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Yvette

Māori education system to be revamped
9 February 2022
Work will start soon towards a revamp of Māori education, aimed at connecting more tamariki with their language and culture, the government says.
… “In particular, Kaupapa Māori education follows a different pathway from the English medium education system, yet for too many years we have used the technique of comparison to find ways to fit Kaupapa Māori education into this system,” Davis said.
His announcement comes after the country’s 63 Kura Kaupapa laid a claim with the Waitangi Tribunal, arguing they have been disadvantaged by years of underfunding and sidelining by the Crown.
They have called for a separate Māori education authority, which Davis has ruled out.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/461194/maori-education-system-to-be-revamped

New independent Māori education entity needed – report
25 January 2023
Māori must have more agency and authority over its future if the government wants to increase the number of tamariki in kaupapa Māori education, a new report says.
… “Te Pae Roa believes that undertaking this work alongside the ministry will put us all in a better position to establish an independent entity for kaupapa Māori education in the future.
Last year, Davis ruled out a separate Māori education authority.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/483100/new-independent-maori-education-entity-needed-report

So Kelvin Davis ruled out a separate Māori education authority, but Te Pae Roa recommends a new independent Māori education entity anyway.
Which of these two is not educated in the needs of Maori education.

But as Sean Plunket has said –
Chris Hopkins is the new front man and he has given some indications that Labour will try in the next nine months to rebrand itself, as not so friendly to Maori, not so interested in the Treaty of Waitangi not so interested in co-governance, not so interested in merging the state broadcasters, not so interested in Three Waters.

■ However will co-governance, Maori health, 3 Waters and a new independent Māori education entity languish for nine months, be silently worked on, or be an unemphasised dead cert policy if perchance Labour is re-elected?
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January 26, 2023 8:00am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Step 1: figure out how to get them to turn up on a regular basis.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:51am
  - rockape
    
    Has PI and Maori truancy gone up since they stopped serving coke and pies in the tuck shop?
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:33pm
    - Paulus
      
      Is PI Truancy as great as Maori Truancy ?
      I always thought that PI attendence was far greater than Maori.
      Mind you what is a Maori, whereas PI can identify by nationality.?
      Can’t find figures anywhere.
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:21pm
- rouppe
  
  All they need is Partnership Schools back, which can provide a more kaupapa focused environment while still having to meet English, Maths and Science standards.
  
  Maybe they could talk to Alwyn on ways to make it work.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:06am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Could be – however there were just 12 of them and not all of them were lead by someone as compeyent as Alwyn provided.
    
    Might be worth another go, but as far as the history is concerned I think the sample size is a bit small …
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:36am
- Local Miller
  
  This “Independent Maori Education Authority” expectation grinds my gears.
  1) There are many “independent” groups, like Christians, who have taken advantage of the Special Character classification and run schools that fit their world view and education style better than state schools. Why don’t the Maori with all their treaty settlement money open some Maori Special Character Schools?
  2) Why did the left, including as far as I could see the Maori, rail against the Charter School system when they could have taken advantage of this to set up Maori aligned schools? And it would have been cheaper than Special Character Schools that tend to have a smaller contribution from government (relative to teacher/student numbers).
  As far as I can see there is no excuse other than: “We want someone else to do this for us”.
  It also looks like the motivation is largely: “we want the control and the money”.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:10am
  - Caine9
    
    The really stupid thing about the Charter Schools, is that Maori benefitted more than anyone.
    Those that attended one did disproportionately better than the average.
    Another Comrade Ardern success…..
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:27am
  - Steve Todd
    
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    I know you’re an immigrant, but you’ve been here long enough to know that it is not “why don’t the Maori [this]”, or “as far as I could see the Maori, [that].”
    
    The word “the” is both incorrect usage and superfluous, not to mention a not-so-subtle put-down of Māori, generally.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:48am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Thank you Steve, the Kiwiblog pedant. 🙂
      
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      January 26, 2023 11:46am
      - Biscuit
        
        I’d suggest Steve never visits Ukraine, heh.
        
        They and this was even before Mr Putin’s attempt to annex their country – utterly DETEST folk who call their country ‘The Ukraine’…
        
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        January 26, 2023 2:16pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Steve – not sure if that’s correct. I’ve seen it used with other races regularly. “The Irish have a good rugby team.” – “The English soccer team are shit.”
      
      I could be wrong, I’m sure you’ll correct me and explain the reason why I’m wrong.
      
      Anyway you’d better take it up with Wikipedia too.
      
      The Māori (/ˈmaʊri/,[6] Māori: [ˈmaːɔɾi] (listen)) are the indigenous Polynesian people of mainland New Zealand (Aotearoa).
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori_people
      
      To be fair, it all sounds fairly pedantic. Racist as fuck clearly though. //
      
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      January 26, 2023 11:48am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        Interestingly there are letters written by Maori, in English, in the 19th century that talk about ‘Maoris’. That stood out to me. I bet I will find them also say ‘the Maori’.
        And I am taken aback a bit in modern times when I hear Maori in front of me say ‘Bloody Maoris!’ (or Horis, I heard even more recently, in relation to early morning punch-ups).
        Next time I will correct my Maori friends, shake my finger and state, “No, Bloody Maori!’.
        Point is, policing others is lame. Now there are even regional ways of writing around whether there are macrons or not, or even double letters like Tuui or paa site. And since this is the Maori/Maori themselves doing this, I am not one to correct them any more than a Taranaki local will assure me it is “Pari’aka”, and not PariHaka.
        Correcting another’s grammar specifically in English about how to talk about Maori is also pretty tenuous given the variety of historical precedence. Not sure what the point is, in any case.
        
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        January 26, 2023 12:53pm
    - David George
      
      Where did you get that idea Steve?
      It’s quite in order, not “incorrect”, as you claim, to use English syntax and grammar as well as the pluralising and possessive “s” in an English text. “The Maori”, “the Maoris” and the “Maori’s” are all perfectly correct. Certainly preferable to the clumsy workaround or ambiguity involved in arbitrarily restricting yourself to “Maori” for all cases.
      If you’re OK with the wholesale appropriation and butchering of English words into what is claimed to be Maori it’s pretty hypocritical to get all sanctimonious about a minor grammatic adaption to fit the norms of the English language. No?
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:38pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        And yet Caine9, and Don Beckett, and Fuzzysnuggleduck, and Ehlana, and Paulus, didn’t say “the / The Maori” in their (nearby) comments. Why not? Because they instinctively know it is incorrect usage – it just wouldn’t have sounded right.
        
        We no longer say, “the Springboks are playing the NZ Maoris on Saturday.” We say, “the Springboks are playing NZ Māori on Saturday.” It is no longer “in order” to pluralise Māori words with an ‘s’.
        
        Context is relevant. I was clearly responding to Local Miller’s mid-sentence references to “the Maori” [nothing else], not to a sentence beginning, say, “The Māori world view is clearly different to that of non-Māori.” (In this regard, it would be acceptable to say, “It is very clear that the Māori world view is different to that of non-Māori.”)
        
        It is not correct to say, as Local Miller did, “Why don’t the Maori with all their treaty settlement money […]” [and] “Why did the left, including as far as I could see the Maori, rail against the Charter School system […].” However, it would have been correct if he had said, for example, “[…] the Maori people […]”, or “[…] the Maori tribal elite […]”, or “[…] the Maori caucus […]”.
        
        (I wonder if Local Miller would have made references to “the Zulu” [nothing else] in similarly-worded sentences. I suspect not.)
        
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        January 26, 2023 4:17pm
  - Paulus
    
    Local Miller
    Maori will do it all if you pay first.
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:22pm
- Ehlana
  
  “Kaupapa Māori education follows a different pathway from the English medium education system.” I wonder what “follows a different pathway” means in practice?
  
  I am all for devolving decision making down to the lowest level practical, which would allow for parents in a community to decide on the kind of schools they want for their children.
  
  But what we seem to constantly hear is demands for a top-level separate body for Maori – in health, education, etc. This, it seems to me, risks creating a separatist bureaucracy which will be more interested in justifying its existence and building itself up than in delivering on the ground services.
  
  It seems to have escaped these activists that demanding a separate system for Maori automatically alienates the 84% non-Maori, plus probably the majority of the remaining 16% who are of mixed heritage and do not want this classification and separation.
  
  On the other hand, campaigning for more choice for children/parents/patients etc. by creating a system that allows for a Maori health centre, or a Buddhist school or any other variation with sufficient support, could actually get the support of the whole community – and be far more likely to be and stay implemented.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:12am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Maori already have their own schools – there are a number of Full Immersion schools around where they do all the teaching and on campus talk in Te Reo Maori.
    What more do they want ? Surely these Full Immersion schools are like their own Maori private schools, funded by the govt. – I assume at the normal funding allocation.
    Maybe they could get Maori schools as charter schools – they would be in full control. No need for a completely separate system – it IS a separate system under the Govt. Dept. of Ed. uymbrella.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:32am
    - Scott
      
      Can I just say it? The truth is that Maori culture is a basic tribal culture. Build on pagan worship of animist gods it’s high point was a class of warriors that engaged in constant warfare. Violence was endemic up to and including brutal slavery and cannibalism. It had no written language and no wheel. No understanding of any science.
      
      Western civilisation is far far superior. And everyone agrees with me. Because no one wants to go back to constant tribal warfare and living in a mud hut.
      
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      January 26, 2023 10:44am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        living in a mud hut.
        
        Maori didn’t live in mud huts…
        
        Their houses/whare were constructed from plant materials (timber, bark, tree-ferns, rushes).
        
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        January 26, 2023 11:11am
      - Steve Todd
        
        You have pointed that out before, Maggy, and I’m pretty sure it was to Scott, too. The fact that he has ignored your previous correction says much about him, and his general attitude towards Māori.
        
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        January 26, 2023 11:31am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        minor quibble, not sure that pre-contact Maori got to the Wattle and Daub stage of technological advancement, so the huts were not quite up to mud standard…
        
        Given the climate, it’s a bit surprising.
        
        Resource scarcity is a bastard, obtaining sufficient protein and not getting enslaved must have occupied a fair bit of the minds of the great and good.
        
        Imagine the wealth and security a European sailing vessel represented in the 1790s!
        
        Let alone what signing up for Queen Wiktoria meant in 1840! A promise of reliable food, the end of warfare, access to weapons and technology, education, written language, protection etc etc …. all in exchange for selling settlers land owned by those arseholes from the Iwi down the way!
        
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        January 26, 2023 11:46am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Don’t forget Scott many would consider you a pagan worshiper. Your view of western culture seems to ignore the war in Ukraine. How could that be “far far superior” than anything?
        
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        January 26, 2023 12:50pm
      - Scott
        
        Maggy and Steve – thanks for your comments. I am using the term “mud hut” as a shorthand term for a primitive dwelling with an earth floor and no windows and no nails used in its construction. It may be constructed from plant materials with mud used to hold it in place? Or there may be no mud at all.
        
        But the point is a primitive dwelling of a tribal society that is vastly inferior to the dwellings we have today and in which 99% of New Zealanders would not choose to dwell.
        
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        January 26, 2023 1:46pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Imagine the first time of eating a tomato or an apple! Such gifts were brought by the pakehas!
        
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        January 26, 2023 7:41pm
  - Swifty
    
    Excellent points Ehlana.
    
    Not to mention all the extra burden on the pockets of New Zealand families to pay for all this duplication.
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:43am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Maori education revamped? Surely to be revamped, it had to exist in the first place?
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:12pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Every culture has its own form of education, your nearest ancestors lived in caves etching out pictures in stone. However some didn’t make the cross over from being apes. (wink.)
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:52pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Lol Brian, expertly commenting on something completely out of context. Often the response of those that don’t have an argument.
      
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      January 26, 2023 2:30pm
Colville

From Stuff…

“” A NowNext Political survey of more than 25,000 Stuff readers taken last week following Ardern’s resignation saw National at 39% when it came to the party respondents said they would vote for. Labour was at 25%, ACT on 16%, the Green Party at 10%, and Te Pāti Māori at 1%.””

55/91=60.4%. 122 MPs total so 74 for National /ACT?

and that is from the so left its horizontal Stuff!
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January 26, 2023 8:03am
- jon
  
  This results of this poll are actually not that much different to the Roy Morgan poll for Dec, released this week. Interesting indeed!
  
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  January 26, 2023 1:04pm
  - Colville
    
    The December RM has Nat/ACT at 65 seats …. after Hipkins announced the margin stretches out by another (say) 7 to 72 seats.
    
    That is a trend I like!!
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:35pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hipkins is seen by the left and the vulgar media to be doing very well , they have today done another poll of who did you vote for last election, who would you vote for next election , and which politician do you think can fix inflation, they must really think Labour have received a lift, so much for Ardern being so popular, the poll is still up on stuff politics, but it’s well down the second part of the page now.
  
  Something else i picked up on TV tonight, they asked Jessica about his day, she said oh he met business, blah blah blah, then they asked her what about people in public what did they say, she almost choked and said he is not really seen as a star because he is no wear near as popular as Ardern, she said he is seen as boring.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:44pm
kiwikidsnz

Chris Trotter explains the games being played this year.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/01/26/after-ratana/
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January 26, 2023 8:05am
Yvette

While I do try to comment here on kiwiblog in a way that hopefully displays some intelligence, I do freely and transparently admit to watching the gormless dynamics of SHORTLAND STREET for some light entertainment, as opposed to watching the gormless dynamics of endless Mexican cartel movies on Netflix,

So I would just note now for non-viewers, that with Shortland Street Hospital itself was closed by fire damage wrought upon it in the cliff-hanger episode ending last year’s season, but many Shorty staff are working in St Catherine’s where conditions are chaotic ugly 19th century bedlam with most of resident staff being arrogant picks without an ounce of manaaki – kindness or the reciprocity of goodwill – whanaunga, mahi tahi and kotahitanga nor Prime Ministerial love or wellbeing among them

– all of which perhaps makes Andrew Little an absolute and utter maroon for ever commissioning a nurse recruiting campaign to be run within SHORTLAND STREET episodes a Little while back.
Although it did tend to add to the ridiculous aspects of the show.
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January 26, 2023 8:07am
- Hollyfield
  
  It’s over a decade since I watched Shortland Street. (But I do not hold other people’s guilty pleasures against them)
  
  Isn’t St Catherine’s a private hospital and Shortland Street public? So therefore the whole storyline is “private bad, public good” and promotional for our new centralised one health authority? (well, two authorities since we need them for different races of course)
  
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  January 26, 2023 6:17pm
Matt Long

The people who lecture us on misogyny and hate speech are remarkably self aware. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tvnz-breakfast-hosts-shooting-trump-doll-sparks-outrage-network-apologises/U2LDB5IQ45AFHP72FFWFDTFLWY/
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January 26, 2023 8:10am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I reckon all this criticism of breakfast is just blatant homophobia. That poor, sweet. self-aware cutie Matty McLean… it’s just an outrage!
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:17am
  - Ruawai
    
    Sweet until he looked down the camera and said “go hard” on Trump with a gun.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:11am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Out of all the numpties over the year Matty was the one i used to think was a bit of fun, sadly he came out of the cupboard, i don’t really watch now, but i still think he is probably a bit of normal guy, not one of these i am better than you like Tame.
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:47pm
- Swifty
  
  Have the presenters apologised personally on air for letting their prejudices and biases show through?
  
  That apology was as weak as piss.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:19am
  - graham
    
    It was a classic “non-apology” – the sort of apology you dish out when you don’t think you did anything wrong, but just to placate those tiresome whingers we’ll throw out some weasel words.
    
    “We apologise if this segment upset any of our viewers” … IE we’re not at all sorry we did it, but hey if you got upset by it, well *hugs*.
    
    And my, did they down-play it as much as they could. … it was intended to be a fun segment … meh, maybe we should have given “further consideration” to the “perception created” … it was intended to be a “light-hearted look” at the popular Bug A Salt …
    
    Not so much an apology as an exercise in taking as little responsibility as possible, and demonstrating that TVNZ really couldn’t care less about their Breakfast hosts firing a fake gun at a doll of Donald Trump.
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:51am
- Scott
  
  Two things stand out for me about the shooting of the Trump doll.
  Firstly the double standard. They would never dream of doing this to an Obama doll. NZers, conditioned by the media, are taught to love Democrat presidents like Obama and Clinton and hate Republican presidents like Reagan, Bush and Trump.
  
  Secondly it shows to me the utter foolishness and lack of wisdom of our liberal elites. Under Trump the USA was very prosperous, unemployment was down, real wages were rising and energy was abundant. The southern border was secure, Trump started no new wars, destroyed ISIS and reigned in North Korea.
  
  But because he wasn’t a globalist the elites in NZ love to hate him. They love style instead of substance. Our liiberal elites have no clue.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:25am
  - David Lenny
    
    Dear Scott
    
    Jong-un Kim reigns in North Korea. Trump has never reigned in North Korea.
    
    Yrs truly
    Dave Lenny @pedantsareus.com
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:00pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Trump never rained in N.Korea either.
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:19pm
  - Scott
    
    Correction – “reined” in North Korea. My apologies for the error. 🙂
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:48pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      What’s a loose ‘G’ between friends, Scott. 🙂
      
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      January 26, 2023 3:36pm
- cmm
  
  Imagine if it had been an Obama doll. A vague apology would not be enough.
  It would have been:
  * Shut down the breakfast show.
  * Fire a substantial number of staff.
  * Resignation of Minister of Broadcasting.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:41am
- Frank the tank
  
  Silly. It’s Ok if the left do it.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:45am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    It’s always different when the left do it.
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:48am
- graham
  
  David Seymour nailed it succinctly:
  
  “Trump’s not my favourite politician either, but is this the same TVNZ that’s been complaining about the abuse of politicians for the last week?”
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:53am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I wonder which NZX Top 50 companies are going to invite Cindy to join their Board (snigger).
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:12am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Doncha just love the weasel worded apology!
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:20am
- rouppe
  
  We apologise if this segment upset any of our viewers.
  
  Translation: We can’t understand why anyone would find shooting a Trump doll offensive, but OK, soz…
  
  Why can’t they just say: We apologise that this segment upset some of our viewers.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:17am
  - Ehlana
    
    Or, we apologise for this segment. It was clearly inappropriate, especially in light of our recent comments on the abuse of politicians. Whether or not we personally like or support Mr Trump, he was the elected Head of State of another country and we should have respected that office.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:37pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  And then they wonder why no one watches the shit they produce.
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:18pm
Spam

Am I reading this right?

As Chris Hipkins enters day two of his prime ministership, new polling data suggests his taking of the 9th floor Beehive office could revive Labour’s electoral fortunes against a resurgent centre-right bloc of National and ACT.

Oh – you’ve hooked me! The poll must have shown that Hipkins has triggered a bump in labour support!

According to a Horizon Research Poll obtained by Stuff, Hipkins’ elevation to prime minister could sway the vote of 480,000 people, or 12% of New Zealanders.

Hmm. Sway. Could be up or down. Must be up, given what they said before, right?

Those polled were asked if a change of prime minister would make them more likely or less likely to vote Labour at 2023 election and 12% said it would depend on who the new prime minister was.

Ah! So when it was confirmed as Hipkins, these people said they’d vote Labour. Right? RIGHT?

Overall, 13% would be less likely to vote for Labour with a change of prime minister, while 9% said they would more be more likely to vote for Labour at the next election.

The majority, 58%, said a change in prime minister would make no difference.

What? So 12% say more likely (the entire basis of this ‘game-changer’ article, 13% said less likely (gosh – I always thought that 13% was higher than 12%, but then again I learned my maths back in the 70s, and it has probably changed since then).

Effectively the result suggests that the change of prime ministership creates enough uncertainty to make the election up for grabs.

It really doesn’t.
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January 26, 2023 8:11am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  A Horizon poll obtained by Stuff! For crying out loud!
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:14am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘Horizon Research Poll obtained by Stuff’
  -Snigger
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:15am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Note, it is was not resealrch by URM, the Labour Party pollsters!
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:12am
    - jon
      
      Strange, Talbot Mills havent had a leaked poll since late October, last year!
      
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      January 26, 2023 12:56pm
- Colville
  
  Stuffs own poll has Labour at 25%
  Wipeout after they get to know Chippy!
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:17am
- slightlyrighty
  
  I think the correct term is a “Dead Cat Bounce”
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:18am
- crackle
  
  My favorite part is how they’ve equated 12 percent of the voting population with the total population. I know they’d like to lower the voting age but come on…
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:20am
- Swifty
  
  Stuff you suck.
  
  Badly.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:20am
- Paulus
  
  But with Ardern gone everything is now alright with new boy to lead us to Nirvana.
  That is what the media and Robertson are telling us today.
  Thank goodness I thought that we are still well f….d up.
  However there are still may ill educated and thick people in our Country.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:21am
- Gravelroad
  
  @spam.
  The guy has only been the PM for a day,
  State funded msm has been supporting the Labour government for a lot longer.
  It is possible that some left leaning reporter who has little idea of how to read a political poll, has just drafted up a story about how he/she/they would like it to look.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:21am
  - Swifty
    
    It’s just pathetic gravel.
    
    They just make shit up.
    
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    January 26, 2023 8:23am
  - Prince
    
    The Stuff Article must have been written by the 9th floor, as usual.
    Further down, the (Labour) Horizon Poll found cost of living was the top issue for NZ’ers.
    So next sentence…Hipkins said tackling the cost of living and inflation was the “right and immediate focus” for his Government.
    Well fancy that – no actual policies, just ‘focus’.
    Does Stuff charge for these ads ?
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:09am
    - backster
      
      Maybe a special focus group of teachers, trade Unionist, Jim Bolger, and Maori experts to report back this November needs to be nominated. On the other hand sufficient expertise may be found within the Mahuta family.
      
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      January 26, 2023 11:22am
  - cmm
    
    Perhaps it is a reminder for another $55M.
    
    I wonder, is Hipkins going to get rid of the huge communicashuns staff in the PMO as part of the “refreshing, reprioritising and refocusing”?
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:38am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Curia did an actual poll that indicated the best result for Labour would be Hipkins as PM, and that result was a 14% DROP in support for Labour.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:23am
- Tomtoddy
  
  @Spam. The logic has more holes than a Labour party “Let’s Do This” Policy. Most of Labour’s 2020 new support came because of Jacindamania. Now that bubble is burst and she has gone how can that translate into Labour recovering???
  
  Nah, the media luvvies are still in grief mode, unable to detach from the thrall of the endless fluffy words and promises, fretting whether the cash will still roll in from weary taxpayers and anxious that the spoonfeeding from the ninth floor spinmasters may slow down.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:22am
  - I remember when
    
    February 7th:
    The “Fairy Princess” has left the building.
    
    Does she take the glitter dust with her?
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:07am
    - Flossie
      
      So long as she takes that “bloke” with her. This First Bloke, First Baby nonsense just drove me insane. No other PM has ever flaunted their personal life quite so blatantly as the just departed one.
      
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      January 26, 2023 9:34am
      - Ghost
        
        I don’t think any other prime minister’s partner had a career that would benefit from flaunting it.
        
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        January 26, 2023 9:37am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      IRW – yes, the grim reality of the carnage lying underneath is now being revealed to many for the first time.
      It’s not a pretty sight.
      
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      January 26, 2023 10:18am
- G152
  
  Hipkins was one of the perps who okayed all those laws hes now wanting to change
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:23am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The NZ media descends deeper into to of morass of irrelevance. They really do produce a lot of dribble.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:25am
  - kowtow
    
    They produce outright lies , misinformation and disinformation.
    
    Today’s Whoreald is full ot it.
    
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    January 26, 2023 8:43am
- Biscuit
  
  I read it your way, Spam…
  
  A leftist journalist interviewing his pink keyboard whilst wearing rose-coloured glasses.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:30am
  - Colville
    
    but the point is even with all that bias its still a disaster for the ginger dwarf and his cohort of numpties!
    
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    January 26, 2023 8:55am
- Cassandra
  
  On Newsroom paywalled today only Peter Dunne says that Labour’s electoral mountain is unchanged. I suspect not. Voters swayed by emotion three years ago are still susceptible or is that vulnerable? Chippy is a different proposition from Ardern and National will have to lift its game. One false move………..
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:37am
- cmm
  
  “Hipkins promised on Wednesday to “reprioritise, refresh and refocus””
  
  So he’s saying Cindy was unfocused, prioritising the wrong things and had turned into a limp lettuce leaf on a curled, week old cheese sandwich.
  
  Well he’s not wrong in any of that. The question is whether his sloganeering is any better than Cindy’s.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:46am
  - Lee C
    
    cmm
    
    Is this like Jacinda promising to ‘recalibrate?
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:09am
  - Local Miller
    
    This reminds me of the old CEO handing over to the new CEO, and giving him 3 numbered envelopes. The new CEO asks what they are for and is told that every time things are looking at their worst he must open an envelope, starting with the first.
    Sure enough after a number of months things are looking really bad in the company so he opens #1 and it tells him to blame his predecessor. He calls a news conference, blames all the problems on the old CEO and explains that he’s a new broom working to clean up the mess. Sure enough the company’s fortunes take a turn for the better.
    Some time later things are hitting a new low, and he opens the 2nd envelope, which instructs him to “reorganize”. He puts out a press release and reorganizes the company structure, etc. and sure enough things start getting better again.
    Time passes and once again things are getting dire, so he opens #3. The instructions are simple: “Prepare 3 envelopes”
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:45am
- Frank the tank
  
  C’mon the ejection of Ardern is the beginning of the end for Stuffed.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:47am
- redeye
  
  [Mod – deleted. No need for a comment like that]
  Ardern leaving will almost definitely cause a number of, mostly female voters to be ambivalent about even turning up on election day. I cannot see a similar number of other voters swinging to Chippy for any reason.
  He has said he will focus on the cost of living. What can he do in 8 months, other than admit he was part of the team responsible.
  He has said they’re trying to do too much too soon. So he’s not canceling any of their unpopular policies, just postponing until after the election.
  He’s been in charge of all the major portfolios that are in a significantly worse state than when he started (education, health and police).
  I don’t want to jinx the right but my prediction is for a really disasterous result for Labour.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:49am
  - redeye
    
    With respect mod. In a post about his electability I was simply pointing out he was no Ryan Gosling. It would be helpful if you advise which specifically was so objectionable.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:30am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Gee, a poll completed and analysed within 24 hours of Chippy becoming PM. Polls are usually taken over the course of a week, no?
  
  Either someone knew something ahead of time; or someone is making Stuff up.
  
  I’ll let you decide.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:23am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I expect there will be a small increase in Labours support in the next round of polls. Will be interesting to see Chippies score as prefered PM against Luxon. However with the probablity of further mortgage rate increases and cost of living increases I suspect Labour and Chippies support will drop away.
  If Chippie cant wind back Maorification then the decrease will be greater. The only way I see Labour in with a chance is to repeal all Maorification give relief for low/middle income earners and beneficaries and scrape Student Loans. I dont see them doing all of that.
  However as I keep posting IMHO Winston will decide the next Government unless Nats/ACT can out poll all the other parties on election day.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:29am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, I did that poll, answering that question I said I would change more vote, but I also told them I voted Labour last election, sorry about the white lie, so many will be changing since the last election anyway
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:50am
- cas
  
  Of course if Hipkins with his ‘I’m just like you and I’m not the slightest bit tainted by being in Govt for the past 5 years’ mantra does get anywhere near a win at the election ( and quite a few people turned off by the Queen will come back to Labour), he would probably have to govern with the support of not only the Greens but also the Maori Party and that would be miles scarier than what we’ve got at present. National should keep on reminding the public about that.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:09am
  - H. Upmann
    
    The Maori Party will play a major role in who governs after the next election.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:41am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That was not the question, and the poll was before Hipkins was the pm select.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:51pm
Swifty

Young fellow writes in Stuff how Luxon is wrong on co-governance:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131064324/cogovernance-is-less-controversial-than-christopher-luxon-makes-out

But once again Stuff neglects to mention that, at least until quite recently, the fellow was an organiser for Young Labour – Rainbow Brigade.

Why is that Stuff? Did you know his history but choose to not mention it or did you not know and now just look sloppy and loose?

Either way, a poor show.

As to the article itself – judge for yourself. All I can see are assertions without evidence, faulty logic, baseless claims and a concentration on ambulances at the bottom of cliffs instead of fences at the top.
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January 26, 2023 8:16am
- Inandout
  
  Swifty, this guy works in the Treaty Industry. Say no more.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:54am
- Philview
  
  Stuff is treading a very subversive line as a mainstream media entity it is pushing against New Zealand democracy. That article seemed poisonous behind a rather benign headline.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:57am
- Prince
  
  Well spotted Swifty. Stuff have now updated to say he ‘was a Labour Party Member’…nothing about his position or whether he is still a member of course.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:22am
  - Swifty
    
    Thanks very much Prince.
    
    I’ve just looked again and you’re right.
    
    I wrote to them first thing this morning about it, maybe that pricked their consciences a bit. I wrote using that silly little function at the bottom of their articles ‘how did this story make you feeeeeeel’ like we’re all a bunch of kids. I chose the ‘Angry’ option and when prompted for some reasons I wrote ‘you haven’t pointed out to readers his Labour Party background.’
    
    I had little confidence they would read it or take action if they did.
    
    If it was my note that prompted them, well I guess that has answered my question above.
    
    Stuff are loose and sloppy! 😂
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:50am
    - Yabster
      
      stuff are a left wing propaganda machine- good for sport reporting and the quizes- rest is socialist crap
      
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      January 26, 2023 12:04pm
- rouppe
  
  Right at the top:
  
  He has previously been a member of the Labour Party and worked for Parliamentary Services in a Labour MP’s office while Labour was in Opposition.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:45am
  - Swifty
    
    They’ve added that since rouppe.
    
    Wasn’t there this morning.
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:37am
- Local Miller
  
  Thanks for taking one for the team, but I’ll pass on reading it myself. I’m not giving 1$tuff my tick.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:51am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Chippie begins ‘charm-offensive’ today hoping to win over Auckland businesses…

https://twitter.com/smoothie_nz/status/1618308162393899008
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January 26, 2023 8:17am
- Swifty
  
  Hahahahahaha!
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:22am
- john1234
  
  Given that Labour has been humping Auckland businesses hard for 5 years I’d say he’s wasting his time.
  People who have worked hard, taken risks and lost money have long memories.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:24am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He will be wasting his time, if anyone is fooled by his bullshittery, then they must be light in the loafers
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:51am
- cmm
  
  WTF does Hipkins have to go to Akl to “ask questions”.
  
  Surely he’s been asking questions for the last 5 years in various ministerial slots and as a shadow minister before then?
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:49am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Because he has no answers cmm. I thought that was painfully obvious given his lack of success “fixing” anything. Ever.
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:00am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      He’s gone to ask Simon Bridges for advice.
      
      Should’ve listened to Simon 5 years ago.
      
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      January 26, 2023 10:05am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Simon pointed out to him ministers off shore were not sworn in, so their votes don’t count, so could not vote mallard in as speaker, right from the beginning these swines were breaking the laws
        
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        January 26, 2023 12:27pm
  - graham
    
    If Labour’s track record is anything to go by, I sincerely doubt that.
    
    After being in opposition for nine years, you’d think they would have sorted out all their policies, finely honed their plans and budgets, and have everything ready to go and hit the ground running when they finally got elected.
    
    Instead, they looked like inept children when, in 2017, they were finally given their chance to put all their ideas into action. It quickly became obvious that they had done very little in the way of preparation over nine long years, and desperately started scrambling to work out what they were actually meant to do.
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:01am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He would have been pulverised with the answers for 5 years surely
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:52am
  - Nickc2
    
    He’s politicking. His Govt stands to lose a bucket load of seats in Akld come the next election. If you don’t believe me, take a walk through Akld Central and any Suburban center and see the number of shops for sale/lease and those with boarded-up shop fronts.
    Those Turkeys won’t be voting for Christmas eh?
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:53am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      ‘Won’t be voting for Chris – mas’
      
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      January 26, 2023 7:52pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Won’t be voting for Chucky.
        
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        January 26, 2023 9:53pm
  - Scooter
    
    They’re desperate now and can see the writing on the wall. They can’t be trusted (esp Mahuta & Co) that what they are saying now with halting some policy is what will happen if they win in Oct.
    
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    January 26, 2023 7:03pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Today he said after speaking with business he reneged by saying we spoke of immigration for business, he then went on to say that oh we will take time with that, we would really like to see NZers in these jobs,~sigh
      
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      January 26, 2023 9:57pm
ClanMcleod

Outrageous. This is just one video showing the terrible misandry on display to the kind and caring Justin Trudeau on a recent visit to Hamilton, Ontario.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1618112794842304517/pu/vid/848×464/Vw6Ud52ebwhCyfyj.mp4?tag=12

There are another 5 similar videos in this post from Mark Crispin Miller.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/see-how-they-like-trudeau-in-hamilton?

Obviously far right, domestic terrorists.//

Ardern clearly read the room.
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January 26, 2023 8:21am
- ClanMcleod
  
  was this one missed mod? No worries, just checking.
  
  [Mod – no, just a lot of posts to clear when I came on]
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:18am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Mod – cheers and thank you, we do appreciate the job you do.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:20am
Paulus

Chippie is a dreamer and was he not part of the Ardern devastation.
So he has changed for PR reasons and the sycophantic media who want more Propaganda money.
May we assume that he will keep all of Ardern’s staff – some 300 people I understand.
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January 26, 2023 8:24am
Tony Stuart

Chester Borrows served the people of the Whanganui electorate from 2005 to 2017, and was widely respected right across the political spectrum.

Chester is now terminally ill with cancer, and the only treatment that will prolong the time he has left and give him a better quality of life is not funded in New Zealand. He and his family will have to meet the cost themselves.

Friends of Chester reckon he shouldn’t have to, and have started a Givealittle page to help cover the cost of this treatment. Any donation will be welcomed, and you can also help by sharing the link around your social media cycles.

Kia kaha Chester and Ella.

https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/help-chester-borrows
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January 26, 2023 8:25am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Yes, stay strong Chester.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:38am
- Cassandra
  
  I have the same future. Keytruda costs $100,000. Miracle drug, gives valuable time. My horrendously expensive Southern Cross is paying half. Not sure about givealittle for the middle class. But if folk are inclined then give away. I frequently give to deserving cases but what about those which are not high profile?
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:42am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    That’s the good thing about as platform such as Givealittle; it’s entirely up to the individual whether or not they make a contribution. I hope Keytruda works for you Cassandra.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:30pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Sad news Tony but Chester strayed A LOT away from National Party values post 2017.
  
  Along with Finlayson and Bolger he was used by the MSM as a “go to” person to justify a unpopular policy had cross-spectrum support particularly regarding law-and-order and corrections.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:52am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, all he ever did was rubbish National after he was cut from Nats, I think Bridges tried to move him along
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:56am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      You think wrong. Chester left Parliament at the 2017 election, so was gone well before Bridges became the leader.
      
      He also required some persuasion to allow the Givealittle page to be set up; it certainly wasn’t his idea. He is humbled that people might think enough of him to chuck a few dollars his way.
      
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      January 26, 2023 12:28pm
gonzo

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/brings-tears-to-my-eyes-family-consider-selling-after-2500-monthly-interest-rate-rise/LGT6FRARRZAELKHDWVHJJYDIHE/

Step 1. Borrow a million dollars
Step 2. Get shocked when interest rates rise after a 20 year low
Step 3. Express further surprise that the repayments are mostly interest, not principal
Step 4. Go to the media
Step 5. Say the government needs to sort it.

I despair.
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January 26, 2023 8:25am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Step 6. Vote Labour and wonder why Putin and corporate greed did this to you.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:55am
- reubee
  
  Complains that banks are greedy but only fixed for a single year. Why didn’t he fix a portion for 5 years? because he looked at the higher number offered and was greedy himself.
  
  He also asked about 30 year fixed loans? Everything is available at a price. Ask the residents of Christchurch about their loan for Lancaster Park fixed for 22 years at 7.81% when it was redeveloped in 2008
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:01pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Stupid is strong in this one. I guess clearly the gummint must “do something” to protect people from borrowing enormous of sums of money hoping that interest rates will stay at unprecedented lows!
  
  Wait till they move above 7% in May!
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:33pm
Random T Person

My neighbour just sold his house for 1.15 million, middling Whakatane suburb. He is as surprised as I was, and super happy with the result. I’ll miss having him as a neighbour, but he’s just moving down the road into a new build.
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January 26, 2023 8:32am
- Local Miller
  
  I’ve just subdivided my property to separate the major and minor dwellings, and put the major dwelling an the smaller section on the market. In one day there’s been enough interest that the agent is very happy. We expect to get between $980,000 and $1.1m, and this is in a lower to mid class suburb on Auckland north Shore.
  
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  January 26, 2023 11:01am
  - Random T Person
    
    Good luck with the sale.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:23pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The history of this country can be written through the lens of subdivision
    
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    January 26, 2023 7:56pm
ClanMcleod

Mortgage pain: Nelson family consider selling after $2500 monthly interest rate rise ‘brings tears to my eyes’

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/brings-tears-to-my-eyes-family-consider-selling-after-2500-monthly-interest-rate-rise/LGT6FRARRZAELKHDWVHJJYDIHE/

I do feel genuinely sorry for people, but they borrowed 1 million dollars on a 25 year deal.

This outcome was completely predictable and predicted. Whatever happened with the bank “stress test”? There will be much of this in the coming months, it’s going to be a tough winter.
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January 26, 2023 8:32am
- Flossie
  
  You have to wonder too if given the current drop in property prices they would achieve enough from a sale to even pay off their bank.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:39am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, lots of people upside down.
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:49am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Not a hope.
    
    That place will have dropped 2-300k now, they are underwater.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:34pm
artemisia

Herald today – next cab off the rank?

An independent Māori education statutory entity needed, report reveals …. Te Pae Roa chair Dr Wayne Ngata said a work programme and transition plan should be developed before the establishment of an entity was fully considered.

Subtext, maybe this won’t happen because reasons, but there’s still a few months to fill the kete for lots of talk, thanks taxpayers.
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January 26, 2023 8:46am
- Ruawai
  
  Maybe just bring back charter schools and lots of them in poorer areas to help bring the bottom up.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:23am
Flossie

Inflation in New Zealand surely has to be attributed in part at least to the rapid rise in labour pay rates? Businesses do have to pass these costs on to customers as they cannot just absorb them. Add into that the proposed Unemployment insurance scheme….it hasn’t gone away yet.
Businesses are not necessarily rolling in excessive profits as some like to believe.

Looking at news today, Mediaworks are dispensing with 90 positions, and The Warehouse are looking to decrease their workforce by 190. This won’t be the end of retrenchments in both large and small enterprises. Unemployment will escalate, and those doing it tough now facing increased mortgage/rent costs will see the situation worsening.
(I’m not a business owner, and none of my family is either.)
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January 26, 2023 8:48am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Media works can read the writing on the wall, that Labour funding is drying up.
  
  I wonder how many of these redundant roles are of those bright young diverse things so recently welcomed into the MSM? Cue cold bath awakening.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:27am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes Indeed, Inflation I believe is here to stay longer and even more so in NZ.
  
  Globalisation has disintegrated into Isolated supply Chains.
  
  Fuel costs are artficially manipulated to keep prices down.
  
  NZ will be one the later countries to see Inflation come down due to its isolation due to high Import costs and Lower export prices as cost of transportation remains relatively high and less reliable.
  
  “Black Swan” events, Are becoming the “new normal.”
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:28am
thetiedarch

Dear lord, don’t let this idea catch on here. Homeowners pay enough in rates, taxes, levies and GST.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/aussie-campaign-calls-for-weekly-rent-payments-to-indigenous-people/A62LAIZPCJDSBHJCJVVFHFHNDA/
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January 26, 2023 8:53am
- Taieri
  
  I think this a wonderful idea. And a long overdue attempt to express our gratitude to and respect for our First Nations. It should certainly be adopted in Aotearoa. The only issue is the amount to be paid. 1% as in Australia seems to be a bit tokenistic. Let’s start with approx. 17%, reflecting the proportion of the First Nations Peoples in general population of Aotearoa (and adjusted for inflation), as this would be far more appropriate here.
  
  (This amount could best be paid in Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency).
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:45am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Do grog stores take Bitcoin?
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:26am
  - Keith White
    
    I’ll pay it in my own currency, convertible only at Keithibank, they’ll need to pay the forex charges upfront.
    
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    January 26, 2023 4:58pm
- Ruahine
  
  In NZ it is called co-governance.
  
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  January 26, 2023 6:29pm
Frank the tank

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131063365/morgan-godfery-royal-psychodrama-means-only-one-thing-for-nz–a-republic

So the first plant for President Ardern by the MSM. Godfrey has a direct line to the likes of Clint Smith and Greg Presland.

This wasn’t by accident.
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January 26, 2023 8:55am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Morgain Godfrey is only earning his shill(ing).
  
  I saw the headline and almost puked it was so obvious he was sucking on something.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:29am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  If you go republic, you have to change your flag, we had a vote on that, and they the Marxists can take a flying jump
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:59am
cmm

e-bike injuries up five fold in 5 years…

Well duh. There are probably more than 5x as many ebikes on the roads as there were 5 years ago.
If anything the bigger question is why it is only up by 5x.

Meanwhile injuries are down for other bike types. Again, unsurprising as the e-bikes are replacing other bikes.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/131038691/ebike-injury-claims-increase-fivefold-in-five-years-60-to-74yearolds-have-most-claims
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January 26, 2023 8:57am
- CaptainCompromise
  
  Well the obvious answer is that they aren’t regulated enough
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:09am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The obvious answer is that we haven’t spent enough on cycleways
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:28am
- Bridgenag
  
  Anyone bought one….they weigh a ton. Never get up if you fell under one. Silly old retirees trying to get their youth[dreams] back
  
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  January 26, 2023 1:07pm
  - cmm
    
    They are really under-powered motor bikes and should be thought of as such.
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:39pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      They are really motor bikes and should be regulated as such
      
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      January 26, 2023 8:01pm
Maggie Pie

Listening to Grant Robertson rabbiting on with his usual shite this a.m.

You come away with the realization that for the last five years, the whole country has been influenced by the morally depraved, advised by the scientifically compromised, and governed by the pathologically dishonest.

What could go wrong?
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January 26, 2023 9:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well, at least he’s reassured us that inflation has peaked.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018875139/grant-robertson-on-spending-plans-post-ardern
  (at 2.42)
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:08am
  - Prince
    
    Sorry I can’t stand listening to waffle, but did anyone ask what happens when the petrol subsidy comes off in a few weeks /
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:13am
    - Mark Hanley
      
      Grant Robertson will not stand again.
      
      Like Jacinda, he has milked the public purse and will sail off into the sunset to spend the millions.
      
      He also knows the public finance carnage he caused so won’t want to be there when NATIONAL / ACT open the books and explain the situation to the nation.
      
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      January 26, 2023 9:25am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        His failure makes him toxic
        
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        January 26, 2023 12:29pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      I’ve filled the spare tank already
      
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      January 26, 2023 9:29am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Well, sort of….
      
      around 50sec. in – audio clip above.
      
      However, his answer was very nebulous.
      
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      January 26, 2023 10:14am
      - Ghost
        
        It’s a bit of a lie that it is extended to march. The RUC comes off on January 31st, and that is going to hit everyone in their pocket straight away.
        
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        January 26, 2023 10:19am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Really on the basis of what does Robertson believe that? Using his history degree, because he is certainly no economist!
    
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    January 26, 2023 9:17am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Huh, petrol is going up quickly, and that is before the tax starts going back on next week, 2.20 a litre over Christmas, back to $3 by Easter, how will that help drop inflation
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:01am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Brace yourself for petrol rationing over the weekend as the mob rush to fill their tanks.
      
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      January 26, 2023 10:42am
    - Flossie
      
      You’ve been very fortunate to have only paid 2.20 in Dunedin. More like 2.60 here on the Coromandel peninsula.
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:22pm
  - Swifty
    
    What a load of spin from Robertson.
    
    Robertson says their all going to focus on the cost of living, Guyon asks “isn’t that what you have been doing for the last five years?”, Robertson replies “Yes, but the PM has asked us to go look again…”
    
    But what he really meant was “We’ve been smashing through all the policies our special interest groups have wanted and no-one has been keeping an eye on the effect these policies are having on the cost of living. So now we’re in the shit, our chooks are all coming home to roost, and we’re now saying anything and everything to get ourselves out of it.”
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:08am
    - Roberta
      
      So ages ago National were commenting on the cost of living crisis, Jacinda denied that there was one, and now Labour have finally cottoned on that there is one? Geez they’re slow!
      
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      January 26, 2023 8:41pm
  - cmm
    
    As in Peak Oil peaking in the 1970s?
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:39pm
- Frank the tank
  
  You forgot run by an incompetent narcissist. Otherwise your argument is entirely correct.
  
  Anyone else waiting for the Hosk to bait him regarding his self-imposed non selection as PM.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:59am
I remember when

Bay View highway delayed by resource shortage: HB Today.
A shortage of ‘resources’ has forced a delay for resealing recocery work on State Highway 2 near Bay View.
NZTA said contractor “has had to delay the work as a result of a resourcing shortage,”
Exact timing of work to be confirmed, but expected before end of February.
Article included photo of cones at roadworks on SH2 near Bay View last year.

Users would have to have a long memory to recall when there weren’t roadworks on some part of the highway around this locality.
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January 26, 2023 9:02am
ClanMcleod

Two posts confirming alarming drops in birth rates.

The Link Between the Massive Drop in Birth Rates and mRNA Vaccines is Undeniable

To a critical ear, the silence is as deafening as it is worrying. After 11 months of official reports of a sustained fall in the birth rate, the Swedish mainstream media have reacted. However, news reports omit any reference to a possible involvement of the elephant in the room: mRNA vaccines. So, what is the evidence that we should all have an opportunity to consider?

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/24/the-link-between-the-massive-drop-in-birth-rates-and-mrna-vaccines-is-undeniable/

swedish birthrate data: november update

sweden’s birth rate data remains severely suppressed in a fashion unprecedented in the 25 years of data to which i have access. double digit percentage drops in natality constitute a severe demographic issue and one might think that such a jarring outcome might be eliciting widespread and urgent curiosity as to cause. yet oddly, it is not. i fear this may have to do with what looks to be the most plausible culprit. once more it would seem that health agencies are failing to look for that which they would be horrified to find.

i remain distraught that the countries experiencing this are not making grater efforts to determine the cause. (or if they are, they are sure not sharing it) this seems an awfully serious matter to ignore and if the jabs caused this, we need to know.

even if we cannot undo the damage, we may at least avoid doing any more.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/swedish-birthrate-data-november-update?

“Correlation is not causation” – indeed, but the number of alarm bells sounding around all things to do with these “vaccines” is becoming deafening. It needs serious investigation immediately.
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January 26, 2023 9:07am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  I agree that this decline in fertility should be investigated. However, there is another plausible explanation. Severe social and economic disruption has historically caused birth rates to fall. For example in the Great Depression and in WW2. Couples contemplating having a child may have postponed pregnancy, viewing the prospect of major disruptions to society, the prospect of job losses, further lockdowns, and compromised hospital systems. If that hypothesis is correct, I would expect to see fertility rates return to the long term average over the next 12 to 24 months.
  
  However to reiterate, this is an alternative hypothesis. That the vaccine has adversely affected fertility is another hypothesis. Of course governments are terrified of evidence emerging that the latter hypothesis is correct.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:27am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    WC – I agree with you, the point of course is that there are enough signals around all aspects of this programme to demand a halt to it while a full investigation is carried out.
    
    Other countries have made those steps to one degree or another. In NZ, we are still in full narrative control mode and zero questions are being asked.
    
    This is disturbing.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:24am
- I remember when
  
  Professor Robert Clancy drew attention to the possible vaccine effects on fertility in his appearances on Dr John Campbell youtube episodes.
  Not that it would be an outcome, but that it required full research before the vaccines were approved.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:55am
- cmm
  
  Clan, I am no fan of the juice, but I think it is over-egging the pudding to blame falling fertility rates on mRNA.
  
  The truth is that fertility rates have been falling for the last 10+ years pretty much everywhere other than Africa and Pacific Islands.
  
  Even in Western countries, the European population is breeding well below average and the immigrants from the third world are breeding above average.
  
  Now the “lying flat” generation are hitting breading age, they just aren’t breeding. They have lived through two decades of guilt-ridden education which has programmed them to believe that they and their kind have destroyed the world and are to blame for everything from slavery to climate change. No wonder they just want to disappear into a make believe world of social media and not breed!
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:01am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    cmm – I hear what you are saying but have to totally disagree that it is “overegging the pudding.”
    
    Did you read the bad cattitude post? If not I highly recommend reading it thoroughly and see if you still think this is just normal.
    The analysis is based on scientific study, not theory. Here’s the link again.
    
    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/swedish-birthrate-data-november-update
    
    At the beginning of their post the author states clearly:
    
    some base priors here:
    
    correlation is not causality. these associations are not and cannot be positive proof. but they can certainly be cause for suspicion and alarm.
    
    such suspicion is greatly bolstered by strong, independent, and a priori reasons to suspect fertility effects from covid vaccines as they are known to collect in testes and ovaries and the ability of mRNA drugs to trigger ongoing auto-immune issues is well known.
    
    we have specific clinical studies that show not only sharp suppression in sperm total motile counts post covid vaccination, but that appear to show that something on the order of 20% of subjects are not recovering from this and may be experiencing near total loss of motility. effects on eggs and ovaries seem less well studied (itself a somewhat puzzling outcome) but could be similar or perhaps worse as eggs, once damaged, are gone and do not regenerate.
    
    so, we’re not just seeking out seeming or spurious correlation here. we have sound reason to suspect an effect rooted in demonstrated clinical biology and are looking at society scale data to see if it is manifesting. that is a much higher quality form of evidence than pure associative data mining. it is still not “proof” in the sense of RCT or being able to look at births by vaccine status and seek curve separation between the two cohorts, but it is not a result to readily dismiss or hand wave away either. especially as the period of “this might be an echo from everyone going travelling in summer 2021” per my attempts at “testable hypotheses” from back in july 2022 has now passed without any improvement, this looks to me to be reaching the point of having to be accepted as the odds on best theory.
    
    Within the post there is a graph showing a clear correlation between jab rollouts and this decline in mortality.
    Maybe everybody was just sad after getting jabbed and didn’t want to root for a while. Who knows, but there are more than enough alarming signals to warrant a halt to the vaccine rollout and an independent and intense study being done.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:36am
    - cmm
      
      Clan, it is an interesting read and there might well be something to it.
      
      However when we look at the downward trend that was already in place this probably doesn’t really change the longterm projections/trends except maybe making the crunch happen a bit sooner.
      
      If this is indeed true then here is how I would think it plays out:
      * More money gets funnelled into Baby Bonuses which are a good deal for those who are breeding anyway.
      * Demographics shift even faster than they are now.
      
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      January 26, 2023 11:23am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    No – this is a sudden, statistically significant, fall in birth rates in Europe over a 12 months period. As I commented, I think the most likely cause is couples postponing getting pregnant in the midst of the pandemic, lockdowns etc. If that is correct, birth rates should return to expected levels over 2023 and 2024.
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

You can tell the country is in trouble when the Warehouse lays off staff.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2023/01/fears-grow-the-warehouse-group-may-axe-190-jobs.html
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January 26, 2023 9:11am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Get in before the shit hits the fan
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:04am
  - cmm
    
    Will The Warehouse be there to honour the 12 month warrantee on the shit-hit fan?
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:03am
- Ghost
  
  I went to Ashburton a few weeks after Kmart opened there. Kmart busy as hell, warehouse was empty.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:07am
kevn

@Clan… Not just Sweden of course, a global issue.
The silence from all governments is deafening.
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January 26, 2023 9:11am
- cmm
  
  Many governments are providing cash incentives to their populations to make babies.
  
  This might bump up the raw numbers but, unfortunately, has a eugenic (or rather a reverse eugenic) effect of encouraging breeding amongst those for whom breeding for hand outs is a Good Deal.
  
  For example, France has a means tested baby bonus of over 900 Euro per baby. Any guesses as to who would find that a Good Deal?
  
  What do they think their demographics are going to look like in 2050?
  
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  January 26, 2023 11:11am
  - Nickc2
    
    What do they think their demographics are going to look like in 2050?
    
    Just like ours.
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:37am
DimChappie

Chris Trotter analyses Luxon’s Ratana stance on co-governance and reckons Hipkins should axe Three Waters and re-examine the treaty:

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/01/26/after-ratana/

“Hipkins’ first and most obvious move is to announce that the Three Waters legislation will be repealed, pending a broad and thorough examination of the project’s all-too-obvious political and economic shortcomings. Pushing the pause button on this extraordinarily unpopular project will be good, practical, “bread-and-butter” politics. Were the new prime minister to follow it up with a promise to initiate an equally broad and thorough democratic debate about the moral and practical status of the Tiriti/Treaty in twenty-first century New Zealand, the public response might be even more positive – especially if the right of all schools of historical and constitutional thought to freely contend with one another was guaranteed and by Hipkins’ Government.
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January 26, 2023 9:16am
- Nickc2
  
  This may apply a new shade of Lipstick to the Pig, but it’s still the same Pig.
  Remember, 3/5Waters Legislation was orchestrated by Labour and AFIK, if they repealed it, their Maori Caucus will walk. This may in itself not be a bad thing but a fractured bunch of politicians isn’t going to win an election for a very long time.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:40am
  - Random T Person
    
    Was just thinking that this morning. Remember when the pig was replaced by a better looking one (and Judith ‘Foot In Mouth’ Collins used that very expression? The electorate fell for it hook line and sinker.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:25pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It won’t be repealed though, he states anything they change will be put on hold, to slow the process a bit, they won’t drop anything for hood, he was asked about CGT and super now Ardern is gone, he said he will honour that till the election, so yep CGT and higher age for super will be part of the next term as well as all these rotten policies
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There’s no way Labour is going to initiate any open debate about TofW status.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:19am
  - Taieri
    
    There’s no way Labour is going to initiate any open debate about TofW status
    ————–
    
    I don’t think any party will. Things have gone too far and it’s virtually impossible at present to consign this fine document to where it belongs – in the National Archives.
    Just looking at the ever growing number of “principles” and their application in everyday’s situation shows the futility of such undertaking. We are living in strange times; questioning the currency and usefulness of the ToW would be met with an outrage, and not from just the Maori, but from all the assorted “progressives” and would be a political suicide for any major party. Remember what happened to the seven professors with regard to their opinion on Matauranga. One possible solution would be an enforcement of the “now we are one people” principle, which is actually the only real principle arising from the ToW. But it would need someone far smarter, than any current politician, for it to be successfully sold to the majority of voters.
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:52am
    - DimChappie
      
      What about Seymour’s referendum. Are you sure a majority are happy with the treaty’s current status?
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:22pm
      - Taieri
        
        What about Seymour’s referendum
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        Not going to happen. Unless ACT is a senior coalition partner.
        
        Are you sure a majority are happy with the treaty’s current status?
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        It doesn’t matter what I think (and for the record I’m not happy with it). What matters though is what is politically possible to achieve. And nullifying the ToW is currently not possible. Period.
        
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        January 26, 2023 1:41pm
      - Sideoiler
        
        @ Taieri
        
        What about Seymour’s referendum
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        Not going to happen. Unless ACT is a senior coalition partner.
        
        Do you really think National is going to govern alone based on the current poles?
        If not, who do you think they would be able to form a coalition with?
        
        I doubt there will be a single party govenment in NZ for quite some considerable period of time.
        
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        January 26, 2023 2:38pm
Jack5

The justice system frets about the future of criminals to the point of ignoring hurt, losses, and fears of the citizens who are victims.

From a Christchurch Star report: the sentencing of a 14-year-old boy who went on a six month crime spree resulting in 84 charges.

The pattern of offending was for the boy and associates to steal cars, drive dangerously while refusing to stop for police, and punch and kick members of the public.

The police sought a “residence sentence” of six months, however the judge agreed to reduce it to four months so he could get back to school at the beginning of term two.

The Star reports Judge Jane McMeeken agreed it would be good for the boy, “who had been anxious about missing out on school,” to get back to his education.

She is also reported as saying that if she read out all the victims’ impact statements from the boy’s offending, she would be reading for an hour.
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January 26, 2023 9:22am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Victims should be given a right of reply to the judgement. Then the courts would know how those affected regard them.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:31am
- Bridgenag
  
  THE DUDGES ARE A DISGRACE!
  
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  January 26, 2023 1:12pm
Bobba Fret

I know one of Labour’s catch phrases for the election was “Let’s do this!”, I wonder if Hipkins’ election cry will be “Let’s undo this!”
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January 26, 2023 9:24am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Given the lack of delivery from this government, how do you expect them to undo things they haven’t done yet?
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:30am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    I forgot about “the year of delivery” ………………any one know when that is happening?
    
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    January 26, 2023 2:29pm
    - Ghost
      
      Labour have been delivering a lot so I think that is accomplished
      
      They’ve delivered high child poverty rates, success
      They’ve delivered higher crime rates, success
      They’ve delivered higher cost of living , huge success
      They have delivered higher truancy rates, bloody big success
      They’ve delivered higher waiting times for hospital waiting times, success
      They’ve delivered higher homelessness or living in emergency accommodation, success
      They’ve delivered separatist policies, success
      
      What haven’t they delivered on?
      
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      January 26, 2023 2:33pm
Maggie Pie

UPDATE… 🙁

Remember last week I posted the link to the Atlanta based adoptive gay couple, arrested for pimping their adopted children out to other pedos for sex?
I suggested they should be prime candidates for the death penalty?

Interestingly, a US Congressman who’s taken an interest in the case…..has made a call that they face a firing-squad!!

https://twitter.com/AndyOgles/status/1615923756135862275
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January 26, 2023 9:32am
Its only I

“Hipkins was leading a party along the bank of a river, wondering how to get to the other side. Suddenly he saw a group of gullible voters. He asked the voters to take them on their backs across the river. The voters said, “No, if I do that you’ll sting us, and we will drown.” The Labour leader assured them, “If I did that, we’d all drown.” The voters thought about it and finally agreed. So the Labour party climbed up on the voters backs, and they began to swim. But halfway across the river, the Labour Party stung them all. As the poison filled their veins, the voters turned to the Labour Party and said, “why did you do that? Now you’ll drown too.” “I couldn’t help it,” said the Labour leader. “It’s our nature.””
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January 26, 2023 9:33am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You forgot to tell us that the Labour elite were all wearing life-jackets.
  
  (They always look after themselves)
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:21am
I remember when

Stats NZ has reported that Fruit and Vegetable prices have inflated by 20%.
Did they mention that the quality of much of the fruit seems to have deteriorated by at least the same percentage.
In fact, is the consumer paying even more of an increase because of the hidden waste.
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January 26, 2023 9:38am
Ghost

This is just pathetic, I hope she doesn’t give up and leave

After seven months, Jane Murphy, a nurse with 40 years experience, is on the verge of giving up on getting her registration to work in New Zealand.

Murphy is on the West Coast of the South Island where she says they are “gagging” for nurses, but her skills and experience cannot be put to use.

The 52-year-old from the United Kingdom is pleading with the Nursing Council of New Zealand to find a better, faster way to process registration applications.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130979761/uk-nurse-with-40-years-experience-close-to-giving-up-on-working-in-nz
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January 26, 2023 9:43am
- Nickc2
  
  Tell her to e-mail the PM! Oh, and cc to Chris Luxon and David Seymour.
  
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  January 26, 2023 9:48am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    She might want to check the math in her CV – at 52 years of age and 40 years experience – Murphy started nursing at age 12.
    
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    January 26, 2023 7:03pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Been a chronic problem for years. Same with pharmacists. Bureaucracies know protcting their backsides has no costs – to them.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:34am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Same with eye specialists WRT cataract & lens replacement. In NZ, it costs around $4,000. There wer a few Aussie specialists wanting to start up here, because in Oz, the operation is half the price. But the appropriate Govt. assn would not give the Aussies registration, purely to protect the locals, so they could continue their rorting.
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:12am
    - Taieri
      
      But the appropriate Govt. assn would not give the Aussies registration
      ———–
      
      The Medical Council is not a government institution. It’s a guild.
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:30pm
      - Keith White
        
        …with caporegimes at the top.
        
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        January 26, 2023 6:58pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      There is an Association, which is an industry rah-rah group & of which membership is voluntary.
      
      Registration is carried out by a Regulator, which is required by statute to administer professional standards. Membership is mandatory in order to practice in NZ. It may be achieved through appropriate educational attainment in NZ or via the recognition of similar education from comparable countries. Australia is definitely one of these countries.
      
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      January 26, 2023 8:17pm
- cmm
  
  Turn it into a wiata and they will listen. Of course nobody will understand WTF it means…
  
  This isn’t just a problem in nursing. It is a problem with capable staff in all fields.
  
  30 years ago when I came to NZ, we had a points system. Get enough points and they rolled out a red carpet (albeit a slightly moth-eaten red carpet from the Rogernomics era). I arrived on a Permanent Resident’s Arrival Visa. As soon as my passport was stamped I was a PR.
  
  Now quality people have more opportunities to shop around than ever before. The worldwide shortage is more acute than ever before. Treat them like shit and they go elsewhere.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:55am
kevn

@Ghost… do-little and wood for brains. What a pathetic combo.
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January 26, 2023 9:47am
Maggie Pie

WOOPSIE!
Just remembered I’d promised a couple of weeks ago to review Countdowns Hot-X-Buns.
This year they’re 20% smaller, 20% dearer, lacking in spice and texture.

Score out of 5: AVOID

(Will review others once they hit the shelves.)
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January 26, 2023 9:55am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  All this hot cross buns crap; we are 27 days away from Lent!!!
  
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  January 26, 2023 11:51am
- H. Upmann
  
  Maggie: Surely you know that the ONLY Hot-X-Buns to buy are from Ima.
  In Fort Street.
  Fort Street is probably the easiest CBD street to get kerbside parking: it is one of those shared “spaces” so park anywhere.
  Worth the journey so get adventurous!
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:21pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yeah, I have tried them – they were a bit OTT for my liking.
    Last year I ended up picking the big crosses off and scrapping out the custard. I’m more ya ordinary sort tbh.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:47pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      How can you toast custard HCB’S?
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:15pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Like I said silly – you scrape it out first!!
        
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        January 26, 2023 1:28pm
ClanMcleod

U.K. Becomes Latest Country to Ban Covid Boosters for Under-50s

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/25/u-k-becomes-latest-country-to-ban-covid-boosters-for-under-50s/

Meanwhile in NZ, “get your booster” and “let’s shove this experimental product into the bodies of vulnerable 6 month to four year olds” because it’s “safe and effective………”

The evidence emerging regarding the danger of this experiment is becoming unstoppable.
The BFD have an excellent post on the topic today.

Can We Look at the Science Now?

There is a possibility Jacinda Ardern’s hasty departure from politics has more to do with her policies around the Covid pandemic than any other factor. Did someone whisper in her ear “The mRNA vaccine is not safe and effective; it kills people, it makes them sick, they catch Covid repeatedly and they die?”

In New Zealand Ardern and Covid are synonymous.

We were told myocarditis was rare, in fact, the MoH website still carries that ‘truth’ but a Thai study of adolescent boys showed effects on the heart in 29.24% of mRNA vaccine recipients, which can hardly be considered rare.

The Covid vaccination programme was the largest medical experiment known to man. Large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein and mRNA were injected into bodies with unknown consequences but the curtain has now been pulled back on how the experts used propaganda, instead of science, to drive public opinion.

Ardern stole three good years from us with her destructive Covid policies. We must demand our politicians do not do the same by turning a blind eye to possible inconvenient truths.

The madness continues in the country formerly known as Jacindastan.
There must be some fearful conversations being held in high and low places right around the beltway and in government buildings. Rightly so.

Will the new leader walk this back? Will he be stupid enough to carry this collapsing narrative forward?
Or will he continue to sing “lalalalalala” really loudly while sticking a finger in each year and hope it somehow mysteriously vanishes?

Pro tip. It won’t. Deal with it. The tipping point is not far away.

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January 26, 2023 10:02am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I know that a lot of people have had sudden death recently, which may or may not be the vax, but out of all my friends, family, work colleagues, snd listening to people I know, I have never heard one person that has had a problem with the vax, or died suddenly
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:12am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    G – I’m pleased for you. Personally I know a number who have died suddenly in the last year, I know a few who have had issues after the jab. Nothing is proven.
    
    As I’ve said often, “I know that correlation is not causation” – but the alarming signals are becoming deafening. This not anecdotal stuff, this is clear worrying data emerging in countries right around the world.
    It needs investigated urgently.
    
    The longer it is ignored the worse it looks for those who drove the narrative.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:43am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Fair enough, but what do you mean by problems with the vax? Are we talking a sore arm, or pericarditis?
      
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      January 26, 2023 12:36pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      Sad but every single person I know has suddenly got cancer or covid or liver or heart problems or whatever…..
      
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      January 26, 2023 1:16pm
- Keith White
  
  I see Bloomfield and his groupies are downticking you Macleod.
  
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  January 26, 2023 6:59pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Keith – it’s OK, I understand, some don’t like inconvenient truth but it stands alone. I have no reason to be offended, it is what it is.
    
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    January 27, 2023 12:57am
I remember when

Wairoa Mayor, Craig Little, is concerned about the future of Wairoa’s roading network.
Wairoa District Council receives an emergency works Funding Assistance Rate (FAR) of 95%, but had applied for 100% bespoke funding to repair hundreds of slips and nearly 100 drop-outs during severe weather in March/April last year.
“This type of decision is not dissimilar to 3 Waters where there is simply not enough funding given to local authorities to do the job,” Little said.
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January 26, 2023 10:04am
- Stu2
  
  We’ve got a vast amount of road per capita, much of which is farm access (open road, not state highway).
  
  The storm events which we have been seeing are going to overwhelm local road repair funding and stretch national funding as well.
  
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  January 26, 2023 2:27pm
Thought Criminal

Serious question, will there be a by election in Mt Albert?

Do National have to vote against there being one? Will they do that?
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January 26, 2023 10:06am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They don’t get a say if Ardern stays till April, how ever, it was strange they did a guard of honour for her because it’s the last time she will leave the building, rather strange way to talk about a person who has 2 and a half months left
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:13am
  - cmm
    
    Sick leave: Empty tank and all that.
    …or maybe she has been forced to keep a low profile for right wing nutter security concerns.
    … or …
    
    Spinmeisters are holding focus groups etc to figure out which message to run with.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:43am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    “They don’t get a say if Ardern stays till April…”
    
    No that is incorrect. If a vacancy occurs within 6 months of a scheduled election, a by election is only not held if 75 percent of MPs agree. So National MPs need to agree to forego the by election. Of course they will, because a by election in April or May would be a distraction and National would be roundly criticised if it forced one.
    
    https://elections.nz/democracy-in-nz/about-elections/what-is-a-by-election/
    
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    January 26, 2023 2:00pm
  - DeepBlue
    
    On resignation day she said she will return to Mt. Albert to serve her electorate. So I guess she will be in the electorate office receiving the faithful and will be excused from Parliament.
    Or she will sneak in and out of the back bench.
    
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    January 26, 2023 4:50pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  No there won’t be because Cindy is hanging on until April. That is within 6 months of the General Election so a by-election is not necessary.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:15am
  - Flossie
    
    “Hanging on” is probably correct. She’ll still draw a back bencher’s salary but how often will she front up in parliament, or even her electorate office? Wonder if she even remembers where that is!
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:32am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    Not quite correct – National could force a by election, as foregoing a by election requires 75 percent of MPs to agree. Of course they will not do that.
    
    Outside of 6 months from the election, there is no choice but to hold a by election.
    
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    January 26, 2023 2:07pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, i heard Soper today say that, if the Nats dug their toes in they could force a by election, but it would be seen in bad taste, Labour did not force it when Key did the same in 2017, Labour could simply say look who is the party of waste, they are better off keeping out of it, they won’t win that seat anyway.
      
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      January 26, 2023 10:06pm
  - Close Hen Counters
    
    I’ll tell you what else is hanging on captain – front page herald selfie with kid on beach at Lyall Bay ….. same red dress as yesterdays guard of honour ewwwhhhh ….
    
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    January 26, 2023 8:01pm
TT500

Grant Robertson states publicly that he was not
interested in the PimeMinistership as it requires
a 100 percent comittment.
Apparently the position of Finance Minister does
not .
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January 26, 2023 10:10am
- cmm
  
  Cindy said the same: she wanted to make babies and, as she said at the time, that is incompatible with being party leader.
  
  She was right for once.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:45am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I recall a shrill and sanctimonious finger pointing rant when the aforementioned female was asked by a mere male TV presenter if she planned to have a baby while in Parliament. (There is mention of the event on the interwebs, but it appears the party’s tax funded internet propaganda army have had the video wiped from the internet).
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:30pm
- Scooter
  
  Weasel Robertson is still spinning the yarn that inflation has peaked and it was brought on by overseas conditions. Sounds more like he has less in the tank than Cindy.
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/grant-robertson-finance-minister-says-he-believes-inflation-is-now-past-its-peak/
  
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  January 26, 2023 11:22am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Yes, but he’s got a much bigger tank than Cindy. 🙂
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:55am
I remember when

14 Dec 2022: Fuel Tax rebate extended to 31/3/23.
15 Dec 2022: Last sitting of Parliament.
19 Jan 2023:Jacinda announces resignation.

Chris Hipkins says that Jacinda told him she was considering her options during the break.
Was the decision more than just to help the public travel during their holidays.
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January 26, 2023 10:12am
mandk

It’s getting tougher for first-time buyers:
https://www.interest.co.nz/property/119373/decline-house-prices-has-been-more-offset-rising-interest-rates-pushing-home

Gee, thanks Labour!
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January 26, 2023 10:36am
- cmm
  
  Banks are also going to be more jittery about lending due to too many of the marginal customers now being upside down or on the edge of defaulting.
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:46am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Think by experience they were told to tighten up they will have been told …. No to defaults and “out on the street” because it will make the Guv look bad
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:20pm
Maggie Pie

[Mod – this case has name suppression, any further attemt to put this blog at risk will be a ban]
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January 26, 2023 10:38am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Sorry Modsie – didn’t do it on purpose 🙁
  
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  January 26, 2023 1:08pm
sirknz

Does anybody know why Employment NZ doesn’t have Maori name?

https://www.employment.govt.nz/

Seems odd given that just about every other government department has one these days…
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January 26, 2023 11:04am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Probably because they’re one of the few government departments that realise there’s SFA people in the country who speak or understand Maori’
  
  Just a thought?
  
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  January 26, 2023 11:34am
  - Ghost
    
    I had to laugh yesterday when Hipkins was talking. Learning to speak Māori has always been on his todo list, and now he is PM he promises to learn it. So basically didn’t want to learn it but now I have to
    
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    January 26, 2023 11:37am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      He had higher priorities? Shocking!
      
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      January 26, 2023 12:31pm
Ghost

If you don’t know how to swim don’t go into the ocean. This annoys me as it appears to want to shift blame from the fact they couldn’t swim.

A family member of the two men who drowned at Piha Beach is calling for heightened water safety measures saying people don’t realise lifeguard patrol hours are limited.

Yesterday, an emotional farewell ceremony was held to complete the last rites of Saurin Patel and Anshul Shah, two friends who lost their lives at the Auckland west coast beach on Saturday.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/piha-drowning-farewell-for-two-dead-indian-nationals-calls-for-water-safety-awareness/ERUKOWOEWJFDJCBAUTNE2347HY/
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January 26, 2023 11:09am
- Swifty
  
  Yes, good point Ghost.
  
  If anything, shouldn’t we pushing the importance of people self-identifying and self-managing their own risks?
  
  Isn’t that how we build a more resilient nation of people?
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:07pm
- Yabster
  
  If you can’t swim or are unfamiliar with the local conditions then you shouldn’t swim- pretty bloody obvious -personal responsibility to judge their ability and be educated.
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:25pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Bathing on Auckland’s west coast beaches when you can’t swim is suicidal in my book. Especially when there are so many safe east coast alternatives
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:38pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    or lakes
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:21pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘don’t realise lifeguard patrol hours are limited.’
  
  FFS, if the Flags aren’t there. and no one with red caps on wearing speedos, then there’s no Lifeguards.
  Are these people so retarded they cant look and check first?
  
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  January 26, 2023 3:07pm
  - DeepBlue
    
    And the lifeguards were there. Packing up but saw it unfolding as they were in a dangerous spot. They did their best to reach them.
    
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    January 26, 2023 4:54pm
ClanMcleod

This article from the Sydney Morning Herald has aged well.

Farce mask: it’s safe for only 20 minutes

Retailers who cash in on community fears about SARS by exaggerating the health benefits of surgical masks could face fines of up to $110,000.NSW Fair Trading Minister Reba Meagher yesterday warned that distributors and traders could be prosecuted if it was suggested the masks offered unrealistic levels of protection from the disease. … Health authorities have warned that surgical masks may not be an effective protection against the virus.“Those masks are only effective so long as they are dry,” said Professor Yvonne Cossart of the Department of Infectious Diseases at the University of Sydney.“As soon as they become saturated with the moisture in your breath they stop doing their job and pass on the droplets.”Professor Cossart said that could take as little as 15 or 20 minutes, after which the mask would need to be changed. But those warnings haven’t stopped people snapping up the masks, with retailers reporting they are having trouble keeping up with demand.John Bell from the Pharmaceutical Society of Australia, who owns a pharmacy in Woollahra, Sydney, said mask supplies were running low. …“I think they’re of marginal benefit,” he said. “In a way they give some comfort to people who think they’re doing as much as they can do to prevent the infection.” …

What say you Michael Baker?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/farce-mask-its-safe-for-only-20-minutes-20030427-gdgnyo.html
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January 26, 2023 11:20am
- Random T Person
  
  My son and I wore surgical masks as makeshift protection against spray painting (a bicycle he was rebuilding). We both had spray paint up our snouts after a few coats.
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:38pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    Didn’t you tell us this a week or two ago …. ?
    
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    January 26, 2023 6:13pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Probably, but lots of people still don’t seem to understand the implications of our “experts” lying to us to convince use to act like idiots and to take part in a medical experiment. They are still lying or trying to pretend it didn’t matter and it’s all over.
      It isn’t. It is one of the biggest acts of malfeasance committed in the past 100 years on the planet. These are people we entrust to run our societies for us and they have failed in every respect.
      
      It’s no small matter.
      
      But it’s like the radio or TV. You can always choose to ignore it.
      
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      January 27, 2023 8:48am
- surfing
  
  What would you do all day were it not for Donald Trump, climate change, and covid?
  
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  January 26, 2023 1:51pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Plenty. Today I managed to work for 3 hours, tidied the garage, got 18 holes of golf in, had a couple of beers with mates after, came home and had dinner with the wife then we watched a movie together.
    Thanks for the concern. 🤡
    
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    January 27, 2023 1:04am
Maggie Pie

This column by Graham Adams is a work art…. ENJOY!

“Ironically, Ardern has been complicit herself in an extraordinary legislative move to make misogyny official government policy. By making the definition of a woman a moveable feast that includes biological men, she has helped erase the scientific and common-sense definitions that underpin women’s sex-based rights”

https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/the-martyrdom-of-jacinda-ardern
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January 26, 2023 11:22am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Yes he nails it.
  
  The zombie army will accordingly go berserk upon reading the article.
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:35pm
DeepBlue

Hipkins press conference following Auckland business meeting… in 2 minutes he said ‘New Zealand’ 6 times (4 of those in his opening breath), our country, kiwis and meeting ethnic communities.

Not once iwi, Māori, Aotearoa. I call that a comms reset.
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January 26, 2023 11:43am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He never usually does, he did say one greeting on the podium of bullshittery
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:17pm
Maggie Pie

Suddenly an awful lot of people on Twitter seem to be getting their tits-in-a-tangle about the governments cut to the F.E.D being reinstated by the end of March.

I’ve replied to a number of them that it’s only 25cents a liter FFS!

SHEESH eh.
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January 26, 2023 11:59am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hahahahaha, plus 4 cents GST all it will do is force up inflation in the next quarter, I’m prepared to pay it to see them sweating that inflation is still in the 7s mid year
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:19pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YIP. I say to some of the whingers it’ll add no more to filling your car than buying a packet of ciggies every week!
    Time to give up smoking ya mug – you’ll be better for it.
    
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    January 26, 2023 12:39pm
Ehlana

From a Newsroom opinion piece: “Ardern … was willing to be cross-examined by the media more frequently and rigorously than any other contemporary head of government, and showed through Covid-19 that she could argue the science at length with reporters and correlate it to details of her policy. There is scarcely a policy subject or a value preference that Ardern finds difficult to articulate and defend her view on.”

Is there another Ardern out there?
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January 26, 2023 12:45pm
- Brian McDonald
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Are you feeling deep loss at not being able to insult the former PM every day? So decided to just carry on instead?
  
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  January 26, 2023 12:58pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Where’s the “insult” there BM?
    
    Ardern chose to be PM. The people are not blind. You expect mindless sycophancy?
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:07pm
    - MCōs
      
      Ardern didn’t choose to be PM
      She was elected
      The same way any NZ PM gets the job
      Furthermore
      Some’s would say Winston made her PM
      No more so than David Seymour could make Luxon PM later this year.
      
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      January 26, 2023 4:11pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        MCōs: “Ardern didn’t choose to be PM. She was elected
        The same way any NZ PM gets the job. ”
        
        Right, so presumably not being a complete vegetable without agency, SHE made the DECISION to go with that???? She couldn’t decline? She was forced into it? She’s a weak waif with very low ability to assert herself? Is that what you are suggesting?
        
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        January 26, 2023 5:34pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        “Some’s would say Winston made her PM”
        
        Again, she couldn’t decline? Or SHE CHOSE to proceed?? Which option will you go with?
        
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        January 26, 2023 5:36pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Like the office cake thing. Perhaps she inhaled the PM-ship from three desks away.
        
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        January 26, 2023 8:28pm
- MCōs
  
  I saw an article today about the Thai PM who became angry at a question asked by a reporter.
  He immediately shut down the press conference, jumped in his car and took off.
  An advantage of being in an unassailable position in their form of democracy.
  My wife tells me he’s always angry with reporters, constantly refusing to answer curly questions.
  https://aseannow.com/topic/1284545-prayut-angered-when-asked-to-respond-to-thaksin’s-comments/
  
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  January 26, 2023 1:16pm
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Àrdern did a similar thing up North I think, and would only answer questions of ‘registered?’ interviewers and then moved it to indoors.
    
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    January 26, 2023 1:55pm
    - DeepBlue
      
      That was one of her last outdoor stand ups… and it was a long time ago.
      
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      January 26, 2023 4:57pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Being angry is one thing, we have some NZ examples of how to manage reporters.
    
    Like the time where Peter Williams asked Grant Robertson about the Great Reset. Williams lost his job shortly after.
    
    Another NZ story, PM refused to talk with the Nations number one rating breakfast host, Mike Hosking. But no problem with catching up with comedians Jono and Ben.
    
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    January 26, 2023 7:11pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Must have been another one out there, I recall watching the podium of truth and seeing the ex PM making policy up each day, evidenced by her being asked a question, looking to the heavens for inspiration and then coming up with some policy statement that was in conflict with what the officials had already decided or advised. Hence at times lots of confusion and changes to requirements shortly after they had been implemented. It seemed like she got confused between the pre media briefing and delivering the message. The great communicator was good at reading prepared statements but not good at speaking off the cuff in support of them.
  
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  January 26, 2023 3:24pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahahaha, Hipkins said at Ratana he is not going to make up policy on the fly, sounded like he was talking about Ardern, but he arrogantly would have been talking about Luxon over Co-governance, even though he has been talking about it for several months.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:17pm
Swifty

The current cost of living crisis is stark and convincing evidence to me that 1. Labour have been reckless in government and 2. It proves Labour have a chronic inability to learn from past mistakes.

Why do I think this?

There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that our housing crisis since the 90s has been a failure of government – both central and local. By both National and Labour and the do-gooders who gravitate to local councils.

For decades and decades NZ had fairly stable house prices – the long run average was that the median house price was three times the median salary.

Then starting with the Town and Country Planning Act in 1974 but far more crucially the RMA in the 90s we saw house prices skyrocket. To a degree never before seen in New Zealand we saw highly prescriptive rules about what you could build, where, how, with what materials, who you needed to consult, what must be consulted on, who gets to oppose it etc etc etc.

All of which made house building more costly, more complex and taking much, much longer than before.

This constrained supply just as we entered a period of rapid immigration growth and, as they say, the rest is history. Prices went through the roof (now 8, 10, 12, times the median wage) and here we all are.

Now, I’m not saying that all the changes were automatically bad. What I am saying is that it was a choice. You can have all these rules and regulations, you can have all these restrictions and hurdles to jump over but at least be honest and acknowledge that supply will likely be constrained and prices will absolutely, certainly go up.

What you can’t do is add all these burdens, costs and complexities and expect prices to remain the same.

As a country we weren’t honest. I would argue we mostly didn’t even ask, when setting all these new rules, what will be the effect on housing supply and housing prices?

Nobody kept an eye on the scoreboard.

Nobody.

A real clincher for me is that in the government’s response to the housing crisis they passed legislation specifically allowing the new housing bodies to bypass a number of the rules, barriers and regulations in order to get housing built faster and less expensively.

The very rules and regulations they themselves put in or otherwise applauded!

Have Labour learned from this?

Not a bit.

In the last five years they’ve done it all over again! Time after time after time after time since 2017 Labour have put in new policies and laws making it more expensive to carry out business, to employ people, to build housing, the list just goes on and on.

And who kept an eye on the scoreboard? Who within Labour was saying to Ardern et al “Hold on, this’ll raise prices”, “Hang on, what’ll this mean for the cost of living?”

I think the answer was no one. New holidays, new burdensome compliance activities, more rules and regulations, relentless minimum wage increases, FPAs – all needed to payback political favours were just rammed through without a care for consequences.

Well those chooks have now come home to roost and Labour are in a mad panic. They weren’t honest with themselves or us that we have a choice. They chose to sock landlords, housing developers, businesses, farmers, food producers etc etc without also understanding the knock on effects on the cost of living.

They have learnt nothing from the housing crisis. Nothing.

There’s an old saying that goes something like “it is extremely foolish to rely on the same heads who got you into a mess to be the same heads to get you out of it.”

For Labour to say “they are now focussed on the cost of living as number one priority “ just tells New Zealanders that this has not been a priority for them at all over the last five years.

If that is the case then they thoroughly deserve being swept from office later in the year and remembered as being a thoroughly irresponsible and incompetent government who prioritised handing out political favours over the lives of ordinary New Zealanders.
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January 26, 2023 1:06pm
- Ian Boag
  
  For decades and decades NZ had fairly stable house prices – the long run average was that the median house price was three times the median salary.
  
  I think that one bit the dust sometime in the 70s ….
  
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  January 26, 2023 6:16pm
  - Swifty
    
    Thank you Ian for reinforcing my point.
    
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    January 26, 2023 6:18pm
- Mark Hanley
  
  Lazy governments.
  
  House price inflation is easy to create, makes people feel richer, encourages them to borrow and spend, pumps up the economy.
  
  Making people wealthy by improving productivity requires expertise, careful planning, technology and infrastructure.
  
  In other words it requires clever hard working government.
  
  English and Joyce had the qualities required to improve NZs productivity. Adern and Robertson -no chance.
  
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  January 26, 2023 7:10pm
  - Mike
    
    How much did productivity improve under their stewsrdship?
    
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    January 26, 2023 7:32pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  You should offer this as an opinion piece to The Herald, Swifty.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:31pm
Handyman

Stuff apparently has had a policy of always featuring Ardern, usually in heroic or saintly pose, on its web site each day.
It could go one of two ways:
1. They will keep finding ways to keep Ardern on the front page to build the Ardern legend.
2. They will be told to quietly disappear her from the news and to start building the Hipkins legend.

My prediction is: before the election Stuff will “discover” that while Ardern provided leadership the real saviour of the people from covid was Hipkins (and possibly Bloomfield).
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January 26, 2023 1:24pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Covid is yesterdays news and has disappeared from the MSM. My bet is they will try and forget that ugly chapter and just go with a large bribe. Maybe capital gains tax.
  
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  January 26, 2023 2:06pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    More likely a wealth tax. CGT will net no revenue while property prices adjust to affordable levels over the next few years.
    
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    January 26, 2023 4:52pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    CGT has been ruled out before the election, but he refuses to rule out CGT and a wealth tax.
    
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    January 26, 2023 10:19pm
Swifty

In mid-Feb 2021 I wrote this on here:

“ A quick point about NZ’s inexorable increase in the size, reach and cost of government and a prediction for the future.

Since 1984-90, I have many times had occasion to discuss the Labour reforms with people and how we’re going today compared with if they hadn’t happened.

Very briefly, I am of the firm view that overall they had a positive effect and that, contrary to some New Zealanders views, they were a necessary antidote to the decades of protectionism, subsidisation, inefficiency, cementing of privilege, government control, excessive regulation and legislation that had been built up by successive over the preceding decades.

Some New Zealanders ‘blame’ Roger Douglas for the disruption and pain that followed the reforms and many subsequent Labour politicians have, hypocritically in my view, disavowed the reforms while simultaneously doing little or nothing to reverse them. They know we’re better off now but they think they improve their electoral chances by lying and saying the opposite.

If blame is to be accorded for the pain we went through I am of the firm view that it lies squarely with the politicians, unions, industry leaders, crony-capitalists and others who, over decades, actively built the goddam mess that Labour inherited in 1984.

Roger Douglas, and his mates, was the doctor not the disease.

Everywhere I now look I see the same thing happening all over again. History is repeating.

This current generation of Labour politicians, abetted by their Green fellow travellers, are re-establishing the same or similar protections, distortions, subsidisations, granting of privileges, controls and interventions that have no place in the economy that New Zealand deserves.

An exaggeration Swifty, you ask?

Well, let’s see.

Who would have thought just a few years ago that Labour would take the great leap backwards to the 1970s and reintroduce tripartite wage bargaining. That in setting wages and conditions, company owners will now have to negotiate and reach a consensus with both government and unions and across their whole industry?

Bye bye the free market.

Who would have thought just a few years ago that Labour would now directly fund media companies. – a development no other political party is likely to challenge in fear of a wide-spread media backlash (proving the conflict of interest that the funding creates)?

Who would have thought that the government would have expanded it’s reach, scope and size so massively that for the first time in our country’s history central government spending is now more than 50% of our GDP?

Who would have just a few years ago forseen the explosion in the numbers of Ministries, NGOs, working groups and consultation bodies that we’ve seen?

Who would have foreseen that the government would bring in rules requiring that companies tendering for government work must have ‘diversity and inclusion plans and officers’, and demonstrate their success at implementing same or they won’t get a sniff of any work on offer? These companies might have the best products or services and at the best price in the world but these will be denied to New Zealanders because the companies fell short on diversity and inclusion indoctrination.

On the social side, who would have thought even 5-10 years ago that we would be facing a majority government hell-bent it seems on criminalising New Zealanders speaking with each other about things a similar period in the past would be absolutely normal and healthy conversations?

Who would have thought an organisation as august as our Human Rights Commission in launching an enquiry into an apparent racial pay gap and before their investigations have even started claiming that not only does it exist but that the cause is racial discrimination by European-New Zealanders and that they are determined to stamp it out?

I could go on and on.

This mission creep by our government, this endless enlargement of government meddling in our lives; law, rule and regulation-making to dictate how we live our lives; this relentless call by politicians and others for the government to increase it’s number, breadth and depth of its functions, I say will end in tears.

I don’t know when; it maybe 10, 15 or 20 years away but there will come a correction. I hope there will be a correction. And when that ‘corrector’ comes let’s do the honest thing and not blame him or her for the pain that comes – let’s reserve our blame, anger and opprobrium for the politicians, unions, do-gooders, media and crony-capitalists of TODAY; the ones who actively created the conditions for the correction to be required.”

Will National and ACT now be the ‘corrector’ the country desperately needs?
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January 26, 2023 1:47pm
- Taieri
  
  This mission creep by our government, this endless enlargement of government meddling in our lives; law, rule and regulation-making to dictate how we live our lives; this relentless call by politicians and others for the government to increase it’s number, breadth and depth of its functions
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  And who makes it possible?
  
  Us, the voters…
  
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  January 26, 2023 3:41pm
  - Swifty
    
    I quite agree.
    
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    January 26, 2023 4:13pm
Maggie Pie

Just been fliking between Woman’s Doubles and SkyNews.

Heard someone call Anthony Albanese….”eggs over easy”

LOL!!!
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January 26, 2023 2:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/what-will-it-be-like-living-under-tribal-rule-dr-john-robinson/#comment-935

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/living-under-tribal-rule-John-Robinson-plus-blog-template.pdf

18 pages.
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January 26, 2023 3:09pm
All_on_Red

This will make Steve Otto’s day
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/01/25/breaking-meta-to-allow-trump-back-on-facebook-n1665107
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January 26, 2023 3:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Thanks, but I know. Jump on Facebook and search Donald J Trump,
  Then look at the groups – it is yuge.
  
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  January 26, 2023 4:25pm
Hugh Jarse

I wonder when Chippie will get sick of Jacinda getting all the attention and demand the media feature him or maybe he is happy to have them distracted in that direction while he works out what to do ?
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January 26, 2023 3:16pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Don’t worry. He’ll soon be featuring regularly on the cover of The Men’s Weekly.
  
  Wait, what?
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:36pm
Ghost

Hmmm, so the boy was waving around a knife and threatening police. Sounds like he is lucky they only tasered him

A witness to an incident resulting in a claim a 10-year-old boy was tasered by police alleges authorities were initially called because a woman was wandering the main street threatening to stab a man.

A woman claiming to be a relative of the boy made the allegation on social media and in messages to the Herald, providing a picture of a plaster on a torso and an ACC form showing a claim for a 10-year-old with the cause of injury listed as “taser fired by police”.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/i-was-concerned-rotorua-witness-describes-ugly-situation-leading-up-to-claim-10yo-was-tasered-by-police/VWD7UHETCRFHTGBTQJBB7ERJMQ/
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January 26, 2023 3:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Be kind, from a non-NZ source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc6mI-wG-0o
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January 26, 2023 4:03pm
Maggie Pie

When I heard them say Winston Peters was coming on ZB at 3:30 to answer some questions, I thort, ‘well, this could be interesting’

Should have known better. All that pair of woke clowns asked was….

“Who he’d LEAST like to sit next to on a plane? What his fave song was? Name a LIVING person you’d like to have dinner with?” And when he answered the last question “Nelson Mandela”, they didn’t even pull him up!

Nothing about when he was going to repay the 160k? SHEESH!!
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January 26, 2023 4:33pm
- septic skeptic
  
  My guess is that Winston insists on writing his own questions for the interviewer. Sean Plunket was also pretty soft in his recent interview.
  
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  January 26, 2023 4:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Keystone.
https://billingsreport.com/quietly-released-energy-dept-report-admits-bidens-mistake-in-canceling-keystone-xl-pipeline-shows-economic-benefits/
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January 26, 2023 4:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Bottom line is Joe does not want US citizens to have jobs.
  He wants them to be welfare dependent = same as NZ
  
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  January 26, 2023 4:36pm
Suze Wainwright

I guess a problem with Ardern being a ‘superstar’ overseas, is that if she does end up taking any one of these tempting offers that will supposedly be flooding her way, the longer she stays in any one place will see inevitable truths coming out.

Maybe being a perpetually roving Queen of Hearts Goodwill Ambassador is the only viable option…
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January 26, 2023 4:34pm
- DeepBlue
  
  I believe the handover to Chippy has been so well thought through that Ardern will already have a role in trade or international affairs to ensure her picture and international successes pop up in the ladies’ magazines until the election.
  
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  January 26, 2023 5:05pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Wonder what her next role will be?
    Spokesperson for:
    – Pfizer?
    – Confucius Institute?
    – WHO?
    -Big Tech censorship division – Google, Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok etc?
    
    Other suggestions?
    
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    January 26, 2023 5:34pm
    - Mark Hanley
      
      CCO for the Maori King
      Middle manager in Mahuta Corp
      Road cone ambassador
      5 waters purchasing officer.
      
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      January 26, 2023 7:19pm
Lance

I just saw a YouTube video by a body language expert commenting on Cindy’s resignation speech.
He concludes she really really didn’t want to resign but had to for some reason. Her facial expressions and body shifting were at odds with what she was saying.
Makes me curious
Here is the link for anyone interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rrv9qRHZ24
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January 26, 2023 4:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Top marks. Jaspinda will not like this, if she ever sees it.
  
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  January 26, 2023 5:55pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  [Mod – deleted, you can stop trying to post this rumour now]
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:26pm
Maggie Pie

Listening to Barry Soper before.
Anyone else like me who thinks all these figures the government comes up with, like The OCR, CPI, GDP, M1 Money Supply, Tradable-Inflation, Non-Tradable Inflation, etc, etc….are nothing more than a load of shite that Robbo just makes up in his head to confuse the populace and keep people under control?
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January 26, 2023 5:08pm
- Ian Boag
  
  What sort of numbers would you understand Mags?
  
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  January 26, 2023 6:21pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well, I’ve got various accounts at 3 different banks in Auckland and one in Syd.
    I could tell you the balances in every one at any time without even going onto the net.
    
    How bout you Boggsie?
    
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    January 26, 2023 6:33pm
    - Mike
      
      Ian probably has more real money than Maggie Pie’s imaginary money.
      
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      January 26, 2023 7:26pm
  - Ghost
    
    How many bottles of wine are in the cellar 🍷
    
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    January 26, 2023 6:36pm
    - H. Upmann
      
      Right now?
      One less than this time yesterday.
      
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      January 26, 2023 7:31pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Fiddled the figures, why are we told they are borrowing a billion a week yet we are only just below 3 billion in the red after 5 months? if his figures are right, then Luxon will not need to cut many billion to be in the black and the tax cuts will be on
  
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  January 26, 2023 10:24pm
NothingLeft

What’s the bet Kieran McAnulty is sick of being called out by his constituents for screwing over his ex, and is manufacturing an excuse to not have to talk to them in public? Gotta screen out and avoid the critics (like Ardern).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/minister-to-stop-holding-mobile-offices-in-his-electorate-due-to-death-threats/4HR2PYU4XBHTXF7UXFV6EOVAFA/
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January 26, 2023 5:27pm
NothingLeft

Why boys and men are struggling educationally, economically and socially in an increasingly gynocentric world. 15 minutes, worth a watch. https://youtu.be/DBG1Wgg32Ok
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January 26, 2023 5:51pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Democrats waking up? They finally get the picture.
Candace Owens has said and written about BLEXIT. Black lives exit. Leaving the Plantation is now a big thing.
https://quicknewsupdates.com/joe-biden-crushed-by-bombshell-report/
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January 26, 2023 6:02pm
- tf78
  
  Biden’s been hit by more bombshells than Ukraine.
  
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  January 26, 2023 8:17pm
NZer In Exile

Sky News Australia’s Rita Panahi interviews NZ lawyer: ‘Notion’ of Jacinda Ardern’s kindness is ‘completely ridiculous’

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/rita-panahi/notion-of-jacinda-arderns-kindness-is-completely-ridiculous/video/261fca50cb911f507922cc2cacf3d404

Kind of looks a mixture of arrogance and poor judgement were the more pertinent factors.
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January 26, 2023 6:13pm
Bridgenag

A must watch …… urgent before it gets “disappeared”

https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/bombshell-new-project-veritas-video?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Undercover reporter talks to Pfizer executive admits to virus engineering
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January 26, 2023 7:19pm
- Surely Knott
  
  It’s now on daily mail as well. It currently has over 9 million views. Interesting.
  
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  January 26, 2023 11:01pm
Maggie Pie

Lower Hutt’s serial-flasher was thinking of retiring….but he’s decided to stick it out for another year.
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January 26, 2023 7:53pm
MCōs

Jacinda can check out any time she likes
But she can never leave Kiwiblog
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January 26, 2023 8:37pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How can I not uptick that? Well done.
  
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