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Warren

Contempt for Taxpayers- Treasury pauses project reporting for nearly three years.
Tens of billions of Government spending escaped Treasury scrutiny during the Pandemic response, dispite a order from Government that Treasury must provide updates on significant projects.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/contempt-for-taxpayers-treasury-pauses-project-reporting-for-nearly-three-years/UKEYBDFYIRCMFIDPS6MT7CBAII/
This Labour Government must think they are a law into themselves and just disrespect what needs to happen when you are spending or borrowing billions of dollars .
These clowns couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery let alone New Zealand, worse Government ever and maybe the most dishonest.
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April 26, 2023 8:01am
- mawm
  
  Like all modern governments once elected by the people to represent them, our politicians believe that they have suddenly become gifted with a supernatural intelligence and knowledge that allows them to do whatever they want. Sadly the majority of them are really unintelligent grifters who have not and will never be successful in personal private endeavours.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:25pm
  - Paulus
    
    Remember 53% of the electorate gave us the Government that we have got.
    Thought that was a democratic majority !
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:21pm
- AitchW
  
  Meanwhile David Parker is running an “eat the rich” campaign by essentially accusing the well to do of not paying their fare share of tax. Here comes a CGT which will capture Mums and Dads and the wealthy will find a (perfectly legal) way around.
  
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  April 26, 2023 6:22pm
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    Parker obviously wants a wealth tax on unrealised capital gains. Pikkety and all that. But I don’t imagine that Hipkins will be keen on that. Because Parker has got the debate running at the official level, Hipkins will have to have a clear answer before the election. He won’t be able to fudge it.
    I reckon Labour will go for a CGT on the Australian model (15% tax on realised capital gains). He will offer a big income tax cut ($3 billion). Basically the first $14,000 tax free, $14,000 being the current first step. He may also have a new tax rate, say 42 or 45%, for income above $250,000 or maybe $300,000. He will want the sum to be above hospital surgeon salaries.
    I guess we will know in 3 weeks.
    
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    April 26, 2023 7:55pm
Mike

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Happy World Intellectual Property Day!
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April 26, 2023 8:02am
- All_on_Red
  
  At first glance I thought you said ‘world intellectual poverty day’ and thought just another day of your comments.
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  April 26, 2023 8:53am
- Matt Long
  
  Is it already a year since Mike was going on about his intellectual poverty?
  How about something new to go on about Mike?
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:56am
  - Mike
    
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    Okay – for those in Florida it’s Confederate Memorial Day. No word yet on who owns the intellectual property for commemorating the legacy of slavery and insurrection.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:10am
    - gravedodger
      
      That’s an easy one Mike, “The US Democrat Party”, Keep the Choc fish I still have easter eggs and there are real needy out there.
      
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      April 26, 2023 10:17am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I am surprised he did not know that.
        
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        April 26, 2023 10:25am
      - Mike
        
        Makes me wonder why the republican legislature and governor didn’t support the 2021 bill to remove the designations of birthdays of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis and Confederate Memorial Day as state holidays.
        
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        April 26, 2023 10:56am
    - rouppe
      
      Oh, that would go right back some 1000 years when it was common in China, Africa at least
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:40pm
- cmm
  
  Where were you for Malaria Day yesterday?
  
  There are over 600,000 deaths a year from malaria. Most of those are children. That’s counted the real way – not the Covid way.
  
  Being flattened by a bus three weeks after seeing a mosquito fly past does not count as a malaria death.
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:37am
  - mawm
    
    Just don’t mention hydroxychloroquine.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:27pm
  - Mike
    
    I was out Commemorating Our Glorious Dead, many of whom died of malaria. Does that count?
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:07pm
Chuck Bird

This is premium but worth reading.

Richard Prebble: National’s Christopher Luxon remains one of Labour’s biggest assets

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/richard-prebble-the-two-christophers-are-labours-biggest-asset/GS7GMEZKNVBFTALSNHMJ33XNUQ/
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April 26, 2023 8:03am
- pdm
  
  Will someone please provide a link to the full article.
  
  No way am I paying the Herald for the tripe they mostly publish
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:14am
  - kowtow
    
    Join pressreader through your local library .You’ve paid the sub through your rates.
    
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    April 26, 2023 8:27am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Only works for NZ Herald if your local library is out of Akld. Same with The Press for Chch residents. Trying to avoid canabalising local sales.
      
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      April 26, 2023 9:32am
    - emmess
      
      Welcome to the 21st century
      Archive the page and post the link
      
      [Mod – posts where people are trying to bypass the paywall by archiving the article will not be approved]
      
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      April 26, 2023 3:55pm
  - cas
    
    Get Pressreader through your local library website.
    
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    April 26, 2023 8:38am
    - john1234
      
      I just created an account at Auckland Library but logging into PressReader selecting “Library Account” and selecting “Auckland Library” doesn’t seem to work – it does not seem to log in.
      
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      April 26, 2023 9:45am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        It will require a password which is likely to be your library card number
        
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        April 26, 2023 4:05pm
  - Taieri
    
    [Mod – this article is paywalled, archiving the article and linking to it, bypassing the herald isn’t allowed here, thanks]
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:23am
    - Taieri
      
      OK. My apologies.
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:46am
  - Cantabrian
    
    Switch to Firefox and use its ‘Pocket’ app.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:25am
  - Che Guava
    
    [Mod – this article is paywalled, archiving the article and linking to it, bypassing the herald isn’t allowed here, thanks]
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:00pm
    - Che Guava
      
      Cool.
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:24pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    20 weeks intro for $25 ….
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:13pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      We already pay for the Ferald via our Governments largesse
      
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      April 26, 2023 5:16pm
- All_on_Red
  
  That’s only because the Media are Labour’s Biggest Asset and Luxon knows just one misstep by him or any Nat, is going to be brutally hammered without end. Thereby taking the spotlight off Labour’s incompetence. Its the ultimate ‘look squirrel’ and exactly what they do overseas.
  Luxon is in a tough spot.
  Speak out and face a wall of negative bashing or play the long slow game hoping enough see the light about how bad the thugs in Labour, the Greens and the Racist Maori Party are.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:16am
  - kowtow
    
    Nope .
    
    Prebble cites an example where Luxon states he won’t work with Green or Maori parties , but then his office issues a contradictory statement .
    
    Prebble says Luxon needs to be authentic and then people will warm to him.
    
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    April 26, 2023 8:30am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Maybe not warm to him, but I would certainly respect him for being honest and not flapping around trying to not offend anyone.
      
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      April 26, 2023 10:17am
      - Nickc2
        
        I think a lot of voters will vote for him just to keep those other incompetent lying thieving racist bastards out.
        I’m one of them (voters that is.
        
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        April 26, 2023 11:29am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Nickc2, some may but others will vote Act.
        
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        April 26, 2023 1:36pm
  - Matt Long
    
    I hope you aren’t still saying that in 9 months time.
    
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    April 26, 2023 8:58am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Most people are openly commenting on the vulgarity of the media these days, I think media will end up hurting Labour, I am sure media hurt Ardern.
    
    Ev we n the missus said the interview with Nicola Grigg over live exports was biased and an over reach, she spoke over her ever time she tried to tell us these new ships weee 5 star
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:47am
    - Overworked
      
      5 star or not, exporting live animals to countries where animal cruelty is almost routine is uncivilized. Is Luxon actually courting electoral oblivion?
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:21am
      - Ian Boag
        
        We but bacon that way …. whatever. Just saying.
        
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        April 26, 2023 1:15pm
  - Che Guava
    
    Trump proved conclusively in 2015/16 that deliberately going head-to-head with the media is a winning strategy. Use the power of the media against them. But Luxon doesn’t have any such political instincts. He must live in such a bubble that he thinks most people like the media hang on their every word and opinion. Some do, no doubt, but the other half have a brain and think for themselves.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:04pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    The reason I changed from National to Act is Luxon, not the National Party. Luxon is almost totally poll driven. There are many MPs in National who are not that keen on him. Sadly, most will suck up to him in the hope they will become a minister.
    
    I posted yesterday that I asked National and Act about trans competing against normal women. Act said no. National talked about individual sports deciding.
    
    In the US, Congress voted against it on party lines.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:55pm
- Souvlaki
  
  Sadly…Prebble is correct. To tell a public meeting you “won’t work with Te Pati Maori” THEN ..some hours later “refuse to rule them out”…is piss poor communication. The prevarication means, he has neither the backbone nor authority to rule out the MOST toxic political party in NZ, lead by separatist buffoons…and thats the best thing I can say about them.
  Does National have some ‘deep state’ Labour moles as “advisors”? WTF are they thinking…anything at ALL??😠
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:20am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Hang on a minute, he has stated he could work with any party in coalition openly, (except Labour) have we got proof he said this, or is it media vulgarity again?
    
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    April 26, 2023 11:28am
    - Nickc2
      
      Ya can’t believe anything ya read in our media. They’ve been bought pure and simple.
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:44am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Exactly
        
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        April 26, 2023 12:20pm
    - leoj
      
      Yet Luxon HAS a history of throwing his own under a bus.
      
      The media own him.
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:26pm
Yvette

That the Race Relations Commissioner Meng Foon made donations to politicians during the 2020 election cycle … now raises matters of the need for political impartiality

But also questionable is Mr Meng Foon’s actual work. Advocating for complete ethnic opportunity to access covid vaccination – upholding rights – is totally valid, but not actually his job to say Get vaccinated, or Don’t – and similarly, is attempting to explain and promote the Government policy of “co-governance” actually his job? –

As a young man I used to make all my decisions independently, and for the best as far as my perspective was concerne
However, once I got married, my wife and I began sharing that decision-making (although to be honest I often defer to her). The process is always amicable and eventually we are both happy with the end result.
This was my first experience of co-governance. [1]

Mr Foon does say –
I have been speaking recently on the topic of co-governance as people have asked my thoughts. I shared my experience and observations in Aotearoa New Zealand. I say experience and observations, because in reality co-governance is not something new. [1]

But Foon goes on to mention many public sector boards now have more than 50% women membership after moves to improve diversity, a marriage of sorts, MMP with Its defining characteristic is constituency representation. and –
At home in Te Tairāwhiti and other areas around the motu, Te Tiriti o Waitangi settlements have covenants of co-governance to manage the wellbeing of lakes, rivers and mountains for the benefit of everyone and future generations. [1]

But surely race relations should be about the appropriateness of communication, not the communication itself.

Waikato-Tainui chairperson Tukoroirangi Morgan asked: “Will he succumb to the attack dogs of the National Party and ACT as they fan the flames of racism and anti-Māori sentiments and throw us under the bus?” [2]

This gives Foon plenty to do, as well as saying to Government “You didn’t define or explain ”3 Waters co-governance” very well – so try again. “

He can point out that Ardern, after Jackson bungled the timetable and process of consultation (Maori input and ‘public’) she has allowed a void, that conjecture has filled, to divide the country but he should tell them to fix their mess, not mess-in himself.

And Foon should say “My work is race relations, not public relations”

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[1] https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/129049161/cogovernance-give-nothing-to-racism-and-give-it-a-go
[2] https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/chris-hipkins-faces-challenge-of-correcting-co-governance-narrative-over-three-waters.html
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April 26, 2023 8:07am
- RoboRob
  
  Foon is a lefty tool.
  
  However the simple solution is that an incoming government, as part of its cost saving measures closes the race relations, Womans and Childrens commisions. Boom there is $100 – $200m saved for no drop in services to tax payers.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:57am
  - David Garrett
    
    Robo: Sadly there is no political party in parliament today – sadly even including ACT – who would have the cojones to close down those three bullshit “Commissions”.
    
    If Rodney was still leader, and ACT held enough leverage over National, those commissions would be gone.
    
    Remember back in 2008 both ACT and the Nats had abolishing the Maori seats as policy; rather than do that, Key did a deal with the MP so they had an alternative to us. Very smart politically, but also totally devoid of principle.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:33am
    - Mike
      
      Rodney? The guy who was Minister for Regulatory Reform? Far from shutting down commissions, didn’t he establish an extra one – the Productivity Commission?
      
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      April 26, 2023 9:47am
      - Che Guava
        
        I genuinely like Rodney. But I also can’t help recalling how very pleased with himself he looked when he teamed up with Key and was dutifully following him around at press stand-ups and the like. Give someone a taste of power and principles can often take a back seat.
        
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        April 26, 2023 12:08pm
    - RoboRob
      
      We are running deficits. We should want to cut government spend. The left always portrays this as cutting essential services such as education, hospitals, police etc.
      
      This is so not true as there is an easy 10% we could cut without even looking at the ‘front line’ services. Some time ago I went through the list of govt departments and commisions. It is stunningly long. There are a number of large number of commisions / departments that do nothing but produce media satements and discussion documents (such as rase relations). All of these can go with ZERO impact on NZ society. Then we can look at the departments that all do the same thing. There were a number but one that springs to mind is NIWA and Metservice. Two totally seperate weather services with a large overlap of services. They both even have seperate ‘super computers’. Ridiculous, and they know it.
      
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      April 26, 2023 10:22am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        There were a number but one that springs to mind is NIWA and Metservice. Two totally seperate weather services with a large overlap of services. They both even have seperate ‘super computers’. Ridiculous, and they know it.
        
        Indeed..
        
        https://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/content/comcom-ends-investigation-after-metservice-makes-changes-for-good-but-what-about-niwa
        
        Remember folks…
        
        the data NIWA and the Metservice collects is ours… It belongs to the taxpayer and should be readily available in an easily accessible form.
        
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        April 26, 2023 11:15am
Matt Long

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/tremain-unkindness
Tremain on the odious comparisons between Adolf and Ardern.
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April 26, 2023 8:15am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  [Mod – please don’t post rumours]
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:55am
Rusty

I’m gutted the Warriors couldn’t beat the Melbourne Storm last night losing 30-22.

I was hoping it was payback time against that arrogant Bellamy and his displaced Sydney/Nz players pretending to be a Melbourne team.

Still the Warriors are looking good.
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April 26, 2023 8:16am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I reckon the ref was shocking as soon as the warriors got to 18-6
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:56am
  - OlderChas
    
    I remarked to my co-viewer at the time. “I wonder how they got the message to the ref to start helping Melbourne out?”
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:25am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It was like the switch was flicked, Bellamy had the look of guilt even after the whistle went, the penalty to Johnson kicking under the post happens in every game, commentators mentioned oh we penalise that now do we
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:33am
Matt Long

I wish those transphobe herald people would stop their denigration campaign.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sex-worker-jailed-for-infecting-a-client-with-hiv-fighting-deportation-to-nz/BQEXZV5TJBF2TOB6TUTXTB776A/
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April 26, 2023 8:17am
- Surely Knott
  
  Interesting that they used the person’s male name . We are told by the Woke that is dead naming and can cause psychological harm.
  
  But the herald use his old name to hide the person’s current identity while still calling him she. Typical lies by NZ media.
  
  In 2018 however Pink News only used the female name Sienna Fox. In 2018 Daily mail used the female name Sienna Fox and Clayton James Palmer. In 2023 media only use the name Clayton Palmer.
  
  It’s not just a matter of Gender it’s a matter of truth and safety. If you commit a criminal act the public need to know your name history. Funny that we all had to carry digital id to prove we were covid vaxxed. But if you have HIV the media will hide the name you use to advertise sex services.
  
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5270287/Transgender-sex-worker-knowingly-exposed-customer-HIV.html
  
  https://www.thepinknews.com/2018/01/15/hiv-positive-transgender-sex-worker-on-trial-for-secretly-infecting-client/
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:30am
  - sirknz
    
    What wonderful person. Sex worker and user of illicit drugs. I suspect they mean injectables and not disco biscuits or reefer.
    
    I’m sure that Clayton will be a wonderful addition to our workforce and not be a drain on our health resources…
    
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    April 26, 2023 2:56pm
Matt Long

Which is the clear and present danger, Tsunami or Climate Change?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/scientists-reconstruct-impact-of-nzs-largest-known-underwater-landslide/SL5PKVSFSJEGJNRSEQGVCHN5LI/
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April 26, 2023 8:21am
- cmm
  
  We are supposed to worry about a threat of 10cm of sea level rise by 2100 (PS better get a wiggle on it – only 77 years left).
  But the Kaikoura EQ changed the sea level by over 2 metres – 2000 year’s worth – in one EQ.
  
  Same has happened in Wellington in numerous EQs.
  
  Anyone worried about sea level rise in NZ is looking at the wrong threat.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:35am
  - rouppe
    
    Not only that, but no historical context.
    
    Since the last ice age, sea levels rose over 120 meters. I’m sure significant populations of fauna that were displaced by that. But they survived. As did all manner of marine life. But 10cm (if it happens) is a catastrophe?
    
    It’s ridiculous
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:02pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  What the article does not say but what I’m betting to be true is that much of the raw data underpinning this research arises from O&G exploration surveys.
  
  Can’t be praising private enterprise or O&G.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:37am
Maggy Wassilieff

Goodness me…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/former-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-to-join-harvard-university.html
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April 26, 2023 8:24am
- peterwn
  
  I doubt she would have ever been invited to join MIT (pretty well next door to Harvard). Some elements at Harvard will love it, but others will soon see through it. Anyway Harvard has pots of money for this sort of thing.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:30am
  - Paulus
    
    Are you aware that Harvard University was founded by a Puritan Clergyman, John Harvard, from Liverpool (UK).
    Am not sure he would approve of Ardern in any form.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:43pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Some US Judges are refusing to take Interns from Stanford as they are so woke. Maybe Harvard will follow.
  
  Otago Uni is in the poo. Maybe they will learn the hard way, go woke go broke.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:35am
- pdm
  
  Maggy we all knew she would not go back to her more natural habitat – serving in a Fish and Chip Shop.
  
  She cannot get her hands dirty now – well can she?
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:40am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Such a fascinating work place for an avowed socialist.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:00am
- krazykiwi
  
  Harvard’s janitors are smarter than Ardern.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:48am
  - RoboRob
    
    As their students will soon have the privillage of discovering. My money is she doesn’t last long. Even the lefty staff will soon realise she is just a list of platitudes with not much else going on.
    
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    April 26, 2023 8:58am
    - Chris R
      
      She is only intended to be there for a single semester. Whether that is sufficient time for her glossy idiocy to be revealed remains to be seen.
      
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      April 26, 2023 9:25am
      - RightFirstTime
        
        And she has said that when she is finished there she will come back here. That UN job must be a long game.
        
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        April 26, 2023 3:21pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      She is only at Harvard for a semester. She will be a figurehead nothing more or less.
      
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      April 26, 2023 9:31am
    - Paulus
      
      Is only for 1 Semester, I thought I understood ?
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:44pm
  - Ian Boag
    
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    Harvard’s janitors …
    
    When did you meet them 🙂
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:41am
    - sirknz
      
      Movie reference, keep up.
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:51am
    - Che Guava
      
      It’s not your fault, Ian.
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:11pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      He’s right Ian. The janitors are brighter than Ardern, and I know because I did meet a few of them when I was there. FYI, Ardern won’t have someone writing her “empathetic” speeches anymore. It won’t take long for Harvard to realise they’ve dodged a bullet by restricting her to a semester.
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:51pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        The janitors are brighter than Ardern, and I know because I did meet a few of them when I was there.
        
        You discussed politics with them … ?
        
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        April 26, 2023 7:43pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Good Will Hunting.
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:22am
    - Joely Doe
      
      M.I.T.
      
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      April 26, 2023 3:35pm
- Swifty
  
  Harvard’s reputation is not what it once was.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:53am
  - Nickc2
    
    Any organisation that entertains anything bordering on favourable with regard to Ardern has to be down on its luck.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:50am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Nickc2 – I put it up there with Budweiser hiring Dylan Mulvaney……..
      
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      April 26, 2023 10:25am
      - Nickc2
        
        Budweiser is the worst beer I have ever drunk (and I’ve drunk a few!).
        
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        April 26, 2023 11:32am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Nickc2 – yes, I caught up with friends in San Francisco many years ago (thankfully when it wasn’t the basket case it is now) and that is what he got me when we went to a bar for a beer. It was standard Budweiser, it was cat piss, I can’t imagine how bad the “light” is….
        
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        April 26, 2023 12:09pm
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Yep, Bud is god awful, and Coors, Miller, Pabst and Michelob are nearly as bad. Worst of all, is going to a baseball game where they give you beer that has to be watered down. And charge a fortune for it.
        
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        April 26, 2023 12:57pm
      - Nickc2
        
        ClanMcleod @1209PM
        I managed a Rugby team in Sydney for a season, and our sponsor was Budweiser.
        I had to inform the sponsor I was teetotal. I think that’s the biggest lie I’ve ever told (or close to it anyway).
        
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        April 26, 2023 2:18pm
    - Paulus
      
      Perhaps she offered to pay them with New Zealand coin !
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:45pm
- Reg Perrin
  
  I can see initially students will flock to any course she takes based on who she is, but will soon grow tired of the waffle and lack of substance behind the ideas. There will be no Comms staff or other ministers to cover for her
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:53am
- Belinda
  
  What is the position, cleaner or in a cafe.?
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:56am
- Gravelroad
  
  @MW-
  So Jacinda Ardern, “Aotearoa’s greatest Prime Minister” will not be here at the time of this year’s general election.
  Is that a plus or a minus for the Labour Party’s election campaign?
  Not so long ago, it would have been viewed as a disaster not to have our great world leader present to tell people to vote Labour.
  What will the msm and Jack Tame and all the giggling girlfriends on the national radio do without Jacinda to subtly spin the correct election result to the peasants?
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:04am
  - mawm
    
    Has anybody actually seen her since her resignation?
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:49pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      She said one of the reasons she was resigning was to be able to spend more time with her family. That lasted all of 2 weeks, then?
      
      I’m sure there were labels we used when she was in public office, but now she is a private citizen, I will resist saying the obvious, li**, li** pants on fire.
      
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      April 26, 2023 8:27pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Everyone on twitter is asking….”Where’s ClarkE?”
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:10am
  - cmm
    
    Probably found the hole in the fence again…
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:36am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Sounds like he’s busy with his house moving show.
      
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      April 26, 2023 9:47am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He was at Tarras with her when she got the bums rush by the shop owner
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:59am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Sorry, should have said wasn’t
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:23pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Lol G, last year wife and I did Otago rail trail. We were in Naseby at the Royal having a feed and a few beers. Got chatting with some locals who absolutely despised Ardern. The feeling was similar in Clyde, Chatto Creek, Ophir and Oterehua. Was in Lorimer Knives in Omakau and got talking with a couple from Tekapo who were equally beside themselves about her. Common theme down there!
      
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      April 26, 2023 4:30pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        We say it how it is down here, anywhere in Central Otago she will be hated
        
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        April 26, 2023 7:24pm
- cmm
  
  ” Lecturers (with the exception, as appropriate, of appointments in the arts) must ordinarily hold a doctorate by the time the appointment begins”
  
  Does an honourary doctorate count?
  
  https://academic-appointments.fas.harvard.edu/b-lecturers
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:25am
  - Taieri
    
    Does an honourary doctorate count?
    ———–
    
    An adjunct professor doesn’t need one at all.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:59am
- Piniwi
  
  Thanks Maggy as we get out early morning chuckle bait. Is this an attempt dumb down that institution too.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:31am
- kowtow
  
  All credit due as no doubt she’ll be delivering all her lectures or whatever it is they do via Zoom or some such .
  
  She did declare the climate being in some sort of catastrophe etc , so she won’t be adding to the planet killing carbon emissions by flying there ,now will she ?
  
  Otherwise she’s nothing but a hypocrite Elitist , as will be her students , if they don’t challenge her in the lecture theatre on it.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:32am
- Burtland
  
  will be interesting to see what propaganda she can generate without the PMO and Labour party hacks behind her – all she managed previously was the comrade speech
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:20am
  - Piniwi
    
    But Burtland it might have been part of her incentive package to leave that she could get continued support from the spinners. It is an important brand protection that she continue to “look good” as a past Labour leader like Clark does.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:31pm
- Surely Knott
  
  https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2017/01/22/harvard-kennedy-school-america/
  
  This article not a fan of the Harvard Kennedy School it seems.
  
  “Getting into bed with power players has long helped keep HKS afloat, and serves as a major factor driving enrollment. Without the flashy speakers and connections, it’s not a stretch to think that far fewer students would wind up getting well-paying jobs, or even bother attending. On any given day, students here might bump into a Nobel scholar—or an accused international war criminal.”
  
  “For every lauded dignitary HKS churns out (Senator Chris Van Hollen, Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, former Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau), the school has also welcomed students and faculty it would just as soon forget”
  
  “At times, HKS can resemble a halfway house for disgraced politicians. ”
  
  ““I don’t think the Kennedy School should be a bastion of Chomsky-ite criticism of the political establishment,” HKS professor Stephen Walt says, “but it should actively encourage its faculty to challenge conventional wisdom, orthodoxies, powerful institutions, and people. The school has tended to be part of the chorus. When that happens, instead of speaking truth to power, as good academics should, you’re sucking up to power.””
  
  https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2017/01/22/harvard-kennedy-school-america/3/
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:38am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jaspinda will have short friendships there. The brighter ones will unfriend her because of the constant word soup waffle. Otherwise they will be walking around thinking “What did she just say?”
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:50am
- Ehlana
  
  “will generate vital conversations about the public policy choices facing leaders at all levels”
  
  Like the co-governance public policy choice which her party did not campaign on, then created a taxpayer fund for media who agreed to promote it, spent months consulting one ethnic group on while never talking to the rest of the country.
  
  Exactly what is it Harvard thinks young leaders can learn from her about vital conversations?
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:51am
- Skippytony
  
  JA may get a bit of a shock at the reception she gets in the US. Her Orwellian “source of truth” shtick got a lot of airtime in the states.
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:53am
- rouppe
  
  It sounds like it’s a lot of talking, but not anything productive.
  
  No surprise, really
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:06pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  To quote Mae West
  
  ‘Goodness had nothing to do with it’
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:11pm
Ron Jeremy

I see Parker and Hipkins talking about fairness in the tax system . I assume this report will look at Maori entities and how much they pay in tax ?
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April 26, 2023 8:24am
- kowtow
  
  Bwahahahaha.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:33am
- Burtland
  
  Charity status of Iwi would be a good starting point – for a group that pays no tax they have a lot of sway
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:25am
  - rouppe
    
    Any entity that provides charity services based on any of the prohibited classes in the HRA (??) such as religion and race should be deregistered.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:09pm
- Simon
  
  Maori apparently are 15% of the population, numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Yet the top 10 iwi, membership is around 20% of the purported number of Maori in the country.
  
  Some big iwi barely struggle to get to 10,000 “members”
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:01pm
- Paulus
  
  The main ones Tainui and Ngai Tahu, like some additional 10,000+ Maori Charities are Tax free, as they do not know who owns them
  And like Maori land cannot pay taxes for the same reason.
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:49pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I see a Land tax has been floated.
  
  Good luck in getting Maori to support that.
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:14pm
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    They’ll be exempt
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:20pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      That doesn’t sound very fair.
      
      I’m sure Chippy will insist on fairness as the basis for his new tax policy. Sure of it.
      
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      April 26, 2023 4:31pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Not Chippie, try Parker. He who inherited the “tax the rich pricks” accolade of that other well respected Dunedin MP Michael Cullen.
        
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        April 26, 2023 5:33pm
ClanMcleod

Possibly the best post I’ve read from el gato malo, though there have been many excellent ones.

Re “experts”.

self-styled “experts” are always very sure of themselves, but most of their advice ages like a fish head i once left under the sofa.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/a-friendly-reminder-about-experts

This post is about a NYT puff piece created to give the US number one “expert” Tony Fauci an “out”.
El gato malo shreds Fauci and the whole interview in impeccable manner.
Have a read, it is delicious, then think about the equivalent clowns here in NZ. Michael Baker, who lied on live radio being the prime example.

and when it all goes sideways, they will then duck the blame and claim they never said that or go full “shaggy defense” and claim that it “wasn’t them.”

You know who the others are.

Just like Baker

don’t forget that early on, tony knew lockdowns did not work, covid was not high risk, masks were useless, and that people should not panic. he said every one of those things. they were true when he said them and they are true now. then he turned on a dime and said the opposite for entirely political reasons….
he became the loyal spokes-hobbit for partisan pseudoscience, lied over and over about everything, then lied about lying and keeps on lying to this day.

Back to Fauci, but keep in mind the stream of “experts” rolled out on mainstream media in NZ, the MO was exactly the same.

he speaks of divisiveness, but what divided us was our “experts” and their endless hectoring and harangue to do everything wrong. they came after lives and livelihoods with known garbage science that they still try to whitewash to this day.

they made EVERYTHING political, sought to subvert choice and judgement at every turn and killed people in droves by turning our response into something far more deadly than covid ever thought of being.

the evidence that most of the “deaths” they claim using hyper-overstated counts with preposterously inclusive criteria were iatrogenic is extremely clear. there has never been a seriously dangerous respiratory pandemic in a post antibiotic society. this was an own goal.

It is possibly one of the best summaries of the nightmare of the last 3 years you are likely to read. If you don’t have time to read it all now, go to the page and bookmark it for later. It is absolute gold.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/a-friendly-reminder-about-experts

I’ll leave it with this:

this was not “a communication” issue. it was purposeful, bald-faced lying or incompetence so staggering as to disqualify one from being taken serious on such topics ever again.

it was not a dead end. it did not stop spread and likely accelerated it. it was never even tested against transmission. and you knew or should have known that.

but “experts” said the opposite at every turn.

and my oh my the receipts we have on that one.

yes, the vaccines were supposed to stop covid spread. yes, the “experts” told us so.
the revisionist history around vaccines is getting pretty extreme. let’s be VERY clear: yes, they were promised to stop spread, contagion, and provide herd immunity

then you tried to hide the adverse events both by making them hard to find and failing to even look until forced.

so please, no grandstanding about the problem being the politics or the public or the public trust.

the problem was you and yours.

and you just keep lying.

Tragically, unlike everywhere else on the planet, NZ hasn’t even reached the point of admitting that things maybe didn’t go exactly as planned. In fact we are still pushing the poison as if it actually was “safe and effective. An astonishing feat considering it is a blatant lie.

Clown world doesn’t begin to explain it. The levels of suppression of truth in this country make North Korea look like a paragon of truth. It’s tragic.
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- ClanMcleod
  
  As an addendum to that post. This was warned about, this is why the vaccinated in NZ are getting covid over and over.
  
  why there isn’t going to be a covid vaccine
  
  there has never been a successful vaccine for a recurrent respiratory disease. not for flu, coronaviruses, RSV, none of it. these viruses mutate too quickly. there is always a new one, a new strain, and it will infect you whether or not you got sick last year.
  
  where this gets really worrying is if you fixate an entire population into one response vector and this then creates an intense evolutionary pressure toward an “escape” variant. every person is the same lab running the same experiment and when someone cracks it, it affects everyone. you can, quite literally, create the opposite of herd immunity. you can create herd antigenic-fixation.
  
  https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/why-there-isnt-going-to-be-a-covid
  
  It was warned about and it was ignored by the “experts” in NZ. Read this and the prior post and never forget.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:45am
- krazykiwi
  
  Yup. The bad cat nailed it with this post. It it replete with receipts detailing the bald-faced lies from the mendacious ‘experts’ who have wrecked lives and communities.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:46am
- Grunter
  
  Down Tickers – what is your counter-argument? Are you saying that these clowns did not lie? Are you saying that the jab did work? What is it?
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:30am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Grunter – it means I’m over the target. All they have is pathetic down ticks. No retort. No debate. Just a petty internet tongue poke and run away and hide and silently fume.
    
    It’s all provable fact, every bit of that post, and that’s what rankles them most. They dare not try and respond with a rational response because they don’t have one.
    
    It’s also a sad reflection of the response of government and the opposition. They either fucked up really, really badly, or they deliberately fucked us over.
    
    All MPs are in one of these camps or the other.
    They were either derelict in their duty to investigate for themselves, refused to listen to those who spoke out including protesters in Wellington, or they knew what was happening was wrong but decided to stay schtum and not rock the boat.
    Not one of them out of 121 did the right thing. I find that as astonishing as I find it sad.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:20pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Actually, our blog host likely has the right contacts. How about passing my links above to a few of the experts I am criticising and asking them to do a blog post in response?
      
      Ayesha Verrall. Michael Baker, Siousxie Wiles, Shaun Hendy, Rod Jackson, Nikki Turner, Hipkins, Bloomfield. Any one of them.
      
      It would make for an interesting post I believe?
      
      What say you Mr Farrar? How about hosting an open discussion? Or at the very least, ask for a response from the relevant Minister?
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:25pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      A quiet word of advice to any MP who might be reading this. If I was you I’d be quietly making my way to the “I didn’t know” lifeboat and booking a place.
      At some point the truth will make it to the majority of people in NZ who trusted these politicians and their “experts”, when it does, there will be an awful lot of very angry people. No, not the “river of filth anti vaxxers”, we’ve mostly said all we have to say.
      No, the rest of the ordinary NZers who believed that Ardern and co had their best interests at heart. This level of betrayal doesn’t go down too well with people. A lot of people will be very very unhappy.
      
      You don’t want to be in the “fuck you, you rivers of filth” lifeboat. Not very pleasant company.
      
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      April 26, 2023 12:36pm
    - miltonF
      
      So true. Either the worlds biggest mistake or it was deliberate. You’d think at this stage, with what we now know, that these people would be desperate to come out and admit this was a mistake. So why aren’t they? I have the feeling that most of our politicians and “experts” are well aware that their offending does not meet the criteria of negligence. Their crimes were researched in advance and well orchestrated. They accepted financial payments to push the narrative. They understand full well that they should be charged with manslaughter or even murder.
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:49pm
- Simon
  
  The “Science” is hopeless politicized it cant be relied upon to achieve objective results.
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Let’s attack Trump. Hush money from where?
Look at all the other charges he is facing. He must be bad, he must not win in 2024. We must embarrass him so he gets less votes.

Meanwhile in another part of the World:
https://billingsreport.com/the-number-of-bidens-receiving-payola-increases-to-twelve-corleones-are-jealous/
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April 26, 2023 8:44am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The more the attacks by mainstream media, the more you know the subject is over the target and is doing something good. The establishment is intent on destroying them.
  It’s my go to indicator now, when I see it happening I pay closer attention to the subject of the vitriol. They are clearly exposing nefarious shit.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:57am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Liberal Mental Disorder. Smoke as much pot as you like, but all tobacco pruducts to be banned?
https://billingsreport.com/new-york-health-dept-explores-banning-all-tobacco-products/
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April 26, 2023 8:48am
Maggy Wassilieff

Brian Easton begins to navigate through muddied waters:

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2023/04/24/brian-easton-watering-down-three-waters/
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April 26, 2023 8:59am
Grunter

Climate Change is a complete scam…. And the NZ Govt is as guilty of fraud as any of them.

According to Mark Mills in a report from the Manhattan Institute, concludes that:

“The lessons of the recent decade make it clear that solar, wind, and battery technologies cannot be surged in times of need, are neither inherently ‘clean’ nor even independent of hydrocarbons, and are not cheap.”

With all that in mind, it should be clear that so-called renewables—more accurately, unreliables—have been a giant flop. They are not viable for baseload power. Using wind and solar for mass power generation is a political solution that would not have been chosen on a genuinely free market for energy.

Governments worldwide have spent over US$5 trillion in the past two decades to subsidise wind, solar, and other so-called renewables? However, even with that astronomical financial support, the world still depends on hydrocarbons for 84% of its energy needs—down only 2% since governments started binge spending on renewables 20 years ago.
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April 26, 2023 9:00am
- cmm
  
  “And the NZ Govt is as guilty of fraud as any of them.”
  
  Not just the government (which includes the opposition), but the whole damn swamp!
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:27am
  - Nickc2
    
    Ya can’t believe anything ya read in our media. They’ve been bought pure and simple.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:00pm
- gravedodger
  
  Just stick with “unreliables” greater resonance and yes far more accurate, Grunter.
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:27am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I keep on reading things about sea levels rising. It is 100cm, 1M, 2M, 50mm.
  These idiots just have no idea. Working with a roving decimal point. Not knowing how to measure and how to write it down.
  Best thing for me is to totally ignore them. Their math schooling has failed them.
  Being s metal fabricator I know how to measure, these idiots don’t.
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:45am
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    a metal f*
    
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    April 26, 2023 11:50am
  - mawm
    
    Measured sea levels have been rising since man started recording them. The rise is linear, not exponential like the climate change activists want us to believe.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:14pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      To rise somewhere it has to be taken from somewhere else.
      North Pole Artic is out, the idiots finally realise it is floating therefore displacing.
      Glaciers? I think not. I have been to a place that has over 300,000 glaciers – most un-named.
      Up the planet getting fatter at the middle during it’s orbit? Or spinning faster then slower? Nope.
      So where to now? There must be some way we can have an easy job and get exorbitant Taxes from somewhere.
      Coming out of a mini ice age 10,000 years ago? Nope they won’t let that true idea fly.
      
      Let’s go back to Uni and do more studies with Taxpayers footing the bill
      
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      April 26, 2023 3:21pm
- Bloody Dago
  
  Climate changes (the verb) every nanosecond
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:49am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sea level rises twice a day too. Try and stop that!
    
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    April 26, 2023 3:28pm
BeaB

Our PM lamented he was never taught where Waterloo School’s name came from until he was grown-up but now kids will learn NZ history which apparently will include the Battle of Waterloo.
How can any reasonably intelligent kid not know about Waterloo? Why was he never curious about the name? Why didn’t he learn anything unless he was taught it?
Perhaps this is why he was the do-nothing minister of education. Perhaps this is the new way.
After all, Harvard has recognised Jacinda Ardern’s stellar intellectual accomplishment with two fellowships.
I don’t know if we are lions but we are certainly being led by donkeys.
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April 26, 2023 9:02am
- cmm
  
  Anyone with half a brain knows that real education does happen in schools o. At best, schools help people develop a few tools to help them in their education.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:30am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    cmm – the whole premise of the excellent movie Good Will Hunting. If you haven’t watched it, here’s the trailer.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReIJ1lbL-Q8
    
    Nominated for 9 Academy Awards.
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:32am
  - Burtland
    
    yeah the tools are YouTube and TikTok
    – how to hotwire a Prius is very popular, no literacy required
    Hate to think what damage ChatGPT will do.
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:44am
- Taieri
  
  A few years ago I spent a couple of weeks with a group of teenagers. About 40 of them. Not a single one of them knew who Charles Darwin was. Not a single one of them heard about “On the Origin of Species”. All of them were in the last year of their high school “education”.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:33am
  - Swifty
    
    That so greatly saddens me.
    
    Not once in their lives did their parents or teachers find time to mention one of our greatest scientific works and one which explains how we, and all other life, evolved to be as we are?
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:41am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Until quite recently Evolution was only taught in 7th Form – Year 13 Biology.
      
      When I went 2ndry Teacher Training in the 1990s I remember commenting to one of our Tutors how ridiculous this was… Her reply (and I can’t remember if it was Rose Hipkins, or our other Bio tutor) was that pupils weren’t mature enough to understand Evolution until they were in senior high school.
      
      Of course the real reason was that Bio teachers were too damn afraid to deal with fundamentalist parents.
      
      To its credit the current Science curriculum allows Evolution to be mentioned from the first year of schooling.
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:40am
      - Swifty
        
        Thanks Maggy.
        
        Not mature enough. What rubbish. My kids have been taught about evolution in age appropriate ways since I first started holding conversations with them.
        
        I told them openly and honestly what I knew and what I didn’t know. What nobody knows. They have been some of the best and most rewarding conversations I’ve ever had in my life – and no need to fill in the blanks with magic fairy stuff.
        
        Oh, and we’ve had a copy of ‘Origin of Species’ on our bookshelves since forever. I don’t believe any of them have ever read it through but I’m certain it has been leafed. At least they know about it and what it deals with.
        
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        April 26, 2023 12:14pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Little kids understand one of the fundamentals of evolution from a very early age: Variation
        
        *A little girl can recognize that she is not a clone of a her mummy
        
        *Unless a child is an identical twin, he/she can recognize that she/he differs from their siblings.
        
        And at an early age many children can start to appreciate aspects of inheritance – shared features with their cuzzies, grandparents, etc.
        
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        April 26, 2023 1:32pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    School kids will certainly know about survival of the fittest, though
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Bullrush!
      
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      April 26, 2023 4:09pm
  - mandk
    
    Maybe Darwin got cancelled without anyone knowing because he was a racist.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:48am
  - Paulus
    
    But I bet they all knew how to do the Haka though.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:52pm
- dubya
  
  Hey, I went to Waterloo School, and always just assumed the founder had a crush on Agnetha back in the 1970s.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:45am
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes, sadly most young people these days are not aware that Waterloo was a song by ABBA , fortunately Wellington, the New Capital of Aotearoans will soon have a proper Aotearoan name instead of a meaningless one.
    
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    April 26, 2023 11:39am
  - Dave
    
    Abba??!! Good grief. Named after Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks from 1967, surely?
    
    Why should Waterloo mean any more to your average teenager than Wellington, Wellesley St or Picton? They are just names.
    
    One of the advantages of growing up in the 1950s without TV and the internet, was that relatives gave me, an avid reader, some one volume encyclopaedias which I read from end to end, and picked this sort of information up; also picked up from reading my mother’s Georgette Heyer regency romances. So, as a teenager in Glen Eden, I knew the significance of the roads named Captain Scott, Evans, Bowers, Wilson, Oates, but how many teenagers would know that now without someone telling them?
    
    During the lockdown, I went for very long walks and came upon a cluster of avenues: Mons, Cambrai, Louvain, Admiral Beatty, Haig, Foch. Being interested in WW1, I immediately understood, and guessed the age of the streets and houses, but as a teenager, probably wouldn’t have known at all.
    
    All of which makes me marginally more sympathetic to Māori desires to incorporate Māori cultural history in NZ placenames, though I doubt they will succeed much when so many Māori names are not part of the majority‘s cultural knowledge and tend towards the sesquipedalian.
    
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    April 26, 2023 2:51pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Snap Dave.
      My parents bought a second hand copy of Arthur Mees Encyclopedia in the late 50s. 10 thick volumes which I read from cover to cover.
      
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      April 26, 2023 7:02pm
- rockape
  
  Probably thought it was named after an ABBA song.
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:15am
- Burtland
  
  We used to do the STUFF quizz at smoko- none of the 20 somethings would participate – they didnt know the answers. And this lot were Uni graduates.
  
  Not wanting to participate was much worse than not knowing.
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:38am
  - Random T Person
    
    My 8 and 10 year olds LOVE stuff quiz!
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:33pm
RoboRob

25c Fuel Tax return

Grant has yet again stated the 25c tax is coming back. We all know that continues to be bullshit. He knows its bullshit too. One might ask why he would re announce it again.

Me thinks its creative accounting. By confidently announcing its return in June he can include the millions (billions?) of revenue in his budget, which will make his numbers significantly better.

Personally I think it should NEVER come back. We need to rethink fuel taxes and perhaps move everyone to road user charges. There are a ton of people on full EVs paying no road tax, and people with low fuel usage cars paying a minimum of tax (including me). That number is only going to increase. That is unfair as these cars use the same roads and cause similar wear and tear. Labour knows this but doesn’t want to talk about taxing EVs until after the election.
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April 26, 2023 9:05am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It doesn’t go on until after June, this not showing a spike in inflation till we’ll after the election, playing mind games is sickening, get ready for higher petrol
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:02am
  - RoboRob
    
    Don’t worry G, it wont happen. In June it will be pushed out again, because of the up coming election.
    
    That’s my point, he’s only announcing it so it can be counted as a future revenue stream in the budget, making the numbers look better.
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:44am
    - Paulus
      
      He has made it clear that it will not be extended so he can embarrass and blame the incoming Government.
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:57pm
- gravedodger
  
  Err not so RoboRob, EVs of similar space are heavier and therefore according to transport data have a greater impact on road wear.
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:37am
  - RoboRob
    
    Was just being ‘general’ There are plenty of Big petrol cars that do more damage then small electric cars too.
    
    My point is, we should ‘equally’ pay for road costs. Probably cyclists (which I also am) should pay something too. We need to update the way we pay for this, petrol taxes were great and easy but are no longer valid.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:04pm
- Burtland
  
  another budget hole being created by Labour
  deferring maintenance on state houses was a Cullen masterclass
  
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  April 26, 2023 10:57am
- Paulus
  
  Like Cullen – Robertson knows that he will be a List MP doing sweet fa after the election so will leave as much damage for the incoming Government as CullenLClark did when Labour got beaten last time.
  Then he will bitch like hell against how the Government tries to sort out this unholy mess.
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:56pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

I found this article sent to me by a colleague, both horrific & heart breaking.
Anyone considering ‘Transitioning’ needs to read details of this experiment conducted by Dutch Surgeons, the results of which were published in the ‘Journal-of-Pediatric & Adolescent-Gynecology’.

https://thepostmillennial.com/trans-teen-died-from-vaginoplasty-complications-during-landmark-dutch-study-used-to-justify-child-sex-changes
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April 26, 2023 9:07am
- Taieri
  
  Dr Josef Mengele would have been proud of such talented disciples…
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:35am
- Swifty
  
  After these surgical interventions these people aren’t in possession of a vulva and vagina – all they are left with is a wound.
  
  A wound that in many cases will cause them a lifetime of medical problems. In some of those cases horrific problems.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:37am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    And lesbians who don’t want anything to do with these “women” are called transphobic and savagely attacked.
    
    Lesbians fought for their rights over the last 50 years. Now they are being bullied by men who use womanhood as some fetish costume. And governments like the New Zealand government cheer on the men masquerading as women.
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:37am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      And THIS from ‘Investigate Magazine’….
      
      https://twitter.com/investigatemag/status/1650990890545213440
      
      What are kids are facing in school 🙁
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:01am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        We have a 13 year old just started. Term 2. We are watching VERY closely.
        
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        April 26, 2023 12:49pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        And as you should Clan.
        Pray tell, what has any of this ideological crap got to do with education?
        
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        April 26, 2023 1:26pm
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    So in this case they could not use the penis to make a vagina because puberty blockers made the penis non functional. So they used part of the guy’s intestine to make a penis. Then he got an infection and died of flesh eating bacteria.
    
    How are these doctors not charged?
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:40am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Yes, the report states they used his…. Colon 🙁
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:23am
Nickc2

As most will already know, John Tamihere (Maori Party President) has stated Maori own NZ’s Water!

Do you agree with him?

Uptick for NO, or
Downtick for YES

Comments welcome.
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April 26, 2023 9:12am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I’m 60% water.
  
  Perhaps John thinks he owns 60% of me.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:43am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I think we are 90% water are we not?
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:03am
    - The Redbaiter
      
      Some are much more watery than others.
      
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      April 26, 2023 10:36am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Your salty 👍🏻
        
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        April 26, 2023 11:24am
    - Matt Long
      
      Certainly the wet faction of National is, does JT own them too?
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:43am
    - Ehlana
      
      It averages 60%, but ranges from 45% to 75%. Apparently it decreases as you age.
      
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      April 26, 2023 11:46am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Some are just big drips
        
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        April 26, 2023 4:19pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s a major “greenhouse” gas .
  Are they responsible for the global warming component of H2O.
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:55am
- DeepBlue
  
  John Tamihere, in Auckland, is going to get a tribal surprise when Tainui bill him for Wakato River water, who are in turn are billed by Ngaiti Tuwharetoa for Tonagriro National Park snow melt.
  
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  April 26, 2023 2:23pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    He’ll just add margin
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:32pm
mandk

It’s a stupid argument.

Here’s a better argument:
Where does NZ’s water come from? Rainfall.

Where does the rain come from? Mostly from the Tropic of Capricorn.

Who owns it, then? No one. It comes mainly from the open ocean.
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April 26, 2023 9:45am
Maggie Pie

Very interesting….

Adrian intends easing the mortgage loan-to-value-ratio (LVR) restrictions in June.

Just in time for the election.

https://rbnz.govt.nz/hub/news/2023/04/reserve-bank-proposes-to-ease-lvr-restrictions

Day-o Day-o 😀
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April 26, 2023 10:28am
I remember when

Napier facing rates rises of nearly 12% as cyclone costs soar: HB Today.
The rise follows a 9.8% jump, the biggest in 20 years, last year.
This year includes a new 2% “disaster recovery rate” intended to cover the $1.5m Cyclone Gabrielle recovery in the 2023/4 annual plan.

With many probably wondering whether to remain in their current property, the turmoil continues.
Makes results in Hawke’s interesting this election.
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April 26, 2023 10:44am
- emmess
  
  My house insurance went up over 40%
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:13pm
I remember when

HB Today:
Has early details of the Porangahau earthquake ‘swarm.’ this morning.
Seems to include a tsunami warning.
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April 26, 2023 10:49am
- sirknz
  
  There’s always a tsunami warning, and 99.9% of the time they seem to amount to nothing.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:07pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    sirknz – they ALL amount to nothing. That’s the concern, crying wolf leads to tragic outcomes in the long term.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:51pm
I remember when

“Very disappointed’: Maori woman barred from entering Aussie pub for having moko kauae: Newshub.

I guess not entering an Aussie pub isn’t the end of the world, but it does remind us that there can be unexpected outcomes.
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April 26, 2023 10:55am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I’m guessing they had a “no visible tats” policy?
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:52pm
  - Ehlana
    
    The argument usually made is that Maori tattoos are status symbols in their culture, whereas they are looked down on in European and other cultures.
    
    Even if the pub understands and accepts this, the problem is that they have to be seen to treat all patrons equally, especially by the patrons themselves. And bar staff can hardly be expected to be experts in cultural understanding of tattoos.
    
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    April 26, 2023 2:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Tucker Carlson was sacked not just because of the tangle with Dominion. Yep, from the top.
https://valiantnews.com/2023/04/fox-news-fired-carlson-over-ray-epps-january-6-reporting-report/
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April 26, 2023 10:58am
MCōs

So it looks like it could be Biden v Trump again
How tedious is that
Don’t they have anyone else?
When will trump start complaining the election will be rigged?
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April 26, 2023 11:12am
- Ghost
  
  So, deep state vs deep state? Swamp vs swamp.
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:29am
- Don Beckett
  
  You mean like Hillary Clinton did ?
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She is still fuming over that. The hate runs deep.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:08pm
- kowtow
  
  Oh well the tech billionaires could always stump up another half billion or so , to “save” the election .
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:52am
- Che Guava
  
  Trump was correctly predicting ballot fraud as early as June 2020, so it’s not like he cried foul only after the fact. But because nothing much (if anything) has been done to prevent fraud occurring again, it is pretty safe to say that until something substantive is done about it, the idea of legitimate and fair elections in the US will be a quaint relic.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:22pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  MCōs – if you ever needed evidence that democracy is a sham, that is all you need right there. It’s a Punch and Judy show. It’s Plato’s Cave.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:53pm
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING…

Nanaia look-a-like denied entry to Brisbane pub 😀

https://twitter.com/NewshubNZ/status/1650975109052772352
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April 26, 2023 11:18am
- mandk
  
  Aww, diddums. Poor love has got hurty feelings.
  
  Well lady, if you choose to live in Aus, you follow Aus rules.
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:31am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    I recall a few years back a woman with a facial tattoo got refused an interview for a job as a flight attendant at Air New Zealand. Went wailing to the press.
    
    No recognition that employing folk with facial tattoos would tank their Japanese market. It is all about the chick with the tattoo.
    
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    April 26, 2023 11:57am
    - Jack5
      
      National leader Luxon when chief executive of Air NZ changed the rules allowing cabin staff to have visible tattoos.
      
      He was reported as saying: “Allowing staff to display non-offensive tattoos proves the airline’s commitment ‘to building a diverse and inclusive workplace that truly reflects the makeup of Aotearoa’.”
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/113363912/air-new-zealand-turnaround-on-tattoos-overdue
      
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      April 26, 2023 2:15pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        Pass the chuck bucket.
        
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        April 26, 2023 6:40pm
  - peterwn
    
    She is off to see a lawyer to sue the pub for discrimination. Presumably some lawyer will pick it up in the hope of a 30% cut. Trouble is, if a pub has a no tats rule how are the bouncers to know that they are offending some foreign culture by not admitting someone with a tat.
    Anyway the pub has now decided that Moku’s are OK.
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:13pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Thing is, it’s not just a Moku….got more tatz than a MS13 gangsta
      
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      April 26, 2023 4:30pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Just as an aside, when our Foreign Minister visits Japan, she will be given wide accommodations by Japan diplomatic officers. Because they are professional. However in the normal course of events, a woman with extensive facial tattoos would face a pile of grief in Japan. Forget visiting a bath house or communal recreation facility. She would be able to stay in a five star hotel if it were arranged in advance. Japanese guesthouses or family owned accommodation. Forget it. Most eating places – forget it.
  
  Maori women need to understand that New Zealand is an insignificant country at the bottom of the world. They can’t enforce their customs globally, no matter how hurt their feelings or hos much they cry to the New Zealand press.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:04pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Wido – that’s the problem, they are being encouraged to force their customs in NZ so believe it makes them special. They aren’t.
    This is not saying I don’t like or respect them, I’m saying it doesn’t make you special or that you should expect privileged treatment.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:03pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I always thought the Moko was for a female of status, a leader of leaders.
  These days it is a free for all.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:13pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    For many it’s a fashion accessory, like those in Wellington who do the whole greenstone or whalebone swinging shit to see who has the biggest…..
    I have a very close Maori friend who worked in Te Papa doing the cultural tours. A genuine, culturally connected, beautiful person. I was welcomed onto their marae many times.
    
    She detested the Wellington academic and political social scene. Said it was full of plastic Maoris.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:00pm
    - Grumpy Silver Haired Female
      
      Plastic Maoris: perfect. A poor quality substitute for the real thing. A just like Barbie dolls, just not right (correct).
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:20pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        That was her term BTW, not mine.
        
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        April 26, 2023 3:47pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Fashion accessory yes. But I thought it was sort of sacred. Permission had to come from Tribal Leaders or something. I am a bit disappointed, I thought it was respected more.
      Now I have a whalebone fish hook. It is actually plastic. Hollow, made from a two piece mold. About 12 inches long and 4 inches at it’s widest point. Say 1 1/2 inches deep.
      Sure gets some looks at parties. Never offended anyone, but I have not worn it out for a while.
      
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      April 26, 2023 1:51pm
  - Paulus
    
    Wait until a Schoolgirl turns up at school with a Moko.
    Can’t be far away.
    
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    April 26, 2023 2:01pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Island boys already get tattoos in their secondary school years on cultural grounds
      
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      April 26, 2023 4:36pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Is it like ‘no jewelry? I am sure most girls and guys have ear piercings.
      I am sure if a high school girl is allowed a Moko, the guys must surely follow with sleeve tattoos. Some transistors might wand a Moko too!
      As I have said before, I am 70 and plan to clock out in 20 years. I pity the people now around 20 yrs will have to put up with this shit for 50 years!! Bloody good job!
      
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      April 26, 2023 4:42pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Juanita McNamara……..🤡
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:56pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Same tribe as Willie Jackson…… Urban Maori 😎
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:07pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I like this tweet: “She should just take it on the chin.”
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:18pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

For more than I have written, go to the website/blog.

A group of Maori have set up their own Parliament in Te Awamutu.
They have a woke German Lawyer, Dr. Reiner Fuellmich. See video in the blog link.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-an-elite-maori-in-2023-and-an-anzac-soldier-2/

A Tauranga donor has given $43,000. This movement is taking off.

A young Woman from Tauranga wants to start a New Youth Division Of Stop-Governance.
That is to say, Joy is going to de-program all the young people who have been brainwashed so that they change sides, and join us in stopping co-governance.

The ‘awakening’ among young people is about to begin! Go Joy!
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April 26, 2023 11:23am
- DimChappie
  
  I wish Joy and her partner great success in waking up younger voters to the threat of Co-Governance. Also I hope Julian prepares them for the pressure of being labelled racist/white supermacist/colonial.
  He has said there will be street marches in Tauranga. I can’t wait to watch them on TV.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:24pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Hope Joy’s partner has a bit of bulk in case things get out of hand. Being a bit bigger is a good advantage when some little weed starts the nonsense.
    
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    April 26, 2023 1:56pm
Maggie Pie

Sounds like ZB’s Kerry Woodham has lost the plot.

Said….. she fully supports the Kiwibank New-Zealander-of-the-Year award going to transgender activist Shaneel Lal 🙁

Go woke. Go broke.
Stupid woman.
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April 26, 2023 11:53am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Yeah maybe apart from Hosking, I am just going back to listening to Mahler symphonies in my 2002 Toyota Celica. Better for my blood pressure 🙁
  
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  April 26, 2023 11:58am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Katie is MY absolute fave. She’s with Mike in the UK at the moment.
    I’ve got her bringing me back a bottle of Tom Ford Oud Parfum.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:18pm
  - rockape
    
    I kind of go for Ramstein myself.
    
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    April 26, 2023 2:34pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      YIP…like you, absolutley love their music as well.
      
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      April 26, 2023 3:04pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Did she explain why?
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:35pm
  - Simon
    
    “Did she explain why?”
    
    Ad revenue.
    
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    April 26, 2023 12:58pm
- Simon
  
  The advertisers make the calls not any particular clown you hear on the radio. Kiwi bank & the govt, woke corps.
  
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  April 26, 2023 12:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Which one did you mean…..
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:43pm
sirknz

Special K has made an announcement about stopping the uplift of ‘their kids’ by ‘Oranga Tamariki’. https://archive.fo/k23Du [$tuff]

Any guesses as to who will be to blame when these kids are abused even further?
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April 26, 2023 12:15pm
- Piniwi
  
  Does OT pay the burial expenses for those unfortunate little children who end up cold and hard on a slab somewhere.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:08pm
Simon

Its now completely wide open for National to introduce a tax free income band say the first $10,000. This will win the election.

But Luzon / Willis the couple of fuckups running National will miss this opportunity.
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April 26, 2023 12:55pm
- Piniwi
  
  Simon you seem to have a fact filter on your brain that prevents you hearing any real detail from anybody an X in their name. However we see today that Labour are sticking with the same old same old envy and fear tactics with their tailored tax reports. Honestly does anybody with an IQ better than their hat size believe a word they say. They seem to miss the point the higher earners who are able to offset their tax grab get caught when they spend more through GST, duties and levies.
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:13pm
- Bullion
  
  Yeah, I agree. Offset with a land value tax or comprehensive capital gains tax. Tax working less and capital more.
  
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  April 26, 2023 3:54pm
  - kowtow
    
    Simple answer is govt spend less and stop the vast waste.
    
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    April 26, 2023 8:19pm
cas

Some random observations from a visit to town.

1 If you need/want a B12 injection you can’t get one as there are apparently none in NZ ( other than doctor’s stockpiles).
2 There was a woman sitting inside the door at the local supermarket getting people to fill in census forms. This census will be a shambles.
3 Woman in front of us at the checkout who would not have ticked NZ/European on the census form got 3 packets of cigarettes.
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April 26, 2023 1:08pm
- MCōs
  
  There was a woman brown skinned women at the supermarket who spent around $100 on cigarettes.
  There was a white skinned woman on this forum who spent twice that without batting an eye on crayfish the other day.
  Didn’t even ask the price beforehand hand.
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:28pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is a bit coarse.
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:53pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    That’s a wee bit uncalled for don’t you think Cossie?
    
    I mean, it wasn’t YOUR money I was using to buy the Cray.
    
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    April 26, 2023 5:25pm
    - MCōs
      
      Have I ever objected to how you spent your money?
      Cas above seems to suggest if one is brown there is something suspicious about buying expensive cigarettes.
      As far as I’m concerned they can mind their own business.
      
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      April 26, 2023 7:05pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Bet you and the missus enjoy a Cray every now and then don’t you Cossie?
        
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        April 26, 2023 7:19pm
- Piniwi
  
  Great cas. “3 Woman in front of us at the checkout who would not have ticked NZ/European on the census form got 3 packets of cigarettes.” But she might have got a free house full free furniture so can use her increased benefit wisely.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:04pm
  - Ghost
    
    Or she could be a hard working lady spending her money. Amazing how people can see someone and automatically think they are on a benefit.
    
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    April 26, 2023 9:08pm
Chris Nisbet

Headline: “Tax report is not about attacking the rich”
Translation: ‘Rich’ people better hold onto their hats.
Reason?: You can’t spend the last few years doing what we’ve donr to the country without trying to recoup the money somehow, and low income people don’t actually pay much tax anyway, oh, and they’re our voter base.
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April 26, 2023 1:43pm
- Jack5
  
  Further to Chris Nisbet’s post …
  
  Treasury report finds richest pay half as much tax on dollar of income as the rest of the people do, says Stuff, adding:
  
  Revenue Minister David Parker said the low tax rate was explained by the fact they received about 80 per cent of their income in form of capital gains …
  
  It was Jacinda Ardern who axed her party’s plans to introduce an effective capital gains tax (compared with the tiny one we have now).
  
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  April 26, 2023 1:57pm
- Prince
  
  So the tax increases they implemented, and the massive borrowing they instigated are still not enough to fund their failed policies and their greedy mates. They are looking for new revenue streams, rather than consider the wasteful spending they have sponsored.
  
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  April 26, 2023 3:09pm
- Piniwi
  
  Thank Chris apparently there a two (damning ) tailored to their requirements. The obvious outcome is Labour falling back on their old habits of using envy and fear to get the voters excited. Shades of the old cloth cap and hobnail boot tamping around shouting expletives. They are hamstrung by the only promise they really don’t want to keep of NO NEW TAXES THIS TERM.
  They got their own sequence wrong and have been spending like mad and are now struggling to get the TAX & SPEND sequence back in place.
  
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  April 26, 2023 9:00pm
Maggie Pie

Shaneel (They/Them) Lall fails in basic math……

https://twitter.com/shaneellall/status/1651023588353536001

What would David Parker rather collect from an individual every year?

20.2% of $31,000.00

OR

9.4% of $5,000,000.00

SHEESH!!!
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April 26, 2023 1:56pm
- Taieri
  
  What does he actually get paid for, this Shaneel or whatever his name is? What’s his line of work?
  
  Anyway, the richest of the rich pay what the tax laws require them to pay. No more and not less. End of story.
  
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  April 26, 2023 2:41pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  It blows me away how much tax these people are paying. I honestly thought it’d come in around 3-4% based on their use of unrealised gains.
  
  I see Max Rashbrooke has stated that the fact they’re unrealised is irrelevant because they’ll eventually be sold and that income won’t be captured but Max Rashbrooke doesn’t know what he’s talking about so no surprises there.
  
  Residential rental properties are a bit different (messy) but most appreciating assets (commercial property, businesses, dividend generating shares) are valued based on the present value of future income. Therefore, any “income” on the sale of that asset for the seller is equal to the “expense” on the purchase of the asset for the buyer. It’s a timing issue at best.
  
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  April 26, 2023 2:59pm
- cmm
  
  It’s one thing to make an inflammatory and click-baity statement that more wealthy people pay less tax (percentage wise), but it is quite another to come up with a solution.
  
  Those rich people are only paying less tax when you take into account asset appreciation (aka capital gains) which is not necessarily “income”.
  
  So what’s the solution? CGT? If so, how do you apply it to make that “fair”.
  
  Bring out CGT and two things are likely to happen:
  * Massive sell off of investment properties as people cash up to avoid CGT and move their wealth somewhere where it is welcome (likely overseas).
  * Relocation of high earning individuals (doctors etc) overseas where they can become wealthy.
  
  What would that do?
  * Massive property price slump, making tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people upside down in their mortgages.
  * NZ IQ drops a few more points and becomes a NO GO zone for anyone with money or possibility to earn it.
  
  There’s an Aesop’s Fable about this. Something to do with geese and eggs or such.
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:04pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes I remember that….’Leda and the Goose’
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:33pm
  - artemisia
    
    Wonder if the report compared age of asset owners.
    
    Big difference between age of the average ordinary Kiwi and the average super rich. Because?
    .
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:41pm
  - Mike
    
    Colbert had a good line about taxation and geese.
    
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    April 26, 2023 5:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Twitter:
It makes perfect sense for the richest man on the planet.
If you have $280bn in the bank, then you can blow 99.9% on anything and the remaining $280M is still enough to keep you off the streets.
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April 26, 2023 2:01pm
Chuck Bird

Fom Family First

The Government wants a ‘Bethlehem’ clause

https://mailchi.mp/familyfirst.org.nz/action-alert-lgbttqia-group-on-every-school-board?e=8630869020
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April 26, 2023 2:04pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Twitter 12 months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1IUj-9GeWg
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April 26, 2023 2:06pm
Maggie Pie

STATS NZ saying…. one-in-5 have not returned their Census papers.

So how many New Zealanders find themselves in this predicament?

https://twitter.com/NewshubNZ/status/1651042168872763394
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April 26, 2023 2:27pm
- greybeard
  
  If I own 6 properties, do I receive 6 papers or just one ?
  If I reply for one property out of the 6, does that mean that 5 “people” have not returned their papers ?
  
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  April 26, 2023 2:30pm
  - Ehlana
    
    I think the “household” return is meant to be completed once for each household, then a return for each individual resident.
    If your six properties are rented out, the tenants of each should have completed the household return.
    If they are empty, I guess you do the household return.
    
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    April 26, 2023 2:35pm
- Prince
  
  One in five have not returned…
  How do they know ? Perhaps some people have multiple identities in some of our systems, eg beneficiaries.
  
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  April 26, 2023 3:05pm
Nickc2

Well, there goes any incentive for NZers to be successful in life.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/wealthy-pay-half-tax-rate-of-average-kiwis-ird-report/4LECQAM6XJAZNKEPWEWZSMIEN4/
Will Hipkins rule our a CGT if re-elected?
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April 26, 2023 2:31pm
- Bullion
  
  Do we want to incentivise work and productivity or speculation?
  
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  April 26, 2023 3:57pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Well, we can see what their election campaign’s probably going to be based on.
    They’ll revert to the old Pom Unionist tactic of raining down hate and scorn on the bosses who actually pay them.
    Margret Thatcher killed that tactic by putting the British Miners in their place. Now, our Labour Party will most likely resurrect it for the upcoming election.
    
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    April 26, 2023 4:42pm
- MCōs
  
  Bugger off to Oz where they already have cgt
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:34pm
  - Bullion
    
    So many people now worried about a brain drain to Aus where they have a cgt and fair pay agreements. Maybe those same people shouldn’t be so anti those things in New Zealand as well.
    
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    April 26, 2023 10:32pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Why is this rotten-to-the-core government intent on penalizing success?

Asking for a very successful friend.
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April 26, 2023 3:42pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s something to do with equity…
  
  Matthew 25:29
  Mark 4:25
  Luke 19:26
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:03pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/131833354/suicide-of-auckland-council-employee-came-after-greatly-increasing-work-stress

A person takes her own life.
She used to work for the Auckland Council.
She sometimes had problems with her employer.
Sometimes her work environment was “stressful”, or demanding.

Therefore, her problems with the Auckland Council are the cause of her suicide.

RUBBISH !

Did she have any other underlying problems?
Had she had any recent relationship breakdowns?
Were there any financial problems? Family problems?
Was there anything in her past which could have contributed to her state of mind and eventual action ?
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April 26, 2023 3:58pm
- Inandout
  
  grey, my wife used to work for the local council and she can vouch that 50% of the workforce were skivers. Untold sick leave on the flimsiest of excuses and long lunches when at work.
  
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  April 26, 2023 6:05pm
- kowtow
  
  Disgusting.
  
  $t1ffed politicising suicide.
  
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  April 26, 2023 8:11pm
Ghost

Great, just what we need….

The World Health Organization (WHO) says there’s a “huge biological risk” after Sudanese rebels of the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) seized the country’s National Public Health Laboratory in the capital Khartoum on Tuesday.

Article
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April 26, 2023 4:20pm
Ghost

Good news ladies, Maybelline have a new spokesthingy….

Trans activist Dylan Mulvaney has scored another paycheck – this time with Maybelline cosmetics.

And just like the backlash over his ill-fated Bud Light ad, Mulvaney – a biological male whose ditzy female persona is deeply offensive to women – the Maybelline sponsorship has prompted a similar response.

Article
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April 26, 2023 4:30pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Maybe Mabelline may be maybegone.
  
  How does anyone in these corporates not look at the fallout and go hmmmmmmmm?
  
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  April 26, 2023 4:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I will repost this maybe tomorrow. Tucker Carlson.
https://rumble.com/v2k8w9g-tucker-carlsons-recent-interview-goes-viral-after-departure-from-fox-news.html
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