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krazykiwi

Italia! Vai, sei una buona cosa.
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September 27, 2022 8:00am
- krazykiwi
  
  In case Google Translate isn’t at hand … Italy! Go, you good thing.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:02am
- oldfella
  
  KK: what’s that in Te Reo. That’s the only language that matters these days. //
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:56am
- lastmanstanding
  
  We need her type here instead of Cindy. This is a feisty lady whose going to kick arse. Lets hope the Italians realise that. I see the Kraut that heads the EU wasnt happy. Doesnt think she is “their” type of leader. Great.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She might go all Mussolini
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:22am
- kevn
  
  @kk… Not even a mention in the Horrid this morning. Nothing.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It is a commie rag
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:09am
  - rjay
    
    P 14: “Hard right bloc poised to take power in Italy”
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:21am
    - leoj
      
      The description “hard left” seems to be never used.
      Funny that.
      China, Nth Korea, Russia, Venezuela, the state of Victoria, New Zealand (if the Red Queen has her way) ……
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:03am
      - kowtow
        
        ………Greens.
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:51am
      - Jake Dee
        
        The Chinese and North Korean governments are about as far right wing and (neo)-reactionary as can be imagined. How long we will have to wait before we see a rainbow flag flying over the pride march in Tianamen square ? We all know Kim jong-un is a king and his grandfather, the patriarch of the dynasty has a giant golden statue in Pyongyang.
        It’s America with the far left regime.
        
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        September 27, 2022 6:03pm
    - kevn
      
      @rjay… My $1 pw on-line option doesn’t go that far. Don’t do a paper version.
      A wonderful P 14 acknowledgement//
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:33am
      - GJM
        
        have a look at the bypas spaywalls plug in for Firefox. Save a $1 per week towards coffee
        
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        September 27, 2022 4:55pm
    - cmm
      
      Funny how Herald are calling them “Neo fascist” etc.
      
      But somehow the Nazi-inspired Azov Regiment in Ukraine are puppies and unicorns.
      
      It’s hard to keep up.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:40am
      - mawm
        
        Standing up for one’s country, people, church and family is the new very extreme, far right, fascist, white-supremacist, misogynistic, homophobic racist. It can probably be shortened into “a river of filth”.
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:15am
  - Ra Henare
    
    But Horrid has an item for Liam Dan
    Lower Kiwi Dollar blah blah.
    Not sure he(Dan) is economically literate…
    
    “”But if we can look past the immediate pressures of the cost of living crisis – admittedly no easy trick for many Kiwis – a lower dollar isn’t such a bad thing for our economy in the longer term.
    
    New Zealand is an exporting nation and a low currency means our goods are more competitively priced in international markets.””
    
    Perhaps he has missed the bit that our balance of payments is negative and has been for a while
    
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/balance-of-payments-and-international-investment-position-june-2022-quarter/
    
    Means we spend more than we earn(now aint that a surprise).
    
    With $Kiwi down against $USD and $AUD.
    ALL our imports will cost more,
    
    Yes the exporting Farmers will get more. Probably about offset their increased energy and fertiliser costs given they are dairy and not mutton farmers.
    
    Yea, yea, I know I should be labelled stupid for reading the horrid. But I get perverse pleasure clicking on all their premium content as I am not paying……I have a browser addon… 🙂
    
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    September 27, 2022 3:21pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Oh you masochist, you………… 🙂
      
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      September 27, 2022 4:50pm
- oldfella
  
  “Grazie, Italia”: The Right wins again in Europe … US media freaks out on schedule
  https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/09/26/grazie-italia-the-right-wins-again-in-europe-media-freaks-out-on-schedule-n498967
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:33am
Warren

I am no David Fisher fan or normally someone that would post what he pens, but is this corruption by the Police and even our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and the Government as it was them that started the ball rolling with those seeking to escape the lockdowns of Covid-19.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/police-used-false-information-to-access-powerful-network-of-surveillance-cameras/BEVYOQHF3N5VAED3CD7LXSPTAU/
How does anyone know how much imput the Government had in this after Chris Hipkins was caught out lying over the two suspected sex workers breaking Covid-19 rules and the bullshit they used to try and cover up that story.
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September 27, 2022 8:01am
- Random T Person
  
  Astonishing and a demonstration that there are no principles any longer when it comes to people illegally catching a cold.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Police and the Govt acting like the FBI – corrupt.
  They have to go before NZ ends up being like the US Democrats (and RINOs)
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:13am
  - Bloody Dago
    
    Yes and watch this newly minted Stasi bureaucracy start separating you and me from this ever expanding communist dictatorship.
    https://www.tepunahamatatini.ac.nz/our-team/principal-investigators/
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:57am
- Harry Knuts
  
  NZ Police lied and setup a false “stolen car” accusation to track down people that have been found to date not a fault. Sounds like a public apology is in hand from Cuddles Coster.
  Yet the Covid Police can’t keep NZ’ers safe in malls and in the hoods. 13yrs olds running rings round them. Looks like trust in the NZ Police is at an all-time low.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:28am
  - Nickc2
    
    What is it with apologies in this country? Almost every day, someone’s calling for an apology about something.
    Apologies are cheap and easy to give and at the end of the day, they mean fuck all. Just look at Hipkins’s last one, he was reading from a script given/written for him by someone else not associated in any way with the action being apologised for.
    IMO, the individual should be charged with slander in the Hipkins case and if such an offence, if found guilty, constituted a jail term exceeding two years (I think), he should have lost his job.
    There are many more such instances committed by this Govt that require similar action but the public still calls for apologies.
    Why FFS!
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:53am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s one of the new age Peel Principles .
    
    Policing by deceit.
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:54am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Police can’t keep NZ’ers safe in malls and in the hoods. 13yrs olds running rings round them
    
    True. I bet that if you were God and could do whatever it takes to solve this problem, it would be fixed in no time flat.
    
    They steal a car – then head for the shops – roar in as a group waving weapons – break the cabinets – then retreat. Total time 5-10 minutes. They are masked. Cops would have about 5 minutes from call to get there in force. Pretty simple really ….
    
    So – share your solution with us ….
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:27pm
    - Ghost
      
      I’ve come to the conclusion some believe our police are psychics and should be at the scene of a crime before it happens
      
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      September 27, 2022 12:35pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Still waiting for Harry K’s solution.
        
        Much easier to mouth off about something bad than suggest a solution – even a partial one. Parking a few more $5000/hour helicopters over some big shopping centers might help …..
        
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        September 27, 2022 1:04pm
      - leoj
        
        Happy to help Harry….
        1. Sack Cuddles
        2. Drop the age of responsibility to 11. If a kid doesn’t understand right from wrong at age 11, he/she doesn’t deserve protection under any law.
        3. Build more prisons.
        4. Fill the prisons up with the bad bastards.
        5. All sentences to be minimum sentences and fully completed. No discounting.
        6. Put judges on the ballot along with the politicians. They need to be accountable too.
        
        Now, watch the soft-cock lefties have a heart attack. Be careful. Under this bastard of a government, health care is falling off a cliff.
        
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        September 27, 2022 1:54pm
      - Harry Knuts
        
        Your response is about as relaxed and dismissive as Chippie and Cuddles is on the escalating crime in the country. Suppose you only care when it directly affects you aye.
        
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        September 27, 2022 5:28pm
      - Ghost
        
        Wow, you must be psychic to invent that out of what I said
        
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        September 27, 2022 5:30pm
      - Ghost
        
        leoj I’d start off by making the parents responsible for the crimes their children are committing. For too long some have used their children with the knowledge that they will get let off.
        
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        September 27, 2022 5:31pm
    - Harry Knuts
      
      I’m not the one head of police or minister of police on 6 figure salary Ian. So, your reasoning of me having an opinion without a solution is invalid. I can, like every other taxpayer extend our views without being the one to have a solution. After all – policing is not my job nor is it yours but we pya the big tax money to the ones that is their job.
      
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      September 27, 2022 5:26pm
  - Local Miller
    
    I sent this to National today:
    
    Hi Nicola,
    
    Are National going to take the police and the commissioner of police to court over their fraudulent “stolen vehicle” claim regarding the 2 woman falsely accused of providing false information to get a Covid Border crossing permit.
    
    Surely now that a FOI request has brought this to light a prosecution is the first order of the day. The second order being to put in a FOI request for every other time the police have used this fraudulent tactic to track citizens.
    
    I no longer feel safe in my own country knowing that the police can, without due process and fraudulently gain information on my movements in this way.
    
    The 3rd action should therefore be to put in legislation that the police can only access this information with a search warrant and reasonable cause. Additionally the right to hold the digital recordings must be cut back to 48 hours again as the current 12 months allows private companies to retain information of my movements without my knowledge, which is a breach of my human rights and conflicts with a number of international agreements on the retention of personal information.
    
    Regards
    Local Miller (or at least my real name)
    027 nnn nnnn
    
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    September 27, 2022 8:22pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He was lying over the woman that broke into iso then came out rich as as a 19 yearold solo mum
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:24am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Unfortunately some police are professional liars right through the ranks. They are also highly political at the upper levels. So no, they cannot ever be trusted.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:56am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    Combine them with Crown prosecutors need to uphold the integrity of British law and Judges accountable to the King of England means there’s not a lot of trust in the judiciary as it stands…
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:09am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I guess you do not live in New Zealand – maybe that R. T. Rower place?
      Silly little boy.
      “Judges accountable to the King of England”
      
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      September 27, 2022 4:28pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        As the living embodiment of the Crown, the sovereign is regarded as the personification, or legal personality, of the New Zealand state,[8] with the state therefore referred to as His Majesty The King in Right of New Zealand,[n 7][50] or The Crown.[51] As such, the monarch is the employer of all government staff (including judges, members of the Defence Force, police officers, and parliamentarians), as well as the owner of all state land and buildings (Crown property including Crown land),[52] state-owned companies and agencies (Crown entities),[53] and the copyright for all government publications (Crown copyright).[54]
        
        I, [specify], swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her [or His] Majesty [specify the name of the reigning Sovereign], Her [or His] heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.[55]
        
        — Oath of Allegiance to the Sovereign
        
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_New_Zealand
        
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        September 27, 2022 6:42pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Courts
        
        The sovereign is responsible for rendering justice for all his subjects, and is thus traditionally deemed the fount of justice.[80] He does not personally rule in judicial cases; instead the judicial functions of the Royal Prerogative are performed in trust and in the King’s name by judges and justices of the peace. The monarch is immune from criminal prosecution, the notion in common law being that the sovereign “can do no wrong”;[81] the monarch cannot be prosecuted in his own courts for criminal offences. The monarch, and by extension the governor-general, also grants immunity from prosecution, exercises the royal prerogative of mercy,[19] and may pardon offences against the Crown, either before, during, or after a trial.
        
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        September 27, 2022 6:58pm
igm

This was sent to me by a friend, and oh, how true . . .
Last night I watched the late Queen’s funeral service and procession. While I am not a radical Royalist, this to me was an example of pure theatre and pageantry with a lineage of more than 2000 years of societal development. Even the church was more than 1000 years old.
Compare that to our New Zealand situation where we are being asked to put all that culture to one side, in favour of one advocated by a minority group whose only connection is that they are able to list a tribal ancestor, no matter how much diluted in their individual makeup. The culture we are being asked to recognise, as recently as 200 years ago, had no written language, engaged in cannibalism and slavery, had not invented the wheel, metal smelting or even basic pottery. They survived on violence, myth and legend, and had no concept of any basic sciences – mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology.
I cannot fathom the arrogance of these tribal people who persist in the myth that their ‘culture’ is somewhat superior to British culture, and that it has been damaged by colonialism.
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September 27, 2022 8:02am
- kevn
  
  @igm… Hope you don’t work for Bluebird. One of their employees got fired for having a similar themed private comment on FB.
  per Free Speech Union.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:06am
  - Dave
    
    And that is why, from this morning, I am refusing to eat Bluebird chips, though they’ve been my favourite for 10 years, and will soon contact them – tel:0800 730 123 – to politely explain that while companies have every right to market products in any language they prefer, they do not have a moral right to dismiss employees for their political views (shades of China’s social credit policy) and consumers have every right to refuse business with companies which attempt to dictate their employees’ freedom of speech.
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:01pm
    - leoj
      
      Have stopped shopping at Countdown due to their wokeness. I strongly object to companies imposing their ideology on us. Just do your job and leave us alone. Stick your woke where the sun don’t shine.
      
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      September 27, 2022 1:59pm
  - Sir Henry Morgan
    
    Where are more details on Bluebird firing an employee for ‘racism’? Didn’t realize he was actually fired. Disgusting if true.
    
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    September 27, 2022 3:44pm
- Black with a Vengeance
  
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  You can always bugger off to the caves of your Neanderthal ancestors.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:12am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Homo sapiens do not have neanderthal ancestors.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:32am
    - Yabster
      
      neanderthals don’t realise that though….
      
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      September 27, 2022 9:39am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
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      So you’re saying white people from the northern hemisphere are sub human ?
      
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      September 27, 2022 9:43am
      - rouppe
        
        I’m noticing an uptick in anti-democracy supporters using the “so you’re saying…” strategy.
        
        Which tends to reveal much more about how you think than the person you throw it at…
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:14am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No, I am saying that I have an intermediate knowledge of humanoid evolution.
        
        Why I am bothering with this?
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:26am
      - kevn
        
        @brain… Just here to amuse us on KB?
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:27am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        There’s an old saying BWAV; when you’re in a hole, stop digging. Just sayin’…
        
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        September 27, 2022 12:12pm
    - rangitoto
      
      They do to a small extent. About 2% via cross breeding back in the day. There was also some cross breeding with Denisovans which shows up in austronesian and some asian populations.
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:05am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Those with European ancestry do, generally about 2% Neanderthal. Some of those hottie neanderthal women apparently got knocked up by the invading Homo sapiens as they swept through Europe wiping them out. Africans, Asians and Americans seem to have missed out on neanderthal genes though.
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:37am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      That is not strictly true Benedict. I have seen some studies and stories pointing to trace Neanderthal genes in the human genome…. indicating some interbreeding and also they are some hybrid skeletons that have been found….
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:50am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Yes I am aware. The point I was making is that homo sapiens are not descended from neanderthals. Rather they both have common ancestors.
        
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        September 27, 2022 12:46pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Disagree. DNA analysis shows Eurasian populations have small amounts of Neanderthal ancestry.
      Bit of an obscure topic though.
      
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      September 27, 2022 6:10pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Are you triggered and then trolling. BAV? ….. please get current, Europeans are descended in the main from Cro-Magnon man – we killed off the Neanderthals in the main, maybe bred with a few of their females but mostly killed them all and ate them….
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:42am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
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      I have Irish/Scandi Viking roots from my Dad’s side and Samoan/Pasifikan from Mum.
      
      Don’t hate me cos I’m better than you, hate me cos I know it…😋
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:07am
      - rouppe
        
        With that ancestry, why do you – by way of your non de plume – only focus on half of it?
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:16am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        Who is hating on you – I am bored by your trolling its kind of lame….
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:50am
    - Don Beckett
      
      The Neanderthals were not killed of by Homo sapiens – there was some intermarriage, but they died off in the last ice age.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:35am
      - rangitoto
        
        No one really knows why Neanderthals and Denisovans went extinct.
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:11am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Why would we bugger off? we own the place now.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Hone, Marama, and Tame will be around to give you some facts soon
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:18am
- Opie
  
  All those things are of course true, yet when someone said as much on talk back radio – the host was then fired for not saying the guy was incorrect, which he wasn’t…
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:23am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    IIRC he called Maori society pre colonisation “stone age”. The problem is that the term is seen as an insult.
    
    Of course, its literal meaning is the period during which homo sapiens relied on stone tools. It preceded the bronze age during which humans discovered metal smelting. In turn this enabled a significant lift in the crafting of sophisticated tools.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:38am
    - Ehlana
      
      Ah, description without hysteria. Getting hard to remember when that was considered normal and facts were not something to get emotional about.
      
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      September 27, 2022 9:48am
    - Opie
      
      “had no written language, engaged in cannibalism and slavery, had not invented the wheel, metal smelting or even basic pottery”
      
      Pretty good description of the stone age.
      
      To be fair, the stone age was probably more advanced than early Maori culture.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:45am
      - Michael Johnston
        
        There were plenty of bronze-age cultures that were illiterate. And slavery was a hallmark of just about every pre-enlightenment culture. (Cannibalism not so much.)
        
        Archaeologists divide the stone age into the Palaeolithic and the Neolithic. There is nothing older than the Palaeolithic for humans. Pottery is a Neolithic invention. The wheel originated in the early bronze age (copper age) in Mesopotamia.
        
        Maori were basically Neolithic as far as I can tell. In some ways they were more advanced – they had rudimentary agriculture for example.
        
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        September 27, 2022 1:57pm
      - rangitoto
        
        Most of the time humans have been around was the paleolithic. The neolithic only came about since the end of the last ice age. Agriculture, pottery, animal domestication, stone polishing. Then the beginnings of metallurgy, the wheel, early writing systems and other tech.
        
        Polynesians did have some of these but for some reason lost the knowledge of pottery. They would be correctly described as a neolithic society meaning “new stone age”.
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:06pm
    - rouppe
      
      Maori were technologically stone age, pure colonisation.
      
      The furore was that the lack of qualification allowed detractors to acuse them of saying something else
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:21am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
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    British culture is very much on a par with present Russian culture.
    
    It is superior to indigenous Pasifikan culture in the same way that Russian culture is to Ukrainian…that is to say, NOT EVEN OWW!!!
    
    I suppose you don’t think Russian colonization of Ukraine is damaging either ?
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:40am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “British culture is very much on a par with present Russian culture.”
      
      That would indeed make a good high school debating topic. However it is not a fact.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:28am
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
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        I tend not to make the distinction between European cultures still holding on to frail, stale, pale male ideologies from the 19th century which still govern their imperialist/colonial identities and aspirations.
        
        Europe is not far removed from the days of Willy, Nicky and Georgie. The cousins who killed millions for the sake of …???
        
        https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/georgie-willy-nicky-three-monarchs-one-world-war-36260/
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:45am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Sorry I am done for the day.
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:56am
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
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        Facts got in the way of your cool story…huh?
        
        Nice cuppa and a wee lie down should see you good for tomorrow.
        
        (Mod – perhaps everyone can go have a cuppa and a lay down)
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:01am
  - Nickc2
    
    BTW, who’s responsible for drafting the laws applicable to hate speech. It was Kris Faafoi but he resigned after finding he was out of his depth.
    I think the mantle has been passed to Willie Jackson and while he will also be totally out of his depth, he will make an attempt at the task due to his Communist like aspirations, and that’ll be disastrous.
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:11am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      No, the mantle has been passed to the new Justice Minister, Kiritapu Allen. It’s something we will have to watch very closely indeed. Ms Allen projects a veneer of reasonableness that may not necessarily be authentic.
      
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      September 27, 2022 12:14pm
      - Nickc2
        
        TKS. No doubt there will be Maori Caucus input with the emphasis on criminalising anything that shows Maori in what they interpret to be a bad light.
        
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        September 27, 2022 12:54pm
      - Michael Johnston
        
        I don’t think the hate speech legislation will be back in this term of government. It was unpopular to start with and both Faafoi and Ardern did us the favour of messing up the publicity so badly that it became a massive liability.
        
        There are some things, like three waters and compulsory unemployment insurance, that Labour seem determined to go to the wall over. But I don’t think hate speech is one of those things.
        
        As implacably opposed as I was and remain to that legislation, it would be kind-of good if they did try again. It would turn likely defeat in 2023 into nearly certain rout.
        
        Unlike some of Labour’s other ruinous policies, hate speech legislation would be a doddle to repeal. And Seymour would insist on it being gone by lunchtime before agreeing to support a National-led government. So, I’d be prepared to put up with it for a few months if it meant seeing Labour utterly buried next year.
        
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        September 27, 2022 2:12pm
      - Roberta
        
        I think the hate speech legislation could easily sneak in this term. Jacinda and Labour have been working on it for a long time. Note her passion for the “Christchurch Call” which is a too-convenient excuse for internet censorship. Just like they have been working on Maori ownership of New Zealand’s water for a long time, cannily concealing it from their coalition partner, they will be working on concealing their limitation of free speech from us. It would be extremely advantageous for them to be able to limit media and social media commentary pre-election. Jacinda would love to shut down half the comments on blogs like this, if she could. Has she come out to protect the employee unfairly dismissed from Birdseye? No, deafening silence from our self-titled “kind” Ardern.
        
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        September 27, 2022 8:16pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  “no matter how much diluted in their individual makeup”
  very diluted in NZ. Doubt there is anyone 100% Maori left in NZ. They’ve/We’ve all cross pollinated at some point over the decades.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:30am
  - Ehlana
    
    There’s probably no-one left who doesn’t have at least one non-Maori ancestor, but passing on DNA seems to be a bit more random – you get half of yours from each of your parents, but it doesn’t follow that your children have one quarter from each grandparent. I think one of the TV presenters did a DNA test and found out basically all her DNA was Maori, even though she knew she had non-Maori ancestors as well.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:07am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Sounds like the DNA test was faulty.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:41am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      but it doesn’t follow that your children have one quarter from each grandparent.
      
      Yes, it does.
      
      However, because there has been a random allocation of chromosomes during the formation of sex cells, it does not follow that a grandchild receives exactly a quarter of the genes that define the
      “ethnicity” (or the appearance) of the contributing grandparent.
      
      I appear similar in features to my maternal grandmother – less so to my mother, my father or my other 3 grandparents.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:57am
      - Ehlana
        
        Thanks for the clarification Maggy. Perhaps that is what happened to the presenter – the appearance genes didn’t get passed down to her.
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:29am
      - Jake Dee
        
        but it doesn’t follow that your children have one quarter from each grandparent.
        
        Yes, it does.
        
        No it doesn’t if a parent is also a grandparent. No so common today of course but trace ancestry back far enough and incest is an inevitability
        
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        September 27, 2022 6:15pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    BwaV. Sometimes you speak the truth; sometimes you give an alternative that few agree with; sometimes you are contradictory, and sometimes you are downright nasty.
    It would be good if you kept it at least slightly respectful.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:40am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      It’s the dilution in my individual makeup that’s perpetually conflicted…
      
      If only I were as pure as the driven snow.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:49am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Enjoy your Diabetes BWAV
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      September 27, 2022 11:13am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    There are some within the Maori elite that would rather have pure Maori blood lines. ” only a Maori will marry into our family”. Remember Morrison and Harawera been some that have said this publicly in the past.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:42am
- Paulus
  
  To get on the bandwagon and the Maori roll you need to have 1/420 parts.
  Where do I sign as I want part of the bandwagon of goodness.
  Can I elect an Iwi to belong ?
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:27am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    You got any kids of marrying age?
    
    You might be past your use by date but if you’ve got decent genes and some cash as a dowry I’m sure we can assimilate your bloodline.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:52am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Mate, your health outcomes don’t look to rosy yourself so don’t look to us to save you.
      Is bad enough we will have to pay for you.
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:51am
- Stellaboxer
  
  They didn’t have the sewing needle or any way of boiling water. Think on that .
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:36am
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  The British Empire: A legacy of violence?
  
  British schoolchildren have long been taught comforting fairy tales about the beneficence of the largest empire in history, but recent historical scholarship is painting a quite different picture…
  
  https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/25/opinions/britain-empire-history-kenya-bergen/index.html
  
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  Its time you decolonized and lost the blinkered view of your precious British culture and it’s monarchy don’t you think ?
  
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  September 27, 2022 6:52pm
  - Local Miller
    
    I’d not put much store into a CNN education opinion piece.
    
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    September 27, 2022 8:31pm
  - than
    
    The French had their empire after their monarchy fell. The monarchy was almost completely irrelevant to the empire. They were window dressing then as much as they are now.
    
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    September 27, 2022 8:50pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Violence hasn’t changed before, during or after the British Empire.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:09pm
Scott

In response to criminals smashing and robbing stores in broad daylight the police and the retailers association have told people not to get involved, someone could get hurt. It’s only property which can be replaced, they say.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/09/expert-warns-public-to-stay-clear-of-brazen-robberies-amid-fears-innocent-bystanders-will-get-hurt.html

Well it’s more serious than that, I’m afraid. This breaks the social contract between government and the people. The state has the monopoly of force. We give up our right to use force with the expectation the state will maintain law and order.

If the state and the police can’t or won’t maintain law and order the social contract is broken. Surely giving the shop owner the right to defend himself and his property would be better? What about security guards that are trained and licensed to use force? At the moment security guards do not intervene to stop these incidents.

Should we rethink our attitudes to guns? At the moment only criminal gangs appear to have guns. Maybe we need armed responsible citizens to restore order?

As it is there is no solution in the offing. Labour is not changing, the police are not changing, nothing is going to change. If anything it will only get worse.
The lack of urgency to restore law and order is infuriating.
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September 27, 2022 8:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yep, train and arm security. Govt ruling means they can only have one bullet, like Deputy Barney Fife.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:20am
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  Maybe we need armed responsible citizens to restore order?
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  Who’s willing to step up and be our Kyle Rittenhouse ?
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:53am
- Philview
  
  No doubt the pain of colonisation is causing these young people to lash out by robbing stores. The robbers are the real victims…….
  No wonder the Far Right is on the rise around the world.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:19am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
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    Far right being code for white supremacy.
    
    Which you’re totally fine with ?
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:57am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Far left being the commitment to equality of outcome regardless of cost which our pathetic student government supports.
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:39am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Sorry Black, but I think you will find that the white supremacists have been pretty much on the left of the political spectrum
      
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      September 27, 2022 12:56pm
    - Philview
      
      Er no. Actually it is mostly white neo Marxists peddling the current colonisation BS to excuse anti social behaviour. They are anarchists. If politicians will not stand up for law and order then the public will turn to voices who will.
      
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      September 27, 2022 1:30pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      “White Supremacy” is a term so bastardized and politicized as to be absolutely useless. It can meaning anything from violent street gangs to refusing to rename a college just because the guy who founded it made money in Asia in the 19th century.
      It also implies that non whites can’t be right wing. Hardly the case.
      
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      September 27, 2022 6:21pm
  - jon
    
    Note too, how the AFD in Germany, has had, an increase of 5% in polling in the last six months and now sitting at 14%. Wonder where that support will be, in say 12 months?
    
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    September 27, 2022 4:38pm
- The Housekeeper
  
  Scott, my family has decided that if any of us becomes the victim of violent crime we won’t bother involving the police, we’ll deal with it ourselves.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:38am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Police are not longer permitted to chase young offenders, so unless there’s a patrol car nearby and they catch the thugs at the scene of the crime, there are far less likely to be any arrests.
  
  Experienced Police officers are leaving the job in significant numbers, hugely frustrated about having their hands quite literally tied behind their backs. Between the efforts of the Government and Police National HQ, policing has been redefined, and not in a good way.
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:25pm
Southern Raider

Hard to not think the school attack in Russian wasn’t actually orchestrated by Putin to divert attention to Ukraine

He has form with the Moscow apartment bombings blamed on Chechnya in the lead up to his first Presidential election
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- rangitoto
  
  Putin has summoned the governor of Dagestan to Moscow due to resistance to the mobilisation. They guy will have to be careful of standing near windows are drinking Putin’s tea.
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:24am
Maggie Pie

WOW!!

The new PRIME MINISTER of Italy 😀

Let’s hope this is contagious……

https://twitter.com/FuryOriental/status/1574241040420458496

>>full screen/sound up
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September 27, 2022 8:07am
- Centrist
  
  Brilliant. Great quote from G.K. Chesterton too.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:15am
- Frank the tank
  
  Imagine if we had a right wing politician like this in New Zimbabwe.
  
  We might have someone we can vote for without gritted teeth and swallowing a dead rat.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:22am
- mogg
  
  After listening to this woman I now realise that I am classed as ‘far-right’, so were my parents and all of my friends! The world really has been turned on it’s head.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:27am
  - Charmaine Hawke
    
    If what she is saying is “far-right” then that is a badge I will wear proudly. I would rather be a name instead of a number and we need to remember that by using their names and stories and not the number of atrocities was how Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn helped to bring down the Soviet Union.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:05am
  - Paulus
    
    It is what the so called left wing media55 are calling her !
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:29am
    - Nickc2
      
      Britain, then Italy. Who’s next?
      I think it’s great, the EU is falling apart.
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:22am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    If by any (leftist) measure you are not on their team you are far right. Even having a differing opinion on any banal topic that the left lionise you will be labelled and categorised as Far Right.
    
    Therein lies the absurdity of their hypocricy.
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:05am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    It’s an effective propaganda tactic – painting reasonable opposition as extremists (far right, nazis, racists etc). There would be a lot of value in adopting it in political discourse – eg if all NAt and Act MPs were to start referring to greens as ‘far left greens’ and also a lot of left wing commentators and ‘journalists’ in NZ as “far left” or “Extreme left”. Over time it would have a big impact on general public if they came to associate left wing parties, pundits and commentators subconsciously as “far left” and therefore extreme. The sheeply population want to be one of the crowd, adopting common beliefs for psychological reasons (fitting in is a strong drive) and so are put off by the unpopularity implied by “far”.
    
    This is what has been done by the left to Act on the right over the last 10-20 years to marginalise them
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Puts our Dear Communicator to shame.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:41am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Maggie Pie; some of your Twitter links have been of questionable quality.
  This one is brilliant.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:46am
- Alex
  
  Chinese only have numbers not names. Good video on Maloni Maggie.
  We need her type in NZ.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:56am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… True PASSION right there.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She means business
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Contagious? We already have someone who talks with the hands//
  
  This will be a big change, let’s see if it is a good change.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:26am
- Opie
  
  Intelligent, attractive and stands for things that will make society stronger.
  
  As opposed to a buck toothed vacant head socialist who seems intent on destroying society.
  
  The Italians have obviously had enough of the rubbish. The media is stil trying to take her down though – pretty much every article refers to her as a far right fascist.
  
  What you would give to have her as PM here!
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:30am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Aah, so that’s what it means to be ‘far right’.
  Count me in.
  
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  September 27, 2022 6:11pm
hullkiwi

Twenty four hours until the biggest revolution in retail shopping opens.
Tomorrow the Auckland region will see the biggest upheaval in retail shopping in the country’s history. Are the usual suspects and the Aussie retail chains ready for real competition?
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September 27, 2022 8:08am
- oldfella
  
  HK: I’m sure some local thugs are already planning a Costco ram raid. //
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I am guessing you won’t be able to get near the place.
  Anchorage, Alaska Costco is huge. Country only has 736000 and 288000 live in Anchorage.
  Bulk buying. Example. Lipton teabags US$ 7.36? But that is for 300. Can’t buy smaller. Jack Daniels 1.75L, US$ 26. Petrol, tyres, appliances, phones, TVs, coffee of coarse. Clothing, fresh baked food, frozen meat, and wait for it — ready? Coffins.
  NZ is in for a shakedown!
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:38am
  - Sacha
    
    I guess some will load up their trucks and bring supplies to the provinces, and make a good profit.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:07am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Petrol was $2.379 on Saturday.
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:13pm
krazykiwi

A good essay – The Great Unvaxxed – Lies, Damned Lies and the BBC. I know quite a few unvaxxed who have been subjected to the gaslighting and abuse so elegantly described by the author.

Reliable data analysis of vaccine efficacy is highly dependent on reliable estimates of the population of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people. Professor Norman Fenton, a mathematician by training and Professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University of London, has been looking into this for some time now. On 12th August, he released a short bombshell of a video that puts yet another nail in the coffin of the UK Government’s vaccine data analysis.
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For me, one key take-home from Professor Fenton’s exposé of the BBC’s latest propaganda stunt is that science and statistics are simply tools. Like all tools they are subject to good-faith use and bad-faith abuse. A hammer in the hands of a reliable builder will dependably drive nails into floorboards. But hammers are also used by thieves to smash car windows. The BBC is a propaganda machine, and a statistic placed anywhere in a BBC narrative is guilty until proven innocent.

Vaccinated versus unvaccinated statistics have been wielded as a tool in an information war where the unvaccinated have been comprehensively dehumanised as a tiny minority of deviant ignoramuses and scapegoated as a threat to society greater than Al Qaeda and Isis. Statistics have been abused in bad faith to gaslight the unvaccinated into believing that they are part of a triflingly small band of idiots, trifling enough that no-one would miss them if the majority decided to dispense with them. At the height of the spittle-flecked fury directed at the unvaxxed, the message of Fleet Street Fox and other hateful demagogues was clear – it would be wise for the unvaccinated to wave a white flag in the battle to retain sovereignty over their bodies. And, paradoxically, science under the banner of progressivism was enlisted for this hate campaign.

It is quite conceivable that a society in thrall to a data-driven technocracy could dispense with 25% of its population on the grounds that this ‘backward’ segment refuses to bow to the diktats of biomedical technocracy and is therefore impeding society’s Great Leap Forward to technocratic utopia. It’s been done before, and we don’t appear to have learned many lessons.
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September 27, 2022 8:11am
- hullkiwi
  
  Didn’t that happen here?
  
  About the BBC, there is a short promo clip that is run on BBC World with Fergus Welch (the BBC’s Health & Medical Editor), listen with a critical ear and you realise he knows he is guilty of having pumped out propaganda BS on the airwaves to suit a narrative.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:23am
- cmm
  
  The tools and hammer analogy is exactly why people such as myself can make valid commentary on the CV19 “science” without being virologists.
  
  I am a scientist, which means I have a scientific training and approach to analysis. But more, I have some training in statistics (to second year uni) which is vastly more than most researchers ever encounter.
  
  Therefore I can make a valid observation on the way statistics have been used (and abused) and can therefore make some observations on the validity of the findings.
  
  If a hammer has been used as a screwdriver, then the cabinet has been built wrongly. You don’t need to be an expert carpenter to understand that.
  
  Statistics is an extremely non-intuitive discipline. Even those with PhDs in statistics have often not built an intuitive “feel” for how it works. I, with 2nd year stats under my belt, don’t rate myself an expert in stats by any means, but I do have a basic grasp. Unfortunately very few people using statistical methods as part of their research have any understanding whatsoever.
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:34am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    Don’t have to be a scientist to know there were 11.8 million vaccinations in NZ, with 4.13 million fully vaccinated being 81.3% so keep bragging and sending money to your secret contact on KB preparing for his trip then to England to lay the possible groundwork for becoming a new Queen of a message board. Your finest hour financing shit-throwing in a country not your own. You need to be congratulated for knowing that a hammer is not a screwdriver, bragging “vastly more” not so much.
    How modest of you not to rate yourself an expert when everything you write shouts otherwise.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:11am
    - krazykiwi
      
      For most, bitter loathing is an ill-fitting suit but for you Brian, it appears designed by Savile Row. Why not throw it off completely? It is never too late.
      
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      September 27, 2022 9:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Built wrongly. A hammer is a screwdriver. A screwdriver is a screw turner. Just in case someone wanted to know.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:42am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      A hammer is a screwdriver.
      
      I don’t get this.
      
      What do you mean?
      
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      September 27, 2022 11:46am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        It means you can hammer a wood screw into wood.
        
        A screwdriver is kind of misnamed as it is in fact a combo device applying downward force (driving) with torque (turning force) Both enable the screw to carve a hole into the wood while self threading itself at the same time.
        
        But its name of screw driver is probably most apt as most of the cutting force into the wood is imparted by the downward driving force…
        
        A word game by Steve is all Maggy
        
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        September 27, 2022 11:58am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yeah JimBobJoe. I have done it. Bash the screw in half way, then turn it. This is not rough. Labour time is money.
        
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        September 27, 2022 12:18pm
- MCōs
  
  The author seems to be skeptical about everything
  Including 9/11
  I’d be interested in his views on that topic https://twitter.com/rusereshoniwa/status/1574452467890360326?s=21&t=Olza_SiDbg1OJxU6O4CplA
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:43am
  - cmm
    
    There are certainly things to be skeptical about wrt 9/11.
    
    For example, the way the Saudi connection got air brushed.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:20am
    - Lance
      
      Or how explosives were built into the towers when they were made… no… wait, that was proven to be total bullshit.
      
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      September 27, 2022 9:55am
    - MCōs
      
      Is that what inferring?
      For a guy who writes this melodramatic statement
      “the unvaccinated have been comprehensively dehumanised as a tiny minority of deviant ignoramuses and scapegoated as a threat to society greater than Al Qaeda and Isis”
      his views on 9/11 or any of those other topics mentioned in those tweets are likely to be similarly biased.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:25am
      - krazykiwi
        
        As an unvaccinated person I assert that statement to be accurate. On what basis do you suggest otherwise?
        
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        September 27, 2022 10:28am
      - ISeeRed
        
        If “river of filth” isn’t dehumanising to you, WTF is?
        
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        September 27, 2022 2:54pm
- Spoff
  
  https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-26th-september-2022
  “Are We Governed by Madmen?”
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    One of the best sources of news analysis out there.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:21am
- ClanMcleod
  
  KK – I posted about this the other day, not sure if you saw it but it is relevant to your post.
  Chris Trotter from a year ago, berating the unvaccinated for not listening to the “message” and for failing to do their duty by refusing to take part in this experiment.
  
  To those who complain that the Prime Minister is unnecessarily and unethically stigmatising the vaccine hesitant and resistant, there is only one genuinely ethical retort: They have stigmatised themselves
  
  For these Kiwis, the Covid proposition is fast resolving itself into a very simple binary: Get vaccinated for society, or, get excluded from society. That, essentially, was the Prime Minister’s message from the podium on Friday, 22 October 2021.
  
  It beggars belief to argue that more than a tiny number of such individuals exist.
  
  …not at all helpful to a Government struggling with the problem of what to do with citizens who refuse to acknowledge either the validity of “The Science”, or their obligations to the collective welfare of the society in which they live.
  
  After all, the proudly vaccine resistant – the so-called “anti-vaxxers” – cannot even point to a brutalised upbringing in poverty as the explanation for their selfishness. In the avowed and proud anti-vaxxer, the state is confronted with the sort of reckless solipsism that it is actually dangerous to ignore.
  
  In resolving these dilemmas, the Vaccination Certificate emerges as the only viable vector for the virtues of both the Carrot and the Stick.
  
  If all it takes is a couple of more-or-less painless shots in the arm to gain admission to the footy and the most fashionable music festivals, then WTFN?
  
  For older New Zealanders the looming possibility of “No Jab. No Job” should also hurry along the stragglers. Though pointedly left out of the Prime Minister’s Friday speech, “No Jab. No Job” is only a fast-tracked parliamentary bill away from further arming the authorities against the uncooperative minority.
  
  They (government) have a whole raft of concerns over and above the paranoid fantasies of anti-vaxxers to consider. There are people whose mental fragility is fast becoming critical.
  
  …..the relentless selfishness of a handful of solipsists and anomic lumpenproletarians…..
  
  That she (Ardern) is now reaching – however tentatively – for “The Stick” is incontrovertibly the correct moral choice.
  
  These are astonishing comments. They don’t age well.
  One thing he said at the end that was accurate, though not in the way he intended, was this:
  
  our democratically-elected government has both the right and the duty to protect the New Zealand people from harm. Indeed, the safety of the people is its supreme duty. Those whose conduct threatens the safety of the people cannot be located anywhere else but in the wrong.
  
  He’s correct. But the “safety of the people” was put at risk by Ardern, Hipkins, Bloomfield, Baker and the host of other “experts” and media shills who drove and enabled this experiment. They are in the wrong. They need to admit it. Now. Then we need a Royal Commission to identify the perpetrators and hold them to account.
  
  I would like to know if, due to the now available evidence re the failures of covid policies, has he changed his position. If not, why?
  
  I don’t wish to berate or harass Trotter, I don’t need an apology. I’d like him to acknowledge that he got it badly wrong.
  Here’s the full article.
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/112893/those-who-complain-prime-minister-unnecessarily-and-unethically-stigmatising
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:20am
  - Simon
    
    “Get vaccinated for society, or, get excluded from society.”
    
    Classic. That’s a keeper.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:40am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes, there will be thousands of leaders, ‘experts’ and commentators who must now be wishing for an Unpublish button. Some will achieve this by strong-arming media and Internet archives, but for most their tyranny-supporting publications will stay visible, a monument to their profound foolishness.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      That is why they head for the hills?
      Blofeld is leaving.
      Fauci is leaving.
      They have left a shit stain and want nothing to do with ‘why they left it’
      
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      September 27, 2022 9:49am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      I’m sure you, like myself and many other, have bookmarked, downloaded and screenshot much of the very important, incriminating stuff.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:26am
    - Observer of Life
      
      KK: Has Chris “Get Vaccinated” “Get Boosted” Bishop removed this from his name tag yet? Bloody fool.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:34pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Honestly using his logic, there is a MUCH better case for making the MMR vaccine compulsory in children. Because it actually works.
    
    Most people who have been infected with COVID were vaccinated who caught it from other vaccinated people. His argument is ridiculous.
    
    Just imagine the reaction of parents if most of the kids vaccinated against measles went on to get measles.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:55am
  - Spoff
    
    In my estimation, a very important interview during which a great number of jig-saw pieces fall into place:
    https://rumble.com/v1lbjvd-the-dark-truth-of-americas-federation-of-state-medical-boards.html
    
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    September 27, 2022 7:24pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      Spoff: Definitely worth watching.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:36pm
Cassandra

It’s about time Europe started waking up. Note the threat by EC if Italy does this – what next, I wonder? Germans invade the Tyrol? Or perhaps the EC might recognise that the world has changed. If Labor can endorse nuclear subs in Australia then perhaps there’s a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.
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September 27, 2022 8:14am
G152

Police caught using number plate ids to chase the non criminal who legally went North on her business during the Great Fraud.
Cops
Cant stop ram raids but dont you dare go about your lawful business
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September 27, 2022 8:17am
- kevn
  
  @G152… Really instills confidence and credibility doesn’t it. Clearly political pressure at play.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:24am
- I remember when
  
  Sorry Mrs Brown we can’t attend to your burglary and being threatened at the moment, we are heavily involved in security camera surveillance.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:39am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    No worries Mrs Brown, we’ve already been advised and checked it out. It’s just a dead sheep in a car……..nothing unusual, happens all the time.
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:57pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.teaomaori.news/racist-posts-promoting-anti-maori-sentiment-on-rise-researcher

Well, what did they expect to find? We are seeing many aspects of Maori Culture being forced upon us. Personally, I have no problem with the preservation of Maori Language and Culture, and the suppression of it in days past was a mistake, however, in trying to force it into mainstream by political fiat, they are creating the very backlash they are now complaining about.
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September 27, 2022 8:24am
peterwn

So Julie-Ann Genter has criticised Heather du Plessis Allan for ‘bullying’ a teen climate activist on air. If the teen was supporting a cause not supported by Julie-Ann then presumanly Julie-Ann would think it was a great joke.
It clearly shows that leaders of groups arranging protests etc need to be on the top of their game, get their facts straight and have a sound knowledge and understanding of their issues. They also need to be able to handle questions that touch on the inherent hyprocrisy of their positions.This teen and her mates are obviously being manipulated by adults and were little more than ventriloquists’ dummies. And HDPA went straight for the jugular.
HDPA has given her a valuable life lesson, which although she does not appreciate it now she will find it valuable for the future.
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September 27, 2022 8:25am
- I remember when
  
  Heather du Plessis-Allan should be ashamed of how she bullied my daughter: The Spinoff.
  
  There you are, you can’t get anyone more impartial than a mother!
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:33am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Another great example of ÿou poor thing”” syndrome.
    Mum suffers it to the nth degree.
    
    Proper Mum response to 16year old when getting involved.
    Do you know what you are getting yourself into?
    Some people will say nasty things to you. So be prepared.
    
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    September 27, 2022 3:45pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  That’s Julie Ann Genter who, along with her Green Party, are the most vociferous in pushing the bullying, thuggish, undemocratic, draconian covid policies that saw people lose their jobs, lose their friends and families, lose their minds in some cases? That Julie Ann Genter?
  I’d have to suggest she takes a long walk off a short pier. I have zero intertest in what she, or any of the morons in the Green Party have to say.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:45am
  - birdhaven
    
    You mean Julie Ann Genter from the far left green party.
    
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    September 27, 2022 7:07pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  The lass put herself out there. The Greens are happy for children with half formed, or even childish views of their propaganda to be front and centre. It’s HDPA’s job to deep dive into her arguments. If Genter doesn’t like it, go on the program yourself and try and field the questions. Bet a dollar to a knob of goat shit Genter would have been laid bare as a hypocrite as well. And as for the girls mother, this is exactly what I posted about parents being uber protective the other day. Mum obviously felt that it was OK for her to go on the show, but then also felt she had to leap in and protect her when things didn’t go as planned. Mum has siphoned her views onto her kid. It’s Mum who should be ashamed of herself, not Allan.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:48am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The same Mum who booked & paid for the Fiji holiday in question.
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:27pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Let’s say a teen phoned up talk back radio opposing the climate strike and saying kids should be in school learning. Julie Ann Genter would be fine with the kid being ridiculed.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:00am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  If Genter didn’t like the kid being ridiculed she should front up and be ridiculed herself.
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:04am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  It wasn’t bullying, but the shallow thinking was being explored, before the utter hypocrisy was offered up by the activist.
  A great example of why the voting age should not be lowered.
  All HDPA could do was laugh, because it was comedy which wrote itself!
  
  ..“So we would have to apply to have, like, approved events to be able to fly for,” du Plessis-Allan prompted.
  
  “Well, that’s one thing that you could look at doing,” Cook replied.
  Am I allowed to go to Fiji? Is that necessary?” du Plessis-Allan asked.
  
  “In the current climate crisis, I don’t think that that’s necessary travel,” Cook said, but du Plessis-Allan immediately pushed back.
  
  “When was the last time you were on a plane?” she asked.
  
  Cook paused briefly before answering, “Um … I’m not sure. A few months ago, to be honest.”
  
  “Where’d you go?” du Plessis-Allan asked.
  
  After another long pause, Cook answered: “Fiji.”
  
  “Izzy!” du Plessis-Allan burst out laughing then, chastising the teen activist. “Izzy! Don’t you care about the climate, Izzy?”
  
  “Of course I care about the climate,” Cook insisted — to which du Plessis-Allan replied, “Not enough.”
  
  “You went to Fiji!” the host said again, still laughing. “Izzy, come on, mate! Are you serious?”
  
  After another lengthy pause, Cook conceded, “It’s pretty ironic. It is pretty ironic, but to be honest, it’s not really a trip that I wanted to go on, but I can’t really get out of it.”
  
  Cook then clarified that her parents had planned the trip and told her that she had no choice {!} but to go along.
  
  https://www.dailywire.com/news/it-is-pretty-ironic-radio-interview-with-teen-climate-activist-goes-sideways-in-3-2-1
  
  So good.
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:45am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Folk like this woman are IMO either mentally ill or suffering from the kind of delusions that cult members get.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/129925160/midwife-makes-nofly-vow-after-seeing-climate-crisis-overseas
    
    The consensus forecasts are that global air passenger numbers will more than double between now and 2040. Most of that growth will be in Asia. (The pandemic effects on passenger growth trajectory will be over by 2024.)
    
    https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/pr/2018-10-24-02/
    
    All three major airports in New Zealand have expansion plans to accommodate that growth.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/466974/councillors-bid-to-take-stance-against-wellington-airport-expansion-fails-to-take-off#:~:text=Wellington%20Airport%20is%20expecting%20passenger,it%20can%20take%20more%20planes.
    
    https://www.christchurchairport.co.nz/about-us/who-we-are/master-plan/
    
    https://corporate.aucklandairport.co.nz/-/media/Files/Corporate/Airport-of-the-future-masterplan.ashx?la=en&hash=F43FA86F2E9F1C6EE7E707495DFF5159EF56DA79
    
    This person can live her miserable existence but the world will just move on around her.
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:45pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I just do not believe it. A teenage girl who does not want a Fiji holiday.
    
    If her parents vacation in Fiji there is a high probability they have other high carbon footprint habits.
    
    Heather should have asked her how she travels to school each morning.
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:53pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      BY: But young Izzy admitted to HDPA that she in fact enjoyed it.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:41pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    I’m guessing here, but I wonder if this is the same sock puppet who last week was telling the media that one of the students’ demands was more free public transport.
    
    Funny that, when you consider in the Auckland region, passenger numbers are 0.57 passengers per bus in-service km (this number is from the 2021-22 Auckland Bus contract league table).
    
    Which means:
    1. Auckland buses are burning up a lot of carbon carrying fresh air;
    2. The students don’t know what they are talking about (another reason not to give 16 year olds the vote); and
    3. When people say they want more PT, what they real mean is that they want other people to use PT, and they’ll stay doing just as they are.
    
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    September 27, 2022 5:42pm
  - Dave
    
    “… had no choice {!} but to go along.”
    
    I have some sympathy for the girl; she’s at an awkward age – too old to be a child, but too young to be a truly independent adult.
    
    In defence of Sam Uffindell just recently, some here pointed out that young people do dumb things which they grow out of; there are worse things than hypocrisy, and cognitive dissonance, which du Plessis-Allan rightly pointed out.
    
    I reserve my principal scorn for the mother, who supports her daughter’s climate concerns, but still went to Fiji, and Genter, who supports lowering the voting age but resists treating the girl as an adult.
    
    Still, if the daughter wants to swim at the adult end of the pool, she will be treated as an adult.
    
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    September 27, 2022 6:38pm
  - Local Miller
    
    I suspect HDPA knew Izzy had flown to Fiji recently, hence her question. You know the adage: Never ask a question you don’t already know the answer to!
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:14pm
- Nickc2
  
  Genter, on ya fuckin bike!
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:52am
  - cmm
    
    Only if there’s a photo op!
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:40pm
- Waipuk
  
  It just shows the girl was a sock puppet.
  
  There are adults behind these protests push these kids forward as the faces of the protest. Pull of idealism but no knowledge beyond the bullet points.
  
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  September 27, 2022 2:01pm
Yvette

Winston on “3 Waters”
In a recent speech in Tauranga, Winston Peters, on “3 Waters” said –

Labour’s Three Waters policy is an intricate deceit.
They have taken people’s concerns for healthy water supply and use, which has exercised local body politicians for decades in this country, and used it by stealth and spin to simply steal the public’s assets.
…
Using the need for something to be fixed to fleece the owners – you.
The four new Three Waters agencies are now to be controlled by Maori.
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And remember if you are a Maori not of local heritage, then you will have no more say in who the six Maori members are than your non-Maori neighbours.
…
But you’ll all be paying the costs. In Government, NZ First stopped Labour’s racist, undemocratic, unmandated policies. Now in government by themselves, without your agreement, they propose to legislate them as though you are powerless and impotent.
And for those that disagree with this thesis, we have one question – if what you are doing is good, why would you not wish to tell your coalition partner, or country before the last election?
…
Labour cannot answer that question without lying to you and many in their Caucus know it.
https://thebfd.co.nz/2022/09/26/peters-speaks-on-co-governance-and-separatism/

But while Winston says “Labour’s Three Waters policy is an intricate deceit”, he doesn’t really nail how “intricate”, he seems just stuck where many others are, in indignation at the “indigenous” control of the Four Entities – while Nania Mahuta’s sister, Ms Pita Mahuta (already appointed) chairs the Maori Advisory Council (already established) which controls Taumata Arowai (the new Water Regulator, fully operational from mid-November, last year) which will control the Four Entities and their iwi input – with some legislation passing through Parliament currently, without the nation-wide non-Maori “conversation” Jacinda Ardern promised on “co-governance”.

This is the “racist, undemocratic, unmandated” policy Winston calls a “Velvet Glove, a modern Trojan Horse”, but is it a show pony distraction to Mahuta’s real top level “tyranny” (Willie’s word) of power.

Winston only emphasises what we already know – the plan of “co-governance” at the “3 Waters” Four Entities level – old news.
But not what is Checkmate with Pita Mahuta and the Maori Advisory Council at the already established top or sharp end of “3 Waters“.

If not, what the hell does the Maori Advisory Council do?

Winston condemned UN Security Council Resolution 2334 for being made “Outside of Cabinet” but never really revealed that New Zealand’s Resolution was the Islamic nation Egypt’s rejected Resolution, with 13 clause numbers added by McCully’s team – we got part of the story, but not the whole story.

Now, with “3 Waters”, New Zealanders could do with the whole story.

And for those who would quote Napoleon Bonaparte, “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”, when does that become “If it was so bloody important, why did you not mention it at the time?”
If National starts now, it should last well into next year, and the Election.
“Co-governance” is big enough to split the country apart.
Unless Jacinda throws it out of the cot, and she may need Christmas and New Year and the Wedding, to think about that.
National should be helping her – relentlessly.
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September 27, 2022 8:27am
- leoj
  
  Ah, yes, Winston…..
  The guy that landed us with this bastard of a government.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:32am
- Tony Stuart
  
  If anyone would know all about “intricate deceit”, it’s Winston Peters. We must never forget how he shat all over the largest voting bloc after the 2017 General Election because the other lot made him an offer of more baubles.
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:35pm
Fisiani2

Robyn Malcolm will claim tonight on TV that there is no cure for anxiety – yet the solution has finally been found. Just read or even better listen to How to Cure Anxiety in Just Five Therapy Sessions.
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September 27, 2022 8:34am
- R
  
  Resilience is also important in overcoming or ameliorating the effects of anxiety. It should be taught in all schools.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWH8N-BvhAw
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:20am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Hmm, I reckon the easiest cure for anxiety is to stop being be anxious? And virtually everyone gets anxious about something at some point in their life. School exams, opening the batting against Richard Hadlee, first few times speaking in front of a large audience, skiing that near vertical chute, crossing that ice covered rock face, landing a plane on a road after being stuck in a wind shear, being caught in a rip that takes you a km off shore. It’s how you face your anxiousness that counts.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:55am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      As one who has battled anxiety and depression for many years IVV, I wish it was that easy. I will be watching the Robyn Malcom programme tonight, and will be particularly interested to hear what Todd Muller has to say about the anxiety/panic attacks he experienced after becoming National Party leader in mid-2020.
      
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      September 27, 2022 1:38pm
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        I’ve been around for a long while now Tony, and have a question. Do you think that more people suffer anxiety issues today than say, 40 years ago? Or do you think that people just boxed on 40 years ago? With regard to depression, I have a fair understanding, I have two friends who have suffer terribly. The wife of one of my mates suffered, and took her own life.
        
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        September 27, 2022 2:57pm
- I remember when
  
  Without wanting to trivialise the effects of anxiety –
  is Robyn Malcolm’s anxiety caused by her lack of media cover.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:27am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Lack of media coverage is going to happen to someone else soon. She won’t know what the hell hit her.
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:59am
  - Nickc2
    
    ….. and lack of talent!
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:19pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  I would have thought getting Ardern out of power would have gone a long way to help get rid of depression and anxiety…….
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Mentally strong people never have anxiety attacks. Just get your brain under control instead of letting others control it.
  Any rubbish or shit just gets thrown out.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mentally strong people will not be watching that shit on TV tonight.
    Others with two braincells will be going “yes, that’s what’s wrong with me”
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:02am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      It’s what socialist government’s need. Dependent victims so they can “help” them.
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:30am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Keep them dependent and promise free shit. You know the rest
        
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        September 27, 2022 12:20pm
Cassandra

Grazie Italia! There’s a good article in this morning’s Telegraph (paywalled, but a subscription is cheap) to the effect that there are now 3 countries (Poland, Hungary, Italy) with similar views – von der Leyden is out of step. Long way to go but at least this is a start.
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September 27, 2022 8:40am
Alex

Russians are having trouble with mobilization in Dagestan an independent Republic of Russia.near Caspian Sea and next to Chechnya that it has insurrectionist ties with.
Two female suicide bombers from Dagestan killed 39 in the Moscow Metro bombing. Very ethnic population including many Muslims.
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September 27, 2022 8:44am
Maggie Pie

Are they waiting to see if Efeso is elected Mayor?

Calls for AT to recruit ‘Transport Police’ for the city’s Trains and Buses, have been put on hold until after the election.

https://at.govt.nz/about-us/campaigns/transport-officers/

Scoop reports vandalism and assaults by youth gangs on trains is out of control and taking place in front of passengers and rail staff.
AT, and it’s contractor ‘One Rail’ is paid $130m a year by Ratepayers, but are pretending not to notice.
Passengers say it’s a major turn-off and is making them feel unsafe to use public transport.

LOL!!
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September 27, 2022 8:49am
- peterwn
  
  Surely the ordinary Police should be providing this service. UK has a separate ‘Transport Police’ which has full policing powers but this has to be seen in the context that UK has a multiplicity of geographically based police forces who cannot attend properly to trains, stations, etc. Also UK population is vastly greater than NZ. It seems Auckland Transport is merely proposing to hire security guards and branding them as ‘Transport Police’ but this branding could be unlawful (unless the Police Commissioner was prepared to swear them in as special constables). As public transport is subsidised perhaps part of this subsidy money should go to the Police to provide policing and safety services on the commuter trains similar to the special allocation the Police receive for road safety policing.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:05am
- MCōs
  
  No mention of assaults in the article, but there’s plenty of other articles that do; going back years.
  Such is life in the big city.
  https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK2209/S00509/graffiti-on-auckland-trains-turn-off-for-passengers.htm
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:22am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Sometimes Cossie, you have to ‘read between the lines’.
    
    You and wifey would have already voted for Efeso wouldn’t ya?
    
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    September 27, 2022 9:30am
  - leoj
    
    Apathy. The Rest Home for the left.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:35am
R

The Pfizer CEO, Albert Bourla, has just tested positive for Covid for a second time. He’s heavily vaccinated and no doubt double masked. Isn’t it great that we have an effective vaccine and masks that work. 🙂

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-ceo-tests-positive-covid-2022-09-24/
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September 27, 2022 9:08am
- kevn
  
  @R… I would have picked him as a saline jabbed type.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:26am
- ClanMcleod
  
  If he’s read the safety data I doubt he’s actually had the real thing. With that information at hand it would take a special kind of stupid to get it.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:50am
  - Charmaine Hawke
    
    Well worth the read and I think he is right. I suspect those at the top don’t really know and those further down the food chain don’t want to tell them what they push doesn’t work.
    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/debate-did-our-health-authorities
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:23am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Cheers Charmaine – That’s a good read, as he says at the end, it doesn’t really matter. “They are evildoers anyway.”
      
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      September 27, 2022 10:37am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  O dear, how sad, never mind
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:31pm
Ghost

Bloody hell

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/300697093/timaru-council-drops-34m-on-consultants-in-five-years

The Timaru District Council has forked out almost $34 million to pay consultants over the past five years.

According to figures released to The Timaru Herald by the council under the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act 1987, it spent a whopping $33,994,388 on consultants between 2018 and 2022.
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September 27, 2022 9:13am
- MCōs
  
  They can’t hire engineers due to cost restraints so they have to hire consultants who are even more expensive.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:40am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  What were they consulting on? In theory at least, where specialist skills are required that are not available locally or not suited to FT roles, bringing in consultants makes good sense (assuming the project stacks up in the first place). If not, not. Not enough detail to form a view.
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:34pm
Ghost

No, you really haven’t, everything you’ve touched has gone to shit and got worse under labour, and you can’t blame Covid because it was getting worse before Covid.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/labour-has-absolutely-made-life-better-for-new-zealanders-grant-robertson-says.html

Labour has ‘absolutely’ made life better for New Zealanders, Grant Robertson says
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September 27, 2022 9:20am
- I remember when
  
  Perhaps Grant means when they shelved the Traffic lights system.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:23am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Covid didn’t do anything. Ardern and her government are fully responsible for the putrefying state of this country today.
  Covid responses simply highlighted their total incompetence in every aspect of governance.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:53am
  - Flossie
    
    I was until six years ago living in Australia. The pull of “home” was strong (not to mention the impossibility of my becoming an Australian citizen) so back across the ditch. We’d heard a lot about the rock star economy, and the worst things they could mention on Oz news was a flag referendum (at least we got to chose! Who voted for “Aotearoa”?) or perhaps the then PM pulling on a waitress’s ponytail.
    I do wonder now if we made the right decision. I am having second thoughts about mall shopping etc. Crime seems out of control and as often mentioned there are no perceptible consequences for those that do get caught.
    Won’t somebody please step up and take charge again!
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:09am
  - ISeeRed
    
    THIS. So utterly sick of hearing Covid blamed for everything. Covid wasn’t a neuro pathogen that infected the brains of business owners and made them unable to run their businesses. The government closed businesses by force and millions lost their jobs. Covid wasn’t a crop blight or livestock disease that decimated wheat, grain, cattle herds etc. and caused agricultural, meat and dairy prices to skyrocket. Government lockdowns disrupting global supply chains did that. Apart from a higher death toll than a bad flu season, all the economic chaos, healthcare failures, mental suffering and social upheaval has been caused (some would say “engineered”) by governments.
    
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    September 27, 2022 4:38pm
I remember when

Call time on new mines: Nicola Toki, CE, Forest & Bird.
“Mining on conservation land continues to be approved, despite a promise made by the Government five years ago.”
Yes, promises made on becoming the Government are often found to be wanting after five years.
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September 27, 2022 9:20am
- ClanMcleod
  
  That’s the same Toki who supported the aerial poisoning of an offshore island that was known to be inhabited by 400 or more native weka. An endangered species that was put ON the island by the previous incarnation of DOC. They took 60 off the island and happily poisoned the rest, because they decided they wanted a different type of bird there and the weka were a threat to them.
  
  These people are ideological lunatics.
  
  Welcome to politics Nicola. Broken promises are the only constant.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:03am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Almost everything comes from mining. I bet she drives an EV. Happy for kids to mine cobalt in the Congo. But no we can’t have mining here.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:42am
oldfella

A young Maori reporter did a story on last night’s TV3 news, repeated this morning on the AM show, about the supposed increase in racism towards Maori.
She ended her story by stating…

… unfortunately in New Zealand, calling our country by its original name, Aotearoa, is enough to start a fight.

Original name? Aotearoa? Even the experts disagree.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/125881906/mori-history-or-a-fake-tradition-the-battle-over-aotearoa
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September 27, 2022 9:21am
- Yabster
  
  yep- -more bullshit, ask Ngai Tahu what they called it- certainly wasn’t Aotearoa
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:47am
- Taieri
  
  calling our country by its original name, Aotearoa
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  Our country? Was there a country back then?
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:48am
- Cinematic
  
  [We don’t need a descent into your casual racism thanks. mod.]
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:54am
- Paulus
  
  Thought the name was a very modern constrict and as Maori had no written language or little any other words to put together the comment is crap – again.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:40am
- Nickc2
  
  She’s probably an honours graduate in Maori BS Studies.
  There’s no mention of such a mythical place in the ToW.
  The term originally referred to the North Island only. The first recorded mention of Aotearoa as a name for New Zealand as a whole was in 1898, William Pember Reeves, The Long White Cloud Ao-tea-roa.
  Courtesy Google
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:35pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The first written account is Sir George Grey 1855 in “Polynesian Myths”… but perhaps just referring to the northern part of the North Island.
    
    DNZEnglish p.13.
    
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    September 27, 2022 5:48pm
Maggie Pie

Yuge congrats to Kim & Liz!

ANOTHER Dot on they way 😛

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1574267913317806080
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September 27, 2022 9:24am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Money can buy literally anything Maggie…..
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

How much further can the $NZD fall?
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September 27, 2022 9:27am
- MCōs
  
  I remember when it was US45c
  
  According to the ANZ Currency app $NZ1 = 53p
  Not long ago it was under 50.
  When we went to the UK before the BREXIT vote it was 40p
  
  I hear there are already call to replace Truss!
  The ultimate shifting deck chairs on the Titanic
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:00am
  - Sideoiler
    
    It sank to 39 c US under Helen
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:48am
  - cmm
    
    NZD only looks stable against the GBP because that is plummeting too!
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:45pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Locking in high import driven inflation as well. Labours vast borrowing chickens and appalling balance of trade figures coming home to roost.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:31pm
- Paulus
  
  Great for the exporters but lousy for new car importers, especially the Mercs and Beemers for Ngaruwahia.
  Gonna cost us more !
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:26pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Its falling against the AUD as well.
  
  So not just falling because of USD getting stronger.
  USD Index is way up
  https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/DJ-USDOLLAR/
  
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  September 27, 2022 7:15pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Is your life better?

Please thank Grant Robertson & Co….

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/labour-has-absolutely-made-life-better-for-new-zealanders-grant-robertson-says.html
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September 27, 2022 9:29am
- Harry Knuts
  
  NZ business leaders give him a damning report card and he responds with this. Perhaps he’s referring to the increase in social welfare with handouts since Labour has come in? Labour loves more dependents on welfare – makes them feel useful.
  
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  September 27, 2022 9:39am
- Gravelroad
  
  Mr Robertson seems to live in a completely different world.
  Is he really just thick?
  Or is it that he is committed to spin every negative into a positive and thinks we are all too compliant to notice?
  I have never seen a more shifty Minister of Finance.
  His agenda is the pursuit of power – which trumps economic performance and reliable policy.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:02am
  - Paulus
    
    Just Thick !
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:41am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    My money is on thick.
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:12am
  - jv
    
    Just thick
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:55pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Hmmm. Poor old Grant. He really has no idea about anything. Labour could have put a decent sized cow-pat on his seat and it would have been an equally good (perhaps better) finance minister. Newshub should have asked him what colour the sky is on his planet. Not only are things going pear shaped now, the next generation or two are going to have to pay for it.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:03am
- MCōs
  
  Is my life better?
  Pretty much the same, thank you.
  Everyone’s well, grandkids are growing up.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:07am
  - kevn
    
    @Mcos… and what about your own kids? All happy and joy? The grandies will be oblivious to the robber and his pretensions at being a ‘finance minister’.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Unless you are an aspiring first home buyer.
  
  Or a school student in a failing education system.
  
  Or a farmer.
  
  Or you are sick and do not have private health insurance.
  
  Or …….
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:34am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Next minute 🙁
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/129996246/kiwi-dollar-falling-on-capital-drain-back-to-the-us-says-adrian-orr
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:55pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    The NZD has been losing against the USD for over a year Ben. And it has been entirely predictable give inflation and interest rates. Orr is a decent part of the problem.
    
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    September 27, 2022 3:05pm
    - Matt Long
      
      Inflation and higher interest are normally a signal to buy a currency, absolutely crap government and looming recession a reason to sell as competent people and capital flees.
      
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      September 27, 2022 7:01pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      actually 2 years
      
      https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=10Y
      
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      September 27, 2022 7:18pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  “Crime has spiked in New Zealand this year, with 254 ram-raids in the first six months of 2022 – a 518 percent increase from the same months in 2018. ”
  518%age increase, and all Grant can say is: “We’ve added 1,500 more police”
  
  Well it hasn’t bloody well worked adding those police has it Grant!
  
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  September 27, 2022 2:10pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    ““We’ve added 1,500 more police””
    
    It is the same when they say “We have spent more money”. They have no comprehension of outcomes.
    
    Imagine a CE fronting up to a shareholders meeting for a company that has been losing market share. And the CE says “But we have spent more money”.
    
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    September 27, 2022 3:14pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    hasn’t bloody well worked adding those police
    
    Come on. Be a devil. Tell us your solution ….
    
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    September 28, 2022 9:15am
Harry Knuts

Anyone else notice Cuddles has been very quiet lately? not a peep. Escalating robberies, daylight and early hours of the morning. Crimes of this level must be at an all-time high yet Cuddles Coster has disappeared?
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September 27, 2022 9:36am
Maggie Pie

Overheard my partner saying there’s some big sh*t going down in Cuba 🙁
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September 27, 2022 9:37am
- Harry Knuts
  
  run out of cigars?
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:13am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie…. ‘Big shit going down’: Justin calling by to visit his rellies?
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:27am
Bloody Dago

Yes and watch this newly minted Stasi slide in between you and me and this ever expanding communist dictatorship.
https://www.tepunahamatatini.ac.nz/our-team/principal-investigators/
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September 27, 2022 9:48am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Looking at their website, I have no idea about what services they offer.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:35am
  - kevn
    
    @BY… Never mind, looks like it pays well.
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:27am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Hard to believe anyone willingly pays for their services.
      
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      September 27, 2022 7:58pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    I tried as well, but urgh. It is ponderous crap.
    
    Filled with the new language of the droning priesthood – Te Reo – to the point that I couldn’t fathom their purpose from a look at their Home page. You would have to invest some real time to work it out, which sort of defeats the purpose of those pages I would have thought.
    It would almost be funny, if it wasn’t so damned stupid. Almost like they want to exclude people from easy understanding, in favour of projecting cultural competency or ideological allegiance?
    The proverbial Emperor’s New Clothes.
    
    i.e this gem amongst the scant details on their Home Page:
    “Te Kahuratai Painting (Ngāti Manu, Te Popoto, Ngāpuhi) is exploring how maramataka can guide Ngāti Manu kaitiakitanga of awa and moana.”
    
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    September 27, 2022 12:37pm
Warren

Is this a Government that is handcuffed to Union and Maori Policy because you can see the division in Co Governance and Three Waters Policy but now the Council of Tarde Union wants in with there new plan to spend more of Taxpayers money.
Another Union Boss Craig Renney sets out a plan to spend Taxpayers money with creating a State Run Investment Bank, establish a “Ministry of Green works,” and tril a four day week at scale, these are just some of the ideas the Trade Union of Council (CTU) is floating with the public as Election Year approaches.
The strategy was co- authored by the CTU’s Craig Renney ( a economic advisor to Finance Minister Grant Robertson in the last term of Government) and Diana Russell.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/unions-float-sweeping-policy-wish-list-ahead-of-election-year/SBV65MFY7JDCVHEL3TMADIVZ44/
The CTU plans to refine it’s ideas and detail them in a report it will publish early next year.
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September 27, 2022 10:08am
herb1

According to Kelvin Davis in yesterday’s Herald.
He admits that misunderstanding the treaty is a thing.
Although he probably misunderstands his misunderstanding.
Also he says the only way to assuage Maori anger isn’t equality it’s equity. Seems he’s saying Maori can’t compete on an equal footing.
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September 27, 2022 10:09am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The soft bigotry of low expectations as exemplified by Maori leaderships expressed desire for special treatment of their constituents. They clearly don’t think much of them.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:29pm
Rusty

Just a coincidence from the herald this morning running a story on the republican debate a day after the Queens memorial?

John Key made some good points on retaining the monarchy which I agree with. Electing or appointing a president would be a massive debate in itself.

Republican debates should be public opinion driven not by media and special interest groups and clearly the majority of Nzers aren’t interested in it.
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September 27, 2022 10:17am
- Benedict Yu
  
  TBH it would not be a bad thing for there to be a referendum sooner rather than later. Because it will be defeated and end the issue for decades. Charles will be monarch for 20 years, maybe much less. When William becomes King, the monarchy will surge in popularity.
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:37am
  - Joely Doe
    
    Charles should abdicate in favour of William in about 10 years. He was raised to be King, no other job prospects.
    If he were to step down for William – it would increase interest in the Monarchy and create a resurgence of popularity in all things Royal.
    
    King William and Queen Catherine (the gorgeous), 50 yrs old and in the Castle, with their triple teenaged terrors running amok.
    
    I hate reality shows but I would tune in for that one!
    Can you imagine the voiceovers?
    
    Prince George has just come home to Windsor with a “D” in Biology – how is he is going to tell Daddy?
    
    Princess Charlotte has a new boyfriend – Kate does not approve!
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:04am
    - Nickc2
      
      … and Prince George has just returned from America with a girl of colour that he intends to marry.
      
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      September 27, 2022 12:45pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Abdication is an interesting possibility. Then Charles might become an Orthodox monk. No kidding, he has be rumored to have visited Mt. Athos on several occasions. Not sure what Camillia will do then.
      
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      September 27, 2022 6:32pm
Paulus

Now that the Washington Ambassador’s role has been filled by a Professional, leaving London HC vacant what is Goff expecting now ?
Thought he asume a shoe in.
Has he shot his bolt with Cindy ?
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September 27, 2022 10:34am
- Benedict Yu
  
  He is 69. Can’t he go and live in a tiny apartment on the route of the tram to the airport and retire in a vegan lifestyle? You know, set an example?
  
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  September 27, 2022 10:39am
  - Paulus
    
    He has an expensive Lifestyle block just south of Auckland at Clevedene I believe.
    
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    September 27, 2022 10:43am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Why am I not surprised?
      
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      September 27, 2022 3:17pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  I thought Goff was getting London as his retirement gift. That’s why we only had an acting High Commissioner Shannon Austin representing New Zealand at events around the Queen’s funeral, and the succession to King Charles. Sir Phillip Goff will be heading up there before to long, once he’s done the handover to Wayne Brown.
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:43pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Perhaps Goff could be appointed co-Ambassador to Ireland, in a job-share with Mallard.
    
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    September 27, 2022 8:01pm
ClanMcleod

Leading doctors in the UK are calling for the halting of covid vaccinations on the young, the vast majority of whom are at far greater risk from the jab than from covid.
A doctor who formerly promoted the jabs on UK television has changed position due to the volume of real world data now available.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/09/25/suspend-all-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-until-side-effects-are-fully-investigated-says-leading-doctor-who-promoted-them-on-tv/

UK Doctors present a petition to the new PM to bring the vaccinations to a halt. NZ and the young chap who was killed by the jab get a mention.

https://rumble.com/v1lmpht-uk-doctors-take-petition-to-downing-street-asking-to-pause-cv-19-vaccinatio.html

The rest of the world are realising this madness has to end. When are we going to stop in NZ? When will they admit they were wrong?
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September 27, 2022 10:50am
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Labour has ‘absolutely’ made life better for New Zealanders, Grant Robertson says – Newshub. There you go sheeple. Your life is better. Stop complaining.
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September 27, 2022 10:51am
Yvette

Andrew Little seems to have pulled the promotion, to recruit nurses, from SHORTLAND STREET.
So the plot line was more realistic again yesterday evening when the phrase was used twice to the effect that the health service has no money, no staff and no hope

Meanwhile – Madonna sold out, Jack makes a mistake – again, Raj finds yet another CEO screwing in his boffice, and Chris just doesn’t give a fuck any more
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September 27, 2022 10:57am
- Ghost
  
  It was interesting how it has gone back to attacking the government and the new health regime
  
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  December 27, 2021 11:00am
Maggie Pie

The only time we see this many police cars in one spot, is when Baker’s Delight opens.

https://twitter.com/ElliotIkilei/status/1574257240952872961
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September 27, 2022 11:05am
- Harry Knuts
  
  If you heard Efeso this morning debating on AM show he said yoof are getting drunk in dive bars in otahuhu then doing ram raids and stealing cars. Wonder what bar Efeso thought these yoof drank in before they stole this car in broad daylight??
  
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  September 27, 2022 11:19am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And did you see the dirty collar on his shirt?
    
    You’d think his missus would have washed it before he appeared on telly 🙁
    
    Just saying.
    
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    September 27, 2022 11:26am
    - Harry Knuts
      
      missed that part… too busy watching him getting all flappy about shitty dive bars in his own hood. 🙂
      
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      September 27, 2022 12:47pm
Jack5

Economic storm? What storm?

In case you notice jumping grocery prices and now wonder what the diving kiwi dollar means for us ….

The Reserve Bank governor Orr quoted on world inflation rates at the interest-dot-co web site: “In a ‘relative’ sense New Zealand is in an excellent position.”

Not sure what the Interest web site reporter means by putting relative in single quotes. Did Orr really say relative, or is the reporter signalling that Orr used a different tone when he said the word?
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September 27, 2022 11:41am
- Jack5
  
  Orr is also reported in the Interest web site story as saying the real challenge ahead for NZ is productivity.
  
  Orr said the country needs to look at achieving better output per person.
  
  About four weeks ago (August 26), DPF posted that Nicola Willis had found out this about Reserve Bank staff:
  
  Staff numbers up 78% over four years from 255 to 454.
  
  Economic staff numbers down 2% from 34 in 2013 to 32.
  
  Comms staff up 233% from 6 in 2013 to 20.
  
  HR staff up 380% from 5 in 2017 to 24.
  
  Governor’s Office staff up 250% from 6 in 2017 to 21.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:06pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  in pak-in-save in the weekend. $8 for cauliflower, $6 for broccoli. Carrots is the only reasonably price veg at the moment – clear winner at $2 a kilo.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:49pm
  - Paulus
    
    You do not have to buy !~
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:30pm
  - Inandout
    
    HK, skip the cafe coffees and you have paid for the veges.
    
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    September 27, 2022 1:39pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Stop buying vegetables at supermarkets. (And any meat, seafood, herbs and spices, pasta, cheese, indeed all dairy products, oils.) I got to Pak n save for toilet paper. Occasionally wine if they have a special on something I like.
    
    I bought three leeks for $2 this morning.
    
    Avocadoes are also cheap.
    
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    September 27, 2022 3:23pm
    - Taieri
      
      Stop buying vegetables at supermarkets. (And any meat, seafood, herbs and spices, pasta, cheese, indeed all dairy products, oils.)
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      Not many other options down south. Veggieboys used to be good for vegies, but not anymore. Butchers are as common as hen’s teeth and not cheaper than supermarkets.
      
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      September 27, 2022 7:04pm
- I remember when
  
  In a ‘relative sense’ – does he mean like if the economy was our great, great, great, great uncle.
  
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  September 27, 2022 2:24pm
wilderbeast

Just finished reading a company annual report that talks about “NZ becoming used to the presence of covid-19”. Such a statement would have been unconscionable in the middle of Jacinda’s “zero covid” strategy – remember that, the one that cost billions and billions and was going to set us apart from the world? What happened to that?
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September 27, 2022 11:47am
- krazykiwi
  
  What happened? Amateur-hour authoritarian overreach happened. Then Ardern turned tail and ran.
  
  China’s Zero Covid policy remains very much in place while others, notably New Zealand’s, have been suddenly and embarrassingly abandoned. Jacinda Ardern’s statement “We just need to respect everyone’s individual decisions” with regard to ongoing mask-wearing is laughable from someone who sacked state employees who took the individual decision not to be vaccinated.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:43pm
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He’s obviously got Grant Robertson doing the books. //
Biden plan to cancel some U.S. student loan debt will cost $400 billion
U.S. President Joe Biden’s executive actions cancelling some student loan debt will cost about $400 billion, about a quarter of funds owed, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said on Monday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-plan-cancel-some-us-student-loan-debt-will-cost-400-bln-cbo-2022-09-26/
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September 27, 2022 11:49am
- krazykiwi
  
  The most expensive, flagrant voter bribe in global history. It is democracy in its death throes.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:17pm
- Inandout
  
  old, it is clear as crystal that Trump at his worst was miles ahead of Biden who in a couple of years has destroyed the US economy.
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:36pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The left are terrified, and it’s about time. This Worldwide move to socialism must be brought to an end.
https://rumble.com/v1ll6c5-italys-new-prime-minister-has-the-left-terrified.html?
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September 27, 2022 11:58am
- Don Beckett
  
  Just like Trump had – and has -the American Left terrified.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:53pm
JimBobJoe

A Cardic Specialist from the UK having second thoughts about the vaccines for the non elderly…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtE0I5FqHPs
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September 27, 2022 12:03pm
- krazykiwi
  
  He is also one of the first doctors to appear on UK TV promoting the jabs in the first days of the roll-out. This video is proof that some people have the integrity to assimilate new evidence, to recognise they got it wrong, and to change their stance. More power to him.
  
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  September 27, 2022 12:14pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Correct KK. He took the double jab and encourage others to do some … now the evidence is mounting he is starting to rethink things. Acting like a scientist and adjusting his stance based on evidence.
    
    Refreshing isn’t it.
    
    For me personally though I want to know why so many in the medical fraternity just blinded accepted the vaccines with so little in terms of trial data to go on.
    
    Limited trial data and no longer term data (3 plus year trial data) coupled with a view the virus wasn’t that serious for the healthy under 65s was where my resistance to taking the jab came from.
    
    I suspect there will be a crisis of conscience in the medical fraternity sometime in the next couple of years IF they are prepared to look at the actual data from the colossal trial that has occurred in the Western world with these vaccines…
    
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    September 27, 2022 4:53pm
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      @JimBob… Told my masked up GP I had dodged a bullet. He did nod knowingly but no words uttered.
      
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      September 27, 2022 5:31pm
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      JBJ, any questioning of any vaccine by any person has long been an invitation for ridicule and abuse. Big Pharma have painstakingly crafted the universal Safe And Effective™ narrative, and this has proven to be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. I’ll confess to having been suckered but the naked lust for wealth on account of the Covid-19 of injectables bought me to my senses.
      
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      September 27, 2022 7:16pm
Takere

A reminder how Maggie’s and Regan’s ‘trickle-down’ economics was a failure.

Dizzy Lizzie crashing the pound and is George Soros waiting till Wednesday to crash the party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plODO1LOzrM&ab_channel=BBC
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September 27, 2022 12:32pm
- krazykiwi
  
  GBP is off 5.6% against USD this week, and the NZD is off 4.3% over the same period. Big moves for sure.
  
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  September 27, 2022 1:59pm
Jack5

The English rugby team has looked to the US Navy’s crack special operations unit, the SEALs, for ideas on preparing for the World Cup.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports that Eddie Jones, the England coach, recently spent “a fascinating couple of days” with the SEALs in San Diego to glean a better understanding of helping players “to cope with the unexpected” as cards, head injury assessments, and refereeing interpretations influence every match.

Jones used Operation Neptune Spear, which was carried out by the Navy SEALs in 2011 despite a helicopter crash-landing, as an analogy for England’s preparations.

The SMH reports England will hold a “mini hell week” in Jersey ahead of the autumn internationals against Argentina, Japan, New Zealand and South Africa.

The newspaper says Jones suggested that Ireland and France were “nose and nose” at the top of the international scene. South Africa and New Zealand sat third and fourth, with England nestled in behind them.

The acronym-name of the US Navy’s SEALs seems to come from “Sea, Air, and Land (SEAL)” teams.
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September 27, 2022 1:51pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  A friend is Reatd C/Sgt in the SBS and has done the SEAL course and also instructed them.
  
  He does not have a high opinion of them. Maybe Jones should have gone closer to home, Poole in Dorset, and looked at the SBS. Motto is ” Not by Strength, By Guile”
  
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  September 27, 2022 4:38pm
  - Jack5
    
    What are you getting the English team into, Eddy?
    
    The US Navy is investigating the brutal selection course for SEALs after the death this year of a sailor who had been an elite college athlete, reports the New York Times.
    
    It says his death led to revelations of physical abuse, poor medical oversight and use of performance-enhancing drugs in the selection course.
    
    Seaman Kyle Mullen, 24, by the end of the punishing third week of the course was reportedly exhausted, riddled with infection, and coughing blood from lungs.
    
    He slogged on, his condition ignored by those running the course and by medics.
    
    At the end of the week he died. Three others from the course were admitted to hospital.
    
    The newspaper says at least 13 sailors have died on the course since 1953.
    
    It’s alleged that candidates who suffered serious injuries and illnesses saw illicit performance-enhancing drugs as the only way to complete the course.
    
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    September 27, 2022 8:27pm
MCōs

Some madman killed at least fifteen kids at a school in central Russia.
His actions have been condemned by Putin whose actions were responsible for the deaths of far more school kids in Ukraine.
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September 27, 2022 3:00pm
- Jack5
  
  The school shooting in In Russia yesterday was in Izhevsk, the home town of Mikhail Kalashnikov, famous for developing the AK47 family of rifles.
  
  There is a Kalashnikov arms museum in the central-Russian city, which is sometimes publicised as the armoury capital of Russia.
  
  A gunman carrying pistols and with a swastika on his T-shirt killed 13, including seven children, and wounded more than 20 other people. Then he committed suicide.
  
  Mmm…. A city that’s an arms centre, and then there are the locals. Many have a feature that is sometimes, facetiously, alleged to indicate short temper.
  
  Izhevsk is the capital of Udmurtia, on the edge of the Urals, which separate European Russia from Asian Russia. This region rivals Ireland and Scotland in high proportion of red-haired people.
  
  The indigenous Udmurts are a Finnic-group people, though now a minority to ethnic Russians in Udmurtia. Tatars are another minority in the region.
  
  In some Urmurt villages the proportion of people with red hair is said to be as high as 70 per cent.
  
  Meanwhile, what about the other hot spot for gingers — the British Isles?
  
  This 2013 report from and Irish newspaper link suggests that south-east Scotland is slightly ahead of Ireland in proportion of redheads.
  
  https://www.irishpost.com/news/britain-more-redhead-people-than-ireland-12068
  
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  September 27, 2022 8:33pm
Surely Knott

US elections have a few issues it seems. Gavin Newsom’s new bill will give state ID to undocumented immigrants.

This follows ““follows a controversy in the state in 2018 in which 1,500 people were improperly registered to vote in California by the DMV, including non-citizens. Then-California Secretary of State Alex Padilla (D), who is now a U.S. Senator, said he did not know if any of those registered had voted in the state’s June 2018 primary election.”

Hmmmm. Maybe the systems not as robust as it could be.
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September 27, 2022 3:12pm
cmm

What’s this?

Clean up society by killing some Mongrel Mob scum and you get a life sentence.

But killers of more worthy people end up with a slap on the wrists.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/clifford-umuhuri-murder-life-sentence-for-michael-filoa-convicted-of-mongrel-mob-members-death/YBBZ5AHH66SBIYY5WRGUAYJM64/
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September 27, 2022 3:15pm
- cmm
  
  Justice Harvey acknowledged today that the victim’s “lifestyle choices may appear unorthodox”. But grief over his death is still being processed two years on,
  
  Seriously, drug dealer gone and people still sobbing over him 2 years later? Get another dealer. Move on!
  
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  September 27, 2022 3:45pm
Ghost

Disgusting, this person better have the book thrown at them

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129998675/wife-recounts-alleged-assault-on-good-samaritan-saying-he-bashed-and-bashed-at-him

A terrifying attack on a good samaritan aged in his late 70s has been described by his wife, who is at his hospital bedside as he recovers from his wounds.

The woman says her husband’s face is “unrecognisable” after he sustained serious injuries during an incident where they stopped to help a woman being chased after a family harm incident.
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September 27, 2022 3:29pm
- David Garrett
  
  Ghost: In the present state of our completely fucked “justice” system this POS might not even go to jail.
  
  Especially if, as I suspect, he is one of the Special People, and a “cultural report” identifies his being a POS as a result of colonization.
  
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  September 27, 2022 4:00pm
  - Ghost
    
    Well, if raping several girls by two teenage boys is home detention for both, this guy will be lucky if he gets told off.
    
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    September 27, 2022 4:04pm
  - cmm
    
    … and, to add Justice Harvy’s gem, unorthodox lifestyle choices…
    
    Just as we shouldn’t condemn people for cross dressing or listening to Abba music, we shouldn’t condemn those who have chosen the life of head stomping.
    
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    September 27, 2022 5:11pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  If this guy doesn’t do serious time then I think people have ever right to start identifying the perps and dealing out their own justice if the courts fail to provide it.
  
  A home detention or community service sentence for this attacker, if found guilty, is not enough.
  
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  September 27, 2022 4:59pm
Ghost

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/judith-collins-says-she-self-identify-as-27-year-old-slovakian-model-michael-woodhouse-calls-comment-flippant.html

Former National leader Judith Collins says she identifies as a “27-year-old Slovakian model” amid questions over Christopher Luxon’s comments on gender.
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September 27, 2022 3:33pm
Ghost

I must of missed that the nephew was also getting contracts.

https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/the-smoking-gun-in-the-mahuta-saga

The smoking gun in the Mahuta saga

A journalist’s question about a niece’s contract made the minister uncomfortable.

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The powerful Minister of Foreign Affairs and Local Government firmly denied any wrongdoing and was keen to distance herself from the four government contracts awarded to the consultancy company Ka Awatea Services, owned by her husband, Gannin Ormsby. They had been signed with Kāinga Ora, the Ministry for the Environment, Department of Conservation and the Ministry of Māori Development / Te Puni Kōkiri, from which KAS received as much as $136,000 in total.

When government contracts with Kawai Catalyst, owned by Gannin Ormsby’s nephew and his wife, Tamoko and Waimirirangi Ormsby, are included in the roundup of Mahuta family appointments, the total comes to more than $200,000.
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September 27, 2022 4:02pm
Surely Knott

Charges against prominent conservative be anti-mandate protestor dropped, Newstalkzb reports.

If you accuse someone of obstruction and trespassing and it’s reported across the media, they then send him home whom and ban them from parliament grounds. And now the charges are dropped. Is that enough. Shouldn’t the police and media apologise. Shouldn’t he be compensated for his time and stress defending charges that the police subsequently drop presumably because they don’t have evidence to support them.
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September 27, 2022 4:37pm
- cmm
  
  It was just harassment. Pure and simple.
  
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  September 27, 2022 5:05pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  If they lawyer up I’ll support them financially (as much as a retired old fart can afford).
  
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  September 27, 2022 6:26pm
Ghost

Good news

https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/130004201/jewellery-store-raids-police-make-14-arrests-in-auckland-and-waikato

Fourteen young people have been arrested in Auckland and the Waikato for suspected involvement in a spate of recent aggravated robberies – including the daylight robbery of a jewellery store in Hamilton on Sunday.
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September 27, 2022 5:05pm
- cmm
  
  Can you please wait 5 minutes? The bus tickets need a bit more soaking.
  
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  September 27, 2022 5:07pm
  - Ghost
    
    Sadly yes, the bad news is now they will get hugs and cuddles from the wrap around wellness team
    
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    September 27, 2022 5:18pm
- mandk
  
  Based on what you say, the cops already knew the identities of the young people, and knew that they were involved in previous robberies.
  
  So the question is: why haven’t they been arrested before now?
  
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  September 27, 2022 5:35pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Because colonialism, silly.
    
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    September 27, 2022 7:41pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  It will be interesting to see what actually develops from these arrests.
  
  Hopefully Labour will be getting worried and let the judges do what is needed.
  
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  September 27, 2022 6:23pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Spare me…
Anyone watching TV One news?

10 mins of John Campbell & Jessica M-M …

Is there no-one out & about catching up the real-time events?
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September 27, 2022 6:11pm
- Ghost
  
  Ah, I see what your problem is, you’re watching the news, may I suggest watching paint dry instead?
  
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  September 27, 2022 6:25pm
- graham
  
  Yes, my wife is very much a creature of habit and ALWAYS watches TV One News … but even she, when John Campbell first appeared, sighed and said she’d really hoped he was only there for a few days.
  
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  September 27, 2022 7:08pm
krazykiwi

Wow. Read this: https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/apparent-sabotage-disables-nord-stream

This is not a drive-by shooting, something that anyone could be accused of. It looks like a foreign power – USA or NATO itself.
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September 27, 2022 7:22pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Or Ukrane, or Russia. So many potential bad actors. So little time.
  
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  September 27, 2022 7:42pm

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