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Yvette

Tikanga educator Blackie Tohiariki (Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairoa, Te Whānau-ā-Apanui, Te Aroha) says karakia is a Māori word and shouldn’t be translated.

“… shouldn’t be translated”, but then he does translate it –

“Karakia is karakia. You’ve got ka – it ignites – ra – connectivity and kia is the essence of your voice, the tone of your voice, your sincerity, the words you are saying.”
… He says a karakia is spiritual – connecting to the elements of earth, wind, fire and water, rather than giving thanks to God.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/podcast-card/the-core-of-karakia?

Taranaki Maunga [Mt Taranaki / Egmont] is one step closer to becoming a legal person following the preliminary signing of a collective Treaty settlement today.
… It really reflects how we’ve always viewed our maunga as ancestors. It will have legal rights and privileges and therefore have standing in partciular processes.”
… A new co-governance entitiy, Te Tōpuni Kōkōrangi, will represent the maunga’s interests.
“It’s 50-50 split with four representatives appointed by the Crown and four representatives appointed by Ngā iwi,” Te Atiawa’s Liana Poutu said.
That means it can represented in court and give submissions to a select committee.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/03/31/taranaki-maunga-one-step-closer-to-having-the-legal-status-of-a-person/

New Zealand is a secular State with no State religion, in which religious and democratic structures are separated. In legislation and policy, the State respects freedom of thought, conscience and religion.
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April 4, 2023 8:01am
- crikey
  
  Yvette: “ karakia is a Māori word and shouldn’t be translated”.
  
  If he/she wants to use that argument, Maori (and the wokerati) should respect the English language and stop adding their translations as is their wont these days.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:33am
  - pdm
    
    crikey – do you mean like meals on wheels being translated as Kaitaia?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wonder what Egmont is going to do with all the forthcoming koha beside fix up some Marae?
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:36am
  - pdm
    
    Steve – that koha will stay with the `elite maori’ (wonder if there is a translation for that) and not flow through to Hori Average Maori who is slogging his heart out to make a living.
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The “elite Maori” are in the middle of a Coup.
      Slowly and almost silently.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:40am
      - Bob
        
        Don’t interrupt a ‘work in progress’; it is disrespectful to the Taniwha!
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:32am
  - Cassandra
    
    $35 million is more than koha. Malay, from which Maori evolved, repeats the word to signify increases. So it could be kohakoha or, as in this case, it could be koha35. Either way it is an awful lot of money for one person. Now wait for the 54 cones in Auckland. And of course about 100,000 more throughout these islands of hills and mountains. One small step for Maori, one giant leap for iwi.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:16am
    - Jack5
      
      Malay, from which Maori evolved?
      
      They likely developed in parallel, rather than Maori evolving from Malay in the way that English did from the German dialects of Frisians, Saxons, Angles and Jutes.
      
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      April 4, 2023 3:49pm
    - Paul Marsden
      
      That’ll buy a few BMW’s
      
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      April 4, 2023 5:33pm
      - leoj
        
        …..which equates to even more waste.
        BMW: Endless money pits.
        
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        April 4, 2023 7:00pm
- Dave
  
  To be fair, if the karakia reported from the recent Kaipara council meeting under the new rules – ie, councillors take turns, one per meeting – to begin the meeting, was extremely brief and entirely secular, assuming it was reported in full.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:46am
- sirknz
  
  If the mountain becomes a legal person, does this mean that someone can be charged with sexual assault if they touch it inappropriately?
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:51am
  - pdm
    
    Is it Male, Female or one of the many other indeterminate genders around these days?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:55am
    - Yvette
      
      As the universe slowly flat-lines, Taranaki Mountain will, sooner than that demise, become Taranaki Plain, to again – as the Pacific tectonic plate sinks under the Australian plate – become a mountain once more: so it is trans.
      And requiring others to act on its behalf, it may be severely neurodiverse or special needs, or physically-challenged in the extreme.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:47am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Can these mountains and rivers vote?
    Do they have to fill in the census form?
    Do they have to pay tax and rates?
    OK, the last one was rhetorical
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:07am
    - bjools
      
      Since it can’t go to work. (Riding the bus may be difficult)
      Will it be eligible for the many benefits?
      Will it be classified as a job seeker or just added to the unemployment?
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:35am
  - G152
    
    And as it { the mountain) is unemployable does it get the dole or does it go on the sickness benifit
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:16am
- WaynelSexton
  
  “New Zealand is a secular state”
  Yeah but Aotearoa probably won’t be.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:43am
- Raphael
  
  “Taranaki Maunga [Mt Taranaki / Egmont] is one step closer to becoming a legal person”
  
  I have no real problem with that as it’s not dissimilar to a corporation having legal personhood.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:27am
  - Matt Long
    
    That would depend on whether people sought to worship the company or give it special status by which it didn’t come under common law.
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:13pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

This is a classic media beat up. Poor Maori, can’t front the pakeha health system, Treaty breach by lower % kidney transplants, etc.

No work on the hard stuff:
* Whether Maori donate kidneys in proportion to Maori need;
* Whether there’s something about Maori lifestyle choices that sees them disproportionately with kidney problems;
* How hard many pakeha find navigating the health system;
* Why the new Maori health authority has not fixed this already (or what they plan to do about it);
* Why someone named Mike Blair is considered to be a Maori only;

Nah, much easier to trot out the usual aphorisms.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/131677086/health-system-a-lonely-road-not-fit-for-mori-needing-kidney-transplants
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April 4, 2023 8:01am
- mawm
  
  My understanding is that Maori do not donate organs at all.
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:56pm
  - Ehlana
    
    I also thought there were cultural issues around organ donation. Which would presumably translate to both a lack of matching donors and a reluctance to accept a donor organ.
    
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    April 4, 2023 2:13pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Maori King got a Kidney from his youngest son.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/318921/maori-king-to-receive-son's-kidney
    
    I presume it was a donation.
    
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    April 4, 2023 6:43pm
Maggie Pie

“I’m not a biologist”

– Chris Hipkins. NZ Prime Minister.
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April 4, 2023 8:02am
- Gravelroad
  
  @MP-
  What is he then?
  Maybe time that the voters found out.
  In the interests of transparency and so on……..
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:05am
  - igm
    
    @MP-
    What is he then?
    A disciple of the vile and dishonest Mallard.
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:06am
  - Dougal10
    
    Queer adjacent .
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:08am
- pdm
  
  maggie – does that mean he does not know how to dissect a frog as we did in the 3rd form in the 60’s.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:10am
  - emmess
    
    Way too advanced for him.
    He failed a Kindergarten level question
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:24am
- JohnRidd
  
  Someone should ask him “Can a man be a lesbian?)
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:12am
  - kowtow
    
    Everyone from a certain Greek island is ………
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Lesbosian?
      
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      April 4, 2023 8:41am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Corfu? 😂
      
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      April 4, 2023 8:54am
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Kerkira is some distance from Lesbos.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:37pm
  - G152
    
    Only if he loves women
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:17am
- mandk
  
  Presumably then, he needed a biologist to tell him whether he is a man or a woman.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He doesn’t know what a women is. No wonder his wife left him, I was gobsmacked at his stunned look yesterday, he had tgd cheek to say he was told about this question and can not formulate an answer, but apparently is Luxon that is like a deer in the head lights
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:37am
  - septic skeptic
    
    The Youtube video is amazing. Usually you have to edit them to run forwards and backwards a few times to get pollies to look that dumbstruck. Our Chippie did it in one take 👍
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:11am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      A very long take too!
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:06am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He tied himself in knots
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:30am
  - All_on_Red
    
    To be fair, I don’t think he has much experience with women.
    What 12 year old does.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:14am
  - rockape
    
    If I was as dumb as Chippie and didn’t know what a woman was I could be gay and not even know it ! Happily married to my lovely lady for 25 years . As she identifies as a woman, has it on her birth certificate do you think I am safe !
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:32pm
- bjools
  
  Mr PM
  You barely have the brain function to be described as a mammal.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:37am
- Bob
  
  Possibly the first true statement that Hipkins has made in politics.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:41am
- Raphael
  
  we should spam him with links to Dawkins:
  
  ‘That’s All There Is To It’: Famed Biologist Confirms ‘There Are Two Sexes,’ Defends J.K. Rowling
  
  British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins confirmed that, according to his decades of study on the subject, there were only two biological sexes — and decried activists who attacked author J.K. Rowling for saying so as “bullies.”
  
  Dawkins joined host Piers Morgan on his show “Uncensored,” and the conversation turned to concerted efforts by activists within the LGBTQ community to erase sex and gender from language.
  
  https://www.dailywire.com/news/thats-all-there-is-to-it-famed-biologist-confirms-there-are-two-sexes-defends-j-k-rowling
  
  Also JK.Rowling wants NZ Woman to define Chris Hipkins.
  https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1642837165993230336
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:32am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  And nor did he need to be to answer a self evident question. But wiggle and wriggle they will. “Genuine Hutt boy” indeed. How can he call himself that when he cannot define what a boy is? Far as I can see, he is just a Hutt weirdo.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:39am
- Rich Prick
  
  “I’m not a mechanic, but I know what a car is.”
  
  I’m not sure who to attribute that to, but it sums up the left’s nonsense.
  
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  April 4, 2023 12:45pm
- Paul Marsden
  
  Last time I looked, you don’t need to be a biologist to tell the difference between a penis and a vagina.
  
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  April 4, 2023 5:41pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    I think something went horribly wrong with the millenial generation. Perhaps there is no visible difference between the sexes with that lot, I’ve heard rumours. Hence all the confusion now.
    
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    April 5, 2023 12:31am
Maggy Wassilieff

What is a woman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGe9RAmFWw

Our PM doesn’t have a clue

….something about “left field”
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April 4, 2023 8:04am
- Its only I
  
  Was the person asking the question banned from twitter recently?
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Twitter interference from the top for sure. Who?
    Chippie “I know nothing, NOTHING!”
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:44am
- herb1
  
  Hopefully Luxon has worked out the right answer as he’s bound to get asked now
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:14am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    “Adult, human female” – it’s not that difficult. Astonishing that it is even a subject for discussion.
    
    Here’s a full length video on the subject, maybe someone should send it to Hipkins.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94HFMSm-JBo
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:57am
  - septic skeptic
    
    To be fair I’ve been living with them for over 60 years and I still haven’t got a bloody clue what they are.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:15am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Well how can you be sure that they are women then?
      
      Have you actually checked?
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:57am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Hahahahahahahaha, they come from venus
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:31am
      - leoj
        
        Correct.
        Men are from Mars.
        Women are from Venus.
        All the other genders are from Uranus.
        
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        April 4, 2023 7:04pm
  - peterwn
    
    He knows the right answer, but the right answer is not necessarily the most politically expedient answer.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:22am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      peterwn – hopefully we’re getting closer to the end of this insanity that has afflicted the world and the politically expedient thing to do will be to tell the bloody truth.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:37am
      - Che Guava
        
        Nope. The “Global Citizen” that is being constructed as we speak will be completely undifferentiated, whether in terms of race, ethnicity, biological sex, sexual preference, economic status, homeland, culture and so on. “Difference” is being used to lead to homogeneity. True diversity is a barrier to profit and the flow of capital and resources, and also “like” tends to collectivise against authority when their interests are threatened, therefore “diversity” is being used to destroy actual diversity and distinctions.
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:47am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Correct Peter, if he had given the correct answer, the screaming heads would have been protesting him and calling him a Nazi. And Labour couldn’t have that now that they fully support grooming, then mutilating children.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:41am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Then we really have reached peak insanity – when telling the truth isn’t politically acceptable.
        
        No wonder loss of trust is at record levels.
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:01am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Chris Bishop reportedly gave the correct, and not the politically expedient answer when interviewed by Plunket this morning – adult human female.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:56am
      - Che Guava
        
        Wow! This stunning act of daring and fearless truth-telling completely redeems him from his “Get Boosted” captured-by-a-false-narrative period.
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:55am
- Matt Long
  
  Poor Hipkins, no one had given him advance warning of the question so his spin doctors could formulate a response for him.
  If he hadn’t been busy elsewhere he would have joined the protests against Speak up for Woman but he doesn’t know what a woman is.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:17am
  - judith8409121
    
    maybe – not only did he not have advanced warning – maybe he was never supposed to be asked that question ?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:38am
- Rodney Hide
  
  I have watched it over a few times.
  
  I have wrapped a wet towell around my head and meditated on his inabiity to define a woman — fifty percent of voters, the person he married, who bore him his children, with his children observed to be baby boys or girls on birth.
  
  I can’t decide: is his answer a) funny, b) sad, or c) tragic?
  
  Rodney Hide
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:21am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘a) funny, b) sad, or c) tragic?’
    
    Across the west “leaders” seem to have a problem with the most basic of certain concepts , which not long ago were so blindingly obvious it just wasn’t an issue.
    
    These are the same “leaders” who have ordained from on high that “the science is settled” when it comes to Earth science , an extremely complex and still in many respects has many ,many little understood processes .( interaction of ocean currents etc)
    
    On the basis that one or two trace gasses are going to end civilisation as we know it they are now waging war on our way of life .
    
    And yet they won’t define “woman”.
    
    Who controls these idiots . And just what is their agenda.
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:33am
    - sirknz
      
      Who controls these idiots . And just what is their agenda.
      
      My guess would be an organisation like the WEF that has claimed to have penetrated the cabinets of many governments worldwide, and their agenda is (as best as I can tell) “You vill live in ze pod, you vill eat ze bugs, you vill own nahsing und you vill be happy”.
      
      They of course will carry on living in their lavish houses, eating steak, flying around the world on private jets, owning stuff (and presumably various blocks of ’15 minute cities’), and not caring about whether you are happy or not because after all we have always been at war with Eurasia who are our friends forever.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:00am
      - Che Guava
        
        The WEF is just a forum. It has no content in itself, so it’s a bit of a smokescreen to say “it’s the WEF!” Rather, it is those multi-billionaires who attend and who are behind the forum who set the agenda and who ultimately decide who can and can’t be a politician with any significant position. If someone goes off the platantation and starts representing the popular will, they will be destroyed by the mass media apparatus that these people also control.
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:59am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      kowtow – your “” around leaders speaks volumes. We have frightened, spineless managers of our political parties right around the globe.
      
      The Emperor is bollock naked, our “leaders” can see he has male genitals, but none of them will point this simple fact out. They are all controlled by their focus groups and are shit scared of offending anyone that these idiots tell them not to offend.
      Speak up, or be condemned to the history books as an irrelevant space filler in our political history.
      
      Are you listening Mr Luxon? Mr Seymour? We know Chippy isn’t, he really is a possum in the headlights.
      
      We know how that usually finishes up.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:18am
      - Che Guava
        
        Yes. When we vote in national elections, we are really only voting for the middle managers who ultimately answer to and enact the will of people we don’t even know. This is why National and Labour are so aligned on all of the basic issues, and only differ on trivial details, because they have become the Red and the Blue franchises of the hegemonic neoliberal global governing body. This is why they throw the kitchen sink at someone like Trump when the popular will elects him, in the same way that a body puts all of its energies into fighting a threatening contagion.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:06pm
  - Grunter
    
    Or d) All of the above
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:36am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    d) A lie?
    Seems to work for his predecessor, until the lies caught up.
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:46am
  - Scooter
    
    What is a woman? The person who gave birth to him for one. He is a coward and should be ashamed and embarrassed.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:00am
    - Che Guava
      
      If someone cannot articulate an obvious and basic truth, then how can we expect them to tell the truth about anything? We cannot.
      
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      April 4, 2023 12:09pm
  - Cassandra
    
    All the above, Rodders. What a state we’ve got ourselves into. Wait, who chose Labour in 2017? On the tip of my tongue; I may have to spit. Twice.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:21am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    [Leave comments about family out of it. mod.]
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:32am
  - Ghost
    
    I think the way questions are asked in the PM stand up needs to change,
    
    The prime minister should have the option to ask the audience or phone a friend when he doesn’t have an answer
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:50am
  - fisho
    
    d) weasel-ish
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:16pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Maggy Wassilieff – that clip is going absolutely viral, right around the globe. I’ve picked it up in multiple countries on multiple platforms. He is probably going to surpass Ardern’s grinning, apartheid, 2 tier society clip “that’s what it is so yip, yip.”
  
  He made a total dick of himself. Pun intended.
  
  Starmer and his “99.9% of women don’t have penises” also gets smashed in this interview between Julia Hartley Brewer and a trans woman journalist, Debbie Hayton.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBHHhJpwGCc
  
  JHB – “No Keir, 100% of women don’t have penises, that’s how you know they are a woman.”
  
  This stuff is getting completely out of control. I don’t know how it gets stopped, but it has to. It is illogical, irrational, clearly ideologically driven mass hysteria. It has parallels with the covid hysteria. No apologies for making this comparison.
  The “climate change” movement has all of the same traits. It’s a concern.
  
  There are no more prejudices against trans people than there are against any other subset of society, and the increasing incursions and indoctrination of this ideology into our education system will not end well for any of us.
  Somebody in that community needs to step up and speak like an adult, because throwing childish tantrums and using physical violence against anyone who disagrees with you never works.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:28am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    What’s important in that interview is not JHB’s comment that 100% of women don’t have penises. She’s a bio woman, so can be dismissed as a “TERF”.
    
    What is really important is the trans journalist’s statement that “trans women are not women”. They say that, in those precise words. That is the clip that should be getting the attention.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:14am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Albert_Ross – I do agree with you that JHB could be dismissed as a TERF, but that’s the level of insanity this has reached.
      
      In actual fact, she and the trans journalist fully agree with each other, yet one is allowed to make this factual statement and the other is cancelled.
      
      That’s the epitome of bigotry right there isn’t it?
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:42am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It has parallels with the covid hysteria. No apologies for making this comparison.
    
    Don’t apologise:
    
    The Disinformation Brigade is already onto it…..
    (aided and abetted by our MSM)
    
    Hattotuwa said a major change in the past fortnight has been the degree to which the “extraordinarily violent” content has been taken up and distributed by anti-vax and anti mandate groups.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/487306/spike-in-online-hate-toward-trans-community-after-posie-parker-visit-researchers
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:01am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Maggy – that makes me really sad. The msm in NZ are enabling this shredding of the fabric of our society.
      
      Along with the jokingly named “Disinformation Project (taxpayer funded!) they are fully responsible for the negativity that permeates every aspect of our lives. Horrific.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:16am
- Opie
  
  I think that video shows the problem with robotic career politicians and the likes of luxon etc.
  
  When hipkins was asked a simple question that wasn’t on the list (what is a woman?) He blustered around before saying he wasn’t aware that question was going to be asked and didn’t have a pre populated answer for it. Guys like luxon that live in the real world think on their feet and answer. This doesn’t always give the perfect response which is then picked to death by the media and the mob untill they can swing it into being offensive to someone or extreme right wing.
  
  They miss the detail that our prime minister doesn’t even know what a woman is. No wonder he is single.
  
  I’ll help you out. A woman is an adult biological female. Easy.
  
  If it has a penis, it’s not a woman. Even if it’s wearing a dress. It’s a man. An unwell man.
  
  If it used to have a penis and cut it off, it’s still not a woman. It’s a very unwell man.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Doctor slaps the babies bum and the dicks fall off the silly ones.
    So you end up with a XX that is really XY?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:52am
    - Jimbob
      
      Exactly Steve O.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:47am
  - Bob
    
    used to have a penis and cut it off……
    becomes a mutilated MAN!
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:02am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Melchett: Ah well, the whisper on the underground grapevine, ma’am, is that Lord Blackadder is spending all his time with a young boy in his service.
    
    Queenie: Oh. Do you think he would spend more time with me if I was a boy?
    
    Melchett: Surely not madam.
    
    Nursie: You almost were a boy, my little cherrypit.
    
    Queenie: What?
    
    Nursie: Yeah. Out you popped, out of your mummy’s tumkin and everyone shouted : “It’s a boy, it’s a boy!”. And someone said “but it hasn’t got a winkle!”. And I said “A boy without a winkle? God be praised, it is a miracle. A boy without a winkle!” And then Sir Thomas More pointed out that a boy without a winkle is a girl. And everyone was really disappointed.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:23am
    - Frankie Lee
      
      I’m genuinely surprised that the Woke Stasi haven’t gone after Blackadder.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:44am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He was shocked he wasn’t told about that question prior, and this idiot wants to run the country
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:39am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Caught with his pants down.
  From now on, scripted questions and scripted answers only. We must have CONTROL!
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:49am
  - backster
    
    Steve……….Or only let Tova and Jessica ask the questions
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:41am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Still scripted by the spin doctors.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:10am
- thirteenstars
  
  They’re all piling on. JK Rowling, and now Jordan Peterson:
  
  https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1642985926031753218?s=20
  
  Chris Bishop, National’s spokesman for Higher Energy Prices, got it right when Sean Plunket asked him this morning, what is a woman? Bishop replied: an adult human female.
  
  Nice, or, gasp!, is that a dog whistle to all the Terfs, transphobes and, don’t say it!, neo-Nazis out there? Posie Parker seems to have some fans in the National Party.
  
  I hope Bishop isn’t about to be given a reading list by Luxon who will no doubt be asked that same question as soon as a real journalist can get anywhere near him. Apparently the likes of Sean Plunket is a little too hot for Luxon.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Pretty sure Luxons answer when he first became leader of the opposition was a biological female adult, Hipkins didnt have to be asked prior, imagine suggesting he should have been given time to formulate an answer, what an idiot.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:36am
- Bob
  
  I ever one needed evidence that Hipkins is but a programmable muppet, Hipkins reply to this question from Plunket is the proof.
  Seemed to me that the question came from the floor audience in front of Hipkins; not from some field?
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:47am
- Akitio
  
  Curious answer from someone whose mother was given a gong “for services to science education”.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:01am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    His Mother was a Secondary school Biology teacher for years
    …specialised in Human Biology…and wrote a Couple of textbooks
    
    “Alive and Well”
    “The New Genetics”
    
    (She was also one of my Teacher Training College Lecturers …. and one that had the respect of my fellow trainees and other biology teachers).
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:44am
- Chuck Bird
  
  This has gone around the world. Check out the video.
  
  McBLOG: Hey man, what is a woman?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7W0qKV-jX4
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:25am
- cjn
  
  I think someone should have asked the PM what a wahine is. That would have solved a number of problems.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:40pm
  - Ghost
    
    A ferry that sunk?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:47pm
surfing

Is Rob Campbell an idiot? He was overseeing the DHB reforms until a few weeks ago …. now he is criticising his own reforms.

He had all the power and money to enact change, now it is gone, he is suddenly a critic.
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April 4, 2023 8:05am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Not sure he agreed with them in the first place did he, controlled by the dictate
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Would you buy a used car from this man?
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:54am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Which one? Hipkins or Campbell
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Campbell.
      
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      April 4, 2023 12:43pm
rouppe

I see that there is now a breach of the Treaty because Maori are apparently not receiving replacement kidneys at the same rate as non Maori.

“We’ve long been aware that while patients identifying as Māori make up one-third of all patients starting treatment each year for kidney failure in Aotearoa New Zealand, their actual rates of receiving a transplant, especially a pre-emptive planned transplant from a living donor, are woefully low compared to non-Māori, and therefore in breach of Te Tiriti Waitangi,” acting KHNZ general manager Traci Stanbury says.

One does not follow the other.

Published in the Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities last year,

Sounds completely impartial…

the Aotearoa study authored by a collective of experienced renal physicians and nurses, interviewed 40 Māori patients and their whānau at various stages in the kidney transplantation process between September and December 2020.

FORTY?! They call that a STUDY?

Researchers investigated participant perceptions and experiences of prejudice and racism on three levels and sub-levels: institutional (their feeling of being excluded and devalued by health system, of disease stigmatisation, discriminatory body weight criteria and lack of power), personally mediated (their reported experiencing of racial profiling and explicit racism), and internalised racism (their feelings of shame and unworthiness to receive a transplant).

“Despite not being asked specifically about racism in this study, participants reported feeling disempowered and disadvantaged in a health system not designed for indigenous people, nor with easy access to culturally specific assessments, weight management criteria and support, and resources for awareness campaigns and marae-based education,” Stanbury says.

Did they ask anyone else about their experience? Did they ask any non-Maori whether they felt disempowered and disadvantaged?

I’ve had an energy deficit building over the last 6 or 7 years. I had blood tests, with the GP saying they all returned in normal ranges, and then did nothing until I pushed for more. I finally managed to get a sleep study done. Result, mild sleep apnea, but not enough to get any help from the health system. So I have a condition that is affecting my life, but the health system said I had to deal with it myself.

What were their suggestions? Lose weight. I’m 190cm and at that time was about 107kg. Yes, overweight. Actually, according to BMI, obese. It did irritate me that the person telling me to lose weight probably hadn’t seen his dick standing up for the last 10 years without using a mirror. I’ve never lost sight of mine. That aside, what support was offered to lose weight?

Absolutely none.

So those Maori who want a new kidney, and get told they have to lose weight first, stop fucking moaning about racism and do the bloody work like this white man has to do.
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April 4, 2023 8:09am
- Grunter
  
  The only way around all this racist health nonsense is for everyone to change their ethnic status to “NZ-Maori” on their health records. If we get a decent proportion of us doing that then it nullifies their silly game. You don’t have to be identified as a descendant of a tribe, you just have to identify as a NZ-Maori.
  
  Join in on the silly game!
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sure, but with my surname?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:56am
    - Grunter
      
      Long lost great, great gandmother somewhere….? Who knows, and I’m sure it’s discrimination to even ask !
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:10am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Not too sure about Nana’s side of the family tree. Must get my Daughter to have a look.
        
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        April 4, 2023 9:44am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      SO – your surname clearly isn’t a problem according to Mike Blair……😂
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/131677086/health-system-a-lonely-road-not-fit-for-mori-needing-kidney-transplants
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:29am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        “Kidney transplant rates for Māori are “woefully low” compared to non-Māori which is a “breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi”, said acting KHNZ general manager Traci Stanbury.”
        Breach my left tit. Here’s the deal: ‘do you want to live or die?’
        
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        April 4, 2023 9:52am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Perhaps Samoan, then?
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:26am
  - pdm
    
    Grunter – not sure my GP would allow me to – but I think he would be tempted to assist me.
    
    He has told mrspdm and I several times in the last 5 years that he has had a gutsful of the racial discrimination in our health system.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:01am
    - Grunter
      
      Just do it online “Myhealthrecord”….. If asked just say you’re researching the exact details, but you now identify as Maori.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:13am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      If someone can identify as any gender they like then it would be surely impossible to legally deny someone the right to identify as whatever race they want? It’s a rhetorical question.
      
      These ideological clowns keep painting themselves into increasingly diminishing circles with their refusal to accept reality. They are becoming a laughing stock. Like Hipkins just did for the whole world to see.
      
      Will this be enough to see him hung out to dry? If he is, will the next clown be even more stupid?
      Fascinating. I can’t order enough popcorn.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:33am
- Drone
  
  Another point that I haven’t seen raised is the fact that the special team don’t donate organs after death so there is bound to be a shortage of kidneys, corneas, lungs and hearts for transplant.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:49am
- Dave
  
  Alas, rouppe, studies of medical racism, as reported in the media, often include a lot of feelings but no carefully selected control group.
  
  It’s bad enough that reporters seem unable to ask these basic questions about the validity of such studies, but the researchers’ and publishers’ failure to ask these questions condemns the scientific literacy of those who determine current policy.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:16am
  - sirknz
    
    This is the same as asking about how questions were phrased in a survey. Some folks see it as a deflection and they are usually the same folks that have something to hide.
    
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    April 4, 2023 3:39pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  From the 2020 NZ Kidney Transplant report:
  
  “Kidney transplantation varies by ethnicity in New Zealand. The reasons for this variability may relate to socioeconomic, geographic, clinical and demographic determinants of suitability and ability to access transplantation that vary between ethnic groups. The data presented here are unadjusted for these confounders, so comparisons between groups are likely to be flawed.”
  
  “Transplant rates are increasing to a similar degree across all groups. This may suggest that
  improvements in access have been similarly distributed by ethnicity”
  
  From their data provided:
  About 55% of Other (including NZ European), 52% of Asian, 38% Maori and 17% Pacifica transplants are from living donors (i.e. generally family members).
  
  So, beyond all the other issues related to suitability, Maori and Pacifica people also have less suitable family members able to give transplants. Surely this is a huge factor.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:39am
- Cassandra
  
  Having spent the last three years experiencing the health system for multiple cancers, operations, chemo, scans, blood tests, line insertions, drips, sutures, physios, etc I must say “disempowered” certainly comes to mind. So what? And as for race, I’ve had one European nurse as an in-patient – Irish – all the rest were Indian, Filipino or Samoan. Māori just need to get used to it. And lose some effing weight!
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It seems that there are cultural beliefs that inhibit some Maori folk from donating or accepting organs.
  
  http://www.nzlii.org/nz/journals/NZBioethJl/2003/9.pdf
  
  As Maori cultural customs are seeing a new revival, this problem is not going to go away.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:30am
  - Jack5
    
    Under Labour’s apartheid-style racially split health system, surely Maori will receive only kidneys transplanted from Maori?
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:06am
- Ra Henare
  
  The new Health monolith is run by ideologs not real people.
  
  My wife went to visit my sister in Tauranga Hospital.
  
  Everyone still has to wear masks. Dictate from said ideologs who obviously dont keep up with the science.
  
  The highly reputable Cochrane Network has done the research
  https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/ARI_do-physical-measures-such-hand-washing-or-wearing-masks-stop-or-slow-down-spread-respiratory-viruses
  
  the relevant bit
  
  Medical or surgical masks.
  Ten studies took place in the community, and two studies in healthcare workers. Compared with wearing no mask in the community studies only, wearing a mask may make little to no difference in how many people caught a flu-like illness/COVID-like illness (9 studies; 276,917 people); and probably makes little or no difference in how many people have flu/COVID confirmed by a laboratory test (6 studies; 13,919 people). Unwanted effects were rarely reported; discomfort was mentioned.
  
  But I guess the Idealogs want to retain some political power and optics in an endeavor to show they are on the case….except they are woefully NOT on thecase on this and many other issues.
  
  A pharmacy mate says he is still receiving over a 1000 RAT test kits a week(with no way of turning of the flow) with buggar all demand. He guesses they have warehouses full of them and being they have an expiry date need to ship them or dump them(bad optics)
  
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  April 4, 2023 2:17pm
CAKE FACE1

The neo-Marxist Team of $55 Million are trying to memory hole the interview with Mr Hipkins, where he was asked ‘What is a woman?’.

This interview didn’t appear on OnePravda, or PrimeMarx last night.

There is a Team of $55 Million blackout on the subject.

NZ media is not free or independent.
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April 4, 2023 8:12am
Tony Stuart

Chris Hipkins certainly seemed to know what a woman was when he did this interview with ABC in February, after becoming Prime Minister.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1623250310952103937

I suspect that he still knows what a woman is, but is afraid to say it in public lest the Trans Mafia descend on him.
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April 4, 2023 8:14am
- herb1
  
  He’s more afraid of trans activists and doesn’t want to offend them but happy to offend women
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:16am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    And that makes him as weak as piss water
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:41am
    - Colville
      
      so just another day ending in Y for [Mod – use correct names, thanks]
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:01am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Not to mention being very poor at assessing likely voter actions
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:59am
- mister nui
  
  Hang on Tony, here you are bagging Chippy, but give it 15 minutes and your idol Luxon will come out with some mealy-mouthed, wishy-washy, all inclusibe bollocks when he is asked the same question.
  
  The only answer is the one Matt King gave.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:56am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Chris Bishop was asked by Plunket this morning what a woman was. His answer was “Adult female human”.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:59am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    F..k Matt King,. and Luxon already was asked one week into being the new leader the question, nothing wishy washy or inclusive at all, he said its a biological adult female.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:40am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Like a child with selective hearing. Hipkins is a child with selective cognisance.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:39am
Maggie Pie

YIP! We’re going viral for all the wrong reasons. Looks like Chippy has become an international joke on Twitter 😀

Doesn’t even know what a woman is – despite replacing Cindy. LOL!!

https://twitter.com/RachaelWongAus/status/1642767391800324098
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April 4, 2023 8:15am
- Tony Stuart
  
  About to? No, he already is. Piers Morgan and J.K. Rowling have ensured that.
  
  I liked Rowling’s tweet the best:
  
  J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling
  
  In the interests of balance, someone should now ask women how they define Chris Hipkins.
  
  https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1642837165993230336
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:21am
  - JohnRidd
    
    While they are laughing at NZ because of the PM, do not under any circumstance let the find out who we chose as the NZ young person of the year.
    
    https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/04/04/face-of-the-day-717/
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:26am
    - Debsta
      
      Yeah it’s shameful alright…wtf are we coming to!!!
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:05am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      JohnRidd – post that on Twitter and tag all of the people with massive followings mentioned so far in
      this thread like Rowling and Morgan etc.
      
      I would, but I’m permanently “suspended” from Twitter. I’m a bad, bad boy. Spoke too much truth. lol
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:42am
      - JohnRidd
        
        A fine suggestion ClanMcleod, but I don’t do Twitter. It’s too scary.
        
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        April 4, 2023 1:05pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Soggy wet tissue paper?
    
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    April 4, 2023 8:56am
  - Colville
    
    I believe most women would define Hipkins by making a sign using their little finger..
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:03am
    - Ghost
      
      In fairness to Chris he was taken to bring your son to work day by the last PM and was left there by mistake.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:09am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, I am sure he knows where his children come from.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:25am
- Taieri
  
  Doesn’t even know what a woman is – despite replacing Cindy
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  Was this “Cindy” a woman?
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:33am
  - Flossie
    
    Wasn’t he saying yesterday (basically) “be nice to her because she did her best, and it was even more difficult for her because she was a woman”???
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Good, he will lose women votes after not being able to answer that simple question surely, he starts with yet another poor performance
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:43am
- Tricati
  
  He could ask his old mate David Cunliffe, as he was sorry for being a man.
  These Labour ‘men’ surly need some psychological help, if not anatomy understanding.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:08am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Both sorry excuses for being men
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:42am
Ehlana

If you’ve quite recovered from the shock discovery that our PM is not a biologist, you may be ready to learn that “in 2022, New Zealanders’ trust in news and news brands continued to fall at an alarming level.”

That’s from the The AUT research centre for Journalism, Media and Democracy (JMAD).

TV3 AM show this morning wanted us to let them know why.
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April 4, 2023 8:18am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Why, oh why would we trust? Newshub (TV3) blurred a ‘white supemist’ hand signal apparently done by KJK while she ‘threatened ‘ the PM in a video…….
  
  Yes they called it out and blurred it because it was so disturbing…….
  
  Facts shouldn’t get in the way of a false story though….the unblurred vision is one of KJK playing with her zip of her top……while she then went one to speak of rights of Maori women…..
  
  Trust in Newshub for me is gone in one swoop of fake news, disinformation and personalised attack as they promoted the demonisation of an individual running against their narrative….
  
  TV3 – Newshub should have no ‘narrative’ they are purveyors of ‘news’ and ‘facts’, not falsified opinions. They have forgetten their purpose and have fallen below the rail of a ‘trusted news organisation’ and they should be ashamed.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    News makers don’t get ashamed. Not even when hiding around the corner with police.
    Sorry police, atm you are not even worth having a capital “p”
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:07am
  - thirteenstars
    
    “Newshub (TV3) blurred a ‘white supemist’ hand signal apparently done by KJK while she ‘threatened ‘ the PM in a video”
    
    I’d like to think that’s the reason but few people I’ve spoken to in the last two weeks even have a clue there’s another side to the Posie Parker story. They are fully on-board with the media narrative as they sit there every night at six in their comfy recliners with their tea on their laps. And it gets reinforced every morning as they watch the morning shows while chewing their weetbix, and at lunch time while they read Stuff. It’s a closed loop of self-referencing conformity.
    
    Anyone who knows the truth doesn’t use state-funded media, anyway.
    
    The figures over recent years reveal that the traditional news bulletins are watched by older people. Ironically, the young who are as woke as hell don’t bother with such sources as they get their info elsewhere. You could say the six o’clock TV news is the delivery method to make granny go woke.
    
    And it’s working.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:53am
    - marcw
      
      This is a watershed moment for the NZ MSM for me – will the clip of Hipkins stuttering over defining women appear on our prime time media? If it remains unseen, there is no way they should ever receive taxpayer funds again. I am not optimistic – after all, look at the blurred Nazi hand signal event. And you can be sure if it was Luxon who was the ‘define woman’ target, it would have been on a repeat loop since the cameras stopped rolling.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:10am
      - Ghost
        
        Stuff are running the video
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300846317/why-prime-minister-chris-hipkins-was-asked-what-is-a-woman
        
        But it appears some National idiot couldn’t keep his mouth shut, top story on Newshub and one news at the moment
        
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/national-candidate-greg-fleming-compared-civil-unions-to-polygamy-and-incest.html
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:02pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        @Ghost – certainly seems that newshub will dig up anything from decades ago and attempt to make it appear current which clickbait header readers just lap up and repeat.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:22pm
      - Ghost
        
        It’s enough for them to take the heat off of chippy
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:27pm
      - thirteenstars
        
        And notice how the Stuff article frames the issue:
        
        “Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has been forced to grapple with questions of gender, as a fraught culture wars issue from the United Kingdom reaches New Zealand.”
        
        See, these “culture war” issues are imported, dontcha know? From the UK, from the US, but they’re not really relevant to NZ because we don’t have a culture war. It’s a Team of Five Million and except for a few transphobes and Nazis–who we punch in the face while the NZ Police look the other way–we live in a country where everyone gets along and has great community spirit, like good ~~comrades~~ mates.
        
        Look over there! It’s Brian Tamaki! Get him! Get him!
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:55pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        It’s got possibilities but don’t think they will forgo their 5/10 minutes electioneering time slot they are appearing to start their nightly “news” with these days.
        “Newshub will air a special, in-depth interview with Ardern on Tuesday on Newshub Live at 6pm, with coverage also on Newshub.co.nz”
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:56pm
- Nickc2
  
  They manipulate News Feeds to suit their agenda (eg anti Trump) This is applicable to Radio, TV, and Print media.
  AUT turns out Racist Journos by the dozen who infest the above Media with their made-up language (Te Reo) at every opportunity.
  A tip to AUT. Turn out Journos who report the news and not be part of it.
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:40am
Warren

The difference Labours Prime Minister’s over the last five years, one was a compulsive liar and couldn’t be told and the other thinks he is clever enough to dupe and con the publc that the policy he has announced or is in the process of announcing will save all the political problems New Zealand is facing .
Labour believes the the public are stupid and will roll over and vote for them again because they are a a caring Government that looks after the well being of New Zealander’s.
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April 4, 2023 8:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Correction, both are compulsive liars
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:49am
  - Debsta
    
    And they’re not wrong about a chunk of the public being stupid either! Sorry, but the polls tell me that is a factual statement 😔
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:10am
- Piniwi
  
  Sadly Warren @8.23am it seems that Chippie is also loose with the truth after being caught out twice. Likewise he has a large whitewash brush like word soup as seen with the Davidson episode. Today’s example being his appearance on the AM show trying to explain the new health system being in a serious crisis situation. This is all their doing after trying to push this through while the Covid pandemic raged through NZ. Sure serious questions need asking about the lack of progress achieved under Rob Campbells leadership but the majority opinion was born out by his failure to perform. Thankfully he has gone but like so many Labour hacks he seems to want be like the proverbial dog shit on your shoe and stick there.
  Then Sean Plunket asked the PM an unscripted simple question linking him to far greater exposure that his closed Twitter account could have as the You Tube clip goes viral. Lol
  
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  April 4, 2023 3:27pm
Bridgenag

Long but interesting article
“……one thing I’m sure about is, if you don’t want to end up eating the bugs and owning nothing and being happy in your AI-monitored 15-minute city while you wait for your social-credit app to update your vaccination record so you can access your CBDC account and make another minimum payment on your ever-deepening credit-card debt, it would probably be a good idea to try to understand what is actually happening.
Or maybe not. What do I know? I’m just an old “far-right extremist lefty.”
https://open.substack.com/pub/cjhopkins/p/the-new-normal-left?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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April 4, 2023 8:24am
- ClanMcleod
  
  CJ Hopkins has been an illuminating source of truth for quite a few years now. I’ve bought all of his books, from short commentaries to full length novels. All brilliant.
  
  In particular, I highly recommend his “Consent Factory Essays”. 3 of them.
  
  In this second volume of his Consent Factory essays, award-winning author and political satirist C. J. Hopkins continues his irreverent coverage of the mainstream media and political establishment’s reaction to the presidency of Donald Trump and the so-called “new populism” that put him in office. “Hilarious … furious … required reading …” (Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone), the essays in this collection cover the insanity of 2018 and 2019. Russiagate, mass “fascism” hysteria, the new McCarthyism, the war on dissent, the Hitlerization of Jeremy Corbyn, the demonization of the working classes, identity politics, and all the rest of the establishment’s “war on populism.”
  
  https://www.amazon.com/stores/C.-J.-Hopkins/author/B00CH7L382
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:51am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

“Leave her alone” Back off from Ardern?
Like bloody hell. Hipkins, do you think Jaspinda should be forgiven after fucking NZ over? Had some hard times? White Island, she stopped rescue boats and helicopters going back to save people. Such is the POWER! She left people to die, and we should be kind to her now. Like fuck sunshine!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/leave-her-alone-hipkins-hopes-kiwis-on-fringes-now-back-off-from-ardern-as-she-leaves-parliament/ar-AA19oJOd
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April 4, 2023 8:32am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  [Mod – please take a moment too read your posts before posting it, I cannot even understand what you are writing]
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Try again G. I am interested. Did not see your comment.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:09am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Yip…me too! Always luv G’s take on things. 😀
      What I do is get my partner to decipher it for me.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:25am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Sorry Magie, its when i am on the cell phone, often it changes spelling and words when you send the message, it does not happen when i use the laptop at home.
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:44am
- cas
  
  Flippy, interviewed by Ryan Bridge this morning, was extolling the virtues of Jacinda leading us through the White Island eruption etc. From what I could see all she did was come up once ( it might have been twice) to give out some hugs. The community led itself through it.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:53am
Maggie Pie

FFS! It’s a MAN 🙁

No wonder they’ve closed off comments…..

https://twitter.com/WPGATour/status/1642653345952468993
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April 4, 2023 8:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Becoming the norm. Can’t win in men’s sports, so identify as female and beat the girls. Cheating. Canada the other day. Bloke identified himself as female for one hour and started breaking Woman’s powerlifting records.
  Wonder if he was just proving a point? If so, good on him.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:15am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    The guy who won was the National coach and he did it to prove the “open identification” rule was a joke.
    Also note that the powerlifting records he broke were made by a biological male anyway so the records were already tainted.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:46am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Libertarians are right – even better, the woman/man who held the record was in the audience when their “record” was destroyed. Perfect.
      
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      April 4, 2023 12:49pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Maggie Pie – is it racist to say, if Tiger Woods was to transition he’d have to wear very loose fitting clothing………? Asking for a friend……
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:54am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Like Michelle Obama?
    lol
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:24am
  - thirteenstars
    
    I’ve heard it said the reason for Tiger’s success was his extra large 3 wood.
    
    Nice to have it confirmed.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:19am
- graham
  
  Damn … I’ve just gone to look at it and the Tweet has been deleted! What on earth did it say??
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:43pm
Chuck Bird

What are the chances of Luxon answering the questions?

Hi Chris

I heard you on with Mike Hosking on the Monday after the physical attack on Mrs Kelly-Jay Keen and some other Kiwi women, many elderly. You referred to this attack as mainly peaceful. I have heard second-hand that you have walked that comment back. I have not found a source for that walk back.

I have made a complaint to the IPCA against Andrew Coster about the Police not defending these women. I suspect that the front line Police were told to stay back and that is what they did. I wonder if the message somehow came from the government.

I have not heard back from the IPCA. I think this is unacceptable as this issue affects New Zealand’s reputation overseas.

I believe that statements made by the PM and other Labour and Green MPs gave these counter-protesters a green light.

I would appreciate it if you would answer the following questions.

1 Do you think the counter-protest was mostly peaceful or violent?

2 What statements of Mrs Keen do you agree with and which ones do you disagree with?

3 How long should it be before the IPCA completes their investigation as it affects New Zealand’s reputation overseas?

4 Do you think it is acceptable for our PM to say he would have joined the counter-protester if he didn’t have something else on?

Kind regards
Chuck
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April 4, 2023 8:41am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He was an already asked right at the beginning, he answered without being told the question prior, he started a woman is a biological female. Why is it pick on him over the lunacy of the left
  
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  April 4, 2023 8:57am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Source, please.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:04am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They did a question and answer quickfire on Newhub nation when he first become leader, they threw about 10 questions at him rapid fire, he said a woman is a biological female adult, what the hell else was he supposed to say?
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:47am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Thanks.
        
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        April 4, 2023 2:17pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Where and when did he say that? I believe Chris Bishop said it this morning when asked by Plunkett, but I haven’t verified that yet.
    Luxon’s comms team seem to be pathetic.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:12am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He said it right at the beginning of taking the leadership, they gave him a rapid fire set of questions, i know all you haters are waiting for him to trip up, but you are happy for that idiot display yesterday by Hipkins.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:49am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        G – where is the source? I don’t think anyone is “hating” on Luxon, he just doesn’t seem to be very good at getting his message out. I’m trying very hard to like him but it isn’t easy.
        
        National will likely get my electorate vote. Act almost guaranteed to get the party vote. But I prefer not voting while holding my nose.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:13pm
    - Ghost
      
      He was at a stand up a few months ago where the media were trying a few gotcha questions and was asked then too, as well as being asked what the principles of the treaty were
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:56am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I told you, he said it on Newshub Nation, it was 18 months ago nearly, don’t you dare try an ask for a link, perhaps if you listen to him rather than best on him you may well see something different from what a few on here suggests
      
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      April 4, 2023 2:47pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Sean Plunket interviewed a woman who was at the Auckland riot. When it all started to go downhill she managed to run to a police vehicle with one or more police officers inside.
  
  She banged on the window. Window rolls down.
  
  “Women are being assaulted. We need your help.”
  
  Officer replies “We are not here to protect you.” Window rolls up.
  
  I never thought I would see this in New Zealand. It is like something out of 1994 Rwanda.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:03am
  - David Garrett
    
    Wido: If that is true, it is utterly outrageous, and the woman should complain to the IPCA.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:09am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I wonder if she thought to get the Cop’s number.
      If she did, she can climb into him and the Police Force boots and all.
      Not her to protect you my left tit. Police are Political now?
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:21am
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        She got his name.
        
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        April 4, 2023 10:10am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Not here***
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:13am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      Yes she could be making it up. However she came across as truthful. I’ll try to find the clip later on and you can make up your own mind.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:21am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      I have made a complaint to the IPCA and encouraged Posie to do the same. I have also given them a hurry-up as this affects NZ’s reputation worldwide.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:27am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      OK I found the audio clip. Go to the 15:30 mark. The police officer tells terrified woman “We are not here to protect you.”
      
      Listen at 15:30 for about 10 minutes. She provides the name of the police officer and describes her interactions with several police officers.
      
      Plunket describes it as “the most compelling narrative of the events”.
      
      https://youtu.be/TJ9FqiNcV80
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:09am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Wow. Only just got back to this today.
        Poor Woman, nearly reduced to tears just telling her story.
        I will put this on Facebook, and on Kelly-Jay Keens Facebook page. Even mentioning the names of police.
        The slackarsed police should not get away with this.
        Thankyou so much.
        
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        April 5, 2023 9:13am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      DG – will it do any good complaining? I’ve sent multiple over the last few years to various so called complaints bodies. It has been a wholly depressing experience and I’ve given up. It’s why you will often see me commenting about the death of democracy here.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:16am
      - thirteenstars
        
        It’s about the process.
        
        All professional politicians love to talk about process. Perhaps they think it suggests “due process”, and is therefore a good thing. National speak fondly of it. DPF has always been a fan.
        
        Process is about feedback, taking submissions, listening to “concerns”, having “conversations”, consulting with “stakeholders”, that kind of fine-sounding but nebulous stuff.
        
        What it’s really about is creating the illusion of consent, of control. That is, that those affected by government actions have a voice and as long as there’s a “robust” process, those affected can feel confident that they have consented, that a consensus of opinion has formed policy.
        
        What really happens is consent is manufactured by being massaged through a given process that is always aimed at the same core outcome. The occasional thing is sacrificed upon the altar of maintaining the illusion, but those things were never important anyway.
        
        Once the process has been captured, like the police complaints mechanism, and indeed the police themselves, the forms are observed, the illusion is preserved, but the outcome is never in doubt.
        
        The worst aspects of the old NZ Police have been folded into the new woke police. They always were a staunch blue wall of silence. Few details were ever given about investigations. Even when we had real journalists, probing questions were often met with a sneering, you’ll-know-what-we-want-you-to-know attitude. Now they’ve been captured by the neo-Marxists the collusion between the police and the violent woke mob will be hidden behind that blank-faced blue wall.
        
        Shame on the NZ Police.
        
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        April 4, 2023 11:14am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    In that case it looks like I gave the Auckland cops too much credit while I reviewed the POS Vancouver cops reaction in a similar situation.:
    
    At least our cops didn’t laugh and smile during the attack on her, although they also didn’t intervene to stop the assault.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:00am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Chuck – re the violence of some of the trans community. Here’s another example.
  
  https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/world/watch-canadian-campaigner-billboard-chris-attacked-by-irate-trans-heckler/
  
  The Canadian police woman in charge of the police is seen laughing and smirking as he is violently assaulted.
  
  https://twitter.com/MrsLibertyBell1/status/1642028448217694209?s=20
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:31am
  - thirteenstars
    
    It’s called capture.
    
    And you can bet she was chosen and promoted for her ideological malleability.
    
    Just like modern NZ cops are.
    
    Remember how zealously the NZ Police were in speaking to people about things they said online during COVID? Knocking on doors. Intimating to folks that what they said could be construed as this and that.
    
    If this country ever gets the kind of hate speech laws the neo-Marxists want, the cops will be oh-so diligent in their new role as Thought Police.
    
    To feel shame you first have to know the difference between right and wrong.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:26am
Its only I

I was a man trapped in a woman’s body a long time ago… then I was born.
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April 4, 2023 8:42am
- Maggie Pie
  
  If you’re anything like all the men I’ve known, you’ve probably spent most of your life trying to get back in 😀
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:43am
  - Lee C
    
    Often headfirst…
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:06am
  - Its only I
    
    My Mum?
    Do you mean my Mum Maggie?
    Maggie?
    My Mum?
    My Mother Maggie
    From your experience Maggie?
    Do you have kids Maggie?
    Their mum Maggie?
    ewww
    //
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:28am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      At least ‘Lee C’ knows where I’m coming from 😛
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:50am
      - Its only I
        
        lol
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:28pm
      - Lee C
        
        Oh, let me count the ways…
        
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        April 4, 2023 2:23pm
artemisia

Fixing New Zealand’s unhealthy homes could cost over $50 billion

From the actual report –

A home which inadequately provides and retains heat is damper, mouldier, and costlier, and is therefore harmful towards its occupants across many domains of wellbeing. To make matters worse, when a home is inefficient, its occupants may choose to not heat the home at all. Homes with children are more likely to be cold, mouldy, and damp. It is estimated that around 30,000 children are hospitalised each year from preventable conditions such as asthma and pneumonia which peak in winter (Child and Youth Wellbeing, 2020).

But is there an elephant in the room?

University of Otago public health professor Philippa Howden-Chapman said overcrowding was the single biggest housing-related cause of poor mental and physical health.

She is referenced in the BERL report. Selectively? Link below.

It seems obvious that overcrowded homes can be damper and possibly mouldier.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/131681345/fixing-new-zealands-unhealthy-homes-could-cost-over-50-billion
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/renting/122907853/election-2020-vanilla-housing-policies-unlikely-to-ease-auckland-rental-crowding–economist
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April 4, 2023 8:44am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  House too small? Or whanau too numerous?
  
  You decide.
  
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  April 4, 2023 12:06pm
  - artemisia
    
    People move in with friends or family as they don’t pass the landlords risk assessment? In the news the other day a woman with a child and another soon to be born living in a 3 bedroom 9 person house. Soon to be 10.
    
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    April 4, 2023 4:02pm
greybeard

MSM: Jacinda, what do you consider to be your most important achievements during your time as New Zealand’s Prime Minister?

Jacinda: Well, I think the fact that , in my time as PM, I single-handedly reduced NZ to being a long-term indebted nation with zero law and order, unprecedented homelessness, unprecedented numbers of unemployed and unemployable, fucking high rents, out-of-control and un-educated kids, inflated public service, desperate primary producers and I also facilitated the creation of transgender terrorists. Oh yes , I almost forgot: lots of expensive cycleways, lots of potholes, lots of unintelligible maori words on TV and radio and I also created a fast-track system for nurses, police officers, midwives and other professionals to go to Australia !
How is THAT !

MSM: Jacinda ! Modesty doesn’t become you !

Jacinda: I almost forgot ! I also stopped exploration of oil and gas, changed all the names of government departments so that nobody knows what the hell they are and I created the phrase “9 long years of neglect”.
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April 4, 2023 8:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Secretly she still thinks she only did half of the job she wanted to do.
  
  Oh, I’m sorry, Chippie asked us to lay off Jaspinda.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:23am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  So much to do, so little time
  
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  April 4, 2023 12:07pm
- gravedodger
  
  I also expanded thee public service exponentially while needing consultants at up to $3K a day to assist the additional drones in performing their roles. Incidentally many of those consultants were once in public service roles but now specialise and we all know the added costs of a specialist.
  
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  April 4, 2023 6:24pm
Paulus

Trump Trump Trump
– Why am I obsessed, along with our media, with the fact that he paid off, or somebody on his staff, a Prostitute some years ago.
NY DA Bragg who wants to be second Black President and sees this a a route towards that aim.
Why don’t they see where Clinton flew 21 times in a VIP jet to a secluded island in the Caribbean with a man who hung himself in prison.
Clinton and many others of which only one , a prominent lawyer, has been named.
The person who knows all is in prison incommunicado because she know all of them probably.
Usual US Corruption – no change unless you have no money.
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April 4, 2023 8:54am
- David Garrett
  
  Paulus: A man who hanged himself in prison dear boy…An old saying to help you remember:
  
  “Pictures are hung; men are hanged”
  
  Yes, yes, I know…I am a tedious spelling and grammar Nazi. A man has to have a hobby once the hot blood of youth has cooled, and the thrill of the chase is no more…
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:07am
  - Colville
    
    I dont know about you David, but I am definitely hung 🙂
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:24am
  - bjools
    
    Is that true if you do it to yourself?
    or
    only true if someone does it to you?
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:45am
    - Ehlana
      
      After he hanged himself, his body hung in the cell until it was discovered.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:57am
      - bjools
        
        Thank you for the clarification.
        
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        April 4, 2023 10:32am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    “Pictures are hung; men are hanged; Epstein was murdered”
    
    Fixed it for you.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:49am
  - Lee C
    
    My first girlfriend said I was well hung.
    
    Mind you, I was her first too.
    
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    April 4, 2023 2:24pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Cohen paid off Daniel’s.
  He said to his Attorney that Trump didn’t know that he did.
  His Attorney has testified to this and produced documentation to prove it.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:21am
  - Littletramp
    
    The problem this NY lawyer Bragg has (call him Chuck Roades), is that even if Trump (call him Bobby Axelrod) did everything the media is saying he did – none of it is a crime.
    They just want to hear Trump, porn star, hush money repeated over and over in the lead up to the next election.
    Just like the Russia story, the Ukraine phone call, the Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations etc, etc.
    This is just another media beat up on Trump.
    I would be more worried about protecting yourself from the coming inflation – you ain’t seen nothing yet. Watch the petrol pump prices going forward.
    The US has run it’s reserves down, and now the Opec nations are going to turn the screws.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:42am
    - MCōs
      
      You should drop a line to Trump’s lawyers in case they haven’t figured that out for themselves.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:01am
      - All_on_Red
        
        I think they already know…
        
        https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/why-braggs-case-against-trump-is-falling-apart/
        The falsification of business records in reference to the $130,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels might have been a possibility, but it lacked two things.
        Fumbling his Trump case, Alvin Bragg exposes his incompetence nationwide
        First, it expired as a chargeable misdemeanor after two years — and that was roughly five years ago.
        Second, it was a mere misdemeanor that could be brushed off by Trump even if they succeeded.
        Prosecutors then created a Rube Goldberg approach and suggested that the misdemeanor was committed to conceal a federal election law violation — a crime that the Justice Department declined to charge.’
        
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        April 4, 2023 10:14am
      - virtualmark
        
        Red,
        
        I’d be cautious about assuming that a DA who came out of Harvard Law School would be making errors like that.
        
        I’d also be cautious about assuming a politically ambitious DA (personally I’m not sure he is, but that’s the prevailing GOP line) wouldn’t be smart enough to know that his career would be hurt, not helped, by bringing a weak case.
        
        So it’s possible Bragg has a much stronger hand of cards than you perhaps assume. None of us know just yet – we’ll get a better sense when we see the indictments and even more once we see evidence in Court.
        
        Oh, I also recommend having a read of https://www.justsecurity.org/85831/the-broad-scope-of-intent-to-defraud-in-the-new-york-crime-of-falsifying-business-records/
        
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        April 4, 2023 2:37pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Yep OPEC+ announced 1 m bbls less output.
      China completed first transfer of LNG in Yuan
      China manouvering to become petro Yuan.
      All BRICs countries buying Gold for Central Banks.
      US $ backed by debt that can not be paid back.
      
      Meanwhile we can not figure out if a woman is a man.
      
      Sheesh…
      
      Side note, Utopia 25
      https://www.sciencehistory.org/distillations/mouse-heaven-or-mouse-hell
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:35am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That would be both Clintons! Aund yop, Maxwell will make her move when the time is right. 3 months before the 2024 Election would be good. Democrats are squirming and desperate.
  Paying a hooker to stfu is not such a big deal. Leftist Bragg is trying to get proven that the $130K came from campaign funds.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:29am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    It’s also worth noting that Daniels’ lawyer at that time was Michael Avenatti who has since been convicted of extortion in another case. Surely him and Daniels are the ones that should be charged here?
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It’s just Trump and his 3D chess.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:16am
MCōs

I wonder if Sean Plunkett, or anyone else could define a woman?
Forget about those who manipulate their bodies to to change from female to male or vice versa; what about those who are obviously female at birth and not so much so as life goes on through no intervention on their or anyone else’s part?
Caster Semenya for one?
Would she fall within his definition of woman?
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April 4, 2023 9:06am
- Surely Knott
  
  `1
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:24am
- grumpy
  
  Caster is that fraction of 1% who was born naturally with confusing genitalia. To use her as a poster child for those who mutilate their bodies through mental illness is profoundly immoral.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:25am
  - MCōs
    
    I’m trying to point out how difficult it is to define a woman.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:51am
    - grumpy
      
      Caster is neither and does not claim to be. The IOC have a process to allow her to compete. She is not Trans anything.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:09am
    - Taieri
      
      I’m trying to point out how difficult it is to define a woman.
      —————
      
      So, how have you been defining/identifying women in your life? With the great difficulty?
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:13am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Adult human female.
      
      Here’s a video to help you understand this basic concept. Or are you just trolling for fun?
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94HFMSm-JBo
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:26am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      How difficult has it been during your life to figure out what a woman is?
      
      Yes there are intersex people born with ambiguous genitals. However we should not be defining reality around a very very tiny number of people
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:59am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      I gather you lived in Thailand for a time. Hopefully you didn’t make too many such mistakes there, given your lack of discernment and the opportunities to err?
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:08am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s not difficult to define a human male or a female.
      
      A normal Female possesses XX chromosomes and has, or had the capacity to produce ova.
      
      A normal Male possesses XY chromosomes and has/had the capacity to produce sperm.
      
      With any developing biological organism there is the possibility that anatomical and physiological features are abnormal.
      
      Caster Semenya is a male (XY chromosomes) with a genetic deficiency condition (that only affects males).
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B1-Reductase_2_deficiency
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:23am
    - grumpy
      
      Easy, they have scientists now who can tell you with 100% accuracy from the smallest organic sample. Mostly used to tell the sex of unidentifiable bodies – or parts of them. They don’t even need wigs or painted fingernails to work it out……
      
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      April 4, 2023 12:31pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Sean Plunkett can’t say much. Someone pulled his Twitter plug out.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:34am
  - MCōs
    
    Hasn’t he got a whole radio station he can burble on?
    Elon Musk can’t shut that down.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      What makes you think it was Elon Musk.
      Someone much closer to home, with some Twitter Admin contacts.
      Sure, Musk got rid of a few, but there would be some missed.
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:18am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        SO – indeed, we know the Labour government had backdoor access to Facebook for suppression of posts.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:18pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Well the dictionary can define a woman. But our mp’s our legislature and our prime minister can not it seems.
  
  Human Rights Act
  Sex is protected in the HRA but not defined. It does mention Sex in correlation with pregnancy and Child Birth.
  
  New Births Deaths and Marriages Act
  Allows you to record your “Nominated sex” and provides this completely circular definition:
  
  Nominated Sex “nominated sex means, in relation to a person, the sex or gender specified as the person’s nominated sex”
  
  The legislation never defines sex or gender. But confirms that you can nominate your sex is not consistent with the dictionary or even the pm’s woke statement that you can nominate your gender. NZ legislation reckons you can nominate your sex based on your gender. They are erasing sex.
  
  Oxford dictionary.
  Woman – an adult female human
  Female – an animal that can lay eggs or give birth to babies; a plant that can produce fruit
  Sex – . Either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions; (hence) the members of these categories viewed as a group; the males or females of a particular species, esp. the human race, considered collectively.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:44am
- Libertarians are right
  
  It’s actually easy:
  
  Well Sean, due to vagaries of the English language there are actually two answers to your question:
  
  Firstly, when talking about biological sex, the answer is biological human female.
  Secondly, when talking about Gender , the answer is anyone that identifies as a woman.
  
  For purposes of sex based things which include women’s sports, women’s safe spaces etc, we should be using the first definition. Please note that intersex people also exist and we should spend time to ensure they are treated fairly and with compassion and empathy.
  For purposes of gender based things which include naming and pronouns, clothing etc, we should be using the second definition.
  
  There you go MCos. It honestly wasn’t difficult.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The fact that gender has entered into the debate around sexual identity is a BLOODY BIG clue that it is easy to tell the difference between Men and Women/Males and Females from a biological point of view.
    
    Gender as applied to Humans is a modern Psycho-sociological concept, promulgated by John Money.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
    
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    April 4, 2023 12:03pm
- Yabster
  
  lol its not difficult at all, thats just lefty bs- human adult female- covers 99.9% of woman.
  
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  April 4, 2023 3:17pm
Maggie Pie

STATE SPONSORED CHILD GROOMING IN OUR SCHOOLS?

Save the date and get ready for….

“SCHOOL PRIDE MONTH AOTEAROA”
JUNE 12 – 16, 2023.
ALL NEW ACTIVITIES, EVENTS, AND PROGRAMMING.

https://pride.school.nz

If it was me, I’d take the kids to Fiji for a week.
Suggest all loving caring biological mothers & fathers do the same.
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April 4, 2023 9:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Things are getting really screwed up these days. I am thankful that I am not 20 years old, but 70. About 20 more years of this shit and I will clock out. Leave all you youngsters to suffer the madness.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:00am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  The current Government appears to be enabling groomers into our schools. Sheesh.
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:01pm
grumpy

Getting very close to home now. The NZ and Australian golfing associations all knew. Cowed into submission by the thugs.
https://100percentfedup.com/megyn-kelly-rips-wpga-tour-of-australasia-as-they-celebrate-another-biological-male-stealing-dreams-of-accomplished-female-athletes-its-a-fraud-its-immoral-and-it-has-to-stop/
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April 4, 2023 9:22am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  These transistors need to have their own sports events.
  Sooner or later biological females just won’t compete and the transistors can have their own game solo.
  
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  April 4, 2023 9:39am
  - bjools
    
    spelling correction
    trans- sisters.
    
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    April 4, 2023 9:43am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yep.
      But a ‘transistor’ has 3 legs and amplifies signals. Something to ponder on.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:03am
    - Its only I
      
      Nope “transistors” have three legs.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:03am
      - bjools
        
        N-P-N
        or
        P-N-P
        type
        Now , even they have 2 genders.
        
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        April 4, 2023 8:22pm
Prince

Has anyone heard from Grant Robertson lately ?
Given NZ Govt debt has shot over $152B, I’m starting to feel like someone whose partner hasn’t returned home, the bank account has been cleaned out, a ‘for sale’ sign appears out front, the kids have flown to Australia and the power has been cut.
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April 4, 2023 9:26am
- Grunter
  
  I saw him this morning at the Pie Shop….. He was getting morning tea
  
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  April 4, 2023 11:15am
Inandout

If the definition of ‘woman’ is indeterminable by Hipkins does this mean that equal pay for men and women is off the table?
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April 4, 2023 9:26am
bjools

A small joke for ya’ll.
3 women go fishing every day
one seems to catch more fish than the others
Eventually ask “what’s your secret”.
She says:
“When I wake up in the morning
If my husbands penis is lying to the left
I put the net over the left side of the boat
If to the right, then the right side of the boat.”
One of the women asks.
“and if it is lying up the centre?”
She replies
“Who wants to go fishing?”
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April 4, 2023 9:41am
NeverMindTheBollocks

The anti-car faction love to cite European cities as examples of what Wellington should aspire to

I bet they won’t be citing Paris any time soon.

The result wasn’t close. City Hall says just over 103,000 people voted, with 89% rejecting e-scooters and just 11% supporting them.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300846271/parisians-overwhelmingly-vote-to-banish-forhire-escooters
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April 4, 2023 9:55am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

One of the girls from Tennis shares link –

‘Australian woman born with TWO VAGINAS says….. she uses one for her husband and one for her career.’

https://trib.al/CzenN8x
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April 4, 2023 9:57am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Photos or it’s not true.//
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:06am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Bet it must make Shaneel jealous…he hasn’t even got ONE 😛
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:11am
    - All_on_Red
      
      I nominate Shaneel for Kiwiblog’s Woman of the Year.
      
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      April 4, 2023 10:19am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        He could actually be her third one 😀 😀 😀
        
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        April 4, 2023 10:24am
  - Inandout
    
    The body paint is true.
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:12am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23301-uterus-didelphys
    
    Some people with a double uterus may also have two cervixes and two vaginal canals.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:29am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      The NYT article says that 1-in-2000 people have two vaginas.
      That would mean here’s nearly 3000 in New Zealand …800 in Auckland alone!
      
      What’s the population of Gizzie as a matter of interest Maggz?
      
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      April 4, 2023 11:44am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Can I get back to you on that one…
        I’m just off to buy a large hand mirror.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:16pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Bed, Bath &Beyond have the ‘fog-free’ ones.
        
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        April 4, 2023 12:28pm
      - Jack5
        
        Maggy Pie’s … 1-in-2000 people have two vaginas.
        
        But twin penises in a male (diphalia) occur only about one in five to six million births. So perhaps once in every 80 to 100 years in NZ.
        
        There is even been one reported case in the world of triphalia – a male baby with three penises.
        
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        April 4, 2023 9:45pm
- Lee C
  
  Working from home, I assume..
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:12am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Comment from yesterday’s Stop Co-Governance:

Carl Kent on April 3, 2023 at 1:04 pm
I promised myself that I wasn’t going to comment further on political/ social issues.

However, things are going from bad to worse here. The police are a disgrace. So are the media and most politicians. People died for the freedoms which we now enjoy. including many of my own family. I really don’t know where it will all end.

Sadly, there are more and more who are intimidated and afraid to speak out for fear of being cancelled. This is now happening to people I have previously respected.

Labour and the Greens are outright nightmare territory. Our Human Rights Commission , headed by a rabidly woke academic, is an absolute disgrace.

It’s all the fault of ” Colonisation.” Of course it is. Did you know that Capt James Cook was a despicable racist, rapist and colonicer. ?

I am deeply ashamed of my Famine Irish ancestors and my Coal Mining English and Scottish ancestors . The privileged white scum. I must go and give myself my daily thrashing with a cat o’ nine tails.

Ironically , anyone who challenges the propaganda, to which we are subjected on a daily basis , is invariably labelled a ” Nazi,” “Fascist” or a ” Racist.’ Our main stream media and many of our politicians, from both ends of the political spectrum. are an absolute disgrace.

They fall over themselves to be seen as ” Politically correct.” They are gutless clones who lack a backbone. They condone The most appalling behaviour.
This Includes Sir Peter Gluckman and Mark Mitchell etc etc etc etc .

Relatives and friends in Australia, UK , USA, and France, some of them ex pat Kiwis, Are unanimously appalled that that the powers that be in NZ, from the PM down, appear to be in complete denial.

It’s rather like the small child who sticks their fingers in their years and hums loudly so as not to acknowledge something which is distasteful. Or the Ostrich with it’s head in the sand.

Whatever ones personal opinions, recent aggressive, hate filled attacks, on those who stand up and express their opinions in a legal, democratic manner, show us that we have a long way to go before we call ourselves a civilised society.
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April 4, 2023 10:16am
Handyman

I see the total power being generated from windmills this morning is 6 MW out of the total 4,931 MW being used.
Coal = 101 MW
Gas 511MW
Hydro 3,794 MW
Geothermal 772 MW

New Zealand has a lucky energy mix, unlike anything in Europe, America or Australia. We have some intermittent wind generation but do not depend on it. Wind generation avoids emptying out hydro lakes more so is effectively a hydro storage mechanism.
We are also blessed with geothermal (all day, every day) as a base load.
We have gas plants on standby which can quickly be ramped up to provide variable supply and base load in dry years.

Given these natural advantages, how can Labour/Greens ruin it?
1. Use coal plant as a peaker to be used like a gas plant.
2. Spend $30- $50 billion on a little lake to store water for dry years.
3. Legislate electricity usage increase by 2000 MW per day (cars, heat pumps, no gas cookers) while simultaneously objecting to any generation scheme. eg ministerial veto of the West Coast hydro scheme.
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April 4, 2023 10:17am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Handyman – advanced lifeforms are confused.
  
  https://ifunny.co/picture/when-aliens-see-us-putting-up-windmills-again-after-we-0VNaRujMA
  
  “When aliens see us putting up windmills again after we have harnessed fission……”
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    From that same source about Hospital bills. Labour do the same.
    https://ifunny.co/picture/how-hospitals-calculate-medical-bills-Gm53RzGMA
    
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    April 4, 2023 10:41am
Yvette

‘His domain’: Hipkins says ex-health boss was spearheading the reforms he’s now attacking
– Newshub headline

Is that a little like Hipkins now cancelling policies he championed under Ardern?
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April 4, 2023 10:25am
- Swifty
  
  Hahahahahahah!
  
  Well said Yvette.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:57am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/how-media-spin-and-iwi-leaders-are-perpetuating-maori-inequities/

Julian Batchelor’s reply to being labeled ‘racist. It is in the first link.

My response is always the same “Well, describe a
racist for me?” Sometimes I say “Provide some examples where I am guilty of being a racist?”
They never reply. The reason? According to the Miriam Webster Dictionary, a racist is someone who believes
that one race is superior to another. I do not believe my race is superior to any other. So I am not a racist. I
believe all people are equal.

The Herald on Buck Shelford is the second link. Yep, “Bring back Buck” for sure.
Dropped because he is Ngapuhi? Now RSA President. It is all there.

Two letters slamming Auckland Council for Glaudia Wyss’s behaviour in the post.
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April 4, 2023 10:35am
- mandk
  
  ” … a racist is someone who believes
  that one race is superior to another.”
  
  For example, Charles Darwin.
  
  Oddly enough, however, lefties (and the MSM in particular) would never dream of cancelling him.
  
  I wonder why.
  
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  April 4, 2023 10:53am
  - Swifty
    
    And Michael Joseph Savage.
    
    What a racist he was. Not that you ever hear about that from lefties. I never hear that they want to pull down HIS monuments.
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:09am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Indeed….but so were most of the Founding fathers of NZ Labour and the Union Movement
      
      https://rdln.wordpress.com/2015/08/24/labours-racist-roots-2/
      
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      April 4, 2023 12:53pm
BeaB

The media used to wet their pants when Ardern made headlines round the world but they don’t even mention the worldwide astonishment that the NZ Prime Minister hasn’t yet ‘formulated’ what a woman is. Perhaps his lobbyist chief of staff could take him aside and explain.
Did Hipkins even know here his kids came from?
In the meantime, will we see the any of this on TV or radio?
Perhaps not if we cannot even be frightened by the shocking sight of a woman fiddling with her zip.
Has the media ever considered they might be the biggest purveyors of dis and mis information through their biased and selective reporting?
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April 4, 2023 10:37am
Swifty

Men wanting women to warn them before bringing up topics like periods and pregnancy to spare their hurty feelings:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tr00npregnancyI/status/1642741936464248832

Have a heart women! You beasts!

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April 4, 2023 10:55am
ClanMcleod

I wonder what the situation is in NZ with over supply of the experimental jabs?

Eugyppius talking about Germany.

Germany, having concluded some of the most insanely stupid pharmaceutical contracts in the world, will soon receive enough Covid mRNA vaccine to last well into the 24th century

Another paper does the maths, and notes that if vaccination continues at the current rate of 2,000 jabs per day, the 227 million doses which Germany will last for 311 years. Of course, all of these doses will expire well before then, so Germany will merely receive all of this useless product, store it at substantial expense in freezers for around eighteen months, and then throw it away.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/germany-having-concluded-some-of

We’ve been down this track before with Tamiflu.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9768461/Mass-dump-of-Tamiflu-a-bitter-pill-to-swallow

I wonder how much the government were sucked in for this time? Fool me once……
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April 4, 2023 10:59am
- Ian Boag
  
  Keep up the good work Clan. Fearless exposer of the jab conspiracy …. 🙂
  
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  April 4, 2023 11:24am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Cheers Ian – I’ve always enjoyed your erudite contributions to the subject…..
    
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    April 4, 2023 11:49am
Maggie Pie

Not sure if I heard it right or not because I was drying my hair, but did Kerry Woodham say… the government budgeted for a Transport Subsidy of $35 billion paid out to Operators over 10 years?

What a great lurk that must be!
From what people are saying, there’s NO trains, NO buses, and NO ferries even running these days.

LOL!!
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April 4, 2023 11:06am
freemark

Thought provoking little animated clip. After the reset.
https://youtu.be/vWkepoLUZfs
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April 4, 2023 11:09am
- ClanMcleod
  
  That is very good cheers.
  
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  April 4, 2023 11:40am
Jack5

Heading in Stuff today: Matauranga Maori is no threat to science …

😄😄😂

From online Maori dictionary: Matauranga is knowledge, wisdom, understanding, skill.
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April 4, 2023 11:11am
CAKE FACE1

Womangate represents is the end of Labours election chances.

The Team of $55 Million spent untold money promoting the ‘bread and butter’ marketing plan for ‘Chippy’.

‘Chippy’ was the lovable bogan from the Hutt. He loved pies, the lickspittle media explained to us, in excruciating detail. Chippy wore his hoodies, and munched his pies, and everything was supposed to be relatable and normal.

In two minutes of insanity, poor old Chippy revealed himself as being just another neo-Marxist cultist.

The Team of $55 Million will desperately try to bury the interview.

I doubt they can. Poor old ‘Chippy’ will never live this down. He is toast.
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April 4, 2023 11:12am
- Bob
  
  He is toast…….
  another $55 mil will reset that public impression.
  
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  April 4, 2023 11:42am
Blog-aholic

Very interesting commetary I found elsewhere but thought it pertinent to the conversation…..
https://9gag.com/gag/axov9DY
Gender ideology under some true scrutiny.
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April 4, 2023 11:13am
ClanMcleod

For anyone who hasn’t already seen Hipkins making a total dick of himself, actually, even if you have already seen it, this is the best version of it that I’ve seen so far. There are shitloads to choose from, but this one is brilliant.

Watch the sign language lady’s face at the end. Priceless!

It has truly gone viral, I can’t wait until Jimmy Dore gets his hands on it……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqhlUuGGa4

😂😂😂😂😂
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April 4, 2023 11:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The sign lady is dumbfounded, thinking “how the hell and I going to explain this to friends, and why am I here with this idiot?”
  
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  April 4, 2023 11:37am
- Grunter
  
  I can read sign language – that look on her face at the end means “WTF…???!” I get it all the time when I speak to my wife 🙂 🙂
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:21pm
  - kevn
    
    @Grunter… Body language to confirm it.
    
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    April 4, 2023 2:03pm
- mogg
  
  Well done Plunket, a bunny in the headlights.
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:38pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duhYPgdEMW8

11 of the most enlightening minutes….
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April 4, 2023 11:47am
Jack5

Another from Stuff’s Woke scribbling stable throws a rock at colonialism.

K (Guru) Gurunathan, came to New Zealand as an ethnic-Indian journalist from Malaysia, and became best known as Mayor of Kapiti.

An extract from his article in Stuff:

There are other screaming barbarisms in New Zealand’s own civilisation.

Ground zero is the colonial suppression of Maori.

Colonial suppression? What has happened to his ethnic community in Malaysia since independence?

Colonial suppression? Was that what the Treaty of Waitangi was about?

Would Gurunathan’s ancestors have been able to settle in Malaysia under post-colonialism or before British colonialism?

Would he have been in New Zealand at all if this country hadn’t been colonised by the British?
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April 4, 2023 11:50am
Ghost

How long until this movie gets scenes deleted and rewritten?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQvnZOR_oIk
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April 4, 2023 12:08pm
Maggie Pie

1ZB @ 12:15pm…

Andrew Little, Minister-for-the-GCSB, tells reporter…. he has no idea if there are Chinese made spy-cameras installed in government departments or in the homes of MPs.

Angry certainly fills you with confidence. LOL!!
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April 4, 2023 12:22pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  He never knows anything.
  
  A perfect Labour sloth.
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:19pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP!
    Actually took an investigation by a sleuth at 1ZB to uncover them.
    
    https://youtu.be/eeb85jtuFxM
    
    As my partner said, you’d have to wonder what those gubmint spooks do all day. Wonder if any of the Field-Agents carry a ‘OO’ prefix?
    
    (Although it can also mean ‘egg’. Maybe they all do 😀 )
    
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    April 4, 2023 1:47pm
Ghost

Sigh. This story bothered me when I first saw it. Philip should have gone to the police, he should have reported his brother. I can’t imagine how hard that would be to do…

UK TV host Phillip Schofield has publicly condemned his brother Timothy Schofield, who has been convicted of sexually abusing a teenage boy.

“As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother,” the broadcaster released in a statement on Tuesday, which he also posted to his Instagram stories.

He described the crimes as “despicable” and said he welcomes the guilty verdict, which came on Tuesday after a week-long trial.

“My overwhelming concern is and has always been for the wellbeing of the victim and his family. I hope that their privacy will now be respected.”

Stuff
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April 4, 2023 12:35pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I recall reading in ‘HELLO’ magazine that after about 25 years of marriage Phillip came out as Gay. Bit of a strange mob anyway by the sound of it.
  
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  April 4, 2023 1:58pm
  - kevn
    
    @Maggie… Bit of the same in NZ, but maybe not at the 25 year mark.
    
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    April 4, 2023 5:37pm
  - MCōs
    
    Oscar Wilde, the very definition of gay, was married for fourteen years.
    
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    April 4, 2023 6:41pm
Tom Hunter

Re Luxon’s policy announcement the other day about the electrification of everything in order to hit the NetZero2050 that National signed up to, there’s this article in The Daily Telegraph:

We are living through the most startling political realignment in more than 100 years. Never since the advent of modern socialism in the early 20th century has the Left openly advocated making ordinary people poorer, thereby leaving those on the Right to defend the spread of mass prosperity. The debate (if this tendentious chorus of unanimity can be called a debate) on net zero has entirely shifted the ground on which modern political discourse has been based.

It’s the opportunity of a political lifetime for centre-right parties to grab – except that they’ve allowed the Left to maneuver them into holding hands to jump off the same cliff.

Un-fucking-believable.

Different link here that shows most of the article.
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April 4, 2023 12:39pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Re: the electrification of everything – isn’t there a saying about putting all your eggs in one basket?
  
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  April 4, 2023 12:49pm
- thirteenstars
  
  “…thereby leaving those on the Right to defend the spread of mass prosperity.”
  
  Except National is selling the idea that you can have Net Zero and prosperity, too. You can have your capitalism and eat it, too.
  
  You can’t.
  
  You can reduce herds and farm production, but you can’t have food security and cheap abundant food. You can build wind and solar, but you can’t have cheap abundant, *reliable* energy. And without energy security you can’t have sustainable production and transport.
  
  The choice is growth and the ongoing reduction in costs relative to incomes (it’s called capitalism), or you can have Net Zero and impoverishment. As historian Chris Wickham described the descent into the Middle Ages after the fall of Rome, we will have a “radical material simplification”.
  
  And that’s the mechanism by which revolution happens. The goal is not impoverishment, that’s only a waypoint, the final destination being a neo-Marxist state where everything we now take for granted is sacrificed upon the altar of hatred for humanity.
  
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  April 4, 2023 3:04pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    In June 2022 I did a post on Lessons for National from the Australian Power Crisis, which contains, among other things, a graph showing the steep, massive increase in electricity prices (indexed to 1990) since 2007 (after falling for more than forty years) and the matching timing with the growth of the Unreliables:
    
    Second, note that the Liberal-National’s have been in government during much of this time, including the last nine years just ended. So when Labor and the Left hold them responsible for much of this nonsense they will be correct.
    
    Third, hidden by such truth is the fact that Labor and the Greens wanted to go harder and faster on all this – which may have been a better idea since the crash would have come harder and faster, with appropriate lessons learned.
    
    The primary lesson for National here in NZ on ~~renewable~~ unreliable power and climate change is this: Labour and the Left want you in on this so that when the hungry, cold crowds with the pitchforks and burning torches turn up they can point fingers at you and say:
    “But they did it too”
    And they’ll be right.
    
    But obviously National have not learned a damned thing from this. And given their connections to the corporates loving wind/solar power I have to wonder if they’d even care if power prices doubled or tripled by 2035? Just means bigger profits for the investors.
    
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    April 4, 2023 4:41pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      Just so, Tom.
      
      The only question for me is: does National *know* what’s going on? Labour and their mates certainly do. But is National just credulous, transfixed in the headlights?
      
      Or do they really have some obligation to the pseudo-monopolies that govern our power supply? Just, perhaps, as they have some unspoken obligation to the few thousands of property investors who have reaped tens of millions off the artificially-inflated property bubble that Chris Luxon has as a large part of his own investment portfolio?
      
      Because I see no policy from them that addresses the vicious inflation spiral in property prices we’ve experienced for almost two decades now.
      
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      April 4, 2023 9:03pm
Maggie Pie

$48 BILLION and he can do what he f**ing likes 😀

I see that Elon has just changed the ‘Twitter-Bird’ logo to a DOGE.

Said he would and he has…God I luv that man!
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April 4, 2023 12:47pm
Ghost

Hmmm, is there a legal avenue here that the manager offered them a pay rise?

Britain’s Royal Mail has been called “tone deaf” after a manager announced an 11% pay rise for staff – as an April Fool’s joke.

A poster was put up claiming the company had reached an agreement with the Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) after months of strikes over pay.

The poster said staff would get a pay rise of 11%, backdated to April 2022, and was shared online by a member of staff.

According to the Telegraph, the CWU condemned the prank as “nasty” and “tone deaf”.

Stuff
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April 4, 2023 12:48pm
Ghost

Judith being asked about Ardern, time Newshub get a decent camera person, bloody awful

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/judith-collins-reflects-on-jacinda-ardern-s-extraordinary-work-her-disappointment-and-if-she-could-have-beaten-her-without-covid.html
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April 4, 2023 1:09pm
BeaB

What is news?
NZ PM Hipkins not knowing what a woman is? Nope.
Kiwibank and University of Canterbury Young NZer of the Year Shaneel Lal spewing racist and sexist filth? Nope.
Comments about gay marriage made 20 years ago by recently selected National Party candidate?
You guessed right.
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April 4, 2023 1:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Slowly the truth will come out – J6.
“Strangely, they are blaming President Trump for the incursion, but they cannot explain why Trump would offer thousands of National Guard troops to keep the peace if he wanted a riot.”

https://silvercircular.com/pelosi-rocked-with-major-lawsuit-this-could-bring-them-all-down/
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April 4, 2023 1:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Rand Paul wants Bragg jailed.

https://finishtherace.com/keely/rand-paul-calls-for-da-bragg-to-be-jailed-over-disgusting-abuse-of-power/
Well Tramp has arrived in DC using his own plane.
NZ TV said Trump was welcomed by protesters. Sorry, Trump protesters do not wave Trump flags etc. I think the TV guy was demonstrating his TDS. (ingrown and he does not know it!)
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April 4, 2023 2:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Alvin Bragg withheld pages goes from 330 pages to 600 pages.
I think Bragg is now in deep shit and Trump will walk away, if he hasn’t already.
Wow – publicity! See Trump is not a Politician, he is a businessman. He wants photos to go Worldwide of his arrect, handcuffing, fingerprinting, and mugshot.
Why do they want a mugshot? The whole World has seen photos of Trump.
Bring it on!
https://finishtherace.com/natalie/shocker-soros-funded-da-hid-600-pages-of-evidence/

Fun. Some here can’t be bothered. I just like seeing the cheating left screwed over.
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April 4, 2023 2:22pm
- NothingLeft
  
  There are apparently 34 felonies in the indictment. You can’t write it off until you know what they are for – possible that there is some meat in there somewhere.
  
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  April 4, 2023 4:07pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Arizona. Signatures don’t match.
“10% match as being “High Confidence.” WHAT???
If I did my job that I was only getting performants sometimes at 10%, I would have had my arse booted and a DCM!
Errr, I had only 25% in School Cert English in 1967. So I passed with flying colours! Sorry, nope.

https://billingsreport.com/program-analyzing-signatures-in-kari-lake-case-ranks-10-percent-match-as-high-confidence/
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April 4, 2023 2:47pm
Tauhei Notts

Now that Russian Tv has been taken off channel 92 I sometimes visit their website to see what they are reporting on.
Hipkins made the lead article today with his idiotic response to Sean Plunket. Last time N.Z. made the lead was when we selected a bloke for our women’s weightlifting team.
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April 4, 2023 3:19pm
- MCōs
  
  Why is Sean Plunket sending stuff to Russian TV?
  
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  April 4, 2023 6:30pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Why wouldn’y he Cossie?
    Sky took RT down from our package without any notice….OR discount to our monthly sub!
    One of the best news sites in the world and we have to watch it on our phones now.
    Surely you must understnd this countrys become a woke joke in the last 5 years?
    
    How your wifes wrist btw? Often think about you guys.
    
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    April 4, 2023 7:30pm
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Maggie, I disagree with you describing Russian Tv as a great news site. Their overwhelming anti U.S.A. bias makes the RNZ National bias look like nothing.
      I have thought, in the past, that if there was an anti government protest in Cheyenne Wyoming involving three protesters, the only foreign web site to give that protest coverage would be Russian Tv.
      What Russian Tv does do well is give us an alternative viewpoint that makes us think.
      They love showing up the idiocy of the West, so Hipkins behaviour is something they adore.
      
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      April 4, 2023 8:28pm
Swifty

I confidently predict that government-forced pay gap transparency will hurt the very people they claim it will help – low or no-skilled women and brown folk.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/486967/open-letter-calls-for-pay-gap-transparency-legislation

If you force business owners into a corner, where their only option is 1. to lower average male and white pay or 2. to raise average brown or female pay, the last thing they’re going to do is give low paid jobs to women or brown folk, thereby lowering their averages.

If these do-gooders continue the way they’re going and increasingly demonise employers with ‘pay gaps’ (instead of, I dunno, celebrating them for giving work and incomes to people) you will force employers hands.

Just watch.

Cause and effect 101.
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April 4, 2023 3:24pm
- artemisia
  
  Quite right Swifty. If we know one thing about humans it is that we will act in our own best interests. And if even a tiny bit smart we will zip the lip about reasons we hire or don’t hire someone. No percentage in falling foul of discrimination laws.
  
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  April 4, 2023 3:58pm
  - Swifty
    
    The way this is going we’ll be seeing union-organised crowds with flaming torches and pitchforks outside businesses with ‘unacceptable’ pay gaps.
    
    The business owners will be crucified in the media too – once the media cotton on to this latest blood sport.
    
    ‘ACME Dynamite Company has largest racial/gender pay gap in Aotearoa!!’ the headlines will scream.
    
    The owners and managers will become desperate to get themselves out of the headlines and off social media trends and it’ll be unwritten rules to not accept any brown or female folk for low paid positions.
    
    No or un-skilled brown folk or women will just become collateral damage for virtuous social justice warriors and the gaggle of do-gooders at the Human Rights Commission.
    
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    April 4, 2023 5:50pm
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      *low or un-skilled
      
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      April 4, 2023 6:45pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

I may have missed it, but I’ve not seen anything in the press (or here) about OPEC cutting supply by 1.66 million bpd on Sunday.

Brace yourself for price increases at the pump.
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April 4, 2023 3:38pm
- Ghost
  
  I haven’t seen it, only on overseas sites
  
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  April 4, 2023 3:56pm
- mandk
  
  I definitely saw something, but I cannot be sure where. It might have been interest.co.nz
  
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  April 4, 2023 4:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Why? Why are they doing this?
What is the purpose?
https://2020conservative.com/theyve-developed-a-disease-strain-that-has-an-80-kill-rate/

There are some that think the original Covid 19 was from a Lab in Carolina, US
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April 4, 2023 4:42pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Anyone think Jacinda will come clean about a few things on TV3 News @6?
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April 4, 2023 5:28pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
  Apoligies to EJ.
  
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  April 4, 2023 6:18pm
kevn

No, not in her modus operandi. Ever.
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April 4, 2023 5:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I went into a state of suspended animation when the Jacinda Ardern_- John Campbell interview came on TV One.

But I’m sure I saw WEF logos lurking in the background.
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April 4, 2023 6:25pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  YIP…ma said she watched that horrible sychophantic Campbell
  
  Made her throw up in her throat 🙁
  
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  April 4, 2023 6:32pm
  - Flossie
    
    I was calling for a bucket! Ardern AND Campbell at once.
    He was his typical sycophantic best, and she was at her bobbing headed and guerning best.
    
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    April 4, 2023 6:53pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      And OMG Floss, what about Chippie appointing bobble-head as his… ‘Special Envoy for the Christchuch Call’!?
      
      Her snout will be in the taxpayers throgh forever by the sound of it 🙁
      
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      April 4, 2023 7:20pm
      - Flossie
        
        Not at all surprised are we.
        What did amaze me is her joining Prince William’s earthshot thingy. I was sure she was a devout follower of republicanism.
        
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        April 4, 2023 7:25pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Flossie @ 7:25PM
        Communists will use anybody to enhance their own notoriety.
        
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        April 4, 2023 7:56pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        From what we hear, the 3 of them got an invite to the Coronation.
        Probaly all on the taxpaters tit no doubt!!
        
        SHEESH
        
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        April 4, 2023 7:57pm
waripori

How come this is not a national scandal
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/east-coast-farm-collapses-after-maori-carbon-group-takes-over

The Maori Carbon Collective featuring names like Hone Harawira and Mark Solomon ( as well as Michelle Boag for sone reason ) buy 4000 acre Horehore station on the East Coast for 13 million dollars for carbon farming last year, spray all the grass and then have Gabrielle sluice the top 6 inches into the Pacific ocean via a river that may never recover. Dont you need a resource consent to do that?

The farm last changed hands for 1.8 mill about 10 years ago. As a farm that might raise say 3500 lambs a year it might be worth 3 million dollars.

Leave it up to James Shaw to to explain how 13 million makes sense as carbon farming that feeds no one and Marama Davidson to balme CIS males for this act of vandalism.
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April 4, 2023 6:55pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And let’s not mention how Exotic forestry was retained in the ETS scheme.
  
  Wouldn’t have had anything to do with Lobbying by Carbon Farming foresters, I s’pose.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/472662/maori-forest-owners-hopeful-exotic-trees-will-be-kept-in-emissions-trading-scheme
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/129414379/government-douses-its-proposal-to-limit-exotic-forests
  
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  April 4, 2023 7:40pm
kevn

Lovely pair grimacing at each other. Just go.
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April 4, 2023 6:59pm
Swifty

Gays speak out against trans-terrorists:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq_TUlW1-mw
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