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Warren

After nearly 5 years of a Labour Government and I mean the worst Government in my lifetime, they still continue blaming the previous National Government for there inept ability on safteyand our roads fit for purpose.
The Transport Minister Michael Wood has just like his Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern a bad habit of lying and blaming the previous Government and anyone else that calls them out for problems of there own making.
This is the same Minister that categorized the New Zealand Public and protestors over Government mandates as the ‘river of filth,’ and now label’s the Opposition the National Party as ‘Outrageous Hypocrites’ over potholes on New Zealand roads.
The problem is they criticize others for the state of our roads that have caused many deaths and make statements they can’t keep like we will halve the road toll in New Zealand, so please tell us where have they got with that, ah that’s right the to hard basket . Potholes on our roads are dangerous and the trouble is they are not seen to being fixed, because the Government and Michael Wood haven’t demanded they be fixed and are costing motorists thousands in repairs.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/transport-minister-michael-wood-labels-opposition-outrageous-hypocrites-over-pothole-comments.html
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October 19, 2022 8:03am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lol Warren, as if the potholes that are there now were there in 2017. Only the execrable Michael Wood could come up with that.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:01am
  - David Garrett
    
    In Vino
    
    …. the execrable Michael Wood Oh, I do like that Sir…execrable…derived of course from the word for shit…
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:42am
    - oldfella
      
      DG: Michael Wood, an execrable one-man river of filth.
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:35am
      - Paulus
        
        Can’t be the same slimeyn man who believes he destined to lead the Labour Party soon.
        
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        October 19, 2022 2:05pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    And they reckon he is their best chance to take over from Cindy . Pfft
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:22am
- Gravelroad
  
  Re potholes- these have definitely increased over the past two or three generally.
  The Labour Party government seems to be happy to fund and encourage outfits like Waka Kotahi to enjoy fancy offices, enlarged comms teams, armies of HR employees and “traffic management” supervisors.
  Efficient road repairs – not so much.
  It is all back to front – the majority of money available should be spent on fixing roads in the regions- not managing and talking about fixing roads from an office in Wellington.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:04am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    They have no interest in fixing the infrastructure. Remember, they hate cars and the ability to make your own decisions to go where you want, when you want. The commie nutbars want us all in electric cattle cars or similar.
    I see we now have the moron “climate change” protesters blocking roads here in NZ. The protesters at camp Freedom didn’t do that and got battered and tear gassed. The police know how to do it now, looking forward to the climate protesters getting similarly dealt to.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:05am
    - TS Child
      
      They may well hate (other people’s) cars. But just try riding your bike over potholes… and then contending with the extended waiting times in the emergency department..
      
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      October 19, 2022 8:27pm
  - Stephen Russell
    
    What’s that? The roads are bad! Quick! Employ more spin doctors!
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:21am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They have got so much worse the last 6 months
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:23am
    - Close Hen Counters
      
      The potholes or government G? I reckon both 🤨
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:34pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Fancy offices – absolutely. NZTA are about to relocate head office from Victoria St (brand new when they moved in 10 years ago) to Bowen St (effectively brand new building).
    
    God knows what that will cost you & me.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:02pm
    - Ghost
      
      Costing $25 million, the previous location had Seismic problems.
      
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      October 19, 2022 9:08pm
- nathie
  
  Not surprising that Michael Wood would be blaming others, he doesn’t seem to be a nice person. According to Dr Gaurav Sharma’s FB post yesterday:
  
  I was advised by Workplace Relations Minister Michael Wood that not only will Labour destroy my political career they will discredit me and ruin my medical career too. Since then Minister Michael Wood and other Ministers have been calling event organisers advising them to cancel invitations extended to me.
  
  Now if this isn’t true then presumably Michael Wood would sue Dr Sharma, but he isn’t, so I’ll take Dr Sharma’s word over Michael “it’s all National’s fault” Wood!
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:07am
  - Gravelroad
    
    “Be Kind”. LoL.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The speaker should pull this little weasel aside in the house and threaten Wood with similar, the speaker has the right to drill this arsehole for this coming to the public attention, in fact Mallard did make the odd reference to ministers arrogance the odd occasion
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:25am
  - Sacha
    
    Wood is Ardern’s ‘bovver boy’ now that Trev is taking a back seat.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:27am
    - Gravelroad
      
      This “River of Filth” guy, Michael Wood, sounds like the exact opposite of a person who should be in any position of authority.
      “Look at me” – Trevor Mallard the 2nd.
      Why did people in Auckland vote for him?
      Cause Jacinda said.
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:24pm
  - wilderbeast
    
    Man that’s explosive.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:03pm
    - Roberta
      
      Explosive, yeah, might make the overseas media, but not the media in NZ where it actually happened!
      
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      October 19, 2022 7:49pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  To constantly blame a previous govt of 9yrs of neglect when they made promises at boht the 2017 & 2020 elections they were voted in to fulfil and 5 years later still use this excuse is of no surprise.
  Labour are great at making promises to get votes but a grand failure at delivering them.
  Perhaps they need to stop making excuses and just do the bloody job. If they were in the private sector they would have been fired in the first year for non-performance.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:22am
- jgw739
  
  Looking forward to Minister Woods offering a registration discount for motorcyclists who can no longer safely ride at all //
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:45am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He blamed Nats for the pot holes that have started appearing the last year or 2 , but I thought it was rain tearing up the roads
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:21am
  - tavita
    
    I blame it on climate change (/!)
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:33am
- Rusty
  
  Warren – And to think during 2020-21 there were months where Nzers were locked up in their homes and were not using many of the main roads in NZ.
  
  But they are still damaged!
  
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  October 19, 2022 1:16pm
Blog-aholic

So the interview answers on the News last night with Ardern Hipkins and Robberson were lies (again)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/labour-party-confirms-it-recommended-gaurav-sharma-be-expelled-for-misconduct/M3FG6HNQPPYJYUTO4DDHVHV4UE/
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October 19, 2022 8:05am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Where there’s smoke there is fire. Labour was planning exactly as Sharma has described in the last 24hrs. Sharma’s just bet them to the punch.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:24am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The Labour caucus must be a pretty miserable place these days, long may it continue. I’m enjoying the downfall of Ardern better than anything in my life. The tyrannical fascist is going down like a lead balloon.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:11am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Look at the state of Robertson in the house, he knows they are done
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:28am
    - Paulus
      
      Robertson has just returned from a long rough trip flying First Class to the UK and thence New York.
      [Mod – please don’t attack a person’s apperance]
      
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      October 19, 2022 2:08pm
  - Sacha
    
    I hope you’re right.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:27am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Going down like a Springbok prop after 14 phases.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:28pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Sharma said he was approached by members of Labour council ( union scum) yet the weasel words are we have not discussed that, that maybe true in cabinet, but clearly not in council
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:27am
Yvette

By-Elections
The Labour Party openly endorsed Efeso Collins in Auckland and Labour MP Paul Eagle in Wellington but both were beaten in their mayoral races at the weekend.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/local-elections-jacinda-ardern-defends-labour-endorsing-defeated-mayoral-candidates-says-it-s-not-sign-of-2023-election-results.html

Gaurav Sharma resigning from Parliament to trigger by-election, Jacinda Ardern calls move ‘wasteful’
We consider it unnecessary and wasteful given the general election is scheduled for 2023.”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/gaurav-sharma-resigning-will-trigger-by-election-independent-mp-says-in-facebook-post.html

The prospect of Labour MP Paul Eagle becoming Wellington Mayor – and triggering a By-Election – was endorsed, but Dr Sharma is “wasteful”?
May say more of Jacinda than of Gaurav
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October 19, 2022 8:05am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Indeed; Jacinda would have been more than happy to bear the cost of a Rongotai by-election, had Paul Eagle won the Wellington mayoralty.
  
  Pardon me Prime Minister, but your double standard is showing…
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:37am
  - nathie
    
    But Ardern didn’t have an issue with how she obtained her electorate seat!
    
    (TBH I was surprised David Shearer resigned at the time … I thought he was a decent person and the Labour Party needed more hard working people with integrity like himself. In some ways it was a shame he did and look at the unintended consequences that is screwing NZ that resulted)!
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:12am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Yet again she is being exposed as a fake, a liar and a total fraud. It took a while but it’s happening and it’s ugly.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:12am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    There is a pretty good chance Egale may still force a bielection, if they pressure him, let’s hope a cushy job comes up
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:34am
- Ghost
  
  Well the good news is that if jacinda stands next year and loses the government will she now stay on 3 years rather than waste money having a by election straight after a general election?
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:40am
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    Defeated PM’s are seen as getting a free pass on this issue.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:57am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Not when they have just stated it’s a waste of money, she is such a hypocrite on every level
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:36am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Something that can be used to get under her skin
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:35am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Sour grapes. I note that both Collins and Egale were favourites to win mayoralty till she opened her potty mouth
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:33am
Captain Mainwaring

The lunatics have now blocked Transmission Gully. Time to get tough with these half-wits.
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October 19, 2022 8:05am
- Benedict Yu
  
  They will be charged with obstructing a road. Get bailed. Do it again.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:10am
  - G152
    
    Lock their cars up for a month
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:13am
    - Ruawai
      
      G152 surely you jest, these protestors will have walked, cycled or used public transport to get to their protest.
      
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      October 19, 2022 8:44am
      - Ghost
        
        Na, their mummies would of dropped them off
        
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        October 19, 2022 8:49am
      - Ruawai
        
        Looks like they hired Hireace vans to get there, then used these vans to block the road. See second photo in Herald article attached.
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/climate-protesters-block-transmission-gully/7DAZ2QCEFV322XPDE5KEJEXMFI/
        
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        October 19, 2022 9:29am
    - kevn
      
      @G152… Looked like rental vans on T Gulley to me.
      
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      October 19, 2022 9:00am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        It is rental Vans, and I called the company to let them know that their vans were being misused in this manner.
        
        They were not happy.
        
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        October 19, 2022 9:29am
  - kowtow
    
    In Dunedin the eco fascists have got away with similar stunts and Plod just about gives them a pat on the back.
    
    ‘ The protest ended peacefully on Saturday afternoon, protesters moving away and police confirming one person, in the protest group in front of the train, had received a warning, but no-one was detained beyond a few minutes, or charged.’
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/9-hour-coal-train-protest-creates-%E2%80%98-positive-moment-change%E2%80%99
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:28am
  - Simon
    
    Question is how these people were radicalized? Was the misinformation straight from RNZ or Stuff or did they “google” man made climate change? Years of doing this.
    
    Imagine if you actually believed clowns like James Shaw or Cindy and thought it was an emergency. Combine that with say mental illness and cannabis consumption its dangerous stuff.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:30am
    - Master Mariner
      
      “Question is how these people were radicalized?”.
      
      It is a lifetimes achievement ( Every ones a winner ) in indoctrination starting from Play school.
      
      4 legs good, 2 legs better “sort of thing”.
      
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      October 19, 2022 9:45am
    - coge
      
      They claim it’s about bringing back passenger rail. A thinly veiled ruse, for their fervent belief in a coming vast climate apocalypse. The stuff of Dark Ages prophesy.
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:11am
      - pussycat
        
        Or the Dark Ages prophesy curtesy of Stuff?
        
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        October 19, 2022 2:35pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Bene: Quite so. Back in the day, if you breached bail you went straight to jail…and stayed there until trial. Up here in the Kingdom of Tonga that is still the practice; ergo there is very little breaching of bail.
    
    The prison jocularly know as the Huatolitoli Hilton is a damn sight less pleasant than Mt Eden Remand.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:15am
- Opie
  
  Arrest them and charge them with every minute wasted of every person that had to stop.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:16am
- Simon
  
  Yeah but its not like they have blocked somewhere that is important like Dunedin or Auckland or Reporoa. Where actual work and production is carried out. Stalling Wellington is a positive.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Same amount of work done, road closed or not
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:29am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    They will be blocking people trying to get to the airport. Folk going to hospital appointments. It is outrageous. Someone is going to lose the plot and attack them with a tyre iron.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      If you don’t have a tyre iron, a steering wheel lock is ok.
      Mine is under my driver’s seat. It is there for a reason.
      
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      October 19, 2022 8:40am
      - Opie
        
        Truckies with the mini baseball bat for checking their tyres….
        
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        October 19, 2022 9:29am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Correct way Opie. No air pressure is a different sound from tyres at 12o psi
        Even light trailer tyres work best at 65 psi,
        I know this stuff.
        
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        October 19, 2022 4:57pm
  - oldfella
    
    Simon, get Sorry Farnow (?) out to talk them down. Hasn’t got much else on her plate going by the early media stories.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:47am
  - pejhay
    
    30% of Wellington workers are ‘related’ to Government jobs, that makes 70% of us that aren’t – Don’t be a knob…
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Get tough like this:
  https://rumble.com/v1n95rc-drivers-have-enough-with-climate-crazies-blocking-traffic.html?
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:25am
- Sideoiler
  
  One of these lunatics is going to end up being either run over or seriously assaulted….
  
  I live in hope I really do, just like the ram raids it won’t stop untill someone gets badly f%&ked up.
  A Rachel Corrie moment is what is needed.
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rachel-corrie-us-activist-killed-by-israel-bulldozer-brought-it-upon-herself-court-says/
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:11am
  - oldfella
    
    Sideoiler: they protesters better hope they don’t get in the way of some young ram-raider in a hurry to make a getaway.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:49am
- Over40SingleMan
  
  All this time these protesters have on their hands is clearly being funded by the society they wish to rebel against.
  They have lived their lives with their minds being terrorised by parents, teachers, media and now governments that encourage irrational fear and promote a narrative of crisis.
  The acts of disruption and vandalism while protesting gains valuable likes on social and mainstream media while the lack of consequences seems to further offer encouragement to continue.
  At what stage do these eco-ferals get a short-sharp dose of reality?
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:13am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The Wellington police have shown they know how to batter protesters into submission. They should be able to make short work of these muppets.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:14am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  But but but , soft on crime
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:57am
Benedict Yu

One of these lunatics is going to end up being either run over or seriously assaulted.

How is New Zealand going to make long distance passenger rail work? It is absurd.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/130215128/protesters-block-transmission-gullys-southbound-lanes
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October 19, 2022 8:06am
- Benedict Yu
  
  One of these activists was saying we need rail because folk can’t afford plane fares or petrol for their cars.
  
  Of course there are some long distance trains. The cost of a return trip on the Wellington to Auckland train is $438. That is way higher than the cost of an airfare.
  
  There is an affordable transport service that covers the entire country. Bus.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:23am
  - peterwn
    
    In UK which has masses of passenger rail services, long distance buses are far cheaper than long distance trains. For example several years ago I used a bus to get to London for 7 pounds. Train would have cost 66 pounds (there were cheaper fares but not on the day I needed to travel).
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:34am
  - Colville
    
    These people are morons.
    Most people cant afford the 12+ hours a train trip would take each way Auck/Welly.
    Time has a value because life is short!
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:58am
    - rouppe
      
      Even James Shaw doesn’t take the train to Auckland
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:03pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        I’m not sure that any MP does; nor the Akld MPs drive north from Wgtn. Which explains in part the crappy roads as far as Bulls.
        
        Thank God for National’s roads of national significance programme.
        
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        October 19, 2022 9:10pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Who the hell is “folk”? I suspect they mean people like them, the great unwashed. Stinking, tie dyed kaftan and roman sandal wearing oiks with lank greasy hair, waxy ears and whispy full face beards who have never done anything with their lives except whine and moan about the injustice of the world. And that’s just the women.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:06am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      IVV – that was the 70s, I think you’ll find the modern day protesters are a completely different breed.
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:17am
- Ehlana
  
  Are these protestors the only people in the country who can’t Google? http://newzealandbuslines.com/
  
  “To explore New Zealand’s scenic beauty, there is a range of flexible ‘Book As You Go’ bus, scenic coach, ferry and sightseeing passes allowing you to travel at your own pace, in any direction, at any time on the national bus and coach networks of InterCity Coachlines, Great Sights and Cook Strait ferry services between the North and South Islands”
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:23am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    They dont want buses because they use petrol. I wonder if they realise that any long distance train in New Zealand uses diesel. Those folk on that Hamilton Auckland train must have the highest carbon footprint of any commuters in the country. 😂
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:40am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Not a lot of petrol buses. Diesel, but the price per litre is nearly up there with 91 octane
      
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      October 19, 2022 8:45am
      - Ruawai
        
        Diesel is more than 91 now plus RUC on top.
        
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        October 19, 2022 8:47am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        91 in Dunedin this morning is 10 cents cheaper than diesel !
        
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        October 19, 2022 10:59am
    - Ehlana
      
      But buses can go electric. They’d need to make sure there were enough spare to cover breakdowns and the longer charging time, but in theory, it could be done.
      And would be a lot more useful to more people than long distance passenger rail. The time for that is when the roads get clogged up with the passenger buses.
      
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      October 19, 2022 11:00am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Of course they cannot Google Ehlana. These are people that risk standing on their tongues when they walk.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:43am
- Sideoiler
  
  One of these lunatics is going to end up being either run over or seriously assaulted….
  
  I live in hope I really do, just like the ram raids it won’t stop untill someone gets badly f%&ked up.
  A Rachel Corrie moment is what is needed.
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rachel-corrie-us-activist-killed-by-israel-bulldozer-brought-it-upon-herself-court-says/
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:09am
  - riffer
    
    Excuse me…
    
    did you just state that people who protest should die?
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:40pm
    - Opie
      
      But that was OK when it was the protesters at parliament?
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:52pm
      - riffer
        
        You obviously have been sources of information than me. I was not aware that any protestors at Parliament died.
        
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        October 19, 2022 5:47pm
Benedict Yu

Creative New Zealand cuts schools Shakespeare funding. Everyone gets grumpy except communists who are victims of colonisation. Or guilty descendents of colonists.

Creative New Zealand calls critics racists.

Jacinda tells the Ministry of Education to make up the funding shortfall.

Welcome to Aotearoa.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300714961/creative-nz-blasts-racist-rhetoric-in-shakespeare-funding-cut-criticism
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October 19, 2022 8:08am
- KH
  
  Lets disband the racist organisation called Creative New Zealand.
  Even despite their blatant racism they don’t recognise it. So they have to go.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:13am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    Pot calling the kettle black.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:28am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Creatives love pot.
      
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      October 19, 2022 2:59pm
- G152
  
  Defund Creative New Zealand
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:18am
  - RockyJ
    
    Didn’t ya know? Labour have a new national anthem for our country. “God defund New Zealand”
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:27am
    - Nickc2
      
      I can just see the Aussies taking the piss out of that one RockyJ, especially highlighting the NZ accent eh?
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:01am
- graham
  
  Creative New Zealand calls critics racists.
  
  And I’d call the person at “Creative New Zealand” who claimed Shakespeare – arguably one of the greatest playwrights ever – is irrelevant to “the contemporary art context of Aotearoa”, and those who supported that person, a bunch of boorish philistines.
  
  This game can be played in both directions.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:18am
  - Cassandra
    
    Attacking my culture is racist. I’m not opposed to funding, for example, Samoan cultural activities, but in proportion to numbers.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:47am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s not a game, Graham. Creative New Zealand is racist, Woke, and damnably ignorant.
    
    The Aotearoa neo-apartheid is wider than Creative NZ. Here’s an artist who’s attacked for using Maori symbols. Race extremists both want Maori kultur to dominate NZ, and non-Maori barred from using it.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/northland-artist-lester-hall-calls-it-quits-after-sustained-and-nasty-attacks/GO6S63ZY7VZLV2PVJ5TCL5WCYI/
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:21am
- kowtow
  
  Very similar article in today’s Herald .
  
  No mention in either though of the literal Cultural Revolution going on at the behest of this regime . Only the same old lame accusations of “racism” .
  
  From CNZ’s website
  
  “Dolina Wehipeihana, Kaiārahi Māori, PANNZ; General Manager, Kia Mau Festival; Chair, Atamira Dance Company; Co-Director, Betsy & Mana Productions and member of Te Rōpū Mana Toi adds “I’m excited to advocate for changes that we’ve known have needed to happen for a while – and to bring everybody together while doing this.
  
  “It’s a critical time in Aotearoa where we are coming to understand our unique identity. We’ve got some incredible diversity in our population, and we’re underpinned by the energy that comes out of this land, which inspires our arts practices. This mahi has great scope for continuing to embrace Te Ao Māori values, recognising the important role of Māori artists and mana whenua, and working together to tell these stories”. ”
  
  BTW , what’s this A place everyone refers to . In the Maori T o W it’s “Nu Tirani” .
  
  More Red Guard re writing of history .
  
  Remember too there’s no “partnership” as the Apparatchiks keep repeating , the words were “akin to a partnership” , and that too is a highly dubious judicial opinion .
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:23am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    My unique identity is Shakespeare. I have no truck with grass skirts, spears, face scribble and poking tongues out. And FYI, we are a diverse population. Which has a small minority of Maori. So I for one don’t want you making the rules, Dolina.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:10am
  - RockyJ
    
    Agree Kowtow. If Cooke, as a leading jurist, meant that the treaty was a partnership, would have said exactly that. To him precise use of words is central.
    He was actually describing the fiduciary relationships of the signatories going into the agreement, not the agreement itself.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:31am
  - Jack5
    
    Racial division in NZ has soared under Ardern.
    
    After she’s tossed out of power next year, she’ll be off to the UN.
    
    Ardern’s record will get her a job stirring for the UN Human Rights Council.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:34am
  - Ehlana
    
    Actually, Nu Tirani sounds about right. Spelt New Tyranny in English, no doubt.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:02am
  - Media hater
    
    I notice the word ‘mahi’ is never used in the context of anything descriptive of actual work.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:45am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Low or no funding? Simple, just dig into the other cookie jar.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:49am
Frank the tank

Oh to be a fly on the PM’s wall last night. What a shit kicking of a day for her.

The left’s meltdown over the latest episode of the good doctor has been delicious. Apparently Sharma is worse than the devil.

Is this the tipping point for the eject button or will it be the by-election if Labour run a distant third?
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October 19, 2022 8:09am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Has Jacinda denied that she was planning to eject Sharma from Parliament six months out from the election? Once he discovered this of course he is going to resign. If he loses the by election so be it, but he goes out with his head held high.
  
  If I was a National voter in his electorate, I would support him in the by election. I can always change my vote at the general election. If Sharma wins the by election, he will have enormous legitimacy to attack the government. Jacinda will be humiliated.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:45am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is the way to go. He has support in Hamilton West – my old stomping ground.
    Don’t tell anyone I grew up in Melville.
    The support for Sharma is there. I know many people in the area who will vote for him as an Independent. Win, then torment the fuck out of Labour AND Jaspinda until the Election.
    Bring it!
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:56am
    - Frank the tank
      
      The best result would be Labour getting third place.
      
      That would almost guarantee a change in leadership.
      
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      October 19, 2022 9:29am
  - Paulus
    
    Am not sure that Jacinda makes these decisions -it apears to be is the role of the Labour Party Executive run by.
    the new President Jill Day and Rob Salmon the General Secretary.
    They make the decisions.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:23am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    This is a problem, because if Dr. Sharma splits the Anti Labour Vote, then it could Block the National Candidate and allow Labour to retain the seat.
    
    I like what Dr. Sharma has done, but we can’t allow it to become a bloody nose for National that Labour will crow about.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:41am
    - Matt Long
      
      Easy, Nats don’t stand a candidate for the by- election and encourage their supporters to vote Sharma. Get a support and supply agreement from him prior to the next general election giving one extra vote under MMP, or if he doesn’t agree stand a Nat candidate to wipe him out.
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:17am
    - leoj
      
      Oh, I dunno……
      If National perform poorly, which is entirely possible given their recent record, it might make the party wake up about the ineffectiveness of the leader to actually make some noise.
      Given all the ammo that Luxon has, he is doing very little. Keeping the powder dry – yeah, that’s making an impact (sarc).
      Wet, weak, slow yet Monday night alternative language lessons are important!
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:21am
      - Ghost
        
        Nothing wrong with the leader, he’s taken the party from low polling to being in front of labour. Listening to him at the sale yard when he is in town he is well spoken, and well recieved
        
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        October 19, 2022 10:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    No we can’t have that, if Nat voters give Sharma their vote, Labour stand a chance of winning, and just imagine the arrogance of Ardern if they retained the set
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:02am
- oldfella
  
  Will Cindy turn up in Hamilton West to campaign for the Labour candidate? She skipped the Tauranga bye-election altogether, but I think it will be hard for her to find an excuse to stay away this time. Even though she may once again back the losing horse.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:56am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She will be booed all the way back to Welly
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:03am
Tomtoddy

The elitists have a lot to answer for. Arrogantly forcing Te Reo Maori on New Zealanders is creating a growing number of ugly situations. The latest occurred when a non-Maori artist has been refused an opportunity to sell his paintings that depict Maori issues and raise questions for his community. This virtue signalling, holier-than-thou behaviour is now driving division, bitterness and retaliation that is dangerous with repercussions that should alarm all of us.

De-funding Shakespeare because of its “colonialist” tones is not just bizarre and unnecessary – it is deliberately provocative and aimed at stirring antipathy between races. It is the top down driven campaign started by a supercilious few and joined by many who should know better but who believed they needed to show their superiority and cleverness that is now out of hand and is going to end very badly for our country.

The odd outburst of ugliness will become common till neighbour is pitched against neighbour. Be very afraid.
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October 19, 2022 8:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Ah, but the cultural vandals are now suffering from the slings and arrows of (their) outrageous fortune and have decided to take up arms against (their) sea of troubles…..
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018863266/creative-new-zealand-speaks-out-after-shakespeare-funding-controversy
  
  It seems those who have railed against CNZ’s defunding decision are a bunch of bigoted racists.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:29am
  - nathie
    
    Ironically they (CNZ) lit the fires when they “told us what they really think” by calling Shakespeare a “canon of imperialism”!
    
    (Despite British imperialism not being “a thing” back in those days … maybe CNZ board members should resign for being stupid let alone Mao inspired cultural cancelers and racist themselves)!
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who exactly in Creative New Zealand is the culprit?
  Name and shame. Email, phone.
  This shit needs to be nipped in the bud.
  Out with the troublemakers.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:01am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    The Daily Blog has listed all of their names and contact details on Posts around this topic.
    
    Martyn Bradbury can be quite correct some of the time, and while he seems to love the idea of co-governance and other leftist silliness, he loathes the woke (as extreme Woke-folk they actually harm the left, and genuine policies that might materially benefit the struggling folk; i.e Social Justice Warriors actually distract from material issues of social justice).
    If only TDB/Martyn didn’t persist with the idea that Nats and ACT are cross-burning heartless enemies of the proletariat (the greater of two evils therefore). Because running the country better, pragmatism, small government, and supporting aspirations over entitlement leads to better long term outcomes for the labouring classes as well.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:58am
  - kowtow
    
    it comes from the top. Cabinet and Co.
    
    The rest are obeying the directives . happily on side though , like the good little Red Guards they are.
    
    Same as the bought and paid for media who’ve literally signed up to pushing treatyism .
    
    This is C Trotters take.
    
    “Given that all state institutions are now required to ensure that their decisions reflect the central cultural and political importance of te Tiriti o Waitangi, as well as their obligation to give practical expression to the Crown’s “partnership” with tangata whenua, the advisory panel’s meaning is ominously clear. At this time, and in this place, the policy landscape has no place for artistic endeavours that draw attention to the powerful and enduring cultural attachments between New Zealand and the British Isles.”
    
    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2022/10/cancelling-shakespeare.html?m=1
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:43am
kowtow

No mention in the Herald article of why a colleague in the very early hours gave their pass to a corrupt cop in order to destroy evidence .

“At the main gate, his electronic swipe card failed as he no longer required access to the station.

Undeterred, he drove to a colleague’s home where he obtained a valid swipe card, eventually gaining access to the station at 4.17am.

He made his way to the area where blood samples were stored and worked out which were his.”

From the Herald .
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October 19, 2022 8:12am
- Ruawai
  
  Straight out of British TV show ‘Line of Duty’.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:50am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  What a naughty boy.
  Good plot for Short of Talent Street.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:09am
  - oldfella
    
    Steve, only useful as a plot-line for Shorty St if the corrupt cop wanted to retrain as a nurse. //
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:02am
G152

So the PM didn’t know that the gentleman she and her cohorts pissed off wants out and she never never never threatened him with the jumping ship legislation….
Is there no lie this woman wont tell
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October 19, 2022 8:17am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Never write anything down. No notes, no emails.
  The FBI of New Zealand.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:10am
pdm

Don’t forget to support Groundswell in a town near you tomorrow.

Go to their website or facebook pages for times and meeting places.
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October 19, 2022 8:18am
- riffer
  
  Not if they block the bloody roads I won’t.
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:47pm
slightlyrighty

So, the PM is crying about the cost of a By-Election?

She said sod all when Paul Eagle was standing for Mayor which would have forced a By Election…..
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October 19, 2022 8:20am
- kowtow
  
  How many hundreds of millions were wasted on buying Peters’ support in 2017 .
  
  Eye watering waste . With barely a mention by the so called 4 th Estate .
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:32am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    More like billions. Running elections is a core function of government. I don’t know how she can talk about “waste” with a straight face.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:49am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      ‘Waste with a straight face’ After 14 years in politics you get this thing called “entitlement” Everything is laid out for you. Cost is irrelevant, the net Taxpayer foots the bills.
      When there is something you don’t like, just stamp the feet and scream ant everyone.
      
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      October 19, 2022 9:23am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        scream at*
        
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        October 19, 2022 9:24am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes she did. she endorsed him.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:33am
- peterwn
  
  It was her own fault. She and her mates were preparing to have him expelled from the party and he got wind of it. So he got in first and resigned from Parliament. Anyway if his political ambitions do not work out he has a REAL job to fall back to so from his point of view – so what?
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:49am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Got in first shows he is on the ball unlike a lot of MPs.
    The man has clout. He will not back down, and we have not seen the last of him.
    Go Sharma!! My friends will vote for you to prove a point, even though they may change before the Election.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:30am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They should be voting Nats, once again this gives Labour a sniff
      
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      October 19, 2022 11:43am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And when she is kicked out next year will she fit in opposition for 3 years, no didn’t think so
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:05am
Bloody Dago

It’s easy to hui “the throw them out” part of getting rid of this government, but the doey of unravelling the damage this government has done in the last 5 years is going to take a lot of pain to unravel. It will be a long way back to a proud and viable nation mark my words
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October 19, 2022 8:22am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Indeed. The new government needs embark on a relentless path to lift GDP per capita. All policies will be analysed through a growth lens. Instruct the Treasury to burn its “Wellbeing” handbook. Dig out the advice the Treasury formulated 20 years ago on how to make New Zealand a rich and prosperous country. When they actually had world class economists. Much of this advice is archived on the Treasury website. It is still relevant today.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:54am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    BY – I believe it is absolutely clear now that Ardern’s mission has almost been completed.
    
    As part of her job as a globalist shill for the WEF and UN, she is destroying the NZ economy and small businesses. She is indebting NZ to the point where we are now able to be pressured by international financiers to comply with their madness. All part of the tactics of the “great reset”. To “build back better”. Al part of the “green new deal”. Shutting down Marsden Point was just one of her insane moves. Now we are seeing an energy crisis around the planet and we are dependent on imports of fuel.
    
    It sounds like a conspiracy theory. It isn’t. As with covid this is all coordinated. We are to “own nothing and be happy” as per Fuhrer Klaus Schwab. Petrol and oil are to be stopped. We know it is an impossibility for wind and solar to fill the void, this means for the majority, we’re heading back to the dark ages and serfdom.
    The woman needs to be on trial.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:36am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Why do people think the government shut down marsdepoint? It was a private company’s decision
      
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      October 19, 2022 11:46am
      - peterwn
        
        Shutting down oil and gas exploration was much more insane than shutting the refinery. Anyway the Marsden refinery was not suited to NZ produced oil, that is better exported in exchange for oil products (petrol and diesel) of use to NZ.
        
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        October 19, 2022 1:59pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is why Jaspinda is doing all she can to fuck NZ over. Nasty evil Woman.
  Forget the smiles – they are fake.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:32am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  We can’t help that fact, but it’s Labours damage, if not got Peters they still would never have got back after last time, English would have won the super majority if Peters was not so vulgar
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:45am
Swifty

Off to Auckland hospital tomorrow to have a cancerous kidney removed – should be released on the weekend all going well, they say.

I do hope Labour’s risible performance in the health sector over the last five years doesn’t affect my chances of a successful surgical operation.

Thank god I’m not booked in at Middlemore!
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October 19, 2022 8:25am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Hope it goes well for you Swifty.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:39am
- tui47
  
  Good luck. Hope it goes well.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:42am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Best wishes Swifty!
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:52am
- edhunter
  
  Or curse him for the cancerous kidney in the first place.
  But seriously hope it all goes well and heres to a speedy recovery.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:53am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Good luck 🙂
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:55am
- krazykiwi
  
  Hope it goes well for you, Swifty. God bless.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:07am
- MCōs
  
  Both my wife and I have had interactions with Middlemore & Auckland Hospitals plus the GP and physio this year without a hitch.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Middlemore was great when I had cervical spine surgery in 2009.
    Pity the whole Health System has been allowed to deteriorate to the state it is in now.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:39am
- Harry Knuts
  
  All the best Swifty.
  My last stint in hospital was north shore and it wasn’t the care/staff that was below performance it was the cleanliness/hygiene of the place. Note: cleaners don’t come in the weekends they advised.
  Couldn’t wait to get outta there.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Once you are in the Hospital you are set. Just be patient.
  The staff are doing their best.
  Good luck man.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:35am
- Tricati
  
  All the very best – hope all goes well
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:46am
- curry4me
  
  Best wishes, Swifty.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:53am
- Swifty
  
  Thanks very much everyone, that’s very kind of you.
  
  Keep fighting the good fight!
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:41am
- Observer of Life
  
  All the best for a “Swifty” recovery… 😬👍
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:30pm
JimBobJoe

I heard a news item on ZB yesterday that tells me someone is priming the news cycle for a flood of poverty related stories. Item was about the feeding kids in school organisation saying things had got worse and more kids were coming to school with out food, and they had to spend an extra 100K.

Is Labour positioning to run a kind and caring campaign, with free school meals as central plank?
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October 19, 2022 8:34am
- MCōs
  
  Are you suggesting the kids & their families are being deliberately starved for political purposes?
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:46am
  - NK
    
    Yes.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:50am
  - NK
    
    I mean you wrote this question as if you believe Ardern cares about people. Are you suggesting she does? This is a woman who destroyed families, lives, businesses and caused deaths through the promotion of an experimental and unsafe vaccine while sitting back earning >$9K per week. She doesn’t give a stuff about the plebs.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:53am
    - riffer
      
      Dude, that sounds completely rabid. It’s just lies. And not very sane ones at that.
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:50pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    No, but they are being used for political purposes.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:23am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Cossie.
    
    Diversion by you…
    
    Poverty and lazy parents havent changed. Lazy parents have figured out someone else will feed the kids when they get to school so no need to get up and prep a brekkie. A charity is seeing more of the behaviour… No surprise as free stuff attracts lazy people
    
    What has changed is a newsroom decided to run the story… And my question was why and who primed them?
    
    Address the question and put the squirrel back in its hutch….
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:24am
  - Bloody Dago
    
    Yes
    
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    October 19, 2022 3:25pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Labour have nothing else left to use as an Election tool.
  Everything they touch turns to shit.
  Kind and Caring Jaspinda don’t give a shit. She cares for herself only.
  The smiles are fake.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:43am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Wipe student debt ? That’s the latest Fad in this Woke World we live in.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:57am
    - peterwn
      
      Which immediately begs the question about the situation of former students who are paying off or have paid off student debt. Robbo is between a rock and a hard place on this. He would no doubt like to buy these ex students off but also needs to reward those who have been diligently repaying student loans, but as Finance Minister cannot afford it.
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:24am
- kowtow
  
  I lurv how Sharma spikes their guns every time they want to intervene and skew the “news cycle” to their advantage .
  
  This time instead of us all talking about and being so beholden to the Great Miracle Workers for abandoning some of the Batflu oppression measures , we’re all talking by elections.
  
  Last time it was Labour intending to ambush the Nats succesfull conference with anti Uffindel/Luxon rubbish but along came a Sharma who shat on their picnic.
  
  Bwa hahaha
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:50am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Heard the woman talking on Hosking yesterday, it seems the woman was very anti government, so I don’t think it has anything to do with rotten Labour
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:10pm
Maggie Pie

Jacinda Ardern urges everyone to “be kind” to one another. LOL!!

This from Dr Sharma’s latest FB post…..

‘A few days after being expelled from the Labour Caucus, I was advised by Workplace-Relations-Minister Michael Wood, that not only will Labour destroy my political career they will discredit and ruin my medical career too’

As my partner just said – what a cunch of bunts 🙁
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October 19, 2022 8:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh dear, oh dear.
  
  Labour can ill afford to piss off qualified medical doctors.
  
  Michael Wood had better hope he’s never in a position where he may need the attention of Dr Sharma.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:52am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The Brylcream Bovver Boy is such a scumbag!
    “River-of-Filth” never forget 🙁
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:59am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Quickly becoming the most odious of the lot. And to think he believes he should be the next leader of the party.
      
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      October 19, 2022 9:32am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      If ever someone needed “disciplined” it is that slimy, lowlife scumbag. Odious creep.
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:53am
  - Scooter
    
    He shouldn’t be worried unless Dr Sharma is a registered Proctologist
    
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    October 20, 2022 1:14am
- Blog-aholic
  
  The problem is that Sharma may not be able to prove it but it is a truth that Michael Wood would be capable of such a statement. Sharma has proven to be truthful and Wood has not so,
  Sharma 1, Labour 0.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:52am
- MCōs
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I would suggest Dr Sharma is a fantasist.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:54am
  - MCōs
    
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    Sorry if that doesn’t suit your narrative
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:15am
    - Matt Long
      
      Your narrative is based on? Voices in your head?
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:29am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t think so….He seems to have a pretty good grasp of what’s been going on.
    
    But I think you’re on to something… there’s quite a few fantasists in the Labour Government.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:23am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It would take one to know one and you certainly fit the bill.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:53am
    - riffer
      
      And with that statement you endorse MCōs’ comments.
      
      Personally I think the statement that a lot of people on here are projecting is probably quite true.
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:52pm
- kowtow
  
  esterday on the ‘news’ Sharma asked her a Q in parliament and she literally answered with the one liner ” I refute the premise of that question” and frumped back into her seat .
  
  So much for open and transparent .
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:00am
  - Phronesis
    
    Refute means “to prove wrong by argument or evidence”.
    
    She actually means to say Deny – “state that one refuses to admit the truth of”.
    
    Probably beyond the comprehension of someone with a comms degree or indeed the journalists who never call her out for it.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:32am
    - riffer
      
      There is more than one meaning. You are correct that one meaning is to prove wrong.
      
      The other meaning is deny or contradict (a statement or accusation), as in “a spokesman totally refuted the allegation of bias”.
      
      nice try though.
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:53pm
      - Joely Doe
        
        No.
        To ‘refute’ is to offer evidence or proof that a claim is incorrect.
        Adhern can claim to ‘reject’ or ‘deny’ the premise of a question (whatever that means) – but she never refutes anything.
        
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        October 19, 2022 3:55pm
      - riffer
        
        No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t change the fact that you are wrong, dude.
        
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        October 19, 2022 5:48pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Back in the bad old days some of us were shoved in classes where we learnt a little Latin…..and came across verbs such as refutare – to refute or negare – to deny…. and learnt that they weren’t the same thing.
        
        Now it’s true that words change meaning over time, but it is also true that many folks are lax in using language with precision.
        
        The 1973 SOED does not offer deny as a meaning for refute.
        
        The 1990 COD gives deny as a meaning with the proviso (diss) = disputed.
        
        I’ll stick with Eric Partridge’s opinion:
        “To deny an accusation is merely to assert that is false; to refute an accusation is to prove that it is false.”
        (Partridge: Usage and Abusage, p. 262)
        
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        October 19, 2022 6:20pm
      - Sol Invictus
        
        Go and learn English. You’re wrong.
        
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        October 19, 2022 9:07pm
      - O C Smith
        
        Riffer is correct
        
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        October 19, 2022 10:12pm
    - Ghost
      
      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refute
      
      1 : to prove wrong by argument or evidence : show to be false or erroneous
      2 : to deny the truth or accuracy of
      refuted the allegations
      
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      October 19, 2022 6:16pm
  - Sacha
    
    “frumped”
    lovely 🙂
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:03pm
  - Harry Knuts
    
    At least she’s predictable. what other response would we expect from her nowadays.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:08pm
    - riffer
      
      What were you expecting? That she would not deny a falsehood. God you are desparate.
      
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      October 19, 2022 12:55pm
- Nickc2
  
  So bullying continues within the Labour Party with that mental giant (sarc) Michael Wood leading the way.
  So Labour is now leading a campaign against Dr. Sharms’s future employment. How can that be leagal?
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Works both ways. Dr Sharma can muster a lot of support in the Medical Profession.
  Even a nice guy gets pissed of sometimes, look out when they do.
  Red flag and you are in trouble.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:47am
cas

A couple of random observations.
1. Sky arts has a film The rise of Jordan Peterson (2015) on Tuesday . I suspect if it’s on Sky Arts it will be anti.
2 If Nanaia can lose shitloads of weight why can’t Grant?
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October 19, 2022 8:41am
- Ruawai
  
  Maybe Grant has given up on being leader.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:52am
  - MCōs
    
    Maybe he’s not intending to go into a career flogging off houses.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:57am
    - kowtow
      
      As opposed to his current one of flogging dead horses .
      
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      October 19, 2022 1:13pm
Master Mariner

Inflation at a record high, Regarding the energy costs associated with Inflation there is no end in sight.

So much for the Global catch cry of “Transitory Inflation”. Europe is awash in protests ( Not that we are allowed to know!).

Ok, Lets brake it down. So far the Oil price has been manipulated ( I don’t fully understand how ?) but will start with Americas Strategic Reserves ( SPR). These are nearly Empty. So much for having a SPR for “War time” and Global oil shocks.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/President-Biden-Is-Planning-To-Release-More-Oil-From-The-SPR.html
The Biden (Mis) administration was relying on Opec+ to release another 2M bbls/day. Unfortunately they never got that message and reduced output by 2M bbl/day.
Worst kept secret is OPEC+ can not and never have been able to meet production targets ( Some one tell Joe).

The under investment in Oil / Gas the last 7 years due to Political meddling and ESG and the “Nutters Club” will take a good decade to rectify providing there is a Political will.

Now this has thrown a “cat amongst the Pigeons”, Blackrock the Major backer of ESG has no invested in Refineries after Reaping all the Green projects by promoting ESG.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/BlackRock-Is-Ready-To-Invest-In-US-Energy-Pipelines.html

Maybe they can rebuild our Refinery ? Black Rock needs to Talk to Megan Woods asap and come to our rescue.//

You really would struggle to get a more “Perfect Storm”.
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October 19, 2022 8:54am
- MCōs
  
  It’s not ‘our’ refinery. It was privatized by the Lange Government a long time ago.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:26am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Blackrock gaming the system via skillful lobbying and direction of funds? And now things have moved to unworkable renewables they exploit the energy crisis by buying into the carbon based energy sector?
  
  You may think that … I couldnt possibly comment…
  
  I.am.not.shocked.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:29am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Govt should have purchased Marsden a long time ago, no matter what the Governing Party was. We have the infrastructure just sitting there doing nothing. Pipes, storage tanks. We are going backwards fast. New Venezuela.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:53am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The refinery is not just ‘sitting there’. It is being dismantled at a cost of $220 million.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/474936/dismantling-of-marsden-point-oil-refinery-continues#:~:text=The%20dismantling%20of%20the%20former,million%20for%20decommissioning%20the%20site.
    
    The pipes are being filled with concrete to prevent leakage and it is being prepared for demolition. There is no turning it back on again.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:16am
    - MCōs
      
      The owners have obviously done the sums and a refinery is not worth their while.
      If it’s not worthwhile to them why should the taxpayers nationalize the place?
      
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      October 19, 2022 10:49am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Because it is crucial energy infrastructure which is critical to the running of any country, as the Europeans are finding out currently much to their dismay. Are seriously that stupid?
        
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        October 19, 2022 10:56am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Exactly, if they can’t make ends meet, why would you give it to the worst government in our history
        
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        October 19, 2022 12:14pm
      - Taieri
        
        If it’s not worthwhile to them why should the taxpayers nationalize the place?
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        Because the taxpayers can’t exist without fuels. And fuels come from refineries…
        
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        October 19, 2022 1:30pm
      - MCōs
        
        If the refinery was so crucial the country why did the Lange Administration flog it off ~35yrs ago?
        We can’t ask Lange, of course, but some key members of his cabinet are still around and Prebble & Bassett are very outspoken on all sorts of subjects.
        I’m sure they’re ready to defend their actions.
        Who owns what, I don’t know?
        But fuel is offloaded at other places besides Marsden Point and transported around the country by the fuel companies. There’s no point in bits being state owned if it all isn’t.
        BTW
        Before it closed the refinery was responsible for around 67% of diesel & around 58% of all petrol
        
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        October 19, 2022 2:31pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I was meaning the pipe from Marsden to Wiri, and the storage tanks there.
      Are those tanks being used?
      
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      October 19, 2022 11:39am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Marsden point will be used as a storage facility, the pipe will still run to Wiri, I go t think the private owner has changed their plan
        
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        October 19, 2022 12:15pm
- peterwn
  
  Reopening the refinery is not going to result in a cheap and plentiful supply of crude oil suddenly materialising. There is plenty of efficient and price competitive refining capacity available in the world. Supply of crude oil is the issue, not the means of refining it.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:35am
  - Matt Long
    
    Strange, my reading showed a shortage of refining capacity being the cause of high prices. Perhaps things have changed in the last couple of months.
    The good news is a correlation between oil and dairy prices.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:00am
    - peterwn
      
      A refining squeeze will lead to investment in new refinery capacity probably by expanding existing refineries. As far as I know the number of refineries in the world is decreasing but refining capacity is increasing. NZ effectively ended up with an old and obsolete refinery that was not worth upgrading. If it were upgraded then Kiwis would have had to pay more for its products. Similar to NZ’s car assembly business years ago. Local assembly of Model T Fords made sense at the time (there were assembly plants around USA that assembled kitsets provided by Detroit to save freight), but local car assembly makes no sense now.
      
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      October 19, 2022 2:12pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Nope, Other way around.
    
    Lack of refineries more of an issue, Not so much Crude.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:54pm
    - peterwn
      
      But overseas refining companies will be able to enhance capacity far quicker and more cheaply than reinstating Marsden. Indeed if Marsden were reinstated then that would be completed at the time of a cyclic glut of refining capacity.
      Far better to dump Jacinda’s quirky ideas and restart oil and gas exploration ASAP. And to fast track other minerals projects especially ones that will save transport costs and/or provide rare earths and lithium for wind farms,EV production, etc.
      
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      October 19, 2022 2:18pm
redeye

Have you ever tried to feed a rabbid dog and had your hand nearly taken off? Well now you know how the leaders of Stuff feel

Earlier this month, Stuff’s chief executive Sinead Boucher and other media bosses warned about the Government’s plan to merge TVNZ and Radio NZ into a single public media entity.

Boucher said private media was facing a “pincer movement” from the proposed organisation, which could use public funding to undercut competitors for advertising revenue and overpay when competing for talent and staff.

“In some cases the salary offers have been 30 per cent above what we have been paying and what we are paying is very much the market rate – not low paying, so we are already starting to feel the effects of it and the entity is not even formed,” she said.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-firm-stuff-proposes-changes-to-newsrooms-but-wont-say-if-jobs-will-be-lost/7ZJXGVLUN75NZPHOM7RNFQWLTM/
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October 19, 2022 8:55am
- Paulus
  
  On the merger between TVNZ and RNZ another candidate was suggested some dys ago quietly – the famous media person and interviewer now Lawyer Linda Clark.
  She is a close friend of Jacinda’s.
  She is still well left wing it is suggested.
  It was thought that she was probably trying to find her Maori roots, her whakapapa as not having that would hinder her otherwise all go.
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:31am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh, jobs will be lost from “Stuff”.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018863217/stuff-proposes-cutbacks-in-regional-newsrooms
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:01am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Get rid of provincial reporters who might have some vestigial respect for and connection to economically productive elements of NZ, but keep far left urban journos who parrot correct beliefs from Labour, Green and Maori party press releases.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:46pm
Maggy Wassilieff

A former Labour Minister of Arts and Culture identifies the Cultural vandals at Creative NZ.

The decision was taken by a team that Jacinda Ardern’s government appointed. Their appointments were approved by her caucus of 65 Labour MPs. Each of those MPs claims to uphold Labour Party traditions when they clearly don’t.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/labour-s-shakespeare-moment
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October 19, 2022 9:09am
bjools

On TV3, I see the govt (Hipkin) is saying they will have a Royal commission of inquiry into the covid response.
and will formulate a plan of response for the future.
REALLY????
Like the one you didn’t follow?
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/influenza-pandemic-plan-framework-action-2nd-edn-aug17.pdf
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October 19, 2022 9:17am
- Phronesis
  
  Only because they want to get in first and ensure the outcome is favourable to Labour by appointing loyal commissioners with a very narrow scope of inquiry. When National gets in they won’t be able to change much.
  
  This was always going to happen.
  
  Luxton could get ahead of this in various ways but it’s not clear that he has any interest in doing so.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:49am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  All of the hours spent on the influenza-pandemic file was a waste of time?
  No wonder NZ is broke.
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:46am
Yvette

Very minor details?
In a statement, Labour leader Jacinda Ardern rejected this, adding: “Gaurav may wish to reconsider his decision given he is unnecessarily costing the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of dollars to trigger a by-election he then intends to stand in.”
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/10/19/resignation-not-at-all-personal-pushback-against-govt-sharma/

Prime Minister Ardern usually refers to fellow politicians as Minister Robertson or Minister Mahuta, not Grant or Nania – so why suddenly Gaurav?
Condescending crocodile kindness?
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October 19, 2022 9:18am
- Opie
  
  She has referred to him only as Gaurav since this kicked off, not minister or doctor Sharma.
  
  It’s a deliberate show of disrespect and also an attempt to come across as soft and kind to her supporters by being personal.
  
  Everything she says is scripted as she literally doesn’t give a fuck. It’s all just a big power game.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:48am
  - Ghost
    
    He was never a minister.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:51am
  - Sacha
    
    She’s a narcissist – and being disrespectful by not using his professional title/ surname. It’s all the ammunition she has when she’s losing to superior tactics.
    Her armoury is empty.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:15pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I can’t wait for the 🐊 tears, she is so hated it will do her over, interesting if she is on the ground in Hamilton, my guess is we won’t see her there, perhaps a few media organised pleas to vote her next scum off the rank
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:21pm
Tony Stuart

Compare and contrast these two speeches from the Urgent Debate in Parliament about the woman who died after a long wait in ED. Then ask yourself this; which man would I prefer to have as Minister of Health:

Andrew Little: https://vimeo.com/761298013

Dr Shane Reti: https://vimeo.com/761299824
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October 19, 2022 9:18am
- nathie
  
  So according to Labour (2017), National were such a “bad” government that “sewerage was running down hospital walls” (fact check – untrue – Labour lied).
  
  Yet when Labour are govt much worse things are happening under their watch (patient safety compromised – isn’t this the second reported death this year) … but somehow according to Labour it is “National’s fault & nine years of neglect” etc!?????
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:45am
  - Ghost
    
    That’s alright, last night, after being in for 5 years they blamed the potholes on national
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:50am
  - peterwn
    
    Perhaps Labour propagandists got the idea of ‘sewage running down the walls’ from that Brazilian prison where that NZ prison escapee was held. Seemed to avoid adverse international comment the Brazilians transferred him to a less crappy prison a few days later.
    
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    October 19, 2022 10:40am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The part of the hospital that had the leaking pipe was built in 2005 apparently, meaning Labours cheap and nasty build and 9 years of Labour neglect
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:24pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    What’s more serious? If you’re Andrew Little, it’s unsubstantiated allegations of sewage in the walls. If you’re Dr Shane Reti, it’s the death of a patient who should have been seen far faster than she was.
    
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    October 19, 2022 5:50pm
- vant
  
  Dr Reti sounds so eloquent, competent, genuine and empathetic. Does Labour have any MPs that remotely have any of those qualities?
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:34am
  - Matt Long
    
    Not that they would promote to a position of power.
    
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    October 19, 2022 11:02am
- septic skeptic
  
  Sorry Tony, I couldn’t make it through Andrew Little’s speech. Gave up just over half way.
  
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  October 19, 2022 5:07pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Anyone know what a …. ‘multi-year Accelerator Programme’ actually is?
Pays very well apparently.

https://gets.govt.nz//CNZL/ExternalTenderDetails.htm?id=26483703

Asking for a friend.
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October 19, 2022 9:25am
- Frank the tank
  
  Summed up what is wrong with the world in one job advert…..
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:35am
Warren

It shows you how bad Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister’s plan is for reducing farm emissions and labeling it as a world first, when the most biased Journalist in New Zealand has this to say about his friends latest policy.
Simon Wilson calls it unambiguous and a curiously misguided plan for reducing farm emissions.
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October 19, 2022 9:26am
Taieri

Ufff!…

“(…)The Sea warming report is so grim because it is now apparent the warming oceans will melt the frozen methane on the ocean floor causing enormous belches of methane that once triggered cascade pushing global temperatures up by 10 degrees in the space of a decade which would melt all the Greenland ice sheet, which in turn would pump fresh water into the Labrador Sea which in turn would shut down the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation off and plunge the Northern Hemisphere into an ice age.(…)”

From the Bomber…
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October 19, 2022 9:30am
- Master Mariner
  
  You forgot the “Doomsday Glacier”//
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:03am
- Ehlana
  
  So, culling our cow herd to reduce methane emissions going to have no effect compared to the release of the frozen methane on the ocean floor?
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:35am
- All_on_Red
  
  Taieri,
  You asked the other day about how the Sea Temp was measured.
  For a long time they have been using the Argo Buoy system
  https://sealevel.nasa.gov/missions/argo
  The problem is they only have 3800 of them to measure temps in 361,000,000 kms of Ocean…
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:42pm
  - Taieri
    
    You asked the other day about how the Sea Temp was measured
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    I didn’t ask. I explained how it used to be done.
    As for the Argo Buoy system, in 1992 I was involved in setting up a similar system in the Pacific Ocean. This was to be used for metering the ocean currents and was a very interesting project.
    
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    October 19, 2022 1:36pm
Chris2

I would like to nominate Siouxsie Wiles as the Labour candidate for the Hamilton by-Election.

Go Siouxsie, you know you want it!
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October 19, 2022 9:35am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Good satire! She won’t win. My friends in Melville hate her guts!
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:17am
  - MCōs
    
    Why would they “hate her guts”?
    That’s a bit over the top. Have they crossed paths?
    
    I would suggest the Nats give Dr Sharma the chance to switch parties and contest the seat.
    Not a chance.
    They know he’s nothing, but trouble.
    
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    October 19, 2022 2:10pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘Why would they “hate her guts”?’
      
      Because they think she is a bullying narcissist?
      
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      October 19, 2022 3:56pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Had a look at the bully Prime Minister that leads NZ Mac?
      Your freedom of speech will be controlled.
      Good morning Vietnam is real, not satire in NZ
      
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      October 19, 2022 5:14pm
  - Prince
    
    Exactly why we want her to stand.
    
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    October 19, 2022 4:51pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Aposematism is the advertising by an animal to potential predators that it is not worth attacking nor eating. These advertising signals may take the form of conspicuous coloration, sounds, odours,[2] or other perceivable characteristics.
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

W(h)anganui Collegiate scores a Booker.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/massey-grad-wins-booker

It’s not all pakeha privilege at our high schools, then.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/130194046/colonial-conflict-and-pkeh-privilege-need-to-be-recognised-in-schools-says-researcher
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October 19, 2022 9:35am
- Harry Knuts
  
  There was no pakeha privilege at my schools and none that came my way. 70’s – 90’s era.
  Some people just like to spend their lives work with a constantly grinding of an axe rather just getting on with life. Permanent Victimhood. Must be so exhausting being the victim all the time.
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:16pm
  - MCōs
    
    There certainly wasn’t when I went to school either.
    The kid who had epilepsy and the kid who walked funny as a result of polio only had themselves to blame for being constantly bullied.
    
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    October 19, 2022 1:16pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852GPfyZDkg
Restore Passenger Rail spokesperson James Cockle on climate change.

Sean Plunkett interviews ‘Green’ nutter. The sane lobby is dead against them. I wonder why? Nutters doubling down on BS. It’s what cults do when the writing is on the wall. I guess there will be a lot of this in the Fourth Reich over winter….. not. Sean chews him up, and spits him out. Where are the guys in white coats when you need them? [18:26]
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October 19, 2022 9:41am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That James Cockle is dodgy as. Not associated with the Greens but challenged James Shaw, but is a Green Party Member.
  Cant’ divulge how many in his group because of Bail conditions.
  Full. Of. Shit.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:25am
Frank the tank

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-ridiculed-spelling-dot-website-url-literally-read-words

I’m Joe Biden?
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October 19, 2022 9:42am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “blah blah blah blah, President sits down’
  Yes, he is that bad, and he has one of the ‘nuclear footballs’ (there are two for security)
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:29am
- kowtow
  
  A report in American media says his nurse maid ( wife) came into a WH meeting to berate his media handlers over allowing his second only news conference to go on too long , the one where he gave Putin the green light on Ukraine .
  
  You won’t read that in our msm , unlike had it been Trump.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:56am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YABBoPxZl0M
Election Software CEO Arrested, Given $500K Bond Over ‘Massive Data Breach’ Case: Los Angeles DA.

Nothing to see here. Definitely no malarkey. Nothing stored in China. Brandon won in a landslide.
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October 19, 2022 9:42am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That was interesting. There was much much more going on.
  81 million votes my left tit.
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:38am
Maggie Pie

Brownies only been Auckland Mayor for a week….

Calls are already being made that he should be PRIME MINISTER!

https://twitter.com/mikeall84403276/status/1582107698270998528
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October 19, 2022 9:51am
David Garrett

…And on a lighter note….the whole of Nuku’alofa is celebrating – as only the Tongans can – their narrow victory over PNG in the Rugby League World Cup.

The main street is clogged on both sides for the whole (shortish) length of the main thoroughfare with Tongans hooting their horns and waving Tongan flags.

Quite a sight. Tomorrow’s parade will be spectacular.
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October 19, 2022 10:10am
- Tarquin North
  
  Good stuff David, nice to hear about people being happy for a change. Can we send Andrew Little over to be reprogrammed?
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:26am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Or just eaten in the customary way?
    
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    October 19, 2022 6:36pm
- Gravelroad
  
  @DG-
  I was in Nuku’alofa on the first day of the 2011 Rugby World Cup when NZ was playing Tonga in the opening game (Eden Park).
  Apparently it was declared a public holiday and, as you described, the people spent all day driving round the streets in great excitement.
  The NZ consulate had arranged for TV coverage of the game to be made available.
  I left on a midnight plane which arrived from Auckland with the the King on board.
  This plane was met with a long red carpet, limos and a full brass band which played the national anthem as he walked off. Have never seen a better dressed brass band -all feathered hats and gold braided red uniforms.
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:40pm
rockape

Well it took9 years for Cullen to ban rust NZ . Robertson has managed it in 5 ! Congratulations Mr Robertson your political career has just about ended !
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October 19, 2022 10:20am
- David Garrett
  
  rock: among the late Sir Michael’s many accomplishments, I doubt banning rust from the country was one of them…did you mean “bankrupt” perchance? Always pays to proof read old boy…especially went sending from a phone which thinks it knows what you are trying to say.
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:34am
  - David Garrett
    
    Ah…hoist by my own petard!
    
    WENT above should of course have read
    
    when…
    
    And I don’t even have “sending from a phone” as an excuse.
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:48pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

PM issues direct threat to Remuera homeowners…..

https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1582209483845292033
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October 19, 2022 10:25am
- Ghost
  
  The council put out the 3 waters figures they’d got from the government, down here it was going to be an increase of what we currently pay for water, storm and sewage, within 30 years the 3 waters yearly bill was projected at $5000 a year. Bleeping insane
  
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  October 19, 2022 10:35am
- Nickc2
  
  Dontcha just wish Cindy’d keep her effin great Pinocchio nose out of things that don’t concern her.
  How the Akld Mayor chooses to allocate work to those entities for which he is responsible has fuck all to do with her full stop.
  Fuckin Dictator!
  
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  October 19, 2022 11:58am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Taxes will rise if Jacinda’s useless twats don’t get the boot next year.
  
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  October 19, 2022 6:32pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Why? Is Jacinda threatening to move there?
  
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  October 19, 2022 9:32pm
Surely Knott

Pop Artist European NZer Lester Hall, who merges Maori and Pakeha symbolism, is cancelled for cultural appropriation on the Herald. So what are the rules , and what is appropriating?

And why is Racial Appropriating racist and yet we are currently celebrating Gender Appropriation with men dressed in female drag in the council libraries .

Similar to Lester’s pop iconography or culture, Drag is a pop extreme stereotype of a woman with superficial overexaggerated makeup and features like huge false eyelashes and glitter makeup and exaggerated voice and gestures.

Why is Gender appropriation and caricature of womanhood paid for by council and yet Racial appropriation, even in the form of art as social commentary, results in cancellation of your career and public status.

And isn’t using the two symbols Maori and European, symbols and language intertwined, the height of wokeness in the new Aotearoa New Zealand as we see governments, and corporates and media rush to incorporate Maori language and symbolism in their products.

And what about this famous artist, Sofia Minson, whose famous paintings also use the juxtaposition of women with Te Moko while also wearing formal victorian clothing and patterned english wallpaper , and religious iconography like the Lady Madonna halo. Is it ok for her to comment on our mixed cultural heritage of NZ through art, because she has a mixed heritage but not Lester.

And why is society using Essentialist Theory for race as if it is a biological reality complete with societal gatekeeping to decide who can use Maori iconography and who can’t, but with women we are required to accept a Social Constructionist theory, that womanhood is a social construct not based on biological reality, -something you feel and anyone can chose how they identify and you can identify fluidly changing identities and being non-binary.

While Lester may not identify as Maori, or Chinese, we have a shared history – the great melting pot, and many artists use iconography from both. Surely Pakeha are also entitled to be part of that conversation in the artworld.

Which people get to choose who is cancelled. He has been endorsed by another Maori artist who sells Lesters painting. Thehori.co.nz The Hori says, “Matua Lester is a genuine fucken legend. He cops a lot of shit from TE IWI MAORI. Challenge his shit you better bring the wero because this pakeha loves a good old fashioned korero”. And he goes to talk about the use of the chinese girl in the painting and the history of the poll tax. But I guess Hori, despite being Maori, isn’t the arbiter of appropriation. It’s not clear who is.

But maybe the problem isn’t the art shown on the newspaper article that caused the situation to boil over . It seems Lester has done lots of political art with “Be free” stamps during covid. One piece comments on the Prime Ministers phrases and covid policies. With an art work called “They are us”, with a blue pop art style Chinese woman on a stamp wearing a covid mask, with the words Aotearoa at the top and “Be kind” and “Play safe”, “They are us.” Wearing a large Tiki.

It’s certainly an artwork that reflects the politics and the issues of the time. Are we cancelling artists for their politics and for speaking against the Prime Minister.

Cancelling artists is extreme and regressive and has no place in a free nation. We should be talking about Lester’s work – good or bad. It raises the complex issues of our times with regards to multiculturalism in New Zealand. Maybe what cuts to the bone is some of it rings true. The woman with the mask and the political sloganism “be kind” is imagery of our time. It makes us uncomfortable because their are uncomfortable discussions to be had. But maybe the most politically dangerous artwork he made in the series is beautiful images of two Kaka on a stamp that say , “Acceptance. Live Life. Be Free.” What is he actually encouraging here. Freedom?! Radical.

https://lesterhall.com/kiwiana/they_are_us.htm
https://lesterhall.com/kiwiana/Acceptance.htm

https://www.newzealandartwork.com/shop/product/221956/rose-of-the-cross/

https://www.newzealandartwork.com/shop/product/262823/sophia/?variantId=1023535
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October 19, 2022 10:27am
- herb1
  
  Isn’t it about time a claim was made to the “waitangi Tribunal” against Maori.
  Maori seem to think a partnership , which is about rights and responsibilities, means they have the rights and non Maori have the responsibility.
  We’re always hearing about cultural misappropriation and the required redress, usually monetary .
  Someone needs to claim against Maori for cultural theft of the English colonists alphabet. Time Maori made up there own letters and whine we’re at it can we make a claim against Maori ( kelvin Davis) using welsh names.
  Rant over
  
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  October 19, 2022 1:30pm
- cmm
  
  The cultural appropriation claims are bollocks.
  
  Any benefits you get from a multi-cultural society are due to cultural fusion ie. blending the cultures.
  
  The whole premise of cultural appropriation is broken. If Maori can own their culture and be the gatekeepers of who uses it then it is only fair if the reverse can be applied.
  
  No, you can’t use colonial electronics to amplify Maori music or disseminate it via radio. You can only sing it like pre-colonial times.
  
  Ditto fishing: fine, you can have your customary fishing rights, but using customary technology.
  
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  October 19, 2022 2:43pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Is ram raiding protected from cultural appropriation?
  
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  October 19, 2022 6:29pm
kevn

@Maggie… ‘They’ need the assets to borrow the billions.
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October 19, 2022 10:35am
Maggie Pie

I really hate being around fat sweaty people 🙁
That’s the main reason I never go to a gym. Not that I need to anyway.

Although I would consider going to one like this….

https://twitter.com/InterestingPot/status/1582320771807911936
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October 19, 2022 11:50am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, it was a terrible war and many men were away fighting so women had to improvise.
  
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  October 19, 2022 1:51pm
- Paul Marsden
  
  Looks like a hangout for frustrated women.
  
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  October 19, 2022 6:39pm
Nickc2

To Whom it may Concern,
I must admit, I’m not in favour of the new KB functionality. It takes far too many actions to give an UP or DOWN tick to posts and the LIKE function at the bottom of a post only sends the user to all posts by topic.
Cheers,
Nickc2
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October 19, 2022 12:05pm
- Ghost
  
  What new function, you click the up or down and it votes. One click
  
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  October 19, 2022 12:12pm
  - Nickc2
    
    I read a post sent by e-mail. At the bottom of the page, there is a REPLY and Like option.
    If I select REPLY, I’m sent to the bottom of the Posts Page with the Poster’s name above the Text Box. If I select the Poster’s name, I am sent to the post where I can give an UP or DOWN tick and/or enter a reply.
    If I select the Like option, I am sent to the top of all the posts for that particular topic.
    Is that how the App is intended to function?
    
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    October 19, 2022 12:22pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Chairman of Eke Panuku announces plans for “urban kainga”

Could I suggest if you are a homeowner in the vicinity of this eyesore, you either immediately contact Mayor Brown with you concerns….or put your house on the market before it’s too late 🙁

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1582280515658297346
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October 19, 2022 2:10pm
- cmm
  
  Maori couldn’t build any more than a single storey dwelling, so attaching Maori mumbo-jumbo to a multi storey block of flats is pure bullshit.
  
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  October 19, 2022 2:37pm
- surfing
  
  I was looking at Eke Panuku projects — 100% of them are maori developments. . . at least the ones that were listed.
  
  This even surpasses the governments wildest wishes of 50% control.
  
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  October 19, 2022 3:04pm
alex Masterley

Aren’t multi-story blocks a form of residential colonialism?
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October 19, 2022 2:39pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Yes. Air travel is also colonianism. And electricity. And the 40hr work week. And human rights. And welfare. And, and, and…
  
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  October 19, 2022 2:46pm
  - MCōs
    
    Ain’t none of those things in colonialist NZ
    Whitey brought guns, disease and segregation.
    
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    October 19, 2022 3:18pm
  - peterwn
    
    And piped water.
    
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    October 19, 2022 8:06pm
- MCōs
  
  Interesting you say that.
  Clearing slums and putting the the residents into high rise can be a terrible idea.
  
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  October 19, 2022 3:08pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    TBF you have to look at the slums they were replacing. We possibly don’t understand what life in the UK was like if you didn’t live at Downton Abbey.
    
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    October 19, 2022 7:24pm
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130215881/why-did-oranga-tamariki-let-boy-go-back-to-parents-who-nearly-killed-him

Why is it that, when yet another child is murdered or beaten to within an inch of its life, Oranga Tamariki claims that they couldn’t do anything.
Just read the weasel words in the article by a top level spokesperson from OT.
What can they do then?
Why are the so called “care givers” always believed when they spout out these BS lies about the kid being “clumsy” and falling over a lot?
Who is Oranga Tamariki actually for?
The children?
The violent abusers?
Office workers under political pressure to lower abuse statistics?
OT does not seem to be fit for purpose.
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October 19, 2022 3:08pm
- cmm
  
  Just about everyone was part of this:
  * Obviously the abusing parents.
  * The loving whanau around them who know what is going on.
  * The neighbours etc.
  * OT.
  * The doctors and nurses who went along with the clumsy story (probably due to being scared of branded racist etc).
  * The politicians who see this happen again and again and refuse to address the issue, but instead misdirect towards colonialism etc where no solution will ever be found.
  
  I’ll bet what we see is only the tip of the iceberg.
  
  Almost certainly 99% of these cases get swept under the rug and it is only when there is a dead body (or an extremely broken body) that cannot be hidden that the cases actually get any attention.
  
  Most of the time, the “clumsy”kid will go home to be “clumsy” again…. until he’s old enough to fend for himself and join a gang etc.
  
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  October 19, 2022 4:22pm
- Nickc2
  
  OT is a bottomless bucket into which this Govt mandates copious quantities of taxpayer money must be poured in order that Maori can supposedly protect their kids from those who gave birth or sired them and their mates.
  Clearly, this mandate and decisions handed down by a kindred judiciary aren’t working and must be terminated forthwith.
  One people, one nation, and one system for all must replace this fiasco known as OT and all who serve therein.
  
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  October 19, 2022 7:13pm
70andstilllearning

Ummm. Interesting or interesting.
https://www.travellerdeclaration.govt.nz/

“From Thursday 20 October 2022, travellers flying to New Zealand by air do not need to complete a New Zealand Traveller Declaration.”
So good – one more piece of shyte our of my hair. Pretty well back to normal int’n travel.

But what happened to Minister Viral’s “….this is the first piece of a more extended system”?
Ah!
“Watch this website for more information about how the declaration will evolve and replace the New Zealand paper arrival card next year.”

Wonder if Cindy will let her go ahead with something next year for monitoring New Zealanders returning home?

Also interesting to note that only MSM to pick it up was newstalkZb .

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/lifestyle/travel/new-zealand-scraps-pandemic-traveller-declarations-for-arrivals/
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October 19, 2022 3:26pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from tennis txts…

5 ants rented an apartment from Kainga Ora with another 5 ants.

Now they’re tenants.

😀 😀 😀
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October 19, 2022 4:01pm
- cmm
  
  The cooking sherry is for cooking.
  
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  October 19, 2022 4:12pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Kainga Orta called pest control…now they’re ‘remnants’ 😀
    
    And it’s a chablis by the wey
    
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    October 19, 2022 5:51pm
Ghost

Talking about a waste of money by-election

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/west-coast/130220268/newly-elected-westland-councillor-resigns-after-10-days-citing-personal-beliefs-prompts-byelection

His candidate profile promised citizens a list of jobs “I can and will do”.

But 10 days after being voted in, Westland District councillor Ian Hustwick has resigned, sparking a by-election that could cost the West Coast ratepayers $15,000.
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October 19, 2022 5:47pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’m surprised he didn’t read the fine print before he stood for election. I’ve also seen how Councillors are captives of Wellington and the system and there is no way I would consent to working under those constraints.
  
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  October 19, 2022 6:24pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  OneEwes sends intrepid reporter to The Tron in order to gauge ‘mood-of-the-city’ on upcoming by-election.
  
  Both of the bene’s interviewed in the CBD say…. “they are disappointed Sharma chose to resign. It’s going to cost them a million dollars”
  
  Well butter my butt and call me a muffin 😀
  
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  October 19, 2022 6:56pm
Ian Boag

Bit of a brain fart here.

Ram raids. Road spikes are reasonably portable. So put some inside the doors at night. That will seriously impede baddies ability to drive off.

In the daytime you could even put some down in the doorway with a central (fenced) walk-through path.

Would seriously impact ability of baddies to roar into the sunset. I think.

Dunno … ?
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October 19, 2022 7:14pm
- RdM
  
  Inside at night maybe, but they might learn to only just break the doors, and brake before spikes.
  
  In daytime, if portable, they could lift them first?
  
  Nice idea though!
  
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  October 19, 2022 7:20pm
  - Colville
    
    The people who are doing the ram raids don’t lack for stolen cars… Leaving the broken car in the shop just means they have to steal another.
    
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    October 19, 2022 9:21pm
Ghost

Sounds like he could be better funded than labour and greens candidates

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/wealthy-businessman-roshan-nauhria-willing-to-financially-back-gaurav-sharma.html

Newshub can reveal rebel MP Gaurav Sharma has the financial backing of one of New Zealand’s richest Indian businessmen – Roshan Nauhria.

The Prime Minister is still yet to set a date for the Hamilton West byelection – triggered by Sharma’s resignation – but is already attempting to paint Labour as the “underdog”.
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October 19, 2022 8:47pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Ardern and Labour have been very fooli$h pi$$ing off the Indian community in NZ.
  
  and I can’t $ee folk$ from Zhōng guó having any faith now in contributing to Labour’s coffers.
  
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  October 19, 2022 8:54pm
Ghost

Sadly it looks like we will see murders from these little pricks soon

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gunpoint-robbery-youth-raids-auckland-bottle-store-video-shows-terrified-worker/APHIXM2XDIVQV43YBJQEIV5POI/

A terrified shop assistant had a gun brandished in his face by a youth who raided a Grey Lynn bottle store yesterday afternoon as children walked past on their way home from school.
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