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So, Eli Rubashkyn, who assaulted Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker) and who was all bravado after the event saying she would, do it again, face up to the consequences and had numerous people ready to financially support her in any legal action, has run off to Australia.
Saying she feels unsafe in NZ and is getting hateful messages on-line so has no intention of returning to answer Police questions on the matter of her assault on Ms Keen-Minshull.
This is typical of a self-promoting activist; all talk in a bunch but absolutely gutless when having to front reality. The police should issue a warrant for her arrest and seek Australian authorities help in getting her sent back.
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March 30, 2023 8:04am
- Lee C
  
  Listening to HDPA’s inerview with this person told me all I needed to know about their world-views.
  
  It was basically a fantasy-world-view.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:25am
  - CRM114
    
    Classic, ‘My feelings’ trump the rule of law.
    Violence is not ok, except when I do it because…something something, Nazis.
    Chlöe Swarbrick and her ilk enable this behavior.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:42am
    - Hollyfield
      
      She’s now complaining “she’s scared”. She was all in favour of scaring other women though.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:03am
      - Paulus
        
        And a waste of Tomato Juice !
        
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        March 30, 2023 1:09pm
  - Richard
    
    Agreed. Sounds like a very troubled individual in need of psychological help.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:36am
- Matt Long
  
  no, i think Australia is a great place for him. Now that he has refugee status in New Zealand that opens the door for Australian residency.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:28am
  - Colville
    
    Yip.
    Issue an arrest warrant.. one less on out social welfare bill.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:41am
  - pdm
    
    matt – saves us the cost of deportation as long as he stays in Ausrralia.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:42am
    - rockape
      
      You can’t deport citizens.
      
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      March 30, 2023 8:47am
      - Matt Long
        
        Unfortunately.
        
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        March 30, 2023 8:50am
      - Matt Long
        
        Although, maybe she could apply for refugee status in Australia.
        
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        March 30, 2023 9:07am
- Random T Person
  
  Dude Eli Rubashkyn is a DUDE. He has bailed to Aussie, not ‘she’. No amount of pretending makes Eli a woman.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:44am
  - Random T Person
    
    Actually I think it is a SHE trying to be a DUDE. Man, this tranny stuff is confusing.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:13am
    - Matt Long
      
      Rubashkyn has XY chromosomes but a genetic condition where normal genital and sexual development does not occur.
      It must be an exceedingly difficult condition to deal with socially and intrapersonally.
      None of which excuses assaulting Ms Parker, however Ms Parker will have done very well out of events with regard to the formation of a political party?
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:40am
    - Ghost
      
      Born intersex, assigned as male at birth, transitioned to a female according to her wiki
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:42am
      - JerJer
        
        Mentally challenged I would say. Bordering on [Mod – deleted]
        
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        March 30, 2023 9:46am
      - lifesgood
        
        How do you know? Isn’t she/he Colombian. Why and how is this trouble maker in the country? I’m disgusted with the Herald calling this person ‘they’. As far as I know it is one person. If you don’t know what sex it is just call it ‘it’, not the multiple ‘they’.
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:34am
      - kowtow
        
        lifesgood
        
        “They’re coming over for dinner”
        
        “Oh really , how many places should I set”
        
        “Just one”
        
        ‘But you said they’
        
        Is it any wonder everyone’s confused..
        
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        March 30, 2023 1:27pm
    - Surely Knott
      
      Eli is intersex. Raised a boy. Named Luis. Then grew boobs. Learned what intersex was. Then came to nz on the proviso that she could get gender recognition as a woman without surgery.
      
      She also has many different surnames.
      
      https://www.valijadeapocrifos.com/post/furatena-bereshit-e-intersexualidad-la-historia-de-eliana-rubashkyn
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/past-haunts-transgender-wedding-day/Y2EGQHVJKEKJS7VPBPAH3CFXGA/
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:48am
- Cassandra
  
  She has lots of options: Israel, Colombia and Ukraine. Colombia probably the safest. Suggest she stops her criminal behaviour here and buggers off to any one of them. My preference is Ukraine where her offensive attitude will be welcome, throwing tomato juice at Wagner soldiers will work a treat.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:06am
  - Alex
    
    Anyone know what country this bloke/Sheila was from?
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:22am
    - Matt Long
      
      See Maggy W below.
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:42am
- emmess
  
  Good
  Misogynistic men who dress who involve themselves in thuggish behaviour should feel unsafe.
  I don’t think Australia is the right place for it (don’t even know or care or stupid pronouns) either, how about Iran?
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:08am
  - Paulus
    
    How did she/he get Refugee Status in New Zealand ?
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:11pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Seems safe enough to travel overseas
      
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      March 30, 2023 7:05pm
- rouppe
  
  I think I read that police have issued a formal “come see us”.
  
  If that is ignored, that can lead to a warrant to arrest. Which I think can be executed in Australia with agreement from those authorities but I’m not sure about that.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:19am
slightlyrighty

Say it Loud, Say it Loud.

I’m a Cisgender Bloke, and I’m proud!
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March 30, 2023 8:04am
- Taieri
  
  I’m a Cisgender Bloke
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  What’s “a Cisgender Bloke”?
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:23am
  - Ehlana
    
    A bloke who knows he’s not a sheila.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:39am
    - pdm
      
      Ehlana – I prefer your way – shortened to.
      
      I am a bloke.
      
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      March 30, 2023 8:43am
      - kowtow
        
        Yep , using “cis” is doing it their way .
        
        A woman on HDPA talking about blokes masqerading as birds in sports put her right , quick sharp , when HDPA used the “prog” cis term.
        
        We shouldn’t give an inch .
        
        Same with the top down imposition of Maori terms that no one uses or understands.
        
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        March 30, 2023 9:05am
      - Tom Hunter
        
        Yep , using “cis” is doing it their way
        
        It certainly is:
        
        Volkmar Sigusch was born in 1940 and became a renowned sexologist and physician who played a big role in the 1960s sexual revolution. He was the director of the Institute for Sexual Science at the clinic of Goethe University in Frankfurt. He was a writer and editor for cultural magazines that focused on sex and psychology. @heyitsjuderose called him a “pedo sympathizer” in her video and pointed out that he’s the first person on record to coin the term cisgender “as an antonym to transgender.” The term first came up in a peer-reviewed paper called “The Neosexual Revolution.” Sigusch is also “credited as some kind of pioneer for the LGBTQ movement” as well as the sexual revolution in general.
        
        And what a surprise…
        
        It’s curious that Sigusch would refer to Woody Allen to define good sex, when he could have said literally anything else. In that same interview, Sigusch was asked what the biggest taboo is in sexuality today. He answered, “Clearly child sexuality, including everything that goes with it – pedophilia, pedosexuality.”
        
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        March 30, 2023 9:17am
    - Yvette
      
      “A bloke who knows he’s not a sheila”
      
      Ehlana – that loose definition also covers those who are homosexual:
      blokes who prefer intimate company of other blokes
      but also, those who identify as the gender they were born with –
      lesbians?
      and those who have not transitioned to anything else until they think about it: (in using your perhaps ‘flippant’ terminology which may not suit everyone – but who’s terminology does?) –
      togs, togs togs – undies
      bloke, bloke, bloke – sheila
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:05am
      - Yvette
        
        Apparently –
        Cis – Those whose sense of their own personal identity corresponds to their birth sex.
        The prefix “cis-” comes from the Latin meaning “on this side,” as opposed to “trans-” which means “on the other side of” or “beyond”
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:28am
      - Ehlana
        
        We started with cisgender bloke, so I defined it in terms of a male who is happy being male (regardless preference for sexual partner).
        
        In my terminology, a woman who is happy being a woman would be a sheila.
        
        I make no guarantees for the safety of any bloke who actually calls a woman a sheila though.
        
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        March 30, 2023 11:21am
    - hullkiwi
      
      …and knows it.
      
      And no Marama, it doesn’t mean we go around assaulting women (prosecution and conviction statistics of domestic violence are a racist, woke affront to white law abiding New Zealanders).
      
      Until people like Davidson and Ann Dury stop playing fast and loose with domestic violence, it will remain the problem in NZ that it is.
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:36am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    When I was born, and the doc said, “It’s a Boy!” a little voice in my head said, “I concur!”
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:13am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      When I was born, I was so ugly the first think the Doctor did was slap my mother.
      
      Then he said “It’s a boy!” and I looked down to verify. When I saw he was right I said to him “story checks out” and went looking for a milk-bar.
      
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      March 30, 2023 8:33pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    It’s a completely meaningless term – everybody in the entire world is cisgender.
    
    The term describes somebody who is still the same gender as they were when they were born, which is all of us. Nobody in history has been able to successfully change their gender, and nobody ever will.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:44am
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Schinegger
      
      Some might call this as a successful change of gender, especially as he went on to biologically father a child.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:28am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Anyone who called it that would be 100% wrong. There are an infinitesimally small number of people born intersex but their gender status does not change. They will still typically have primary sex characteristics of one of the two possible genders, as happened in the case of Schinegger.
        
        “Before the 1968 Winter Olympics in Grenoble, a medical examination revealed that Schinegger was genetically male. Schinegger, whose gender had not been correctly identified for years due to inward growing genitals, a so-called pseudohermaphroditism, decided to have surgery and change his first name from Erika to Erik.”
        
        Realising after some time that you’ve been a male your entire life is not the same as changing your gender, which cannot be done.
        
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        March 30, 2023 11:32am
    - slightlyrighty
      
      Marama uses it as an insult, so I will wear it as a badge of honour!
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:38am
- Planet B
  
  Can we not have a better name that cis?
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:39am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Can we not have a better name that cis?
    
    Why?
    Why buy into their bullshit?
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:34am
    - Alex
      
      Planet B didn’t Cis used to mean Cissie a derogatory term like weak male!
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:44am
      - Ian Boag
        
        Nah. It’s Latin – cis = “on the same side” and trans = “on the opposite side”. Has its origins in chemistry and something called isomers. Wikipedia explains it…
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:03am
      - Planet B
        
        Some words sound nice and some have a hideous feel when they roll of the tongue. Cis reminds me of something a science fiction writer would come up with for a breed of evil aliens. Nothing more to my question than that
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:17am
  - Surely Knott
    
    You don’t need a name for being a woman or a man. It is what you are.
    
    By saying you are cis normalises the ideology that you could be a different gender to your body. And that your body and gender aren’t linked. They are. You literally are a woman because of your body. Can you be a masculine woman, or a feminine man …sure. But does being a masculine woman make you a man. Does wearing different clothes or adding silicone breasts and taking hormones change you into a woman.
    
    I don’t believe it does. It’s transhumanism.
    
    I personally believe the correct word is Woman or Man. And if you want to recreate yourself as something else then that is the action that needs a different description.
    
    I wouldn’t call myself a cis-human because this person is a trans-species.
    
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/kz5bxa/eva-tiamat-medusa-dragon-lady-transgender
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:57am
- Simon
  
  slightlyrighty. Are you more right now after watching the Gween party organised violence of the week end?
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:41am
- Ruawai
  
  Don’t subscribe to their altered language and definitions, call yourself a male or female.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:46am
- Maggie's partner
  
  it’s more accurately called a Normale
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:43am
- thirteenstars
  
  In honour of Posie Parker:
  
  Bloke: Adult Human Male
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:05am
- Rich Prick
  
  Yep. Sorry trannies, we’ve always been prepared to accept you, but you set your thugs on women who hold views that scare you. We will not tolerate that. I’m not sure whether you deserve a place at the table after last weekend.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:27pm
Warren

Chris Hipkins is determined to be the Prime Minister after the next Election with his bribe for construction of a second Harbour Crossing brought forward from 2040 to the 2020’s.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/second-auckland-harbour-crossing-prime-minister-chris-hipkins-to-bring-forward-construction-to-2020s/6A5RNUF4TZEU5G3WY6EF26O2BU/
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March 30, 2023 8:05am
- greybeard
  
  Yes, as soon as I heard that this morning my first thought was”Oh right, another diversion from all the real problems in NZ”.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:26am
  - I remember when
    
    Chippy ‘We’ll have to have a look at That’ Hipkins.
    Hasn’t taken him very long to settle in.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:53am
  - Tricati
    
    All Luxon has to ask is ‘who is going to pay for it’ and the wheels will fall off very quickly.
    Its a good ‘Show us the Money’ opportunity that would lead to a number of embarrassing questions for Robertson.
    
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    March 30, 2023 11:11am
    - Ghost
      
      National put a lot of work into a second harbour crossing and will no doubt continue that work
      
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      March 30, 2023 11:22am
- Matt Long
  
  He may as well announce commuter flights to Mars in the 2020s.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:30am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Warren – it’s all Labour have. “Aspiration” and bribes. Good to see Hipkins carrying on the tradition.
  After the debacle of the last 5 years, the lies, broken promises, abuses of human rights, illegal introduction of laws under emergency, total failure in every key policy and area of administration, absolutely nothing positive achieved, the country in massive debt and fractured socially, rampant crime, completely ineffectual police force, disintegrating infrastructure – did I miss anything?
  
  Anyone voting for more of the same needs professional help.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:35am
  - Nickc2
    
    did I miss anything?
    * A racially and sexually divided country?
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:49am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Nick2 – yup, divide and rule being the primary tool used to by the neo Marxists to get to the deliberate state of disarray we currently find ourselves in.
      
      People divided into multiple groups and classes are much easier to control.
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:42am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Given light rail was promised by 2021 the reality is for this crossing is that it wont appear, assuming it appears, unitl 2040 at the earliest.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:53am
    - RoboRob
      
      Sadly many will vote labour believing that this will actually happen (or that they care about it).
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:18am
    - Nickc2
      
      Hipkins knows he’ll be Worm fodder by then so they can promise anything in the meantime.
      I’m surprised Bridges didn’t point this out to him seeing they appear to be besties now eh?
      
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      March 30, 2023 11:21am
  - Swifty
    
    New Zealanders would be extremely foolish to believe any undertakings coming from the Labour Party.
    
    Doubly, triply, so for large infrastructural projects with huge budgets and with long timeframes.
    
    Labour have proved repeatedly that their blandishments are meaningless. Not worth the parer they’re written on.
    
    They are nothing but snake-oil merchants.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:03am
    - Paulus
      
      But 53% of the voters voted for them last time, and many will do so again, and we worry about our Education achievements!
      
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      March 30, 2023 1:18pm
      - blue collar
        
        Nah brother Paulus , labour are finished . Only question is how big will the landslide be ?
        
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        March 30, 2023 7:12pm
  - crikey
    
    Hipkins is playing the old ‘I’ve got a bridge I can sell you’ con.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:36am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      We need a few bridges back down here in Gizzy _Northern HB.
      
      How long does it really take to shove in a Bailey Bridge or 3?
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/isolated-residents-may-be-forced-to-wait-two-months-for-bridge-to-reconnect-cyclone-ravaged-areas.html
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:29am
      - I remember when
        
        Add Central HB to that.
        Tutaekuri is bereft of bridges at present.
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:58am
      - blue collar
        
        Muggy , the bridges will go up quick smart , so long as they throw the resource management act out and do it under emergency works .
        Old school style ( put machinery in a river n just do it ) to hell with sediment n fish n ecologists n iwi n regional council n district council , nzta , archaeologists , incompetent engineers
        Rivers recover quick , just let the boys do it and take the handbrake off
        
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        March 30, 2023 7:18pm
    - Paulus
      
      How do you know it will be a bridge ?
      Because it has to have a cycleway.
      
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      March 30, 2023 1:19pm
- Simon
  
  Hipkins is giving some of his voting base what they want. Massive payoffs for producing shit.
  
  What is National delivering for its nominal base? Those that work and produce goods & services that keeps NZ from sliding into the third world.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:45am
- 7kiwi11
  
  I had to check the date, I thought it was April Fools Day!
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:55am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Wait for tomorrow’s announcement…..
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:30am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lol! This clown is better suited to stand up comedy. Least he has some material to use, however briefly it would last, from his time in Government. Hey! Did you hear the one about the Government that promised everything and and in 6 years delivered nothing? Bah hah hah!!!
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:55am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Haha, like the Dunedin hospital, they brought Bill English’s plan forward to try and hood wink the voter, it’s still an empty section and it was supposed to be finished by 2025, the cost to be 1.2 billion , i see the cost is now 1.58 billion, and the buildings have been hugely downsized to smaller than what we have
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:02am
  - RoboRob
    
    They turned down a private offer for a ‘donated’ hospital. If they had accepted it would be done by now.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:19am
    - Tarquin North
      
      Why do they keep voting for Labour down that way?
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:30am
      - RoboRob
        
        Dunno. They do in Christchurch too. I think its almost habit, you grow up in a Labour voting house and then go on to vote Labour.
        
        I grew up in Jim Anderton land. You voted Labour right up to when Jim switched to alliance, and then you voted Alliance. Voting anything non Labour / non Anderton was soemthing you didn’t mention to others.
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:58am
  - gravedodger
    
    Yep yip on the money “G” Swmbo recently had a short stay in the crappy old building that was past its use by date years ago.
    I asked a gnarly old worker bee “how is the new Hospital going” a very short succinct reply ensued, “I saw a bloke with a Rake down there the other day”.
    message ends.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:16am
  - Taieri
    
    it’s still an empty section
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    It isn’t empty. There’s a crane and a digger there yesterday.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:49pm
- alloytoo
  
  It’s an excuse to hire a who new department of consultants.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:02am
- kujira
  
  Nearly pissed myself laughing!!!!!
  Lets look at what they promise and what they deliver
  – Dunedin Hospital – now going to be smaller than existing one which is not big enough
  – Rail to the airport – to be started by ??? when was it again?
  – 10,000 new Kiwibuild houses? How many again?
  
  So i estimate that what this really means is that $100million will go to consultants / Labour members to do Sweet FA over the next 5 years except collect a cheque and then the $2 billion cost will actually be $10 billion and will only be a 1 lane tunnel or worse
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:05am
  - RoboRob
    
    They couldn’t even put signs on speed cameras.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:20am
  - Matt Long
    
    A rail tunnel with light rail to the airport for games at north harbour stadium.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:30am
  - rockape
    
    10000 new house per year, total 100,000. Just another election lie from Labour. They may have changed leader but it’s the same old team of liars.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:43am
- Random T Person
  
  Ooo look a bridge! LOL. Remember the righteous shellacking Simon Bridges got for the Bridges of Northern County.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:15am
- 103PapPap
  
  I hope they set up an organising committee like they have in Wellington – Lets Get Wellington Moribund!
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:49am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Hipkins – “we are addressing this problem by……oh look! Ah rabbit!!”
  
  Muppet.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:15am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Will private motor vehicles be allowed to use it, or will it be for buses and scooters? We’re deep into the existential threat that is ‘climate change’ dontcha know.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:13pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  If only Robbo hadn’t blown $100B on the covid scam, we might even have been able to afford it
  
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  March 30, 2023 7:09pm
Scott

The violent assault on Posie Parker highlights to many the violent nature of the trans movement.

Very sadly we have a Christian school in Nashville where a former pupil, a woman identifying as a man, murdered 6 people in a mass shooting.
A bit of research finds other instances of mass murder by trans people in the United States –

“In less than five years, we’ve had four people who identify as transsexual committing a mass shooting.

In November of 2018, Snochia Moseley, a man who identified as a woman, wounded three and killed three after opening fire at his place of employment in Aberdeen, Maryland.

In May of 2019, a Colorado woman who identified as male shot up a school, killing one and wounding eight.

In November of 2022, a Colorado man who shot up a gay nightclub, killing five and wounding 18, was identified as transsexual.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/28/nolte-four-transsexual-mass-shooters-less-than-five-years/

So in less than 5 years the USA has had four mass shootings from a group of people who make up a fraction of one percent of the population?

Maybe we all should reevaluate this whole trans thing? Maybe gender dysphoria is actually a mental illness?
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March 30, 2023 8:05am
- herb1
  
  Not to mention the trans movement in the US announcing “a day of vengeance “ protest days after the trans massacre.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:23am
- Pavel
  
  For quite a while now I’ve been reading foreign, non Anglo, news. Most sites allow commenting and it is quite interesting to read. In a lot of their comments we are often painted as sick, devious, evil, godless perverts. We can sit here and try and justify our behavior all we like but we will never get them to buy into and accept this way of life. The west is fast turning into a sad joke to the rest of the world. Our reputation is going down the drain and the rest of the non Anglo world has no desire to follow us.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:41am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Pavel – it will sound like US bashing, it isn’t, it’s an observation.
    Since not long after WW2 when the US was rightly lauded for the defence of democracy and freedom from oppression and looked up to as a great example to the rest of the world, something changed.
    
    The overthrow of Mossadeq in Iraq in 1953 was the first of countless interventions in countless countries, which were justifiable is a big topic of debate. Needless to say, many of the countries intervened in aren’t happy re the outcomes and can you blame them?
    
    The collective “west” is seen through the same lens. Seen as “imperialists”. The others are moving on and forming blocs to enable transition. The US dollar is being dropped in many places. It looks like even the Saudis are joining with the BRICS.
    
    The whole idea of the “rules based international order” is a fake construct from the US to justify much that is unjustifiable.
    One small example, the US military occupying a third of Syria illegally and stealing their oil as Trump stated publicly. Love him or hate him, he says what’s on his mind.
    Not a word uttered in our media about this illegal invasion but obsession with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
    It’s fairly obvious why the rest of the world perceive us this way.
    Downtick away. Or argue what I’ve said is wrong. Fill your boots.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:27am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Downtick? Oh, I think you’ll find there’s a strain of anti-Americanism that’s alive and well in NZ, and I don’t just mean among the neo-Marxist woke but among old school New Zealanders.
      
      So your opinion ain’t exactly going out on a limb. You won’t get tomato juice poured all over you or be punched in the face by a big bloke in dress.
      
      The United States is the greatest civilisation this planet has ever seen. Mistakes aplenty? You bet.
      
      Perhaps you like the British as the top dog. Well, they indulged in several centuries of genocide, slave trading and generally turning up on someone else’s beach and saying, bugger off, this is ours now. But they also brought the rule of law, basic rights and representative government to vast swathes of the world.
      
      If you want perfection in a major power you’re going to be sadly disappointed.
      
      Lots of worse choices out there. When the US falls perhaps China will suit better.
      
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      March 30, 2023 11:16am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        thirteenstars – you’ve done the predictable, assume I’m bashing the US somehow. No, read it again. It’s all observation in response to what Pavel said. It’s all verifiable. I stated facts. If I missed something or misrepresented something point it out.
        
        As for the US being “the greatest civilisation this planet has ever seen” – that’s an extremely debatable comment. What are their achievements versus those of say the Roman Empire?
        
        Yes, the US is responsible for much good since they sat down and wrote their incredible Constitution. Right up until the assassination of Kennedy I believe they were still a magnificent example of how a system should run. A lot has gone wrong since then, I put much of it down to the rise of the corporation which seem to be able to exert so much “influence” on government policy.
        
        I don’t have any wish to live under Chinese rule. Actually I don’t want to live under any rule, I want to live in a free and democratic society, and I fear we’re rapidly having ours in the west eroded from underneath us. The last 3 years in NZ were an eye opener into how democracy can rapidly be eroded.
        
        I don’t care for myself, I’m at the tail end of my life. I care for our collective kids and grandkids.
        
        As for “lots of worse cases out there” – I agree, a bit like the choice of political party in NZ, neither is appealing but we have to have one.
        Lesser of two evils and all that? I’d prefer if we could just drop the “evil” bit and get on with it.
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:09pm
      - Phronesis
        
        No ones asking for perfection. A little less uncritical swallowing of American propaganda would lead to a likely more accurate understanding of the world. The Ukraine war for instance is going pretty much as Russia would have expected it to. They are happy holding their line and haven’t seen the need to escalate. What exactly are they achieving? Not much in Ukraine but look at what else has happened. The destruction of Nord stream was more interesting geopolitically than the Ukraine war itself has been. Energy flows into Asia. Strengthening of allegiances outside of the western bloc. The world has changed quickly in the last few years. Ukraine has been polarising, much more so than western media will admit, and that may be the entire point of the war.
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:16pm
      - Taieri
        
        The United States is the greatest civilisation this planet has ever seen.
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        Not true. The Maori civilization is the greatest. Everyone knows that.
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:51pm
      - thirteenstars
        
        “assume I’m bashing the US”
        
        Didn’t say you were.
        
        I referred to the strain of anti-Americanism that has long existed in this country as a reason you might not get a lot of downticks.
        
        And this country could do a lot worse than emulate the US in terms of its respect for vigorous free speech, and its strong focus on localism in politics which gives Americans far more control over the policies that directly affect them.
        
        And the way in which this country is implementing at every turn an apartheid system where Maori voices have more weight than non-Maori voices, at every level of central and local government, would not get past the first challenge to it in the most lowly court in the US.
        
        You want a strong democracy with a vigorous debate, then go to the US, or fight for it in this country because you’re about to lose it. On balance, the US is doing just fine. We are not.
        
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        March 30, 2023 1:10pm
- Simon
  
  Green party organised violence. The woke system can not function without violence.
  
  https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic
  Ethical Skeptic’s Eleventh Axiom
  
  An ideology that cannot be defended by means of evidence and deductive logic, will inevitably be enforced by violence.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:49am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Simon – as stated by Bertrand Russell in 1954.
    
    The important thing is not what you believe, but how you believe it. If you think that your belief is based upon reason you will support it by argument, rather than by persecution, and will abandon it if the argument goes against you. But if your belief is based on faith, you will realise that argument is useless, and will therefore resort to force either in the the form of persecution or by stunting and distorting the minds of the young in what is called “education”. This last is particularly dastardly, since it takes advantage of the defenselessness of immature minds. Unfortunately it is practised in a greater or less degree in the schools of every civilised country.
    
    Bertrand Russell – Human Society in Ethics and Politics (1954)
    
    We’ve had 40 years of this slow creep of indoctrination in our education system. We reap what we sow.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:40am
- MCōs
  
  How many thousand mass shootings were perpetrated by cis males?
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:57am
  - alloytoo
    
    The problem with your question is that “Cis” males don’t identify as “Cis” males.
    
    They identify as “Communist” or “Socialist” or “Nazi” or “White Supremist” or “Islamist”
    
    “Cis” isn’t an ideology which drives action, it’s simply a slur.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:50am
    - thirteenstars
      
      You’re right, cis is a slur. It’s probably hate speech, like saying a man can’t have a penis, which got Posie Parker labelled a Nazi.
      
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      March 30, 2023 11:23am
    - MCōs
      
      Did the half doz of so killers identified above perpetrate their deeds because they were transgender or generally ’mad at the world’ like all the others?
      I watched “Waco” the other day. One of the spectators caught on camera was Timothy McVeigh who became so wound up at the FBI he bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, killing an indiscriminate number of people.
      He didn’t do it because of his sexual orientation. He hated government authourity. From what I read most of these school shooters hate the school, including this latest one.
      
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      March 30, 2023 3:25pm
      - Ghost
        
        This case so far looks like she was really struggling with the death of someone she loved. She was under care for emotional problems. But sadly people will just see she was a transgender.
        
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        March 30, 2023 3:37pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes and more sexual violence or pedophilia is perpetrated by straight men than by Homosexuals, but as a proportion of their respective populations people with various sexual disphoria issues are far more likely to offend against others.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:51am
    - Phronesis
      
      https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648
      
      From 2014, would probably never see the light of day now. Of course the high rates of domestic violence observed among homosexual couples is blamed on society being mean to them.
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:22pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    There is no such thing as a cis male. That’s a construct to inappropriately label and smear a whole subset of people.
    It exists only in warped minds.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:29am
- Debsta
  
  Yes Scott we absolutely should. It is another form of body dysmorphia, which is defined as…
  
  “A mental illness involving obsessive focus on a perceived flaw in appearance.
  The flaw may be minor or imagined. But the person may spend hours a day trying to fix it. The person may try many cosmetic procedures or exercise to excess.”
  
  If someone thin looks in the mirror and sees fat, we acknowledge them as anorexic (a mental illness) and try to help with that.
  But if you think your body has the wrong gender bits, we must agree wholeheartedly and try to make your body fit your mental illness.
  How fucked up is that?
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:04am
- kowtow
  
  They are not only violent .
  
  They are anti democracy .
  
  They oppose free speech and free assembly ( demonstrated at Albert park).
  
  They also seek to impose their extremist ideology in schools and throughout , initially public institutions, as well as influence private institutions to adopt same.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:09am
- Nickc2
  
  Are you suggesting that NZ’s gang members who randomly shoot up houses may, in fact, be Trans Sexual?
  That’ll solve the problem eh?
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:26am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Of course it’s a mental illness, has been since first identified by the American Psychiatric Association.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:47am
Matt Long

How does it help the case of trans activists protesting against women who want their own safe spaces to advocate violence against those same women and their supporters? I’m told Twitter is full of this, but here’s an example,
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/az-gov-hobbs-press-secretary-resigns-after-tweet-suggesting-gun-violence-against-transphobes
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March 30, 2023 8:11am
- Matt Long
  
  The shooter in Tennessee has been labeled a Transwoman, which I thought was a man who believes he is a woman, but several articles imply a woman who thinks she’s a man, any clarification?
  If a biological woman shooter , is that a first?
  For Trans shooters there has been one in Colorado Springs who is non binary,
  A trans shooter in Denver
  A trans shooter in Aberdeen
  The Trans shooter in Tennessee.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:19am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Matt Long – I’m pretty sure this was a woman who wanted to be a man. Potentially taking strong pharmaceuticals including testosterone which is know to increase aggressive tendencies which wouldn’t help with anger issues and perceived injustices.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:42am
    - lifesgood
      
      I’m sure you’re right, ClanMc. That’s what I’ve been thinking. Seems the world never learns and in a few years time this will turn into a scandal the way thalidomide did. Because a mentally ill person says I want to change sex (impossible, I know) that doesn’t give doctors the right to chemically alter their bodies. Shameful, utterly shameful but the world will reap what it has sowed.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:44am
  - Sideoiler
    
    ……If a biological woman shooter , is that a first?…..
    
    No, pretty sure one of the earliest “School Shootings” was a woman.
    Brenda Spencer 1979, Boom Town Rats wrote a song about it called I don’t like Mondays, she did it because she didnt like Monday’s.
    Charles Whitman shot students at a Texas university in 1966 from a clock tower, not really a schoool shooting as such.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:29am
    - Matt Long
      
      The silicone chip inside her head has switched to overload.
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:46am
    - Opie
      
      Im guessing that song is cancelled then?
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:06am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Yeah.
  
  Previously I’d thought that men who genuinely believe themselves to be women, and take active steps to make their actual bodies and appearance match that internal perception, are sadly deluded, but harmless and to be treated with kindness and civility.
  
  My main concern was with the possibility of men with bad intentions getting a free pass into women’s spaces, where women are likely to be at best made uncomfortable and embarrassed by their presence, simply by saying “I’m a woman”. It’s hardly contentious to observe that sometimes men lie in order to get what they want from women who don’t want to give it to them.
  
  That remains a concern, and as far as I’ve seen no attempt at all has been made (except in this very forum by PaulL) to even acknowledge the risk, let alone consider how it might be addressed.
  
  As a result of the Auckland event, though, however, I’m now reassessing the first viewpoint as well. That’s what the activists’ thuggery has achieved.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:55am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It is similar to how folks advocated for schizophrenic and pathologically disturbed individuals to all be treated in the community because they are not going to harm you.
    
    And that is statistically true… most seriously deranged folks are more likely to harm themselves than others, but it doesn’t mean that a mentally ill person will never ever harm a random stranger.
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/people-filmed-running-away-amid-unfolding-situation-in-auckland-s-lynnmall-shopping-centre.html
    
    Or, similar to how the Parole Board releases violent folk back into the community……usually it’s OK…but now and again….
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/131105317/psycho-next-door-to-be-sentenced-for-murdering-woman-while-on-parole-for-rape
    
    I believe we should treat all folks with kindness and civility, but we should never be so naive as to think that each and every person will respond in kind.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:44am
Maggie Pie

Transgender Colombian Chemist has friends in ‘high’ places…..

https://twitter.com/Nicola07832777/status/1640957633422331905

😀 😀 😀
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March 30, 2023 8:13am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Wonderful start to the day! Cheers Maggie.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:19am
- Frank the tank
  
  I’m still trying to understand how you become a refugee out of Colombia.
  
  It’s not like there is a war or anything going on in the country.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:22am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She has a page on Wikipedia that tells a tale….
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliana_Rubashkyn
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:47am
    - All_on_Red
      
      What a story
      If the NZ Police do issue a Warrant then she is probably going to have another bad experience at the Airport when she comes back…
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:13am
      - RoboRob
        
        Lol. The police wont issue a warrant. They only want to have her in and have a chat with her so they can be seen to be doing something. If they really wanted her they could have grabbed her at the event or picked her up at the airport on the way out.
        
        The reason they didn’t do either is that they were not interested. They are interested now because its starting to look bad in the media. We have a police commsioner thats concerned about image, not crime.
        
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        March 30, 2023 9:23am
    - Matt Long
      
      That’s well worth a read Maggy, thanks.
      Rabashkin has a genetic trait that stops the expression of XY chromosomes resulting in atypical development.
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome
      Amnesty International states 1.7% of the population have some intersex characteristics. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/10/its-intersex-awareness-day-here-are-5-myths-we-need-to-shatter/
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:14am
      - Richard
        
        1.7% seems far too high.
        
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        March 30, 2023 9:55am
      - Matt Long
        
        Yes, it is high , it includes those who have genetic traits with no physical expression and presumably very minor physical traits.
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:15am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Roborob – “We have a police commsioner thats concerned about image” – a great analogy for every aspect of this government since they came to power.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:54am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Thanks, Taiwan & Hong Kong
      
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      March 30, 2023 7:22pm
  - Inandout
    
    Frank, well Pablo Escobar was and is still popular in Columbia and his trade lives on.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:50am
- Tricati
  
  Both have now gone missing and not available to answer questions – Nothing but hollow attention seekers with little to offer
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:24am
- JimBobJoe
  
  More serious though… This thread accessed via your link
  
  https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1641045431168946176
  
  The old lady punched at the Posey Parker event is said to have been seriously injured….
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:44am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Here we go JBJ…lets see what the Police do with this!
    
    https://twitter.com/BrynnNeilson/status/1640937192238481408
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:41am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      The pictures 2/3rds down the thread in my link are pretty clear. He needs to be identified and questioned. If it is found he is the perpetrator of the assaults – well charges have to be laid.
      
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      March 30, 2023 1:04pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Look in the ugly pile
      
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      March 30, 2023 7:24pm
- Paulus
  
  Did I not see a photo of her/him with our wonderful Jacinda Ardern. Just two of them.
  I think it may have disappeared.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

” With so much factual proof that the 2020 election results were manipulated, Americans must demand assurances that future elections cannot be stolen.”

This type of corruption is reserved for third World banana republics. The Democrats don’t care, not even when caught cheating. All of those recorded night time ballot drops never made it to Court, of if it did, corrupt Dem Dudges threw it out.

https://thedailymojo.com/election-software-used-in-us-is-connected-to-internet-uncertified-and-able-to-backdate-election-records/
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March 30, 2023 8:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Biden got 81 million votes my left tit. 81 million is more than any presidential candidate in history, but that is not cheating?//
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:17am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    You do know that as populations rise, so do votes, right?
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:05am
    - Matt Long
      
      Is that the dead population? 😊
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:18am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The population did not rise to any effect between Trump’s 2016 landslide and Joe’s 81 million in 2020.
      “Election Software Used in US is Connected to Internet, Uncertified, and Able to Backdate Election Records”
      So that is not cheating? Just the result of a boom in population?
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:18am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Steve Otto – just for you, 40 seconds long and guaranteed to raise a smile.
    
    “81 million votes”
    
    https://youtu.be/BDNO4vWF0MY
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:48am
- Simon
  
  Illegal ballot harvesting. The Dems illegally changing the rules the GOPe were in on as well. Trump Admin though could have prepared better.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Donald Trump made a mistake. He knew there was a swamp, but when he became POTUS he found out how big it really was.
    All he did was pick off a scab. He discovered a pus filled festering sore. It has been going on for decades. The Democrats want their swamp back, and their repugnant lifestyle.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:20pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbEXkee1amI

AZ Judge Rescinds Order in Lake Election Suit, Software Used By States Can Backdate Election.

Deep State goons over at the IRS are
apparently now targeting Matt Taibi the
journalist involved in exposing the
Twitter files as an IRS Agent shows up
at his home unannounced on the day he
testified at Jim Jordan’s hearing on the
weaponization of government. Newly
discovered election software that serves
as a go-between for Dominion and the
Secretary of State in several States
apparently uses plugins and can back
date election records the judge in Kerry
Lake’s election lawsuit rescinds his
order that scheduled key dates after
Lake’s state supreme court win.
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March 30, 2023 8:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Kari Lake.
  ——
  This is how it happens:
  ” With so much factual proof that the 2020 election results were manipulated, Americans must demand assurances that future elections cannot be stolen.”
  
  This type of corruption is reserved for third World banana republics. The Democrats don’t care, not even when caught cheating. All of those recorded night time ballot drops never made it to Court, of if it did, corrupt Dem Dudges threw it out.
  
  https://thedailymojo.com/election-software-used-in-us-is-connected-to-internet-uncertified-and-able-to-backdate-election-records/
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:37am
  - Paulus
    
    USA’s Political system is totally and legally corrupt as almost most South American countries, and paid for Judges can make new orders to suit his/her legislation, and anything to stop Trump from standing again.
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:26pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      He is standing and he will win.
      Some of the Judges he replaced but not enough. And yes they will do anything to stop him – even assassination if they get that deranged.
      Anything you get from any left media, take it with a container load of salt. They lie and they don’t care. Watch CNN for 30 minutes and you will throw up.
      
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      March 30, 2023 2:33pm
Bridgenag

Radio Check Radio ….excellent interview this morning. Missed the name of the heart Doctor. Worth replaying later if you have time.
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March 30, 2023 8:15am
- nathie
  
  Received a flyer for Reality Check Radio in the mailbox last weekend – good on them for promoting themselves!
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:34am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Most of their stuff is available on demand so you don’t have to be permanently tuned in. An excellent source of information that is a much needed counter to the controlled narrative in the mainstream.
    
    http://realitycheck.radio/replays
    
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    March 30, 2023 11:02am
- kevn
  
  @Bridge… UK Dr Aseem Malhotra. Totally on-to-the jab capers.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:35am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbj6lJMr-Ww

US Bills to Make CCP Repay $20.6 Trillion for COVID-19 | China In Focus.

Lawmakers are introducing a slew of bills targeting the Chinese Communist Party. From repaying trillions of dollars under the “China Lied, People Died” Act, to holding Beijing accountable for the #pandemic. What exactly is our stance towards China? Head of the House China Select Committee is questioning whether the U.S. sees China as the biggest threat to American soil. That’s after resident Biden lifted solar panel tariffs, citing Climate as the biggest threat. But what do you think? Should we work with China on climate or counter the communist regime? [Great idea!!! The money should go to every American over a period of time. The obvious way to do it is through a dedicated tariff. 16:39]
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March 30, 2023 8:16am
Southern Raider

How did our cops have instant video evidence to identify soul man and then did nothing but tell him that they may issue a warrant.

Now soup man is publicly stating he intends to stay in Australia for a while

Incompetence across our public service wherever you look
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March 30, 2023 8:22am
- alloytoo
  
  Aren’t Australia pretty pedantic about deporting criminals back to us?
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:05am
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t think Australia is ever going to deport someone for squeezing a bottle of tomato juice onto Posie Parker.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:06am
    - Matt Long
      
      We’ll have to wait and see what he does in Australia.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:17am
      - Tommo
        
        If he’s gone to Victoria, he’ll be just fine
        
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        March 30, 2023 10:29am
- Spring Bank Westie
  
  I applied for NZ Citizenship recently, after 60 years here I think I’ll likely stay!
  One of the questions in the application is along the lines of “are you planning on leaving NZ any time soon?
  Which presumably means “are you just applying for NZ citizenship so you can go live in Australia.
  
  Presumably then, soup man saying he’ll be staying in Australia for some time would be grounds to cancel his citizenship?
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:40am
  - Paulus
    
    Not sure he/she has NZ Citizenship anyway as he/she has Refugee status.
    To enter Australia from NZ you must not have a criminal record which, so far, she may not have.
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:29pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Eliana Rubashkyn was granted NZ citizenship in 2018.
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/04/raped-and-beaten-for-her-gender-identity-refugee-s-story-of-survival.html
      
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      March 30, 2023 7:36pm
Southern Raider

Polls must be forecast to look bad, let’s just announce another massive infrastructure project which under Labour would never even get to a consenting process
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March 30, 2023 8:23am
- Colville
  
  But how many Mil$ will their consultant mates suck down in the next 6 moths planning for it??
  
  How many Labour MPs are lining themselves up for jobs outside of parliament and doing whatever is required to get to the front of the line …??
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:56am
Southern Raider

It’s clear that public enemy number one to Davidson is a straight white male. Add meat eating farmer on top and you are the ultimate triple threat
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March 30, 2023 8:24am
- Warren
  
  Well what I would like to know is can anyone put any names to the far right media that many articles in the news are upset about.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:48am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Listening to Tova this morning, you would swear NZ has been awash with white right wing extremists since 2019…..apparently, they were even spotted in the crowd at the Posie Parker rally..
    
    Do the left & the woke realise how stupid their ranting sounds…..
    
    Smacks of the boy who cried wolf!
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:47am
kevn

Tunnel under the harbour not another bridge.
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March 30, 2023 8:24am
- Colville
  
  “crossing”
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:44am
- Its only I
  
  The Tunnel is a drain.
  Labour logic, build a drain big enough the bridge becomes a road….
  The sixth water of an “all the water” Co governance plan…drain water.
  Mahuta the looters relies will be set up as consultants and ford ute sales will break records.
  
  Stuff will fact check it…yes! roads are cheaper than bridges.
  
  Labour MPs will send details to their developer friends and half the country will go “like, omg, like isn’t lil chippy cute, I wonder what Jacinda is up to now she was my BFF, does my fat look arse in this outfit, OMG, like, this is my life right now…”
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:05am
- Gravelroad
  
  Hang on a minute @ Kevn, get in line!
  Inconvenienced ferry passengers who have had their bookings cancelled due to weather and incompetence around vessel maintenance, are calling for a road tunnel under Cook Strait.
  Not going to vote Labour unless there is vehicle tunnel under the sea quick smart.
  River of Filth Minister – they are looking at you.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:29am
- Paulus
  
  Where are the cycle lanes to go in a tunnel ?
  Use the existing bridge for Cyclists only.
  – Yea that’s it.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump says Biden has boxes documents in Delaware, and boxes in Chinatown.
Biden is getting paid by China.

Also, at Mar a Lago the storage room had a strong lock, but the FBI asked for another one. Plenty of time to survey the area and plant classified documents – although Trump has not said this.

https://pjnewsletter.com/trump-raid-info-tapes/
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March 30, 2023 8:31am
Maggie Pie

“I am a violence prevention minister and I know who causes the violence in the world, it’s white, cis men!”

– Marama Davidson (James Shaw’s side-kick)

Well seems it’s not ONLY cis men…..

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1641147556200579095
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March 30, 2023 8:32am
- Lee C
  
  Dear Marama,
  I genuinely do not give a f**k whether you apologise or not.
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Neither do I.
    
    A forced apology is meaningless.
    
    Clearly Ms Davidson views her fellow citizens and events through a race-based, gendered lens and I seriously doubt that anything is going to change her PoV.
    
    Her actions speak louder than her “mispoken” words.
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:57am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Maggy it’s the beauty of free speech. I now know exactly what she thinks of me and my sons.
      
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      March 30, 2023 9:01am
  - alloytoo
    
    agreed, empty apologies are meaningless.
    
    What we really need is a commission of enquiry into this domestic terror event.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:07am
  - Its only I
    
    She was voted in by the gangrenes to Co lead because this behaviour and thought process is what represents every single green voter the most, they are rotten.
    
    Interesting, was she voted in as a cis or a…?
    
    If a Green Co leader flips gender part way through a leadership term does the other Leader have to be changed?
    What if the more dominant Leader leaps back and forth over the fence hourly and and also doesn’t like labels so cant be identified as male or female “openly” but the heavily regulated rules demand the other Co leader is expected to be opposite at all times so has to keep up…creating resentment….
    That would involve having to pack a wig and a false beard when travelling wouldn’t it?..
    
    Imagine then, both co leaders were on stage giving a big long speech the “Dom” was talking and the “Sub” is standing beside the “DOM” with ambitions to take the “Dom” role… the “Sub” Co leader seizes the moment and starts flipping back and forth, ……….. wig……….. beard…….wig…..Mr…..Ms….beard, hair, beard, beard
    and the greens rules demand opposites at all times so the talker has to keep flipping opposites….Mr….Ms…..MR…..Ms……Mr….wig…beard….wig…beard
    The crowd gasps!
    The Dom is done, kicks off its ultra high heels and beard and leaves the building, the sub is king…queen…both… but mostly a queen.
    
    That’s why I go to our regional green meetings its F’ing hilarious.
    
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    March 30, 2023 9:49am
Lee C

Here’s a little quote from the 2013 book ‘Extremes’ (2013). Hodder & Stoughton Ltd., GB. 2013). Author: Dr. Kevin Fong. It’s about SARS.

“The virus had circulated in animals for many months. Virologists chased its origins back to civet cats. In teh food markets of Guangdong, with their exotic animal husbandry, it had moved from animal species to animal species before finally making the jump into humans.” (p. 154).

SARS emerged in 2003. Meanwhile: “Guangdong Key Laboratory of tissue construction and detection was established in 2001. Over three year’s construction, the laboratory passed acceptance inspection in October 2005.”

Two viruses, two time-events same locations, same ‘story’ about how they happened.

Tres interessante, n’est-ce pas?

Ps. Get Vaxxed!
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March 30, 2023 8:37am
Maggie Pie

My partner backed into the garage door once. We had it fixed the same day. To be honest, I’ve never given it another thought. Just saying.

“Hole accidently made in bedroom door synonymous w domestic violence by white cis-man”

– Julie Fairey (Spouse of Minster-for-Auckland)

https://twitter.com/juliefairey/status/1640851443522613249
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March 30, 2023 9:11am
- nathie
  
  Oh dear … does this sum the situation up?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6gkjr42v_E
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:24am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Disturbing comments on her twitter feed, but when we know what comes out of her partner’s mouth it’s not really surprising.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:22am
- hullkiwi
  
  Those Twiiter posts are concerning given who her partner is and the potential role he coverts.
  
  Has Julie spoke to Marama about this, I’m sure she can help.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:41pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  What an idiot
  
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  March 30, 2023 7:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Bryce Edwards sort of gets it….

“But we’re very sloppy in New Zealand. We’re very complacent really about corruption,

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/political-pundit-bryce-edwards-calls-for-anti-corruption-commission-says-stuart-nash-review-needs-to-see-if-any-mps-have-corrupt-dealings.html

Yesterday we had other legal pundits (Dr Dean Knight, Prof Andrew Geddis) assuring us that really there was nothing to see here…..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131634171/jacinda-arderns-office-knew-of-stuart-nashs-2020-email-hipkins-orders-review
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March 30, 2023 9:11am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Common theme? – PMPR’s dept instructions to “get the experts in” seeing as problems not going away?
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/marcelo-rodriguez-ferrere-law-expert-says-theres-no-indication-stuart-nashs-mistakes-amount-to-political-corruption/
  
  Seems however that Hosking doesn’t see much in the guy’s view given his thoughts in the first 3 items of today’s Re-Wrap ….
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/the-re-wrap/the-re-wrap-if-it-quacks-like-a-scandal/
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:17am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Posie Parker announces Political Party. Now let’s see the rabid left shout her down.
They will at campaigns of course, but they can not shout down Votes!
I do hope she is not unset with New Zealand. We are not all like those creeps last Saturday.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/anti-trans-activist-posie-parker-announces-political-party-calls-protesters-terrorists/ar-AA19c2oZ
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March 30, 2023 9:14am
- ClanMcleod
  
  SO – go to her website/FB/Twitter feed and leave a message to tell her that. Here’s the website.
  
  https://www.standingforwomen.com/
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Done. FB.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:31am
- mogg
  
  NZ Women are being given a voice outside NZ House in Central London because it’s too dangerous for them to speak in NZ
  https://www.youtube.com/live/xiZTtlrJgO0?feature=share
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Good video.
    There is an elephant in the room. Media will not mention it. Look at the Australian videos. Sure there was disruption, and the Police were between the protesters, supporters and Posie Parker.
    In Auckland, where were the Police? Hiding around the corner. Someone held the Police back, someone higher up. Who?
    The Auckland fight was planned by someone in authority, who?
    
    The elephant is still in the room!
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:36pm
- MikeMan
  
  She was on The Platform for nearly 45 mins this morning and Sean said they will be posting it in the Podcast section of the site.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:12pm
RoboRob

We are talking about corruption with Nash, I think a lot have people have missed a major problem with the police commissioner. I think he should be gone too.

When the story came out about Nash ‘talking’ to him about sentences he defended Nash saying ‘just mates letting off steam’. Now that Nash is toast he speaks up and says ‘oh yeah there may have been other times he called me too’. Sorry, your minister of police and you purposely withheld information to protect a friend. He should be gone by lunch, totally inappropriate for someone supposed to be enforcing the law.
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March 30, 2023 9:15am
Bob

A rather interesting three frame video relating to Saturdays rabble appeared in yesterdays basset Brash blog today.
If the speed smears in the second frame really were those of a passing motorcycle, then Davidson would have been flat on the ground, not standing and looking at the view.
Another imagined event promoted by our media perhaps!!
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March 30, 2023 9:27am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Marama Davidson knows who was riding the motorcycle….
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/marama-davidson-says-the-motorcyclist-she-collided-with-will-have-their-own-date-with-destiny/GAWUJRZH6BGSDD4TLSHOJOYFLU/
  
  I expect the cops can ~~stitch~~ sew this wee matter up in a day or so, now.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:55am
- Weinerpoop
  
  Yes, if the accident was really as bad as she has made out, then the video would have been made public
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:19am
  - Paulus
    
    Why was it so many hours after collision where Marama stepped off the pavement into the motor cycle as she was on her phone at the time and she did not go to the hospital some long time later.
    Afre all the media kerfuffle.
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:59pm
- Ehlana
  
  Is she actually claiming that one of the group of motorcyclists (Vision church?) who turned up before the event knocked her down? Or is it some other random motorcyclist?
  
  I’m genuinely curious because I walked around the outside of that motorcycle group to the front and all I saw was a guy off his bike, standing talking to the press. I’m sure I would have noticed a woman on the ground and surely someone in the police van following the motorbikes would have got out and come forward to take charge of the situation?
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:37pm
CAKE FACE1

Question. Will Cuddles Coster get fired? Should he be?
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March 30, 2023 9:28am
- RoboRob
  
  No and Yes
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think he just needs a warning…
  
  Which means he’ll be around for when Hipkins has to give him a second warning…
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:37am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Cuddles has been a naughty boy. Hiding, just like the Auckland Police.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:43pm
ClanMcleod

How and why the world went mad

In early 2020, the scene was already set for what many have called an episode of global Mass Hysteria, Mass Psychosis or Mass Formation. These terms are not inappropriate; many on Twitter were describing the Covid tyranny as a cult very early on and this video from the Academy of Ideas is excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

Critically, though, the outbreak of global insanity was not spontaneous; it came at a time when two key factors had shifted the Overton Window dramatically to the left over many decades:

Creeping Health and Safety regulation had provided a seemingly benevolent rationale for the ever-expanding reach of the state into everyday life.

Increasingly influenced by ‘Long March’ ideology, multiple generations had been processed through an education system seemingly as concerned with indoctrination with ‘Woke’ social justice concerns as with formal learning.

A very well written blog post examining the insanity of the last few years which enabled the covid cult to be imposed on an unsuspecting public.
Neo marxism playing a prominent role and NZ is right in the middle of it. The relevance of the rise of neo marxism and the insanity of the covid response are tied together. This is well explained in this post.

https://johnsullivan.substack.com/p/a-journey-of-a-thousand-miles

Elon Musk has adopted the phrase ‘Woke Mind Virus’ and that is as good a phrase as any to describe the sickness with which the world is now afflicted. Covid itself never grew exponentially for more than a few days or weeks before natural immunological factors intervened – but there was no such brake on the growth of the mental disease.

We must then combine all of the above with the ‘social justice’ ideology of the Long March neo-Marxists – seeking out ‘oppressed’ or otherwise wronged minorities wherever they can find (or imagine) them, and inventing new corruptions of language on a daily basis; ‘institutional racism’, ‘cisgender’, ‘climate denier’, ‘birthing parent’, ‘chest feeding’, ‘white privilege’ and dozens more.

Little wonder then that, when Covid appeared, words like ‘infection’, ‘case’, ‘safe’ and ‘effective’ held so little real-world meaning that they were hijacked by ‘public health’ charlatans pushing a far-left activist agenda, and social media personalities looking to monetise, or otherwise leverage, their growing follower counts.

Mainstream media reporting was so far unbalanced in favour of the alarmist narrative, and any ‘sceptical’ voices so severely censored, both by the MSM and on social media, that public discourse was utterly distorted in favour of the apocalypse. We never had a chance at a rational response.

Indeed, we never had a chance at a rational response and in NZ, we still don’t. No questioning of the covid response is permitted in the media. No questioning of the covid response is permitted in our parliament. Not one MP apparently has a different view to the official narrative that we were bombarded with in the last 3 years.
Most countries around the globe now at least are starting to recognise that if nothing else, mistakes were made, that the “vaccines” don’t work as promised and that all the interventions caused more harm than good. Only a couple of exceptions, NZ and China…….

Neo marxism indeed. National, Act, NZ, wake up and see what is coming. It must be stopped.

https://johnsullivan.substack.com/i/110390417/how-and-why-the-world-went-mad
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March 30, 2023 9:32am
- ClanMcleod
  
  If you looked at my post and thought, that’s a bit long, I’ll give it a miss. Here’s a short paragraph from near the end to give you a taste of why it’s worth reading it all.
  
  We are now a bureaucratic, moribund country unable to complete the most straightforward of national infrastructure projects, hospitals, new roads, house building programs? All bogged down in red tape and escalating cost over-runs. We can’t even fix pot holes in a timely and effective manner.
  
  No, they aren’t talking about NZ………it’s a disease and it is spreading throughout the west. If we don’t realise this and fix it very soon, we are going the way of all the previous great civilisations. Greeks, Romans, Egyptians etc etc etc.
  
  We are being destroyed from within. Time to get rid of the cancer.
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:47am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

5 Harbour crossings unveiled by Transport Minister.
But what are they? Basically a nothing item.
“A new walking and cycling link across the harbour is considered in each scenario.”

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/five-auckland-harbour-crossing-options-unveiled-by-transport-minister/ar-AA19eDfA

Great, we have not had anyone ‘falling’ for a while. Well, I have not heard about any.
As I said somewhere else, there will be no second crossing in my lifetime, and I will not clock out for 20 to 25 years.
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March 30, 2023 9:34am
- I remember when
  
  Stop Press:
  Another announcement by Labour about – what they might do, one day, if they can decide what.
  As presumably only one is intended, they now have to come up with a plan for their preference.
  Should be easier to do than actually have to start on one.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    May start in 2029.
    
    Then again, may never start.
    Here is a good idea. Some leftie clown years ago said use helicopters to take people across the harbour to waiting shuttles. There would be room for bikes as well.
    Yes, they are that mad and stupid. Can’t find anything on the Google Machine.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:50am
- Ehlana
  
  “”I don’t think there’s going to be any shortage of political support for a second Waitemat[a] harbour crossing. The key thing now is we’ve just got to get on and make sure that’s going to happen.”
  
  No wonder our children are failing in mathematics, when our politicians cannot accurately count the number of vehicle crossings of the Waitemata harbour we already have.
  
  Does anyone know why there is this continuous talk of a second crossing for a harbour that already has two crossings?
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:55pm
JimBobJoe

Lindsay Mitchell on Marama Davidson….. And why her rhetoric is all bs

https://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2023/03/responding-to-marama-davidsons-dogma.html?m=1

As most guys who have been in relationships with passionate woman know… Some of them can get a little carried away with their fists or what is handy to throw…
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March 30, 2023 9:38am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I must admit I found that item by Lindsay Mitchell really disturbing to read.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:03am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    In what way distrubing?
    
    The whole violence thing is in our genes and not just the Y chromosome….. We have a violent capacity because its evolutionary useful…
    
    The thing people focus on is the outcome of violence…. So a man goes full noise violent on a woman, well its horrific. And thats an average man… A large man or a man with real fighting experience its more than horrific.
    
    Its why we have societal mores about boys not hitting girls. Not because a 5 year old boy and a 5 year girl hitting each other is especially dangerous.
    
    No its about socialisation to prevent the same hitting when they are adults, when the damage an average male can inflict has escalated massively compared to the average female.
    
    The outcome focus masks the fact we have a lot violent females as well… But again generally the damage inflicted is not on average as bad… And men are conditioned not to talk about females hitting them as it makes them look weak
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:36am
- I remember when
  
  Lindsay Mitchell:
  “She showed her bitter antipathy towards white CIS men.”
  
  She was hit on a pedestrian crossing by a motor cycle.
  Suggestion was that it was one of Bishop Brian’s men.
  
  What are the odds that the rider was a white CIS male.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:19am
- Matt Long
  
  I’ve read elsewhere the relationships where violence is most prevalent is lesbian partnerships.
  Maybe Ms Davidson should revisit her bigoted antireality views.
  Probably the reason male domestic violence is more visual is because in general males are more efficient at it, which is another reason males should not take part in woman’s sport, especially boxing or rugby.
  Emo Phillips, A computer once bet me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:46am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Computer chess! Same with Backgammon.
    Get ahead and watch the bastard start throwing double sixes!
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:54am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  My ex-wife smacked me on the ear with a rolling pin once.
  I thought that was just a joke story until it happened to me.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:52am
Maggie's partner

Gutted for Tova, really am. I hope she gets a gig making coffee for Hosking or something
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March 30, 2023 9:45am
- BeaB
  
  She’ll pop up again somewhere. Perhaps on Red Radio.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:07am
- Frank the tank
  
  Too white and attractive for OnePravda and unlikely to crawl back to Newshub/3.
  
  Perhaps her ex Flatmate needs a PR advisor?
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:11am
  - leoj
    
    Flatmate and BFF has made her fortune.
    Tova is on her own.
    Ain’t life a bitch?
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:57am
- Sideoiler
  
  Gutted for Tova, really am. I hope she gets a gig making coffee for Hosking or something
  
  What has happened to her, do tell.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:37am
  - Ghost
    
    On all news sites, the radio station is closing down, they’ve been given today to submit a proposal to keep their jobs
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:52am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Awesome, best news for weeks.
      
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      March 30, 2023 11:34am
      - jon
        
        ClanMcleod news of the demise of Media Works ZM has made my day. They ditched non woke hosts Plunket, Williams, Banks etc and lost so many listeners. Perhaps the advertisers on the station who had such a beef with the above named being on air, will now provide financial support to the now jobless staff. Maybe too, a more humbler Tova will emerge.
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:22pm
    - muzled
      
      https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/03/30/breaking-its-over-like-tova-today-fm-to-be-axed-after-worst-self-mutilation-in-nz-broadcasting-history/
      
      Now, I may seem gleeful watching this entire cluster fuck implode, and that’s 100% true.
      
      I did Talkback on Radio Live before it became MagicTalk and I was a political commentator on MagicTalk as well as their host of the 2020 Election Night coverage (where we called the election first), until I was culled when it mutated into the deeply flawed Today FM.
      
      Today Mediaworks finally killed Today FM, after bleeding $9million into the branding and after buying all their credibility capital! Sources tell The Daily Blog the decision to kill off Today FM has been made and discussed weeks ago.
      
      The madness of the level of self inflicted fuckwittery here is unequalled in NZ Broadcasting.
      
      I pointed all of this out to Mediaworks Management when they first did this.
      
      Watching the exact thing happen that I warned them about is glorious.
      
      If I had a dollar for every dumb middle management fuckwit who has no idea of how to run political talkback, I’d have enough to start my own station!
      
      What is so insane about all of this, is that it could have worked, but the Mediaworks Management refused to listen.
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:04pm
      - emmess
        
        I am starting to like Bomber Bradbury
        Maybe someone can give him an extra vote.
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:44pm
- thirteenstars
  
  It’s all over Red Tova.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:28am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Tova: ‘They have f****d us’
  In an extraordinary few minutes of radio, Garner was joined on air by fellow host Tova O’Brien, who said the company had “f***ed us”: “We are all going to lose our jobs,” she said.
  
  “We’ve been on-air for just a year, we were told we had the support of everyone from chief executive to the board to the executive.”
  
  Garner said: “This is betrayal.”
  
  Awwwwww diddums……..best news this year. Probably the anti vaxxers fault eh Duncan? Tova?
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:39am
  - Ghost
    
    It’s always sad when people who have worked hard lose their jobs. And then there is Tova.
    
    Betrayal Duncan is being a mouth piece for a government, never questioning them and closing down free speech. Many of you forgot what your job was as the media and instead became a mouth piece
    
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    March 30, 2023 11:50am
Loddenthinks

I see the nonsense at $1uffed continues apace – today’s alarmist twaddle is something about Antarctic Bottom water, and how if something that isn’t going to happen happens, something really bad that also isn’t going to happen might happen, and that might mean fewer fish, or the end of the world, or something.

It involves those tired standbys – “climate change”, emissions, models (ha!) and the usual leaps of logic so great that Bob Beamon would be proud of the distance covered.

“The modelling took millions of computing hours, and the team only ran one scenario where humans produce increasingly high amounts of greenhouse gas.”

When asked what would happen if “humans didn’t produce increasingly high amounts of greenhouse gas” the lead “scientist” said: “We’d need to go do the runs to be sure” and this gem: “But compared to the stability of previous millennia, “it is pretty dramatic””

He didn’t say what the remedy to this computer-modelled Armageddon was, but we can be fairly certain it involves more tax and fewer cows. Yeah, right.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131619273/something-is-wrong-with-the-antarctic-bottom-water
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March 30, 2023 9:54am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And gosh, we won’t really know what is going on until 2040…and so someone had better come up with $ome $$$$$ for the next 20 years as we fluff around with our computer model$……
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:08am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Seriously, don’t read their lies – it only encourages them.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:36pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    How would they know? I doubt they come here…
    
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    March 30, 2023 8:34pm
- kowtow
  
  Oddly enuff the Herald was full of the exact same thing.
  
  I don’t bother reading their fear porn but I wonder both stables must be part of the media propaganda effort called Covering Climate Now .
  
  So all they’re doing is spreading someone else’s ideology ( like they follow the regime’s bidding on actively promoting the principles of ToW )
  
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  March 30, 2023 2:02pm
Caine9

So, is anyone really surprised that the Prime Minister did not know about Nash’s misdeeds regarding spilling the beans to donors?
Whether she was told or not, deniability is the key to her “transparency” and as Nash had some use, being “officially” unaware would have been very advantageous.
They are probably the most incompetent government I can ever recall so it is inevitable that lies and deceipt are used to cover up misdeeds that could embarrass them even nore than their tragic performance as a government.
I don’t believe for a moment that Ardern didn’t know. It’s just symptomatic of her BS.
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March 30, 2023 10:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’m not surprised that Ardern didn’t know.
  
  She didn’t (and doesn’t) know lots of stuff.
  
  She definitely wasn’t a 2nd Helen Clark
  
  I’m pretty sure she didn’t know how unpopular she’d become until it was too damn late to retrieve her “image”.
  
  I’m pretty sure she didn’t know she was going to be rolled.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda was aware of many things, and she knew they were catching up with her.
    That is why she headed for the hills.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:19am
    - Matt Long
      
      She was aware of what was on her teleprompter and how to wave her arms about and frowny face.
      As aware as Joe Biden.
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:00pm
BeaB

Who is the person in maternity hospitals who has the job of assigning sex. ‘That one will be a boy’.
‘That one’s a girl’.
Can the parents appeal?
Do they look inside the nappy?
Or is it random?
Can we find out who assigned us our sex?
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March 30, 2023 10:02am
- Ghost
  
  Doctor shakes baby up and down and it jingles it’s a boy. If it lectures the doctor and threatens legal action it’s a leftie. If it giggles and smiles it’s a girl.
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:07am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I thought when the Doctor smacks the baby’s bum, the dicks fall off the silly ones!//
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:14am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      OK, I’ll get my hat and coat.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:16am
Jethrod

It sounds like TODAY FM is gone, with Tova and Garner goneburger,!
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March 30, 2023 10:07am
- Lance
  
  Oh… just imagine the hissy fits there.
  I thought Tova was going to take all of Mike Hosking’s audience because she was smarter …….
  Bra ha ha ha ha ha
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:19am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Tova: ‘They have f****d us’
    In an extraordinary few minutes of radio, Garner was joined on air by fellow host Tova O’Brien, who said the company had “f***ed us”: “We are all going to lose our jobs,” she said.
    
    “We’ve been on-air for just a year, we were told we had the support of everyone from chief executive to the board to the executive.”
    
    Garner said: “This is betrayal.”
    
    lololololololololololololololol
    
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    March 30, 2023 11:43am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      They had the support of everyone from the CEO to the Board – but not the support of the person that pays the bills, and decided against flushing yet more money down the dunnie.
      
      Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:04pm
- rouppe
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/mediaworks-today-fm-hosts-invited-to-meeting/TSJKSHICWZASPIDIYKCTFZNDXY/
  
  No sympathy
  
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  March 30, 2023 10:29am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    They were crazy getting rid of Sean Plunkett. Replaced by two people who discuss whether cheese and mince pies are better than steak pies.
    
    One of them – can’t remember which one – said that specifying ‘pronouns’ was a load of crap and she would not do it. Next day she gave a groveling apology and told listeners she was being sent off to re-education camp.
    
    No wonder their ratings are in the toilet.
    
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    March 30, 2023 10:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Plunket’s guests on The Platform are Gems.
      I do not listen, but I follow links to important bits.
      
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      March 30, 2023 10:59am
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        Indeed – he interviewed Kellie Jay Keen – AFAIK the only journalist in New Zealand to do so. He then gave airtime to someone who opposed her views.
        
        I read somewhere that back in the 1990s he was a host on Radio NZ. Hard to believe. It must have been a different radio station back in the day.
        
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        March 30, 2023 11:02am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Kim Hill on RNZ interviewed PP also
        
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        March 30, 2023 8:10pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      My partner KNEW they’d be f**ked when he heard Miles Davis had gone there.
      
      LOL!!
      
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      March 30, 2023 11:07am
    - kowtow
      
      Peter Williams was streets ahead of Plunket , who still acts as if he’s more important than his listeners .
      
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      March 30, 2023 1:56pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Competing with taxpayer funded Red Radio for woke listeners was always going to be a losing proposition.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:53pm
  - nathie
    
    Regardless of the ethics of some of Today FM’s presenters the fact remains MediaWorks has again handled this both appallingly and disgracefully (like they did when they killed of MagicTalk because of their fear of the woke Twitter brigade).
    
    For MediaWorks to kill off the station in this manner (mid broadcast) is another blow to their reputation – who on earth will trust them now to seek employment with them?
    
    MediaWorks now has form – they killed off Radio Live, MagicTalk and now woke Today FM.
    
    One wonders then when former Turkey CEO Cam Wallace left he knew MediaWorks’ financial position may be rather precarious? Just saying that after hearing the 2pm news on ZB where they suggested the looming recession is hurting the MSM?
    
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    March 30, 2023 2:41pm
- DistantObserver
  
  I mean Garner, what can you say. These clowns have no idea you actually need to earn the money to pay the ridiculous salaries they think they are worth.
  
  Both of their dumb comments here suggest they have no clue as to how a business works.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300842932/leaked-audio-from-today-fm-meeting-ceo-says-significant-savings-needed
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:03am
- H. Upmann
  
  $1Stuff will be next?
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:25am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    As soon as the PIJF runs out…..
    
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    March 30, 2023 11:49am
Maggie Pie

Remember when I coined the phrase here…

“GO WOKE – GO BROKE”

LOL!!
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March 30, 2023 10:09am
MCōs

There has been a general clamour for a second habour crossing for many years.
Some government or other was always going to give it the green light.
The problems are only now beginning. For a start who came up with the guesstimate budget number?
Construction drawings haven’t even been started.
Have engineers been sorted out to lead the project?
Somewhere down the track tenders will be called and being underground there will be plenty of provisional figures in there to cover unforeseen ground conditions.
Furthermore
Systems which are state of the art now will be overtaken by better gear, adding cost to the project.
Regulations change.
For example an accident in a tunnel elsewhere might show the safety systems in the Auckland tunnel need upgrading, after they’ve been installed.
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March 30, 2023 10:38am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Something like $75M spend on a cycle crossing. That never got past the talking and ideas stage.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:01am
- Colville
  
  Start at the start.
  Have all the affected properties been purchased or are in the process of being purchased?
  Because Public Works Act or negotiations will take a long time.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:22am
- Nickc2
  
  The project will be abandoned when they discover their first Taniwha lair.
  I’m sure the Greens will discover some long-forgotten Crustaceans before work commences eh?
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:02pm
- Drone
  
  I’m not concerned about the proposed Auckland harbour crossing, but I will suggest that to make it happen faster than getting Wayne Brown out with a shovel they morph the whole of the “Lets Get Wellington Moving” team to Auckland to make it happen. That’s after they finish building the second Mt Victoria tunnel.. Poetry in motion by New Zealand governments.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:31pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  The quality of the ground is one thing, the other is from where to where – and where will the 2nd bridge traffic join to major state highways?
  
  Suppose I better go look at the announcement and see where the proposed options are…
  
  Where every it drops in – NIMBYs will be out in force about not wanting it on there doorstep….
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:11pm
  - MCōs
    
    Wasn’t so much of an issue when then MOW/MWD did these mega projects.
    These days there’s no way a motorway could be built straight through the Bolton St Cemetery. Even at the the time destroying the oldest pakeha cemetery was a disgrace.
    The resultant motorway is a lemon.
    The Aurora Tce and Bolton St overbridges were so difficult to design because of the gradient I heard the design cost more than the construction.
    
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    March 30, 2023 2:52pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Aurora and Bolton is why all those well heel Public Servants who live in Kelburn have huge calves!
      
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      March 30, 2023 3:38pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      The Wgtn motorway is great, MCos.
      
      No, the only problem is that they didn’t complete it. Imagine the double tunnels at The aTerrace & Mt Vic, undergrounded through Te Aro & two lanes to the planes!
      
      In fact, imagine how much more pleasant Cuba St en environs would be without SH1 next door.
      
      The Greens, shooting themselves in the foot since forever.
      
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      March 30, 2023 8:17pm
CAKE FACE1

I may have to see my doctor.

I am suffering from schadenfraude from socialist suffering overload at the moment…
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March 30, 2023 10:44am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Delicious isn’t it.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:04am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Yes funny isn’t it. Sturat Nash, Marama Davison, Possie Parker, and now Today FM.
  
  I’m almost hoping this Labour clown show don’t stuff anything else up this week as I don’t think I can take much more this week.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Hang in there, never give up.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:04pm
- Burtland
  
  cognitive overload is bad – ask the Ministry of Education
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:52am
I remember when

Passion and trees aren’t going to solve climate change: Jacqueline Rowarth.
Her article included some interesting information on regenerative farming.
The government has invested over $57 million so far exploring the approach for NZ farming (which aligns with a transitional fund proposed by climate strikers and Greenpeace.)
Although GHG emissions have decreased per hectare under regenerative farming in NZ, they have generally increased or stayed the same per kg of product (and the quantity of product per hectare has decreased.)
Our producers are moving into a regime of rewarding lowest impact milk and meat.
Regenerative approaches look and sound good, but NZ farmers have not degenerated their soils – they haven’t been overgrazed for decades or been subject to monoculture cropping.

Much of the benefit of regenerative farming has been where land is subjected to desertification risk, or has had decades of large-scale single crop farming without rest rotations.
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March 30, 2023 10:46am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  ‘Climate change’ doesn’t actually even need solving.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:22pm
CAKE FACE1

I certainly hope that Mr Hipkins continues his weak approach, and doesn’t fire Marama.

She is toxic for both Labour and the Greens, and will continue to be a untreated festering sore for these parties.
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March 30, 2023 10:58am
- mandk
  
  I don’t think she is toxic for the Greens.
  
  That party is filled with people who think profit is an evil concept, people who hate the notion of the conventional heterosexual family, and people who reject the notion of an omniscient all-powerful creator but who would destroy the economy for the love of Gaia.
  
  Haters and wreckers, all of them.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:14pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Think “Assets”
    The more unruly the get the less votes they will get.
    Many lefties are going to hold their noses and vote Act. They can’t bring themselves to vote National, so Act will do fine.
    Sparrow said so yesterday I think.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:55pm
CAKE FACE1

https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/entertainment/2023/03/the-future-of-today-fm-is-facing-some-serious-uncertainty-this-morning.html

‘Tova, then Jessica.’

Incredible entitlement.

The woke socialists believe that they should be able to continue, even though they are making huge losses.

Socialists and other people’s money! I would laugh, except I am forced to fund these clowns, through my tax dollars.
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March 30, 2023 11:06am
- Swifty
  
  Let them put up their own money, risk their own houses and retirement funds.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:01pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  So Tova left her job, tried to start her new one before being invited to read the terms of her previous contract, sued, lost, had to wait out her 3 months restraint of trade, then joined her new station which has now been shut down after just 12 months.
  
  Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person!
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:02pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Lodden: I concur entirely…a nasty nasty leftie. I hope she finds great difficulty finding another job.
    
    (That’s pretty mild innit Mod??)
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:08pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      Agree re Tova – it does seem poetic justice. She was a bit of a one trick pony in that every story seemed to be about a challenge to Nationals leader. But I’m sorry to see Mark and Leah off air. They were far more entertaining than Simon and James on the other channel.
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:43pm
    - MCōs
      
      I never thought of her as a leftie.
      If you’re a hammer everything looks like a lefty I suppose.
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:46pm
      - Libertarians are right
        
        When National were in Government she almost only attacked National. When Labour were in Government she almost only attacked National.
        
        = Lefty
        
        Compare to Garner, Soper & HDPA who all attacked whoever were actually in power.
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:57pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        That’s funny – a leftie not recognising a fellow leftie.//
        
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        March 30, 2023 12:58pm
      - RightNow
        
        She might not be left compared to you, that’s all.
        
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        March 30, 2023 1:19pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Tova, then Jessica
  
  Does this foretend the end of Ms Too Much McKay?
  
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  March 30, 2023 8:20pm
I remember when

I see in the financial news from the US that they are concerned that commercial real estate is in danger of being the next problem area.
Will the increased mortgage renewal rates (and associated rents) mean the same here?
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March 30, 2023 11:11am
Surely Knott

The Trans-Activists are being encouraged to become armed, militant and violent and it’s gone mainstream on Etsy and Amazon. It’s an ideology that targets youth. This militancy is becoming normalised on tshirts and merch and in the events. I note that the young person who just went on a school murder spree had cute stickers on her weapons.

The best selling badge says “Defend equality” with an ak-47 silhouetted over the rainbow flag and a real handgun in the photo advertising it. You can buy the badge for $21.86. There are numerous different ads for the same product each with real bullet casings etc shown in the ad.

Their sold out tshirt is a rainbow flag with the same imagery..

Small pink and blue flag badges say “Fight Terfs”

“Armed Equality” is another slogan rainbow patch.

“Armed minorities are harder to oppress” stickers

A sticker shown to put on your laptop “Armed Queers Bash Back – LGBTQ, Queer, Transgender, AK47, Socialist, Firearms Sticker”

“Trans Rights or Else Tshirt” with 5 pink and blue ak-47 rifles. was selling on amazon but the page is now gone. Selling at multiple other stores.

Or this sticker that says “Celebrate Pride the old fashioned way throw a brick at a cop.” and molotov cocktail and guillotine merch.

https://www.trendstees.com/product/trans-rights-or-else-t-shirt/

https://www.etsy.com/nz/search?q=defend equality&ref=search_bar

https://www.trendstees.com/product/trans-rights-or-else-t-shirt/

https://offcolordecals.com/?product_cat=banned-merch
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March 30, 2023 11:23am
- Rich Prick
  
  The trans activists will no doubt feel emboldened by what they achieved last weekend. I sincerely hope they don’t ramp their behaviour up. They are not doing the LBGTQ+ crowd any favours.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:49am
- Swifty
  
  Gee, it doesn’t seem to me to be a very clever strategy to launch armed and violent campaigns when you are a tiny, tiny minority.
  
  But, if they do wish to head down this route I can direct them to some suitable marching and parade drills:
  
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2jLLMdEBw
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Great. They would have made a great diversion at Albert Park!
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:00pm
- Matt Long
  
  It’s a popular idea that biblical Sodom was destroyed for gayness but if that were true the British Navy would have been immolated hundreds of years ago.
  Words directed at Ms Parker are strikingly similar to those directed at Lot.
  “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them”
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:15pm
- kevn
  
  @SK… There is evidence that long term use of anti depressants can cause psychotic behaviour.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:20pm
Bobba Fret

Tova O’brien used to be so excited and glowing with joy when she was trying to get a National political scalp like Simon Bridges.
She doesn’t as positive in this audio, even swearing on air. I guess it is different when you are the scalp.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300842932/leaked-audio-from-today-fm-meeting-ceo-says-significant-savings-needed
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March 30, 2023 11:25am
- Swifty
  
  Petulant little child.
  
  I’m not getting what I want so I’m going to stamp my feet and use bad words, and I’m going to use company resources to do it live on air! Professionalism be damned!
  
  And if that doesn’t work I’m going to hold my breath until I get what I want!
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:56am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    Brutal world – she has 10 percent of Hosking’s listeners. What are they supposed to do? They tried to build a new station to take on ZB. It failed. Money run out. Game over.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:23pm
    - emmess
      
      The potential listeners told them where they could stick their balanced mic. LOL
      
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      March 30, 2023 12:30pm
- Inandout
  
  BF, Tom Day seems a nice person but I see a young Mr Bean in that video.
  
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  March 30, 2023 11:59am
- emmess
  
  Oh happy day
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:28pm
- Swifty
  
  I wonder if those who have slandered, maligned, slurred and labelled the private individuals who have put up their own money to establish The Platform will now call for public money to be put into Today FM to prop it up?
  
  It wouldn’t surprise me.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:32pm
- emmess
  
  This tells you everything
  
  Youtube
  
  The Platform which has been around a similar amount of time
  https://www.youtube.com/@theplatformnz
  21.6K subs
  
  Today FM
  https://www.youtube.com/@TodayFMNewZealand
  1.7k subs
  
  Even Reality Check Radio
  https://www.youtube.com/@rcr_nz
  which has been around a couple of weeks with nothing there channel but promos
  4.8k
  
  I’m sure their other socials had similar ratios too
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:38pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    I wonder what would have happened if one or two of their hosts had taken a stance supportive of KJK’s right free speech and to have the NZ police uphold the law? Sounds like it has worked wonders for the platform’s subscriber numbers!
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:05pm
- rockape
  
  I remember her outside a National Party conference in the earl evening doing a piece to camera. It was just her and the cameraman and me off to one side and not noticed. At her 6th attempt to get it right she started cussing the poor cameraman when it was her messing up her lines. I thought then” What a bitch” and I have seen nothing since to change my mind.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:55pm
- Ultima
  
  haha, Tova should do what she does best, take a mic. and cameraman, chase after the CEO, and repeat the same words.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:14pm
- kowtow
  
  Oh dear ,how sad ,never mind.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:47pm
- perfectvampire
  
  If Tova never finds a voice on the airwaves again, this country will be better off. She is an absolutely appalling and unbalanced interviewer; her constantly trying to put words into Luxon’s mouth on teaching history last week was disgraceful. Good riddance.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:55pm
- nathie
  
  Jeepers after listening to the audio, Duncan Garner and the others should have kept broadcasting (instead of doing as they were told and cutting to boring music). Kinda like “Pirate” radio!
  
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  March 30, 2023 2:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Denis Prager on socialism/communism.

https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/2325705197658630/
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March 30, 2023 12:07pm
MCōs

Duncan Garner I’ve never really cared much for and Tova O’Brien is patchy, but she was responsible for one of the real killer interviews which left the corpse of Jamie-Lee Ross barely moving on the interview room floor.
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March 30, 2023 12:20pm
- septic skeptic
  
  My impression was that the Tova vs JLR interview was a bit too personal for them both.
  Don’t mind Garner, sometimes I agreed with him, sometimes not. That’s fine.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:48pm
  - nathie
    
    The good thing about Garner on radio is that on his show he allowed callers to phone in quite regularly, allowing Garner to keep-in-check any of those other typical msm divergences on issues that didn’t resonate with the majority of people i.e. everyday NZers.
    
    If only Mediaworks were smart enough to keep MagicTalk with Peter Williams, Sean Plunket and brought in Duncan Garner (when Ryan Bridge replaced Garner on the AM Show), it would have been a great lineup. Sadly not to be and podcasts are now the way to go.
    
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    March 30, 2023 2:30pm
Bridgenag

SENT TO ME [haven’t had time to check if already posted]

I Used to be a Normal Person!
I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me privileged, racist, and somehow responsible for the 1840 musket wars.

I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which by today’s standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget, and support myself.

I went to School and have always held a job. But I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was “advantaged.”

I am heterosexual, which according to gay folks, now makes me homophobic.

I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.

I am older than 60, making me a useless dinosaur who doesn’t understand Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or Snapchat.

I think, reason, and doubt most of what the ‘mainstream’ media tells me, making me a Right-wing conspiracy nut.

I am proud of my heritage, making me a xenophobe.

I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair reward according to each individual’s merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.

I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort, not freedom of outcome or subsidies, which must make me a borderline sociopath.

I believe in the defense and protection of my nation for and by all citizens, now making me a militant.

I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I stand during our National Anthem – so I must be a radical.

Funny – it all took place over the last decade!

If all this nonsense wasn’t enough to deal with, now I don’t even know which toilet to use . . . and these days I’ve got to go more frequently so please stand clear !

GOD BLESS ALL OF US NORMAL PEOPLE!
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March 30, 2023 12:31pm
MCōs

National MP Simon O’Connor makes an attempt to score political points off the school killings in the US and after a withering backlash realized he’s made a fool of himself and apologized.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131644884/not-a-white-cis-man-national-mp-simon-oconnor-apologises-for-nashville-shooter-remark
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March 30, 2023 12:40pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I gave you an uptick by mistake. Simon realised he made a mistake as an MP. Unlike Davidson he apologised. He is one of the better National MPs and not a fool.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:50pm
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t care who he is he made a fool of himself of that occasion.
    Thanks for the uptick. cheques in the mail.
    
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    March 30, 2023 12:55pm
- Matt Long
  
  Yes another National MP apologies for telling the truth.
  Wish they could learn to apologies for lying.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:09pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Why did he have to say anything at all?
    Couldn’t he have kept his big gob shut and let the racist socialists waste their time digging themselves out of holes?
    I dunno- where is the party discipline?
    What is the matter with these National Party people.
    Now we will never hear the end of it, especially seeing as Mr O’ Connor is (gulp) of a traditional religious background.
    The heat’s off Ms Davidson and Hipkins. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:40pm
- RightNow
  
  He got his point across, job done.
  
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  March 30, 2023 1:25pm
Warren

Labour Pollsters have Minister Peeni Henare fawning over the look of a Labour- Greens- Te Pati Maori Coalition.
Labour Party internal polling of Maori Electorates has Te Pati Maori in Rawiri and also Tell Tai Hauauru where Waititi’s Co Leader Debbie Ngarewa Packer stood at the last Election and lost narrowly to Adrian Rurawhe.
With Rurawhe opting for Labour List only Te Pati Maori have the opportunity of taking two or three E lectorate seats and pulling four more MP’s off its list.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/minister-peeni-henare-likes-the-look-of-a-labour-green-te-pati-maori-coalition/XWRK2ZC5AJBYVHQKDAR5CJ7774/
I am sure if this is the trend there will be many posters on here really pissed off.
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March 30, 2023 12:43pm
- septic skeptic
  
  I’m only pissed off if the Maori seats are an overhang and thus a rort. But I risk being accused of throwing stones in glass houses as an ACT supporter!
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:52pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    ACT’s seat and votes were historically about right (i.e. about .7-.8% of the vote) so there wasn’t actually an overhang and certainly not an extra seat level of overhang.
    
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    March 30, 2023 1:29pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  To have 7 mps they would need 6% of the vote. Most would come from Labour voters.
  
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  March 30, 2023 2:37pm
Chuck Bird

FYI

Gender Reassignment – What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling

https://familyfirst.org.nz/2023/03/29/gender-reassignment-whats-happening-to-children-is-morally-and-medically-appalling/
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March 30, 2023 12:45pm
- Inandout
  
  CB, shades of that Nazi doctor who experimented on children. Bastards.
  
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  March 30, 2023 12:51pm
RRM

Does the lobby group MINDTHEGAP.NZ receive any taxpayer funding?

They’ve had a plane flying laps around the CBD for the last 20 minutes, towing a banner:

THANKS CHRIS HIPKINS FROM MINDTHEGAP.NZ

Doesn’t seem very good for the environment?
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March 30, 2023 12:59pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Looks like its funded by the Clare Foundation is the logo at the bottom of its website.
  
  https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/charities/anna-stuck-steps-out-of-rod-drurys-shadow-with-35m-charity
  
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  March 30, 2023 2:41pm
Swifty

Ever get the feeling you’re being swindled?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jBhju6GNNcU

How these people keep getting away with this astounds me.
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March 30, 2023 1:10pm
ClanMcleod

A new report estimates that 26.6 million people were injured, 1.36 million disabled, and 300,000 excess deaths can be attributed to COVID-19 vaccine damages in 2022 alone, which cost the economy nearly $150 billion.

That’s only the US.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bombshell-vax-analysis-finds-147-billion-economic-damage-tens-millions-injured-or-disabled?utm_source=
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March 30, 2023 1:12pm
thirteenstars

Another great drone video from the violence at Albert Park, Saturday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLhhEdGkB8s

The woman is punched right in the head/face by a young man.

Sickening.

But let’s just get around a table and come to some compromise with these people, right? There is no bloody middle ground between thugs and peaceful citizens exercising their right to free speech.
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March 30, 2023 1:58pm
- nathie
  
  I hope the women that were attacked by the pro-trans counter protesters are laying complaints with the Police – there is now plenty of video evidence to back them up and the thugs are clearly recorded.
  
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  March 30, 2023 2:23pm
- graham
  
  And yet, Auckland Pride is reported as tweeting:
  
  “There is a narrative quickly taking hold amongst anti-trans groups and individuals that Parker abandoned her event because of violence from our community.
  
  “We reject this narrative. We are of the firm belief that the demonstration of unity, celebration, and acceptance alongside joyous music, chanting, and noise of 5000 supporters was too loud to overcome and the reason for her departure – and not the actions of any one individual.”
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-rally-police-investigating-number-of-calls-about-alleged-offending-at-auckland-protests/Q4TSI6MZ6BDFFPNA5GUS2M67XA/
  
  They can reject the narrative all they like, but the evidence would appear to show otherwise.
  
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  March 30, 2023 2:23pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Herald in overdrive for readers has got this pathetic? Auckland Pride needs to look in the mirror!
    Oh, no, please don’t. Or if you must, take a photo.
    Never mind, I was going to ad, but it will get me in trouble.
    
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    March 30, 2023 4:16pm
CAKE FACE1

If National / ACT take the humble CAKE’s advice, and privatise Red Radio and State Television, what will happen to their extreme left wing woke presenters?

Go woke, go broke!

I have the feeling that quite a few of them (Tova, I’m looking at you) may need to return to the hospitality industry. Of course, I wouldn’t want to be served my pint in a place collaborating with far left extremists, so I’ll avoid any establishment that she works in.

In the end, it is about the freedom to choose. In normal circumstances, I wouldn’t celebrate people losing their jobs. In this case, it is different.

CAKE had no choice but to subsidise them – my taxes were used to fund these clowns. They had the arrogance and entitlement to use my money to promote extreme left wing ideology. It is simply outrageous.

I will be extremely joyful if all other State media is privatised, and these extreme left wingers and woke socialists get the same treatment.

My tax money might be gone – stolen by these extremist troughers – but perhaps I will get the last laugh?
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March 30, 2023 2:24pm
- thirteenstars
  
  ACT would, but the Nats? They can’t even offer parents the promise of funding so they can get their kids into private school and out of the Marxist horror show of public education.
  
  It would be a policy by now if it were important to them.
  
  Also, while I agree it’s extremely dangerous to have government-funded media, TV3 is private and is almost as bad as TVNZ. The problem is ultimately cultural, and the font of that problem is public education, which is dead, can’t be revived.
  
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  March 30, 2023 3:44pm
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    ‘Also, while I agree it’s extremely dangerous to have government-funded media, TV3 is private and is almost as bad as TVNZ.’
    
    That is not the point. I am comfortable with the private media being ultra left wing, as long as I don’t have to pay for it.
    
    If the private media go woke, what happens? The shareholders go broke.
    
    I don’t want to ban woke or socialist media. I just don’t want to pay for it. I don’t believe that this is too much to ask for.
    
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    March 30, 2023 4:15pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      Who the hell said anything about banning woke media?
      
      I’ve got a pretty radical view of free speech. I don’t think the government should even have the power to censor movies or videos, certainly not before the fact, and then it should be a matter for the courts, and there should be no public funding of media at all, or of the arts.
      
      “I will be extremely joyful if all other State media is privatised, and these extreme left wingers and woke socialists get the same treatment.”
      
      See, that *is* the point. TV3 ain’t going broke and it is most certainly woke. Rinse and repeat for print, internet and radio across NZ. Nearly all private, nearly all woke, and most not going broke.
      
      It sure as hell is a cultural problem and it starts in the woke *public* schools. That’s my point.
      
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      March 30, 2023 5:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Craters opening in the ground, the strange phenomenon in Turkey.
What is causing this? Come on, before you read it.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/craters-opening-in-the-ground-the-strange-phenomenon-in-turkey/ss-AA19dgKw
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March 30, 2023 2:37pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  One downtick. That must mean the downticker knows nothing about “climate disaster”
  Yep “climate disaster” Sounds familiar.
  
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  March 30, 2023 4:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Posie Parker.
“”Her visit has just crystalised something that’s been happening for a long time,” says Stephen Franks.”
“”The reason we’re getting so much street activity is that politicians have opted out,” he says.”
Well here you go Chris Luxon, something to get your teeth into. Or are you scared og transistors?

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/parker-s-visit-poses-plenty-of-questions/ar-AA19e0tu
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March 30, 2023 2:45pm
- mogg
  
  Hipkins said he is proud to stand with “Trans our most vulnerable and fragile group in NZ”.
  What does he think of abused children when on average according to Stats NZ a child is dying every 5 weeks, mostly at the hands of their own families and relatives.
  Trans are so vulnerable and fragile that last weekend they beat up on elderly women at the ‘letwomenspeak’ demo. Are abused children now chopped liver.
  
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  March 30, 2023 3:15pm
  - Ghost
    
    I’d be very surprised if this is even a supporter of trans, looks more like someone that just went there to let his caveman out
    
    https://twitter.com/BrynnNeilson/status/1640937192238481408
    
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    March 30, 2023 3:22pm
- thirteenstars
  
  also talks to Franks’ former ACT colleague, journalist Deborah Coddington, who wrote an opinion piece in support of transgender women. Coddington says people who support Parker’s right to speak do not understand that freedom of speech has its limits.
  
  And I would say that the people who were shouting her down and stopped her, that was correction of speech because what she is saying is factually incorrect,” she says.
  
  Coddington describes Parker as a smart PR operator who has faced similar clashes in other parts of the world but in a few weeks she will have been forgotten and everyone will have moved on.
  
  That is bloody shocking from Coddington, a former Libertarianz Party member and then ACT Party MP. She’s actually condoning violence because words are not violence and of the two sides at Albert Park, one was using words, the other was using fists.
  
  And it goes to show that *anyone* can catch the woke virus. It’s like being a zombie, they just shuffle around, undead yet unthinking, looking for others to infect.
  
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  March 30, 2023 3:56pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Deborah Coddington has always had a unique take on matters.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/standing-by-her-man/VYPPJF4WO2HOXOUSTRAK2NN3IY/
    
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    March 30, 2023 6:03pm
    - Swifty
      
      She was incoherent on RNZ’s The Detail tonight.
      
      Feverish, wild claims without a shred of evidence.
      
      Stephen Franks his usual excellent self.
      
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      March 30, 2023 7:52pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  ‘scared ‘of’* ffs.
  
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  March 30, 2023 4:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/first-human-case-of-rabies-detected-in-nz/ar-AA19fb5d

Well it comes from those rabid people.//

It came from an overseas visitor. They died. Does not say male of female, but that does not matter. Nothing about which Country they came from.
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March 30, 2023 2:52pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Odds are on India..
  but could be: China, Bali, South Africa, Vietnam, Thailand, Phillipines
  
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  March 30, 2023 5:46pm
herb1

Can anyone tell me why we’re not hearing Ardern being interviewed on important things in the world ,such as economic matters, War, Climate change etc.
It seems weird as the media are happy to seek comment and interviews from, Helen Clarke and John Key.
Is their something different about Ardern from previous Prime Ministers?
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March 30, 2023 2:59pm
- Ghost
  
  To interview her would take the attention off the new prime minister.
  
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  March 30, 2023 3:01pm
- lifesgood
  
  Because the complicit media knew all along that she is dumber than a sack of hammers.
  
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  March 30, 2023 3:47pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ouch!
    
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    March 30, 2023 4:30pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Um, the person with a Communications Degree is realising that Communications means to not communicate when the heat is on.
  That seems to be one of the reasons Jaspinda missed so many days at Parliament General Debate Question time.
  Love that overseas travel for basically nothing!
  Oh, the tank is empty, no more gas, no more get up and go. Wonder how her ‘special’ friends are doing? You know who they are.
  
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  March 30, 2023 4:38pm
nathie

So MediaWorks killed off Today FM.

On ZB’s 2pm news they mentioned how this may be due to the recession …

Oh is that the upcoming recession that RBNZ Governor saying publicly that he is engineering?

Is that the same upcoming recession that the Labour Govt of Jacinda Ardern and now Chris Hipkins, has supported Finance Minister Grant Robertson to spend/waste literally tens of billions of $$$ (if not hundreds of billions by now) on “nice to haves” and tokenism, of which this govt over expenditure has fueled inflation (internal factors in play here) which is enabling this recession?

It’s a tragedy that MediaWorks decided the format of Today FM will be “woke” and instead of holding the Labour Govt to account the radio station held the “non-woke” to account like National or ACT or “cis white men” or people wanting to preserve the status quo when it came to “co-governance”.

Pity MediaWorks didn’t continue with and strengthen MagicTalk (which used to run on the smell of an oily rag cost wise and staffing wise in comparison to Today FM), who were in 2019/2020/2021 doing an excellent job of holding Labour to account.

Imagine if MagicTalk, with their original hosts retained (but now also joined by a fraction of Today FM’s funding to bring in actual reporters and other quality hosts) were still around, they would have been thrashing the Labour Govt of 2022 and 2023 by holding them to account … eg like about their/RBNZ planned recession (that other MSM meekly accepted barely no questions asked)!

MediaWorks management and board = hopeless, out of touch, went woke and broke!
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March 30, 2023 3:00pm
Ghost

The person who tipped tomato juice over anti-trans activist Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull – also known as Posie Parker – has been charged with common assault.

A police spokesperson said a person has been summoned to appear in the Auckland District Court.

“As the matter is before the Court no further comment will be made at this time,” the spokesperson said.

Stuff
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March 30, 2023 3:05pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Not a lot of lurve being shown on Twitter.
  
  Calls for it to be jailed and allowed to play with the animals in Pare!
  
  https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1641263000437895173
  
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  March 30, 2023 3:55pm
- kowtow
  
  What’s the difference between being charged and being summoned ?
  
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  March 30, 2023 4:05pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Um, maybe that means a free trip back from OZ to face at a soft Judge?
    
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    March 30, 2023 5:07pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      Sadly no. the juice chucker has headed to the US.
      
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      March 30, 2023 6:12pm
      - Ghost
        
        Be interesting to see if they refuse her entry
        
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        March 30, 2023 6:19pm
      - Swifty
        
        That’s a good point Ghost.
        
        Isn’t the person now a fugitive?
        
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        March 30, 2023 7:33pm
Captain Mainwaring

Wonderful sight from Parliament today.
The idiot Genter gets the boot.
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March 30, 2023 3:39pm
- Swifty
  
  What happened Cap’n?
  
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  March 30, 2023 5:38pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    She withdrew and apologised for ‘telling the truth’.
    The speaker didn’t like it.
    
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    March 30, 2023 5:56pm
Ghost

And the next strike is

Up to 1900 Corrections staff who work in the community will go on strike next month after negotiations broke down between the Public Service Association (PSA) and the Department of Corrections.

The workers will walk away from their roles from 2-4pm on April 13, 20, and 27, after rejecting Corrections’ latest offer for a new staff pay rate.

Stuff
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March 30, 2023 3:44pm
thirteenstars

As mentioned early on in this TERF Talk (cute name) interview with one of the NZ Let Women Speak people, Terri, one of Posie Parker’s funders that brought her here was a Maori organisation, Mana Wahine Korero.

And they would be helping a white supremacist and Nazi, would they?

Same with the Australian Jewish Council calling the Nazis that showed up near (not at, mind you) Parker’s Aussie event “gatecrashing opportunists”. Again, a Jewish organisation is sticking up for a Nazi, are they?

The women being interviewed there is a lesbian, supporting Parker, again, all you need to know.

The trans-activists hate men, women, lesbians, gays, the whole gamut. And why? Simply because to legitimise the idea of gender fluidity they have to destroy everyone else who is gender specific, which includes lesbians and gays.

Store this stuff away, folks. Write it down, save the links. That’s how the forces of freedom win, by bringing up these inconvenient facts.
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March 30, 2023 4:17pm
Littletramp

Is it true that Tova O’Brien has just phoned Jamie Lee Ross, suggested bygones be bygones, and asked for a job?
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March 30, 2023 4:43pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Well it could be. She texted me for a job and I asked if she could mow lawns.//
  
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  March 30, 2023 5:15pm
Ghost

An announcement has gone out on Today FM, saying the station has closed.

In a voiced message, it said Today FM will be replaced by a new station on the same frequency in April.

The talkback station is now only playing music.

Stuff
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March 30, 2023 5:25pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  April is in two days’ time. We wait for April the 3rd – discarding the stupid people’s day.
  
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  March 30, 2023 5:39pm
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  The comments on the Herald’s Youtube clip are gold
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFtuXmcvTxw
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:16pm
Ehlana

A lawyer for a serial sex offender is now going to the Supreme Court to argue the offenders name should be suppressed permanently. The man was sentenced on rape, unlawful sexual connection and indecent assault charges and has now pleaded guilty to breaking his home detention conditions. There were 5 victims.

Apparently, the High Court placed ““insufficient weight” … on the hardship associated with social media” and “did not properly consider the risk to his mental health and … the impact of publication [which] includes him being unable to attend university.”

One wonders what weight he placed on the risk to his victims’ mental health before deciding to assault them.

It seems his lawyer thinks that “Where publishing a young person’s identity only serves to name and shame an offender and subject them to the risk of violence and exclusion from society, this is not fairly categorised as open justice.”

Perhaps being named and shamed may be seen as a reasonable response to assaulting five people.
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March 30, 2023 5:30pm
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  This is an interesting case, because this is also the teenager who last year was given a job in a school, until it became public and quit.
  
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  March 30, 2023 5:33pm
Ghost

Anyone with spark it appears they are having major mobile issues

Mobile customers may be experiencing a degradation of service since 15:22, we apologize for the inconvenience and our technical teams are working hard to get things sorted.

https://www.spark.co.nz/
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March 30, 2023 6:47pm
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  Some customers posted to social media this afternoon saying the issue has been ongoing since last night.
  
  In a post on Facebook, the phone company said they are aware of the issue and are urgently working to identify the cause.
  
  It explained customers could still make calls over Wi-Fi and data using apps such as WhatsApp, and that texts could still be sent and received.
  
  “We know how important it is for our customers to be connected so we apologise for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience,” the post read.
  
  The post to Facebook quickly amassed over 200 comments in just 20 minutes, many of which were disgruntled customers sharing their frustrations.
  
  “What about customers that don’t have Internet who are 86 and live alone and need a phone this is crazy,” one person wrote.
  
  “Great when I’m trying to run a business … I bet I still get a full payment bill next month though,” another said.
  
  Nz herald
  
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  March 30, 2023 6:50pm
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Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum, Trev. In more ways than one.

Young New Zealander of the Year – Trans activist Shaneel Lal
Senior New Zealander of the Year – Philanthropist Sir Mark Dunajtschik
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March 30, 2023 8:57pm
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  I see stuff say first trans winner, and that is why he won it, no other reason but the woke vote
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:01pm
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  Incite a violent mob – win Young New Zealander of the Year
  Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
  
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  March 30, 2023 9:20pm

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