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Bridgenag

Comedy to start the day

Bill Gates – “Best Doctor in the World”
Comedy gold from JP Sears

https://open.substack.com/pub/metatron/p/bill-gates-best-doctor-in-the-world?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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March 12, 2023 8:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is really well done. Wonder what will happen if I put it on my Facebook?
  A Ban? Can’t write a disclaimer as that would spoil it.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:08am
Bridgenag

Usual misery for the day

UK Disinformation Unit Monitored Headmaster Who Questioned COVID-19 Vaccines For Children
By Owen Evans, March 10, 2023, Epoch Times

https://open.substack.com/pub/metatron/p/uk-disinformation-unit-monitored?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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March 12, 2023 8:03am
- Lee C
  
  Perhaps he was just ‘Deluded’?
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:59am
Paulus

What are the odds that Minister Verrall will retire from politics this years and return to real Research Medicine for which she has a top reputation.
She would be better there in the very best interest of New Zealand to have people of her calibre trying to take real Medicine forward than be continually dropped upon by Wellington so called Health bureaucrats, and the fiasco which is now the crap politically inspired medical practices thrust upon us.
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March 12, 2023 8:12am
- Swifty
  
  I suppose you’ve got to feel for those Labour MPs who have tasted Ministerial power since 2020, and especially those since the recent Hipkins reshuffle, who if they get booted out in Oct face the prospect of 6,9,12 years in opposition before they get another opportunity to wreak their special havoc on New Zealanders again.
  
  Actually, yeah nah.
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:54am
  - Positan
    
    Swifty, on the basis of the worst-ever NZ government which salaciously, and without any sort mandate, performed so many egregious deeds to wreck the economy – ceasing oil prospecting, closing Marsden Point, closing coal mines, closing charter schools, squandering expenditure everywhere, inflicting the nonsense of naming everything in Maori and confusing 99% of the population – I’d guess that Labour’s chances of re-election within 50 years were zilch. Mind you, with a turkey like Luxon “leading” National – all bets have to be off.
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:56am
- artemisia
  
  Minister Verrall is not having a fun time after taking the hospital pass. Maybe she is looking towards October 2023 and weighing up her options – 3 more years as a weak link Minister, easy ride in Opposition with just ‘9 months of neglect’, stand down and step back into the other career.
  
  One of those options is not like the others.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:12am
  - pdm
    
    The foundations for a rapid decline in Health were set when Clark was appointed in 2017, then I think Chippy held the fort for a while. No good was ever going to come from Little being Health Minister so maybe Verrall is not that popular with the Labour powers that be.
    
    Otherwise why `kick her in the guts’ Trev?
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Who could possibly replace her as Labour’s spokesperson for Health?
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:18am
  - Matt Long
    
    Labour has an abundance of talent. 😝😝😝
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:21am
  - Ghost
    
    I have found a Dr that is interested Dr M.
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:42am
  - Paulus
    
    Little who dropped Verrall in it as he, like Ardern, ran.
    Robertson would run if he could.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:56am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Little did not run, he was pushed out, it will be interesting to see how high on the list he goes
      
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      March 12, 2023 11:59am
  - pdm
    
    Maggy – the airhead Anna Lorck is a self confessed expert on all things Berocca.
    
    Mind you I would not trust her give someone a panadol tablet.
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:29am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      She might put it where they take ya temperature 😃👍🏻
      
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      March 12, 2023 12:00pm
      - pdm
        
        G – if you knew her reputation, which I do going back as far as when she was at high school with two of our daughters – she would love doing that.
        
        Latest nickname heard is – `sticky knickers’ and she has had more than a few other similar ones over the last 30/35 years.
        
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        March 12, 2023 2:22pm
- Matt Long
  
  You would have to ask her colleagues whether she in fact was according to her reputation, or another CV embellisher.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:23am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Why woould she retire when Labour is set to sweep the elections in October under Chippie’s leadership?
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:38am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wellington Health bureaucrats.
  It is really getting worse under Labour right?
  Wellington is turning into a Socialist shithole.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:13am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Just watch her on Newshub, like Little, they have hired 1000s of doctors, 1000s of nurses, and have created a mental health system that is working well even though no one has any knowledge of. She was lying and obfuscating the whole way through, she won’t stay minister if she keeps that crap up, especially now health is in the worst mess it has ever been in
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:36am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    Yes she will. Gaslighting is Labour’s primary skill. She’s obviously a master of it.
    
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    March 12, 2023 12:18pm
  - wisteria
    
    Wasn’t she the one who was an expert in tracing. That worked for about two days and was amazingly overwhelmed. Time and motion studies would have told anyone interested that it was bollocks.
    
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    March 12, 2023 12:25pm
Chuck Bird

I heard on the news that Hipkins is going to Big Gay Out. I wonder if Luxon should go to maybe get a few votes like has tried to get off the climate change alarmist.
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March 12, 2023 8:16am
- G152
  
  One place that they should back out of
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:21am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Lots of National Party bigwigs have been in the past… (possibly ACT Party figures too)
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:24am
- Prince
  
  Ot maybe just sit inside and issue a few press statements denouncing gays, maori and climate change believers, eh Chuck ?
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:35am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Chuck-
  He should go if he wants to go – not just because there might be a few votes in it.
  People know when politicians turn up at events just to be seen and are sick of this type of calculated “virtue signalling” – similar to Mr Hipkins on Te News last evening visiting an A&P show. Of course he was wearing a checked shirt like de all farmers wear, eh. And had a ride in a big, emissions emitting tractor which next week he will be condemning as contributing to climate change emergency.
  Mr Luxon should decide what type of leader he is and stick to it, rather than trying to please all and ending up pleasing none.
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:47am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Agreed.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:50am
  - wisteria
    
    Mr Luxon needs to be given an equal time on the media. Almost everything he is quoted as doing has a negative comment either before or after. No wonder the Polls are negative.
    
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    March 12, 2023 12:27pm
- Rusty
  
  @Chuck – when was the last time you heard of a PM or opposition leader attending a public christian event?
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:18am
  - dubya
    
    They literally go and [Mod – deleted] at Ratana every year.
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:32am
  - Prince
    
    Judith Collins went to a church !!
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:54am
  - Nick R
    
    Umm. Well, there’s a Christian prayer recited at the start of each day in Parliament. So that’s a start…
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:58am
    - rouppe
      
      No there isn’t
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:33am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Correct. It used to be a Christian prayer, until Mallard unilaterally took any reference to Jesus out of it. It’s now a generic prayer, designed not to offend anyone.
        
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        March 12, 2023 3:59pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Luxon will be booed and kicked out of the meet. He better spend the time reading about climate change.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:39am
  - JJ56
    
    And the book to give should be Judith Curry’s upcoming work Climate Uncertainty and Risk https://judithcurry.com/2023/03/11/climate-uncertainty-and-risk-table-of-contents/
    
    In fact perhaps give him and your local National candidate a copy for their campaign launches.
    
    Oh for some rational climate polices from the blue team.
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Don’t talk crap
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:49am
  - Lee C
    
    I don’t think that one who has employed and worked with as many flight attendants as Luxon has needs to be that worried.
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:02am
    - Matt Long
      
      As I recall Air NZ being rainbow friendly was one of his achievements.
      
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      March 12, 2023 12:41pm
  - wisteria
    
    Sir Cullen should look in mirror while he is saying all these negative thing about Mr Luxon. I wonder if he has ever bothered to go and meet him.
    
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    March 12, 2023 12:30pm
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      wisteria – I haven’t met him. But if he is not avle to get National at least 10 points clear of this utter crap Labour by now, he ain’t going to cut the mustard come October. He is an utter loser in my view.
      
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      March 12, 2023 2:54pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Luxon can go on one condition, he dresses in Drag!
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:15am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He was busy at the biggest A&P show in the country yesterday in Wanaka, no sign of rotten government ministers, he scored plenty of votes but we can leave the bent to Chipkins
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:38am
  - Matt Long
    
    Was he explaining how he planned to tax farmers for causing storms?
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:00am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      No, he was telling them he will put Labours tax on hold and let farmers set their own standards like they thought they had with Labour . Farmers want to contribute, but they spent huge resources working a plan only to be shafted by Labour
      
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      March 12, 2023 12:03pm
      - Matt Long
        
        Suggest you talk to people familiar with the HWEN debacle.
        
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        March 12, 2023 12:43pm
      - Matt Long
        
        To be clear farmers we’re coerced in HWEN with the threat of the ETS if no agreement acceptable to the government was reached. There’s a lot of farmers very angry about where HWEN ended up and the number of farms projected to go under if HWEN goes ahead.
        This is what Luxon now says farmers want.
        
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        March 12, 2023 1:53pm
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Farmers are traitors who voted Labour big time in 2020. They need to be taxed like hell.
      
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      March 12, 2023 2:56pm
      - kisekiman
        
        I dunno if that is necessarily true. Last election a lot of farmers wbo were previously in the Clutha Southland electorate found themselves in the new (reinstated) Taeri electorate along with urban residents of Mosgiel & South Dunedin who would mainly be dyed in the wool Labour voters. National simply didn’t have the rural votes to win that seat. 26k votes to Labour vs 9k votes to National.
        
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        March 12, 2023 5:58pm
Matt Long

For the statistics wizards out there, what is the lowest favorables an opposition leader has had at this point in the election cycle and gone on to win?
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March 12, 2023 8:20am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  You don’t need to be a statistics wizard. You just need access to detailed historical polling data. There is only one person I can think of. 😂
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Benedict Yu was the one for data like that.
    Unfortunately some rotten bastard doxed him.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:20am
    - Debsta
      
      Yeah what happened to Benedict…I miss his posts!
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:38am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        This explains what happened:
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/02/general_debate_12_february_2023.html#comment-3319736
        
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        March 12, 2023 11:02am
    - thirteenstars
      
      I must have been on holiday when that happened. Can you bring me up to speed?
      
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      March 12, 2023 11:05am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Matt Long – I think it could be the female dictator.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:40am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They mean absolutely nothing, main thing is, when a government has changed its PM within 12 months of an election , that government has always been booted out, English came the closest but Peters shafted him
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:54am
- oldpark
  
  @Matt Long 8.20am
  
  Helen Clark was known as Mrs 2% in late 90s.
  
  Was sooo unpopular that Sullen Cullen at the time wanted her replaced .
  Yet in 1999 she swept the board politically and reigned for Nine Long Years .Finally replaced by John Key Government .
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:50am
Yvette

The Nazi of Germany acted, most tragically, both in Jewish extinction and Aryan distinction
– the extermination and mass deaths of several ethnic groups, parallel to the so-called excellence that set another ethnic group above all those others.

In this nation, at the moment, it appears one ethnicity is being vaunted – so-called excellence that set one ethnic group above others.
Is the “tyranny of the majority” to be replaced by the “superiority of a minority”?

[Mod – yes it is offensive]
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March 12, 2023 8:43am
- Matt Long
  
  Ordinary Germans were saying things like; lock up the unvaccinated, take away their jobs, forcibly inject them, [Mod – deleted]
  Outliers were suppressed by the disinformation project, storm troopers, the police and secret service.
  
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  December 12, 2022 9:18am
  - Matt Long
    
    After the war of course, no one knew anyone who had supported the NAZIs.
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:34am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    The answer is obviously “yes”. It is self evidently offensive to compare New Zealand’s race relation to Nazi.
    I would hope you were asking a rhetorical question since I presume you know such a comparison would be offensive.
    
    [Mod – completely agree, deleted]
    
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    March 12, 2023 5:30pm
- Yvette
  
  New Zealand is currently living through another top-down revolution. Though far from complete, it has already captured control of the commanding heights of the public service, the schools and universities, the funding mechanisms of cultural production, and big chunks of the mainstream news media.
  […]
  The Māori nationalist revolution is not yet complete – but it has, most certainly, begun.
  – Chris trotter
  http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2023/03/the-revolution-has-begun.html
  
  Whose Country? The ideology driving New Zealand’s latest top-down revolution is not neoliberalism, it’s ethnonationalism. A potent amalgam of indigenous mysticism and neo-tribal capitalism has captured the imagination of the professional and managerial class and is relying on the latter’s administrative power and influence to drive through a revolutionary transformation of New Zealand society.
  
  State departments, universities, schools and media – so far
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:08am
  - Yvette
    
    Sorry, I should have indicated that except for the last line “State departments, universities, schools and media – so far”, the rest is Chris Trotter, quoted from the linked article.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:22am
  - Paulus
    
    Latest Trotter website page is well worth reading.
    I have the greatest respct for his view currently, although being in opposition to his underlying one time Labour philosphy.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:59am
  - thirteenstars
    
    I read that piece a couple of days ago and Trotter is conflating Rogernomics–the program that saved NZ from becoming the South Pacific’s kargest banana republic–with the wholly destructive rise of this new racism which is just good old neo-Marxism.
    
    Trotter seems very confused, and indeed, he didn’t seem to explain his point well at all.
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:10am
  - Jack5
    
    Woke racist preferences flare again at the National Library.
    
    Not so long ago it culled the national book collection of thousands – tens of thousands – of books, alleging this was to make room.
    
    One reason given was to focus on new Pacific and New Zealand titles, which, will of course, overwhelming will be Woke, and often ethnonationalist, too.
    
    Now the National Library’s useful site, Papers Past, with online access to a century of digitised records of NZ newspapers, is getting the treatment. NZ has had Maori publications, but overwhelmingly the newspapers have been in English language.
    
    Have a glance at Papers Past at the link that follows this post. If two languages were to have equal status — despite the fact that only a few percentage points of the population is fluent in one them — it would be reasonable to feature them in alphabetical order:
    
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Some Kiwis are frogs. Some woke up, but not enough yet.
  Wake up you morons or we get 3 more years of control freak socialism.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:24am
  - Yvette
    
    Also “Wake Up”, or we may embed “co-governance” for an ardernity – before we ever find out what it may be defined as.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:37am
    - Bridgenag
      
      SENT TO ME
      
      Dear Jacinda:
      You may have run away
      From your five years in the sun
      But I will not forgive you
      For the damage you have done
      
      Our beautiful New Zealand
      Can it ever be the same?
      Now ravaged by division
      And you alone to blame
      
      You’ve left us with so much to fix
      You’ve made things so much worse
      Your reckless overspending
      Has drained the public purse
      
      Children still in poverty
      Criminals running rife
      Race based legislation
      Set to ruin Kiwi life
      
      You grasped your socialist dagger
      And you plunged it in our heart
      Creating vile apartheid
      Which will tear us all apart
      
      So I’m glad you’re gone, Jacinda,
      But does Hipkins wear your smile?
      I fear the face of innocence
      Just masks the crocodile.
      
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      March 12, 2023 6:16pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Steve Otto – Sheeple want three more years of this gummit. So why wake up?
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:58pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You know? I was going to say two bad words, but I won’t.
      
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      March 12, 2023 3:19pm
Tony Stuart

The Police in Hawke’s Bay have been busy, and all power to them:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/ten-gang-members-charged-after-raids-in-hawkes-bay-and-gisborne/WAGN5KNXZNDL7AHAYKE56XLR5A/

But weren’t allegations of crime by gang members in Hawke’s Bay and Gisborne just “unsubstantiated rumours”? After all, that’s what the Prime Minister told us, and he wouldn’t tell fibs…
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March 12, 2023 8:54am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Yes Tony – That is why Chippie is liked very much by Sheeple.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:40am
  - Paulus
    
    I heard Chippy called on radio this morning being described as a very likeable young man.
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Paki said police were also following up after search warrants to see where there were opportunities to prevent re-offending.”
  Put the bastards in jail and keep them there. That will stop re-offending.
  Nope, too soft, and Cuddles would not like that. Be Kind.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:28am
Master Mariner

A good article regarding renewables.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Fatal-Flaw-Of-The-Renewable-Revolution.html

“Most people are “energy blind,” especially when it comes to coal and natural gas. They assume that there is plenty of both fuels to be cheaply extracted, essentially forever. Unfortunately, for both coal and natural gas, the cost of shipping tends to be very high. This is something that modelers miss. It is the high delivered cost of natural gas and coal that makes it impossible for companies to actually extract the amounts of coal and natural gas that seem to be available based on reserve estimates.”

So with this in mind, What do we do ? Import Low value coal ( And Ashfelt ), And deliver Fuel via Product Tanker ( Av Gas, Diesel, Petroleum etc) at a very high ( And unreliable) Charter Rate.

Worth a read in its etirety.
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March 12, 2023 9:05am
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, no political party in NZ has a handle on our energy needs, current or future.
  If Te MSM weren’t working for the Labour Party, perhaps they’d be asking some meaningful questions about this, ignoring the Greens in totality.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:17am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Why would you expect or want any political party to have a handle on New Zealand’s future energy needs?
    
    There are plenty of business professionals in the energy industry, whose livelihoods depend on ensuring that their employers are able to meet their customers’ requirements. They therefore spend their working days examining and analysing trends and events likely to affect energy demand and supply in the short, medium and long term, and they carefully consider how to anticipate and be prepared to respond to those pressures. What are politicians supposed to be able to add to that?
    
    We were rightly suspicious and cynical of calls for a “national food strategy”. Why would we think that a “national energy strategy” would be any different?
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:57am
    - Nickc2
      
      We need to be able to best of our ability guarantee fuel supplies, storage, and distribution of all kinds. Currently, we can’t!
      We have no guarantee of supply if commercial vendors choose to ignore NZ due to costs and/or hostilities or threats thereof make the risks involved in supply too great.
      We currently have approximately thirty days of stock in storage and due to the constraints involved with supply above, that’s not a lot of fuel, even with rationing.
      As for distribution, I would have thought the constraints on distribution were highlighted by our infrastructure inadequacies over the last month.
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:19am
    - Taieri
      
      What are politicians supposed to be able to add to that?
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      Formulate and implement coherent national energy policy. That’s their job. Comparisons with “national food strategy” miss the point. Farming can be successfully conducted by individual enterprises, while virtually all major energy projects have to be underwritten by the Government or by energy companies, such as oil majors and so on, in cooperation with the Government. The energy companies will avoid this country like a plague, if all that it takes to destroy the stability required in the energy sector are infantile “captain’s calls”. As for the former; for example, all major hydro dams were built by the State, as only the State can, in NZ, provide sufficient resources for the undertakings of such magnitude. Robert Muldoon, for all his faults, was the last NZ politician who understood the importance of energy independence.
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:38am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump Develops Brilliant Strategy.
Copy the Democrats.
https://thedailymojo.com/trump-embraces-2024-ballot-harvesting-to-beat-dems-at-their-own-game/
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March 12, 2023 9:07am
- Inandout
  
  SO, Time magazine actually laid out how the Dems won and two can play at that game.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Some States allow harvesting.
    https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_laws_by_state
    
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    March 12, 2023 12:00pm
Tony Stuart

This tweet, from a friend whose property suffered massive damage during the recent cyclone, makes me both sad and angry:

Not quite a month on….3 weeks of larger digger work. This is the front block of one orchard. It was in the direct path of a stopbank breach. Some people at the council want us to separate out our posts, wires and irrigation.

Watch the video that goes with the tweet, and take in the carnage. Then ask why the local council insists on getting in the way of people trying to clean up the mess that arrived uninvited into their homes, farms and orchards when stopbanks were breached. Surely these people could just be allowed to get rid of all the silt, slash and other debris from their properties, without having to sift through everything and put it in neat piles to please some anonymous pen-pusher, who hasn’t lost their livelihood.

It simply reinforces the old line about one of the Three Great Lies being “I’m from the council, and I’m here to help”!
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March 12, 2023 9:13am
- Matt Long
  
  Rather like having politicians use the cyclone to push guilt on to stressed tired dairy farmers whose farms have been devastated by flooding.
  ” This cyclone was caused by climate change, you are at fault.”
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:43am
Southern Raider

Any one else notice the Census adverts promote Māori completing the forms so they can “get more from the Crown”?
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March 12, 2023 9:39am
- Ghost
  
  Nope, got a link to that ad?
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:40am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Perhaps this one?
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4YB31_vFkHo
    
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    March 12, 2023 9:54am
    - Ghost
      
      Thanks, I was going through their YouTube page looking. But is that any different than the others that say we all benefit from doing the census
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:03am
      - rouppe
        
        Who exactly do you think the “we” is that Naida Glavish refers to when half the ad is in Te Reo?
        
        Why do you think she is so pointed about the “data being safe” when you consider which cohort was most difficult to contact during covid?
        
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        March 12, 2023 10:46am
      - Ghost
        
        The same we that every other ad has in the census.
        
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        March 12, 2023 10:52am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yeah, who is this “We” you speak of Kemosabe?
        
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        March 12, 2023 12:05pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Fake news, Mr Southern Raider. Get on with your search of the ark.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:42am
- Nickc2
  
  It’s called co-governance at work and we didn’t even vote for it!
  I hope this is remembered at the next election.
  
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  March 12, 2023 9:44am
- The Other Enoch
  
  Perhaps if more people did what I did, instead of talking in an echo chamber as Kiwiblog is sadly heading towards, then we might get somewhere.
  
  So what did I do? In the comments section I ranted about the need to call Maori out. If they are going to call Maori out, why not Pacific Islanders, or better yet, why not immigrants and refugees? And on the Statistics NZ Business Survey I did the same. On Friday I received a phone call from Stats NZ asking why I had completed the survey in that manner. I reiterated my views. In last years local body elections, the same (photo on file if requested). So come onyou brave Kiwiblog commenters, strand up and start doing the same.
  
  Now I’m waiting for a visit from the thought police. I’ll let you know if they call.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:14am
  - rouppe
    
    There was no opportunity to call anything out on the census form
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:48am
    - The Other Enoch
      
      Yes there was, pity I didn’t keep a screenshot.
      
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      March 12, 2023 11:01am
      - Bridgenag
        
        Command shift 4
        
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        March 12, 2023 11:58am
    - The Other Enoch
      
      I did it under ‘Other’ in the ethnicity section. Comment has to be truncated due to limited space.
      
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      March 12, 2023 11:02am
- Grumpy Silver Haired Female
  
  I saw the ad last night and was initially offended (in the modern, woke sense) then employed my thinkolator and decided that it was designed to speak directly to a sector of the population that is generally disengaged so therefore had merit. So, maybe sensible use of advertising budget? Is the ad budget also going on social media posts with a similar message, targeted at disaffected population sectors? I hope so.
  PS. Please will all commentors proof read their comments and apply punctuation. Too many comments are incomprehensible.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wot?//
    
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    March 12, 2023 3:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Kerikeri meeting is today. Slowly but surely this Road Tour is gaining traction.
They must be doing something good if Radio NZ has to lie about Dargaville.
Councilor Pera Paniora wants the Road Tour banned! Really? She wants to ban Free Speech? What is she scared of? Truth?
Anyway, I have ordered 10 Books to give to my friends. $2 each. Fill your boots.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/our-kerikeri-event-is-today/
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March 12, 2023 9:43am
- thirteenstars
  
  Regards Batchelor, et al., as an American friend said to me of Trump: he’s hated by all the right people.
  
  All power to him.
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:14am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Very fitting. NZ really needs to wake up. They do not see what is happening.
    If you start digging, you are immediately branded ‘Racist’
    Stand up!
    
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    March 12, 2023 12:13pm
- Alex
  
  Be Good if when you clicked reply you could go straight to it.
  Re co governance, though Tame was partly right on q+a The morning about Maori getting 50% vote on Councils, that is on one level over Water, the other higher level they have total say. Muriel Newman has covered this.
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “Be Good if when you clicked reply you could go straight to it.”
    If it was a reply to me, I am not sure of what you mean Alex.
    
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    March 12, 2023 3:29pm
Stu2

RNZ reports “Former Waitematā DHB head to investigate emergency dept data publishing error”

Guess what that means? Another consultant.
Just the situation where you need someone knowlegeable and independent.

I thought the national position on consultants this week was overdone.
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March 12, 2023 9:58am
- Ghost
  
  I’ve been looking each night, the corrected data still not online
  
  But labour should look into all data, the other day chippy lying about ram raids decreasing when he was police minister. Can’t trust any of their data. Education absentee data wrong
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:05am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think this is it…
    
    https://www.tewhatuora.govt.nz/publications/national-performance-reporting-metrics/
    
    It’s dated 10 March 2023… but wasn’t obvious at first to find from the home page.
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:20am
    - Ghost
      
      Omg, those figures are terrible
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:30am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        But not so bad for my local hospital….fluctuating between 95-96% for folks being seen within 6 hours at E.D.
        
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        March 12, 2023 10:46am
    - Stu2
      
      Couple of things in the text on that page made me cringe
      
      “The same definition has been applied to both data sources, however caution should be used when comparing different published data sources”
      
      “DHB non-financial monitoring framework no longer exists, and DHBs/districts are no longer required to complete a SS10 template as part of this quarterly process.
      
      For data from the 1 July 2022 period, we have applied the same definition as stated in the SS10 guidance to the ED data in National Collections. This is a different data source, therefore SSED results from National Collections are not directly comparable to the SSED results received via the SS10 templates.”
      
      So the central system doesn’t necessarily produce the same results that the DHBs produced themselves.
      
      Could just be timeliness, fixes to data in the national system means it no longer matches snapshots produced earlier. But that is probably optimistic.
      
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      March 12, 2023 10:38am
    - rouppe
      
      Bobbling around 50% in Capital and Coast.
      
      That’s disgraceful
      
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      March 12, 2023 11:03am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        Fitting and unsurprising though that Bureaucracy Central is outstandingly crap. Of course the answer to them is more money whatever the problem.
        
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        March 12, 2023 4:47pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They only look at data when they have been sprung lying
    
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    March 12, 2023 10:58am
Swifty

I see Guyon Espiner has studied at the Malcolm Muggeridge school of journalism – once you’ve personally and finally had enough of a particular enjoyable sin then begin preaching about how it is bad and everyone else should stop doing it too:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ask-me-anything-guyon-espiner-and-paula-bennett-talk-quitting-drinking-and-alcohol-in-new-zealand/MYA22LOIZVGO5ATTCTGQCU4PJY/

How absolutely boring. How utterly predictable.

First Gower. Now Espiner. And all on the public tit paid for by you and me.
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March 12, 2023 10:24am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Poor little privileged boy has to demonstrate that he too has suffered.
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:04am
- surfing
  
  Gower is a top class clown for a start.
  
  His interview with the two canadians was a train wreck for which he did no preparation other than seemingly read twitter!
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:39pm
Maggie Pie

Talking with one of the girls at Mass earlier. She was telling me her daughter is a first-year Law Student at Vic.
Apparently, the first few weeks have been solely dedicated to learning ‘Maori-Case-Law’ which she told her mum is sooo f….ing boring!
They’re all really looking forward to actually moving on to studying the ‘Westminster System’ in the months ahead.
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March 12, 2023 10:30am
- Cassandra
  
  I hope she didn’t say that to her mum! Maori case law would be 50% ToW and 50% the Crimes Act I imagine.
  
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  March 12, 2023 10:48am
- Blog-aholic
  
  WTF exactly is “Maori” case law……//
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:12am
  - Nickc2
    
    It’s the excuse Lawyers and Judges use to lessen the sentence that would otherwise be handed down to Non-Maori based on what a prior Lawyer has argued or a Judge handed down.
    IMO, Home Detention (with visiting rights) is pretty much the maximum penalty hand-down for Maori offenders these days.
    
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    March 12, 2023 11:38am
  - Paulus
    
    Maori Case Law is whatever you wanted it to be !
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:17pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Dumb and dumber woke precedents in law?
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:19pm
slightlyrighty

I see Lauren Boebert is about to become a grandmother at the ripe old age of 36.
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March 12, 2023 10:42am
- Maggie Pie
  
  so?
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:29am
Chuck Bird

I put this on the Q + A FB. I bet it gets ignored. The problem with stupid people like Tame is they think they are highly intelligent.

Jack, where is your evidence that Cyclone Gabrielle was unprecedented? NIWA does not make that claim. I quote NIWA below.

NIWA did not claim that Gabrielle was the strongest ever storm to pass near the North Island, only one of the strongest storms. Similarly, NIWA did not say it was caused by climate change, only that climate change was likely to be a factor in its severity.
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March 12, 2023 10:54am
- Blog-aholic
  
  He is clearly in “the cult”.
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:13am
- Alex
  
  Chuck I don’t think Tame believes in half the stuff he promotes.
  He kept saying to Chips that fuel rebate was against curbing emissions.Something about 10 tons extra.
  Tame got co governance wrong at some level Maori make up 100% of 3 Waters board not 50%.
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:31am
- Ignoranus
  
  So do you believe climate change was a factor in its severity?
  
  I’ll bet 2 bob attribution studies will indicate the severity and extent of the two storms taken together in late January and early February were unprecedented since at least the early 1800s – when people here could write.
  
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  March 12, 2023 1:11pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Science is about what can be proven, not believed. As a scientist I don’t believe anything but demonstrable reproducible evidence.
    
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    March 12, 2023 4:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

“The problem isn’t that Johnny can’t read. The problem isn’t even that Johnny can’t think. The problem is that Johnny doesn’t know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling.” -Thomas Sowell.

This is what NZ has been reduced to in 5 years.
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March 12, 2023 10:57am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The trouble is that Johnny runs the Government.
  
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  March 12, 2023 4:31pm
Tauhei Notts

To the moderator;
I have been most impressed by knowledgeable comments logged on here by “mastermariner”.
Would it be possible for our host to invite that commenter to post a guest piece on what the hell is happening with those Cook Strait ferries. All press comment recently has placed my bullshit detectors upon alert. Hopefully mastermariner could work through and give us solid hard, and possibly unpalatable facts.
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March 12, 2023 11:05am
- Taieri
  
  A brief answer to your question.
  
  Kaiarahi: gearbox failure, resulting in prolonged lay-up due to the parts not being available ex stock and having to be manufactured
  Kaitaki: central cooling system for Main Engines – failure of flexible joint, resulting in the total loss of power. Current problem unknown.
  Aratere: operational
  Valentine: operational, cargo only
  Connemara: Main Engine turbocharger failure, resulting in reduced power in one engine, Usually, when this happens, the engine is only used to “get home”
  Straitsman: operational, no recent problems, recently sold to Condor Ferries, due to leave NZ at the end of April
  Strait Feronia: currently dry-docking in Sydney
  
  All these vessels are fairly old and all except of Aratere were purchased as second (or third) hand. Aratere was built for the Interislander in the yard that previously built only naval vessels and had no experience in passenger vessels’ construction. She was ordered following industrial strife at Tranz Rail in 1994 and was intended as a walk-on walk-off crewed vessel with corresponding specifications. The poor quality of design and build was evident in numerous failures right through the entire history of this pride of Kiwi Rail fleet.
  
  As for the remaining vessels…
  
  A single point failure (cooling system), which recently resulted in Kaitaki’s may-day call has no place on a passenger vessel. She was built in 1995 and has been operated by Kiwi Rail since 2007. It doesn’t say much about the standards of the entity operating her that this deficiency has not been picked up and rectified long time ago.
  Her age notwithstanding, Kaiarahi’s breakdown (gearbox) could have happened on any ship of any age. I had a similar incident on a very well maintained 9 years old vessel. In our case the repairs were completed in 2 weeks, but the parts required were readily available, otherwise there would have been 6 months lead time to manufacture the replacement bearings.
  The turbocharger failure on Connemara is not a very common fault these days, but again it can happen, especially on a ship that has just been purchased from the previous owner. Pre-purchase inspections, regardless how thorough will not necessarily identify if there are any underlying issues.
  
  What needs to be remembered is that all these vessels are running 24/7 on a very tight schedule in one of the most unforgiving stretches of ocean in the world. While all of them have regular maintenance periods (1 day every 2 weeks or so, I believe) there’s only so much that can be done in such time and many jobs have to be deferred. Parts for the old vessels can be very difficult to obtain and often involve long lead time before they get to NZ. Not having worked for either Kiwi Rail or Bluebridge I can’t comment on the specific management practices in these companies, but it has to be remembered that both companies exist not just to provide a service (no matter how essential), but also to make a profit for their owners, otherwise they would not exist.
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:35pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    I have been on a 5 year old ship where the turbo blower blew.
    
    Limped into Sydney for a few days then across the Tasman on reduced power, no turbos at all so an 18kt ship reduced to 11-12 kts.
    
    Then in Akl and new Turbo flown out from Germany. Engines were a popular marque so parts available ” off the shelf”.
    
    Aratere was only part built when purchased and then she was retro fitted with rails. She was a didaster and known as the Aralemon. However, since she was lengthened, she seems to have been OK.
    
    Ferries should be bought new, run in with the older ones still available as there might be teething problems, then sold after a year-18 months.
    
    They should be replaced every 20 years. The thought of having 2 new vessels leaves me with dread. One breaksdown and there is one ferry only, they should have three.
    
    Also, the safety provisions either side of the Strait are minimal. No tugs that could handle the new ferries if they break down as the present ones do not have the grunt.
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:34pm
    - Taieri
      
      No tugs that could handle the new ferries if they break down as the present ones do not have the grunt.
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      Grunt is not a problem. Both, Tapuhi and Tiaki have plenty of power (5200 BHP each), which is more than enough to tow any of the Cook Strait ferries. The thing is, being harbour tugs, they can’t handle the weather and can’t tow over the stern. Both have winches up fwd and their drums are too small for a tow length that would be required anyway. And there’s bugger all on the other side. Ancient Monowai and another old tug ex. Tauranga; I don’t think they are even in survey for outside of restricted limits.
      
      As for Aratere, if I remeber right, she lost the propeller a couple of years after lengthening.
      
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      March 12, 2023 3:02pm
- alex Masterley
  
  seconded here.
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:39pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Cook strait is only 22km across at narrowest pt vs 93km length of current sailing route. With a substantial spend on breakwaters and roads to new ferry facilities located either side of that narrow gap it would reduce crossing times to about 15-60minutes depending on ferry type, which would increase ferry productivity and reduce costs over long term. It would also make it economic to use unconventional smaller ferries that can handle rough seas (SWATH) to increase sailing frequency.
  
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  March 12, 2023 4:07pm
  - Taieri
    
    It would also make it economic to use unconventional smaller ferries that can handle rough seas (SWATH) to increase sailing frequency
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    Yeah, the electric seagliders that the Stuff was getting orgasmic about a while ago is another option.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/green-travel/300591084/first-footage-of-new-electric-seagliders-coming-to-new-zealand
    
    Flying pigs might be a better idea…
    
    Shifting the terminals is not as easy as building breakwaters. There’re certain hydrological and geological factors which could make it a wee bit difficult. There’s a lot of gas about moving SI terminal to Clifford Bay. Didn’t happen and never will.
    
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    March 12, 2023 4:52pm
Captain Mainwaring

What is this Hato Hone St. John crap all about?
When is this patronising nonsense going to end?
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March 12, 2023 11:07am
- peterwn
  
  They rely on heaps of Government money, so they have to get with it.
  Wellington Free Ambulance will be next unfortunately. They do all ambulance work in the Wellington area (up tp Peka Peka) and the Wairarapa.
  
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  March 12, 2023 11:57am
- Paulus
  
  Have stopped sending donation to St John until it gets its name correct, and will do so to any others imilar and we are good givers as we can afford it.
  Sally Ann still on but getting political.
  
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  March 12, 2023 1:21pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Hey just send the money Get over yourself
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:35pm
  - Ghost
    
    Does it really matter what they call themselves, if you need them you won’t care what is painted on their ambulance.
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:41pm
- PeeJay
  
  If the current opinion poll’s are a trend rather than a bounce, unfortunately it might never end – if anything, it could get far, far worse!
  
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  March 12, 2023 2:03pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION:

Should bus drivers plying the Mt Roskill route be issued with Stab-Proof Vests?
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March 12, 2023 11:24am
Bridgenag

Love you Maggie
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March 12, 2023 11:44am
Bridgenag

I really loved the post some time ago when we were encouraged to look at other sites. Thoroughly enjoy the posts from the ones I tried. From UK, USA, Canada and OZ [with pocket just for fun]

Metatron, Pocket, Steve Kirsch, Dystopian Down under, bad cattitude……… Hope the person who opened my world will repost please.
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March 12, 2023 11:50am
- kevn
  
  @Bridge… Robert Malone, Mid Western Doctor both substack and Hatchard report.com.
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:16pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Thanks for that
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:08pm
Bridgenag

Please come back in some form Benedict ……. Maggie has no one to rise to the bait without you……
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March 12, 2023 11:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Trouble is he would be recognised straight away with his straight up, no nonsense comments. We all miss him.
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:31pm
  - PeeJay
    
    Think he’s still here Steve – different ID, but I’ve noticed one rather newish commentator seems to write in a very similar way to Bene.
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:00pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Be Quiet you, the enemy is listening.
      
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      March 12, 2023 3:34pm
Maggie Pie

Driving home after Mass this morning and thinking to myself….

“OK, jacinda’s gone, but whose going to clean up the f…ing mess!!?'”
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March 12, 2023 11:57am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Luv ya Mags but time you stopped rubbing our noses in this ‘Mass’ bullshit.
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:17pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Seriously, I don’t believe she goes. It’s a diversionary tactic.
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:51pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It is a small thing, so don’t worry. I am not a man of faith, but I respect those who are.
    
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    March 12, 2023 3:37pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Umm, I’m pretty sure that we plan on having some unelected (and therefore unaccountable) elite run the show, and the rest of us get to pay for it.
  They were here first after all!
  
  Current polls give it about 50% chance of coming to fruition. God help us all if it does.
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:32pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Honestly, in the space of less than 60 months you get the feeling Jacinda has taken the whole country back 200 years!
    Once again it’s become Maori against Pakiha…..Pahika against Maori.
    It’s absolutely dreadful what’s happened here 🙁
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:14pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      We just had a lovely lunch out with a good Maori friend. Absolutely none of this divisive beltway nonsense intruded – just Kiwis sharing stories and experiences.
      
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      March 12, 2023 4:20pm
  - Taieri
    
    I’m pretty sure that we plan on having some unelected (and therefore unaccountable) elite run the show
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    Not that the elected “elite” is all that accountable, or is it?
    
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    March 12, 2023 4:44pm
Bridgenag

Do you think the fellas need more testostrogen these days? ……….. Stuff in the jabs maybe making them sleepy?
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March 12, 2023 12:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Plus bone density – no spine?
  
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  March 12, 2023 3:41pm
Ghost

Ouch, feel for the brit woman, they’ll have to find something else to occupy their husbands

The BBC has apologised to viewers for “limited sport programming” as employees walked out after Gary Lineker was taken off air for comments criticising the British government’s new asylum policy.

Many of the BBC’s flagship football shows were taken off air by the broadcaster on Friday (local time) as a row over freedom of speech turns into a crisis for the national broadcaster.

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March 12, 2023 12:06pm
Bridgenag

The Brits have the same problems as we do…..wonder if there is a world wide conspiracy happening/
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March 12, 2023 12:13pm
surfing

This is rubbish, why is the government doing this racist crap?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/government-announces-51-million-investment-into-four-maori-horticulture-businesses-in-the-bay-of-plenty/NIVNOX6FZFGSJDXQKKT5JZICVM/

The Government has announced a $ 5.1 million investment into four Māori horticulture businesses in the Bay of Plenty.

This is why maori businesses often do well, they have no expenses, only income! Govt picks up the tab for expenses, Maoris take home the money.
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March 12, 2023 12:37pm
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, this is vote buying for Kiri Allan pure and simple!
  Where’s the bloody Opposition FFS! Te MSM has provided an opportunity for an attack on the Govt and nothing from the Opposition.
  I despair!
  
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  March 12, 2023 12:56pm
  - Swifty
    
    That’s it exactly Nick2.
    
    Vote buying.
    
    If the promised benefits don’t materialise will Allan resign and promise never to throw taxpayer money at private business ever again?
    
    Of course she won’t.
    
    Our system is corrupt.
    
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    March 12, 2023 1:26pm
    - Nickc2
      
      I have it on fairly good authority that she’s in line for the [Mod – use his name] job should they lose the next election.
      No doubt, she’ll want Willie Jackson or Nanaia Mahuta as her 2IC, maybe both. Co-leaders are in vogue so why not deputy leaders eh?
      Then, we’ll have Willie Jackson advocating for Maori Separatism and Nanaia Mahuta advocating for more money for Maori which actually means more contracts for Mahuta Corp.
      
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      March 12, 2023 3:15pm
    - Taieri
      
      If the promised benefits don’t materialise will Allan resign
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      Why should she? Where would she find a better job?
      
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      March 12, 2023 4:43pm
- kevn
  
  @surfing… Plus the charitable trust tax advantage.
  
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  March 12, 2023 3:28pm
  - surfing
    
    This is tip of the iceberg though. The amount of money being poured into Maori must be incredible. Government keeps it all pretty secrety though, you hear about the odd opening ceremony, welcomings, farewells, prayers and so on. All money for jam.
    
    I know a sports organisation from a maori area being given approx 40k to buy equipment. We applied to lotto to buy half the equipment for 20k, lotto said they are prioritising giving to Maori because they were affected so much by covid. So, we are now forced to rent the gear from the maoris.
    
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    March 12, 2023 6:24pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who eats that shit anyway?
  Oh wait, the Elite Maori do. Chuck it in the hangi.
  
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  March 12, 2023 3:48pm
The Redbaiter

Green left fake newser Jack Tame hammered PM Chris Hipkins for a full ten minutes on how extending the fuel tax rebate would lead to an increase in bad weather.

Hipkins defended the decision on the basis that people couldn’t do without fuel & he wanted to help them.

Hipkins is outflanking Luxon on environmental issues & now the Nats are at risk of being portrayed as more like the dogma driven Greens than Labour, and driving up living costs because of their similar addiction to this dogma.

Hipkins can also do sincerity far better then Luxon, who comes across (IMHO) all the time as if he is faking it. This is a big part of why the polls are not improving for Luxon.
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March 12, 2023 1:05pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but one person I have _not_ seen pushing the climate change nonsense hard is Hipkins.
  According to one commenter on this blog, most people in the country ‘believe’ in this nonsense, and believes Luxon/National would lose votes if they didn’t push along with net zero destruction. It’s what most of us want, apparently.
  From what I’ve seen, Hipkins seems more rational than Luxon in this regard. Has he been getting different advice than Luxon?
  (Don’t panic, I won’t be voting for either of those parties).
  
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  March 12, 2023 1:50pm
  - MCōs
    
    Quite frankly I don’t give a damn who you vote for.
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:03pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yes you do, otherwise you would not be on this blog.
      Don’t tell lies!//
      
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      March 12, 2023 3:54pm
  - The Redbaiter
    
    Chris Nisbet-
    
    I agree with that. Be it the truth or not, it is the perception that is developing, and IMHO its the worst possible thing that could happen.
    
    I warned way back of the fact that Hipkin’s projected guileless personality combined with the outrageous left/Labour bias of the media will be a difficult problem for the Nats to solve. They still don’t seem to get it.
    
    They also need to stop saying they will bring about “outcomes”. Maybe they will, but they seem bereft of any idea as to how they will do that. Raising the obvious question “why will they do any better than Labour?”
    
    Once again, its a situation they should not have got themselves into. They should have been explaining how they would achieve these improved outcomes long ago.
    
    The National strategy dept must take responsibility for this. They seem clueless and unable to read the political room, and its a problem that will lose them the election if not rectified.
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:06pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I seem to recall W Mapp makes the 80% claim (correct me if I’m wrong). Likely to be conflated alarmist bullshit itself. Like to see the source. The devil is in the detail of these BS alarmist claims. What PRECISELY do these supposed 80% actually believe? Does their “belief” prove anything scientifically?
    
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    March 12, 2023 2:34pm
    - The Redbaiter
      
      NZer in Exile- IMHO this blog (like the National party itself) is plagued by Labour/left wing infiltrators/imposters. You have to filter them out.
      
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      March 12, 2023 3:25pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Since when has your opinion been humble Red?
        
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        March 12, 2023 4:11pm
  - Prince
    
    Rubbish. Look up ‘Chris Hipkins Climate Change’
    Stop trolling.
    
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    March 12, 2023 3:55pm
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      Totally uninterested in looking up what Hipkins has to say. There are times when I get to hear it anyway.
      
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      March 12, 2023 4:29pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Chris Hipkins knows that the Auckland floods were climate change.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NScyur2wgIc
        (at 4:49)
        
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        March 12, 2023 5:04pm
      - Chris Nisbet
        
        Maggy- looks like I’ve just done a good job of avoiding his nonsense then. Maybe it was just wishful thinking that we had a PM who wasn’t intent on wrecking the joint.
        
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        March 12, 2023 5:57pm
  - coge
    
    If Hipkins does something sensible about their increasing tenant tax. There simply would be no reason to vote for a Luxon led National.
    
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    March 12, 2023 6:38pm
- Prince
  
  Again, a reminder, Luxon has taken National from 24% to 35%, and removed Ardern.
  Don’t think the last 2 months are a long term trend.
  
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  March 12, 2023 3:57pm
  - Taieri
    
    Luxon has taken National from 24% to 35%, and removed Ardern.
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    Ah, Luxon the Misogynist…
    
    So it wasn’t the Labour caucus that committed this treacherous act after all…
    
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    March 12, 2023 4:40pm
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Yes, Tame was grossly excessive in that line of questioning. One or two questions would have OK, but 10 minutes was absurd. It destroyed the value of the interview. I actually gave up watching, it was such a waste of time that I suddenly had other things to do.
  I thought Hipkins might have told Tame that enough was enough, that he had already answered the question three times. And that was in the first five minutes! Keeping his cool after such ridiculous questioning probably enhanced his reputation.
  Not one of Tame’s better interviews, who I generally rate. It was a pity he did such a poor interview with the PM. Most viewers would have have expected a better and more wide ranging interview.
  
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  March 12, 2023 5:44pm
Paulus

Have heard “Oh, he is a nice young man” on RNZ this morning.
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March 12, 2023 1:24pm
- lifesgood
  
  Damning with faint praise.
  
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  March 12, 2023 1:54pm
Bridgenag

Why isn’t the CDC warning parents that masking their kids creates unacceptably high levels of CO2?
Del Bigtree was right. The CO2 levels in masks worn by kids rises to over 13,000 ppm. This is above the normal 1,000 ppm level, and significantly above the 2,000 acceptable level. The CDC is silent.
STEVE KIRSCH
MAR 12

https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/why-isnt-the-cdc-warning-parents?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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March 12, 2023 1:32pm
Ghost

Another thriving labour success story

New figures released by National’s police spokesperson Mark Mitchell on Sunday show retail crime has increased by 39 percent in the past year.

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March 12, 2023 1:44pm
lifesgood

Seriously, I don’t believe she goes. It’s a diversionary tactic.
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March 12, 2023 2:05pm
NZer In Exile

Profound stuff. Legend Walter Williams brilliantly blows underpinnings of woke idiocy right out of the water.

Walter Williams: How Much Can Discrimination Explain?
https://youtu.be/KKgHc6bWqZ4
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March 12, 2023 2:07pm
Taieri

From the Covid chronicles…

“The state criminalized quotidian activities like sitting on a bench in the park, walking on the beach and meeting with extended family. Public health messaging was weaponized to normalize and sacralize spirit-sapping levels of social isolation. Even East Germany’s Stasi did not stop the elderly from hugging their grandchildren. Elderly patients were forced to die alone and surviving family members were banned from saying final farewells and denied the solace of a full funeral.”

https://brownstone.org/articles/conspiracy-theories-become-conspiracy-facts/

This article is about the UK and its Health Secretary Hancock.

Will we ever read something critical in the NZ media?
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March 12, 2023 4:37pm
Hollyfield

Was out with a friend yesterday and I expressed surprise when I saw a person on his own in the middle of a park miles away from anyone else and wearing a face mask.
My friend told me “we have to wear face masks”, but I told her we don’t (and after all neither of us was wearing a mask), then I recalled that maybe we still are supposed to at the doctors’, hospitals etc. So out of interest just went to the Covid19 website to check and it includes…I kid you not…. “You must wear a face mask when visiting….dentists and oral health services”.
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March 12, 2023 5:06pm
- Ghost
  
  You have to wear it into any health provider including pharmacy
  
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  March 12, 2023 5:11pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I just walk in at Warehouse Pharmacy.
    
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    March 12, 2023 5:17pm
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    My doctor (name witheld) took his mask off as soon as his office door closed saying “it was all for show”.
    
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    March 12, 2023 8:04pm
    - Ghost
      
      So does mine. During lockdown when you were meant to be doing phone appointments we’d just go in and see him. I always laughed when doctors were out in the car park in full PPE seeing car patients. the few times he went out it was without ppe and just a mask
      
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      March 12, 2023 8:10pm
- Inandout
  
  Ho, my dentist’s waiting room is mask free, though he has worn one for many years and I don’t blame him looking at the condition of some teeth.
  
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  March 12, 2023 5:21pm
- Taieri
  
  You must wear a face mask when visiting….dentists
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  Dentists wear them all the time after all, so a bit of a quid-pro-quo is only fair.
  
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  March 12, 2023 5:25pm
Ghost

The United States financial system has been rattled by the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank (SBV) and Silvergate Bank within 48 hours as economic uncertainty prevails. Therefore, some financial sector players project that the situation will likely worsen in the coming days.

In particular, Robert Kiyosaki, the author of the best-selling personal finance book “Rich Dad Poor Dad,” has warned that a third lender will likely follow suit. He stressed that the situation would positively impact precious metals in a tweet on March 10.

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- Maggie Pie
  
  LinkedIn speculating Prince Harry & Megs have “lost millions” with the collapse of SVB after regulators seized $175 billion of depositors funds …..more to come once I get verification.
  
  My partner was saying pity those poor buggers still holding crypto 🙁
  
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  March 12, 2023 5:44pm
  - Ghost
    
    Oh I must get some popcorn
    
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    March 12, 2023 5:52pm
  - kevn
    
    @Maggie… ‘Silicon Valley Bank’, the name alone would appeal to haz and meg. Trendy.
    
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    March 12, 2023 5:58pm
Ghost

Damn, who’d want to live in Auckland…

Armed police have cordoned off several streets in Pukekohe after reports of gunfire on Sunday afternoon.

Emergency services swarmed to the town south of Auckland as the incident unfolded on Birdwood Rd.

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March 12, 2023 5:38pm
Ghost

8 kids in the car, 3 in the boot. Straight away the driver should lose her license if she had one, disqualify them all from driving and after that make them start again from learners. But what is misfiring in your head to think that it is ok to get in the boot of a car

A semi-conscious teenager was pulled from an SUV after it hit a parked vehicle and flipped with eight people inside.

Nicole Andersen and her husband Benjamin Hills had just fallen asleep when they were awoken by the sounds of skids in their Hamilton road at 12.30am on Sunday.

Then they heard the crash.

Stuff
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March 12, 2023 6:11pm
- mandk
  
  Another good reason why the voting age should be increased, not decreased.
  
  Teenagers just don’t have the brain development to exercise good judgment.
  
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  March 12, 2023 8:22pm
Swifty

This is their sixth year in government and still cannot even get the basics right:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/reports-of-retail-crime-up-nearly-40-per-cent-in-2022/MTIGTUFOPRHDBOJTUV4AP5IOEY/

But they want us to trust them with co-governance, a totally upended health system, hate speech legislation, energy policy, a massive new water bureaucracy and all sorts of other hare-brained schemes.

Labour, you suck. Badly.

Useless.
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March 12, 2023 7:08pm
Swifty

I must have listened to or watched tens of hours of interviews with and presentations from Kellie-Jay Keen/Posie Parker over the last few years and not once have I ever heard her saying anything inviting violence on transgender folk. Not even close.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/485828/another-conspiracy-group-british-anti-trans-rights-activist-plans-stop-in-aotearoa

What a pity the RNZ journalist didn’t ask the transgender ‘rights’ activist for any examples of what the activist claimed.

I’ll bet my house that the activist is all for the recent part-Samoan poet and her writing about sticking knives between the white ribs of white New Zealanders – but here is the same person telling us who New Zealanders can and cannot hear from about one of the most important social issues in the world today.

Tolerance my arse. Now that the left is in the ascendency they are as intolerant as any that came before them. They have become so far up themselves and their ‘righteous causes’ they’ve become the very fascists they claim to abhor.
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- Swifty
  
  This is the same sort of stunt as the same sort of fascists who wanted Jordan Paterson’s visa cancelled:
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/02/listen-sean-plunket-rips-apart-stunned-auckland-peace-action-activist-over-jordan-peterson-opposition.amp.html
  
  When challenged of course they just fell apart.
  
  Check out the vid, totally cringeworthy, without merit and embarrassing.
  
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  March 12, 2023 7:41pm
  - Ghost
    
    Most people, be they gay, straight, bi, trans, and Maori just want to get on with their lives. Live their life and be happy. There is a militant part of all these communities that do not represent the majority. There is a parental part in the alphabet community that is living their fantasies through their children. And then there is the whole political and education system side of it that I don’t even care to look at because its unfathomable the damage the left and the educators have done to children.
    
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    March 12, 2023 8:03pm
- Ghost
  
  This woman and what she believes in is not a conspiracy.
  
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  March 12, 2023 7:43pm
  - Swifty
    
    Well said Ghost and exactly right.
    
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    March 12, 2023 7:45pm
Swifty

That’ll be those bloody Scots again, drinking all damn night and day, blaring those terrible pipe dirges, eating those terrible sheep guts and constantly tossing their cabers:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/131473107/gunshots-heard-four-injured-after-neighbours-report-fight-in-pukekohe

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March 12, 2023 8:12pm
Scooter

Will the media ask for Hipkins comments on this, he was covid minister after all. Hopefully those who had their payments cut will be reimbursed as well.

https://www.chrislynchmedia.com/news-items/new-zealand-government-successfully-sued-for-unlawful-vaccine-mandate
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March 12, 2023 8:51pm
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/300828331/nrl-kalyn-ponga-suffers-another-concussion-as-knights-beat-wests-tigers
If you can count to 5 you can play league.
And after all the head-knocks you will walk away with the brain of a 5-year old.
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March 12, 2023 9:10pm
Ghost

Well done to these locals, another gang member taken care of for the justice system to pat on the back and give a gift basket then let go

Nz herald

Piha locals have stepped in to apprehend a burglar after he allegedly assaulted an elderly woman in her home.

The incident on Glenesk Rd last night has left residents in the community on Auckland’s west coast concerned for their safety as they continue to rebuild from Cyclone Gabrielle.
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March 12, 2023 10:45pm
Ghost

Bullshit, Barbara knew about this issue, even former prime minister Ardern knew

Newshub can reveal some children born overseas while our borders were closed don’t have the same claim to be a Kiwi as if they were born here.

That was news to the minister who is promising a fix.

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March 12, 2023 10:50pm
Swifty

“Nash says new recruits will keep poli e on top of crime spike….”

Just come back to us Minister when crime levels are back to 1950s levels, hell I’d even settle for 2017 levels.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131477945/stuart-nash-says-new-recruits-and-gear-will-keep-police-on-top-of-crime-spike

In the meantime Minister, why don’t you just keep your trap shut and stop with the false promises and bullshit. We know you’ll not succeed, you know you’ll not succeed – you can’t when you’re not addressing root causes.
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