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Yvette

What came down in this morning’s shower –

Taranaki Maunga [Mt Taranaki / Egmont] is one step closer to becoming a legal person following the preliminary signing of a collective Treaty settlement today.
That means it can [be] represented in court and give submissions to a select committee.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/03/31/taranaki-maunga-one-step-closer-to-having-the-legal-status-of-a-person/

A “bizarre” gagging order is stopping Māori business leaders from discussing changes which they say will “tank” Māori-run carbon forestry.
… Multiple sources say they were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) in order to participate in consultation about changes to the ETS and carbon catching forestry. The legal hurdles and tight timeframe meant some experts were given just a day to digest a 150-page report and give feedback.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131679612/new-ets-plan-concerns-mori-leaders-but-gagging-order-stops-them-talking-about-it

When you have been a mountain – a bloody great pile of rocks – sitting there for about 130 millennia and you last spoke around 1790, give a year or two or so – to allow those in charge of your handicap (tetraplegic immobility) needs as to what may clothe your lower sides and foothills, just one day to digest a 150-page report and give feedback, seems a little rich.

This may indeed be a second form of colonisation: literally, stone and rock-age beliefs supplanted [sic] by the newer climate change religion – although change does seem to come and go, when you are a mountain.
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April 5, 2023 8:01am
- peterwn
  
  It begs the question who and how the mountain’s puppeteers are appointed.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:47am
  - NothingLeft
    
    “begs the question” means assumes the truth of the conclusion without support. A logical fallacy.
    
    “raises the question” is what most people really mean when they use it. Sadly the original meaning is being corrupted by common usage and lost. Like literally.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:09am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      That’s one meaning, and while technically correct, the way it was used by peterwn is also correct.
      
      “In informal, everyday use, beg the question means “to raise a fairly obvious but still unanswered question.” If your neighbor got hit by lightning on the roof of their house, it would beg the question: what were they doing on the roof in a thunderstorm? Though it’s best avoided in formal contexts, this usage is the more common one.”
      
      I’m sorry, but if I have to put up with such nonsense as “undoubtably” instead of “undoubtedly” and “case and point” instead of “case in point” then you’re going to have to wear this one 🙂
      
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      April 5, 2023 6:16pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  More madness and normalisation of the surreal and impossible. Rivers and mountains are people, men can have vaginas and can get pregnant, chicks can have dicks and beards, and you’re all a pack of racist bigots if you say it ain’t so.
  
  If they can make you accept and believe the patently absurd, they have you under control and can make you believe literally anything.
  
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  April 5, 2023 6:11pm
Warren

Jacinda Ardern our Former Prime Minister continues her lies with the help of our corrupt media yesterday with the headline Jacinda Ardern hoped resignation would take ‘ heat out’ of viral directed at Government.
Jacinda Ardern also went on to defend her record on reducing Child Poverty, saying her Government started the work that would be continued by future Leaders. I believe we did all we could do she said.
“The job was never going to be done in five years, but I believe we made a stepchange”.
Asked about Co Governance and why she had not spent time explaining it, she disagrees and said she had “why be afraid of having Maori at the table?”. “Why be afraid of that. That for me was the starting point.
She forget the damage that has been done by her and the continued lies .
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April 5, 2023 8:01am
- sirknz
  
  There is this media [Mod -deleted] in $tuff today: https://archive.fo/3xOh1
  
  I expect the comment section to be closed in short order, or the usual trick of putting up the negative comments first and then releasing all the positive comments a bit later.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:25am
- Tricati
  
  For my sins I just read the article in the NZH by Adam Pearce on Ardern’s interviews with TV1 & 3 last night. One piece clearly shows how dishonest the woman is, that being:
  Asked about co-governance and why she had not herself spent time explaining it, she disagreed and said she had.
  “Why be afraid of having Māori at the table?” she told 1News.
  “Why be afraid of that. That for me was the starting point.
  “We took on some hard debates and discussions, I am proud that we did because we will grow as a nation.”
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/jacinda-ardern-to-become-nzs-special-envoy-for-christchurch-call/GGBXFHI5SNFQZO5A2MVBWIQ2LQ/
  In May last, year she promised to consult with the wider public (@83% of the population) after it was revelled numerous meetings (@80 odd) had been held with iwi/hapu and Māori elite. I have followed this closely and to my knowledge no such consultation/discussions have taken place with the wider public of NZ – The woman just can’t stop talking BS.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confirms-public-consultation-on-m-ori-co-governance-will-happen-in-2022.html
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:29am
  - Che Guava
    
    Typical and instructive that she couches the co-governance debate in negative emotional terms (i.e. “afraid of Maori”), rather than in terms of any positive rational case that can be objectively assessed, preferably a legal/constitutional justification, but at least a utilitarian one.
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:19am
    - Ehlana
      
      No-one is afraid of having Maori at the table. That’s why ordinary New Zealanders vote for them in general electorates as Members of Parliament and for local government.
      
      But everyone not born into the elite is afraid of hereditary rulership. We have learnt through long-suffering that it is never in our interests.
      
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      April 5, 2023 3:47pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  All they did was throw money at a bottomless pit, unless every cent is budget for, then it will only get worse. Something the left never seem to grasp.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:33am
- pdm
  
  Hey Jacinda – Maori are at the top table.
  
  Did you not notice Willie Jackson and Nania Mahuta walking all over you in Cabinet over the last two years. They were out of control and you did nothing.
  
  That is your lasting legacy to New Zealand and New Zealanders.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Did she keep the ‘Stop Co-Governance’ movement from them?
    Jackson and Mahuta will know, but will be pleased it has not been exposed in Parliament.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:33am
  - Che Guava
    
    It’s very important to always pretend that something that is already the case, actually isn’t the case at all, and that the proposed policy is the solution that will make it the case. Is that clear?
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:24am
  - Paul Marsden
    
    You mean the Maori are in control
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:34pm
- RoboRob
  
  Media are reporting JAs next role will be that as NZs official representative for the Christchurch call.
  
  WT absolute F
  
  I know that we often give ex ministers cushy roles on boards or as ambassadors but this is just a step too far. We have apparently made a whole new role that means JA can travel around the world at our expense and earn a nice salary without actually needing to do anything. Disestablishing this nothing role should be the very first action of a new government. Disgusting.
  
  Also shows how strong the international demand for someone with Jacindas skill set really is.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:41am
  - Ghost
    
    She is doing it for free. And her censorship speech at the UN is what she will be pushing for
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:00am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      “All her expenses are being covered”
      
      – Chippie
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:08am
      - Ghost
        
        The special envoy role is a brand new position created by the Government – which Ardern will do for free.
        
        Newshub
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:30am
      - rangitoto
        
        Airfares, hotel accommodation, meals etc are not free.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:07am
    - Phronesis
      
      What you mean is the Government isn’t paying her. That doesn’t mean she isn’t getting paid. In fact it may be a way of facilitating her getting paid a lot more by people who will remain anonymous. All the power but no accountability because she’s doing it for free…
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:10am
    - RoboRob
      
      Hipkins…
      ‘Prime Minister Chris Hipkins earlier hinted that Ardern would be working on the Christchurch Call. Her role, as a “special envoy”, would see her report directly to the prime minister.’
      
      Hipkins office
      “Jacinda Ardern has declined to receive any remuneration as Special Envoy, and will commence her role on 17 April,” it said.
      
      She might not be getting paid a salary (although I struggle with that, she isn’t that wealthy), but we sure as hell will be covering her travel expenses.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:11am
      - Ghost
        
        She will be well paid by prince william
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:31am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I think you will find that Prince William’s Charity – “Earthshot” that is now to be graced by Jacinda Ardern’s presence is donkey deep in entanglements with WEF and dirty oil.
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/19/prince-william-charity-royal-foundation-bank-jp-morgan-fossil-fuel-backers
        
        https://www.weforum.org/videos/these-5-inventions-won-the-earthshot-prize-2022
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:47am
      - cmm
        
        “She might not be getting paid a salary”… by the government.
        
        But I’ll bet 50 cents and a servo pie that she is being paid by an NGO either funded by the NZ taxpayer or by some foreign entity.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:27am
      - Piniwi
        
        We must ask why there would need to be ANY travel when considering the Christchurch Call.
        Since the definition is : “Christchurch Call To Eliminate Terrorist and Violent Extremist Content Online (15 May 2019)” . With current technology any and all matters can be handled economically online. This made up role is a confirmation that job offers were thin on the ground for the SLG when she jumped ship. Ok don’t laugh as the majority opinion is she got the push. Only wish she would show some dignity and settle silently somewhere well out of sight.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:34am
      - artemisia
        
        Zoom is cheap.
        
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        April 5, 2023 3:42pm
    - GJM
      
      She won’t be doing it for free. There will be payment of some sort there, and plenty of it.
      She will be used to a half a million dollar salary plus perks and kickbacks. Can’t see her dropping from that.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      “Nothing less than dangerous” Neil Oliver.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:54am
    - Che Guava
      
      If you’re the “single source of truth” then why would you need censorship? What could anyone possibly say that could undermine and contradict your own omniscient pronouncements?
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:28am
  - crikey
    
    RoboRob: Can you please elucidate specifically what Ardern’s skill set is that is in demand. It has passed me by.
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:23am
    - RoboRob
      
      Thats precisely why she has no ‘real’ job offers.
      
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      April 5, 2023 2:07pm
artemisia

Ms Ardern’s one word description of her tenure – ‘tired’. Carefully chosen in advance.

Suggest ‘divisive’ would be more accurate.
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April 5, 2023 8:02am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  We got tired of her bullshittery
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:34am
- cmm
  
  After she was thrown under the bus she was tyred.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:28am
BeaB

Not many prime ministers leave the country much worse off than when they took office.
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April 5, 2023 8:02am
- Ghost
  
  I can think of a few, and they are all labour prime ministers
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:11am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Muldoon ?
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:29am
    - RoboRob
      
      Hmm well some would argue he was in the wrong party.
      
      In my book he was a better PM than JA in that he actually did manage to build his projects (Marsdon point, Clyde dam etc). He took a lot of flack for his think big projects but they actually more than paid for themselves over the years. What physical project has Jacinda created that we will look back on in that way?
      
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      April 5, 2023 8:45am
      - septic skeptic
        
        I agree. Prior to Ardern I thought Muldoon was certainly the worst in my memory.
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:03am
      - Piniwi
        
        Right RoboRob. You had to be there to even start to understand what was going on in those days.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:39am
      - Ian Boag
        
        flak for his think big projects but they actually more than paid for themselves over the years.
        
        Did they? Can you point me at some kind of accounting where I can read about that?
        
        Possibly as huge sunk costs it just made sense to forget about what they cost ….
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:58am
      - RoboRob
        
        @Ian Boag
        
        Point me to accounting that shows having a massive hydro damn generating cheap, environmentally friendly energy is a bad thing.
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:10pm
    - Lance
      
      Because that’s how far back the lefties have to go
      
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      April 5, 2023 8:48am
    - Cassandra
      
      Best Labour leader since Fraser. And the worst. Piggy was in the wrong party.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:10am
    - RoboRob
      
      Hey Ian, want to name a PM you think was worse than JA?
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:12am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Palmer?
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:55am
      - RoboRob
        
        Not in power long enough to make any difference?
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:31am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The last three Lsbour regimes have left the nation far worse off
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:34am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Lange/Douglas govt saved NZ economy Clark/Cullen was at least sort-of fiscally responsible even if they grew welfarism and regulation. Ardern/Robertson all bad.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:15am
    - Matt Long
      
      Lange Douglas saved the economy so well that the mother of all budgets was required to save the country from complete collapse and they lied to the public about how bad things really were before the election.
      They introduced some badly needed reforms but wrecked the economy because they were a labour government.
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:56am
    - RoboRob
      
      Agree re Clark / Cullen. Sensible financial management but sabotaged the incomming govt on the way out.
      
      Lange/Douglas. Douglas was the ‘brains’ and did all the heavy lifting. He was in the wrong party as evidenced by his future in politics. Lange was a hugely popular leader and quite charasmatic (for some reason). Langes baby was the Nuclear free stance, that was incredibly popular and well supported. Long term is cost nz Anzus and has set us up for failure now as we struggle to overcome a fear of nuclear energy. He certainly achieved much more than JA.
      
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      April 5, 2023 2:16pm
- Paulus
  
  I apologies in advance, as that is now the way to do things now.
  Ardern has a new specially arranged job, from Chippy, whereby she is able to travel the World at our expense trying to get a job and extolling her virtue (read toxicity).
  Something to do with the massacre in Christchurch.
  This other new role appears to do with some Charity to which Prince William is involved, and I assume she will attend the meetings, talk, talk talk, and our financial contribution will given to some overseas charity showing how wonderful she is, and how we misunderstood her.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:41am
  - Cassandra
    
    And pay her substantial bills. I hope [Deleted – That’s not his name. mod.]* scrubs it. * the other Chris.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:11am
- Close Hen Counters
  
  What the hell has she done since becoming a backbencher???? On full pay doing nada – I hissed when I heard today it is her last day and she will present her valedictory speech …. Rather I imagine she will flutter into the chamber wearing angel wings, tilty head, frown, sad eyes with another pity me speech – I don’t know much about questions and supplementaries but I hoped she gets nailed by the opposition today
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:04am
  - James Stephenson
    
    What the hell did she do as a backbencher before the carefully crafted campaign in womens’ magazines paid off and landed her the job “she wasn’t interested in” (I think that was probably the first of her lies as PM).?
    
    Every single one of her members “bills” were barely more than bumper stickers, so the talent for announcement over actual substance and delivery was also well-signalled in advance of her Government years.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:54am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She hasn’t been to parliament, went to HB snd cut a pumpkin at marae, when her own city had huge problems with flooding and damage, no where to be seen
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:44am
  - Matt Long
    
    What has she done? No more damage I would hope. What a great thing in would be if the rest of her colleagues were thrown in the metaphorical closet for the next 6 months as well.
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:59am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Apropos of this story, what’s missing is why Mani Dunlop did not get the Morning Report gig. It will absolutely not be because she is Maori. Kiri Allen will know that RNZ will crawl over broken glass to burnish their Woke credentials.

I assume it’s because of the conflict of interest in having a political presenter living with a Minister of the Crown. The fact that this is not top of mind for Allen illustrates her primacy of family interests over the public interest, I think.

Note the use of family instead of whanau by Allen. Labour toning down the te reo ahead of the election, perhaps?

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/cabinet-minister-kiri-allan-apologises-over-comments-at-rnz-farewell-for-fianc-e-m-ni-dunlop.html
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April 5, 2023 8:02am
- Nickc2
  
  If Hipkins is in fact true to the rationale used when sacking Stuart Nash, he should apply same equally to Kiri Allan and sack her.
  Will he?
  Of course not, there are too many interests/votes/headlines at play here: she’s a lesbian, a Maori, and a Woman.
  Imagine Te MSM’s response if he did sack her eh?
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:30am
  - emmess
    
    Well lesbian and Maori anyway
    He doesn’t understand what the last one is
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:10am
    - leoj
      
      If it wasn’t for Labour and Greens, weird people would have nowhere to go.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:53am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I bet something else comes of this, I am sure there is a consented effort to shaft their getter ministers
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:46am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She actually had two strikes here, I think someone smart is working these ministers, she will have more tricks come out over the next fortnight.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:36am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The person who got the job is Ingrid Hipkiss.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/482697/morning-report-reveals-television-presenter-ingrid-hipkiss-as-new-co-host
  
  Probably better qualified and more experienced than Mani Dunlop.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:43am
  - I remember when
    
    “Corin and the majority of the Morning Report team will continue to work out of the Capital, but we’ve purposely added a couple of Auckland-based people to the team to increase our audience in our biggest city,” Sutherland said.
    
    Who knew that two people could be called an audience boost.
    
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    April 5, 2023 1:45pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  `These Labour MP’s are unbelievable with their entitlement
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:48am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Jacinda Ardern leaves parliament today.

Good riddance.
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April 5, 2023 8:03am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  It will be fascinating to see which MPs rise to their feet to give her a standing ovation. My prediction. All National MPs. I hope David Seymour remains seated.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:17am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    They all will, including David Seymour. It would be very churlish not to do so.
    There isn’t the antipathy among MP’s towards MP’s of other parties that people here seem to imagine. There are exceptions, but that is invariably related to their personal characteristics rather than their political orientation.
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:32am
    - Colville
      
      Yeah everyone should be thrilled to see her leave.
      
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      April 5, 2023 8:39am
      - Paulus
        
        Many of her own party I believe are quite happy to asee her go as she would have mde the Labour Election platform more toxic than it is now.
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:32pm
    - kowtow
      
      ‘All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts,’
      
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      April 5, 2023 8:43am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      “There isn’t the antipathy among MP’s towards MP’s of other parties that people here seem to imagine. ”
      
      Really? Jacinda Ardern led a Government that has caused immense damage to the country. She designed policies that have wrecked the lives of many people. There should be antipathy towards her.
      
      Rawiri Waititi seems to hold a great deal of antipathy towards David Seymour. So did Winston Peters.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:16am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Have you ever heard of a thing called diplomacy? In there may lay your answer.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:55am
    - cmm
      
      Wayne is right. It’s all professional wresting.
      Red and blue colouring for the same flavour KoolAid.
      
      Someone can sabotage the country as badly as JA (or Aunti H) did and they will still be lined up with a plumb job.
      
      If Cindy had been turfed out at the election rather than quitting early, it would be Luxon sorting out a nice wee job for her – no Chippy. That’s exactly what John Key did for Auntie H.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:38am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Key fix not get Clark the UN job, snd why would Luxon get her any dirt of job, she r we puke be utterly useless as a diplomat
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:56am
    - Keith White
      
      That woman led the government that damaged my daughter’s health for life, exiled me overseas, separated me from a parent’s death, made me compete in a lottery to get home, and made me pay for my prison hotel. And you typecast people like me as churlish, Wayne? If I was there I’d turn my back and boo.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:41am
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        I get diplomacy and parliamentary niceness. I really do. But my objection to Wayne Mapp’s view of the world is that he makes Parliament sound like a ‘club’ with a red team and a blue team.
        
        This is not about antipathy towards Jacinda Ardern because of her political orientation. She deserves derision because of what she DID. By any objective measure she was a terrible PM who did immense damage to the country. It just does not sit well with me that MPs who know this to be true give her a standing ovation.
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:07am
      - Matt Long
        
        Exactly, I get the impression Wayne would applaud satan when he’s thrown into the pit of fire, “great job ruling the earth there lucifer. ”
        But then what would have been fundamentally different about how the Mapp Luxon Nats would have handled covid etc. to how Arden did?
        
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        April 5, 2023 12:07pm
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        Widogast,
        No, I didn’t mean that it is little more than a club with alternating teams.
        Rather it reflects that you actually have to get on with people of other parties to get things done. Both in Select Committees and in the Debating Chamber.
        Because you see your opponents just about every day, common civility is an essential part of making democracy work.
        Any effective democracy requires both sides to work together to make the system work. You can’t do what you and Keith White imagine and still have an effective democracy. I have been to a number of countries where parliamentarians and legislators act exactly like that. They are barely functioning democracies, with boycotts, walkouts, arrests of opponents and so forth. Not a path to go down, which the US seems to be currently moving down.
        I would also point out that the Leaders of the major parties have to consult each other from time to time. Especially on matters of security, critical foreign policy decisions (Ukraine) and in providing consent to emergency legislation such as the Christchurch earthquake and the recent cyclone. Also the response to Covid, especially in the first twelve months. Which as I recall, you supported. Yes, the lockdowns went on too long, especially in Auckland where I live.
        In short to be a responsible Leader of a major party that wants a credible role in government requires a certain level of trust and the ability to put partisanship aside in appropriate circumstances.
        So no, I don’t agree with your view as to how Jacinda Ardern should be treated today. To do so would seriously degrade our democracy.
        
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        April 5, 2023 4:49pm
    - Che Guava
      
      Wayne Mapp’s ideal political constitution is apparently a One Party State where inefficient disagreements and antagonisms only serve to make people uncomfortable, a system wherein the many political inevitabilities (and they are as inevitable as tomorrow’s sunrise) can proceed without resistance.
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:37am
  - Ghost
    
    Everyone stood and clapped for both Key and English, why do you want the right to not show the same respect shown to the rights last two prime ministers?
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:38am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Correct. It’s a matter of respect for the office of Parliament that maiden speeches and valedictories get a standing ovation. To do otherwise is churlish, and it’s the sort of stunt that some Green and Maori Party MP’s would pull.
      
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      April 5, 2023 8:42am
      - Debsta
        
        Yeah let’s not sink to their level. They can applaud her “leaving” and remain true to themselves. It’s kinda politics 101, don’t give ammo to the MSM.
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:13am
      - Keith White
        
        Oh yes by all means let’s keep losing politely.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:42am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Diplomacy
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:57am
      - The Housekeeper
        
        I’d prefer a standing ovation because my speech deserved it.
        
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        April 5, 2023 3:21pm
    - kowtow
      
      Parliament gave the clap to everyone in the country 3 years ago.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:25am
      - Hacked-Off
        
        No KT – That was Winston Peters who gave NZ the clap in 2017. Labour was the disease and hopefully NZ will visit the VD Clinic on 14 October to get the cure.
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:45am
  - Local Miller
    
    Some will stand to applaud her, some will stand to applaud her leaving.
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:42am
    - Ehlana
      
      Everyone brings joy into this office – some when they arrive and some when they leave.
      
      Good manners seem hypocritical because they often mean being polite to people you don’t like or agree with. But another way of looking at it is that by being polite you are acknowledging and respecting other people as also human. Have bad manners really made our world a better place for anyone?
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:28am
      - Keith White
        
        Have good manners from us ever stopped the Labour Government from ruining our country?
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:43am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    All MPs will rise, only a complete numpty would stay seated
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:47am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Leaves, she has not been there since before Christmas, she won’t be seen there again, same will happen with Nash, at least Key sat in parliament for the rest of his time.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:38am
- Paulus
  
  Sadly she will still be based in New Zealand travelling the World at our expense extolling her virtues (for a job)
  She remains Toxic except to her screaming followers.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:44am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It has been a long, long 5 and half years waiting for this day to arrive.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:44am
- Bloody Dago
  
  Join up with Sanna Marin as a double act wahoo girls for kindness world tour. Good riddance to both.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:51am
Nickc2

How come the science on climate change is agreed and settled but the definition of a woman, not so much?
Hipkins, you are a desgrace! Your lack of knowledge about the definition of a woman yesterday has become World News. What a dumb arse statement it was, even from an unelected PM that you are.
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April 5, 2023 8:05am
- Ehlana
  
  Climate change dates to the beginning of the use of fossil fuels; women have only been around since before we had words.
  
  So, umm, well, you see, ahh…. nine years of neglect?
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:35am
  - kowtow
    
    Yes it’s truly astounding , the science is settled.
    
    Science cannot tell us with any certainty why the current warming started some 10 -15000 years ago ( one of many such cycles) , it can’t tell us precisely why there were cooling phases during that warming and it can’t tell us exactly why the Little Ice Age ended only 150 odd years ago.
    
    But the science is settled; using a diesel car , eating meat , drinking milk , heating your home and going on holiday is literally ( according to these folk who don’t know) setting the planet on fire on the one hand , flooding its coastal cities on the other and making it rain like never before .
    
    Catastrophic man made climate change is a fear porn, control scam designed to impoverish the west and imprison its population.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:01am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Go back to my comments about Exit Glacier, Seward, Alaska. It has been ‘exiting’ since thousands of years ago, way before the Industrial Revolution. But we won’t mention that, it spoils the fear porn.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:06am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Statement? He choked on his breakfast.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:39am
artemisia

That Nelson teacher (sorry kaimahi) swearing at students (sorry akonga). OK language wasOTT but sounds like a passionate teacher doing his (sorry their) best to stop the students fucking around and failing.
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April 5, 2023 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Couldn’t possibly be because he couldn’t deliver a decent lesson.
  
  Can anyone come up with a possible topic that was being taught… something involving gluing 4 straws to 4 bits of paper?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300847144/nelson-teacher-swears-at-students-after-they-take-an-hour-to-do-fing-nothing
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:18am
  - Ghost
    
    McDonald’s training?
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:19am
  - kowtow
    
    The whole exercise seems a monumental waste of everyone’s time .
    
    The class , the ambush ( for that’s what it is) and esp te media reaction.
    
    btw looks like those pupils and parent are right little toe rags , get teacher angry , run to mummy ,then to authority.
    
    They’ll make excellent victimhood activists or journalists in future , if they can manage to stay out of the justice ‘system’.
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:48am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I don’t know if the pupils are toe-rags or not, but the teacher has to take some responsibility for not attending to the pupils more in the 1 hour that they did “fucking nothing”.
      
      And no bunch of school kids need to be shouted at in the manner that he did.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:31am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        I had more than once been grabbed and shoved against a wall by male teachers at my high school, and I am not going to say I didn’t deserve it. This was long after corporal punishment and they could have gotten in deep trouble.
        But in those days, no smart phones and no ‘wah wah’ victim exaltation. A short sharp shock is exactly what some people need.
        
        So if some useless & lazy students get told that they are useless and lazy, good job. You certainly can live outside of school by being lazy and entitled, but you actually need to strive and aspire to get ahead and not just suckle on the government teat.
        Honestly, the teacher transcript sounds like some of the conversations I (occasionally) feel compelled to have between me and my son 😉
        Maybe the poor dears aren’t getting any such useful feedback at home?
        
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        April 5, 2023 12:55pm
Southern Raider

So John Campbell did a big puff piece on Jacinda last night on One News.

When he flashed back to her becoming leader and her bold statements about ridding NZ of child poverty, providing houses to all and climate change being her nuclear free moment he asked “did you achieve those things”.

She said categorically “yes”. She is a pathological liar and JC just lapped it up with fawning eyes. If he was a proper journalist he would have cut her to bits with all the statistics publicly available about complete non delivery.

The left are also busy making claims that’s she’s a saint because she’s going to these two new “causes” and not being paid. Someone needs to chase down the money trail as someone is funding her and a lot.
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April 5, 2023 8:07am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  She oversaw a manic housing bubble and created tens of thousands of homeless people. Now can she get away with such lies?
  
  We are in this crazy world. Kàinga Ora is housing feral gang members in very nice double glazed houses for $100 per week in rent. Meanwhile couples have million dollar mortgages on drafty shit boxes in Lower Hutt.
  
  Thanks a bunch Jacinda. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤧
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:15am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    How did Kiwibuild go? Or the light rail, which she promised in 2017 would be at Mt Roskill by 2021, two years ago.
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:43am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And she wonders why she is hated
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:40am
- rouppe
  
  The only one specifically stated as not paid was the Christchurch call ambassador?
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:18am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The other won’t be paid for by the tax payer
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:02am
All_on_Red

‘And there it is – he said the quiet part out loud.
Biden all but confirmed that his team is coordinating these Trump indictments to “stop Trump from taking power again”
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1642984137765302272?cxt=HHwWgMDR8cnXhs0tAAAA

As for those 34 (!) charges against Trump. Sounds serious. Or its old fashioned Charge Stacking to make things look bad so the Media and their useful idiots can go ‘See, Orange Man Bad’.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/04/04/those-34-charges-against-trump-may-not-be-what-they-seem-n725992

The message is clear. We can do this to Trump and we will do it to you if you don’t stay quiet.
Recently we saw in NZ how our leaders and those in Media widely condemned Posie Parker. They deliberately ignored what her views actually were and in doing so stoked division and hate which culminated in an attack on elderly women.
They abused their power to target someone they didnt like.
Lets hope more NZers wake up to this behaviour and we all vote this Govt out.
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April 5, 2023 8:08am
- virtualmark
  
  Sigh.
  
  Twitter themselves have labelled that video as misleading. It is from November, and was Biden responding to a question about Trump announcing his Presidential campaign. But you do you.
  
  I’m “meh” about the charges against Trump, but the law is the law and if he is proved to have broken the law then no one should complain. I’d say exactly the same thing about Biden, the Clintons or any other politician. Having a public profile does not excuse you from the law.
  
  Note that this is just one of *six* investigations against Trump, and arguably the least significant.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:33am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    “Having a public profile does not excuse you from the law” – true, but it does not mean that Prosecutors should stretch (break) the rules just because they don’t like his public profile either.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:20am
    - virtualmark
      
      Shrug.
      
      Lock her up is okay.
      Lock him up is not okay.
      
      Who said pronouns don’t matter?
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:36am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Huh?
        He has been charged.
        She hasn’t been charged.
        
        Who said pronouns don’t matter?
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:05am
      - Tom Hunter
        
        Funnily enough on that matter…
        
        According to Trump Attorney General Bill Barr’s recently published memoir, “Trump brought up the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and surprised Barr by saying that he had wanted the matter to be dropped after the 2016 election,” according to a review of Barr’s memoir in the fall 2022 Claremont Review of Books.
        
        “‘Even if she were guilty,’ he told Barr, “for the election winner to seek prosecution of the loser would make the country look like a ‘banana republic.’”
        
        It’s like when Trump defended Nancy Pelosi against AOC’s implications that Pelosi was a racist. There’s never any reciprocal decency from the Democrat Party, but plenty of projection, followed by matching actions.
        
        I wonder how many GOP DA’s and AG’s around the nation, filled with political ambition, are now looking at Bragg and thinking, “That’s the ticket to further success” the next time a Democrat Presidential nominee passes through their jurisdiction?
        
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        April 5, 2023 12:51pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Shrug.
        
        If that DA or AG can get enough evidence to convince a grand jury to bring an indictment then that’s the system at work right? But that’s quite a hurdle to overcome.
        
        But hey Tom, have you heard what Michael Cohen calls Trump? Diaper Don. Wonder why? I mean Michael knows Trump well right?
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:19pm
  - backster
    
    Then why don’t you say the same thing about Biden there seems clear evidence that he coluded with his son to enrich himself and his family but official coverup at all levels.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:33am
    - virtualmark
      
      Well put that evidence in front of a Court.
      
      I think Hunter Biden is a sleaze. I don’t know whether he’s a crook. It wouldn’t surprise me, and I’m open to being convinced. I do know lots of people in the right-wing media want to beat that drum, but so far I’ve not seen anything that’s even remotely like proof.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:02am
      - Nickc2
        
        His father admitted it!
        “If you don’t fire the god damned prosecutor, you’re not getting the $1Bn,” Biden said when questioned in Ukraine.
        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:11pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Um, did you read that article? Beyond just the headline?
        
        Yes, Biden used the leverage of US aid to have a Ukrainian prosecuted removed. But that was in full accordance and pursuit of the US and EU’s agreed policies, and was because that particular prosecutor wasn’t doing his job (prosecuting corruption). There is no evidence, or even a serious suggestion, that Biden personally benefited from that decision.
        
        Ukraine’s history over the last 15 years has basically been a long arc of getting rid of Russian-aligned politicians, bureaucrats and oligarchs. Driven by the Ukrainian people’s wish to live a more Western and democratic life. This event you’re pointing to was a part of that long arc.
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:23pm
      - Che Guava
        
        “but so far I’ve not seen anything that’s even remotely like proof.”
        
        As someone who is seemingly chronically convinced of Trump’s guilt (on any and all of the multitude of past accusations), and regardless of how many times those myriad accusations have all come to naught (despite assurances that “the walls are closing in” on Trump this time) it is quite unlike you as to be so objective about as to require any proof as it pertains to Hunter Biden.
        
        “Trump Bombshell Montage – Walls Are Closing In”
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908
        
        “Democrats, Media Love Saying the Walls Are Closing in on Trump”
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLEchPZm318
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:20pm
      - Che Guava
        
        “Ukraine’s history over the last 15 years has basically been a long arc of getting rid of Russian-aligned politicians, bureaucrats and oligarchs.”
        
        To be accurate, Ukraine’s history over the last 15 years has basically been a long arc of [American efforts aimed at] getting rid of Russian-aligned politicians, bureaucrats and oligarchs [freely elected by Ukrainians but conflicting with US interests].
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:26pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Che,
        
        To be accurate, Ukraine’s history over the last 15 years has basically been a long arc of Ukrainian mass movements aimed at getting rid of Russian-aligned politicians, bureaucrats and oligarchs who were elected in elections that had lots of Russian interference.
        
        The Maidan revolution was the most significant of those Ukrainian mass movements.
        
        And the 2014 Crimea/Donbas invasions and 2022 Russian invasion were Russian responses to seeing Ukraine become more westernised and democratic. Putin et al don’t want Russians to see a modernising Ukraine … they might get ideas about a modernising democratic Russia.
        
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        April 5, 2023 4:06pm
  - Che Guava
    
    People don’t have to like Trump, but any sentient being with an ability observe events, assign motivations and infer conclusions therefrom should be able to conclude that 2015-16 was a coordinated institutional effort to prevent Trump’s election and to thwart the popular will, that 2017-2021 was a coordinated effort to remove Trump from office once elected and negate the popular will, and that 2021 -2024 is and will be about making sure Trump isn’t in a position to run again and win based on the popular will. “Protecting our democracy” really equates to “preventing democracy from functioning in a way that threatens entrenched common interests.”
    
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    April 5, 2023 2:07pm
  - bco90
    
    “the law is the law and if he is proved to have broken the law then no one should complain.”
    
    So, it shouldn’t matter if its motivated by an attempt to imprison the leading candidate of the opposition, and not about justice? That shouldn’t be complained about?
    
    Just since Jan 1st, Alvin Bragg has reduced 52% of felony cases to misdemeanors. Between 2013 and 2020, his predecessors, also keen to reduce where possible, never went higher than 40%. He’s clearly no fan of felony charges, yet is desperately trying to pin one on Trump. Sounds like a vendetta, doesn’t it?
    
    He entered office declaring that he would prosecute Trump, admitting his aim isn’t to see the possibility of a crime and seek justice, but see a political target and do whatever he can to get him.
    
    Then there is the fact it’s in deep blue Manhattan and it’s Trump. Finding a untainted jury pool will be damn near impossible,
    
    This is the kind of thing you’d see in some unstable authoritarian country. Imagine you heard that a Labour lackey was saying “We don’t know that Luxon has committed a crime, but we will do whatever it takes to get him on one”, then you find out its built on the witness testimony of a guy already convicted for perjury and another who has changed her claims repeatedly, depending on whether she will get a payout or a fine.
    
    You’d think the entire political system in NZ has collapsed and the effects on the future of NZ politics would be catastrophic. You definitely wouldn’t be thinking “Well, if Luxon’s committed a crime, then no one should complain.” You’d think “They could find and get him on breaking the law, whether he actually broke the law or not.”
    
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    April 6, 2023 1:51am
- Libertarians are right
  
  34 misdemeanors that are past their statute of limitations. How can the judge justify not throwing the case out?
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:02am
  - virtualmark
    
    Maybe because they’re not past their statute of limitations?
    
    Seriously, if the charges were past their statute of limitations:
    (a) Would the DA have laid the charges? Knowing he would get laughed out of court?
    (b) Would the defence immediately point out that they were beyond the statute of limitations? And have their client walk free within minutes.
    (c) Would the Judge allow the case to even appear in their court room? Why allow something that’s just wasting your time.
    
    So maybe, just maybe, hear me out here, the charges are valid.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:21am
    - Mike
      
      Tour logic meets their belief in the innocence of their savior on the face of persecution.
      Nothing will shake their faith – the multiple delusions have become a core part of their spiritual identity.
      It is funny, but in a Sad! way.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:43am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        I despise Trump. That’s not actually relevant.
        Political prosecutions are bad regardless of who is being prosecuted.
        
        Unfortunately nothing will shake your faith that Orange Man is Bad and everything is justified – your multiple delusions have become a core part of your spiritual identity.
        It’s funny, but in a Sad! way.
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:28am
      - Mike
        
        Why can’t Libertarians are right come up with original thoughts? Is it a common deficiency in right-libertarian thinking?
        
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        April 5, 2023 12:45pm
      - virtualmark
        
        But Lib, if “political prosecutions are bad regardless” then does that mean politicians get a free pass on any crimes?
        
        Was Al Capone’s big mistake that he didn’t run for President?
        
        If the Black Power gang set up their own political party would that protect them from any prosecutions?
        
        If I want to commit a crime should I first join a political party and stand for Parliament?
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:26pm
    - Phronesis
      
      You appear to be unaware that both the DA and the Judge are Democrat political appointees.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:51am
      - virtualmark
        
        I don’t care if they were appointed by God himself with an angelic choir singing accompaniment.
        
        Put the facts in front of the court. Let the evidence speak for itself.
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:05am
      - Mike
        
        That must also mean that republican appointees cannot be trusted to be impartial. Hmm, so that must explain attorney-general Barr’s actions in the previous administration?
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:11am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      (a) yes he would because “arresting” Trump is worth it.
      (b) they have done this
      (c) because it’s political
      
      The statute of limitations for this “misdemeanor” is a couple of years. However, they are claiming that it was used to cover up a “felony” (that he was not charged over and that the alleged “cover up” didn’t stop them from investigating) and that therefore this should be treated as a felony (even though he wasn’t convicted of the “felony”) and the felony statute of limitations should be used instead.
      
      The upgrading of the misdemeanor to a felony like this isn’t actually tested in court (because it’s unequal treatment – it hasn’t been done before) but it’s a crazy position to take because to justify upgrading the misdemeanor to a felony, the thing covered up has to be a crime. This has not been proven in court so they have effectively convicted him of that felony without trial (just no penalties have been applied).
      
      Note that it’s actually quite likely that the jury will convict and he will miss out on the election while waiting for his appeal. The timing works very well for the Democrats in that respect.
      
      Sadly, this kind of thing does happen. Remember the Cardinal Pell case in Australia where the Supreme Court threw it out and didn’t let it go back to the State Court which would have been the usual result because their objectivity and reasoning were so tainted? How about the DC FISA warrant case where the guy was let off by the jury despite admitting he did it in court?
      
      You have way too much faith in the US justice system.
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:24am
      - virtualmark
        
        Well let’s see them make that argument in front of the judge and see how it goes. And if they don’t like the judge’s decision on it then they can appeal.
        
        I have enough faith in the transparency of the US justice system that if a verdict is clearly wrong on the evidence then that will be apparent.
        
        Personally I doubt that Trump will do any time for these Manhattan charges, even if found guilty. Probably a fine. Possibly a ban from doing business in New York.
        
        But politically this and the other charges likely coming down the pipe will torpedo his Presidential ambitions. Sure, the rabid Trump supporters (you know who you are) will still fawn over poor persecuted Donald. But the polls and surveys say that the independent voters are tired of the chaos and insanity that surrounds Trump. To them Biden is boring and old, but he’s calm and drama free. Independents have no interest in going back to Trump.
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:02pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Although … the one thing that could lead Trump to doing time in connection with these charges is if he keeps saying inflammatory things about the judge.
        
        Earlier today Don Jr posted a photo of the judge’s daughter.
        
        Then when Trump was back at Mar-a-Lardo he went off about the Trump-hating judge with the Trump-hating wife and the Trump-hating family. Dude, you have the right to remain silent. If you keep saying stupid stuff like that about the guy who’s going to decide your guilt then, first, it’ll be a gag order and then, second, when you breach that gag order it’s Rikers.
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:11pm
      - marcw
        
        He posted a news article which included a picture of the judge’s daughter – not a photo of the daughter. The article was about the daughter in 2020, while she was working for the election campaign of Kamala Harris. Context is important.
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:13pm
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Ah, so that’s how Bragg did it.
        Basically, the indictment doesn’t technically need to include the crime that he was covering up and because it’s not there the judge couldn’t rule on it and had to let it go to trial. Obviously incredibly unethical from Bragg but not really a surprise.
        This allows the case to go forward right when Trump’s running for the GOP Primary.
        
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        April 5, 2023 1:33pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Lib,
        
        I recommend reading https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opinion/donald-trump-alvin-bragg-indictment-charges.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
        
        It clearly lays out how these charges fit within New York law. Some key quotes, for those who won’t read the article:
        
        “Mr. Trump […] is the 30th defendant to be indicted on false records charges by Mr. Bragg since he took office just over a year ago, with the D.A. bringing 151 counts under the statute so far. ”
        
        “New York prosecutors regularly charge felony violations of the books and records statute — and win convictions — when the crimes covered up were campaign finance violations, resulting in false entries in business records to conceal criminal activity.” [Then lists 3 recent cases of this]
        
        “New York appellate courts have held in a long series of cases that intent to defraud includes circumstances in which a defendant acts “for the purpose of frustrating the state’s power” to “faithfully carry out its own law.” To the extent Mr. Trump was covering up campaign contributions that violated New York law, that seems to be exactly what he did.”
        
        Note that Trump has now been indicted, but trial is not till December. It’s quite likely additional charges will be added before that December trial. Full discovery now starts, and the DA now has the ability to compel information from the likes of David Pecker, and the ability to introduce conspiracy charges if Pecker doesn’t comply. This next phase (between indictment and trial) is when witnesses often turn, because they see the real risk of being dragged into the charges if they don’t.
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:10pm
      - virtualmark
        
        marcw,
        
        Yes, understood. But irregardless of that context, do you think it’s a move that will endear Trump to the judge?
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:50pm
      - marcw
        
        I did read earlier that the Judge had not issued any gag orders, so presumably, as long as any statements issued are true, there is no problems.
        
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        April 5, 2023 3:00pm
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Virtualmark – not paying for NYTimes articles so I have to ask you the obvious question: Of the felony convictions (not the misdemeanors), how many of them coincided with convictions for the thing they were “covering up”?
        Obviously, as you pointed out, the plan is to use discovery to find the crime that was being covered up.
        
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        April 5, 2023 3:03pm
    - bco90
      
      “Maybe because they’re not past their statute of limitations?”
      
      Trump is being charges under New York Penal Law § 175.10. The statute of limitations for this is 5 years. That’s the felony. The misdemeanor (175.05) is only 2 years. The most recent payment was December 2017. Time is up already for both.
      
      “Would the DA have laid the charges?”
      
      If justice isn’t your aim, then yes. There would be lots of reasons, depending on motivation. A few come to mind right now:
      
      1) Bragg swore to prosecute Trump the day he took office, before he even knew of anything that could bring a prosecution.
      
      2) he is a Soros funded DA. Soros could tell you “Bring a prosecution against Trump and I’ll make sure you have so much money, you’ll never lose another election again”.
      
      3) if we do this, and he isn’t convicted, it will guarantee that Trump is the GOP candidate. We don’t even have to worry about DeSantis. We’ve already beaten him before, so we can do it again.
      
      4) If the prosecution fails, we can blame the corrupt and broken justice system. The whole media will back us up on that. Bragg is guaranteed to win reelection.
      
      They really don’t have much to lose here. The corrupt political targeting wont matter. All Trump has to do in response is make some exaggerated comment and the whole media, and half the country will blame Trump and the GOP for the collapse of the political system.
      
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      April 6, 2023 2:08am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    Two points.
    
    1. Past the statute of limitations is not the same as not guilty.
    
    2. All are equal under the law.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:07am
    - Mike
      
      1. True, although as explained above the statute of limitations argument is irrelevant in this case.
      2. A fine principle, but seldom observed.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:14am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        1. No it isn’t. The judge is just willing to have it tested in court. Bragg has to prove both that the crime was committed and the justification for waiving the statute of limitations was reasonable.
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:32am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  From the comments:
  DA Bragg should Indict himself! LOL.
  https://twitter.com/alx/status/1643053231591813121
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:21am
Widogast Corwin

There is a cricket series underway in Lincoln that has received zero coverage. Australia A and New Zealand A are playing two four day matches.

The first match was terrific. New Zealand A chased down 365 on the final day to win.

Result
Australia A vs NZ A, 1st Unofficial Test
Australia A tour of New Zealand

AUS-A 370/6d & 218/2d
NZ-A 224 & 365/7
NZ A won by 3 wickets

Result
Australia A vs NZ A, 1st Unofficial Test
Australia A tour of New Zealand

AUS-A 370/6d & 218/2d
NZ-A 224 & 365/7
NZ A won by 3 wickets

Click here to view more @espncricinfo : https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-a-in-new-zealand-2023-1365973/new-zealand-a-vs-australia-a-1st-unofficial-test-1365976/live-cricket-score

Match 2 starts on Saturday. It is a beautiful oval. You won’t need to worry about crowds. On Sunday there were 15 people in the crowd.
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April 5, 2023 8:09am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I had missed that match & series completely – tx WC. There are some really good players there, well worth getting along to if you’re local & have the time.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:32am
- mandk
  
  Your last sentence neatly explains the first.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:44am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    I only found out about it by accident. I was browsing Cricinfo and spotted the scorecard.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:24am
  - Mike
    
    Also, folk in Canterbury are famously ignorant of sporting matters. And those who might have been clever enough to keep informed of these matches have long ago moved north as economic refugees.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:16am
    - kisekiman
      
      Not a Crusaders fan then?
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:02am
Maggy Wassilieff

The Minister of Justice’s Fiancee failed to be appointed to a job on Morning Report, so packed her bags and left the organization.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/300773313/rnz-presenter-mni-dunlop-to-leave-the-broadcaster-in-2023

The Minister of Justice delivered a broadside at RNZ, then reality hit.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018884637/minister-kiri-allan-apologises-for-comments-at-rnz-event

Sometimes folks don’t get appointed to the jobs they want… perhaps its bad luck, bad timing, or they’re not suitable for the job, or a better candidate gets the job.

Perhaps Kiri Allan needs to see how things work in the real world and not assume that everything is to do with race politics.
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April 5, 2023 8:13am
- All_on_Red
  
  Poor Snowflake. Must have been quite the shock to learn she wasn’t as special as she thought.
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:29am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Maybe. I thought that Mani Dunlop came across well when she filled in on Morning Report, and as she was a regular host on Midday Report, RNZ clearly rate her.
    
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    April 5, 2023 8:34am
  - backster
    
    And she had to stay home and do the housework.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:37am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Perhaps Kiri Allan needs to see how things work in the real world and not assume that everything is to do with race politics.’
  
  There is a pattern and it’s not just those who self identify as Maoris who push the race thing relentlessly.
  
  Yesterday on HDPA she played a clip of Verrals , in reply to a question in the House , baldly stating that the health system was so racist that Maoris were dropped off treatment lists for the simple reason of being Maori .
  
  That is an incredible claim and the Opposition really needs to go after it ansd te media pardy too .
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:31am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Oh, it’s Verrals now, just like Keys and Hoskins.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:13am
    - Nickc2
      
      If you are trying to make a derogatory statement, at least get the names right. It’s Key and Hosking FFS.
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:22am
      - kowtow
        
        Capt Mainwaring fought the Nazis , this guy has joined the Pedant Nazis.
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:28am
      - leoj
        
        ……right over your head…..
        
        Phew!
        
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        April 5, 2023 10:55am
      - Ghost
        
        You do realise all captain is doing is pointing out the mistake that kowtow has made?
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:25am
    - kowtow
      
      zzzzzzz
      
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      April 5, 2023 9:27am
  - Nickc2
    
    Verral’s [Verrall please. mod.] no different from her predecessor. She’s all bullshit and bluster. The only thing in her favour is Hipkins can’t define her gender.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:39am
    - Nickc2
      
      Inconsistent there Mod. Check out Captain Mainwaring & 9:13AM. That’s where I copied and pasted it from.
      
      [Mod – Captain Mainwaring has shown a mistake that the poster above him has made]
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:20am
- Paulus
  
  Dunlop’s appointment could be called nepotistic, after the event.
  But never for Labour !
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:46am
Maggie Pie

‘To be honest, I have always secretly admired John Campbell’s kinder, gentler, interviewing style. Last night even Kate suggested I should take a leaf out of John’s playbook next time I speak with Chippie’

– Mike Hosking 1ZB

WATCH (pause @4sec)

https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1643158462392565760
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April 5, 2023 8:20am
- RoboRob
  
  Campbell was only kinder and gentler when interviewing people he was a fan of. He spent 6mths daily slamming Key and National for the homeless crisis but the minute Labour came in he stopped, never to be heard of again. At that moment he showed his true colours.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:17am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Remember when JC was axed from TV3?
    After 24 years there, all he got when he left… ‘was a shitty bunch of flowers’
    LOL!!
    
    Campbell-Live was replaced by a local series of ‘Come Dine With Me’
    
    Ratings soared!! 😀
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:45am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Oh, go and look at his Twitter feed. One of many state-funded lackeys who retweeted in support of the violence perpetrated by anti-free speech, trans-activists on 25/3.
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:56am
- Matt Long
  
  Shit Maggie, how about a content warning, I was expecting to see Hosking, not too washed out leftists dry humping.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:59am
- Rich Prick
  
  😵‍💫😵‍💫🤢🤢🤮🤮
  
  10 seconds was all I could take.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:16am
Maggy Wassilieff

In the years to come don’t wonder why vast tracts of former farmland are covered in pine trees…..

The owners of the land won’t tell you……

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131679612/new-ets-plan-concerns-mori-leaders-but-gagging-order-stops-them-talking-about-it
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April 5, 2023 8:22am
CAKE FACE1

I looked at a New Zealand $10 banknote today.

It features some old-fashioned woman. They’re the ones with wombs. She’s a dinosaur. I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks. They’re as good as gold. I love them.

One of the new women should replace the old-fashioned woman on the $10 banknote. But who to choose?

I suggest that the obvious choice for a new woman on the $10 banknote should be our Young New Zealander of the Year, Shaneel Lal.

Who wants to sign my petition to change the banknote?

*Apologies to Ricky Gervais for adapting his joke…
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April 5, 2023 8:25am
- CAKE FACE1
  
  Gervais jokes about trans:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WID6w4_gtwo
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:14am
- Nickc2
  
  May as well, ten dollar bank notes don’t buy much these days.
  I used to put ten dollars of petrol in my car and it would last a week (circa 1960s)
  Now, the service station’s bowser doesn’t even tick over for ten dollars (well, some anyway). //
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:56am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I often think how silly it is for me to offer to pay for a handle of Speights with a $10 note that features a radical temperence wowser.
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:52pm
ClanMcleod

Everywhere in the world there at least are the beginnings of some honest regarding the lie that was sold to the public – the “safe and effective” jab.

The Fiercest Vaccine Advocates Are Starting To Admit The Truth About The mRNAs

An excellent article demonstrating how even the staunchest jab advocates are now heavily watering down or dumping their support for this failed experiment.
In NZ? Get your booster.

We live in clown world.
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April 5, 2023 8:26am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Link?
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:35am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Apologies, was on my phone.
    
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/berenson-fiercest-vaccine-advocates-are-starting-admit-truth-about-mrnas
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:39am
- Phronesis
  
  From the NY Times article that is referenced:
  
  A one-size-fits-all approach may not work. Americans are “diverse in our age, we’re diverse in our risk, we’re diverse in our perceptions of risk,” said Dr. Ofer Levy, director of the precision vaccines program at Boston Children’s Hospital and an adviser to the F.D.A.
  …
  “Given the lack of data, I don’t think it’s fair to say to people, ‘Inject yourself with a biological agent,’” said Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and an adviser to the F.D.A.
  
  “It’s incumbent upon them when they make recommendations to show the data on which that recommendation is based,” Dr. Offit said of federal health officials. “Otherwise, they’re just saying, ‘Trust us.’”
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/health/covid-booster-older-immunocompromised.html
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:41am
  - Phronesis
    
    Of course it’s not so much the content that’s interesting here or even the qualifications of those being quoted. What’s interesting is that this is in the NY Times.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:04am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Phronesis – let the jersey changing continue. Also the fact that both experts quoted were formerly among the staunchest proponents of this garbage, deadly experiment.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:24am
I remember when

Has the Labour Government become the biggest ‘apology’ for a government ever.
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April 5, 2023 8:34am
Maggy Wassilieff

Christopher Luxon discusses arrogant and entitled Labour folk.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/national-leader-christopher-luxon-calls-for-kiri-allan-to-focus-on-fighting-crime-after-criticising-rnz.html
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April 5, 2023 8:36am
- Matt Long
  
  I think folk are failing to realise that nepotism is in fact a highly valued cultural treasure under te ao Maori and it’s racist not to promote it. (For Maori only of course. )
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:02am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Here’s Tariana Turia defending it.
    
    https://management.co.nz/article/economics-nepotism-kinship
    
    They call it something else, which makes all the difference, apparently.
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:45pm
    - Ehlana
      
      The article makes a couple of very good points. Nepotism in the state sector is a problem because people outside the kinship group pay taxes to fund the state and have no way to opt out of paying them if the kinship group doesn’t deliver for us.
      
      Second, cultural factors do affect economic behaviour. If Maori in general are to benefit from the resources they are receiving from Treaty settlements, they need to consider explicitly what their cultural drivers are and how to balance these against the attitudes and behaviours necessary to maximise returns on their investments.
      
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      April 5, 2023 4:19pm
kowtow

Good , hard hitting piece in interset.co about our very own swamp.

”Nash and our political leaders are laughing at us from behind their carefully-cultivated Everyman personas.

‘Don’t let the low-key sunglasses that Chris Hipkins’ sports fool you. He has been in Parliament as an MP since 2008 and before that was an advisor to ministers and even former prime minister Helen Clark. He is Parliament’s everyman.”

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/120627/prime-minister-gaslighting-us-stuart-nash-scandal
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April 5, 2023 8:37am
- Libertarians are right
  
  He also spent time working for Labour in Aus and continued to do so as an MP in NZ.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:05am
Maggie Pie

President Donald Trump pleads NOT GUILTY to 34 misdomeanour charges….

“You Ain’t Got Nuthin!”

– Lil Wayne

😀 😀 😀
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April 5, 2023 8:38am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, CNN will be pretty much starved of Trump news until he reappears in December. Will they survive?
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:38am
- Che Guava
  
  Is there a Trump mugshot yet? That will be some seriously effective iconography and perfect campaign material right there.
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:09pm
  - Mike
    
    The authorities declined to require one, so the Trump campaign has faked one to sell as merch to the credulous suckers.
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:50pm
    - Che Guava
      
      Oh, thanks. The authorities and myself are obviously on the same wavelength then. The fact that they have “declined to require one” really gives us–if we are sufficiently perceptive–a great insight into their true motivations and the actual reality of Trump, and his relationship both to “the authorities” and to the American public, a reality that lies behind the concocted media messages and characterisations that someone of your capacity ingests like water.
      
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      April 5, 2023 1:10pm
Its only I

So not only did Hipkins shit on women yesterday he did it because he was scared of the rainbow mafia..the leader of NZ, would rather be an enabler and take a dump on the face of a $10 note than deal with the trans terrorists.
That is what your voting for with Labour and its lefty fattening farm, the Green party..

No worries for Labour though, the Ion brothers are always ready to step up. Bill and Mill Ion, get those two on the job meeting and greeting everyone, the election is as good as won.
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April 5, 2023 8:41am
Grunter

Clown world indeed.

Pfizer knew from their clinical trials that the all-cause mortality of the vaccine group was 23% higher than the all-cause mortality of the placebo group. And what do we have today currently running in the US for excess mortality? 23%. NZ is around +16%. All developed (jabbed) countries are in double digits for all-cause mortality.

But hey – keep jabbing folks!

https://mobile.twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1641939084074446849
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April 5, 2023 8:43am
mandk

“But hey – keep jabbing folks!”

In the meantime, let’s forget to vaccinate our kids with attenuated antigens that really are safe and effective.
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April 5, 2023 9:13am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Indeed. A measles epidemic is just around the corner.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    An outbreak of whooping cough is already here.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018884646/third-baby-dies-from-whooping-cough-as-vaccination-rates-drop
    
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    April 5, 2023 9:39am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      Yeah – sadly many parents have become triggered by the word “vaccine”. They have taken the phone off the hook. So babies are not receiving vaccines with a 50 year track record of success.
      
      Look at this guy – invented the oral polio vaccine. Changed the world. Refused to patent his invention so everyone could access it.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Sabin
      
      Compare him to the pharma companies that have made tens of billions out of a “vaccine” that doesn’t work.
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:35am
      - Matt Long
        
        If an investment, policy or product is good it doesn’t need to be “sold” to its victims.
        People actually seek it out.
        If it needs to be mandated you have to know it’s dodgy as anything.
        
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        April 5, 2023 12:17pm
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        Indeed – you would not have found a parent stopping their kids getting a polio vaccine in the early 1960s. They would have seen it as a miracle after watching friends and family members devastated for decades.
        
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        April 5, 2023 2:46pm
- kowtow
  
  yep , yet another of many , consequences of their irrational ,un necessary lockdowns.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:26am
- ClanMcleod
  
  mandk – I must admit, since the total disaster of Covid that Ardern, Hipkins and Bloomfield foisted on a mostly unsuspecting public, I’ve been taking a closer look at other vaccines in the schedule.
  No, I’m not talking about the ones that have been around for many decades, MMR, but it seems that every 2 years another jab is added to the schedule.
  There are now NINE.
  
  diphtheria
  tetanus
  polio
  whooping cough (pertussis)
  pneumococcal
  rotavirus
  haemophilus influenzae type b
  measles
  mumps
  rubella
  chickenpox (varicella)
  
  That doesn’t include the HPV and the covid failure which they are also pushing on our children. HPV has alarming signals coming out about it. the covid jab is a complete failure.
  
  Our daughter has had the first 9, she won’t be getting anything else stuck in her body until she’s an adult and can make that well informed decision for herself.
  On that note, she won’t be getting any puberty blockers or bits chopped off either.
  The loss of trust and destruction of our social fabric by Ardern and her clown show is breathtaking in scope and scale.
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:56am
  - jp_1983
    
    Hi there,
    measles, mumps, rubella is delivered in one shot at once.
    You cant seperate them out. – (rubella was 10th on the list)
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:32am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      jp_1983
      
      I know, it’s why I referenced MMR in the first paragraph. I just copied and pasted the full list from one of the MoH websites.
      Funnily enough, I had a tetanus shot after getting a hook through my leg. Apparently it is combined with other shots.
      
      Tetanus vaccine as a single antigen is no longer available in New Zealand. >b>It is only available in combination with other vaccines.
      
      The tetanus toxoid-containing vaccines funded as part of the Schedule are:
      
      DTaP-IPV-HepB/Hib (Infanrix-hexa, GSK): diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis, inactivated polio, hepatitis B and Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine
      DTaP-IPV (Infanrix-IPV, GSK): diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis and inactivated polio vaccine
      Tdap (Boostrix, GSK): a lower adult dose of diphtheria and pertussis vaccine, together with tetanus vaccine.
      
      Also, the shot won’t stop you getting tetanus after you’ve cut yourself.
      
      Tetanus immunisation protects by stimulating the production of antitoxin, providing immunity against the effects of the toxin. It does not prevent C. tetani growing in a contaminated wound.
      
      https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/immunisation-handbook-2020/20-tetanus#:~:text=It%20is%20only%20available%20in,Haemophilus%20influenzae%20type%20b%20vaccine
      
      So whatever happened to “informed consent”? If I had been given the above information I would never have had the bloody thing.
      Bastards. My trust in the health services in this country is completely shredded. No wonder confidence is falling rapidly in all areas of “service” provided by these clowns.
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:00am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    I would encourage you to reconsider. AFAIK all of the vaccines on that list are decades old. The newest is the rotavirus vaccine and it is 20 + years old.
    
    You don’t want your child catching anything on that list.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:39am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Widogan – she’s had them all except HPV and of course, the covid shit. Bu what I’m pointing out is that I now look at EVERYTHING I’ve been told by these people over decades and reconsidering.
      That isn’t my fault, that is their fault for destroying trust.
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:16am
  - Inandout
    
    CM, the radio ads for boosters and flu vaccines are heavily run. Fishers and panel beater males implore us to get the vaccine for ‘the whanau’. Of course they are actors but we are reminded of the scary days of Covid when the propaganda was wall to wall.
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:03pm
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      It works on some folk. A colleague today got his 5th dose of the COVID vaccine. Honestly if 4 won’t help you why will a 5th?
      
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      April 5, 2023 2:48pm
Rusty

So Chippie thinks that the definition of a woman is a identity choice and not a biological fact?

Every woman/female in this country – wives, mums, grannies, aunts, daughters, baby girls are not really what they appear to be in Hipkins and the loony lefts definition of a woman!

How did we ever go down this illogical, irrational, and delusional road in the first place on what a woman is in the year 2023?

Nzers better start waking up to this, because it could get much worse where it could be a crime to say a woman is defined by biology and not choice.
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April 5, 2023 9:23am
- Nickc2
  
  Well said!
  
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  April 5, 2023 9:32am
- Phronesis
  
  Someone should ask Chippy how he knows he’s a man. It’s a much harder question for him to answer because he can’t just say it’s about how someone else feels.
  
  He should be asked specifically what it is about himself that causes him to identify as a man. If he has no answer then it would be legitimate to question if he really is a man… (by his own logic)
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:10am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  “….because it could get much worse where it could be a crime to say a woman is defined by biology and not choice..”
  
  Indeed – if we ever get a Green-Labour Government expect the hate speech laws to be resumed on steroids. “Misgendering” will be on the list of hate speech crimes.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:41am
- Ehlana
  
  I think you’ll find implying that female gender is a choice is also offensive. They “are women”, after all; it’s not “choose to identify as women”.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:42am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Vote Labour yo keep the greens out
  
  #fuck2020
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:10am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

With the current chair of the IPCA, Judge Colin Doherty, about to retire at this end of the month, let’s hope his replacement (set to be announced by Justice Minister Kiri Allan for a 5 year term from May 1st) has a real understanding and empathy with those front-line Police officers, and the danger they face on a daily basis, while doing their best to keep law-abiding citizens safe in this country with what few tools they have.

So here’s looking at you Judge Kenneth Johnson (KC).
The ‘thin-blue-line’ needs all the backing & support they can get.
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April 5, 2023 9:29am
I remember when

The extensive advertising encouraging Maori to belatedly complete the Census must raise a difficult question.
What convinces Labour, Te Pati Maori and the Greens that co-governance would benefit New Zealand.
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April 5, 2023 9:36am
- Ehlana
  
  Makes me wonder if the Maori population has been hugely overstated – it defies belief that anyone hasn’t already heard about the census and completed it if they are ever going too. Maybe the missing people never actually existed?
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:43am
Swifty

More white cis-male violence!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/starship-hospital-baby-death-tipene-te-ahuru-accused-of-killing-3-month-old-son/FMBLCCIBPBEOBMCKO5RWY2MC44/
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April 5, 2023 9:37am
BeaB

Radio NZ has been taken over by bogans with their gidday mate lingo. It gets painful, along with silly giggling over trivia and obsession with Trump while we await some serious news, delivered with clarity and skill.
Mani Dunlop spoke in an annoyingly singsong voice, stumbled over long words or when she had to read out loud, emphasised the wrong words like prepositions and auxiliary verbs to the extent of distorting the sense and showed a shallow grasp of history or any substantive knowledge. She too did far too much silly giggling during what should have been a flagship news programme.
Her Te Reo may have been good but I cannot judge that that as along with the vast majority of the listeners, I am guessing, I stop listening until English is spoken again and I can understand what is being said.
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April 5, 2023 9:37am
- thirteenstars
  
  “Her Te Reo may have been good but I cannot judge that…”
  
  A good point. The woman on one of those breakfast shows (which I accidentally see from time to time) with the moko, reels off the reo with apparent ease but when she speaks for any length of time in English her diction is poor and she often stumbles.
  
  Reminds me of my high school German teacher who informed the class we were being taught “High German” which referred to the mode of speaking, choice of construction and accent. Took me years to learn that what she meant was we were learning the language as if we were to the manor born, not a bunch of Trevs from the backblocks. Of course we had no idea about all that but to native Germans it would have been as obvious as us listening to Rees-Mogg versus some Cockney larrikin.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:11am
  - Matt Long
    
    Apparently the Swiss speak high German .
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:25pm
- Mike
  
  You shouldn’t listen to the radio if it upsets you so much.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:18am
I remember when

The new normal:
Upsetting all women and much of the rest of the population so that a small unknown number are not.
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April 5, 2023 9:48am
Rusty

Does anyone know how to get rid of these pop-up adds on my KB page?

They are irritating and make it hard to read and use the comments box.

Opening them up is no help to cancel them.
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April 5, 2023 9:52am
- Matt Long
  
  Use an ad blocker or switch to a browser like duck duck go.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:09am
  - Rusty
    
    @Matt, thanks I will try it.
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Adblock Plus. Says I can’t see 11 ads atm.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:38am
slightlyrighty

Regardless of what you think of Ardern, and personally speaking, I have a very low opinion of her capability, her conduct immediately post the Mosque Shooting was handled well. Putting a Macchiavellian spin on it, it certainly raised her profile to stratospheric levels.

That being said, this was the highlight of her time as PM. Think about that. 5 Years in the top job, and the best you can show for it is how you responded after a massacre.

If it wasn’t for the act of a mad gunman, her legacy would be less than nothing.
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April 5, 2023 10:00am
- Phronesis
  
  Wearing a headscarf in solidarity with all of those blokes who beat muslim women to death for not wearing headscarves.
  
  “I felt admiration that a prominent leader and women in New Zealand showed compassion to the Muslim community, but I also felt that you are using one of the most visible symbols of oppression for Muslim women in many countries for solidarity, and it also broke my heart,” said Alinejad.
  
  “That is why I call on them to show their sisterhood and solidarity with us, who are being beaten up, imprisoned and punished for fighting against compulsory hijab as well.”
  
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-newzealand-shootout-headscarves-idUSKCN1R71Q9
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:17am
I remember when

Kapiti Observer:
Staff shortages and high demand have suffocated Wellington’s ability to give patients MRI and CT scans.
The region has limped to as little as a third of the national targets.
Target – 90% get MRI scan within 42 days: 95% within 42 days for CT scans.
Actual results – low point August 2022 with 16% for MRI and 23% for CT scans.
February 2023 – 36% for MRI and 57% for CT scans.
Other regions – 11 regions failed to reach the target for MRI at any time last year and 10 didn’t reach the CT target at all.
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April 5, 2023 10:15am
Maggie Pie

From the “WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW” file 😀

Magda Szubanski, star of the fab ‘Kath & Kim’ ozzie television series, was the face of Dan Andrews Victorian government’s COVID-19 good health messaging campaign back in 2020….

https://twitter.com/RIGPIG888/status/1643215001291997185
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April 5, 2023 10:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh F***
  
  that’s really sad…
  
  It looked like she was starting to get a handle on matters last year.
  
  https://www.who.com.au/magda-szubanski-weight-loss-journey
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:16am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes, very sad. Looks like her bums moved to the front as well.
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:26am
ClanMcleod

The very intelligent and normally ever so politely spoke Eugyppius, commenting on the failure of the mRNA experiment.

Another day, another loss for the mRNA jabs, as old-fashioned live attenuated virus vaccines are shown to provide superior immunity in hamsters
The bright and shiny new technology is not always the way. Fuck everybody who said otherwise.

Virus genes are instructions that tell the infected cell how to assemble other virions. There are optimal ways to write these instructions, and there are suboptimal ways to write them. When you give the virus deoptimised codon pairs, it is like sending the host cell very bad IKEA instructions for the assembly of its new viral furniture.

The same researchers, working as part of a much larger team, have now gotten Syrian hamsters to snort their attenuated sCPD9 virus, to see how it might work as a live attenuated vaccine virus.

There is a lot that one could type in response to this absurdity, and although I have had more than my fair share of scotches this evening (entertaining a girlfriend’s relatives), I will endeavour to cycle through three points:

1) I am never snorting any SARS-2 vaccine ever.

2) Also too though, it is dumb that we are still testing vaccines against a virus which has long since become a threat equivalent to the common cold.

3) Furthermore, I find it embarrassing that the allegedly knowledgeable and wise vaccinator gurus who rule us, had to go directly for the shiny new mRNA toy technology – which has proven itself to be total shit – while failing to pursue literally any other path.

Indeed.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/another-day-another-loss-for-the
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April 5, 2023 10:21am
I remember when

Sir Ashley Bloomfield has had his double Flu/covid jab presumably to encourage the hesitant.

Good old Ash, taking one for the team.
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April 5, 2023 10:22am
- kevn
  
  @I rem… More like a saline jab, he’s not that stupid.
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:28am
- Che Guava
  
  Is “monkey see, monkey do” a valid scientific principle?
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:03pm
  - Phronesis
    
    It’s not normally phrased in those terms but it is more or less what a lot of bench science amounts to. Slight variations on a theme without ever asking if the methodology is any good in the first place.
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:57pm
    - Che Guava
      
      Sure, but I really meant that “expert X” being seen to be doing a particular thing isn’t really an argument that justifies other people doing that thing. It’s theatre and a form of psychological suggestion, which is typically a substitute for a rational case.
      
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      April 5, 2023 1:32pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Based on what I know about the vaccine, I hope he keeps taking them twice a year and continues to be a shining example to us all. Along with Ardern, Baker, Hopkins and every other “expert” who caused this disaster.
  
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  April 6, 2023 8:02am
Liberty

Finally, a teacher with fortitude.
Gives his students a life lesson.
Instead of pulling up their socks. and moving on.
The wimps run off to facebook.
These little darlings will, at some stage, leave their closeted life.
A few will get a pandered life in the civil service. For the majority,
their real life won’t be nice and kind, and they must work bloody hard or fail.
In years to come, these students will thank this teacher.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300847144/nelson-teacher-swears-at-students-after-they-take-an-hour-to-do-fing-nothing
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April 5, 2023 10:24am
- MCōs
  
  This is real life.
  I was sitting on my deck one day when the Asian family across the road came home from somewhere.
  They all got out of the car and the father starts yelling at his eldest son.
  As soon as the father disappeared into the house the eldest son started yelling at the next one down.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:42am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You’d never see anything like that in our hood Cossie 😀
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I disagree..
  
  Teachers swearing at a class of students and telling them that they’re useless whilst they’re endeavouring to do a “useless” task is NOT the way to teach.
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:19am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  a teacher with fortitude.
  
  I think he’s a bully.
  
  There’s a clear power imbalance involved.
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:33am
- Ghost
  
  No, an adult who is in the wrong occupation if he can’t control his anger around students.
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:38am
- NothingLeft
  
  Good
  
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  April 5, 2023 3:48pm
MCōs

Donald Trump Jnr never struck me as being particularly bright
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1643339805147779072?s=61&t=yFkzCNMWRCaVt1p5eRxUog
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April 5, 2023 10:25am
- Ghost
  
  Is the post not relevant that the judges daughter worked the campaign of Biden and Harris? And it’s a link to a news article, does he not have a right to post a news article?
  
  https://truthsocial.com/@DonaldJTrumpJr/posts/110141486443463477
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:38am
- Maggie Pie
  
  It was nothing new tho Cossie. All he did was re-tweet something that went viral on twitter days ago. Give the boy a break 😀
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:38am
  - MCōs
    
    If you’d posted it, well that’s one thing, but the defendant’s son did it under the lame excuse she’s worked for whoever?
    Now it’s open season on this woman.
    Now if the judge himself had once acted for someone to whom Trump owed money . . .
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:56am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      YIP! Only in America 😎
      
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      April 5, 2023 10:59am
    - Ghost
      
      The defendants son has every right to post an article, Because his father is on trial doesn’t mean he shouldn’t post it.
      
      If they want the right side to accept any outcome of this then they should have w judge with zero connections to the current administration. Otherwise the right won’t accept any judgement against trump.
      
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      April 5, 2023 11:14am
      - MCōs
        
        Whether the ‘right’ or anyone else accepts the decision of the jury is neither here nor there.
        
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        April 5, 2023 11:51am
      - Matt Long
        
        Hardly worth replying to Mcos but it doesn’t help to polarise America even further by giving non leftists an excuse for outrage like a judge with links to Trump’s enemies.
        Great for Trump though.
        
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        April 5, 2023 12:31pm
      - MCōs
        
        “Hardly worth replying to Mcos”, but you did anyway!!
        
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        April 5, 2023 4:12pm
- kowtow
  
  While Hunter’s a genius ?
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:23am
  - Phronesis
    
    Of course, why else would people keep throwing money at him?
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:59pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    The smartest person Joe knows.
    
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    April 5, 2023 1:10pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    He chose his dad very wisely.
    
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    April 5, 2023 4:41pm
- herb1
  
  Yet he’s far more successful than you . What does that tell you
  
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  April 5, 2023 3:11pm
  - Mike
    
    At what?
    
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    April 5, 2023 4:46pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/knowledge-poor-school-curriculum-blamed-for-falling-student-achievement/U4I2ESLC3RCC3GUY2O2KWQ5RC4/

Educationalists keep talking about “Te Mātaiaho” and how it will fix education. This will be a disaster that will shunt NZ into the third world.

Why are we letting Maori control how the education system should be structured and run, and dictating what should be taught?

We should be scouting the world for the nations with the best educational systems. And base ours on that!
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April 5, 2023 10:41am
- Bob
  
  But ‘Mummy’ told Chippie that it would work so well!
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:04pm
ClanMcleod

Like him or loathe him, Cam Slater’s updated post he wrote a year ago about Ardern is brilliant, accurate and should be the Wikileak page entry for that human wrecking ball which is leaving today. Thank fuck.

Jacinda Ardern.

When I had that three-hour lunch with her I came away thinking that this woman makes a lot of sound and thinks she is informed and interested about the world and politics. But on reflection, at the time, I said to David Farrar, who was also there, that she was just mouthing slogans and platitudes. Bumper-sticker slogans and rehearsed lines. There was no depth there, and there still isn’t.
She is fake, more fake than a $10 copy watch bought in the back alleys of Hong Kong.

I met her once, not for long, but I formed the same opinion within 2 minutes. At the time I had been a lifelong Labour supporter. That moment was the end of a 40 year relationship.

Like all politicians, she has claimed many, many things, about why she entered politics. She professes wanting to end child poverty – she even made herself the minister in charge of ending child poverty. She also claimed that climate change was her generation’s nuclear free moment.

On both of those claimed driving forces for her entering politics she has failed massively and comprehensively. All the child poverty statistics are either materially worse or have barely budged. Her climate change commitments are a joke. She wrecked an industry on a ‘Captain’s Call’ and then presided over the largest imports of coal we have ever seen, into a country that is sitting on huge coal reserves. Every single signature election promise has been an abject failure. She told people she was going to make houses more affordable – their cost has more than doubled. She promised to build 100,000 KiwiBuild homes, but it turned out that she couldn’t build a house in a room full of Lego. She promised light rail to the airport and has failed to lay even a single centimetre of track. None of those things are evil, but they are all dishonest and show a predilection towards failure after bold promises.

Never forget just how bad this woman actually was, and I didn’t even repeat Slater’s comments on the vicious covid policies she implemented.

Definitely worth reading the whole thing and keeping a copy as a reminder to give to people who, in years to come, will try and tell us how “amazing” she was. And share it widely.
https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/04/05/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-the-final-chapter/
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April 5, 2023 10:47am
- Che Guava
  
  True, but Slater isn’t saying anything new or anything interesting that we all didn’t already know. In a upside down world, at least we can rely on that.
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:01pm
Maggie Pie

There’s calls on Twitter for Chippie to resign after making himself look silly on the International stage….. bestie Piers Morgan is loving it 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1643251410568617984
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April 5, 2023 10:49am
- Ghost
  
  This shows the importance of the pm being allowed to phone or friend or ask the audience.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:53am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    He went for the 50/50 😀
    
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    April 5, 2023 11:01am
- Gravelroad
  
  Why would any New Zealand woman vote for a man who has no idea what a woman is?
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:02am
  - Bob
    
    Out of curiosity about such an ill-informed uneducated individual!!
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:01pm
- Matt Long
  
  It’s great how the Labour party continues to get so much free publicity for New Zealand.
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:34pm
  - Jack5
    
    Free publicity? They are spending tens of millions on subsidising non-State media, that is, the media the State doesn’t own outright.
    
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    April 5, 2023 10:48pm
BeaB

She wasted our time and squandered our money.
Even her response to Covid and the mosque tragedy largely depended on millions of dollars spent on PR , advertising and strategic advice.
If Prince William wants a figurehead he has one. If he wants someone to get things done efficiently and economically, he’s made the wrong choice.
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April 5, 2023 11:03am
- kowtow
  
  They’re ramping up the spend on firearms registration . Something that has failed spectacularly in other jurisdictions.
  This is going to be a waste of tens of millions of $ that the country simply doesn’t have.
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:04pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/furious-auckland-couple-take-radical-action-to-stop-co-governance-were-printing-20000-copies-of-julian-batchelors-book-to-reach-our-neighbours-and-hope-that-theyl/

The Stop Co-Governance Roadtour. Register to be informed of where.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/2023-nz-stop-co-governance-tour/
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April 5, 2023 11:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Tane Tupuna writes to ACC’s Claudia Wyss.
  Seems she has a strong Political and Racist Agenda.
  
  Ngapuhi Elder Slams Auckland Council’s Ms Wyss
  Dear Ms Wyss.
  I wish to return your attention to the cancelation of Mr Batchelor’s meeting.
  That cancelation and the way you went about it and your justification were not acceptable.
  As a counselor it is your job to facilitate and enable community discussion.
  Mr Batchelor is presenting alternate views on Governance. Ideally the Government itself including ACC would be doing this but unfortunately they are not. Sadly the Government has misled us all on Co Governance, and we deserve to hear all of the views on this subject. The Government has repeatedly said that there is nothing to fear. I disagree. A little while ago the Waitangi tribunal recommended to the Government that they give back all land from Rienga to Devonport to Ngapuhi. Maori Politicians have reinforced that with statements that this will include all privately owned land as well. Just last week the Waitangi tribunal recommended to Government that they invest in a special Mountain talker to talk to Mount Taranaki to listen to its troubles. And yet they say we have nothing to fear?? Are you kidding me ?
  Fear of co Governance is deep in every New Zealander and both local and central Government need to make strong efforts to address this fear, and to rationalize the entire Co Governance drivel.
  Why have you supported the Aotearoa Liberation League(ALL)? On the one hand you cancelled Mr Bachelors meeting at extremely short notice, with lame excuses, and yet you facilitated an ALL meeting outside the hall. Why does ALL receive support from Government orgs like ACC, and PSA, and Central Government ? ALL is just a bunch of young lay bouts, infiltrated by well-known off shore trouble makers who specialize in disrupting meetings.
  You are on record as saying you cancelled the meeting for safety reasons and that is a major road with heavy traffic, yet you facilitated an ALL meeting on the grass outside the hall – even more dangerous one would think?
  Ms Wyss. It appears to me that you have a strong political and racist agenda. You are no use to any race or group when you have a biased agenda. If you are not able to conduct yourself in a fair and unbiased manner, then clearly you are not fit for the high positions you hold. Unless you can uphold basic rights in the community, such as Free speech for all, then you are clearly unfit for the job.
  
  Tane Tupuna
  Ngapuhi.
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:16am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Poor Donald Trump.
The lefties and the leftist media wanted to see Trump arrested, with handcuffs, fingerprinted and a mugshot. They missed out.
So did Trump. He wanted to use the media for his 2024 campaign.
Media videoing his 757 was good, with “TRUMP” plastered down the side.
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April 5, 2023 11:23am
- Inandout
  
  SO, you can buy a t-shirt with mug shot if you want. He charges $47.
  
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  April 5, 2023 3:20pm
  - Mike
    
    Steve probably can’t wait till benefit day to come round so he can buy more merch to support his poor persecuted savior.
    
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    April 5, 2023 4:05pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Helen Clark is shifting the narrative for Labour..

Ardern told us she resigned as PM because she ran out of gas…

Helen Clark states that Ardern resigned because of the hatred aimed at her.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/487377/jacinda-ardern-s-legacy-more-than-just-covid-19

Clearly the latter will be the story Labour will continue to spin….
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April 5, 2023 11:24am
- Bob
  
  Comrade Clark was pulling the strings of the Adern puppet.
  
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  April 5, 2023 11:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Leaders like Jacinda don’t come along too often and we’ve lost one.”
  Well H1 is dead right there. I have never see a person wreck a country so fast.
  
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  April 5, 2023 1:19pm
Ghost

Interesting read of the Trump Indictment. It would appear it has happened when he was president and not running the company

https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf
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April 5, 2023 11:28am
Maggie Pie

‘John Key seemed to suffer from a convenient loss of memory during his last year as Prime Minister’

– Kerry Woodham. 1ZB@11:08am

LOL!!!
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April 5, 2023 11:30am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump’s VPOTUS. Marjorie Taylor-Green or Kari Lake?

https://spreely.video/v/2723942639/Get-Like-Marjorie-Taylor-Greene—Trump-Rally-Texas

https://thegoptimes.com/donald-trump-vp-pick-leaked-2/
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April 5, 2023 11:43am
- Mike
  
  First things first – Trump needs to get the nomination before choosing a VP candidate.
  People are saying that Ron de Sanctimonious is favored by many to be the nominee.
  But young Marjorie would be a fine pick:
  
  Hundreds of Trump supporters, counterprotestors, and members of the press gathered outside the courthouse on Tuesday morning; brief remarks denouncing the prosecution were delivered from a park bench by Republican Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, an ally of the ex-president’s who is perhaps best publicly known for having written on Facebook in 2018 that forest fires in California were started by a laser fired from space at the behest of the Jewish Rothschild family.
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:57pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mike, MTG is an extreme right wing terrorist to some Dems/
    
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    April 5, 2023 1:22pm
    - Mike
      
      She’s just a crackpot, that’s all.
      
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      April 5, 2023 4:07pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Is this the final LIE?

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/ardern-says-fear-of-losing-election-didn-t-lead-to-resignation-admits-thinking-standing-down-might-take-heat-out-of-debate/ar-AA19rvd1
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April 5, 2023 11:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Not the final lie at all…
  we’re being fed a diet of Ardern deceits at the moment…
  
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  April 5, 2023 1:46pm
cmm

NZ wide cellphone coverage has “obvious safety benefits”.
Bullshit.
There are already all the safety comms you need in PLBs etc.

Anyone not carrying a PLB on tramps etc is a bloody moron and does not deserve to be rescued.

Cellphones will just add Tiktok numpties to the backcountry.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/131693093/going-off-grid-a-thing-of-the-past-trampers-unsure-if-nz-wide-cell-coverage-a-help-or-hindrance
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April 5, 2023 11:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I always have a cellphone for backup on the boat, but more important is a working VHF and a Coastguard callsign.
  
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  April 5, 2023 12:07pm
  - mawm
    
    What! No out of date flares and an EPIRB that hasn’t been checked for years? (That costs almost half the purchase price). //
    
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    April 5, 2023 5:27pm
Ghost

Wow, Andrew Little has said something sensible for once

A senior cabinet minister says no matter the situation – whether it’s in Parliament, at a partner’s farewell or even the supermarket – you are always a minister.

Speaking to Newstalk ZB’s Mike Hosking on Justice Minister Kiri Allan’s critical remarks about RNZ at fiancee Māni Dunlop’s farewell, Defence Minister Andrew Little said as a minister one had to always realise “whatever context you are in you are a minister.

“That’s the way people see you and when I am in the supermarket people stop and talk to me – I am a minister when they are talking to me regardless.

“We’ve all got to bear that in mind,” Little said.

NZ Article
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April 5, 2023 12:01pm
- Inandout
  
  Ghost, people stop and talk to Andrew but not in the numbers to actually vote him in as an MP.
  
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  April 5, 2023 1:49pm
  - Mike
    
    Perhaps you didn’t notice his election in 2011, and again in 2014, 2017, and 2020.
    
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    April 5, 2023 4:49pm
    - Ghost
      
      Do tell us about his elections, how many times did he win an electorate?
      
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      April 5, 2023 4:53pm
      - Mike
        
        You migjt not no about our mixed member proportional electoral system. Would you like me to explain it for you?
        
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        April 5, 2023 6:16pm
      - Ghost
        
        What, can’t you answer the question Mike, how many times did Andrew Little win an electorate?
        
        Inandout Said no one would vote him in, and you claimed 4 election, so which of those did he win an electorate vote. Not the list where he got in on votes for labour not for him.
        
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        April 5, 2023 6:20pm
      - Mike
        
        Are you trying to claim Little has never been elected? [Mod – deleted]
        
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        April 5, 2023 6:38pm
      - Ghost
        
        Are you unable to answer the question Mike
        
        how many times did Andrew Little win an electorate?
        
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        April 5, 2023 6:41pm
      - Mike
        
        It doesn’t seem like any information from me could [Mod – deleted. You can stop with the snarky comments]
        
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        April 5, 2023 6:57pm
Maggie Pie

BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY

German entrepreneur seeks franchisee in Rotorua….

https://twitter.com/fasc1nate/status/1643201407648972802
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April 5, 2023 12:53pm
CAKE FACE1

The neo-Marxist Team of $55 Million have memory holed Mr Hipkins’ interview about the definition of what is a woman. The coverage on PravdaOne and PrimeMarx has been virtually non-existant.

Is the story not of public interest? Given the huge coverage overseas, I think that it is.

Perhaps the legendary ‘Disinformation Project’, which is run by fanatical far left extremists, has told the Team of $55 Million not to mention this story?

Shameful.
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April 5, 2023 12:54pm
- Inandout
  
  CF, just as well the number of those inhabiting MSM territory is dwindling as smart TVs take hold.
  
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  April 5, 2023 1:45pm
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    Labour is supported by an unholy alliance of bureaucrats and beneficiaries. Central and local government have over 500k employees. 11% of households are supported by a benefit as their main source of income.
    
    State TV and radio caters to these people – they are typically low information voters.
    
    These people have been fodder for the legendary ‘Disinformation Project‘ – a State funded conspiracy to propagate extreme left wing thought to the masses.
    
    Although these low information voters are easily manipulated by fanatical neo-Marxists, these people do retain some common sense.
    
    Even they would be aghast at the Prime Minister being unable to define what a woman is properly, and many low information female voters would be disgusted.
    
    I suspect that this is why Mr Hipkins interview has been shadow banned on all State media.
    
    During the Covid hoax, I suspect that the ‘Disinformation Project’ was probably monitoring and banning my social media posts.
    
    Personally, I suspect that the ‘Disinformation Project’ is effectively a criminal enterprise, breaching the Bill of Rights, and censoring any views not in line with their extreme left wing viewpoint.
    
    It could get worse before it gets better.
    
    Particularly scary is the news that the tyrant Cindy Ardern is to made Chief Censor of some fanatical far left propaganda machinery.
    
    God help us…
    
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    April 5, 2023 2:22pm
Maggie Pie

JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE 😎

‘Jacinda Ardern appointed trustee of Prince William’s Earthshot Prize’

My partner was saying Serco is part of Blackrock….and Prince William is the major shareholder/owner of Serco.

https://twitter.com/Elizabeth32413720/status/1643257997051691008
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April 5, 2023 1:29pm
- Che Guava
  
  Jacinda Ardern is to having brains what Prince William is to having hair.
  
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  April 5, 2023 2:34pm
greybeard

My son and his Japanese wife are in Japan at present, visiting family.
His latest email: “I can’t believe how cheap everything is here! About $20 for a bottle of Bordeaux wine, $3.50 for 70kg car load of rubbish at the tip and then you get that paid back when you drop your recycling off at the recycling centre. Public transport is reliable and cheap. NZ really has gone out of control!
We’ve been to the tip a few times. You drive into a big building where it gets inspected first and then dump the rubbish into a crusher. It gets crushed and incinerated on the spot. “.

Rats ! Yesterday it cost me $36.50 at Kapiti tip for 80kg !
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April 5, 2023 2:28pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ needs a ‘War’ to recover from? Just like Jap Crap is no longer.
  Does anyone think NZ crap will take off in the World?
  Nope. Nobody wants to work. No joke, I am serious!
  
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  April 5, 2023 4:38pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/300847827/rod-stewart-spotted-at-bunnings-store-in-sydney-while-touring-down-under

New song on the way: “I am nailing, I am nailing,……..”
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April 5, 2023 2:35pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  He’s probably looking forward to catching up with Rach while he’s in Ak 😛
  
  https://trib.al/OiT9wMJ
  
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  April 5, 2023 2:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Ozzy song anyway.//
  
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  April 5, 2023 4:42pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Jaspinda not returning to Politics, big deal. Read the subtitles of this:
Tina Tato, Cartour,
Kyoda
Well, there is a job for a translator.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/ardern-rules-out-return-to-politics-becomes-emotional-saying-her-final-message-to-kiwis/ar-AA19rHq1
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April 5, 2023 3:13pm
Tauhei Notts

All this hu ha about Ardern and she is finishing up this week.
If she finishes before Easter and the next election is planned for 16th October there will be a need to hold a bye-election in Mt Albert.
Finishing this week – just another example of people being reckless with the truth.
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April 5, 2023 3:38pm
- Ghost
  
  She officially leaves April 15th
  
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  April 5, 2023 3:59pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Does she get holiday pay over and above Friday, Sunday and Monday? And 3 days added to her leave? Oh wait, she is welfare dependent.//
  
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  April 5, 2023 4:45pm
  - Mike
    
    As a fellow beneficiary, I’m sure she has your sympathy.
    
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    April 5, 2023 4:52pm
JimBobJoe

While the Press and Lefties fawn on Ms Ardern and her last day in parliament, the RBNZ has given average kiwis with a mortgage a kicking.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/ocr-reserve-bank-to-decide-on-rate-hike/7AGFV6GWZVE5NEE2WZJ3RTCACI/

50 basis points. OCR up to 5.25 percent.

Half a percent is 5k more in interest payments roughly on a million dollar mortgage (be slightly less if not an interest only mortgage as principal balance will decline over a year) and that is before the addition of any bank margin

2.5K on a half million dollar mortgage. You couple all that with the rampant food inflation and soon to hit fuel inflation – well junior is going to be wearing hand downs a lot more often than 2 years ago and you would expect a retrenchment in discretionary spending. Not good news for the Hospo business.

I fill like I am living out a bad dream and have been transported back to 1979/80 when inflation was starting to gallop, oil crisis had driven pump prices up (carless days anyone?)… and the Left were totally deranged striking all the time….
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April 5, 2023 3:44pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Monetary Policy Committee Record of Meeting
  …
  “The Committee discussed 25 and 50 basis point increases at this meeting. In aggregate, economic projections were little changed relative to the February Statement. The Committee was comfortable that current lending rates faced by businesses and households will help ensure core inflation and inflation expectations begin to moderate.”
  https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/hub/news/2023/04/official-cash-rate-increased-to-5-25-percent
  
  Glad they’re “comfortable with current rates” but not holding my breath that commercial banks will hold them current and pay more on deposits while receiving same for mortgages.
  
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  April 5, 2023 4:53pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  JimBobJoe,
  Back then I was paying 22% on a second mortgage to buy out her equity in the home.
  Today people have no idea. Sure the numbers have changed, but it is relative.
  
  Second mortgage to keep your house? $500K? Go for it, or you end up with nothing!!!!
  
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  April 5, 2023 5:10pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I’d be happily back in the 70s & 80s if I had the youth & vigour also
  
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  April 5, 2023 8:26pm
Maggie Pie

Really looking forward to the Valedictory tonite.
Hopefully there’ll even be word of the actual date for the Wedding?
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April 5, 2023 3:47pm
- Paul Marsden
  
  Now I feel sick.
  
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  April 5, 2023 4:39pm
- greybeard
  
  A video of her valedictory speech will be one to keep and savour for years to come.
  One to compare with the actualities of the last five and a half years.
  One to rank with that video of her infamous “Comrades” speech to her fellow travelling commie friends in 2009, or thereabouts.
  Bring it on.
  
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  April 5, 2023 5:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They secretly married. Did you not know? I am not allowed to say more.
  Come on Maggie Pie, you are the best at Kiwiblog gossip!
  
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  April 5, 2023 5:14pm
  - Littletramp
    
    If you are correct, what are the odds it was while Ed Sheeran was wandering about the Wairarapa, apparently without purpose?
    
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    April 5, 2023 7:10pm
Ghost

She has done nothing to deserve it, a better tittle to give her would be the university of Canterbury young person of the year

Prime Minister Chris Hipkins is not ruling out giving his predecessor, Jacinda Ardern a damehood.

Walking into Question Time on Wednesday, Hipkins said he did not discuss honours appointments ahead of them being made.

NZ Herald
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April 5, 2023 4:39pm
- Mike
  
  The last prime minister not to receive a knighthood or higher was Kirk, who died in office. Before him, Fraser.
  Ardern will be made a dame, or a member of the order of NZ.
  
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  April 5, 2023 4:59pm
- Matt Long
  
  Aunty Helen hasn’t accepted one, I think leftists are more interested in titles like sith lord.
  
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  April 5, 2023 5:17pm
  - Mike
    
    She took the higher honour – ONZ.
    
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    April 5, 2023 6:54pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Seems she will get the title just for being the figurehead PM, the real power brokers and those that propped her up are at this stage unrecognised.
  
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  April 5, 2023 10:35pm
Taieri

It’s turning into grotesque…

https://www.odt.co.nz/lifestyle/fashion/ardern-donate-clothing-te-papa
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April 5, 2023 5:20pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Look at me!! Look at Me!!!!
  
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  April 5, 2023 6:22pm
Maggie Pie

Sitting here watchng CH86 with a cheeky little Chablis and thinking…. whats wth the maori cloak?
what happened to the hijab!

MY parner just txt to say hes bring home a thai takeaway. YAY!!!
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April 5, 2023 5:35pm
- Ghost
  
  You’re watching? Do you need us to call the mental health hotline for you, it apparently takes a few days to get someone so self medicate until then
  
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  April 5, 2023 5:38pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    now she crying over how nany lifes she saved!!
    
    pass me the barf bag ghost
    
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    April 5, 2023 5:44pm
    - Ghost
      
      Is it more than 1?
      
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      April 5, 2023 5:51pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    she even just thanked darren hughes!!
    
    Wheres my swiss ball…i mite poke a hole in it
    
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    April 5, 2023 5:52pm
- Scooter
  
  Surely the black booties and ill fitting coat has to be there too.
  
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  April 6, 2023 10:30am
DimChappie

Home detention for vicious 3:1 road rage attack. No mention of victim’s race but attacker got credit for being a sensitive young Christian. They punched and kicked the victim on the ground.

https://bit.ly/3zQXL9P
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April 5, 2023 6:23pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Avoids jail!
  
  Best to avoid them 🙁
  
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  April 5, 2023 6:58pm
Ghost

Police Scotland said on Wednesday that a 58-year-old man had been arrested as part of an investigation into Scottish National Party funding and the BBC reported the man was the husband of the former Scotland leader Nicola Sturgeon.

Peter Murrell, 58, who stood down as the chief executive of the governing pro-independence party last month, was taken into police custody on Wednesday morning, the BBC said.

Newshub
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