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January 19, 2023 2:23pm by David Farrar

On Patreon: Why Jacinda resigned

I analyse on my Patreon (sub needed) why Jacinda resigned as Prime Minister.

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Homas

Jacinda Ardern confirms she is moving to New Plymouth?
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January 19, 2023 2:30pm
Fentex

I expect exactly what she said; Doesn’t have the energy for what’s clearly going to be a tough fight – with I assumme the unstated proviso that she prefers to go out ‘on top’,rather than wait until there’s no other option – whenever that might be.
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January 19, 2023 2:39pm
- Matt Long
  
  She didn’t want the job in the beginning, it probably felt great while all the school girls like Wilson and Jones were fawning all over her and having selfies, now that most of the nation can’t stand sight or sound of her, why would she do the hard yards?
  
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  January 19, 2023 3:05pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Lange, Key, Ardern, all in it to feed their egos with the adulation of the crowds, couldn’t stand not to be idolised and quit early.
    
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    January 19, 2023 3:07pm
    - RoboRob
      
      Key was still very popular when he left. He, and many others, felt National was well placed for an unusal 4th term. I dont think his resignation was about his ego.
      
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      January 19, 2023 3:15pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It’s funny, Ardern used the exact words Key used, the tanks empty, god she can’t even come up with her own words ffs
        
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        January 19, 2023 6:25pm
      - cmm
        
        GtG: The real difference is that Cindy’s tank was empty in 2017. Now it’s bone dry.
        
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        January 20, 2023 7:35am
All_on_Red

Meh, she cant stand the fact that a large section of NZ now know she is useless and are angry about what that uselessness has lead us too.
In other words, her ego cant cope so its overseas she goes with NZ far far away and out of mind.
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January 19, 2023 2:49pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Is that a summary of DPF’s Patreon? If so, thanks very much.
  
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  January 19, 2023 2:53pm
  - Biscuit
    
    mike, can you imagine the ‘Woe is me!’ synposis that Simon Wilson is probably penning as we talk!
    
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    January 19, 2023 2:59pm
    - RoboRob
      
      Mikes probably at a Cafe with Simon now helping him write the ‘story’.
      
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      January 19, 2023 3:16pm
    - WaveyDavey
      
      He’ll be to busy back-tracking from his column yesterday
      
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      January 19, 2023 5:09pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    Patreon.
    
    DPF’s very own paywall …. anyone found a way round it yet? 🙂
    
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    January 19, 2023 3:57pm
    - Aquarius
      
      Moronic frankly
      Just sign up and pay some money
      
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      January 19, 2023 4:26pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Have you signed up? How much are you paying? Is it any good ie better than the free KB?
        
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        December 19, 2022 6:12pm
      - andrewo
        
        Paying them money just encourages them.
        If DPF has some inside info, then it’s worth looking at but if it’s just opinion then it’s like arseholes – everyone has one.
        
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        January 20, 2023 8:08am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Funny the news seem to find a huge amount of support in the streets
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:26pm
  - whostoblame
    
    They couldn’t in her home town of morrinsville though.
    
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    January 19, 2023 7:55pm
  - andrewo
    
    I thought that!
    I wonder how many people they had to ask in order to find a handful of positive responses… LOL
    
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    January 20, 2023 8:11am
Ultima

I wonder if there is a chance that she was pushed? Surely, if there was we would hear it in the media.
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January 19, 2023 2:57pm
- john1234
  
  No chance.
  
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  January 19, 2023 3:07pm
  - Stu2
    
    Correct
    
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    January 19, 2023 3:14pm
  - RoboRob
    
    Agreed. She choose to leave, likely based on the polling results and her perspective career options.
    
    I imaging she will have ‘enough in the tank’ to take the job the UN that will be announced in April.
    
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    January 19, 2023 3:17pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      No one is going to give her a job in the UN. She lacks the brains, education or work ethic and comes from too small a country. Some other woke NZ or international non-governmental will pick her up as a spokesbobblehead
      
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      January 19, 2023 5:01pm
      - AlphaWhiskey
        
        In my (limited) experience of seeing the fiasco that is the UN, that the former PM would fit in quite nicely. She could also be part of the permanent WEF machine, or go back to Tony Blair’s organisation.
        
        In these places, ‘identity’ trumps ‘ability’
        
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        January 19, 2023 5:25pm
  - kowtow
    
    55 million reasons for ‘no chance” , along with their natural adulation of a left wing , ‘progressive’ , she person.
    
    Now let’s not hold our breath waiting for te media pardy to give the Nat treatment to Labour’s upcoming infighting , factionalist , leadership stoush.
    
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    January 19, 2023 3:18pm
- david
  
  I have a virtual chocolate fish to say that she “received a phone call from London”
  
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  January 19, 2023 3:34pm
- spanish_tudor
  
  Someone suggested on the other thread that she might have tried to call a halt to co-governance/Three Waters, the Maori caucus then heavied her, and she decided to go.
  
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  January 19, 2023 4:05pm
  - Stamper
    
    Can you blame her; having to ask Willie Jackson if she can go to the toilet ?
    
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    January 19, 2023 5:03pm
- peterwn
  
  Before Christmas she asked her ministers to re-consider their policies and priorities ready for the start of the new year. Some would have dug toes in and would have been too powerfully placed to yield to Jacinda’s wishes which from her point of view were required if Labour was to win the next election. So she chucked it in. Any replacement leader will either have similar problems or will be so pig headed as to lose votes. Compare with Jacinda’s situation in 2017 where she had complete freedom to mould the election campaign as she considered appropriate to win that election. Jacinda knows perfectly well that the overarching objective of a political party is to get into power and if in power to stay in power. Some senior members of her Government seem to have forgotten this. Yet they would be thinking that her gift of the gab would get Labour over the line.
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:51pm
  - cmm
    
    You really think she’s going to assign homework to the ministers over the holidays?
    
    Naah, the most complicated thing she was asking them before Christmas is who is playing secret Santa.
    
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    January 19, 2023 8:37pm
- Souvlaki
  
  When does Karel get deported….?
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:53pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    Pure conspiracy theory. What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and fact again? About three weeks!
    
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    January 19, 2023 7:15pm
- Prince
  
  Behind the scenes, the polls were dreadful. She wasn’t pushed, but such a move was on the horizon mid-year.
  
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  January 19, 2023 7:12pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I’m just grateful the dreadful woman is gone. Pushed, or a walk out, I don’t care, the commie is gone. Hopefully the decisive racist crap will fall in on itself too. Keep an eye on that Mahuta creature. Or better still, let’s give them all the arse card this year. I’ve had enough.
  
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  January 19, 2023 9:20pm
  - Cassandra
    
    Agreed, Rich, apart from the commie bit – she doesn’t have the brains or the discipline to be a communist.
    
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    January 20, 2023 8:03am
  - andrewo
    
    100%
    
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    January 20, 2023 8:12am
Rusty

Only a couple of weeks ago Jacinda said she was going to fight for Maori issues heading up to the elections.

So why has she now decided to resign?

We can all have our own opinion on why and no I don’t accept her reason that she has run out of energy.

I expect the complete capitulation of the Labour party with probably several members becoming PM and then stepping down one after the other.

October may not even be the date of the elections if things get worse with this lot governing the country.

June or July maybe?
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January 19, 2023 3:15pm
- NoCash
  
  Will the next NZ PM out last a lettuce?
  
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  January 19, 2023 3:35pm
  - AlphaWhiskey
    
    given food inflation, maybe a lettuce would cost more than a PM?
    
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    January 19, 2023 5:27pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahahaha
    
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    January 19, 2023 6:28pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    If it’s Mahuta Liz Truss’s record could be under threat.
    
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    January 19, 2023 7:17pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Nope, Mahuta has the hide of an elephant, literally.
      
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      January 19, 2023 9:56pm
- Stephen Russell
  
  The worse things get the longer they will want to wait until the guillotine descends.
  
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  January 19, 2023 4:40pm
  - Sacha
    
    Well, if I were to inherit the PM role, I’d call a snap election. With such a large section of the population so pissed off, I’d want a mandate (!) from the voters to take it on.
    
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    January 19, 2023 5:01pm
    - AlphaWhiskey
      
      yes, and that would mean that all parties other than ACT would be left with little policy having been communicated
      
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      January 19, 2023 5:28pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        I see Nat/ACT policy as a Sledge Hammer thing ..
        
        “Trust me I know what I’m doing” …..
        
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        January 19, 2023 6:17pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        As I recall, that usually worked out ok for Sledge
        
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        January 19, 2023 6:32pm
    - rockape
      
      Agree, the next months will bring nothing but bad news for Labour and the Greens,
      
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      January 19, 2023 5:40pm
      - septic skeptic
        
        Good news surely for prospective watermelon MPs.
        
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        January 19, 2023 7:18pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Not gunna happen, it’s Labour you are talking about
      
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      January 19, 2023 6:29pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  With Greens, a stroppy sub caucus and any number of possible successor’s who knows what might happen – total implosion could be a real possibility.
  
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  January 19, 2023 5:09pm
- cmm
  
  Who cares what she said. She lies.
  
  A few weeks before the 2017 elections she refused to put her hand up for Party Leader because she wanted to make babies.
  
  How long did that last?
  
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  January 19, 2023 8:39pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  Two days ago on 18 January Jacinda Ardern said this:
  
  https://www.teaomaori.news/no-guarantee-maori-stacked-cabinet-will-continue-ardern
  
  The next day on 19 January she resigned.
  
  I think she got a phone call from Mahutacorp and Wily Willy.
  
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  January 20, 2023 7:03am
kevn

Can anyone tell me anything constructive labour has done in the last 5 years?
I do imagine how it would be if they had just done nothing, NZ would be 100 billion dollars better off.
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January 19, 2023 3:44pm
- dubya
  
  Reinvigorated the ACT party?
  
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  January 19, 2023 4:29pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Gone by the news, everything is rosy and rainbows
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:30pm
- rouppe
  
  The stuff commenters are repeating the 3.3% “unemployed” figure (ie the survey results), 2% economic growth.
  
  Ignoring the rest
  
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  January 19, 2023 9:06pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I was going to say twilight golf for cons, but Labour already did that. KiwiBuild, no, the economy, no, “child poverty”, no, ummm, turn Rotorua into a gang infested shit hole! Yes, there’s a score.
  
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  January 19, 2023 9:25pm
Rumblestrip

DPF mentions some poll results that are due to be released tomorrow, which will hit a notably bad milestone for Ardern personally.
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January 19, 2023 4:01pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hmmm
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:30pm
  - rockape
    
    The taxpayers union have said their poll is out tomorrow and that it isn’t good news for Jacinda personally. A few beers down the Sprig tomorrow !
    
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    January 19, 2023 7:17pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Have a pint on me mate 🙂
      
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      January 19, 2023 9:59pm
Alan Wilkinson

Her first term was school girl emoting and mere incomptence. Her second term was utterly inexcusable.

Go, just go, Jacinda. We don’t care why. We just need to end your destruction of our country.
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January 19, 2023 4:07pm
- Inandout
  
  AW, I suspect many have forgotten the first term and the increase in the homeless, multitudes of working parties and a virtual economic standstill. Had the plague not saved her she would have been ousted in 2020.
  
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  January 19, 2023 4:42pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Youth adjacent thank you
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:31pm
Tasman devil

She could audition for the Muppet Show, of form a working group.
We need to have that conversation:
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January 19, 2023 4:44pm
- AlphaWhiskey
  
  wasn’t that the last 4-years?
  
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  January 19, 2023 5:29pm
slightlyrighty

Has the Maori Caucus flexed it’s muscle?
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January 19, 2023 4:58pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I bet the leader will be Māori, I am picking it will be Allen
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:33pm
  - Nigel
    
    That would make for a potentially close election.
    
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    January 19, 2023 7:59pm
- rouppe
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/jacinda-ardern-quits-as-prime-minister-nationals-christopher-luxons-message-of-thanks/VAYGCLROC5BDTL2SAPW6JLPUSM/
  
  “Jackson said the Māori and Pacific caucuses would be meeting together, and he felt there could be a “number” of MPs who put their names forward”
  
  Very inclusive, the white caucus members don’t get to discuss it
  
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  January 19, 2023 8:56pm
- Rich Prick
  
  The Maori Caucus will be put back in its box later this year. Just keep an eye on MahutaCorp in the meantime. The racist grift will step up a gear or two in the short time they have,
  
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  January 19, 2023 10:03pm
Dougal10

I believe she has left because the overseas brand is becoming toxic , the world is taking the piss out of the podium of truth and 2 classes of people stuff . Cindy has never cared what we think of her its always been about global branding ,beginning right from the comrades comrades speech.
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January 19, 2023 5:05pm
Rex

Why has Robertson ruled himself out so early? Obviously this has been discussed prior to the announcement. To make way for the Maori faction? Who knows.
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January 19, 2023 5:11pm
- Nigel
  
  That was indeed fascinating.
  He knows it’s an unmanageable mess and they need to get thumped in the election to realize it ?.
  
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  January 19, 2023 5:33pm
- Colville
  
  The Fat Controller dosent want the poisoned chalice.
  He will knife the loser and be LOTO in ’24 and that will satisfy his vanity.
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:18pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    No it won’t. That man is the most vainglorious politician in parliament now that his good self Shane Jones has been fired by the voters.
    
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    January 19, 2023 8:38pm
- Ian Boag
  
  He looked at Collins. She became leader on her third try as “the last person standing”. Worked really well for her ……
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:20pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He knows he is toxic too
  
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  January 19, 2023 6:34pm
- cmm
  
  I would have thought Robbo would have jumped at the opportunity to get Prime Minister on his wiki page.
  
  Perhaps he was hoping for a shorter time in the position. Maybe 2 months. 8 or 9 months sounds like a hell of a lot of work.
  
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  January 19, 2023 8:42pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Now that Cindy has squatted over the well, I doubt even Robertson wants to draw up what’s left. No, can’t see him leading, Andrew Little is actually their least polarising candidate. Yeah, I know, even his mother won’t vote for him, but hey, Labour types are so lovable.
    
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    January 19, 2023 10:08pm
- rockape
  
  Maybe he won’t stand as an MP in the election,especially if he isn’t leader. I truly think of rats and sinking ships !
  
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  January 19, 2023 9:35pm
rockape

Is this the future for NZ politics. From right to left !
ACT National, NZ First, Maori Labour, Greens. 5 main parties over 5% and No, Labour doesntfigureotherthantheirMaori MPs.
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January 19, 2023 5:38pm
- Prince
  
  emember Peters said he couldn’t work with Ardern (if you believe that).
  Anyway he’s back on side with Labour/Greens/TPM/NZF.
  
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  January 19, 2023 7:16pm
  - rockape
    
    He says he is not . But I do have difficulty believing anything that charlatan says.
    
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    January 19, 2023 9:33pm
  - KiwiSapper
    
    IF I remember correctly, he was quoted as saying, “…. he couldn’t work with that Labour lot.”
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    As from October, following resignations, loss of seat and retirement of Labour MP’s, Winnie will declare that it is a different lot and bingo, another unholy coalition is spawned.
    
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    January 20, 2023 10:44am
Taieri

Who is Jacinda Ardern? Anyone important?
Anyone I should know?
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January 19, 2023 6:03pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Today’s headlines are tomorrows fish and chip wrappers 🤣🤣🤣
  
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  January 19, 2023 7:23pm
  - Deane Jessep
    
    Comment of the day!
    
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    January 19, 2023 11:25pm
surfing

She sees the writing on the wall, losing the election. Who wants to put so much energy into a loss.

Plus, I don’t think she has the personality to stand up to the maori faction … no surprise that maori are all heaping praise onto her. Because, she has enrichened the Maori elite more than any other PM.

She is rather thin skinned too, the abuse would have got to her.
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January 19, 2023 7:21pm
Grizz

Question. Does Labour have a better chance with another leader? Do they have someone less toxic? Can the new leader alter the perception of 3 waters and he pua pua back in their favour or even drop that direction?
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January 19, 2023 7:46pm
- EverlastingFire
  
  Labour will be sweeping 3 Waters and Hepuapua under the rug as far as possible this election year.
  
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  January 19, 2023 8:18pm
solarsailer

Maybe not pushed, but leaned on and given the “no one’s bigger than the party” conversation. Her body language conveyed disappointment, rather than relief, as if the decision was not hers.
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January 19, 2023 8:20pm
maggiemay

In wonder what the polling was showing in her own electorate. Ramraids and housing intensification would not have helped.
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January 19, 2023 8:52pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  I don’t know about her electorate, but in an unofficial Poll of the media seeking comment from Morrinsville yesterday, not a single Morrinsvillian was upset or saddened that she was going. In fact they were quite pleased at the news.
  
  One started laughing out loud.
  
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  January 20, 2023 7:20am
Ghost

I don’t think it was anywhere what Key had to put up with, and she brought a lot of it on herself by claiming to be the source of truth and not listening to prepared to talk to anyone that disagreed with her. She brought separatist policies into the country. She stole the council owned assets. It will take years for people to come to terms with what she did to the country

‘Jacinda has faced a level of hatred and vitriol which in my experience is unprecedented’
Former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark has issued a statement on Ardern’s shock resignation today.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300787810/live-she-faced-unprecedented-hatred-and-vitriol-helen-clark-on-arderns-resignation
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January 19, 2023 9:04pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Yep, don’t recall any rappers singing about wanting to rape Neve. When that happened to the Keys, my recollection was that Cindy said she liked his music. I could be wrong, if so I withdraw and apologize.
  
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  January 20, 2023 1:52am
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  So when other people are angry and have a negative opinion at the way a Prime Minister has run their country into the ground, it’s vitriol and hate. Okaaaaaaay.
  
  Helen Clark can take a running jump, as if anyone cares what she thinks.
  
  The fact that she has to put out a statement defending another PM is telling. Perhaps if said PM hadn’t fucked over the country so incompetently she’d be going out on high on a stream of adulation and being feted.
  
  FFS.
  
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  January 20, 2023 7:28am
rockape

We know a few Labour MPs and ministers are not standing at the next election. This is the cherry on top and I wonder if we will see more not stand. I am thinking Robertson, Nash Damien O Connor. Maybe too a few back benchers who know their fate is sealed after this resignation. Oh dear, poor Labour !
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January 19, 2023 9:31pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Maybe a good thing. The reality is that sometime down the track this Mob will get back in again. We have to hope they are then stocked with modern versions of Douglas, Prebble and Bassett – not lefty Academics and union hacks!
  
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  January 20, 2023 1:49am
freemark

Maybe the bought MSM realize that they can no longer avoid asking her some tough questions. Thomas Cranmer’s substack on the official advice regarding mandates & further jabs for children?
Disclosure: I have 2 teen daughters who seem to have been almost constantly sick with something since taking their “2 shots for summer”
They’ve also been convinced that I’m just a conspiracy theorist full of shit.
Anger & rage at Ardern etc isn’t going away just because she chickened out…
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January 19, 2023 9:50pm
surfing

Jordan Peterson criticised Ardern (and others) on twitter, and the Canadian medical authorities have ordered him to under-go re-education or lose his psychology practising registration.

A bit off topic other than Ardern is in the news today and she is one of those he criticised.

Talk about being forced to comply with ‘group think’ and not to speak against woke orthodoxy!

https://www.thecollegefix.com/will-not-comply-jordan-peterson-rejects-mandatory-social-media-retraining/
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January 19, 2023 9:52pm
rockape

I know this is from way outfield. But consider this scenario.
Robertson the sacrificial lamb till the election. Then he resigns.
Szaboe stands in Jacinda,s seat and takes over from Robertson post the election decimation of Labour.
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January 19, 2023 10:35pm
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A combination of bad polling, going from people fawning for selfies to raucus protests wherever she went and no stomach for the real hard work of policies of substance born from compromise and at least some collaboration with affected parties. Plus, based on what is trickling out in the US and UK re. Covid responses and negative impacts of lockdowns and vaccination policies, much of what Ardern was a global C19 picture child for will come back to haunt her and she’s getting out of what will become an increasingly hostile firing line.
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January 20, 2023 6:23am
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  Pretty much this KIA, But apparently the real reason is that people are being mean because she’s a woman.
  
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  January 20, 2023 7:09am
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  Yup, death by a thousand cuts. Why try to identify which was the deepest?
  
  The recent news of the worst inflation on food in over 30 years would have added to the pile. Her core voters will be acutely sensitive to grocery prices and that frustration is going to come out.
  
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  January 20, 2023 7:50am
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I get the energy thing, after all she is getting fairly long in the tooth.
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