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Prince

HE DID IT !!
NZ Government debt tipped over $150 Billion yesterday. Congrats to Grant and his team. What a legacy for future generations.
Even better, the debt is growing at $71M each day. That is, the Govt spends $71M more that it ‘earns’ (ie taxes).
And we have a Gabrielle Bill coming up for another $20B, give or take.
Two questions :
– What magic solution does Labour have to turn the $71M deficit each day into surplus ? Where will they cut ? Where will they tax ? Where will the productivity come from ?
– How will the young people of today pay our debt back ? Is there a plan ?

https://www.debtclock.nz/
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March 3, 2023 8:02am
- lastmanstanding
  
  On this matter I say that National or Labour will sooner or later and probably sooner introduce a comprehensive Capital Gains Tax including the family home. They will point to overseas and also lie that including the family home will restrict price increases. It wont and it hasnt overseas.
  They will also tax withdrawals from Kiwisaver. This means you will pay tax on your contributions, tax on earnings, tax on realised and unrealised capital gains and tax on withdrawals.
  Why. Well both are running out of money to fulfill their ultimate wet dream. That is to command and control your life. Their agenda as per the WEF that both support is you will own nothing and be happy. They will decide your income and this will partly be based on “social credits” as in China. This means your income will be determined by whether you live your life according to their rules.
  Oh and BTW if you are one of the Special People Good News. Your income will be twice that of the White MotherFu…..
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:27am
  - Paulus
    
    Any CGT will be factored into the sale price of a property where it occurs.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:19am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      What is the point of a CGT when property prices are going backwards? Unless they give you a credit if you make a loss.
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:29am
      - lastmanstanding
        
        Capt. You dont get a credit if there is a loss. Its a win win for the Government. The reason for a CGT now is that over the next decade a large number of Baby Boomers will sell to move into retirement villages or cark it. Many will have held their homes for a long time and so the CGT will be substantial. In my own case the purchase price was $50,000 in 1979. The current price is north of $1.5M. Even a 1% CGT tax will cost me $14500. Multiply that you get a very large amount of tax.
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:36am
      - Jack5
        
        Overseas, almost invariably, capital gains taxes don’t cover people’s homes, typically with caveat that they must have been held for a couple of years or so.
        
        A problem that capital gains tax needs to be adjusted for, however, is small businesses and family farms. Various countries overseas have adjusted the tax to cope with transactions when farmers and tradies cash up, often in the latter case, on retirement.
        
        A decent capital gains tax (we have a minor one now) would have been a brake on NZ’s property bubble.
        
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        March 3, 2023 12:12pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        @lastmanstanding @ 10:36AM
        
        Should a CGT be introduced, there will be a commencement date, e.g., 1 October 2025. Any assets acquired prior to that date would be exempt. It is just reckless, baseless, scaremongering to suggest otherwise.
        
        In Australia, the family home is exempt. In the United States, the following is applicable—
        
        Capital Gains Taxes on Owner-Occupied Real Estate
        
        If you sell your home for a profit, that’s considered a capital gain. But you may be able to exclude up to $250,000 of that gain from your income, or up to $500,000 if you and your spouse file a joint tax return.
        
        To qualify, you must pass both the ownership test and the use test. This means you must have owned and used the real estate as your main home for a total period of at least two years out of the five years before the sale date. The two-year periods for owning the home and using the home don’t have to be the same two-year periods. Typically, you can’t take this exclusion if you’ve taken it for another home sale in the two years before the sale of this home. (See https://www.forbes.com/advisor/taxes/capital-gains-tax/.)
        
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        March 3, 2023 2:42pm
    - bjools
      
      CGT is on far more than housing
      It becomes a
      pseudo gift tax
      pseudo death duty
      Due to NZ Kiwi saver and National super, making their returns on the buying and selling of shares.
      It is a tax on your retirement savings too.
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:07pm
      - bjools
        
        beware the words…”unrealized gain” in any CGT law.
        
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        March 3, 2023 12:09pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Don’t even bother ffs, Nats are vehemently opposed to CGT and the stupid warmer homes costs on land lords, also the extension of the bright line test and the interest deductible, stop ya hate on Nats by using utter lies
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:28am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      They say that but do they believe it. I think not. If both National and Labour act in unison even though the party that introduces CGT will be tossed out at the next election at some point they will be re-elected and have the benefit of a locked in CGT. Think about it.
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:39am
    - Paulus
      
      Bjool has an interesting comment that has been viewed before, Unrealised Capital Gains Tax.
      That is a tax issued by some thing Government body – probably Local on behalf of National body, whereby every ratepaying property has a current CV, and is then translated into a tax say annualy like Rates.
      It gets jusr slotted as an item inthe rates bills.
      The Valuations are controlled by some “body” and annually reflects the valuations and the Unrealised tax payable. as presumably the property is not sold during the period either.
      Easy.
      
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      March 3, 2023 1:52pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    National or Labour will sooner or later and probably sooner introduce a comprehensive Capital Gains Tax including the family home.
    
    Family home is AFAIK exempted everywhere overseas. Twofold reasons – one is the “emotional” thing. The other is that we don’t usually keep tabs on capital improvements eg if I add a room, this will increase the value of the property – it’s a capital expense and should therefore be added to the “purchase price”. Too hard …
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:30pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      Isn’t Albanese now talking about CGT on the family home? He’s starting to look like a true Labour man. Promise things at election time. Then go back on it. Same with Jaxxy with the vaxxy.
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:33pm
- Simon
  
  “– How will the young people of today pay our debt back ? Is there a plan ?”
  
  Young people will generally head overseas. National has a plan though. Cant fix anything but they can fuck around on the edges to make it a whole worse.
  
  National’s plan is to bring in 100,000 Indians/ Filipinas, / Africans each year. (50,000 net plus 50,000 to cover those leaving)
  
  The banks will lend, retailers will sell, landlords will rent. There will be an operating surplus but the capital budget will be under funded.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:42am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Don’t forget the brain drain
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:29am
  - Jack5
    
    If National and ACT do favour mass low-skill immigration, Peters, health allowing, will be back in Parliament.
    
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    March 3, 2023 5:56pm
- PeeJay
  
  I can see a GST rise coming. Sure it’ll be framed as ‘ring-fenced’, or ‘temporary’. Hope I’m wrong.
  
  Out of interest, does that debt clock include KO debt? They’ve be raking up billions in off-government-balance sheet debt for a while now – hear a figure of $20b or so? Sure the artist formerly known as Benedict could comment!
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:58am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    This is why Robertson let these place borrow their own money, I am sure they said KO could never pay that debt back, it keeps it off the books, they will say Nats did it, but there was around 2 billion debt, they have multiplied much debt by more than 10 in 5 years, this should be treated like fraud
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:31am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    Yes, it will include KO debt. I note that Robertson uses a net debt figure. He does that by including as a government asset the $60 billion in the Super Fund. Gross debt is about 50% of GDP but net debt is 30%.
    
    In theory the government could raid the Super Fund, though they would probably would have to change the Super Fund legislation. The Super Fund has been built up by successive annual contributions of $2 billion plus capital growth of the assets.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:44am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They probably should take the 30 billion from the super fund, leaving 30 billion, super funds will pick up in a couple of years, sand tge loss will be far less
      
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      March 3, 2023 11:38am
      - Jack5
        
        For others who were stumped by “KO” in the phrase “KO debt”, this refers to Kainga Ora. the organisation that replaced, or seems to have replaced, the Ministry of Housing.
        
        Here, from its own web site, is the story of the “gift” of the name (in most cases in most languages names are free).
        
        To understand more about how we got our name and the meaning behind it, Te Ariki Pihama – Te Ringa Raupa – Chief Advisor Maori at Kainga Ora popped in to have a korero with Minister Nanaia Mahuta at Parliament.
        
        What follows is a link to a video to where the 95-97 per cent of New Zealanders who can’t speak Maori are taught how to pronounce the name.
        
        Poster Mike, or someone with knowledge of Parliament, might be able to explain what link, if any, remains with “Housing Corporation New Zealand” if that entity survives.
        
        I suspect it’s been a complex change, brought in quietly and cunningly, much like the sneaky changes to the State health system.
        
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        March 3, 2023 3:40pm
      - Jack5
        
        Edit of my 4.30 post: …in most cases in most languages names are ~~fee~~ free.
        
        Sorry!
        
        [Mod – fixed]
        
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        March 3, 2023 3:49pm
    - PeeJay
      
      Thanks Wayne – good feedback.
      
      Having been on the inside, how do you think they’ll proceed re funding? Be interesting to get your thoughts on this.
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:26pm
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        This government will borrow some and possibly have a special tax for one or two years on higher incomes, as has been the case in Queensland. Apparently RB Governor think that is the best way to deal with it.
        
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        March 4, 2023 7:54am
  - Paulus
    
    GST remains the best way of uncreasing the tax take as this we are told is a $150 billion debt for everbody.
    It is fair with no fishhooks, as everybody’s debt is paid by all.
    
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    March 3, 2023 1:56pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      Regressive taxes are always supported on KB.
      
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      March 3, 2023 2:45pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Didn’t they say we will be in the black by next year?
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:26am
  - Prince
    
    If so, how ? What budgets will be reduced ? How will they raise extra tax ?
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:38am
  - G152
    
    In the black as cant afford electricity
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:05am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Government budgets don’t give a sit about tgd cost of electricity, buildings that are empty because of earthquake strengthening with lights blazing 24/7
      
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      March 3, 2023 11:39am
- krazykiwi
  
  I think the ‘plan’ according to the twenty(?) or so people who run the world (while allowing us to believe in the quaint concept of national sovereignty) are CBDCs rising like a Phoenix from the ashes of a collapsed global financial system. Lots of debt and currencies becoming worthless are a key contributors to such a collapse. I’d very much like to be wrong here.
  
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  March 3, 2023 11:20am
  - Jim
    
    Technocratic digital enslavement kk. That’s the inevitable destination which will be welcomed by many as the economic and societal chaos is deliberately increased
    
    Nigerian CBDC trials have been interesting
    https://www.cato.org/blog/central-bank-digital-currency-war-cash
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:38am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  I have been pondering your comment. Yes, gross debt is $150 billion. But is it growing at $25 billion per year, which is how you appear to characterised the daily amount of $71 million.
  I understand that current the deficit was about $8 billion. It is this that adds to the $150 billion. Of course during the peak of Covid support, the annual deficit was much larger.
  However, I agree that borrowing could be $25 billion per year, because the existing debt is also regularly coming up for renewal. Most government debt is long term bonds up to 30 years, though some is short term. It would be expected that around 10% of government debt has to be renewed each year.
  This is one of the many reasons why inflation is such an issue. It is not just private mortgages that are affected. So is government debt affected by higher interest rates. Both the renewals and the new debt. An extra 4% interest on $25 billion would be an additional $1 billion government expenditure.
  
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  March 3, 2023 1:59pm
  - Jack5
    
    An interesting international take on New Zealand’s external debt is on the web here:
    
    https://tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/external-debt
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:48pm
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      That is all debt, public and private. The NZ government debt is all in NZ dollars, but of course many of the holders of government debt will be overseas parties.
      
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      March 3, 2023 7:53pm
  - Prince
    
    Thanks Wayne,
    One question I have relates to the 2017 election.
    I recall back then the Govt Debt was around $60B – quite a lot was made of that during the election !
    
    Anyway, Stephen Joyce identified a $12B ‘hole’ in Labour’s economic plan, that was said to balance, and not incur additional debt. Basically Joyce said the spending in year one, eg on public sector wage increases, was not carried over to years 2, 3 etc, creating the $12B hole.
    
    A few economists disputed this claim, and Vernon Small*, then the Stuff Political Editor, published many articles rubbishing Joyce’s claim. Unfortunately Joyce never sought support for his numbers and, in my view, it cost National quite a few votes.
    
    Anyway, back of the envelope calcs…
    2017 debt $60B
    Joyce’s discovery $12B x 5 years = $60B
    Add on $30B for Covid and myriad Govt balls ups, PGF, funds for Greens and NZF to raid, Kiwibuild etc etc say $30B
    
    Gives me the $150B we have today.
    
    Anyway, just a thought.
    * Note re Vernon Small, he is now Press Secretary to David Parker, of course.
    Ganesh Nana also was very vocal in supporting Labour’s ‘budget’. He is now head of the ‘Productivity Commission…
    
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    March 3, 2023 4:34pm
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Agree with all of that. The government has been very generous with pay settlements for the public service, as well as substantially increasing their number.
      But because Labour don’t believe in accountability, less gets done.
      
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      March 4, 2023 7:58am
Matt Long

Rail a winner for Northland, we really should divert more RUCs to 19th century tech.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/northlands-rail-link-to-take-up-to-three-months-to-reopen-with-50-slips-to-clear/FREREDGH4BAAJIU5L4HPB4NBPI/
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March 3, 2023 8:03am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  You lack ambition, Matt. Coastal shipping, 18th century tech, is the way to go.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:22am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Rail or Shipping, still need trucks to get the product there and deliver it at the other end. If you had breakfast this morning, thank a farmer and a truckie.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:12am
  - Taieri
    
    Coastal shipping, 18th century tech, is the way to go
    ——————–
    
    Very much 21st century if done the right way…
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:24am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      “if done the right way…”
      
      By this shower? You’re ‘aving a larf, sunshine!
      
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      March 3, 2023 4:23pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Canals, we should build canals.
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:48pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Bullock trains
      
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      March 3, 2023 4:24pm
- pdm
  
  I haven’t seen any reports on the Napier to Gisborne line but it was buggered well before Gabrielle arrived.
  
  Wait for the Greens to start screaming for it to be repaired and running again.
  
  I did that trip a few times in the 60’s and it was a great experience – not now though it is a lost cause.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:34am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Nats refused to fix that kind after washouts twice in 6 months, one customer and called uneconomic, Labour hated it, snd jumped up and down, now they want to get rid of some roads
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:33am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Roughly one train per week in each direction … hard to justify a multimillion repair spend.
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:33pm
- kevn
  
  I see msm is pleased hipkins is showing a welcome taste of integrity. As opposed to his predecessor?
  Politics chum, nothing more.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:21am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Hipkins had nothing to do with it, if media think that fixes the mess that was this week then they are deluded, note no leaked internals for a month, and they get results weekly
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:49am
- Ehlana
  
  si liaR
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:32am
  - Ehlana
    
    The curse of the backwards typing strikes again! What I was trying to say was that rail is probably a better option than narrow winding roads along steep hills for bulk freight, but if you live on a long narrow island on an earthquake fault, you should surely plan for places to be cut off.
    More self-sufficiency (local power, water & wastewater systems), emergency stores (including useful equipment and fuel), alternate delivery methods (by air or sea). Old fashioned technologies enabled humans to live in isolated places – maybe we should take another look at some of them.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:45am
kiwikidsnz

“Hate speech: you know it when you see it”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/poet-tusiata-avia-lashes-act-after-party-calls-book-the-savage-coloniser-racist-and-hate-fuelled.html
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March 3, 2023 8:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Not really understanding this, but it refers to the time of Captain James Cook.
  Racist and hate fuelled? I guess it is. Take it with a grain of salt.
  Same as some sating “Little House on the Prairie” is Racist. Look at the time it refers to.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_bI789Gog
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:21am
  - rouppe
    
    You have to play the same game as the revisionists.
    
    They won’t hesitate to call something racist, so it’s time to use their arrows against them.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:39am
- RockyJ
  
  A week ago I lodged a complaint with the Race Relations Commissioner on their website on this topic. It disappeared and I have yet to hear back even an acknowledgement that they got it. I phoned three days ago and left a message to phone me but still nothing. It is like I don’t exist. I filed a complaint with the police online and at least have a file number.
  
  Assessing how I feel about being non-personed by these state agencies I feel insignificant and angry. It is like the government wants us to become extreme.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:43am
  - Ghost
    
    Race relations commission yes, but why waste police time with this?
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:48am
    - RockyJ
      
      It is a threat to use a knife on white men. That is a crime
      
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      March 3, 2023 9:55am
      - Ghost
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        It’s a poem, stop wasting police time. Are you going to report all the books, movies and songs in New Zealand that contain violence?
        
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        March 3, 2023 9:59am
      - Matt Long
        
        So if I write a poem, song or art workk inciting people to murder or other crimes, that’s all right then?
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:12am
      - Ghost
        
        It’s not inciting anyone is it.
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:19am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Those very ideological plans were being tossed about in the 90s by east coast Māori
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:50am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    I wonder if anybody has complained to the RRC about Ze Master Race:
    
    It is a known fact that Maori genetic makeup is stronger than others
    
    Taken directly from the Maori Party website under their Sport and Wellbeing Policy section, and captured in a screenshot just in case they develop a sense of shame and delete it.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:56am
    - graham
      
      … and captured in a screenshot just in case they develop a sense of shame and delete it.
      
      Which is exactly what happened. I noticed this a few weeks ago … that particular sentence has quietly disappeared. The rest of the page appears to be identical, but the sentence you quote is no longer there.
      
      Check it out.
      
      https://www.maoriparty.org.nz/maori_sports
      
      But as we all know, the Internet never forgets – the original is easily seen on the Wayback Machine 🙂
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:16am
      - graham
        
        Looks like that sentence was quietly ‘cancelled’ sometime between October 4 and December 4 last year.
        
        Interestingly, I see that much of that speech was attributed to (or possibly quoted by?) the Ikaroa-Rāwhiti candidate Heather TeAu-Skipworth in 2020.
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northland-age/news/funding-promised-for-maori-sport/C3MD4AZ2FG5F2RQVHPELSOLIAE/
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:28am
    - Swifty
      
      Tom, yes, Sean Plunket has brought it up with Meng Foon directly several times.
      
      Meng did nothing about it. He just gave them a pass.
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:40am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I bet 100s of complaints have been made, nothing will be heard of it
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:51am
    - kisekiman
      
      It’s obvious then the NZ Maori Rugby team should represent New Zealand…sorry Aotearoa at the RWC.
      
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      March 3, 2023 4:03pm
- Swifty
  
  I wonder if I write a poem decrying all the thousands Pacific men who have arrived in NZ or were born here and who have gone on to rape, murder, shoot and bash, or increasingly to organise themselves in large scale drug importation and distribution and how I’d like to see them flayed and castrated alive and then beheaded before being thrown in communal pits – how would that go down right now?
  
  All cool because I wrote it as an art piece?
  
  How would we think Tusiata Avia might respond? Or Meng the Hypocrite? Or the various self-hating luvvies on social media who have come out in support of Avis’s poem lately?
  
  We know, don’t we?
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:38am
kiwikidsnz

Who knew ?

Buda Szerelem-Tolnay is a PhD student in health psychology at Victoria University of Wellington-Te Herenga Waka, studying the intricacies of the human-cat bond.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131381477/yes-cats-do-have-the-capacity-for-love
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March 3, 2023 8:05am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So will Buda Szerelem-Tolnay end up in psychology or be a Lecturer for life at the Uni?
  I think he is just repeating stuff from American Universities.
  What a great asset for NZ he is.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:29am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I’m personally waiting for the thesis that explains how aotearoan Siamese cats have resolved their LGBTIQ+ issues in the creation of a truly diverse inclusive society for themselves
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:17am
k1w1

Brad Olsen in today’s Herald, talking about reasons why (or why not) landlords have upped the prices of their rentals, proving he’s a Labour stooge. Not only does he not believe the prices are due to the recent compliance cost increases, he thinks LLs are using it merely as an excuse. Yet he goes on to say “it’s a supply & demand problem”, not recognising for a second that one of the reasons supply is down is due to LL’s selling up thanks to, you guessed it, increased compliance and regulation. Eejit.
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March 3, 2023 8:07am
- artemisia
  
  The article mentioned “The next most common reason, cited by 51 per cent, was to bring rent closer to “market rent”.”
  
  And that is a major factor, given that more than half of rentals are managed by property managers who are expected by most owners to pitch rent at or near the market. Including well above market rent if that works for the property. And many owners have no borrowing anyway, having paid off loans, so they are doing well, thank you. A reward for good management.
  
  Minister Woods says the number of rentals is increasing. I posted this the other day here, does make one wonder where the increase is coming from –
  
  Reserve Bank reports number of investors borrowing for residential property. Average per month – 2020 3,529 2021 3,145; 2022 1,860. And the RB also reports number of FHBs borrowing. Average per month – 2021 2,708; 2022 1,940.
  
  I do think there is a rental crisis, but maybe not much of one when the applicants landlords won’t touch are factored in. Due to Labour’s changes that make applicant risk assessment an absolute necessity.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:30am
- yobi
  
  As an owner of 12 rentals, I can tell you that all our rent increases are a reflection of this current governments compliance requirements.
  Supply and demand have never been an issue, the demand has always been higher than supply. Any delay in renting out a property is now due to poor tenancy laws that make us more cautious to who we’re willing to rent to.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:30am
  - coge
    
    I’ve owned/managed rentals since the 1990’s. It’s the Govt’s series of ham fisted actions that have pushed up rents. There really isn’t any other way of looking at it. I don’t like increasing rents at all, have many tenants who have lived over ten years in our properties. Over the last two years I have had to increase rents, and have advised the tenants the reason why it was necessary.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:14am
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  The boy is still wet behind the ears. He’s also a renter himself.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:22am
  - amospicton
    
    Yes, there’s an almost perfect correlation between economist’s views on housing and their status as owner/renter. More proof that economics is a ‘social’ science influenced more by the biases of those involved than cold hard facts.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:30am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I thought they were suggesting this morning the hikes are because of the annual price change forced on landlords, I would have thought those other compliance costs will have already been factored into rental price
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:53am
Matt Long

Family First has done an analysis of media coverage of last year’s freedom protests, unsurprisingly for those who saw it, the media misrepresented the protesters, failed to actually interview people on the ground and behaved as badly as the politicians.
https://familyfirst.org.nz/2023/03/02/media-release-analysis-of-media-coverage-of-parliament-protest-2022/
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March 3, 2023 8:09am
- Matt Long
  
  A bit of nostalgia from last year, the princess and Luzon in action.
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A
  Unfortunately Chris and Christopher don’t have quite the same chemistry.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:11am
  - Ruawai
    
    That is gold, Luxon needs to watch this to see how to be hip and swagger.
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:49am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The mainstream media in NZ are beyond inept, they are actually dangerous. I don’t say that lightly. They do not operate as a news organisation or as journalists. They are purely and simply talking heads, shills and stenographers. Truth is irrelevant and rarely appears, unless it is serving those who pay them.
  In most cases, this is the government. It’s propaganda, pure and simple.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:16am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Climate Change Protest.
On the idiot box play school TV1 this morning they showed a video of a previous protest.
A group of flakes holding a large banner that read something like “Farmers need to phase out faming animals” They have no idea what ‘Faming’ actually is. Animals are farmed, thing lamb (primary industry) Think chickens.
Sadly this is our future is. They just can’t think for themselves.
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March 3, 2023 8:13am
- Ruawai
  
  Not sure how they plan to eat if we remove farmers, will they all grow a few veges and have chickens in their back gardens, sounds a bit like hard for for these kids who probably spend a lot of time on their screens.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:50am
- slightlyrighty
  
  On TV3 they were interviewing some secondary student who thinks E-Bikes should get a 30-40% subsidy.
  
  I would tell this young chap to piss off. You’re minimum wage is nearly $23 an hour, get a part time job. You live at home. Your expenses are zip.
  
  Working 10 hours a week will give you $800 a month after tax. Save up for it! E Bikes start at a grand.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:51am
  - tedbear
    
    Secondary school education hmm..
    I imagine students don’t get taught that more fossil fuels are needed to manufacture e-bikes than original bikes.
    So he wants govt subsidies for using more fossil fuels.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:33am
  - rockape
    
    What about us that peddle, don’t we use enough rare earth minerals to get a subsidy?
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:57am
  - PeeJay
    
    Funny isn’t it. When I was 15, i got into heavy rock music and wanted to become a rock guitar god. I came from a piss poor family. Had a part time job – did this weird thing called saving (I know – crazy eh), eventually bought a guitar and also paid for lessons – learned how to play but sadly didn’t become a rock guitar god!
    
    Obviously I’m a mug – gubermint should have paid!
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:07am
    - Don Beckett
      
      It’s okay PeeJay.
      We know that – ‘Video killed the radio star’. 😆
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:19am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    In a Socialist World everything is free or subsidised by the Government. This is what they have been taught. Ask them who pays, they say “The Government” That is the end of it for them.
    The Government has no money, they have Net Taxpayer money! There is no way these try hard Socialists can comprehend this.
    We are doomed!
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:23am
    - Ian Boag
      
      subsidised by the Government.
      
      Probably need to keep up health, education, defence, police and the pension though ….
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:38pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Ian – yes, those are the things they are entrusted with managing.
        Fighting made up global bogeymen was not on the list of things to do. There is no indisputable evidence that they can present to prove these actions are needed.
        We’ve already witnessed one horrendously expensive, complete clusterfuck with their handling of the covid “pandemic”. This climate bs has the potential to dwarf that ineptitude.
        
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        March 3, 2023 2:24pm
  - Drone
    
    Sadly @slightlyrighty the student is taking from your playbook, subsidising Tesla buyers is OK but subsidising minimum wage earners is not. No wonder Chippy will romp in this year..
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:55am
  - Jim
    
    When I was at school (a long time ago) if the teachers asked: whose up for an authorised strike on Friday instead of school? We would have gone along for any cause, probably even abolishing Easter eggs.
    
    What a clever scam.
    
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    March 3, 2023 5:53pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Farming* Typos, must proof read more thoroughly
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:58am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Indoctrinated, ideological fuckwits, every last one of them. I despair, but this has been 30 years or more in the making. Liberal leftists have lost the plot completely.
  The old left, the working class, the cloth cap factory workers, at least they had merit. These dipsticks are a bunch of self entitled, narcissistic idiots with zero concept of the outcomes if their “demands” are met.
  
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  March 3, 2023 1:25pm
Tony Stuart

From the Do As We Say but Not As We Do department:

David Seymour @dbseymour

Bureaucrats from the Environment Ministry are lecturing New Zealanders to get out of their cars and into public transport. In 2022, staff at that department spent $1 million on flights and taxis and only $250 on public transport. Next level hypocrisy.
7:39 AM · Mar 2, 2023

https://twitter.com/dbseymour/status/1631001309636882432

You can’t make this sort of stuff up!
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March 3, 2023 8:15am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  But but but – public transport is free, isn’t it? There should be an inquiry into how the Ministry managed to spend $250.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:24am
- Scooter
  
  Except for when Auckland Transport is asking people not to travel on public transport during peak hours if possible.
  
  It says during March that buses, trains and ferries will be busier and more services will have standing room only.
  
  You really can’t make this shit up, Auckland/NZ is being run by clowns.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:45am
  - Ehlana
    
    Environment Ministry staff are probably based in Wellington, so unaffected by Auckland issues. They can probably also work from home or flexible hours, so should have no problem getting the buses before or after rush hour.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:15am
- Simon
  
  Enviro Minister & then there is the Enviro Protection Agency. Are they the same?
  
  Forestry slash big issue recently but its been an issue for a while now. Major environmental issue that affects a lot of people unaddressed for years by these wasters.
  
  What the fuck do all these EPA & Enviro Min clowns actually do all day? Fake carbon shit?
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:57am
  - Matt Long
    
    They think up more rules to screw private land owners and their other pet hate, productivity.
    Example from the Ministry for Environment, the Proposed national Statement on Biodiversity.
    A tree that MIGHT be in the flight path of native bates MUST be fenced and protected.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:39am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They slurp gravy
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:56am
  - backster
    
    Well they do a lot of flying from one end of the country to the other and support the taxi industry, but Public Transport is not for them.
    
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    March 3, 2023 1:00pm
- Ghost
  
  What is this public transport everyone talks about? Must be a city thing,
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:08am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s those big long empty things belching diesel fumes .
    
    “Greens” think they’re good for the environment.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:47am
artemisia

About Mr Campbell. Reckon he has been hard done by, especially with that word ‘sacked’ next to every mention of his name.. He says he has been sacked because he has promoted go-governance in his chaired organisations and publicly. If that is even at least partly the case, and there does appear to be a trout in the milk, then he was completely aligned with government policy. Until about 5 minutes ago.

No problem at all with employees, especially in top roles, having their services dispensed with, but delivering effectively against contracted or agreed performance indicators surely has to come into play somewhere in the process. Whether Mr Campbell has delivered or not, no idea, but he has a lot of governance experience.

But this is an election year and the Labour world has tilted on its axis to accommodate political reality. Someone is suddenly out of step. Couple of months ago would Mr Campbell have been sacked or applauded for his public comments?

A Chairman scorned?

It’s not just him, Minister Mahuta will be spending a lot of time out of the country, and she and others have been sidelined. Did I mention election year?
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March 3, 2023 8:16am
- rouppe
  
  He was chair of Health New Zealand and the Environmental Protection Agency.
  
  The health system in New Zealand is a shambles. Unless you’re bleeding to death right here right now.
  
  The EPA did nothing about the known problem of slash even though Bola showed it was a problem. Result? Complete environmental destruction out east.
  
  So if he did meet performance indicators, they had nothing to do with health or environmental protection.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:46am
  - artemisia
    
    The contract has, or should have, performance indicators to be measured against. If they are rubbish that’s up to whoever made the appointment, in this case Ministers.
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:49pm
- Paulus
  
  Mahuta is away in Singapore and Japan, and her Tats will not amuse the Yakusa in Japan without permission.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:25am
  - Jim
    
    Like him or hate him (typically for what he did creating JA) but Winston Peters had the mana, knowledge, charisma and intellect to represent NZ very well as our Foreign Minister.
    
    As for today, sheeeesh I’m not sure if we’re even in the same league. By comparison I’ve never heard the current incumbent utter even one coherent sentence on anything, let alone complex geopolitical issues.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:53am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He called the leader of the opposition a racist, but he is fine for the vulgarities of Jackson
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:57am
- Gravelroad
  
  @ artemisia-
  I think that if the Labour Party has pissed off Mr Campbell sufficiently, he could cause them a bit more trouble in the run up to this election.
  He must know exactly what the detailed plans are for
  for co-governance and beyond. Not to mention a few other controversial policies being kept under wraps for now.
  An activist friend scorned is sometimes a friend lost.
  Revenge is sweet, and all that.
  Nothing that $$$$$$$$ and an easy job somewhere else won’t fix perhaps. What about a nice position at the World Health org for instance?
  To keep quiet about certain matters before the election….
  
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  March 3, 2023 1:26pm
Grunter

NZ, as with the rest of ‘The West’ are on the wrong side of history in supporting Ukraine. We should end all support for Ukraine and demand that the UN enforce the Minsk Agreement. To do anything else risks full on WW3 and nuclear war.
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March 3, 2023 8:16am
- MCōs
  
  What’s the Minsk Aggreement?
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:14am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    MCōs – Minsk II was the con job that the US, particularly Victoria Nuland helped formulate to con the Russians into believing that there was a treaty in place that would serve the needs of all parties without needing to go to war.
    
    As admitted by Angela Merkel, it was actually a ruse to enable Ukraine to prepare for this inevitable war which Ms Nuland has been not so secretly fomenting since prior to the US managed coup that was instigated in 2014. John McCain went over and personally told the Ukrainians that the US had their back.
    Up until the last Ukrainian is dead that is, then they’ll abandon them the way they abandoned Afghanistan.
    
    All the info is available online. If you have trouble finding it let me know, I’ll get it for you.
    The US doing what they do best, destabilising countries and overthrowing governments who refuse to bow down to whatever they demand. They are the mafia of the planet. Except more devious.
    
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    March 3, 2023 2:31pm
    - Matt Long
      
      So when was Ukraine going to invade Russia? Where were they massing troops on the border?
      Was it a rebellion and in fact Ukraine is a vassal state of Russia?
      
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      March 3, 2023 2:47pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Matt Long – the information is readily available for anyone wanting to research it. 14,000 dead in Eastern Ukraine since 2014. It was an ongoing genocide of Russian speaking people. The Minsk Agreement was an attempt to find some sort of peace. As per my post above, it was a bullshit delaying tactic while the US prepared Ukraine to be the proxy they felt could weaken Russia to the point where they could overthrow Putin and install another puppet like Yeltsin who almost destroyed the country.
        The US are in the process of decoupling from Ukraine. Their plan isn’t going according to plan. Other than all out nuclear war, which nobody wins. this particular war isn’t going as they wanted.
        I don’t support Russia, I don’t support war at all. But I can see the reality of what has sadly happened in Ukraine over the last 20 years,.
        
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        March 3, 2023 11:01pm
- kowtow
  
  No the UN must demand that all members be democratic and build civil societies .
  
  Forget the weather fixation , we’re facing nuclear obliteration .
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:34am
  - Matt Long
    
    The UN is the most corrupt, corrosive institution on earth. I presume your post is sarcasm?
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:23pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      I thought that was FIFA
      
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      March 3, 2023 4:33pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  NATO should be abolished, it should have happened in 1991.
  
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  March 3, 2023 2:32pm
- Jim
  
  Based upon current developments there’s only two likely outcomes:
  1. Tactical withdrawal by the West and diplomatic agreement accepted by Putin ( the MSM will spin this to sound like a semi victory).
  2. The West (Biden et al) will drag everyone into WW3 in Europe.
  
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  March 3, 2023 5:59pm
Maggie Pie

Unbelievable the number of woke leftards out there tweeting how uncouth they think Wayne Brown is and questioning his suitability for public office 🙁

Everybody we know reckon he’s doing a fabulous job!
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March 3, 2023 8:20am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Latest news, Auckland councilors are fuming because they no longer get free lunches.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:25am
  - MCōs
    
    I think the issue was the unavailability of appropriate food food in the neighbourhood.
    Personally I think for the cost of some sandwiches and sausage rolls they might have been better off to keep everyone in the room working and told them to bring their own lunch next time.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-councillor-maurice-williamsons-chinese-food-lunch-disappointment/NAQHFKWOYVHXLKX7MKZQSDARTU/
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He is maybe showing them up (Councilors) and they don’t like their comfortable lifestyle upset.
  Drain the Swamp.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:30am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Love how he made all the council troughers pay for their own lunch yesterday. From what we hear the Minister-for-Auckland’s missus was apoplectic!
    
    LOL
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:45am
    - Nickc2
      
      Does that mean she couldn’t top up her Doggy Bag?
      
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      March 3, 2023 8:56am
    - pdm
      
      Maggie – one does not need a vivid imagination to realise that Mrs Minister For Auckland only likes to spend other peoples money.
      
      Hubby too of course.
      
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      March 3, 2023 8:57am
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      My late wife was a temp at ACC and she had to attend committee meetings to take minutes etc.
      
      She could not believe the money spent on catering and what the committee member got.
      
      Not just a cuppa and some bikkies at tea time or a few sammies and a cuppa at lunch. Catered spreads no less.
      
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      March 3, 2023 9:03am
      - Mummy
        
        I too had a business that included professional minute taking. We’re not only talking lunches but pre meeting coffee and morning and afternoon teas as well. All with scones and biscuits. Add up all that time plus the wailing and hand quivering at the start and finish and sometimes I only had to work about 3 hours out of 6 or 7. These were government departments of course. The private boards made you grab a sandwich and keep working.
        
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        March 3, 2023 1:48pm
    - OlderChas
      
      Well done Mr Mayor. Keep it up!
      
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      March 3, 2023 9:19am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So Julie Fairey just got taught there is no such thing as a free lunch!
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:28am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        I learned that the first my partner took me out 😛
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:52am
- Prince
  
  He didn’t call someone an arrogant pr&ck did he ?
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:33am
- peterwn
  
  Yes. He runs the show, not the MSM or the Minister for Auckland. And the Minister for Auckland (unlike the Minister of Health with respect to Rob Campbell) cannot sack him.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:39am
- Stu2
  
  Fabulous job? Really?
  
  Standout job getting the auckland west coast back up, and keeping them informed?
  
  Clarity on the options for the Auckland streets subject to repeat flooding?
  
  He might not be a politican but he doesn’t seem to be a mayor either
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:03am
- MCōs
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  One doesn’t have to be a ‘woke leftward’ to understand His Worship is a foul mouthed, bad tempered old man up way past his bed time.
  He doesn’t seem to like media people except according to his people he didn’t know the person he snapped at was a media person.
  No wonder his 2IC fills in for him when it comes to answering curly questions.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:39am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    My partner’s mum knows Desley. Reckons she’d do anything for Wayne…unlike her time with Goof.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:59am
    - MCōs
      
      Everyone seems to know someone in Auckland.
      Personally I rather be the someone, but chose another life.
      Referring back to the incident at the Art Gallery; here’s some more details from the Spinoff whose man was slighted not only by the Mayor, before he was ushered away by his no doubt despairing minder, but one of the Mayor’s supporters.
      https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/02-03-2023/dont-fucking-come-and-talk-to-me-wayne-brown-snaps-at-arts-funding-question?utm_source=spinoff-share-button&utm_medium=spinoff-app
      
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      March 3, 2023 2:58pm
  - peterwn
    
    I would far rather have Wayne as Mayor of Wellington than that greenie (supported and sponsored by Stuff) we are lumbered with.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:05am
    - MCōs
      
      Oh! It’s Wayne is it?
      Is that how you address him without being barked at?
      I say Wayne, you got a minute?
      Fuck off!
      
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      March 3, 2023 10:13am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        😀
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:20am
      - Don Beckett
        
        MCos.
        It’s results that count, not fancy smarmy greasing words, and crawling to a hostile press.
        See how Auckland is in – say – 3 years time, then pass judgement.
        
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        March 3, 2023 10:22am
  - amospicton
    
    Sounds very much like you’re referring to the leader of the free world MCos. Or is he OK because he’s on the right side of the aisle?
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:43am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    He’s not a bad judge of character, the vast majority of the media on NZ are moronic, liberal leftists who couldn’t investigate a story if it was handed to them on a plate. Nothing but a bunch of shills and stenographers sucking off the taxpayer teat.
    
    Brown is being honest in his contempt for them. Better than a plastic fraud like “kind and caring” Ardern was.
    
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    March 3, 2023 2:37pm
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      I dare say that the vast majority of journalists do know how to research and put together a good story. The problem is that they are being prevented from doing so.
      
      They can’t be a happy group.
      
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      March 3, 2023 8:09pm
  - Warren
    
    Ha ha this coming from someone that is a expert at everything but Master of none.
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:07pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Sounds like he’s severely allergic to woketards.
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:24pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Especially now it’s turned out that he spent much of the day trying too contact government departments that refused to take his call
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:59am
  - MCōs
    
    The Dunedin rumour mill working overtime.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:53am
Bridgenag

EXCLUSIVE: Dr Peter McCullough calls for ‘unsafe’ vaccines to be taken off the market, links vaccines to excess deaths
An in depth interview with Dr McCullough on the emergency following mass vaccination

https://open.substack.com/pub/rebekahbarnett/p/exclusive-dr-peter-mccullough-calls?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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March 3, 2023 8:22am
- Simon
  
  Except for the leftie woke public sector no one is still injecting this shit in NZ right?
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:49am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Simon – anyone who does deserves absolutely everything they get. It’s now Darwinism in play.
    
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    March 3, 2023 2:39pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Look at these NHS stroke stats. Notice anything?
  
  The truth has been leaking slowly, but it is now flowing more strongly. The lies. The exhalation to ‘follow The Science™’ when the science was simply whatever the trainee totalitarians and their paymasters felt they could get away with.
  
  Who is ready for the next psyop? If you were fooled (and potentially injured) by the vaxx lies then it’s time to smarten up and learn to question assertions and the motives of those who demand emotional and bodily subservience.
  
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  March 3, 2023 11:31am
Nickc2

Bye Bye Rob Campbell
Don’t let the door slam you in the arse on the way out!!
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March 3, 2023 8:24am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  What about Lori the anti Tory
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:59am
  - Nickc2
    
    Lori Lightfoot, how she lasted as Mayor of Chicago for four years beats me. Another Dodo bites the dust.
    I was always under the impression she was Obama’s sister. Dunno why, must be the ears.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:53am
Bridgenag

Friday afternoon off for school kids mounting “climate change ” protest. sigh……..

Sat next to couple with masks on at the APO last night………couldn’t resist asking if they were protecting me from the flu…….
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March 3, 2023 8:27am
- Paulus
  
  As these “Climate Change” children do not vote they are are of little relevence to this Government.
  Cameron Bagrie has the best – in effect
  Today in New Zealand the most important thing is to be able to pay the bills, and not anything to do with Climate Change”.
  These school children pay virtually nothing, except GST, towards the wellbeing of New Zealand.
  When they pay PAYE and Council, and other Rates then they will have the right to vote whatever they feel.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:33am
- ClanMcleod
  
  It is really sad. They are being indoctrinated in front of us.
  We got sent an email from our girl’s school asking us to give permission to attend this farce. Not a chance in a million years. She doesn’t want to go anyway, but the school enabling this is awful.
  
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  March 3, 2023 2:47pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  More child abuse from the far left.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Another idiot reporter on play school TV1.
Round the Bays. She says “garb your running shoes and head to http://www.roundthebays.co.nz”
Why the fuck do you want to wear running shoes to go to a webpage?
What am I missing here?
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March 3, 2023 8:27am
- peterwn
  
  I can understand this. Only a teacher of an English grammar class 100 years ago would object.
  
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  March 3, 2023 8:42am
Lance

Judith Colins and Michael Wood on AM this morning was brilliant

Judith was relaxed and ran circles verbally around hapless Wood. She gave concise answers to any questions vs unending drivel from Wood that never actually said anything.
She quoted stats to every point and exposed the woolly energy polices of this govt etc.
It was a masterclass in how to present on television.
A pity the low-life media have it in for her.
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March 3, 2023 8:29am
- RoboRob
  
  Like Judith. Thought she was weak on electric bikes. Her comment was that we have more important things to spend our money on at the moment. While true she should have raised the issue that subisies like this are inappropriate and un needed. There is a mass of economic evidence around subsidies like this actually making things worse. The ev subsidy simply helps finance the well off into cars at the cost of the rest of society.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:10am
- Simon
  
  Lol – the woke leftie senior public bureaucrats will get revenue against Collins on behalf of Wood in due course.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:53am
  - peterwn
    
    Nah! Judith is too smart. In 2009 or so she claimed the scamp of the Corrections CEO when she was Corrections Minister. The senior bureaucrats do recognise that senior opposition MP’s will most probably be Ministers this year.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:11am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  But but but oil pipeline (sarc)
  
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  March 3, 2023 11:01am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  She’s just been pulled into Luxon’s office for some instruction on climate minimising. She left with a pile of reading material.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:42pm
- MCōs
  
  Make her Nat leader again.
  She didn’t get a fair shake from the voters the first time.
  So misunderstood!
  
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  March 3, 2023 2:04pm
AC

Interesting interview with Ian Wishart on the Platform. Basically he has done research on past weather events using Papers Past. The vast majority of these events are not in the NIWA database of serious events. This database is used by journalists to fact check.

So some pretty serious omissions. For the period 1868 through to 1890 which was the period looked at we had a significant event every year.

Something worth calling out and digging deeper. I wonder if Stuff will be up for job ( Sarc)
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March 3, 2023 8:35am
- backster
  
  Yes NIWA even omitted to include Cyclone Bola. Sean said he would include the link on the U Tube item but it is not there, nor could I find any link to the published Investigate Magazine article. Anyone know the link. I recall about 20 years ago a Southern snowstorm so bad that the Army was called in to rescue stock from the tops. I couldn’t find it but a search of Worst snowstorms shows many extreme events.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:43am
  - Gertie
    
    There was a shocker in 1992. Many high country farmers lost big numbers of stock. I have heard some horror stories about it.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:40am
- Oskar
  
  Here is a link to the article – its a long read but looks well researched
  https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/climate-of-fear-report
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:08am
  - Oskar
    
    I should have added that Ian Wishart noted that the NIWA’s historic weather events database is missing a lot of major storms that hit New Zealand. Between 1868 and 1890 New Zealand was being yearly hit by storms on Cyclone Bola intensity. That was 22 major storms in 22 years and only 4 are on the NIWA database. For his research he used Papers Past where reporters would have a beat so would report regularly on their area – and the shipping reporter would record shipping arrivals and departures as well as other events that affected shipping. The sea captains and the ports regularly took the barometric pressure readings to get an idea of weather changes – lives could depend on this. In major storms these readings were included in the shipping news. Its these low pressure readings. Wishart was looking for.
    Wishart notes that:
    • Five storms geographically bigger and with deeper barometric lows than Cyclone Gabrielle struck New Zealand between 1868 and 1890, revealing that what we call a 1-in-250yr event was actually closer to a 1-in-4yr event back then
    • The late 1800s was a much colder, low carbon climate, raising fundamental questions about how extreme weather events play out in the real world vs computer modelling
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:56am
- PeeJay
  
  It’s been interesting seeing the media react to this – most serious ever, completely unprecedented……except for that one back then……or that other one……but hey, climate change crisis!!!! Facts can be such a bitch sometimes!!!
  
  Read an interesting ‘climate change crisis’ story on the Guardian. Yep very left and very woke but it’s free, their sports coverage is awesome and their investigative reporting is still up there amongst the best in the world. Apparently the main canal in Ottawa won’t be suitable for ice skating for the entire winter – wow, clearly an example of climate change eh? Then in the same article they mention that this is the first time this has happened………in half a century. Hmm. So what you are saying is that this event has happened before? Doesn’t that run slightly counter to your argument about climate change crisis? As in it has happened before, so not really unprecedented is it? Sigh!
  
  I have always been willing to give the climate change argument a fair hearing but it’s really hard to do so when it is so clearly agenda driven. While one side cherry picks data and conveniently ignores things like solar storms, the mini-ice age recovery, tries to manipulate data etc, the other can sometimes look like the pro-cigarette lobby from the 60’s and 70’s!
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:22am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The cyclone that sank the ferry with a similar name to this one sand blasted the paint of the side of ambulances, never heard that this time
  
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  March 3, 2023 11:03am
- cmm
  
  In my dealings with NIWA I have only ever seen sketchy advocacy masquerading as science.
  
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  March 3, 2023 11:16am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Looks like they’ve been captured by the Red(/Green) climate Mafia.
    
    Speak out against (or merely question) the prevailing narrative and you’ll be looking for a new career. A wee bit like The Nats it would appear.
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:35pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

More than half of humans on track to be overweight or obese by 2035 – report.

Now that Covid is done & we’re all getting bored of climate change, this is the next Wokefest where Lefties will demand that you curb your personal choices, pay more tax and fund the Third World.

You read it here first.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/02/more-than-half-of-humans-on-track-to-be-overweight-or-obese-by-2035-report
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March 3, 2023 8:58am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  I think the next agenda will be “compensation” to developing countries for climate change. New Zealand was the first country to sign up.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:22am
  - peterwn
    
    NZ has just about hit ‘developing country’ status.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:13am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Yep cripple country’s economies by making them waste trillions on a flaky climate hypothesis pushed by the far left.
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:39pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Because injections worked so well the first time round …
  
  http://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/13/weight-loss-jabs-to-be-sold-via-high-street-chemists
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:26am
- MCōs
  
  You may be bored of climate change, but it ain’t bored of you. More precisely it doesn’t care.
  When I first went to work in Bangkok in 1993 there were few obese kids. By the the time I left maybe half the kids were. In the meantime places like Starbucks & copycats had sprung up all over place selling various sugar laden beverages. Plus American junk food outlets are everywhere where they weren’t before.
  Up country none of these places have taken a hold and the population remains in good shape, generally.
  Just my observation.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:14pm
  - kowtow
    
    Corelation is not causation.
    
    A Thai study of your post could just as easily corelate your time spent in the big city to causing the increase in obesity there .
    
    Mcos made Thai kids fat.
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:39pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Well correlation is not causation seemed to be the mantra of the Branch Covidians when the all cause mortality numbers went north in a hurry. Yours is every bit as plausible as theirs!
      
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      March 3, 2023 2:52pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    A lack of personal responsibility of course 🙂
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:46pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    You are partially correct.
    But not just sugar food/drinks
    
    But it seems its processed food that causes the problem. Not just fast food joints.
    
    But all the processed food in markets. Quick noodles springs to mind
    
    Tim Spector explains the problem
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66hWntvp0_4&t=753s
    
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    March 3, 2023 7:23pm
Captain Mainwaring

Cycle track to Eastbourne is not going to cost $79 million, all for about a dozen cyclists a day.
FFS, it must be someone else’s money.
Words fail me.
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March 3, 2023 9:04am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  NOW, not NOT.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:05am
RoboRob

Yesterday I debated limiting rate rises with Wayne Mapp. He argued the limiting rates would lead to failing core infrastructure, like water. My reply was the unlimited rates have also led to ‘failing core infrastructure’. It is the same argument I have with ‘consultation periods’. In concept there are a great idea. The reality is they are a total waste of money and time. Super cities, I thought (logically) they would save money and improve services. The reality is more waste and poorer outcomes.

Both the left and right fall into this trap. People are willing to ignore reality if it doesn’t match their beliefs. The ‘new’ reading system used in schools was supposed to be better than the phonics it replaced. After decades of proof that it is worse, educators still refuse to admit its a failure. Communism is the ultimate example. After centuries of communist countries turning into dictatorial meat grinders for their populations, young people and educators still insist ‘they just didn’t do it right, communism is great’
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March 3, 2023 9:05am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  One problem with politicians is that they have an overwhelming belief that they are correct about everything. IMO Wayne Mapp exhibits that in his comments here.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:24am
- Ian Boag
  
  The ‘new’ reading system used in schools was supposed to be better than the phonics it replaced
  
  It’s called “whole language”. If you dig around a bit in this area you will find seriously well qualified people on both sides of this debate … I suspect the endorsement of phonics by KB posters is related to them being old people who learned that way ….
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:49pm
  - RoboRob
    
    You just proved my point 🙂
    
    I dont have to dig around. The figures are out. Since we moved to the new system the RESULTS are that kids reading levels have dropped.
    
    Regardless of the theorys for and against by academics, we have actual real world results to look at. As per my point 🙂
    
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    March 3, 2023 2:55pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Whole language used to be described as look and guess. That works well enough if you have the life experiences and background knowledge that enable you to make an educated guess. (It’s how most of us decipher the Maorified English our public sector currently loves).
    But, if you come from a home that hasn’t given you the experiences and knowledge, you can be left drowning in incomprehension.
    
    I suspect that a combination of the two approaches would probably work well.
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:32pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      a combination of the two approaches
      
      Yeah. Some of the stuff thrown up by a Google search on “phonics vs whole language” suggests a phonic approach can be a fallback when a word just won’t come. And of course the trouble with English is that phonics falls over so quite often – quart/part – cough/bough/through – and all that.
      
      Now if we were looking at Spanish (or Russian) where how it is written is how you say it ….
      
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      December 3, 2022 7:22pm
Matt Long

Twitter has increased its user base and improved its user interface after halving its workforce and purging its Regressive activist thought police. While Woke corporations have pulled advertising it’s likely the increased number of users and engagement with the site will result in greater revenue than when Twitter was a pure leftist sewer.
The NZ public service is considerably more complex than Twitter but is likewise bloated with waste, full of Regressive activists and turning NZ into a failed state.
Could we ask Musk to become the NZ Government’s CEO one he steps back at Twitter?
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March 3, 2023 9:11am
Frank the tank

This country is literally falling apart.

As a keen scholar of Classical history the demise of New Zealand has some considerable similarities to that of Rome.

We have already had our Caligula with Ardern are we now to have our Nero with Hipkins?
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March 3, 2023 9:15am
- rangitoto
  
  Nero was one of the best Emperors. Don’t fall for the fake news of Tacitus and Suetonius.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:27am
  - Don Beckett
    
    You’ve got to be joking !!
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:46pm
  - backster
    
    He was quite a good musician too.
    
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    March 3, 2023 1:11pm
    - rangitoto
      
      He was but not the fiddle as often claimed. That instrument wasn’t invented until the tenth century. Nero was an Emperor for the people, which is why the elites like Tacitus disliked him.
      
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      March 3, 2023 1:38pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Nero set Rome on fire – led one of the most vicious persecutions of Christians & Jews – had sex with his mother – had boys castrated so he could keep having sex with them, and was also quite insane.
        Arguably the most deviant of an extremely deviant bunch.
        
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        March 3, 2023 4:57pm
- MCōs
  
  “This country is literally falling apart.”
  
  Let’s not be melodramatic.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:16pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Let’s not be delusional MCōs. Education. The economy. Crime. Racial issues. Cost of living. Confidence in the country’s future. Homelessness. Neomarxist capture of institutions. All seriously fkd up.
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:46pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

A woman from London has completed a decade-long mission to sample a scone at every National Trust location with a tearoom or restaurant.

A noble effort.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/02/woman-completes-10-year-national-trust-scone-tasting-mission
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March 3, 2023 9:23am
- peterwn
  
  50+ years ago, someone could have made it their mission to eat a railway pie from every railway refreshment room in NZ.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:20am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I distinctly remember the smell of the railway pie from my early childhood. Peas, mince and that slightly dank baked pastry smell.
    
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    March 3, 2023 8:48pm
Chuck Bird

Which is the most likely cause of the flooding?

1. – Hhuman emissions

2. Watching porn as Brian Tamaki suggests

Uptick for 1
Down tick for 2
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March 3, 2023 9:28am
- All_on_Red
  
  3. Tongan Volcanic Eruption
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PDQ-EfqTViM
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:39am
  - PeeJay
    
    Has anyone in our MSM actually referenced this, along with the el nino / la nina? I know it doesn’t ‘fit the narrative’ but surely it’s worth a story or two? I know it’s complex and might be too much for the talking bobble-heads on play-school news, but it’s pretty interesting and is far more plausible an explanation for the reasonably unseasonable summer in both NZ and Australian east coast.
    
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    March 3, 2023 10:30am
    - riffer
      
      Indeed PeeJay.
      
      Reading the abstract of this scientific paper, it looks plausible:
      
      https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13351-022-2013-6
      
      For those who don’t have time to read it, the pertinent words are:
      
      Some climatologists believe that this event will cause little effect on global climate change while others insist that it will trigger “the year without a summer” as the Tambora eruption did in 1815.
      
      I’m leaning towards it being a factor in our weather. However, it’s a small blip on the trend for continued temperature increases.
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:34pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        How do they measure the Temperature?
        Is it with Digital Instruments?
        I ask because I keep seeing things like ‘hottest year evah, by .12 C.
        We must have some pretty accurate devices to be that precise eh.
        So what do we use?
        
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        March 3, 2023 4:07pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        the Tambora eruption
        
        From what I have read, Tambora dwarfed Krakatoa which in turn dwarfed Tonga ….
        
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        March 3, 2023 7:27pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/02/ian-bradford-cyclones-weather-events.html
      
      Not the MSM, but a pretty decent explanation of the weather we’re experiencing.
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:35pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Grief Dennis, that must be about the Sixth nom de plume you’ve had.
        [ Mod : c’mon Maggy – this sounds like semi-doxxing. The big blog crime … stop it … ]
        
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        December 3, 2022 1:41pm
      - PeeJay
        
        Great link Maggy – you are always good for providing good sources! Appreciated!
        
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        March 3, 2023 12:56pm
      - Ignoranus
        
        Why not just accept the science:
        
        CO2 and Stefan-Boltzmann Law
        Rain and Clausius-Clapeyron equation
        
        Ask Con to explain it to you.
        
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        March 3, 2023 1:06pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Dennis really likes to pick on you Maggy.
        I reckon he has a problem with women.
        
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        March 3, 2023 4:08pm
    - Matt Long
      
      Yes, saw on article yesterday on why the Tongan volcano did nothing and all storms are totally caused by climate change, totally caused by eating meat and milk.
      
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      March 3, 2023 12:35pm
      - alex Masterley
        
        Matt, you forgot watching porn…
        
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        March 3, 2023 2:24pm
  - Ignoranus
    
    Total nonsense. The water sent into the stratosphere by Tongan volcano was say 150 thousand tonnes; the rain dumped around Auckland was hundreds of millions of tonnes.
    
    Due to increased CO2 warming the surface and the oceans – marine heat waves.
    
    You could learn some science if you wanted to, there’s a lot of it but it’s not conceptually difficult – just needs the courage to face reality.
    
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    March 3, 2023 1:02pm
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      The Tongan volcano sent a damn site more than 150k tonnes of water into the atmosphere.
      
      150k tonnes is what a mid size crude oil tanker would carry!!!
      
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      March 3, 2023 1:55pm
    - rangitoto
      
      The 10% increase in stratospheric water vapour can have a major impact. The effect is due to water being the major greenhouse gas and it takes a long time for water to move from the stratosphere back into the troposphere. I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the rain came directly from water vaporised by the volcano.
      
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      March 3, 2023 2:14pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Ignoranus – you mean the “science” like the covid “science”?
      
      Yeah nah……..
      
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      March 3, 2023 2:56pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ignoranus (what an apt nom de plume) clearly didnt watch the video.
        If he did, he would see we aren’t seeing the water from the Volcano eruption raining on us, but wet weather caused by the Volcanoes water vapour interfering with the Southern Annual Mode down at Antarctica
        The fool probably also thinks that 1 Argos Buoy for every 93,000 sq kms of Ocean is giving us accurate measurements but I guess he’s a sucker for a pretty picture.
        You know, those big red scary ones.
        LOL
        
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        March 3, 2023 4:05pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Ignoramus no. You’re big on bluster and short on knowledge. Just known ocean cycles.
      
      You have no idea how much human Co2 heats the planet. It’s the “climate sensitivity” question.
      
      Looking at the work of serious atmospheric physicists who aren’t just cancel-culture narrative pushers, it would appear climate sensitivity is low (definitely MUCH lower than what the alarmists are claiming with their shaky hypothesis).
      
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      March 3, 2023 8:59pm
- kowtow
  
  2 could give ya 1.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:28am
Maggie Pie

Remember earlier in the week I posted about Nashie’s close ties to the Forestry Industry…. and included the link showing where he had received sizeable donations from the sector at the past three elections?

Now we see where the NZ Forestry president James Treadwell is saying…. findings of the ‘short, sharp, very targeted slash enquiry’ the minister announced last week, may be viewed with suspicion by the wider public given Stewies relationship with the industry. Is it an impediment to how he’s perceived? Yep, definitely, those things are always an impediment.
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March 3, 2023 9:52am
- riffer
  
  NZ is such a small country, everybody knows everybody else. I would have thought Hekia Parata to be above that kind of partiality. I would have been far more concerned had they elected, say, Trevor Mallard, as chair.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:36pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Trevor’s busy offending the good people of Ireland.
    
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    March 3, 2023 1:23pm
Flossie

Giving the vote to 16 year olds has reared its head again. Only if criminal responsibility is also part of the deal could I even consider this.
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March 3, 2023 10:10am
- Prince
  
  They can vote, but you can’t laugh at their hypocrisy.
  Another protected species to add to the list.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:42am
- I remember when
  
  Flossie:
  Fortunately the need for ‘responsibility’, other than when voting, is very restricted.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:47pm
Swifty

Why does Ardern’s LinkedIn profile still have her as NZ’s Prime minister I wonder?

She’s had/got tens of comms staff in her office for PR matters – is it just slackness that no-one has updated it yet?

Why hasn’t she done it herself?

I see too that Hipkins’ profile hasn’t been updated either.
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March 3, 2023 10:13am
- Swifty
  
  Seriously, once it was agreed that she was to resign to try to salvage electoral victory in October, wasn’t there someone, anyone, responsible for pulling together the list of actions for a transition to Hipkins and then knocking them off?
  
  It just looks slack that weeks later basic housekeeping hasn’t been completed.
  
  What other things are still out there flapping in the breeze? What else have they forgotten to do?
  
  Labour, you suck. Can’t even get the basics right.
  
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  March 3, 2023 11:32am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Native Hawaiians to be sentenced for hate crime attack on white man.

Some interesting parallels with NZ.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/native-hawaiians-sentencing-hate-crime-attack-white-man
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March 3, 2023 10:14am
BeaB

If blackface, yellow face and red face are all unacceptable, why are the grotesque parodies of women not only acceptable but applauded? In fact, they are invited into our public libraries to parade amongst children.
So woman face is ok, however ghastly.
It’s a funny old world when parents think this representation of women is great fun for little kids.
Bring back the minstrel shows then.
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March 3, 2023 10:20am
- kowtow
  
  There’s a media created row in the UK right now where some “working class” actress has objected to richer background actresses playing the part of working class lasses.
  
  That’s how ridiculous that thing’s got.
  
  Back to your topic though .
  For 2 days now the Whoreald has given a fair bit of covergae to the Avondale Library nonsense .
  
  Today it’s accompanied by an Emmerson cartoon lampooning the righteous protesters as having been ‘sucessfully groomed by the gormless American Christian right”
  
  Failing to report that this drag business originated in the US , California . and looks to be far left and definitely counter cultural.
  
  Why can’t these lefty activists and their enablers in libraries just let kids be kids without all the identity politics stuff.
  
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  March 3, 2023 10:44am
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    My guess is that it’s like the Green religion, you can’t recruit them if you’re not among them. That’s why the Greens have School Teachers of their religion embedded in schools.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:01am
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    I’ve got an idea.
    Pay actors and actress a shitty income.
    
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    March 3, 2023 11:13am
Maggie Pie

Thort this was a parody account….but no, she’s serious!

https://twitter.com/shoshanahjacobs/status/1630680106422403072

All that gear but no shampoo obviously 🙁
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March 3, 2023 10:48am
- riffer
  
  Having said that, she hasn’t had covid yet.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:38pm
- I remember when
  
  Like you Maggie I missed the research about the effect purple hair has on covid prevention.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:41pm
- JamesP
  
  Apparently crazy eyes and hair help with social distancing.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:49pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Purple hair. How surprising.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:02pm
Ghost

Australia have been doing this for years haven’t they?

Random roadside drug testing was seen as a key action point in the Government’s 2040 Road to Zero strategy target to reduce road deaths and injuries by 40%.

But it turns out the kits required to carry out those roadside tests simply don’t exist.

One news
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March 3, 2023 11:38am
- riffer
  
  It’s problematic. Consider:
  
  How would you feel if you were pulled up and charged because you’d had a glass of red wine or two two weeks previously?
  
  Roadside drug tests don’t show impairment. Worse yet, you can be done for smoking a joint at a party two weeks previous, while somebody who has been on a meth bender for two weeks previously, and is on the way to their dealer because they ran out of meth six hours ago tests negative.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:40pm
  - Ghost
    
    According to the aussies 2 days I how long some of the drugs remain in the system with these tests
    
    https://adf.org.au/insights/roadside-drug-testing/
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:52pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    Not mention that the test takes about 20-30 minutes – sample obtained – put into $50k machine – wait 20 minutes for test to be clear … bit hard to run 100% stop/test on a busy road.
    
    There is no accepted “threshold” level like the .05 or .08 for booze. Plus the fact that metabolites hang about for a week or two.
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:58pm
    - Ghost
      
      The officer takes a sample of your saliva by placing an absorbent collector in the mouth or on the tongue for a few seconds. The sample is then analysed at the roadside, which takes around three minutes. If the test is positive, it must be confirmed by laboratory testing before charges can be laid
      
      https://adf.org.au/insights/roadside-drug-testing/
      
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      March 3, 2023 1:02pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Sorry. My bad. I guess I was working off some old vaguely remembered (?) stuff. Even so, a 3-minute wait for the test would put the total average delay up to something like 5 minutes. Bit hard to impose a 5-minute block on every car in a serious traffic stream.
        
        Working from old (unreliable?) memory again, I think there was something about the tests being applied to people who showed signs of impairment …
        
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        March 3, 2023 2:25pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Fairly good evidence (reaction/cognitive tests) that one is not the full quid up to 24 hours after smoking dope.
    
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    March 3, 2023 9:05pm
- JamesP
  
  Kits which meet the specifications of the legislation apparently don’t exist.
  
  You might think this would be something you’d check. But Labour have never been strong on delivery.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:45pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Yes and the Brits, watched them administer one on a episode of some programme within the last week. The guy was hammered, tested negative for alcohol so they did a roadside drug test on him that detected cocaine. Back to the station for a blood test for him. But obviously they aren’t good enough for our Police. I think they might be scared of what they find.
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:49pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    If he passed a breath test and hadn’t been visibly impaired they would have just waved him on.
    
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    March 3, 2023 1:00pm
Maggie Pie

And see where our Minister-for-Maori-Affairs Kelvin Davis was guest speaker at a conference about indigenous people which was attended by abiout 700 public-servants in Oz.

He was introduced by the compare Dan Conifer….. as a “Blackfella from New Zealand”

First thing Kelv told them was that he’s a big fan of ‘Married At First Sight Australia’

(Never thort we’d have a lot in common tbh)

LOL!!

https://nzherald.co.nz/author/audrey-young/
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March 3, 2023 11:52am
- Frank the tank
  
  You start with a “voice” and end in a Kelvin.
  
  Don’t do it Australia
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:10pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Well, of course they introduced Kelvin as a Blackfella. Because it’s not immediately obvious.
  
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  March 3, 2023 4:46pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  “First thing Kelv told them was that he’s a big fan of ‘Married At First Sight Australia’”
  
  An addictive show where they find people with some fairly obnoxious psychological/personality issues and match them up with unsuspecting people who are relatively normal. All this to stir up rage and indignation in the audience so they’ll stay glued to find out what outrageous crap is next, so they can be smashed with advertising.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:12pm
thirteenstars

Ben Shapiro interviews Gov. Ron DeSantis in front of a live audience, and among other things they talk about the “don’t say gay” bill and the removal of some of Disney’s legal privileges in the state of Florida, beginning at this point:

https://youtu.be/YY21rKfPcGo?t=2112

Keep in mind the bill prevented the teaching of sexuality–all sexuality–to K-thru-3 children. That’s kindergarten to 3rd grade, or 8-year-olds.

You damn-well know that as soon as DeSantis announces his candidacy for president, he’ll become Public Enemy #1 and the media bias against him will make what they did to Trump look like a dainty Anglican picnic.
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March 3, 2023 12:05pm
- MCōs
  
  One of my granddaughters is six. Her mum was talking to another mum who’d spoken about sex to daughter.
  She told her the boy puts his penis in her vagina. She asked her mum if he gets it back again?
  
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  March 3, 2023 12:35pm
  - riffer
    
    Fair question. Answer could possibly be “yes, but she does often get to keep your balls.”
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:41pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    And in a very abstract way, he never really does.
    
    😉
    
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    March 3, 2023 12:41pm
I remember when

Redclyffe Transfer Station is open for flood-damaged household items, free of charge until further notice.
Warning of considerable queues.
25/09/22: Hawke’s Bay councils to pay $20 million to dig extension as region’s biggest landfill set to be full by 2025:

Could 2023 be the new 2025?
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March 3, 2023 12:33pm
PeeJay

From the WTF files.

Just saw an article on Stuff – Outspoken former health boss Rob Campbell lashes out at ‘constipated’ health system.

Campbell goes on to complain about the bureaucracy stating that ‘duplicated overhead roles were still in place, but there was no reason why they couldn’t be moved immediately’. One peach was “Switch more money to primary care and take the bureaucracy out.”

Where has this guy been hiding for all these years? We need to get him into a role in the health sector where he can wield serious clout – maybe even the chairman position, right at the heart of the system. He knows the solutions – surely he’ll put them in place if he had any power or authority?

What’s that you say? He was at the top and did bugger all?

Awkward! Judging by the comments thus far (90% along the lines of WTF – you were in charge!!), suspect the comments will be closed down sharpish!

Wouldn’t it be nice if just once, we had a good old school journalist who, rather than nodding along with all this garbage, pushed it right back on him and asked him if that meant he’d failed as this happened under his watch?

Instead we get the play-school news folks smiling, nodding and no doubt agreeing it’s all so terribly ‘wacist’!!!
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March 3, 2023 12:47pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Not only that but he’s actually effectively been fired for attacking National’s opposition to Co-Governance which of course would be disastrously bureaucratic and wasteful.
  
  Since he’s an adult, do we still have to apologise for laughing at his hypocracy?
  
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  March 3, 2023 2:31pm
Maggie Pie

Lots of people on talkback to Kerry Woodham saying how concerned they are about 15% GST being added to Uber Eats.

Who pays GST anyway? My partner just claims it all back every couple of months.
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March 3, 2023 12:57pm
- MCōs
  
  I paid GST so you don’t have to.
  
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  March 3, 2023 1:09pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Take it you’re not with one of the Big4 then Cossie?
    
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    March 3, 2023 2:08pm
Chuck Bird

Has anyone else read this crap. Currently most developed nations have fewer births than death. I bet this clown is a Green.

The Conversation: Five big ethical questions to ask yourself before having a baby

I am a PhD candidate at Monash Bioethics Centre, and I research the ethics of procreation in a time of climate change. I’ve found there’s no simple “yes” or “no” answer to whether we should produce more children when Earth is in such dire straits.

People who want to have children are faced with a dilemma. Creating a child who will be responsible for high emissions over their lifetime requires others to stay in poverty (if the planet is to operate within its physical limits). This, it can easily be argued, furthers injustice and inequality.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/the-conversation-five-big-ethical-questions-to-ask-yourself-before-having-a-baby/VBCE6DRPZRBZFI6T3SN2IUWP4I/
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- I remember when
  
  Chuck Bird:
  Perhaps when they are lying in a bed in a care home still waiting for a nurse/carer (because there aren’t any), the answer will come to them.
  
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  March 3, 2023 2:13pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    The future is nearly here.
    https://youtu.be/2dS0aDMQoD4
    
    A lot of people are starting to mutter about how a GTP5,6 or whatever spouting domestic robot might make a better long term domestic companion than another human. The Incel and Cat-Lady communities are obvious markets.
    
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    March 3, 2023 3:06pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  What crap. Climate change policies will keep people in poverty.
  
  Look at Japan and most of Europe. Population decline is a time bomb.
  
  If women took this guy’s advice, Western civilisation would collapse. All we would have left is India, China, Indonesia, and, in 30 years, 2.5 billion people in shit hole countries in Africa, desperate to move to the West.
  
  Here is how to fix universities. Dig out the course books from 1980. Fund all those courses. Disband all the rest and sack the relevant staff. Sorry no more PhDs on cat personality and fat shaming in a time of COVID.
  
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  March 3, 2023 3:44pm
- sirknz
  
  This is a death cult.
  
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  March 3, 2023 4:31pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  We need to give these “special” people a special lefty people economic zone where they can live out the crap they purport to embrace to their heart’s delight, on their own dime.
  
  Then the rest of us can continue to embrace prosperity and innovation.
  
  Of course they want to force their batty social experiments on everyone else using other people’s money.
  
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  March 3, 2023 9:18pm
I remember when

Government consultant Gannin Ormsby’s estranged son avoids jail for dishonesty conviction.

Not the headline there would have been if there was a National connection.
Not a stepson headline?
Estranged? Why the disconnect even if it is the case.
Not son of Cabinet Minister’s husband headline?

Almost misinformation/disinformation?
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March 3, 2023 2:04pm
Maggie Pie

OMG!! What would ‘Bishop Brian’ think of this?

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1630904251936575488
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March 3, 2023 2:06pm
- Ghost
  
  He’d be proud of his wife for doing it
  
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  March 3, 2023 2:09pm
krazykiwi

“What do we want??????”

“Another day off school”

“When do we want it????”

“Now. And Monday. And Tuesday”

Climate Change pawns/child-soldiers along Lambton Quay just now.
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March 3, 2023 2:56pm
Ghost

Sad, cry cry, poor boy racers…..

Terrifying footage has emerged of two tractors chasing down people and their cars during a burnout event in Palmerston North that police say could have had a “devastating outcome”.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/03/video-terrifying-footage-shows-tractors-chasing-down-boy-racers-bystanders-during-palmerston-north-burnout-event.html
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March 3, 2023 3:18pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  What happens when people reach breaking point because the Police won’t do anything. Quelle surprise.
  
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  March 3, 2023 3:32pm
  - sirknz
    
    Those people get arrested and brought before the courts because it is less hassle for the police than dealing with actual problems they caused by not dealing with the problem early on.
    
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    March 3, 2023 4:24pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Sure beats anything I’ve seen posted on twitter from the Monsta-Truck event!
  Really got our moneys worth from that action 😀
  
  And good on the boys in the tractors…those little scrotes need dealing to.
  We’ve got some arsehat on a noisey motobike that roars up the Avenue most nights about 8. It’s got my partner thinking now of bringing the boat tractor home from the beach.
  
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  March 3, 2023 4:03pm
Widogast Corwin

What exactly is “climate justice” I wonder?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300820466/school-strike-4-climate-live-students-across-new-zealand-march

Maybe it means charging farmers to pay for E-bike subsidies for socialists who live in urban Wellington.

You can have such fun with these folk.

“What do you want?”

Activist: “Ban fossil fuel exploration”

“OK well that will mean the price of petrol will sky-rocket. Last time that happened the Government panicked and cut excise.”

“It would also increase the price of fertiliser globally, and cause massive food shortages”

Activist: “What does fossil fuel have to do with fertiliser?”

“Fertiliser is made from natural gas”

Activist head explodes.
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March 3, 2023 3:37pm
sirknz

Does anyone know how they can claim to have 117,000 intersex people in NZ before the census when they state that they don’t know how many there are?

https://archive.fo/fbcil [$tuff]

That figure also means that just over 2% of the population are intersex, which seems quite high given other estimates overseas put the population at almost a rounding error.

Of course, it could just be about getting more taxpayer money to help people like Rogena with their ‘work’…
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March 3, 2023 4:22pm
- mandk
  
  That person clearly doesn’t know the difference between intersex (biological) and non-binary (social).
  
  Intersex (e.g. xxy) is very rare – perhaps 0.1% of the population. Non-binary (i.e one of the 73 supposed genders) is around 2%.
  
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  March 3, 2023 4:52pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Biological gender dysphoria is 1 in 50,000 xy chromosome-bearing humans, and 1 in 20,000 xx chromosome-bearing humans.
    
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    March 3, 2023 6:50pm
Hugh Jarse

New Zealand tourism will be excited, all those protesting kids and their families now boycotting international flights and only doing domestic travel in their EV’s, no more school study or language trips overseas. No more congestion around schools in the morning with no drop offs by Mummy, public transport will be to the fore with all those kids now taking buses and walking to school which will be great for their health and obesity. //
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March 3, 2023 4:32pm
- JerJer
  
  Yep. Glad they are protesting and hope they keep up their end of the bargain and live a useless boring life where they go nowhere and do nothing. Certainly it will make airfares cheaper for me. Sadly it won’t happen they’re just arm”t enough of these brainwashed losers around. It’s going to be interesting when they get a bit older and they suddenly realise they have spent the last ten years scared to death about the planets natural cycles and their generation will be labelled the weakest and most pathetic generation in human history.
  
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  March 3, 2023 5:45pm
- Ghost
  
  Hmmm, I wonder if any of them will talk to Heather du Plessis-Allan
  
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  March 3, 2023 5:51pm
Ghost

The mayor of College Park, Maryland resigned before he was arrested Thursday on child pornography distribution and possession charges, authorities announced.

The Prince George’s County Police Department said it arrested 47-year-old Patrick Wojahn Thursday morning after it executed a search warrant and seized multiple cell phones, a storage device and a tablet at his College Park home on Tuesday.

USA Today
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March 3, 2023 5:29pm
Chris Nisbet

I guess the communists are patting themselves on the back tonight after watching all those indoctrinated kids waving their placards today.
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March 3, 2023 7:05pm
Swifty

Has Labour [Mod – tone it down please] Rob Campbell?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rob-campbell-blatant-hypocrisy-of-public-service-commissioner-should-be-called-out/ZMVP7TQXXRBPDDO2SRI2OSPY2Q/

Sure looks like it.
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March 3, 2023 8:11pm
Ghost

And the government won’t care…

Thirty councils around Aotearoa New Zealand opposing the Three Waters reforms are calling on the Government to stop the Water Services Bill proceeding until after October’s general election.

Stuff
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