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Warren

Auckland Crime: Ram Raid thieves smash through shopping center in Auckland leaving gapping hole.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-crime-ram-raid-thieves-smash-through-shopping-centre-leaving-gaping-hole/OR5YWMI74NHVTDHL62R4OP3O24/
This has become the normal for Cities and Towns around New Zealand because we have a Government out of their depth with no plans or consequences for the young people committing these crimes and a Prime Minister that is only concerned about being elected at the 2023 General Election in September.
This Government has crippled small business with their soft on crime approach and lies about how they have reduced this type of crime.
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April 13, 2023 8:00am
- Ruawai
  
  I still can’t work out how Labour have managed to get judges to not put criminals in jail, surely the laws are still the same.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:32am
  - Mummy
    
    I seriously believe (inside knowledge) that because of a serious shortage of staff, our prisons can’t cope with any more inmates than they already have. There already is serious overcrowding and almost no staff eg one corrections officer on a 6-6 overnight shift to 60 prisoners. Which is why my family member quit after 17 years. Far too dangerous. There is just no room at the inn and the judges have been told to keep as many people out of prison as possible.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:52am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Just 4 years ago there were 10,000 prisoners. Now 7,500, with much of the current crime wave being committed or organised by the 2,500 out in the community.
      Corrections seemed to cope with 10,000. I am sure they can do so again.
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:40am
    - Nickc2
      
      Who told the Judges to keep people out of Jail?
      If it was political, that in itself is a crime isn’t it?
      
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      April 13, 2023 11:56am
    - crikey
      
      But how can there be serious overcrowding when prison numbers have dropped 25% under this Labour government? Perhaps you are right with regard to just the prison your family member worked at.
      
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      April 13, 2023 3:42pm
  - greybeard
    
    Maybe the judges ( and/or their families ) are being intimidated and threatened by the gangs.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:54am
  - Prince
    
    It goes back to Andrew Little ‘Justice Summit’ in 2017,
    Every aspect of the Justice system was told to reduced/remove arrests and sentences to achieve a 30% reduction in the prison population.
    
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    April 13, 2023 12:37pm
    - Jim
      
      A clear signal to criminals that that crime can pay.
      
      Reckless imho, just try a Google search for “San Francisco crime” and see where this tolerance of criminality leads us. Believe me, NZ is well on the way.
      
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      April 13, 2023 5:25pm
- Piniwi
  
  Right Warren but perhaps their biggest mistake is once again be the masters of their trade mark wage/price spiral. They do not comprehend the inflationary pressure of accelerated wage increases then fuelling the fire with massive spending on blatant areas of waste with no gain in productivity.
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:47am
Yvette

What used to be “3 Waters” –
The Great Reset coming today!

A balance is needed here in writing something shorter that will be read, hopefully making a point, but if possible covering several points is desired to show the scale of the stupage that goes into Labour’s “3 waters” and what they are now doing to still establish it, in the face of an Election.

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■ Hipkins said he would not comment on a report today by NZME’s BusinessDesk that the Government had decided to expand the four water entities involved in the contentious water infrastructure reforms – known as Three Waters until recently – into 10.

Amalgamation of council assets into four great regional entities was required to allow loans against those bigger groups. If regions were roughly equal and loan ability 100 percent each for 4, surely now increasing 4 entries to 10 – so 2 and a half times the entities before – reduces each of those ten entries to 40 percent loan power of one of the four entities as set out in legislation already passed last sitting week last year.

“Let’s call it what it is. It’s about making sure we have affordable water infrastructure improvements.
“There is a massive bill coming down the pipeline, if you’ll excuse the pun, in terms of upgrading our water infrastructure – that’s what these reforms are about.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/pm-chris-hipkins-signals-three-waters-rebrand-imminently-wants-focus-on-affordable-water-infrastructure/BC3KC6HXURGQXCOJGU7JP4XL7A/

1 – If you are going to drop “3 Waters” and call it “Affordable water infrastructure”, why would you divide the legislated four regional entries into ten, reducing their loan acquisition ability to 40 percent of what it was planned (consultant advised) to be?

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April 13, 2023 8:01am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Yvette – ‘Great Reset’ indeed.
  
  Looks like Kiri Allen has all the right buzzwords. She wants to “Rebuild Better”. Sound familiar?
  
  https://twitter.com/c_plushie/status/1645933041435676672?s=20
  
  “Managed Retreat” sounds real interesting…..
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:33am
- pdm
  
  Willthe Mahuta Family be out of a job after this reset – I think?
  
  Then commonsense strikes with – no way Jose!!!!
  
  They will probably be further entrenched.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:19am
- rouppe
  
  It’s all just words.
  
  The core egregious elements – 50% unelected representation, Te Mana O Wai statements that can only come from iwi and cannot be rejected, and the formation of essentially a Maori water oligarchy – are still going to be in place.
  
  They will distract from those by continuously talking about the wording rebrand.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:59am
  - Tricati
    
    Well said – Just watch all the spin about preventing rate increases, with rates increasing by $9730 per year by 2054 if nothing done.
    Who’s modelling dreamed up that figure, as with the current levels of inflation, my rates will increase well above $9730 a year by 2054 at this rate.
    Time for National/ACT to hammer the co governance nonsense, especially the Te Mana O Wai statements and the legal effect they have.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:32am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Furthermore with iwi getting special governance powers, there is no laws written about how they must consult or be elected. Eg how many of us have a part Maori family member in our household. How do they vote f or the iwi portion of these governance roles? Will the lgoima rules apply to iwi. Do they have to consult. What about Maori who are not signed up with a particular tribe. Do those linked to multiple tribes get multiple votes.? How is the voting process made private within iwi?
    
    For the Swedish Sami peoples parliament there is a direct vote f or their representatives at polling booths.
    
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    April 13, 2023 8:31pm
- crikey
  
  Yvette: “There is a massive bill coming down the pipeline…”. Sure, a massive bill for the interest charges on massive borrowing. And a bill for for yet to be announced water usage charges.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:45pm
  - Ehlana
    
    I still want to know who these entities are that are willing to lend to 4, 10 or any other number of water service entities which are bound by law to implement any Te Mana o Wai statement issued by any local Maori group – and in fact, are required to fund the development of capacity in such groups to issue these statements. There are no limits on what these statements can say, which could be: stop operating.
    
    So how then would the loans be paid back?
    
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    April 13, 2023 4:57pm
- Drone
  
  The creation of 10 regonal water entities arose because there weren’t enough seats at the table/trough for all the tribes to get a cut.
  
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  April 13, 2023 5:31pm
dave_c_

Ha! Hipkins to announce changes to 3 waters.

A split of 4 proposed water entities into 10.

This is not going to be the end to their ambitions of dividing and ruling us on racial grounds.

Nothing I say, nothing, will convince me that this will be different from the original plans.

And don’t get me started on the “the co-governance element whereby the entities were responsible to boards with a 50/50 split of iwi and council representatives”.

That’ll never be changed or consigned to the dustbin. You won’t hear another word about it, until it is ensconced into law.

Government are yet to clearly explain why there is a need for such draconian reform, in terms that the average Joe Blo understands.
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April 13, 2023 8:02am
- nathie
  
  The question is, are there now 10 iwi/tribal representative groups and if so who are they?
  
  It was reported previously that other iwi groups that were not represented by the 4 original and larger iwi groups (that Labour were dealing with) were not happy about either being excluded or subservient to these “mega” tribes.
  
  Surely getting an answer to a simple question like this to clarify the matter shouldn’t be secretive for Labour?
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:22am
  - Piniwi
    
    But nathie 10 tribes means a bigger scrap but unfortunately as we know from observation the suntan clan always want more and ten wanting an scrapping will cost the country more than 4. Wonder if they have to pay the ute tax as the do love those fronter vehicles in the ute class.
    
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    April 13, 2023 12:31pm
- Dougal10
  
  The have worked out trying to get the ruling iwis down to 4 wasnt going to work. Much easier to have 10 different ones.
  
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  April 13, 2023 2:32pm
Inandout

This street birth in San Fran indicates how far the homelessness issue has descended. To those of us who have witnessed the birth of our children this is no miracle; it is sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixgb-f1DhhE
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April 13, 2023 8:04am
- Gravelroad
  
  The baby will likely be addicted to drugs as well.
  Hope he/she gets the care needed – away from the streets.
  Selfish people thinking only of themselves.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:01am
- NothingLeft
  
  Baby will be drug-damaged and doomed to a shit life.
  
  Permissively accommodating the destructive behaviours of addicts is not kind to anyone.
  
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  April 13, 2023 2:18pm
kiwikidsnz

CT on the Disinformation project:
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/04/13/must-read-restoring-the-narrative-the-political-logic-behind-the-campaign-against-disinformation/
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April 13, 2023 8:07am
- ClanMcleod
  
  kiwikidsnz – here’s some info on one of the chief propagandists and narrative controllers at the Disinformation Project.
  
  Sanjana Hattotuwa was a huge embarrassment in Sri Lanka. He has now found a cushy taxpayer funded job carrying on his shit in NZ.
  
  https://t.me/CoronvirusPlushie/6042
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:12am
  - Swifty
    
    He seems to have become demented:
    
    https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/12/15/maelstrom-of-disinformation-fuelled-baby-blood-case-expert/
    
    Just look at his language.
    
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    April 13, 2023 1:15pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I often wonder if the guy is just faking the woke lunacy for a paycheck. It looks like some kind of comedy skit when he speaks.
    
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    April 13, 2023 6:03pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  kiwikidsnz – also, re Chris Trotter. These were his comments about “anti vaxxers” in 2021.
  
  Just to clarify, I have no problem with what people said at the time. Many were gaslit, conned and propagandised. I have a problem when they refuse to acknowledge their error and retract. No apology needed.
  You need to read this to understand Trotter’s position at the time.
  
  Is it still a tenable proposition to suggest that after so many weeks of unrelenting messaging, from a vast array of sources, delivered from, and to, every conceivable platform, there are still people out there who have not heard that the Pfizer vaccine is tested, efficacious, safe, and absolutely crucial to New Zealand re-emerging into something approximating normality?
  
  It beggars belief to argue that more than a tiny number of such individuals exist.
  
  But, if the message has been received and understood by the yet-to-be-vaccinated, then only one conclusion can reasonably be drawn. The so-called “vaccine hesitant” aren’t really hesitant at all. Though they may lack the courage to come right out and admit to being vaccine resisters, they have, nevertheless, made that choice.
  
  The Labour Government’s professional advisors seem reluctant to accept that this is, indeed, the case. It is possible that their reluctance stems from a deeply ingrained disinclination to hold the ill-treated and excluded members of our society accountable. The proposition that the experience of being ill-treated and excluded makes a human-being more – not less – likely to behave selfishly and, all-too-often, brutally towards others, is quite simply unacceptable. In the eyes of the relevant professionals, such people are victims of circumstances beyond their control. As such, they cannot be held morally accountable. As the French put it: Tout comprendre c’est tout pardoner. To understand all, is to forgive all.
  
  All very well for the sociologists and medical ethicists, but not at all helpful to a Government struggling with the problem of what to do with citizens who refuse to acknowledge either the validity of “The Science”, or their obligations to the collective welfare of the society in which they live.
  
  After all, the proudly vaccine resistant – the so-called “anti-vaxxers” – cannot even point to a brutalised upbringing in poverty as the explanation for their selfishness. In the avowed and proud anti-vaxxer, the state is confronted with the sort of reckless solipsism that it is actually dangerous to ignore. The sort of people who make fake bookings at a vaccination centre in a deliberate attempt to sabotage the system should not be forgiven – they should be punished.
  
  Mr Trotter goes on to actively promote the blatantly discriminatory, divisive policy of segregation by medical status.
  
  In resolving these dilemmas, the Vaccination Certificate emerges as the only viable vector for the virtues of both the Carrot and the Stick. Without it, the Government’s goal of getting 90 percent of the population double-jabbed simply will not be reached before the patience of the already vaccinated expires. If that is allowed to happen (and in Auckland it is not far away) then the authorities will find themselves confronted with even more pressing challenges to New Zealand’s well-being.
  
  Vaccination Certificates promise to be highly efficacious in hurrying along the huge number of young people who have yet to get around to getting themselves vaccinated. The idea of not being able to go to pubs and clubs without “the passport” should be a powerful incentive for this group. Youth is nothing if not highly social. It is also acutely fearful of missing out on the fun its friends are having. If all it takes is a couple of more-or-less painless shots in the arm to gain admission to the footy and the most fashionable music festivals, then WTFN?
  
  For older New Zealanders the looming possibility of “No Jab. No Job” should also hurry along the stragglers. Though pointedly left out of the Prime Minister’s Friday speech, “No Jab. No Job” is only a fast-tracked parliamentary bill away from further arming the authorities against the uncooperative minority.
  
  To those who object that the state is arming itself with a sledgehammer to crush a handful of nuts, the Prime Minister and her colleagues need only cite their duty, as the people’s representatives, to do the greatest good by the greatest number. They have a whole raft of concerns over and above the paranoid fantasies of anti-vaxxers to consider. There are people whose mental fragility is fast becoming critical. Small business owners, in particular, who cannot be expected to see their life’s work ruined because their government pays more heed to the relentless selfishness of a handful of solipsists and anomic lumpenproletarians than it does to those who have done everything the state has asked of them.
  
  Trotter was clearly advocating harsh treatment of the “unbelievers”. I have tried a couple of times to get an update from him re, in the light of the revelations of the last couple of years, has his position now regarding his comments then changed at all.
  So far nothing. This is the part that frustrates.
  
  No apology needed. Simply acknowledgment of the wrongs done and the resulting harm to ALL of us. Then an affirmation never to let this level of tyranny happen again.
  Then we can move on and start getting this country back on track again.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:45am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    I think Trotter is slowly, carefully backing into it. The other day I saw a comment from a woman claiming to be a nurse, where she very bitterly objected to having no choice about taking the vaccine, despite her own medical knowledge suggesting that she didn’t need to. That’s the first “anti-vax” comment I’ve seen him allow.
    
    Then today there’s Trotter over at The Daily Blog, Restoring The Narrative: The Political Logic Behind The Campaign Against Disinformation, especially this bit where he’s writing about the Twitter files:
    
    Controlling the narrative was obviously of enormous importance in the circumstances of a global pandemic. Alternative versions of the significance of Covid-19 raised the spectre of large chunks of the population becoming convinced that the demands of the state, especially the measures it mandated to keep the population safe and to protect the public health system from being overwhelmed, were, in light of their “research”, unreasonable, unwarranted and unwise. For the scientific community in particular, it was vital that this sort of misinformation and disinformation be countered with all the resources at the state’s disposal.
    
    Sure, he’s got that little “out” at the end but in the context of the rest of the State propaganda he’s concerned about it seems like a limited modified hangout.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:39am
    - Matt Long
      
      Mr Trotsky’s authoritarian Marxist sensibilities are temporarily submerged by his dislike of the current flavour of authoritarian Marxists.
      When the evil capitalists gain power he’ll be full Marxist again and looking for another JA saviour to anoint.
      
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      April 13, 2023 3:12pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Oh and BTW, here’s the link to that original Trotter piece you were quoting, Putting on the Armour of Covid Righteousness.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:55am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Thanks. I forgot the link.
      
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      April 14, 2023 7:51am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Elon Musk, Twitter.

https://babylonbee.com/news/leftists-on-twitter-report-disturbing-rise-in-people-they-hate-having-speech
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April 13, 2023 8:08am
- Swifty
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/heroesatwork/status/1645910621182103554
  
  Hate speech is speech that I hate.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Those two clowns just had their lifetime moment of glory.
    What’s the bet they vote Labout – or worse, the Greens?
    
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    April 13, 2023 12:56pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      LABOUR!!!* ffs
      
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      April 13, 2023 2:38pm
      - crikey
        
        I like Labout, a portmanteau word from LABOUR OUT!
        
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        April 13, 2023 3:52pm
- kevn
  
  ‘Affordable Water Reform’…. aka 3 Waters.
  Another hipkins slogan to take home.
  lol, clown circus.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:39am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Still three waters, 10 expensive entities instead of 4 still stealing our rate payer funded assets, and still handing it too Māori
    
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    April 13, 2023 8:50am
    - Paulus
      
      Ngai Tahu has all the South Island, including all the lakes, rivers and all the power generating stations.
      Thereby controlling nearly all the electric power in the country
      QED
      
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      April 13, 2023 1:33pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Full and final?
        
        Other Sth Island land is for anyone to buy without racial heritage shenanigans being later sprung?
        
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        April 13, 2023 6:07pm
  - Yvette
    
    Affordable Water Reform – Whakahou Wai Utu
    May Hipkins gift this name to Mahuta’s 3 Waters Reform
    
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    April 13, 2023 8:57am
    - Ruawai
      
      I thought utu was revenge but see it can also mean repay.
      
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      April 13, 2023 9:38am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It’s payback like Peters Utu on English so Wai is water, do it’s payback for our hatred to 3 waters
        
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        April 13, 2023 12:10pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Giving Auckland our $8.5 billion dollars of infrastructure back will make our water more affordable.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:07am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I thought Jaspinda was the slogan girl?
    Let’s do this!
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:39am
    - blue collar
      
      True steveo ! … rapidly changed to its the intention that counts 😅
      
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      April 13, 2023 2:46pm
  - rouppe
    
    Affordable Water Reform, Facilitating Unelected Leaders
    
    AWRFUL
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:04am
  - crikey
    
    Affordable water reform with no evidence of the affordability. Typical Labour – ‘what we assert is true’.
    
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    April 13, 2023 3:54pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Love him or hate him, Musk is creating awareness of how mainstream media is failing all of us in a dangerous manner.
  
  Here’s a great post re his recent interview with a smarmy BBC tech reporter. Musk exposes him for the sycophantic fraud he is, as are apparently most of the mainstream media these days.
  
  Just a few days ago Musk adorned the @BBC twitter account with a “Government funded media” label. And, at yesterday’s lamb-to-the-slaughter Twitter-Space match, Musk supremely, and effortlessly, intellectually eviscerated James Clayton. Indeed I’d go as far as to say that it was the moment when the BBC’s brand was shredded with the same degree of hubristic-precision as when Bud Light decided to put Dylan Mulvaney’s visage on its beer cans. If James Clayton, and the entire BBC Board, aren’t asking what exactly they stand for after this car-crash, then we can expect more of the same: a humiliating descent into that place where ageing media elephants go to die.
  
  This is why our media in NZ shut down comments and have zero ability to discuss or debate any counter pov. All they have left is ad hominem and smear.
  Check it out every time you read one of NZ’s high profile “journalists” – David Fisher being a prime example.
  
  https://www.thenewera.uk/p/when-clayton-interviewed-musk
  
  They are vacuous propaganda pushers and narrative controllers. Circus clowns the lot of them. Thankfully we have alternative media to get information from, no wonder they are trying to shut it down. But if the best they can come up with in NZ is “The Disinformation Project” then they are screwed.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:52am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Here’s the short form video of the Musk/BBC reporter interviewer.
    
    https://youtu.be/GVUFgmQHOds
    
    Deliciously excruciating. These people are so easily exposed. This is why they rarely come out from under their bridge and engage in discourse. They prefer to throw troll hand grenades from the safety of their hole.
    
    Awesome work Mr Musk. One less shill propagandist.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:54am
Yvette

What used to be “3 Waters”

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■ PM Chris Hipkins signals Three Waters rebrand ‘imminently’ [like, today] – wants focus on ‘affordable water infrastructure’
Asked why he no longer used the phrase “Three Waters” to describe the long-planned reforms, Hipkins said the term had become “somewhat confused”.
Hipkins has previously avoided using the phrase, notably during his statement to Parliament in February outlining his Government’s priorities.
“Because fundamentally, it’s about water infrastructure. And it’s about making sure that we’re dealing with the country’s water infrastructure deficit.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/pm-chris-hipkins-signals-three-waters-rebrand-imminently-wants-focus-on-affordable-water-infrastructure/BC3KC6HXURGQXCOJGU7JP4XL7A/

So Hipkins will now focus on ‘affordable water infrastructure’ – and call it that rather than “3 Waters” – dealing with the country’s water infrastructure deficit – indeed: “deceipt” – because the “co-governance” which was involved at the level of each of Four Regional Entities, may still need to be handled into Ten Entities, but in fact a form of “full governance” is already established in Te Puna, the Maori Advisory Council presiding over Taumata Arowai and their Board itself as well –

■ Taumata Arowai is the water services regulator for Aotearoa
We’re a Crown entity with a Ministerial-appointed board. Alongside the independent board is a Māori Advisory Group, Te Puna.

■ The establishment [November 15, 2021] of Taumata Arowai is one of three pou, pillars, of the Government’s Three Waters Reform programme (the other pou are regulatory and service delivery reform). A dedicated water services regulator will be essential to provide safe and reliable drinking water and improved delivery of waste and storm water.
https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz/about/who-we-are/

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April 13, 2023 8:11am
- Ruawai
  
  Wonder how much the Government paid for the rebrand from ‘3 Waters’ to ‘Affordable waters’.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:44am
  - Matt Long
    
    How much the taxpayer paid.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:14am
Maggie Pie

COURTESY NZ HORRID.

What else would you expect? Haters will Hate…

https://twitter.com/DylanReeve/status/1646039336239136769

Mayor Wayne Brown – exactly what the ‘Super City’ needed !!
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April 13, 2023 8:13am
- Frank the tank
  
  I’m liking Brown more and more every day. Most of what he said made perfect sense to me. Glad I voted for the old coot now.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Trouble is, some extreme left Councilors will take that as gospel and spin out.
  Can’t wait!
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:21am
- kowtow
  
  Speaking of the Horrid , they report that part of Narrow Neck Beach was cordoned off “after an old shell was found on the beach”.
  
  If “old shells” are a reason to close beaches then the authorities are going to be very busy.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:06am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Narrowneck used to be ripe with pipis and cockles. Also other marine life like mussels and crabs. It has been harvested for good. I don’t think a cornered off bit will protect one shell. Was it one live pipi or one half of a shell?
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:19am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Narrow beck beach has never been the same on the late 70s when my heroine addled mate lived their for a few months
      
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      April 13, 2023 12:13pm
      - Matt Long
        
        Heroines have certainly addled a few mates over the years.
        People forget it’s mates before dates or bros before…
        
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        April 13, 2023 3:15pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        What’s the story there with the heroin mate and Narrowneck? What happened? You were breaking up there G.
        
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        April 13, 2023 6:13pm
- alloytoo
  
  I stand with Wayne Brown.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:08am
- Piniwi
  
  Wow MP he really does tell it like it is. Would be good to see a transcript of that long string of one liners. Auckland is in the shit. Who knew?
  
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  April 13, 2023 12:39pm
G152

Reality Check Radio talking sense
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April 13, 2023 8:14am
Simon

Will there be World War 3? Has it started? Who will win or will there be a draw?
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April 13, 2023 8:14am
- Jade Warrior
  
  I hope not Simon. If another global conflict were to break out, it would be only a matter of time before it went nuclear. And then we’re all stuffed.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:23am
- kowtow
  
  Hopefully no one turns up for it.
  
  Cos what it amounts to ,as is nearly always the case , an old man’s dick measuring contest , where other people’s children die.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:24am
- Cassandra
  
  I think it has started, Simon. Everyone is rearming in response to China’s vastly increasing military capacity and Russia’s aggression. Poland the latest in a long list: Japan, Australia, and now NZ starting the process. It’s a great pity but the high cost now will be nothing compared to that when either our lights go out (as the sea lanes close because we have an inadequate navy) or we become a Chinese colony.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:27am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Little Mermaid.

https://babylonbee.com/news/romantic-scene-in-little-mermaid-reboot-will-have-ariel-signing-350-page-consent-form-before-kissing-eric
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April 13, 2023 8:16am
- Frank the tank
  
  Thank god my kids have grown up now. Cartoons and animation has moved a long way away from classics such as Shrek, Cars (the original) and Ice Age.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:22am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Oi! I said not a cartoon type thing are not me, but original Cars is cool.
    Tractor tipping! A lot still don’t get it. Cow tipping, and they still don’t get it.
    City slickers say cow tipping is fake news – but hey, they are not country boys.
    
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    April 13, 2023 2:47pm
- cmm
  
  Isn’t Ariel underage?
  But then paedophilia is just an alternative expression of sexuality.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Underage? Dunno. I don’t watch that sort of shit.
    Little Mermaid just happened to catch my eye on the “bee”
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:17am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      I know you’re up there in years Steve but if you watch the following “cartoon movies” you’ll discover just how brilliant and adult they are:
      
      The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo (You may want to watch the original Toy Story first to set the scene).
      
      Even more than a decade after seeing them, my now adult kids love re-watching them because they now get all the adult storylines and jokes that were so cleverly crafted in by Pixar, and they understand why we parents were laughing.
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:56am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I watch stuff like Overhauling and Gas Monkey Garage in Rush channel.
        Also anything Alaskan. Also anything with Mike Rowe. Yeah, we are going back to Alaska soon. Camera, drone and all.
        Hawaii as a stepping stone for 3 days. Now that we know more we can go to places missed on the last two trips.
        Already have over 20,000 photos, but want more.
        Hawaiian Air and Alaska Airlines. Air NZ to Hawaii is shit.
        
        Cartoon movies are not my thing sorry.
        
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        April 13, 2023 11:28am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Flushed Away
        
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        April 13, 2023 9:01pm
Eugene the Chemist

https://rumble.com/v2gxr4i-silenced-nz.html

Watched it last night
Well made for a budget of $20k
It tells many of us what we already know but what opened my eyes is the offensive the MOH went on to shut down dissenting views – abhorrent behavior. When will “We The People” take these people, Govt Officials, to court and force them to admit to their non-democratic actions.
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April 13, 2023 8:17am
- ClanMcleod
  
  EtC – it is an awesome documentary and should be screened on primetime TV. Of course it won’t. But everyone should take the little time out needed to watch that and judge for themselves.
  
  Were hundreds of thousands of Kiwis truly misled down a rabbit hole of disinformation, driving a wedge through our society during our pandemic response? …or were fair and important points pushed from the public domain? Broadcaster Peter Williams, self-deregistered GP of 40 years Dr Anne O’Reilly and freelance Sociologist Jodie Bruning share their perspectives on how New Zealand’s freedom of speech in media, medicine and academia was impacted by suppression over the last three years.
  
  Until we have these open, honest conversations, this country will be going nowhere.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:58am
- mawm
  
  In Canada there is a “National Citizen’s Inquiry” into the covid response. This is a link to Dr. Laura Braden who has a PhD in cellular and microbiology plus many other qualifications relevant to mRNA/DNA, and commercial production of vaccines, etc. Her presentation is very good with some unsettling details about the “vaccines”.
  
  https://vladtepesblog.com/2023/04/11/dr-laura-braden-at-national-citizens-inquiry/
  
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  April 13, 2023 5:01pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    But – I bet Dr Braden knows nothing about bio phosphorescence
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:06pm
Yvette

What used to be “3 Waters”

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■ Not only does the Maori Advisory Council preside over Taumata Arowai and their Board, but Taumata Arowa presides over the Four Regional Entities, or Ten and all that is now in law, but Maori (only) have access to unbridled Te Mana o te Wai statements – also now in law
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Te Mana o te Wai statements would control “water, land, planning rules and regulations, land use … TMOTW statements will cover every pipe, river, creek, farm pond or fresh water body”

… the statements are very simple and powerful – there are no parameters in the Bill that apply to them. That is entirely intentional and was discussed in the June 2022 Cabinet Paper. Once issued by mana whenua (iwi or hapū), the relevant water service entity is under an obligation to give effect to those statements, including by their inclusion in strategy and planning documentation. There is some public consultation on those documents but not on the Te Mana o te Wai statements themselves.
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/thomas-cranmer-cabinet-loses-grip-of-five-waters

If you are going to drop “3 Waters” and call it “Affordable water infrastructure” – Te Puna, the Maori Advisory Council presiding over Taumata Arowai. Taumata Arowai itself, and Te Mana o te Wai statements are the parts Labour will not utter in public again

But since Tukoroirangi Morgan (” it’s “not sustainable” for Auckland to keep taking more from the Waikato River, “our awa tupuna”) is already appointed “out of his region” of the Four Regional Entity system, having six more regions to staff may prevent inter-tribal warfare :o)

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April 13, 2023 8:18am
Nickc2

So Hipkins is going to make a monumental announcement about the way ahead for 3Waters at 11:00 today.

What do you want from the announcement?

No Co-Governance (uptick)
More Co-Governance (downtick)

Comments welcome.
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April 13, 2023 8:20am
- Cassandra
  
  Green tick from me but actually I’d like them to announce more perks for Maoris. That way Labour is being honest for once and the idiots who poll at 35% for them might come to their senses.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:30am
- Nickc2
  
  Sorry people, Co-Governance remains and it’s business as usual for Mahuta Corp with Willie Jackson joining the Board of Directors.
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:09am
JJ56

For those of you that follow the discrepancies between climate models and observations, Ross McKitrick tweats about a new study from NOAA that confirms the low warming trend derived from the satellite data. https://twitter.com/RossMcKitrick/status/1646208819532382232
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April 13, 2023 8:21am
- kowtow
  
  “Low warming” , so that will be what real scientists call natural variablity.
  
  What’s all the fuss about .
  
  That’s right , control.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:29am
Frank the tank

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/11/bud-light-beer-boycott-batters-brewer-anheuser-busch/

Is this the biggest woke corporate stuff up in history?

Who would have thought middle class males in red states wouldn’t embrace a transgender rich kid…..

P.S. The Kid Rock video is sooooo f*cking funny.
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April 13, 2023 8:25am
- NZer In Exile
  
  I believe the company lost approx 4 billion dollars in sales as a result of that stunt.
  
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  April 13, 2023 6:20pm
Widogast Corwin

Just when you think it can’t get worse… The good ol boys of the USA are melting down. Jack Daniels whisky has teamed up with some drag queens to advertise their product. 😂

https://images.app.goo.gl/8wetRWf1CSPCCdhx8

This follows Budd Light Beer teaming up with a prominent trans YouTuber to promote their beer.

https://youtube.com/shorts/rTtgEfbdme8?feature=share

I guess they want to diversify 🤔 It did not please one bud light fan. He destroyed his considerable stash of beer with a machine gun. 😳
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April 13, 2023 8:25am
- slightlyrighty
  
  To be honest, I have no problem with a man pretending to be a woman advertising Water pretending to be beer….
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:31am
  - kowtow
    
    Haha
    
    Like the old one where the samples got mixed up at the testing lab and the report goes back to the brewery ;
    
    “Both horses have a severe case of diabates”
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:41am
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes, it used to be that people called light beer gay, but apparently it’s trans.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:48am
- Blog-aholic
  
  JD are trying very hard like Busch to destroy their brands. They forget the old 80/20 rule at their peril. That is 80% of your profit comes from 20% of your users.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:36am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Seems they are trying to flavour it for the younger market.
    If I want a girlie drink I would try cheap vodka with fanta.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:24am
- bennerg
  
  Or a clever way to get free advertising from the outraged …..
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Outraged? Surely there can’t be teetotalers on this blog?//
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:25am
- All_on_Red
  
  Anhauser Busch’s Share Cap has dropped $4 Billion because of the Bud Light debacle.
  Go woke, go broke.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:44am
  - kowtow
    
    Apparently sales have fallen in many areas of the US .
    
    We can help too . Stella Artois is one of their brands .
    
    From wiki
    The Company’s brand portfolio includes global brands, such as Budweiser, Corona and Stella Artois; international brands, including Beck’s, Leffe and Hoegaarden,
    
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    April 13, 2023 8:47am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Stella Artois is what I drink. Made in East Tamaki.
      But I have had it in Hawaii and Alaska. Made in Seattle.
      On the Kenai Peninsula there is Homer Spit. The Salty Dawg had it on tap!!
      
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      April 13, 2023 9:28am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Yes I have had it in Hawaii and it’s brewed in Belgium, the give away is it was for sss as Kevin 750 ml bottles
        
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        April 13, 2023 12:15pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @G.
        When I was in Hawaii Stella was brewed in Seattle. You may have been lucky to get Belgium brewed.
        I think there are many breweries around the World doing it, but it still has to be brewed to the Belgium standard.
        75o ml? Never seen that. Have seen it in 600ml cans in Auckland City.
        In Hawaii and Alaska it was always the small 335ml bottles. The Stella on tap was just a bit watery. You know what? It all tasted the same (except the tap beer)
        The brewery place is on the back of the bottle.
        Nice Pilsner Larger
        
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        April 13, 2023 1:16pm
      - mawm
        
        Peroni is a good substitute for Stella. Some might say it is even better!
        
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        April 13, 2023 5:06pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    so the question is, why do it?
    
    Gillette tanked when they went woke with “Toxic Masculinity”
    
    Nike is using Dylan Mulvaney as a spokesperson for Women’s clothing, and has put themselves in the firing line as well.
    
    They’re not reading the room. The Trans Activist movement is imploding.
    
    If I were a company, I would be doing everything to make sure that we did not engage in this sort of promotion, because this will require you to distance yourself from such promotion.
    
    It’s just bad business, and will affect your bottom line, every time…
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:29am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Gillette painted a target on it’s back. I STILL don’t buy Gillette. There is white hot anger out there at the woke fascists fkng over a pretty good civilisation for no good reason. All ready to be unleashed on the next woke company pandering to the unhinged woke fascists. Eat 💩corporate woketards!
      
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      April 13, 2023 6:28pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Switching to Wild Turkey.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I have read about the shooting stuff. One guy used to buy a snack bare every morning from a vending machine in the subway. It failed three days in a row. Third day he shot the machine to pieces. A meltdown.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:56am
  - kowtow
    
    Naked aggression.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:08am
- Local Miller
  
  Budd Light, soon to crash. Reminds me of one of the beer brands in South Africa that rebranded with a light blue and silver theme, hoping to appeal to a wider audience. Within about 3 months the brand was off the market as all their traditional drinkers dropped the brand and not enough new ones came on board to make up for the loss.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:00am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    At Waikiki Beach every evening some road cones got remover to park a Budweiser truck and semi, just for advertising the name plastered right down the side of the tanker. Amazing how many tourists had photos taken with Budweiser as a backdrop.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:32am
  - blue collar
    
    Same with Victoria bitter , crap logo now ditto appletons estate rum .
    The old logos were pure gold , modern ones just plain boring awful . No character .
    
    Why the bell mess with greatness ?
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Now, that Daniels stuff, I drink a lot of it, drag queens or not. Seems they have left “Old Number 7” alone.
  OK, The Devil Makes Three – “Old Number 7” Enjoy all.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_kirriwIc
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:04am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Wido – I haven’t drank a Heineken for 2 years. Ever since the put out their promotional video that gave the message “The night belongs to the vaccinated.”
  
  https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/the-old-are-young-again-heineken-shows-what-vaccinated-people-get-up-to-at-night/
  
  I’m sure I won’t put them out of business, but – principles.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:08am
  - H. Upmann
    
    Yes indeed, principles.
    I have not bought any Colgate-Palmolive product since the days of the Mrs Marsh TV adverts for Colgate toothpaste in the “80s.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:27am
    - oldfella
      
      Yes, HU, but ‘it does get in, Mrs Marsh’. The same way the commercial got stuck in the brains of those of us who were around back then.
      
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      April 13, 2023 11:01am
  - blue collar
    
    Cheers brother clan , Heineken can get stuffed too , wasn’t aware …. I’m still a Schick user after Gillette went woke .
    Principles indeed brother uppy
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:03am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I couldn’t care less about Bud Light as don’t drink it, but I do like Jack Daniels (and Jim Beam). Think I will be sticking to Jim Beam now.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I thing the drags are with the flavoured drinks.
    “Old Number 7” does not seem to have drags.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:39am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Wido – this is funny.
  
  It just got Worse for Anheuser-Busch…..
  
  https://youtu.be/pkJZ4uBE4qY
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:02am
  - Matt Long
    
    I wouldn’t get too excited about the price action with Anheuser-Busch, it has nowhere near hit the 3rd ¼ lows of 2022, with huge companies a drop of billions in market cap is barely meaningful.
    It has retraced some of the big upward move of late March 23, but it’s hardly on the ropes.
    Don’t get me wrong there’s a lot of multinational conglomerates I’d love to see fail and be displaced by local enterprise.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:29am
    - kowtow
      
      We can all help .
      
      One beer at a time.
      
      We know what not to drink.
      
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      April 13, 2023 12:10pm
Yvette

And 4

Mayors on both sides of the Three Waters debate are anxious about today’s promised reset and exactly what changes the government has made to its reform project.
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins and Local Government Minister Kieran McAnulty will
■ this morning announce their updated strategy for improving the management of drinking, waste and stormwater.

Manawatū Mayor Helen Worboys chairs a grouping of councils protesting Labour’s plan and said they had little confidence the government would make sufficient changes to bring them on board

She also hoped the government would ditch the co-governance element whereby the entities were responsible to ■ boards with a 50/50 split of iwi and council representatives.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/three-waters-mayors-on-both-sides-of-debate-anxious-about-government-s-reset.html

■ “boards with a 50/50 split of iwi and council representatives” – I’m afraid Manawatū Mayor Helen Worboys may not appreciate the real crux of the objection should be the “total governance” of the Maori Advisory Council to Taumata Arowai and Taumata Arowa itself along with the unbridled “Maori-only” Mana o te Wai Statements. The “50/50 split of iwi and council representatives” is really at the more minor Regional Entity level, whether four of them or now rumoured ten boards.

■ Chris Hipkins is today likely to try to swing the Great “w3 Waters” Reset, but are Manawatū Mayor Helen Worboys and her followers “caught up to the same page” yet?

Kia kaha! – keep the pointy bit to the front!

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April 13, 2023 8:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yep, in the marine trade there is a sharp end and a blunt end.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:34am
- Nickc2
  
  If there’s an earthquake in the North Island at around 11:00AM today, don’t worry, it’ll just be Nanaia Mahuta stamping her feet as a result of Hipkins’s retreat from 3Waters legislation.
  If you have any shares in Mahuta Corp, sell em! The liquidators are moving in ASAP.
  BTW, that’s not a new Star on the horizon, it’s just Willie Jackson’s Afterburner as he heads for cover and a new Political Party.
  PS: Is Billy TK Jr still recruiting for his Political Party?
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:48am
  - Sofia
    
    Nickc2
    Compare Nanaia Mahuta’s reaction to that of Tuku Morgan, appointed Chair the Entity A, Auckland / Northland Maori Board, but that may schism into more new Entities, as it has been indicated there may be now Ten Entities.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:09am
    - Nickc2
      
      Tuku Morgan’s not one to sit on his hands when there’s free money and more power in the offing eh?
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:57am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Tukuroirangi Morgan is one of the ‘higher ups’ in the Elite Maori Coup – happening now.
        
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        April 13, 2023 11:43am
  - Nickc2
    
    Oops, no Earthquake, just a slight movement of the Tectonic Plates.
    PS: Willie Jackson has rejoined his class at the University of Akld where it’s rumoured he’s to receive the award for speaking Te Reo BS.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:15am
cas

Michael Wood says Waka Kotahi has spent billions fixing potholes.

Well some on the State Highway here have been fixed recently and the results are worse than the potholes. Perhaps it’s an underhand method to keep the speed limit down but the newly filled potholes are uneven, overfull and locals are calling them speed bumps and asking for sick bags to be given out. Accidents just waiting to happen as you can’t keep straight on the road as you are going over them. I tried yesterday.

But as long as we’ve fixed them that’s all right then.
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April 13, 2023 8:27am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Didn’t Waka Koathanger do that at Dome Valley? Sealed a band aid strip and it pealed off in two days?
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:36am
- ClanMcleod
  
  cas – what time frame was he referring to when he said they had spent billions fixing them, the last 100 years? I’m presuming he adjusted for inflation too.
  
  Discombobulation at work.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:04am
Warren

This Government have their priorities in the wrong places with people who have been given eight weeks to live and then advised it will take twelve weeks to get a appointment with a cancer specialist.
But while many people have been trying to get appointments to specialists we have the new Maori Health Authority spending New Zealand Taxpayers funds of over one million dollars a month on Consultants and Contractors.
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April 13, 2023 8:27am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That was absolute shit from the Health Board. Imagine being told that?
  ‘You are going to die – sorry’
  I am having cubital tunnel surgery in 10 days. I would gladly give up my spot if a life could be saved by cancer surgery. MOH is nor at the point of not even caring. Thankyou Jaspinda for destroying out Heath Service.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:40am
Maggie Pie

There goes the Neighborhood 🙁 🙁 🙁

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1646202170239512576
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April 13, 2023 8:29am
In Vino Veritas

Elon Musk v BBC.
BBC: I have seen hate speech increase on Twitter
Musk: give me an example
BBC: I can’t
Musk: you are lying.

Game, set and match, Musk. Go find it on you tube. It’s hilarious. Never send a dude with small intellect to interview one of the more intelligent people on the planet. Else you end up with a train wreck interview like that.
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April 13, 2023 8:34am
- graham
  
  This is what our fearless and intrepid reporters here in New Zealand *should* be doing when somebody throws out a statement with absolutely no evidence. Example:
  
  Michael Wood: “I find many of Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull’s views (Posie Parker) repugnant, and am concerned by the way in which she courts some of the most vile people and groups around, including white supremacists.”
  
  Reporter: “Very admirable, Minister. Could you just expand on that – which of her views specifically do you find repugnant; and which white supremacist groups has she been cozying up to?”
  
  Michael Wood: “… ah … umm … sorry, I wasn’t expecting that question …”
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:39am
  - Swifty
    
    Exactly graham.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Unscripted question with an unscripted answer.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:45am
  - hullkiwi
    
    graham, not only Michael Wood, you can add in Deborah Coddington, ex Act MP turned lazy journalist. This example of our MSM draws a long bow paralleling Alan Turring as a victim who fought for free speech so that the “dangerous Posie Parker” can express her hatred.
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300838775/posie-parker-and-the-battle-of-the-atlantic
    
    Proof if ever it was needed, that ignorance, laziness, and being ill informed in NZ is a common problem, particularly when they are paid to spread disinformation.
    
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    April 13, 2023 1:56pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  IVV – here’s the short form video in all it’s glory. Wonderful stuff.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVUFgmQHOds
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Musk had him by the short and curly. At one stage Clayton was speechless. He was checkmated.
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:46am
Yvette

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This is what you call a convoy
Kia kaha! – so to speak

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Thank you to Kiwiblog host David Farrar
who may not agree with the above
but kindly provides the forum to do it
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April 13, 2023 8:37am
- Sofia
  
  Yvette: “This is what you call a convoy”
  
  Nice one, Yvette. Will you now camp for three weeks in Kiwiblog General Debate while Mallard Duck belts up the sound system around you, and turns the sprinklers on, until finally the Police throw you out after you set fire to everything, and They, and the lap-dog media, will say you were influenced by American MAGA maniacs, you dreaded “River of Filth” you?
  The way you convoy your point – may it always be sharp!
  Using your emojo :o)
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:34am
pdm

I thought that Environment Report released yesterday was fairly positive for the cleanliness of New Zealand’s rivers with 55% swimmable.

Mind you never heard that in any reports as focus was on the other 45%.
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April 13, 2023 8:37am
- bennerg
  
  How many people actually swim in rivers these days?
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:44am
  - Local Miller
    
    And how many rivers are practical for swimming in?
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I learnt to swim in the Waikato River.
    Would not now.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:48am
    - JohnRidd
      
      I wouldn’t be sure about that Steve. I spent a bit of time in the 1970s in and on the Waikato River, skiing,rafting, canoeing, and duck shooting. These days I just walk along the banks but I am fairly sure the quality has improved. Back then every factory , every town and every farm put the waste water straight into the river.
      
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      April 13, 2023 5:03pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Up until last year my 81 year-old swimming bud was swimming in the Waimata River, Gisborne.
    
    I couldn’t believe it and told her (ordered her) to come swimming with me at the Olympic Pool…
    After her car got stolen whilst she was swimming in the river, she relented.
    
    Whilst at the pool we met another mad woman river swimmer in her late 70s… She said she’d been swimming in the Waimata for over 50 years and only comes to the pool when the river is in flood or running thick brown in colour after heavy rain.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:42am
- I remember when
  
  Not a lot of focus on how often or how long the 45% applies.
  Or the ‘red tape’ that has resulted in the cancellation or deferral of schemes like “One Plan.’
  Add to that the fact the report is out of date already.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:41am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Imagine how many more drownings there would be if we could all swim in them.
  River to zero anyone?
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:50am
  - blue collar
    
    😅 gold brother fret ,
    I’ve always questioned the stat that you’re more likely to die of a lightning strike than a shark attack ….
    I’m sure if 5 billion people spent 12 hours a day in the ocean the stats would be different .
    Everyone is susceptible to lightning strike , only ocean users to shark attack , and ocean users spend bigger all time in the ocean .
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I would think less drownings if people could actually swim.
    Say a boat overturns with an idiot skipper in a large wake. How many could actually swim? How many would fight the tide? Panic causes drownings.
    I am amazed that even just in Auckland people just can’t swim. We are surrounded by water!
    Easy to say when I have been boating, fishing, and swimming in this Hauraki Gulf for 50 years.
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:58am
- Paulus
  
  How many rivers are tested ? – only those the experts want to to provide some reaction.
  Results too narrow.
  
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  April 13, 2023 1:44pm
Jade Warrior

“Affordable Water Reform”?

Is that really the best this lot could do in coming up with an alternative name to Three Waters?

Good grief. 🙄
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April 13, 2023 8:41am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Maybe “Progressive Affordable Water Reform”? 🙂
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:19am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Comprehensive Progressive Affordable Water Reform?
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:56am
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      Missed opportunity to call it “Free Waters”
      
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      April 13, 2023 2:26pm
  - Ghost
    
    Theft Water
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:58am
- I remember when
  
  Did they say ” A fordable water reform”?
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:32am
  - Yvette
    
    “A fordable …” Yep! – it surely is that shallow
    
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    April 13, 2023 1:00pm
- Sofia
  
  Jade Warrior
  Mahi Tahi was unbelievably great – short, and rhymed – I could not believe slogan-wise that the “co-governance” meaning – “to work together as one” – could be encapsulated so simply or spin-doctored so elegantly.
  
  But when it first was mentioned and Hipkins said he “loved” it – he, how you say, “jumped the shark” already. Now, unless it can be revived – it is lost – and the flounder moves on from the water it has muddied Big bugger! :o)
  Now, with the Reset, is when Mahi Tahi should have been introduced. What a missed opportunity, Hipkins! What a maroon!
  
  But I guess they may have had trouble with the Scouts, as that apparently it is their motto
  Mahi Tahi – to work together as one
  And Victoria Uni has some claim over it
  As well as Mid Central Health Board
  
  But they also push –
  Kia aho matuahia te taketake, kia tūwaerea te tau
  When intuition replaces intellect, knowledge turns to wisdom
  Which is likely where they get most of their ER admissions from
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:55am
- kevn
  
  @Jade…. ‘They’ must think NZer’s are stupid.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:19am
  - cmm
    
    They know Nzers are stupid.
    They have tried to find the boundary for how far you can push an Aotearoan and they have not found it yet.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:53am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Govt did the same with Covid. Pushing all of the rules and lockdowns until we started squealing and rebelling. This is the socialist way, bullying until you submit or fight back.
      
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      April 13, 2023 12:04pm
- cmm
  
  It probably took a focus group and $100k of consulting fees to come up with that slogan.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:51am
  - blue collar
    
    It’s a PSY-OPS campaign .
    Convince kiwis to roll with this or water will cost more .
    It’s bullshit .
    The moment it’s out of council and ratepayer control we will be screwed .
    
    But …. 3 waters is an election loser and they are trying to re shape it in voters minds that it’s not bad , it’s good
    
    Think 3 waters …. Word association…. affordable water .
    
    Pure psy-ops
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:17am
- Paulus
  
  It’s being retranslated currently and you will be told its real new name tomorrow along with how many staff are still there.
  
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  April 13, 2023 1:46pm
Matt Long

New Zealand has three classes of people; helpless victims, helpless onlookers, both of these types disempowered by policy settings, a lack of training and fear of legal consequences, versus criminal thugs that act without fear of consequences and the criminals that empower them.
Suppression of free speech and breakdown of civil order do not bode well for society.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/gas-tikipunga-robbed-for-second-time-this-year-may-stop-tobacco-sales/WLVENICNHBG7ND35C5ZCR76Q7M/
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April 13, 2023 8:43am
Rusty

In my view what is not mentioned in the critical report on Wayne Brown and the council’s response to the bad weather event in late January is NIWA.

What accurate weather reports did they give to the council and the people of Auckland prior to the rain deluge?

I don’t recall any severe rain warnings coming from them.
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April 13, 2023 8:45am
- MCōs
  
  I do
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:54am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    What do you think this is Cossie…..MAFS ?
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The events of Friday 27 January were largely unexpected, with only orange rain warnings having been issued before the beginning of the event.[40] On the evening of 27 January MetService upgraded the orange rain warning in Auckland to a red rain warning, the highest level of warning available, while the city was already flooding.[40]
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Auckland_Anniversary_Weekend_floods
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:50am
  - Rusty
    
    @Maggie, Met Service is what I was thinking not NIWA. Thanks
    
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    April 13, 2023 1:06pm
- crikey
  
  Rusty: Was Phil Goff and his councils mentioned or their role in lack of preparation and preparedness for severe weather events?
  
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  April 13, 2023 4:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Play school TV1 breakfast. Yeah I know, but the speaker of the hose insists. Keep the queen bee happy and the whole hive is happy.

Anyway they are going on about earthquakes and tornados., and how to protect yourself. Apparently some people can’t tell the difference between an earthquake and a tornado. Jesus! Both make the house shake, but if people would just look out the fucking window they would see that a tornado blows shit all over the place. Earthquakes don’t do that very often.
Have we really been dumbed down this much? Do we need a lecture from an ‘expert’ being interviewed to tell us to drop, cover and hold?
Why can’t we decide for ourselves? It is not that hard to understand.
Tornados blow, earthquakes don’t. Remember this for your next anxiety attack!
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April 13, 2023 8:48am
- Jade Warrior
  
  It always amuses me how every nightly bulletin on One News includes a promo for their breakfast show the following morning: “And for an in depth analysis of issue x, you can tune into Breakfast tomorrow morning”.
  
  Yeah right. Given the airheads that host Breakfast, they are the last people I’d turn to for an in depth discussion or analysis about anything.
  
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  April 13, 2023 8:57am
  - graham
    
    Agreed, but I imagine they have to do it to try and promote their program against TV3’s offering.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:41am
  - cmm
    
    But after decades, they are still there and still offering their opinions.
    
    So from that I assume there are plenty of people who listen to and absorb their opinions.
    
    A bit like the people who think Oprah (no I can’t be bothered looking up the spelling) is the wisest person out there.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:40am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I thought Whoopie Goldberg was the wisest out there.//
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:52am
  - Martonman
    
    Agree entirely. Better things to do at breakfast time than watch those children. They would spoil even Bacon and Eggs.
    
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    April 13, 2023 2:35pm
Grunter

The latest Substack post from Seymour Hersh outlines the corruption in Ukraine and the US$100 millions that the evil Zelenshyy and his cronies are embezzling. And he wonders why he is running out of ammo!

https://open.substack.com/pub/seymourhersh/p/trading-with-the-enemy?r=7myba&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
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April 13, 2023 8:49am
- Matt Long
  
  No wonder Zelinski is so popular with people like Biden and Pelosi who appear to have done wonderfully well off public office.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:41am
- nathie
  
  Wouldn’t be surprised if Seymour Hersh’s sources has it wrong again.
  
  Just like when he alleged “his sources” told him the US blew up the Nordstream pipelines.
  
  https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:13am
  - cmm
    
    I really do think Hersh has his head up his arse about his Nordstream theory (eg. that it takes specially trained US divers and only the USA could have pulled it off).
    
    This is ridiculous. 60 metres deep in the Baltic, a few km offshore. A couple of guys from an amateur dive club could have pulled it off. All the Baltic nations have highly trained naval divers (trained by British Navy divers) who could have easily done it too.
    
    But holes in his theory or not, USA and Poland probably have the most to gain out of this. Whether they did it themselves or paid some Estonians $10k to do it is pretty much irrelevant.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:49am
  - Che Guava
    
    The details can be argued over, but I think the principle is perfectly sound and logical. I wonder what your alternative explanation is, given that the US has the most resources to pull it off, as well as the most to gain geostrategically and economically by preventing any strong relationship developing between Germany and Russia.
    
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    April 13, 2023 12:34pm
    - Mike
      
      Thank you for the St Petersburg perspective.
      
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      April 13, 2023 12:49pm
      - Che Guava
        
        Lame. Try harder.
        
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        April 13, 2023 1:09pm
    - cmm
      
      Guava
      
      As I wrote above they definitely have the motivation, but “resources” is not a problem.
      
      There are literally hundred of divers in NZ that could have pulled it off. It is well within the capabilities of a couple of week end divers.
      
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      April 13, 2023 3:34pm
      - info@cruzpro.com
        
        Absolutely true!
        
        I often see tech divers at the Poor Nights Islands dive to 80M.
        
        If your country was being invaded by Russia wouldn’t you do the easy things to hurt the invaders? For Ukraine that would be to cut income for Russia by blowing up the Nordstream pipelines.
        
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        April 13, 2023 7:33pm
cmm

Affordable Water Reform.

OK, they’ve said it’s affordable so I’m going to stop worrying.

FFS, yes, we ARE that stupid. We will believe them.
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April 13, 2023 8:51am
- Swifty
  
  The big lie.
  
  I confidently predict the total cost of ownership of our water infrastructure will significantly increase even allowing for additional infrastructure works as a result of 3 Waters.
  
  And potential saving resulting from economies of scale will be destroyed by the cost of additional bureaucratic overhead and the cost of additional complexity and effort required to get works consented, stakeholder approval and resultant delay or denial of economic benefits.
  
  We think it’ll be a rapacious monster on Day 1? Just think what it will be 10, 20 years down the track as successive governments have enlarged its scope and reach – as they ALWAYS do…….
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:01am
- Its only I
  
  “We will believe them.”
  
  A rhetorical question…sadly.
  
  Even with a softened title there is plenty of room for National/Act to climb into this shyt Labour party and do it in a way Labours mentally munted supporters will understand.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:07am
  - cmm
    
    They only lie because they get away with it.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:31am
- Ruawai
  
  Are they using the Te Pukanga Polytech model of centralisation to save money??? or the Auckland Supercity model, equally as wasteful!
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:58am
Maggie Pie

And what about this silly bitch? 😀

Scroll down to watch Hosk’s reaction…..

https://twitter.com/char_kiwi/status/1645917554433748992
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April 13, 2023 8:55am
- Lance
  
  Good grief, I actually read some of those comments (for the first time). Twitter appears to be a ‘river of stupid’
  It makes Breakfast TV presenters look mature and intellectual.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:03am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Shame it doesn’t make them look ‘straight’ 😛
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:23am
    - Ruawai
      
      Would love to meet Heather and Jerry.
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:01am
  - Gravelroad
    
    We have so many people who are weak, fearful, self absorbed and ruled by emotion.
    They want to be looked after. Don’t want to hear mean things said on the wireless, especially about their Princess. Don’t want any risks to their cosy lives.
    And then there is the rest of us – working like hell under significant pressure to produce export income and provide food for the supermarkets.
    Turn on the radio and listen to Hosking and his Missus – the only ones telling it like it really is.
    But, look, if it makes you feel safer, cancel them.
    Go back and sit in your lazy boy chair, turn on the heater and put another teddy in the window.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:36am
    - graham
      
      Pfft. “Cancel them”? These people can try, but there is absolutely no way they will succeed. Mike Hosking’s program has been the highest rating breakfast radio show for years – there’s no way he will get dumped or cancelled.
      
      Perhaps these two people should take a few minutes to think WHY so many people listen to Mike Hosking (and Kate Hawkesby).
      
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      April 13, 2023 9:55am
- Bobba Fret
  
  And here’s another stupid person who is too dumb to own a car. Don’t forget, these people are still allowed to vote!
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/131748472/woman-demands-refund-for-broken-car-after-ignoring-warning-lights-for-14-months
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:25am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Sean Plunkett appologises. I too shared this story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_kirriwIc
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April 13, 2023 9:00am
- Matt Long
  
  JA wants the story corrected, in fact various speaker groups will pay her hundreds of thousands NOT to speak at seminars they’re involved with.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is just plain sad.//
    
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    April 13, 2023 2:55pm
MCōs

88yrs since the death of FDR
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/fdrdeath.htm
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April 13, 2023 9:12am
- Maggie Pie
  
  What an amazing coincidence!
  My partner was saying that’s exactly the same as Hitler.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:21am
  - I remember when
    
    Hell!
    Or something very similar.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:24am
  - MCōs
    
    Hitler died on 30-April 1945. When he heard FDR had died he thought the tide of the war would turn in his favour
    Chap was in for a surprise.
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:39am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      A little joke for you Cossie…
      
      Why didn’t Eva Braun like giving Hitler blowjobs?
      Because he left a Nazi taste in her mouth.
      
      LOL!!
      
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      April 13, 2023 9:48am
    - cmm
      
      The chap was on a cocktail of drugs. I doubt he was capable of surprise.
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:38am
  - Rusty
    
    @Maggie- and Hitler shared the same birth date and year with Charlie Chaplin.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:03am
    - Jack5
      
      You need only 23 people in a group to have a 50 per cent chance that two of them have the same birthday.
      
      Once a group size reaches 57, the probability of at least two members sharing the same birthday is 0.99.
      
      https://statisticsbyjim.com/fun/birthday-problem/
      
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      April 13, 2023 10:53am
      - Matt Long
        
        The same year is a little different, hard to figure the odds as most groups are not random according to age.
        
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        April 13, 2023 12:32pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘A terse paragraph in the Irish national dailies on 3 May 1945 started the avalanche of international protest. Under the heading ‘People and Places’, the Fianna Fáil-backed Irish Press reported laconically that the Taoiseach and Minister for External Affairs, Éamon de Valera, accompanied by the Secretary of External Affairs, Joseph Walshe, ‘called on Dr Hempel, the German minister, last evening, to express his condolences’. The condolences were for Hitler who had committed suicide on 30 April. ‘
    
    https://www.historyireland.com/de-valera-hitler-the-visit-of-condolence-may-1945/
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:42am
- crikey
  
  MCōs: 88 years? Not so. FDR died in 1945. Try 78.
  
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  April 13, 2023 4:17pm
- gravedodger
  
  Check your maths Mr MCos I am 80 years old and I clearly remember Mr Truman and “The Buck Stops Here”, poor bugger did not even know he was to inherit the Bomb.
  On being told by FDR’s widow The President was dead he offered his condolences and sorrow to Ellenor only to have her say “It is you I feel sorry for, Harry”.
  
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  April 13, 2023 4:24pm
I remember when

Hector’s dolphin: DOC Newsletter.
Also called tutumairekurai (Special ocean dweller), pahu (bang or boom), and tupoupou (to bow frequently), Hector’s dolphins have more names in Te Reo Maori than any other whale or dolphin species.
A taonga species, they are linked to tangata whenua through whakapapa.

Should we just use their Maori name?
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April 13, 2023 9:20am
- cmm
  
  Previously also known as kai, but now it is more profitable to use them as a guilt mechanism.
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:26am
  - kowtow
    
    I find it rather hilarious reading archeological reports of the bones of every species found in middens of birds etc that are now claimed by the regime on behalf of Maoris to be treasures .
    
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    April 13, 2023 9:35am
    - Jack5
      
      We have two languages in NZ: one spoken by 99.5 per cent of the population, and the other spoken by less than 8 per cent.
      
      When writing or speaking in English, the logical practice is to use English names as nouns, and when writing or speaking in Maori to use Maori names.
      
      The current problem in NZ is that the Woke and the State-owned and State-subsidised news media, and the bureaucracy, are trying to force use of Maori names within English.
      
      The result is that the media and the bureaucracy are creating an NZ Pidgin as our main language.
      
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      April 13, 2023 11:07am
      - crikey
        
        Jack5: I am culturally offended by this bastardisation of the English language.
        
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        April 13, 2023 4:19pm
      - Jack5
        
        Kowtow’s … the bones of every species found in middens of birds etc that are now claimed by the regime on behalf of Maori…
        
        Who owns any surviving bones of non-Maori consumed by Maori, such as the remains of some of von Tempsky’s men?
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_von_Tempsky
        
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        April 13, 2023 7:07pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Yup kowtow, they were treasures because they were food. There were only birds and fish for them to eat. After all, Maori had a hand in makin extinct the following:
      Giant Moa
      Eastern Moa
      Broad billed Moa
      Heavy Footed Moa
      Mantell’s Moa
      Crested Moa
      Chatham Duck
      Musk Duck
      Finsch’s Duck
      South and North Island Goose
      Chatham Islands Swan
      New Zealand Swan
      Scarlett’s Duck
      Chatham Island Merganser
      NZ Stiff Tailed Duck
      Chatham Islands Shelduck
      Raoul Island Pigeon
      South Island Adzebill
      North Island Adzebill
      Chatham Coot
      North Island Takahe
      Hodgens Waterhen
      Imbers Petrel
      Scarletts Shearwater
      Chatham Penguin
      Dwarf Yellow Eyed Penguin
      Waitaha Penguin
      Kohatu Shag
      Eyles Harrier
      Haast Eagle
      Chatham Kaka
      North Island Stout Legged Wren
      Long Billed Wren
      New Zealand Raven
      Chatham Raven
      
      Maori, guardians of NZ land and sea and the creatures on and in it. Yeah, right, go tell that oral history to those birds.
      
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      April 13, 2023 11:31am
- Blog-aholic
  
  I could be rude and say yes, why not but only if it could be spelt by pre colonial Maori……..otherwise maybe not?
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:28am
- Ghost
  
  linked to tangata whenua through whakapapa
  
  Ok, who got drunk and slept with the dolphin
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I will just read/listen to English and plead ignorance and ask them to explain.
  After all, would anyone explain to a Russian using interjected Spanish?
  
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  April 13, 2023 12:20pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Are Maori and human-dolphin hybrid?
  How can they be ‘connected through whakapapa?’.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:48pm
MCōs

Not surprising Trump didn’t want cameras in the court.
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-tale-of-crying-manhattan-court-employees-was-absolute-bs-law-enforcement-source-says-160349195.html
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April 13, 2023 9:30am
- CRM114
  
  Oh boy, you’re ass is about to get down ticked out of existence. How dare you call into question the words of the greatest President that ever lived.//
  
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  April 13, 2023 9:38am
  - CRM114
    
    I’m embarrassed, I used ‘you’re’ instead of ‘your’.
    That explains the downticks, but poor grammar should deserve no less.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:54am
- virtualmark
  
  The only video footage we got of Trump interacting with Court staff was the Court bailiff allowing the door to swing shut in Trump’s face.
  
  As a general observation, New Yorkers dislike Trump more than most. If the Court staff were crying it’s possible those were tears of joy.
  
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  April 13, 2023 1:27pm
Maggie Pie

Had to larf the other day 😀
Overheard one of the guys at Tennis say…. “when you look around the club carpark on Ladies Day, you wouldn’t think the girls were penisless”

LOL!!
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April 13, 2023 9:39am
I remember when

Panel looks to alleviate energy hardship: Kapi-Mana News.
The Energy Hardship Expert Panel is looking for feedback on how to alleviate energy hardship.
Almost 20% of households can’t afford to heat their homes, rising to 37% for the lowest income bracket.
The five-person panel has spent months carrying out research, holding workshops and talking with New Zealanders. (Actually hey were having korero – but let’s not get sidetracked.)
Online submission forms at mbie.govt.nz/ehep-have-your-say – closing date April 28.

This is a worldwide problem at present, but I often wonder about the other 80% and 63%, do they have the answer?
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April 13, 2023 9:55am
- kowtow
  
  I thought the planet was burning up and we don’t need more heating.
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:27am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Elon Musk ties BBC Reporter James Clayton in knots. Has him speechless about hateful content on Twitter. Musk is very very clever.

https://valiantnews.com/2023/04/bbc-journo-quits-musk-interview-after-elon-pushes-back-on-hateful-content-misinformation/
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April 13, 2023 10:18am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Either that or Clayton is a twit?
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The latter I think.
    Clayton did not really say much, he was speechless.
    
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    April 13, 2023 12:27pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    He’s no Andrew Neil, that’s for sure.
    
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    April 13, 2023 2:39pm
Maggie Pie

When I read this it reminded of someone here who lives on the North Shore 😀

WORLDS SHORTEST FAIRYTALE…..

Once upon a time, a guy asked a gal “will you marry me?”. The gal said “NO”. And he lived happily ever after.
He rode motorcycles, took his boat out fishing every week, played lots of golf, drank lots of bourbon and beers, had loads of money in the bank, left the toilet seat up, and farted whenever he wanted.

THE END.
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April 13, 2023 10:21am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I don’t play golf.
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:36am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    “Five Out Of Six Ain’t Bad”.
    
    – Meatloaf.
    
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    April 13, 2023 10:43am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Soy boys. I knew there was something happening.

https://valiantnews.com/2023/04/soy-consumption-linked-to-low-sperm-count-in-new-study/
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April 13, 2023 10:28am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Soy milkey 😀
  
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  April 13, 2023 10:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ouch
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:04am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Having said ‘ouch’ meaning no breeding, I defend Mike a we bit. Mike is intelligent, has History well learnt (not from Google)
      Just a pity he has these negative trolling benders.
      So there you go Mike, I put in a plug for you!
      
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      April 13, 2023 3:03pm
- david
  
  Oestrogen in Soy has been known for thirty or forty years.
  But then only an idiot would milk a soyabean.
  
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  April 13, 2023 1:52pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Idiots design machines that milk a soy bean…..
    
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    April 13, 2023 3:04pm
  - Dougal10
    
    Chickens and pigs are also fed a lot of soy now days , this may also become a problem
    
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    April 13, 2023 3:07pm
Widogast Corwin

“Women who won’t stand with Riley Gaines are ‘absolute cowards'”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XTU7L7OPF0

It is only a matter of time before one these women, who are speaking for the rights of women, is seriously injured or killed by a trans mob.

In this case, Riley Gaines was speaking up about biological men participating in women’s sports – at San Francisco State University. After the riot, the University issued a statement praising the ‘bravery’ of the protestors and offering them counselling if they had been traumatised.
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April 13, 2023 10:47am
I remember when

Ngati Toa buys pensioner flats: Kapi-Mana News.
Porirua pensioner flats ownership has moved from the city council to local iwi Ngati Toa Rangitira’s community housing arm, Te Ahuru Mowai.
Porirua council agreed to sell the 26 social housing units in Titahi Bay in 2021.
Te Ahuru Mowai take over the flats on May 1.
All tenants will keep their homes.
Te Ahuru Mowai currently owns 924 homes in western Porirua.
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April 13, 2023 10:47am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Won’t be long then, before Ngati Toa have their hands out to either or both of the Council or Government wanting more funding as then properties will become unliveable hovels.
  
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  April 13, 2023 2:41pm
MCōs

Joe Biden confuses the All Blacks with the Black & Tans.
Fortunately Trevor Mallard was elsewhere at the time.
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April 13, 2023 10:48am
- Ghost
  
  To be fair to Joe it got blacks right, so a good day for him
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:03am
  - Jack5
    
    The Biden gaffe MCos is talking about:
    
    https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/president-joe-biden-leaves-people-29696618
    
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    April 13, 2023 11:31am
  - kowtow
    
    He’s always in trouble with that colour.
    
    ‘If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black’.
    
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    April 13, 2023 2:00pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s as if the moron goes out of his way to alienate Unionists.
  
  As a matter of interest the so called Black and Tans were police men and part of the anti terrorist efforts by the British govt.
  
  Interesting to see Creepy Joe backs terrorism against the lawfully constituted police.
  
  Esp while he pretends to “promote” peace there. Idiot.Plastic Paddy.
  
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  April 13, 2023 11:50am
  - Mike
    
    It must be nice to look at the past with those rose-colored glasses. The black and tans and the other irregulars were part of the UK’s (failed) attempt to suppress Irish independence by applying methods that even the British army shrank from.
    Just because you and your ilk want to continue the legacy of British rule over Ireland doesn’t mean that the majority of Irish should not be allowed to continue on the path to peaceful unity. Pretending that only the republicans were responsible for war and terrorism might make you feel better, but don’t imagine that it fools many people.
    
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    April 13, 2023 12:57pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Lol mike, as usual you only provide part of the story. Obviously, to make you feel better and fool yourself. For the record, the IRA were attacking Royal Irish Constabulary barracks and ambushing their patrols as early as 1919. The Black and Tans were recruited in the UK, mainly from unemployed ex service men to bolster the falling numbers of the RIC. The IRA had no compunction hiding behind civilians, so the RIC responded. Firstly by burning houses and businesses, then by killing civilians. Each attack by the Black and Tans was in response to IRA attacks. Were they brutal and did they kill civilians? Yes and yes. Should they have? in those days, that was probably their only option. Were their actions reprisals for terrorist attacks on them by IRA? You bet. If you don’t understand their reaction, you have rocks in your head.
      
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      April 13, 2023 2:55pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        I have to support Mike here. The Black & Tans were mainly criminals, released from prison & given the black & tan uniform, and let loose on the Irish civilians with a promise of commuting of their conviction -A friend of mine narrated the story of how his grandparents were machined-gunned by them.
        My grandfather was a Cornishman who knew all about the Black & Tans – the biggest insult he could give someone was to call them a Black & Tan.
        Obviously dis-information didn’t start with Covid.//
        
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        April 13, 2023 4:43pm
      - Mike
        
        It’s you and kowtow refusing to look at Irish history in amything other than sectarian terms. I know people like to take a simplistic view, but you can’t turn everything into goodies and baddies.
        
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        April 13, 2023 4:44pm
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Sorry Don, but from History Ireland https://www.historyireland.com/who-were-the-black-and-tans/
        “An RIC constable who staffed the London office recalled that ‘a canard has been put about that we recruited criminals deliberately . . . We had a police report on every candidate and accepted no man whose army character was assessed at less than “good”’.
        So mainly criminals? I’d say not.
        
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        April 13, 2023 4:52pm
      - Mike
        
        Correct. They could have no criminal record, but were generally unskilled, unemploed ex-soldiers who were poorly trained and soon gained a reputation for ill discipline and unckntolled violence.
        
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        April 13, 2023 5:07pm
      - kowtow
        
        DB
        
        The “they were released from prison” is one of the most enduring myths that has been perpetrated , along with many others with that era of Irish republican terror.
        
        This may help.
        
        https://www.theirishstory.com/2021/08/20/book-review-the-black-and-tans-a-complete-alphabetical-list-short-history-and-genealogical-guide/#.ZDeeZ3ZBwjM
        
        It is a review of a book by a retired Irish republic police man who is an expert in the field .
        
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        April 13, 2023 6:25pm
ClanMcleod

The husband of a BBC presenter who died from ‘vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia’ after having the “vaccine” is suing the company who made it. He is suing on behalf of 75 others as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11959425/Widower-BBC-presenter-died-jab-no-alternative-file-suit-against-AstraZeneca.html

Her husband, Gareth Eve, reportedly spent two years trying to get the Government, MPs and three prime ministers to address what happened to Lisa and now feels he has ‘no alternative’ but to pursue legal action.

Similarly in NZ, our MPs are too cowardly to even acknowledge that there have been deaths and injuries with this experiment. Nor will they acknowledge the abuses of human rights imposed to bully people to take part in this sham.

Mr Eve, who is vaccinated himself, says the lawsuit is not about ‘whether somebody is anti-vax’ but about those who lost loved ones and have been ‘made to feel like it’s a dirty secret’.

Indeed, it seems to be a ‘dirty secret’ in NZ.

121 cowards in parliament keep their fingers in their ears and loudly shout ‘lalalalalalala’ in unison.

It won’t go away until it is acknowledged and addressed. The longer our ‘representatives’ refuse to represent, the harder the process will be.

Dr John Campbell speaks about the case, and in particular, the shameful act of MPs in the House walking out when MP Andrew Bridgen rose to speak on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRiOMeEVsmE&t=332s

To paraphrase the widower of the woman who died:

“If the government or the vaccine company won’t engage with us, what are we to do? Some sort of acknowledgment or recognition that these deaths have occurred.”

Indeed. The silence is deafening.
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April 13, 2023 11:10am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/practical-things-you-can-do-where-you-live-to-stop-co-governance/
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April 13, 2023 11:10am
blue collar

BEWARE NATIONAL.
Labours strength last election was necessarily Cindy saved us .
It was labours bribing of the blue collar worker .
And female emotional voters . Which won’t count this time chippy bring a ….. well he’s not sure is he ?
Anyway , they gave the bottom of the pyramid ( more blue collar than white collar/ owners etc ) an extra 5 days sick leave , it being 10 now . They also promised an extra public holiday . That brought in a lot of votes .

Labour are at it again with beneficiaries , gangs , Māori , but so far hvnt bribed the essential blue collar vote .

Get in first nats . The tax bracket lifting would be great but needs to spelt out in simple terms .
Labour hv been lifting minimum wage which could gain traction in that category . Vote for them , might get another pay rise mentality .

I still think it will be a landslide but national need to fight smart and take the oxygen out of them .
Get the blue collar vote , the rest will take care of itself , champagne socialists be damned
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April 13, 2023 11:30am
Maggie's partner

Must have been tough for Chippy just now, standing behind Kieran McAnulty, who is so much more of everything Chippy isn’t, but would like to be.
If Labour Lose, I predict McAnulty within 3 months as leader
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April 13, 2023 11:47am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  If he’s going to be leader he needs to ditch the clownish dress sense.
  
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  April 13, 2023 12:09pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Another bully boy then MP? Labour will not have learned anything from the epic failure of wee Angry Andy. But I guess when the pool of talent has the intellectual firepower of a tub of amoebic goo, if you can even lick the table, you are the person for the job.
  
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  April 13, 2023 2:58pm
Bob

3 WATERS, now 10 WATERS…..
seems that the Mahuta family still control the government; NOW they have 7 more chairmanships for the family.
The trough has become a lot wider, and probably deeper.
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April 13, 2023 11:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Contractors are now installing another 3000 teats, to stop them fighting.
  
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  April 13, 2023 12:32pm
Yvette

“New Zealanders aren’t stupid. Whatever way Hipkins tries to spin it, whatever he changes the name to, if the policy still expropriates ratepayer assets and divides New Zealanders by ancestry through co-government then Kiwis won’t have a bar of it.”
– ACT Party local government spokesperson Simon Court

“I actually think Nanaia bore the brunt of that [debate]. It was very unfair. It became very personalised to her.”
Hipkins said it was one of the reasons he took the Local Government portfolio off Mahuta in his first Cabinet reshuffle. “I wasn’t willing to allow that to continue… I think she deserved better than that.”

He added many people who oppose Three Waters don’t understand the water infrastructure changes. Instead, the Prime Minister said they’ve “just heard the dog whistle racism that’s associated with it”. He’s previously said the term co-governance has been “misunderstood”. The inclusion of elements of co-governance in the Three Waters policy attracted some of the sharpest criticism.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/three-waters-reforms-reworked-into-10-regionally-led-entities-in-shake-up.html

But the “misunderstood” term co-governance is still there

Is a new law change going to just make all existing legislation, already passed into law, read “ten” instead of “four”?

I’ll have to think about this. Meanwhile, can you please turn the music down and the sprinklers off ☂
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April 13, 2023 11:49am
Maggie Pie

Just saw that Kieran McAnulty at the launch of the new & improved…
“AFFORDABLE WATER REFORMS”

What a f**ing DRIP!!
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April 13, 2023 11:51am
- Yabster
  
  yep just another labour clown
  
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  April 13, 2023 12:34pm
- greybeard
  
  If they got rid of all mention of preferential involvement for maori then maybe some sort of reform would be more palatable to the rest of NZ.
  I am sure the Labour government can see that, but at the same time they are shit-scared of rubbing the maori elements in Parliament the wrong way.
  Time for some straight speaking I think – don’t they know that most of the country would be behind them ?.
  
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  April 13, 2023 2:02pm
Maggie Pie

Is it a good time to buy a House…..

You’ll remember how last month, I posted a RE listing from ‘One Roof ‘ to show the other Maggy what you can get for just over a $mill in Mt Roskill.
A total shit-box, right?

Well compare this….absolutely amazeballs!!

https://oneroof.co.nz/62-grange-street-winton-southland-southland-1893992
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April 13, 2023 12:51pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Winton?
  why would you? Miles from the sea…and did I mention cold, freezing, wet?
  
  Plus…. did you count how many window panels in that place?
  It would take all day to dust the bloody muntins (mullions?), let alone clean the little bits of glass.
  
  Jeez for $1M you can bask in the sun here in the slumbos .. and it’s only a gentle stroll down to a contaminated beach.
  
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  April 13, 2023 2:02pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I was more thinking about the SIZE of the site…. 1879sm!!
    
    Didn’t you say you need that for your Kumara-patch or something?
    
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    April 13, 2023 2:13pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      That’s less than half an acre!
      
      Where the heck would my croquet courts go?
      
      And I saw no mention of a duck pond.
      
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      April 13, 2023 2:56pm
    - Yabster
      
      always about the size huh Maggie- I am on 7,500sqm in Chch…
      
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      April 13, 2023 3:00pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        So what would your current CV be then Yabbie?
        Probably the equivalent of about 750sqm in Mt Roskill I’m picking 😀
        
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        April 13, 2023 3:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        That’s probably too much for me now that I’m sliding into my dotage….
        
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        April 13, 2023 3:25pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        @Maggy Wassilieff @ 3:25PM
        
        Blimmin’ heck, Maggy, you’ve said that sort of thing before. You are 69/70 years of age – I’m 71. No way are you anywhere near “sliding into [your] dotage”.
        
        Please give yourself some credit. You swim in the ocean, for goodness sake! You clearly have all your faculties. Plenty of time for you to think about “your dotage” in about 15 or so years’ time.
        
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        April 13, 2023 4:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Steve Todd…
        
        and once upon a time I would do 6-8 hours gardening/day every day or go bush whenever I could….
        
        but now I sit on my bum and wonder if I should shovel a wheelbarrow of mulch over a patch of garden before I make T…..
        
        (I should and I will…..)
        
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        April 13, 2023 4:31pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        Um, okay. Thank you for that, Maggy.
        
        It may be that you are indicating that you are in physical decline (which saddens me, because we all know how much you love to swim). But that, of course, is not an indicator of mental decline / the onset of the state we refer to as “dotage”.
        
        I look forward to reading your comments for many years to come.
        
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        April 13, 2023 5:59pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Phew! Badly dressed Mags.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:07pm
lifesgood

To paraphrase Shakespeare “Three Waters by any other name will stink as much”
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April 13, 2023 1:24pm
- cas
  
  Lipstick on a pig
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:09pm
Yvette

blue collar
3 waters is an election loser and they are trying to re shape it in voters minds that it’s not bad , it’s good
Think 3 waters …. Word association…. affordable water

Truth be known, all this 3 Waters stuff was supposed to be home and hosed by now, so to speak.
Mainly Willie Jackson has fucked up in trying to knock the Maori Elite response into a shape he could get his Cabinet colleagues to sign off on – but that and Ardern’s promised “public co-governance conversattion” just didn’t happen. So now we have it running up to the Election. Perhaps it could not happen to a nicer group of persons
In yer lap, Christopher Luxon – don’t let it drain away through your fingers, again
Like to Seymour – David will know what to do with it :o)
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April 13, 2023 1:39pm
Ghost

I guess for us down here to save this amount a year then the Timaru council is right that under 3 waters the cost will go up to over $5,000 a year for water, what a joke. Come on labour tell us how much water rates will increase for people to save this much….

Government estimates claim households will save between $2800 and $5400 on average per year, by 2054

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131756757/three-waters-overhaul-government-to-create-10-public-water-entities-cogovernance-to-remain
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April 13, 2023 1:44pm
Maggie Pie

You can bet there will be a huge ‘sigh of relief’ from Frontline-Cops at the end of the month, when that Judge Colin Doherty finally retires as Chair-of-the-IPCA.

Hopefully, his replacement will have some real understanding of what it’s like to be out there putting your life on the line every day, having to deal with the dregs of society. Doing their best with what little resources they have to keep us safe in our beds!

Read this & weep…. I did 🙁

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1646287373871751170
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April 13, 2023 1:44pm
I remember when

Cyclone Gabrielle passed. Then the rumours of hundreds of deaths began. Stuff. 6 March 2023.

Surely disinformation.

Coronavirus: NZ’s 2020 Lockdown prevented 32,000 Covid-19 deaths and nearly 2 million infections – study : Newshub. 17 November 2021.

Obviously the truth.
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April 13, 2023 1:46pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/300852457/rightturn-arrows-proposed-for-clogged-intersection
Crikey ! I thought the only traffic jams in Palmerston North were caused by people trying to get out of the place .
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April 13, 2023 2:13pm
Chuck Bird

Gutfeld: The trans movement is everywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZzyfpXJ9Sk
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April 13, 2023 2:50pm
Widogast Corwin

So some coffee company in Columbia fails to mention Wellington in its list of the Top 50 cities that sell the best coffee. So a Stuff journalist has a melt down.

“Pōneke” was ‘snubbed’. Apparently that is the new name for Wellington. I had to google it to check.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-drink/drinks/131757322/a-baldfaced-lie-wellington-excluded-from-top-50-coffee-cities-list

Just when you think they cannot get any more stupid. I would love to know how much this outfit raised from its begging bowl.
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April 13, 2023 2:51pm
- MCōs
  
  Bit of outrage sells newspapers.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:36pm
  - Mike
    
    I reckon the Kiwiblog snowflakes should stop reading stories on Stuff: they get too upset.
    
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    April 13, 2023 5:09pm
Maggie Pie

Heard them saying on ZB that…. our New-Zealand-Passport has now dropped out of the world’s “TOP 10 POWER RANKING”.

Wonder if that’s got anything to do with this government changing the country’s name on the cover to: URUWHENUA AOTEAROA.
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April 13, 2023 2:52pm
- Ghost
  
  URUWHENUA AOTEAROA
  
  Is that the urology department?
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wonder what the ‘special name’ is for Colonoscopy?
    Yes I am due sometime this year.
    
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    April 13, 2023 3:31pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      gastroenterology department
      
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      April 13, 2023 4:06pm
- Yabster
  
  Liebour are embarassing us all- fucking muppets the lot.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:03pm
- MCōs
  
  The cover changing to its current format in 2011.
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/35050/new-zealand-passport#:~:text=New%20Zealand%20passports%20%E2%80%93%20like%20those,common%20symbol%20of%20New%20Zealand.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:31pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    FFS Cossie….keep up man!
    
    In the last couple of years they did the old switcheroo:
    
    URUWHENUA
    AOTEAROA
    
    NEW ZEALAND
    PASSPORT
    
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    April 13, 2023 3:56pm
    - Mike
      
      Just because you only recently got a passport for the first time shouldn’t persuade you that the design is new.
      
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      April 13, 2023 5:11pm
Ghost

Reading this article I can only guess the figures labour are using they have pulled out of their Butt

Claiming that by 2054 grey district will be paying $21,000 per year for water
Clutha district $22,000
Taupo $12,980
Timaru $8,940.

Three Waters reset: Ten new entities in policy purge, co-governance remains
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April 13, 2023 3:01pm
- cmm
  
  “Local Government Minister Kieran McAnulty said his model would deliver savings to households of between $2,770-$5,400 per year by 2054.”
  
  Ah, yes, model. Where have I heard that word before? Wait a bit… it will come to me….
  
  If you don’t support 3 waters then 80,000 grannies won’t be able to afford water!
  
  2054. long enough into the future that they can’t be fact checked.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:36pm
- NothingLeft
  
  What a load of shit. Most homes could make themselves self sufficient in water+sewerage for a small fraction of that annual cost.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:47pm
  - rockape
    
    Yep my self contained sewage system cost $16,000 , water tanks and three filters plus UF treatment cost another $12000 for 60000 litres storage. I guess they will find a way to bill me someday.
    
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    April 13, 2023 4:10pm
    - cmm
      
      Your septic tank (or whatever) is still seeping water into the earth which is part of Te Ika-a-Māui or Te Waipounamu.
      This messes with the (insert gibberish here).
      Therefore the taniwha needs food.
      
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      April 13, 2023 4:22pm
      - rockape
        
        My worms get to the food first.
        
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        April 13, 2023 6:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Ten new entities.
  Well you see Ghost, this place NEW ZEALAND has sort of doubled in size.
  This R. T. Rower (aotearoa) have latched on to the gravy train.
  This means you can have any number of ‘entities’ if another Elite has no job.
  
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  April 13, 2023 3:56pm
Handyman

Wellington has a new Maori name after someone realised that Poneke was a Maorification of Port Nicholson. Poneke is no longer the “correct” way to pronounce Wellington.
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April 13, 2023 3:39pm
- graham
  
  Simon Dallow on TV1 News (yes I know, SWMBO insists) usually refers to Wellington as “Te Whanganui-a-Tara”. I hadn’t heard “Poneke” before. And I gather “Te Upoko-o-te-Ika” is a regional name for the greater Wellington area.
  
  So I guess that means:
  
  – 0.0001% of the population will refer to “Te Whanganui-a-Tara”
  – 0.0001% of the population will refer to “Te Upoko-o-te-Ika”
  – 0.0001% of the population will refer to “Poneke”
  
  And will debate the correct name fiercely for years. Meanwhile:
  
  – 99.9997% of the population will continue to refer to “Wellington”
  
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  April 13, 2023 4:22pm
- cmm
  
  And the correct spelling, in the original Maori script, is still:
  ” “
  
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  April 13, 2023 4:31pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The Port Nicholson and Port New Plymouth were two lovely ships of the Port Line.
  
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  April 13, 2023 7:40pm
cmm

According to Linz:
“In 2013 Te Ika-a-Māui and Te Waipounamu were made official alternative names for the North Island and South Island respectively, which also became official.”

2013?? Labour in charge??

The Blue Wokes won’t fix anything.
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April 13, 2023 4:25pm
- Mike
  
  Our place names can seem complicated to immigrants, but most eventually adopt our ways.
  
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  April 13, 2023 4:29pm
- MCōs
  
  When I was kid long before you arrived here those names were used on our school atlases, official or not.
  
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  April 13, 2023 5:31pm
- graham
  
  Making a name “official” doesn’t change what the average man (or woman) in the street calls a place.
  
  How many people do you know who refer to “Te Ika-a-Māui” and “Te Waipounamu” in real life? (And no, news readers and weather presenters do NOT represent real life, no matter how much they might wish to). I have NEVER heard anybody outside of TV land refer to anything other than the North and South Islands.
  
  Just as I have NEVER heard colleagues at work, friends, or acquaintances talk about Tamaki Makaurau, Otautahi, or Otepoti. It simply doesn’t happen. Ever.
  
  And have you ever heard anybody talk about going to visit the Kirikiriroa Gardens, or taking a trip over to Aotea or Te Motu-arai-roa Island for the weekend? Of course you haven’t.
  
  It doesn’t matter how “official” a name is, or how often news readers try to persuade us otherwise, nobody in real life will EVER refer to Auckland as “Tamaki Makaurau”.
  
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  April 13, 2023 6:39pm
Maggie Pie

McAnulty tells 1ZB’s Tame Jack….Affordable Waters Reform will allow Aotearoa New Zealand “to honor the Treaty”

Mahutacorp looms large 🙁
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April 13, 2023 5:31pm
- Ghost
  
  Oh, what part of the treaty is sewage, storm water and water in?
  
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  April 13, 2023 5:33pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  No need to ask how exactly. Just switch off brain, shut your mouth and believe. Then you will be accepted as a true believer and all will be well.
  
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  April 13, 2023 6:00pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Hey subhuman scum, give me money and control over everything.
  
  Why?
  
  Because my great great great grandfather was xxx, and you know, I have feelings and stuff.
  
  I mean, that seems like a totally legit and sensible way to run a country, right?
  
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  April 13, 2023 6:33pm
Maggie Pie

You can fully understand why an old queen STILL living in Lower Hutt after all these years, would be such a nasty prick.

Just saying 😛
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April 13, 2023 5:45pm
Ghost

They haven’t got $5 to rub together, so they can’t find $1.5 billion

Government quietly withdraws $1.5b promised to councils in Three Waters reset

Prime Minister Chris Hipkins and Local Government Minister Kieran McAnulty announced changes to the Government’s long-planned reform of the country’s fresh, waste, and storm water systems on Thursday, saying a previously proposed four public water entities would instead be split into 10 regional entities.

But neither mentioned the withdrawal of $1.5b “better off” funding that was promised to councils, which are losing control of water assets in the reform. The $1.5b was part of a total $2b package of “better off” funding being offered to councils as part of the reforms.
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April 13, 2023 5:54pm
Ghost

Not guilty plea, ah, you and your client might want to watch the video

A man charged after allegedly assaulting and dragging a woman out of a bottle store and putting her into an awaiting vehicle has been granted name suppression.

The 28-year-old man, from North Waikato, made a brief appearance in the Hamilton District Court today facing three charges; one of kidnapping and two of assault with intent to injure after an alleged incident outside the Bottle-O in Ngāruawāhia on Saturday night.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/man-alleged-to-have-kidnapped-dragged-woman-out-of-bottle-store-in-court/TXCMX2VBRRCAPGP2EQACSYVA6E/
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April 13, 2023 6:02pm
Ghost

Well done. I hope there is a company out there, or a few that get together and give you a new car.

A self-described “nanny” from Cambridge took matters into her own hands on Easter Monday when she saw ram raiders smashed through the town’s Spark store.

The Cambridge grandmother told Cambridge News she was on her way to grab an early morning coffee when she saw a vehicle smashed through the front of the Spark Store on Victoria St.

The woman, who didn’t want to be identified, said her instincts took over and decided “it’s not happening”.

It’s reported the woman drove over the median strip and rammed an additional car that’s believed to be a getaway car which was waiting for the offenders inside.

“They all came out of Spark like bees from a hive, yelling. I tried to reverse but couldn’t, so I hit the car hard again,” she told Cambridge News.

She claims one of the offenders which she describes as “a little guy” slipped around in his jandals and fell on the pavement.

“Builder’s crack, it was hilarious.”

Newshub
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- Bloody Dago
  
  Full marks to Cambridge Nanny, excellent skills by messing up these POS’s
  
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