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mikenmildagain

Has it really been ten years since we lost the inimitable genius that was Gerry Andersen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfIAKj3Gl1E
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December 26, 2022 8:00am
- Stellaboxer
  
  Yes a great man who made fantastic entertainment. My favourite is UFO.
  
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  December 26, 2022 8:21am
  - Mike
    
    A truly iconic series of my childhood and much underrated.
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:47am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I mostly saw Thunderbirds and Stingray. Always wanted to watch UFO and Captain Scarlett but they never seemed to be on.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:44am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Try you tube they’re all on there
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:23am
  - 7kiwi11
    
    Captain Scarlet was quite creepy when I was a kid. It was a bit darker than the other shows. I love how the characters often had a cigarette in one hand and a drink in the other. You don’t see that in the modern animated Thunderbirds of course but it does have the requisite diverse characters and an infallible female lead
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:30am
- alan
  
  My 7 year old grandson is mad about Thunderbird’s. Not easy to get the toys now.
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:44am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    alan – I’ve had Thunderbird 2 as my vehicle windscreen decoration for many years! Replaced the fluffy dice……..lol
    
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    December 26, 2022 11:30am
  - Mike
    
    Very collectible now.
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:52pm
Matt Long

https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-diego-porn-fbi-most-wanted-spain
The RH Ardern in illustrious company of kiwis featured in December on Fox news.
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December 26, 2022 8:02am
Matt Long

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/mayor-craig-jepson-hopes-gift-to-councillors-will-provide-alternative-view-of-the-climate-change-issue/3OHKNK3RBBENBOQCGM3AFKTISQ/
Craig Jepson proving himself a worthy leader in Kaipara. The Regressives will have their knives out.
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December 26, 2022 8:06am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  I hope he stands for the Northland electorate in the general election this year.
  
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  December 26, 2022 8:17am
  - RalphT
    
    This year? Yesterday was Christmas, not New Year’s Day, 2023 doesn’t start until 1 January.
    
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    December 26, 2022 8:23am
  - NK
    
    Why would he do that and be captured by Labour lite and told to play the party lines and to not upset anybody. No. He’s in the perfect political position where he is. People like him have no impact at a national level. That’s the biggest problem with this country.
    
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    December 26, 2022 8:25am
    - pdm
      
      NK – I emailed him supporting his origanal stance on Karakia – I hope more Kiwbloggers will do so too.
      
      mayor@kaipara.govt.nz
      
      Unlike Labour Cabinet Ministers he replied within a couple of days.
      
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      December 26, 2022 8:41am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        pdm – same here, got 2 emails back. One wishing me Merry Xmas and one thanking me for my support.
        
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        December 26, 2022 11:33am
      - Mike H S
        
        I emailed support for his karakia stand. I got a response within 10 minutes and also got a Christmas best wishes email from him.
        
        I shall email my support on his book selection plus another suggestion for him to look at.
        
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        December 26, 2022 7:44pm
    - peterwn
      
      This is the big political dilemma. The National Party suffered up to and after the 2020 election because some of its MP’s did not accept the leadership, leaked (undermining the leader and fellow MP’s) and went off on frolics of their own. So Chris Luxon had to obtain the general consensus of all of his MP’s before he could make any sort of progress. Also the Labour Party would just love it if National swung to the right as some people on Kiwiblog and elsewhere want. Such a shift would effectively gift the centre vote to Labour/ Greens.
      So any new National MP needs to breathe through his/her nose for the first three years (Keith Holyoake’s advice), find out how Parliament works (Jonathan Hunt’s advise when Speaker – his political enemies regarded him as a ‘very capable prick’) and make a positive contribution to Parliament’s work – initially through Select Committee membership including researching and getting on top of the Committee’s work.
      I recently met an extroverted guy who aimed to be a National candidate and he asked me how the Board was appointed etc (he presumably thought he could lobby Board members and/or influence their appointments). I asked him if he had done the NATIONAL101 on line course and he had not (presumably implying he was above that). In the past he may have successfully BS-ed his way into candidacy, but nowadays he would have far less chance with that. Hopefully National will have fewer ‘failure’ MP’s (eg the likes of Mark Blumsky, Jami Lee-Ross, the one who claimed he was mugged in Molesworth St years ago, etc) in the future.
      
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      December 26, 2022 9:05am
      - leoj
        
        Labour/Greens equals the centre?
        
        You cannot be serious.
        
        A President of International Socialist Youth running from the middle?
        
        New Zealand needs a major correction back to the right or we are doomed to be Zimbabwe.
        
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        December 26, 2022 9:37am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Yes, I am sick yo death of these fools rubbishing the Nats for straddling the centre, all MMP elections have been won in the centre, you would think these fools would have picked up on this after nearly 30 years of MMP
        
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        December 26, 2022 9:39am
      - Ghost
        
        Yeah, no right or left party will win without the centre vote. Want national to go more right you’ll have labour remain in power
        
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        December 26, 2022 9:45am
      - artemisia
        
        Of course National and ACT are quietly talking. There will be give and take and who’s to say each party will not be (quietly) happy with the outcomes as they target their respective constituencies.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:18am
      - Colville
        
        John Key said it early on… you need to own the center and then try to bring them on a journey to believe in what you believe in BUT you cannot do any of this without being in power so you need to WIN first.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:19am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Reply to G from D. The beef that observant right wingers have with National is not that they campaign on centrist policies. It’s that they campaign as centre-right but govern as centre-left.
        
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        December 26, 2022 12:32pm
      - Matt Long
        
        Just a shame Key went on to lead NZ down the path to co-governance and greenie consciousness, and bound small business in red tape. Was this part of the journey he was seeking to lead the Centr toward?
        Was it a Freudian slip when he said in a Labour party I lead… I will admit his Labour party was very well managed.
        
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        December 26, 2022 12:40pm
  - Matt Long
    
    I’d like to think Matt King would get traction in Northland but I’ll be surprised if Jason Smith hasn’t the nomination for National and the Electorate seat for at least two terms.
    It will probably take that long before people realise that Labour Lite isn’t the answer after all
    
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    December 26, 2022 8:33am
    - Opie
      
      And then they will go back to full labour again for another helping of lack of achievement and money wastage.
      
      You kiwis sure are smart
      
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      December 26, 2022 8:46am
      - Matt Long
        
        Unfortunately true.
        There’s a lot of wishful and magical thinking in political views and the pathological liars and sociopaths take full advantage.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:03am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Agree. Matt King for Northland. MMP doesn’t work if we don’t give fair coverage in the media to some small independent voices.
      
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      December 26, 2022 8:56am
      - peterwn
        
        The biggest problem with MMP is it gives the small independent voices disproportionate power as happened in 2015 after Mr Sabin resigned from Parliament and Winston won that seat (which admitted the next NZF list candidate) thus breaking John Key’s one seat absolute majority. If it were not for that episode John may have had a fourth term and Covid would have been handled far more competently.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:54am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      King is not showing up in any polling anywhere, he is not in the media, he is not been seen in the community, I realise he has done a large amount of meetings around the country, but it doesn’t look like he is getting any traction, first polls in the new year will tell us all, if he doesn’t show, he will be done
      
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      December 26, 2022 9:41am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      The Northland candidate selection is coming up early in the New Year. Numerically, Northland has more National Party members than any electorate in the country, with a significant increase in membership in the past year. The local members will have full control over the selection and those seeking the nomination will have to impress a large number of party members/delegates to get the nod.
      
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      December 26, 2022 10:42am
      - pdm
        
        Do you know when Tukituki is Inv and if it is imminent who the main contenders are?
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I hope he stays exactly where he is. If he moves on the Kaipara Maori will claim a win, saying he is running away!
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:34am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Realist: The problem is being completely overblown. Here, check out this book that explains why…
  Alarmist: I’m not reading that, you denier… we need to completely reshape the world!!!
  
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  December 26, 2022 8:22am
- Yvette
  
  False Alarm: How Climate Change Panic Costs Us Trillions, Hurts the Poor, and Fails to Fix the Planet Kindle Edition – by Bjorn Lomborg
  4.7 out of 5 stars 2,150 ratings (4.2 on Goodreads 1,493 ratings)
  
  The New York Times-bestselling “skeptical environmentalist” argues that panic over climate change is causing more harm than good
  Hurricanes batter our coasts. Wildfires rage across the American West. Glaciers collapse in the Artic. Politicians, activists, and the media espouse a common message: climate change is destroying the planet, and we must take drastic action immediately to stop it. Children panic about their future, and adults wonder if it is even ethical to bring new life into the world.
  Enough, argues bestselling author Bjorn Lomborg. Climate change is real, but it’s not the apocalyptic threat that we’ve been told it is. Projections of Earth’s imminent demise are based on bad science and even worse economics. In panic, world leaders have committed to wildly expensive but largely ineffective policies that hamper growth and crowd out more pressing investments in human capital, from immunization to education. – Amazon
  
  “This is a council that’s full of people who are non-religious, religious, of different ethnicities and I intend to run a secular council here which respects everybody and I will not be veering from that. Thank you,” Jepson said on the day in response to Paniora’s attempt.to say a Maori karakia [1]
  
  ■ It is good to see Craig Jepson extending his questioning the validity of te Ao Maori to questioning other “religiously”-held views like the validity of “climate change response”
  
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  [1] Karakia are prayers, chants or incantations often included in Māori ritual and ceremony. They are also used in more informal ways within whānau or by individuals to give thanks or ask for support or direction – Google
  
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  December 26, 2022 8:58am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Common sense is unfortunately uncommon. The unscrupulous easily play the herd.
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:12am
    - Yvette
      
      Alan Wilkinson
      My possibly naive understanding of climate change is that Maggie Thatcher, upset that Welsh miners so regularly welshed on the UK’s coal energy needs, and Middle East kept her oil supplies at the time in continual turmoil, that she wanted to promote nuclear generated power but feared a backlash because nobody yet knew where to put the waste – it was dirty.
      
      “But,” said scientists “fossil fuel is dirtier”
      “Oh,” said Maggie “Here’s funding to research more of that angle – it is a good argument” – so the religion of “Climate Change” was given birth and spreadeth around the earth, and at its core: funding – or more simply: MONEY – the root of all evil.
      
      And now we need people like Craig Jepson, to help sort through all the crap and drain another swap.
      
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      December 26, 2022 9:40am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        I’m not sure that it’s a naïve understanding, but I don’t think it’s correct. Burning coal for energy is undoubtedly bad for the environment, which thatcher was right to acknowledge – think of the infamous pea-souper fogs that London used to suffer from, until they banned burning coal in the greater London area.
        
        Environmental concerns are valid but they have little-to-nothing to do with climate change.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:02am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        If I recall there was a panic about acid rain over Europe from UK coal emissions. Nothing to do with climate change?
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:51am
artemisia

Company’s waste plant plans rejected for second time
Because

A council spokesperson, Hayleigh Brereton, said …. “While the resubmitted application addresses many of the matters raised in the previous version regarding adverse effects of the discharges to air, stormwater and wastewater one critical issue remains ,” …. the council believed a site cultural impact assessment with or by Te Rūnanga o Waihao was required.

Am I the only one to wonder what additional “adverse effects” a cultural report will uncover, and how much money and delay will be involved? And whether the council will then require more information or changes.

This technology might be new-ish to New Zealand but is well established overseas. Maybe they didn’t need race based input.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/481436/company-s-waste-plant-plans-rejected-for-second-time
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December 26, 2022 8:08am
- The Other Enoch
  
  Get used to it. There’s a lot more of this to come.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:05am
- Nickc2
  
  Tell the Council to get fucked and take the matter to an independent court where the Council has to prove Te Rūnanga o Waihao’s report is essential to operational standards of the plant.
  Clearly, it can’t. Maori mythology has no place in the operation of a Waste Plant other than ongoing Koha payments, and that’s a rort!
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:13am
  - Colville
    
    What planet are you from?
    
    If Council has notified iwi that they are an affected party then they are and the applicant just needs to get on with that, you cant just say “no your culture dosent matter”. The Council ruling cant just be ignored. A Court isnt going to be impressed by the applicant standing there with fingers in the eras saying nah nah nah I cant hear you….
    
    However there is an underlying issue. Why were the iwi given affected party status? Was it sensitive land as listed in the district plan? If not then Council needs to look at its process (good luck with that)
    
    Here a marae was given affected party status to a Council building project because that could see the roof of the new building 1.5kms away… so iwi were party to hearing and got paid for that…roof painted in colour approved by iwi…etc etc…
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:42am
    - Taieri
      
      If Council has notified iwi that they are an affected party then they are and the applicant just needs to get on with that
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      Difficult to tell from the way it was presented in the news:
      
      “Brereton said the council believed a site cultural impact assessment with or by Te Rūnanga o Waihao was required.”
      
      https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-canterbury/waimate-waste-plant-rejected-again
      
      Was it required by law or did the council just BELIEVED it was required? Don’t they employ lawyers anymore?
      
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      December 26, 2022 10:10am
    - Nickc2
      
      You’d be struggling to find a Maori that far south wouldn’t you? Oh, that’s right, I forgot the Lost Tribe of Antarctica. //
      
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      December 26, 2022 10:34am
      - Inandout
        
        Nick, that plant would be built on Ngai Tahu tribal land. As if that iwi hasn’t already been richly rewarded by settlements.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:46am
      - Taieri
        
        You’d be struggling to find a Maori that far south
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        There’s a country marae near Morven, just south of Waihao River. So, there must be some users of such a facility living nearby.
        The area population is very small though. Even the local primary school was closed some years ago due to the dwindling roll.
        
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        December 26, 2022 12:15pm
  - artemisia
    
    Maybe not mythology but an Ohau landowner applied for consent to a world class $50mill 18 hole golf course and associated amenities including numerous environmental considerations. The local iwi said no due to a former pa on the land but 9 holes is OK.
    
    Maybe the owner will sell the land off to overseas interests for pine planting carbon credits and do the minimum required for that purpose.
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:05am
    - andydownhere
      
      There are two iwi. The first iwi said no way you can build a golf course there. But after 10 lifetime memberships were given it was suddenly all good. Oh, plus Phil Tautarangi had to design the course. How can they not see that is racist?
      Anyhow, then the 2nd lot of iwi came along….
      have they discovered the pa site, so only 9 holes?
      Or were they only offered 5 lifetime memberships?
      
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      December 26, 2022 9:28pm
- kevn
  
  @Art… Scrap the racial input and watch that waste plant project fly.
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You got it. Same as Nickc2. Too many taniwha.
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:39am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  And economists still can’t figure out why productivity is poor. Ye Gods.
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:53am
  - Nickc2
    
    They should borrow the services of Akld’s and/or Kaipara’s Mayors, that’ll improve productivity out of sight and get rid of all the Maori BS.
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:08pm
Sparrow

As a Kaipara resident I happened to be sitting next to him in a Mangawhai cafe the other week. I should state I did not vote for him. Put simply he is a real “Character ” and it will never be dull when he is around. Its great when you have people like our new mayor in public office you might not agree with their views but they are not like the toothless wonders that generally seat warm councils and governments. Lets hope we have more of them as I said you don’t have to agree with them.
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December 26, 2022 8:20am
Matt Long

I’d like to think Matt King would get traction in Northland but I’ll be surprised .
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December 26, 2022 8:31am
Ghost

Tesla S will not charge in the cold. Stranded on Christmas Eve!
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December 26, 2022 8:42am
- Mike
  
  Elon Musk had better things to do than running Tesla.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:51am
  - 7kiwi11
    
    I watched The Glass Onion last night on Netflix. It can’t be coincidence that billionaire character seems to be based on and a piss take of Musk
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:40am
    - Mike
      
      An easy target to mock.
      
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      December 26, 2022 12:56pm
- Taieri
  
  Couldn’t open your link.
  
  There’s another problem with EVs in the frosty weather – the energy drain due to the necessity of keeping correct temperature of the batteries in parked vehicles. Wonder how they get around this one in the Nordic countries?
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:52am
Odakyu-sen

Who had trifle for breakfast?
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December 26, 2022 8:45am
- Sideoiler
  
  Me!
  I will be having it for morning tea and lunch, quite possibly afternoon tea and likeley a bit for desert this evening.
  Is it possible to get trifle poisoning? asking for a friend.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I made too much….
  I expect the ducks are going to eat well tomorrow evening.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:44am
  - Mike
    
    Does that fatten them well for the table?
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:52am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I will forget that I ever read that sentence.
      
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      December 26, 2022 10:18am
  - david
    
    Careful Maggie, if the trifle is at all alcoholic you will have PETA hanging around your neck like a drunken albatross (just to mix the metaphors up a bit) for duck abuse.
    
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    December 26, 2022 3:45pm
Tony Stuart

Who gave the order for Police to restrict access to an Auckland beach yesterday because of crowd numbers? Is this a core policing role? Shouldn’t our Police be out catching real criminals instead of preventing law-abiding New Zealanders going about their lawful business by going to the beach?

So many questions, but I won’t hold my breath awaiting answers. On the face of it, this seems to be a massive overreach by the Police. But it’s also indicative of Labour’s arse-about-face policing priorities where gangs run rampant whilst everyday, law-abiding Kiwis are increasingly being targeted for attention.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/people-turned-away-from-popular-auckland-beach-on-christmas-as-it-reaches-capacity/4ASKMS7P7VHBNEFHDAVWOLOPDM/
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December 26, 2022 8:54am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Gotta wonder what would have happened to anybody who ignored the police and behaved like there were no capacity limits.
  Has anybody _ever_ seen a single sign anywhere in NZ that indicated there was a capacity limit on a beach?
  I can’t be the only person wondering if there was a ‘co-governance’ aspect to this new limit being enforced by the police. I mean, there not really _our_ beaches are they? /s
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:00am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No sarc. Your last paragraph tells it all.
    Someone ‘influenced the woke Police.
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:43am
- Ghost
  
  Here is a little bit from when the beaches were opening under Covid restrictions, so guessing it is the council or life guards that do it
  
  SLSNR has been working with Auckland Council’s Safeswim programme to help manage numbers.
  
  “If we take a really popular beach like Muriwai – if those numbers start getting really high, higher than we’re comfortable with lockdown restrictions, we’re able to pass that information onto the Safeswim website, which will put up a notice to say ‘Muriwai is currently at capacity guys. Let’s try swimming somewhere else’,” Williams says.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300435215/covid19-your-beach-holiday-is-going-to-look-different-this-summer
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:02am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    That would be fine if we were operating under COVID restrictions, but there currently are none as regards public spaces.
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:13am
    - Colville
      
      TS while I have no desire to side with plod on this issue I would have sympathy for the life guards trying to keep drunk people from drowning on a packed beach…
      
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      December 26, 2022 9:48am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Darwin. Stop trying to “save” everybody from everything. Personal responsibility is disappearing and it keeps morons like Ardern in power. Make people feel as though they need protected and powerless and we get more “woke”, more lockdowns for everything including climate, more speed restrictions.
        A “safety” monster has been created and it isn’t going away on it’s own. Ignore these muppets. Take responsibility for you and yours.
        
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        December 26, 2022 11:43am
- Surely Knott
  
  Agree. Who called this illegal beach closure. Total bullshit. And where do the planners expect people to have large family gatherings? If Auckland allows the building of 100’s of thousands of apartment blocks and townhouses with no backyards, of course people are going to have more need to use our public space to have large family gatherings. Have they planned for the capacity.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:02am
  - 7kiwi11
    
    We used to spend a peaceful Christmas day in Cornwall Park for many years. It is now so crowded and noisy with every other family bringing large portable speakers that it is no longer pleasant
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:46am
    - Hollyfield
      
      My family’s initial plan had been to go to Cornwall Park yesterday, a park that we have visited regularly for decades. However we decided to go “somewhere different” and less crowded, and went to Monte Cecilia Park. Not as big as Cornwall Park, but big enough for a family picnic in a quiet spot, and a walk after lunch. There were many small groups also picnicking, but no loudspeakers and no raucous behaviour to intrude on others’ enjoyment of the park.
      
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      December 26, 2022 11:36am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Surely Knott – the WEF have it all sorted out, we’ll all be confined to our own “zones”. I believe they are called “fifteen minute cities”.
    
    https://search.brave.com/search?q=15+minute+city&source=web
    
    They are already being implemented in the UK. Oxford is restricting people’s ability to travel beyond their own “zone”. Fines are issued if you are caught. We are being herded.
    This article is apparently “debunking” the claim that is is a climate lockdown policy. Have a read, I think it confirms that it is happening.
    
    https://www.oxfordshirelive.co.uk/news/oxfordshire-news/oxfordshire-county-council-respond-viral-7900897
    
    The technocrats are moving to the next stage. Most people are the frogs who haven’t even noticed the initial change in temperature.
    
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    December 26, 2022 11:50am
- Tomtoddy
  
  Under what law are they operating?? Sounds like more of the ‘control creep’ that is happing in Godzone.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:04am
- The Other Enoch
  
  The big question here is all about priorities. We hear so much about how police are under resourced. Yet they have the time and personal to do this?
  
  The second question is. On who’s authority?
  
  Lastly, the police can only police if they can retain the confidence of the wider population, not the government of the day. With Cuddles Coster at the helm I feel that we are heading towards a tipping point. It might be some way off but, nevertheless, the journey has started.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:18am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Remember when the police went undercover as intersection windscreen washers to catch people using their cellphones?
    
    https://www.theedge.co.nz/home/scandal/2022/10/nz-police-have-been-spotted-dressesed-as-window-washers-to-catch-drivers-on-their-phones.html
    
    Apparently they are only under resourced for the hard jobs, plenty of staff for the revenue gathering and party pooping it would seem.
    
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    December 26, 2022 11:54am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Remember when the police would baton charge protestors on Moleworth Street instead of letting them ~~shit~~sit on parliament grounds?
      
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      December 26, 2022 2:28pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Remember when lefty idiots didn’t hijack everything?
        
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        December 26, 2022 2:43pm
- pdm
  
  Inv I see the police are also dictating what people should drink. At the end of the article in your link that alcohol and water do not mix.
  
  What the hell else is one going to put with their whisky if they do not like it neat.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Exactly. Who wants to spoil their whisky with a girlie drink?
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:47am
  - Colville
    
    ice?
    
    Its neat at the start and a little dilute at the end…
    
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    December 26, 2022 9:49am
    - Mike
      
      Why would you want to cool, or dilute, a perfectly good whisky?
      
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      December 26, 2022 9:54am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I have mine with ice Mike. I use a sherry glass. Means less trips to the fridge and liquor cabinet.
        I also have whisky stones but they don’t last long.
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:18am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        I could not agree more Mike. When we were in the Highlands a few years ago we visited The Glenlivet distillery. At tasting time, we were told in no uncertain times that ice was verboten; it stops the whisky’s flavour developing as it sits in the glass. If one did not want to drink their whisky neat, the suggestion was a few DROPS of water, and no more.
        
        It’s advice I took on board. I now drink my single malt exactly as it comes from the bottle, and it never fails to warm my insides!
        
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        December 26, 2022 10:47am
      - Colville
        
        Depends what it is but Santa brought me a 15yr Red Breast that I am looking forward to trying and I would expect that to be straight from the bottle…
        
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        December 26, 2022 11:55am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Most good single malts are better with a small amount of water, added a few drops at a time until you get it right. Especially cask strength editions where the high alchohol produces a burning sensation.
        JW red label and similar are better suited to ice, Coke and Ginger Ale.
        
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        December 26, 2022 12:52pm
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, Administration of the Long Bay reserve is Akld Council’s responsibility and if the Reserve was overcrowded, they should employ their own resources, not Police.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:22am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not overcrowded. It is huge. Just over half the size of Orewa.
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:19am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Does Long Bay still have the one lane bridge for access? If it does, I can imagine the traffic jams and frustration would have been awful as only one vehicle can enter/exit at a time. I think it would have been a traffic issue rather than the actual beach being over crowded.
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The co-governance culprits testing the waters?
  Long Bay is a huge beach, the horrid photo shows it as much smaller than it is.
  I think the restrictions did not come from a people count, but a vehicle count. Parking is always fairly restricted. I think the parking was full. Once again, a bloody Council problem.
  Then the Police get in on the cat about alcohol. We are not all fucking pissheads. Some drink responsibly. Swim between the flags. Bullshit. In 50 plus years on the Shore I have never seen flags or lifeguards on that beach, unless it was just started. And here is the thing, the is NO BLOODY RIP in that bit of sea! Muriwai beach has undertows.
  “They also advised avoiding alcohol when diving, swimming or boating.” It is not a diving or boating beach, it is too flat. I am a boatie. Fuck! There is no boat ramp. Sure there are dinghys used at the Sir Peter Blake Marine Education & Recreation Centre at the south end.
  ‘We did not want to annoy Gang Pads today, so we though we would just go to the beach and annoy peaceful people’ Cuddles Coster.//
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Police get in on the ACT*
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:52pm
- Interested Party
  
  I live in an apartment a few hundred metre away and up from the park. It’s a great park and beach. Often in the weekends it gets busy, they have overflow paddocks for car parks. It’s hundreds of metres long with heaps of grass areas , bbqs, pagolas, playgrounds etc. I’d agree with the cops, basically they are probably saying there is absolutely no where in the area for you to park your car – so full. I’m away at present so didn’t see it in person
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:31am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    That was my thought too. Once the car parks are full there’s going to be trouble with people getting blocked in and losing it.
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:57am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Then the cops could do themselves and all of us a favour and say it like it is instead of talking in riddles.
    
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    December 26, 2022 11:57am
    - Ghost
      
      Journalists could do their job and ask questions instead of just printing a police press release
      
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      December 26, 2022 12:01pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    To open the overflow paddocks you would have to find the senior keyholder to remove the chains. Find that person on Christmas Day?
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:59pm
- Inandout
  
  TS, was the beach this crowded?
  https://i.pinimg.com/originals/37/2d/61/372d617714005186766fb098ea6c6d35.jpg
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:51am
  - Lummox
    
    Where is that?
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:20pm
    - Inandout
      
      Rio de Janeiro.
      
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      December 26, 2022 1:21pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Have to ask, ‘where do all of those people go to the toilet?’
        OK, never mind…..
        
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        December 26, 2022 3:41pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is crowded LOL. And there is a rip there.
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:57pm
- JamesP
  
  As others have noted, that car park becomes a predictable cluster once too many cars are in it. This makes disorder (road rage) likely and also a danger to life by obstructing access to emergency vehicles in the case of a medical event. S35 of the Policing Act authorises a temporary road closure in such circumstances. Which is what I suspect happened.
  
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  December 26, 2022 11:33am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Yeah, but that’s not what the Police said.
    
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    December 26, 2022 4:49pm
- Scooter
  
  Is this the start of the restrictions under 3/5Waters, limiting and or charging for access to beaches?
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:09pm
kevn

@Tony… Someone with a bit of clout would have ‘complained’.
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December 26, 2022 9:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It’s one of those permanently ‘offended’ bastards again. Of course nobody will ever know who.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Oh lookie, 5 downticks. I have offended 5 bastards! LOL.
    I promise I will not do it again.
    WOT? A lie? Well if Jaspinda lies many times daily, I can throw in a porkie.
    
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    December 26, 2022 3:45pm
Alan Wilkinson

So we have a whole motorway extension in limbo because the Govt won’t pay the costs of its lockdown:
https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300769965/hundreds-of-millions-in-contractors-claims-delay-aucklands-holiday-highway
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December 26, 2022 9:18am
- Matt Long
  
  Maybe they don’t plan to open the motorway at all Alan, because climate change.
  We have to nudge people out of cars.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:55am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Stuff still calling it a holiday highway when it is busy every day of the week with a huge amount of freight transport.
    
    Left slogans trump reality until it bites back.
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Claims caused by 5 weeks of Covid lockdowns.
  Jaspinda has no bloody idea of what she and her stupid control rule have cost this Country. This is just a small example of what she has done while fucking over NZ.
  $100M over budget and 7 months past completion date. What a joke NZ is.
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:31am
  - Paulus
    
    Paka Peka /Otaki bypass is now open at last.
    Thanks National for another road completed.
    
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    December 26, 2022 1:33pm
    - andydownhere
      
      Transmission Gully, Kapiti Expressway, PekaPeka to Otaki. all linked up now. Remember local Labour MP Darren Hughes was lwading a march against them. And Phil Twyford and Julie-anne Genter did their best to stall them. Steven Joyce should get a knighthood. It was his vision that got this done.
      
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      December 26, 2022 10:49pm
- MCōs
  
  The contractors are claiming $280mil, which they say is related to delays caused by the five weeks that Auckland was in level 4 lockdown in 2021, which were outside the contractors’ control.
  That’s not an inconsequential amount of money.
  The government can’t just write out a blank chequer.
  It has to be gone over line by line and each item justified.
  
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  December 26, 2022 12:08pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Yes, but they’ve had since May to do the “line-by-line” thing. Its simply more total incompetence to remedy a situation caused by the govt.’s own stupidity.
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Govt can and do write blank cheques when it suits them.
    Just recently over $200M for another Tribe topup.
    
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    December 26, 2022 1:03pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It was two tribes, Tainui and Ngai Tahu.
      
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      December 26, 2022 3:51pm
Taieri

Great stuff from Amazon:

“We would very much like to discuss opportunities we see for fine-tuning New Zealand’s policy settings that can support public sector cloud technology enablement”

So now Amazon wants to join you-know-who in “fine tuning” NZ policy settings. Wonder what next? At least the you-know-who are Kiwis.

And in the meantime…

The Crime Minister is too busy to meet with the local cloud computing people. Visiting another kindy perhaps?

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/what-amazon-wanted-ardern
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December 26, 2022 10:05am
- peterwn
  
  I think she recognises that there are sovereignty and other issues at stake. There are perfectly good data centres in NZ and Oz owned by NZ and Oz companies that the Government can use. Using them is a no brainer so she does not really need to meet them. Anyway when politicians start putting their stick beaks into procurement decisions, there is nothing but trouble. So she and her advisers would seem to have the sense not to meet with them, but allow them to offer their services on merit.
  
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  December 26, 2022 11:02am
  - Taieri
    
    Using them is a no brainer so she does not really need to meet them.
    ———–
    
    A visit, perhaps not necessarily by the PM but by the relevant Minister, would signal support for the local enterprise, paying NZ taxes and employing NZ labour.
    
    Other interesting things are happening though. Move Logistics, a NZ Stock Exchange listed company availed themselves to $10 million Government subsidy intended for re-vitalisation of NZ coastal shipping. They spent this money to purchase a second hand general cargo vessel, which is registered in Vanuatu and is to trade in Trans-Tasman trade, crewed by the Filipino crew. The single ship company set up for this venture is incorporated in Singapore. The mystery is, why should the NZ taxpayer subsidize a private venture of this kind?
    
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    December 26, 2022 12:02pm
- wilderbeast
  
  Ardern looks to have played this well so far, I hope she does realise there are sovereignty matters at stake. It’s only recently, probably post covid, that I’ve seen how real the risk of big tech, big pharma, WEF, global climate change agreements etc on domestic policy. I’m a firm believer that NZ should do what’s best for NZ, and if that sounds insular I’d note that there is a natural check and balance in place anyway – if we attempt to swim against the whole global tide we’ll go bust anyway. But that doesn’t mean we should just roll over on every front
  
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  December 26, 2022 12:09pm
Alan Wilkinson

I see that the RB is probably going to impose a debt to income ratio limit on house loans in an effort to reduce house prices but exempting new builds. So even in the unlikely event it is successful in reducing prices the consequence will be that new build owners will have negative equity. Brilliant.

How about instead just taking an axe to the bureaucracy that makes new builds expensive and let the market work?
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December 26, 2022 11:11am
Diogenes

Hopefully to lighten your day, some random thoughts on getting older:

I used to worry about keeping up with the Joneses. Now I worry about keeping up with the laundry.

We once had a voice-activated, kick-start, belt-driven washing machine. Then he left home.

There are weeds in my garden that I am convinced are not known to science.

My daughter once asked me: “Daddy, were you in the ark?” “No, dear,” I replied. “Then why didn’t you drown?”

Each morning I do my exercises when I wake. “Up, down; up, down,” I go. “Now the other eyelid.”
I go for a run round the block; then put the block back under the bed and reset the alarm.

My big decision is what to do for the day. Should I relax, or just laze? Be indolent, laid back, or take it easy? I used to think I was indecisive, but now I’m not so sure.

My back goes out more often than I do. If I bend down to pick something up, I ask myself, “What else can I do while I’m down here?”

My children ask me, why don’t you act your age? How can I. I’ve never been this old before!

But I’ll have you know that I’ve still got it. I just can’t remember where I put it.
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December 26, 2022 11:22am
- Don Beckett
  
  Yes, its a wierd feeling being the same age as old people. 😆
  
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  December 26, 2022 11:51am
- Bridgenag
  
  Love you
  
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  December 26, 2022 1:50pm
ClanMcleod

Zerohedge posted some funny tweets as a break from the horrendous news prevailing the last couple of years.
I wasn’t sure if this was funny or really concerning.

This is who got a standing ovation and a $47B check from Congress yesterday

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1606056679002361856?s=20&t=J50gXF7P3xmjXAXidDv3vA
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December 26, 2022 12:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/why-the-waitangi-tribunal-is-a-farce-part-2/
The Waitangi Tribunal is a rort and must be terminated.
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/The-Waitangi-Tribunal-Is-a-Farce-Part-2.pdf
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December 26, 2022 12:03pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I am guessing this is the report.
  https://waitangitribunal.govt.nz/news/
  Nearly 2000 pages:
  https://forms.justice.govt.nz/search/Documents/WT/wt_DOC_192668456/Te%20Raki%20W.pdf
  
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  December 26, 2022 12:43pm
- Cassandra
  
  He also spelt it farse which may be Freudian. Or even a typo.
  
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  December 26, 2022 1:36pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I reckon it is correct. Go to the website and check.
    I have been wrong before….
    
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    December 26, 2022 3:53pm
Ra Henare

Kiwis are continuing to be bombarded with Propaganda!!

Are we surprised?

This mornings Herald Article
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/russia-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-faces-humiliating-reality-and-political-ruin/WPRLW7EM7RBKTNXWR4ZKIXSLE4/

An nother Aussie Fearmonger stirring the pot to get an article published?
Along with an Editor who didn’t bother to do any fact checking?

How many times have we been bombarded with anti Russian Pro Ukrainian BS.

Even the President of the European Union admitted that Ukraine have suffered 100,000 military dead! Even tho the PR team immediately swung in to action to blow smoke on that fact.

How many times now have Western Media Proclaimed that Russia is loosing, committing atrocities, war crimes etc.

While at the same time lauding the Ukrainians. Who seem to have absorbed Billions of dollars and propped up the US Military Industrial Complex.
Yes they who are the beneficiaries of prolonging this conflict at the expense of Ukrainian lives and destruction of their country.

I pine for the good old days when there was half a chance that NZ media gave a balanced view of things.

Thank goodness for the internet and alternate sources of information.
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December 26, 2022 12:04pm
- Cinematic
  
  Expect another substantial loss of territory for the Russians over the next month. Aside from nukes Russia is no longer a superpower.
  
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  December 26, 2022 12:17pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Haha. Cinematic. You just self identified as being a believer in the western Propaganda.
    
    I guess you also believe the Woke things going around.
    Ergo 127 different genders.
    Maori are oppressed
    All males are rapists
    Brown good, white bad.
    
    I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of choice. So believe whatever you want to believe.
    
    I have $100 to say your believe that Russians will have a substantial loss of territory in the next month.
    Will turn out to be wrong on so many levels.
    
    Enjoy you day.
    
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    December 26, 2022 2:13pm
    - kowtow
      
      RH
      
      While I entirely agree we are subject to a huge amount of pro Ukr propaganda and anti Putin stuff in the western media there’s no denying the Ivans have been really shit in their invasion.
      
      First they tried a lightning strike at Kyev to seize the govt/country and invaded on a number of fronts . That was a disaster and they pulled out to concentrate on securing the southern provinces . Then they collapsed in the NE bit of the south as well as having to retreat off the west bank of the Dnieper. Now they’re engaged in a meatgrinder at Backmut.
      
      It can’t be said to be going well for them.
      
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      December 26, 2022 3:28pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Sort of reminds one of the US Military as well.
        IRAQ? Tried overwhelming force, all over by XMAS…….how did that turn out
        AFGANISTAN, took over to bounce the Taliban, 20 years later gave it back to the Taliban.
        
        War is sorta like that.
        KT, I guess you have missed the part about 100,000 Ukrainian dead and them using NATO artillery to keep bombarding Civilian targets in the Donbass. Civilian death count ther in excess of 15,000.
        
        Etc Etc.
        
        War is invented by politicians!!!
        Thats why it never goes to plan.
        
        Who walked away from peace talks back in April when a deal was all but signed.
        Surely a Visit by Boris Johnson a proxy for the USA, visit the day before expected signing couldnt possibly be the reason that caused the death of countless numbers of troops in Ukraine.
        
        At the same time as the US Military & NATO wanted to use up some dated military equipment, especially ammunition which has a use by date.
        
        AND an opportunity to test Russian military operations and equipment without loosing ONE Allied(NATO or US) military lives.
        
        I really just want both sides of the story.
        
        NOT the BS pumped out by Western Intelligence/propoganda machines which is dutifully regurgitated by compliant MSM
        
        Sorta like MSM did with Covid 🙂
        Mostly the Covid propaganda turned out to be lies.
        
        The same as the Ukrainian conflict reporting.
        
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        December 26, 2022 5:35pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    They are a kleptocratic hollowed out petro-welfare state with massive drug problems and the economy of Texas. Large percentage of Russians don’t even have an indoor toilet or a washing machine, and their education system has failed even worse than NZ’s (pisa rating ~480 vs NZ 500 – though we were 530 20 years ago). Modern warfare requires competent leadership and smart motivated technologically capable soldiers, Russia has neither.
    
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    December 26, 2022 3:22pm
    - kowtow
      
      The death on the front lines ,of a Zimbabwean , released from a Russian prison to fight in Ukr says it all .
      
      Is that all they have ?
      
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      December 26, 2022 4:13pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Pity there is no legal redress to stop the NZ media doing this.
  
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  December 26, 2022 1:05pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I can’t agree with you. Russia is a threat to its neighbours and will be until the Russian Federation is broken up into its constituent smaller countries. Putin is responsible for initiating and maintaining this crime against humanity. He needs to be personally taken out asap.
  
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  December 26, 2022 2:38pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Yep. Believe what you want,
    The western propaganda is doing its job extremely well in your case.
    
    Talked to any Russians at length?
    been to Russia at all?
    
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    December 26, 2022 2:50pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      I’m waiting for them to come to me. Seems to be rather a rush to exit the Motherland.
      
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      December 26, 2022 6:25pm
  - Taieri
    
    Not everything is quite as black and white as it would appear.
    
    Richard Sakwa, 2016, Frontline Ukraine: Crisis in the Borderlands
    
    A good background reading on the events leading to the current crisis. A very sober assessment of Putin’s behaviour over the years and all the actors on the political scene in Ukraine, prior to 2014 and just after, including Americans.
    
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    December 26, 2022 2:52pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    As with most countries sliding into authoritarianism/totalitarianism Putin’s replacement is likely to be worse. Most evil bastard wins in leadership tussles.
    
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    December 26, 2022 3:24pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      That’s why it’s best Putin is taken out with a missile with the same promised for his successor if he continues to misbehave.
      
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      December 26, 2022 6:24pm
- Ghost
  
  An interesting video for you
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhA1yofpkMg&t
  
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  December 26, 2022 5:19pm
Jack5

Switzerland, like New Zealand, uses a lot of hydro-generated electricity.

Supply can be affected by weather, as in NZ when snow storage or snow melt is affected around South Island lakes.

As preparation for hydro-power shortages, Switzerland is drawing up plans that could be imposed on electric cars. Someone pointed this out on Kiwiblog early this month, but it didn’t seem to sink in that NZ and Switzerland have similarities in their power systems.

The Swiss plan potential restrictions of EV’s to “absolutely necessary journeys”.

Imagine being isolated in say, the Mackenzie Country, and unable to use your electric car during a cold, blackout-threatened southern winter.

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/is-switzerland-banning-electric-vehicles-here-s-all-you-need-to-know-41670307309247.html
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December 26, 2022 12:14pm
- Nickc2
  
  The next cry of insanity will be for the NZ Govt to call a ban on recharging EVs for a given period due to an actual or perceived lack of renewable power.
  All this as the neighbourhood goes into a diesel induced rumple as people start up their own generators to charge their EVs.
  Remember, some people voted for these idiots!
  
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  December 26, 2022 12:28pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    We already have this in a new apartment block…..no room for new chargers…….. Meanwhile the police are running around sirens going……….
    
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    December 26, 2022 1:52pm
Gravelroad

TxT Me Shane………
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December 26, 2022 12:39pm
Don Beckett

Doesn’t that bloody global warming really get up your nose? The USA is doing another freeze – Minnesota – 53C, – 18C in Dallas, and snow in Florida.
https://phys.org/news/2022-12-historic-cyclone-north-america.html
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December 26, 2022 12:58pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Minnesota is on a par with Fairbanks Alaska. Minus 55F.
  When the temp gets up to ZeroF they all run outside in underwear and have a snowfight. Still 32 below freezing! Seen videos.
  
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  December 26, 2022 1:09pm
kevn

@Don…. The warming/cooling has now morphed into ‘change’.
That covers everything…
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December 26, 2022 1:02pm
- Don Beckett
  
  I guess you missed the irony, kevn.
  But I know the point you’re making.
  
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  December 26, 2022 2:44pm
Nickc2

Let’s hope nobody in Govt or Frazer House reads this.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/12/25/great-reset-home-heating-and-electric-car-charging-to-be-remotely-throttled-under-government-scheme/
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December 26, 2022 1:07pm
- Inandout
  
  Nick, our hot water is controlled at night.
  
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  December 26, 2022 1:30pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, cold showers in the morning eh?
    Forget the dawn-breaker, have a cold shower instead.
    
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    December 26, 2022 2:03pm
- Cassandra
  
  Nick: there was once a time when we elected governments to do the things we wanted – now the government decides what’s good for us. Wouldn’t be so bad if MPs were superior beings but nowadays they’re a pack of party hacks who’ve done nothing else. Perhaps a spell in retail* but nothing to qualify them for deciding what’s “good for us”.
  * snapper or hoki?
  
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  December 26, 2022 1:42pm
  - Nickc2
    
    “Two battered Hoki, two battered Sausages, and one scoop of Chips and easy on the salt please Cindy.
    I’ll pick it up on the way home from the Pub.
    Cheers,
    U NO HU”
    
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    December 26, 2022 1:58pm
  - kowtow
    
    Cass
    
    Excellent article by eminent UK historian and jurist.Lord Sumption. Written for an Oz market , no matter the theme is universal.
    
    https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2022/12/the-relentless-rise-of-the-authoritarian-state/
    
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    December 26, 2022 4:11pm
    - Mike
      
      He’s a sound historian of the hundred years’ war and had enough sense to vote against Brexit, so it might be worth reading.
      
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      December 26, 2022 7:08pm
hullkiwi

Paging through my LinkedIn account and posts the other day, I came across this post, posted 5 days ago.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7010803911397699584/

The article is by Richard Long, for those not familiar with Richard Long, he used to be a TVNZ Sports and News presenter like Peter Williams.
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December 26, 2022 1:25pm
- Philview
  
  Is that the same Richard Long? He looks different but it has been a long time since he was on TV.
  
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  December 26, 2022 2:18pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Different.
    
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    December 26, 2022 3:01pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      No, it is the same.
      
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      December 26, 2022 7:50pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I think that was a different Richard Long. Your link is to some wokester raving about the Great Reset.
  
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  December 26, 2022 2:37pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I can see why you are gas-lighting it furiously Milky!!!
    
    He’s on the money!
    
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    December 26, 2022 2:46pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Are you a betting man?
      
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      December 26, 2022 3:01pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Not really. Are you a reading comprehension man? 😀
        
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        December 26, 2022 4:04pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Milkeymike, if you read his experience you find it is Richard Long, firmer TVNZ newsreader.
    
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    December 26, 2022 7:52pm
    - Ghost
      
      No, who you have linked to is Richard S Long a cameraman and director
      
      https://www.nzonscreen.com/profile/richard-long-516
      
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      December 26, 2022 8:09pm
    - Mike
      
      hulk iwi, is LinkedIn a bit confusing for you? 🙃
      
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      December 26, 2022 8:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

How long before this gets to NZ? It will be coming under the Coup.
https://thegoptimes.com/professor-says-first-responders-should-let-white-victims-fing-die-then-takes-it-even-further-3/
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December 26, 2022 2:30pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The best thing about free speech is it tells you who the complete idiots are.
  
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  December 26, 2022 2:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Free speech is a weapon of War according to Jaspinda.
    
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    December 26, 2022 4:00pm
- Nickc2
  
  When I first viewed the linked page, I thought Hone Harawira was the professor in question.
  Looks like, sounds like eh?
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump is not the bad guy here. Merrick Garland is. Just like RINO Liz Cheney, he is out to get Trump. He tried before with the FBI.
https://thegoptimes.com/trump-charged-its-happening/
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December 26, 2022 2:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Merrick Garland, he is a hater of America.
  https://libertyonenews.com/yikes-garland-says-hes-willing-to-tear-the-country-apart-to-get-trump/
  
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  December 26, 2022 2:51pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Watch this fresh face, Steve, he will be a star in the new house leadership.
  https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/george-santos
  
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  December 26, 2022 3:04pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Kevin McCarthy? Lots of US media are already attacking him, but I think he will make it. Main thing is America will be free if the nasty, evil, communist, America hating Nancy Pelosi.
You know she was the cause of Jan 6th don’t you Mike? Trump asked for the National Guard and Pelosi stopped it. Stopped 10 to 20 thousand National Guard.
Probably the second worst evil woman on the planet. You know who the first most evil is.
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December 26, 2022 4:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Also, he has as much clout as AOC – unless he becomes speaker
  
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  December 26, 2022 4:14pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘Lots of US media are already attacking him’
  
  That means he’s over the target , innit.
  
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  December 26, 2022 5:40pm
- Mike
  
  No Steve, I gave you a lunk to the new star in the GOP caucus.
  
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  December 26, 2022 6:39pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Speaker needs to be someone who already knows the ropes, not a new boy who wants to learn.
    Next year the Dems are going to be a huge problem.
    
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    December 27, 2022 9:13am
Ghost

More than 55,000 motorists have been overcharged for the Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) vehicle levy.

Of the $330,000 that has been over-collected, more than half is yet to be repaid through a refund process.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/12/general_debate_26_december_2022.html/comment-page-1#comment-3294882
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December 26, 2022 6:04pm
kevn

@Ghost… Would that be the diesel charge debacle?
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December 26, 2022 6:43pm
graham

I have to say what a real pleasure it was to watch 1 News tonight, with Daniel Faitaua presenting.

Because he did something that is quite radical these days. He quite simply … did his job. Mr Faitaua presented the news clearly, and in a manner that was easily understandable. He presented the news – in English.

What an unexpected pleasure it was to listen to the news and NOT have to think, “Wait … what did he say?” or “Sorry, what does that word mean?” How refreshing to be able to listen to the news without having to pause mid-report to look something up, SIMPLY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STORY IS ABOUT.

In short – how pleasing it was to listen to the news and actually be able to understand it. Long may it continue.
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December 26, 2022 8:35pm
- Mike
  
  He was wasted as an overseas correspondent.
  
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  December 26, 2022 9:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  In the UK he learnt to speak English, not the NZ English bastardised with Maori rubbish.
  
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  December 27, 2022 9:16am
rouppe

Patrick Gower says “if I can [give up drinking], anyone can”

Trouble is, Patrick, no one cares about your booze problem.
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December 26, 2022 10:03pm
- Ghost
  
  A year sober is a great accomplishment, well done to him.
  
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  December 26, 2022 10:17pm
  - rouppe
    
    A year sober is a great accomplishment – for him.
    
    Why does he need to preach that he’s been a year sober? I don’t need to be teetotal. Most people don’t.
    
    Just had enough of being preached to, I guess.
    
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    December 26, 2022 10:30pm
    - Ghost
      
      Be a grown up and don’t read articles that don’t interest you, just because you aren’t interested doesn’t mean other people won’t be. Girl was murdered this morning, man died canoeing, you’re whinging about a man trying to encourage people to give up alcohol.
      
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      December 26, 2022 10:36pm
    - rouppe
      
      Well, one could say the same thing about comments that don’t interest you (ie you don’t agree with).
      
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      December 27, 2022 7:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So that is what is wrong with him.
      
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      December 27, 2022 9:19am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It is NZ News you know. What is happening around the Globe is not important.
      
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