer, nuts or probably both.
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:24am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP!
    
    As my partner said….”ol’ Les would be spinning in his grave” LOL
    
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    April 27, 2023 8:27am
    - Gravelroad
      
      This is all about the money.
      Market your business to attract who you think are going to be your best paying, high profile customers.
      Not likely going to be solo parents living in poverty or people working long hours in a factory.
      
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      April 27, 2023 8:37am
    - MCōs
      
      ‘ol’ Les is still alive.
      
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      April 27, 2023 9:08am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I checked, you are correct. He is 88/89.
        I reckon he should tell these fruits to sort their shit out!
        
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        April 27, 2023 9:58am
      - MCōs
        
        Give him a ring and tell him yourself.
        
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        April 27, 2023 12:30pm
- PeterB
  
  Yuk. Going broke by being woke?
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:24am
  - mawm
    
    I wonder long it will be before Luxon comes out in support of Les Mills. Or will he grow a spine and denounce this clap trap.
    
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    April 27, 2023 12:31pm
- graham
  
  “In a time of unprecedented hate and violence against our transgender and GNC (gender non-conforming) community …”
  
  Really? I wonder if they have any actual stats to back that up, or if they’re just parroting the narrative that a few vocal people are trying to get going.
  
  Sounds similar to the claims that Jacinda Ardern faced “unprecedented” hate and vitriol as Prime Minister – a claim which is demonstrably false.
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:28am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    graham – we are living 1984 in real time.
    
    Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes truth.
    
    The only hate comes directly from the extremist who have hijacked the rainbow community. They are liars and they are causing massive division in society.
    There is no hatred towards them, sadly though, that may well be an outcome that will be directly related to their extreme and obnoxious claims and behaviour. Action/reaction. That’s how it goes.
    It isn’t good for any of us.
    
    Same happened with covid.
    
    Same is happening with co-governance.
    
    This is happening directly and indirectly due to actions (and inaction) of this government. Why? Are they incompetent or are they malicious?
    
    I’m pretty sure we are all feeling this increasing anxiety about the direction things seem to be heading in, not just in NZ, but in the west in general. Our democratic structures seem to be failing on every level.
    The opposition seem to be in lockstep with the government, there is certainly very little difference between the two sides.
    
    I believe money has infiltrated our governments, education systems, health systems – every structure we have built that is meant to manage on behalf of society.
    
    Why are so many global politicians (including a few here in NZ, notably Ardern) tied to the undemocratic WEF?
    
    Why was Ardern visiting Blackrock during her visit to the US?
    
    There is undoubtedly a push towards global governance. No conspiracy.
    This is not organic. This is being funded. The latest horrific plan is to give the unelected WHO the power to control future “pandemic” responses. No conspiracy.
    
    Our democratic systems are either being run by completely incompetent idiots who you wouldn’t let use the remote control for the telly, or there is an agenda to remove true democracy from us.
    
    Probably another “conspiracy theory”. Keep your eye on it, things are moving apace.
    
    To paraphrase the Chinese curse – “We are living in interesting times.”
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:42am
    - GJM
      
      The difference between conspiracy theories and conspiracy facts is around 6 months…
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:56am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I suppose that when you indulge enough people living in an alternative reality, there will (to them at least) be trannies dying in the streets.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:43am
  - Ehlana
    
    I think this may also be a time of unprecedented hate, if not yet violence, against ram raiders and other thieves.
    
    Maybe because something they are doing is making people hate them?
    
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    April 27, 2023 1:28pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I hate very few people, but I particularly don’t like the transgender school shooter that has mysteriously disappeared from all news media.
    
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    April 27, 2023 1:38pm
    - Ghost
      
      Still in the US media, I was just reading an article on her an hour ago
      
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      April 27, 2023 1:47pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      He’s one tranny the media don’t want to fawn over. Completely missing the mental health issue all this tranny bullshit involves, and its consequences, like this case. Trans are mental health cases and should be treated as such. Not celebrities.
      
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      April 28, 2023 12:20am
- ClanMcleod
  
  MP – this group within society seem to cause totally disproportionate grief for the rest of us trying to get on with our lives. They are tiny in number.
  
  Leave them to play on their own and for any business who is negatively affected? Go woke, go broke.
  I don’t discriminate against anyone, but no, men don’t get to share women’s spaces. End of story, and anyone who permits it loses my business.
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:29am
  - Nukuleka
    
    As a 70 something male I would love to have the balls (metaphorically speaking) to use the new gender- identifying law to change my birth certificate to female and play the woke at their own game. Turn up to Les Mills with my new birth certificate and insist that I be allowed to use the female facilities according to my newly- acquired gender identity. 6 ft bald man with all his masculine parts intact but with a birth certificate legally identifying him to be a woman. What could go wrong with that scenario?
    
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    April 27, 2023 8:41am
    - pdm
      
      Nuku – this tweet from Maggy’s link may help you fast track your idea.
      
      “All right, lads. Let’s go check out some fit hotties. Here, put on this dress…” and so it begins…
      
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      April 27, 2023 8:54am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I posted same below. Did not read your comment first. Sorry.
        
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        April 27, 2023 9:53am
      - pdm
        
        No worries Steve.
        
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        April 27, 2023 11:27am
    - MCōs
      
      “I would love to have the balls”
      
      So, you’re all talk?
      
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      April 27, 2023 12:40pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Couldn’t agree more Clan. The whole world is being turned upside down.
    
    In fact, I’d be ok with it if Jesus came now.
    
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    April 27, 2023 8:42am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Maggie Pie – I’m not religious, but I’ve no doubt he’d be better than the shower of shit running the place right now. Apparently he had principles that are clearly lacking right now.
      
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      April 27, 2023 8:56am
      - Che Guava
        
        This is a spiritual battle. Truth, Goodness and Beauty, versus their antitheses. Get religious, now.
        
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        April 27, 2023 11:05am
      - krazykiwi
        
        The word religion hails from reliog; verb -“I bind fast”. I suggest that binding fast to religious organisations is a poor second to binding fast to personal faith. But you’re spot on regarding this being a battle.
        
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        April 27, 2023 1:03pm
  - graham
    
    This is the part that many of these clowns just don’t seem to understand.
    
    The vast majority of people really don’t care what others do in their private lives, or for that matter in gay clubs, bars, and other places that are set up or have made a decision to cater to these people. But when they start vehemently insisting that absolutely everybody must bow down and cater to their particular whims, and everybody else has to change just for them, people are going to get pissed off.
    
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    April 27, 2023 8:52am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Sooner or later someone is going to identify as the tooth fairy.
      
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      April 27, 2023 9:51am
      - Ghost
        
        What’s wrong with identifying as a Tooth fairy
        
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        April 27, 2023 10:00am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Ghost, you know what I mean. Good link!
        
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        April 27, 2023 10:02am
      - graham
        
        Why not? We already have people identifying as elves, wolves, foxes, and all sorts of other creatures or beings.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin
        https://nypost.com/2022/01/31/woman-is-spiritually-a-wolf-but-refrains-from-howling/
        
        Even more bizarrely, some people identify as weather – clouds or rain, for example.
        
        https://www.vice.com/en/article/zmbeae/i-look-at-a-cloud-and-i-see-it-as-me-the-people-who-identify-as-objects
        
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        April 27, 2023 10:06am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @Graham,
        I have said before – 70 now and plan to clock out in 20 years. I will be rid of this madness. Must be something in the water.
        I feel a bot sorry for the young, say 20. They have to put up with 70 years of this shit.
        
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        April 27, 2023 11:16am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Tooth Fairies don’t just collect teeth, they take them out…..
        
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        April 27, 2023 2:49pm
    - Che Guava
      
      “The vast majority of people really don’t care what others do in their private lives,..”
      
      This is a complete fallacy. When you live in a society, everyone’s actions necessarily affect everyone else’s. Nobody lives in private, they live in public. If we are to have transgenders, then we need trans-friendly bathrooms; if we have homosexuality, then we need gay bars and pride parades,and so on – all public. The reason we have people thinking they are transgender, and people accepting their delusion, is because all criteria for what is considered acceptable have been long ago placed into the “live and let live” category (i.e. the too hard basket). This is how we have come to have a far-left societal “morality” (though it’s really an amorality).
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:10am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Next time you go Shaneen Lal will be leading the class!!!
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:54am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @fighting-
    Yeah, but what toilet will he/she/they use?
    That is the most important issue here relating to the Les Mills gym turbulence.
    They must have access to women’s toilets.
    It defines who they are…………ffs.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:25am
    - Bridgenag
      
      The Blokes at bowls said bushes planted nearby could sort it……….
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:50am
  - Paulus
    
    Who is she ?
    
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    April 27, 2023 11:21am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, seems Muslim women remain female.
  https://www.dignitii.com/collections/modest-workout-clothes-for-muslim-women
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:23am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  From the comments:
  “All right, lads. Let’s go check out some fit hotties. Here, put on this dress…” and so it begins…
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:49am
- JohnRidd
  
  I think it is time we all stood up for the rights of women. As more people become aware of what is going on there will be more and more push back.
  
  Any one interested in some facts about the trans issue should check out
  
  https://www.transgendertrend.com/
  
  At the very least you should download and read “The Tavistock’s Experimentation with Puberty Blockers”
  
  A lot of the claims being made are not backed by evidence.
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:30pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Doesn’t your partner play billiards anymore?
  
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  April 27, 2023 7:44pm
nathie

Labour Ram-Raids the Rich!

Like a ram-raider, Labour are lazy and entitled, they want to thieve what isn’t theirs and penalise those that work hard taking risks to get to where they are!
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April 27, 2023 8:26am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Yesterday’s GD:
ClanMcleod
The more the attacks by mainstream media, the more you know the subject is over the target and is doing something good.
Members Of The House Say The Biden’s Profited From Human Trafficking And Prostitution. Are the crooked Bidens finally going for a skate?

https://billingsreport.com/biden-family-profited-from-human-trafficking-scheme-house-investigators-say/
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April 27, 2023 8:30am
- Che Guava
  
  Who really cares about Biden? Or Trump for that matter? Politicians are figureheads. They don’t really have much actual influence, and so we should be much more interested in investigating the crooked goings-on that characterise the paradigm they administer for those who really wield the power. But that will never happen, because who would investigate them? Nobody.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:17am
Scott

What happened to Tucker Carlson? His firing was a bombshell in the media because Tucker was a ratings juggernaut with over 3 million viewers. He was the highest rating host in all of cable news.

It seems that Tucker was a threat to the narrative. The narrative is the stance that news media take on an issue. The narrative is dominated by Trump. Trump is a horrible person who is totally unfit to be president of the United States. That’s the narrative.
The January 6th protests were a deadly insurrection where Trump waged war on our democracy. That’s the narrative.

Tucker got the January 6th videos from House speaker Kevin McCarthy. He promised bombshell revelations. On Monday 6th March he delivered. We saw the so called Qanon shaman escorted peacefully by police officers through the capital buildings. As a result he was released from prison.

The police officer, Brian Sicknick, who was allegedly killed by insurrectionists, was seen alive and well on tape after he had supposedly died. It seems he died later of natural causes.

These were bombshell revelations with many more to follow. But after Monday no new tapes were aired and the matter was quietly dropped.

My conclusion is that someone got to the Fox news executives and they got to Tucker.
Tucker was a threat to the narrative. He had to be stopped. And that’s why he was let go.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/04/24/report-heres-the-reason-tucker-carlson-is-out-at-fox-news-n1689891

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2023/04/25/fox-news-is-dead-and-tucker-carlson-is-already-living-large-with-a-job-offer-n1690059
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April 27, 2023 8:32am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Scott – this video shows why Carlson got fired.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPIowVU23sA&t=8s
  
  Corporate capture.
  
  Despite Tucker not accusing Fox News of bending the knee to pharma, it turns out the conservative news outlet IS, to an extent, beholden to the pharmaceutical industry.
  
  Brownstone Institute reported:
  
  Beyond MyPillow, Fox News’ largest advertisers include GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), Novartis, and BlackRock.
  
  Vanguard is the largest institutional owner of Fox Corporation, holding a 6.9 percent stake in the company. BlackRock owns an additional 4.7 percent.
  
  Vanguard and BlackRock are the two largest owners of Pfizer. Combined, they own over 15 percent of the company.
  
  Vanguard and BlackRock are the two largest owners of Johnson & Johnson. Combined, they own over 14 percent of the company.
  
  Vanguard and BlackRock are the second and third largest owners of Moderna. Combined, they own over 13 percent of the company.
  
  Perhaps, you may be noticing a trend.
  
  I asked earlier, wtf was Ardern doing meeting with the people at Blackrock when she was in the US?
  Why are Ardern, Trudeau, Macron, Merkel and many others, all “coincidentally” students of Klaus Schwab and the undemocratic, unelected WEF?
  
  Manchurian candidates.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:50am
  - Ghost
    
    This is an old article are they still involved with the pension?
    
    https://nzsuperfund.nz/news-and-media/new-zealand-superannuation-fund-appoints-existing-manager-blackrock-four-new-mandates/
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:06am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Too damn right they are
      
      https://nzsuperfund.nz/how-we-invest/investment-managers/our-managers/
      
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      April 27, 2023 10:09am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      This is from 2021, by 2028 Blackrock and Vanguard could own everything in the world.
      
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-04/blackrock-and-vanguard-s-20-trillion-future-is-closer-than-you-think
      
      Nothing to see here!
      
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      April 27, 2023 10:44am
    - mawm
      
      Ghost – That’s from 2013.
      
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      April 27, 2023 12:41pm
      - Ghost
        
        Yeah, that’s why I said old article.
        
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        April 27, 2023 12:43pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Pretty sure I read that Vanguard / Blackrock are the owners of Serco. And that Prince William is a major shareholder in Serco. Anyone for a seat on the board of The Earthshot Trust?
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:46am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Frightening stuff
    
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    April 27, 2023 11:52am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Here’s What Happens When You Fire The Most Popular Host In America.

https://billingsreport.com/people-are-canceling-fox-nation-subscriptions-after-tucker-carlson-and-the-network-split/

If Fox replaces Tucker Carlson with a ‘never Trumper’ it will be the end of them.
Senior top brass have screwed up – infiltrated by socialists?
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April 27, 2023 8:35am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I still don’t know who has access/ownership of the 1400 hrs of the Jan 6th so called insurrection.
  
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  April 27, 2023 8:37am
I remember when

Australian Institute of Marine Science’s latest study shows that the Great Barrier Reef has never had more coral.
They have been conducting detailed underwater surveys since 1986.
According to the Australian Environmental Foundation their survey of 1004 Australians produced the following results when asked
“Compared to the last 30 years, what do you think the state of coral coverage of the Great Barrier Reef is today?”
Results:
Record high – 3%
Above average – 7%
Average – 28%
Below average 28%
Record Low – 24%
Dont Know – 10%

But most of them will know that ‘Climate Change’ is man-made.
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April 27, 2023 8:35am
- Ian Boag
  
  f you go to the actual report there are all sorts of caveats – eg the type of coral …
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:22am
  - Ian Boag
    
    https://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/feature/is-the-great-barrier-reef-making-a-comeback/
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:24am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      ‘Ocean fact checker’ – 🤡🤡🤡
      
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      April 27, 2023 9:54am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Green propaganda runs deep. They best find another barrow to push.
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:21am
  - pdm
    
    Steve you are so right.
    
    Greenpeace have been caught spreading lies about South Island Nitrate levels apparently.
    
    Sorry cannot find the link but have a look at Groundswells facebook page.
    
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    April 27, 2023 11:35am
Rusty

Some spokeswoman from WHO (world health organisation) said NZ is going to have the worst flu season ever.

Didn’t the experts say that last year and nothing happened?

You can’t trust a single word these experts say.

Tina from Turners has more credibility than them!
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April 27, 2023 8:43am
- MCōs
  
  You can take your chances if you want to.
  I had my teeth cleaned yesterday and the hygienist told me she had the flu last year and felt rotten for a week.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:33am
- rockape
  
  I can confirm local DHB as it was is seeing more flue patients than usual for the time of year. Also it seems in the Northern hemisphere there were more varieties this year.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:54am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    rockape – not wishing to upset anyone, but it’s been warned about for over a year, the vaccines degrade the innate immune system. This was always going to happen. The more jabs you’ve had, the more prone to illness you’re going to be.
    All of the friends I still have who got jabbed have had covid at least twice. A few of them have had “flu” recently, they say not covid but that’s because they are refusing to test any more.
    
    Like the warning from many that lockdowns would weaken immune systems and would cause a net negative outcome, that it was only kicking shit down the road. So it happened.
    
    The law of unintended (but predicted) consequences strikes again.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:59am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I am sure I had Covid and did not even know, before I had my two jabs. The vax has not affected my immune system yet, but I will get a flu jab soon.
      
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      April 27, 2023 10:27am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Steve Otto – I’m not trying to worry people, but there is concerning evidence that the jab does weaken your immune system. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work, just that it won’t work quite as well. There may be variation in the degrees of damage.
        
        My comments about my friends are accurate but still only anecdotal. I don’t avoid them, but my wife and I (so far) have managed to not catch any of the various bugs they’ve had. We do take vitamin C and D and zinc regularly which no doubt helps.
        I may have had covid, I came back to NZ in late 2019 via Hong Kong. Had a horrible flu that lasted a week. No idea if it was or not, but maybe my immune system had a prepper? So far so good, but the one thing that I’ve been taught is, I trust my immune system, I don’t trust our medical system any longer sadly.
        
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        April 27, 2023 10:50am
      - Bridgenag
        
        Have had Flu jabs for over 20 years. Best to avoid now IMO Vit D with zinc etc will sort it all The Flu jab is only someones guess at what could arrive here. Do you really trust the “Medical industry” advice are in your best interests? Good post here . ….look at this one
        
        https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/new-face-mask-harms-and-covid-vaccines?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
        
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        April 27, 2023 12:17pm
      - Paulus
        
        My Doctor told me Flu jab contents same as last year and not altered, as sometimes happens annually.
        
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        April 27, 2023 1:20pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      There are already flu cases in hospital
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:48am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    All smoke and mirrors in that flue
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:23am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Beep beep!
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:21am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

More fun in Arizona. Attorney General Race.
‘Voting machines and printers suddenly stopped working at nearly 60% of voting centers. 92% of those precincts are deep red. What a coinkidink, huh? The voting machines were reprogrammed on election day, according to the corrupt Scott Jarrett when he had to testify under oath.’
If this keeps up then what of the 2024 POTUS Election?

https://billingsreport.com/multiple-voter-records-found-maricopa-county-voters-provisional-ballot-wrongfully-not-counted/
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April 27, 2023 8:43am
I remember when

When David Parker produced his report showing that the “311 wealthiest New Zealanders pay an effective tax rate of just 8.9% on their economic income.”
Why did the media not ask, “why don’t all of us pay our tax based on our economic income?”
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April 27, 2023 8:46am
- I remember when
  
  Also do we need to know what effect them moving their money into assets has on the income and wealth of New Zealand.
  Do these assets produce wages, economic benefits, housing or are they just baubles.
  Does NZ benefit more from the 311 wealthiest using the assets or is tax a better use.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:00am
  - Grumpy Silver Haired Female
    
    Superficial reporting means that there is no recognition of the source of our top 311’s wealth. I have no doubt that it is just as you say, they are not sitting on fat bank accounts or non-productive assets but are invested in productive land and, eg, factories and businesses which contribute to our nation’s GDP.
    
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    April 27, 2023 1:04pm
- Ehlana
  
  “Why did the media not ask” is a fair description of several years worth of “coverage” actually.
  
  Perhaps instead of the media we could refer to them by the ask-nothings, or kahore he patai, since we like Maori names these days.
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Kathy Griffin is a victim? Another crazy American.

https://therightwingclub.com/americanpatriotclub/5-years-later-kathy-griffin-wants-to-claim-ptsd-over-bloody-trump-stunt/?
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April 27, 2023 8:50am
mogg

Clive James, Barry Humphries, Peter Cook;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7hvU9CUllTo
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April 27, 2023 8:51am
- Random T Person
  
  Ha weird, I watched that exact clip yesterday!!
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:59am
Bridgenag

It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native criminal class except Congress. – Mark Twain
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. – Mark Twain
The difference between a Republican and a Democrat is the Democrat is a cannibal they have to live off each other, while the Republicans, why, they live off the Democrats. – Will Rogers
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. – G.K. Chesterton
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April 27, 2023 9:07am
Chuck Bird

Did anyone hear Rob Carr being interviewed by Hosking? He believed that even if China does nothing to reduce CO2 and NZ only emitted 0.17% of CO2 we should still wreck our economy to save the planet.

Luxon supports Carr and Seymour does not.
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April 27, 2023 9:11am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Carr is playing his part as the well paid fanatic.
  
  His time on earth is now measured in years not decades so does he care anymore, really?
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:15am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Any proof that Luxon said this? Seymour is on board with climate bullshittery
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:20am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I did not say Luxon said anything. I was a member of the Blue Greens where Carr spoke and also Luxon spoke. I did not record his speech but he clearly did support Carr. Luxon is on record as supporting Shaw. He is quoted in Newshub.
    
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    April 27, 2023 9:38am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Supports Carr in which way? some of what Carr says possible is good, but Luxon has stated no putting the economy at risk, so much of what Luxon thinks will be unsupportive of Carr
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:54am
- Cassandra
  
  Which tells you 1. Who to vote for, and 2. The high %age of idiots in NZ, many in the National party but most in Labour, Green and Maori parties.
  
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  April 27, 2023 9:26am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Vote Act.
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve just had a read through of a couple of chapters of the Climate Change Commision’s 2023 Draft advice for the 2nd Emissions Reduction Plan
  
  https://www.climatecommission.govt.nz/our-work/advice-to-government-topic/advice-for-preparation-of-emissions-reduction-plans/2023-draft-advice-to-inform-the-strategic-direction-of-the-governments-second-emissions-reduction-plan-april-2023/#read-draft-advice
  
  It’s not an impressive body of work judging by the chapters on Forests (10) and Research, Science, Innovation & Technology (13).
  
  The Climate Commission seems to realise NZ Governments have created a mess by focussing so much of our emissions budget on planting Pine forests…. but they haven’t a clue what to do about it.
  
  For the Science chapter, the CCC realises that open and interchange of information and innovation have been seriously hampered by the Competitive Crown Research model for Science.
  
  They identify that the Metservice -NIWA control of weather data is unlike that in other countries.
  
  The review found that the existing state-owned enterprise and CRI models that MetService and NIWA operate under have led to more restricted access to observational weather data in Aotearoa New Zealand, compared to other countries.
  
  But again… No practical ideas from the CCC how to improve matters.
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:39am
  - Ehlana
    
    For a suitable fee I’d tell the owners of MetService and NIWA to simply tell them to make their observational data available. On a website, and able to be downloaded as a csv file.
    
    How much do you think I should charge for my advice?
    
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    April 27, 2023 1:57pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      How much do you think I should charge for my advice?
      
      Well, let’s start at your professional charge-out fee of $250/hr…
      
      I think you’d need to spend at least a couple of hours interviewing the CEO s of Metservice and NIWA and then take a trip to BOM, Australia; JMA, Japan; CWB, Taiwan; and Met Office UK before you come to any hasty decision.
      
      I think you could probably organise something for just under $100,000.
      
      (probably less than the salary of one Climate Change Commission staffer).
      
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      April 27, 2023 2:28pm
- Burtland
  
  given that this is a calculation, the margin of error will be larger than 0.17% – or has he measured it ?
  
  so what are we talking about here?
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:07am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump shreds [Mod – deleted]Joe.

https://valiantnews.com/2023/04/trump-biden-2024-announcement-inconceivable-following-calamitous-presidency/
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April 27, 2023 9:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Mod, that heading was in the email I received. I did wonder if I should remove it.
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:34am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump’s First 2024 TV Ad Surprises EVERYONE: 1 Million Views Already.
Trump Campaign Launches First Ad, Shows DeSantis Gushing Over The Donald
“Then Mr. Trump said, ‘You’re fired!’ I love that part.”

https://valiantnews.com/2023/04/trump-campaign-launches-first-ad-shows-desantis-gushing-over-the-donald/

OK, that’s enough American stuff for a while.
What is happening in NZ today? SFA?
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April 27, 2023 9:21am
Maggy Wassilieff

I’m not a fan of NZ literature …

but I just might drop “Kind” by Stephanie Johnson into my book club’s reading box….

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/book-of-the-week-arderns-kindness-regime
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April 27, 2023 9:23am
- mandk
  
  Single word book titles are all the rage nowadays.
  
  I’m waiting for the official biography of Ardern.
  
  I hear it’s going to be called Fake.
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:04am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s been published:
    
    https://www.penguin.com.au/books/fake-9781760899110
    
    “A startling true story of love in a world of liars, cheats, narcissists, fantasists and phonies”
    
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    April 27, 2023 10:43am
    - mandk
      
      Oh well, the biographer will need to choose a synonym.
      
      There are plenty of options: https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=41&q=synonym+fake&cvid=9120cf13ed8d4ea695815192d254441f&aqs=edge.0.0l9j69i11004.7020j0j1&FORM=ANNAB1&PC=U531
      
      Which one would you choose, Maggy?
      
      I quite like “sham”.
      
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      April 27, 2023 11:52am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Rūpahu
        
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        April 27, 2023 1:08pm
I remember when

Of course the David Parker example of $27 million made by the wealthy NZer with 270m in assets made no mention of inflation.
Or the constant yoyoing of house prices in the last few years.
What would it do to the upgrading of houses, neighbourhoods, industrial real estate value or farms?
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April 27, 2023 9:26am
graham

Those lovely peaceful protestors who object to people wanting to use their cars are at it again.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/restore-passenger-rail-protesters-close-state-highway-1-in-wellington/AZZLG4JV4ZDDXHDRYT27H645K4/

When even the current Labour Government refuses to meet with them, you have to wonder at what point they might realise that all they’re succeeding in doing is annoying a lot of people.

Mind you seems they protestors aren’t feeling the love towards Labour either:

Transport Minister Michael Wood now also refuses to meet with the group after they flung paint across various Labour MPs’ offices following a meeting with him.

Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau has also ruled out meeting with the group after she offered to assist them and they chose to continue blocking roads instead.

“They have not moved forward in good faith, they have disrupted Wellingtonians, they have disrupted the lives of normal people instead of the Government’s.”

Wonder when we’ll see headlines referring to the “Unprecedented Level of Hate and Violence ™ ” being shown by these anti-car protestors …
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April 27, 2023 9:28am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  My advice would work, but the bleeding hearts would come out of the woodwork.
  Handcuff the protesters around a traffic light pole and leave them there for one night. If they do it again, double down, two days. Do it again, four days.
  They will soon get the message.
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:43am
  - All_on_Red
    
    You will like this story Steve
    ‘ staff at the VW museum ignored the playbook. Instead of calling Wolfsburg police immediately, staff “recognized the right to protest,” then closed the pavilion for the evening and left — turning off the light and heat as they walked out.’
    https://www.autoblog.com/2022/10/21/climate-protesters-glue-themselves-to-porsche-museum-germany/
    
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    April 27, 2023 3:41pm
- kowtow
  
  In the UK Plod walks along with them on their slow marches , deliberatly designed to cause traffic chaos or if it’s a totally static road block they warn members of the public not to move them under threat of ‘assault”.
  
  Plod there protects the lawbreakers against the productively employed . Literally.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:38am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Show them love. 1984-style.
  
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  April 27, 2023 7:56pm
Maggie Pie

Does this farken government never stop to think about the unintended consequences of their actions?

Following on from that dikhead Parker’s announcement yesterday…. “that the most wealthy only pay 9.4% tax”, we just head a few moments ago that a friend of ours had his Bentley coined on Parnell Rd last nite 🙁

SHEESH!
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April 27, 2023 9:30am
Maggy Wassilieff

Parliament seems a most unhealthy place…

https://www.teaomaori.news/waititi-opens-on-stomach-staple

If folks aren’t stomach stapled, they seem to be obese.
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April 27, 2023 9:32am
- Burtland
  
  pity they dont just staple their mouths – two birds with one stone
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:18am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Heh!
    
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    April 27, 2023 7:57pm
- Che Guava
  
  If someone can’t regulate what they put into their gob, how can they be expected legislate over peoples’ lives?
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:33am
  - miltonF
    
    [Mod – debate what a politicians does, not their appearance]
    
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    April 27, 2023 2:19pm
ClanMcleod

This is the best analysis of the Carlson sacking and the dramatic demise in western media that I’ve read recently.

Big Pharma’s Destruction of American Journalism – What the recent changes at Fox News say about the country.

Tucker Carlson was abruptly dismissed from Fox News sometime between Saturday, 4-22-23, and Monday, 4-24-23 (likely closer to the Monday). Many believe the ten-minute segment he made (on 4-19-23) caused Fox News to cancel the most popular news host on national television despite it significantly damaged the network’s financial revenue.

Given the importance of what he said here, I hope his firing results in many more people seeing that segment.

https://youtu.be/t9eN19qkZRk

Note: Tucker was telling the truth here—in addition to typical pharmaceutical advertising money, FOIA documents showed hundreds of news organizations were paid off by the Federal Government to promote the vaccines.

News organisations paid off by the government to promote the vaccines? That rings a bell…….where else did that happen?

This is a quite long blog post but it comprehensively highlights the levels of corruption at work, in all areas, but particularly in media, the narrative controllers.

An outstanding read that I can’t recommend enough. Everything they warn about can be applied here.

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/big-pharmas-destruction-of-american

The more freedom of speech and freedom from censorship of information is lost, the more risk anyone who publicly opposes what is happening takes on to speak out against what is happening (e.g., in many countries, political dissent results in your ending up in prison or worse). Similarly, studying the history of almost every evil government that comes to power reveals the same lesson. If you don’t want to speak out against what is happening because it’s uncomfortable, you have to because if you don’t, it will be much harder to speak out in the future.
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April 27, 2023 10:19am
ClanMcleod

Rodney Hide quote of the day just now on Reality Check Radio.

“If food is being advertised best not to eat it.”

Took me a second or two to think about that, but he’s probably right, as he said, when was the last time you saw an advert for broccoli? lol

https://realitycheck.radio/
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April 27, 2023 10:21am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Love Rodney!
  We really miss him round here.
  Used to wander up and down Remuera Rd wearing his yellow jacket talking to everyone. He stopped to have a chat once with all us girls from tennis while we were having lunch outside the Deli. Even complimented me on my hair.
  Have voted ACT ever since 😀
  
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  April 27, 2023 10:31am
- Che Guava
  
  The same applies with vaccines that are advertised.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:31am
- mawm
  
  How about “special of the day” at a restaurant? I’ve had dodgy fish “specials” too often….
  
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  April 27, 2023 12:57pm
Ghost

Seems to be a few rumours running around the internet at the moment about Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, from a stomach bug to a heart attack, guess time will tell which is true.
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April 27, 2023 10:40am
- Blog-aholic
  
  He might be having bad poll – alitis.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:02am
  - mawm
    
    More likely CIA-itis. He’s been a little too friendly with Vladimir.
    
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    April 27, 2023 12:58pm
- Ghost
  
  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-cancels-public-rallies-after-live-tv-health-scare-blasts-baseless-rumors
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:25am
Surely Knott

Day 11: Who shot ex-Green Candidate and activist Jack Brazil? What was found in the raid of the far-left Yours Cafe where he was located? Are Yours cafe armed? Was he shot at another location or did the media spread disinformation? What arrests have been made. Has the weapon been found? Have other weapons or manifestos or training manuals or drugs found?
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April 27, 2023 11:08am
- sirknz
  
  Totally the fault of the far right…
  
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  April 27, 2023 2:11pm
Yvette

PIJF provides one-off funding to ensure Emergency Resilience in the wake of Cyclone Gabrielle

NZ On Air’s Public Interest Journalism Fund (PIJF) has stepped in to ensure media in the Hawkes Bay and Tairawhiti are better prepared to serve their communities with vital public interest journalism in the wake of recent Civil Defence emergencies.

Cyclone Gabrielle caused widespread communications disruption and many media in the Hawkes Bay and Tairawhiti region struggled to continue day-to-day operations. NZ On Air invited eight organisations who currently receive Public Interest Journalism funding in those affected regions to apply for additional one-off special Emergency Resilience Funding.

– NZOA – media release, 27 April 2023

OK?

ClanMCleod, above, about politicians in general – Is it any wonder there is collapsing trust in all of the institutions that are supposed to bond our society together?

So, perhaps not that OK then?
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April 27, 2023 11:10am
Surely Knott

Other unsolved crimes

Day 6: Sunnyvale, Home Invasion, Assault Abduction of 15 yr old Teenager, who came home. This has gone quiet. Any word. Any arrests. A description of the offender or a police sketch? Very weird story.

Today: Elderly man assaulted in his bed. Description of offender ““The offender has been described as a male, about 170cm (5′7″) tall, of a slim build, with a scarf wrapped around his face,”
Hmmm any more details like colour of skin, hair, eyes, ethnicity, tattoos, what was he wearing, colour of the scarf? Is 5 foot 7 tall for a male?
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April 27, 2023 11:15am
- Ghost
  
  scarf wrapped around his face will likely mean you have got all the details the elderly victim was able to see.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:43am
Maggie Pie

Just reminded me.
We holidayed in Singapore about 10 years ago.
Stayed at Raffles. One of the most memorable hotel experiences ever.
And you couldn’t help but admire how that country is governed. Everybody was so clean and polite. We could go anywhere at anytime and feel safe.

Shame we can’t take a leaf out of their book here….

https://youtu.be/qJKF5b_q9dk
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April 27, 2023 11:15am
- Che Guava
  
  Too much freedom leads to disorder; to much order leads to loss of freedom. But nobody can have liberty without first establishing and maintaining order, and that is the primary role of the state. That’s why libertarians are so misguided: order must be imposed and enforced, and that requires a state apparatus, because there will always be elements who would deprive others of their agency.
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:44am
  - miltonF
    
    I think you’re confusing libertarians with anarchists. Libertarians believe in human rights, which as you say, must be protected. This should be the governments primary (only?) concern.
    
    The issue I see is that the govt is doing everything BUT protecting our rights. In fact, they’ve become the main culprit in dismantling and encroaching on our rights and freedoms.
    
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    April 27, 2023 4:09pm
- MCōs
  
  My son was there last week
  He told me there’s a fifteen hundred dollar fine for jay walking.
  They’ll make you think twice
  
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  April 27, 2023 11:58am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Morning Cossie… thinking about you before 😀
    
    https://youtu.be/_a_UKKvUcoE
    
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    April 27, 2023 12:16pm
- Observant Octagenarian
  
  Jees Mags – did you buy a Singapore Sling in the Raffles Bar? Kicks a hole in your wallet!
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:55pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    yip…hate gin but sipped mine and gave the rest to my partner. About 50 bucks a pop from memory 😛
    
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    April 27, 2023 2:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/our-first-taupo-meeting-is-tonight/

Included in today’s blog is Auckland Councilor having a sook about being abused at an ANZAC Parade. He ran to the media. Jake Laws was a protester at the Orewa meeting. He can hand out the rubbish, but can’t take it!
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April 27, 2023 11:35am
Surely Knott

Our most wealthy inner city green voters believe they are kind marxist socialists and that other wealthy people are the problem.

The IRD report walks a fine political line as Chloe Swarbrick shouts only about the top 300 wealthiest in NZ when in reality surely a wealth tax will have to apply to all wealthy asset holders (including the middle classes). And her constituents are the wealthiest and live in the suburb with NZ’s biggest capital gains. They will have to pay on those assets every year whether they’ve sold them or not.

They won’t want to give the specifics of their tax plan. Because it will affect all people with businesses and homes.
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April 27, 2023 11:38am
Bridgenag

Eagle helicopter out there in Auckland ” like a war zone” as another person has commented. Emergency helicopter busy as well
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April 27, 2023 11:47am
- MCōs
  
  Small zone
  
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  April 27, 2023 12:00pm
Ghost

Guess internal polling on this is not good

Budget 2023 tax speculation: Prime Minister Chris Hipkins torpedoes capital gain tax, Cyclone Gabrielle response levy
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April 27, 2023 12:24pm
- Littletramp
  
  Labour are desperately trying to invent a mechanism to transfer wealth from those who earned it to those who vote.
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:03pm
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    To those who vote Labour.
    FIFY.
    
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    April 27, 2023 2:37pm
OverseasKiwi

From my perspective, the military situation of the Ukraine is hopeless. Articles have compared the upcoming offensive(!) to D-Day in 1944, but a better comparison would be Operation Spring Awakening in March 1945, the last major German offensive of the war, which had no chance of success and exhausted the last remaining strategic reserves of the Wehrmacht. The Ukrainians still have some quality units, but the army as a whole is severely degraded, without a viable airforce or air defence system, limited logistical capability, and a polyglot collection of equipment. Brave soldiers but they have been bled white with heavy casualties (300,000+ dead, implying 1,200,000 wounded?).

To repeat, the situation is hopeless, and I expect a collapse soon. What worries me is how this ends. The Russians are clearly trying to minimise casualties, since they cannot dismiss the possibility that there will be a direct conflict with NATO, so they need to build up their military power. So what is the end game? Should Ukraine negotiate a deal? Risk nuclear war by fighting to the end? While no-one can doubt the will of the US and European leaders to oppose Russia, their countries do not have the industrial capability. It is an irony that Ukraine is draining the military potential of the West, and, deprived of critical resources from Russia, it may well be the case that the West in the future will be a paper tiger.
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April 27, 2023 12:31pm
- Burtland
  
  US and Europe … do not have the industrial capability
  
  Global GDP
  USA $19.5T
  EU $16.6T
  Japan $4.8T
  UK $2.6T
  Russia $1.5T
  Australia $1.3T
  
  100yrs of Socialism has only delivered poverty – thats why Ukraine wants out
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:24pm
  - OverseasKiwi
    
    You confuse nominal GDP with industrial capacity. China and Russia have an extensive industrial base, the former greater than Europe and USA combined. PPP provides a more realistic picture, and we must remember that Europe’s share of the global economy has continued to decline, suffers from chronic underinvestment, and is burdened by high indebtedness. Nor is there much overflow capacity, and arms output is something which takes decades to develop. You have to develop the machine tools, train a highly skilled workforce, and establish a secure supply chain for specialised components. All this does not bode well for armaments manufacture on an industrial scale, no counting the lamentable state of Nato’s armed forces qualitatively.
    
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    April 27, 2023 1:57pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      China and Russia ain’t gonna built diddly squat without Semi-Conductors.
      The US, Japan, Netherlands and Taiwan are strangling supply of the high tech chips weapons need.
      
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      April 27, 2023 3:47pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Russians have run out of serviceable equipment and ammo – now fielding 1950’s hardware. Their vast fields of supposedly usable cold war tanks etc had all been plundered for cash-convertible parts during last 30 years and left to rust. They have lost nearly all their high tech weaponry, hundreds of thousands of servicemen, most of their professional soldiers – and are now relying on poorly trained, very demotivated conscripts pushed into battle with guns to their heads and using easily intercepted un-encrypted radio comms.
  
  Ukraine have received nearly 1000 pieces of fast, accurate modern armour in recent months, along with lots of high tech infantry equip, and have been training mobilised forces (most with previous army training) during relative quiet of last few months in west as Russia battered themselves in failed winter offensive as they are picked off relentlessly by high accuracy western weaponry and drones.
  
  Mud season ends in next few weeks. Ukrainians have short internal lines of communications – 2-300km from central location gets them to front, and are harrying Russians across Dnipro in Kherson. Russians have to scrabble 1000km around outside to get from one end of front to the other. Ukrainians can feint and shift forces quickly to overwhelm Russian defenses.
  
  Ukrainians are getting better gear all the time. Likely F16’s soon, and have long range drones and missiles nearing entry into service.
  
  Not sure if Ukrainians will be successful in their coming offensive, but decent chance they take south to sea of Azov, and from there maybe Crimea is possible. You wouldn’t want to be a Russian soldier now though.
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:04pm
- cjn
  
  Another point is the demographics of Ukraine. Beginning with a population of 45 million they have lost 9 million to the 4 oblasts of the east. 15 million have emigrated as refugees (4 million of those to Russia). These have been mainly women and children and men of military age who were able to bribe their way across the Polish frontier. Polls taken in Poland suggest only one third would be willing to return to Ukraine when peace is established. So about 21 million to rebuild the west of the country. Fortunately the American banks and hedge funds are ready to step to the plate even after the British have sprayed depleted uranium on the world famous black soil.
  
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  April 27, 2023 6:54pm
- thirteenstars
  
  Collapse? No. WWI type stalemate without the defeat.
  
  At some point there will be a DMZ. The “winner” in that case will be Ukraine because in no sane world should Ukraine have been able to resist Russia. It did and Russia was hopelessly beaten to a draw.
  
  Russia is an empty shell. It was during Communism and so it is during its current Oligarchy. If not for nuclear fission it would be a backwater. As [who was it?] said, Russia is a gas station with nukes. Russia/Soviet Union was only ever considered a “superpower” because it had nuclear weapons. It was a poor country with world-ending weapons.
  
  China on the other hand is an economic powerhouse created *wholly* by Western technology and investment and a population that offered cheapish labour and eager intent. And at some point very soon it will have a self-sustaining middle class of enormous proportions and the game will be over.
  
  And that is germane to its relationship with Russia because the Russian oligarchy can supply China’s energy and mineral needs *forever*.
  
  We will then live in a world where individual citizenship will be a purely economic value. Human rights? Free speech? Forget it.
  
  And quite frankly, most people, at least in the medium term, will be quite happy with it because the ideal of living on your feet instead of dying on your knees will have become outdated.
  
  The politically-connected overclass will have triumphed. The slaves will be dulled by a bright and shiny world, yet held subservient under a heavy boot.
  
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  April 27, 2023 7:17pm
rouppe

A story on RNZ about the Greens having an urgent meeting to delay voting on their list rankings.

Yeah, whatever, but this…

The email sent to members this morning shows Rainbow Greens, Young Greens, Aotearoa Greens Global, Pasifika Greens and Inclusive Greens asked for the urgent meeting.

Holy crap! Who knew there were so many factions? And why can’t the Inclusive Greens include the Pasifika Greens and the Rainbow Greens?

Crazy
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April 27, 2023 12:46pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  They are incredibly factional.
  
  They are merely a cohabitation of individuals with vastly disparate views, opinions and importantly ideologies.
  
  How they stay cohesive (well barely cohesive) is anyones guess.
  
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  April 27, 2023 12:55pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Surely the Inclusive Greens should just be the Greens? Are they telling us that the Greens aren’t Inclusive? Or are they redefining “Inclusive” to being only people they agree with?
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:03pm
- graham
  
  Monty Python – predicting the future since 1979.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
  
  Life of Brian – The People’s Front of Judea
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:30pm
- kowtow
  
  Pythonesque .
  
  The People’s Front of Judea.
  And remember that discussion where Stan says it’s his right as a man to be a woman.
  
  The Greens actually turn Monty Python into a serious reflection on politics.
  
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  April 27, 2023 1:31pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Lol. “Rainbow Greens, Young Greens, Aotearoa Greens Global, Pasifika Greens and Inclusive Green”
  
  All of the above are identity politics. Where’s environmental greens. Where’s citizens rights greens gone.
  
  Here is an old 2009 article about Nandor. Nando even used to protest AGAINST globalisation. Now seem to be welcoming the whole WEF trojan horse with their “you will own nothing and be happy ” wealth tax.
  
  Nandor 2009:
  He has dreadlocks down to his ankles, regularly uses cannabis and cut his political teeth in the world of environmental activism and cruise missile protest camps.
  
  His maiden speech to Parliament began with greetings in the name of the Creator, the Most High Jah Ras Tafari, he was stomped on by Melbourne cops during an anti-globalisation protest a few months later, and he is probably the only New Zealand MP investigated by police for drugs.”
  
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  April 27, 2023 2:37pm
  - kevn
    
    @SK… In case you were wondering, he is into local body politics as a councillor in Whakatane. 2nd term I believe.
    
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    April 27, 2023 3:30pm
- greybeard
  
  What about the Gang Greens ?
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:22pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Or the Green Greens?
    
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    April 27, 2023 8:03pm
mawm

Previously suspended but now expelled from the UK Conservative Party, MP Andrew Bridgen had this to say.

My expulsion from the Conservative Party under false pretences only confirms the toxic culture which plagues our political system.

Above all else this is an issue of freedom of speech. No elected Member of Parliament should ever be penalised for speaking on behalf of their constituents and those who have no such voice or platform.

As a vocal critic of the vaccine rollout amongst other issues such as Net Zero, illegal immigration and political corruption the Party has been sure to make an example of me.

The comments to the article make interesting reading.

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/04/26/andrew-bridgen-expelled-from-conservative-party-after-raising-concerns-about-covid-vaccine-harms/
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April 27, 2023 1:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Seems like the Ministry of Health is all over the place with wasting time, money & goodwill.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/after-year-long-delay-ministry-scraps-covid-survey
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April 27, 2023 1:28pm
- mandk
  
  It’s obvious why the survey was scrapped.
  
  To make it remotely worthwhile, the survey would need to ask about vaxx status, but this would then make it even more obvious that being vaxxed stops neither infection nor transmission.
  
  And, if the survey were honest, it might reveal that, at a population level, the vaxx makes people sicker than COVID does.
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:41pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    mandk – 100% correct. The only question now is, how long can the MPs in parliament continue to pretend there isn’t a problem? It isn’t going away, and like the naughty kid scenario, the longer you take to own up, the worse it’s going to be.
    
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    April 28, 2023 7:37am
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING

Father forgive me….but I honestly thort she was photoshopped 😀

https://twitter.com/TheOnlyDSC/status/1651323836908859392
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April 27, 2023 1:36pm
- sirknz
  
  This channel ‘Whatever’ has been popping up in my YouTube feed and there are usually four girls down that side of the table.
  
  Also, the one on the right of the screen (next to Ms Hutt) has been on this show a few times now and she is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Couldn’t figure out why a straight man would prefer to sleep with the world’s oldest woman over the world’s hottest trans-woman “because sleeping with the rans-woman would be gay as it is a biological male”, cue histrionics by her as she admits to not actually knowing any trans-women…
  
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  April 27, 2023 3:00pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I’m not a fan of internet pile-ons denigrating people over their looks.
  
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  April 27, 2023 4:20pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Beats me why the 99% of us who aren’t offended by everything, quit catering to the 1% who are.
    
    Just saying.
    
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    April 27, 2023 4:37pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Generally would agree with the point I think you are trying to make. However, I’d draw the line at joining in on an internet pile-on to denigrate a real individual over his/her looks. If that was your sister/daughter/mother?
      
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      April 27, 2023 8:04pm
rouppe

Wee alarm bells going off in my head…
Headline is: Budget 2023: Chris Hipkins torpedoes capital gain tax, Cyclone Gabrielle response levy

Followed up by:

There will be no capital gains or wealth tax in the Budget, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins says in his first speech ahead of the Budget on May 18.

OK, sounds straighforward.

But then…

Instead, the money would be met from reprioritising existing spending, existing funding, and debt.

Always listen to what they say last… Another Toll Holdings moment coming up?

And then…

“I say again, there will be no new tax everyone would have had to pay, such as a cyclone levy, to fund the recovery.

Which leaves to door open for a tax or levy some people have to pay.

I dunno. Maybe I just have trust issues
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April 27, 2023 2:17pm
sirknz

Apparently men eat meat to feel ‘manly’.

https://archive.fo/vU90D [$tuff]

I eat meat because it tastes nice and has a lot of nutrients that I need to live.

This reads like yet another article trying to nudge me towards eating a bug sandwich.

I would almost be willing to place money on the fact that they will spin insects as being a vegan option within the next ten years.
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April 27, 2023 2:51pm
Maggie Pie

You are known by the company you keep….

https://twitter.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1651088932497657856

Honestly…what must James Shaw think?
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April 27, 2023 3:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Biden world of corruption has now increased to twelve.
Influence Peddling? What the hell is that?

https://billingsreport.com/the-number-of-bidens-receiving-payola-increases-to-twelve-corleones-are-jealous/
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April 27, 2023 3:12pm
greybeard

Why are so many security CCTV recordings very low resolution ?
If the object of the exercise is to record clear, unambiguous footage of events such as crimes and trespassing etc then surely the resolution should be as high as possible .
Otherwise most seem to be a waste of time and money.
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April 27, 2023 3:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The hint at the end…..

https://rumble.com/v2knm16-tucker-carlson-breaks-silence-for-first-time-since-break-up-with-fox-news.html
Via Dan Bongino.
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April 27, 2023 4:39pm
- Vory v zakone
  
  8.9 million views
  470k ‘likes’ on Twitter Steve.
  
  Perhaps he might move to another struggling network 🤔
  
  Anyhow #thebestisyettocome 😉
  
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  April 27, 2023 5:42pm
Ghost

Senior members of Congress have spoken to as many as six whistleblowers who claim they worked on Roswell-style UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs, according to a top attorney, a leading Stanford scientist, and ex-UFO program officials.

For decades it has been the subject of spooky TV shows and sci-fi novels: the theory that the government has alien spacecraft in a bunker somewhere, and has been trying to disassemble and understand their technology.

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April 27, 2023 4:41pm
- NothingLeft
  
  I’ve been interested in this for a few years – since navy videos came out. But the more I see and read, (the high profile videos are all pretty well debunked) the less convinced I become.
  
  -Modern videos all look like balloons, planes, stars, drones or CGI, or sensor artifacts from stuff military systems aren’t really designed to track/identify accurately.
  
  -Vast conspiracies do not work, and there is no evidence of any alien parts or ideas ever making it out of lab after supposedly 70 years (unbelievable). One possible exception is Gary Nolan having a piece of magnesium with non-terrestrial isotope ratios recovered from a crash site in Brazil.
  
  -Historic eyewitness reports from very credible observers are the one thing that still gives me pause. It’s plausible that observing aliens (if here then given what we know of physics most likely AI von-Neumann probes) are very aware of our technology development and are becoming more furtive over time in response, but that seems low probability – unless observing human technology development progress is entertaining/interesting to them.
  
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  April 27, 2023 5:17pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
    
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    April 27, 2023 5:52pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  When the wife and I lay in the Jacuzzi at night and stare at the multitude of stars/ galaxies we can’t but believe that there is life out there.
  
  It may be very different than life as we know it or it may be much the same as ours, but it would be very difficult to argue that in the billions of galaxies, each having billions of planets, that our planet is the only one supporting life.
  
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  April 27, 2023 7:18pm
Surely Knott

New Lynn Murder that was recorded as a covid death. He was on Meth and was shot and had covid.

They tested him for covid at the autopsy even though it is unusual to test for a virus.

“It’s unlikely to have had much of a bearing on his health at the time of his death,” Glenn said of the positive test result, explaining he saw no inflammation in Hart’s lungs.” So he wasn’t actually sick!

We were told this was a covid death and was recorded as such but ““It’s unlikely to have had much of a bearing on his health at the time of his death,”” The pathologist said.

His positive test meant his family couldn’t hold a funeral and had to self isolate!

This death had been recorded as a covid death.

And some people are still defending the statistics and response. Incredible.
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April 27, 2023 5:03pm
lifesgood

Bwahaha! NZ Herald must be desperate. They are advertising on line premium for.50 cents a week. Still way too dear imo.
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April 27, 2023 5:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  and “Stuff” is launching digital subscriptions….
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300863292/stuff-launches-new-digital-sites-as-start-of-a-new-era
  
  such a pity that i’ve squandered all my dough….and will have to rely on blogs for all my news.
  
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  April 27, 2023 6:18pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You know ypu can rely on me Maggz!!
    
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    April 27, 2023 6:40pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’d be devastated if you put up a paywall.
      
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      April 27, 2023 6:49pm
  - Ghost
    
    Do you want us to start a give a little page for you? We can approach stuff to run a story on it and get more people donating…
    
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    April 27, 2023 6:51pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Gosh no…
      
      I’d hate to prolong Stuff’s suffering; best to let it have a swift demise.
      
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      April 27, 2023 7:16pm
Ian Boag

Speaker at Probus today was a chubby mid-50s chap who told us some entertaining stuff about Post Offices. Way back when if you lived out in the country and there were three families in the area you could apply to Wellington and get a Post Office.

At rhe end he explained to us that he self-identified as slim which made him trans-slender 🙂
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April 27, 2023 5:29pm
Scooter

2 very interesting interviews on The Platform with Troy Bowker and Oliver Hartwich about the review the ird did on tax paid by 300 or so rich people in NZ. Seems this invasion of privacy or “research” was a law rushed through before Xmas 2020. Would be interesting to see a copy of the questions asked. Surely no more proof is needed that this is the most dangerous, totalitarian govt NZ has ever had.
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April 27, 2023 8:26pm
Ghost

So this ai is openly lying, talking about the foods she likes to try and where she studied

Talking to a virtual human at any time of the day is now a reality with the rollout of artificial intelligence’s latest technology.

Call Annie is one example of an AI-powered chatbot that provides users with an always-available virtual assistant.

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